PBD Podcast - The Death of the Silver Screen | PBD Podcast | EP 17

Episode Date: October 6, 2020

On this episode, Patrick Bet David sits down with Tom Zenner and Adam Sosnick to discuss John Macafee indicted for tax evasion, Subway NOT serving REAL Bread, The NBA Finals in the Bubble, the death o...f movie theaters and much more... Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list The BetDavid Podcast  discusses current events, trending topics, and politics as they relate to life and business. Stay tuned for new episodes and guest appearances. Connect with Patrick on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patrickbetdavid/?hl=en Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/patrickbetdavid Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PatrickBetDavid.Valuetainment Follow the guests in this episode: Adam Sosnick: https://bit.ly/2PqllTj To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: info@valuetainment.com About the host: Patrick is a successful startup entrepreneur, CEO of PHP Agency, Inc., emerging author, and Creator of Valuetainment on Youtube. As a natural critical thinker, Patrick takes complex leadership, management, and entrepreneurial ideas and converts them into simple life lessons for today and tomorrow’s entrepreneurs. Patrick is passionate about shaping the next generation of leaders by teaching thought-provoking perspectives on entrepreneurship and disrupting the traditional approach to a career. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Gentlemen, we are back for episode number 17 of the podcast with a jam packed episode. You know, it feels like it was just yesterday when Trump said he had COVID and we talked about our podcasts, but we've never talked about the, uh, uh, uh, getting COVID on the podcast. It's one of those things that the news cycle never ends for that. It's just one big warp of news, just bombarding you constantly. It's, it's ongoing. It's nonstop. And we got a lot of things to cover. One is Trump getting COVID and the reaction from the left, the middle, and the right, which we'll talk about.
Starting point is 00:00:33 We'll talk. We'll talk all shocking too, right? I'm gonna close you on the banner. Aren't you, imagine. And obviously today we have one very, very exciting, big announcement to make that we're excited about sharing with you uh... will talk about what's going on between our million other by a gen which is
Starting point is 00:00:48 uh... ongoing out sufficient the ninth day we got a lot of things to talk about that part regal cinemas suspends operation at all u.s. location closing could affect forty thousand jobs then we have levies is jumping into the thirty two billion dollar re-sell market with its own program for war in jeans and Jackets. JP Morgan to pay $920 million, $661,000 jobs added
Starting point is 00:01:10 to the economy last month as of October 1st. We'll talk about the unemployment side. John McAfee, out of all the people, John McAfee's been on vitamin before. Yeah, like to hear your opinion on this, John. John McAfee indicted for tax evasion. We're dude, yeah. Qualified.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Qualified, weirdo. You know this guy, you know. Oh yeah, totally the fact that they found him is shocking. Is it? And the League of his own. That guy is in the League of his own. And then something's going on with Maduro. He's about to get a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:01:36 The debate that's taking place will come out of hers and Mike Pence. Melania Trump caught on tapes wearing in response to children separated at border. And we'll actually watch you do that together and get a reaction. That one I'm really curious to know what you guys are gonna say.
Starting point is 00:01:49 And there's a few other things going on that Ireland's court ruled that subway sandwich bread is not legally. Let's make sure we get to that one today. No, it is not legally. Do not tell me. Bread. Yes, I love my subway bread.
Starting point is 00:02:01 And then SNL did an interesting debate remake of what took place recently. So I say let's just get right into it, you know, with movies first and we'll let the audience build up before we get started. Guys, if you're back with us on this podcast, we appreciate your coming back and being with us, put the thumbs up and share the podcast so we can get into the different topics here. I know we got Dory and give him lots of the hits. Oh yeah, Dory.
Starting point is 00:02:28 So listen, I've never celebrated the heat winning. Let's go. This is the first time in my life. I've been excited about somebody beating the Lakers and finals. Yeah. I was rooting for Butler Triple Double. I think it's a series. I really do.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I mean, they're back. Rally's got them fired up. I just waiting for the breaking news that BAM is coming back. Gauron's coming back. Yeah. Shout out to my uh i think the strait in european ballers out there i think the strategy is you got to get a dm foul troubles that simple you got to get him a foul trouble sure and get him a foul trouble early didn't get a shot you don't right you don't it's that simple and force the lakers to shoot threes because they're not always going to make them that's a
Starting point is 00:03:00 good point that's a good point so let's have a regal cinemas okay regal cinemas suspends operation at all US locations. On Monday, they're closing 536 stores. Okay. On a lack of new releases, the closing will affect 40,000 regal employees. The parent companies, sign world, plunge 40% in trading Monday after the announcement. New York and California markets have remained closed. This is the two largest markets. We are like a grocery shop that doesn't have vegetables, fruit, meat, the CEO, Mookie, a griding, a grouse said.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And in any of you, we cannot operate for a long time without a product. Somehow, we would studios have experimented with shipping big budget movies directly online. Walt Disney opted against releasing its $200 million Mulan remake in US theaters and instead put the movie on stream and service for about $30.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Think about that. I mean, you're thinking like we're gonna go to the theater. They said forget about we're not going to go on a streaming service for $30, but we're only two thirds of domestic theaters able to open because of varying state and local guidelines. The consumers are apparently still wary of going to theaters. The $200 million movie gross just $45 million in the US and Canada and the performance led Hollywood Studios to recall from a release in costly films for now. So you're thoughts you've been in this business for a while. What are you thinking about this? I feel horrible for the business.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I really do because I'll tell you right now, they're done. They're done. We're used to not going to theaters. Is anybody looking forward to going to a theater? I didn't even like the experience before COVID. I really didn't. Especially when you realize you can get all this at home now and the streaming services have pounced.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I mean, they are so lucky. I mean, the timing could not be better for them. Did you see what the stock price did for the cinema mark, the number one cinema chain in Britain? It went from $2.75 before the pandemic to $52 right now. That whole industry is in such serious trouble right now. And here's the, here's the saddest thing for them. Like the CEO said, they can't link one case of COVID to go into a movie theater. You know, it'd be one thing if you thought, okay, my business,
Starting point is 00:04:54 my industry is responsible for 10,000 people dying, I get it, right? But when there's not one, not one, that they can really prove person that's contracted COVID from going to a movie theater, it's got to be very, very frustrating. Same thing with bar owners and museums and things like that. But I don't care about going to a theater again. I have no desire to. I don't like the experience to be honest with you. Maybe I'll go once a year
Starting point is 00:05:17 because A, I'd much rather watch it on my own schedule. And B, a lot of people at theaters are annoying me. Right? And if I'm gonna have two and a half hours, where everybody, though, that becomes a question. Are you everybody? Yeah, because you're not everybody, what's going on? No, what I mean by this, are you everybody? It's what I wonder is, I hear you good by the way,
Starting point is 00:05:36 just so you know, maybe you don't hear yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder if you are everybody. Sometimes like I go to myself and I'll say things like, well, who the hell's gonna buy coffee? Um, what if you build your people? I could care less about coffee. I go to myself and I'll say things like, who the hell's gonna buy coffee? I don't know if you build your people. I could care less about coffee.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I'm like, you know what, that's exactly what's gonna cause no one's drinking coffee. I don't know about what's going on here. And by the way, you may be right. I'm not saying you're wrong or you're right. I just saying, I don't know if we've gone away from the movies because of that or people or just flat out scared to take their kiss to the theater.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Are you a movie guy? You go to the movies for me? For me? For me? For me? For years. If you ask my assistants, how did you know when Pat came in from watching a movie? I would come, uh, seven o'clock to the office at work till 10 o'clock. I'd go across the street. I'd watch a movie. I'd come back. She says, what were you at? I got popcorn all over my suit. That fruit got in the butter, right? And I would go watch movies with my 80-year-old friends. Oh, that's funny. You know, Pat, here's the thing. I think I'm married. If my suit. That fruit, got the butter, right? And I would go and watch movies with my 80 year old friends. Oh, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Pat, here's the thing. I think, if this had lasted three weeks, a month and a half, it's a different thing. But habits change in the span of six months. And if you take the experience of going to a theater away from people and they find an alternative, even if it's 30% that don't go back, it's going to be really, really detrimental.
Starting point is 00:06:44 What do you think about it? I mean, the whole industry just needs to adapt and survive. So you see that a lot of these driving movie theaters are popping up now. Tom hit on the fact that he'd rather stay home. Obviously you got Netflix, you got Quibi, you got Disney Plus, and you got all these other CBS and Hulu and everything popping up. So for instance, I don't go to the movies unless I'm with a girl and she's like,
Starting point is 00:07:07 I really want to go to the movies and the moment we go to the movies, we go to these like fancy couch sit and type, you're paying $30 in the morning. In the corner, all the way to bed. In the corner, you know, in front of him. The old, you don't want to sit in the middle. No, no, the old popcorn trick, we know that one. But the... Busted. But these, what's the point?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Let me get that popcorn, go ahead. They need to adapt and survive. Basically, I don't see anyone just showing up, sitting in your typical seat. Other than Paulus Garcigar, our famous talent director, he's the same Movie over and over again. He buys like the the month pass and he just goes to the movies money on this guy They lose money on that. Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:07:52 You got to adapt and survive because the the game has certainly changed and I think Tom's right. I don't know if it's gonna bounce back. Here's the bigger question. Who's deciding all this? I fly here right every week. going to bounce back. Here's the bigger question. Who's deciding all this? I fly here, right? Every week, planes are full. All right, you got someone closer than me and Adam sitting for three and a half hours on a plane. Right, but then now with theater, you can't go to a movie theater,
Starting point is 00:08:13 you can't go to a football game. I think that's what would kill me if I was in one of these industries that's getting crushed. Because who the hell is making up these rules? And they're not fair and they're not consistent. So, man, it just doesn't even say, why can't you have social distancing in the theater and at least try to open them up? who the hell is making up these rules and they're not fair and they're not consistent so man it just doesn't even say why can't you have social distancing in the
Starting point is 00:08:27 theater and at least try to open them up well a couple things i don't know if you saw what uh... a quomo in the blast you said again whatever it was i'm sure it was great what it was it was again they're shutting down restaurants which now it's at a point right now with their thinking fifty percent restaurants are gonna just be gone you know that's not even exaggeration oh no that said that could happen that's to just be gone. And that's not even a exaggeration. Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:08:45 It's said that that could happen. That's an audits say that's going to happen. And that's New York City. Like you're talking about, you go to New York City to go to restaurants. It's known for its restaurants, right? Okay, 50% is going to be gone. The Blast here came out and they're saying they're about both him and Cuomo are in the same page about shutting down churches.
Starting point is 00:09:01 If they don't follow guidelines, they're going to shut down churches. Nonessential businesses are again going to be shut down because their cases are going up. They're not talking about how many deaths but they're talking about how many cases that's going up in New York. All that stuff's taking place and then again he was asked again he was asked how about protesting and he says well that's it's a very sensitive time in history right now. De Blasio. De Blasio it's a very sensitive place. That was my interview in July. No no no this just happened again. We did it again? This week again. This is Blasio in play.
Starting point is 00:09:26 This is Blasio in play. This is yesterday. We're talking about the last 24, 48 hours. So we did it again. This is kind of where I go with this. Look, when I lived in Iran and there was war and we were bombed on, okay? And we went from city to city to city to city to city.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Everything, it's in gloomy. Like, I don't even know if you guys remember when the pandemic first said maybe it was just me for about a month or two Dallas in gloomy when he went outside it was just clouds were dark the energy right it was just very weird the energy was gone you would drive into freeway I felt like I was in the movie I am legend you know dry I'm waiting for my German show that day not today know that you're a legend I know it's a difference so I like that by the way so, dry, I'm waiting for my German shield that dog. Not today. No, that you're a legend. I know. That's a difference. So I like that, by the way. So, so I'm, I'm going
Starting point is 00:10:08 through it. And I'm looking at the streets. I'm like, look, what's going on here? You would see somebody, you fall like you're part of rebellious community, everybody will put their hands up. You're like, I'm doing this. I tell you, when the war happened, and it went away, the first thing people wanted was a form of entertainment. The first thing people want is a form of entertainment. The first thing people want is a form of entertainment. The first thing, it didn't matter if you wanted to go on vacation, it didn't matter if you wanted to go to movies,
Starting point is 00:10:30 it didn't matter if you wanted to go to a park, the entire family desperately needed a vacation. I'll give you a perfect example of what happened to us a couple months ago. So March, I mean, February, the coronavirus becomes a little bit more public. March, official shutdown, 13, 14, 13 sports and league shutting down. And in afterwards, I have a Zoom with our guys and our guys don't have makeup on.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I'm like, wait a minute, the girl that always has makeup on looks like a 10 all the time. She has no makeup on. Our guys wouldn't even face the camera. They were off the camera. And I'm doing daily calls with our VPs just to kind of see how they're feeling. And I was like, well, Pat, this is kind of real. This. What's going on? That's what's going on. I said great We came together we worked obviously we had the best court in the history the company best month all of that stuff that took place But at the end of it after about three or four months our guys needed a break
Starting point is 00:11:17 So what do we do? We had a break at the breakers, okay? At party after poll so So we brought everybody together. And you know what's the craziest thing when everybody saw each other? It was emotional. Yeah, of course. I mean, they're like, dude, I just wanted to see somebody. How you doing, how you doing, how you,
Starting point is 00:11:33 everybody was talking to each other, connection. So I don't know if theaters are gonna go away because theaters is the cheapest form of entertainment for low income and middle income families. That's simple. And I highly doubt that it's going to go away as easily, as quickly as newspapers as we thought it's going to be. I do think there's going to be a transition quite frankly. I don't think
Starting point is 00:11:55 we are at the point yet where these guys going to be launching blockbuster movies on, you know, streaming services and all that stuff. There's still that experiment of going to the movies and you know how to profit margins work. All the profit from movies are made at movie theaters. They don't make tensions. It's all concession stands. So that is the experiment. I just think there's going to be more creative about it.
Starting point is 00:12:15 We'll see what's going to happen. And the pressure's on Hollywood too to crank out some good content. But you know what, all they care about is one thing. Are the theaters open in China? All right, that's where they're going to make their money anyway. So here's the question. Yeah. So, here's the question.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Yeah, here's the question. When's the next time you guys are gonna go see a movie in a theater? When is it? I went a couple weeks ago. You went. I went a couple weeks when we watched Jurassic Park for like the 50th time, except this time
Starting point is 00:12:35 was the second time in a movie theater. Okay, Jurassic Park. I hope I don't go again in the next three years, minimum. Maybe when I have grandkids. Damn. I have no desire to go to a theater. None. Your kids? And think about your kids. I have no desire to go to a theater. None. You're kids. And think about your kids.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Oh, I'm just so harsh on my kids, denying the news. No, but that's all right. I still like the experience. I'm much to be honest with you. Okay, so we'll see what's gonna happen. And ladies, I just want you to know, Adam is still open to going to the movies. I don't want anybody to be upset.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And the only reason I want, just before you order the popcorn with him, ask him, what is the popcorn trade. He may or may not release it. You know Mario and Paul went to the movies recently they invited me and I bailed on them. I bailed on them. I said guys do you what movie was it were they gonna watch like gone with the way I knew it.
Starting point is 00:13:20 There was like one freaking movie that was out it was like can it's coming to Texas near you. Do you have you seen this? No I haven't. It's the only movie that was out, it was like, can it, it's coming to Texas near you, can it. Do you ever seen this? No, I haven't. It's the only movie that's been out. That was the movie that was supposed to save Holly with this summer, right? And it just bombed.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Did it really bombed? Yeah. Tremendously. Okay, I had what story do we want to hit up next? How about we hit jobs? Okay, 661,000 jobs added to the economy last month. As of October 1st, unemployment differs 8.4% to 7.9%, which is good.
Starting point is 00:13:44 More than half the jobs in March and April have now been recovered.%, which is good. More than half the jobs in March and April have now been recovered. That's pretty impressive. More than half the jobs in March and April have now been recovered. That still remains 10.7 million jobs that had a job before the pandemic still don't have one. At the current rate, it would take another 16 months for things to get back to pandemic levels. Thoughts. Okay. I think these are the easiest stats to manipulate right now in an election cycle because there's gonna be a lot more numbers added
Starting point is 00:14:09 to that unemployment because of what just happened with the airlines and in the banking. And there's just a lot of layoffs in the last couple weeks. The other thing too is how many of these people, and I believe there's a lot out there that are still cool not going back to work as they're making enough money on unemployment or making more money.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I think so too. And I've talked to a lot of those people you run into them and it's still an issue so um... i think i think this is one of those things were had to work three four weeks away from an election they're going to use it however they want i mean that is encouraging it's the lowest level of unemployment since the beginning of the pandemic so hopefully it continues but i think you know we're let's let's find out where we are in december based on the result of the
Starting point is 00:14:44 election you said you spoke to some people that It continues, but I think, you know, let's find out where we are in December based on the result of the election. You said you spoke to some people that... That would prefer not to go back to work because they're making more money collecting unemployment. Well, that was true at one point. Up until the... Obviously, there was a state unemployment that on average is like $350. Then you had the federal unemployment that kicked in
Starting point is 00:15:05 and they were given everybody 600 bucks a week. Two thirds of people who were unemployed were getting paid more to stay home than to go to work. Cool, but that ended. There's been no stimulus deal insight that things gone back and forth and starting and restarting. We'll see where that goes. So agreed, people were getting paid to stay home more
Starting point is 00:15:24 at one point. That is not the case right now. People need to be looking for jobs. I mean, people need to pivot. There's gonna be some jobs like these movie theater jobs that might not ever come back. Certain industries that might not ever come back. You brought up something last podcast. You said, how many jobs have been created in the last 200 years?
Starting point is 00:15:42 It was like a billion jobs. Three billion jobs. Three billion jobs, yeah, I underplayed that one. Three billion jobs. So, if we've learned anything during this pandemic, we thought everything's going to hell, nothing's gonna happen. Certain businesses are booming, right? Zoom, all-time highs.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah. Fiverr, all-time high. I think certain industries, all-time high. Yeah. Things are gonna change that you just gotta pivot careers if you need to. I think the conversation with your kids need to start now.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Meaning, you know how parents talk to their kids and they say, oh, parents talk to their kids and they say, hey, like I'm Armenian, a Syrian, you know, Middle Eastern, when you grow up, you're gonna be one of three things. You're either gonna be an engineer, you're gonna be a lawyer, you're gonna be a doctor. That's simple.
Starting point is 00:16:22 That's what it is. And they literally would tell you that. Oh, that's what you're supposed to do. And would you disappoint them if you didn't So that's simple. That's what it is. And they literally would tell you that. Oh, that's what you're supposed to do. And would you disappoint them if you didn't go that path? That's exactly what it is. Listen, till today, even my mother till today asks, when are you gonna get a college degree? I'm like, mom, I'm never is the answer.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Mom, I'm not gonna get a college degree, right? But this is where I'm going with this. This is where I'm going with this. I think it's the bigger topic. You know how you have parents are gonna have a few different topics with their kids. What's one of the topics? Sex, how are babies born, okay? And every fat...
Starting point is 00:16:50 I leave that to the wife by the way. You leave that to the wife? I had a very early. I had a T. Conde de la Nile, he was four and six. I sat him down, I said, we were all naked in the shower. I said, we all have dangleings, okay? That's what we have.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I said, that dangleink is gonna be your favorite toy for the rest of your life. I said, your toy that is nobody else's toy one day You're gonna find a female friend that's gonna help you play with that toy, but that is yours Okay, you don't play with his I don't play with his you play with yours You can touch yours. You can do whatever you want to do with yours You had this conversation when they were four and six four and six years years old. Like I said, I leave that to my wife. But let me explain to you why, because you have kids coming over
Starting point is 00:17:28 and girls are over and they're curious and they're touching each other and all this other. You have to have these conversations very early. And quite frankly, now with days, would everything that's going on, if you don't teach your kids about a person coming to your kids and saying, hey, this is a secret between me and you.
Starting point is 00:17:42 No one's gonna know our little secret. I'm gonna give you this candy. If you don't have these conversations, let me tell you, someone else is thinking of worst case scenario. You have to have these conversations with the kids. And then you, you know, indirectly can talk about babies being born.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You have to have these conversations with your kids, right? And as I'm doing this, there's the drug conversation. Okay, I've had the alcohol conversation with my kids. My kid, every single time we had one of our friends that had an alcohol problem and I had to take this friend to rehab all this other stuff and another friend had to go bail him out. Multiple friends had to bail him out from jail
Starting point is 00:18:14 because of drug issues and alcohol issues. This has happened my entire life. Everybody has a friend that they've gone through with drug and I'll tell him I said, do you know who our president is? Yes, who's our president? Donald Trump. Do you know what happened to his older brother?
Starting point is 00:18:26 No, that, he what happened to him? His older brother died. How did he die? He was an alcoholic. He drank alcohol? Yes, he drank alcohol. He died from drinking alcohol? Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Do you know Dylan? Till today. Every time he sees somebody drinking alcohol, you know what's the first thing he says? Is he, are you drinking alcohol? Yes. Did you know President Trump or the brother died from alcohol? He says it till today, okay? Yes. Did you know President Trump's older brother died from alcohol?
Starting point is 00:18:46 He says it till today. Okay. Till today he says it. A lot of public service. Now watch what happens the other day, Dylan says. Daddy, the other day friends were over. They open up one closet. We have a lot of alcohol.
Starting point is 00:18:57 What do we have all that alcohol for? I don't see you drinking it. Why do we have it? Tico says, because alcohol is good when you bleed. You put alcohol on your wood Give me a little rum and vodka over there. The fact that Tico saved the date. So then we talk about drugs We talk about a lot of drugs and why do people use drugs? My kids are five six years old. I'm having these conversations with them I think the one conversation parents need to start having with their kids is about their careers. And I think it needs to start very early.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Meaning, son, think about being a coder. Think about predictive analytics. Think about data. Think about skillsets that are needed today. Think about hard skills. Soft skills are hardcore needed. You got to teach your kids how to lead, respect, improve, love, all of that stuff. But you got to teach your kids some real good direction to go and to engineer is the way
Starting point is 00:19:51 to go today. Not lawyer or doctor. It's engineer. It's how you're going to go be a person that knows coding, a person that knows analytics, a person that knows things like that. I understand the part where people say, well, my kid is an art person. She wants to go to Fine Arts. I totally get it.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I don't say you have full control about what your kids are going to do. My parents could have told me whatever they could have told me. I ended up selling insurance. I guarantee you, never in my life have my mom and dad sat me down to say, son, one day you have to sell insurance because that's the way to go. So all I'm saying is, 660-1,000 jobs that are lost and we're getting them back and gradually we're going back up,
Starting point is 00:20:29 parents have to talk to their kids about what the future looks like with another pandemic that comes down because the standards have been set. The next president when a pandemic comes has to shut down everything. And when they do, if you don't learn from this mistake, we learn which industries took the biggest mistake, we learned, which industries
Starting point is 00:20:46 took the biggest hit, we're going to pay the price again. So families have to make adjustments themselves. I think that's what needs to take place. Here's my question to the both of you, because you have a daughter who's what, 14? Yes. 11? 11? A little skater.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Your kids are... Dash. Dash. 8, 6, and 34? 8, 7, and 4. Okay. Totally understand, like, the sexual and three, seven, and four. Eight, seven, and four. Okay. Totally understand the sexual conversation with the boys, the alcohol, I assume you let Jen have the conversation
Starting point is 00:21:12 with your daughter, send her, I mean, I assume you don't have that conversation with her. I don't know. But the business conversation, what's the appropriate age that you should speak to your kids? Like for me, I don't have kids, so this is just being presumptuous, four, six, eight, five, and eight eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, finding their own. I even also know a 22-year-old daughter, cumul sumloty from Pepperdine, who's now a teacher.
Starting point is 00:21:48 She's gonna be a teacher, so she's student teaching. So you kinda let them follow their own paths, but support them. But yeah, communication 24-7 for us, that's what we do. Just so you know, I'm 100% where Tom's at. I'm 100% where Tom's at, because I have three kids. Each of them have different strengths and different interests, completely different interests.
Starting point is 00:22:08 But if I know this, Tom likes the camera today, guess what? Media is not a bad route to go. Today, you know why? What do we learn to do to pandemic with media? Media blew up. Media blew up. What's the first place we wanted to get the news?
Starting point is 00:22:21 Media. People need it for me. So you still can help steer in some kind of a direction and avoid certain things that are just not gonna be happening unless they're gonna find a way to disrupt. So for example, I'd say, this is the conversation I have with the kids. And say, Tiko, I'll say,
Starting point is 00:22:37 so what do you think about video games? I like this about video games. I'd say, Tiko, how would you change this video game to make it better? And you know what I would do? I would add this, and I would add that, and I would add this, and I would add this to it. That's great.
Starting point is 00:22:50 How would you change this? I would do that, and I would do this. Everything goes to, tell me how you would improve this. Okay, hey, by the way, just so you know, you know, newspapers are taking a big hit. This and this is taking a big hit. What would you do to change that? They give you that feedback, and you get them thinking
Starting point is 00:23:04 about certain industries to go into. I'll say one thing that I had no clue what I was going to be. I know my, I got a video you want to show us. I want to send it to Kai. Okay, yeah. Okay. Do a, do a, do a airdrop see if he can pick it up with a airdrop. Can I, well this is, my dash, I was going to see if this is bad advice. Can I tell
Starting point is 00:23:22 dash to be a pro skateboarder? He's only been skating since December. Kai, can you grab this? This guy's gonna be a model. Forget about this kid. He's gonna be a model. He's gonna be on a cover magazine. Go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say that one thing my dad would always
Starting point is 00:23:33 tell me is like, sales. Son, you gotta be in sales. No matter what it is, you gotta be in sales. You gotta be in sales. My mom, on the other hand, zero business savvy. She would say, whatever you end up doing, just be the best version of yourself, do whatever you, whatever you want to be a garbage man,
Starting point is 00:23:48 be the guest best, you know how your mom constantly tells you to go to school. My mom to this day still tells me, I thought you were gonna be a rabbi. Why didn't you become a rabbi? I'm like, mom, I don't even go to temple. I'm not into that. You can be such a good rabbi.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Mom, people listen to you, they lie. I'm like, mom, the rabbi thing's done. It's not happening. She watched the podcast. She will. She'll probably see this, but she's gonna be very upset that I'm still, she thinks I'm around. Mom, just so you know, mom, I'm also disappointed
Starting point is 00:24:13 he's not around. I don't work in honor for the loan, yeah. Hard to work in when we couldn't get it to be rabbi. He acts like one all the time, so that's good. That's very well popcorn. When he gets to popcorn, we're going. But just, mom's gonna ask you what is a, when he gets to popcorn, we're going to go ahead. But just, I'm going to ask you, what is the popcorn? I think something that I've learned is that,
Starting point is 00:24:29 you know, again, I don't have kids, but all my best friends have kids and whatever. I think when you're young, you start wide, right? And then you have to, at some point, use the funnel system. So you, being a jack of all trades, when you're 10, 12, 15, 20 is fine. But you need to hone in,
Starting point is 00:24:44 you need to have a specific skill set, and you need to be a specialist, I've heard you mention this a lot, specialist over a generalist, right? Jack of all trades doesn't cut it anymore, you have to be good at one thing, and then once you're great at one thing, you can branch out from there. And I stress, just be serious about it. If there's something that you're passionate about, you just gotta be serious about it and attacking, you know? Very good feedback. Okay, let's see Dash by the way. Just about, everybody has to know this.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Let me put it to you this way. I meet a lot of kids. I'm telling you, I meet a lot of kids. I got a lot of kids that I love. I got David, David Vera's son. If you kid called me the other day, I had a 30 minute conversation with him on a Sunday, he wants to write a book.
Starting point is 00:25:24 One of my favorite kids, we have in a company, had a lengthy conversation with them on how to write a book. He's 11 years old. I'll talk to him about that. Yeah, you'll write a book. I mean, he's 11 year old kid, wants to write a book, so excited about. You meet a lot of young kids that are studs.
Starting point is 00:25:37 My nephew, my niece, my niece, the other day, is telling me about the economical challenges she's seeing with politics and why, you know, she's concerned about what direction we're going with politics and then Sean is having this when you see kids you know their studs this kid is a qualified stud dash if you're listening to this you know it is well we don't have to even tell you that's the challenge with this kid he knows he be Sean Sunday. Watch this. Look at this. You know what would happen if I did that?
Starting point is 00:26:10 It. He, here's a crazy thing. Here's a crazy thing. How old is he? He's 11 and he's only been skating. I didn't let him get a skateboard. I said, there is no way in hell you're getting a skateboard. Maybe I'm a shonda. My wife, we're talking about this the other night. We're saying, I can't skating. I didn't let him get a skateboard. I said, there is no way in hell you're getting a skateboard. Me and my wife were talking about this the other night,
Starting point is 00:26:26 we're saying, I can't believe we just didn't decide until Christmas to let him have one. Let me say one thing I learned from you guys on what you did, which was very impressive. So we're having a lunch with you at Manhattan. What was that place with? Oh, the Strand. Wonderful food, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Would our waiter Ricky was a Ricky Ricardo? What was the waiter's name? I think it was Ricky. Oh, he loved you. Yeah. So he kept coming to you. Oh, you got jokes. You think you're funny.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Yeah, good. Yeah. No, no chill whatsoever. So but but here's what happened. What were having lunch and you guys are talking, uh, Avanna, yeah, Avanna showed up, right? Would an E, Avanna showed up and would an E or an A, would an A, Avanna showed up. And she showed up with her friend and we're about to go to a different place. And then she leaves and then Shonda tells us, you know, that she showed up with her friend, we're about to go to a different place. And then she leaves.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And then Shanda tells us that she did an extensive intense six weeks, what do you call it? Lifeguard training. Yeah. So why are you doing a lifeguard training? Well, that's how we let our kids go to the beach by themselves. And I sat on a tank and you know I came back just so you know,
Starting point is 00:27:21 I told this to my sister, I told this to my brother, and I told this to Jen. I said, if we ever live near a beach, that is the only way I'm gonna let Tico, because Tico loves the ocean, that is the only way we're gonna let our kids go to the ocean by themselves, is after they take a six week lifeguard training,
Starting point is 00:27:36 you take it, buddy, go to the beach by yourself. If you don't take it, I'm not letting you go by yourself. I thought it was a brilliant way of having your kids independently go to the beach by them, so what are you being there? Oh, thanks. Yeah. And luckily we live a place where you can do that in the trainings phenomenal. And then Ivana, I think she's going to be a lawyer. I mean, she is, she's got the skills to be a lawyer right now. So I think I might guide her down that path. You sure you guys are done? Oh, God, yes. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean, GQ
Starting point is 00:28:03 magazine is waiting for the next one. The contract will be on the plate, but the moment you have that sex talk with your son, ASAP. And Dilly needs to have that talk every week of his life, buddy. That guy's picking up waitresses at six years old. And he's naturally doing it, which is very interesting. Okay, let's talk about the legendary John McAfee. Have you ever seen his documentary about it? I've seen parts of it. Okay, so we're dude, man. Yeah, I have more questions in the documentary. I'm sorry, Eric, you seen his documentary. No.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Kai, have you ever seen his documentary or no? I want to. I want to watch it. I have not seen it yet. No. Well, you may change your mind after you watch it. Oh, okay. Have you watched it?
Starting point is 00:28:39 Anyone have you got? Okay. So here's what just happened with John McFoo and I did for tax evasion accused of hiding cryptocurrency yacht from IRS, anti-virus software behind your Mac if he was indicted, the problem that I'm under the tax evasion was under the Kevin and Kevin and the outrageous and erratic behavior from tech entrepreneur,
Starting point is 00:28:53 the indictment, alleged Mac if you're million, millions from promoting cryptocurrencies, consulting, work, speaking engagements and selling the rights to his life story for a documentary, but did not file tax returns from 2014 to 2018 authorities. Also alleged McAfee concealed assets from the IRS, including real estate, a yacht of car and cryptocurrency was indicted on June 15, but the document was unsealed, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:29:15 So McAfee is facing even more legal trouble on Monday. He was sued by the SEC for improperly promoting cryptocurrency ICOs, thoughts on McAfee. Is he going to do time? I mean, will he actuallyAfee. Is he gonna do time? I mean, will he actually step foot in a jail in a prison? No chance. This guy, I remember following him in like Ink Magazine or the big business magazines,
Starting point is 00:29:34 and they'd have all these profiles on him. How did he get caught? He was so good at being evasive, and they caught him in Spain, and they're gonna extradite him here, but what a classic case of You know the strings just ran out on this guy, right? Ended The chances of him go to jail very slim
Starting point is 00:29:53 I thought the chance of even is he what countries even Spain is that we're Extradition is that even happening? They're not bringing out. No, it is. By the way, the SEC filing was 55 pages long. That's how thick the dossier was on the charges for this guy. What was your take on him? You interviewed, you had to sit down in him two hour interview with this guy. What was your take on this guy?
Starting point is 00:30:14 It's a pretty unguided, right? So I tell you, I thoroughly enjoyed my sit down with him, but I'm gonna give you the backstory on this place. Where was it? That's exactly how the backstory was. So I'm in Nashville, Tennessee, doing some business and I'm meeting with Arthur Laffer, which you know from the Laffer curve, Arthur Laffer, he was on the busher advisor for on the finance side, would rake in, would use done stuff with George,
Starting point is 00:30:36 we some stuff with a lot of different people, okay. So we're in Tennessee, we're at Barnes and Noble and Mario is in communication with McAfee's camp. So they call and they say, okay, great. McAfee's ready if you guys want to have a meeting with him. Where? At his house. Okay, we don't have the address. We start driving to his house.
Starting point is 00:30:56 We pull up to his house. I'm on a call with Tom. I'm in my car. Mario and Luis go inside to set up. Okay? No joke. I'm in my car. I'm talking to Tom. I'm like, I'll be and Luis go inside to set up. Okay, no joke. I'm in my car, I'm talking to Tom, I'm like I'll be inside in a minute. Different Tom, yes, wasn't you?
Starting point is 00:31:10 I mean, I'm on a phone, this is three years ago, this is three years ago. So, Mario and Luis go inside to set up, and all of a sudden Mario takes me, Pat, they're not comfortable with you being in the car. I'm like I'll finish the call, he said, no, no, you have to come inside, they just first does. I said, they just, what?
Starting point is 00:31:23 They just first does. And our body, Luis, wasn, you have to come inside. They just frisked us. I said, they just, what? They said they just frisked us. And our buddy, Luis, wasn't too comfortable about the situation. So I'm like, I'll come inside to see what's going on. So I go inside, we're all looking at me funny. Like, who the hell is this guy? Like, hey, fellas, how you doing? And tat it up.
Starting point is 00:31:37 10 AK-47s on the table right there. 10 AK-47s. This is Cuba giving you a loan number, brother. I'm giving you a loan. I'm dead seriously. 10 AC. So we go inside. giving you a loan number, buddy. I'm giving you a loan. This isn't Tennessee. Yes. Okay. So we go inside, the guys were like, who are you?
Starting point is 00:31:49 Like, hey, what's up? How you doing? I'm Patrick by David, you know. I said, so who are you? I'm a former US Army Ranger. I'm a former Navy Sea on their toes. Oh, that's great. I served at the 101st Airborne.
Starting point is 00:32:00 What was your MOS? 63 Bravo. So hotel 8 specialized. I can go out and do some stuff with the, you know, some of the trucks that I had had a bunch of FM TVs, LM TVs at 15 hummers myself. What unit were you at? 326 engineers? Get the fuck, give them a come here, man. Bring out the good whiskey, man. We're gonna have some, all of us, hey listen, we got a couple girls upstairs. You want to go upstairs? He says it's good before the interview. I said, now I'm totally fine, bro. And I'm like, my Mario Luiz, you got it,
Starting point is 00:32:26 I'm teasing you, Mario Luiz. Now I'm good. So we're having the string. There's literally girls upstairs. Then all of a sudden, all you hear is, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, Okay, and you hear eight German Shepherd. Right. Just barking all over, running on loud. This is loud. We're gonna call the sack, houses on the bottom,
Starting point is 00:32:50 back is wide open with a bunch of land. And these dogs are, I said, what's going on? He's like, oh, he's gonna see us. Oh, good, great. So we going, John shows up with his girl. And he comes in, keeps wiping his nose like 50 times. Allergies. Allergies, yeah, at the time.
Starting point is 00:33:07 It's a very big allergy season. So we sit down to do the interview. He's got a gun right here, okay, on him, while we're doing the interview. In the middle of the interview, it's about 43 minutes into the interview, I believe. In the middle of the interview, somebody knocks on the door.
Starting point is 00:33:21 It's person knocks on the door. I'm just kind of like, I'm not even paying attention to the interview. I'm just, matter of fact, if you pull it up, you gotta pull it up. Go to John McVease interview. In the middle of the interview, I'm sitting there and I'm talking to him, somebody knocks on the door.
Starting point is 00:33:32 One of the rangers jumps up to the door to gun. Who goes there? Who goes there? In the middle of the interview. The answer be crap. You haven't told you the story. No. Okay, type in John McVase right there.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I can't believe he agreed to do an interview. Okay, so go right there, click on that and... Just mute the audio until I can find the location. Keep going, keep going slowly. Okay, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Listen to this. Right there. Okay, well, that's all I'm gonna say.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. It should come up any minute now when a guy walks. If you go a little, so you guys gotta going, keep going, keep going, keep going. It should come up any minute now when a guy walks. If you go a little, so you guys got to see this. Is that straight vodka he's drinking? Yeah, it's straight vodka he's drinking. And by the way, all of a sudden, I want to really find this because you have to see the reaction. That's what was crazy about it.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Mike Hammer guy was so worried. He thought it's over. He thought there's going to be a shooting. Keep going a little faster to see if anything comes up. He right there. Okay, 43 minutes. I don't know how to remember that, but 43 minutes. Okay. Watch this. Okay. Pause it. Go back five seconds. Let's hear what's going on. Make it watch this to the Ecuador from Hong Kong. The last country. Look at the gun. I go through it with Russia, you've got 50 different options. They're even direct flights from Hong Kong to Ecuador.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Why the heck is he going through Russia? So, you know, it's hard for me to say is it good? Tatted up. I'm going to go to the bathroom. It's like Hunter or something By the way, didn't edit that out of the interview He didn't ask you to stop rolling Not at all, I'm not even blink
Starting point is 00:35:12 I didn't even blink, he didn't even blink But the point is this So you know these are some of the stories people telling like Oh, whatever, it's being exaggerated That's exactly what happened all the time In a great way when you have a story like that you can say Let me show you, right? I have a story like that, you can say, let me show you, right? You got the video. Oh, yeah. I have a story like that.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Do you remember Calvin Err? He was the founder of Bowdog.com, the online gambling site. He was on the cover of the Forbes billionaire-ish. He was probably about 12 years old. It was just an eccentric crazy guy. I used to own this magazine called Post, and it was a great magazine. It was a luxury lifestyle magazine and sports magazine. So we just went into athletes' homes
Starting point is 00:35:43 and never showed him in uniform and ballers, man, it was just a cool magazine. He loved it. He was living in Costa Rica and Vietnam and Vancouver, but he loved the magazine because we sent it to him. So he flew to Phoenix twice to go to a couple of our parties, right, just to come, he flew to Phoenix from Costa Rica
Starting point is 00:35:59 and then he taught me how to, the only time I've ever played poker in my life, one time, he taught me how to play Texas Holdham and I kind of learned for 15 minutes, but that was it. I was horrible at it. Then he invites me to Costa Rica. And I go out there, we were going to do this photo shoot with him. And we show up and you know, we're going, man, it would be cool. We did something in the bathtub. Oh, hang on. He makes a call. He has five chicks over there in a second in the bathtub with a rubber ducky. And then he shows up at the door. He
Starting point is 00:36:21 opens up the door. He had a post magazine t-shirt on, and with a glass of vodka at nine in the morning. And then you look around and he had, he lived on a call to, or on a residential street, but he owned two houses each on each side, just for security. He had a bulletproof hummer, you know, the whole thing, just like that. And I'm going to myself,
Starting point is 00:36:38 this is a Tuesday night for this guy. This is totally normal. This is an average day for this guy. How do you keep up that pace? Yeah, so by the way, here's a crazy story about John McLeod. So this interview's happening. We have a good time. We leave.
Starting point is 00:36:50 We have an oldest conversation together. We post a video. And there's a couple comments he made about a price of cryptocurrency. He said it's going to go up to $48,000 in a different interview. And anyways, long story short, one of the short clips gets five, six million views in a span of like a couple days. When anyways, long story short, one of the short clips gets five, six million views in a span of like a couple days. When we post on Facebook, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:09 McAfee is got probably some of the most loyal followers in the crypto world that people need to know this. He has a following in the crypto world, like no other. They adore this guy, they love this guy. At the same time, he has a lot of haters in the cryptocurrency world that can't stand it because some claim that he tells people don't sell crypto
Starting point is 00:37:28 but he sells us crypto and then it goes down. It's so easy to do marketing and publishing that's so easy to do that with crypto, right? On the back end. So, in his documentary, there's a lot of weird stories. One of the stories was he had all these dogs in the back and his dogs were playing his next door neighbor who sold his company apparently and he retired in a body house right next to him in the Caribbean.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I think it's in the Caribbean's. He retests like, listen, John, I didn't come here to have a dog barking a backyard nonstop. I made all my money to go to an island and retire so I can do whatever I want to do. And your next to me every day I have to hear about dogs barking. He says, I can do whatever I want to do. It's my property. Macafee says it. So apparently, allegedly, long story short, the owner of this house gets pissed off. He puts poison in a meat, throws it over. Macafee's dog eats it.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Macafee comes back with his dog dead and he finds out he ate poison. And then he finds out this guy did it. He hires somebody, go take him out. So he gets killed. The neighbor gets killed. No. Yes. So this guy did it. He hired somebody to go take them out, so he gets killed. The neighbor gets killed. No. Yes. So this is the guy. So this is the guy you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Anyways, so that's one the part of the story. It's who he marries and the documentary says, who Jim Mary says, this is my wife. She says, he says, why Jim Mary here? She gives the best blow job I've ever had in my life. This is what he says in the documentary. Says, that's why I married her. I just want you in my life. This is what he says in the documentary. He says, that's why I married her.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I just want you to know this. That's marriage material for him. Boom. This is why I say you may not enjoy the documentary. Okay. So you're talking about a guy like this, John McAfee. It's where he's at, right? So what's going to happen to him?
Starting point is 00:38:58 If John Mc, if social media was around when John McAfee was first coming up and he sold McAfee, he would have probably had 50 million followers. He's won the original Playboys. All these guys I wanted to be Playboys, they followed a lot of his steps of what he did. He was one of the original Playboys on what he did. So what's gonna happen to him?
Starting point is 00:39:14 I think when you're playing with fire and you need a lot of attention and you're no longer getting the kind of attention you did at one point, your time's gonna come. It's not like you can't do this forever. And when it comes, it's not pretty. It is not gonna be pretty because rumor has it in the streets, he's running out of money.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And when you're running out of money, you do desperate things. When you start doing desperate things, you eventually get caught. How's your thinking as no? I'm gonna put him in it's early 60s. I don't know what it is. I'm gonna put him in the early 60s.
Starting point is 00:39:40 He looks like a loose cannon. 70s desperate, who knows? 75s. You're just a big question, Pat He's falling off What do you think John McAfee tells his kids when he's having that sex talk with them? I bet that's a good Mary the girl with the blesmo
Starting point is 00:39:53 Yeah What I do is I look for the woman who has no teeth That's what I do and I marry her that's John McAfee You know what I'm glad he got arrested after hearing all these stories I hope he goes to jail Yeah Karma man, he caught up with him. Even in the comments right now, we have people being like,
Starting point is 00:40:07 he's the man, he's epic. Yeah, I'm telling you. He's got to, like, he's a scumbag, he's the worst. That's exactly what he is. That should tell you exactly what he is. He's really polarizing, yeah. Exactly who he is, but the guy's, leave a comment what you think about this guy,
Starting point is 00:40:17 John McIntyre. What's your epic or the worst? What you have to realize is, he is who he is. He's telling, there's nothing about him that he hates. That's the part. Meaning at least the benefit about a guy like this is, he's telling you this is who I am.
Starting point is 00:40:32 He's not making stuff up to make himself look good like that. He just said, this is who I am. Love me or hate me, it is better. Exactly. Where were the threats coming from where he had to have that type of firepower backing him up? Did he have legit death threats?
Starting point is 00:40:43 Or was that just part of his persona? Let me put it to you this way. He said, he said, I don't use regular phones. He says, I have the kind of a phone right now that I would never, he says, I can't get any information I want out of your phone. The guy was, you know, there's a level of paranoia, you know, he said, only the paranoia would survive.
Starting point is 00:40:58 But there's also the level where you skip it, you can get closest to schizophrenia. Like you start imagining like the world is after and all this other stuff. I mean, if you got that kind of worry about people coming after you're not living a good life It's a very difficult life to live. I mean you get a knock on the door and all of a sudden you're Exactly the craziest thing right there You got guns all around you got a drunk Psychopath with a gun on him interview a lot of wheel
Starting point is 00:41:23 Pat in Flint with a gun on them, interview them. You got a patent flinch. Not gonna do a hard time on this life. That will not be revealed. But one day some people will reveal it. It's just some parts of it. So thumbs up, thumbs down for your take on this guy. About what? Just overall, like, look, you can't, here's a reality of it.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Who likes paying taxes? Who has ever said, I love paying taxes. Trump. No one. Yep. $750 is what it is. I got cropped on the right. No one likes paying taxes, but the one thing you can't
Starting point is 00:41:51 do it's this. It's crazy. I read an article one time. There was a company that was going around saying, you know, there's no law written that you have to pay taxes. And they were campaigning around this until eventually that guy got caught and you have to pay taxes. So I get the rebellious side of, I don't have to pay any taxes. But you're living in a country where he had to pay taxes. So I get the rebellious side of,
Starting point is 00:42:05 I don't have to pay any taxes, but you're living in a country where you got to pay taxes. If you avoid that, there's a price to be paid and you got to pay the price. So let's talk about Trump. Let's go, let's go to Trump here. By the way, if you're watching this, if you're enjoying this, press the thumbs up.
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Starting point is 00:42:34 So Trump gets COVID, you know? And he comes out on the date was, what was the date? It was October 1st. October 1st at 11.54, Kai, if he can pull up his tweet, he comes up at 11.54, 11.54 PM. Look at that. At 11.54, he comes and says tonight,
Starting point is 00:42:53 first lady and I test the positive of COVID-19. First lady and I test the positive of COVID-19. We will begin our quarantine and recovery processing. Media Cai, I think you pressed your mic and I hear additional noise. Turn it off. Oh yeah. So an I think you pressed your mic and I hear additional noise. Turn it off. Oh yeah. So, and I test the positive COVID-19,
Starting point is 00:43:08 we will begin our quarantine and recovery processing. Immediately, we will get through this together. Okay. FYI, that is the most like tweet he's ever posted in his career, just so you guys know. There's never been a tweet that got more likes than this tweet, okay. Then he goes to the next video, okay?
Starting point is 00:43:25 Click on the next video, he posts this video, we don't have to watch the whole thing. He's kind of talking about his experience. Getting great reports from the doctors. This is an incredible house. Look at the views, 26.5 million likes. Go to the next one, the next video, he posts here, this is October 3rd, a day before.
Starting point is 00:43:44 If you look at it no tie-on Can you pause the audio guy? No tie-on? You know Just giving a message his hair is not fixed. You can tell he's not in the best place there 37.7 million views go to the next one Here's another one update. He gives October second. So we just watch it in the kernel Chronological order but backwards because guys from norway but we went from the fourth to the second this is the first one he did after tweeting it out
Starting point is 00:44:11 it got thirty three point two million views so let's do the math so he first tweets it out one point eight million likes thirty three point two million views thirty nine million views twenty seven million views of him saying i'm getting through this, right? And then he comes out and he starts leaving Walter Reed and he's going out there in the public. And on both sides, your stuff on CNN,
Starting point is 00:44:35 people on CNN coming out saying, we're not surprised this happened. Pelosi, we're always praying for the president, but we're not surprised it happened. A lot of people are not surprised by it happened. We're not surprised by it happened. A former Obama staffer sent out a tweet. I don't think you have that, but I'll read it
Starting point is 00:44:50 because I have it here on my phone. A former Obama staffer tweeted out and said, it's been against my moral identity to tweet this for the past four years, but I hope he dies. Zara Rahim, if you want to pull that up, they can kind of see the tweet. It was taken that immediately after he posted it.
Starting point is 00:45:06 She posted it. Then Steve Cox, I hope they both die. Originally he says, I hope they both die. He originally was meeting Trump and Melania. Then he retweeted Steve Cox. Says, I was talking about Trump and Biden. Not Melania. She seems nice.
Starting point is 00:45:21 You quoted me out of context shame. Okay. Now, all this stuff has happened in, I got more stuff I can talk about this, but I'm gonna turn it over to you. What are your thoughts about what's going on with Trump having COVID? I like how Cox says, shame on you,
Starting point is 00:45:32 when he texts something like that. Okay, anyway, well let's go back to the announcement. And the reason I think that he got all those likes is literally, I think you can say this in all the four years he's been president, that's the first time he ever seemed human. He's humanized him, that he can actually contract a disease, be a little bit humble, be a little bit vulnerable,
Starting point is 00:45:48 and I think that resonated with a lot of people that were moved by that thing. But then reality sets in a couple of days later, and he's a fighter, and he's in an election battle right now, and it's do or die, and I think the last thing he wants to do is show weakness. So I think it probably scared him right away, especially with the fact that his wife had it,
Starting point is 00:46:08 and then he's thinking about all the, you know, he's still a human. He's thinking about all the people he was around. And he's probably thinking to himself, man, a lot of people probably do have the potential of catching this, and this is not gonna look good. This is not a great look for him at all. But then it didn't take long.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I mean, by the weekend, he was back in fighter mode and then the drive by that he did at the hospital on Sunday. And now he's back in the White House, and he's recovering there, and he plans on going out campaigning again. So, I think the most important thing is, I think it shows to people that you can contract this at a later age and hopefully be okay.
Starting point is 00:46:42 I mean, the whole stigma around this thing is, if you get it, you're gonna die. I mean, every time hear about it in the NFL we've got to shut these games down. No college, everything is kind of an overreaction a little bit. I mean we've had to be careful and safe and everything but it's proven that you know college kids aren't dying just dropping dead by playing college football and contracting COVID. So I ultimately personally think it's going to help them. I think it's it's an advantage for him to have gone through this, survived it, and have the last four weeks with this in his background.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I didn't even know he had COVID. I just, this is me first time hearing about it today. A lot to unpack here. Let's just talk about a 72-year-old man surviving. Why are you doing this? I'm just curious, folks, if you're watching're watching this does this help him does this hurt him? Why don't you say yes or no say yes because of this no because of that that that go ahead at them? Yes, sir so
Starting point is 00:47:36 He's not just any average is he 72 74? 74 he's not just the at some average 74 year old to contract a COVID It's for a president in the United States. They're not gonna let this guy die. They're gonna give him every single treatment, every single steroid, every single drug to make sure that he lives and survives straight up. So whether it's not some just 75 year old dude
Starting point is 00:47:57 in Iowa that contracted a good luck buddy, like it's the freaking president. They're gonna give him everything he needs. What I think, I did a poll on my Instagram, is this helper, heard them, 60% of people said that this helps him, 40% obviously think it's hurt. I don't, you know, I don't know how this helps him per se, I mean, getting COVID, I don't think it's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I mean, at the end of the day, do you want COVID or do you not want COVID? I'll go with the not COVID option, thanks. But let's just talk about who around his inner circle got COVID, right? His wife. So, uh, Hope Hicks, that was the big news. I think early that Friday, Kayleigh Mackinani, the White House Press Secretary. Yes. Several, uh, US senators, Tom Tillis, Ron Johnson, uh, Governor Chris Christie, COVID, not a healthy guy, by the way. Good luck with him. Kellyanne Conway, his homegirl, Bill Steppian, Trump campaign manager, Ron McDaniel, R.N.C. Chairwoman, Mike Lee, US Senator, Nick Luna, assistant to the president, his closest inter-circle, including his wife and secretary, press secretary,
Starting point is 00:49:06 all COVID. This might humanize these people, but it also shows holy crap. If COVID can seep its way into the highest office in the land and everyone surrounding him, this is pretty serious stuff right here. I don't want anyone who wished the president death, you got to reassess where you're coming from, okay? I don't care if you're on the left, you're on the right. Like if I could go back and I thought, and I liked Obama,
Starting point is 00:49:34 I wasn't like a huge, you know, nutty Obama fan, but I thought he was a good president. I thought he was a good person. If there were people on the right wishing Obama death, which I'm sure some people were, I would tell that person, dude, what's wrong with you? What the hell's wrong with you? the right wishing Obama death, which I'm sure some people were. I would tell that person, dude, what's wrong with you? What the hell's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:49:49 Same thing goes for Trump. If there's people out there on the left who are wishing for death for the president of the United States, like, dude, what are you doing? Like relax. It's not that serious. Someone text me the other day or messaged me, how could, because I was, when I did the story, whether you think it's helpful or hurts, and I was basically kind of just playing in the middle.
Starting point is 00:50:12 What do you think? What do you think they messaged me? How could you possibly even consider voting for Hitler Jr.? I was like, I'm like, what are you talking about? Donald Trump is Hitler Jr. I go listen, and the, because what are you talking about? Donald Trump is Hitler, Jr. I go listen to How and because my sister is actually a Trump fan my sister?
Starting point is 00:50:35 You know doesn't know what she's doing politically just in general not like but like she I want to know who your mom is Yeah, my mom would not vote for Trump not whatsoever But if you're my friend she would consider. Oh, yeah, of course So my grandmother voted for Trump the first time around now she's in Michigan now no chance she would consider. Yes, of course. Of course. My grandmother voted for Trump the first time around. Now, she's in Michigan, now no chance she would vote for Trump. So I have family members that can go left to right. But I tell to this person that text me about the Hitler Jr., I go, be careful. The fucking words you're using. You're calling the president of the United States, whether you hate him or love him, Hitler
Starting point is 00:51:00 Jr., do you know what absurd you sound? Do you know what absolutely absurd you sound? So what I think this country needs, whether you're on the left or the right, is just a little respect for the other side of the aisle. I'm not a Trump fan, that's no secret. But I respect the 40% of our country that does respect Trump, that does passionately love Trump.
Starting point is 00:51:22 So I just try to think if the other shoes on the other foot and Obama or Clinton or whoever was contracted COVID, whether or you think of them, you don't waste death upon somebody, okay? So get it together people. So that's where you're on. And by the way, your grandma who switched from Trump to now Biden, I don't know if you know or not,
Starting point is 00:51:39 she has a grandson that's thinking about switching from Hillary to Trump. I don't know if you know that the the fact that he's thinking about that he's still he's uh... yeah told you i told you yesterday what i would do with that i might position hasn't changed uh... although i do think this is a big curve ball and it can go many different directions and a couple things
Starting point is 00:51:59 on what i mean many different directions but if you can put the washington post story up and with chris evans from hollywood said here's the washington post we uh... this post has been removed I mean many different directions. By the way, if you can put the Washington Post story up and what Chris Evans from Hollywood said, here's the Washington Post tweet. This post has been removed. The post has removed the tweet picture below which was written Thursday and released through an automated program because the subsequent news of President Trump infection rendered it tasteless opinion.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Imagine what it would look like to never have to think about Trump again. This is from Washington Post So they took responsibility didn't take responsibility. It's kind of like well at least they did it But it's automated. We didn't do it. We would never say something like it's more like an automated I don't know a lot of automated titles that create things like this This is an opinion which means you somebody came up with a title Here's what Chris Evans just tweeted out a couple days ago, 19 hours ago, where Trump, first let me read Trump's tweet
Starting point is 00:52:49 on what, okay, perfect, it says, I will be leaving the Great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6.30 p.m. feeling very good, really good, don't be afraid of COVID, don't let it dominate your life, we have developed under Trump administration, some really good, great drugs and knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago, okay? So, go back, and in Chris Evans, this is AKA Captain America,
Starting point is 00:53:06 by the way, you guys got a room. We Captain America says stuff, you got to listen to it. He said, don't be afraid of COVID. Huh. You've been under the, you've been under the clock, care by the best doctors using a best drugs. Do you really think everyone has access to that? Yes, Chris Evans does.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I totally agree. Sadly, I'm sure you're aware of that disparity. You just don't care. The reckless, this is reckless to shocking degree, even for you. Okay. Are you saying you agree with that? I actually 100% agree with Chris. In which part? Which part?
Starting point is 00:53:36 That he has the best care in the world. It's so easy for Donald Trump to say, don't be worried about COVID. Meanwhile, we have 200,000 Americans that have died and a million people are on the way. And he said, guys, you guys, this is, We've heard about COVID. Meanwhile, we have 200,000 Americans that have died in a million people. They say, where are any of these guys? Yeah, guys, this is, okay, you can't play those cards that you're playing here.
Starting point is 00:53:50 This is a 74 year old man that got COVID. Okay, let me ask you a question. Does Hermann came have access to the same drugs that he has? No. Yes, he's on the, with the moment you officially qualified, rich, you have access to same drugs that money buys. Does he have access to good drug, shirt?
Starting point is 00:54:08 Does he have access to the same care? As the president, let me ask you question. Permacate has an relevant question. Let me ask you question. Why is OJ Simpson free today? Because Borad interviewer was a great interviewer. He built OJ, OJ. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Why is OJ Simpson free today? Because he's a great lawyer. He had Johnny Cock. Why does he have great lawyers? He has yet that money. Oh, oh, oh, so because he has money. So how about the criticism of a lot of famous people that have got out of way with?
Starting point is 00:54:34 You don't think that wealthy people have died from COVID? What I'm saying. What I'm trying to tell you is if he was gonna die from COVID, whether you give a medicine or not, if the body was weak, he's going to die. So you can't take one position and just kind of play with that.
Starting point is 00:54:51 You don't think I stained the middle with this. No, no, I don't go Chris Evans, but I also don't go the other side. I'm in the middle with this, okay? He's made, let's just say he makes it through this. Great. Say he makes it through this, okay. Let me tell you what's about to happen here. Here's a couple of things that's about to happen. On one end, when it comes onto marketing, you have to know
Starting point is 00:55:10 who's a better marketer, period. There is no question Trump's the better marketer than Biden. Well, yeah, obviously. Number one, whole picks, semi-genius. I've spoken to her a few times before. We were trying to do an interview four years ago. And she is at 23, 24 years old. She spoke like she's 45 years old. Kelly and Conway, she's a genius to put the words together. She's a wartsman. If you don't think she is, you're the fool. Because if you ever watch her interviews,
Starting point is 00:55:35 she may have helped the last election save Trump because here's a woman that's got to doubt. Without a doubt, right? She needs to work on her own household, though. And by the way, they posted a picture yesterday. She actually came up positive and she's with her daughter right now, spending time, which is good to see them together with the family. Kellyanne Conway, but you go through all of even Obama against McCain,
Starting point is 00:55:52 who had a better marketing team, Obama. Yeah, Sanders against Biden, who had a better marketing team. Sanders, Sanders had a better marketing team. Trump is going to know how to use this. They have to know that. And the one part is, now imagine in the next debate, the topic of COVID-19 comes up. Trump says,
Starting point is 00:56:10 Biden, you've never had it before. You don't know what it feels like to have COVID. I do. Believe me, you can't talk from experience. I have experience. Let me teach you. The world is gonna say, ah, damn it.
Starting point is 00:56:21 If he uses it to say, I know what it is to have COVID. I have personal experience. Biden, you don't. You can't speak on this topic. I can speak them on it from experience. That gives him an edge and he's gonna know how to use that in his advantage, to his advantage.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Period, that's one part, that's gonna be taking place. Next, 1.8 million people, click and like on his tweet. You know, 39 million views, 33 million views, 27, 20, 29 million views. People have sympathy for him right now. This is the time when people have sympathy. If there's ever that you don't want your opponent to get sympathy votes, it's today. Sympathy votes are very weird votes.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Because sympathy votes is not about, would you like the other guy or not? Sympathy votes are, oh man, I just feel bad. Even if you're right, people will go to the sympathy side. Say husband and wife are you. Say the husband is right. wife is crying, you will generally say what? What dude, come on bro, Mary, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:13 You're under someone I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. Sympathy votes are powerful votes. And they know how to use sympathy votes. Now in the complete opposite side, what the left is gonna do is what? Do you want somebody leading a nation this reckless? Do you want somebody that is this reckless that has access to the button?
Starting point is 00:57:29 Do you want somebody that has no control of decision-making and you know, he doesn't listen to anybody and he's going out there and driving around in this limo and god knows who else is getting COVID and look how many people around him are getting it. He doesn't care. He doesn't want to mask all this other stuff, right? We're about to find that in the next four weeks. and look how many people around him are getting it. He doesn't get, he doesn't wear to mask all this other stuff, right? We're about to find that in the next four weeks, if this is gonna end up helping this guy out or not, but I think from a marketing standpoint, it's gonna help him out.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Joe Biden's listening to you right now and he's gonna go try to contract it today. He wants it, he wants it, he wants it, he wants it. Well, I tell you one thing, dude, let me give you the other crazy thing. Let me give you the other crazy thing. So I'm having to talk with a couple of my guys. And so interesting.
Starting point is 00:58:08 So one of the guys I know, he, he, not an art company and a different company, he has some issues in his marriage, okay. And he says, dude, let me just tell you what I gotta tell my company. So what's that?
Starting point is 00:58:23 I just really don't wanna go to an event that they're having. I'm going to tell my boss that I got COVID. I said, what do you mean? So I'm just going to tell him. You're serious. He says, yes. He said, you're going to tell me you got COVID. So you know, you got to show if you got it.
Starting point is 00:58:33 He says, yeah, I know, but I'm not W2. Okay. So I'm going to say, I have COVID. He can still ask. He can still fire you. He says, yeah, I know they can still fire me. So he's taking a risk. I'm taking a risk.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Okay. So anyways, he takes that position. Guess what happens a week later. He's taking a risk, I'm taking a risk. It's okay. So anyways, he takes that position. Guess what happens a week later? He gets COVID. No, no, you're fine. He said that because he didn't want to go with his wife. He said no, because he and his wife are having issues. Oh, okay, I got you.
Starting point is 00:58:54 He doesn't want to say he and his wife are having issues. So he just said, I got COVID. Okay. I think there is a very big power play if Biden and the next week comes out saying there's COVID because he doesn't have to debate. There's a- You think there's a power play power play if Biden and the next week comes out saying there's COVID because he doesn't have to debate. There's a power play with him saying he got COVID.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Yeah, I do. No chance. But wait a minute, I'm just, look, I'm just, you're throwing stuff against the wall. I'm not throwing stuff against the wall. You're stipulating, you're saying, and I'm giving back, you commented it, and I'm coming back, and I'm just trying to,
Starting point is 00:59:20 what you said, I didn't come up with the idea. You said it yourself, I'm, I said, we're talking about the soul thing about what could possibly happen. Trump said Biden's living in some bubble of emotion right now. I think Tom said that what if he comes back and Biden says he has COVID?
Starting point is 00:59:34 God, you're talking about it. If he says that, if he comes out with it, it's also a strategic move. Not necessarily if he goes intentionally gets it. If they say he has symptoms or worried, we don't want to cancel debate because it's the responsible thing to do. Then you got the people on one side
Starting point is 00:59:49 that are voting for the quality. They value the most. Responsibility, Biden seems so responsible. He cares about the people around them. Then the other side is people like Tom, that they're gonna say, frickin' Trump is not afraid. Even four days after having him,
Starting point is 01:00:00 he's going after still getting the job done. He's not showing any, that's the kind of a leader I want. We're gonna see which one of those to America is more of yeah what do we always talk about there's 12% of this country that ten is it ten forty two forty four four that's a little bit just about got forty two percent of the country is going to vote for Trump no matter what forty two forty two not forty nine not thirty two people out there listening forty four
Starting point is 01:00:23 forty two forty four percent are going to vote for Biden straight up. That's the number. Yes. So that's 86. Yes. So now we have 14 remaining. 4% are going to maybe vote for Joe Jorgensen or the Libertarian or the Green Party. So we're talking 10% of the country.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Is that the number? 10% of the country is in a bit. So that's what's going to move the country. Is that the number? 10% of the country is in a bit. So that's what's going to move the needle. The 10% of this country in Ohio in Pennsylvania bless you, COVID. Yeah, in the States. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Arizona, all these swing states, that's really who matters. I don't really care if you're in New York, California, there's certain states that don't matter. The 10% in those states, they're going to determine this election, so they're gonna have to determine whether they think.
Starting point is 01:01:07 You know, go back to Captain America. Captain COVID is a comment, right? Go to Captain America's tweet. Here's the thing that really annoys me about that comment. You know, what's so wrong with saying, don't be afraid. Why do you have to live your life in fear? I mean, it's okay to respect the fact
Starting point is 01:01:21 that COVID is out there, but I don't wanna be afraid of it. I mean, there are people, people are just wired so different. I know people right now that still won't let their kids go hang out, won't let them leave the house basically. And I'm going, you know, at some point, you gotta get out from underneath the rock here.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I mean, life is a series of risks that you take, you know? I think I got COVID. I really do. I went to New York in February. In February, I was at JFK airport. I was at Times Square at a hotel. I was at 30 Rock. I mean, I was in New York in the minute.
Starting point is 01:01:52 I came back and I was sick. I was really sick. I mean, down for a week. But then I was back. So I thought I had it. But I mean, my God. I mean, why can't we let some people be okay with not living their life in constant fear.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I think it's inspiring that someone can get it and come back from it. You know, we have this neighbor, this is funny. We were going for a walk one day and this lady, she was by her house, she was sitting outside and she was just super friendly and Shawn just goes to her, hey, how's it going?
Starting point is 01:02:16 Oh, good, good, good, you know. And I saw we had, she had a bottle of wine out there and it was like 10, 30 in the morning on a, on a, on a Sunday. She was like 80, she was 80 and she was super spunky. on a, on a Sunday. Oh, the show. She was like 80. She was 80 and she was super spunky. And she goes, oh, hey, how you doing? How you feeling?
Starting point is 01:02:29 Oh, I'm feeling just fine. You know, I think it's that Viking blood in me that's keeping me alive. I go, oh, yeah, why is that? Well, I'm from Minnesota and you know, I'm just hearty. You know, well, my husband died two weeks ago. So her husband was 84, contracted COVID, died. She caught it, lived. Here's the funniest thing about the story though.
Starting point is 01:02:47 They cremated him and his favorite car was his sitting in the garage, so they just put him in an urn and he's sitting on the driver's seat of his car inside the garage. But she was unbelievable. She was just like, her husband literally died two weeks ago from COVID, but she survived at the age of 84 And he's sitting there in the garage in a jar on the driver's seat So drinking wine, I mean, it was exactly her so she wasn't you know hiding or you know Was she happily married or was she like kind of glad? Yeah, I don't know
Starting point is 01:03:16 I'm not sure where she's at feeling here right now. You don't want to ask the question, you know husband dad of COVID time to drink She's when he said she's from Minnesota. Yeah, she was originally from Minnesota. So I'm Minnesota. I think that's really. It is kind of the Middle East, though, so, you know, of US, so Midwest. But by the way, by the way, you know what'd be fun to make this year,
Starting point is 01:03:34 to say don't be afraid, is for Trump's camp, to go find a clip of Captain America saying, don't be afraid in one of the movies, and putting it right here, the man who said, don't be afraid is one of the movies and putting it right here. The man who said don't be afraid is afraid, you know what? So, but you know, these guys here that they're going back and forth to taking shots at each other. I think the bigger question can I ask,
Starting point is 01:03:54 is why is the mask wearing and COVID so politicized? Right? Like why is it so politicized? Like, okay. On the other side. On every side. Yeah. Why are you like on the left, your anti-American, your anti-science if you don't wear a mask, but if you're on the right and you and you and you people are wearing masks, you're taking away my liberty. Like why is it so political? Like it's not the COVID is not just happening in America. It's happening all around the world, right? In Mexico, it's horrible and India is horrible and Brazil is horrible. There's certain Europe is going on lockdown round two.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Why is it so politicized in America? Why is it so? You are a mask. You must be a Democrat. You don't wear a mask. You must be a Republican. Like why is it like just as someone who you know is center left, you think I like wearing a mask, you must be Republican. Like why is it, like just as someone who, you know, is center left, you think I like wearing a mask? You think I wanna go out on Saturday night and wear a freaking mask? You think this is cool for me?
Starting point is 01:04:51 You think this is fun? You think this is cool? You're a Gucci-Massage guy, right? Yeah, no, that's our boy, Ricky Agula. But why is it so politicized? So like, I took a picture of the other day of me not wearing a mask. I got hate from liberal friends of mine.
Starting point is 01:05:06 How dare you not wear a mask? I'm like, bruh, I'm not wearing it myself. I was in, I don't even know, I was just outside, wherever I was, just normal. How do you not wear a mask? You got, you're setting a bad precedent? People on the right, go get a body, you show these people, you don't need a mask.
Starting point is 01:05:22 You don't, why is it so politicized? Trump says he's gonna start campaigning again. I mean, he said this is not gonna slow him down. Doesn't he have to do 14 days of quarantine? How do you got it? Trump don't give a shit, man. He's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna campaign COVID or no COVID.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Part of that that's so attractive to an audience, but there's also part of that that's very unattractive to an audience, you know. He's the John McAfee of politics. People either love him or hate him. I wouldn't go that far. No, I wouldn't go that far. I think so. No, come on.
Starting point is 01:05:53 You don't think people... Well, what was incorrect about what I said? What do you mean he's a John McAfee of politics? I mean, what kind of thing is that? You either love him or hate him. If it's that category of you... That's what I'm saying. You know, if it's that part, you're talking about it. Would it be fair to say that Trump supporters
Starting point is 01:06:08 love this man? Or hate him. No, no, no, no. Trump supporters. Yeah. Absolutely love this man. I don't, I don't, I don't know if all of them do. But for the most part, no, I think, I think there's a group that just simply vote because they're scared of what's going on on the complete opposite side. I'm being that serious with you. And they are like, like, I have a very close friend. You guys know the name. I'm not going to say this name on TV because this person wouldn't want people to know which person, which way this person leads. They cannot stand Trump at all. But they're going to vote for Trump simply because they have no desire to see what
Starting point is 01:06:45 the other direction is going. If you're asking about Trump's true believers, they are crazy about them. Crazy about them. So you're talking about the Joshes of the world, the whoever's of the world, the he can do. No, and it's not even just Tom might even be in that camp. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:06:59 People that like Boolean bullies. Yeah. It's people that like Boolean bullies. Look, you watch hungry games. What's hungry games all about? It's the government controlling people you read any you read Robin Hood is about what the government taxing more if it's citizens It's not Robin Hood doesn't go and take money from the rich people and give it to poor Robin Hood goes takes money from the government and gives it to the people. That's what statesmen
Starting point is 01:07:22 Essentially due to say minimize and Lord attacks is a little bit Why take so much money from everyday workers? So you this is not about this is not about comparing it at that level But I get your point of what you're making by the way just so you know a lot of people here are saying to follow A lot of people are giving you a lot of love Adam just so you know a lot of people are saying Adam is growing on me I appreciate Adam being sentimental and not lacking the fact that the left is going after Trump. So you got a lot of, uh, uh, uh, soy boy hashtags on fire today. Like soy boy hashtags on fire today. I try not to read the comments, but that, but some people said it's not going to help them. Some people are saying it is going to help them. Uh, I would say 70, 30 saying help to not help. Um, you know, and, and people got some commentary about how I'm not allowed to.
Starting point is 01:08:07 What I will say about our audience is that we obviously have a, I would say in my opinion, a 70, 30 pro-republican audience. It is an entrepreneur channel. Okay, and I'm cool with that. My audience is business people. And just so you guys understand, even though I don't necessarily agree with Trump. Don't think that I'm not a capitalist.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Don't think that I don't respect your opinions. So I don't love growing on you guys out there. Because Sandra Aguilar, Adam is growing on me. Jonathan Berges, we love you Adam. So in my opinion, that's so in my opinion. You know, it's on the table that they do this next debate via Zoom. So it'll be interesting to see Biden tries to just use this to get out of the next debate i that's what i'm expecting next
Starting point is 01:08:48 you know what's the fallout you know what's gonna happen next couple days because can we talk about the by and debate because we have a little bit brought up brought that up i don't know if we have have we i don't know i think i got to mention i don't know i don't know for our after it where we live but what this but what was the expectation?
Starting point is 01:09:06 The most drink spiced or something. What is a roofie shot up to Jarrah? She put something in that drink. I was losing that drink for you. But Biden, his expectations were so low. Like, I thought he was gonna come out there like on a skeleton and like just, you know, Pinocchio that thing out there.
Starting point is 01:09:24 And he actually seemed cognitive. Which means, which means the following, which means, may not be a bad idea to have a part two. So if the bite you can't think, truly what you think, which is, he did better than expected, guess what, if you're so confident, you should have a part two. I think they won 100% should have another debate.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I hope you're right. I don't, I hope you don't put that aside. I can't wait for Trump to say, I know what it's% should have another debate. I hope you're right. I don't, I hope he doesn't put that. I can't wait for Trump to say, I know what it's like to have COVID. I can't wait for that line to be dropped. Right, but I think I'm a big congratulations, bro. This is when science and karma meet. Trump gets karma.
Starting point is 01:09:57 That was a good line by you. Who said science and karma? SNL with Jim Carey. Yeah. Shout out to Jim Carey's impersonation of Biden and, you know, Alex Baldwin, I think does a great job doing his Trump thing. Biden had a town hall last night on NBC.
Starting point is 01:10:11 In Miami, yeah, in Miami. Red Academy. Real unbiased, by the way. Just like that Trump one, when they were attacking him, not. He says he regrets calling Trump a clown. He says he wish he would have said it was clownish behavior. So he's back building on that one a little bit. I gotta make a comment.
Starting point is 01:10:27 I'm pretty un-dignified, I thought. Here we go. This is the problem with people and what I call, they're Twitter tough. I'm not even gonna read the name. Soyboy is a communist antifa BLM. Like dude, what are you talking about? Just cause I don't agree with you on loving Trump.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Something you're not telling us yet i'm a so i'm a communist antifa blm it's it because i'm out of fan of trump can i be done there's a background check on adam or no we gotta get our c.i.a. people to follow up on the marxist communist uh...
Starting point is 01:10:59 you know melania didn't even have to come to some of melania let's up all up the melania recording that was uh... shared with one of our former friends. By the way, folks, if you have friends like this, you don't need enemies. This is a friend who is sharing this phone call. The main thing, if you haven't seen this already, we can listen to it together and have a reaction. I just want you to see at the end, when Anderson Cooper is speaking for 15 minutes of his reaction to this, I want you to see the reaction of her face. Like, just see her face at the end. That's what I want you to focus on. But first, if you haven't heard it,
Starting point is 01:11:31 play it. Let's hear it together. This is July 28th. I'm completely sick. I'm the same like him. I support him. I know Greece must stop it, you know, who keeps the **** about to increase my stock and the courage, but I need to do it right? Yeah, but the amount is 100%. You have had no choice. And okay, and then I do it, and I said that I'm working on Greece, that's the planning for the Christmas, and they said, oh, why the people I get the kids in there to separate it? Give me a break. Where did they were saying anything when Obama did that? I know.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Wait, I cannot go. I was trying to get the kids reunited with them up. I'm begging how the kids need to go through the process and through the law. Here's my thing. Here you just said instead of that, you're just you're messaging you you're so loved. You're not doing the story. We pointed out. She's getting emotional. You're crying. Yeah. Story until you would not believe it. You would not do the story because no, they are not.
Starting point is 01:12:44 They would not do the story because they are not, they were not the story because they are there again. Look what she says about Fox. Yeah, I go to Fox, you go to the story. I don't want to go to Fox. Look at her face. Just watch her face. How many times have moved? The White House for Christmas, you know, i certainly doesn't drive with you know the fox all i did i mean for the war on christmas um... watch it's it's funny that she would be leading that that uh...
Starting point is 01:13:12 but you see that certainly it's one of those traditional roles and uh... try and hold it together it's a fascinating her talk like that yeah her reaction is because she can't believe she betrayed her like that and now she's on TV talking about it. She looks completely embarrassed and ashamed, okay? And here's the other thing, they completely misread that.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Melania wasn't trivializing Christmas. She was saying most Americans don't really care that I'm hanging decorations, but yet she has to act like it's a big deal. That's what she was talking about. But I loved Anderson Cooper's reaction. He was just failure to to compute he was just trying to find something negative to say about her in that moment and that's
Starting point is 01:13:49 all you can pull out all i gotta say is i'm in favor of legal immigration for anyone and everyone who looks like melania trump hundred percent let them in the country you'd like popcorn for anything the one the best thing that trump has going for him and i'm not even be in fissitious right now the best thing is that melania trump in evanca trump are certified
Starting point is 01:14:13 female studs like they may listen to anything she said like that she talk about the yet he's having a shot at winning what did she say actually tell us what she said what was she talking about she She was talking about collecting. Hang in on Christmas and stories and getting and getting the border and the moms and the connected with the kids.
Starting point is 01:14:34 She's just so freaking gorgeous that, she could say whatever the hell she wants to say. Wow. I don't know. Say what the Ivanka Trump. That's the best thing that Trump has going on. He's got good looking wife, good looking daughter. The shit show around him is ridiculous. But it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, so let me get this straight. Taxes are not going to convert you. No. Policies are not going
Starting point is 01:14:52 to convert you to convert you, but how beautiful malice you could convert you to what for Trump. Say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say
Starting point is 01:15:02 say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say That is real one of this. That's the one thing I'll tell you about Trump. I'll be honest there, guys. If you're out there in the crowd right now and you're not like, you know, and everyone knows that, true, everyone knows this is true. You take a look, you take a look at, I'll tell you one thing, you take a look at Vanka Trump and then you take a look at, not to get all weird here,
Starting point is 01:15:19 you take a look at Pete Buttigieg and his potential husband walking down, are you kidding me? Give me Vanka Trump. Give me, I'm Alaniy Trump any day of the week. Okay, I'm just saying, you look at Bernie Sanders' wife, whatever that Mongoloid is, and then you look at Ivanka Trump, come on.
Starting point is 01:15:36 They got a good looking situation going on over here. That's all I'm saying. The president's saying, optics, I'm just saying optics, he's done a great job bringing some. That's what Jimmy Carter did in the beginning. Okay. He's done a great job bringing some That's what Jimmy Carter to give you like that. Okay, that's a sense of it.
Starting point is 01:15:49 People can be like this or that or this or that. You know, it's true. They're gorgeous. What are you gonna say? I don't know what the hell she was talking about. They're hanging the Christmas. I don't know. I don't know. They're like me. I don't care what she's saying. She's gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:16:03 There it is. I said it. There it is. I said it. There it is. She can go up and say that for you, too. She says she is the hottest first lady ever. Is that okay? Never. For sure.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Not even close. Not even close. Ooh, Jackie O maybe, but not so much. I don't know. Marilyn Monroe, was she considered the first? No. J.A.V.K. Not bad.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Yeah. Just kidding. Abraham Blinken's wife. Would you disagree that she's the hottest first wife? I mean, first lady. I wouldn't disagree. I mean, how could you? She's freaking me supermodel. I wouldn't, and I loved the way how she is.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Okay, I'll tell you what, whenever Trump leaves office, whether it's in four weeks or in four years. Nicholas Madness asks Adam from here until the election. What would Trump have to do to win your vote? Outside of marrying a beautiful. Hook me up with the check that looks like Melania done. We got it.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Sister. You hook me up Melania sister, I take care of you. We're gonna talk about Borat part two. Is that coming up? You were gonna make a point because I don't know. I will say this. What if Trump leaves office in four weeks or in four years? When she writes a book, number one bestseller.
Starting point is 01:17:04 They, they, it comes out straight up. Yeah, she's got some secrets. She's got some stories, man. And she's smarter than you think she is. Oh, of course, I mean, she's getting my, of course she was, it was impressive. You spent the day with her. I don't mean about that.
Starting point is 01:17:15 I don't mean about that. I interviewed her for a magazine and we, Tom, this whole time you've been holding on stories. No, it was, it was, I'm telling stories about weirdos in Costa Rica. That's really story. It's Adam Ciro, she did it. And you do, it was the top floor of their hotel in Central Park?
Starting point is 01:17:26 Okay. You know, amazing view. How long ago was this? This was probably 2012, maybe? This is pre-president. This is pre-president. Yeah, this was like app, you know, when I'm practicing.
Starting point is 01:17:35 When I'm practicing. I'm practicing. I'm practicing. I'm practicing. I'm practicing. I'm practicing. I'm practicing. I mean, I was impressed.
Starting point is 01:17:43 I mean, I was impressed. I mean, you go in there and you think that, you know, maybe you have these preconceived notions that she doesn't, you know, it's just her looks and everything that got her. But man, she's an impressive person. She was very accomplished in Russia to come. She's strategic. She is a calculating individual. She is not someone, I mean, there's been deals that have been made.
Starting point is 01:18:00 I'm sure for her to put up with what she's had to put up with over the years. I mean, she's a very, very brilliant, calculating person and you're right about the book. I think it'd be an amazing read. No question. Straight up, she knows that Trump has treated on her. She has to know that, right? She's not a dummy, buddy.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Okay, yeah. But she's taken by her man. There you go. I think it's a power of a drug, man. Because she knows what she signed up for. Let's talk about what, let's talk about the real issue here. Does this do anything? Do you look at this and say unfair towards her? Do you look at this and say you know The media is definitely being biased and they're not you know
Starting point is 01:18:35 The other day did you see the CNN story that came out the other day first wives go to CNN first wives Just type in on Google CNN first wife check this out CNN first latest and first First ladies first ladies. Yeah, it was on Twitter as well, but you're gonna have to go through 50 tweets. Go to, first ladies, we got the show, I'm gonna go on the phone only. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Go below it so they just came out with a documentary. That's the one right there. The CNN special documentary called First Ladies. So just type in on Google First Ladies.
Starting point is 01:19:10 First Ladies and then go to Images. Ladies, then go to Images. Images, there you go. So then type in CNN next to it. Maybe let's see if that'll come up. So they just did a series. Okay, on CNN, that one right there, click on it, perfect. So who's missing on there? Wow.
Starting point is 01:19:32 The correct. Michelle's big, Hillary's big. Nancy Reagan, Nancy Reagan's a size of Michelle's ear, okay, look at that. And Melania's not on there. A lot of people are not on there. When did this come out? This just came out a couple days ago. That's unacceptable. I mean, look at it. It's unacceptable. Yeah, this just came out four days ago. Yeah, I mean, even for marketing purposes, you got to put Melania. The media buys against Melania 100%. Yeah, but
Starting point is 01:19:55 I tell you for me, again, this is not scripted, right? What Melania did. For me, a couple things happen. Number one, that woman who's gonna hire her? I Actually want you to ask the question so you're about to interview her and hire her would you consider hiring? Hell no, would you know you see what she's basically leaking stories is leaking secrets? She's not a sheet is leaking a private phone call with her friend Would you hire somebody like that? Obviously not okay? So she probably got paid for doing this sharing this your lost her credibility
Starting point is 01:20:26 Yeah, you know how much you got paid probably 20 grand. It's not even that much the point. I'm trying to make to use Imagine that's your mom Say that's your mom forget about it. It's your mom. It's your wife. It's your sister actually look at it from that standpoint That is your mom your mom just leaked somebody's conversation. What do you tell your mom? What are you doing? So imagine you're going to work. Every day and that's your mom. So your mom is, that's your mom. Your mom is that person?
Starting point is 01:20:51 Oh my gosh. I would never, and then I'm not trusting you because you come from that lineage. That's the Kellyanne Conway, Darsage. That's one of the worst things you could do is to cut the person that hired you to be their alliance to trust you to open up and cry like this. Freaking rule number one, a character. If some, it might, dude, my enemies,
Starting point is 01:21:09 I know stuff on my enemies that are very, very dark thing. I still won't leak it to people. Okay, I still won't leak it to people. That's what he doing with that, you know? I believe it will. What do you do with some like that? That's number one. Second thing, I felt your pain.
Starting point is 01:21:24 I sympathized with her. It's like, you know what? I can that? That's number one. Second thing, I felt your pain. I sympathize with her. Just like, you know what? I can see what she's going through. I can see the fact that she's ousted. No one's probably reaching out. No one's probably talking to her. No one's probably doing anything with her. You know, who's contacting her?
Starting point is 01:21:37 Definitely not George Bush's wife because she doesn't like Trump. So she's not calling us in. Is there anything we can help you out with? No, they're because they're part of Obama's and Clinton's camp. They're on the complete opposite side. These guys are not. So she's not calling us and is there anything we can help you out with? No, they're because they're part of Obama's and Clinton's camp. They're on the complete opposite side These guys are now so she's alone. She's by herself. Who was she talked into that knows her experience?
Starting point is 01:21:53 I don't think anybody does but So you know again, when I saw this I was kind of disappointed to see that a advisor that's a friend of yours That's gonna come out talking like that for you But I actually think it helped that Melania because the world saw a difference out of Melania. Yeah. I think we're like, you know what, damn, what was the last comment that she could do it on Fox, but she didn't want to. Why?
Starting point is 01:22:11 Because she knows that, she knows that, she knows. She knows she doesn't want to do it on Fox because everyone's gonna say, of course Fox would do a story like this. She wants that story to be on a CNN or ABCs or CBS or NBC or something like that. Can you imagine no one wants to do a story on the first link? How many people would watch it?
Starting point is 01:22:27 It's a money making opportunity. And still say no to it. You know, I was listening to the conversation. I was wondering when did it click for that woman that she was going to release this tape? Like I felt listening to it, she was setting her up. I thought during that conversation, she was egging her on, encouraging her,
Starting point is 01:22:43 and already thinking about selling that thing much respect to the audience We just cracked 3000 give a give a like give a share give a awesome put it thumbs up put it Sub and share it as well. Let's let's talk about an issue that's very close to me and My lineage and my family for some of you that know or don't know my mother is Armenia Diana Boros young family for some of you that know or don't know, my mother is Armenian. Diana, Bo Ghousyan. Ma'amjana, if you're listening to this, first language I spoke was Armenian and in a Syrian. My dad is a Syrian, a Suri, bedavit, the house of David Betha, Suray bin and a Babi Suray
Starting point is 01:23:17 liyemi, Aram Netala. Hayranem Khosum, Parskeranem Khosum, Asiranem Khosum. The other I got a phone call and I was talking to the actor of the movie coming out on Apple called Tehran. Have you guys seen this Tehran Tehran Tehran? I watched the whole thing. I think the fifth one is coming out this Friday. So the main actor has been sending me messages for a couple months on Instagram. And I've not been following it. The main guy that's interrogating everybody who's wife has a surgery, all that's a ghost of curse.
Starting point is 01:23:46 So he sent him and I was like, I'll get to it. I don't know what he's talking about. I honestly have no clue what he's talking about. Then I watch that Tehran comes up and I'm watching and I'm like, wow. Then I see his name coming, and he said, that's my movies out. Have you seen?
Starting point is 01:23:59 I said, that's you. So what a great job you did act and I was so impressed. So do you speak Farsi? I said, you know, I can speak 90% of it. I'm saying, my can't far see half me, Zanam. So far see, my bad, I'm not going to speak Farsi.
Starting point is 01:24:11 I'm going to be a bad person. So I speak Armenian, first language, a Syrian second language, Farsi third language, then you have a German fourth language and in its English, I took a spell. You speak five languages. German, I can understand if you speak to me.
Starting point is 01:24:23 I can't speak it. Okay, I understand about I can't speak it. So Armenia and Azerbaijan, full out war right now. Hundreds of people have been killed. We are officially on the ninth day that this is taking place. If you're following this,
Starting point is 01:24:39 Protestants been going on now for quite some time in Glendale, there were a lot of peaceful protests in Ghana with Armenians yesterday. A few days ago Armenians went on the 101 freeway on both sides holding up the Armenian flag saying, we gotta bring attention to this event that's taking place in Armenia right now. And eventually yesterday in LA,
Starting point is 01:25:00 the councilman came out, Mayor Garcetti, sent a video that gave a statement. All of them were wearing Armenian masks. If you haven't seen that kind, if you want to pull it up, accounts LA, Councilmen, Arminia mask, if you want to put that up, it should show up Arminia mask. This was just literally yesterday, yeah, right there. If you go to images, this was yesterday. So they gave a talk and they all had to Arminia mask to represent what's taking place. So what is really going on? Let's talk about a little bit of the details of what's really going on.
Starting point is 01:25:27 I want to hear your inputs as well with this challenge. So I had a conversation with Eric Israelian, who is the producer of the movie The Promise. If you've not seen the movie The Promise, you got to go watch The Promise. The promise, this was the last project that Kirk Accorion did before he died. He wanted to make sure the story of the Armenian genocide was told. And so he said, I don't care how much money we spent, I want to be able to do this movie. Guess who's the leading actor? Christian Bale.
Starting point is 01:25:53 He crushes it. If you've not seen it, you've got to go watch the promise. Kai, can we put the link below for people to see the promise IMDB so they can go watch it for themselves? I talked to Eric yesterday for good hour. And when I spoke for good hour, Eric's a doctor. He's done great things. I talked to Eric yesterday for good hour. And when I spoke for good hour, Eric's a doctor, he's done great things,
Starting point is 01:26:07 he's also the producer of the movie. We had very interesting conversations together. Last week on Sunday, I got a call from Armenia with the head of press of Nicole Pashinian. We had a good 20, 30 minute conversation together. I'm, we're trying to schedule time for us to interview in the call Pashinian, the prime minister of Armenia. But let's talk about a little bit of the events.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Timeline, I would really took place. In 1923, Stalin, when he was the acting commissar of nationalities, for the decided to make a Rharabakh, region, an autonomous oblast of Soviet Azerbaijan. Okay, 1923, that's what Stalin did. So meaning, it's the property and under control of Azerbaijan, but it's led by Armenians with a community that they have.
Starting point is 01:26:50 The current conflict began in 1988 when Garabagh Armenians demanded that Garabagh be transferred to Soviet Azerbaijan, from Soviet Azerbaijan to Soviet Armenia. Meaning, it was under Soviet Azerbaijan, the Armenians from Garabagh says, we wanna be moved over to Soviet Armenia. Why? Because as the Soviet Union weakened,
Starting point is 01:27:07 Armenia population did not want to remain within the Azerbaijan and declared independence in 1991. Obviously there was guerrilla warfare from 1988 to 1991. It wasn't pretty, it was very ugly. Let's do a follow-on war in the early 90s, a follow-on war. And in the late 1990s, 1991 to 1992, Armenians in Radabakh were targeted for months long campaign of intentional civilian bombardment and blockade,
Starting point is 01:27:32 bioser by John Shelling, sniper shooting, aerial attacks, killed and maimed hundreds of civilians, you know, wounded, hurt them a lot. Seize Fire sign in 1995, 1994, that brought two decades of a war that's going on back and forward a little bit to stability. This is 1994, which is 26 years ago. April 2016, there was a four-day escalation. Again, war, ugliness for four days, very ugly, going back and forth. People dying left and right, that did the ceasefire violation
Starting point is 01:28:05 until 2020 crisis, which is now. So now it's been nine days. We have two sides. One side, Azerbaijan, a president, Ilya Aliyev, who's done a lot of different interviews lately. He is saying this is our land, this is ours. They're not gonna get it. And if you wanna come get it,
Starting point is 01:28:24 we're not gonna let you have it Armenia on the other side Is saying that Azerbaijan attacked first and they started this or many has to defend themselves and Pashinyan Prime Minister saw this and we're not gonna sit here and let you do whatever you want to do to our people We have to defend our people so they've gone back and forth and it's very technical. It's very complicated You know there is on one end you got armenia that is somewhat protected by russia you know the prime ministers have conversations with the prime minister france
Starting point is 01:28:53 the leaders of iran twice he talked to putin prime minister pashinion has and russia kind of protects armenia and somewhat iran protects uh... armenia as well because the're right there on the Kaspian Sea. And then Azerbaijan is protected by Turkey and also a little bit of Israel because the oil business that they have and Turkey because Turkey is Muslim. Armenia is 96% Christian.
Starting point is 01:29:17 Azerbaijan is 91% Muslim population to population. I think Armenia is 2.9 million. Azerbaijan is 10.3 million. Armenia's military budget is like 1.7 billion. Azerbaijan's military budget annuals like 2.9 billion. It's twice the amount of military budget. So Azerbaijan threatened to attack Armenia's nuclear plant. This is going back and forth.
Starting point is 01:29:36 It's not really pretty. Some of the videos you see are very, very ugly on what's going on. But Russia can't stop this, but they can't, they haven't yet because they do business with Turkey and they sell them weapons, so they are a customer. So there are multiple parties that can stop this, but they haven't yet. US, Russia and Turkey can stop this right away if they wanted to, but they haven't yet. Why?
Starting point is 01:30:00 Each have their own interest. US isn't because US asked Armenia to stop doing business with Iran, even though we put sanctions, you still are. And Armenia says, what do you want us to do? There are neighbors. You want me to say no to them? I share cash, me and see with these guys. Right across it, we're neighbors. I have to have good relation with my side. Turkey isn't doing it because Turkey's never liked Armenia. You know, turkeys have wanted to make Armenians disappear for the longest. I'm Erdogan cannot stand Armenians is publicly criticized them regularly. And then on the other side, Russia is kind of in the middle saying,
Starting point is 01:30:30 listen, man, we're kind of like the coach here and we're watching this with a couple of the different nation that we're the coach here. I can't fully get involved, but really they can't. If Russia, US and Turkey wanted to stop this, they could do it today, but they haven't yet. So that got more things I want to talk about with this, but I'm going to turn it over to you guys. I knew you guys have done some research as well. Sure. Where are you at, what's going on with it?
Starting point is 01:30:48 I don't claim to be an expert, but you know, this thing's only nine or 10 days old, but if you look at the history, here's the thing that scares me. Turkey. I mean, you mentioned that the fact that they're not going to, and they're right there, and they're the ones that are going to escalate this thing
Starting point is 01:31:02 and make it way worse. I'd love to see a situation where the US would step in and help out. I think that he could probably take care of this rather quickly. Does the Armenians have enough support here to get the attention of the people they need to to step in and do something?
Starting point is 01:31:18 Because I could see one of the, this is one of those battles that if you don't have the US getting involved, I mean, this is gonna get bloodier, it's deadlier and go on and on and on, unless someone steps in, what do you think the end game is? I mean, can Armenia, can they defend themselves? I mean, do they have the ability over the long term
Starting point is 01:31:36 without some sort of assistance? I don't think so, not by themselves. No, because here's the thing, they need somebody to back them up. They 100% need somebody to back them up. Azerbaijan is twice the size, military budget, three times population-wise, and Turkey 100% has come out and said we're supporting them. No one has come out and say we are fully supporting Armenia like Turkey's supporting Azerbaijan. Here's what you need to know about militaries. You know
Starting point is 01:32:01 who's the strongest military in the Middle East? Turkey. Turkey number one. Above everybody. Exactly. So you got the biggest military back in you up what you need to know about militaries. You know who's the strongest military in the Middle East? Turkey. Turkey number one. Above everybody. Exactly. So you got the biggest military back in you up, you need somebody of a superpower to back you up. And Armenia hasn't had that yet. But I know for a fact, both the US and Russia can stop it, Armenia just went into a deal with China,
Starting point is 01:32:20 $15 billion investment going into Armenia. So US's Trump is probably not too comfortable with that. And the bigger concern for US is more Iran than it is anything else. Yeah. Now, I think the biggest thing that I'm seeing here is because, you know, you might have people being saying, well, what do I care about Armenia and Azerbaijan?
Starting point is 01:32:40 I've never even heard of Azerbaijan. Why is it, what happened in World War I? Did you really care about what happened in Hungary and Austria, Hungary and Serbia, but the potential for a powder keg is what scares me. This is right in the Middle East. If you don't know where Armenia is in Azerbaijan, it's just north of Iran, just south of Georgia,
Starting point is 01:33:00 which is bordering Russia, just east of Turkey, right? Can you pull up the map? Yeah, let's pull up a map. But the last thing that we need here is a powder cake to go off and the entanglement that's going on. I mean, you were trying to explain it.
Starting point is 01:33:15 You have Turkey supporting Azerbaijan. You have Iran that's playing on both sides. You have US here, then you have Russia that's kind of playing both sides. Israel has relations with Azerbaijan because they've sold them weapons and they have oil, but now you have people in Israel saying, we can't support these people, we can't do this. The biggest concern for me is this guy, Erdogan and Turkey. This guy is a strong man of strong men, okay?
Starting point is 01:33:38 And he's just trying to consolidate power and he's going to be the president of Turkey for quite some time. And the rhetoric that comes out of his mouth is actually crazy. And then you have the, how do you say it name? Ilham Aliyev, this guy. So I've looked at some of his quotes. These are the types of quotes. These are the types of, the way you have a tweet up, Kai.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Yeah. You have his tweet. I'm gonna read that. This is the type of thinking that is very, very dangerous. I'll wait for you to pull it out, okay. He says, Armenia is not even a colony. It is not even worthy of being a servant. This is a president of Azerbaijan, yeah? This is the type of mentality
Starting point is 01:34:16 that you can't even respect your bordering country. You can't even respect your fellow man. They're not even worthy of being a servant. This is like, this is like when you have the Iranian, the people that run Iran, what do you call them? Cheeks, what are the people who? The Mullahs, the Mullahs, who says like death to America, they are who less than rodents. Like, this type of talk, this type of mentality is very, very dangerous. Somebody needs to step in and whether it's United States, I don't know if it's Trump's responsibility or if this is Mike
Starting point is 01:34:50 Pompeo, Secretary of State. Somebody needs to step in and end this conflict before it gets out of hand and this powder cake explodes in the middle of the freaking craziest place on the planet, the Middle East. Can I ask you to accept it. Okay, I got to imagine the Armenians feel incredibly vulnerable and on an island. Like no one there to support them, right? Are they susceptible to China doing more? Could China see this as way to escalate tensions? Thinking about that just the other day, yes, they can see that's an opportunity for them to win loyalty right now.
Starting point is 01:35:22 That's why I see it, yeah. So my, exactly where you're going is a concern. Here's one thing you need to know about Armenians. Armenians, they're not going to back down. Period. If you go back to history, I'm half Armenian, half a Syrian. You know what's the debate on both sides? Which one's the first Christian?
Starting point is 01:35:37 Armenians say they're the first Christian, the Syrians say they're the first Christians. But historically, say Armenians are the first Christians. They are some of the proudest people you'll ever meet, okay? Smartest, proudest. The Silicon Valley of Russia is in Armenia. They are producing some of the best engineers. When we're hiring engineer firms and we want to hire folks to do coding for us, you're
Starting point is 01:36:01 going to get your best, the best that the best is going to be in Armenia for you today. And this is not just me telling you this, you can go around the nation and talk to people that you're hired to produce stuff for you. They're going to say, we have our engineers working for us from Armenia. They're building that kind of a reputation for themselves right now in Armenia. However, unfortunately, they are in a situation right now that they need allies. They need somebody to come in and help them out. And it has to be if US comes out and says, hey, Turkey, what are you doing defending Azerbaijan?
Starting point is 01:36:36 It is a form of defending the Armenian genocide. Erdogan has said if you come out and say Armenian genocide is an event that actually happened, we're going to go ahead and make sure whatever we can do to eliminate your three military bases that you have in Turkey. And Armenia, USS three military bases in Turkey, the most complicated personality is exactly who you said, is Erdogan. Listen, they can't stand Armenians.
Starting point is 01:37:03 They cannot stand Armenians to save their lives. If there is a nation that they cannot stand, it is Armenians. But if there is a nation that I can tell you from personal, no one in the history, you get fighters above fighters. They're not going to back down. There's no way in the world Armenians are going to back down. And you're starting to kind of see a glimpse of it all over the place. By the way, here's what's interesting.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Do you know what's the last time the two two then were in the same room together? Like negotiating? Right. Do you know ones that last time they were in the same room together? Type in, type in, E la Yev and Pasinian. It wasn't a long ago, wasn't it? No, it was a year, a year and a half ago. If you know how to pronounce, spell the name right there, type in, and then type in, Ali Yev. Look at that, just go down and that name will pop up. Can I just go down, that name will pop up. Okay, good. And then type in next to Pasinion.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Pasinion, January 19th, 20th, I think January 22nd, press images, images. Gen right there. That's January 22nd, 2019, they were at the Davos together, having a conversation, you're in a half-layer. Who is this right here? That's Eliyev and that's Paschiniyat.
Starting point is 01:38:15 That's Armenia, Prime Minister, and that's the president of Azerbaijan. A year ago, a year ago, you're in a half-a-go. There's sitting there having a conversation together. Okay, look at that. Can you tell how comfortable that is? Yeah. On the right is Armenia.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Armenia on the left is Azerbaijan. He looks exactly like Erdogan, by the way. By the way, here's the craziest thing. Check this out. His background, just so you know, little details. Pashini is background. He was a journalist, okay? The first company he came out with as a journalist,
Starting point is 01:38:43 you're later, they shut it down. Then he ended up working for Armenia Times for quite some time. And when he was writing, he came out publicly disagreeing with the way the military leader at the time was doing because of that he went to jail for one year. So he ended up going to jail, okay. He comes back, he's writing for a million times as he's going about his business, and he gets controversial.
Starting point is 01:39:09 He doesn't support the first president, he supports the second president. Eventually he ends up running, democracy, all this stuff. And the closest comparison I'm gonna make to him is Trump. Let me explain to you why. This will kind of make sense to you. So he's been interviewed by BBC. And the guy from guy from BBC asking he said the reporter from BBC asks then says Why is it that ever since you got elected?
Starting point is 01:39:31 There's so much protesting and writing going against you. He says because under democracy You can protest against me prior to me. You couldn't protest against the president I won't allow democracy so they're is okay. But why is it that when the, the, the, the, what do you call it? They're coming out and telling you that you cannot be us to back and forth. Here you go. He comes on and says, why is it that the UN General Assembly demands the immediate complete exit of all Armenian forces from the occupied territories of Republic of Azerbaijan? How can we have a listen to it? This is I'm not going to let Armenians being killed
Starting point is 01:40:05 okay what do you want to study want to see sit around this guy is a true believer of bringing democracy in our media then they bash them because of covid they said why is it that the number of cases you had as six times more than Georgia and way more than Azerbaijan every single criticism he's getting is the one that trump had every single more protesting Hey, you're getting more protesting more COVID. Hey, you're getting more COVID. You're not handling it well, right? Every single he went to a party that that was taking place During COVID and it was 600 people there and nobody was wearing a mask and everybody's like hey, wait a minute How come you didn't have a mask on it says because the region? I wasn't you didn't have to you didn't have to wear a mask
Starting point is 01:40:42 And on the complete opposite side Armenia since 1994 has opposite side, Armenia since 1994 has had four presidents. Armenia since 1994 has had four presidents. Do you know the same family has led Azerbaijan since 1994? Let me say this one more time. It's imperialism. Exactly. So you've got nepotism and imperialism. Essentially since 1994 Azerbaijan,
Starting point is 01:41:01 Armenia for presidents, democracy since 1994. People are choosing their leader. Azerbaijan, the people are not choosing their leader. So, Paschini has making the arguments and listen. The people voted me, but not an Azerbaijan. The families voted people in. So, what's this guy? So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:16 He's from the family lineage. You know, he comes from the family lineage and when you come in from the family lineage, you're almost like the same one coming up. And Aliyev. Aliyev, yes, Aliyevv and his arguments are a complete different argument. So listen, this is our land. What do you want us to do?
Starting point is 01:41:29 Leave our land. We own this land. And the land that is in question is Karabakh. Karabakh, yes. And for thousands of years, Armenia owned the land. But after Stalin in 1923, I think it's 1923, yeah, 1923. He said, no, we're going to make it over here to be controlled. But the Armenians can live that.
Starting point is 01:41:44 I think the population is 18% are minion by the way in God about 18% is Armenian yeah, it's not as big as you think, but it is about 18% Armenian I believe that's the only thing and this is something that I've learned and I got to give a shout out to my friend Tigran Beckian, we've had many conversations about Everything that's going on here something you know Something that's near and dear to me is obviously being Jewish, the Holocaust, right? In the 1940s, everything happened with Hitler and that is obviously the, what people,
Starting point is 01:42:14 the go-to story about genocide. That was World War II, but what people failed to realize is during World War I, right before that, there was an Armenian genocide on the hands of the Ottoman Empire, Turkey, which, correct me if I'm wrong, they fail to recognize. They won't even admit wrongdoing. This is something that Turkey will not own up to.
Starting point is 01:42:37 One thing that I respect about Germany is they've owned up to it. I mean, they have not taken down the concentration camps. They tell people to come visit. They will not allow Nazi symbols in Germany. They know that they messed up. Obviously, times a billion. What is it with Turkey that they won't even own up
Starting point is 01:42:54 to the fact that they've created this genocide of our many people? Well, then you're vulnerable to repeat history. Right? When you have the exact same beliefs, this is a comment that kind of relates to this. But I wish this would come up in the debates. But listen to the names that we've thrown out here in just this conversation.
Starting point is 01:43:09 China, Iran, Russia, Turkey, US, our biggest problem in the country, this country right now, and I wish they would address it in the debates is, we don't know who our enemies are. We think it's the Democrats for the Republicans or the Republicans for the Democrats. That's all we spend our time on with this bickering. And I just believe this division that we have in this country is being manufactured, you know, by these bigger superpowers. And if we get thrust into this thing, it's going to be big because when you look at all
Starting point is 01:43:40 the players that are involved and the area that it's in, and that's the biggest problem with this country is we just don't identify, we don't really truly know and identify who are real enemies are. Yeah, I don't know if we do that. Go ahead, sir. Go ahead. Why don't we do that right now? Who's number one on the straight line?
Starting point is 01:43:53 Let's stay on this, let's stay on this point here, because I do wanna answer your question because you asked and said, Armenian Germany came out and said, you know, hey, we did it, okay? But they paid a massive price for it. I think their last payment of reparations was just in 2018 or some number like that It's just recently they got them paying off for all the reparations and I talked to Arom Hanparian who works out of DC
Starting point is 01:44:13 Representing the Armenian community. Do you know what's the number? Armenia is gonna ask of Turkey if They say the genocide did take place trillion dollars. It's in the trillions of dollars This is very basic for them. They don't want to pay reparations Simple as that trillion is a big number. Okay. We're not talking about a small number here It's reparations when the genocide took place. There was a whole insurance scam going on behind closed doors of the Insurance the people that were dying their policies That's a whole different story that had to do with turkey wanting to get even more money on the insurance policies but this is a very very ugly thing that took place and
Starting point is 01:44:51 all it needs to happen is America needs to say it isn't even that took place Congress agreed to it Senate agreed to it it went all the way to up to a president president said no earlier this year and uh... it's it's uh... but again this year yeah this just said no it's either this year or is December but it's in less than twelve months so what happened with that unpacked that exactly what i just told you yeah turkey is an ally course if turkey becomes an enemy NATO you lose all control in the middle east so the only thing if trump comes out ob Obama said he'll do it, he didn't
Starting point is 01:45:25 do it when he came president. Every one of these guys said they're gonna do it, they haven't done it when they became president. No one's ever done it since they've been president. But all of them have said it. This is an event that happened to Wendy Arminian vote. No one said yes yet. But if Trump says yes, he wins the three million, whatever the amount of people that is gonna win over, right? he's going to lose turkey and turkey is a much more needed ally for him in the Middle East It's unfortunate, but that's how he's processing it It's not that it didn't happen But I can tell you one thing it's a money deal and turkey does not want to pay
Starting point is 01:45:58 The trillions of dollars that they're going to pay special in today's money and they may take them a hundred years to pay it off By the way, this is not like some reparations for Germany against the Jewish community. How long? For the world war one, 92 years. 92 years. World war one, though, that wasn't a. Yeah, but you're talking about Nazi Germany.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Yeah, in 1941. I found 92 years they paid off last one in 2010. OK, last one was paid 2010 2010 I mean that's changing for two economies Yeah, what paying and not receiving it exactly. So that's the party after realized with that going on so Anyways, folks if you're watching is what we're gonna be doing is I'll make an announcement here What's going on? I'll keep I know the Armenian community they message me all the time on Instagram all over the place I'm getting given text right now for some of my peers.
Starting point is 01:46:45 I want you to know we're in communication with their camp. You know, if my suggestion is a long form interview to be able to do with the Armenian PM, and they can reach out to us. I don't even, the Azerbaijan community has reached us in. What if Ali Ilya wants to do an interview with you, would you be open to it? I'm open to figuring out a way to stop this nine days so it doesn't continue to 10 days. Because I saw videos the other day,
Starting point is 01:47:09 my friend Steve sent me a video. Kai, do you have that video that I just sent you? Can you put it up just to kind of see, it's not the worst video. I almost thought about it, whether I wanted to show it or not. But some of the words he's saying, if Kai can get this, this is probably in Armenian,
Starting point is 01:47:29 it's the worst possible words you can be saying. Let's see if Kai can find it. Shout out to Steve while we pull up his clip. Steve, Steve Avetian. Yeah. Good boy. Shout out to Rafi's place if you're in LA go check that I checked this out. Look at this. This is Armenian soldiers turn that up guy
Starting point is 01:47:49 They're they're walking and they're seeing what the other by Johnny military did to their people By the way if you're Armenian you're listening you got kids you may not want your kids to listen to this the profaners pretty Were you waiting for us? Son of a... These are all bodies on the side by the way. This is what's going on right now. We're not seeing. These are all bodies on the side.
Starting point is 01:48:18 And this continues, by the way. If you want to pause it, you get the idea. It doesn't come down. Yeah, I mean, he just curses mother-odd for what they're doing. So that was the watch military. This is just Armenian military that is going seeing their soldiers killed, Armenian soldiers killed of what Azerbaijan did to them.
Starting point is 01:48:35 I mean, it's a very, the one Instagram, I'm gonna give a shout out to the Gulf follow, the population in Artsakh is 99% Armenia today. The lower numbers back when the, yes, that's right, the population in Artsakh is 99% Armenia today, back when it was to Azerbaijan, it was 18% Armenia, but today it's 99% Armenian, Artsakh, the community. Okay, that's the step that I saw. So let me give you a one Instagram profile, Zarton K media. If you can post these guys link below, I kind of want these guys to get some love because they're getting people to follow their
Starting point is 01:49:15 stories very closely and I'll give you another update as well with the stories for people to follow. Okay, so we're getting last six minutes, you're gank. This the most we've ever had on a podcast. We've never had any other number that's bigger than this, except for the debate. Outside of the debate, this is the first time we've cracked 3,000 people ever. I think the highest was 2700. We cracked 3,0119.
Starting point is 01:49:35 And I'm glad you're enjoying this. Listen, we're having fun with this as well. You're bringing us just as much energy as we're bringing to you. So believe it or not, your commentaries helping out your energies helping out. We're feeling it. There's a couple announcements. I want to make to you Let me make the first announcement that we've been working on here for quite some time. So With value taming as you guys can see this whole thing started off with a channel being called Patrick Byd David when we got to 40,000 subscribers. I decided to change it to value taming
Starting point is 01:50:00 I thought I came out with an original name come to find that I came and was a publicly traded company in Germany I got a contact with the CEO is name is Dirk I ask him for the domain I wanted to buy it. He said I'll give it to you for five hundred thousand dollars, but I'm a publicly traded company I said I just want you know we're building a company and I want that name he says I'm not gonna sell it to you for what you want But I give it to you for five hundred thousand dollars long story short three years later he changed his company name From value to value tees IE. Yes, so it's still there We end up buying the domain a couple years ago for a good number he changed his company name from value to value tees, IES. So it's still there. We end up buying the domain a couple of years ago for a good number, but definitely not
Starting point is 01:50:29 a half a million dollars. So we on Vitamins.com. And when we started Vitamins.com, it wasn't about Patrick Badebid. You have your own opinions. You come in your anti-Trump and you don't like what he does and you have certain opinions, but you're reasonable, you can talk and you don't seem like you're crazy. You're just kind of giving your opinions or experience where you're at. And great. You have your own show now you're reasonable, you can talk and you don't seem like you're crazy, you're just kind of giving your opinions or experience where you're at.
Starting point is 01:50:46 And great, you have your own show now of IITEM and Economics, you're doing great. People are loving your content. Every week shows coming out with you. Tom Zener now's been working with us now. I think it's what, four weeks, six weeks. I don't know the exact time line. I think it's about four weeks.
Starting point is 01:50:58 You've been on the podcast several times. People have had a new, you've had your background on what you've done with media. We got a team now, we're making videos, Daniel DeMartino, booth is not creating content. We got a team now we're making videos, Daniel D'Martino, booth is not creating content. We got a lot of other people that are coming along with the audience as well and we're constantly looking for new talent to bring on board.
Starting point is 01:51:11 That matches that value, Timmy, you got to bring value, but you got to be entertaining. You got to bring value, but you got to be entertaining. Daniel D'Martino value, but you got to be entertaining. You got to have that value, Timmy, DNA. The most recent addition that we're adding to value, which is very, very exciting. We've been very excited about this for a while.
Starting point is 01:51:28 We have officially made it, we finalized the agreement. General Spalding is the latest talent that we are adding to vitamin. General Spalding of the Air Force, that we did a few interviews, has experienced a living in China multiple times. And going there as a one-star general, he now officially has a show on vitamin a team called Generally Speaking, which will be conducting interviews and giving us
Starting point is 01:51:49 updates. And I can now wait for him because his background, I think he landed here already. I don't know if he's already at the office. Is he already here or not? If he can text Mari, he may be here right now. Him and Daniel are about to have a meeting to get at the office. But general spulding is officially gonna be a content creator on value attainment. We are very, very excited to have them on here with us, general spulding. So that's exciting to announce.
Starting point is 01:52:12 His show will be coming out here very soon. And outside of that, with general spulding, the other announcement I do wanna make to everybody is the fact that while this entire time, things have been going on, news has been shared. We decided to come out with our own news site. Kai, if you can give me the mouse and the keyboard so I can kind of show the folks.
Starting point is 01:52:32 If you want to go to the site, then I'll take over with the keyboard. We are officially this morning launching our own news site called vtpost.com. Let me say this one more time. We are launching a new site called vtpost.com, the go-to new site for busy people. And the reason why we came up with this is because, look, I don't have time when I'm running a company. I got all these different things I'm doing. I don't have time to sit there and watch news for two hours, three hours. I need news to be quick.
Starting point is 01:53:06 And if you're somebody that watches by Tim and you're probably somebody as well that doesn't have all the time in the world, VT post is built specifically for busy people. Okay, so it's gonna be slightly different. Our editor-in-chief is gonna be Tom Zener right here who's been in this world for quite some time. I think to, he said, what, 26 years, 25 years?
Starting point is 01:53:23 Yeah, 25 years. So long time that you've been with a lot of experience. And you get different kind of headlines. When you come here to the story, after circus like debate, Biden says he regrets clowning around. And you'll have headlines, you'll have business, you'll have politics, you'll have lifestyle,
Starting point is 01:53:37 you have entertainment, pop culture. I mean, it'll show you stuff. If you go to here, you know, houses you can rent, we'll have cigars, we'll have after hours enjoying life, ballers, sports, a lot of different things that you can come with a new site that you'll look at. It doesn't matter what interests you the most.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Whether you want to go see what's going on with sports, whether you want to see this house, that Geter and Brady own, that's on sale right now for $28 million. And details on that. Whether you want to find that updates on what's going on with Trump or maybe you wanna go see the top five stories today,
Starting point is 01:54:10 we have it all here for you on value-tamingvttpost.com. I think you wanna say something. Well Pat, thanks for the opportunity. And I think a lot of people are looking for something like this right now. And we've really spent a lot of time building this thing for the people that are busy. And you don't have a lot of time building this thing for the people that are busy. And you don't have a lot of time,
Starting point is 01:54:26 but once you come here, I think you're gonna spend some time here. Now we wanted to write our stories in a flashy way, but in a way that doesn't waste your time. 250 to 300 words, you get all the information you need and you move on. You're gonna know what's going on in the day, but we wanted to have our own personality,
Starting point is 01:54:41 our own edge and our own voice with this. So like if you go to ballers, that's going to be the category for pop culture sports and entertain, but we're not doing scores. No one cares about that. We're going to tell you about the brawl at the end of the football game. We're going to tell you about Chris Pratt being in trouble for what he put out on Instagram. And our news flashed. I want you to really pay attention to our headlines too, because we try to have some fun with
Starting point is 01:55:00 them. We try to draw you in. And there are plenty of new sites out there. We get bombarded with it all day. I think it's one of the biggest problems in this country is the gloom and doom factor. They're trying to scare the crap out of people 24-7. We don't do that.
Starting point is 01:55:14 We want to be fun. We want to be optimistic. But we also want to tell you what's going on in the world. We're not going to be biased. We're going to rely on common sense. And I think you're going to have some fun on this site. So come check it out today. Come every day.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Make sure you sign up for our newsletter and stay connected with us. Follow us on all the social media platforms that we have. And we're going to keep you updated. Yeah, that's going to be fun. And by the way, last but not least, here's a last but not least that I want to share with everybody that's watching as well.
Starting point is 01:55:39 We are looking for contributors. It's that simple. We are looking for contributors like this article here, written, artsuck right to self-determination held hostage by Azaria Expansionism, written by Von Dehrmager Ditchin, UCLA graduate, who's currently going to Columbia University for journalism. He writes, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:55:58 There's a timeline to it. And there's going to be updates on specifically what's going on with Armenia. But we are looking for contributors. And what we are doing with our contributors, just so everybody understands to apply for it, when you do apply to be a contributor and you write articles,
Starting point is 01:56:12 we will be sharing your articles on value-tamin, on Twitter, on our via team of Facebook page, on if the story's a good story and you have an audience as well, we'll put it on Instagram, but we're gonna give you a lot of exposures well for yourself and there'll be different levels. Anybody that writes 30 articles,
Starting point is 01:56:29 you'll get recognition on the homepage scroll. Anybody writes 25 articles, we're gonna give you recognition on VT Post video, specifically recognized in the new contributor that's written 25 contributors. Anyone that writes 100, you get a $25 on gift card and anyone that contributes 500 articles you'll be invited to exclusive VIP parties that will put together
Starting point is 01:56:48 with the value team and audience, you'll get a chance to meet a lot of different people. So if you want to apply to be a contributor, simply go to contributors on the site, go to apply. And then once you're able to get approved by the team, the team will respond back to recognize it, then your stories will be here by contributors on the homepage and people will be following your content as well. So having said that, two announcements,
Starting point is 01:57:11 general spawning, new talent on Vietamu. We're very excited about that and on top of that, VT post that we are launching today, if you haven't yet visited, vtpost.com, Kai, if we can put the link below, go to vtpost.com, Kai, if we can put the link below, go to VTpost.com, give us a visit, give us a shout out, and we'll give you daily news, 20 new stories every single day,
Starting point is 01:57:33 everything that is going on. Congratulations guys. Hey, thanks guys. You've been a great, great, great, great. It's great. Not even they're working on this, man. Not even they're working on this. But worth it now.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Yes, definitely, definitely. Again, by the way, he had a flat tire. But worth it now. Yes, definitely, definitely. Again, by the way, he had a flat tire. Everything was going against yesterday, but we are here. I literally flat tire on one of the morning last time. One o'clock in the morning we're texting, but we're here for launching.
Starting point is 01:57:52 And so, gang, thank you for being with us. Until next time today is what, Tuesday, I think we are doing it again this Thursday, next podcast, and we are thinking about, still thinking about doing a live on the next debate. If it does happen on the 15 15, we are listening to you. If you want to see it comment below and tell us yes. If you haven't subscribed, you have do so.
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