PBD Podcast - Trump Assassination, Stephen A. CALLS OUT Kamala & Mark Cuban Wants To Buy X | PBD Podcast | Ep. 472

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, Tom Ellsworth, and Vincent Oshana cover the second assassination attempt of Donald Trump by Ryan Wesley Routh, Mark Cuban's comments about buying X and FOX News, S...tephen A. Smith calling out Kamala Harris for hiding from the public, and an ABC employee turned whistleblower signs an affidavit claiming the Harris / Trump debate was rigged. ​​🧢 BOGO FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT HAT: https://bit.ly/3XuRBr7 📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3Zn2Moj⁠ 🏦 "THE VAULT 2024" RECORDING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ejazrr⁠⁠ 👕 VT "2024 ELECTION COLLECTION": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XD7Bsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XC5ftN⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ze3RUM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/47iOGGx⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4e0FgCe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3MGK5EE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📕 CHOOSE YOUR ENEMIES WISELY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XnEpo0⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4d5nYlU⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XC8L7k⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XjSSRK⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:01:22 You just got to stick around. And this is a song that I don't think many of you would be able to guess that we were practicing. This is one of Tom's all time favorite songs. He cries, he cries. Works out to this. It's, it's a, it's a part of his baby making music playlist that he has on his phone. But let's go through some of the stories. Let's go through some of the stories. Apparently there's this Cuban guy named Mark who wants to buy His name is Mark Cuban. He was not Cuban. It's a mark Cuban who wants to buy Fox News and X he said that yesterday He wants to buy Fox News and X and and the internet responded
Starting point is 00:01:57 I got a couple ideas on what companies they should consider buying but we'll have that conversation about him the shooter We have a lot of things to talk. We haven't done an emergency podcast yesterday. We were back to back. It was a Monday. It's impossible for us to find the time to go out there and do something. Bill Ackman puts a tweet with an open, this is a, can you go all the way to, we have to read this entire letter, Rob, if you can go a little lower. He writes an open letter to Bob Iger showing the contract that Kamala Harris signed with
Starting point is 00:02:24 ABC. And this person that the whistleblower is not even a Trump voter. showing the contract that Kamala Harris signed with ABC, and this person that the whistleblower is not even a Trump voter. Doesn't endorse Trump at all. It doesn't even endorse Trump. I mean, not even a little bit when you read this even further. We'll read through this here together in a minute.
Starting point is 00:02:39 This one of the sweetest, I don't know if you can, certain people can use this word with sweet, I think Hillary Clinton's one of the sweetest. She had a lot of things to say about what took place. We'll respond to that. One of the folks from the Libertarian Party said something about Kamala, that it's been going back and did you read that tweet or no about, you know, what an American hero could do?
Starting point is 00:03:00 Did you see that? Okay, anyways, maybe we'll react to that. Rob, have you seen that yet or no? Is this regarding the FBI showing up to the guys? Yeah, showing up and we'll show the clip on that part. It's the FBI but go ahead Yeah, if it's the FBI but we'll show that clip and then aside from that market-wise Tom and I were speaking last night and Tom said that even though all this time they were thinking that they're only gonna be doing a quarter of a point drop
Starting point is 00:03:24 there may be a surprise with quarter of a point drop, there may be a surprise with a half a point drop. So wait till you hear what Tom's got to say about that. We'll talk about that. And then, ready your bets, election gambling is going mainstream in the U.S. I want to show you guys a number on what happened in 2016. By the way, someone's phone keeps going off. If you guys can check your phone to see whose it is. It's not mine.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Then you got Stephen A. Smith comes out and says, it's not going to continue. It's not going to continue to work. Stephen A. Smith sounds alarm on Harris copying Biden's basement strategy. And then Harris's first solo interview, I don't know if you guys saw that or not, they were asking about the economy and her answer about the economy is a little bit, I don't even know what to say, weird. I don't know if you guys saw that or not they were asking about the economy and her answer about the economy is a little bit I don't even know what to say weird I don't odd odd is a very putting it peculiar Jamie Diamond warns of stagflation threat and then you have Gen Z's slang words banned in Florida classroom as teachers challenged students to be better well
Starting point is 00:04:22 let's see what those words are one of them is a word that I'd be kicked out of school if I used that word regularly. So stick around. Elon Musk's quest to make America great again. Wall Street Journal article about him. This next one here, some of you may wanna stand up when I'm reading this story to you. It's called the dead butt syndrome.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Could happen after sitting too long. I have it as we speak right now. For some of you guys that are sitting down, you may want to stand up for a quick second and give you a butter break. But better than flat butt syndrome, which is a whole nother. Yeah. Here's how to avoid this condition. And aging speeds up massively at two points in one's lifetime. Stanford study finds. And by the way, during the debate porn up decides to leak their data on what states a porn consumption dropped While the debate was taken do you see this or no so people stop watching people stopped watching porn up
Starting point is 00:05:14 And they got the data to show what states Dropped the most and what states were fully committed to keep watching porn even when the debate was taking place Why that you see this right? to keep watching porn, even when the debate was taking place. Did you see this or have you seen this or not? By the way, one of the states in the top five makes the most sense why it didn't drop, but we got to get into it. FYI, let me tell you guys this year on what's going to be happening, November 5th, just put it in your calendar.
Starting point is 00:05:35 You'll see why. I'll be able to have a confirmation on an answer this Friday. When I do, we may put the biggest election night event together outside of whatever Kamala and Trump is going to do. We're probably going to put the third biggest one there. You're going to want to be there. And it's going to be awesome. It's going to be wild.
Starting point is 00:05:52 It's going to be insane. It'll be a lot of fun, creativity, craziness. But here's the thing. To attend it, you're going to have to buy a ticket to go to it, obviously. The tickets are not going to be, you know, vault type of tickets where you're spending, you know, 15, 20, 25k. We're not talking that. It'll be lower amount tickets that we're doing.
Starting point is 00:06:08 However, a barrier to enter. When you come in, you have to wear Future Looks Bright gear. We want the room to be filled with people wearing Future Looks Bright gear. So for some of you that want to fly out November 5th, when I tell you what it is and the announcement is finalized, it's going to be crazy. If you don't yet own Future looks bright gear all you have to go get something guys we have we have a girl one of Adam's colleagues post a video about her wearing this red value team and she's walking around it's like
Starting point is 00:06:39 everybody's stopping her since you're also a value tanner you're also future I am it's it's amazing what's taking place. Vinny, yesterday, if you want to, do you want to share your story? I had a, I had surgery yesterday back at work, that's how we roll. I had a big cyst removed from my lower back and I'm in, you know, getting ready pre-op, all that needles are on my arm, I'm ready to go in. A Cuban guy eating a protein bar walks by, stops in his tracks and goes, mira, Vicente, bibi, pocket. And then he leaves, he grabs seven people, Tom. I'm surrounded by seven people, and all they're talking about is how glad and happy they are that what we're doing,
Starting point is 00:07:11 how amazing of a leader Pat is, and what America needs is what's happening right now. People were screaming, Future Looks Bright in the back, and then one Haitian lady looks at me and goes, I want you to tell Adam, thank you for sticking up for the Haitians, because not all of us eat cats. And I go, but some people do on Springfield. But no, but Pat, the movement, like a no joke.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And I wanted to address this to Pat, what you're doing, what you've started, what you've built. I can't even go, besides coffee, I'm nervous because I'm out there going, and I could die on an operating table. And I had a group of seven people around me talking about value tainment and your vision and what value tainment is doing. So Vinny, what was that story about? And by the way, yeah, he's like, oh, all of us are slackers, huh? Look, if you support what we do, which we appreciate, if you believe future looks bright,
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Starting point is 00:08:15 There's a bunch of new gear there as well. And if you wanna come to that party on November 5th, you gotta wear Future Looks bra. We're gonna make videos. It's gonna be sick. It's gonna be all over the place. Millions of views. It'll be a lot of fun. They have no idea. I don't think they know what the heck you're talking about. I can't tell them yet, but it'll be exciting when it gets finalized. Okay,
Starting point is 00:08:32 so let's get into one of the stories. By the way, don't worry. We're still gonna perform for you, but it's gonna happen naturally. Yeah, because that's how it's gotta happen. It's gonna happen naturally, organically, because that's how Tom likes it. So, all right, so let's go through a couple of stories. Rob, the first story I want to go with is the Mark Cuban story, okay? I think just out of respect to a guy who has done very well in his life financially, let's go to the story right there. So Fox News, this is all over the place. Mark Cuban says he would buy Fox News and X if he had an in.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Go up a little bit for me to read this time. I'm going to come to you first here. Mark Cuban says he would buy Fox News and X, formerly Twitter, but purchasing both media properties remains a distant possibility for the Shark Tank star. He told Wired Lauren Good that Fox News was too expensive and Elon Musk was unlikely to sell X as if Fox is worth more than X. The Shark Tank star Mark Cuban says he would buy Fox News and X if he could. Cuban expressed his interest in acquiring both media properties during a wide-ranging
Starting point is 00:09:35 interview that was published. If I had enough money to do it, which I don't, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Both of them. So he knows, by the way, I mean my generation was sex, drugs and rock and roll. I never thought they would be the Fox News generation, Cuban told New York Times. People I knew were smoking pot, listening to Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young and protest songs. The idea that those are the people condemning Black Lives Matter and watching Fox News and
Starting point is 00:10:02 droves, it's upsetting to me. You have no idea. But Cuban said Fox News would be far too expensive of an investment. Should it even come up on the market, he estimates a net acquisition of about $15-20 billion. I don't have $15-20 billion in cash sitting around. Getting X is also a distant possibility. I wish I could. There's no reason for him to sell it.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Anyway, so Tom, when you hear this, what's he doing here? Is he trying to get eyeballs or is he being intentional? Is he just being straight up? Tom Hanks This is a poke at Elon. Mark Cuban is attempting to get attention and to inject himself into as many conversations as he can. And I love his answer here. You know, I was around in college when people were smoking pot and listening to Crosby, Sills, and Nash. OK. And now they're watching Fox News and everything.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Oh, so Mark, so it bothers you when people grow up and mature and are worried about crime, taxes, and immigration. I'm sorry, Mark. It worries that these people grow up and take a new viewpoint and find a channel that they that they like that is covering the news without without bias on topics they like. So he's injecting himself into this.
Starting point is 00:11:11 But I think he got to look at some of his statements because the reflection is not there. So you would buy. So look, let me see if I understand this. You would buy Fox News to destroy the ratings by changing the programming. Well, that's fine. That is sort of the liberal playbook. That's what happened. This was as love did the CNN.
Starting point is 00:11:29 He bought something destroyed the ratings. So Cuban is looking for attention. It was a boring day and he goes in with this and then, oh, I would buy X. What would you do if you bought X? Oh, you would turn it back. You'd turn it back into something else. So if you don't like what they're saying saying you buy them and shut them down or change them
Starting point is 00:11:48 That's not a very good look for mark Vinny. I don't know I think From from the video that we saw last week Pat about him with Trump I think Tom just nailed it anything to be in the news anything to be relevant I mean think about it Trump another assassination attempt on Trump and then out comes Mark Cuban talking about, I want to buy this and buy that. He's even saying he doesn't have the money. Yeah, I don't have the money, but I would. It's like, it's like he needs to just go away. I think you know what this is, man, having too much money and you have nothing to do.
Starting point is 00:12:14 He has nothing to do with it. And I get what you said. I know we talked about him potentially having a run, which you know what, if he wasn't so like left-sided and kind of going, you know, TDS, that'd be someone that I would actually consider. But this type of mentality, this type of like, you know, TDS brain, I don't even know how to call it, deformation. I don't, I'm not a fan of that. Although I think he's suffering more from EDS. What's that? Elon. Oh yeah. Is it more TDS or is it more EDS? I think with a Cuban, it's more EDS because Elon's ahead of him. Mark Cuban's very competitive. Elon's way ahead of him. That probably bothers him, bothers him a lot once he get into the stage,
Starting point is 00:12:50 thinking about running. And ahead of him. Yeah. Well, you can't catch him though. Elon, but Pat, Elon's literally a rocket ship. Like he's a rocket ship. Literally. Literally. You're not going to catch that dude, but like stay in your lane. I just think, um, Cuban is, you know how you talk about phases of life. We all have seasons of life. It's from zero to 20. Just don't mess it up.
Starting point is 00:13:08 20 to 40, go make your money. 40 to 60, work on your purpose. And then 60 plus, leave a legacy, give back everything with that. I think he's sort of on the tail end of three entering four. Just look at the last 20, 25 years of Mark Cuban's life. He bought the Mavericks in 2000 for $280 million. Okay. They're now valued at three and a half billion dollars. Clearly the guy did well on his investment. He sold a large portion of it to Miriam Adelson, the late widow of Sheldon Adelson, the multi-billion dollar magnet out
Starting point is 00:13:47 there in Vegas, the casino guy. I don't know exact percentage of what he sold to the Mavericks. I think he's still the controlling owner. I don't know the exact number, but he was the main guy and now there seems to be some partnership there. But Mark is worth $6 billion. He's looking at the landscape. Is this what it
Starting point is 00:14:05 is? 27%. Cuban retains 26%. So he's not even the controlling managing partner of the Mavix right there. What's my point? This is his last season on Shark Tank. No, no, he remains in charge of basketball operations. So control of the basketball operations. Okay. So he remains control, but he still retains 27%. He's just not a majority owner. Gotcha. Gotcha. He's the managing a majority owner. Gotcha. Gotcha. He's still running. He's a managing partner, but doesn't know control.
Starting point is 00:14:27 But I think this is the last season that he's doing Shark Tank. He came out and announced this is, I think the 16th season, I want to say, of Shark Tank. He's saying, this is my last one. Here it is. He's announced at his podcast last week that he will leave Shark Tank after this. He has a podcast. Exactly. On a podcast. On a podcast. So my point is this, we've talked about Cuban a bunch of times over the last few
Starting point is 00:14:49 weeks, months, what have you, he's clearly looking for his next venture. Yeah. It's no longer going to be Shark Tank. He's probably not going to focus on the Mavericks and he's clearly trying to go the media political route. And I just, I think he's sort of a man without a home. Cause I, like, and I said, a white billionaire is not exactly the archetype of the current democratic. So here's what I would say.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Couple things about, about Mark. There's levels in every game. I have money. I don't have Mark type of money. Mark has money. Mark doesn't have a Musk type of money. It's a very different type of money. Mark's worth five billion, right?
Starting point is 00:15:22 You know, Elon's worth 250 billion. You know, one can buy a sports team, the other one can buy a small country. These are two different levels of wealth we're talking about, right, on what's going on. So that's frustrating. The part that I think with Mark is, you know what is one of the most annoying things in life that only you go through? Is, you ever hear me talk about ambitious yet lazy? You hear ambitious and lazy?
Starting point is 00:15:49 I think Mark sits there and says, I put 20 years into the math, right? He's owned the math for how long, 20 years? Mark's a smart guy, okay, Mark's a smart guy. But Mark bought a team at what age? How old was Mark when Mark's a smart guy, but Mark bought a team at what age? How old was Mark when Mark bought a sports team? He's probably in his early 40s because he's what, 65 now? How old is Mark? But Mark bought a sports team. Mark is how old right now? He's 66. When did he buy the
Starting point is 00:16:15 Mavs? Did he buy them? 2000? So he's 42. So 42. So he bought the Mavs at 40. It is a beast move. However, however, there's a big difference. There's a big difference. He bought the MAFs to operate it on a daily basis. Okay? When you do that, you are going to make some money. But to make the kind of money that's 100x, 200x, 300x, that's what you have to run a business like a Tesla. You have to start it. It's a startup. It's all of that stuff. He didn't do that. He could have done that. He didn't choose to do that. He chose to take his money from Yahoo and then after Yahoo lost all their money that
Starting point is 00:16:49 they gave to him, that business was worth not much based on what you read about, you know, and yeah, zero. It was worth, can you imagine they give him the money that they gave him six months later, they park it. The business is gone. Nothing. So he wants to compete with two guys and he missed the mark. Now, again, he's 66.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Trump ran for president in 2016 and won. That's only eight years ago. He was 70 years old. Mark Cuban's gonna be 70 in four years. He is one of the leading candidates that I think is gonna run for office in 2028. And by the way, when the interview comes out with The Rock, which is coming out tomorrow, by the way, the whole interview comes out with The Rock, which is coming out tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:17:25 by the way, the whole interview is going to come out at The Rock tomorrow, and you guys will see the conversation about it. It's going to be very, very, one question I asked The Rock about his audience, I think Mark would need to ask the same question about it as well, but that comes out tomorrow. I think Mark's Cuban wiring and values and principles would be more of a fit for him to buy CNN and TikTok over buying X and Fox because CNN and TikTok are more about controlling speech and propaganda and things like that. And he would do well in an environment like that.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yeah, I think that's his play. What was your specific comment on being ambitious and lazy? He's not as he's not the kind of a worker that Musk is. He's not. Musk is different. Okay, Musk is different He's not at Musk's level of work ethic. He's not he's more the entertainer Okay, and a level of intelligence that Musk has is is just different Look, you can be upset and sit there and say whatever you wanna say, that guy's worth a quarter billion, you're worth five billion, okay? It's 50X. Anyways, again, let's go to the next story here,
Starting point is 00:18:31 leading story, which we haven't talked about yet, the assassination attempt on President Trump. Another one that's two in two months, I think Vinny's tweet was the best tweet that said, look at the trend with the dates, if you wanna go to it, where it's like, hey, on this date, you know, 16 days later, they do this.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah, if you can just go to- It's a little bit down, Rob. Go to- Keep going, Robby. Keep going, keep going. That was weird. Right there, Rob. Okay, watch this. So on June 27th, Trump destroyed Biden in a debate.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I mean, it wasn't even like, Biden didn't even show up, right? Yes. 16 days later, there's an assassination attempt on his life. September 10th, Trump debates Kamala. Five days after the debate, an ABC whistleblower's affidavit is released showing that ABC colluded with Kamala's campaign, proving illegal collusion. On September 15th, five days later, there's an assassination attempt.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Is anyone noticing a trend? It's a very good question Vinny's asking here, right, that we have to be answering. So let me do this. Let me give you some of the fact sheet and let's kind of talk about it openly with all of us. I'll open it up to you guys here. So Rob, can you go to vtnews.ai and just go to the AI and ask the question what we know about the shooter while I'm reading this fact sheet.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So number one, yeah, just go to it and say what do we know about the shooter, Trump shooter, let's see what comes up. Yeah, go up a little bit, go up a little bit, there you go, the other way for the ant, no, the right way you were going, yeah. Okay, so Trump shooter, could you please, yeah, maybe you have to ask specific questions about the shooter in. Yeah, Ryan Routh.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah, what do you know about the shooter, Ryan, yeah, put the name out there. Ryan Routh, yeah, there we go. Okay, let? Yeah, put the name out there. Ryan Routh. Yeah, there we go. Okay, let's see what he says here to us. Ryan, a 58 year old man was arrested, allegedly attempting to assassinate former President Trump while Trump was golfing in Florida.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Here's some key details. He self-published a book titled, Ukraine's Unwinnable War. On Amazon, and guess what zero reviews And I tried to write a review and it says Amazon has stopped the reviewing process in which he expressed negative views about Trump calling him a Buffoon in his book route suggested that Iran should assassinate Trump and himself for voting for Trump what? Routes book which sells for 299 on, contains graphic content and discusses various global issues.
Starting point is 00:20:45 He has a criminal history and has made small donations to the Democratic Party. Rout's social media presence reveals a history of activism, including efforts to recruit fighters for Ukraine against Russia. He traveled to Ukraine following the Russian invasion and called for U.S. military personnel to join the fight there. He made 19 contributions totaling $140 to Act Blue, indicating support for Democratic Party. His social media activity included over 500 posts on X, showcasing a wide range of political
Starting point is 00:21:14 views and including support for figures like Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard. Interesting. The Secret Service intervened in Rout's appearance assassination attempt leading to it. It's important to note that the situation was described as an attempted assassination and that Secret Service successfully prevented it. Okay, let me read this here. Location of the attempt was at the Trump International Golf Club, and the suspect was positioned near a fence roughly 300-500 yards away.
Starting point is 00:21:38 We know that. Timeline. It took place early afternoon with authorities alerted around 1.30 pm when a man with a rifle was spotted near the golf course. Suspect's background, we just read it on what he said. He was a convicted felon who had recently returned from Ukraine. Authorities are investigating as possible. Political motivations, we'll find out more about that.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Weapon AK-47 style rifle, equipped with a scope and with firearm serial number, had been obliterated, rendering it untraceable. The rifle was found fully loaded, suggesting premeditation. Cellphone data. Investigators used ROT cell phone data to trace his movements. His phone records indicated that he had been lingering the area for 12 hours, starting 1.59 a.m. in the morning till 1.31. Secret Service responds, by firing at the suspect when they spotted him along the perimeter
Starting point is 00:22:27 of the golf course, despite shots being exchanged, there were no reported injuries. Items recovered, additional to the rifle, backpack and aid with a GoPro camera, which was likely intended to record the attack. Okay, great. Chase and arrest. He fled the scene in a vehicle and the law enforcement pursued him on Interstate 95 where he was eventually apprehended. He is currently being held without bail. Charges, two federal gun charges, boom. Prior assassination attempt, we talked about that. That we have a suspect lone actor, he's a lone
Starting point is 00:22:58 actor. Political and security repercussions, we kind of talked about that. Rots legal repercussions, We talked about vehicle identification, identified traffic camera footage, aiding law enforcement and tracing him down. He had left. Okay, federal involvement, FBI's leading the investigation, golf course security, political climate. Okay, so Tom, you hear a story like this. This happens exactly, give or take, 60 days later. Is this him, Rob? Is this him being interviewed? This is, yes, the shooter was interviewed. This is while he's in Ukraine, explaining why he's in Ukraine and what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Okay, let's see what he has to say and how he talks. Tell me, who you are and why are you here? 56, from the US, from North Carolina. Originally, I still live in Hawaii now, so through all the way from Hawaii here. So the question as far as why I'm here to me you know a lot of the other conflicts are gray but this conflict is definitely black and white this is about good versus evil this is a storybook you know any movie we ever watched this is definitely evil against good I mean we're battling a situation here where, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:06 the Ukrainians and the rest of the world are caring and kind and generous and unselfish and take care of one another. Brainwash. It's just a matter of- Okay, you can stop that. Tom, your thoughts on the story here, what happened? So, somewhere between, you know, abject surveillance and no knock, you know, searches and guys like this, you know, it's not that guns need to be registered.
Starting point is 00:24:38 It's that a guy like this with a criminal history like this, why is he still walking around? This isn't this isn't a guy who has robbed 10 7-elevens and is poor and destitute and keeps robbing $200 from a 7-eleven. This guy has an active history basically saying, I have a screw loose and I would like to assassinate someone. And I am traveling to the Ukraine trying to recruit people for a war. Now he comes back here. They're able to monitor. He was on a list, a watch list of some sort, but nobody did anything about it. And so the shocking, the shocking thing to me is why is this guy walking around? I mean, how many times is he arrested? Robbie have that? I, I, did I see 72 individual arrests
Starting point is 00:25:28 and detainments? Is that the amount? Yeah. How many times is he arrested? I'm taking a look now and looking. Yeah. It's just, it's crazy. Was that AI Robin checked out? So Pat, it's just nuts that the guy with this history is still walking around. Number one and number two separate, you know, the secret service in the midst of all this, we're trying to figure out about this guy. There's a quiet little voice in the middle of the fog and it said, Oh, we've always said golf courses are really difficult places for the president.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Really just two months after you had the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, now you're saying, oh, we always knew it was difficult. Well, if you always knew it was difficult, why weren't you taking extra care right now? The dialogue hasn't gotten hot enough for the secret service to be taking extra care. You know, when he plays golf at a place with his name on it, come on guys, right? You, you know when he plays golf at a place with his name on it come on guys right you you know better perimeter that I play a lot of golf and been to a lot of places the perimeter fences these golf courses is not hard to secure and patrol not hard at all and so the little voice in the middle of this oh we've
Starting point is 00:26:40 always said it's hard to secure the perimeter so it's a Secret Service giving itself an excuse and an out in the middle of the fog of the reporting where we find out that this complete loon is still allowed to walk around. Those two things really piss me off. Vinny. Okay. Excuse me, I want to be hydrated for this for this ramp here. But let's take a step back to my tweet, Pat, that you helped me.
Starting point is 00:27:04 The debate, The debate happens. Everybody, dude, remember, for the past how many years, Kamala hasn't been able to speak. She talks like she's talking to four-year-olds. She talks about time and time. Then all of a sudden she comes onto the debate and she's somebody completely different. We talked about maybe the earring, maybe this, maybe whatever. She looks fantastic and all the questions and all the rumors of cheating started happening. And then the day that this happens, there's the affidavit from ABC, the guy that was working there for 10 years that said they cheated, period, called election interference,
Starting point is 00:27:34 whatever you want to call it, I'm going to call it cheating. So that comes out. Then the assassination attempt happens. And by the way, this guy with his footprint that you just said, Tom, all over the internet, they're not going after people like that. They're going after people that are posting memes or stuff on online about Joe Biden. I think Rob has that video for LabourPBD. But let's not forget, this debate is 48 days from now. Pat, you've always been, you've said this from the beginning. They're not going to stop. Okay. They're not going to stop. I think there's going to be another attempt. I want to ask you guys what you guys think And here's my question Pat and again, don't I don't want people to take this the wrong way the left
Starting point is 00:28:11 Gets away with literal murder. They have been going after this guy since 2016 Over and over from the law fair from everything and nothing's happening. What is our side doing? I'm not saying go in the street or try to do anything crazy, but where's the anger? They tried to go after our guy again and nobody's doing anything. What if, Pat, I'm being dead serious, what if they tried to do this to Barack Obama? What would the United States look like right now if they literally tried to shoot Barack Obama twice? Well, you know what would happen and that's simply because who owns the media is going
Starting point is 00:28:44 to dictate what direction this media is going to dictate what direction this story is going to go with. By the way, watch this. So Musk tweets something. I don't know if you guys saw this or not. Rob, if you want to find it, I'll tell you what it is and you can go look for it. He says, you know, why are they trying to kill Trump? Some guy asks Elon. Elon retweets or responds to the guy and he says, and no one wants to kill Kamala and Biden. Right? He asked that question. So immediately the left jumps on Elon saying he's inciting violence. Right? He's inside. No one is trying to assassinate Biden and Kamala. So here's what's going to happen here. This is my opinion. By the way, the guy from the Libertarian Party, Rob, if you have that, I don't know if you
Starting point is 00:29:27 have a tweet of what this guy said, if you have it, do you have it? Do you know which one I'm talking about? Yes, let me pull that up. Yeah, and then you have to watch this two-minute video, and I'm going to give you my opinion on what I think is about to happen. And we have to be very, very, okay, isn't this guy trying to, is this weird? This is the guy that the FBI went to his house. Yeah, it's weird that no one ever tries to assassinate the actual president.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Isn't that the guy in charge of everything? That's not the tweet. That's not the tweet. That's not the tweet. He put something, Rob. With Joe Biden on it? Oh guys, I'm going to tell you what he puts on the tweet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And for the FBI to show up to his doorstep. So Rob, I just send it to you. If you can receive it, I don't know if you're seeing it, I'm sending it to your text. Are you seeing it, Robert? No, okay. Pull that up. This is the tweet.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And it comes from, I believe, from the main Libertarian Party account from New Hampshire. Okay? Which, you know, you guys know, I'm, I, some, many of the libertarian ideas I'm fully supportive of. I think what they, there's a part of me that is, relates to a libertarian. So here's what he says, Sarah Bella says, I disagree with the assault weapon ban, Vinny, but maybe save the threatening rhetoric.
Starting point is 00:30:42 He responds, anyone who murders Kamala Harris will be an American hero. Okay? Jesus. Exactly. So then, by the way, a lot of famous influencers retweeted and said this is freedom of speech and part of America who can say this. So then the FBI shows up to this front door. Rob, if you want to play this clip on what happens here.
Starting point is 00:31:02 So and by the way, this is all all gonna come back to the assassination attempt on Trump because Trump even did an interview yesterday. This is FBI, we think they're the FBI, showing up to his doorstep, go on and play this clip, Rob. Hey, how can I help you? After decades of shaky hands caused by debilitating tremors, Sunnybrook was the only hospital in Canada who could provide Andy with something special.
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Starting point is 00:31:46 special. I don't think that these guys are FBI, but watch. Yeah. How are you? How are you? I'm Major O'Donnell with the FBI. Can you give your full name please? Is that sufficient to identify as the only one O'Donnell affiliated with the FBI? Could you please state your full name sir? Could you please stop recording? Nope. It's the First Amendment right.
Starting point is 00:32:15 What's your name sir? Krasenstein's cousin. Could you stop recording please? Absolutely not. You can show me your name and identification or I'm going to go back inside the house. This guy seems like he knows what he's doing. He's been arrested before This is going out right after you guys walk away. Yeah, so you can show me your name ID you can walk away
Starting point is 00:32:35 I'm not gonna talk to people who claim to federal agents unless they can show me identification Yeah a bag I need to see that is your full name on that badge No, I'd like to see something with your full name. I'm not going to talk to you This will be going online as soon as you walk away And he did by the way, I love it Well, I want to talk to you about you guys coming here Say you make a salary of, I don't know, what? Low 100K?
Starting point is 00:33:07 You guys making six figures? 50% taxes. Factor in 50% expenses, overhead, maybe 100% expenses. Talking about burning a couple hundred dollars an hour just here, let alone all the time you guys are spending, to investigate something that you know is not against the law. Right? You're familiar with it.
Starting point is 00:33:24 So then why would you come? Because we just wanted to make sure that there know is not against the law, right? Like you're familiar with it. So then why would you come? Because we want to make sure that there weren't any... No, you're coming because you're part of a regime that does this kind of thing when you know laws aren't being broken. And that's an embarrassment, man. Didn't you guys read the Constitution? Do you not believe in America? Like how do you do your jobs and go home?
Starting point is 00:33:42 We appreciate it. You're walking away. Because nothing we did is against the law. Like how do you do your jobs and go home? We appreciate it. Yeah. You're walking away. Because nothing we did is against the law and you guys are fuckheads that try to act like bullies. And I hope you go home and are embarrassed. You can't even say your name on camera because you know that what you're doing is embarrassing. You know Americans that believe in the Constitution think you're laughable.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And you go home and you think about what you did today. Go home and think about it. cowards. I love drive away Okay, so It's the same guy that did the tweet from apparently libertarian, New Hampshire So one how do you feel about the tweet to the response? Tom so all the way and so people know that back in early 2000s, 2000, 2006, I was involved in video games on the mobile side. Do you know there's laws that prevent you from like, at the time there was the early
Starting point is 00:34:38 versions of a game called Grand Theft Auto. Tremendous amount of, you know, murder and mayhem happen in that game. You know what you cannot do in a video game by law? Hunt, threaten, or kill the president. You cannot depict a character in a video game or make part of the video game that my character can go kill the president. You can't do that. It's not legal. And so there are laws out there about threats, specifically threatening the president, and there are laws out there about depicting his murder.
Starting point is 00:35:11 What's interesting here is I don't know why the FBI, with all that there, they could have told the guy, we'd like you to come from us. But what they don't want, what they don't want is the wrongful arrest suits. That's what they don't want, what they don't want is the wrongful arrest suits. That's what they don't want. And so they sent two guys out with a clipboard to basically attempt to ask questions in such a way that he would permit them to sit down and conduct an interview without any sort of a warrant or permission to enter the premises.
Starting point is 00:35:42 The guy may be a loon, but he actually did the right thing saying excuse me Can you identify yourself all imagine? Here's your badge? I could buy a badge and a fake gun, too Where is your identification? He's got federal identification He just didn't want to show it which leads him to believe is that even his name or is that the street name? He uses because most federal agents that conduct things use street names as well as their real names. And so just doesn't want to do it. So let me ask you, you said two different things. I just went online right now and typed in whether in a video game you can kill somebody
Starting point is 00:36:14 and a com- President? Yeah, killer president. Came up with games that let you assassinate high profile targets like presidents, okay? Don't verify. I don't play video games, so I couldn't tell you if this is true or not, but this is what came up. The Assassin's Creed game, okay?
Starting point is 00:36:31 You often assassinate people of importance, in one you assassinate the Pope, okay? Dishonored, okay? And the other one is called the Elder Scrolls game, and the Hitman series, Mark of the Ninja, right? These are some of the video games, and I went to the Hitman series Mark of the Ninja, right? These are some of the video games and I went to the Hitman blood money. I don't know if you caught tapping Hitman blood money. Well, hit me from oh six.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Apparently here this guy in this movie in this video game, you get to kill a vice president or something, right? So you're saying this time, okay? And say that's true. And I hope it's true. You can't put the true character of the vice president. You can't put the- Oh, you can put a fake vice president to kill a fake, but not the real character in there.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Okay, but still, okay. So as the US president was planning to go realize cloning, the franchise was hired to assassinate him so that their puppet, the US vice president, would replace him. 47 found himself hired by a CIA agent whom he rescued and is this serious? Well this is the plot of the game. No I get that but I'm saying is this serious that in the plot of the game 47 found himself hired by CIA agent? Currently we're on 47.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Okay by the way let me go back to this. Number one, is there anything wrong with his tweet Tom? His tweet? Can I see the tweet again one more time please? is number one that is there anything wrong with his tweet Tom his tweet can I see the tweet again one more time please Vinny I'm gonna come to you anyone who murders Kamala Harris will be an American hero it's on the edge because he's not asking for it he's like anyone who does this would be an American hero so it's not comfortable with this this is bad this is not good I you know I am surprised what I'm saying is I'm not comfortable with this. This is bad. This is not good. You know, I am surprised. What I'm saying is I'm surprised that the FBI went with the, you know, the soft approach
Starting point is 00:38:10 trying to get a citizen to agree to sit down for an interview. Why not? If you do something like this, you can be arrested. And Rob has a video I sent PBD of, because Trump posted all the left's rhetoric against him because the left has been trying to blame him for his own assassination attempt. I 100% agree. Okay, and PBD, this, this, as bad as it is, he's not calling for actual violence. And I'm sorry, if you believe in the First Amendment, he didn't, he was, he is walking on the edge.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I wouldn't post something like that. But then going to them, identifying, you have to identify yourself, even if a cop or anybody they're recording. Sure. These are two different questions. Yeah. Isolate each. Even if a cop or anybody they're recording. Sure, these are two different questions. Isolate each. I think that one. Let's isolate each. Yes. Go to the first one. The tweet? Bad, but not illegal. I wouldn't do so. You're right. It's not illegal. I don't like it. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you the second question. Yes. So you would never tweet someone. Never. Okay. So if you're running Twitter, your name is Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:39:05 What do you do with this tweet? If he wants to be the platform of free speech, he can't do it unless he's actually calling for violence and saying somebody go do it or I want to do it. That's a slippery slope. If it was my platform, I would leave it there. Freedom of speech. But I would say, you know, you're probably going to get a visit, dude, you're probably going to get more than a visit. Adam. Yeah. I would want to visit that day. Yeah. I totally understand free speech and being a free speech absolutist. But the slippery slope is when you actually try to incite violence or, you know, the whole hate speech thing is where do you draw the line on that? This to me is you're crossing the line.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Okay. You're using one word called murder. Yeah. Knock knock. Mother. But and then Rob has a few people who want to see it. The amount of stuff that's along that line right there was said out of the mouth of mainstream media and Hillary Clinton, everybody.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Rob has a clip. Where was the FBI going to their house? And I don't see this. No, this says anyone, anyone who. Where was the FBI going to their house? And I don't even see those clips. I like that. I like that. That's isolating. This says, anyone who murders. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Go back to it. Let's read it specifically. Anyone who murders. This is specific. No. Specific. Edifying a person who does the job as a hero. That's what this is doing.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Now go play the other clip that you're talking about, Rob. Okay. If you can play that clip. So I think I've seen that as well Go ahead and play this clip if you had to be stuck in an elevator with either President Trump Mike Pence or Jeff Sessions Who would it be? Does one of us have to come out alive Always asked me don't I wish I were debating you know, I wish you were in high school, I could take him behind the gym.
Starting point is 00:40:46 That's what I wish. I said, no, I said if we're in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him. I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country, maybe there will be. That you cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about.
Starting point is 00:41:05 If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome. You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives. Enemies of the state. Prison worker, how do you resist the temptation to run up and ring her neck?
Starting point is 00:41:31 They go low, we kick them. Please, get up in the face of some Congress people. Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. Okay, so there it is. Okay, PBD, last one, Mahleta, he has, so Rick Wilson said this, but Rob, you have this one, right? He's the founder of Intrepid Media. This is what he says.
Starting point is 00:41:56 This is the one that you're talking about. I just like that you- He was a Lincoln Project guy with your guys. Rick Wilson says, like he literally says, like, calls to put a bullet in Donald Trump and nothing has happened to this guy. I'll play that one second I want to play this this came out Saturday right before the assassination attempt So it's all timing and this is Rick Wilson the same guy are talking about Here's a clip of him talking about how Donald Trump wants to get somebody murdered Oh about the real-life impact of running amok with insane lies like the ones they're spreading in Springfield
Starting point is 00:42:23 real life impact of running amok with insane lies like the ones they're spreading in Springfield. I'm going to be very blunt. I think Trump wants someone to be killed. I think they want this violence to escalate. I think they want to then say these migrants have caused the violence. They brought this on themselves. Look at our cities on fire because the of these terrible people from faraway lands who happen to be dark skin.
Starting point is 00:42:49 This is a racist playbook that goes back well before Hitler. This goes well. And let me grab the other ones. Mind you, I completely forgot. I have very strong opinions here. If you want, if you want to play that other clip and then go to it. Yeah, this one right here. This is him. No, the one before underneath.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah, there it is. Listen to this guy. Same guy. Same guy. Just heard saying it is. Listen to this guy. Same guy Same guy. Just heard saying that Donald Trump wants to get some yes Yes, and the donor class can't just sit back on the sidelines and say oh, well, don't worry This will all work itself out. They're still gonna have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump Like okay. They're gonna have to go so that rhetoric because it's coming from one side MSNBC That's on MSNBC So so let me tell you what we're
Starting point is 00:43:32 Floating with here. This is how long go rap that last one you put the last one We'll send was to take a look. I'm not sure the couple years ago PBD Okay, so this is what we're floating with right now if because there is a faction of people in America that want to see some countries separate themselves from others. Yesterday, this guy comes and interviews me on his podcast and his show. And he talks to me about all this. I said, listen, if I built my own, if we ran our own country, which was a hypothetical
Starting point is 00:44:01 question he's asking, I said, the way you would vote in my country, you would have to earn the right to vote. Now, obviously, until that day, that's a hypothetical conversation that's being had, right? It's not like a real thing where we get to run a country and create our own standards, where you gotta contribute to be able to do that, which people that don't wanna contribute,
Starting point is 00:44:17 you wouldn't like our country and go for it. So I actually understand the people that want to see certain states leave the, what do you call it, the union, leave, like say, Texas go its own country. I understand the argument that people are making. I get it. I fully understand. If that's what you want to see happen, if you want to see a full on that taking place,
Starting point is 00:44:43 if that's what you want, yeah, you need a lot of posts like this. But let me tell you what's going to happen here. Okay? And I'm at it. It's inevitable that this is about to take place. Do you remember, you know, I've had God knows how many people are on the rap side because I've always been fascinated with hip hop rap. I was a big Tupac guy. What happened? Who got killed first? Okay, who got killed first? Tupac or Biggie? Oh great question. Was it Tupac first? Tupac got killed first. Okay, and after what? After what hit song that came up? Hit them up. California. Yeah. You know. About New York. Chino XL. Yeah. You know, by the way, he just passed away. Yeah. So all these, all the rest in peace, all these guys that they're talking about hit them
Starting point is 00:45:25 up and boom and boom back and forth back and forth back and forth. Then what happened? Then Biggie, two pockets shot. Then Biggie, then Diddy and Snoop come together at this award ceremony. If you type in Diddy, the source awards, by the way just put the picture and don't even put video. Just put the video, source awards. And go to the image. Snoop and Diddy, they're doing an interview. They look so nervous. That's not the one.
Starting point is 00:45:58 They look so nervous. Why? Because they know they're next. Actually, it was Tupac and Snoop, right? No, no, no, no, no. Tupac's dead at this point. They're sitting there doing an interview. It's after both of them are dead. And they're trying to bring the peace because they know one by one by one by one by one, others are going to go. So if you guys want to play this game, which is freedom of speech, I'm able to say this,
Starting point is 00:46:26 okay fine, go ahead and say it if you think that's freedom of speech. I'm just telling you, what comes next, you best be ready for it. Because it'll go zero to not ugly, not chaotic, catastrophic, very quickly. And when I mean very quickly, I mean very, very, very quickly. You don't want that. You don't want something like that to be taking place. If you do, now by the way, if somebody says, at the cost of what? Are you willing to avoid that taking place at the cost of freedom? No. Are you willing to do that at the cost of, you know, you've been able to do what you want to do, what the government't know if we're getting there I'm in
Starting point is 00:47:06 If we're getting there, but the goal is to prevent temperatures ever getting to that point When I left and start my own insurance company, I never wanted to leave But they cornered me and they forced that event to be taking place if we play this game You're cornering for this to happen. And if it happens on the left and the right, chaos. By the way, why will it not happen on the left? Because this has got nothing to do the left or the right. This has got who is controlled by the establishment media, by the establishment people, who is not.
Starting point is 00:47:40 The people that are, why would you take them out? The people that are not, gotta be careful with that, The people that are not, got to be careful with that, right? Because these guys, you can't control them. The temperatures are so, so high right now that Trump's camp, one, there needs to be a real conversation about protection where, you know, not being too sloppy. Like, you know how I am? I like to walk around people. I don't mind being around people, right?
Starting point is 00:48:11 But then Sam will come and say, no, we need to get XYZ. The other day we're doing a book signing. 550 people show up, a lot of weird things happen. You don't know what's gonna happen in that place. They don't allow like, so what are we doing there? But I love being around people. I can understand how much Trump wants to be around people, but this is a different situation.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Do you, so Pat, if you're in charge of his detail and his thing, because remember me and you had this conversation. He's not gonna do it, but do you tell him and have a conversation like, listen, you're on a golf course, you're out there. I saw a video of MSNBC, Pat. They're recording him, MSNBC, him just playing golf.
Starting point is 00:48:44 I think it might have been a day, if they can see you on a camera, and they're recording him, MSNBC, him just playing golf. I think it might have been a dare. If they can see you on a camera, they're not even supposed to be there, a sniper can easily see you if they want to. Do you tell him to like, to slow down? No, I can't do that because then you're asking the man to not be himself. I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:48:58 All I'm doing is, you can never, a person at this level of alpha, he's the alpha of alphas. You can't tell him not to do that. All you gotta say, Mr. President, we know you like to golf, we know you wanna do X, Y, Z. Can we create certain systems? Can we create certain systems and protocols
Starting point is 00:49:16 where we can do our jobs? Yes, number two, I'm gonna have the entire community on whoever Trump's camp is, MAGA, all those guys, go after the US government to give them 24-7 protection. There's 48 days left. If you have to cut 100 billion dollars to give to Zelensky, you mean to tell me you can't spend 50 million dollars of protection on Secret Service right now to give it to him? And it's not even gonna cost 50 million. It's gonna end up costing you between now and the end of the year, say 10 million bucks. You don't have the money
Starting point is 00:49:43 to do that? Come on, government, you print a six trillion dollars just a few years ago, you can do that. I would be more intentional, I think they're playing with fire. And if we keep allowing this temperature to keep going up, all of a sudden, when this happens, it's like a light that's going to flash. No bro, when the first domino goes, you can't stop it, it's over with. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah. And it goes to the security thing. Rob, can you see if the, uh, the story on the assassination attempt? Because, uh, from bbc.com and it shows you the overhead view of the golf course. And Pat, you're going to see here how easy it would have been, you know, it wouldn't take $10
Starting point is 00:50:22 million. Look how easy it is to patrol the perimeter of this particular Golf course right there, okay? Take a look the area where the sniper was found those are two city streets in a corner How hard it is to have a vehicle patrol how hard it is to have a drone do you see that Pat? Yeah, look how easy it is to secure the perimeter of the golf course. You treat it like it's a jungle with a bunch of trees. No, just look at the perimeter. You could have drones just going down the street the way they do now when they want to watch somebody.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And so it just shocks me, the Secret Service can't do this. But I'd be saying the same thing that you're saying, Pat. Hey guys, we need to elevate the security here. The man is an alpha. He's going to go play golf today. So we have to have the full, put the drones up, get the full security on the perimeter. Everything will be fine. The suspect came down that street and was getting between the fence there. It was so easy to freaking
Starting point is 00:51:13 find. And so, so it's also not only it's a putting the money out, Pat, that the security there, it's the security force doing, which is a damn easy job when you look at the actual perimeter of the golf course. Yeah, Tom, you make a great point because when I was stationed in the Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana, in a nuclear missile base, let's say, Rob, where that dot is, where that Trump is playing golf, we would be an alert, our team, alert response team, we would be driving around. There had to be a patrol constantly patrolling to make sure, Adam, that nobody was approaching,
Starting point is 00:51:44 not like the threat was high, but they're working on a nuke. Just your presence. Like when you go to like some of these Target, one of these places, there's a cop car, just sit in there Tom, nobody's in it. It's a deterrent. And that's one, that's one thing. Have somebody driving out, doesn't cost that much money. And number two, the guy golfs in a white shirt and a red hat. Like, wear some camouflage. Dress in green. I'm being serious. He can wear whatever he wants.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Look at the corners here. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight corners. Yeah, but Tom, one car driving around. And you'd have line of sight. Eight cars and you would have lateral line of sight through the entire perimeter. And Pat, you said he was there from two o'clock in the morning?
Starting point is 00:52:21 You mean that guy was there for how many hours and nobody was around there? Apparently he was there for 12 hours. Jeez. And I agree with Tom that there needs to be better detail here. But you know, the guy that shot Trump the first time, by the way, Trump is lucky to be alive. Pause. Yeah. Like a shot in the face in the ear, one inch over. This guy's not the candidate anymore. Here's an opportunity right here. Another one. So where did they find the first guy on the roof? Okay, where do you think you're gonna find this guy on the golf course behind some trees?
Starting point is 00:52:51 Some things are pretty obvious here. So I'd be having detail sweep during the daytime. There's no reason that there's nobody golfing at 2 a.m. 4 a.m. But If I'm Trump and I totally understand that he needs to be himself and he's the alpha dude you got 50 days To try to do one thing not get shot again. Yeah, and if it means controlling the controllable not playing golf For a couple months. Maybe you need to do that. This is an opportunity like where's Trump gonna get shot probably being outside Yes, so there's four things that's four elements here if you're Trump, you know, he came out and said I'm going to get shot probably being outside. So there's four things. There's four elements here. If you're Trump, you know, he came out and said, I'm going to do rallies. I don't care what you tell me to do.
Starting point is 00:53:30 I'm going to do them. They went and they got him glass and he walked out of the glass to help some ladies. So at what point Trump it's like, dude, I mean, we're doing everything we can to keep you safe and protected play ball with us a little bit. But if you're Trump, hey man, you do what you got to do. Presidents have classically crossed over the line and says, hey, I'm not doing it. Gerald Ford is the last US president where there was two assassination attempts. And the first one, he should have been killed. Squeaky Fromm mischambered the weapon and got
Starting point is 00:54:03 right up to him. I believe in people. Yes. She was from Manson. She got right up there and she held it below abdomen 18 inches crazy and she clicked it and it misfired because it didn't fire because it wasn't chambered and the secret server guys came unglued and pinned her to the ground two weeks weeks later, or maybe three, it was, I believe it was her name, Sarah Jane Moore. She fired two shots from a crowd until the Secret Service and three people in the crowd kind of took her to the ground. Sarah Jane Moore.
Starting point is 00:54:36 So but why did the second time happen? Because Ford refused to not walk among the people. Gerald Ford, who played football and was a man's man, said, you need to put the security up, but I am not going to stop shaking hands with the American people. And he refused. And so that's, he put himself there. So your job is security. And sometimes the presidents are like, I'm the alpha. You're not going to hide finding the basement. Would you say that Trump is more of a target than Gerald freaking Ford? I would say so. Yeah, no doubt. But in this case, security can be provided so that the alpha can be himself.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Okay. To me, this isn't about alpha or not alpha. It's can you be alive for the next 50 days during this election? I mean, the chaos that would happen in this country, God forbid he got killed two months ago or even today. I think, I don't know if he's treating this as serious as it should I think I don't know if he's treating this as serious as it should be. I don't know. But it seems to me, I would say, Mr. President, listen, for the next 30 days, 50 days, there's no golf. There's no outside rallies. If you do stay in the glass or trying to protect you, by the way, it's not a money thing. They came out and said, it's not a money thing. They can certainly dedicate five, 10, $15 million, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:55:45 It's a manpower thing. It's literally a manpower thing with all the DEI candidates. We saw what happened. Of course. How many Melissa McCarthy's are out there protecting the president. I think they need a higher more people. And then even, um, Biden came out and obviously he gave the whole, you know, there's no need, there's no political violence or political rhetoric, but we do need to have more detail around this guy. But even the sheriff of Palm beach county
Starting point is 00:56:09 said, listen, his name is, um, uh, there's Ronald Rowe, who's the acting director of secret service right there. But then there's, there's the sheriff, Rick Bradshaw, this guy right here's the one that came out there. He said, look, he came out and said what people are thinking. He look, he's not the president. He doesn't have the level of detail that a president would. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, he was the president. He could be the president. Let's step this up a little bit guys. So he needs more protection, but he also needs to play ball with the guys. We're talking about 48 days, Adam, God willing he wins. He's still going to keep doing the same thing. And I understand he's going to get an upgrade when he's the president, but this is the former
Starting point is 00:56:49 president of the United States and the level of hate that the left puts on him. This is a no brainer. They have to step it up. But at least Ron DeSantis came out yesterday and said that Florida, right Rob, is going to take over the investigation, PVD, because he even, I don't know if this, this might be the one where he says, how could we in our right mind left the FBI and the DOJ find out who's behind this PPD when the DOJ has been going after him for this whole time? This is the clip.
Starting point is 00:57:15 This is a very, very good move by DeSantis. Governors can create a parallel investigation and only governors. And he called for it. So he is creating the investigation. Florida has, is in pole position on that. And therefore they, they control evidence, including evidence retention rather than maybe evidence, oh, we lost. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:41 We lost those. Yeah. Weird. Yeah. So DeSantis made a good move here. There's a legal word for it that escapes me at the moment, but it is a legal word that describes the authority of a governor to take over investigations of things like this from the feds. There's a clip, Rob?
Starting point is 00:57:56 Yeah, there's a clip. Just FYI, from what I heard from reports that Trump didn't plan on going golf, he went golfing last minute. So how does this guy know, oh, Trump is going to be out there? Oh, dead serious, bro. People are worried about that. He golfs every other day. What do you mean? No, but not today. He wasn't that day. Go ahead, Rob. I did not talk to him yet. I did announce yesterday, we're going to be doing a state level investigation. I understand that the feds are involved, but we do believe that there were multiple violations of state law. We also believe that there's a need to make sure
Starting point is 00:58:26 that the truth about all this comes out in a way that's credible. I mean, I look at the federal government with all due respect to them, those same agencies that are prosecuting Trump in that jurisdiction are now going to be investigating this. I just think that that may not be the best thing for this country. Nevertheless they have their prerogative, but we have our prerogative, and so we'll be making an announcement further along those lines. Good for him. Let's transition to the next story, Rob.
Starting point is 00:58:52 If you can go to the Bill Ackman tweet. I want to read this on what happened with ABC on the debate side, which is kind of weird on the person that posts this. So there is a tweet that comes out and a story that comes out sharing the breakdown of a letter that a whistleblower from ABC writes. Go all the way to the bottom and then we'll read the email. Oh, affidavit, Pepe. If he gets in trouble, it's perjury, jail for a long time.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Okay, so affidavit. So click on this, Rob, from the first one. I want to read the whole thing. Yeah. Click on the first picture, Rob. Right there. Zoom out a little bit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:27 So, here we go. Zoom in a little bit more for that so I can read it. My name is XYZI, I reside in such-and-such New York. I've worked for ABC for over 10 years in various technical and administrative positions. Since the acquisition of ABC in 1996, I've observed significant transformation in the nature of the news reporting at the organization. These changes suggest, how would he know since 96 if he's only worked there for 10 years. These changes suggest a shift from unbiased reporting, a model of influence by external
Starting point is 00:59:52 factors. For the record, I do not endorse Trump in his capacity as candidate for Trump. The intent of his affidavit is to address concerns regarding perceived biases within a news reporting, within my employer's debate that will be hosted on September 10, 2024. Okay, go to the next one, number two. Observations of the debate communication. Since the debate of President Trump announced the broadcast on ABC, various members of the
Starting point is 01:00:16 staff have expressed hope of a debate where issues that were important to everyday Americans will be discussed and that there had been promises that the candidates will be held firm to discussions regarding their proposed policy stances, and that the debate would not deteriorate into an ad campaign, whereas both candidates would simply make blanket statements without specific policy or explanation as to okay. Political position clarification. Many employees at ABC who were looking for fair and honest debate questioned for the clear bias that is well known throughout the company. It is common knowledge that debate moderators, as well as chief executive officer of my employer,
Starting point is 01:00:50 are well known not to support Trump. This led to several employees speaking up in regards to how to make a fair debate fair. We were given assurances that the debate would be fair and neither the Harris nor the Trump campaign would have an unfair advantage. Concerns regarding journalistic integrity. It is my belief that contemporary news organizations, including ABC, no longer adhere to impartiality. The influence of commercial interests and substantial donors appear to affect news presentations, resulting in reporting, okay, a personally witnessed news stories being cut from programming
Starting point is 01:01:21 and not reported at all due to influence of certain corporations linked to our parent company XYZ. The Walt Disney Company is what that says. Observations pertaining to debate fairness. I have noted specific instances related to the debate between Trump and Kamala that raise concerns and procedural fairness, the specific instances of perceived bias are as follows. Let's go to the next one. Zoom in a little bit. the specific instances of perceived bias are as follows. Let's go to the next one. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Zoom in a little bit. Rob, the Harris administration received particular accommodations including but not limited to providing of a podium significantly smaller than the one of Trump and assurances regarding split-screen television views that would favorably impact Kamala Harris' appearance. Relative to Donald Trump, it was agreed that Trump would be subjected to fact-checking during the debate, while Kamala Harris would not face comparable scrutiny. This was widely known throughout the company that Donald Trump would be fact-checked. In fact, various people were assigned to fact-check observations.
Starting point is 01:02:14 It was perceived that candidate Trump would make during the debate, in fact Harris campaign, a required assurance that Donald Trump would be fact-checked. This was done via multiple communications with the Harris campaign, whereas the Trump campaign was not included in negotiations. To my understanding, any rule negotiations and conversations pertaining to the debate should have had both Trump and Kamala Harris involved. The Harris campaign had numerous more calls regarding the debate rules with the Trump campaign aware or on the call.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Not aware. Okay, go to the next one, Rob. The Harris campaign was provided with sample questions while not exact questions covered similar topics that would appear during the debate. Okay, let's read the next part. Go all the way to the top. Here we go. Furthermore, the Harris campaign imposed restrictions, no questions regarding the perceived health of Joe Biden, no inquiries related to her tenure as Attorney General of San Francisco. No questions concerning her brother-in-law, Tony West, who faced allegations of embezzling billions of dollars in taxpayer funds who may be involved in her administration of elected
Starting point is 01:03:18 Tony West. So we got to go Google him afterwards. Internal organization climate observed a pronounced bias against Trump within ABC News. Employees express favorable views towards him, experience significant concerns about the potential retribution. Okay, let's go to the next page, Rob. Purpose of documentation of affidavit.
Starting point is 01:03:37 This affidavit is executed to document and provide transparency regarding the issues of fairness and impartiality in the debate process and broader concerns about journalistic integrity at ABC News. And on the last page, Rob, if we can go to it to see what he says. Next page, zoom in, write, the affidavit has been signed and notarized on September 9, 2000. So this is pre-it taking place to ensure that the allegations set forth formally are documented prior to, in addition to notarizing this affidavit, have sent a certified letter to myself postmarked September 9th, which will remain unopened for any future investigations on this kind of one.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Smart, smart Pat, that's so smart. I have also dispatched a federal express package containing this affidavit on September 9th, delivered to my residence on the 10th, which will remain unopened for potential investigative purposes. With all the FedEx tracking information? Wow! You're kidding me. Furthermore, I have sent a certified letter to Speaker Mike Johnson on the night to establish
Starting point is 01:04:35 a record that the correspondence was sent before the debate. Additionally, for further investigation, I have secretly recorded several conversations that will prove that the Harris campaign insisted upon not only fact checking of Donald Trump, but also insisted on what questions were not to be asked under any circumstances, or else the Harris campaign would decline to participate in the debate and go to the last page drop. Holy moly. Like, Pat, cheating, right? No question.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I make these statements under the penalty of perjury and without coercion of any kind. New York, I've been sworn here. It's a step in David's thing. I'll go to jail. So let me see what Bill Ackman said. Go to the top. Bill Ackman, very successful businessman. I think he's worth $9 or $10 billion.
Starting point is 01:05:16 He writes an open letter to Bob Iger. Right? Dear Bob, I assume that you have been made aware of this. By the way, Bob Iger's career started off with ABC 42 years ago, just so you know. Bob Iger – Oh wow, I didn't know that. Yvonne Perret – Yeah, he started off with ABC, moved his way up on ABC about Disney, then he went and started working. So he knows ABC very well.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Bob Iger – Gotcha. Yvonne Perret – Which was made public today in which a whistleblower states that ABC worked closely with Kamala Harris' campaign in sharing the substance of the questions, avoiding certain topics, etc., etc. I find the allegations credible, as written also because the affidavit was apparently made and filed the day before, go to a smaller, lower one. While I can determine the veracity of the allegations, they do match subsequently with what took place during the debate.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Moderators have yet to respond to the allegations since they have not yet done so. One must draw negative interference in light of the seriousness of the allegations, the implications for this presidential election and for ABC's reputation, thereby Disney's and the office of CEO. I strongly encourage you to launch an immediate investigation of this matter. Our democracy demands on transparency, depends on... Wow. And look what he does.
Starting point is 01:06:18 And then Rob, go to his last one. Three hours ago, he just... Go to Bell App and go a little bit lower. A little bit lower, Robbie. He goes right there, Pat, right there. Come to think of it, I am going to alert the SEC directly about Disney, ABC and their misleading response to the whistleblower accusations
Starting point is 01:06:33 about the presidential debate. Tom, how do you process all of this? Very well and very poorly. I don't process it poorly. I process this very well and it really reflects very poorly on the Walt Disney Company and ABC. First of all, what's interesting here is, do you remember the absolute buzzsaw she ran into with Tulsi Gabbard?
Starting point is 01:07:01 What was Tulsi Gabbard talking about? Her record as attorney general of California incarcerating mostly African-American men for minor drug charges and utilization of the guys that were in there on lesser charges as labor for the state. Remember that's what Tulsi went after her. So if you look at this affidavit, and then you read the part about, and anything regarding her being attorney general, don't want to talk about that. Don't want to talk about Joe Biden, the health of Joe Biden, such as, as vice president, you worked with Joe Biden. Were you aware of his deterioration and what did you do
Starting point is 01:07:45 about it as a leader in government to protect American people, to ensure that the president was in was capable? No questions about that. That was the question that she was not been able to ask and she's been put into the group about that. So when I look at just those two things, those are such obvious questions. Why didn't they get asked? You know, David Muir could have put it any way. You know, people want someone tough on crime. There's a lot of crime in the United States now. You as attorney general have been open to certain criticism. That is a softball question. That's not like a TMZ below the belt question. That's
Starting point is 01:08:19 very, very basic. So the fact that wasn't in there, I find the affidavit credible and the recordings is what I think is the shoe to drop because I also noted, I haven't seen the full response by David Mirror, but David Mirror was very careful in the, uh, in the video that I saw where he said all of this whining about the debate, who won, who lost is a lot of noise. I'm moving on. Do you notice in that he doesn't deny any of this? He just says, oh, the noise about the debate and Trump pointing about it. But that's the one clip I've seen.
Starting point is 01:08:53 I haven't seen the rest or anything written of the response of ABC. But you know, is ABC going to go out and deny any of this? And then the recordings come out. So I think ABC, if this is all true, is checkmated right now. The only thing they can do is, you know how politicians do the half answers, answer something you want to answer, don't answer the real question. It says, how could you ask that? I've always cared about the American people and the economy when I'm asking about inflation. What did you do about inflation? Why did you do this?
Starting point is 01:09:24 That's a ridiculous question. I care about the American people. You know how you answer that way, but this way? That's what I felt like ABC did. Oh, the noise is just gripes about who won. There's just gripes about it. There always is going to be gripes about the debate. We need to move on. But David Muir and everything I saw from that interview didn't come out and say, we didn't give her any topics. We didn't agree not to ask those questions. Oh, we forgot to ask those questions. And we didn't do any of this. That's not what they're saying. So Pat, that's how I process it. I think they are checkmated. If they come out with a denial and then the whistleblowers
Starting point is 01:10:02 releases recordings of executives actually saying these things, it makes it look double worse for ABC. But Tom, let me ask you a question though. But because this guy tried to assassinate Trump, you're not even hearing about this. This has been story-hold and this won't even, like nobody cares about this anymore. And I know that she, you know, she automatically was like, well, I want another debate. Well, obviously. And I mean, how clear was it, Tom?
Starting point is 01:10:23 I know we felt it, but we couldn't really say it because we had no evidence. She was night and day a completely different person. We knew it. Well, sure. And the news media is going to use any other story to shade the order of the stories and whether even cover it at all. So that's going to happen. That's a given. Pat asked me what I thought about it. Adam, you're so right. Yeah. Well, look, I remember we had Ari Fleischer on the podcast probably over a year ago. He was the former press secretary, exactly for George W. Bush. He became famous right after
Starting point is 01:10:53 9-11, everything that he did there. And he basically talked about having a mixed media diet. Remember that term about, all right, cool. Maybe if you're on the left, you're liberal, get a little more conservative outlets in there and basically mix it up. If you're more conservative, see what the left is saying. That way you sort of have a larger scope of what's going on out there. But there's a thing called the media bias chart. And Rob, I think it's the next one. Trust in media.
Starting point is 01:11:21 And then the second thing I sent you. It's a media bias chart. And you can just see for yourself where certain channels or networks basically fall on the chart. You have that Rob? So ABC, where do you think they are on the chart? Of Trustworthy? Yeah. So look, they're just biased. There's left, there's center left, there's center, there's center right,
Starting point is 01:11:42 and there's right. ABC is first on the list of center left. So we know what game that they're already going to play. Look at the outlets that tend to be a little bit more central. Center Reuters, Wall Street Journal, a lot of the sources that we pull from. On the right, obviously you have the Foxes of the world, and on the far right you have Newsmax OAM, but on the far left that's where you see the MSNBCs or the Huffington Post or the Daily Beast we all understand.
Starting point is 01:12:11 But don't get it twisted. ABC, they present themselves as being fair and balanced and independent. No, they're going to be center left and they're going to basically do what they want to do to push their narratives. I'm not shocked to hear any of this. I doubt we all are. Call it cheating, call it sort of helping a candidate, whatever component you want to put on it.
Starting point is 01:12:31 But is anybody shocked to hear that ABC was sort of rooting for Gommela or helping Gommela? This is not about being shocked. This is very different than being shocked. This is an affidavit was written the day before, sent to Speaker Johnson, sent to himself, sent FedEx in every way to say, here's what's gonna happen.
Starting point is 01:12:52 And he ends up being right. Can you go to his brother-in-law, Rob? Who is Kamala Harris's brother-in-law? So why is he being protected? What do they fear about him? So by the way, this is a, let's find out who this guy is. He's married to Kamala's sister. He was like an Uber. Was he been in the Uber company?
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah. He was the senior vice president and chief legal officer for Uber. He also was general counsel for PepsiCo and was the assistant attorney general of the civil division for the department of justice. His wife is Maya Harris. Go lower, go lower to see is the sister of Connell. Go lower to see if the controversy on it. So I looked, I couldn't find anything in a scandal regarding billions.
Starting point is 01:13:31 The only mention of billions in his Wikipedia article is right here. West was involved in efforts by the Department of Justice to reclaim 37 billion from large financial institutions. But it doesn't say anything about a scandal involving him. Then why would they fear? Yeah, just like I mentioned, the fact that her brother-in-law, Tony West,
Starting point is 01:13:52 faces allegations of embezzling billions of taxpayer funds who may be involved in her administration if elected. There's already articles about saying that they're gonna tap him. I think that's the one, Robbie. Was that it? going to tap him. I think that's the one, Robbie. Was that it? Embezzlement. He was a former U.S. Attorney General under Barack Obama.
Starting point is 01:14:10 It's who he was. West is married to Harris's sister, Maya, who he met in law school 35 years ago. After their wedding, he told the United Center, I also gained a sister, a sister I cherish, Kamala. As president, I'll know she'll fight for you, he concluded. This is her speech, his speech that he's giving. Interesting. Yeah, the New York Times, Pat, says he emerges as a close advisor to Kamala.
Starting point is 01:14:34 And the New York Times says he's a, he's going to be an advisor even though he has, dude, that's crazy that nobody's ever heard of him until ABC's like, make sure you don't bring him up as if Trump would have brought him up You know, I mean like they were doing research on this guy So how much credibility do you give this guy Pat pretty high the after the guy that basically wrote this out for David? I I think okay. Let's see what he got right. Yeah, he said Trump's gonna be fact-check more than Kamala. Yeah, That's fact. Okay, number two is the podium. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Yes, we said that early. Number three, did they ask any questions about Joe Biden's health? No, no. Okay. That's the third one, right? They did. Her record as attorney general. Her record as attorney general.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Not even asked about it. Not brought up. That's four, right? So if four is right, then Tony West, something has to be there. So I don't know, this guy seems like a guy that's a, you know, if he wanted to speak and do an interview without showing his face, I mean,
Starting point is 01:15:35 I wanna see what that looks like. What was Bill Ackman's involvement in this? I'm just curious. No, he just wrote an open letter to Bob Iger saying, what the hell is this? Yeah. Basically saying, did you see this? Yeah, did you know about this? And the local mcconnell was, yeah. Are you aware of this? And then Bob Iger saying, what the hell is this? Yeah. Basically, did you see this?
Starting point is 01:15:45 Yes. And hold them accountable. Yeah. Are you worried this? And then Bob Iger is either going to respond or not going to respond. Now, Bob Iger is that's 1% respond. What about any sort of congressional hearing or anything like this? Where does this go from here?
Starting point is 01:15:56 By the way, so kind of called the shot. But watch what happened here. She ends up doing only interview. She did an interview for ABC, a local ABC network. I don't know if you saw that when he asked her a question about the economy. Did you see this or not? Okay Rob, is this the one? Yep. Okay, so she he's asking her about the economy. This is her answer about the economy. Tom? Was it three, four days after the debate? Yes. Just put a timeline on this? Yes, three, four days after the
Starting point is 01:16:21 debate. Go ahead Rob. Well, I'll start with this. You'll start from the beginning, Rob, because people have to hear the question. Go from the beginning. Go ahead. When we talk about bringing down prices and making life more affordable for people, what are one or two specific things you have in mind for that? Well, I'll start with this. I grew up a middle-class kid. My mother raised my sister and me.
Starting point is 01:16:43 She worked very hard. She was able to finally save up enough money to buy our first house when I was a teenager. I grew up in a community of hardworking people, construction workers and nurses and teachers. I try to explain to some people who may not have had the same experience, you know, a lot of people will relate to this. You know, I grew up in a neighborhood of folks who were very proud of their lawn. I grew up in an apartment. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:17:12 And, um, and I was raised to believe and to know that all people deserve dignity. And that... Are you listening to this? What is she even saying? What is she even saying? I'm not listening. dignity and that are you listening to this character ideas on the economy and she's like I grew up missions and aspirations like their long not everyone necessarily has access to the resources that this is when you don't know the question okay here we go watch watch watch so when I talk about building an opportunity economy it is very much with the mind of
Starting point is 01:17:47 investing in the ambitions and aspirations and the incredible work ethic of the American people and creating opportunity for people, for example, to start a small business. Oh, by the way, that's what happens when you don't know the answers and you have been prepped and there's no cheating involved. That is her raw dog. That is her. If only she had an advisor in her ear that just say, I'm going to work with the Fed to lower interest rates and help reduce the cost of living, and we're also going to work with an energy program.
Starting point is 01:18:15 That's it. So that we can get the, if we're producing our own energy and we're not importing the oil, it will get the cost of gas, travel, and diesel for trucks down, which would reduce the cost of things for the average diesel for trucks down, which would reduce the cost of things for the average American. That's how I answer the question. And even the most basic person could sit there and go, Oh, okay. Well, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Does it? Yeah. Well, look, you know, a lot of people say, listen, the reason I like Trump and the reason I want Trump in there is because he's a businessman and we need to run the country like a business. All right. There's a lot of truth to be said there. Now you also have to understand that there's, you know, policy that needs to be understood and everything that happens with the constitution.
Starting point is 01:18:50 And maybe Trump is not exactly the number one candidate for that. But there you have Kamala who, you know, you talk about public private partnerships. Has she ever literally ever had a job not in public service? She ever run a business? Has she ever had employees? She worked at in public service? She ever run a business that she ever had? She worked at McDonald's. Okay. So as guns, McDonald's claim she didn't.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Yeah. Yeah. You know, just because you worked at McDonald's, doesn't mean that you understand how small businesses work. And just cause she's cooking the fries, doesn't mean that she's cutting the checks. So here's somebody who has apparently zero, zero experience running any sort of business whatsoever. So do I want to have someone who is 100% business that maybe needs to learn some policy perspective or someone who is 100% government and has no clue how businesses run, the economies run.
Starting point is 01:19:41 The whole concept that she's looking out for small businesses is genuinely laughable to me. What in her track record has she ever done, ever, to help small businesses? And she's going to go basically, you know, in 2008, when the mortgage crisis and mortgage backed securities, I helped people figure that out. No, you didn't. What did you do? That was the federal government basically helping step in with stimulus checks would have. I just think there's so much smoke and mirrors here and where he needs to focus the economy because she's absolutely clueless when it comes to that. And it would have been such a layup because two days after the debate, she was the administration
Starting point is 01:20:19 hurt not administration, but her people were pointing out, no, no, no, no, no, no. She's been in favor of fracking. She's not anti-fracking because what do we know fracking? Fracking helps you drill baby drill. And all that answer had to be inflation, we're worried about inflation. Let's talk about the cost of gas and the cost of heating oil that hit people right in the pocketbook. I am in favor of fracking so that we can have more oil
Starting point is 01:20:43 and gas drilled here in the United States and get the price down for the American people. That's not a complicated case study. That's a simple answer. And Adam, to your point, why can't she just say that from something her campaign was answering two days prior? The reason why I show that is because she went to an ABC network. So the agreement is ABC, ABC, ABC. What do you think is the longest podcast she's going to do? You think she'll do one? What do you think is the longest podcast she'll do? Zero. I do not think that she'll sit on a long form podcast.
Starting point is 01:21:14 At all. Unless it's like when she was on the board, the breakfast club, they just laughed and they joke around and it's not absolute. When was she on the breakfast club? Oh, she was on the breakfast club a while ago. Okay. But I'm saying what is she doing now? I think everything's going to be no Joe Biden 2.0 hang out in the breakfast? Oh, she's on breakfast club a while ago. Okay, but I'm saying what is she doing now? I think everything is gonna be no Joe Biden 2.0. Hang out in the basement scripted edited Here's what Stephen a senior independent podcast not happening Here's what Stephen a Smith said about that. Let me see. What page is that? Stephen a Smith story on Rob if you can tell me I'll go to it. Oh, here we go It's not going to continue. It's not going to continue to work.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Stephen A. Smith sounds alarm on Harris, copying Biden's basement strategy. Rob, if you can pull up the clip of Stephen A. talking about this, I'll read a little bit about it, but it's just better you hearing. Is this it, Rob? Go ahead and play the clip.
Starting point is 01:21:59 I think that she has to turn around and she's gotta hit him low too. You know, I mean, it ain't like she's devoid of the ammunition. She's got plenty of ammunition. And she's going to have to come out there swinging. Because if you look at some of the things that he said, even with the, that's why I went off on my podcast this last show when I was talking about enough of the hiding You know Biden was the president
Starting point is 01:22:31 They greased the skid so he didn't have any competition for the primary So there was no primary and then ultimately he shows his face on June 27th and we learned that respectfully our president He just didn't seem to have it anymore Yeah, and so obviously the Democratic donors and what have you forced him out. She comes in there, you put her in there and what does she do? She's using rallies as interviews. No, no, that's not the same thing. You got to go up there and fight fire with fire.
Starting point is 01:22:59 He's showing up everywhere despite 34 felony convictions, two impeachments, multiple civil suits against him. He's going out there and showing his face everywhere. And then he's bringing up the war in Ukraine. He's bringing up the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in Gaza and beyond. He's bringing up some stuff that's going on with our borders, stuff that's going on in this country. And he's saying, where is she?
Starting point is 01:23:24 He's doing that on purpose, because it's an engagement and misogyny where he's trying to imply, I'm a man, I'm strong, I'm willing to show up and fight, where is she at? You can't answer that by not showing up yourself. It's working now, please don't get me wrong, I was making the point, it's not going to continue to work. You're gonna have to show up and show out
Starting point is 01:23:48 just like he does. Wherever he goes, you're gonna have to show up and be like, I'm here too. Let's get it on. Tom, what do you think about what he's saying? Well, I agree that it's not gonna work. So I agree with the core of what Stephen A said. Hey, this isn't gonna work.
Starting point is 01:24:04 You gotta fight fire with fire. What he is saying is, regardless of whether who he votes for, who he wants, his core point is correct. If you're going to run a campaign and you're going to go up against somebody, you got to go out there. And he's saying fight fire with fire because he's trying to give Kamala some encouragement.
Starting point is 01:24:22 And then she's not doing it. And he's pointing out Trump saying, who is she? So what Stephen A is saying, hey, if we're going to, let's face it, Stephen A doesn't have any respect for athletes that won't come get in the game. And he's right. And he doesn't have any respect for people that hide behind excuses.
Starting point is 01:24:39 He doesn't let athletes give a fake excuse when they interview. He'll call that right out. And what he's saying here, hey man, you got to go out there and you got to get in the ring and you got to really fight. And I agree with him on that. You look like you have a different idea. Listen, and Tom, I agree with what he's saying, but I don't have any respect for anyone that's
Starting point is 01:25:01 this educated that knows, that knows. He just laid it out no no primary this democracy that they're talking about they forced this guy out again more democracy they install Kamala Harris and for someone like Stephen a who's educated smart dude we've hung out with him we've broken bread with this guy how can you in your right mind say that you are voting for Kamala Harris she's bringing nothing to the table. She has no policies. They cheat when they freaking have these debates. There's no substance. When somebody says I'm voting for Kamala Harris and you say why, there is no other answer
Starting point is 01:25:34 PBD, except she's not Trump. It's not Trump. It's not Trump. What is she running for? And nobody could say it. Nobody, Tom. Did Stephen A said he was running for her or did he say the basement campaign strategy isn't going to work? No, no, no. But I, but I, if I'm not mistaking, I mean, who do you think he's voting for? I think I've heard Rob that he said he's voting for Kamala. Am I mistaken? I don't think I'm mistaken. Yeah. I don't think he's voting for Trump. No, absolutely not. Rob, what do you, Rob, did you say you have something to say?
Starting point is 01:25:59 The DZ voting for her? No, I don't know. I just brought up this clip. This is a Gwen Waltz to Vinny's point. Pat, if we can play this. This is her at a rally this week where they don't talk about any campaign issues whatsoever. It's just, we're not Trump. Vote for us based on that. Yeah, can we see it?
Starting point is 01:26:15 Can we see it? Wow, she's weird. Look at her eyes. But I kind of liked it when she did this. Turn the page. Turn the page. Oh my god. You didn't like that?
Starting point is 01:26:23 What? OK, so I think you should be with me and practice with me what are we gonna do we're gonna Watching you because when I see And I'm watching national and TV because it's a pretty important place and Minnesota helped me practice it with this. You just show me this, turn the page. Right? Turn the page.
Starting point is 01:26:53 And you know what else that looks like? Bye bye. Bye bye. Bye bye Donald Trump. Oh, TVS dude. We are turning the page. Oh my God, oh, Trump. Oh, TVS, dude. We are turning the page. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:27:09 52 days, and we are turning the page. I would like, I mean, look at, look who she's married to. Tim. She is in no danger of ever having to give a Nobel Prize acceptance speech. The whole reenactment of this whole thing, Tom, we're familiar with this whole thing. The tassels are left to the right.
Starting point is 01:27:29 We understand that. I'd like to turn the page on that. But here's the reality. I'll be over here. As much as I respect Stephen A. Smith, he is dead wrong, man. Good job. The whole concept that she needs to get out there
Starting point is 01:27:40 and get out of the basement, and she needs to put substance and put some meat on the bone and actually take some tough questions. No, she doesn't. I mean, do we want her to do we want her to face the challenge? We want her to step up and actually put her feet to the fire. Of course we do. Because I would venture to say that she is probably the least known presidential candidate
Starting point is 01:27:58 ever. What do we actually know about her? Nothing. They didn't vote for Adam. They didn't pick her. She was coronated as a DEI candidate per Joe Biden's words in 2020. She was catapulted when Joe Biden had his meltdown. What do we know about it? We just figured out there's some guy named Tony that Tony West that apparently owes billions of dollars. What's going on with that? I don't know. I've
Starting point is 01:28:19 never heard about that. What's her, what her parent or father, Mark's his mother. What's going on with that? The sister, we don't really know that much about Kamala, but listen, if I'm her, I'm doing exactly what I'm doing. Rob, if you pull up to five 38, do you know two months ago she was minus 16 underwater favorability ratings, minus 16. Her unfavorable rating was 53 or favorability was 37. I sent it to you on Slack right now. She is dead. Even Kamala Harris. There it is right there. She in a matter of two months, she went from irrelevant, unlikable vice
Starting point is 01:28:53 president to potentially within three points, margin of an error, the next president of the United States. This gives me massive concern pause for concern, but as we learned with anything going on here, as long as you're doing things like turn the page and talking about abortion, there's some people who are deeply emotional that have TDS that you're just like, yeah, I can't do Trump. Well, Adam, but you know, that's the problem that jump goes up to approval. Adam, because once the mainstream legacy media machine gets behind you, bro, they
Starting point is 01:29:22 can make Kamala Harris look like she's the savior of the world. How do you go from being completely unlikable drowning in two months, neutral and people like you? You know, it's an interesting, if you look at this chart and you follow it and you look at her favorability ratings, look where it drops off. July 13th is when Trump was the first assassination of Trump. Yep. All of a sudden it dives
Starting point is 01:29:45 and then goes favorable, unfavorable. Well, and then across now, where is it now? She's back to 47.1 unfavorable. 46.4 net. Well, let's face it. Something point six. So the point is she went from highly underwater, unfavorable, unlikeable to now. Yeah. Yeah. We're good with Kamala. Yeah. So the point is whatever she's doing is working. Although a lot of people see through the BS. Can I challenge you a little bit on that? You just said whatever she's doing is working. We have seen the analysis of the news that the coverage of her is in over 90% positive from all of the big outlets that constitute what the majority of Americans hear. You don't think that that 90% positivity is having an impact on the voters that are in this poll, that are in this,
Starting point is 01:30:36 that are being surveyed here, but that are not really paying attention, that get their news and snack, that deal on perceptions and feelings. You don't think that's driving that here? I think it is. I definitely think it's. Yes, of course. Okay, well that's not what she's doing. She hasn't done anything grand, and that's the point where I challenge you. I don't think she's done anything.
Starting point is 01:30:54 I think that she is getting the wins in her sale from the mainstream media. That's my point, is that she doesn't need to do anything. There's so much we don't know to your point. Steven A. Smith is saying she needs to do more, and basically all the data is like, no, she doesn't need to do anything. Steve Smith is saying she needs to do more. And she's basically all the data is like, no, she doesn't. There's a lot. The media just put the wind behind her. There's a lot we do know.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Right. We do know that she didn't work at McDonald's, but we do know she was dipping the French fry with Willie Brown. So there's all the things that we do know compared to everybody wants to talk about. We don't know. But the more people see, I think it was potatoes, but it's, we'll go ahead. Keep going. It was, um, the more people see them, they are moving.
Starting point is 01:31:33 And the, one of the only things that matters, get beyond all of the debate stuff. You know what mattered in the debate? What did the undecideds and the, and the core independent undecideds, what happened to them? Reuters found out they were breaking 7-2 for Trump, and in national polls, you're seeing that start to show up in national polls. And by the way, why do we have a shortage of national polls right now? We've gone a week where we've only had, I think, six major pollsters put out a big national poll result.
Starting point is 01:32:07 You know, one oh why, Adam? The pollsters are sitting on them because they don't match the narrative and they detect that she's losing a little momentum now. And so it's the mainstream narrative that gives her that 90% positivity is now sitting on a lot of polling data because they don't want it to come out. And they're waiting for all of this stuff to help. So let's go to this. Let's go to it.
Starting point is 01:32:29 We're going to find that out because when you look at the odds, ready your bets, election gambling is going to mainstream in the U.S. Political September 12th, the story comes out. So Cal-Shea, a finance exchange startup, received approval to offer regular election betting markets in the U.S., allowing traders to bet thousands of dollars on political outcomes. He celebrated this as a historic victory, saying, now is finally the time to allow these markets to show the world just how powerful they are at providing signal amidst the noise. The Commodity Futures Trade Commission, opposing the Calshies
Starting point is 01:33:01 market, arguing they violated federal law and risk degrading US election integrity. Senator Jeff Merkley, a Democrat from Oregon, called it a nightmare scenario warning it could allow wealthy players to put their thumb on the scale on elections. The CFTC has appealed the decision and a market's future remains uncertain. Adam. Well, as much as we can talk about all the polls, 538 and a statista and ABC and Quinnipiac and throw out any single name. The only only one that I look at is Vegas and because Vegas actually has money on the line. We talk about these people right now, ready to place their bets.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Election gambling is going mainstream in the US. Don't look now, but Kamala Harris is the favorite to win the presidency in 2024. Prior to the debate, we talked about this the night of the debate on September 10th, Trump was up 52% to Kamala's 48%. If you basically do the math on the four to five or 11 to one. So if you take the money line on Kamala, she's basically minus 109. So if you're the money line on Kamala, it's basically she's basically minus 109. So if you're minus, that means you're the favorite and Trump is plus 116. So just do the basic math. Trump is now 47% to her 52%. She's the favorite.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Now if you told me three months ago after Joe Biden basically almost died on stage, Kamala Harris was possibly going to be the replacement with Gretchen Wichmer, Gavin Newsom. We've said, there's no way unlikeable Kamala Harris is going to be the candidate fast forward. It's what September 16th as we speak right now and 17th and she's the favorite for the presidency of the United States. Are you fricking kidding me? Welcome to DEI 2024. That's the reality today that she could legitimately be the president of the United States. And it's shocking to me, but true. I love Senator Jeff Merkley. This is a nightmare scenario. It could allow wealthy players to put their thumb on the scale
Starting point is 01:34:56 in elections. Yeah, that never happens now. Pat, did you see what the Pope said about these two? What? Did you see? So I sent Bob, I sent you the video. Pope Francis was on an airplane in the aisle of all places speaking to a group of people about our elections in the United States. And he basically said Kamala and Trump are both anti-life. And he said Kamala's anti-life because of her abortion stance and that Trump is for kicking out migrants.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Look, he's on an airplane. Like, can you imagine you're on an airplane and the Pope is just in the middle? The Pope is giving a speech. Yeah, look at this. Go ahead. you're on an airplane and the pope is just in the middle the pope is giving a speech yeah look look look at this go ahead She did check in on what that is a brutal Non, a born on a born city. They were tiny He said they were sharing it He might be know it the lesser He might be know it
Starting point is 01:35:55 Well, I see your local senior. No, so I only conscious Pense it and facha quest He's no later later. He did say a hundred on Trump take the point I think it's a good chance to win. 2016, when Hillary Clinton is going against Trump, do you know what day election day was? November 8th. Election day was November 8th. The day we voted was November 8th. So this article comes out, CNN, and I want you to show the article and exactly when they wrote the article.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Zoom into the article, I just texted you, Rob. Watch this so zoom into the time. It's written 12 17 That means new like about an hour and 90 minutes from now. Okay November 8 Tuesday, they're writing this article Clinton's odds rise again. Okay So go go lower Rob if the video plays actually play the video play the video go ahead watch Okay, go lower. All right, let's read this together. Hillary Clinton's odds of winning presidency rose from 78% last week to a 91% on Monday before election day. Okay? Clinton's odds have always been much greater than her opponent, Republican nominee Donald Trump, according to the prediction market.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Although they have dropped last week, her odds stood at 95%. On October 20, just two weeks before the election, but on October 26, she dipped to 90%. Then continued to decline. October 31, on Halloween, they reached 78% right after Director Comey sent a letter to Congress saying the FBI discovered emails related to the close investigation of her private email server and wanted them reviewed. The email controversy has plagued Clinton's bid for the White House since she announced her run in April 2015.
Starting point is 01:37:53 On Sunday, Comey told lawmakers the agency hasn't changed its opinion that Hillary Clinton should face criminal charges. After a review of new emails, now Clinton's odds stand at 91%. This is election day. This is the day everybody's voting and Trump fell to nine. A steep decline from 23% of one week ago. CNN's political prediction market is an online game, administrated by company pivot, which functions like an online market and allows internet users to predict the outcome in 2016 election. It is not to be confused with the polls from real voters. With one day to go for election, CNN poll shows Clinton leading Trump a narrow 4.46
Starting point is 01:38:35 to 42. Right? So you can look at the vaguest odds. You can look at all the numbers. You can look at everything. This thing's going to go down to the wire and Trump eat Hillary Hillary was more formidable than Kamala Peter Thiel said something three days ago. I don't know about the cheating bat Oh beautiful if it's gonna be close they're gonna cheat cheat. Yes. I mean they're already doing it
Starting point is 01:38:56 They didn't want an ABC type in Peter Thiel cheating. It's gonna come up that one right there. Yeah, go ahead Rob It is gonna if it is gonna be close, by the way, if it's like gonna be a razor-thin close election, then I'm pretty sure Kamala will win because they will cheat, they will fortify it, they will steal the ballots. Fortify. And so, you know, if we can answer them in the right manner.
Starting point is 01:39:22 I love this panel. In the event that it's close, I don't wanna be involved. In the event that that it's close, I don't want to be involved. In the event that it's not close, I don't need to be involved. And so that's sort of a straightforward analysis right there. Is that the All Women podcast? I am still very strongly pro-Trump, pro-JD. I've decided not to donate any money politically, but I'm supporting them in every other way possible.
Starting point is 01:39:48 If it is going to be close, by the way. These guys are big wigs, man. This isn't just some Monday-day quarterback that just, hey, I think you're going to cheat. That's a bold statement, Tom. I love it. I agree with Peter Thiel. I'm of the opinion that right now what the mainstream media is doing is they have to That's a bold statement, Tom. But I, I, I agree with Peter Thiel. I'm of the opinion that right now that what the mainstream media is doing is they have to portray the election is close because if you portray it close and
Starting point is 01:40:13 something happens, then, oh, it was close. Why are you so surprised? It was close. I've, I've got it at 74% chance and I've got trumpet right now, 289 on the electoral votes and that's how I think got trumpet right now, 289 on the electoral votes. And that's how I think it stands right now. And that is without any additional states, one like Wisconsin or Michigan. That's with Tom. That's with that's with Tom. But Tom, we're on video. Where are you getting 74%? I understand that if you think Trump is favored, but to go from 50,
Starting point is 01:40:45 50, 52, 48 to 75%. No, that's not the national poll. I'm talking about the statistical. Are you saying that he's going to win all the swing states? No, it's what I'm saying is I believe there is a 74% probability he wins the election. And I'm basing that on Nevada is whiter now than Arizona, but he's leading both. Georgia is very similar to Arizona. He's leading both. And I believe all the numbers that we looked at, and by the way, we're not alone here, we're looking at, um, Rasmussen.
Starting point is 01:41:18 And we're also looking at the people's pundit and people just like us who are maintaining a high degree of objectivity. And over the weekend, the Atlas poll came out on a national basis and they were the number one closest pollster in the last presidential election. You compared their last polls seven days or less before the election and the results of the election themselves. They were right on it. Tom, that's, you just put that up for you
Starting point is 01:41:46 That's from Atlas three days ago 3.6 in in the 3.6 Nationally, that's where Atlas is and there aren't other nine. That's 2.9 fifty point nine Okay, three so it's three 9. Okay, three. So it's three. You're three points on a national basis now. And where are the other national polls? They're sitting on them because they don't match the news narratives. That's what's going on. I believe when I'm looking at this, that Georgia, Arizona,
Starting point is 01:42:18 and Nevada are close with Nevada being the most Certain at this point leaning toward Trump and then I believe that he is at 2.5 3.0 in Pennsylvania and if you put that if you make the map with that guess what you get you get 287 Without Pennsylvania, you know where he is. He's 268. It takes 270 to win this thing She has to run the table and she's not Rob do me a favor JD Vance had one of his better mom one of the best moments on TV with they watch what happens here I love this clip here go ahead or Dana bash oh Rob I can't hear anything like to go back a little bit yeah please Dana would you like to ask me questions and then let me answer them or would you
Starting point is 01:43:05 like to debate me uh... on on these topics i noticed that we had kamala harrison tim waltz you gave them multiple choice answers to the questions that you asked any will allow them to answer the questions i'm happy to hear to be here to talk about policy but if you're gonna interrupt me every single time that i open my mouth then why am i even doing this so please ask a question and i'd ask you to be polite enough to have the But if you're gonna interrupt me every single time that I open my mouth, then why am I even doing this? So please ask a question and I'd ask you to be polite enough to let me answer it. Yes, Dana
Starting point is 01:43:31 I love that. But did you see Dana bash's blink rate go through the ceiling? She starts blinking that is a sign of of direct stress. Yes, like she's in getting hit and that's a Like she's getting hit and that's a any psychologist and FBI profile I will tell you when blink rate accelerates the person is under immediate current stress Let's go through it. Let's go transition to a different story here rap Tom interest rates Okay, Jamie diamond says to follow and I'll go into this and maybe you can talk about interest rates with this Jamie diamond warns of stagflation threat. Okay, so now keep in mind Jamie Just recently announced that the most important thing to him is him stepping down and succession. Jamie comes back down and lowers the amount of hours they want their guys to work.
Starting point is 01:44:16 They were doing 80 hours a week, they're kind of going down to 60 hours a week. And then he comes on and says economic growth in the U.S. surpasses expectations in the second quarter with a 2.8% increase in GDP, driven by strong consumer demand and government spending. However, the economy has since shown signs of slowing down in the second half of the year with private sector payrolls growing at the weakest pace since 2011, raising concerns about cyclical companies. JP Morgan Chase, Jamie Dimon warned that the combination of stagnation and inflation remains a real threat, which could lead to higher unemployment and reduced
Starting point is 01:44:50 consumer purchasing power. Despite a decline in inflation by 2.5% in August, the potential for increased national debt and interest payments could exasperate. Inflationary pressures, Dimon's concerns highlights the precarious balance of the U.S. economy as it navigates between growth and inflation. Tom, one, what's going to happen with interest rates later on today? And two, are you in the same place as Jamie? Tom Bilyeu Yeah, so today we're going to get some comments
Starting point is 01:45:19 from Jerome Powell and then the official waving of the checkered flag on the decision. This morning they said there will be a special press conference at 2 p.m. tomorrow. They announced that today. So it is a lock we're gonna get a quarter point off of the interest rate, and that's gonna have a positive effect on mortgages. As a matter of fact, mortgages are reacting.
Starting point is 01:45:44 Pat, you won't believe this. Take a look. I didn't talk to Pat about this. He hasn't seen this. Rob, pop the slide this morning. Look at it. 30-year fix, 6.5. Vinny, 30-year VA, 6.1. We haven't seen things threatening to get into the fives in two years. And so, this is just, by the way, this is a 400,000 mortgage, 20% down, 750 credits. So this is not anything crazy. So that's what we're seeing here. Now, there are people out there, the Fed watchers, and I'm one of them, who believe that there is
Starting point is 01:46:19 about a 60% chance, based on the labor information that came out and and unemployment now definitely above four it's four point two that those could cause the Fed to say you know what we really need a half a point right now you know what the Biden administration Kamala Harris are doing they are lobbying for a half a point right now that's what they want. They need it right now. But the Fed watchers also say that the labor numbers, remember the ones that got revised over the last three weeks? There's a lot of controversy about that. Jerome Powell said that he was uncomfortable with the lack of consistency in the labor numbers. People say that's bad because if he's confident that the labor numbers were poor and for seven consecutive months we've lost
Starting point is 01:47:09 full-time jobs in the US, then if he looks at that and accepts it he probably goes that 60% making it a half a point cut because it means hey we're losing jobs, unemployment's up 4.2, those would correlate. Man I think it needs to be a half point but it needs to be a half point, but it's gonna be a quarter point. And what Diamond is concerned about is with consumer delinquencies on cars and credit cards are up,
Starting point is 01:47:35 credit card balances are up again. All of that slows down or stagnates the economy, and then you have the unemployment going up, and that's the stagflation. So Jamie Dimon is saying, hey, we went from inflation way out of control, now we could go to unemployment getting out of control, and as well as negative pressure on financial service companies
Starting point is 01:47:59 who start to suffer losses from delinquencies. Even though over there at Chase, they're among the people that are charging people 25% on credit cards right now. So the banks initially make a lot of money. And then when it goes delinquent, that's all of his concerns wrapped in a bubble there. You remember about a month ago when the VIX shot up the volatility index like boom, all of a sudden the market I think crashed 1000 points.
Starting point is 01:48:22 It was because of the yen. It was Japan. Yeah, it was it was sort of a function of that. But ultimately there was what it came down to was concerns over where unemployment was sort of trending because I think the number that they want to keep it below is 5%. I think it's 4.2% right now. There were some numbers basically coming in saying that it was trending in the wrong direction, four and a half percent.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Boom, VIX skyrocketed. Market basically got pummeled. I remember it was on a Monday. By the time we came back in on Tuesday and discussed it on the podcast, everything was back to normal again. So that just sort of sent shockwaves and reverberations in the marketplace. So regarding, was it Jamie Dimon's comments regarding about stagflation? So we've just experienced some of the worst inflation we've had since basically 1980, where inflation I think was an all-time high at 14%. That was under Pat's favorite president, Jimmy Carter, that he owes being in America too, right?
Starting point is 01:49:17 Shout out to Jimmy. By the way, who's still around with us, I want to say. Yes, I think so. About to be 100. But the difference between inflation and stagflation is so inflation, boom, GDP goes up, cost of goods and services go up. So people start to spend more, spend more of their paycheck like we all understand. But also, partially, part of it is that there's still low unemployment. Now with stagflation, there's still low growth, there's high unemployment,
Starting point is 01:49:46 and inflation is still high. So it's a pretty shitty situation where your spending basically starts to go stagnant because you just simply can't afford anything at that point, much like inflation where you have to just pay more. But Jerome Powell, who I often cite as probably the most important man in America, who people don't know as a household name. He has come out and vocally said that he's not trying to tip the levers in any direction for Trump or Harris in this upcoming election, which I think we can all understand these probably one of the few people who seems to be unbiased. And by the way, I think he was appointed by Trump regardless.
Starting point is 01:50:24 He said, there's also flashing signs of this inverted yield curve. You heard this whole thing, Tom, you basically explained that to me a few months ago, how that could basically be a sign of the economy. But if you look at the United States compared to the rest of the world, inflation, I think is closer to two and a half percent at this point with the target of 2% unemployment, 4.2%. Not bad stock market last year, 25% this year, 15%. Market's doing good, but as we all know, there's a big difference between Main Street and Wall Street. But then you look at the Fed fund rate, which is looking
Starting point is 01:50:55 to do today, it's at 5.25%, 5.5%. Prime rate's at 8.5%. So what they're ultimately saying is that this is probably going to be the last rate cut potentially hike down a hike, but until the election. So they're basically calling them for him to basically go big or go home. You think he's going to do half a quarter? I think quarter is an absolute lock and I'm only 50-50 on that because of his comments about the labor numbers. He does not like the fact that government's monkeying with the labor numbers. Okay, so let's just say it's a half a point. How does the market react?
Starting point is 01:51:29 Oh, the market celebrates. You think it's like a 5% day? No, I think it's a 2.5% to 3% day, and the financial services sector, just is absolutely overjoyed. What a perfect timing for some of us. Isn't that weird? What I'm saying? Yeah, wouldn't it be great? justice absolutely overjoyed. What a perfect timing for some of us. Yeah wouldn't it be great? But just think of what can be Pat unburdened by what has been.
Starting point is 01:51:52 I think the one crisis nobody is talking about, Rob did you see the text I just sent you? Can you pull that up? This is one probably one of the biggest crisis no one even bringing up. Pull this up. Pornhub traffic down 14.8% during the presidential debate. Rob's Wi-Fi went down. Yeah. By the way, when they put this data up, you know what else they put up? States with the biggest drop, okay? States with the biggest drop and states that didn't move at all. So if you look at this list, okay, go to the bottom. This is Pornhub. During the debate, they put this up. Now, by the way, what a great thing for Pornhub to put up. So here's 14.8. You're not going to hear this on mainstream media guys. I'm letting you know right now.
Starting point is 01:52:32 But watch this here. This is the funniest part about this, to see what states had the biggest drop off, which means it tells you which states are more concerned about who's going to be their president, which states are like, I really could care less. I'm going to keep going for it. So let's go through, Rob. First, go with the drop off. Zoom in a little to be the president, which states are like, I really could care less. I'm going to keep going for it. Yeah. So let's go through Rob. First, go with the drop-off. Zoom in a little bit to the bottom. Okay. And go to the left. Yeah. The ones on the left is what we want to look at first. Yeah. Kind of hide the other ones on the right if you could. There you go. Maryland are the ones most focused. They went 20. Makes sense. One out of four. They're in the DMP.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Delaware is next. Look at Biden's people are like, look, we got to see what's going on here. Maybe it's like five people living there and one of them didn't watch. So it's kind of like, you know what I'm saying? Then you have Wisconsin, Rhode Island, Connecticut, by the way, all that area is very nervous. They're so looking for Vermont, Massachusetts, New Hampshire. Is that not weird that all the guys on the Northeast are freaking out? So anyhow, Washington, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Alaska, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Maine, Louisiana,
Starting point is 01:53:32 Nevada, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan. Now go to the right side. Watch this. People at the, okay. Yeah. Tennessee, Jersey. So now Tennessee's around the same average as national. California, Bama, Florida, Dakota, Oregon, or or Georgia, Iowa now look at all the way in the bottom
Starting point is 01:53:49 Missouri's like I could care less. Yeah, West Virginia's like what? You see even DC do you see these guys they're about to hire their next boss There's a damn I'm gonna know what's really going on. We're so how you processing these states back because I have some I have some opinions I want to get I know what you're gonna say. I know what I'm gonna say. You're gonna say blue state watches That's a good no, no Well, if you go down there, I know I don't want to Well, if you go down there, I don't want to, uh, Rob, can I see the States please? Most of the States, uh, are already it's decided. We know that Missouri is going red.
Starting point is 01:54:32 We know that West Virginia is one of the reddest States in the country, South Carolina, uh, Lindsey Graham out there hanging out with his man friends out there. He, you know, he ain't watching this thing. DC interesting because you would see that they would be enthralled in this, but like, we already know that we're going blue. We're going to Kamala. Uh, Ohio's going red. JD Vance.
Starting point is 01:54:51 We know that New Mexico. Here's where it gets weird. Arizona. You figured they wouldn't be at full attention. No pun intended with what's going on in the election. So that's interesting right there. We know New York's going blue, despite Trump saying these potentially win. But most of these States, with the exception of Georgia
Starting point is 01:55:06 right there, it's sort of already determined. So it just goes to show that no matter what, you know how they say you can always tell when a recession is coming? Seriously, strip clubs, because that is called discretionary income, discretionary spending, that strippers always know when it's not making it rain anymore in the economy right now. So here's just, yeah, right? Because you know, most guys, they go there, they spend their money, discretionary spending. Strippers out there, they know, say, oh, oh, I think there's a recession coming. I'm not, I'm getting, why am I getting changed instead of dollars?
Starting point is 01:55:40 Let's make it fold, not jingle. So this is also a flashing red light to see what's going on with the economy. Tom, you look like you're a kindergartner cracking a joke. What's going on? No, I was just turning red. Tom. No, no, just not appropriate. As usual. I was semi-patiently waiting for you to get to a point, but you know, I think really what's going on here. If you take a look at these states, I think some of this prevents assassinations. Why would you say that? Because if these men don't get relief,
Starting point is 01:56:11 you could have some of them becoming assassins because they leave the house without relief and they just want to shoot somebody. So it's... Tom. Tom. That is a... It's Pastor Tom. I love it.
Starting point is 01:56:24 Tom, I expect that from me, maybe even Vinny, not you Tom. You're better than that. No, come on, it's Tom. All right, well listen, for what it's worth, we just kind of saw that data come up with an article in New York Post. Tom, back in PBD, you didn't give me how you're processing the data. What's going on in Missouri? I already told you.
Starting point is 01:56:37 It's interesting when you see DC, why are you not paying attention to who your boss is going to be? You got to pay attention, you're not paying attention to it. Well, maybe because they know they don't really run it. They're like, we already know who our boss is and his name is not gonna be Kamala. It's gonna be probably somebody named Nancy, Chuck or something else, then whoever it's gonna be. Missouri. What's the Missouri situation? All right, let's go here. Let's go to the next one here and I'll wrap up. Where is the
Starting point is 01:57:03 one with Elon Musk? There you go. Elon Musk's quest to make men great again. Elon Musk's quest with making men great again. Continues to publicly embrace a tough guy, bro persona, amplifying posts about alpha males and making crude jokes. He recently tweeted an offer to impregnate Taylor Swift and joked about male anatomy on national television. Musk supports a republic of high-status males for decision-making, saying this is why a
Starting point is 01:57:34 republic of high-status males is the best for decision-making. Musk has openly aligned himself with strongman figures like Trump, praising his toughness by recounting a story of Trump standing bloodied after a would-be assassination. Musk and Trump defiant sent a clear message to global bad actors, adding, if the American president is somewhat that, like evil dictators are scared of, that makes a huge difference to the security of the world. Adam, thoughts on the story? Well, specifically we're talking about what Gen Z and the fact that they need some male
Starting point is 01:58:05 role models in their life. Now, Elon Musk, I think he's reverse engineering what it means to be a man because the fact that people are going to look up to be Elon Musk, I think is an anomaly. It's not realistic. You're not going to grow up. You're not going to be the richest man in the world, but there is some deeper meaning to what's going on here. I think the biggest divisiveness in America today is men versus women.
Starting point is 01:58:28 Because if you look who's trending towards who's voting towards Trump, it's predominantly men who care about the economy, first and foremost, the border, but also married people, including women. If you actually look at who's voting left, it's predominantly women who tend to be single and their major issues are abortion and climate change. So there's just total polarity with what people are looking for. Now as far as Gen Z and what's going on with them, because there's another story here about snowflakeism. Was that right next to that story, Pat? Snowflake Gen Z
Starting point is 01:59:03 hires are easily offended and what Elon Musk is doing to make men great again. The problem with Gen Z is a lot of it comes down to social media and everything that starts with an S, whether it's social media, whether it's shootings in school, whether it's stress, whether it's societal pressures of what it means to be a man, whether it's student loans, whether it's self-esteem, whether it's societal pressures of what it means to be a man, whether it's student loans, whether it's self-esteem, whether it's substance abuse, including porn, all these S words that are just sort of buzzwords for what's going on with young men and young women today. I believe that Gen Z is the most confused generation in human history because of
Starting point is 01:59:38 one reason and one reason only because of the first generation to grow up with this in their hands. And we're starting to see laws like the Santas is basically saying you can't be on social media until you're 15. I totally understand that. Uh, it's super concerning and we're starting to see girls specifically with body image issues, beauty standards issues. They've been raised on Kardashians. They were told by, uh, Kendall and Kylie Jenner to get lip fillers. That's what's make you going to look beautiful. You're going to get breast augments augmentation. That's what's going to make you look beautiful.
Starting point is 02:00:06 And all these beauty standards are on the outside. But on the inside, a lot of people are dealing with moral rot and moral decay. And they're more interested in taking selfies than being selfless and actually helping people around them. That's why community involvement is going down so much. You also have a lot of young women confused between career versus family. We saw what happened with Harrison Booker and all that the rise of modern feminism has not been good for women. It's a problem. But at the same time, men have been told that if you're act like a man and behave like a man that it's toxic. Okay, so it should be more like Andrew Tate or should be more like Dylan Mulvaney. I'll take Tate for 1000 Chuck.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Then you have toxic masculinity, you want to get make money, get rich quick. There's so many things, especially work life balance that young men have to basically decide between. I've been told to do work life balance, but then if I actually want to get ahead, I actually have to work my tail off. There's a lot of confusion, confusing things that are going on with Gen Z right now. And if it takes Elon Musk of all people basically basically saying, stand for masculinity and stand for things, even though he sometimes does it like a kindergartner would with the 69 jokes and his 420 jokes, we know that we need all the help we can get with men these days.
Starting point is 02:01:14 You know, this, this there's data behind this too. And that is just today, pirate wires, Riley Norick was reporting that women 18 to 29 today are far more likely to be liberal than they were 10 years ago. That same age group among men 18 to 29, it's equal. They're actually down a half point. So 10 years, you get that Adam? Over 10 years women are far more likely to be liberal 18 to 29 men are just a tick less likely to be liberal Which explains the plunging birth rate? Yeah, because when the women become you can tell the symptoms of the women that are hard liberal the purplish hair the focus on me Starting your sentences with my analyst says right so
Starting point is 02:02:02 There is it you know what it shows in the plunging birth rate and the women more likely to be the men? It shows that there is a level of crazy that men will not accept, you know, just to get laid. You know, that's what it shows. Because they're not in relationships with each other. The men of that age, the likelihood of them being in relationship with someone in their same age group
Starting point is 02:02:24 is subtly dropping. Why? Because so many of them being in relationship with someone in their same age group is subtly dropping. Why? Because so many of our farmers are to be liberals. So there's no punchline or joke here. This is just stats backing up what you're saying. But everything with school has been, you know, what's the whole 13 to 1 liberal versus conservative professors?
Starting point is 02:02:40 It's sort of cascading down to society. So I went to the Capitol one the other day to go like look into a bank situation. And there was just, he was like a dude. You can just tell he was a dude, black dude, whatever. He's like, Hey, what's up, man? How can I help you? And I noticed on his tag, it had a he him. And I go, I didn't know how to approach it. I'm like, what's up with the name tag? You, you, you, he, him. He's like, ah, you know, they kind of, they kind of like made me do it. I don't know. I don't, I don't know. I was like, did you want to, are you, and he's like, dude, I don't want this shit. He didn't want
Starting point is 02:03:13 it on his, on his tag is what my point, but he got sort of pushed into it. You gotta pick a, he, him, they, them, the, them, she, her, we, we, whatever it is, cisgender, what's going on. I don't, it's so confusing. I'm just like, I'm just a dude. That's all I kind of want to say to the guy. But you can see even in this case example of a guy, he's like, dude, I'm just trying to work and get a job. Now they're making me, they're forcing me to pick a he, him situation. Whereas women, we all know that they don't want to offend anybody there. They're going to put the she, her, we, we, the, them, whatever the hell these things are. Whereas dudes, they're going to be annoyed by it, there. They're going to put the she, her, we, we, the, them, whatever the hell these things are. Whereas dudes, they're going to be annoyed by it, but still they're going to play ball
Starting point is 02:03:48 so they don't offend. Here's the story. The story is up right there. So we'll be in the plunging birth rate among these women, 1829 plunging birth rate, which shows you that socialism and communism in, in women is the biggest anti-Aphrodisiac in history. Yeah. And guess what? Girls though, can we just toot our own horns? Republicans, us, value tainment. Like we look better than the, like, when's the,
Starting point is 02:04:16 who's the girl that made that video? She drove by the vault. This girl, she was like, oh my God, I just drove by the vault and I'm seeing these handsome, manly. Did you see you? You sent it to me, right? Bob, do you have that? I remember her. I was standing up front by myself. Everybody else was in the studio. I was all by myself standing out there. She honked and I was waving. That was me. That's exactly what it was. You and Pat's gonna, I think Pat's gonna send it to Rob, but it just, just an Adam, just that mindset. Those,
Starting point is 02:04:41 those girls that are just liberal, they're not attractive like I go to these events these Republican events We've been to Mar-a-Lago the women just look freaking gorgeous cuz they're not they don't have that virus That's that's coursing through their freaking veins. I'm sorry to say but I'm not sorry. We look better. We're more confident We love the opposite sex. I love women that want the man to be a man It's not none of this crazy like look at look at, when you see like a Rosie O'Donnell. I saw Vinny pulls up to this girl, okay? It's crazy, it's me and Adam on the set and Vinny sees this and he goes up to her.
Starting point is 02:05:12 He says, baby girl, what's your name? Let me talk to you, let me buy you a drink. I'm Vinny. You know me. I'm like Vinny, I'm so impressed. What's the chance of you going home with Vinny? Close at three. She drive and she know it.
Starting point is 02:05:30 She drive and she know it. She drive and she know it. She turn the building. This is the girl, right? Yeah, that's the girl. Did she sing that song? No, but this girl. Go ahead, Rob.
Starting point is 02:05:37 What's the chance of you coming home with P.E.D. This is what happens when you see Tom on the corner crossing the street. Go ahead. Rob, we need audio. There you go. She's cute. It's not Camelot, you can turn up the volume.
Starting point is 02:05:50 Bottom is Audigo. Never in my life have I ever seen a group of more attractive men than today in West Palm Beach. There was an event going on called The Vault. I think from what I could see online and just Googling it, it's like some type of business, leadership, entrepreneurial conference or workshop. They were hundreds of men that all were put together,
Starting point is 02:06:10 dressed up, and just like looked so good. What about you, Taylor, you damn right! Like from their appearance, but also they were all gorgeous. Thank you, Tom. Like if you like the vault and you're a man, comment below, like drop your out. I don't know what to say. Like they were gorgeous. I'm already there. Every single drop your out. I don't know what But I walk in, you're up there,
Starting point is 02:06:45 and I'm not being that guy, I'm not being facetious. It looked like what the movement, what we talk about, what we're driving, you were like this in the front, and it was just an army of people, like-minded, positive souls, trying to be better, pro-America, pro-God, pro-life, and I'm telling you,
Starting point is 02:07:02 and this goes to this point, it exudes, it comes off of you, your appearance, your energy, your vibe. The other side is just angry, bitter, hate. And that's why the women, Tom, have these orange hair. They're all angry. They're all sitting around on the view, just hating life. It's like, you're not going to change unless you change your mentality. And that's it. And look up, look how beautiful she is and she wants us. And by the way, this is how- She wants you.
Starting point is 02:07:22 What's your name? She's got my own name. What's your name? Yeah. By the way, do you think that this is a, an anomaly? This is a one-off that this is what women want or actually this is probably what most women do want. I mean, they're being told most women are interested in pansies and soft guys soft like, well that's what you, if you, if you feed, if you listen to the narrative, that's how like the Barbie movie and everything that happened with that and down with the patriarchy and how the women want basically soft feminine men, they're led to believe this, but men
Starting point is 02:07:53 need to understand that it's okay. Not only just okay to be a man, it is necessary to be the man. Because if you actually listen to women who want men, they want masculine, strong dominant providers, protectors, not these Dylan Mulvaney pansy types, but the women on the left are like, no, I'd rather have a guy. You end up with Ken. Exactly. And Lippe has no man parts. A weak guy with no job who trusts his crew.
Starting point is 02:08:16 And girls, if you want to talk about it, if you want to talk about it, that's my Manette right there. We could talk about the vault. We could talk about life, about, we could just talk about it. If you want to talk about it, that's my Manek right there. We could talk about the vault. We could talk about life, about, we could just talk about it all. Get on there, Manek. And by the way, women entrepreneurs, if you're out there, we celebrate you too. There were a lot of female entrepreneurs at the vault that were there. There were a lot of spouses on both sides. It was really amazing. It was for everybody.
Starting point is 02:08:42 But I can't, again, tomorrow, the Rock interview will be released here on PBD podcast. Okay, it'll go out 9 a.m. But next year's vault conference, two things, November 5th, put it in your calendar. I'll most likely announce it end of this week and it will be crazy. November 5th, put in your, if I don't announce it this Friday, it's most likely next Tuesday, I'll announce it because we'll have the flyer details, everything completed. But both of those events, 5th and next year's vault, it's just something's happening. I was telling the guy, I'm at this event, at this Clever Investors, and I'm speaking at this, you were with me backstage.
Starting point is 02:09:19 Oh, ridiculous. Oh my God. And I'm backstage and I'm telling him, I said, if only people knew what we're working on behind closed doors that nobody is aware of, knew what we're working on behind closed doors that nobody is Aware of of what we're working on behind closed doors. That's what's exciting about it. Anyways gang Vinny the other day does a I had no idea Vinny was a former chiropractor Yeah, Vinny was a chiropractor and in that clip, you know how many views that thing has And that clip, do you know how many views that thing has? No, but I love that thing.
Starting point is 02:09:43 If you have to guess, if you have to guess, right now. You want to take a wild guess how many views Vinny's clip has. On Instagram. On Instagram. Just take a wild guess. Does he have it or no? Rob, you have it, right? It's on my Instagram.
Starting point is 02:09:59 I'm going to send it to you. 5 million. How many views? Don't say anything. I'm not saying nothing. Yeah. How about try it's got 3 million likes. Go to Reels, Rob. Go to Reels so they can see it. Go to Reels. 10 million. How many views? Don't say anything. I'm not saying nothing. Yeah, how about try it's got three million likes. Go to Reels, Rob, go to Reels so they can see it.
Starting point is 02:10:06 Click on it. Go to Reels. 10 million. Up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. And breathe. Just relax, take a deep breath. Be a maverick. Okay, just be loose, deep breath. That's good, good. Good, good, good. Nice and relaxed.
Starting point is 02:10:34 Take a deep breath, deep breath. Okay, nice. Okay, good. Loose, loose, loose. I'm gonna break his arm here. Good, good. Okay, deep breath. Future looks bright.
Starting point is 02:10:44 Just make it loose. Of course. Just a head shot. Okay, deep breath. Future looks bright. Of course. 90, 90. Did you feel the pop? Okay, take a deep breath and exhale. That's crazy. Did you feel the release? You're doing great. You're doing fantastic.
Starting point is 02:10:55 Yes, yes, yes. 90 million people have seen those. It just tells you, people just sometimes wanna laugh. They're like, with all the stuff that's going on, man, I just need to laugh a little bit. Anyways, yank. Another episode today, tomorrow, rock, Tuesday, Thursday, we'll do another one.
Starting point is 02:11:14 Do we have a home team Thursday? Is that what's going on? We do a home team Thursday, and then an interview will be out on Friday as well. That's right. Shout out to T-Pain, by the way. He got a nice shout out today. He did, but that's, I mean, I've never seen a guy flirt with girls the way Vinny did it,
Starting point is 02:11:26 just pulling up. Okay, it was so impressive. Ladies, gents, take care, God bless, bye bye bye bye.

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