Plumbing the Death Star - How Would You Handle Having the 6th Sense from the Sixth Sense?

Episode Date: November 19, 2023

We see dead people and it’s making us angry! Go away ghosts before we start taking medication to stop seeing you! Zammit proposes a new kind of heaven, Jackson puts forward his new hit TV series ‘...The Ghost Gettler’ and JD doesn’t think you’ll guess the right Wahlberg. So listen in as we try and figure out a way to monetise seeing the dead, wonder how many ghosts are in any given space and do our best to loophole immortality. We might not know a lot about anything, but we do know that we’re chockers full of ghosts and that Jesus was a tradie.Links to everything in our linktr.ee including our terrible merch, social media garbage and where to become a subscriber to Bad Brain Boys+ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Go back to school with Rogers and get Canada's fastest and most reliable internet. Perfect for streaming lectures all day or binging TV shows all night. Save up to $20 per month on Rogers internet. Visit rogers.com for details. We got you. Rogers. You're listening to the Sandspans Network. Hey everyone. Come in. Welcome to this week's episode of Plumbing the Death Star. I'm Joe. You're listening to the Sandspans Network. Oh no, ghosts.
Starting point is 00:00:53 I can see them every time I look at them. Cheers to a good episode. Don't do that. What if it's bad? No, you've guaranteed it'll be a good episode. All right, so we're Hayley, Joe, Osman. Yes. And we're like...
Starting point is 00:01:08 Me and Zama are halfway there. Well, one third there. Yeah. Joel and Joe. I get it. Joe! Who the fuck's Joe? Joe and Joe.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Joe Zama and Joe Dusha. Right? And I'm Jason. Joe, Joe, and Jason. Yeah, I know. This is an alternate reality episode. No, yeah. So Haley Joel Osment.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Now, he's born with the sixth sense. The sixth sense, of course, being the ability to perceive the dead, i.e. ghosts. See ghosts, talk to them. And the big problem with the ghosts is they don't even know that they're dead. Dumbest cunts in the spiritual realm. Come on, dickhead. I think if I knew that they were,
Starting point is 00:01:49 if I met a ghost, I would be just angry that he didn't know that he was dead. What do you mean you don't fucking know you're dead, you stupid idiot? You've got the wounds, I mean, I guess, because I'm imagining you don't.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Look, do you want me to give you a quick rundown of the sixth sense so you can maybe, maybe this will make you slightly less frustrated? Okay, please. I mean, to answer the question that you just posed there, in the Sixth Sense, ghosts only see what they want to see, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bruce Willis, spoilers, whom is dead.
Starting point is 00:02:17 He got shot by a guy called Vincent, played by a Wahlberg, but not the one you're thinking of. Unless you're thinking of Donnie, in which case it is the one you're thinking of. Whoa. So Bruce Willis. Maybe Simon has the sixth sense. I can't remember Bruce Willis' name, but I can remember Vincent,
Starting point is 00:02:33 played by Donnie Wahlberg, who is only in a couple of scenes. Yeah, yeah. He breaks into Bruce Willis' house, and he's like, hey. You didn't fix me. You fucked me up more. Bang, bang.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Oh, no. Bruce Willis and shoots himself. Yeah. His wife's sad. Months later. Not Vincent. Okay. Well, presumably Vincent's wife if he had a wife.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Yeah, we're not sure. We don't know if he's still out. Anyway. Fair enough. After the shooting, Bruce Willis' wife, very distant. Yeah. And then Bruce Willis, who is a psychiatrist or psychologist. I can't remember which one. Yeah. Does he give Haley Joel Osment medication psychiatrist or psychologist. I can't remember which one.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Does he give Haley Joel Osment medication for the ghosts? I can't remember. I don't think so. I don't know if there is a medication. Well, he thinks he's schizophrenic at first, so there's definitely medication for that. Anyway, so he starts seeing Cole, who is Haley Joel Osment. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And he's like, fuck, you remind me of Vincent, that guy whom shot me. I'm going to try really hard to fix you and also I'm going to hyper fixate on this case. That's a crazy thing to say to a little boy. Well, he didn't say that to him. He was just thinking it. Okay, fair enough. And Cole's like,
Starting point is 00:03:36 hey, brother, I haven't told anyone this, but I freaking see fucking dead people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice. And then Bruce Willis is like, no, you don't. You just have schizophrenia. Yeah. I'm nice. And then Bruce Willis is like, no, you don't. You just have schizophrenia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:46 And then he goes back and he listens to a tape of Vincent, and Vincent's like, I can hear a man talking in Spanish. And then he realizes, oh, shit, Cole and Vincent, these two bitches can hear ghosts and see them. Whoa! And then they figure out, I can't remember how. Yeah. Can't remember how, but they figure out that ghosts simply just need to be either listened to and understood and guided out of the earth.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And then they go to heaven or hell. Yeah, because usually you see a couple of ghosts. There's a cyclist that gets hit. He dies and he just chuffs off. He just rides on past and he seems to have lived a life, and he doesn't need to be listened to. He's like, I got it. I figured it out now. My lesson was,
Starting point is 00:04:29 probably shouldn't have been hit by that truck. I want to say Misha Barton. Oh, is that the teen girl that spewed up heaps? Yeah, the Munchausen's by proxy girl. Anyway, there's a videotape, and the ghost takes Misha Barton, maybe. Yeah, yeah. The OC. Yeah, yeah. The OC.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Yeah, yeah. But she dies in that too. Oh, my God. Rest in peace. Spoilers for the OC. God gained two angels. God gained the same angel twice. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:58 If you die in a movie, a version of you does go to heaven. But then they die in a TV show, so now two versions. Yeah, and then when eventually they die in real life, that's three. Do they go to separate heavens? No. No, TV heaven and real heaven are the same heaven. Is TV heaven and movie heaven the same? Jesus Christ is there a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Whoa. Sometimes he looked like Willem Dafoe. Sometimes he looked like Jimmy Caviezel. Sometimes he looked, I guess, like the historic Christ. What did the biblical Christ look like? Let's decide here and now. I'm guessing the olive skin. Like a guy from Bethlehem.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Imagine you're a classic Bethlehem guy. That's Christ. He's got curly hair. Was he hot, do you reckon? No. Come on. I think he was fucking hot as hell. He was a carpenter, so that means he would have been in the sun all day.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I actually was watching a thing recently, and carpenter is not an accurate, probably, translation. Oh, no, tell me more. He was probably more like a day laborer. So he was like a tradie. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. So he didn't build tables and shit.
Starting point is 00:06:03 He just, like, helped build houses. He helped build a table Yeah yeah yeah exactly You didn't go to him to get a table He was like part of a crew Putting up a house So Joseph still He was a carpenter? Uh yes
Starting point is 00:06:14 I think Joseph was a carpenter And Christ Could either It's like it could either be translated As son of a carpenter Which he was But also the word they use for carpenter Might mean day laborer as well
Starting point is 00:06:23 So he could just be son of He might not even be a day laborer himself He might not even be a day laborer himself. He could be son of a day laborer. You heard it here first, everyone. Jesus Christ, tradie. Yes! It's easy to imagine him holding a tradie's briefcase or whatever, i.e. a big bag of cooked chicken.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Have you known that phrase, a tradie's briefcase? I was like, yeah, it's the bachelor handbag. Oh, yeah. Maybe I'm confusing that. I think you are a tradie's briefcase? I was going to say, yeah, it's the bachelor handbag. Oh, yeah. Maybe I'm confusing that. I'm just like, a tradie's briefcase. What do you think happens on a construction site? Yeah, and also, like, I can't imagine a tradie holding a chicken. I can imagine them holding a Big M.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Yeah, Big M and a sausage roll. Iced coffee, cigarettes. That's true. Stubbies, like, you know, nice short shorts and, like, explorer socks. Maybe a nut out. Oh, Jesus is wearing robes. He's nuts wearing robes. On the cross, he was in, like, you know, nice short shorts and, like, explorer socks. Maybe a nut out. Oh, Jesus is wearing robes. He's nuts wearing robes. On the cross, he was in, like, I said, a little loincloth.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Yeah. And you were looking at him from, like, the perfect angle to see a nut. You were like, it's sad that the son of God is being nailed to a cross, but it's awesome. I can see his nuts. His nut hanging out. Would you have, you know, with the greatest reverence, sort of popped it back in? I would have used a stick. Using a stick. I'mence, sort of popped it back in. I would have used a stick. You'd have used a stick.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I'm sorry, son of God. Roman legion, give me that spear. I'm going to turn it around. Don't worry, I'm piercing your nuts. I'm doing it with the blunt end. What are you doing? I'm fixing your nuts. Just go to heaven already.
Starting point is 00:07:40 You pop it in, then the other nut pops out the other side. You've got to get two sticks. Yeah. And his dick pops out the top. What's going on in your pants, Jesus Christ? I've got fidgety nuts. I can see. I can tell.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I can see. I don't know, some kind of like a pitchfork or something. Three prongs, maybe. Can you give me a lot of Romans so I can get up there and figure it out? This has gone from subtle to horribly disrespectful please stop touching his nuts okay all right i'm trying to help anyway enjoy heaven or whatever um anyway so people go to yeah so misha barton maybe she's her ghosts guides cole and bruce willis to a videotapepe and the videotape is proof
Starting point is 00:08:25 that she was poisoned by her mother. So then they take that video to the cops and it turns out that she was trying to poison Younger. And they just play it
Starting point is 00:08:33 at the wake. Whoa. That's for one. And the dad is just like, the fuck? Yeah, fair enough. And then I think the authorities get involved.
Starting point is 00:08:43 There's someone who got shot in the head, but I can't remember how they fixed that. Anyway, so you try and fix it, and then as time goes on, Bruce Willis is like, God damn, my wife still doesn't acknowledge me. We're so distant. I reckon they'll be coming for divorce now.
Starting point is 00:08:58 He notices that he's not wearing his wedding ring or something, or maybe it falls off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he's like... It falls on the ground. He's like, but that's my wedding ring or something, or maybe it falls off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he's like... It falls on the ground. He's like, but that's my wedding ring. Oh, no! I'm a ghost.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And then he goes into the mirror. Not into the mirror. He goes to look in the mirror, and he looks for his bullet wound, and then he finds that it's a big gaping wound still, and he's like, ah, I've been fucking dead this whole time. So if a ghost doesn't know, the wounds that they experience to kill them might not turn up on their body?
Starting point is 00:09:26 I think they don't see it. I reckon that whole time, little Haley was like, he's got that wound. But when do I tell him? Because if you are, again, if you're talking to a ghost, and the ghost don't know you're a ghost, then how do I know that that's a ghost? Yeah, it could just be a really hurt man. I'm not helping you, you know it a ghost. And how do I know that that's a ghost? Yeah, it could just be a really hurt man. I'm not helping you. You're not a ghost.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Because if I don't see the wounds or I don't see what's going on, then I have no reason to believe or speculate that they are ghosts. That's very true. Because if they're just a guy like, oh, it's a child psychologist, and I'm chatting with them, and then, oh, there's the hole. But then it's like oh there's a hole on the appear when they realize
Starting point is 00:10:06 yeah do I always see that hole can you touch a ghost does Hayley ever touch her do they ever hug yeah does he ever get cause like I don't think so
Starting point is 00:10:13 they wouldn't I think that would be a hint to yeah yeah yeah yeah they can't interact with the real world cause that's just a good way to test but also
Starting point is 00:10:21 yeah like they like Cole's mum still takes Cole to the psychiatrist, whom is a ghost. So what is happening there? Oh, so she takes him to the place?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Well, she'd have to. He's a little boy. Does he come to her house and then hang out with the boy? Do we see that? Isn't it an office? Or is it like a little bit of a smash cut, and it's kind of like, you know, scene missing, we just assume. But then she's worried about her boy.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Funny, because you know the classic thing is like your kids talking to their imaginary friend and it's a monster or whatever. Who are you talking to, Billy? And he's like, my child psychologist. Huh. I don't know if that's worse or good. That's weirder. Are they helping you? Yeah. But they're dead. Oh. Ah, they are a ghost. I don't know if that's worse or good That's weirder Are they helping you? Yeah
Starting point is 00:11:05 But they're dead Oh They are a ghost Well is it a helpful ghost though? Yeah I just think it'd be more Yeah more concerning If you were Tony Collette
Starting point is 00:11:14 In this situation Yeah Being like Who's my kid? What's going on there? What's that? Why is he going on that Young girl's wake?
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah I let my kid get away with a lot Yeah How many ghosts are there in any given space? Say in this studio, this has been around for a while, people probably died. Used to be
Starting point is 00:11:34 a shop. Someone probably died shopping. Used to be a shop. There was bullet wounds in the front when we bought it. That's right. Saying a building has bullet wounds is good. That's not a joke This studio does have bullet holes Someone shot this place up pre-us being here
Starting point is 00:11:50 Which is even more surprising If they shot it while we were here I'd understand Stop talking shit Yeah fair enough Okay But so Over a long enough period of time How many ghosts To a square meter I don't of time, how many ghosts?
Starting point is 00:12:05 So wait. To a square meter. Here's why I don't think there's probably many ghosts, right? Okay. So the Earth is spinning at whatever million miles per second. Sure. Seven or eight or whatever. It's not just spinning in a spot.
Starting point is 00:12:17 It's also moving, right? Yeah, but the ghosts. But if you're a ghost, what if you're stuck? Yeah. Because ghosts aren't physically here. Yeah. So they're all sort of loose. Right?
Starting point is 00:12:28 So unless they are attached to this earthly realm, I reckon they're getting flung off into space. But we don't see that in the movie. We don't see it because we only see the people that are attached to earthly. Because it's a classic. It's also a classic. So you think that if you die and you know you've died. Well, you get spun off into space.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah, like there's nothing there. Like you can't, you know, ghostly grab onto whatever. So then there's nothing holding on to Earth. And while Earth is just chuffing off into the infinite beyond. Yeah. They're just like, what? Okay. I was going to say, is this an alternative to heaven?
Starting point is 00:13:01 A little bit of an alternative to heaven. You can either go to heaven. Then what happens when the Earth gets back? It doesn't, though. It doesn't. It's always moving forward. The whole... Oh, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Yeah, we're always going... Eventually, I guess your ghost goes... Well, it stays a little bit in Mars for a bit. That's true. Then it's like, oh, yeah, maybe I'll be attached to this. Get attached to a rock. Then you get attached to a rock. Or to a spaceman in the future.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Go to the Hubble telescope. Yeah. What's the speed of a ghost? I don't know if it has one. Because, I mean, it's up to the ghost. Well, no, because you'd be stationary and everything would be moving through you, right? Yeah, that's true. What's the speed of space?
Starting point is 00:13:36 I hate asking questions. I don't know why you've taken us down this path. Well, if you're a ghost. Because space has no speed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a vacuum. Famously. So if you're...
Starting point is 00:13:46 You'll say, this is the space that Earth was in. And then someone dies. And a little ghost. I'll be the ghost. You're the ghost there. And then the Earth is like, well, it fucks off that way. So that's going out that way. Presumably, whatever is in the Earth's wake.
Starting point is 00:14:02 So like, the moon. Oh, okay. Mars. Yeah, yeah. Asteroid belt. All. So like, the moon, Mars, asteroid belt, all that. Goes past the ghost. Goes past the ghost. The ghost is like,
Starting point is 00:14:10 everything's going so fast. I guess everything is going so fast that the ghost is sitting in blue. Yeah. I am confused how you got to the question you asked based on that explanation. What was space in your mind?
Starting point is 00:14:23 What do you mean the speed of space? Because you just answered... Everything else is going past it. So it's on a side of a road. And say if a car is... Mars is a car. I understand. Because things will just...
Starting point is 00:14:38 Just keep going past it. But then to take it back, what are you asking? I guess where's the ghost going to go? But then to take it back, what are you asking? I guess where's the ghost going to go? Could the ghost go further past the galaxy? I don't think the ghost is moving. Well, in your theory, the ghost is not moving,
Starting point is 00:14:56 which means it's not going anywhere. And so Earth is just leaving a trail of ghosts. Yeah, absolutely. That's kind of cool. I think that's what's happening here. Because also, you hear classic ghost stories where people are like, I saw a freaking ghost in my house, but it was walking like the floor was up to its knees or whatever. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:15:14 And then people are like, oh, the floor used to be lower or higher or whatever. So the ghost, it's not bound by floor. It seems to be bound by whatever was going on when it died. Yeah. But yeah, I guess to take it back to your question of how many ghosts in a space, if we base it on the sixth sense, they're around and they're scary because they don't know they're dead, so they're freaking out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Are they freaking out or are they just going by the day to day life? I think it depends because you get your Bruce Willis ghosts who think they're still out. Yeah. Are they freaking out or are they just going by the day to day life? I think it depends because you get your Bruce Willis ghosts who think they're still alive. Dickhead. But then you also get ghosts that are like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:15:50 I'm under your bed, Hayley Joel Osment. Yeah, and there's a ghost in a cupboard at the school. Because Mr. Barton, maybe, is just like, I'm still sick.
Starting point is 00:15:58 It sucks that your illness doesn't go when you're dead. That is a bummer. A ghost that's spewing up all the time. Well, is it like if your death was particularly traumatic, you're freaking out That is a bummer. A ghost that's spewing up all the time. Well, is it like if your death was particularly traumatic,
Starting point is 00:16:06 you're freaking out? Like, say I got hit by helicopter blades. Yep. So I did, base jumped really wrong. Three, two, one, and you jumped up.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Whiz. That's crazy that we, well, we stay, oh, right, we're in the air, right. Yeah, that makes sense. I imagine you were just on the edge of a cliff and there was a helicopter below. I don't know what I was picturing.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I was picturing the helicopter stationary, about to take off, and then I, three, two, one, jump up as it's taking off. See, I imagine you're ready to base jump out of the helicopter and jump too high. I go in the wrong direction. And then I'm whizzed. I'm a whizzed man. Now that's a pretty traumatic way to go. Yeah, because does that mean you think you're base jumping the whole time you're dead?
Starting point is 00:16:54 No, because you base jumped, and that was a good base jump, and then you continue with your day-to-day life. Yeah. Or do I, it depends how trapped I become. Am I just a screaming ribbons of people? Well, yeah, because all of the ghosts we see in the movie look like how they die. So you would be nothing. Yeah, you would be bits of viscera.
Starting point is 00:17:16 You would be floating chunks. My little vocal cord being like, yeah, base jumping rules. I think at that point you'd be aware you're dead. I don't know, because it would probably happen so quickly. Yeah, but you can see yourself. Oh, if I can see myself? And I look down and it's just like my guts? I don't remember how I didn't look like this before.
Starting point is 00:17:38 You'd be seeing two different things because eyes in different spots. Could you be reconstituted in a weird way? Or many cuts of where the blade would have gone and where you've been eviscerated. Yeah. Yeah. And also you wouldn't see that anyway because you'd be like, I'm not dead. I'm based. I'm based.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I'm killing it out here. What? And also why would you stick around? Because do you need to tell a little boy something? Yeah. If Hayley Joel has a little boy listen to you for... Bruce Willis knows that he got shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:09 He just thinks he survived. Maybe that's what I think. Whoa, it's crazy I jumped into those helicopter blades. Just got a bit of the head, you know. Got a bit of hair got. I pull off my scalp because I'm sliced lengthways the whole way down. Wow, it's crazy that my skull was so thick it stopped the helicopter blade, I reckon. Also, it's funny because in this scenario,
Starting point is 00:18:28 I jumped up. An impossible thing to do. Do I still think I'm base jumping towards space? Oh, base jumping. I thought it was space jumping. Oh, my bad. I was trying to reach the moon. I'm guts now.
Starting point is 00:18:44 What would my unfinished business be? I guess I never did base jump well okay well Haley Joel Osment is gonna take my viscera up in a plane and kick it out I I I well based on based on what we see every murder victim will be a ghost yeah yeah which means that a lot of the things you'd pretty much if you get the six so basically I guess if I get the six cents power I'm like the only way I'm going to know peace is if I become a detective. That is true. Private eye, I reckon.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Like if somebody comes up and starts hassling you. You're like, brother, you've been murdered. Yeah. Let's get to the bottom of this. Do you have to, like,
Starting point is 00:19:17 how do you, do you have to find out how they were murdered or is just telling them they were murdered enough? Well, they need closure, it seems. Because Misha Barton maybe, um, is pretty much trying to protect her sister.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yeah. But also spread the truth. Wish I could remember anything about the person that shot themselves with a shotgun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just remember it looked yuck. Yeah, oh, yeah, I can imagine. It's annoying. Yeah, they're seeking his help.
Starting point is 00:19:41 So the dead people are seeking his help to resolve unfinished business. Yeah, okay. So I think it's a way with Bruce Willis, maybe seeking out Cole, because his unfinished business is reconciling with his wife. Yeah. And helping her move on. But he doesn't really know that, but he's just drawn to that little boy to help. His unfinished business is also that he thinks he failed Vincent, right?
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah, so if he helps Charliealey Joel, then he'll- He's like, you are baby Vincent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then he'll have- That's his unfinished- Well, do you reckon you could help ghosts with their unfinished business? How much time is this taking out of your regular day? Well, am I a little boy or am I me?
Starting point is 00:20:16 You're you now. Oh, yeah. I could do one a day, I reckon. I reckon, yeah. Have to call in to work. Hey, Zaman, I can't come in today. I'm hoping a dumb ghost- No, you'd have to schedule it. The ghosts
Starting point is 00:20:25 would just have to wait. Yeah. Sorry, mate. This service. So once a day. I gotta do some podcasts. I don't know what's I'm telling you to do. I reckon 7pm till 10pm. That's ghost time? That's ghost time. Hey, Jack, I reckon I could monetize this. Are you gonna monetize the six cents?
Starting point is 00:20:42 Okay, so you can talk to dead people. Sure can. And they have unresolved business. Most of it is usually like, who killed me? Yeah, yeah. Or how did I die or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so can we maybe get case fire? Basically, we're doing true crime.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Oh, yeah. Like podcast slash a video thing. And we're actually like, yeah, he did it. And there's the proof. That's true. And unlike true crime podcasts, we're like, here's a fucked up thing that happened. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:21:08 And now let's quickly play the 911 call. Yeah, exactly. Isn't that fucked up? Wow. Do you reckon this is terrible? No. No, I think it's fine. Let's keep going.
Starting point is 00:21:18 We could be like, hey, we solved it. We solved the case. And also, you're listening. And also, subscribe to our Patreon. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah help us get more money so we can play with your help
Starting point is 00:21:27 we can find more murderers yeah with your help we can pay for plane tickets to help our ghosts overseas ghosts yeah that's true overseas ghosts
Starting point is 00:21:35 you can finally find out who killed your Italian uncle yeah do you think if I helped a bunch of ghosts resolve their shit go to heaven yeah
Starting point is 00:21:42 when I went to heaven alright just stop tracking I'm waiting heaven. When I went to heaven... Alright, just stop tracking. I'm waiting for this. When I went to heaven, would I get special treatment? So, yeah, I reckon he would. I would not. Because now you've lived a pious life in a weird way. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I've done good. You've done good. You've balanced out all your terribleness. That might be what gets me into heaven. Yeah, you balance it out. Yeah, they're like, you talked about popping... Well, here's your horrible, horrible deeds. You did talk about popping Christ's nut back into his loincloth, but you helped this person resolve their death, sir.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But is getting someone punished for a crime an eye for an eye? Because if that is the case, that is not allowed in the Bible. Well, that's not on him. That's on the system. That's a justice system, baby. Look, I suspect that heaven, not a lot of guys there yeah pretty quiet yeah yeah yeah yeah and also again it's like it's not really eye for an eye you're helping again unless they're the the ghosts are spirits of vengeance yeah that's true uh you're helping you know the closure get something resolved and then you know what happens next isn't your responsibility.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Out of my hands, dude. You've exposed the truth. Yeah. Yeah, you could actually write a book. Well, I'm thinking I could become a psychic. You know Medium, the TV series Medium? Oh, yeah. What about me?
Starting point is 00:22:56 Patricia Arquette. What's that? Patricia Arquette. And then there's Ghost Whisperer with a part of your five, maybe. Jennifer. Love Hewitt? Yeah. Yeah? That's an awesome name. Yeah, that is good. I, maybe? Jennifer. Love Hewitt? Yeah. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:23:06 That's an awesome name. Yeah, that is good. What if your name was Jackson Love Hewitt? Well, I'd change it for the show. Jackson Love Hewitt, Ghost Gettler. Ghost Settler? I said Gettler. I made a Gettle the Ghost.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Canceled after one season. Ghost Gettler Well I think the problem With all of this is The difference Like Jackson interacts with a ghost We can't see that
Starting point is 00:23:32 We only see Jackson's side of the things Yeah Correct I'm worried the content won't be good Well yeah but the thing is So Jackson is like He's talking to the ghost Yeah
Starting point is 00:23:42 And then So we're not filming this You're right This is just a man yelling at the wall. What happened to you? Huh? So we'd be there like. You're dead, by the way.
Starting point is 00:23:52 So it would just be. How long did it take me to tell him? I'd be like, okay, we're transcribing or at least like, you know, jotting down notes. So we know the timeline. Yeah. We're knowing what's going on. And then we're like, okay. Then we, you know, we are either taking photographs or filming the situation
Starting point is 00:24:06 and the areas or whatever, and we're getting the evidence, because that's what you're allowing, right? It's getting the evidence. And then with that evidence, we're piecing it all together, and then we just explain that later. It's a true crime podcast, but the twist is, the hook, I'm legitimately
Starting point is 00:24:22 psychic. But how do we prove that? We don't. We lie. And which part of the podcast, which part of the process are we recording and releasing? I think it's good to record the bit where I talk to the ghost. See, I would just, like, let's just be, like, we're investigative
Starting point is 00:24:37 journalists. Oh, okay. And we are going through, and we fucking bat a hundred. But do we get anything, what? But yeah, well, like, which? Because the ghost doesn't know who killed them a lot of the time. Well, we just bat a hundred. But do we get anything what? But yeah, well like which? Because the ghost doesn't know who killed them a lot of the time. Well, we just know
Starting point is 00:24:49 they died. Well, yeah, but again, if you go into the Misha Barton one, maybe, it's revealed that the mother does kill that kid, right? That's true, that's
Starting point is 00:24:59 true. So again, it's a kind of like, yeah. Okay, well let's use that as an example. Yeah. Let's pretend instead of Cole, Jackson found out about this. Yeah. What's the episode? and it's a kind of like okay well like let's use that as an example yeah let's pretend instead of
Starting point is 00:25:05 call Jackson found out about this yeah what's the episode yeah so the episode would be because again
Starting point is 00:25:10 does it make the news like the death of the girl probably would be in the obituaries maybe yeah because again
Starting point is 00:25:17 now it's a bit morbid we're now like you know being ghoulish and preying on the tragedy of a family so I'm chatting
Starting point is 00:25:24 to this kid. And it's that mixed with the fact that there's no interesting back information because you just know that a girl died and that her mom killed her. It's not like, here's the history of this family. Do you know that from the ghost? No. No, not at all. I mean, I could probably ask.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Well, that's why you kind of would do the whole thing. So you'd have to interview the ghost. Not the ghost. You'd have to just interview other people around it because again if you're making a documentary
Starting point is 00:25:48 and if you're making a documentary about a murder of someone you don't interview the dead no no no that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:25:54 that's the only difference the difference is because if you remove the not interviewing the dead person or not bringing in what the dead person does it is just
Starting point is 00:26:02 my favourite murder yeah but then you solve the murder. But how do we guarantee that? Because the ghost doesn't have any. We don't show those ones. Okay, all right. It's media. We obscure the truth a little.
Starting point is 00:26:17 That's funny that there's a bevy of ghosts that I just haven't fixed. We can fix them. But again, it's like, well, is that an interesting story? Yeah, well. Well, no, but we'll help them out anyway. I think it's funny to be like, all right, we're going to monetize this, but the thing we're not monetizing is the only thing in this that makes us different. But then the other thing, we're worse at than other people.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Why are we worse at it? You think we're good investigative journalists? I guess we will. Better than journalists? We've got to get a cheat sheet. No, but we've got a cheat sheet that we're not using because we're not using that content. We are using it. It's just you have to kind of use it
Starting point is 00:26:51 in context. You don't be like, I talk to ghosts and the ghosts said this. I think it's better to do that. Well, that's another way of trying to monetize it, which is what's become the episode. I think you... How are you going to monetize? How are you, how are you, I can talk to ghosts. How are you monetizing him talking to ghosts and letting everyone
Starting point is 00:27:09 know he talks to ghosts without this becoming a shit show? I talk to ghosts. I say, what's up, dude? You died from eating crab wrong or whatever? Hey, there's a guy here. You can't see him, but I can. He choked on a crab and he wants to sue the seafood. I think that I'm just being, I think I'm just like, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:26 So cold readings and stuff like that, people can do. Yeah. It's not that hard. Jackson, on the other hand, isn't doing cold readings. It's just, so then you'd be like, hey, if someone in your family or someone you know. Yeah. Basically, I just make him a sidekick. Yeah, but the trouble with that is that I don't get to pick who I talk to.
Starting point is 00:27:44 No, I know. him a psychic. Yeah, but the trouble with that is that I don't get to pick who I talk to. No, I know. It doesn't matter because if someone comes in, pretty much you pitch it as a psychic where you check with Jackson if your family's at peace. And if they're not at peace, Jackson can fix it. But if they are at peace, that's good. And they still pay either way. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Okay. Because if someone's like... But they all come to Jackson, though. No, no, no. And then? Okay, so... No, but I get it. You're i get it okay say i'm misha barton's baby's dad okay and i'm like hey my daughter i want to check my daughter's at peace
Starting point is 00:28:13 yeah nice then i would take jackson to my house and then jackson's like oh i'm gonna look around for the guy yeah okay okay and then if you're like they're at peace They're not here But then if they are there You're like Dude Dude your daughter's still sick This is bad Yeah Well do they
Starting point is 00:28:31 But do Do they just hang around The environment They died in They seem to Or whatever Or like with Bruce Willis Well Bruce Willis only goes
Starting point is 00:28:39 They're drawn Yeah But he's only He only goes from his house To his work maybe But they are drawn To Hayley Joel Osment they know he can see them and they come to him and they're like
Starting point is 00:28:47 help me because doesn't Hayley Joel see Misha Barton maybe when he's just like in bed and then there's like a tent or whatever and then she opens it that's in Hayley Joel's bedroom so the ghosts will be coming to you and then we've got to go to that house
Starting point is 00:29:02 that's right and then they go to that place I think it's in the newspaper maybe because they're like oh that's the girl that died coming to you. And then we've got to go to that house. That's right. And then they go to that place because of a, I think it's in the newspaper maybe. Yeah, okay. Because they're like, oh, that's the girl that died. That's the girl that we need to go investigate. We've come back to the issue of where are ghosts? Yeah, where are ghosts?
Starting point is 00:29:15 Because if ghosts are in the house. And also she can teleport her whole like tent. That's a projection. Is that a ghost tent? Go back to school with Rogers and get Canada's fastest and most reliable internet. Perfect for streaming lectures all day or binging TV shows all night. Save up to $20 per month on Rogers Internet. Visit Rogers.com for details.
Starting point is 00:29:39 We got you. Rogers. Can the ghosts... Does that mean you can kill a tent? You can kill... Yeah, a tent can go to heaven. If I kill a guy in a tent... That tent goes to heaven. That tent goes to heaven.
Starting point is 00:29:54 The tent can come back as a ghost with a guy in it. Because all the ghosts have clothes... Because the cyclist... Yeah. That's a ghost bike. The cyclist and ghost Lycra. He's wearing a full-on helmet, Lycra, and riding his bike. That's a full-on ghost outfit. The cyclist and ghost Lycra. He's wearing a full on helmet, Lycra, and riding his bike. That's a full on ghost outfit.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah. It's weird that it... Because you could kill a guy in a tent. Guy in the tent could come back. Easy. Not even hard. Yeah, yeah. He's not expecting it. He's sleeping. Trident. No, you just open the flap, grenade in, zip back up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But you kill a guy in a house, the house doesn't come back. But the house, the old floor that was slightly lower or higher does. How big a dwelling before it comes? Ghost floor. I'm haunted by a floor. Did you know that back in 1973, the floor was up to here? It was a high house.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I look to my right and I see a bit of hardwood floor coming in my head. It's just a ghost floor. Don't worry, guys. There's no guy associated with it? Not that I can find. They killed this fucking floor. I think that you're just open with it
Starting point is 00:31:03 because the type of people you attract if people don't believe you that's fine you might get interviewed on 60 minutes being like you're exploiting this family well some in a way that'll be stressful for you but you'll know I was gonna say that you are
Starting point is 00:31:20 actually helping people but I guess if you say well some you're off in the wings like, well, we're done. Well, that was a good run for... How much money did we make so far? Oh, 60 bucks? Yeah, that's alright. It's just tricky because
Starting point is 00:31:35 I don't have heaps of say in what ghosts I talk to. Could you... I know, because as JD, you pointed out, we are not journalists. Could we team up with, say, either a journalist or a private eye? Kind of like pushing daisies in a way where, sure, you have the power to talk to the dead or the dead that come to you. And then we need like a – is it Chi McBride kind of person who comes and is like, hey, help me with this case. That's true.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I could do that. I mean that happens. I mean I don't think it happens today. That happens in Medium, the TV show. And do that. I mean, that happens. I mean, I don't think it happens today. Or medium. That happens in medium. And maybe ghost whisperer, we think. Sometimes cops go to, when they're really desperate, they go to mediums. I could do that.
Starting point is 00:32:13 In some cases, they go to an exorcist for some reason. Yeah, that's strange. In some cases, someone will randomly just be like, I think I spoke to this ghost, and they just pick a random person that was like, they did it, and then suddenly, now they've got to go to court to say that,
Starting point is 00:32:32 why is this person slandering me? On a ghost testimony, I'm in court. I've got to say, I don't think the justice system is doing awesome. Well, you'd have to team up with some kind regardless of how you want to do it you're gonna have to team up because like with some kind of police force because unlike what the sixth sense leads you to believe so say the misha barton maybe yeah tape like yeah that tapes evidence but if it's any other ghost where it's like here's the bullet that killed me yeah you pick it up it's fucked you're going to jail. You pick it up. It's fucked. You're going to jail for murder. You pick it up.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Here it is, officer. The ghost told me where it was. Okay, so you're definitely under arrest for the murder of this person. I wouldn't be murdered. I mean, you'd be under, like... Under suspicion. You'd be under suspicion.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And then when I'm sitting there... It'd be kind of very simple. You'd be suspect number one. Are you like a firefighter who keeps lighting their own fires? No, I just can see ghosts Because I was born wrong Came out the pussy bad
Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah I don't know I guess yeah If you are Like doing it Yeah like For no real reason You're sort of doing it
Starting point is 00:33:35 And being like Hey cops or whatever Maybe look here Etc etc It's like yeah Kind of like in that TV show that I fondly remember Called Early Edition
Starting point is 00:33:44 Oh yes Hardly anyone else remembers Is that about news A dog brings A cat It's like, yeah, kind of like in that TV show that I fondly remember called Early Edition. Oh, yeah. Hardly anyone else remembers. Is that about news? A dog brings. A cat. An orange cat brings. I believe it is Coach Taylor. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Friday Night Lights. He brings him tomorrow's newspaper today. And then he goes there and he solves a crime. That's so awesome. And so he prevents things that happen. And then at some point a cop's like, why are you always fucking here? What's going on? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Is the cat causing the crimes? No, the cat's bringing the newspapers. I think the cat's involved. Well, maybe what I could do. Well, the thing is, if that's the situation there, though, it's like the crimes already happened and there's clearly like this chance.
Starting point is 00:34:23 There's no way you could be there any way, because they'd be like, well, we know the time of death, and, you know, we have you on CCTV somewhere else, or whatever it might be. But you have the ball. There you are, like, twitching and like, hey, I'm playing Starfield or whatever. It's still bad. This game's not very fun, hey. So, you know, there'd be evidence where, like, well, he can't be there.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yeah. He knows what's going on. And I'm like, are you being forthcoming and being like, I'll talk to the ghost. Well, I think that would in a way help me. Yeah. Because the cops already sometimes go to mediums. So there's precedent if I'm like, brother, the spirits, they speak to my brain. I think as long as you do those arm movements, you'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:35:02 The spirits, the ghosts of the realm, they come into my mouth and ears and eyes. There's dead cunts everywhere. So I just, yeah, I think you're better off saying that because there are people out there that just do believe in this bullshit. Well, maybe what I could do instead is just find houses that people are already like, there's a ghost in my house. Yeah. And then, because I know ghosts are real. So then you go there and you're like, Yep.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Yeah, there is. Call the Warrens, maybe? I don't know. I can't exorcise the ghost, but I can confirm a haunting. I can talk to it, but if it's mean, it will frighten me. Can you confirm? I mean, because again, it's like they come to you and then I guess, yeah, they are attached to us.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Because if somebody's like, you've got to accept, in this world, there are ghosts. And if somebody's like, books are knocked off the shelf, my TV turns on, somebody rubs my face
Starting point is 00:35:55 while I sleep or whatever, then I go there and I see the ghost doing that. Yeah. I can be like, yeah, you're right. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:36:03 50 bucks. Because you can, yeah Yeah Well because you can Yeah well you can talk to the ghost Yeah And In this The ghosts that hang around All of them don't know they're dead?
Starting point is 00:36:12 I think they just all have Unfinished business Yeah And probably varying degrees Of understanding of how dead they are Yeah So at least you can have a conversation And be like
Starting point is 00:36:20 What do you want? And how Like one thing with the sixth sense Like how deep does the unfinished business have to be before it counts as unfinished business? Someone dies taking a shit, is having an unwiped arsehole, is that unfinished business?
Starting point is 00:36:32 I'm sure the undertaker would wipe you. That's so funny. You're just waiting around for the brief, maybe two or three days whilst you're in the funeral home. Come on, Come on. Wipe me. Wipe me.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Clean me up. Oh, thank God. That's funny that an, uh, undertaker. Or be a mortician. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Whatever it is. They have to wipe the ass of a dead person. They gotta clean everything. Yeah. That's awesome. They gotta fill you up with different fluids. Yeah. Take all the other fluids out.
Starting point is 00:37:03 That was my unfinished business. Too many fluids. Brother, that just happens. That's true. My unfinished business is that I have a chat myself and then when I die I shit myself and I go to heaven. Straight away. I was a ghost for about a millisecond.
Starting point is 00:37:18 No one said, oh! Come on, sphincter, loosen! Loosen! What about, I don't know You just What about this You're eating the gobstopper Yeah
Starting point is 00:37:30 You Down You choke You die You didn't eat the gobstopper Gobstopper Yeah Got lodged
Starting point is 00:37:37 Yeah Did you eat that gobstopper Cause it got lodged in your throat Yeah Is that enough Are you not gonna go to heaven Until somebody goes On your throat And sends the gobstopper Are you not going to go to heaven until somebody goes on your throat
Starting point is 00:37:45 and sends the gobstopper down? Well, you're dead, right? Yeah. Presumably again. The mortician takes care of this. Oh yeah, that's true. That would be bad if I was looking at
Starting point is 00:37:53 like my great aunt and I'm like, there's a gobstopper. It's an open casket and there's this giant gobstopper in your throat. What the hell? That's the thing that killed her.
Starting point is 00:38:02 You should definitely have removed that. Take it out. This is a bad funeral home. Yeah, what's the degree of... Hey, for me, six cents and that's easy to fix. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 00:38:13 You're fine. Yeah. All right. What about... Well, actually, let's explore that situation. Yeah. Ghost comes to me. Ghost has a big gobstopper stuck in his throat.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Help, I'm one of the characters in the film Jawbreaker. Yeah. Okay. I was the one who got put in the car boot. I've never seen it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They put a golf stopper in my mouth and they put duct tape and that was to kind of like gag me,
Starting point is 00:38:31 but then I accidentally swallowed the whole thing. And then I woke up, they stopped and they opened the boot as a funny prank and I'm dead. That's really, there's a whole... But don't worry, they pinned the crime on Marilyn Manson. Ew, that guy sucks. Yeah. Well, okay, but you're a ghost
Starting point is 00:38:46 and you're like, my unfinished business, I haven't swallowed this gobstopper. Yes. Can you swallow a gobstopper as a ghost? My question there for ghost is, well, do you want the gobstopper removed? Yeah. Or do you want to finish the gobstopper? If they, like, finish the gobstopper, I think you might be
Starting point is 00:39:02 fucked. Enjoy your turn now. Sorry, buddy. As a ghost, do you have a tongue? Can you reach in? Swallow? Or do I have to dig them up and then push the gobstopper down? Because they're coming to you as a ghost, can I just ghost shove?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Yeah. Make them swallow their throat a little bit. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't think that's enough to keep you attached. I think it is like injustice. True, true, true. It seems to be. Or like maybe, I'm just thinking of Misha Barton. It's like my mom killed me.
Starting point is 00:39:42 She's getting sympathy and my dad is distraught and I'm worried about my sister. So there's a couple of things there that they clearly are like, well, shit's going down. And so is the attachment there to be like, I've got to protect sister? Is the attachment there like dad's sad and he thinks that – but he doesn't realize that he's married a monster. Yeah. Or is it that like mom killed me and she needs to be punished? Or a combination of all three. What is it holding her? Is it all
Starting point is 00:40:08 three? Is it one particular one? Because a guy who gets hit by a cyclist, like the cyclist gets hit, he doesn't instantly go away. He is a cyclist for a bit. Does he get back up and then just ride off? Yeah, they see him cycle past the window
Starting point is 00:40:23 of the car. Where's. Weird. Where's he going? Where's he going? Oh, is it like when he arrives at his destination, he's like, I finally arrived at his destination. Maybe he's in the middle of like a ride, yeah, finishing a ride, I guess. Yeah, I suppose. But maybe, well, maybe that's the thing, that there are little... What about that guy that died because he suffocated between
Starting point is 00:40:40 two voluptuous breasts? Yeah, okay. Does he not go to heaven until he comes? Do I have to jerk this ghost off? Or do you have to get voluptuous breasts and put them in his face until he comes? Yeah, I don't know. That's going to be hard to convince. Or a very easy job for those sex workers.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Like, hey, just go here. I know to you it doesn't look like there's a guy. This is doing nothing for me. You could wear one of them aprons with the fake titties. They're quite voluptuous. It doesn't look like there's a guy. This is doing nothing for me. I wouldn't even be in the room. You could wear one of them aprons with the fake titties. They're quite voluptuous. Yeah. And then get him to jerk himself off.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I didn't have enough money to hire anyone, but this is just as good. Yeah. If you close your eyes. Just holding the ghost here. You're whacking it, dude. Let me know when you've come. He might go to heaven just to get out of this situation. Oh, it worked!
Starting point is 00:41:27 Wow, that was easy. You're still there. I'm actually going now. You can leave. Mine's taking longer than normal. Yeah, just take your apron and get out of here. Okay, it doesn't look like you've come to me, but... Do you want me to leave the apron?
Starting point is 00:41:43 If you want to finish off or whatever? Oh, I'm going! I'm in heaven now! I'm fading away! Don't look like it, but you're alright. Whatever, guy. It seems there's violent deaths and deaths that you're attached to.
Starting point is 00:41:57 If you got six cents, would you feel sort of happy knowing that heaven is on the cards? Or there's some kind of afterlife? Yeah, I don't know. Because it's a tricky one because it doesn't necessarily prove the existence of a pleasant afterlife. It just proves that if you die with unfinished business... You're sticking around.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yeah, and you don't know your death. I guess if you get six cents, you're not going to stick around when you die also. Because you'll know that you're a ghost because you know about ghosts. Would you though? By the way, Bruce Willis is named Malcolm. Malcolm! Like a dead bird. I mean a live bird, but the bird of death, crows.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Oh! What? Malcolm Crow. Crow being the bird of death often. It lives in graveyards sometimes. It eats corpse. It picked out Odin's sometimes. Yeah. It eats corpse. Yeah. Because he is like... Peck that Odin's eyes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Here's what I keep thinking. Something you eat when you eat shit? Eat crow? Go eat crow? No, that's what you like. Oh, you're fucked up? It's like you've got a...
Starting point is 00:42:57 You've become humbled. You're like, oh, I'll eat crow and that. I thought I was right. I'm wrong. I'll eat crow. Is it like you'll eat crow pie? No, you're thinking
Starting point is 00:43:04 of 4 and 20 blackbirds Baked in a pie Yeah I knew about that Yeah I knew about that Yeah yeah I knew about the blackbirds Baked in a pie
Starting point is 00:43:11 I'm across the pie Alright Yeah yeah Here's what I keep thinking Drop the pie So The ghosts You don't see heaven
Starting point is 00:43:19 In the sixth sense No Right But the ghosts just go Yeah Now I've not For me it's not confirmed Whether they become Part of the right but the ghosts just go yeah now i've not got for me it's not confirmed whether they become part of the infinite whatever or they just go they just go and fade yeah but i
Starting point is 00:43:31 know i can still live as a ghost would you try and set up unfinished business to live an immortal life well that's tricky because the ghosts aren't happy in their immortal life. No. Well, Bruce Willis. No, Bruce Willis is deeply unhappy by it. Yeah. But you just know you'll get to stick around. And no one will interact with you. Yeah. You get to see the world, I guess.
Starting point is 00:43:59 No, but you're doing your business that's unfinished. That's true. You're going to see it in snippets as well. You can't be like, well, I've got unfinished business. Time to catch up on all my TV shows. It also feels like that you kind of lose agency. 100%.
Starting point is 00:44:12 And it seems to be you're drawn to this little boy to help fix your problems. I'm just trying to think of what unfinished business could entertain me for eternity. Like, what if I go to Disneyland? And your dream is my unfinished business is- I'm dream is I'm here to do, I will do every ride at Disneyland. Throughout until the end
Starting point is 00:44:30 of time. Yeah, exactly. Oh no! And then I die on Space Mountain. Yeah. And then I just get to hang out at Disneyland for eternity. Yeah, because you're unfinished businesses, you've got to go on every single ride. And then I just don't go on every single ride.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I pick a bad one and I never do it. No, but you can't not go on a... Because as a ghost, you are trying to... It seems like you don't have the agency to choose. You don't want to do it. It seems like, yeah, you want to move on. You're compelled to figure it out. I go on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride and go to hell.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Yeah. You're like, oh, seeing Johnny Depp was the last thing I needed to do. That's all I needed. Animatronic Johnny Depp sent me to heaven yeah and you're like oh damn it seeing johnny depp was the last thing animatronic johnny depp sent me to heaven oh you're a real pirate now yeah because again you you only see what you yeah the ghosts always say they only see what they want to see or like that's what um hayley joel says okay so you know it's like you only see what you want to see so you'll only be seeing the rides that you want to see, right? Yeah. And then the moment you go on them. Yeah, off you go. Johnny Depp will say the rum's gone and then you'll be gone. I'll be gone.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Hayley would be like, I'm going to Disneyland. It's crazy. There's no ghosts here. It's very easy for them to finish this unfinished business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Monetizing the six cents, to take it back to that, seems pretty tricky. But then also, I guess the only real thing you can get from this is personal satisfaction
Starting point is 00:45:46 of, I'm a good person. I've helped some people who need to move on. Clearly there's something, I'm a special little boy, there's something about me that these ghosts are drawn to, and I guess with this great power comes great responsibility, and I've got to help them move on and achieve
Starting point is 00:46:01 whatever goal they have. I guess it's become a life coach, but it's a death coach. And it's a forever job you can't quit. True. Yeah, that is annoying. Could I become a life coach? Okay, well, let's hear it.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Because I'm a death coach, and I'm basically helping these people move on and achieve their goals. But I then transfer that into what people like to be like- Those are transferable skills. I've had experience. I mean, maybe I wouldn't say this, because, again, you sound like maybe a crazy person. But because I have experience helping. I mean, maybe I wouldn't say this because, again, you sound like maybe a crazy person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But because I have experience helping people achieve their, literally, their lifelong desire,
Starting point is 00:46:30 their tick off that bucket list, by enough times, you'd be like, there are obvious common themes here that people want to do and achieve. So having that, you then, yeah, transfer those skills. And you've been doing it since childhood. Exactly. I'm a virtuoso at this. It's crazy that most people, you know, these are the biggest regrets people have in life.
Starting point is 00:46:50 You list them off. And you can go really specific to the point everyone's like, huh, that's very specific. Yeah. It's funny if you're like, these are the things people want in life. These are their main goals. Figure out who killed them. Make mom stop killing my sister yeah this is what every
Starting point is 00:47:06 single person wants in this life yeah like you could have enough of that because i'm assuming again depending what holds these ghosts these earthly realms if it's not always like you know guilty conscience and uh you know who killed me and yeah a violent death if it's just like little things here and there like i want to tell my loved one, like, you know, I'm moving on. Or like, I didn't tell them about this. Or in the ghost whisperer, or like. As a life coach being like, look, the one big regret when people died is that they didn't get to tell their
Starting point is 00:47:35 loved ones that they're moving on to a better place. Yes. Yeah. So you're just going to want to build up to that. Maybe tell them every day. Every day. Or I'm just getting, because it's either in ghostperer or it's Medium,
Starting point is 00:47:45 one of the two. It's kind of like, oh, there's like a thing that they, you know, oh, I've got like, oh, the deed is over there and it's buried under whatever. Oh yeah, that's a classic. There's gold in the mantelpiece
Starting point is 00:47:54 or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Classic one of those kind of things. Yeah, there's gold in the mantelpiece. So is it just like, be more organized? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Make sure you don't die and not tell people where your fortune is buried yeah yeah yeah live life like if you were to die don't fuck over the people around you well I mean that's good advice are there goals that a ghost could have that are unachievable
Starting point is 00:48:17 like surely there will be goals I want to finger the president bring me back from the dead my only regret is that I didn't live forever. Those are the two extremes of things that cannot be achieved. Fingering the president, coming back from the death. From the death.
Starting point is 00:48:33 What do you tell a ghost that comes to you and they're like I want to finger the president. Brother, that ain't gonna happen. No, no, no. You're giving up too soon. What kind of president? A president of a local football club? I reckon we could do this. Can a ghost even finger?
Starting point is 00:48:50 I mean, it could put itself inside something. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, in many ways, when a ghost walks through you, they've fingered your whole body. You might be getting fingered by a ghost right now. You wouldn't know it. Yeah. Just can't feel it, which sucks. It would be awesome if you could.
Starting point is 00:49:02 It would be cool. It sucks for everyone involved. Yeah, it would be cool. The ghost's furious. They're not reacting. They're not even giving you could. Sucks for everyone involved. The ghost's furious. They're not reacting. They're not even giving any feedback. God, you're stupid. You're fucked.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I think it would just, it would wreck your life, being sixth sense. Yeah. At first I came in here coming in hot and I was like, it'll be chill between the hours of 6 and 9pm every day. That's ghost time.
Starting point is 00:49:23 But then it's a job you can't quit. Yeah. It would be traumatic all the time. Absolutely. A lot of the time it would be, like, annoying. It's just a lot of your day. It's not a simple thing to solve a murder. And the skills you get from that,
Starting point is 00:49:36 or, like, talking to a ghost, aren't necessarily directly transferable. So, like, trying to make it into content creation, you just end up still back behind all of the true crime podcasts because even though you are talking to the ghost it's hard to say sometimes the ghost doesn't know how they die they have no idea who killed them and they're like
Starting point is 00:49:53 figure it out and you're like well now I'm a detective that's not what I wanted out of my life even like a life coach, like it will be tricky to talk to a ghost and then figure out how to sell yourself as a good life coach you'll know the regrets most ghosts have. Yeah, because if you're talking to the dead and it's
Starting point is 00:50:09 not just like, oh, why they're here in terms of like, oh, I want to get revenge on someone. You might be like, hey, while we're here, let's just tell me about your life. Yeah, that's true. You're interviewing a lot of people. You are talking to, by and large, a lot of people and you're like, hey, buddy, you're dead. Is there anything you kind of either wish you did or wish, you know, those kind of
Starting point is 00:50:25 things. But that also requires introspection from the dead. Yeah, that's true. And they might not have that. And then also that means that your life coach has one thing, which is, hey, come to me and I'll tell you what the top three things do the general public regret when they die. It's a way of spinning that. You can transfer and make that do something. But that's
Starting point is 00:50:41 your whole life. But again, you don't get a choice anymore. Exactly, right? But this is like when, because you're, how old is Hayley when he sees everybody? Nine. So again, you're right. Like, unfortunately, it kind of sets yourself up
Starting point is 00:50:52 for this is now your job. This is your career and this is what you're, you're stuck with it, right? Because there's another way where you just shut it all down. Yeah. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:50:59 I'm just going to get spooked every now and then. I would learn to not be scared of ghosts. Yeah. And then, well, that's what Cole does in the movie. Yeah. Smart. Very.
Starting point is 00:51:08 But then it's that kind of thing of like, well, you know, isn't it either your moral obligation to help these ghosts? And also something we have not even discussed in this. Yeah. Cole doesn't know Malcolm's dead at first, which means you could meet people and not realize they're a ghost. Yeah, so he doesn't know he's dead? Cole doesn't know that Malcolm's dead, at least not at first.
Starting point is 00:51:26 At least. Well, the movie never. Yeah. Because he tells, because the whole thing is like, I see dead people. Yeah. He wouldn't have to tell Malcolm that if Malcolm knew he was dead. Yeah. Like Malcolm was dead.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Well, yeah, but Malcolm doesn't know that he's dead. Yeah, but does Cole know that Malcolm doesn't know that Malcolm is dead? This is what I'm saying in the start of the episode. Again, maybe because like he sees, maybe he sees the gunshot that, you know, Malcolm doesn't know that Malcolm doesn't know. This is what I'm saying in the start of the episode. Maybe because he sees the gunshot that Malcolm does. It's rude that he never says anything. But then the ghost only sees and presumably hears what he wants to hear.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Ghosts are so annoying. Right? Because you're like, you're dead. Interesting. You would say such a thing. Okay, so how does that make you feel about your mother? You're dead, cunt. You're dead, cunt. Oh, so like, I see dead people like you. Like you. Go to like, I see dead people like you. Like you. Go to heaven.
Starting point is 00:52:06 You see dead people, do you? Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. I'm going to shut that out. I'm calling the Ghostbusters. Suck them all up, Bill. Dan.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Get that fucking ghost jail. Put them all in there. Fuck them. Shut up. Like, again, because initially I'm like look maybe we try and be helpful yeah great power
Starting point is 00:52:27 great responsibility help these motherfuckers out but oh my god day in day out when do I get a and also it sounds like it starts from child birth I was gonna say
Starting point is 00:52:37 which I guess yeah I guess all these ghosts hanging around the feet not feet infant yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:52:42 hanging around a baby baby doesn't know how to deal with that baby like you're gonna grow up wrong yeah you're gonna grow up real everyone's gonna think
Starting point is 00:52:51 yeah well again like what Tony Collette does take you to see a child absolutely and then it turns out that psychologist is a ghost is also a ghost
Starting point is 00:52:57 also what if your mum was dead you don't know you don't know you could be raised by ghosts unless you do know but then yeah I don't know
Starting point is 00:53:04 I'm going to a doctor. I'm saying, hey, the part of the human brain that sees ghosts. Get rid of it. Get rid of it. Chop it out, buddy. Hi, GP, general doctor. No, general practitioner. Do you still do lobotomies?
Starting point is 00:53:18 Hello, Mr. Hardware Store owner. Give me one of your finest ice picks. Thank you. Looking at a brain, trying to figure out which bit's relevant to ghosts. Ice pick and a hammer. This is probably right. I'll just put it up
Starting point is 00:53:34 there. Tap, tap, tap. And then if you die doing that, which you probably would. You wouldn't know. You'd just be a ghost. You'd find another little boy to bother. Well then your unfinished business is that you see ghosts. I need to not see ghosts. Or was your unfinished business like cosmically you went to help ghosts,
Starting point is 00:53:54 and now you're dead and having to like ghost help everybody. And then you're stuck. It sounds frankly awful. Yeah, it sounds fucked up. And what we don't see after the Sixth Sense credits roll is that Cole's life fucking sucks forever. Yeah, that's true. That little boy will only know suffering. If you go to a deserted island,
Starting point is 00:54:13 they only help like crows, like the ghosts of dead birds. Yeah, and plane crash victims. And fucking boats. Go to the moon. No one's died on the moon. No one's died on the moon. Shockingly. Yeah, not yet anyway. That's bad. You're sitting there to the moon no one's died on the moon shockingly yeah
Starting point is 00:54:26 not yet anyway that's bad you're sitting there on the moon you've just lived there the whole time don't worry about it spaceship lands
Starting point is 00:54:33 astronaut comes out falls over dies ghost gets up are you kidding me oh my god Kong you're dead you died on the moon
Starting point is 00:54:42 you're here if that was your unfinished business surely that's alright you just step over the ghost into his rocket
Starting point is 00:54:49 close behind you start programming further I've got to find somewhere where there's no fucking ghost yeah I'd be sitting on Mars
Starting point is 00:54:56 like Dr. Manhattan I'm sick of this world I tire of these ghosts I am done and on that note I've been Joel I've been that note I've been Joel I've been Jackson and I've been Joel
Starting point is 00:55:07 don't see ghosts don't see ghosts yeah yeah hey uh here's my secret I don't see ghosts yeah I don't see dead people you think I see
Starting point is 00:55:12 do you see I saw a ghost yeah that's my thought no I just yeah I don't I see dead people and I fucking hate it yeah Kelly Joel Osmond's life
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