Planetary Radio: Space Exploration, Astronomy and Science - Celebrating Kepler

Episode Date: October 31, 2018

The Kepler mission has ended.  Listen to highlights of the October 30th media briefing that included the father of the fantastically successful planet finder, William Borucki.  Then catch the though...ts of Planetary Society editors and commentators Jason Davis and Emily Lakdawalla.  Director of Space Policy Casey Dreier explores what’s at stake in the US November 6th midterm election.  And we’ll give away another copy of Bruce Betts’ Astronomy for Kids in a spooky edition of What’s Up.  Learn more at: http://www.planetary.org/multimedia/planetary-radio/show/2018/1031-2018-kepler-celebration.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Long live Kepler, this week on Planetary Radio. In the words of Paul Hertz, NASA Astrophysics Division Director, the Kepler exoplanet hunter has run out of fuel. This is not unexpected, and this marks the end of spacecraft operations for Kepler and the end of the collection of science data. Welcome. I'm Matt Kaplan of the Planetary Society with more of the human adventure across our solar system and beyond. The announcement was made in a media briefing on the morning of Tuesday, October 30th. Stay with us for highlights of that emotional and triumphant briefing,
Starting point is 00:00:43 along with thoughts about Kepler and more from our own Emily Lakdawalla and Jason Davis. Someone is going to win Bruce Bett's new book today, and we'll offer you another chance to pick up a free copy when we get to the What's Up Space Trivia Contest. We open with the Planetary Society's Director of Space Policy, Casey Dreyer. Casey, welcome back to the weekly version of the show. A very important announcement that we need to make this time is that we are
Starting point is 00:01:10 delaying from its usual first Friday of the month, November's Space Policy Edition, because we want to get past a certain fairly significant event so that we can talk about it. Yeah, Matt, have you heard that there's a midterm elections happening in the United States in November 6th? Is that something that's come up? Oh, you must be kidding. No, of course. And I'm ready. I'm ready with my sample ballot. Because a significant amount could change in politics and space politics and space policy, we're going to delay our usual space policy edition until well after the elections have happened. So we can bring you
Starting point is 00:01:50 post-election analysis, looking at any implications, if any, from the elections about what could be happening with space and NASA going forward. And so it's going to be a really interesting discussion. We're going to have some good external guests to bring their perspective as well. And we just figured it would be more interesting than just sitting and speculating about what might happen. It's always nicer to talk about what did happen and then maybe talk about what might happen because of that. And so now we're looking at Friday, November 16. So halfway into the month, as we look forward and as we speak, Casey, it is exactly one week. We speak on the day before
Starting point is 00:02:25 Halloween, maybe appropriately. What's at stake here? And what are some of the more interesting races from a space advocate's point of view? Well, probably the most relevant single race is going to be in Texas's 7th District. That's John Culberson, who's a big supporter of Europa and NASA and Johnson Space Center. He is in a very tight re-election, about a 50-50 toss-up right now with the Democrat running there. There's also the potential of the Democratic Party picking up control of the House of Representatives. And if that happens, it's not just the new Democratic members of Congress that will be coming in. the entire leadership structure will switch over to the Democratic Party. So you'll have new heads of the committees that run NASA's
Starting point is 00:03:09 oversight, scientific investigations. You'll have new heads of the committees that fund NASA, and they'll bring with them their own sets of priorities and focuses and efforts there. And all it takes is one extra Democrat than the Republican in the House of Representatives. Every single committee chair flips to Democratic control. So you can have big changes, even if you retain a lot of the Republicans and Democrats who are already in Congress, if you have a different majority. So that could be big implications for the future of NASA. What is the good news, regardless of this outcome? I'm going to bet it's that we have discovered
Starting point is 00:03:43 that there are so many members of Congress who love space exploration. That's true. Yeah, I'm not particularly afraid of any particular outcome. It's just that the fundamental political balance is going to shift or could shift. Everyone likes NASA, but unfortunately, NASA doesn't drive politics. NASA tends to get caught up in politics. And that's what we can examine going forward based on what happens on the 6th. All right, Casey, Friday, November 16, for the next Space Policy Edition of Planetary Radio. Hope you will join us then. But before I let you go, I'm going to look back to October 15, when you posted to the blog at planetary.org, really what amounts to a movie review. It made me a lot less enthusiastic
Starting point is 00:04:27 about seeing First Man. You called it a joyless First Man. Gee, did you have some fun? Yeah. I mean, there are parts of the movie that are certainly really visceral and exciting. I thought some of the ways that it depicted rocket launches, particularly the Gemini launch, was really spectacular. And normally, I really like the the ways that it depicted rocket launches, particularly the Gemini launch, was really spectacular. And normally, I really like the director of that movie and the actors in it. I just felt that the overall emotional tone was pretty one note. You know, it was a pretty mopey movie at kind of a downer of a movie about a person who, like any other human being, has a wealth of emotional experiences.
Starting point is 00:05:07 And I'm pretty sure enjoyed walking on the moon, wasn't all upset about it when he did that. And I just would have liked to have seen a slightly more nuanced, or at least just show some joy of the first man on the moon. And, you know, he was at least happy once on the moon. We have a picture you can prove it with. It's just sad that the movie didn't express that side of things. I'm so glad you mentioned that image. I'm looking at it right now. And here is Neil Armstrong back in the lunar module after that first walk on the moon. He is probably exhausted. And yet he has one of the most satisfied smiles,
Starting point is 00:05:39 probably on the face of, well, I guess on the face of the moon in this case. Small sample size, but probably also on the earth at the time too. But that's the point, right? Bill always talks about the joy of discovery, right? There's joy in this too. And it's important to express that. Not everything has to be very serious. You bet.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Hopefully we will get another telling of this story on the big screen someday that expresses some of that passion, beauty, and joy, the PB&J that our boss likes to talk about. In the meantime, Casey, I will wish you well and look forward to talking on November 16th. Absolutely. And if I could put in one plug, if you live in the United States, please vote on November 6th. It's a great thing to do as a citizen. It's a minimal responsibility that your democracy asks of you. And no matter which way your politics persuades you, if you don't vote, no one's going to listen to you. So voting is kind of the minimum activity of democracy. I encourage you to do it.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I'm going to go even further than that. If you are eligible to vote in this country, and you are a listener to this program, and you don't vote, then you are suspended from listening to Planetary Radio for a month. How's that for incentive? All right, Matt, I voted already, so I can keep listening. Good for you. Thank you, Casey. And thanks for all the other good work you do. Always happy to be here, Matt. That's Casey Dreyer, the Director of Space Policy for the Planetary Society. We're going to talk now about the end of one of the most successful missions of exploration of all time, the Kepler Exoplanet Mission. The launch of the Kepler Space Telescope in 2009 was a great night for astronomy and for exoplanets.
Starting point is 00:07:36 It was an unforgettable, beautiful night launch, and I was honored to attend that event with both Bill Beruki and Jesse Dotson. And I'm delighted to join them again here today when we're discussing the end of a stunningly successful space telescope operations. Bill's intense focus and dedication was an amazing example for all of us. He envisioned and made real a mission to answer a fundamental question that we've been asking for generations about our place in the universe. How common are small planets like Earth? Are they common or are they rare? And the answer that Kepler gave us is that planets are incredibly common and now because of that we're poised
Starting point is 00:08:17 to take the next steps to bring Kepler's exoplanet discoveries closer to home. That was Patti Boyd honoring the Kepler mission and its creator. On the morning, we learned that the spacecraft had run out of fuel. Patti is chief of the Exoplanets and Stellar Astrophysics Laboratory in NASA's Astrophysics Science Division. She's also a project scientist for the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite, or TESS, scientists for the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite, or TESS, an even more powerful follow-up to Kepler that has now picked up the hunt for worlds circling other stars. Patty participated in a media briefing that celebrated Kepler's enormous success. About 2,700 confirmed planets discovered by Kepler and the follow-on K2 mission, with an almost equal number yet to
Starting point is 00:09:06 be confirmed. Of those confirmed worlds, hundreds are Earth-sized, or nearly so. Tens of these are in their star's habitable, or Goldilocks, zone. Extrapolate that number and you learn that there may be as many as 40 billion such planets in the Milky Way galaxy. Charlie Sobeck is the Kepler Project System Engineer at NASA's Ames Research Center in California. We knew when we launched that the spacecraft would ultimately be limited by its fuel load. That fuel is used to offset the pressure of sunlight that affects the telescope's precision pointing. We began seeing clear indications that the fuel exhaustion, a fuel exhaustion in late June, and took steps to ensure that the science data we had collected on board was safely returned to the ground, and then that whatever fuel was left over would be
Starting point is 00:09:55 used to collect some last data and return to Earth as well. The final end to the spacecraft fuel was seen just two weeks ago when the fuel pressure dropped by 75% in a matter of a few hours, indicating that its ability to continue collecting science data had come to an end. Ultimately, the team managed to end the fuel with precision. They were perfect the way they did that. We collected every bit of possible science data and returned it all to the ground safely. In the end, we didn't have a drop of fuel left over for anything else. Kepler is currently trailing the Earth by about 94 million
Starting point is 00:10:29 miles and will remain a safe distance from the Earth for the foreseeable future. As our final spacecraft activity, we will disable the onboard fault protection and turn off the radio transmitters. The spacecraft will then be left on its own to drift away in a safe and stable orbit about the sun. Bill Beruki earned the kudos he got at the briefing. The retired Kepler principal investigator fought long and hard for a space telescope that could scan a section of the sky for evidence of exoplanets. I've been honored to have Bill as my guest on four previous episodes of Planetary Radio. Here are his opening remarks at the October 30 briefing. I've always been interested in astronomy. At Ames, I've had the
Starting point is 00:11:10 opportunity to contribute to a NASA strategic objective to determine the extent of life in our galaxy. Clearly, the first step must be to determine if planets are common or rare. In 1983, when I started my search for a method to detect planets orbiting other stars, the only planets that were known were those in our solar system. After several years of investigation, I decided the best approach to find small planets, like the Earth, would be to build an instrument to detect the slight dimming in the brightness of a star that occurs when a planet passes in front. These dimmings are called a transits. This dimming is only about one part
Starting point is 00:11:51 in 10,000 in star brightness. So I would have to build an instrument that was a thousand times better than anything previously built. It would also need to be very sensitive and precise to detect such small changes in dim stars. It was like trying to detect a flea crawling across a car headlight when a car was 100 miles away. And the instrument must do it for 150,000 stars simultaneously. Before I could convince NASA to fund the mission, I had to prove this approach would work. I assembled a team of scientists and engineers, and we proved that CCD detectors had the necessary sensitivity and precision. Then we built an observatory that demonstrated that we could monitor thousands of individual
Starting point is 00:12:38 stars simultaneously. Next we built a prototype instrument that demonstrated we could meet all the requirements and could do so aboard a spacecraft, and that our team could analyze all the data from all the stars and detect these very small signals. In 2001, we submitted our fifth proposal to NASA. This time, NASA was satisfied that the mission would be successful and gave us the go-ahead to develop the Kepler spacecraft. In 2009, the Kepler mission launched and immediately our team began detecting a wide variety of
Starting point is 00:13:15 planets. In its nine and a half years of operation, the Kepler mission has been an enormous success. We have shown that there are more planets than stars in our galaxy, that many of these planets are roughly the size of the Earth, and some, like the Earth, are at the right distance from their star, so there could be liquid water on their surface, a situation conducive to the existence of life. Kepler has also provided the statistics that are needed to build future, much more capable missions that will determine whether such planets have atmospheres, water, and a possibility of life. Kepler has truly opened a new vista in astronomy.
Starting point is 00:13:54 The mission might have ended very differently and much earlier. In May of 2013, the spacecraft had the second of four spinning reaction wheels fail. During the briefing, Kepler project scientist Jesse Dotson explained that this meant the spacecraft had lost the critical ability to precisely focus on a patch of sky for the long periods required. It looked like the end of Kepler's planet hunting. However, our team figured out an extremely clever way to keep operating the spacecraft and taking data. The amazing spacecraft engineers we have the privilege to work with on our team at Ball Aerospace figured out that we could use the solar pressure to provide pointing stability. In addition, to make the most out of our new operating mode, we decided to transition to a
Starting point is 00:14:42 fully open mission where everyone around the world was given immediate access to the latest data. This modern approach lowered the barrier for researchers, particularly early career researchers and even citizen scientists, to enter the growing and exciting field of exoplanet science. Over the past four years, the number of researchers using data from the Kepler spacecraft has doubled. In our extended mission, Kepler expanded and diversified its data set by observing another 20 patches of sky, increasing the number of stars observed with the Kepler spacecraft to well over half a million. While the science results are still emerging from this expanded data set,
Starting point is 00:15:24 it enabled new investigations by observing celestial objects which were not the focus of the original mission. For example, the extended mission studied a large number of bright and nearby stars. Bright stars are scientifically valuable since they are much easier to observe using other telescopes. We found many small, potentially rocky planets around some of these bright stars, and those are now prime targets of current and future telescopes, so we can move on to characterize what these planets are made of, how are they formed, and what their atmospheres
Starting point is 00:15:55 might be like. In addition, we have found exoplanets around both young stars and old stars, allowing us to begin understanding how planetary systems evolve. Scientists are using the results from these 20 fields to probe the history of stars in our galaxy and are even studying the early evolution of supernovae in other galaxies. While we have ceased spacecraft operations, the science results from the Kepler data will continue for years to come. These ongoing discoveries will be enabled by the powerful combination of new software tools, new data analysis methods such as machine learning,
Starting point is 00:16:31 and new data both from missions like TESS and upcoming missions like the James Webb Space Telescope. Patty Boyd returned to talk about how TESS, which started its hunt last April, is building on Kepler's achievements. And TESS is designed to look for planets that are orbiting around bright, nearby stars, typically 10 times closer than the stars that Kepler found planets around. And TESS will observe nearly all of the sky. We're hoping to find our near-neighbor planetary systems. Now already, the team is beginning to analyze the first data that's coming down to the ground, and we're finding exciting planet candidates, and teams are
Starting point is 00:17:10 following those up with telescopes on the ground. And we're confident the test is going to find thousands more planets, just like Kepler did. I was among the many reporters waiting to question the media briefing participants. Bill Baruchi was asked if he had favorites among Kepler's many discoveries. Certainly one of the most interesting planets we've found is Kepler-22b. It's a planet in between the size of the Earth and Neptune, unlike any planet in our solar system. It's a planet that may very well be a water world, a world covered with an ocean, and it's in the habitable zone,
Starting point is 00:17:44 which implies, of course, that if you've got an ocean and liquid water, it's going to evaporate, you're going to have a water atmosphere, water vapor atmosphere, there's lots of nitrogen, CO2 in our solar system. You might very well have an atmosphere on a water planet that could lead to life. So it's an extremely interesting planet. It's one of my favorites. But another one is the Kepler-444 system of planets. These are small rocky planets,
Starting point is 00:18:12 and they were formed around a star that's some 6.5 billion years older than our own star, than our own planetary system. If life has been developing over the 6.5 billion years before Earth was formed, there may be some very interesting life forms for us to find as we search these early planets. Hello, everyone. Congratulations to you and your teams. A question probably mostly for Bill, Jesse, and or Patty.
Starting point is 00:18:40 If you could say something about the importance of your partnerships with the ground-based astronomers who have taken the data from Kepler, and I assume now from TESS, and are making these confirmations of all these worlds around our portion of the galaxy. I'd like to answer that one. It's Bill Baruchi. They've been absolutely essential to our discoveries. Kepler finds the size of these planets, but we really want to know, are they rocky planets, gas planets, or something else? So the ground-based people with their telescopes, with the use of the Keck telescope and several other telescopes, give us the math.
Starting point is 00:19:18 And that has been tremendously helpful. And what that means, of course, is they have to get time on these big telescopes. They have to make the measurements. And that's difficult. It's difficult to get that time. It's difficult to have the state-of-the-art systems they use and reduce the data and say, yes, indeed, that particular signal, although it's tiny, is of a planet. You do have a mass now. So the ground-based people who've done radial velocity, the ground-based people who do adaptive optics and so on have made a huge help in terms of understanding the data that Kepler has brought down. I think Bill absolutely nailed that perfectly. Without the complementary
Starting point is 00:19:59 data from the ground telescopes, there are a lot of questions about what we find. But with that ground data, we can know that we see planets and we can measure the masses. Maybe Patty can talk about the follow-up programs for TESS? Sure, I'd love to. This is Patty. It's a very smooth continuum between what we're discovering with the space telescopes, such as TESS, and then a large community of ground-based follow-up that is going to help us turn those discoveries into something that is a confirmed planet. We fund this activity from NASA. It's very well coordinated, and that's very important, too, because ground-based telescope time is a very precious asset. So the teams work together to make sure that the best planet candidates are being sent
Starting point is 00:20:43 to the right types of telescopes. There's new instrumentation that's being developed with an eye towards even, you know, improving our ability to make these confirmation measurements from the ground. And I think it's just essential for us all to remember that we make exciting discoveries with these NASA space telescopes, but it's so important for us to also have a very engaged, active, ground-based community so they can really confirm those results and get the most science out of these NASA missions. I'd like to add a little bit more to that. This is Bill Barucki again. One of the things that we talk about is the size of the planet. What Kepler
Starting point is 00:21:20 gives us is a ratio of the size of the star to the size of the planet. It's absolutely essential for the theoreticians and the people who work with radio velocity and spectra to tell us what truly is the size of that star. We have a group, a very large group of people who do astroseismology in Europe, and they use the pulsations of these stars to actually tell us the diameter of the star within a couple of percent. Far, far better than any other method we have. And now we have our European colleagues who have the Gaia mission, and they can, for the first time, determine accurately how far away the stars are. Again, that gives us more information about how big our planets are
Starting point is 00:22:01 and whether they're in a habitable zone or not. So it's really a big international team that provides the data that we give to the public. We'll close our coverage of the Kepler end-of-mission briefing as we begin with Patty Boyd. The Kepler results are also informing our future mission designs so that we can take the step even beyond that with much larger glass. So I believe the world will remember the Kepler telescope for generations to come because Kepler gave us the very best answer to that question that we could have hoped for. We live in a galaxy that's teeming with planets, and we are ready to take the next step to explore those planets.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Highlights of the October 30th media briefing that marked the end of the nine-and-a-half-year Kepler mission. Within hours of the briefing, I was joined by Planetary Society Senior Editor Emily Lakdawalla and Digital Editor Jason Davis. It's an honor to have the two, count them, two editors from the Planetary Society to talk about this milestone that we reached today with the end of this amazingly successful mission. Emily, it has taken us, not quite single-handed because, of course, there was good work being done down here on the surface before Kepler. It has taken us from a day decades ago when we wondered if there were planets around other stars, and now we kind of have answered that, haven't we? We really have. And it's such a striking contrast to think that when I was a kid, we didn't know if we were the only solar system out there in the universe.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And now I love telling in my public talks, I love telling people to look up at the sky, look at every star you can see, and imagine the fact that we now know that there are roughly as many planets as there are stars. Now, not every star has a planet, but many planets, I'm sorry, many stars have multiple planets. And so that there is really a kind of an equivalence in number. And if you just think then of all the varieties of different kinds of planets that have to be out there, all the varieties of different systems, you know that there are other Earth-like worlds out there. And it just seems so much more possible that there could be life elsewhere in the universe after a mission like Kepler. We still don't know if that's true yet, of course, but we're looking.
Starting point is 00:24:17 We're working on it. Jason, you just this morning, as we speak, on October 30th, published this great farewell Kepler blog post at planetary.org, which I definitely recommend to anyone out there. You've even updated it since the announcement was made during this media briefing that we just heard excerpts from. What really stands out to you about this mission? Like Emily said, the big discovery and the big result that there are as many planets out there as stars in our own galaxy. But I think also some of the individual contributions that it made to exoplanet science. We've not only found that there are a lot of these worlds, but we found that they're
Starting point is 00:24:55 very diverse. And it's funny how we kind of look at everything through the lens of our own solar system. So we call things like hot Jupiters and super Earths and sort of Neptunes and Uranus and things like that. But the fact that this mission finally confirmed for us, not only are there all these exoplanets, but some of them are sitting in other stars as habitable zones. So that means that liquid water could theoretically exist on their surfaces. And that there are some of them out there that are roughly the same mass and size as Earth. That happened in the past nine years, and it's really cool to think about that, that now we know that there are these very good places to look for life,
Starting point is 00:25:38 and hopefully in some of the next generation telescopes, we'll be able to look at them a little bit closer. Of course, a lot of us want to find other Earths and find places where there could be life and habitable zones. But the other cool thing about Kepler is how many strange worlds it's revealed. Places where there is like atmosphere made of vaporized rock and things with winds that are blowing at practically the speed of sound from one side of the planet to the other because the orbit's so close to their stars. Other worlds that have all different kinds of weird hazes, others that have raining drops of metal. It's bizarre. There's so many strange places out there. There's lots of fuel for good science fiction stories. Yeah. I wonder what it says about our ability to imagine things that science fiction
Starting point is 00:26:25 had all of these cool worlds in it. And then we found that they basically exist. I mean, it's a pretty cool testament to the human capacity for imagination that we figured, yeah, all these things are probably out there. And now we know that a lot of them are. But a lot of the things that we found are things that we never imagined, like hot Jupiters in particular, just upended all ideas of planetary system formation. We've had to go back to the drawing board multiple times, thanks to results from Kepler, to imagine just how some of these systems could have formed. And then those things that, as Arthur Eddington said, that we can't imagine until we find them. We're not capable
Starting point is 00:26:59 of imagining them. That happens over and over. We heard in at least one of the clips, and we've talked about on this show in the past, how Bill Beruki, who was called by one of the participants, and very accurately, the father of the Kepler mission, about the years that he spent in the wilderness trying to convince NASA and others that this would be a good investment. And then to look back on it now at the end of the mission and see how it has paid off so terrifically. I just wonder if you have any thoughts about that as an approach to doing planetary science. It's not typical, is it? Yeah, it definitely has this same origin story as missions like New Horizon, where there was one person who spent a lot of effort at the
Starting point is 00:27:45 beginning trying to convince people that it was a doable mission and that it could be done affordably in a lot of cases. One thing that's problematic about requiring a lot of missions to propose multiple times and get rejected multiple times before getting selected is that then you really only have very senior established people proposing new missions. You don't bring in new people, new in the field with creative ideas, recently educated, knowing new ways of doing things. And so it tends to kind of perpetuate the sort of same people leading missions over time. And NASA has fixed this slightly through participating scientist programs that can add new early career scientists later on in the process.
Starting point is 00:28:26 But it is kind of a selection pressure for older people leading these, what are supposed to be these new and riskier kinds of missions. That's an excellent point, Emily. something else. And that is how much this mission depended on the equally fantastic advancements we have seen in camera technology over the last, I was going to say 50 years, but let's say even 20 years. A single Kepler image is 95 megapixels, which I don't know what smartphones are up to these days. Not that many. 12, 14 megapixels. Yeah. And this thing launched in April 2009. At the time, it was the largest space camera ever flown. In researching for this article, doing the background on it, I was trying to figure out if it's still the largest space camera ever flown. Maybe Emily knows the answer to that, but this was very difficult to pull off. And it really was groundbreaking in a lot of ways for future missions that use this kind of technology. really was groundbreaking in a lot of ways for future missions that use this kind of technology. It's true that most deep space cameras, most cameras sent beyond Earth and moon orbit are really a shockingly small number of pixels. So I don't actually know the answer to your question. I'm sure somebody listening to this will be able to tell me the correct one, but I'd be willing to
Starting point is 00:29:38 bet it's still the biggest detector ever sent beyond Earth, moon orbit. I want to close with one more thing that came out of the discussion, and that was how the Kepler mission was rescued. I mean, it really could have ended somewhat prematurely if it hadn't been for some very clever action by the Kepler team back here on Earth, some brilliant engineering that saved it when that second reaction wheel went out. And this does seem to be a recurring theme, almost a rule, that no matter how well a mission is prepared, it goes out there and we run into problems. And maybe more often than not, I won't make a firm claim of that, people find ways to
Starting point is 00:30:22 keep them trucking along. I think you're on the right track. You know, whenever I hear that there's a problem with the space mission and not talking about just Kepler, say there's a problem with Curiosity where it switches to its backup computer, I never worry. And I don't know if that's a bad thing, if I have too much confidence in the scientists behind these, but it just, I think we're spoiled. It started kind of with, well, back in the early days of planetary science, but for me following missions, you know, it started with Hubble that we went up there and fixed the thing like four or five times. And Kepler, no exception, you know, they were able to, when some of the reaction wheels failed,
Starting point is 00:30:59 they were able to use solar radiation pressure to point it in the correct direction. And yeah, I do tend to get spoiled. I think that I'm like, yeah, no, they'll figure it out. The engineers always have a solution to the problem. As long as you're in communication with the spacecraft, there's hope. It's when the spacecraft falls silent that it suddenly gets a lot more dire. But even when a spacecraft goes silent for months, there's several stories of spacecraft coming back to life, being relocated as they pass closer to Earth or as an antenna points in the right direction, then all of a sudden they're recoverable. So even loss of contact isn't a death knell for a mission. I'll only add that this solution via solar radiation, we don't miss a chance to talk about solar sailing, do we?
Starting point is 00:31:43 We don't miss a chance to talk about solar sailing, do we? Yes, this is the same force, of course, that propels solar sails like light sail. You have a history of space missions using solar radiation pressure in unusual ways, or at least having to account for it. If you don't account for it, it is a legit force that will push your spacecraft in the different orientations that you wanted it to be in. force that will push your spacecraft in the different orientations than you wanted it to be in. In this case, of course, the Kepler mission managers managed to evenly distribute that force across the spacecraft and kind of use that as the third reaction wheel. So yep, go light sail, of course. Brilliant. I want to thank you both. It is always fun to talk to you individually. So of course, it's at least two and a half times as fun to talk to you together.
Starting point is 00:32:28 And I look forward to doing it again soon. Yep. Thanks, Matt. Thank you, Matt. Emily Lakdawalla is the Senior Editor and Planetary Evangelist for the Planetary Society. Jason Davis is our Digital Editor, another of our colleagues coming up now as we turn to Bruce Betts for this week's edition of What's Up. Time for the Halloween 2018 edition of Planetary Radio. Yeah, I know most of you are probably hearing this after the big spooky day, but just the same, that's when it becomes available, and that's when I'm greeting Bruce Betts. Welcome back, Chief Scientist.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Good to be back, Matt. I have an upfront comment for you. What we're doing contradicts him. It's George Turner in Boulder, Colorado. He says, thanks for keeping the show not only interesting and informative and inspirational, but a special thanks for not going to the immature humor side. Too many science shows have fallen into that trap, unfortunately. Do you think he's actually heard our show?
Starting point is 00:33:27 Oh, rude noises indeed. Yeah. Highbrow humor and things high in the sky. And the most amazing segues on radio. So tell us what's up there. So in the evening, we're losing Jupiter. We're losing Jupiter, man. Oh, no. But you still might be able to check it out low on the horizon shortly after sunset in the west. And Mercury is joining it. But also, again, you'll have to have a pretty clear view to the western horizon. But if you look as sunset just starts to fade, Jupiter will be very, very
Starting point is 00:34:05 bright, and Mercury will also look like a bright star, but not nearly as bright. But hey, the good news for you up early in the morning people is it's going to become the new party in planets, and it's starting with Venus. Venus looking super bright in the pre-dawn east, and you can check it out hanging out near the star Spica, which will look bluish and look like a bright star, but not nearly as bright as Venus. Spica, the brightest star in the constellation Virgo. Oh, and by the way, they'll both be near the moon on November 6th.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Thank you. All right, we move on to this week in space history. It's our yearly remembrance of the dog that didn't have a choice, but operated bravely, the first creature in space, Laika, on Sputnik 2, dog in space. A street dog who made good, gave his life for, or her life, wasn't it, for space exploration? Less conflicted news, 45 years ago, Mariner 10 was launched. Mariner 10, the first spacecraft to give us our close-up views of Mercury, also the first spacecraft to ever do a gravity-assist flyby, in this case of Venus, which was crafted, as we talked about, I think,
Starting point is 00:35:18 last week by the astronomer Beppe Colombo, who now has a spacecraft headed off to Mercury. All right, we move on to Random Space Fag. No! That really wasn't very terrifying, was it? But it was entertaining. All right. On October 29th, 2018, just happened,
Starting point is 00:35:42 the Parker Solar Probe broke the record for the closest spacecraft to the sun, approaching to within 42.73 million kilometers of the solar surface, or what we call the surface, the photosphere. And it broke the record for the fastest spacecraft relative to the sun at 246,960 kilometers per hour. Parker Solar Probe will keep breaking its records, culminating in 2024 when it will go about seven times closer than it is now, getting within 6.16 million kilometers of the sun's surface. Wow. And I thought about this. It's like 5% of the distance Earth is from the sun, roughly, in that range. So a hot time in the old town in 2024. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:36:32 And a way to add a tag on random space fact. Yes, absolutely. Okay, we're ready for the contest, I believe. All right. We asked you, on a typical pair of binoculars, what do the two numbers mean? For example, 10 by 50 binoculars. How do we do, Matt? Great response to this. And a lot of people who expressed interest in your book. Yeah, Astronomy for Kids. And we're giving away the first copy of that with this winner to the winner of this week's contest, I should say. But there will be another one awarded in the new contest, so stay tuned. We're going to let our poet laureate, Dave Fairchild in Shawnee, Kansas, provide the answer. He's not the winner, though. Here we go. Check your binoculars. Look for the numbers. You'll find that there are two that you really should know. The
Starting point is 00:37:21 first is the power that brings things up closer, the magnification of stellar tableau. And as for the second, the aperture number, it's true that in this case, the bigger is best. It measures the width of the objective lenses. The light they can gather will here be expressed. Not bad, huh? Not bad. I like all of Dave's work, but I think this was particularly good.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Nice rhymes there. It was a particular challenge to write a poem about numbers on binoculars. No question. And there is no question, therefore, that our winner is a first-time winner, Cameron Landers in Houston, Texas. in Houston, Texas. He indeed said that you were talking about magnification and the second number being the lens diameter of the objective lenses on the opposite end, and you don't look through except for fun.
Starting point is 00:38:15 And he adds, love the show and had said, and its enthusiasm for human exploration of space keep up the great work. Well, Cameron, we'll do our best. And you are the winner of a Planetary Radio t-shirt from the Planetary Society's Chop Shop Store. You can check it out at chopshopstore.com. And a 200-point itelescope.net astronomy account from iTelescope, that worldwide network of telescopes that anybody can make use of if you have an account. And maybe most significantly this time,
Starting point is 00:38:50 a signed copy of Bruce's book, brand new book, Astronomy for Kids, a terrific introduction to the night sky and how to enjoy it. And I talk about things like binocular numbers in there, and I've heard it's of interest to adults as well as kids. You heard that from me and probably from some other adults. But yeah, you heard it here first.
Starting point is 00:39:12 TJ Grzykowiak, he says, love the show. Listen every week. He says, I've been interested in a set of binoculars to help my five-year-old son get more interested in the sky. So thanks for making me dive down the binoculars wormhole online. So we gave him a good start there. I know a good book that your five-year-old might also enjoy there too, TJ. James Buffamonte in Allegheny, New York. He says, my old golden field guide says you want to select a pair of binoculars with the best relative light efficiency, or RLEs.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Are you familiar with that? A little bit, yes. He says, take the aperture divided by the power squared. So in a pair of 7x50 binoculars, the RLE is 1.02. He says, you want an RLE of one or more for the best viewing. 7x50s are best for that reason. I don't know, that may be a little bit subjective, that recommendation at the end there, but I thought that was interesting. From Naharari Rao in Sugarland, Texas, with a decent set of binoculars, 7x35, which is pretty common. That's what I've got. You can see he says roughly about 100,000 stars as opposed to 3,000 stars with your naked eye. I assume this is, you know, in a pretty dark place and under clear skies, Bruce.
Starting point is 00:40:32 And I assume he counted. Yeah, that would be under dark sky conditions. We'll send that to our crack fact-checking squad as soon as we hire one. Finally, this from Martin Hajoski in Houston, Texas. He says, yeah, okay, that's what most people think the numbers mean. But he says, though, I guess we could also refer to the first number as the Kaplan number and the second number as the Betz number, but then the universe would be more perfect than it already is, right? Right. And my number's bigger.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Thank you, Martin. That's it. We're ready to go on. All right. So before the Parker Solar Probe broke the records for closest spacecraft approach to the sun and fastest spacecraft relative to the sun, what spacecraft held those records? Held both of those records? Go to planetary.org slash radio contest. Huh.
Starting point is 00:41:28 You have until Wednesday, November 7 at 8 a.m. Pacific time to get us the answer to this one. there is a copy of Bruce's book waiting for you, along with a 200-point itelescope.net account and a Planetary Radio t-shirt. A pretty wonderful prize package, if I do say so myself. Everybody, go out there, look up at the night sky, think about the inverted view through binoculars when you are upside down. Thank you, and good night. That's Bruce Betts, the Chief Scientist for the Planetary Society. He knows which way is up, and he joins us right side up
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