PBD Podcast - Trump's VP J.D. Vance, RFK Jr. & Trump Call LEAKED, Jack Black Cancels Tour | PBD Podcast | Ep. 440

Starting point is 00:00:00 Alright, episode 440, we got the angry patriot Vinny with us, as well as the biz doc, Tom Ellsworth. Adam is still recovering from a singing, he was doing opera and he's recovering from some kind of a procedure he's going through but he's gonna be okay. We got a lot of things to cover. A lot of things to cover. One of the things we gotta cover is the fact that now we know who our VP is, JD Vance, there's a lot of stuff.

Starting point is 00:00:55 The moment they were getting clue, announcing that he's gonna be the VP, everybody lost their minds, motorcade showing up to his house, the phone call he got, and Trump talks to his seven-year-old son when they're getting the news, and the interviews, the criticism from the left and the right, and a bunch of people getting after him. I got my thoughts on JD Vance. We'll talk about that. What I do want to talk about is how the market has reacted since the event that took place just this past weekend.

Starting point is 00:01:22 Tom's got some updates on that that we have to be talking about because You know, it seems like the market is convinced the 2024 election is over meaning Trump's gonna be winning it now Obviously, you know in 2016 the market Wall Street said it's over in August They thought Hillary was gonna win it and a market tank I don't know if you remember this time Tom, when it was getting closer, August, September was like, yeah, Hillary's going to win it. Market tanked. This time around, they're like, there's no way anybody can beat Trump.

Starting point is 00:01:51 So the market's gone up. We'll talk about that. Reaction to reactions, a lot of negatives and positives. This one guy grabs the mic. I don't know where he's at. He's going around interviewing people and says, what do you think about what happened with the President assassination attempt? Oh, it was all staged. Really? Oh, 100% it's staged. That wasn't even blood, it was an act. You have to see how many people overnight, the same people that believe the

Starting point is 00:02:16 man landed on the moon think that this was staged with him getting shot. And by the way, we watched this movie called, you know, Fly Me to the Moon. The whole movie was to try to discredit the conspiracy theory that they shot another video of the moon landing. It is the worst movie ever made if you want to convince people that we actually landed on the moon. Anyways, we can maybe have some fun with that afterwards. Let's see, Market will talk about Morning Joe. Imagine you're Morning Joe, right? They got the show and they get a call, what is it, early in the morning, Daily Show Morning, Joe canceled Monday's show after Trump assassination attempt and there's a video of him saying, well, I don't like what they did and if they do that again, and Vinny's got that clip, we'll show it to you guys.

Starting point is 00:03:01 And then aside from that, some of some classified documents being dismissed, RFK finally, finally is getting secret service after the assassination attempt. Now they're like, we better give it to them. Can you imagine how ugly and bad of a look it is to do it after an attempt being made on the former president? And now Mayorkas has to come out and kind of say, no, we're going to give that to RFK after Trump tweeted that and saying he deserves it, they gave it to him. And then on top of that, Mayorkas and talking about the Secret Service leader, is she doing a good job?

Starting point is 00:03:35 Is she not doing a good job? Are we going to do anything about it? Are we going to change anything about it? And that's the Kim Cheadle. And she even did an interview talking about the fact that, well, the buck stops with me. However, you know, it's really the local police. It's not really us. It's not a little bit of deflecting. But guess what? That person's not getting fired. I know another guy, if he was the president, and something like this would have happened, he probably would have immediately said the two words, which are, Vinny, what are the two

Starting point is 00:04:02 words? He would have said, you're fired. You're fired. You're fired. He would have been fired. Tim Robbins, the actor, not happy about some of the stuff that's being said. Business leaders responding to the assassination attempt. CNN viewership drops 96% after the debate. We'll talk about that. CNN quietly is getting rid of their DEI program that they had. The whole thing is kind of like, listen, quietly, let's get rid of it. It's a big budget and it's not really doing a lot for us. AT&T admits major data breach. Ammunition vending machines. Now we're in three states. Can you imagine? Ammunition vending machines. Yeah, you know, I'd like to buy a carton of, ah, right there. I'm going to buy two cartons of that out of a vending machine.

Starting point is 00:04:51 Is buying a home still worth it? The Hill, nearly half of Gen Zers get back, get help from Bank of? Mom and Dad. They're still being sponsored by them. And American workers have quit quitting, according to Wall Street Journal. And we've got a bunch of other stories. Jack Black, a video, we'll show up here in a minute. Doug Bergen getting a phone call from President Trump and being told, hey, Mr. Secretary,

Starting point is 00:05:15 meaning you're not the VP, but you may be the secretary. And Doug openly talks about that. And there's a bunch of other things we'll get into as well. But let me first say this before we get into the stories Uh, I have an event I can nearly 10 000 people at the event. It'll be a palm beach convention center I'm having a lot of conversations with people who are saying pat. How do you react to the current times? I said if there's anything you do today, don't go through it by yourself Go to an actual conference to be around other people and building relationships with other people

Starting point is 00:05:48 You got to go to something where you run others and you're strategizing and networking with others So we have that coming up first week of September the vault conference excited about that for three days and There's five tiers of tickets to be buying for that event. CEO sold out, founder sold out, executive sold out. The only one that we have left is platinum in general. I would advise everybody from running a small business doing $100,000 a year to somebody running a billion dollar business, doing 10,000 employees. You're gonna meet a lot of influencers

Starting point is 00:06:19 that will be at that event first week of September. If you haven't registered Rob, I don't know if you got the picture to show that or not. You can also go to vtmerch.com to buy the ticket as well as I think it's just go to the vaultconference.com to pick up the ticket for that. Rob, I don't know if you have that. If you do show it. not, Rob? Rob, are you on or do we lose you? Why? Do we lose you? There he is.

Starting point is 00:06:52 I see Rob's shiny head, Pat. Okay, you can go to thevaultconference.com. That's the event. Is this the website? What's the website, Rob, here? You can go to the, Rob, we can't hear anything. You're sick, buddy. This entire time you're speaking, we can't hear anything you're saying buddy. This entire time you're speaking, I can't hear you. You can go to thevaultconference.com to get tickets. And on

Starting point is 00:07:10 top of that, this month, July 30th at 6 PM, I'm doing a Zoom in regards to the AI revolution, which we're going to release a white paper, which we'll give to you. And if you haven't yet registered for that either, here's a QR code to get registered for the event that we're going to be having. It's a private webinar. It's only limited to 3,000 people. It's not something that's going to be available to everybody. It's first come, first served.

Starting point is 00:07:36 You register, you'll be able to be a part of it. Rob, if you have that flyer to show for the AI Revolution Zoom that we're hosting as well, so people can go on the QR code and get registered. That'd be great. It's that right there. Just go on that QR code, register for it. AI's here for business. A lot of people are leveraging it to win and take their businesses to the next level.

Starting point is 00:07:55 It's how we took our business to take the valuation of it 3X more than what it was. We went from 5x EBITDA to 15x EBITDA. We're doing this webinar this month, free, but you've got to make sure you get a spot on it. Again, July 30th, Tuesday 6pm EST, go to the QR code to get registered. Okay. Let's get right into it. Tom, the question I've got for you is, how has the market reacted after the assassination attempt? I'm talking Dow, S&P, Bitcoin, gold, oil. How has the market reacted since the assassination attempt? Well, markets love stability and the markets got stability. What they want to know is they want to

Starting point is 00:08:43 know clear path to like when we, Jerome Powell makes positive statements and people say, oh, we are going to get a rate cut. I see that certainty and that is stability. Markets love that. And what they got was polling on the 13th was already showing that things were moving. So the markets were getting happy about stability in terms of economic policies they like with Trump. Then after the assassination attempt, we may have thought of it as a lot of disorder, but the market was immediately saying, you know what, this is more certain that Trump will

Starting point is 00:09:15 be elected. There were a lot of people feeling that way. That's what the market felt. So the market loves stability and it feels that, thank goodness he was in the Senate, and what out of disorder came order and stability. Market likes that. What does that mean to the average person? The average person, that means that the market is going to be hopefully more stable for prices. Oil went down a little bit because the market thinks Trump's going to drill in the US. Lower cost US oil, lower cost heating

Starting point is 00:09:45 in the winter and lower cost gasoline. All of those things are stability measures that benefit the consumer, benefit the stock market. So the stock markets overall were very pleased that the outcome, because it's bringing certainty to the election, more confidence that Trump will be elected, more confidence and more preference for the economic policies of Trump versus Biden. And by the way, it's not like it was a slow reaction. It was a sudden reaction.

Starting point is 00:10:17 And Tom, the feeling I'm getting when I'm talking to people, a lot of people you talk to, they're saying, well, this is over with. Trump's going to be winning this thing here. And the chance of anything changing is going to be very small, if none, because of him losing. Because of all the conditions that are taking place where the emotional fire, even Dana White, if you guys haven't seen this, Vinny, I'm not going to play this, three and a half minutes. Yesterday we were driving back with Vinny and we're watching this clip together on the drive. You watch what Dana says.

Starting point is 00:10:52 Dana's like, I'm on a flight to Italy. I get a call saying, yeah, I get a text saying he got shot. I don't even know what happened. I call him, we have a 30 minute conversation together. And he says, he's talking to me like me like he says you realize how tough somebody is when the shit hits the fan you realize when shit hits the fan he says this guy's the baddest American of all time he called him the American badass for what he is I think that brings confidence to the marketplace on what's going on in regards to the economy

Starting point is 00:11:21 but Tom at the same time I want to talk about a couple things in regards to the economy. But Tom, at the same time, I want to talk about a couple things in regards to today's economy. One of the stories that we were looking at was about Americans, you know, quit quitting. What page is that on, Rob, if you can tell me that story so I can go to it? Because I'm here for whatever reason. Let me see. There we go. So here's a story from Wall Street Journal. It says American workers have quit quitting for now. Job satisfaction among U.S. workers is rising, with fewer people looking to switch jobs compared to the pandemic years. A Robert Half poll found that only 35% of adults look for another job in the second

Starting point is 00:12:00 half of this year, down from 49% a year ago. Additionally, 77% of workers reported being happy with their jobs and 85% said they have a good work-life balance. The rate of quitting jobs has decreased from a peak of 3% in April of 2022 to 2.2% according to Labor Department data. The decline is linked to a tighter job market and shrinking pay premiums for job switchers. For example, job switchers saw a median pay increase of 5.2% in March of 2024, down from 8.5% two years ago, while job stayers received a 4.5% increase. Young workers, particularly Gen Z, show a significant shift in job shifting sentiment.

Starting point is 00:12:42 The percentage of Gen Zers planning to look for another job in the second half of 2024 drop to 44 percent down from 74% top unemployment rates and then talking about interest rates Hey, he's gonna be lower in interest and now pretty much you said earlier We're talking the fact that interest rates are guaranteed, not can't say guaranteed, he's going to be lowering interest rates in the month of September. What's the numbers you're seeing with unemployment causing people to quit quitting and what are you noticing with what Powell is going to do with interest rates?

Starting point is 00:13:18 Good things are going on right now. An election brings uncertainty. So businesses are a little uncertain about opening up a lot of job openings. So there's fewer white collar premium job openings. So why would I quit one job, go to work for another job, especially when the delta we just heard, I could get as a performer, a 4% raise at my current job, I can only get about a 5.2% raise to walk across the street. That's a statue just quoted. Remember back in 2022, 21, I could get an 8, 9, 10% raise to walk across the street or I tried to hold my boss hostage.

Starting point is 00:13:58 You don't give me the big raise, I quit. By the way, I want to bring my dog to work and I want to work from home and all those things. Remember that madness? Now the madness is calming down. So there's fewer jobs across the street and they're not getting an 8% to 10% pop to take the job causing people to say, you know what? This job isn't so bad. Being back in the office isn't so bad. You know what?

Starting point is 00:14:20 I'll stay here. That's the quitting part. The other side of it is in an election year, businesses are trying to wait and see what's going to happen because they're very interested in March of 25. That will be the implementation date of the economic policies of a new president. Remember, they got to get inaugurated, then they got to get their cabinet approved by Congress, then the new Congress gets together and only then do they actually lift the finger on economic or tax policy. Q1 of 25. So between now and Q1 of 25, a lot of businesses are like, wait a minute, maybe let's not go

Starting point is 00:14:57 on a hiring spree right now. Let's not make a lot of changes right now. Let's find out who's going to be president. Let's find out who's going to be the secretary of treasury, who's going to be, you know, the Fed is going to continue to the end of his natural term. What's going on here? So for the average worker, if you've got a great job right now, or even have a good job right now, then my recommendation is you right. Position your armor and get that four or five percent raise because walking across the street in 2022 you're not going to get.

Starting point is 00:15:32 Okay, Tom, here's what I need you to do. Sam is going to walk in, Sam is going to walk in and he's going to check on your phone. Sam, if you can help Tom out, something's going on with Tom service is not good. Tom, you switch with a signal and your service dropped. Vinny, this is what I want to do. Let's talk about Jack Black. He is doing an event, right? And something's happening where all of a sudden,

Starting point is 00:15:55 one of the, they're asking him to make us, apparently at someone's birthday, he's asking him, hey, what wish do you want to make? And then he makes a comment that causes potentially the tour to get canceled Yeah, kind of give us a breakdown of what happened there. Yeah, Pat. So uh, so uh, so he's on tour right now tenacious D with his singing partner Kyle got a glass and Kyle gas GSS and Apparently he goes upstage. He's singing. It's his birthday. So they're singing happy birthday they bring out like this guy and like a costume looks like a

Starting point is 00:16:27 like a like a robot and they sing him happy birthday and this yeah, I I'll set it up Robin. You can play they're singing him. Happy birthday PBD and he says, you know Make your wish and his wish is don't miss Trump next time and this is in Australia Embarrassing as hell. I'll let Rob play a PBD and we can talk about it Okay, so yeah, so first of all, disgusting. I think this MPD we've been talking about this all the time the left. They are exactly what they say that you know the other side is they're those people. Okay, when it when it talks about they accuse everybody about being racist they're the racist like you mentioned earlier about them saying that this was all stage they're the conspiracy theorists they're the side that's the threat to democracy and they're the side that's that's evil in my mind so that being said just 17 minutes before the podcast started PBT Jack Black announcement has cancelled the rest of his tour good for him he received intense backlash after the

Starting point is 00:17:44 band-mate did what he did an Australian politician Also made a formal request for Jack Black and his friend to be deported immediately Rob has the the tweet that Jack Black posted I'm gonna I'll say what he said He says I was blindsided by what was said at the show on Sunday I would never condone hate speech or encourage political violence in any form. After much reflection, I no longer feel it is appropriate to continue the Tenacious Detour and all future creative plans are on hold. I'm grateful to the fans for their support and understanding." So one stupid comment from your ignorant leftist

Starting point is 00:18:24 bandmate and that's it. But if you think about it pat you know this how many million like he's gonna lose a couple million dollars Because of a stupid comment going on foreign land and saying don't miss next time so I want people to understand this you're basically Saying I wish and I hope that the former president of the United States was murdered and assassinated and he's pissed off that he hasn't. And we talked about this this morning, Pat. This sentiment, either they're saying it out loud or they're saying it at home amongst their friends, it's happening way more than you guys think. And I think it's disgusting.

Starting point is 00:18:58 And I'm actually really, really happy that the tour is canceled because that type of rhetoric, they always blame us for this rhetoric. It's them, Pat. It's them. It's this Jack. I was blindsided about what we said on the show on Sunday. I would never condone hate speech and encourage political violence. Yeah, there you go. No comments. Just posted that and boom, 200, 2000 likes. And by the way, Jack Black is a liked guy. Most people on the right like his comedy. It's not like it's a left right center thing. He's liked, like it's not like he's disliked. But you know, the moment you make comments like this, or a friend of yours makes a comment like that, you're guilty by association. And there's probably never a good time to say anything like that. And by the way, if that

Starting point is 00:19:43 guy was a comedian, say that guy was a comedian, it said that still a bad taste to say anything like that. And by the way, if that guy was a comedian, say that guy was a comedian and said that, still a bad taste to say something like that. But to say it while you're performing, singing, doing what you're doing, maybe the other guy is also a comedian that said what he said. But not acceptable at all. And by the way, there's another video Rob,

Starting point is 00:20:00 this guy is going around, guy on Manette asked me a question, and says, hey Pat, my wife is a hardcore liberal. I am a conservative. That's an interesting marriage, right? With them being married to each other. He says, my wife, the moment it happened, she said, oh, that's staged. There's no way that's real. Let's catch up. There's no way he you know somebody try to shoot it They're staging it to get him to be a light to the president Trump. There's no way this is real You know and I'm like, there's no way your wife would say such a thing Then you realize a lot of people actually believe it was staged at the beginning

Starting point is 00:20:43 So this guy Rob, I just send you this clip if you can pull it up. This guy's going around asking people, what do you think about what happened with the assassination attempt? And the answers people are given is ridiculous, okay? To think, by the way, I can guarantee you, these are the same people that believe in Russia collusion. These are the same people that believe man landed on the moon. These are the same people that probably believe that JFK was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald.

Starting point is 00:21:16 These are the same people that believe in all that stuff. Yet at the same time, that was catch up on what happened to President Trump. And the guy asks, he says, but how about the fact that other people died? He says, no, it's staged. Go ahead and play it, Rob, go for it. Oh, it's a false flag. False flag. Yeah, false flag. People, somebody died and two people injured.

Starting point is 00:21:36 What do you think about that? False flag. False flag. I thought it was magnificently staged. It was professionally done. It almost looked real. Wait, wait, wait. Staged by who? Oh, by Mr. Trump, of course.

Starting point is 00:21:48 I think this whole thing is staged. You think it's staged? Yeah. It depends on everybody's view. View of the assassination attempt? What do you think? Does it kind of depend on where you're standing? Does it depend on whether or not you agree with the assassination attempt or disagree with it? I just don't see... I just don't see... I just don't see that being the truth, but that's my... I just I'd rather just not make any comment. Really quick. What's the... what's... what are you talking about the truth? What do you mean?

Starting point is 00:22:13 Oh, you just don't believe it was an assassination attempt? No, no. Please don't. We're so anti-Trump. I don't even want to... Was it a bad thing, though? I mean... Was it a bad thing? Would you condemn it? Oh, that he got shot at? Of course.

Starting point is 00:22:27 Of course you don't do that. That's all massacred. Yeah, that's really bad. Yeah, exactly. You don't do that. Was it staged probably? Staged? Okay, so you think Trump maybe staged a fake assassination for support?

Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah, he's backing up. And that resulted in somebody dying and other people being critically injured. I haven't seen the news today. I'm not here for the news. I haven't seen anything. I'm on vacation. He just thought it was fake. California, of course.

Starting point is 00:22:53 One person died in the crowd too critically injured. What happened there? Small price. It doesn't matter to Trump. Do you think he cares that people die for him to be elected? This doesn't mean anything to Trump. Now staged from whose side? You think Donald Trump staged it for attention?

Starting point is 00:23:07 Maybe that's your friend. I love my boy. I'm trying to make a scene or something, but the fact that he only got his ear and he would like sit up and said America, I don't know, come on. It doesn't feel normal. What is our evidence for suggesting

Starting point is 00:23:18 that it was a staged fake assassination attempt? I think that he walked away alive with perhaps a scratch on his ear. Yeah, grazed his ear. Yeah, yeah. Of course, you know, behind the scenes, they were, that was all fabricated. Some know where they put a little scratch on his ear, threw a little blood on his face. And now, so you think that they planned from 130 yards away to shoot off the corner of his ear?

Starting point is 00:23:40 They never shot off the corner of his ear. That was all done by the people hanging around him. Nobody ever shot off his ear. They never shot off the corner of his ear. That was all done by the people hanging around him. Nobody ever shot off his ear. Okay, okay. So you just see it grazing his ear as maybe not, you know, maybe not real. What about the people that died and what about the father that died in the stand as well as the others that were critically injured? I don't know. I'm not I can't tell but to me it just looks like it was planned and plus that guy's soul

Starting point is 00:24:01 for dying for this cause. I'm so sorry for that person's family. So do you think I mean if we're thinking that the Trump and that's a big thing to think is is that Donald Trump's administration? faked an assassination To try to do this. What is our would you say our reasoning is for saying that or we have no reason? Just the feeling I haven't paid attention to anything You get the idea that some people think this was staged and then yesterday at the RNC, Trump walks in. When he walks in yesterday at the RNC, something very

Starting point is 00:24:36 interesting happened that everybody on mainstream media reacted even though they didn't want to. Rob, if you can find this clip, one is when he walks in and he's got a patch on his ear and then the second one is when he and Junior make eye contact. If you see Junior's face, you can tell he is very emotional when you look at Junior. But first, Rob, if you just find a clip, it's all over X and we have it as well. Well, he is very emotional when you look at Junior. But first, Rob, if you just find a clip, it's all over X and we have it as well, of President Trump walking in. And this is the first time people see that he has a bandaid or some kind of a patch on

Starting point is 00:25:15 his ear. And then we'll find the one with Junior and Trump making eye contact. Very, very emotional. Guy was showing a clip today with the two together, it's the Lion King scene and Trump and Jr. together and obviously it could have been the Lion King scene, it didn't happen. But this is where you can tell the son is looking at his dad same and I lost, I almost lost my hero. You know, I almost lost my father, I almost lost my best friend, I almost lost the man that I look up to and how close of a call it is and the cameras are on him and he can't

Starting point is 00:25:50 help himself. So Rob, if you got it, if you can just show it when he's walking in. Look at his face though. Look at his face, his emotions. And Elton, who's dressed in good nights. All he's telling himself is hold it together. You can feel the sincere. He doesn't look arrogant this is it, East, I think is right there. Hodge Junior. That's the main eye contact you want to see. Coming up. I'm sorry.

Starting point is 00:27:25 I read. Watch juniors are. And that is to elect Donald J Trump as the next president of the United States. See the lip? Yeah. The love of a son for father. He's here tonight to show his courage. His defiance against somebody who tried to kill him.

Starting point is 00:27:47 You will not take this man down. He has the courage, the strength, and he will be the president of the United States. You know, I don't have any problem with people speculating and saying it was a hoax, it was staged, it was any of this stuff. Totally fine. But why would somebody say that? Think about why somebody would say that. Somebody would say that because they know it's over. They know it's over. You can't teach in the middle of you getting shot and blood is coming down your face on your nose and you put your hand up, they know it's over. They know this is a leader.

Starting point is 00:28:27 They know this is a tough guy. They know this is the right guy for the job for this season. They know. They know what he's going to do the moment he gets in. He's going to call a meeting between Zelensky and Putin and get it over with. They know China's going to sit on the sidelines saying we're not doing nothing to Taiwan. They know Hamas, Israel, all that stuff's gonna be shut down the moment he's in. They know. They're fearing he's capable of doing that. They fear that. They know. And it's concerning for them.

Starting point is 00:28:58 So now they announce that JD Vance is the vice president. And Rob, if you have any, I'll start off by asking you, Tom, and Vinny, and then I'll give my thoughts and then we'll go into some of the market and we'll learn a little bit about JD Vance on what he did. Now JD Vance is obviously former Marine. He wrote a book called Hillbilly. What was it called? Hillbilly Valley or something? Hillbilly what Tom? What did you say? We can't hear you Tom. You're muted. So it's called Hillbilly

Starting point is 00:29:34 Tom say something. Hillbilly L-E-G-Y E-L-E-G-Y We can't hear Tom at all. Yeah, so he... No Tom, I think you're being censored intentionally. I think they just don't want you, they don't want to hear what you hear. Can you hear me now? Sam, Tom can't hear you, Tom. Say something. Tom, it's the deep state. Hello, one, two, three. Am I here?

Starting point is 00:29:57 Tom, Tom, Tom, Major Tom, come in. Say something, count to three, Tom. One, two, three, I'm here. Can't hear Tom. We can hear you, Tom. Oh, we can hear you. You know what I noticed? But before we go into JD Vance specifically, here's what I noticed. Did anybody see the wall of Secret Service?

Starting point is 00:30:24 They all appear to be at least six, two. And anybody see the wall of Secret Service? They all appear to be at least six, two. And some of the Secret Service that were on stage appear to have the day off. Did you see the wall that came in, the Secret Service guy? And this is inside the building where everybody's been triple checked with metal detectors. Looks to be a little different. Tom, your thoughts on JD Vance? Tom, your thoughts on JD Vance? That's all I have to say about that. Tom, your thoughts on JD Vance? So my thoughts on JD Vance, first of all,

Starting point is 00:30:47 I think it is a very symbolic and very future setting pick because it's a next generation, right? And it's not someone from Trump and Biden's generation. There's plenty of those in Senate and Congress and in governor's state houses to choose from. I think JD Vance is a very strong conservative guy, and I think there's an authenticity to him because his own viewpoints have moved as he's been in Washington and as America has moved. Yet, I think he's got a very solid spine, a great family, and I think he's a man of integrity. I

Starting point is 00:31:26 Really liked the pick for a lot of reasons. I like the the rumors in the comment about Doug I'll take Doug Burgum the Secretary of Energy Secretary of State. I'll take him, you know, a very wise guy strong guy Pairing with JD Vance if that's all I hear in the last 48 hours about the new administration I'm a very happy guy and very pleased with the JD Vance pick Vinny, um, well pal, like you said, you know ex-marine, you know as being a veteran and coming from a Military family like my brother my sister buddy. I love that. I respect that I know he's you know all for America the only the one thing that kind of you, cause mind you Pat, people think that once we're, if you like Trump, you're just a blind loving,

Starting point is 00:32:09 no, no, I have criticisms. One of the first things he said was, he talked about a war with Iran, which is the last thing that we wanna do. I get protecting America, but when the Biden administration unfroze $6 billion to get their freaking terrorism campaign going, he said, and I quote,

Starting point is 00:32:27 a lot of people recognize that we need to do something with Iran, but not this weak little bombing runs. If you're going to punch the Iranians, you punch them hard. So again, that type of language, that freaking earlier than me, PBD, I kinda am on the fence with it. I, you know, Trump didn't start that makes you uncomfortable. What part of him saying that makes you uncomfortable? I think, you know, you're coming in, you know, you just got the nod from Donald Trump who didn't

Starting point is 00:32:54 start any wars, who didn't get us involved anywhere. I understand that where we are now because of the Biden administration, it's, you know, you know, Israel's doing its thing with, you know, Palestine, which, you know, I have a whole point of view on that. But like, everybody has been pushing to a war with Iran, you know, from Lindsey Graham to all these guys, to all the rhinos, to everybody on the left, to Nikki Haley, they want this war. So I just feel, you know, you just got the nod, you're coming in there, you're already talking war with Iran. That's one, that's one thing that I have a little problem with. But either than that, I think he's a great guy. Yeah. And, you're already talking war with Iran, that's one thing that I have a little problem with. But either than that, I think he's a great guy.

Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah. And I think the biggest thing is to show strength is what he's doing. I think the comment he made to Sean Hannity in the interview was what Trump did when he took Hassan Soleimani out and he showed strength immediately and then Iran, you know, fake bombed the place that nobody cares about, that nobody was there just to show strength and they didn't. I think that's what he meant by that. But I have a complete different opinion about this year's 2024 VP candidate. And I said that earlier yesterday on Twitter, Vinny, President Trump could have called you

Starting point is 00:34:03 and asked you or Tom to be the VP, he would have made it work. If they announced Vincent Oshanna as the Vice President choice, they would have said, for a couple days they would write all these weird articles about you, or Tom Ellsworth, a couple days they would have written a couple articles about you, then they would have moved on. Why am I saying this? This is not to take anything away from JD. JD's a future star of the party. Some people think he's going to run for office. This is a guy that talks about his grandmother cursed

Starting point is 00:34:35 like a sailor and his mother dealt with drugs and alcohol and she had challenges with that, but she's been sober for over 10 years. And then his father was abusive. And both him and his mother experienced domestic violence, what it was like apparently, because the father was very abusive, gets out, goes to the Marines four years, then goes to Ohio State University, I believe, then goes to Yale, which by the way, at Yale, him and Vivek went to school together and he's got three kids, JD Vance has got three kids, of which one of his kids is named Vivek. I believe his youngest kid is named Vivek. And they came from the same school. By the way, Rob, I don't know if you have a picture of him. And if

Starting point is 00:35:18 you type in Vivek Ramaswamy and JD Vance Yale, you'll see a picture of them next to each other, including one other name by the way, which is Pete Buttigieg. While they were, I think there is a picture of Pete Buttigieg, but I think that's when they were asking a presidential candidate a question. Well, you should be able to pull up a picture of JD Vance and Vivek. And when they asked Vivek, Vivek immediately said, great choice, couldn't have gone better, this is a legacy, the bestk, Vivek immediately said, great choice, couldn't have gone better. This is a legacy, the best duo.

Starting point is 00:35:46 The reaction he had was such a classy reaction on the way he went about it. But let me get back to this. The reason why I say it doesn't matter who was the VP choice, obviously I'm being a little bit to try to make my point sarcastic that it doesn't matter at all. You need somebody that is qualified. But the point is, this is 99% Trump, 1% VP. This isn't 2016, which was 80% Trump, 20% VP, because they wanted a Christian stable guy come in so the conservatives could at least vote for Mike Pence. They're not voting this time for Mike Pence. They're not voting for JD Vance. Now, this is a very big pick

Starting point is 00:36:33 for JD Vance. Very big pick for JD Vance. Life changing. When he was asked, what do you think your role is as a VP? He says, well, the president can't be everywhere at the same time. He's going to need me to help him out in any areas he needs me to. And also the job of a VP is if something happens to the president, you have to be ready for the call. And he says, I don't think anything's going to happen to the president because he's very healthy. I've never seen a more energized person at his age. He is so energized. Even after he was shot when he called me to say I'm going to be the VP at a long conversation with my son, five minute conversation with my seven-year-old son, while we're in the moment celebrating, oh my God, you're going to be the VP, he's willing to do those

Starting point is 00:37:13 additional things that most people are not willing to do. And you got to respect that. And in the interim, Kamala Harris called him to congratulate him. Apparently he didn't pick up the call. Obviously, he goes to message. But, Bret Baer, which I think is the right way to do it, is immediately call out all the stuff, and Sean Hannity brought up all the stuff, it's the right way to do it. You said this about Trump. You said this about abortion. You said this about this. And he has to be able to answer those questions. Rob, I think you got one of the clips with Bret Baer if you want to prepare it and play it, I think it's important for the audience to see for some of them that didn't catch it. If you do have it, go on and play the clip. Go for it.

Starting point is 00:37:53 This is an evolution. And I know you've been asked about this before, about past comments that you've made about Donald Trump. You've said, I'm a never Trump never trump guy never liked him terrible candidate idiot if you voted for him Might be america's hitler might be a cynical a-hole cultural heroin noxious and reprehensible Those are things that this is inevitable So, you know you hear a clip like that and then political does a story Uh saying 52 things, you know 55 55 things as if, you know, they couldn't just do it with like 10 things. He decided to do a story, Politico saying 55 things you don't know about JD Vance.

Starting point is 00:38:33 Rob, if you want to pull up the clip, we'll go through it with him. One, he wrote in his hillbilly elegy, I'll be the first to admit that I've accomplished nothing great in my life. Okay? I'm not a senator, this is at the time. I'm not a governor or former cabinet secretary. I haven't started a billion dollar company or world changing nonprofit.

Starting point is 00:38:56 That's political saying that. Number two, in 2015, two years after graduating from Yale, Vance Joy, Mithral Capital, venture capital firm run by Silicon Valley, Scion Peter Thiel. Okay, that's a good thing to have that kind of experience working. 2016, he announced his plans to move back to Ohio from California to start our Ohio Renewal, a nonprofit dedicated to making it easier to disadvantaged children to achieve their dreams.

Starting point is 00:39:20 Good. November 2022, he was elected to US Senate from Ohio with the help of $10 million donations from Thiel. Okay, it was his first public office. Five. On Monday, he was named Trump's running mate. Six. Reflecting on his first encounter with Thiel in 2011, he wrote, Thiel articulated a feeling

Starting point is 00:39:38 that I was obsessed with achievement and not as an end to something meaningful, but to win a social competition, my worry that I had prioritized striving over character took a heightened significance. Striving for what? Seven, he was born James Donald Bowman on August 2nd of 1984 in Ohio, an industrial city 30 miles north of Cincinnati and 20 miles south of Dayton. Eight, his maternal grandparents, Jim and Bonnie Vance, known as Papa and Mama, moved to Middleton in the late 40s from Jackson, Kentucky, a town in the heart of southeast Kentucky, Cole, region. Jim was Bonnie. And by the way, this can keep going on. She was

Starting point is 00:40:15 13 years old and pregnant with Jim's child. They were unmarried at the time. When you go through all of these stories, his book turned into a movie, became a best seller. The more and more you learn about this guy, the more and more you start to start there and say, okay, maybe this guy's a unique guy that's going to be able to pull something off and get some results with what he's got going on. I'll also add this with everything with J.D. Vance. While the idea of who Trump picks as a VP is not as important today as it was in 2016, I will say this as well. After the assassination attempt, we're having dinner

Starting point is 00:40:54 and Kim said something, Tom's wife, she said, I don't think anybody right now wants the job of replacing Biden. Nobody wants the job of replacing Biden. What do you mean? Who wants the job right now? Think about it for a second. Who wants the job right now of replacing Biden? Hey, Newsome, you want the job? Oh, hell no.

Starting point is 00:41:22 Not after what just happened. Are you kidding me? You want me to go up against him? I'm out I'm not feeling well. I got long COVID. I don't want to be around other people to give him COVID You know, I'm injured and you know a little bit I'm taking a mental day or mental month off or mental four months off, right? Hey Michelle Obama I'm definitely out of this one. Hey, you know, whoever else that's, hey, maybe Whitmer takes it, but hey, all these other guys, hey, do you want the job?

Starting point is 00:41:50 No. Kamala would take it if they hadn't stepped down and given to Kamala, but I think the same way the VP nomination doesn't matter as much today, it could matter in two years, it could matter in three years, it doesn't today to win the same way I don't think anybody now after the assassination attempt wants to do anything with it. It could matter in three years. It doesn't today to win. The same way I don't think anybody now after the assassination attempt wants to do anything with it. I almost think behind closed doors as much as there's a side of me that's paranoid to know that they're not going to just give it up and allow them to win. I think behind closed doors everybody's like, no, Joe, you're

Starting point is 00:42:19 right. You're the nominee. Joe Biden, you're the nominee. You go. Tom, what do you think? Do you think behind closed doors on the DNC side, was this a massive curveball for them to flip to another candidate instead of sticking with Joe Biden? Well, they were worried about an October surprise. They got, you know, early surprise in the absolute wrong direction. There were already rumors that come out that there was a group of donors that were holding back the I think it was 90 million. Check me on that, Pat. That they said, Hey, we want to hold 90 million. Should we really be putting it behind Biden?

Starting point is 00:42:58 Or should we redirect to key Senate and key congressmen races to see if we can hold Congress and Senate to hold majorities or to do some things there. So this is groups, not one or two people. This was meaningful groups of donors and the DNC that were already saying, yeah, you know what, if we can't get Joe to back off from the nomination, then maybe let's redirect the major excess resources to Senate races and Congress races to hold the balance in the Senate and Congress because Trump's going to get elected. They were already doing that and after this weekend, and it's not just the assassination attempt, it is all the reactions. It's Elon Musk and him funding it. There it is right there. There's

Starting point is 00:43:45 the article we're talking about. So I think that the DNC right now is probably flanking to protect the vulnerable Senate seats and to see if there's any Senate seats that are on the edge that they should be throwing dollars through to win. Because as we now know, the Senate is always like dad. The Congress is like mom. And I hate to say it that way, but one parent says, yeah, we can do this. Okay, well, let's vote on it. Okay, now let's go check with the Senate.

Starting point is 00:44:14 The Senate is usually the block. The Senate is usually the block. And so I think the DNC, if I was there strategically, I'd be saying, hey, guys, you need to put all your energy into the weak Senate races. This thing is done. You know, this thing is done. You know, nothing short of bringing back Bill Clinton is going to be a candidate that you could put in here. And remember, now through the lens of history, we see Clinton was more of a centrist. I think the DNC, the playbook is let's protect the seats we can protect and let Joe go

Starting point is 00:44:46 He is now not just the candidate. He's a sacrificial lamb. They'll never say that out loud Pack actual question because you mentioned a little bit about the you know, the paranoia with everything I mean because I want to ask you a question on that sense I mean think about everything that they've done so far from you know, Hillary the Russian collusion the fake impeachments January 6 not being an insurrection All the stuff had the lawfare all these cases Jack Jack Smith. They just Unconstitutional gates nothing's working and now they just did assassination attempt You know this package I learned this from you about the enemy intrusion enemies wisely. I'm not underestimating them. They're not finished We have a hundred and twelve days left till November. I'm not being mr. Oh mister oh my god I'm just saying they already went for the gusto for this I

Starting point is 00:45:28 understand that they're sticking with Biden but Pat do you think that they're gonna try something different in the sense that Pat the movie Civil War came out we kind of felt like that's where they were going they missed that shot leave the world behind that's the terrorists China attack you know stop the no electricity no nothing that's the terrorist China attack you know stop the no electricity no nothing that's one option do you think that they are capable of doing something else to make the other side look bad meaning 111 days I apologize like for instance back if they do something to let's say Biden or

Starting point is 00:46:00 Kamala or whatever which would probably be Biden, and blame the other side. I mean, it's possible. Do you think something like that might, you know, be on the table? We're capable of everything else. It's not over. It has to be. We've got to manage it. We have to run this campaign.

Starting point is 00:46:17 Yeah, no, listen, only the paranoid survive. You have to stay that way. I think right now, to me, just because, you know, the idea of like, oh, there's not going to stay that way. I think Right now to me just because you know the idea of like oh, there's not gonna be another attempt They're just not gonna be another attempt and by the way the whole thing that came out with my orcas Rob If you got all those clips, you know, which ones I'm talking about with my orcas So what would you have done differently? Is she gonna get fired? Is there gonna be anything there? I think this was good for the audience to see because Vinnie for me We have to focus on this area. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

Starting point is 00:46:49 In light of this weekend's events, the president has directed me to work with the Secret Service to provide protection to Robert Kennedy Jr. That looks painful for him. That looks painful. That's one. So one, Trump got RFK to get Secret Service, check. He got his opponent to get Secret Service protection that the existing president wasn't willing to do. So Trump is now leading Biden. That's one. Second, go ahead, Rob.

Starting point is 00:47:23 Keep playing the clip on the next one when he talks about how the head of Secret Service handled it. Go ahead Rob. Keep playing the clip on the next one when he talks about how the head of secret service handled it. Go ahead. You said that you have 100% confidence in the secret service. Do you have 100% confidence in Director Cheadle specifically? Yes. And Mr. Secretary, since Saturday, has anyone been reassigned or removed from Donald Trump's security detail?

Starting point is 00:47:43 I don't have knowledge of that. I do not believe so. Okay, so they don't have the brass to fire people. That's the other part. When some like this happen, you gotta fire them. And then watch what he says here. Go ahead, Rob. Slightly different.

Starting point is 00:47:57 George, a direct line of sight like that to the former president should not occur. That is precisely why President Biden directed that an independent review of the incident occur. That will be done in close coordination with the FBI, which is conducting a separate criminal investigation, the importance of which cannot be overstated. Yet you trust 100% of what Kim did.

Starting point is 00:48:23 And by the way, Rob, if you can find the interview with Kim, where she takes full responsibility when she's asking, she kind of hesitates a little bit. She's the head of Secret Service. And then at the same time, she blames the local police officers for what happened. And it's wild because just yesterday, Eric Prince on from the founder of Blackwater who they had 1.6 billion dollars of government Contracts 600 million dollars from the CIA. This guy's done a lot of stuff protecting head You know heads of states for many many years to come and he's been part of many projects Some of the ones that if you learn about you're like he did that he did that I said who is in charge You know movies Vinny many times are like well

Starting point is 00:49:05 You can leave the feds are here FBI is here. We're not leaving We're NYPD you can leave the FBI is here and there's that battle between the FBI and you know I said who's above who you said the moment Secret Service shows up everybody reports to Secret Service exactly They're the leader. So guess what she don? You can't say it is the other side. And I love that this gentleman here asked the question of her and watch what our answers are. Go ahead, Rob. Who is most responsible for this happening?

Starting point is 00:49:35 What I would say is that the Secret Service is responsible for the protection of the former president. So the buck stops with you? The buck stops with me. I am the director of the Secret Service. It was unacceptable and it's something that shouldn't happen again. The president and Homeland Security secretary said today they had 100% confidence in you, but there are some members of Congress calling on you to resign. I appreciate the secretary's comments and we're going to continue to be transparent and communicate with people.

Starting point is 00:50:02 Do you plan to stay on? Absolutely. I do plan to stay on. Can you imagine? So how, yeah, listen, it's a mistake. Just a mistake. Like, you know who said a line like that? You know who use a line like that? What do you want me to do? Hillary, what difference does it make?

Starting point is 00:50:24 What difference? People are dead. American soldiers are dead. Move on. That is the perfect recipe for an assassination where, God forbid, he died. She's blaming them. Secret Service is blaming local law enforcement. The sniper may or may not have gotten stand on wait orders.

Starting point is 00:50:42 Everybody was pointing up there saying, there's the guy with the gun and you let the President of the United States keep speaking for two to three minutes. This is just one of those moments where it's a failure of security, failure of intelligence, and this guy dies and that's exactly what they want. And I could see the pain in that little rat Majorca's face. It almost looks like he was disgusted to say that now we have to give RFK protection. I'm not going to talk about anything. It's a it's ridiculous pan. It's like we always know this. We like it is what it is because I know exactly what these people are, bro. You know what it is, Vinny, you were in the Air Force, Tom, you've ran many

Starting point is 00:51:18 businesses, you've been part of many businesses, small, midsize, big, you've been part of raising money, you've been part of companies making massive big. You've been part of raising money. You've been part of companies making massive mistakes. We've been part of things that we've done where mistakes were made collectively together the last almost 20 years of being in business together. You know what typically happens? You step back and you look and you say, okay, we need better leadership over here. We need better decision making over here. That guy can't keep anybody. People have a hard time working with that guy. This need better decision making over here. That guy can't

Starting point is 00:51:45 keep anybody. People have a hard time working with that guy. This guy walks on eggshells. He's afraid of making any decisions to lead. We need somebody that's going to lead these guys and bring them together. Or, yeah, there's no way the same thing can happen again. Why did that person get sued? Why did that contract drop? How can we lose from losing this contract? What can we do for this to not happen again? And then you have to make some immediate decisions. But imagine if it's like you lose your biggest contract that's 50% of your top line revenue. You don't just say, yeah, listen, we're still still gonna keep on doing business the same way. You cannot do that. You cannot do that.

Starting point is 00:52:26 This is a part where for me, in every, like imagine you lose a Super Bowl because of the same exact dumb mistake. And you say, are you guys making any adjustments? No, same exact game plan. So let me ask you this, Mr. Carroll, Pete Carroll, yes. If you had to do it over again Would you have given the ball for Russell Wilson to pass the ball? Would you have given it to Marsha Lynch? No, we're gonna pass it again. What the hell you talking about? Hand it to the freaking guy. He'll go through it's like couple yards

Starting point is 00:52:56 Nope, we're gonna do the same thing again. That's not how life works. You make adjustments. So my only concern Vinny is To be like I'll never get knocked out again. You know how fighters like you fight like this and you forget one time to keep it up, boom, someone catches you're gone. And you're like, I'm still going to fight like this again. It's like Wilder. Remember when Wilder kept getting knocked out, knocked out, knocked out, and at one point he had a nickname, something Bomber.

Starting point is 00:53:21 He was called the Bronze Bom bomber or something like that. And he was gone. So I just want to make sure people don't come from a place of this can't happen twice because what this guy did, this guy was a legit amateur 150 yards. You know what 150 yards shooter could do? You're not even a sniper of any you're a marksman. You could probably make that shot right easy, easy, easy guys. These guys make these shots from God knows how far.

Starting point is 00:53:47 So they're lucky this guy didn't know what he was doing. If the right person knew, we would be in a very different place right now. People's lives would be very different right now. And there's many of these images that show if Trump doesn't go like this, if Trump doesn't go like this, and he stays talking like this, if Trump doesn't go like this and he stays talking like this, it's hitting this. So if Trump doesn't do this, okay, it's this. Then what do you do?

Starting point is 00:54:14 He's dead. Potentially dead. Dead. Then what's the market looking like? Then what's America looking like? Then what's the world looking like? Then what's mayhem looking like? What do you think the people that support him are going to be doing? Do you think they're just going to sit on the sidelines?

Starting point is 00:54:27 No, we'd be living in a very different America right now. So my only concern is the paranoia side. I am convinced if everything goes pound for pound, I don't think they have any other tricks of going after him. I think they're on empty empty here's what I mean by it well Stormy Daniels what are you gonna top Karen McDougall what are you gonna top depleting 453 million dollars of savings whatever the numbers what are you gonna top okay hey you know Russia collusion no one believes you today what are you gonna top hey this guy's a? Hey, this guy's a womanizer. Hey, this guy's a terrible f— what are you gonna top? The guy's kids all love him. They all support him. Marla Maples came out

Starting point is 00:55:14 the other day saying, I'm supporting Trump on the election. I mean, he's gone to his daughter's wedding, Tiffany, so there isn't anybody who doesn't have any relationships with his kids. So there isn't anybody who doesn't have any relationships with his kids. Eric Trump absolutely adores his father. Junior is emotional. Ivanka goes to the hospital and is right next to him the entire time and writes a very sentimental message out there. This is a very, very formidable candidate that you can no longer use all your tactics. You can't.

Starting point is 00:55:48 The only thing you have to use is the same card. It's the only one. They don't have any other tactics that's going to work against them. So then the other side, and by the way, watch this here. Elon Musk comes out and says, I fully endorse Trump in that moment and on top of that he says I'm committing to 45 million dollars a month to a super back of Trump between now and the election. So you know what that is 45 million dollars a month, 111 days, it's roughly 160 million dollars, 170 million dollars dollars give or take

Starting point is 00:56:26 That's what musk is saying. Would you have ever thought musk is gonna say i want to get 45 million dollars a month to super pack a All these business leaders flipping And saying now I support him silicon valley He goes there david sacks leads an event which sch should mop and all the other guys and they raised 13 million dollars Logan Paul going out there doing a podcast with him and then tweeting about it saying this guy's a freaking badass I don't know what Logan Paul said and Logan Paul has that audience I mean Dana White has all the tough guys audience

Starting point is 00:57:01 Whoever's an alpha watches the UFC If you watch UFC and the head guy is for Trump, what are you gonna do? You know, so I just think everything is coming together and the only thing you have to be careful with right now is the one thing. Watch, when's the last time you heard a story like this? When's the last time you heard that the, what do you call it? You heard the Daily Show Morning Joe, okay They cancelled Morning Joe show after Trump assassination attempt Both the Daily Show Morning Joe canceled their Monday episodes after the assassination attempt on Trump on Saturday rally The Daily Show announced it would aim it would air from its New York studio instead of Milwaukee citing

Starting point is 00:57:43 logistical issues and the evolving situation and promising to make those up in the coming weeks. The Daily Show originally set to tape at Milwaukee's Marcus Performing Arts Center during the Republican National Convention, sold out all four episodes. The Monday episode, usually hosted by Jon Stewart, was scrapped. With the show now planning to broadcast Tuesday to Thursday from New York, MSNBC's Morning Joe was pulled in favor of ongoing breaking news coverage of the shooting which left one man dead and two injured.

Starting point is 00:58:16 Joe Scarborough and Mika agreed to the benching with the network stating, giving the gravity and complexity of the unfolding story, our channels have remained in rolling, breaking news coverage since Saturday evening. Why would they bench morning Joe and Mika? Why would they do that, Vinny? They all packed, can you know why? Because even the hack left this propaganda MS

Starting point is 00:58:47 MSDNC is that what uh Don jr. Called it MSDNC. We all we're not stupid. It wasn't for this this Oh, we're just doing it because you know we just want to give late breaking news And we're gonna have a steady stream it would they put them on timeout because even MS DNC knows you can't the guy was shot in the ear and almost murdered You can't be on there because they know exactly what those two hacks are gonna be saying they're gonna be saying you know He's Hitler and his rhetoric, and it's all his fault, and I sent Rob the clip he BD It's like two minutes and some seconds long. They're speaking with another host of MSNBC, and they realized they're like hey We found out that they weren't just doing well one steady stream

Starting point is 00:59:26 They actually put other people on and if it happens again, you know, we're not gonna be here anymore So it's it's it's a timeout for even the heads even the heads at MSDNC knew they're like, you know what? We can't you know, let's not put these two out there because we don't even we don't god knows what they're gonna say God knows I guarantee cuz I guarantee you I guarantee you it would have been one heartfelt moment of you know what thank God this guy wasn't Assassinated because the world would have been in turmoil not at all, so I'm happy that they did that Tom why do you think I? Think it was a business decision plain and simple

Starting point is 01:00:04 Pat and I have been through this and a lot of people out there are business owners think of it this way. You have a very, very big meeting coming up with an important customer and somebody says the two salesmen are going are Johnny and Sarah. And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, do not send Johnny and Sarah into that room. I don't trust them in that room. We're going to send Javier and Consuela. They're going to go into that room. We're gonna send Javier and Consuela.

Starting point is 01:00:26 They're gonna go into that room. They're going to that meeting. This was a business decision. MSNBC could not trust Joe Scarborough with the heat of the moment, with the elevated tone that was coming out of everything. They could not trust Joe Scarborough to go into that meeting with the audience. And this higher up said, we can't do this we can't do this they're number six remember they're number six ABC NBC CBS Fox CNN MSNBC they're number six they have to protect what's left of that business this was a business decision to give them a timeout, to not have them say anything weird.

Starting point is 01:01:09 Let's go the other way and just play a simple little analysis. What if morning Joe had gone on to Joe Scarborough, well, we already know, you know, so somebody took a shot at Hitler. All you need him to do is say something like that, because that's gonna be a highlight video for all time

Starting point is 01:01:25 from SMBC. They can't trust Joe and they can't trust the intensity of the guests they're going to have on. Somebody's going to say, well, yeah, Trump got shot with some smirk or something and it all goes sideways. It was a business decision. They couldn't risk it. Rob, do you have the clip of what Joe said about this? If you have the clip Rob, just post this because you don't trust- Briefly talk to our- Oh yeah, this is-

Starting point is 01:01:55 Go ahead Rob. I wanted to briefly talk to our friends and viewers that watch us every day. And talk about what happened yesterday. We were told in no uncertain terms on a Sunday evening that there was gonna be one newsfeed across all NBC News channels yesterday. The Today Show would be Lester Holt,

Starting point is 01:02:20 other people that you worked with on Sunday. And that that was gonna be one news feed across all NBC News channels that we were going to stay as a network and breaking news mode throughout all day yesterday that did not happen. We don't know why that was that didn't happen. Or team was not given a good answer as to why that didn't happen, but it didn't happen. We're also told it was going to happen throughout the day.

Starting point is 01:02:48 And I guess after there was such a strong blow back about yesterday morning, I guess they changed their plans and so those plans changed as well so it didn't. And you know we've talked about it. Off the air've talked about it Off the air. We'll talk about it on the air because we talked about everything on the air We were very surprised. We were very disappointed And if we had known that there wasn't going to be the one newsfeed from NBC News across all NBC News channels Willie we obviously would have been in yesterday morning Yeah, I was here up early on Sunday morning with NBC's coverage Savannah and I led the coverage on Sunday in the

Starting point is 01:03:28 immediate aftermath talking eyewitnesses talking officials about what happened. I'll tell you he's so bad he's bad so he's mad because they were told listen we're just gonna have one feed nobody's gonna have their individual souls airing but now PBT watch to the end now this is where she gets uncomfortable and then when he says like we'll walk away look at her face. Obviously suited up and ready to go for yesterday morning on a big morning and we're told that something else is going to

Starting point is 01:03:57 be broadcast so we are here today going through a lot catching up a little bit but when you're here for our audience and we we know you trust us and we have ultimate respect for you guys so we're here today, I wish we'd been here yesterday this. Yeah, we we always we would have been here yesterday it we were still are are we like that would like to figure out exactly why there wasn't that one.

Starting point is 01:04:20 Well, I think the reason why is this show began and continues 17 years later on being the place for you can go to have the hard conversations in a civil way. And so it seemed like now more than ever is a day, a time that we would like to be on. And I think our viewers agree with that. So we continue. We are five minutes past the top of the hour. Let me just say, next time we're told there's going to be a newsfeed replacing us, we will be in our chairs. We'll be sitting here. Yeah. And the newsfeed will be us or they can get somebody else to host the show. They can get someone. So he just put an ultimatum. Well, let me tell you, this is a place where I actually support what MSNBC did. And let me explain to you why. Can you go to Power vs. Force,

Starting point is 01:05:14 Rob? Just pull up Power vs. Force and go to one of the images. This is the part all of us have to work on. Everybody. That includes us and that includes them because what the audience wants to see Rob if you can just go to Google type in Power vs. Force and pull up there you go look at this year. Oh perfect thank you so much Rob perfect so look at all the way at the bottom level of consciousness all the way at the bottom we have people that always ashamed right their emotionless humiliation then Then you have guilt. They're always blaming somebody.

Starting point is 01:05:47 Very annoying to be around people that always blaming somebody else for a mistake, right? Apathy, despair, they're hopeless. Grief, regret, they're always regretting the decision they made. So they're always in this tragic mode. Fear, anxiety, withdrawal. They're afraid to confront and have serious conversations desire drug alcohol You know women whatever it is craving enslavement your slave to what you desire

Starting point is 01:06:15 Anger is where morning Joe is at hate aggression Pride is where morning Joe is really at, score and inflation. Then you have courage, which is the next phase. And then courage to say you're wrong, courage to say you messed up. It's not easy to be there. Then it's neutrality to hear both sides. You're willing and you're optimistic, you're hopeful. Then it's acceptance, forgiveness. Then it's reason, understanding.

Starting point is 01:06:47 So for example, when I'm thinking why would Trump, you know, conversation, why would Trump pick a Jade events after he said stuff like that? Trump said, yeah, I guess he likes me now, doesn't he? Very simple. You know, he forgave him. Yeah, I guess he likes me now, doesn't he? Great. That's a reason, understanding.

Starting point is 01:07:03 So if MSNBC doesn't believe, Robbie, you you can take that down and I'm always going to reference back to this book. If MSNBC doesn't trust Morning Joe to be there, why do you think it is? Actually just looking at the chart, why do you think it is? I would say because they don't think Morning Joe, Joe's anger and pride will allow him to communicate the events that took place in a reasonable way and maybe, just maybe before them going live, do you think there's a possibility Tom? Where the executive, whoever the top is, executive producer, the VP called and said, hey Joe, Mika. How do you feel about this and?

Starting point is 01:07:47 They say what they say and then he says So what do you what do you think about what happened? Well this data data then he did this it's his fault Joe you can't say no, it's his fault. He started this He deserves what he gets so then the producers like you can't tell no the audience needs to know that's the truth No, that's your anger and your pride. Do you think a call like that happened where the decision was made? We're cutting the show. We're not doing it today. You need a day off. You think something like that happened Tom? 100% the head of news is responsible for that show and we now know from everything that we can read about multiple things that the producer over somebody like Joe Scarborough does his best to control the talent but cannot control

Starting point is 01:08:32 the talent. The talent goes with it. We saw it with, we've seen it with Hannity, we've seen it, well I'm saying we've seen it on every channel, regardless of where else. We've seen it with Don Lemon that the producer couldn't get Don Lemon to rationalize his position and to come clean. And so the head of the news division says, sorry, you're done. The producer's job is to produce the show and to do their best to kind of moderate the talent and to keep the show in its lane. The head of news is the one with these super, you know, commentators now, these superstars, these media icons, and they are media icons.

Starting point is 01:09:05 The head of news is the one that comes down to Joe and say, Joe, I've talked to your producer, we've given them the guardrails, but I gotta ask you personally, that's how the conversations happen. We've seen this reported in Wall Street, that does a good job covering media, that they, you know, head of news is responsible

Starting point is 01:09:24 to call there and take the temperature and then make the call. Yeah, I think a call like that happened. I think a conversation like that happened. And I think they made the decision. And I think these guys are upset. And by the way, not going to lie to you, I think for the left, I think for the left, I think Joe is good for the left.

Starting point is 01:09:44 I think they're actually good for the left, I think Joe is good for the left. I think they're actually good for the left. I just think his rage, his anger and his pride is getting in the way. And you know, a lot of times, nobody makes it to that level without thinking highly of yourself. Okay? You think highly of yourself. Do you know who I am? I'm Joe Scarborough. Do you understand who I am? I'm Mika.

Starting point is 01:10:08 You know, do you understand who I am? And look, everybody kind of goes through this. Whether you're a manager at a McDonald's, that's the number one McDonald's in your region, or you're a manager of an AMC theater, or you're a Morning Joe host, you think very highly of yourself. And then sometimes that can cover up your flaws, your blind spots. Everybody is capable of falling for this trap. And then you get caught. And then people realize you're not reasonable anymore. And then people realize you're not capable of having a conversation and seeing the fact

Starting point is 01:10:43 that maybe your side was wrong. And that's not an easy thing to do for men and women who are performers who have a high level of pride in what they've done. It's just not an easy thing to do. Vinny, any thoughts on this before we go to the next story? No, I'm just, I mean, if they wanted to quit, I just wish like that's another, that'd be a golden moment if they were just like, hey, you know what, because of these actions, we have to walk away away that would have been a celebration and a win for us And then I hope like a show like the view would follow suit, but I can't be that lucky So well listen you can pray about it. I am I am after but that's a different story I think the world would be a better place. I think what I pray about is for you to be on the view

Starting point is 01:11:22 That's what I pray. I will and PBT. I don't know the Xeal. I just post I just said this in the chat I apologize because guys I was on my phone, but apparently RFK jr. Son posted a video and it's since been deleted of a call between RFK jr. And Trump after the shooting and in the video Trump repeats his all claims about you know, you know the vaccines and so like it's a weird Call and it was posted and then deleted. And I posted it in the chat. I don't know if this is something that you'd wanna put. That's why I apologize, I was on my phone.

Starting point is 01:11:51 What do you mean? It was just, is there a clip? There's a clip, I just sent it to Rob Pat. He goes, he does not know he's being recorded, but Trump is being a gentleman, he's being cool, and he's being collective, but I don't even think RFK knew that his son was recording him. So I can understand why he thought it was a good idea for him to show that Trump is

Starting point is 01:12:11 roughly on the same page as RFK when it comes on to the issue of vaccines. But it's a gross lapse of judgment that said, and what I can get over is assuming Trump was not on the same decision, which I'm not, I'm sure he was, is what is what an absolute gentleman Trump is, even when he thinks he is not being recorded. The man was just shot a millimeter from brutal and gruesome death and even when describing the incident, he is kind and generous to Joe Biden and wife believe had a hand in it. He has a sense of humor. This is this is this gentleman saying so if you can go up, yeah, there's a video. There's a video. PbD. I think at the top, Rob. So

Starting point is 01:12:43 this is from who? No, no, I want to show who it's from, Rob. This is from Viva. Okay, got it. Viva Frikes. So keep going lower. So I can read the whole thing. Then he's got some millionaire minutes. He's got a sense of humor about the entire experience. He doesn't scream, swear, blame anybody. Though he should. A true and total gentleman.

Starting point is 01:13:00 I can see why the left hates him so much. Go ahead and play the clip Rob. Yeah, something was a big gun. It was a pretty tough gun, right? Yeah, really man, something's wrong with that also. Yeah, and you know, I just was on to issue five. And I said, I wanna do small doses, small doses. When you feed a baby, Bobby, And I said, I want to do small doses, small doses. When you feed a baby, Bobby, a vaccination that is like 38 different vaccines, and it

Starting point is 01:13:34 looks like it's meant for a horse, not a 10 pound or 20 pound baby, it looks like you should be giving a horse this. And do you ever see the size of it, right? You know, it's just massive. And then you see the baby all of a sudden starting to change radically. I've seen it so many times. And then you hear that it doesn't have an impact, right? But you and I talked about that a long time ago.

Starting point is 01:13:59 Anyway, I would love you to do something. And I think it would be so good for you, and so big for you. And we're gonna win. We're gonna win. We're way ahead of the guy. And you know, he's interesting. It was very nice actually.

Starting point is 01:14:13 He called me. And he said, how did you choose to move to the right? So I guess that's, people said, you know, I was looking straight up. He said, I was just showing a joint. I didn't have to tell them the truck was on all the people pouring into our country. But I just turned my head to show the joint and something wrapped me.

Starting point is 01:14:37 It felt like a giant, like the world's largest mosquito. And it was, it was a bullet dome. You know, what do they call that? An AR-15 or something? It was a big gun. It was pretty tough guns, right? Pat, I don't know how old the son is, but I mean, wow, you can't even trust, like this is the second time Trump, like even at the golf course golf course Trump is speaking off the cuff doesn't know he's being recorded and look what he just said he goes yeah Joe Biden nice guy called me and was asking questions and showing his humility I don't really know how much about the vaccine because you know the kids started recording a little bit later but you know that's besides the point the fact that he's been saying that Joe Biden was cool had a conversation conversation, asked him why he turned, that just shows you who he is. That shows his character. I can't hear Pat. I was saying Tom, Tom, we can't hear you. What I was saying is, what do you think about him speaking and having it on recording while his son was recording

Starting point is 01:15:45 him? If RFK knew someone was recording that, he should have said something to Trump. Hey, I'm sitting here with my son and family. They're listening to this. I hope that's okay. I'm really glad that you're all right and I'd love to hear what's on your mind. You got to tell somebody at this level Trump and later I see that, you know, and I see RFK face to face and say, Bobby, what were you doing allowing your kid to record that and do that? I was calling you genuinely. I'm calling you genuinely.

Starting point is 01:16:21 Your family has faced the tragedy I almost faced. I'm calling you very, very genuinely to talk about things and, you know, having your kid record it and put it out. Bobby, come on. That would turn my trust down a little bit. I wouldn't like that at all. I'm a little concerned about that. And now on the other hand, does Bobby know the kid is recording or is he the kid sitting there with the phone from across the room?

Starting point is 01:16:44 Because it doesn't move around. Bobby's on the phone like this and the image, the video doesn't move around. So was his kid just kind of recording it from across the room? In which case, I think Bobby's got a problem with Bobby Jr. and Bobby Jr., Bobby the third, Robert the third, man, he came out against the service and so he's been very revved up through this whole situation. You saw his quote on social media. Tom, just two questions.

Starting point is 01:17:14 How old is his son number one and number two they said it was since deleted. So how did it make it? Which son was the tweet Vinny? Can you see it? Which son was the tweet Vinny? Can you see it? Which son was the tweet? If you tell me the name of the son, he's got a 39 year old son, he's got a 29 year old son, he's got a 26 year old son and a 22 year old son. So yeah CPVD, it doesn't say who it just said his son but then here's the thing, he published it and then deleted it. Why would you do that? Probably because somebody in the family in the camps saw it and said, look, what are you doing?

Starting point is 01:17:48 Take it down. It's distasteful. But no, I mean, look, there's a part of it where it's kind of like, I can't believe, you know, you see how even Trump agrees with me because, you know, on one end when you're RFK and you fought this fight, and you are right and Trump is agreeing with you, you want the world to see that. You want the world to be like, dude, I'm telling you guys, I'm right. His whole job is a lawyer to make an argument and you want the argument to be right. So I understand why, what he's doing and the motivation of what he's doing. And I think what I learned a long time ago, at 25 years old when I was an insurance agent,

Starting point is 01:18:31 I saw one of the guys that was making a lot of money, he lost all his licenses. And one of the compliance officers came in and said the best thing to us. He says, anytime you're speaking from stage, assume you're being recorded. Anytime you're speaking from stage, assume you're being recorded. Trump's a professional. Trump knows anytime he's on a phone call with somebody, he has to assume he's being recorded. It doesn't matter who it is, minus a handful of people in his life, everybody is going to want to find a way to brag to their grandkids, look who called me. Honey, look who's calling. Oh my God, he called you? Yes, my dad got a phone call from like, you know, there's a little bit of that. But I hope this doesn't change Trump's

Starting point is 01:19:19 mind of bringing RFK to investigate the entire COVID. You know, Fauci, all those guys. I'd love to see Rand Paul and RFK team up, go up after CDC, NIH, World Health Organization. I would love if President Trump, and the one thing about President Trump right now, this phase of his life, you know, you go through paranoia and then you eventually get to a point where you reach a level of, man, you know, God has forgiven me for so many sins I've committed, guess what, man, I've got to be more forgiven. Because look what God's done with Trump.

Starting point is 01:20:01 He processes that by himself and he's going to sit there and be like, look, if I've been forgiven for some of the stuff that I've done, and God's forgiven me and others have forgiven me, and some of them haven't, maybe I've got to start forgiving some of the stuff as well. I think he's going through that phase right now because it's 78, 79. You saw the look on his face. It was a different look on his face. The look on his face wasn't because you'd be in jail. The look on his face wasn't, you know,

Starting point is 01:20:30 all this other stuff. The look on his face was, hey man, enjoy the ride, protect the country, be grateful, God's on your side, you got lucky and you were protected whether it's you turning like this pure luck, you know, or was, you know, God where the other guy didn't know what he was doing fully to be able to hit you. He has to come from a place. A book was written many years ago by, who's this guy's name? It's called David and Goliath, not David versus Goliath. It was David and Goliath who wrote it. He always writes good books. and Goliath, who wrote it, he always writes good books. Underdogs, Misfits, and the Art of Battling Giants. It was written by Malcolm Gladwell,

Starting point is 01:21:10 phenomenal book, David and Goliath. In this book, one of the things, that's the one right there. In this book, one of the things he talks about is, I think it's this book, he talks about what happens when people get a close call with death and how they react to it. When you get a close call with death, you lead from a standpoint of, I'm supposed to be here for a bigger cause.

Starting point is 01:21:40 I don't know what it is, but I'm here for a bigger cause. And you tend to take that responsibility, not with arrogance, but a certain level of humility because you almost lost everything. So you got so close to it where you're like, I almost died. Then what? Who cares about net worth? Who cares about Twitter following? Who cares about Twitter following, who cares about valuation. And then you come

Starting point is 01:22:07 here and you're like, maybe you're trying to say something to me and you give me a second chance at life. You want to give me a second chance at life? I would have never seen my grandkids anymore or my kids or had a good meal. I'm yours. What do you want me to do? The level of fear for a creator goes up, but the level of loyalty for a creator goes up that you were protected by someone, by a spirit. And they tend to come from a different place on the way they lead, on the way they manage stuff with their own families, and the way they do business. This is no longer the same Trump. People have to realize this is not the same Trump. It's not the same Trump.

Starting point is 01:22:50 It's a very different Trump when something like this happens to you in your life. And that's the part where I, one of the things I'd love to see happen, I would love to see him choose RFK to lead the COVID investigation. I think if an announcement like, think about in September or October, okay? I don't know if RFK is speaking here or not. But think about if an announcement is made, RFK drops out. He gets behind Trump. They do an event.

Starting point is 01:23:18 And RFK is out there and Trump says, this is a very good man. I understand what he went through. And what they tried to,. I understand what he went through and what they tried to, and what they did to his father and what they did to his uncle. They tried to do to me as well. And I went through it and I'm grateful I'm here now. And I'm witnessing what's going on and we both love America.

Starting point is 01:23:38 We may have differences, but if there's one thing I know, he fully believes in what happened with the vaccine and we're on the same page. I'm gonna have commissioned him to go and investigate XYZ and Rand Paul comes in with that. I Think that's 45 out of 50 states. I think that's like Jimmy Carter Reagan landslide type of a victory where a lot of people are gonna be sitting there saying I resign I resign I resign I resign I retire I, I resign, I resign, I retire, I resign, I resign, I resign. Because they don't want to go through it.

Starting point is 01:24:09 They're like, I'm out of here. And they move to Singapore, or they move to Belize, or they move to a small little city outside of Palmdale called Nenak, where donkeys live in, and zebras that no one's ever heard of before. They do weird things like that, Vinny. But I think- Or they go to Wuhan, Pat. I mean, I would go back to the origins. If I was Fauci, I'd be like, listen, China, I'm coming home. Come take care of me.

Starting point is 01:24:36 I'll work at the lab. I don't know if it's still open or not, but I'll come back to Wuhan. Just please take care of me because I did all your dirty work. That's what I would do. Maybe they go to Wuhan. Who knows? And that's the angle they take with that what I would do. Maybe they go to Wuhan, who knows. And that's the angle they take with that. Anyways, Rob, let's go to the next story.

Starting point is 01:24:49 Rob, CNN. What's the story with CNN? There's a story that came about with CNN's numbers, which everybody's like, what are you talking about with some of these numbers here? Let me read this to you. So CNN primetime ratings catered 92% the day after presidential debate, Nielsen says. CNN primetime rating drops 92% the day after

Starting point is 01:25:13 the June 27 presidential debate between Trump and Biden. According to Nielsen data in the key 25 to 54 demographic, the rating fell 96%, moderated by Dana Bash and Tapper the debate drew nearly 50 million viewers with CNN generating 8.7 million However viewers quickly turned out the following day leaving CNN behind Fox News and MSNBC for the week of June 28 to July 7th, CNN's primetime ratings fell 93% to 500,000 total viewers with a 97% drop in key demo CEO Mark Thompson announced a plan to cut 100 jobs as part of a turnaround strategy. You're letting go of people at the peak season with Trump in elections.

Starting point is 01:26:00 What are you going to do after this thing's over where nobody tunes into political news? Tom, what are your thoughts on this data here? Very interesting data. I dove into it and I have two quick case studies that go behind it which are kind of interesting from history. The first thing that happened was CNN basically got those monster ratings because they paid for them. They were the ones that got the debate.

Starting point is 01:26:21 They did it exclusive. They brought their feed, had to be everywhere. It had to say CNN in the corner of all the video feeds that were carried on all the other networks. So they had a shortage. They were the only one. It's like when Direct TV had the NFL Sunday ticket. That was the only place to get all the NFL games. So naturally subscribers went to Direct TV for NFL. Well, what happened was afterwards there was no connection and hold of the audience. Let me describe that. Two case studies through history, you go back, go back, Wolf Litzer was relatively unknown to the American audience until the Gulf War. After the Gulf War, the Wolf Litzer report carried audience. They got to know him. They kind of liked him and he carried audience after the big pop. Then Greta Von Susteren, she was a legal analyst and during

Starting point is 01:27:11 the OJ trial, she became well known, not really known before that. After that, she carried a ton of audience. CNN had a shortage and they had the best thing. They were the only one with oxygen when everybody wanted to breathe on that debate. And guess what happened afterwards? Who? There was no hold by CNN, which says they had no that nobody wanted to hear from the talent. Nobody wanted to hear from the network. And guess what? As soon as they didn't have the debate, and it's over, boom, the audience craters, which follows in line already what was happening to their audience before. Dana Bash is, does not get high Q rating among audience. And she's not known really for anything except kind of being

Starting point is 01:27:57 Dana Bash. She's not an expert on this or that. So when you dive into this, there was nothing to hold the audience. So 96% of them went back to what they were doing before because there wasn't this artificial shortage that CNN created by writing a giant check to get the debate. Yeah, PPD, who's there? Like, if you guys think about it, Cuomo gone, Lemon gone, Stelter gone. I mean, who if you think CNN who van briefly talked to our friends and viewers that watch us every day

Starting point is 01:28:30 No, that's not it. Well, anyway, but what a like DVD if you think about it, they got They got rid of all their big dogs. Who do they have right now? Look at a bunch of nobodies These are actual I don't know, there's no star that they have. Pat, let me ask you a question though. You think Donald Trump wins, God willing, what happens with CNN's numbers? I mean, because you know, Russia collusion, impeachments, you know, storming, all that stuff brings them ratings. Do you think that's going to save them or, or they're doomed? Well, let me show you this, which is kind of weird. We're smaller

Starting point is 01:29:05 than podcast. You know, we're not a network. We're not anything like that. Rob shows me this number. We're a startup. I don't know if you guys can see this or not. This is the last two months of viewership on YouTube. Okay. May and June YouTube combined CNBC at the bottom, 36 million. Then it's Bloomberg, Sky News, NBC Sky News NBC BBC CBS Al Jazeera ABC News CNN had 257.6 million views value Tim and MPV podcasts at 258 million and it's Fox News and MSNBC the reason why this is important is because not a lot of people watch TV They get their news on YouTube clips or Twitter. They go and they watch a video or podcast on YouTube or Spotify or whatever's out there. CNN is not even getting as many views as just value attainment and PPD podcasts combined.

Starting point is 01:29:57 Really? A CNN community as big as it is with how many subscribers are CNN have on YouTube Rob? Can you pull up to see how many subscribers CNN has on YouTube? Where are they at? If we look at CNN's 16.6 million views, 16.6 million subs, and this is CNN that's getting numbers like that. There's a famous quote that says, experts build the Titanic, amateurs build the Ark. It looks like experts. And the world is saying, yeah, we just want to kind of hear what regular day to day people want to say. And Rob, I want to go to this next story with CNN, which is they're starting to realize stuff doesn't work. They quietly, this is a New York Post story, CNN quietly disbands race and equality team as part of layoffs.

Starting point is 01:30:49 Why would CNN do that? Right? CNN disband its race and equality team, which was formed in response to George Floyd's death in 2020 as part of a major restructuring that included firing 100 staffers. One journalist was fired, two were reassigned, a CNN spokesperson admitted for all intent and purposes, the team is not a team anymore. CNN's chairman Mark Thompson announced the layoffs impacting around 3% of the workforce. High profile journalists like media critic Brian Lowry, senior tech writer Samantha Murphy

Starting point is 01:31:21 were amongst those. Thompson also revealed a plan for CNN's first subscription product on CNN.com. The disbanding of race and equality team reflects CNN's strategy to integrate their perspectives across different programming areas. So yeah, Vinny, you're asking a good question on what's going to happen afterwards. No one knows what's going to happen afterwards. The guy that bought it is a decent guy who knows what he's doing. He's not a lightweight. He's a heavyweight. But for them to kind of try to bring this thing back up, you have to shift away from the philosophy that you've had this entire time, which is not a philosophy that's got a lot of people to trust them and believe in them. So we'll see. We'll see what's going to happen there with these guys and what position they take. Let me tell you what interesting story I see here that I think

Starting point is 01:32:10 it's worth talking about. Rob, do you know where that story is with the ammunition thing? There it is. Check this out. Ammunition vending machines, folks. Ammunition vending machines. Rob, if you have that, pull this up so the audience can see it. Ammunition vending machines pop up in three states, may expand to others in the future. Okay. American Rounds has installed ammunition vending machines in grocery stores across Oklahoma, Texas, and Alabama with plans to expand to more states. CEO Grant Magers stated, we're the safest, most secure method of ammunition sales on the market currently and mentioned that over 200 stores in nine states have requested these machines, the vending machines, require customers to insert their ID and undergo facial recognition

Starting point is 01:32:58 to verify their identity. I like that a lot. The Process he thinks is more secure than traditional stores and online sales. He highlighted that traditional methods allow miners to easily bypass age verification stating any miner can go to a website and click K on 21 and they've got their parents' credit card and they just order a thousand rounds to their house. However, Tuscaloosa City official Kip Tyner expressed concerns about the potential for bullets to end up in the hands of people who are not that responsible. Tom, Vinnie, thoughts on this idea with vending machines? So the vending machine is actually more secure and more confirmation than just a web address.

Starting point is 01:33:41 A web address, you know, I could knock you on the head, take your driver's license and your credit card and until somebody calls it in. I could use that and I could buy ammunition and I could get it shipped. However, I go up to a vending machine, I'm using a credit card, they're going to take a picture of whoever is there taking the ammunition out. There's going to be controls. There's going to be things there. You have to take out your driver's license, and then it'll probably cross-check. Are you on a list where you're ineligible to own a weapon right now?

Starting point is 01:34:13 This isn't just going to be walking up to buy a Coke. This is going to be some things that are involved with it. So when you hear the word vending machine, let's wait and see what the actual device looks like. And bet you're gonna have a lot of people out there nervous about Privacy because there's got to be checks and balances. No, but the Operator I'm not gonna run a business that operates a vending machine that you can pull out You know ammunition and go commit a mass shooting and then people say oh Where did he get the ammunition?

Starting point is 01:34:46 You didn't check. You let it happen. I'm out of business. Trial lawyers, you know, injury lawyers, 10 minutes, I'm out of business. So I want to see the vending machine. Don't think of this as a coke machine. There's going to be controls in there. Right. What do you think? Well, honestly, when you first started saying it,

Starting point is 01:35:04 and I heard vending like Thomas pointing out, automatically, I'm like, you know, think? Well, honestly, when you first started saying it and I heard Vending, like Thomas pointing out, automatically I'm like, you know, my comedy brain's going, okay, Coca-Cola, 5.56, blah blah blah. But then the thing that triggered me, no pun intended, is when you said, ID and facial recognition, okay? What a brilliant idea to identify who the person is. It's almost as if that thing that you said on a live podcast With Candace and Chris Cuomo. Why don't we do that same thing for voting? Why don't we do the same thing put your ID show your face?

Starting point is 01:35:36 Good for you good move on because I saw some videos PB. I don't know where it was on X where Illegals are going to get driver's licenses and they're giving them registrations to vote. You can register to vote there and they were catching these illegals registering to vote. So it's like I think it's a great idea especially nowadays especially with you know ammunition. I'm telling you right now I guarantee you if Rob could I mean I'll check right now ammunition sales are probably going up especially after the assassination Slash coup however, you want to call it attempt on donald trump?

Starting point is 01:36:11 So, um, yeah, I think it's good business, especially with uh facial recognition and id you guys said everything Whoops, sorry my greater concern is security for the vending machine itself We've seen guys with big pickup trucks and giant change yank little ATM right out of a 7-Eleven. So kind of interesting. Vinny, were you speaking or? No, it was Tom. Oh, okay. It's a little auto. Okay, so let's go to this next one. Hopefully your audio will work here. And maybe we can finish this next one. I heard something. Hopefully your audio will work here.

Starting point is 01:36:47 And maybe we can finish off with this. I think this is important because this next election cycle, Trump's going to go after China. They're going to have to figure this thing out. China's economic growth slows in second quarter. It slowed down to 4.7% in Q2, missing expected 5.1, and marking a decline from 5.3 in Q1. The slowdown is attributed to weak consumer demand and a prolonged property slump. Despite efforts from policymakers to bolster confidence, often domestic demand conditions have more than offset the boost from export recovery.

Starting point is 01:37:22 Said economist from North Asia, June 10, industry production exceeded expectations growing 5.3% in June, while retail sales grew only 2% significantly below expectation. Fixed asset investments rose 3.9% in2% Weak demand new home prices fell by 4.5 percent the steepest Decline in nine years in response to the economic data several banks revised Their full year growth forecast for China Goldman Sachs reduced its estimate from 5% to 4.9 JP mortgage from 5.2 to 4.7 and Oxford economics lowered it target to 4.8 top thoughts on China China's domestic economy is slowing down and all economies have cycles from right now China's domestic economy is in the middle of a slowdown cycle what's going to slow down their export

Starting point is 01:38:21 economy is the election of Donald Trump because he's going to put more manufacturing jobs and more jobs back in the United States. The same thing he did when he first came into office last time. Remember, he went straight to Ohio, straight to Indiana, convinced companies to put jobs back in the United States. Those things, a slowing in China is a theme that's going to be continued for a couple years. Now, people say, well, what does that matter for China for me? Well, one of the ways it can matter for Americans is that energy prices are going to come down because China's demand for energy during a slowdown is going to drop, meaning more oil and things are on the market to be bought by other people. We're going to go like hell here in the United States and be the world energy power we should

Starting point is 01:39:02 be and prices are going to come down, which will be great news for Americans in terms of plastics, gasoline, air travel and heating oil. Those are the big things that hit the American pocketbook. So this is all connected in this global economy and China is having a cycle coming down and they're going to get additional pressure after the election of Donald Trump and the economic policies of the United States. Tom, did you see the $10 trillion story of China's debt that they put? Did you see that story that just came out or no? Oh, I mean they hid facts about how much national debt they really had.

Starting point is 01:39:44 Oh, what a surprise. And now they got to figure out how to how to broker it and how to pay interest on it. Just like any other countries such as United States with our large national debt. That's an additional pressure that's going to be on them because it's not a one way street anymore. Or they were actually buying our T bills and buying our debt. They're not number one. Japan is number one buying our debt. So there's a lot of things happen in China. Here it is. This is exactly true. The Chinese economy is about to have some major correction points that are going to be in it. And it's not going to be just an open valve for trade with the USA. We're going to bring jobs back to the United States.

Starting point is 01:40:28 And it's going to pinch their economy even more. And now we're seeing, what was the iceberg? More of the iceberg is under the water than above the water. Guess what's been below the water? Lies about the Chinese economic truth. What a surprise. They won't let their currency actually float with other international currencies. No surprise that they're hiding the fact that they also

Starting point is 01:40:51 have a big debt problem. Well, welcome to reality. Well, speaking of hiding things, Tom, I don't know if you remember this, but there was this thing that happened 2019,2020 it was called COVID the last time a president was holding China accountable making them pay their fair share doing everything with trade randomly on election year this random virus came out of a lab that we own and shut down the world and you know Biden's in with China so was Gavin Newsom he treats Xi Jinping like he's a god when he comes to San Francisco I'm just I'm just concerned that if Trump comes back in we have to be wary about this this this China

Starting point is 01:41:33 Who also has been buying land all over the United States, but right next to our military installations they're buying up all this land and Yeah, I I'm one of these one of these paranoid people that Pat was talking about when the movie Leave the world behind shows that China is one of the people that does this attack that cripples the world I wouldn't put it past these people pissing them off to me is is what caused this last Pandemic so that's another They're not they're not going away and China's got a lot of levers to pull and a lot of things to do They're not going away and China's got a lot of levers to pull and a lot of things to do They're not going away

Starting point is 01:42:05 But to have them having an economic cycle when we get an election and new economic policy only helps us But the long game is what they play and they're not going away. Yeah, by the way, here's a RFK responding to the video that was leaked and He apologized When President Trump called me I was taping with an in-house videographer. I should have ordered a videographer to stop recording immediately. I was mortified that that was posted. I apologize to the president. Okay, so there you have it. By the way, it's everywhere now on Twitter, retweeted by everyone.

Starting point is 01:42:47 It's done. It's gonna get a few hundred million views of what happens there. If it's intentional or not intentional by both camps, it's public already and everybody's seen that. So anyways, gang, a couple things. In regards to the showing Rob with the Ronald Reagan film with Dennis Quaid that's coming out, I think it comes out August 30th, if I'm not mistaken. And this is like the summer movie a lot of people are looking forward to seeing with

Starting point is 01:43:16 Dennis Quaid starring in this Ronald Reagan movie. Rob, if you have it, what we're doing is we are doing a premiere at our studio, at our comedy club, in Valuetainment at 59.90 Live. The VIP tickets sold out, as they always do, in no time. The mid-level ticket tiers are available to pick up and some generals are left. If you're somebody that's a big Reagan person and you want to see, we're going to watch the movie, Rob, if you want to show the flyer to the website, you can go to 59.90 Live. If you're somebody that's a Reagan fan

Starting point is 01:43:48 and you wanna watch the movie with us, we'll be the first to watch the movie. Then there will be a 30 minute break. Then we'll do a live podcast together with Dennis Quaid. And obviously we're gonna talk to him a lot about Hollywood, different things, as well as his thoughts on Trump politics. There's so many different things that's going on. So we're excited about that, but there's still a few tickets left on the general side.

Starting point is 01:44:09 You can go to that QR code, get the ticket, you, your spouse, your friends, my son's going to be there to watch the movie with me as well. And this will be August 2nd from 5pm to 10pm. And when the movie ends and the podcast ends afterwards, we'll obviously be at the cigar lounge having a couple cigars and having conversations. So if you want to join us, QR code, buy your ticket before this sells out. Take care everybody. We may, we may do another one on Thursday.

Starting point is 01:44:36 Don't know yet. We may do another one on Thursday. Take care everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

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