Plumbing the Death Star - How Would You Handle Having the 6th Sense from the Sixth Sense?
Episode Date: November 19, 2023We see dead people and it’s making us angry! Go away ghosts before we start taking medication to stop seeing you! Zammit proposes a new kind of heaven, Jackson puts forward his new hit TV series ‘...The Ghost Gettler’ and JD doesn’t think you’ll guess the right Wahlberg. So listen in as we try and figure out a way to monetise seeing the dead, wonder how many ghosts are in any given space and do our best to loophole immortality. We might not know a lot about anything, but we do know that we’re chockers full of ghosts and that Jesus was a tradie.Links to everything in our linktr.ee including our terrible merch, social media garbage and where to become a subscriber to Bad Brain Boys+ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hey everyone. Come in. Welcome to this week's episode of Plumbing the Death Star. I'm Joe. You're listening to the Sandspans Network. Oh no, ghosts.
I can see them every time I look at them.
Cheers to a good episode.
Don't do that.
What if it's bad?
No, you've guaranteed it'll be a good episode.
All right, so we're Hayley, Joe, Osman.
Yes.
And we're like...
Me and Zama are halfway there.
Well, one third there.
Yeah.
Joel and Joe.
I get it.
Joe!
Who the fuck's Joe?
Joe and Joe.
Joe Zama and Joe Dusha.
Right?
And I'm Jason.
Joe, Joe, and Jason.
Yeah, I know.
This is an alternate reality episode.
No, yeah.
So Haley Joel Osment.
Now, he's born with the sixth sense.
The sixth sense, of course, being the ability to perceive the dead,
i.e. ghosts.
See ghosts, talk to them.
And the big problem with the ghosts is they don't even know that they're dead.
Dumbest cunts in the spiritual realm.
Come on, dickhead.
I think if I knew that they were,
if I met a ghost,
I would be just angry
that he didn't know that he was dead.
What do you mean you don't fucking know you're dead,
you stupid idiot?
You've got the wounds,
I mean, I guess,
because I'm imagining you don't.
Look, do you want me to give you
a quick rundown of the sixth sense
so you can maybe,
maybe this will make you slightly less frustrated?
Okay, please.
I mean, to answer the question that you just posed there,
in the Sixth Sense, ghosts only see what they want to see, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bruce Willis, spoilers, whom is dead.
He got shot by a guy called Vincent, played by a Wahlberg,
but not the one you're thinking of.
Unless you're thinking of Donnie, in which case it is the one you're thinking of.
Whoa.
So Bruce Willis.
Maybe Simon has the sixth sense.
I can't remember Bruce Willis' name,
but I can remember Vincent,
played by Donnie Wahlberg,
who is only in a couple of scenes.
Yeah, yeah.
He breaks into Bruce Willis' house,
and he's like, hey.
You didn't fix me.
You fucked me up more.
Bang, bang.
Oh, no.
Bruce Willis and shoots himself.
Yeah.
His wife's sad.
Months later.
Not Vincent.
Okay.
Well, presumably Vincent's wife if he had a wife.
Yeah, we're not sure.
We don't know if he's still out.
Anyway.
Fair enough.
After the shooting, Bruce Willis' wife, very distant.
Yeah.
And then Bruce Willis, who is a psychiatrist or psychologist.
I can't remember which one. Yeah. Does he give Haley Joel Osment medication psychiatrist or psychologist. I can't remember which one.
Does he give Haley Joel Osment medication for the ghosts?
I can't remember.
I don't think so.
I don't know if there is a medication.
Well, he thinks he's schizophrenic at first,
so there's definitely medication for that.
Anyway, so he starts seeing Cole, who is Haley Joel Osment.
Right.
And he's like, fuck, you remind me of Vincent, that guy whom shot me.
I'm going to try really hard to fix you
and also I'm going to hyper fixate on this case.
That's a crazy thing to say to a little boy.
Well, he didn't say that to him.
He was just thinking it.
Okay, fair enough.
And Cole's like,
hey, brother,
I haven't told anyone this,
but I freaking see fucking dead people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice.
And then Bruce Willis is like,
no, you don't.
You just have schizophrenia. Yeah. I'm nice. And then Bruce Willis is like, no, you don't. You just have schizophrenia.
Yeah.
And then he goes back and he listens to a tape of Vincent,
and Vincent's like, I can hear a man talking in Spanish.
And then he realizes, oh, shit, Cole and Vincent,
these two bitches can hear ghosts and see them.
Whoa!
And then they figure out, I can't remember how.
Yeah.
Can't remember how, but they figure out that ghosts simply just need to be either listened to and understood and guided out of the earth.
And then they go to heaven or hell.
Yeah, because usually you see a couple of ghosts.
There's a cyclist that gets hit.
He dies and he just chuffs off.
He just rides on past and he seems to have lived a life, and he doesn't need to be listened to.
He's like, I got it.
I figured it out now.
My lesson was,
probably shouldn't have been hit by that truck.
I want to say Misha Barton.
Oh, is that the teen girl that spewed up heaps?
Yeah, the Munchausen's by proxy girl.
Anyway, there's a videotape,
and the ghost takes Misha Barton, maybe.
Yeah, yeah.
The OC. Yeah, yeah. The OC.
Yeah, yeah.
But she dies in that too.
Oh, my God.
Rest in peace.
Spoilers for the OC.
God gained two angels.
God gained the same angel twice.
Wow.
If you die in a movie, a version of you does go to heaven.
But then they die in a TV show, so now two versions.
Yeah, and then when eventually they die in real life, that's three.
Do they go to separate heavens?
No.
No, TV heaven and real heaven are the same heaven.
Is TV heaven and movie heaven the same?
Jesus Christ is there a lot.
Whoa.
Sometimes he looked like Willem Dafoe.
Sometimes he looked like Jimmy Caviezel.
Sometimes he looked, I guess, like the historic Christ.
What did the biblical Christ look like?
Let's decide here and now.
I'm guessing the olive skin.
Like a guy from Bethlehem.
Imagine you're a classic Bethlehem guy.
That's Christ.
He's got curly hair.
Was he hot, do you reckon?
No.
Come on.
I think he was fucking hot as hell.
He was a carpenter, so that means he would have been in the sun all day.
I actually was watching a thing recently, and carpenter is not an accurate, probably, translation.
Oh, no, tell me more.
He was probably more like a day laborer.
So he was like a tradie.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So he didn't build tables and shit.
He just, like, helped build houses.
He helped build a table Yeah yeah yeah exactly
You didn't go to him to get a table
He was like part of a crew
Putting up a house
So Joseph still
He was a carpenter?
Uh yes
I think Joseph was a carpenter
And Christ
Could either
It's like it could either be translated
As son of a carpenter
Which he was
But also the word they use for carpenter
Might mean day laborer as well
So he could just be son of
He might not even be a day laborer himself He might not even be a day laborer himself.
He could be son of a day laborer.
You heard it here first, everyone.
Jesus Christ, tradie.
Yes!
It's easy to imagine him holding a tradie's briefcase or whatever,
i.e. a big bag of cooked chicken.
Have you known that phrase, a tradie's briefcase?
I was like, yeah, it's the bachelor handbag.
Oh, yeah. Maybe I'm confusing that. I think you are a tradie's briefcase? I was going to say, yeah, it's the bachelor handbag. Oh, yeah.
Maybe I'm confusing that.
I'm just like, a tradie's briefcase.
What do you think happens on a construction site?
Yeah, and also, like, I can't imagine a tradie holding a chicken.
I can imagine them holding a Big M.
Yeah, Big M and a sausage roll.
Iced coffee, cigarettes.
That's true.
Stubbies, like, you know, nice short shorts and, like, explorer socks.
Maybe a nut out.
Oh, Jesus is wearing robes. He's nuts wearing robes. On the cross, he was in, like, you know, nice short shorts and, like, explorer socks. Maybe a nut out. Oh, Jesus is wearing robes.
He's nuts wearing robes.
On the cross, he was in, like, I said, a little loincloth.
Yeah.
And you were looking at him from, like, the perfect angle to see a nut.
You were like, it's sad that the son of God is being nailed to a cross, but it's awesome.
I can see his nuts.
His nut hanging out.
Would you have, you know, with the greatest reverence, sort of popped it back in?
I would have used a stick.
Using a stick. I'mence, sort of popped it back in. I would have used a stick. You'd have used a stick.
I'm sorry, son of God.
Roman legion, give me that spear.
I'm going to turn it around.
Don't worry, I'm piercing your nuts.
I'm doing it with the blunt end.
What are you doing?
I'm fixing your nuts.
Just go to heaven already.
You pop it in, then the other nut pops out the other side.
You've got to get two sticks.
Yeah.
And his dick pops out the top.
What's going on in your pants, Jesus Christ?
I've got fidgety nuts.
I can see.
I can tell.
I can see.
I don't know, some kind of like a pitchfork or something.
Three prongs, maybe.
Can you give me a lot of Romans so I can get up there and figure it out?
This has gone from subtle to horribly disrespectful
please stop touching his nuts okay all right i'm trying to help anyway enjoy heaven or whatever
um anyway so people go to yeah so misha barton maybe she's her ghosts guides cole and bruce
willis to a videotapepe and the videotape is proof
that she was poisoned
by her mother.
So then they take that video
to the cops
and it turns out
that she was trying
to poison Younger.
And they just play it
at the wake.
Whoa.
That's for one.
And the dad is just like,
the fuck?
Yeah, fair enough.
And then I think
the authorities get involved.
There's someone
who got shot in the head,
but I can't remember how they fixed that.
Anyway, so you try and fix it, and then as time goes on,
Bruce Willis is like,
God damn, my wife still doesn't acknowledge me.
We're so distant.
I reckon they'll be coming for divorce now.
He notices that he's not wearing his wedding ring or something,
or maybe it falls off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then he's like... It falls on the ground. He's like, but that's my wedding ring or something, or maybe it falls off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he's like...
It falls on the ground.
He's like, but that's my wedding ring.
Oh, no!
I'm a ghost.
And then he goes into the mirror.
Not into the mirror.
He goes to look in the mirror,
and he looks for his bullet wound,
and then he finds that it's a big gaping wound still,
and he's like, ah, I've been fucking dead this whole time.
So if a ghost doesn't know,
the wounds that they experience to kill them might not turn up on their body?
I think they don't see it.
I reckon that whole time, little Haley was like, he's got that wound.
But when do I tell him?
Because if you are, again, if you're talking to a ghost, and the ghost don't know you're a ghost,
then how do I know that that's a ghost?
Yeah, it could just be a really hurt man. I'm not helping you, you know it a ghost. And how do I know that that's a ghost? Yeah, it could just be a really hurt man.
I'm not helping you.
You're not a ghost.
Because if I don't see the wounds or I don't see what's going on,
then I have no reason to believe or speculate that they are ghosts.
That's very true.
Because if they're just a guy like, oh, it's a child psychologist,
and I'm chatting with them, and then, oh, there's the hole.
But then it's like oh there's a hole
on the appear
when they realize
yeah
do I always see that hole
can you touch a ghost
does Hayley ever touch her
do they ever hug
yeah does he ever get
cause like
I don't think so
they wouldn't
I think that would be a hint to
yeah yeah yeah
yeah they can't interact
with the real world
cause that's just a good way
to test
but also
yeah
like
they
like Cole's mum
still takes Cole to the psychiatrist,
whom is a ghost.
So what is happening there?
Oh, so she takes him to the place?
Well, she'd have to.
He's a little boy.
Does he come to her house and then hang out with the boy?
Do we see that?
Isn't it an office?
Or is it like a little bit of a smash cut,
and it's kind of like, you know, scene missing, we just assume.
But then she's worried about her boy.
Funny, because you know the classic thing is like your kids talking to their imaginary friend and it's a monster or whatever.
Who are you talking to, Billy?
And he's like, my child psychologist.
Huh.
I don't know if that's worse or good.
That's weirder.
Are they helping you?
Yeah. But they're dead. Oh. Ah, they are a ghost. I don't know if that's worse or good That's weirder Are they helping you? Yeah
But they're dead
Oh
They are a ghost
Well is it a helpful ghost though?
Yeah
I just think it'd be more
Yeah more concerning
If you were Tony Collette
In this situation
Yeah
Being like
Who's my kid?
What's going on there?
What's that?
Why is he going on that
Young girl's wake?
Yeah
I let my kid get away with a lot
Yeah
How many ghosts are there in any
given space?
Say in this studio,
this has been around for a while, people probably died.
Used to be
a shop. Someone probably died shopping.
Used to be a shop. There was bullet
wounds in the front when we bought it.
That's right.
Saying a building has bullet
wounds is good. That's not a joke
This studio does have bullet holes
Someone shot this place up pre-us being here
Which is even more surprising
If they shot it while we were here I'd understand
Stop talking shit
Yeah fair enough
Okay
But so
Over a long enough period of time
How many ghosts To a square meter I don't of time, how many ghosts?
So wait.
To a square meter.
Here's why I don't think there's probably many ghosts, right?
Okay.
So the Earth is spinning at whatever million miles per second.
Sure.
Seven or eight or whatever.
It's not just spinning in a spot.
It's also moving, right?
Yeah, but the ghosts.
But if you're a ghost, what if you're stuck?
Yeah.
Because ghosts aren't physically here.
Yeah.
So they're all sort of loose.
Right?
So unless they are attached to this earthly realm,
I reckon they're getting flung off into space.
But we don't see that in the movie.
We don't see it because we only see the people that are attached to earthly.
Because it's a classic.
It's also a classic.
So you think that if you die and you know you've died.
Well, you get spun off into space.
Yeah, like there's nothing there.
Like you can't, you know, ghostly grab onto whatever.
So then there's nothing holding on to Earth.
And while Earth is just chuffing off into the infinite beyond.
Yeah.
They're just like, what?
Okay.
I was going to say, is this an alternative to heaven?
A little bit of an alternative to heaven.
You can either go to heaven.
Then what happens when the Earth gets back?
It doesn't, though.
It doesn't.
It's always moving forward.
The whole...
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Yeah, we're always going...
Eventually, I guess your ghost goes...
Well, it stays a little bit in Mars for a bit.
That's true.
Then it's like, oh, yeah, maybe I'll be attached to this.
Get attached to a rock.
Then you get attached to a rock.
Or to a spaceman in the future.
Go to the Hubble telescope.
Yeah.
What's the speed of a ghost?
I don't know if it has one.
Because, I mean, it's up to the ghost.
Well, no, because you'd be stationary and everything would be moving through you, right?
Yeah, that's true.
What's the speed of space?
I hate asking questions.
I don't know why you've taken us down this path.
Well, if you're a ghost.
Because space has no speed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a vacuum.
Famously.
So if you're...
You'll say, this is the space that Earth was in.
And then someone dies.
And a little ghost.
I'll be the ghost.
You're the ghost there.
And then the Earth is like, well, it fucks off that way.
So that's going out that way.
Presumably, whatever is in the Earth's wake.
So like, the moon.
Oh, okay.
Mars. Yeah, yeah. Asteroid belt. All. So like, the moon, Mars,
asteroid belt,
all that.
Goes past the ghost.
Goes past the ghost.
The ghost is like,
everything's going so fast.
I guess everything is going so fast
that the ghost is sitting in blue.
Yeah.
I am confused
how you got to the question you asked
based on that explanation.
What was space in your mind?
What do you mean the speed of space?
Because you just answered...
Everything else is going past it.
So it's on a side of a road.
And say if a car is...
Mars is a car.
I understand.
Because things will just...
Just keep going past it.
But then to take it back,
what are you asking?
I guess where's the ghost going to go? But then to take it back, what are you asking?
I guess where's the ghost going to go?
Could the ghost go further past the galaxy?
I don't think the ghost is moving.
Well, in your theory, the ghost is not moving,
which means it's not going anywhere.
And so Earth is just leaving a trail of ghosts.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's kind of cool.
I think that's what's happening here. Because also, you hear classic ghost stories where people are like,
I saw a freaking ghost in my house,
but it was walking like the floor was up to its knees or whatever.
What the fuck?
And then people are like, oh, the floor used to be lower or higher or whatever.
So the ghost, it's not bound by floor.
It seems to be bound by whatever was going on when it died.
Yeah.
But yeah, I guess to take it back to your question of how many ghosts in a space,
if we base it on the sixth sense, they're around and they're scary
because they don't know they're dead, so they're freaking out.
Yeah.
Are they freaking out or are they just going by the day to day life?
I think it depends because you get your Bruce Willis ghosts who think they're still out. Yeah. Are they freaking out or are they just going by the day to day life? I think it depends because you get your
Bruce Willis ghosts
who think they're still alive.
Dickhead.
But then you also get ghosts
that are like,
what's going on?
I'm under your bed,
Hayley Joel Osment.
Yeah, and there's a ghost
in a cupboard at the school.
Because Mr. Barton,
maybe,
is just like,
I'm still sick.
It sucks that your illness
doesn't go when you're dead.
That is a bummer.
A ghost that's spewing up
all the time.
Well, is it like
if your death
was particularly traumatic, you're freaking out That is a bummer. A ghost that's spewing up all the time. Well, is it like if your death was particularly traumatic,
you're freaking out?
Like, say I got
hit by helicopter blades.
Yep.
So I did,
base jumped really wrong.
Three, two, one,
and you jumped up.
Whiz.
That's crazy that we,
well, we stay,
oh, right,
we're in the air, right.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I imagine you were just on the edge of a cliff and there was a helicopter below.
I don't know what I was picturing.
I was picturing the helicopter stationary, about to take off, and then I, three, two,
one, jump up as it's taking off.
See, I imagine you're ready to base jump out of the helicopter and jump too high.
I go in the wrong direction.
And then I'm whizzed.
I'm a whizzed man.
Now that's a pretty traumatic way to go.
Yeah, because does that mean you think you're base jumping the whole time you're dead?
No, because you base jumped, and that was a good base jump,
and then you continue with your day-to-day life.
Yeah.
Or do I, it depends how trapped I become.
Am I just a screaming ribbons of people?
Well, yeah, because all of the ghosts we see in the movie look like how they die.
So you would be nothing.
Yeah, you would be bits of viscera.
You would be floating chunks.
My little vocal cord being like, yeah, base jumping rules.
I think at that point you'd be aware you're dead.
I don't know, because it would probably happen so quickly.
Yeah, but you can see yourself.
Oh, if I can see myself?
And I look down and it's just like my guts?
I don't remember how I didn't look like this before.
You'd be seeing two different things because eyes in different spots.
Could you be reconstituted in a weird way?
Or many cuts of where the blade would have gone and where you've been eviscerated.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also you wouldn't see that anyway because you'd be like, I'm not dead.
I'm based.
I'm based.
I'm killing it out here.
What?
And also why would you stick around?
Because do you need to tell a little boy something?
Yeah.
If Hayley Joel has a little boy listen to you for...
Bruce Willis knows that he got shot.
Yeah.
He just thinks he survived.
Maybe that's what I think.
Whoa, it's crazy I jumped into those helicopter blades.
Just got a bit of the head, you know.
Got a bit of hair got.
I pull off my scalp because I'm sliced lengthways the whole way down.
Wow, it's crazy that my skull was so thick it stopped the helicopter blade, I reckon.
Also, it's funny because in this scenario,
I jumped up.
An impossible thing to do.
Do I still think I'm base jumping towards space?
Oh, base jumping.
I thought it was space jumping.
Oh, my bad.
I was trying to reach the moon.
I'm guts now.
What would my unfinished business be? I guess I never did base jump
well okay well Haley Joel Osment is gonna take my viscera up in a plane and kick it out I I I
well based on based on what we see every murder victim will be a ghost yeah yeah which means that
a lot of the things you'd pretty much if you get the six so basically I guess if I get the six
cents power I'm like the only way I'm going to know peace
is if I become a detective.
That is true.
Private eye, I reckon.
Like if somebody comes up
and starts hassling you.
You're like,
brother, you've been murdered.
Yeah.
Let's get to the bottom of this.
Do you have to,
like,
how do you,
do you have to find out
how they were murdered
or is just telling them
they were murdered enough?
Well, they need closure,
it seems.
Because Misha Barton maybe, um, is pretty much trying to protect her sister.
Yeah.
But also spread the truth.
Wish I could remember anything about the person that shot themselves with a shotgun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just remember it looked yuck.
Yeah, oh, yeah, I can imagine.
It's annoying.
Yeah, they're seeking his help.
So the dead people are seeking his help to resolve unfinished business.
Yeah, okay.
So I think it's a way with Bruce Willis, maybe seeking out Cole,
because his unfinished business is reconciling with his wife.
Yeah.
And helping her move on.
But he doesn't really know that, but he's just drawn to that little boy to help.
His unfinished business is also that he thinks he failed Vincent, right?
Yeah, so if he helps Charliealey Joel, then he'll-
He's like, you are baby Vincent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then he'll have-
That's his unfinished-
Well, do you reckon you could help ghosts with their unfinished business?
How much time is this taking out of your regular day?
Well, am I a little boy or am I me?
You're you now.
Oh, yeah.
I could do one a day, I reckon.
I reckon, yeah.
Have to call in to work.
Hey, Zaman, I can't come in today.
I'm hoping a dumb ghost-
No, you'd have to schedule it. The ghosts
would just have to wait. Yeah. Sorry, mate.
This service. So once a day. I gotta do
some podcasts. I don't know what's I'm telling you to do.
I reckon 7pm till 10pm.
That's ghost time? That's ghost time.
Hey, Jack, I reckon I could monetize this.
Are you gonna
monetize the six cents?
Okay, so you can talk
to dead people. Sure can. And they have unresolved business.
Most of it is usually like, who killed me?
Yeah, yeah.
Or how did I die or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so can we maybe get case fire?
Basically, we're doing true crime.
Oh, yeah.
Like podcast slash a video thing.
And we're actually like, yeah, he did it.
And there's the proof.
That's true.
And unlike true crime podcasts, we're like,
here's a fucked up thing that happened.
Fuck.
And now let's quickly play the 911 call.
Yeah, exactly.
Isn't that fucked up?
Wow.
Do you reckon this is terrible?
No.
No, I think it's fine.
Let's keep going.
We could be like, hey, we solved it.
We solved the case.
And also, you're listening.
And also, subscribe to our Patreon.
Yeah, yeah yeah yeah
help us get more money
so we can play
with your help
we can find more murderers
yeah with your help
we can pay for
plane tickets
to help our ghosts
overseas ghosts
yeah that's true
overseas ghosts
you can finally find out
who killed your Italian uncle
yeah
do you think if I
helped a bunch of ghosts
resolve their shit
go to heaven
yeah
when I went to heaven
alright just stop tracking I'm waiting heaven. When I went to heaven... Alright, just stop
tracking. I'm waiting
for this. When I went to heaven, would I get
special treatment?
So, yeah, I reckon he
would. I would not. Because now you've lived
a pious life in a weird way. Exactly.
I've done good. You've done good.
You've balanced out all your terribleness.
That might be what gets me into heaven.
Yeah, you balance it out.
Yeah, they're like, you talked about popping...
Well, here's your horrible, horrible deeds.
You did talk about popping Christ's nut back into his loincloth,
but you helped this person resolve their death, sir.
But is getting someone punished for a crime an eye for an eye?
Because if that is the case, that is not allowed in the Bible.
Well, that's not on him.
That's on the system.
That's a justice system, baby.
Look, I suspect that heaven, not a lot of guys there yeah pretty quiet yeah yeah yeah yeah and also again it's like it's not really eye for an eye you're helping again unless they're the the
ghosts are spirits of vengeance yeah that's true uh you're helping you know the closure get something
resolved and then you know what happens next isn't your responsibility.
Out of my hands, dude.
You've exposed the truth.
Yeah.
Yeah, you could actually write a book.
Well, I'm thinking I could become a psychic.
You know Medium, the TV series Medium?
Oh, yeah.
What about me?
Patricia Arquette.
What's that?
Patricia Arquette.
And then there's Ghost Whisperer with a part of your five, maybe.
Jennifer.
Love Hewitt?
Yeah. Yeah? That's an awesome name. Yeah, that is good. I, maybe? Jennifer. Love Hewitt? Yeah.
Yeah?
That's an awesome name.
Yeah, that is good.
What if your name was Jackson Love Hewitt?
Well, I'd change it for the show.
Jackson Love Hewitt, Ghost Gettler.
Ghost Settler?
I said Gettler.
I made a Gettle the Ghost.
Canceled after one season.
Ghost Gettler
Well I think the problem
With all of this is
The difference
Like
Jackson interacts with a ghost
We can't see that
We only see Jackson's side of the things
Yeah
Correct
I'm worried the content won't be good
Well yeah but the thing is
So Jackson is like
He's talking to the ghost
Yeah
And then
So we're not filming this
You're right
This is just a man yelling at the wall.
What happened to you?
Huh?
So we'd be there like.
You're dead, by the way.
So it would just be.
How long did it take me to tell him?
I'd be like, okay, we're transcribing or at least like, you know, jotting down notes.
So we know the timeline.
Yeah.
We're knowing what's going on.
And then we're like, okay.
Then we, you know, we are either taking photographs or filming the situation
and the areas or
whatever, and we're getting the evidence, because that's
what you're allowing, right? It's getting the evidence.
And then with that evidence, we're piecing it all together,
and then we just explain
that later. It's a true
crime podcast, but the twist
is, the hook, I'm legitimately
psychic.
But how do we prove that? We don't.
We lie. And which part of the
podcast, which part of the
process are we recording
and releasing? I think it's good to record the bit where I talk
to the ghost. See, I would just, like,
let's just be, like, we're investigative
journalists. Oh, okay. And we are going
through, and we fucking bat a hundred. But do we
get anything, what?
But yeah, well, like, which? Because the ghost doesn't know who killed them a lot of the time. Well, we just bat a hundred. But do we get anything what? But yeah, well like which?
Because the ghost doesn't know who
killed them a lot of
the time.
Well, we just know
they died.
Well, yeah, but
again, if you go into
the Misha Barton one,
maybe, it's revealed
that the mother does
kill that kid, right?
That's true, that's
true.
So again, it's a kind
of like, yeah.
Okay, well let's use
that as an example.
Yeah.
Let's pretend instead
of Cole, Jackson found out about this. Yeah. What's the episode? and it's a kind of like okay well like let's use that as an example yeah let's pretend instead of
call Jackson
found out about this
yeah
what's the episode
yeah
so the episode
would be
because again
does it make the news
like the death
of the girl
probably would be
in the obituaries
maybe
yeah
because again
now it's a bit morbid
we're now like
you know
being ghoulish
and preying on
the tragedy
of a family
so I'm chatting
to this kid.
And it's that mixed with the fact that there's no interesting back information
because you just know that a girl died and that her mom killed her.
It's not like, here's the history of this family.
Do you know that from the ghost?
No.
No, not at all.
I mean, I could probably ask.
Well, that's why you kind of would do the whole thing.
So you'd have to interview the ghost.
Not the ghost.
You'd have to just interview other people
around it
because again
if you're making
a documentary
and if you're making
a documentary
about a murder
of someone
you don't
interview the dead
no no no
that's what I'm saying
that's the only difference
the difference is
because if you remove
the not interviewing
the dead person
or not bringing in
what the dead person does
it is just
my favourite murder
yeah but then you solve the murder.
But how do we guarantee that?
Because the ghost doesn't have any.
We don't show those ones.
Okay, all right.
It's media.
We obscure the truth a little.
That's funny that there's a bevy of ghosts that I just haven't fixed.
We can fix them.
But again, it's like, well, is that an interesting story?
Yeah, well.
Well, no, but we'll help them out anyway.
I think it's funny to be like, all right, we're going to monetize this,
but the thing we're not monetizing is the only thing in this that makes us different.
But then the other thing, we're worse at than other people.
Why are we worse at it?
You think we're good investigative journalists?
I guess we will.
Better than journalists?
We've got to get a cheat sheet.
No, but we've got a cheat sheet that we're not using
because we're not using that content.
We are using it. It's just you have to kind of use it
in context. You don't be like, I talk to
ghosts and the ghosts said this.
I think it's better to do that.
Well, that's another way of trying to monetize
it, which is what's become the episode.
I think you... How are you going to monetize?
How are you, how are you, I can talk to ghosts.
How are you monetizing him talking to ghosts and letting everyone
know he talks to ghosts without this becoming a shit show?
I talk to ghosts. I say,
what's up, dude? You died from eating
crab wrong or whatever? Hey,
there's a guy here. You can't see him, but I can.
He choked on a crab and he wants to
sue the seafood. I think that I'm
just being, I think I'm just like, okay.
So cold readings and stuff like that, people can do.
Yeah.
It's not that hard.
Jackson, on the other hand, isn't doing cold readings.
It's just, so then you'd be like, hey, if someone in your family or someone you know.
Yeah.
Basically, I just make him a sidekick.
Yeah, but the trouble with that is that I don't get to pick who I talk to.
No, I know. him a psychic. Yeah, but the trouble with that is that I don't get to pick who I talk to. No, I know.
It doesn't matter because if someone comes in,
pretty much you pitch it as a psychic where you check with Jackson
if your family's at peace.
And if they're not at peace, Jackson can fix it.
But if they are at peace, that's good.
And they still pay either way.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Because if someone's like...
But they all come to Jackson, though.
No, no, no.
And then?
Okay, so...
No, but I get it. You're i get it okay say i'm misha
barton's baby's dad okay and i'm like hey my daughter i want to check my daughter's at peace
yeah nice then i would take jackson to my house and then jackson's like oh i'm gonna look around
for the guy yeah okay okay and then if you're like they're at peace They're not here But then if they are there
You're like
Dude
Dude your daughter's still sick
This is bad
Yeah
Well do they
But do
Do they just hang around
The environment
They died in
They seem to
Or whatever
Or like with Bruce Willis
Well Bruce Willis only goes
They're drawn
Yeah
But he's only
He only goes from his house
To his work maybe
But they are drawn
To Hayley Joel Osment
they know he can see them and they come to him and they're like
help me
because doesn't Hayley Joel see Misha Barton maybe
when he's just like in bed
and then there's like a tent or whatever
and then she opens it
that's in Hayley Joel's bedroom
so the ghosts will be coming to you
and then we've got to go to that house
that's right and then they go to that place
I think it's in the newspaper maybe because they're like oh that's the girl that died coming to you. And then we've got to go to that house. That's right. And then they go to that place because of a,
I think it's in the newspaper maybe.
Yeah, okay.
Because they're like, oh, that's the girl that died.
That's the girl that we need to go investigate.
We've come back to the issue of where are ghosts?
Yeah, where are ghosts?
Because if ghosts are in the house.
And also she can teleport her whole like tent.
That's a projection.
Is that a ghost tent?
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Can the ghosts...
Does that mean you can kill a tent?
You can kill...
Yeah, a tent can go to heaven.
If I kill a guy in a tent...
That tent goes to heaven.
That tent goes to heaven.
The tent can come back as a ghost with a guy in it.
Because all the ghosts have clothes...
Because the cyclist...
Yeah.
That's a ghost bike.
The cyclist and ghost Lycra.
He's wearing a full-on helmet, Lycra, and riding his bike. That's a full-on ghost outfit. The cyclist and ghost Lycra. He's wearing a full on helmet, Lycra, and riding his
bike. That's a full on ghost outfit.
Yeah. It's weird that it...
Because you could kill a guy in a tent.
Guy in the tent could come back. Easy. Not even hard.
Yeah, yeah. He's not expecting it. He's sleeping.
Trident.
No, you just open the flap, grenade
in, zip back up.
Yeah.
But you kill a guy in a house, the house doesn't come back.
But the house, the old floor that was slightly lower or higher does.
How big a dwelling before it comes?
Ghost floor.
I'm haunted by a floor.
Did you know that back in 1973, the floor was up
to here?
It was a high house.
I look to my right and I see a bit of hardwood floor
coming in my head.
It's just a ghost floor.
Don't worry, guys.
There's no guy associated with it?
Not that I can find.
They killed this fucking floor.
I think that you're just open with it
because the type of people you attract if people
don't believe you that's fine you might get interviewed
on 60 minutes being like you're exploiting
this family
well some
in a way
that'll be stressful
for you but you'll know I was gonna say that you are
actually helping people but I guess if you say
well some
you're off in the wings like, well, we're done.
Well, that was
a good run for... How much money did we make
so far? Oh, 60 bucks?
Yeah, that's alright.
It's just tricky because
I don't have heaps of say
in what ghosts I talk to.
Could you... I know, because as
JD, you pointed out, we are not
journalists. Could we team up with, say, either a journalist or a private eye?
Kind of like pushing daisies in a way where, sure, you have the power to talk to the dead or the dead that come to you.
And then we need like a – is it Chi McBride kind of person who comes and is like, hey, help me with this case.
That's true.
I could do that.
I mean that happens.
I mean I don't think it happens today.
That happens in Medium, the TV show. And do that. I mean, that happens. I mean, I don't think it happens today. Or medium. That happens in medium.
And maybe ghost whisperer, we think.
Sometimes cops go to, when they're
really desperate, they go to mediums.
I could do that.
In some cases,
they go to an exorcist for some reason.
Yeah, that's strange.
In some cases, someone will randomly
just be like, I think I spoke to this
ghost, and they just pick a random person
that was like, they did it, and then suddenly,
now they've got to go to court to say that,
why is this person slandering me?
On a ghost testimony, I'm in court.
I've got to say, I don't think the justice system is doing awesome.
Well, you'd have to team up with some kind regardless of how you
want to do it you're gonna have to team up because like with some kind of police force because
unlike what the sixth sense leads you to believe so say the misha barton maybe yeah tape like yeah
that tapes evidence but if it's any other ghost where it's like here's the bullet that killed me
yeah you pick it up it's fucked you're going to jail. You pick it up. It's fucked. You're going to jail for murder. You pick it up.
Here it is, officer.
The ghost told me where it was.
Okay, so you're definitely under arrest
for the murder of this person.
I wouldn't be murdered.
I mean, you'd be under, like...
Under suspicion.
You'd be under suspicion.
And then when I'm sitting there...
It'd be kind of very simple.
You'd be suspect number one.
Are you like a firefighter
who keeps lighting their own fires?
No, I just can see ghosts
Because I was born wrong
Came out the pussy bad
Yeah
I don't know
I guess yeah
If you are
Like doing it
Yeah like
For no real reason
You're sort of doing it
And being like
Hey cops or whatever
Maybe look here
Etc etc
It's like yeah
Kind of like in that
TV show that I fondly remember
Called Early Edition
Oh yes Hardly anyone else remembers Is that about news A dog brings A cat It's like, yeah, kind of like in that TV show that I fondly remember called Early Edition. Oh, yeah.
Hardly anyone else remembers.
Is that about news?
A dog brings.
A cat.
An orange cat brings.
I believe it is Coach Taylor.
Yeah, yeah.
Friday Night Lights.
He brings him tomorrow's newspaper today.
And then he goes there and he solves a crime.
That's so awesome.
And so he prevents things that happen.
And then at some point a cop's like, why are you always fucking here?
What's going on?
Yeah.
Is the cat causing the crimes?
No, the cat's bringing the newspapers.
I think the cat's involved.
Well, maybe what I could do.
Well, the thing is,
if that's the situation there, though,
it's like the crimes already happened
and there's clearly like this chance.
There's no way you could be there any way,
because they'd be like, well, we know the time of death, and, you know, we have you on CCTV somewhere else,
or whatever it might be.
But you have the ball.
There you are, like, twitching and like, hey, I'm playing Starfield or whatever.
It's still bad.
This game's not very fun, hey.
So, you know, there'd be evidence where, like, well, he can't be there.
Yeah.
He knows what's going on.
And I'm like, are you being forthcoming and being like, I'll talk to the ghost.
Well, I think that would in a way help me.
Yeah.
Because the cops already sometimes go to mediums.
So there's precedent if I'm like, brother, the spirits, they speak to my brain.
I think as long as you do those arm movements, you'll be fine.
The spirits, the ghosts of the realm, they come into my mouth and ears and eyes.
There's dead cunts everywhere.
So I just, yeah, I think you're better off saying that because there are people out there that just do believe in this bullshit.
Well, maybe what I could do instead is just find houses that people are already like, there's a ghost in my house.
Yeah.
And then, because I know ghosts are real.
So then you go there and you're like,
Yep.
Yeah, there is.
Call the Warrens, maybe?
I don't know.
I can't exorcise the ghost, but I can confirm a haunting.
I can talk to it, but if it's mean, it will frighten me.
Can you confirm?
I mean, because again, it's like they come to you
and then I guess, yeah, they are attached to us.
Because if somebody's like,
you've got to accept,
in this world,
there are ghosts.
And if somebody's like,
books are knocked off the shelf,
my TV turns on,
somebody rubs my face
while I sleep or whatever,
then I go there
and I see the ghost doing that.
Yeah.
I can be like,
yeah,
you're right.
Anyway,
50 bucks.
Because you can, yeah Yeah Well because you can
Yeah well you can talk to the ghost
Yeah
And
In this
The ghosts that hang around
All of them don't know they're dead?
I think they just all have
Unfinished business
Yeah
And probably varying degrees
Of understanding of how dead they are
Yeah
So at least you can have a conversation
And be like
What do you want?
And how
Like one thing with the sixth sense
Like how deep does the unfinished business have to be
before it counts as unfinished business?
Someone dies taking a shit,
is having an unwiped arsehole,
is that unfinished business?
I'm sure the undertaker would wipe you.
That's so funny.
You're just waiting around for the brief,
maybe two or three days
whilst you're in the funeral home.
Come on, Come on.
Wipe me.
Wipe me.
Clean me up.
Oh,
thank God.
That's funny that an,
uh,
undertaker.
Or be a mortician.
Yeah.
Whatever it is.
They have to wipe the ass of a dead person.
They gotta clean everything.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
They gotta fill you up with different fluids.
Yeah.
Take all the other fluids out.
That was my unfinished business.
Too many fluids.
Brother, that just happens.
That's true.
My unfinished business is that I have a chat myself
and then when I die I shit myself and I go to heaven.
Straight away.
I was a ghost for about a millisecond.
No one said, oh!
Come on, sphincter, loosen!
Loosen!
What about, I don't know
You just
What about this
You're eating the gobstopper
Yeah
You
Down
You choke
You die
You didn't eat the gobstopper
Gobstopper
Yeah
Got lodged
Yeah
Did you eat that gobstopper
Cause it got lodged in your throat
Yeah
Is that enough
Are you not gonna go to heaven
Until somebody goes
On your throat And sends the gobstopper Are you not going to go to heaven until somebody goes on your throat
and sends the gobstopper down?
Well, you're dead, right?
Yeah.
Presumably again.
The mortician takes care of this.
Oh yeah, that's true.
That would be bad
if I was looking at
like my great aunt
and I'm like,
there's a gobstopper.
It's an open casket
and there's this giant gobstopper
in your throat.
What the hell?
That's the thing that killed her.
You should definitely
have removed that.
Take it out.
This is a bad funeral home.
Yeah, what's the degree of...
Hey, for me, six cents and that's easy to fix.
Yeah.
There you go.
You're fine.
Yeah.
All right.
What about...
Well, actually, let's explore that situation.
Yeah.
Ghost comes to me.
Ghost has a big gobstopper stuck in his throat.
Help, I'm one of the characters in the film Jawbreaker.
Yeah.
Okay.
I was the one who got put in the car boot.
I've never seen it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They put a golf stopper in my mouth and they put duct tape
and that was to kind of like gag me,
but then I accidentally swallowed the whole thing.
And then I woke up, they stopped and they opened the boot
as a funny prank and I'm dead.
That's really, there's a whole...
But don't worry, they pinned the crime on Marilyn Manson.
Ew, that guy sucks.
Yeah.
Well, okay, but you're a ghost
and you're like, my unfinished business, I haven't
swallowed this gobstopper. Yes. Can you swallow
a gobstopper as a ghost? My question
there for ghost is, well, do you want
the gobstopper removed? Yeah. Or do you
want to finish the gobstopper?
If they, like, finish the gobstopper,
I think you might be
fucked. Enjoy
your turn now.
Sorry, buddy.
As a ghost, do you have a tongue?
Can you reach in?
Swallow?
Or do I have to dig them up and then push the gobstopper down?
Because they're coming to you as a ghost, can I just ghost shove?
Yeah.
Make them swallow their throat a little bit. Yeah, I don't know.
I just don't think that's enough to keep you attached.
I think it is like injustice.
True, true, true.
It seems to be.
Or like maybe, I'm just thinking of Misha Barton.
It's like my mom killed me.
She's getting sympathy and my dad is distraught and I'm worried about my sister.
So there's a couple of things there that they clearly are like, well, shit's going down.
And so is the attachment there to be like, I've got to protect sister?
Is the attachment there like dad's sad and he thinks that – but he doesn't realize that he's married a monster.
Yeah.
Or is it that like mom killed me and she needs to be punished?
Or a combination of all three.
What is it holding her? Is it all
three? Is it one particular one?
Because a guy who gets hit by
a cyclist, like the cyclist gets hit,
he doesn't instantly go away.
He is a cyclist for a bit.
Does he get back
up and then just ride off?
Yeah, they see him cycle past the window
of the car. Where's. Weird. Where's he
going? Where's he going? Oh, is it like
when he arrives at his destination, he's like, I finally
arrived at his destination. Maybe he's in the middle of like a ride,
yeah, finishing a ride, I guess.
Yeah, I suppose. But maybe, well, maybe
that's the thing, that there are little... What about that guy
that died because he suffocated between
two voluptuous breasts? Yeah, okay.
Does he not go to heaven until he comes?
Do I have to jerk this ghost off?
Or do you have to get voluptuous breasts
and put them in his face until he comes?
Yeah, I don't know.
That's going to be hard to convince.
Or a very easy job for those sex workers.
Like, hey, just go here.
I know to you it doesn't look like there's a guy.
This is doing nothing for me.
You could wear one of them aprons with the fake titties. They're quite voluptuous. It doesn't look like there's a guy. This is doing nothing for me. I wouldn't even be in the room.
You could wear one of them aprons with the fake titties.
They're quite voluptuous.
Yeah.
And then get him to jerk himself off.
I didn't have enough money to hire anyone, but this is just as good.
Yeah.
If you close your eyes.
Just holding the ghost here.
You're whacking it, dude.
Let me know when you've come.
He might go to heaven just to get out of this situation.
Oh, it worked!
Wow, that was easy.
You're still there.
I'm actually going now.
You can leave.
Mine's taking longer than normal.
Yeah, just take your apron and get out of here.
Okay, it doesn't look like you've come to me, but...
Do you want me to leave the apron?
If you want to finish off or whatever?
Oh, I'm going!
I'm in heaven now!
I'm fading away!
Don't look like it, but you're alright.
Whatever, guy.
It seems there's violent deaths and deaths
that you're attached to.
If you got six cents, would you feel
sort of happy knowing that
heaven is on the cards?
Or there's some kind of afterlife?
Yeah, I don't know.
Because it's a tricky one because it doesn't necessarily prove the existence of a pleasant afterlife.
It just proves that if you die with unfinished business...
You're sticking around.
Yeah, and you don't know your death.
I guess if you get six cents, you're not going to stick around when you die also.
Because you'll know that you're a ghost because you know about
ghosts. Would you though?
By the way, Bruce Willis is named Malcolm.
Malcolm!
Like a dead bird. I mean
a live bird, but the bird of death, crows.
Oh!
What? Malcolm Crow. Crow being
the bird of death often.
It lives in graveyards sometimes.
It eats corpse.
It picked out Odin's sometimes. Yeah. It eats corpse. Yeah.
Because he is like... Peck that Odin's eyes.
Yeah.
Here's what I keep thinking.
Something you eat
when you eat shit?
Eat crow?
Go eat crow?
No, that's what you like.
Oh, you're fucked up?
It's like you've got a...
You've become humbled.
You're like,
oh, I'll eat crow and that.
I thought I was right.
I'm wrong.
I'll eat crow.
Is it like you'll eat crow pie?
No, you're thinking
of 4 and 20 blackbirds
Baked in a pie
Yeah I knew about that
Yeah
I knew about that
Yeah yeah
I knew about the blackbirds
Baked in a pie
I'm across the pie
Alright
Yeah yeah
Here's what I keep thinking
Drop the pie
So
The ghosts
You don't see heaven
In the sixth sense
No
Right
But the ghosts just go
Yeah
Now I've not
For me it's not confirmed Whether they become Part of the right but the ghosts just go yeah now i've not got for me it's not confirmed
whether they become part of the infinite whatever or they just go they just go and fade yeah but i
know i can still live as a ghost would you try and set up unfinished business to live an immortal
life well that's tricky because the ghosts aren't happy in their immortal life. No.
Well, Bruce Willis.
No, Bruce Willis is deeply unhappy by it.
Yeah.
But you just know you'll get to stick around.
And no one will interact with you. Yeah.
You get to see the world, I guess.
No, but you're doing your business that's unfinished.
That's true.
You're going to see it in snippets as well.
You can't be like,
well, I've got unfinished business.
Time to catch up on all my TV shows.
It also feels like that you kind of lose agency.
100%.
And it seems to be you're drawn to this little boy
to help fix your problems.
I'm just trying to think of what unfinished business
could entertain me for eternity.
Like, what if I go to Disneyland?
And your dream is my unfinished business is- I'm dream is I'm here to do, I will do every
ride at Disneyland. Throughout
until the end
of time. Yeah, exactly.
Oh no! And then I die
on Space Mountain.
Yeah.
And then I just get to hang out at Disneyland for eternity.
Yeah, because you're unfinished businesses,
you've got to go on every single ride.
And then I just don't go on every single ride.
I pick a bad one and I never do it.
No, but you can't not go on a...
Because as a ghost, you are trying to...
It seems like you don't have the agency to choose.
You don't want to do it.
It seems like, yeah, you want to move on.
You're compelled to figure it out.
I go on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride and go to hell.
Yeah.
You're like, oh, seeing Johnny Depp was the last thing I needed to do. That's all I needed. Animatronic Johnny Depp sent me to heaven yeah and you're like oh damn it seeing johnny depp was the last thing animatronic johnny depp sent me to heaven oh you're a real pirate now yeah because again
you you only see what you yeah the ghosts always say they only see what they want to see or like
that's what um hayley joel says okay so you know it's like you only see what you want to see so
you'll only be seeing the rides that you want to see, right? Yeah. And then the moment you go on them.
Yeah, off you go.
Johnny Depp will say the rum's gone and then you'll be gone.
I'll be gone.
Hayley would be like, I'm going to Disneyland.
It's crazy.
There's no ghosts here.
It's very easy for them to finish this unfinished business.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Monetizing the six cents, to take it back to that, seems pretty tricky.
But then also, I guess the only real thing you can get from this is personal satisfaction
of, I'm a good person.
I've helped some people who need to move on.
Clearly there's something, I'm
a special little boy, there's something about me that
these ghosts are drawn to, and I guess
with this great power comes
great responsibility, and I've got
to help them move on and achieve
whatever goal they have.
I guess it's become a
life coach, but it's a death coach.
And it's a forever job you can't quit.
True.
Yeah, that is annoying.
Could I become a life coach?
Okay, well, let's hear it.
Because I'm a death coach,
and I'm basically helping these people move on and achieve their goals.
But I then transfer that into what people like to be like-
Those are transferable skills.
I've had experience.
I mean, maybe I wouldn't say this,
because, again, you sound like maybe a crazy person.
But because I have experience helping. I mean, maybe I wouldn't say this because, again, you sound like maybe a crazy person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But because I have experience helping people achieve their, literally, their lifelong desire,
their tick off that bucket list, by enough times, you'd be like, there are obvious common
themes here that people want to do and achieve.
So having that, you then, yeah, transfer those skills.
And you've been doing it since childhood.
Exactly.
I'm a virtuoso at this.
It's crazy that most people, you know,
these are the biggest regrets people have in life.
You list them off.
And you can go really specific to the point everyone's like,
huh, that's very specific.
Yeah.
It's funny if you're like, these are the things people want in life.
These are their main goals.
Figure out who killed them.
Make mom stop killing my sister yeah this is what every
single person wants in this life yeah like you could have enough of that because i'm assuming
again depending what holds these ghosts these earthly realms if it's not always like you know
guilty conscience and uh you know who killed me and yeah a violent death if it's just like
little things here and there like i want to tell my loved one, like, you know, I'm moving on.
Or like, I didn't tell them about this.
Or in the ghost whisperer, or like.
As a life coach being like, look,
the one big regret when people died is that they didn't get to tell their
loved ones that they're moving on to a better place.
Yes.
Yeah.
So you're just going to want to build up to that.
Maybe tell them every day.
Every day.
Or I'm just getting,
because it's either in ghostperer or it's Medium,
one of the two.
It's kind of like,
oh, there's like a thing that they,
you know,
oh, I've got like,
oh, the deed is over there and it's buried under whatever.
Oh yeah, that's a classic.
There's gold in the mantelpiece
or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Classic one of those kind of things.
Yeah, there's gold in the mantelpiece.
So is it just like,
be more organized?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, pretty much.
Make sure you don't die
and not tell people where your fortune is buried
yeah yeah yeah
live life like if you were to die
don't fuck over the people around you
well I mean that's good advice
are there goals that a ghost could have
that are unachievable
like surely there will be goals
I want to finger the president
bring me back from the dead
my only regret is that I didn't live forever.
Those are the two extremes
of things that cannot be achieved. Fingering
the president, coming back from the death.
From the death.
What do you tell a ghost that comes to you and they're like
I want to finger the president.
Brother, that ain't gonna happen.
No, no, no. You're giving up too soon.
What kind of president?
A president of a local football club?
I reckon we could do this.
Can a ghost even finger?
I mean, it could put itself inside something.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, in many ways, when a ghost walks through you, they've fingered your whole body.
You might be getting fingered by a ghost right now.
You wouldn't know it.
Yeah.
Just can't feel it, which sucks.
It would be awesome if you could.
It would be cool.
It sucks for everyone involved.
Yeah, it would be cool.
The ghost's furious. They're not reacting. They're not even giving you could. Sucks for everyone involved. The ghost's furious.
They're not reacting.
They're not even giving any feedback.
God, you're stupid.
You're fucked.
I think it would just,
it would wreck your life,
being sixth sense.
Yeah.
At first I came in here coming in hot
and I was like,
it'll be chill between the hours of 6 and 9pm every day.
That's ghost time.
But then it's a job you can't quit.
Yeah.
It would be traumatic all the time.
Absolutely.
A lot of the time it would be, like, annoying.
It's just a lot of your day.
It's not a simple thing to solve a murder.
And the skills you get from that,
or, like, talking to a ghost,
aren't necessarily directly transferable.
So, like, trying to make it into content creation,
you just end up still back behind all of the true crime
podcasts because even though you are talking to the ghost
it's hard to say
sometimes the ghost doesn't know how they die
they have no idea who killed them and they're like
figure it out and you're like well now I'm a detective
that's not what I wanted out of my life
even like a life coach, like it will be tricky to talk
to a ghost and then figure out how to
sell yourself as a good life coach
you'll know the regrets
most ghosts have. Yeah, because if you're
talking to the dead and it's
not just like, oh, why they're here
in terms of like, oh, I want to get
revenge on someone. You might be like, hey,
while we're here, let's just tell me about your life.
Yeah, that's true. You're interviewing a lot of people.
You are talking to, by and large, a lot of people and you're like,
hey, buddy, you're dead. Is there anything
you kind of either wish you did or wish, you know, those kind of
things. But that also requires introspection from
the dead. Yeah, that's true. And they might not have that.
And then also that means that your life coach has
one thing, which is, hey, come to me and
I'll tell you what the top three things do the
general public regret when they die. It's a way of spinning
that. You can transfer
and make that do something. But that's
your whole life. But again, you don't get a choice anymore.
Exactly, right? But this is like when,
because you're,
how old is Hayley when he sees everybody?
Nine.
So again, you're right.
Like, unfortunately,
it kind of sets yourself up
for this is now your job.
This is your career
and this is what you're,
you're stuck with it, right?
Because there's another way
where you just shut it all down.
Yeah.
And you're like,
I'm just going to get spooked every now and then.
I would learn to not be scared of ghosts.
Yeah.
And then,
well, that's what Cole does in the movie.
Yeah.
Smart.
Very.
But then it's that kind of thing of like, well, you know, isn't it either your moral
obligation to help these ghosts?
And also something we have not even discussed in this.
Yeah.
Cole doesn't know Malcolm's dead at first, which means you could meet people and not
realize they're a ghost.
Yeah, so he doesn't know he's dead?
Cole doesn't know that Malcolm's dead, at least not at first.
At least.
Well, the movie never.
Yeah.
Because he tells, because the whole thing is like, I see dead people.
Yeah.
He wouldn't have to tell Malcolm that if Malcolm knew he was dead.
Yeah.
Like Malcolm was dead.
Well, yeah, but Malcolm doesn't know that he's dead.
Yeah, but does Cole know that Malcolm doesn't know that Malcolm is dead?
This is what I'm saying in the start of the episode.
Again, maybe because like he sees, maybe he sees the gunshot that, you know, Malcolm doesn't know that Malcolm doesn't know. This is what I'm saying in the start of the episode. Maybe because he sees
the gunshot that
Malcolm does. It's rude that he never says anything.
But then the ghost only sees
and presumably hears what he wants to hear.
Ghosts are so annoying.
Right? Because you're like, you're dead. Interesting.
You would say such a thing. Okay, so how does that make you
feel about your mother? You're dead, cunt.
You're dead, cunt. Oh, so like, I see dead
people like you. Like you. Go to like, I see dead people like you.
Like you.
Go to heaven.
You see dead people, do you?
Interesting.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I'm going to shut that out.
I'm calling the Ghostbusters.
Suck them all up, Bill.
Dan.
Get that fucking ghost jail.
Put them all in there.
Fuck them.
Shut up.
Like, again, because initially I'm like look maybe we try and
be helpful
yeah
great power
great responsibility
help these motherfuckers out
but oh my god
day in day out
when do I get a
and also it sounds like
it starts from child
birth I was gonna say
which
I guess
yeah I guess
all these ghosts
hanging around the feet
not feet
infant
yeah yeah
hanging around a baby
baby doesn't know
how to deal with that
baby like
you're gonna grow up wrong
yeah
you're gonna grow up real
everyone's gonna think
yeah well again
like what Tony Collette does
take you to see a child
absolutely
and then it turns out
that psychologist
is a ghost
is also a ghost
also what if
your mum was dead
you don't know
you don't know
you could be raised by ghosts
unless you do know
but then
yeah I don't know
I'm going to a doctor.
I'm saying, hey, the part of the human brain that sees ghosts.
Get rid of it.
Get rid of it.
Chop it out, buddy.
Hi, GP, general doctor.
No, general practitioner.
Do you still do lobotomies?
Hello, Mr. Hardware Store owner.
Give me one of your finest ice picks.
Thank you.
Looking at a brain, trying to
figure out which bit's relevant to ghosts.
Ice pick and a hammer.
This is probably right.
I'll just put it up
there.
Tap, tap, tap. And then if you die
doing that, which you probably would.
You wouldn't know.
You'd just be a ghost. You'd find another little boy to bother.
Well then your unfinished business is that you see ghosts.
I need to not see ghosts.
Or was your unfinished business like cosmically you went to help ghosts,
and now you're dead and having to like ghost help everybody.
And then you're stuck.
It sounds frankly awful.
Yeah, it sounds fucked up.
And what we don't see after the Sixth Sense credits roll is that Cole's life fucking sucks forever.
Yeah, that's true.
That little boy will only know suffering.
If you go to a deserted island,
they only help like crows,
like the ghosts of dead birds.
Yeah, and plane crash victims.
And fucking boats.
Go to the moon.
No one's died on the moon. No one's died on the moon. Shockingly. Yeah, not yet anyway. That's bad. You're sitting there to the moon no one's died on the moon
shockingly
yeah
not yet anyway
that's bad
you're sitting there
on the moon
you've just lived there
the whole time
don't worry about it
spaceship lands
astronaut comes out
falls over
dies
ghost gets up
are you kidding me
oh my god
Kong you're dead
you died on the moon
you're here
if that was your
unfinished business
surely that's
alright
you just step over
the ghost
into his rocket
close behind you
start programming
further
I've got to find
somewhere where
there's no fucking ghost
yeah
I'd be sitting on Mars
like Dr. Manhattan
I'm sick of this world
I tire of these ghosts
I am done
and on that note
I've been Joel I've been that note I've been Joel
I've been Jackson
and I've been Joel
don't see ghosts
don't see ghosts
yeah yeah
hey uh
here's my secret
I don't see ghosts
yeah I don't see dead people
you think I see
do you see I saw a ghost
yeah that's my thought
no I just
yeah I don't
I see dead people
and I fucking hate it
yeah
Kelly Joel Osmond's life
is gonna go real bad
and that's
I guess that's something
to think about
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