PBD Podcast - Tesla Migrates to Texas |PBD Podcast | EP 96
Episode Date: October 14, 2021During episode 96 of the PBD Podcast, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Adam Sosnick, Gerard Michaels, and Phil Heath to talk about topics such as Sanjay Gupta on Joe Rogan's Podcast, Tesla moving to A...ustin, Texas, and much more! Watch the full podcast: https://youtu.be/DGgT6XlqA0A --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support
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Episode number 96, four away from 100.
Back at it again, we filled Heath with Adam Saas,
Injorard, lots of new topics to cover.
Adam, right off the bat as I'm going through the topics,
Adam, tell me what's your number one topic.
Adam says, I demand we start with Kyrie Irving.
So we're going to start off with Kyrie Irving.
Now, tell me why Kyrie was your top story.
What?
I just think he's very topical right now.
You brought up something last episode where you showed up
your last tweet, I don't know if you're your last tweet,
you said the guy said, Pat, I don't just say,
I don't know what to make you at this point.
I don't get you.
You know, I agree with you and then I don't agree with you.
It's a very good point.
And it's just like, what am I supposed to do with you?
Yep.
And I feel like that's what people are dealing
with Kyrie right now.
I remember when we first started doing the podcast,
I can't believe we're almost on episode 100.
Four away.
Yeah, four away.
My math was almost off, but it's four away.
It's so funny.
But I remember people, especially on the right,
were very angry with Kyrie during the social justice situation.
He was very vocal about BLM. He was very vocal about BLM.
He was very vocal about voicing his opinions.
And a lot of people not to get very political here,
but a lot of people that obviously tend to be
on the right side of the equation.
Fucking Kyrie, this and that.
And now that he's sort of anti-vax,
they're like, well, I kind of hated Kyrie,
but now I kind of agree with him. And then who though? I think obviously the anti-vaxxed they're like, well, I kind of hate it, Kyrie, but now I kind of agree with him.
And who though?
I think obviously the anti-vaxx community
or the people that, you know.
You mean the pro-choice community?
Is that what they're calling it these days?
That's great verbiage.
That's a great, uh...
Wait a minute, that's pro-choice, right?
I mean, they're pro-choice, yeah.
Sure, so now...
So now, you see how weird politics is?
Exactly.
You see how weird it is.
See how it backfires on you too though.
It's not back for, I'm bringing up a point that you brought.
I know, I agree with you.
And by the way, here's the thing, do you think I'm a chryophant?
I do not think you're a chryophant.
I've never been a chryophant.
Not his game, his game entertaining, like I will watch that uncle Drew stuff over and over again.
I think the guy is sick, right?
But am I a fan of his style of, no, no, no, no. it's very look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me.
But here's the problem. Matter of fact, let me just read the story and then we'll go into it.
So here's a story about Kyrie. He will not practice or play with the Brooklyn Nets due to a vaccination status.
This is a CNN story. Brooklyn Nets General Manager Sean Marx has confirmed Kyrie Irving.
the CNN story. Brooklyn, its general manager, Sean Marx has confirmed Kyrie Irving will not play or practice with the team until he is eligible to be a full participant as issues
relating to the Stargarts vaccination status continues. Head Coach Steve Nash has admitted
that his team will be without Kyrie even for foreseeable home games. But masks, Marx said
that the nets would not allow a member of the team to be part time. The net's warned the
NBA warned the nets as well as the New York Knicks.
And Golden State Warriors in September
that the new COVID-19 policy set by the local governments
will prohibit any unvaccinated player
from playing in the home games in New York City San Francisco.
Okay, fantastic.
So here's where I go with this.
To me, Kyrie Irving is Colin Kaepernick.
Kyrie Irving to me is Colin Kaepernick. He is taking a kneel.
He's saying, I don't stand with what you stand for.
You're forcing me to stand up and I don't want to do it.
And Colin Kaepernick was what?
A hero because he didn't want to do what the government
was telling him to do.
But because the government's telling Kyrie what to do
in a vaccine and the NBA agrees with it,
he's now a villain.
So let's now ruin his reputation
and he's gonna have to come play and get vaccinated.
There is no difference between him and Colin Kaplan.
So the part that is annoying and dispo,
I understand why people are getting annoyed,
is I watch Stephen A. Yes City.
You know we've had Stephen A on and I've interviewed Stephen A.
And I'm a big fan of Stephen A.
I'm not, this is not like I don't.
So I watch, if I have, if I want to get someone's take on any topic, I go Steve and A.
You're a big fan.
I like Steve and A.
And I go to and I'm looking, I'm like, Steve and A.
What are you saying?
What are you talking about?
Like, what do you mean?
This is championship.
This is championship.
Really?
So go back to five years ago when everybody was talking about calling
capparding kneeling, this is bad for the team,
they can't win a championship, that a championship squad.
It's not about championships,
it's about what you stand for,
it's about what's right for you, it's about this.
Wait a minute, you can't take it one place or the other,
by the way, you're right, that the left and the right
do this all the time, but in this situation here to me,
Kyrie Irving is the new calling capparding, except the new Colin Kaepernick Kyrie is being treated differently than Colin Kaepernick
Colin was a hero Kyrie's a villain. Well, I think in many cases
Kaepernick was also a villain to the game of sports to the game of sports in the sports world. Yeah
Colin was a hero. Let's let's not get it twisted in the world of sports
Colin is a hero Nike did a not get a twisted. In the world of sports, Colin is a hero.
Nike did a massive contract.
40 million all that stuff.
Well, Kai, we complete a picture.
You know something that you brought up
when we were talking about the cavernick stuff earlier,
this is before you guys really graceed us
being on the podcast.
You said that it was on Roger Goodell,
that he messed up.
1 million percent.
That he messed up. He should have intervened real quick, quick likes that this is my league. Let me embrace this got me talk this guy rather than like sweeping it under the rug
Yes, so the question is what should Adam silver do at this point?
It's not it's not on Adam though, but it kind of is it he's the commission but it's not on Adam
You don't tell you what's it because it's because this is a law being passed down by Biden
This is not a law. No, no, this is local state, these are local governments.
Fine, but what's his goal in state?
This is Brooklyn.
Even if they're validates, my point of view.
That validates my point even more.
What I'm trying to say is then that's the government.
It's not an Adams control.
Adam can't do anything about it.
Adam has to say you got to follow the law,
the law of the land and the law of the land
where your living is, the government.
I don't have any control over it.
Just like Southwest Airlines yesterday,
when the story came out, you know how everybody's like, well, Southwest Airlines, well, they canceled because of the government. I don't have any control over it. Just like Southwest Airlines yesterday, when the story came out, you know how everybody's like,
well Southwest Airlines, well they canceled
because of the rain, they canceled because of
whatever they were claiming they canceled for, right?
And then the story comes out, where the CEO,
Flatout comes out and tells the story,
now no these two stories, maybe don't have anything to do.
Are we moving on from Kyrie?
No, I'm staying on, we're gonna come back,
because I wanna hear everybody's,
but I wanna read to you what he said.
So Southwest CEO, the nice thousands of flight cancellations I'm going to come back. I'm going to come back. I want to hear everybody's, but I want to read to you what he said.
So Southwest CEO, the 9000 of flight cancellations, were over vaccine mandates.
Blames absentism, okay?
The post-millennial story.
And then he goes and says, the CEO, Gary Kelly, said he is personally opposed to corporate
vaccine mandates, but that the company had complied with President Biden's order that
all companies would over a hundred workers
require those workers to be vaccinated against COVID-19.
What he's trying to say is, I don't support it,
but what do you want me to do?
It's the law coming down.
So Adam Silver cannot do nothing about it
because the local government is saying
you better get a vaccinated.
What are your thoughts about this, Phil?
Oh my gosh.
We talk about force and choice. Non-freaking stop.
I have a question. And anyone can chime in. What did we do with Magic Johnson with the
whole HIV-A thing when he came back? He was able to play. Yeah, but a lot of the players
did not want to play with him. It didn't matter. They carmolone voices. Yeah. But he still
played. Yeah. Still played. Sick all-stargan that fade away through
the exam. And look at that moment.
We celebrated this man.
We continue to do that through this day.
And that's a little more serious.
I see you going this way.
Right, so think about how serious that was
and what we're talking about with this.
I don't know, guys.
I mean, I think it's, you know, it's a,
by the way, you make,
because Clay Travis said that yesterday,
and I was looking at Clay Travis when he said about magic having AIDS and his Twitter tweet
one viral.
And then I went at the bottom to see the what he called it, the rebuttal to it, right?
Because I want to know the rebuttal.
So the rebuttal was there's a difference between AIDS and COVID because AIDS is not trans,
what he called it, like, you can't just get it, but wait a minute.
I'm sorry, because to me, what are you talking about you going like this?
You're doing this on all right cutting you cut and we got a cut
We got blood so it can still have changed the game with regards to any time
There's a player that has blood on their uniform or shorts or whatever they changed the game with that still to this day
I mean help side note by the way, is it a create like, do you know anybody with AIDS at this point,
other than Matt, like is any, like I feel like AIDS in the 90s.
Yeah, yeah.
But 90s, I was like, but biggest thing in the world, and I don't even know anybody.
But the difference is people with AIDS are living.
That's true.
That's the difference.
So they're in the community living.
They got the cocktail.
Yeah.
Well, just like how they have it now, right?
But they're not forcing certain people.
My question also, I have another question is,
are we within those certain states,
are there mandates for attendees to go watch?
There are. There are.
So everybody has to show a card.
Can I go and stay?
Can I go in New York specifically?
You cannot go into a gym, gymnasium gym,
without showing a vaccination.
So what happened with your comedy show, remember? No, but I'm talking about like, okay, gold state worries, like if I go to a game,, Nazium gym without showing a vaccination. So, what happened with your comedy show, remember?
No, but I'm talking about like, okay, gold and state worries, like if I go to a game,
we went to a game, we'd have to show a card and they'd have to scan it or whatever.
Yeah, yes, wow.
Yes, this is very interesting, I mean, you know, I'm in an independent film that's coming
out on Friday and, you know, they wanted me to come up do the do like the whole premiere and stuff like that good dude
Erick Rooms great great dude movie called midlife and I'm not going, you know
Well, I got things to do here. Obviously, but also I'm not going because I couldn't go and I couldn't go
I couldn't go to the premiere of the movie that I'm in so it is what it is man
It is like at this point is there anything
Anything that would make you get the vaccine at this point. No at the I'll just be real at this point because of everything
They've done I wouldn't get it at this but is it a health? I got a guy. No, I'm a spiritual is it a political thing
It's pure spite and also thing no, but here's the deal
We have allowed the goalpost to move so far past what is beyond acceptable as far as what
government can and can't say about our lives.
That dude, this is a hill I am actually literally willing to die on.
Well, that's not a guy.
No, I'm just saying I am literally, but I also don't really feel that at risk.
I feel like I've said you've lost 50 pounds.
I feel like I have it.
Thanks, bro.
But also I had it when I was mortedly obese,
and I still had a 98, 9.7% chance of surviving.
So I'm not going to give up 100% of my civil rights
for something that I have a 99.8%.
Did you guys survive?
Did you guys see Joe Rogan with Sanjay Gupta yesterday?
Yes.
You see that, Clay?
He really called him a Rogan.
Which he never does.
Yeah.
He went on the offensive for maybe,
I've been listening to Logan for five years.
I've never seen him go on the offensive like that.
It was impressive the way he asked the question.
He said, so do you feel at risk when you go out
and do your thing and you play,
live your life?
It's just not because I'm vaccinated.
It says great.
He says you be in vaccinated,
have the same amount of risk as a kid
that's not vaccinated,
but why are we forcing kids to be vaccinated?
Because out of millions of kids, only 500 kids have died.
And so you have the same ratio of risk.
Why would be forced the kids to get vaccinated?
And he didn't have an answer.
He was stuck because you know, California demanding
to try to talk to him.
He kept trying to pivot also.
But Joe wouldn't let him.
He wouldn't let him.
He wouldn't let him.
Joe crushed it yesterday.
It was great.
Yeah.
But I got to give Gupta credit
for getting out there taking the tough questions.
He felt like Joe, at the beginning of the interview,
was like, how do you feel working for a network that lies?
So look, yeah, and to Gupta's credit,
he's like, yeah, they shouldn't have said that.
And then Joe pressed them and pressed them.
He wouldn't admit that they lie to them.
Something that you say all the time is,
at least like something that's a lie of omission.
Something that Trump does is he'll get on opposite polarizing views
and still state his case.
So you gotta give it a big bang.
But if you go on, if you go on, okay, I get that,
but if you go on opposing platforms and still lie on those
platforms, you don't get grateful.
Did you get grateful?
It's a lie of omission.
It's very simple.
Did they lie about Invermectin?
Well, no, no, no, well, no, that's not true. not true he says no he don't know to they said they shouldn't have said
that yeah but any refused to talk about what's it feel like about the net he
refused to talk about the network consistently line he can be refused
that's a tough situation to be in what he's not that's it's not that's it but I
will talk about the whole thing with line the whole thing with lines CNN line
yesterday of vand Jones flat out I don't know if you guys saw vand Jones yesterday But what matters the whole thing with line the whole thing with lines CNN line yesterday
Van Jones flat out I don't know if you guys saw Van Jones yesterday or not I'm a fan of Van Jones as well although Van Jones was a card carry and you know
Communist years ago and all this stuff you know when he was first linked to Obama
They had to pull him out and say hey, we can't affiliate with you Van Jones that he said listen to honeymoon is over Biden's getting crushed
Okay, and if they continue this way it's not gonna happen
He says the Republican is united.
Republican parties united right now with Congress.
Everyone of them voted the same way.
They just said not, and they're not a single
Republican voted against the, what do you call it?
What do you say?
That's healing.
He says but the Democrats are in shambles right now.
Okay, and if they go the way they're going right now,
it's not gonna be a good midterm, it's not gonna be this.
He says they have 12 months to fix it. then Chris Komo said the final Chris Komo said
he said Van it doesn't matter anyways because even if you guys go there the opposing party is
willing to light your face just to get reelected they're willing to compromise the democracy of
America and Van Jones and the balls that's Chris Komo saying that so so the point is on one and
the on the same exact day when Rogan comes out with
Gupta saying, yeah, you know, they shouldn't have said that, the network light, same day
comb was saying everybody on the other side lies. So, you know, at the end.
To be fair, we could go on to Fox News and find all the lies that I'm not doing on a daily
basis. There is. There is. This is got nothing to do with the
left or the right. This has got to do with the fact that one says
the other doesn't and the other doesn't.
We don't, that's the problem.
It's like, no, no, no, we don't do it.
We're holy, but they do it.
No, both of you have done it,
and both of you have a heart attack coming out and saying,
I'm sorry, we screwed up.
So this is why we're...
They won't admit it.
This is why when somebody comes in and says,
listen, we messed up, you respected.
We had in the past, and that is an argument
that is 100% true over the course of history.
In this moment, in this moment,
we are living in very, very specifically,
the Democratic Party is in complete and total control.
The progressive agenda is everywhere.
It's not some right wing nut job
that's forcing Kyrie Irving to sit. It's not the
pressure from the right wing that has all of his teammates willing to hang him out to dry.
Not a single teammate saying unless my boy Kyrie is out here, I'm not going out there. Not a single one.
But I don't, but Gerard, I think it's bigger than that. And it's in, I don't think a teammate is not with them. I don't think a teammate's not with them.
But I also don't think, there's only two teammates
that have his kind of money.
Okay, there's a big difference between having that kind of money.
You look, you make $2 million in the NBA per year.
Taxes, half gold, they're in New York.
So you got one million left after agent $300,000.
You're taking it, Jeff.
By the way, $2 million your player in NBA's netting 600 grand a year.
Think about that.
It's not a lot of money.
And that's it before they got to pay out to the agent.
All of that stuff.
So you just know they're not as rich as people think they are.
It's a lot of shit.
You're on the veterans minimum.
Yeah, the guys that are making money are hardens,
you know, they're, these guys are making super stars.
So I think there's a part of it where these guys are so much
about walking on exos today.
Just the fact that Lebron, Kudos to Lebron in this situation,
Lebron came out and said,
we made a decision as a family and we chose to go with it.
Guess what?
Salute.
Good for you.
It is you and your family's decision.
And then he said, I believe this is a decision
that should be left to the individual to decide.
So here's a question before we try to solve every one of world's problems today.
What do you think's gonna end up happening to Kyrie?
Well, what's gonna happen to Kyrie? Is he?
Look, is he gonna die on the sword and set on retina?
Because this is a debate.
I think he's retired.
Or you think he's gonna take the vaccine?
Or you think he's gonna get traded to like a red state?
A couple different things.
Let me just say this very clearly. It's his choice, personal choice, no mandates, cool. or you think he's gonna take the vaccine, or you think he's gonna get traded to like a red state. A couple different things.
Let me just say this very clearly.
It's his choice, personal choice, no mandates, cool.
We're good with that.
If he actually wants to use his voice,
cause that's what his whole thing is.
I have a voice, I wanna use it.
I have this platform.
Look how quickly he's gonna lose his voice
if he doesn't actually end up playing basketball.
Shut up and dribble. If I'm not saying hit for just shut up't actually end up playing basketball. Shut up and dribble.
If I'm not saying hit for just shut up and dribble, talk all you fucking want and dribble.
But if you're not gonna play basketball, people don't care about you, bro.
You're gonna get more eyeballs and more people listening to when you're bowling out and
you're scoring 28 a night and you're and people, oh, Kyrie did this.
Check out this film.
But think about what you're saying.
But here, let me finish my point.
If he's not gonna play ball,
and he doesn't play ball for two years,
I don't see him even being in headlines at that point.
You think that he should do something
that he finds morally repugnant
in order to play a game and make money
from the game that he's clearly
one of the best in the world at.
How do you think he gets paid?
By doing things that are morally repugnant,
how do you think he gets paid? doing things that are morally repugnant? How do you think he gets paid? He's paid someone gave you 200 million dollars Gerard Michael someone gave you
200 million dollars you wouldn't get the vaccine if you say no you're an idiot
Dude at some point there's something more than money at some point. There's something on the line more than money
This is a hundred million dollars to get approval vaccines come on here this is the first of all it's not proven stop that bullshit it's the
last boosters nine five months old i worked in far more sales we're not going
to know anything for five years this might be a miracle because you work
this might harm a sales now you're an expert have you ever watched anything
late at night if you took under mect at nineteen point two you're invited
you talk about so for two hundred so how would it question your
academic basically we are how much would it cost for you to take the vaccine you're asking about. So for 200, so how much, a question? You're asking me basically, we are asking,
what cost for you to take the vaccine?
You're asking, what are your morals worth?
You're asking how morally bankrupt?
Absolutely as moral factors.
That's what you're asking.
I'm not having a surprise.
How much do I wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
I let you talk.
The nurses are making $200 million.
They're gonna lose their job.
The doctors are not making $200 million.
They're gonna lose their job.
The pilots, you stop.
The pilots are not making $200 million. They're gonna lose their job. The pilots, stop, the pilots are not making $200 million.
They're gonna lose their job.
This is bigger than Kyrie Irving.
Kyrie Irving is not standing up for Kyrie Irving.
He's standing up for every single one of the people
in this entire world that are being forced to do something
that they don't wanna do by a government that has lost its way.
This is bigger than Kyrie Irving.
And he's got money.
He's got some more Kairi Erick.
That's be real.
You're on the side of forced.
If there's no price, you like, let's
stop treating this vaccine like it's a bad thing.
Let's stop treating this.
Let's stop treating COVID like it's exactly what
damn survival rate.
I think, I think, I think, I think, by the way, this exact
how emotional this gets is exactly how a lot of people are feeling right now.
Why is this even this heated of a debate?
It's a choice.
Do you take it, take it, you don't take it,
it's not a revision.
If it's gonna make millions and millions of dollars,
I don't think that's what.
He's already worth millions and millions and millions of dollars.
But guess what, that's still the guy's choice
if he doesn't want to do it.
I said at the top of the segment, it's his choice.
It's still his choice.
It's also his choice.
And you may not play basketball.
You may not be a teammate.
By the way, you make a very valid point because I'll give you the flip side of it.
You know how people say stuff like, if I was Tiger, I would have never done that with
16 different women and all this stuff.
You know what I say to them?
You know what I say to them?
Why don't you go back to being two years old, play golf for 20 years, become the greatest
in the world, have every person in the world pay attention to you, try to go to Walmart. Go ahead. Go ahead and do it. Because right now
when you go to Walmart, the cashier doesn't even look at you. It's a big difference.
So you don't know what it is to be, so we don't know what it is to be tiger, just like Gerard
doesn't know what it is for the nets to say, here's 200 million, take the vaccine. He
doesn't know that. You don't know that. None of us know that until you're put in a situation
like that's a very weird situation to be in.
I had a board call recently,
it was not a comfortable board call on this thing coming up.
I can't openly talk about what the conversation was about,
but it wasn't comfortable.
It's a very difficult conversation.
And I said, look, I'm the guy that left the ramen.
I'm about choices.
I'm here because I like choices.
I don't like forces.
I like choices.
And I fully support our guys that are getting it, and I fully
support the guys that are not getting it.
What I don't support is you not wanting to go educate yourself.
Whether you're the person that's not, and whether you're the person that is, I have guys
that don't want to get their seven-year-old parents the shot.
And I said, I just want you to know, go do a little research on who distinct helps based
on where they're at.
I support my dad got it, my nanny got it, and not a single time have that guy on
judge about it. But I'm going to go back to my question. I didn't ask what he
should do. I didn't ask what he should do because it's a different conversation.
I'm asking, what do you think he'll end up doing? What do you think will end up
happening to Kyrie? Do you think this is going to be a guy that's going to go
to the very end? Or do you think this is going to be a guy that's going to get
traded? Do you think he's going to be retiring? Or do you think that's gonna go to the very end. Or do you think this is gonna be a guy that's gonna get traded?
Do you think he's gonna be retiring?
Or do you think he's just gonna take a year off?
I think he might just take a year off.
Okay, I think he's gonna take a year off.
What do you think he's gonna do?
Look, I'll say it again,
if you wanna not do this, that's your choice.
But we've all played team sports.
You guys, huh?
Okay, well, I know you were the Iranian
Dennis Rodman in high school.
I mean, you had some sharp elbows. I played team business. But,, okay. Well, I know you were the Iranian Dennis Rodman in high school. You had never ordered it. I played team business. But look selfishly as a Miami heat fan.
I love Kyrie not playing because Brooklyn that's what the favorites. So if we're going to talk
sports, all right, my heater looking pretty damn good right now. What do you think he's going
to do? Not what do you think he should? I think he's like, I've actually hung out with
Kyrie before. One of my best friends is very close. He's a works with the Celtics.
He represents Marcus Smart.
And I've been out to dinner with them.
I've gone to the club with them.
We've had a private boss take us around.
I've hung out with Kyrie.
Legit cool guy.
He does have a big ego.
Sad at the head of the table.
Durned dinner, paid for the whole check,
paid for everything.
I guess if you're gonna pay for everything,
you can have that.
First of all, dude, there's not a lot of guys.
If this guy plays 82 games versus any other point girl playing 82 games, he's a top three.
This guy's not so good.
So the ego comes with a amount of yourcy practice with his dad in play.
The ego comes with the territory, but do you think he's gonna do it?
I think he, the point that I was gonna make is, if I'm his teammate, I'm thinking, look bro,
like we can't win this without you,
we're gonna need you to step up here.
I don't.
They're already in the conversation.
What is he gonna do?
I don't think he's gonna do it.
Okay, so I think he's gonna,
I think he's gonna, I think he's gonna,
I think he's gonna, I think he's that far
into the situation right now that he's gonna do it.
Kai, let me ask you a question.
Kai, from Norway, who won the NBA Championship
two years ago? Two years ago, the Lakers. Okay, he's nice. Kai from Norway. Who won the NBA championship two years ago? Two years ago?
The Lakers. Okay. He has Kai. Thanks. David, who was the NBA MVP three years ago?
Jack Hayden.
LeBron. Okay. Who's Colin Kaepernick?
The QB. Okay. Hey, who? Kai, you're from Norway, right? Who's Martin Luther King Jr.?
He's the guy who stood up against racism. Okay, who's Rosa Parks?
She didn't sit, she didn't sit in the back of the bus. Okay, who won the MVA and MVP in 1969?
Gosh, who knows. But you know what the other two are.
Exactly. Something's really basketball. Stop.
Something's really basketball.
Now okay, so Kyrie is fucking Martin Luther King now.
Can I ask Rosa Parks? Wait, dude, stop it. You're talking about, you Okay, so Kyrie is fucking Martin Luther King now. Take us to Rosa Parks. Wait dude
Stop it. Wait, you're talking about you're talking about
Because he won't take a vaccine because somebody won't sit in the back of the bus stop it
It's a seat on the same bus
You're fucking out of your mind
You didn't play basketball shut up and do what he's told. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
I can't do it.
Every year.
Most of the parks wasn't getting $200 million either.
Shut up and do what you're told.
Go to the back of the bus.
Shut up and do what we tell you to do.
If I say you're trying to throw Martin Luther King on Rosa Parks next to a Kyrie
and Irvin.
Shut up and do what you're told.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
I said from the get go, you can do whatever you want.
It's cover make control that he's talking about.
Stop pretending that Martin Luther King is Kyrie.
Let me give you my side. Let me give you my side. Here's covering control that he's talking about. You're running the more new to their king. It's Kyrie. Let me give you my side.
Let me give you my side.
Here's what's going to happen.
OK.
My thing's going to happen as a following.
If Kyrie goes and gets vaccinated,
he's all about getting attention.
I don't know if this made sense.
No, or he broke into the pressure.
No, but no, Kyrie's historically
been about getting the attention.
Such an, oh, I'm really going through
challenging time-emotion because of what's going on
with the rights and protesting.
Okay, and you come and play in the playoffs,
or you don't play in the playoffs.
Okay, fine.
If Kairi truly stays to his core and doesn't do anything
about it, he's a true believer.
It's that simple, okay?
So he's either gonna be like, yeah, okay, fine,
I'll do it, money, whatever, I'll go into it.
After a lot of thought with my family,
we've decided I'm gonna get the vaccine,
here's what I'm gonna do, great.
There's a big difference between a true believer
and somebody that needs attention.
And we know, attention is attention.
I mean, Roger Stone says there's no bad publicity, right?
You always want to get it.
So we're gonna find that out.
Yes, he wants it for all.
Yeah, we're gonna find that out.
So this is probably the biggest one.
I think if I'm a pro. I think if I think if I'm Chi-Rez advisor,
if I'm Chi-Rez advisor, I sit down and I say,
listen, let's turn off the cameras.
It's you and I, bro.
I'm not on the camera.
Nobody knows who I am.
I don't need the attention.
I'm your guy we're talking.
He says, yeah.
I said, what do you wanna do?
It's a bad, I'm really talking to my mom.
I totally get it, man.
And you truly believe this., fully believe this, yes.
Why don't you take a year off?
Take a year off.
You know what a year off's gonna do to him?
Nothing.
He has money, he can handle a year off.
You don't think a year from now people
are not gonna want to sign a chai re-eving
when he's a free agent?
I think they are.
I think a year from now he's still gonna have a job.
If and in the next 12 months,
what could happen next 12 months? Here's what could happen next If, and in the next 12 months, what could happen next 12 months?
Here's what could happen next 12 months.
And in the next 12 months, a lot can change.
I mean, a lot of stuff can change.
Market can change, politics can change.
We have new problems, new crisis.
How quickly do we go from talking about Russia?
How quickly did Russia get turned off?
Overnight, right?
How quickly doesn't event that take place
that we thought it was the end of the world get turned off.
Overnight and we go to the next news story, right? New cycle. Yeah. Okay, whatever. So I think if he really wants,
he can afford to take a year off. Take the season off. You're totally fine, bro. Hey, for personal family reasons,
I've decided to take the season off here, and that you keep the money, whatever it is. And let me see what I'm
going to do next year. Totally fine. I think if he did that, and it's coming from a real reasonable place,
I agree with you.
I think the one year would be the right position to take.
And in regards to what you're saying with his teammates
having a conversation,
I can guarantee you a Durantat the conversation with them.
I can guarantee you a heart and set the conversation with them.
I can guarantee you a heart and had the conversation
with them.
Or if I don't think Nash had the conversation with them,
I don't think Nash is a pusher.
I don't think Nash is like a...
No, not like that.
I mean, like just have...
I don't think Nash is a pop.
I don't think Nash is a...
Meaning he just wanted to understand.
He's probably gonna come more from that standpoint.
John Marx, the GM.
I think he had the conversation.
No, for a fact, he had a conversation with him.
So we're gonna see what's gonna happen.
By the way, hey, it's a story.
We'll see what'll take place.
But, you know, again, I think it's the new Colin Ka cavernick. They're just treating them slightly different than column was treated column was a hero
Kyrie's a villain to the record. I would take the vaccine for two hundred million dollars of course you will okay
And you would and and FYI for two hundred million dollars you wouldn't take the vaccine. I
Can't fill he's I can't. We hold these two. For 200? Do you know how many created, oh, there, no. By their three, they're not.
No, they're not.
Let me say this real quick.
Oh my God.
Let me say it.
Let me say it.
You're about to throw away.
Let me say this real quick.
You're saying stop.
If you know your own blood work and gene variance
and all these other things, and if you've fallen
to the category of like, hey, if you take this,
these are the side effects that actually could be,
as I've said, by your preexisting conditions
and may put you in a bad situation, that's where I'm at.
Because I've done, you have health concerns with that.
I have health proof.
Because I've done the research, I've done the work,
I mean, hell, I'm seven times from that big of a challenge.
You had a challenge, of course.
Yeah, so it's personal story.
So I have to, because I along with everybody else
should be more informed of their own body
and their own blood work and meet with certain doctors.
So then they can make an informed choice.
For me, I did that.
I took it upon myself to go do that.
My parents, they got the Vax.
Smart.
My mom is, she'll be 71 this year.
My stepfather, my father passed seven years ago,
but my stepfather is 88 and he's had two lung surgeries. So of course he's going to take
this. You know, so I mean, I'm not like, oh man, you guys are stupid. No, this is your choice.
There's people that have taken a vaccine right now that are willing to go say I never took
the vaccine to take the vaccine again to get that $200 billion. Yeah, I just want to look
at you. You know, it looks like I didn't take it again.
I wish we were doing this podcast and you know, 1775 so I can hear you defend the British
Empire, man.
I wish.
There's nothing.
There's nothing wrong with what the British are doing.
I've seen you do.
So what?
You've got to put a soldier in your house.
What's the big deal?
Look at what the British did.
I've seen you do.
We're going to be in a 30 bucks, bro. For 200 for 200 million you're gonna get on your high horse and be like
I would never I would never I'd rather die on my sword on the hill than $200
I love you like a brother shut the fuck up
You're kidding me. You're literally $200 million. No, no, no, no, no
I'm gonna forget that
You think the nurses should get it and get to keep their jobs.
I'm not talking about the nurses.
I'm talking about Kyrie Irving.
So what the fuck is the difference?
I'm talking about you.
It's not a matter of scale.
What the hell said that you wouldn't get this out of
the difference?
What is the difference?
Don't you realize that that plays into maybe an
agenda that we don't know about?
Yeah, so what you're saying, Arvand,
what you're saying is that your morality's for sale.
It's not going up 50 grand.
For this in big bold letters, for $200 million, yes, I'm for sale.
All right, we're gonna play that game later after this is over.
What else do you do for $200 million?
I mean, I would definitely get the vaccine.
All right.
He's, he's, he's, he's, he's double penetrated, right?
Cause you need to have one to get vaccinated.
Sorry.
He said he would, this is the short clip, David.
Adam gets double penetrated for 200
Table and do naughty things around men naked for 10 grand. I do that for free
Boom there it is put that on the show
Let's continue. Let's continue for free around brunch of men. Okay. All right. Let's continue to next story
So you so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt
I'm gonna go two stories back to back with you
You were bragging about how you've been listening to Duane Johnson's new song on repeat for 24 hours
Yeah, so DJ is now apparently a rapper and he said some stuff about politics
I'm gonna read both of the stories and both of them have to do with Duane Johnson Kai. You do what you need to do with it
So let's go through it. So page three
And by the way, we all watched a video. You've seen the song, right?
I'm assuming you've listened to the song, Phil.
Do we watch it together?
Yeah, we watch it together.
We watch it together.
So the truth about Duane Johnson's rap debut,
Nicki Swift's story, on October 8,
Tech 9, released its new single, Face Off,
featuring Joey Cool, King Isle, and Duane Johnson for the latter.
In particular, this was an exciting exciting experience made my historic rap debut. Thankfully. I didn't suck
Johnson tweeted one day of the song's release
I never had the ambition to be in a to be a hip-hop artist or rapper
But I did see an opportunity here to create a song that really inspired a motivating me to push for more and fight for more
I've always loved music. I love hip- and blues and outlaws, outlaw country music,
and Johnson's newly launched rap career
isn't motivated by money or fame,
though that's not the important thing,
the thing that gets my attention these days
and gets me out of bed, have to do,
have to be the things that I absolutely love
and I'm absolutely passionate about.
I'm glad I believe in this guy's word,
nearly half a billion dollars,
he's trying to become famous,
he's the most famous guy in the world.
The guy's saying if he needs a little bit more fame.
And then I'll pause there before I go to the next story
with him and Adam, I'm gonna come to you
since you really had some thoughts on this.
What do you think about this new song?
Were you impressed?
I think we all have thoughts on it.
Real quick, I'll go around, round table,
then I'll give him my point.
Do you think his song was good?
He was good, the fact that he was able to team up
with someone who he's been a fan of for a long time,
which I have nine, because I remember chatting with him
and he always mentioned him.
So I think what's cool about Deweyne
is that he's always able to collaborate.
And he has that juice.
So the collaboration you like, the song.
Hey, like the collaboration.
Hey Phil.
It's definitely something where I'm like well
I'm not I'm not like I give it like a seven five eight really you know no because I mean there's still a collaboration with it
I'm not gonna say it totally sucked I'm gonna say that
Is he Shaqil no say you like the song?
Say you like the song is he should kill no I'm so I'm so is he is he is he is he game dollar shack
Don't point five as long as DJ produces a documentary
Great
What do you give it?
I did I loved it, but I love wrestling though. I'm a wrestling mark, bro This brought me back in the day man. I used to listen to the macho man back in the day
Tarot
Ressling like a monkey. Oh, yeah, like I love that stuff. What did you like it?
All right, well, I'll make two different points here. Well, maybe three. I thought the song was fucking horrible.
It was, I'll come out and say I thought it was bad.
I think tech nine is nonexistent.
If you named the top 100 rappers,
tech nine would not be in the equation.
Stop, stop.
Let me show you red nation.
Stop.
I don't like, if you said,
if you said, if you said,
if you said the top 100 rappers in the world,
tech nine wouldn't be on the list.
All right, boy, boy.
Maybe people in the comments think it's correct your house
because I'm telling you right now, Tech9 is,
what?
Tech9 is 50 something years old.
And how old is, and how old is Snoop?
How old is Ice Cube?
How old is,
Phil, Phil, he,
you comparing Snoop,
no, no, no, I'm saying,
I'm 10 rapper of all time,
it's not that you're putting,
you're putting words in my mouth.
What I'm saying is,
is that this is a guy who has been,
I don't want to get into fight today.
I think he's reaching for something. No doubt.'s it. Have three cups of coffee. Well,
maybe that's why, but I mean, you went out there. If you see
these guys in person, you don't want to mess with your
art. What's your second point? What's your second point? Okay,
so I'll give him his credit. I'll give him credit. And this
maybe will help the audience. Little bit his last point. I love
hip-hop and blues and and outlaw country music. This is not
motivated by money or fame.
That's not the important thing.
The things that get my attention these days,
get me out of bed, have to be the things
that absolutely love and are passionate about.
I love that part.
Because I thought the song was not good at all.
I wouldn't listen to it if it was,
I don't care if it's a tech nine, rock, whatever.
It's not that good of a song.
However, what I do appreciate,
and this is what other people can get out of this is
your comfort zone will kill you.
Get out of your comfort zone.
He said he's not a rapper, but he wanted to do this.
Cool, powerful.
We all do things that you second guess.
I don't know, it's not really for me.
I don't know if I, whether it's rap,
whether it's bodybuild, whether it's rap, whether it's bodybuild,
whether it's start a business, whatever it is,
at some point you're gonna doubt yourself.
At some point you're gonna say,
I'm not rapper about what I'm talking about.
I get a push because I can't do it.
And the fact that he went out there and did that,
I respect that.
You have to get out of your comfort zone.
Your comfort zone will kill you.
This is what, I'm happy that a celebrity
isn't out there bitching moan in her lecture on me.
This is what rich people should do right like you want to you want to
go out there and sing sing you want to get get in a music video get in a music
right now
dude live your dreams man like go for it i don't think it was nearly as bad
and also i am unashamedly a rock fan
and i used to love watching money night raw when he would come out with his
guitar and he would sing about you know you would sing about the uh... what was it it? The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the It could have been a little more fun. It could have been like a little more on brand. But look, I only ever criticize art
when I feel like I could have done better.
I think I could have done better.
I think the rock, he did what he could do.
It was fun.
Adam, you got bars?
I got bars.
Bullshit.
Drop a, drop a, drop a,
I freestyle for you yesterday.
Oh, that shit was terrible.
And you're saying that he sucked?
I'm not a rapper, but I got out of my comfort zone.
But neither is I, I got out of my comfort zone. I got out of my comfort zone.
You didn't do it.
You didn't do it with 300 million people watching.
What other than it being a tequila commercial?
Because we didn't have as good, did you like his song?
I'm probably not gonna listen to it ever again.
I will tell you that.
I'm probably not gonna listen to it again,
but I probably, maybe it's because I've listened
to Moana, you're welcome, one too many times.
And I'm so addicted to that one because that song,
when he's saying that one, that was actually sick.
I think that's his genre.
I don't know if I felt a hip-hop thing with him,
but I think he's got a voice.
I think if he wants to do something,
he can do something with that.
When you see PBD, no.
Drop a rap video.
The day that happens, it's just.
You know what I like in this talk?
Real talk.
Him rapping, getting out there there putting myself out there is
P.B.D. Getting out there and doing some stand-up comment. Yeah, that that is eventually gonna happen
Yeah, I think I think that's eventually gonna happen
But you know yesterday there was an interview I watch with him that he put on his Instagram account
And he says can I curse on this? Can I curse on this? He says yeah
You can't so he started talking and he says so tell me you know
What is the thing about being a celebrity? And he explains what it is to be a celebrity?
He says, what's the toughest thing about being a celebrity?
He said, I will never complain about being a celebrity.
This thing's changed my life.
I have nothing to have no right to complain.
I love the attitude, man.
I love that attitude.
I love a guy that goes to his agent when he's just a wrestler
and he says, I wanna be Will Smith, but better.
I love a guy that's got a vision for himself
and he's so obsessed and determined to go out there and win.
I love that part of rock.
I fully love that part of rock.
And I think he's at a point right now
that anything he touches, who won here?
Teknino rock.
Teknino.
No, Teknino won here.
Oh, yay.
We're talking about Teknino.
You got more visibility in the world.
We're talking about Teknino. You should debate about Teknino. The last time that you knew. Yeah, you got more of his ability. We're talking about techno.
You should debate about techno.
It was the last time that you,
have you ever heard of techno?
I have heard of techno.
But I'm not gonna.
I know.
I know.
Anyway, so now let me go to the other story.
Let me go to the other story, which is page six,
if you wanna go to where he was being interviewed
and talked about politics.
I got him on my phone.
Here's what was brought up.
So, Dwayne Johnson admits,
Dwayne Johnson admits he doesn't know
the first thing about politics
while teasing a possible 2024 White House run.
While Dwayne Johnson is not ruling out
a presidential run in the future,
he also admitted his own shortcomings
stating that he doesn't know
the first thing about politics.
You know, at the end of the day,
I don't know the first thing about politics.
I don't know the first thing about policy. I care deeply about our country. I care about
every African American who bleeds red and that's all of them. And there is no delusion
here. I may have some decent leadership qualities, but that doesn't necessarily make me a great
presidential candidate. That's where I am today. Fantastic comment to make about it and
to be honest about it. However, I will say
There is no way in the world rock doesn't know anything about politics
He is in he made it to the top of two the most political
Industries in the world Pile wrestling yes hardcore is political when he first came out and he says I'm not he said he says
I'm not gonna be the bad guy. I'm not gonna be the bad and the rest of that's the enemy.
I'm not gonna be that guy.
I'm gonna be the good guy, the hero, the loved one.
He made that decision, that's the role I wanna play, right?
In Hollywood, how political is it?
And he comes in a guy that's as big as he is
and the last guy that made it in Hollywood was,
that size is Arnold.
Arnold, when I made it happen.
And this guy goes and makes it happen.
So yes, he's been in politics for the last 25 years.
He has more experience in politics
than 99% of political candidates
to undermine that part of it.
The guy knows how to play the game,
sitting there with big agents and billionaires
negotiating contracts and deals and Zoa and XFL
and all this other stuff.
He's fully qualified to want to do it.
Now the area that I do agree with him is
he probably needs a year of sitting there with
people, asking him questions to see what his real answer is going to be.
I'm doing a ton of research.
Read this book.
Read this article.
Watch this documentary.
Go through this.
Watch this debate.
Look how this guy handled.
Look how Reagan handled it.
Look how Obama handled it.
Look at the mistake here was made by Rick Perry.
Look at the mistake here.
It was made by this person.
And in that part, he needs help in that because it is another game. He needs to go higher the errand spiser
of. And he can't. And you can. And I think that's, of course, that goes to show that it
is about running mace as you talk about. He's always had a great team. He was teamed with
Danny Garcia and TGC and all that stuff shout out to them. But overall, I mean, he's always been able to really win.
You look at some of the films, like he'll make fun of some of his own films
that didn't gross better than some of the other ones he's done.
Is there anybody more likable than you're all curious?
Is there any star, more like any superstar more likable than him?
I don't think so.
The only guy I think, there's only really two that are even close.
Heart.
And I would say, I'd say Chris Pratt and Downey June,
not Kevin.
Maconnay.
No.
Maconnay maybe.
Maybe.
Robert Downey Jr.
Very, very likable.
Josh Brown, but they're not the size of the star that he is.
No, that's not those guys are very likable.
But it comes down to Ryan Reynolds.
Ryan Reynolds is incredibly likable.
Well, at least this is their personalities.
I don't know them.
I'm talking about Tom Cruise level, rock level,
Brad Pitt level, Leonardo DiCaprio level.
I'm talking that level.
I'm talking Kim Kardashian level.
I'm talking anybody liked more than this guy.
I would say maybe Chris Pratt.
Chris Pratt.
I don't think Chris Pratt is anywhere in the world.
I think he's not.
But what I will say is, I don't think Chris Pratt is. I don't think Chris Pratt is anywhere in the world. I don't think he's not. I don't think he's not.
Well, what I will say is, I mean, we all know that this is a man
of great discipline and hard work.
He talks about all the time, but he actually does it.
And he's not afraid of a challenge.
So I think to your point, he's gonna do the work.
He's probably already been doing it.
He's always the hardest working in the room as he says,
but also, like you gotta think,
when he's been doing prior to COVID movie after movie after movie after movie after movie, business after business,
his capacity is what I look at most
when you're talking about being in politics
because if he is starting out at, you know,
let's say the season vetters, the career politicians
are up here and he's like right down here,
he's gonna make sure that he's up here
very, very quick to be competitive.
And I think that's what's gonna separate him from other people, and he's gonna make
people watch because they're gonna see, I trust that he's gonna be extremely competitive
with whatever he does.
And we don't know, we just have to wait and see, but I mean, I think it's a great point.
I trust that he's gonna be extremely competitive, whatever he would have to, I fully agree.
And he would push other people.
I mean, I fully agree. He would have to. I fully agree. And he would push other people.
I fully agree.
He'd have to stop one issue with people.
He'd have to stop everything else he's doing.
That's exactly what that's gonna say.
I have to give it all up.
He shouldn't do it.
Yeah.
Let me make one quick.
Yeah.
Three P's that come to mind.
The politics.
You said he's been doing politics for a couple decades now.
The persona.
No doubt.
What's so ever? Likeable. Gregorious. Name recognition. Above all. a couple decades now. The persona, no doubt whatsoever, likable,
gregarious, name recognition above all.
The thing at question that you're talking about
is the policy.
Does he actually know policy?
I think he does.
Does he actually understand ramifications of saying things?
Does he actually understand that?
Oh, we don't talk about many sound bites
that he's done wrong or anything
because he's been well groomed and he knows who he is.
So I think when you know who you are,
you can actually speak from the heart
and that's what he does pretty well.
I give him that props for that.
And he's unafraid to say that,
hey, I'm some of a layman to this subject,
but I know who I am and I'm probably gonna be able
to do what Pat recruit. Recruit the best people to ensure that he wins.
I think he's afraid though.
That's, I do think he is afraid,
and I think he's afraid of one thing.
Here's what he's afraid of.
He's afraid of, he's so liked
that I think a part of him is afraid of not being liked.
Okay, I think he will be afraid of losing fans.
And it is so important to him to be loved.
You know, the five-level languages go through all of it.
I think it matters to him so much to be loved.
That's a great point.
I don't think he understands how to deal with authority.
I think he knows how to manage authority.
And it's very kudos to him because your entire life, you're to have to learn how to manage. If you don't know how to deal
with authority, you're not going to make it to the top. There isn't, you know the soul thing about
rebel against authority. I'm sorry, good luck to you. You have to know how to work with them.
You have to know how to work with authority. This doesn't mean sitting there, this doesn't
mean sitting there and bounding down, but it means you have to understand the power positions.
If you don't understand that concept, good luck to you.
You have a limit to where you're going to hit.
He understands playing the power players, dealing with the bosses, dealing with the money,
people dealing with the directors, kudos to him.
But I think he's so concerned about being like that.
I don't think politically he's going to go on the side that's truly him.
Let me, politically, let me finish.
Okay.
I think politically he's going go to side that's gonna please
the last industry he was a part of and i think it's gonna back for me should talk
to and you and he should talk to tell us about if that's the case then he needs
to talk to them and because you know i just talked to you about
andryang was on sam harris very very open and honest about how how bad it was
being a part of the dnc i think there was a big difference with the
running for mayor versus running for office.
It's a very different because he was a lead dog and lost,
but he was nobody and he garnered some attention.
I watched the whole thing about that.
Yeah, it was very interesting.
So the, you said there was three P's, right?
There was, what was it?
Politics, personal, policy.
All right, and then some other P in there.
At a fourth P.
And that's prophecy because the movie,
Idiocracy has the downfall of the corporate states at a fourth p and that's uh... prophecy because uh... the movie idiotic he has
the townfall of the corporate states of america when a wrestler named
dwein takes over his president so
we can fulfill the prophecy
what profit again for that to happen
he somebody has to tell them
you're gonna go from the most alike guy to the most hated guy and it's going to
happen
how many decisions has he made up
uh... f-y-i here's the other part guy and it's going to happen. How many decisions has he made though?
FYI, here's the other part with him.
Here's the other part with him.
So think about what Andrew's trying to do,
new party, the forward party.
And the whole thing he was talking about was Catherine Gail,
which I've interviewed then, and Catherine Gail launched her
book on value taming with Michael Porter.
Is that right?
Well, yeah, Catherine Gail, Mark, you remember that interview
that we did and this whole point system were first place.
It doesn't help you to be bashing everybody
because you're gonna drop that whole point system
that we're talking about.
If you get fifth place votes, it works out.
It's a very interesting concept
that they're talking about.
Okay, but can this guy really lead a new party?
No.
Andriang?
No, he can't carry that.
Can the rock?
He's brilliant, but I don't think he's charismatic.
I think Yang is a great number three or a number four.
He's not a two or one.
I don't think...
Can he be the one in the rock?
That would be very powerful.
I don't think Yang is a number one.
I don't think Yang is a number one.
There's difference to number one.
I think rock is a good number one.
But the rock, if he really wanted to do it the right way
and he really wanted to be a synergist and he really wanted to bring both sides closer to each other here's how you do it when my parents got a divorce
And they were going through it both sides wanted to win me over
It's kind of like hey, you know I'm this I'm this I'm that I said said mom
Listen you're my mom. I love you, but please don't talk about about that
I don't like it and I told the family if you guys talk about my my dad
I don't need to see you because I don't like it. And I told the family, if you guys talk about my dad, I don't need to see you, because I love my dad more
than I love you guys.
It's that simple.
Then I went to my dad's side and my dad's
I was talking shit about my mom.
He's a Borosian.
The Armenians would say, he's a bad David.
He's an Assyrian.
Armenians would say, the other ones would say,
he's a Borosian, he's Armenian.
They would play that game.
And I told my mom's family, I said, listen,
I love my dad, I love my mom.
Please don't talk trash.
It's just not gonna fly.
Anyways, eventually, they realized this guy's not missing Ron.
We're in the US, I haven't seen my dad for 20, half years.
A lady comes to our house, it's me, my mom, my sister,
and she says, Gabriel wants to see his kids.
And he wants to know if you guys gonna let him see his kids.
And my mom says, so what do you guys wanna do?
I said, I wanna see my dad, absolutely.
You don't even know how tough of a decision I was,
because my life sucked for about six months after saying that.
So I said, I want to see my dad.
You want to see your dad?
I want to see my dad.
So my dad comes and picks me up at Virgil's
and we go and spend the Sunday together.
How long have you been since the Jettin'le?
Two and a half years.
My dad's my best friend.
You know, you guys don't have a fill about my dad.
So I said, I want to see my dad.
So I go and spend a whole day and a half of my dad picks me up and we have good conversations to
get. I told him stuff I didn't like and all this other time, 12 years old, 12 and a half years old.
But both sides got a glimpse of, listen, it's family, it's everybody coming together, that's it.
Or I'm not compromising. And that became a backbone to the family to realize,
this guy's not gonna compromise.
My entire life, that's been my ammo, okay?
If the rock wants to be a synergist
and wants to bring America together
and wants to be a hero where you remembered
a thousand years from now, 500 years from now,
where you become the first guy that saves the democracy
on average, the democracy on average.
The democracy doesn't last past 250 years and we're at 246 years, right?
Now give it 245 years, whatever the timeline is, 1776.
If he comes and he says, I'm running as an independent and he says, these are the things
I disagree on the right, but these are the things I like on the right.
I'm a pro-military guy because here's what the military is done for me.
I'm a pro-police guy. Here's what I don't agree with the left, but I like on the right. I'm a pro-military guy, because here's what the military's done for me. I'm a pro-police guy.
Here's what I don't agree with the left, but I tell you one thing.
I work with a lot of people in the LGBTQ community.
These are some of the nicest people I've ever dealt with.
Here's what I disagree with, but I've dealt with it.
He says, I'd like to bring America together.
And this is why I'm running as independent.
If he does that, let me tell you, he could win, and he ain't no the guy that got 21%,
19% running against senior, which senior doesn't comment
about one guy, and you know what I'm talking about?
Senior in his documentary, at the end of the day,
the last thing, there's one person in the interview
he wouldn't talk about.
He said, I don't wanna talk about Ross Pro.
I don't wanna talk about him.
I don't wanna talk about him.
You have to see on his eyes, he gets upset
when Ross Pro's conversation, and then comes up. This ain't Ross Pro. I don't want to talk about him. I don't want to talk about him. You have to see on his eyes, he gets upset when Ross Pro's conversation and then comes up.
This ain't Ross Pro, bro.
This is Duane Johnson.
Duane could win as an independent.
He'll go into history books as one
the greatest synergist at the greatest time in America,
but here's a thing.
I'll give you a 5% chance he does it
because he's too much about being liked.
And a part of being independent,
people are not gonna like you.. You think the quote unquote deep state
would let something like that happen?
You think our military industrial complex
would let something like that happen?
Okay, so this is a part where I'm gonna remind you
of something that you believe in
and you gotta go to your core with that.
I believe the people are more powerful than they know.
And I still believe people are more powerful than they know. The first thing that goes is faith. We talked about this on the
last podcast. There are a lot of people of faith that are very necessary. Whether you believe
in God, whether you like Christianity, Catholicism, Mormonism, you know, Jehovah seven day, whether
you like or agree with any of that stuff or not, here's what you desperately need. You desperately
need a big percentage of America to have faith.
You desperately need that.
That grandma that has that faith in his grandson, when the mother doesn't believe him, and the grandma
says, listen, be patient with your son.
I was patient with you.
This kid is a special kid.
He's going places.
I'm telling you, I have faith in him.
Be patient with him.
That grandma with that faith is what makes that mother's relationship and the father's relationship be better with the son. Thank God for the Christians and the God-fearing God-loving
people in America, whoever, whatever faith you practice, Judaism, I don't care what it is,
whatever you practice, the people who have faith in something, they're going to be able to pull
something like this off. So whether the deep state wants to get in the way and they don't want to
do anything about it, the deep state couldn't stop Trump and Trump is not as big as Iraq.
There's no way Trump and the Iraq are in the same league.
Go back to 2014 and look at some of Trump's tweets when he would tweet.
324 likes.
317 likes.
428 likes.
This is a guy that became president and he was only getting 300 likes seven years ago.
Go look at Trump's, do you know Johnson's tweets?
Go look at doing Johnson's tweets, they're saying the same.
You're talking about potentially the biggest personality
ever to run.
I just hope he gets the right people on his side
that can have this conversation that I just had with him.
Because I'm convinced this guy can go into history books
as the greatest synergist country's ever had.
I'm fully convinced.
DVD. I don't think he'll do it.
Since we've been talking the P's, DVD, P, prediction time, P, do you think he runs?
What party does he run with and does he have your vote?
Go ahead, fill with a P.
Like you think he runs?
I think he runs as an independent.
Okay.
I really want to see a debate
because I
Do believe that if he's doing exactly what Pat sang mm-hmm and just going all out
First of all the ratings would go through the room. Can you imagine his political commercials?
It would just be fucking amazing. So he has your vote. Oh man, depending on the policies.
Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. Depending on the policy. I'm a policy guy. You're a policy guy.
I don't I don't think 2024. I think if he's talking about it now, I mean, how many years did Trump
talk about it before he actually went 20 years? Maybe even longer. Yeah, you know, I think that
the fact that this is a 24,
look, this is a 25 hour gig. He likes to work out three hours a day. He's not going to be able to do
that. He's not going to be able to turn off from the world and get three hours of a workout in.
There's going to be a crisis every moment, very second. He's going to have people that are
constantly coming after him. He's like Pat said, very astutely, he's used to being liked right now.
And then he think the rock,
how do you think the rock is gonna handle,
you know, crazed activists running after him
in the bathroom with a cell phone camera?
How do you think that's about?
You don't think he's running?
I think he might run, get a taste of it,
and be like, what the, what was I thinking?
I had to create a Slack font, EarthWide.
What I do is.
I think the one person that can give him the best advice,
and if I'm part of a strategy team,
here's what I would be doing.
I think the best person that can give him the best advice
is Donald Trump, but he can't ask Trump.
He can't have a meeting with Trump.
Remember the video he did about Trump?
Where is he?
Here's what I mean by this.
I think somebody on his camp needs to,
who is connected with a shan
Hannity or is connected to a whoever that's going to
potentially do an interview with Trump and Trump's going to
take the interview has to ask the questions that rock really
wants to be asked. And here's the questions. The questions that
rock really needs a wants to be asked to say, going back, let
me ask you had a great life. Was it was it worth it to get the
last check on checklist, you know, done, which is what? You can forever
say you were billionaire, you party, you did this, you did that, TV show, 15 years, apprentice
and president. Was it worth getting the last check mark of being a president? I think
someone used to have that conversation and rock wants that conversation with Trump to
see if Trump will say it wasn't worth it or it was worth it.
Because that's the thing he has to ask himself.
I think he's going to run and I think he's going to run on the left.
I don't think he's going to run on the right.
What?
Does he have your vote?
No.
He does not.
Really?
No.
He runs as an independent.
I would consider his policies.
He runs on the left.
I think he's just been bought.
And, you know, China, the movies he's doing with China and how careful they are with
China and all that stuff.
You have to know where I'm at with China.
I mean, I don't need to remind you with him with China.
So I think if he takes a stand against China, I think if he takes a stand against both sides,
both sides, he says, look, both sides have come up to me and told me that I should run as
a Republican and I should run as a Democrat.
And I got to tell you, I just relate to both sides and I disagree with part of both sides.
I think I'm independent.
And if you get behind me, hey, let's make your work.
I think he could win as an independent.
But I'm telling you, 5% chance he does a 95% chance,
he won't do it, he runs us 11.
And I know you want to move on, Pepp.
What does that say on a deeper level?
What does that say about our political system,
the type of government that we have right now,
that somebody that we all agree would have a great chance
of winning, wouldn't want to put himself through
what it would take to win.
All it tells you is that,
does that mean that we're missing out on our great leaders
because those people are still up to not run?
Yeah, all it tells you is,
all it tells you is that he won your scared
and two, it's not a true statesman.
What's a statesman?
What's the difference between politician and a statesman?
Go to a statesman.
What's a statesman about?
What's a politician about?
They're wired in a different way.
It's not the same wiring.
Manchin is a statesman.
You know, some of the guys on the right
that disagree with Trump, they're statesmen.
You have to like Tucker going up there
and disagree with what Trump was doing.
How many times obviously seen Tucker interview Trump?
Why do you think?
I don't know, people realize this.
Trump is not a big fan of Tucker.
How many times have you seen Trump interview with Hannity?
I never watch it.
You know, and if I watch it,
I watch it because we're talking about on the podcast
because to Hannity's eyes,
Trump can't do no wrong.
So it's not, it's not, so I think true statesmen today
are tough to come by,
but if somebody truly wants to make history
instead of getting the check mark,
I think you got to study the greatest statesmen
in the history of America and see what they went through.
What was their formula?
How did they think?
Why did they do what they did?
It's a little bit more about what you were talking about
earlier on dying on the sword and all that stuff.
A true statesmen is country over your policies.
It's not policies, country over your policies. It's not policies.
Country over your politics.
Country over you'll be unliked.
And you don't find a lot of people like that to do.
Who would you even put as the top statesman in America today?
Today?
Today.
Who's up there?
You said Joe Manchin, he's on the list.
Is Bill Mar on that list?
Is Joe Rogan on the list?
Does it have to be a politician?
Who in politics is a true statement? A statesman.
Who is a synergist?
Who's not a divider?
Who do you actually put on that list today?
I know that you're a big fan of Tulsi Gavart.
Is she a true statesman, a stateswoman?
Who actually is on that list today?
Just an amish, Tom Massey.
I'd give it to Rand Paul.
Manchin, for sure.
Who's the guy from South Dakota?
Those are all people that...
South Dakota?
No, Wyoming, you're talking about China.
South Carolina.
Linsie Graham?
Not Linsie Graham.
No, no, no, no.
Tim Scott?
Maybe I'm not even saying the state right.
The guy that we had on, we, Jose interviewed him. Oh, you're like Trey Gowdy. Trey Gowdy. Yeah, they have a
he's a I think Trey Gowdy. Yeah, I think I think I think I think well who
that actually could win. How about that? Because none of those names are
going to win anything other than maybe mentioned something. Which one of
somebody that could win? Good win. Why could Tossi Gowdy not win? Okay, maybe she
could win, but she'd again again, Tulsi needs recognition.
So Tulsi needs recognition.
Tulsi needs a little bit, I feel Tulsi needs to do one more thing
to add to her fame and, you know, like, she needs a show,
she needs a something.
I don't know what it is.
Like, she needs something to go.
So this is the massive, this is the massive problem
with our system.
You are convinced AOC is going to be president of the United States one day, but I'm sitting
here and I'll, well, you can 20% so 20% chance. Do you give Tulsi Gabbard a 20% chance of
being president of the United States? I'll tell you right now. A veteran, a sitting senator
and an eloquent speaker. If it weren't public use owner and popularity contest. Yes, she's unfortunately
she's got way better than a she's got 1.1 million followers on Twitter unfortunately and
AOC has 13 million followers on Twitter. So now let me go back to 13 X 13 X so so Roger stone number one is what relevance
Constantly relevance. She's not gonna get relevance from mainstream media because they're not even going to give it to the spotlight. They're just not going to give it to
it. What's she going to hear? She needs to go, next time she's coming to Florida, she's coming
here. So you got what? She's going to go on Rogan, she's going to go on all this stuff, all these
things. She needs, she needs another pop. I think she needs another pop. Like, you know, a Trump
pulled from where? Trump pulled from billionaire, Trump pulled from wealthy people,
Trump pulled from apprentice,
Trump pulled from New York,
Trump pulled from all the after-party CD,
Trump pulled from golf,
Trump pulled from a lot of different places, right?
Sure.
Rock's gonna pull from wrestling,
Rock's gonna pull from Hollywood,
Rock's gonna pull from bodybuilding.
Like, I think she's not multi-dimensional enough today.
Okay. To pull. That's the only thing I'm thinking about.
And aside from that, somebody powerful needs to go
and back her up.
Somebody needs to back her up.
If that happens, she doesn't need the other part,
but somebody needs to do that.
And I just don't know if that's happened.
That's a very dangerous place to be, man,
because basically what you guys are saying then
is that the mainstream media, the media apparatuses
are the people who choose who has access and who doesn't, right?
AOC is on TV all the time because they put her on TV all the time.
Toasty Gabbard speaks just as much, just as many Instagram lives.
They never make it to late back.
What you're saying though.
So what I'm saying is that essentially what the people, there's a very small percentage
of unelected people that run corporate media that are giving people enough access to be have
a 20% chance as opposed to-
Is that even news?
But it's not news, but what it is is horrible.
What is is dangerous?
It is horrible.
Popularity contest, but it is horrible.
It is horrible.
It's not organic.
But I tell you what my problem with this is.
So I've had the last week
I've had calls we've been
Talking about potentially buying a big paper, okay, and we've been having calls and I've made the effort
We've called we we want to make an offer to them anyways
It's it's somebody everybody every one of you guys knows who this is. It's massive. You know who it is
And we've been going back and forth and they're playing the whole thing off
Well, we're not really
interested right now because we're doing so well on all this other stuff right and we're not really
interested in doing some like that right now because of ex-wisey okay the one newspaper
in America actually making money uh uh no so so anyways but the the point I'm making to you is
I'm doing this because it's a long term play okay the people who oppose what is happening with all the progressive policies
today in America, when is the last time they had an emergency meeting together that's a
three day meeting sitting now saying what the hell is your strategy? When's the last
time somebody spearheaded that to put a strategy in place? When? Because the left does it all
the time. When's the last time the right did it? When's the last time they got together and
they said, let's get the biggest media guy, let's get a Tossi in here, let's get a Rand in here,
let's get a Ron in here,
let's get all these guys in here, what do we need to do?
Let's talk about a strategy.
And somebody needs to be the strategy,
somebody needs to be the general manager,
to the head coach, how about we did this,
how about we did that?
If that doesn't happen,
all this other stuff is just a bunch of lip service.
So you have to fight against mainstream media,
they're not going away, you gotta play your game.
You gotta Forbes Magazine that sells to China for 95%.
What are you doing?
Like how do you let a magazine like that go away?
Fortune is now left.
Money is now left.
Inc is now left.
Forbes is now left.
What the hell are you doing?
Capitalism is about to be gone.
So only these small opportunities
that keep going away.
Capitalists should buy all these magazines
to keep this concept of capitalism going.
Now, you're hearing socialism's not a bad approach
in Forbes magazine, you tell me how that makes any sense.
It's like, I ran selling her paper
and all of a sudden they're talking about
socialism's a good idea.
Doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, it's a really important.
So article in Forbes?
Yeah, so they're talking about that?
Yeah, Forbes?
So the point is, these things are happening,
and there's not a strategy to fight against
what Gerard is talking about.
If you're not gonna have a strategy in place,
I'm sorry, you deserve to get your ass handed to you.
I can't tell you that there's so many people
that feel helpless in the moment,
specifically because of what you just said,
that they feel like, what's even the point?
This is an unwinnable battle, I just called you a loser. I know what you're saying, right? I know what you're saying. I know what you just said that they they feel like what's even the point that this is an
Unwinnable battle like this culture was not I know what you're saying, but they there's like there's you're right
There's not that guy saying listen if you disagree this is what you got to do do this this this and this do that like
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more man. I could not agree with you
Even if you're saying if the right did have a strategy
And I'm
not even being sarcastic, would it even matter because Trump owns that part? No, of course
it would matter. By the way, that's part of a strategy though. You have to know he is
in the strategy. So somebody has to go and have a combo with him to talk to him. That's
part of the strategy. I was going to speak to him and will he listen to anybody? The right
person can. Who?
Who's Trump listening to?
Ever the right person is can.
And let's define the right person is the right person.
Let's define the right person.
Let's define the right person.
Say what?
It's anybody to write a right person.
What matters more to you?
Country or your brand?
Country.
No, no, no, not to you.
To Trump.
Somebody needs to have a conversation with him.
That's actually a legitimate question.
What matters more to your country or your name?
That's the question for Jordan's answer. I'd love to see country or your name? That's the question for George.
I'd love to see here his answer,
because a follow-up question after that is what?
Here's what's a follow-up question.
So yes, the question I present, Donald J. Trump,
what's more important to you?
Your last name and your legacy or your country?
What do you think he's gonna answer?
What do you think he's gonna answer?
I think he's gonna say everything that he's built,
his legacy, his brand. I think he's gonna say his country. I think they're intertwined, yeah. I think he's gonna answer? I think he's gonna say everything that he's built his legacy his brand I think he's gonna say his country. I think they're intertwined. Yeah, yeah, I think he's gonna say his country
Then the follow-up question is what perfect
So if the people in the party you're representing no longer think you're the person to help save the country
Are you okay voting for somebody that can't get the job them to save the country care so much about?
That's a great hypothetical, but he owns that party the party wants him i don't
but what i'm if you see the latest results what i'm trying to tell you is so
what's the alternative you don't have that meeting you don't have that
sit on you don't have that conversation you don't have that strategy session
the rice gonna constantly sit on the sidelines and say we can do nothing about it
oh shucks eight more years oh it's you know if he is the
so what are you saying that if he shouldn't run that
hey, you're going to we need to be a chair leader for a pencil chair leader for somebody else
or somebody who knows how to deal with big egos, who has no aspirations to run needs to
get into mix and have those conversations behind closed doors. And nobody needs to know
about those conversations.
Somebody who is like a qualified guy
who can go have those conversations.
It's talking George Soros.
I hear you loud and clear.
I think he's had, quote unquote,
adults in the room, whether that's general Mattis
or general Kelly or whether that's,
I don't think Mattis is the guy though.
Okay, whoever it is, but we know what kind of a personality is.
For five years, we haven't identified the guy.
For five years, we've been saying,
well, somebody needs to talk to Trump
and talk a little sense to him.
And the only name that has come up,
that people are like, okay, maybe he'll listen, Izzy Ivanka.
And I'm pretty sure she and Jared Kushner
are done with politics.
They're having a nice little life down in South Beach,
building a house.
They're not, you think Kushner is going back into the White House? There's no way they're done with politics. No, having a nice little life down in South Beach, building a house. They're not, you think Kushner is going back into the White House?
There's no way they're done with politics.
No, I don't know about that.
They're no way they're done with politics.
Other than her, who else is he actually listening?
Is it a legitimate question?
To think a person like that doesn't exist
is a form of giving up.
To think a person like that doesn't exist,
as a form of saying, there's nothing I can do,
but I feel helpless.
Bullshit, I don't come from the helpless community.
To think that there's nothing we can do but I feel helpless. Bullshit. I don't come from the helpless community. To think that there's nothing we can do about
it. No. The conversation and the approach matters. If you don't know how to approach somebody
based on what their personality, the right way, you're not going to get results. It's all
in the approach. So if you're going to say, matter style, what the hell are you talking to
me like this? It's got to be the gotta be the right person? Would zero threat?
Would zero, everything is safe, protect it, all of that.
Just to have that conversation.
With the agenda of America first.
And those are his words, but essentially it comes down
to like what we were talking about,
I believe a couple months ago with Pat,
Pat saying like on Twitter he was changing this handle
to a synergist.
I think that person needs to rise up and actually have that conversation for that to even
come into fruition.
And we obviously don't know who that is.
I think it would be a hell of a fight.
And I think to make that conversation is what I'm trying to understand.
I'm not a politician.
I have no freaking clue.
I haven't met Trump nor do I understand his persona.
We only know so much, right?
But we do know this.
You didn't win.
At the end of the day, you didn't win.
And you gotta be able to figure out a new strategy
and recognize, I mean, look, like I think we all can agree
like during those debates, there were certain points
and time where it's like, even if I was rooting for you,
like, man, that wasn't smart.
You have to look at game film.
And you have to be honest about it.
You have to raise your hand and say,
yeah, that wasn't smart.
And I think if we're talking about vulnerability,
I think we live in a world where people
don't want to raise their hand and say, yeah, I fucked up.
And I shouldn't have said that.
But this is what I was really trying to convey
that maybe other people listen. And again, it's not about pulling people from the 42% or the 44% is that, you
know, 10 to 12%. Right. Do you want to talk about that Frank Lund story? Yeah, I'm going
to that right away. It's funny. You just said that. So Frank Lunds, if you want to go to
page six, Donald Trump will never be president again, says renowned, poster Frank Lunds. This
is a Sydney morning, Geralt, one of the world's top posters, Frank Lons,
who has advised multiple Republican presidents, says Donald Trump will never, never, again,
lead the United States. He will not win. If Trump wins again, he will be nominated by the Republicans,
but he will never be elected president because there are too many people who hate him is what he says.
And he continues saying Trump is the most popular Republican by far, but he can't win a general
election because in the end politics is about persona as much as it is about policy and
his persona is unacceptable to too many people.
Once has worked as a strategist and poster for the Republican Party for almost 30 years
and is regarded as one of the world's most insensitive commentators.
So you obviously agree with that, right?
You don't think he'll ever win. I think number one, this guy, do you know who Frank Lunses, you want to pull him up?
You've seen his face before. He, this is what he does. And he's, he works for the Republican Party.
I want to say, he might say he's independent, but this is what he does. I think it's a case of
if it were Trump versus Biden again, and again, I don't even
think Biden should run in four years. It's almost like unacceptable versus unaware. There's
40, 60% of the country that thinks Trump is unacceptable. I do not accept him. There's
a large contingency in the country that thinks Biden is just completely helpless and unaware. So this goes back to my initial point of
Are these our two best options? Is this really where we're at right now?
Can we get a Tulsi Gabbard in there? Can we get a Dacantus in there?
Can we get a rock in there? Is this really where we're at that we're deciding again between Donald Trump
unacceptable versus Biden unaware?
So I'm saying that's the sad. And that's just sad.
And the climate is perfect for the rock
to one as an independent.
I agree.
If it's Biden Trump on the left and the right
and then you got rock coming up the middle,
I would vote for rock in a heartbeat,
regardless of policy.
Because what we've established is that a lot of it
is just persona anyway.
So therefore it's policy versus persona in this scenario where you just explained it perfect.
I mean, you may not have the policies initially as far as like the rock is concerned, but
he has the persona that oversees it's like and people did not vote for Trump enough because
not because of the policies, it was because of the persona.
Agreed.
So, you know know I Got nothing
2015 I heard the same crap leading up the Hillary was gonna win in a landslide and listen
I didn't vote for Trump in
16 right and but all I heard everywhere was this guy's got no chance the polls are he's down by 9%
He's down by 12% there's only three months to go,
but there was something in the eye test
that everywhere I looked, I didn't see a single Hillary
law on sign, I didn't see a single Hillary banner.
I just saw Trump everywhere, I was like, this is odd.
Something about what I'm seeing day-to-day,
driving around is different than what I'm hearing
on the news.
And every poll started in the world,
it came out and said, afterwards, right, 538,
we need to readjust our polls.
We didn't take this into account,
we didn't take that into account. And then people want to act like he got smoked in this last election, hewords, right, 538, we need to readjust our polls. We didn't take this into account. We didn't take that into account.
And then people want to act like he got smoked in this last election.
He got more votes.
He's the first president in the history of the United States to get more votes in his
reelection campaign and lose.
Do you feel that more people now are realizing that policies are important?
Yeah.
Because of what is currently going on in the world.
I think it's a certain degree that's a good point, Phil.
I also think that I don't want him to run
because he activates the other side too much.
I think DeSantis or somebody else,
they don't have the vitriol that's gonna activate
that extra five, six percent.
I think Trump is gonna activate people
that right now are completely disenfranchised,
that are frankly embarrassed that they supported by it.
I know a lot of people that are embarrassed that they they were like, you know what, man,
orange man bad, but maybe it wasn't this bad, right? So I believe you don't know me.
I will say that you do bring up a couple of valid points and we you've been
addressed this on Rogan. I don't think that many people were voting because they loved Biden.
It's because Trump was that unacceptable
and you said the actual.
You subbed it to the other side.
If that many people voted.
And that, well,
people voted against Trump not for Biden.
But you said in 20s,
the difference between 2016 and 2020
is that he was an unproven commodity at that point.
I don't know, this guy Donald Trump,
he's kind of in there, I don't know.
He's crazy, he's doing some things.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
You know, he'll shake up Washington
by 2020 people knew exactly what they were getting
and they're like, I've seen this movie before.
He's coming to the well-known.
I know how this ends.
I do not want to see the same movie
for the fifth frickin' time.
I'm good.
Let's see a new movie.
Even if the new movie sucks,
I've seen that movie too many times.
I know how it ends.
So the pendulum now is on policy, probably no matter what.
I mean, I've chatted with a lot of different people.
Black, white, everything.
And they've all said that policy is more important
because of the current economic climate.
And I think you take the name plates off of candidates.
Yeah.
I think we're gonna realize that we live in the world where,
man, this person has a great great persona but these policies are great.
However, yeah, with shows with social media and all that stuff, you got to have
both brother. You got to tell you something. What percentage of Americans actually
vote based on policy and policy alone? But when you're looking at 20%
So what are the points right now? Well, when you say policy that's let's just
define most most voters vote on one issue issue single issue voters make up over 70% votes so there's no and
it's not even a surley policy whatever benefits them right it's it's it's it's it's that's fine
issue is what benefits them yeah no it is but caye go ahead you were trying to say something
caye we can't hear you okay now for me a big thing as well is we talked about with Trump.
If the market wouldn't have crashed, what are the odds that he would have been reelected?
Now can they sustain that and push that out for another two years?
If the market crashes, what are the odds Biden can get elected?
You're talking about COVID, not in market crash.
No, market crash.
No, the market crash was due to COVID, it's what you're saying.
Yeah, exactly.
What I'm saying is also that the fact that that's now bounced back in 13 months seems to
be a little bit propagated and not fully full market.
Let me go into the Goldman Sachs story and what's going on at the port of LA story.
I think that kind of has to do with what you're talking about.
So Goldman Sachs gets even gloomier on the US economy, CNN.
Goldman Sachs is becoming increasingly pessimistic about the US economy as coronavirus support
from the government phases out and consumer spending remains on an uncertain path. Over the weekend,
the Wall Street bank downgraded its forecast for America's economic growth, which is closely
monitored by the investment community, Goldman Sachs now expects the economy to expand 5.6
percent this year compared to a previous 5.7 percent estimate in 2022, 5.7% in 2022, growth is projected to expand 4%
down from 4.4.
It is a second time Goldman Sachs has revised
its 2021 forecast lower in two months.
Goldman Sachs also think spending could decline
as people could continue to work from home,
encouraging them to prepare their own lunches
instead of popping into a local restaurant.
So that's Goldman. Okay. That's what Goldman, your laugh and you have a comment? You have thoughts?
Yeah, I just, it's so obvious this. And even it's coming from CNN, but this is, this is how media works. The headline.
Like, if you actually look at the numbers, you want to talk for Sony versus policy.
Goldman Sachs predicts an even gloomier look on the outcome.
Goldman Sachs has predicted 5.6 down from 5.7.
Oh my God, 0.1%.
I agree, it's not a big number one.
What are we talking about here?
It's a question to them.
Your point would make sense if it said Fox News instead of CNN.
Why CNN telling this story?
Headlines.
Again, I'm not even worried about CNN.
I don't agree.
5.7 was gloomy down from the 6.2.
So that's 5.6. 6.2. Yeah, so this is 4.4% to 4%. That's 10%. That's a real number. So that
parts are real numbers. Like 11% you're talking about what a number like that. So look, they're not
optimistic about the economy. So what happens if the economy takes a hit the next 12, 18, 24 months?
Does mid years take a massive hit for the left?
Midterms.
Midterms.
Oh, I don't think there,
I give the probably 80% chance Republicans
take control of the house or win the midterms for sure.
I mean, that's not even the current climate.
That's just politics in general.
The party that's not in power takes over them in the midterms.
I mean, you probably have a very clear example of this, but I think Republicans will take
over in the midterms.
Yeah.
Well, look, man, who knows?
There's so much red line and there's so much gerrymandering that there's so much happening
behind the scenes that I don't want wanna get to in depth on people,
but I mean, look, we talk about,
we talk about the, what was the recall election in California,
we talked about that a lot, right?
Something that we didn't really discuss in depth
was the demographics of the voters in that, right?
25%, 25%, a full quarter of the voters
were from citizens, naturalized citizens,
born outside the country.
So what's happening at the southern border, what's happening across red states, what's
happening in these environments that people are leaving, right?
To like, where are your swing states?
Where are your swing states?
Where are your swing demographics?
There's nobody regardless of anything or any policies,
anything that the Biden administration can do.
There's no Republican or libertarian or independent
that's ever gonna win.
Really ever again, probably in my lifetime in New Jersey
and New York and Michigan.
And I mean, they've gotten, maybe Michigan.
It's gonna be very, very difficult.
But why is that? What's the cause of that?
Because at the end of the day, everyone gets one vote.
Political strategy. So one of the reasons, everyone gets one vote. Political strategy.
So, one of the reasons, again, these people are not stupid, right?
The people running these places are not stupid.
Phil Murphy, let's just use Jersey, for an example.
This guy, this guy, yeah, no.
Don't say that name, Gerard.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
He knows that people are leaving his state.
All right.
He knows five years in a row.
New Jersey has left, has led the nation and people leaving his state. All right. He knows five years in a row. New Jersey has left, has, has led the nation and people leaving his state. This literally his population is telling him,
I would rather live anywhere else but with you. That should be in, in a normal governing
environment. That should be a massive red flag that our policies aren't working. Instead,
the policies are working to their end where they have nothing but their voters left. So
in these places, a lot of precedent that we had before, people couldn't pick up and leave
with an Oregon trail times,
you know, just because they didn't like Herbert Humphrey,
they weren't hopping on a, you know, horse and buggy
and high-tailing a 3,000 miles south.
Now you can.
So a lot of what's happening now in politics,
a lot of what's happening behind the scenes,
you can't look at past analytics,
they're not predictive at this point, right?
The Democratic Party specifically has done two things. They are a big at this point, right? The Democratic party specifically
has done two things. They are a big tent party. They are the party of yes and juxtaposed themselves
against Republicans, which are the party of no. Okay, where do you think you want? Yes, absolutely.
75 genders, of course there are. They got it. They got it. They got it. They got it. They got it.
It's on the brakes. They got it. Yeah, they're the party of yes. Okay. And what they do is once they
have control, they squeeze out all opposition.
Small business, get the F out.
Don't want you.
You small business owners, you guys are gone.
You guys are our opposition.
Independent voters, gone.
Get out of here.
I want a constituency of nothing but union members,
teachers, cops, that's it.
All right, I want there to be three shops.
I want Amazon in every freaking corner.
That's their strategy. I think small business owners got to stop bitching is what they got to do. They there to be three shops. I want Amazon and every freaking corner. That's their strategy.
I think small business owners got to stop bitching
is what they got to do.
They got to figure it out.
I think small business owners,
if they can't pay the minimum wage,
they got to pay them higher.
Hey man, you got to compete.
I think you guys.
I'm okay.
So I have to get in touch with them.
Let me go to the market.
Let me go to, let me go to,
let me go to the market.
Sorry for your taco shop, bro. Let me go to. I think better tacos. Let me go to this. Let me go to this Let me go to let me go to let me go to your taco shop, bro
Let me go to this let me go to this part where we're talking about Biden Yeah, and I know you're big on approval ratings to use to always bring it up
So how Biden's slumping approval rating stacks up against past presidents. This is a fortune story
Joe Biden entered a White House writing a wave of popularity his day one approval rating was 53%
Was well above outgoing president Donald Trump's 38.7%
approval rating.
But the honeymoon phase is over.
As of Thursday, Biden's approval rating stands at 44.2% at the same point in the first
term.
President Ronald Reagan was at 556.
Bush was at 676.
Clinton was at 50.2. George W. Bush was at 82.9. Barack Obama was at 52.3.
All much higher approval ratings. Meanwhile, Biden's current rating is a bit higher than Trump's
38.1 rating was on day 261 in office. So far, Biden's slipping approval rating has yet to give Republicans a big
to any 22 midterm edge in the past four midterms elections. The president's political party
lost congressional seats. So, I mean, this is kind of telling you what's going to happen,
what's not going to happen. If it continues going this way, I think a big part of this
has to do with the economy and these, these ships, these ships are big and people think
it is. These ships is not like, yeah, this is not like a small thing we're talking about here
with these ships.
If you go to page three on what's going on at LA,
the Port of Los Angeles will launch 24 seven operations
to tackle the huge line of ships waiting to dock
the White House sets inside our story.
The Port of LA started to process ships 24 hours a day,
seven days a week to help ease a massive backlog.
The White House said Wednesday the new hours would most almost double the number of hours
during the which cargo can be moved.
It said the shipping industry is currently in chaos, which ports in Southern California
had especially hard at the port of LA alone ships current carrying nearly 500,000 shipping
containers.
Containers by the way, each one of them are right now.
What's the number?
She said 40 grand a pop, 500,000 containers at 40k a pop,
or about 12 million metric tons of goods
were waiting in drift areas at an anchor
on October 5th for spots to open up so that they could dock
and unload.
On Tuesday, there were 80 ships at anchor or drift
area and 64 at births across both the ports of LA and Long Beach, the normal number of
container ships at anchors between zero and one. Yesterday, Sacky was being asked if things
are not going to be delivered by Christmas. And they promised this will never happen.
This will never happen and she changed her position. So, well, there's nothing we can
do about this. People are just gonna have to accept that.
You're not gonna have to have this. Right. So can you imagine like, hey you
order a kid. If you want to get kids for your kids you got to get them now.
Because if you wait to be 17, you are not. It's gonna be January 17th. You're
gonna get the gifts to give to your kids. So this is a big deal. This is a big deal.
My mind is actually working cargo services for a company called CLAN, CSX
lines, horizon lines that it now has been acquired by Matt's in. And she worked
with the Longshoreman Wednesday nights, Friday nights just to make sure that she would
watch, physically see with the Longshoreman the last container to be on that ship. And
I've been to Panama. I got to see the canal, understand that. The money that is probably being,
people who own the ports have to charge these people for the ship not leaving.
So there's a cost in that as well that is going to be driven to the consumer eventually.
And it's not going to look good for people at all.
At all. Those shipyards that were not,
they're making the money right now,
but I don't know how that's being dispersed.
But typically when someone charges one individual,
it always gets hit with us.
And then you got people in government that say,
oh yeah, you're not gonna be able to get stuff.
It's like, man, it's beyond that.
You talk about medical supplies,
you talk about a lot of different things.
And the future does not look right
until they get a handle on this thing
Yeah, that said something earlier man. I thought I love this line. You said I I don't come from the hopeless community
I don't come from the helpless community. It's a great line
And you got Jen Sackie up there who has all the access the power of the United States government could declare a state of emergency
They're gonna fire all the nurses and the doctors and they're not worried about that because we're gonna replace them with the National Guard.
Well the National Guard can unload trucks. The National Guard can unload ships.
Don't give me this. People are just gonna have to accept Christmas is canceled
this year. No, unload the ships. Who said Christmas is canceled?
Gensac, yeah, I'm being hyperpolic. But that was a conversation because
a lot of these bigger corporations are saying, listen,
some of the stuff may not make it to the stores.
You have to be prepared for it.
Some of the stuff is going to be a big delay on that.
This is not like a hypothetical.
These effects, every...
This is business.
Yeah, this is affecting everybody.
So this is the part where...
Did you hear to wait 500,000 containers, which is how many tons did it say?
What was the tons?
It was 1.5... 1. 1.5 million metric tons of goods.
12 million metric tons of goods.
So businesses want to sell.
I had a guy that I was the guy,
the guy that we had on Elite Mastermind.
He says, I sell cigarette lighters,
but he buys quarter million of them.
And these cigarette lighters have team logos on there,
lakers, bowls, whatever, right?
And he what he does.
He says, my 250,000 lighters have already been sold,
but my customers are asking for the money back
because it's been 90 days
because it's sitting on a ship and I can't take it off.
This is not a millionaire, he does $400,000 a year.
And he nets like 120,000.
So it's not like he's a guy making a lot of money.
He has no control over that.
What does he do?
This is affecting a lot of small business owners.
And normally you would have to be like
in the suburbant business, it's kind of the same thing.
You have distributors, and a lot of the time,
if you're good, those same distributors sell to those stores.
So therefore, by the time the ship actually hits the port of that destination, everything
is already sold, you know, like everybody makes their money. But in this case, like you
just said, I mean, this guy now has to have to pay back if he even does. And this is
going to cripple his business. I literally just did this. I got the custom chucks, man.
And I ordered two more of them. And it's been six weeks. I just put in I like last two and they're not answering my emails
They're not putting in the refund request the ship the my chucks are probably sitting on a ship the ship in the port of L
That is crazy. You can't even pay you can't wait. I should one of those one ship
Okay, one ship can put 1100 Boeing 747 planes on there
What?
What what this means is
you can get it.
You can get it.
You can get it.
You can get it.
You can get it.
You can get it.
You can get it.
Oh my gosh.
It would take 35, 8,000 foot long trains.
It would take 11,400 heavy trucks.
These ships are big.
Oh my gosh.
I think I remember.
Kai, look this up because I don't want to get this wrong.
Wow. But each transcontinental trip that they take from China, let's say to the
West Coast, I think it's the equivalent in carbon emissions of like a million cars, each
of these boats. I could be wrong because I know that sounds crazy. They burn, they burn
worse fuel, they burn diesel, they burn like the crappiest fuel because they can do the national
law. And they're just, they sitting but out there just burning this stuff
up the yeah still the most efficient way to move it like there's no
way to do about it we haven't figured out a better way well there's nothing we
can do look at not a shipping expert over here but what's the root cause of this
what's the supply chain issue these trade policies are these is this
COVID that's getting in the mid, like why is this all happening?
One of the things that they're saying is people are not showing
up to employees.
COVID has come down to a lot.
It's what we're talking on the land.
People are not showing up to come and do the work.
But it's a backlog, even though people are showing up now,
it's a backlog of six months of people not showing up.
So this is a systematic of what happened during COVID,
unemployment, people sitting at home, people not showing up to work, people not sure. So this is a systematic of what happened during COVID, unemployment, people sitting at home,
people not showing up to work, people not moving things.
Okay, this is building back there baby.
As people get back to work, this can get rectified soon.
Is there end inside here?
What's the, what's the,
give me a silver lining here.
Since we're not helpless or hopeless.
Go ahead, Kai.
Yes and no, obviously if you're,
if you're trying,
not in the short term is what I'm going to. Yeah, if you're, if you're trying, not into short term is what I would have.
Yeah. If you're, if you're putting in the same amount of 40 hours of week,
but you're trying to catch up on six months of backlog,
then obviously it's going to take a long time to speed that up.
So unless you're filling up to try to catch up,
it's going to be a long time.
And at that point,
we might as almost try to trash it.
Because who knows what the goods of how long their shelf life is.
There's perishable goods.
No, you,
these like your you're taking in additional shipping costs.
Now you're gonna pay over time to the long show.
I mean, almost all are you.
Think about the perishable goods.
So if you have a product like,
I'm gonna always gonna go back to sports nutrition,
from manufacturing data's two years.
So you got six months or whatever.
I mean, it's gonna take maybe a couple months,
just to have it arrive.
So you lost two months there, do the math.
These guys, the minute the protein gets there or whatever,
how does that person sell it?
Because the person that's buying is gonna be like,
oh, this expires in like six months,
do you like the logistics too?
My buddy's in logistics,
an ex pro ball player and like,
name's Janssen.
Great dude. So he does trucking logistics. Yeah, he, somehow, I don't know it exactly, logistics, an ex pro ball player and like names Janssen. That's what he said.
Great dude.
So he does trucking logistics.
Yeah.
He somehow, I don't know it exactly, but he matches up trains to trucks.
And it's a bidding war right now.
There's so few, there's so few truckers and everybody is trying to force their products
out on overnight delivery because they're running up against their delivery dates.
There's a certain amount of shelf life that they have to be on.
So they're charging like $10, $20,000 for a single ride up from like Jacksonville to like
Charlotte, man, like it's insane.
You know how inflation sometimes is so complicated?
This is very simple inflation.
Because the cost is getting passed down to who?
To the business owner.
And the business owner is like, I can't sell this thing for seven bucks.
I got to make it $8.99.
I got to make it $9.99.
I can't do nothing about that.
So these are the things that is not even linked to printing money.
These are the things that sometimes you just don't have a choice.
The small business world is right now in shambles.
It's right here, man.
Yeah, it's a whole bunch of fruit and dirt.
Right, it's a russer in companies that work in sports nutrition
that actually will say, I have the money to ship it by air
because it needs to be climate controlled.
But damn, everybody can't do that.
So I mean, it's a really interesting thing because it's going back to our administration.
Whenever it comes down to restricting the rights of individuals,
they can't wait to jump.
They cannot wait to jump.
But anytime you need to do the other side of the pendulum and help people and like, hey,
let's have a solution that doesn't increase my power.
They have absolutely no ideas on how to do it.
Hey, how do we shut down a city?
I got 15 ideas on how we're going to do it.
Everybody's going to wear masks.
Now all these businesses that have been
been open for six months, they gotta go outside.
Build a tent outside because as long as they're inside
outside, it's okay.
They've got all these ideas.
But when it comes to actually being progressive
and pragmatic, they got nothing.
Bupkiss.
What if it is a sorry Christmas is canceled?
What do you mean?
Unload the ships.
It's unload the ships.
Come on.
Very innovative when it favors you. no innovation when it does in favor.
That's a great point.
By the way, when you do things like this, long term states are going to take a hit.
Tesla will move its headquarters to Texas.
Elon Musk says this is a CNN story.
I'm excited to announce that we're moving our headquarters to Austin, Texas, says Elon
Musk at a shareholder meeting.
The electric car company is currently based in Palo Alto, California.
He cited housing affordability and the long commutes that can create as hurdles for its
current location and said the Austin factory is five minutes away from the airport and
fifty minutes from downtown.
The median home prices in Palo Alto is three point three million dollars.
Whereas the median home prices in Austin is five eighty eight.
Let me say that one more time. The median home prices is $3.3 million to 588,
despite the move Musk said Tesla plans to continue
to significantly expand in California.
I think the last comment was made to say,
don't hurt me yet till I fully leave your state
and show him the policy of a comment.
So how many more stories like this is gonna happen?
Because California, you guys heard what California is doing.
There's some very weird stories.
It's almost unbelievable.
Like when I read it, I thought Tom Ellsworth
was sending me another one of his,
you know, I was the last time you were on the Austin.
But two weeks ago.
You were there.
Yeah, I was there two weeks ago as well.
I have a point.
I have a point. Obviously, it was very awkward weeks ago as well. I have a point I have a point I obviously
Very awkward the way he did it. Well, I have something to say
I have the grab the grab the box of cookies. Where we have grab the box
San Francisco San Jose silicone Valley
Palo Alto silicone silicone silicone
Crazy crazy expensive. I get Valley. I know, I know. Crazy, crazy expensive.
I get it, I get it.
Austin, you can quote me on this.
They're gonna be dealing with the same issues
they're dealing with California pretty soon.
Affordability, homelessness, and traffic.
That's all I experience in Austin.
I'm like, I'm ready to have a good time in Austin.
Yeah, yeah.
Traffic galore, things are expensive.
Homeless galore. Okay, so, traffic galore, things are expensive, homeless galore.
Yeah.
Okay. So just be careful what you wish for Elon Musk and people in Texas because California's
coming for a whole college teammates Sean Finnegan left Jersey for Austin, Texas about
10 years ago and he was a real estate agent who's made money like through the roof, man,
doing mortgages in real estate.
And he said, now it's like, it's, it's nuts.
It's insane.
They never thought to build another road.
The infrastructure is still like 20 years old,
but now they're just building on top of each other.
Like it's, to keep Austin weird is, it's,
now it's like, please move out of Austin.
The people there, the Nancy, our graphic designer said,
I want you to play a game while you're in Austin.
Homeless or,
hipster,
and I couldn't tell the difference after time.
I'm like, that guy's clearly a hip now he's homeless.
I've got to tell you.
I probably know that I'm a millionaire.
So what?
Same thing.
Homeless or hipster?
The lady I got my condo from thought she got one over on me,
man.
She was like, you're gonna pay this for that.
And I'm paying, I'll pay $100 more.
$100 more a month.
I had a 700 square foot loft on a Hudson River in Jersey City.
I pay $100 more for a two bedroom, $2,500 square foot,
two bedroom, two bath condo here in Palm Pond.
I'm on the beach.
I'm on the beach.
And I have it.
I have it stepped over.
One whole second.
I have it.
I have it.
I have it.
I have it.
I have it.
I have it.
I have it stepped over. One whole second. I have it. I have it. I have it. Your friends in New Jersey Florida's not good They don't need to come here. Don't investigate for yourself. There's nothing good going on
I have Florida stay in New Jersey. I want $100 more for a two-bedroom as opposed to a lot
You know Denver is the same way like to be honest
I used to live downtown and at one point I was like
Man, there's a lot of homelessness and then Shrine I go down there like no these are hipsters
So almost like you say don't they're home? You definitely don't know the difference.
Guys, are you okay if we give a shout out to Governor Newsom?
Can we give a shout out to him?
Let me read a story.
It's a very important story because Governor Newsom
is so concerned about what's going on in the state.
This is a Reuter story.
This is not an onion.
This is a Reuter story.
California law prohibits secretly removing condoms
during sex.
Adam, this is Newsom.
Guy, this is a true story.
Reuters.
We're really talking about that.
Newsom signed a law.
Look how hard he's working.
You got to respect this guy.
Hard for.
He signed into law bill on Thursday that prohibits
stealthing or removing condom during sex
without consent, making it a civil sexual battery offense.
It is the first anti-stalthing law in the country.
I have been working on the issue for stealthing since 2017.
And I'm related, guys, let me wrap this up.
I am related that there is now some accountability for those who perpetrate the act sexual assaults,
especially those on women of color are perpetually swept under the rug.
Assemblywoman Christina Garcia, the bill sponsor, said in a statement,
people found guilty of removing condom without consent could be liable for
general special and punitive damage damages the law state so by the way
this is great that they're doing this to protect the one because you we've all
heard these stories and and i was in a military so you get stories like this
but
all the fire that's taking place in california is anybody concerned about that
all the all the homelessness that's taking place in California is anybody concerned about that? All the homelessness that's taking,
so this is what he's concerned.
Talk about sequencing and having priorities in place.
Why?
I demand he does something about the lack
of gender neutral toys.
I mean, that's just that's been...
Well, listen, that's not stopped there
because this man is on a roll,
so if you wanna go there,
California demands gender neutral toys.
Oh, that's true.
This place at big stores.
And by the way, this is a CBS news store.
Pull up the story, because people probably don't believe these stories.
We've done it.
He's taking all these leads.
He's your governor.
We've created the party.
It's over, guys.
California, we've done it.
The first state to say large department stores must display products like toys and toothbrushes
in general neutral ways, a way for LGBT advocates
who say the pink and blue hues of traditional marketing methods,
pressure children to conform to gender stereotypes.
The new law signed by Democratic governor Newsom on Saturday
does not outlaw traditional boys and girls sections
at department stores.
Instead, it says large stores must also have
a general neutral section in display.
A reasonable selection of items regardless
of whether they have been traditional marketed for girls or boys, the law only applies to
toys, iron children's child care items.
So there you have it.
I mean, this is just fascinating.
Go up again to make sure we know this is a, yeah, this NBC also covers it.
California law requires gender neutral areas and same stores, some stores.
That felon doesn't have her mask covering her nose.
Well, the toys even arrive on time.
What are we tripping about, anything?
Are they gonna arrive?
I don't think this is any more.
Well, play, yeah.
You don't get a gender neutral Christmas.
That's a good time.
Good time, comedian.
That's right.
Well, they even arrive on time.
This podcast live would be ahead. I just, I'll do saying it. I'm just saying it. right. Well, they even arrive on this podcast live would be ahead
I just I'll do saying it. I'm just so so California. What's going on there? I don't know your people
It's my beautiful
You you raised there you you would you spend a lot of time there would you be open to the idea of moving to California?
I'm good and in this horrible state called Florida don't move here
Renser way more tell people five reasons reasons why they shouldn't move to Florida.
Give them five reasons why they shouldn't move to Florida.
It's so hot all year round.
It's crazy.
There's tons of assholes that come here
from New Jersey, Wank Wank.
Oh, the Gators.
And the Alligators everywhere.
I have to people in the office quit
because they got bit by an alligator.
It's insane.
It's insane.
The flooding talk about the flooding. Yeah, you don't want an alligator. It's insane. It's insane. The flooding.
The flooding.
Yeah, you don't want to be in Florida right now.
By the way, on a serious note, though, I've driven all across the country.
I got to take it this morning.
I got to take it this morning.
The cop was not going to take it.
Shocker.
I know.
I'm just a public announcement.
I got my 200 ticket in my laptop.
Hey guys, not breaking news.
Pack it on the traffic ticket.
Where were you going? 170 and a thing breaking news, packing on a traffic ticket. Where were you going?
170 and a thing.
Anyways, it's a terrible ticket,
but I got a ticket this morning
and we have to now work on this with my ticket.
But anyways, so it won't end about Florida,
I gotta give credit to the worst drivers I've ever expected.
I've been cut off so.
Like a girl cut me off yesterday.
I'm not even kidding with you.
I'm just, she's like this. this. I've never seen this in my life
I'm just looking at her and she's like a polish. I'm like I accept the apology, but this is seriously weird
I've never seen and today this morning a guy cuts up. It's five lane federal. I'm coming up from the furthest lane to the right
To the left turn. He just straight up goes like this and play. I mean, so the credit goes to,
they're either NASCAR drivers get trained here,
Formula One drivers, or they just suck when you're in the car.
Do you know the reasons why?
Tell us about it.
We've got retirees galore.
There's 80 year olds out there.
All these three were under 40 years old.
Now I don't accept that.
You have a lot of tourists that are just kind of like,
you have a lot of immigrants, a lot of Latinos,
especially coming from...
No, people just don't know how to say it.
That's not the way.
By the way, FYI, Latinos are some of the best drivers
because you have to learn how to drive without loss
and light another step.
That's true.
They're the big, I don't know why more Latino drivers
win the NASCAR.
I don't understand why they don't.
There's gotta be a recruitment,
you gotta go to like a, you gotta go,
somebody's gotta go to TJ.
Cause they don't let low riders and ask our path
Second car I ever bought was a low rider Chevy S10 long bed gold low profile wheels
140 something spokes
System I bought it bro. I bought it from a Mara Salvatrucha member.
And my dad says this guy here, he's an artist.
You'd love this truck.
You should come see this artist.
I go meet the artist.
I said, why is he an artist?
He had tattoos everywhere.
And he says, MS-13, I said that.
This guy's with Mara Salvatrucha.
I said, well, I love the truck.
We did a deal.
I bought the truck.
A week later in Hollywood, I got arrested.
Helicopters follow me because they thought I was him.
I'm like, I'm not part of MS-13.
I'm Patrick Medevi.
He says, no, you're with MS-13.
I said, fine proof I'm with MS-13.
It took us like three o'clock in the morning to let us go.
They really thought we were MS-13.
Yeah. No tats.
No tats.
Would you ever get a tattoo?
Gabriel look gangster's how-do.
Does look gangster.
Would I get a tattoo? Yeah, maybe one day. And if gangster. What would I get attacked?
Maybe one day.
And if I do, if I do, it would have to have a meaning.
Let's just say Dylan wants to get one
and he wants to do with the daddy, I would entertain it.
But it's not, listen, so many times I try to get a tattoo,
I can tell the story of you shouldn't get tattoos.
It's not acceptable.
I probably try to get a tattoo in the army 50 times,
but I just spend way too much money on alcohol and party.
I was always broke to get a tattoo.
If I probably had $200 to my name,
I probably would have had six tattoos right now.
But I was the only reason that you don't have tattoos
because you were broke in the Army.
By the time I was 21, I tried to have tattoos.
By the time I got a tattoo.
I have tattoos because I drew it.
I was being a tattoo.
By the time I hit 21, you're so.
But you ever get a tattoo on your gifted body?
Oh, man.
I've thought about it many times.
Yeah, I think.
I play college basketball and everybody had tattoos.
Yeah.
Oh, basketball players have tattoos?
Yeah, that's crazy.
I know, right?
But then after a while, obviously being a bodybuilder,
I'm like, I'm not doing that.
I'm at a point in time in my life where I feel like there's meaning to it a lot more.
Just haven't found the right, you know, phrase or right image.
But I'm not opposed to doing it at some point in time.
I'm just, I'm just contemplating it.
I think you ought to get a tattoo on your forearm that says, what's your point?
Just remind you every day.
What's my point?
What's your point? What's your point?
What's my point?
Not, not, not.
Every day I look in the mirror, I go,
what the hell are you doing?
No, you know what it is though,
if you haven't at this point, I think, you know,
if you don't want to get it, you know.
Well, after, after, would you get a tattoo?
Just one tear drop right here, just.
You got to run out.
Or because of what happened two weeks ago.
Yeah, it's tough out there.
Spend a little too much on with Sammy.
Yeah.
Sorry about that, Sammy.
No tattoo.
I remember being 16 South Beach.
My boy's like, I'm going to get either a eyebrow piercing
or tattoo.
You're coming with me?
I'm like, okay.
He's like, all right, I'm going to,
it went to a place called Tatus by Lou famous,
like, tattoo place here in Miami.
Again, 16 South Beach.
He went, he got the eyebrow piercing, your boy saw
is fainted, right? No. I'm like, I believe that. I'm like, I'm just, oh, so you wouldn't
get it because of pain. I can see why you wouldn't. No, the pain bothers you, literally.
It was just the tattoo shop. It was just wasn't, it wasn't from the church.
You were traumatized. It's just, it's traumatized. You know what I'm saying?
And also being Jewish, it's frowned upon. Yeah, in the Jewish community.
Yeah.
You know, Trump said three things to his kids.
Don't drink, don't do drugs, and don't get tattoos,
and I'll take care of you.
Okay, that was his-
Well, I agree with one of those.
Which one is that drugs?
The tattoo thing. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha It's so hard to have time for tattoos. Jello. I think there is something to say.
Because everybody has them.
If you don't have them, more, because the pressure
is more for those that don't have them.
Those that do have them.
Let's just kind of put it there.
OK, so another very important story,
that just, I mean, very, very important story,
that I think we need to cover here,
is Old Mafia guys think Texan has Roondomop. OK, this is a true story.... old mafia guys think texting has ruined them up
okay this is it this is a true story old mafia guys in texting has run them up
it's common knowledge that the new york's infamous five families are quite
what they used to be
uh... worn down by the feds upstart competitors and a changing world in general
according to the wall street journal though they have another problem the god
damn young
and their cell phones this is truly the the article. I just read the article.
The paper wrote that today's new roster of gangsters isn't exactly impressing the old
guard, especially because some lack the sense to not leave incriminating text messages or
logs behind.
A new generation of wise guys didn't properly learn the business.
Older members complained that the millennials who grew up in the suburbs, instead of the
city streets, are softer, dumber, and not as loyal as mobsters of the past plus, they're always texting. Everything is on the
phone with them, set a former made member of the Colombo family. So do you agree with these guys?
It's... I mean, you're the jar, it's half mafia. I tell you, man, go ahead. I do, but I think it's
the camera phones, one of anything else. And it's like, there's kids I used to coach,
and I would tell them like, listen,
you wanna go to college, college coaches,
they're gonna scrub your social media.
And like, it's like, I couldn't even get the sentence out
before we'd see them on Instagram or Snapchat.
Like, yeah, that's the party.
I'm vibing, bro.
It's a vibe.
And I'm like, dude, like there's booze everywhere.
You're 16, what are you doing?
I just couldn't understand it.
And I'm like, I couldn't wrap my brain around the things I used to do to try to sneak
into the house, right?
And not be detected when I was out with my friends or we had like a couple drinks or something
like that.
It took real skill though.
Yeah.
And then you're coming in and like you're doing the mouthwash like your parents don't know.
Yeah, yeah, you're doing mouthwash and a lot of water.
Exactly.
So then you think you get up to the lines.
The things that we did to try to keep our dirt secret
and these guys lived their whole life on Front Street.
You know, I could for them, I guess, man,
but I could just see it.
I could see the millennial mobster being like,
hey man, about to go ask this dude,
shouldn't have done what he's doing.
Like, I got my gun right here.
This is the gun I'm using right now.
You don't remember my name?
That's Ted Kosehnostre, bro.
Remember the scene in good fellows
when they do the big thing they go,
they lay low for a little while.
We don't need you putting, you know,
getting eyeballs on us.
And the guy shows up in the big fur coat.
Look at that fucking tool, you know,
lay low, what are you doing here?
At this point, it's a sign of the time.
Social media, Snapchat, Instagram, TikTok.
Yeah. If you did something and you don't put time, social media, Snapchat, Instagram, TikTok.
If you did something and you don't put it on social media, did it even really happen?
So validation, it's putting out there.
Like the cell phone has killed them up.
Yeah, straight up.
It's killed marriages.
It's killed the institution of marriage.
It's killed, I mean, the cell phone is like,
we are living in the panoptocon.
And also, it goes the other way too, dude.
What Gerard, just don't say that word
and pretend that anyone understands that.
And you use diet tribe the other day.
Yeah, but the problem is Gerard,
you use these words and you know nobody knows
what panopticon, what is it, a transformer,
what is that private school?
I will challenge anybody and any of our listeners
private school.
Tell me what the difference is.
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So anyway, the pan that is guy I can't spell it. Yeah, well, we know that guy type it David
Funopticon and opticon or hey, Google it. I think I gave it a
PPD doesn't know it then you're the point of trying to make that work. Don't use P.B.D. standard.
I was a friend of mine who had her daughter had a sleepover and they had cameras installed like in the basement to make sure nobody
Snuck out and I'm like no I'm trying to explain it. I'm like Sarah at all point of having a sleepover is to like sneak out like that
So you got to like kids be kids like you're you're putting these people under
Salas and I the con as a disciplinary concept brought to life in the form of a central
observation tower placed with a circle of prison cells.
Such a word.
I don't even make sense.
I was talking about the panopticon.
You're constantly under surveillance.
My god.
Great.
Great short.
Are you serious?
Are you guys serious?
You don't know.
I don't know. I'm sorry. I don't know the end of the country day?
I'm so sorry, I don't know if he was gonna drink before.
Yeah, I was there.
If I get it, if I get it, I'm gonna drink.
I'm gonna go take a panopticon.
By the way, yesterday I was being interviewed on the podcast.
The guy's interviewing me, he says, look, I'm so sorry.
I've never done this before.
I gotta go piece over. What? You guys are so, I want you to know, I'm so sorry. I've never done this before. I got to go pee so bad. I'm like, what?
You guys are so bad.
As I want you to know, you just made history.
I've been interviewed hundreds of times.
No one's had to pause to get up and go pee.
So you made history. Good for your stuff.
Shit, I feel bad.
You got to talk about it.
I said, I'm definitely going to talk about it.
He also made you do like 15 up front at the end.
The promo.
Oh my god.
I'm like, good, I'm done.
Oh, that guy. Nice guy.
Yeah, nice guy.
OK, let's do this last one here, wrap up.
America's trust in media dips to second lowest on record.
This is a gallop.
America's trust in media to report the news fully accurately and fairly has etched down
4% points to last year's 36%.
And making this year's reading the second lowest in gallops trend in all, 7% of all US
adults say they have a great deal
and a 29% a fair amount of trust and confidence in newspapers television and radio news reporting
which combined is four points above 32% which record law in 2016 am it the divisive presidential
campaign between Trump and Hillary Clinton.
In addition 29% public currently registers not very much trust, and 34% have not at all.
So meaning to simplify this math, they confuse a shit out of everybody.
36% trusts.
The rest do not trust.
1972, 1976, 68% to 72% of Americans express trust in the mass media.
That's a pretty crazy number. 72 and 76. Nearly 70% of Americans
trusted the media. Yet by 1997 when the question was next asked, the trust had dropped to 53%
in 20 years. It dropped 20%. Trust in a media which has averaged 45% since 1997 has
not reached a majority level since 2003.
Guys, 36%.
That's a scary thought to think the number right now.
I mean, do you trust the media?
Do you trust the media?
If yes, who do you trust in the media?
Who is today's cronkai that you follow in the media?
This is, well, I think this is not good.
This is 1972, I'll just kick this off.
This is good and bad.
I'll give you the good, the good, the bad,
the I'll give the good, or the bad,
is that in 1972 you had three major outlets, right?
You had the big three, CBS, NBC, ABC.
Okay, we all about choice here.
All right, so then Fox show.
We're not all about choice.
Some people are about choice, but Ted Turner, a fan of the show.
And then obviously, boom, the cat was out the bag.
I mean, back in the day, when we were growing up,
how many channels were on TV?
10, 20, 30 at the most.
Now there's literally a thousand,
so options go lower.
So the point is this,
is now you can go live in your own echo chamber.
You can go to your bright part
and that's where you get your news
or you can go to your MSNBC and that's where you get your news.
Or you can go to whatever you are getting your confirmation
bias and you can just get your news there.
The options are good, the different media outlets are good,
but the fact, like we say this all the time,
I'll watch Fox, I don't like Tucker,
but I'll watch Tucker.
I don't love everything that's on Fox News.
I'll watch it though.
I watch CNN, I watch NBC, I get my information
from multiple sources, like you always say,
is find something you agree with,
now go find the exact opposite thing
and that'll enhance your argument.
But I wish, my final point is here,
I wish we get to a point where at least there's some
agreement on facts.
Right now, it's just, I think there should be disclaimers, this is an opinion show.
Hannity should be an opinion show.
Down LaMonde should be an opinion show.
That's not news.
Five o'clock news or even the five that's all opinions.
So that that's, there's the good, the bad, and the ugly of this.
I think there should be a disclaimer if it's opinion versus actual news. five that's all opinions. So that that's, there's the good, the bad, and the ugly of this.
I think there should be a disclaimer
if it's opinion versus actual news.
I don't even know what is actual news.
Problem is, is the fact checkers,
do we even trust them?
There's that part we thought by fact checking
that we could trust with the media
or whoever is saying.
Who do you trust?
Myself.
Not trust myself.
No, seriously, I trust myself to be able to do the research
and actually be a free thinker on a lot of these topics
and actually raise my freaking hand and say,
you know what, I wasn't right.
And I think what's happening right now
is that some people are realizing, man,
I used to watch this show and then I realized
they're full of shit.
And then I watched this show and then I realized
the same thing.
So it was better that I do both and I,
you know, decipher and use discernment
and figure this out.
But until we get to the point where people can be called out
on both sides and actually come, like when you said,
and actually say a spade is a spade.
And then people, Jorar, you really had a good point.
The other day you and I were just talking about this
briefly and, you know, people see a spade. And then they're like, nah, I still ain't going to accept this.
And I think that's the problem.
Even with the way it is, we have a talk about COVID and stuff, the survival rate is so good
right now, we should be celebrating.
Not acting like we're in doom and gloom.
The way that the echo chambers are,
you know, and they just want to say what they want to say.
Well, I mean, there's two things,
two stories that we didn't get to cover today,
but that'll explain kind of why that is that way, right?
There's China appears set to ban reporting by news outlets,
not directly funded by the Communist Party.
And there's also Katie Curric coming out and admitting
that she buried Ruth Bader Ginsburg story on, you know, Ruth Bader Ginsburg was very, very adamant that
the player shouldn't kneel. She was very voice-trust in her disappointment in Colin
Kaepernick. And Katie Curric admitted to burying that story because she thought it would be
a bad look for Ruth Bader Ginsburg. So she, again, that's not reporting the news,
that's manipulation, that's social engineering.
The 35 people who trust the news right now,
you guys are wrong.
The trust in our news should be zero.
It doesn't mean you shouldn't listen,
it means you shouldn't trust, okay?
You hear Tucker Carlson, you say, all right,
that makes sense, this doesn't make sense.
And then like you guys said,
you go find a second and third.
Now Pat, I have one request from you.
If you do buy that media company,
if you do buy that print, overt bias.
Whoever they are, they don't get the hide behind this guys
of journalism, they don't get the hide behind this guys
of objectivity, it's gone, it's over.
Overt bias.
All right, two things, whatever they're registered or whoever,
whatever politicians they've donated to has to be in their byline, Anderson Cooper, registered
Democrat, donated XYZ, then whatever they say has, we can understand that it's coming from
that perspective. The other thing is user interaction. If you get a story, the user should be able
to go to point to click right or left.
78% of readers said that this is a right leaning article.
72% of readers said this is a left.
That's the plan.
That's the plan actually what we want to do.
But I think the current state of things in the media Panepticon,
it's a little bit of a...
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
It's a little challenge.
What do you think about it?
It's a damn Panepticon.
That's the word of the day.
Try to use the 10 times today.
I'll call your mom just to say,
Mom, what do you think about it?
What are you talking about?
Panapticon.
I talk, you talked,
you left me a message about Pinocchio.
And that's speaking of,
I got a text message from my mom this morning goes,
why'd you lose my number?
I guess I'm sorry, Bob.
I'm sorry, Bob.
I gotta call you, I gotta call you, mom, I bet.
Can I, we probably gotta wrap up, I'm gonna say one thing about the China and everything
with that.
When I was at that freedom forum the other day, there's something called the Firewell
Project where they'll, they'll, side by side, they will put up Google and then what
Google is in China and they'll let you look at an image of something in America
and then show you what they show in China,
and it's completely different.
You talk about propaganda or brainwashing,
like, so for instance, you've seen the,
you'll probably appreciate this.
You've seen the image of she,
next to Winnie the Pooh,
you've seen that he kind of looks like him a little bit.
So if you do that in the American Google,
it pops right up.
You put that in in China, looks like him a little bit. So if you do that in the American Google, it pops right up. You put that in in China.
0% will that pop up.
0%, I mean, you can try it right now.
She winning the full, I'm sure you'll get this thing right.
Boom.
Zero images of that in China.
And then we went on and on and on and on of different,
like even with Trump, with Trump in America,
they'll be the good, the bad, the ugly of Trump images, like all
the images in China where comb over, fly it over, evil, you know, fire and fury, it's
just China that controls what you see.
Google something in America and then duck duck go it and see how different the results
you get on.
10 seconds, guys.
So I'm glad you brought that point up fantastic.
Now I got to get that image out of my head with G
and we need to pull all day today.
But anyways, I don't think I can hear you, buddy.
David's censoring you.
David is censoring you.
Go ahead.
David, the Panapticon, and then you'll get out of there.
Keep using our word.
OK, so we don't have podcasts next Tuesday.
We may next Thursday, stay tuned.
For the 100 episode, we're gonna do a special episode
so Hank Tite will announce what the special episode is
gonna be for the 100 episodes,
it's probably a couple of weeks from now,
but we will not be together next Tuesday,
so enjoy your weekend.
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I agree.
I agree.
If you get a couple of weeks to share this guy, share this guy. Share your kids. I'd be great for a hundred episodes to celebrate a hundred thousand. That'd be great. It'd be great. We got a couple weeks to share this. We want to get to a higher
grant. If we get to a hundred, we'll do multiple more than just two a week. We'll try to figure out
something about the schedule. But we will talk to you guys in a week from today. Have a great
weekend, everybody. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
Thank you.