Plumbing the Death Star - Joel Zammit Comics America - Butter Rum the Horse

Episode Date: January 28, 2024

Jackson's got the covid and Zammit's getting nose and tongue surgery so we're taking a break! To read about that in full detail you can check out the news section of our website! So instead of a brand new episode, enjoy a stellar episode of Jackson Baly Spooks Joel Zammit Comics America that first aired in December 2023 exclusively for Bad Brain Boys+ subscribers! Usually Jackson takes his guests on a mystery of ghosts, ghouls and goblins but in this episode Zammit gave Jackson the gift of a having a break by hijacking the show to talk about a horse he read about in a comic book once.Links to everything in our linktr.ee including our terrible merch, social media garbage and where to become a subscriber to Bad Brain Boys+ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Jackson's COVID is taking it out of him more than we expected. And I'm prepping for nose and tongue surgery at the start of Feb. Turns out they are both terrible and need fixing. So plumbing is taking this and next week off. That said, enjoy a what if this week and let's call it, the latest episode of Jackson Bailey Spooks America, where I hijack the show to talk about a horse I love. Both shows are available to subscribers of Bad Brain Boys Plus through our website or through Apple Podcasts. So if you want some bonus content while you help support us, just head on over to sanspantsradio.com and slam that sign-up button. And for as little as a decently priced coffee per month, I think, you can worsen your thoughts.

Either way, I will see you in Feb. Hey, everybody. I'm Jackson Bailey. And welcome to another beautiful episode of Jackson Bailey Spooks America. I'm Jackson Bailey. Hey, Jackson. I'm Joel Zammett. And you need to shut the fuck up because we're doing Joel Zammett Comics America.

Yes. And I am Adam. I had nothing in the tank, so this is great news. Oh, this is good news. We're scraping the bottom of the barrel on spooky mysteries, ladies and gentlemen. We solved them all. We solved so fucking many of them. Now boys, have you ever heard of a comic book character called Butterum the Horse. The Marvel or the DC one?

Marvel, but I'm the horse. I don't know the Marvel one. I don't know. I know the DC equivalent. How many? I know. I couldn't think of one famous horse from comics. Really?

I can think of too many. The only famous horse I can think of is Supergirl's horse, Comet, whom is a man in a horse's body. Or at least has man thoughts. Yeah, I think he's a guy in a horse's body. Horses have man thoughts. Horses have horse thoughts. Horses are men.

Cows are women. Yeah, that is true. He is right. That's just science. That makes sense. We. Yeah, that is true. He is right. That's just science. That makes sense. We can't deny that, dude. That's exactly poodles are ladies. Give me a barnyard animal, I'll tell you.

Chicken. Chicken? Non-binary. Okay, fair enough. Dog. Dog? Dogs are boys. Goose.

Goose? Also non-binary. I think a lot of these animals Are going to end up non-binary Mule Mule Mule's a boy Mule is a boy

Goat What? Goat Goat Goat doesn't like to think about it But if pressed Will say boy Yeah

Okay That checks Duck Duck Ducks are The complicated gender identities Of the farmyard Ducks are The complicated gender identities of the farmyard Ducks are butch girls

This makes sense I think that's all the questions I have Tell me about Rob-a-Dob the horse Butterum the horse This is a story that involves Emma Frost Who at this moment in time was the White Queen And Firestar Otherwise named I think, is Angelica.

Do you remember? You might not have seen this, but when Spider-Man was, like, the first iteration on, like, a cartoon. Yeah. They were like, kids don't care about Spider-Man. He needs friends. Oh, yeah, where it was Spider-Man, Iceman, and I'm assuming Firestar. Firestar, okay.

And then, shockingly enough, I don't think Iceman and Firestar ever interacted in the comics until like three years ago. Did they put Firestar and Iceman together because they were like fire and ice? I think so. And spiders. No, who are these people? It's a Spider-Man. Peter Parker.

He bit by a radioactive spider, become a Spider-Man. I know that much. Iceman, Bobby Drake, who is a mutant and has the powers of ice. Yeah. What are the powers of ice? He can be ice and make ice. Okay, all right.

Slow down. Well, he can control things at a molecular level. Yeah. But ice things at a molecular level. Well, he can do anything, like air, basically, or water molecules.

So he can kind of just freeze. Can he control air or water in the air? Well, he kind of freezes it. So it would be water in the air. Okay. He's got access to water molecules. He's like an Omega-level mutant. He's like temperature control.

Yeah, yeah. Like he can slow. Omega-level mutant. It's an Omega-level mutant. Some mutants are a bomba big boy powerful. Yeah, right. And some are powerful level. Piss in a jar, dude.

Well, Omega-level mutants. They're on that Sigma grind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the Sigma level. Yeah, Sigma, yeah. But yeah, the Omega levels, because it was a thing of being like, Omega is like, oh, the most powerful thing. But then when Jonathan Hickman took over the Mutants a couple of years back, he was like,

the amount of meetings I think he had to just deal with, like, what isn't an Omega? That's very funny. Because he wanted certain definitions and they had to be like, no, we have to do this kind of stuff. So now it's like a person. Doesn't that make comics fun, though? Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Categories are awesome. Yeah, because everyone wants to know who's going to fight someone in a battle. Yeah, that's true. That's what we care about. It's not about who, you know, what does it make the story interesting. No, no, no. We want to know if Hulk is actually more powerful than Superman in any given situation. That is what I'm wondering.

Not about maybe just the person who's right anyway. Yeah. Tell me about Humbdom the horse. So this is a time when Xavier had competition of his schools. Okay. And not just like of like competition of like one state over. This is like the next town over in a way. Somebody else had started a

mutant school? Okay. It was the Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters. Yeah. And then you had the Massachusetts Academy. Who ran? Was that Emma Frost? Hellfireed Youngsters. Yeah. And then you had the Massachusetts Academy. Who ran? Was that Emma Frost? Hellfire Club. Hellfire.

Oh, okay. Those fucking guys. So this was when Emma Frost ran that as a school. Yeah. But she also ran it as a school. Oh, okay. And Underground. They love Underground. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Underground was where they did all their Hellfire bullshit. The Hellfire Club happened. Was this in the comic? Yes. Sorry, the cartoon? The Hellfire Club, yes. Yeah. That sounds familiar. Yes. The Hellfire bullshit. Was the Hellfire Club out of it? This and the comet? Sorry, the cartoon? The Hellfire Club, yes. Yeah, that sounds familiar. Yes, the Hellfire Club.

And they were a real club from history too. There was a Hellfire Club back in the day. Anthony Stark. Were there real mutants? They certainly worshipped the devil. The Hellfire Club is this secret society. And in comics it's always like- Who are they fighting?

They're good guys? They're bad guys? I think they're more like we just like power and money. Yeah. So they're bad guys. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're sort of-

And these sort of end in certain situations. Yeah. But more in large, they're just like, you know, the evils of capitalism. Yeah. Right. And yeah, so like the Half-Life Club, and that's what Emma Frost- The evils of capitalism. Yeah, right. And yeah, so like the Hellfire Club, and that's what Emma Frost, they also have... It's very funny to have a mutant strike team

that's going and doing a hostile acquisition of a company, but not like a euphemism. No, that is what they're doing, yeah. This is sort of what has happened recently with, so Sebastian Shaw, you might remember him from, say, the first class, played by beautiful Kevin Bacon. Sure oh yeah so he uh he's like the the i i i loathe to say this soon because i know adam is going to start mocking this so he's never the black king of the hellfire club you know we get the white queen and King No, no, you've got the Black King

The Black Queen And the White King and the White Queen Like their chests What year is this? And has segregation ended yet? Well, it's a chess reference It's a chess Chess thing

Oh, I get what it was meant to be Hey, Adam, it's still going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think currently maybe Wilson Fisk is the current white king of the Hellfire Club. That makes sense. He is a white king. I can see that.

I get it. So you have the Hellfire Club, which is like a lot of just like they're run by the inner circle, Which is like A lot of They're run by The inner circle Which is usually The black king The white

Just say their name It changes It changes dude Okay Well if you must And then There's a white bishop And black bishop

Is this better Why would it be better Because you know We're including More chess references. I suppose. Is there a black knight and a white knight? I guess there would be, surely. Black rook, white wook?

White wook? A right wook. Okay. So they have the Hellfire Club and with that in mind they have the Inner Circle which is the kind of ones that have all these machinations in play, and they're always trying to one-up each other and maybe kill each other,

and it's always a power grab. At this point, you've got the Black King is Sebastian Shaw, and you've got the Black Queen is Selene, who is just an old, ancient mutant who's just very evil, loves to kill. And you've also got the White Queen, who is now Emma Frost. Hey, I saw a thing on Twitter this is irrelevant, but about how in the womb

Yes. Is this about X-Men? Yeah, and Professor X ate his sister, but she still, even though she was a fetus, she grew up to be a person who lives in the sewers and she's gonna be in Deadpool 3?

Maybe not the sewers, but yes. What? Okay. So he eats. Cassandra Nova. Yeah, that is her. Presumably in utero. So in urine is a great scene.

It's so funny. There's a great scene? Yeah, the comic panels are so funny. Little Professor X baby fighting his sister in the womb, and then it's like big glowing psychic powers come from his eyes to kill his sister. That's crazy. Well, he does kill her. It's just that she comes back because of the psychic powers.

She ends up manifesting a body or something like that. Yeah, I don't know. Or some comic-y bullshit. She grows up in the sewers. I don't know if she grew up in the sewers. That's according to the tweet I saw. It doesn't get more legitimate than that. This is when Grant Morrison took over the X-Men.

He put that in play. That sounds like Grant Morrison. It sure does. And, like, yeah, so she takes control over one of, like, the Trasks or whatever, the guys who invented the Sentinels. Bolivar and Co.? Yeah, Bolivar and Co. Do you misspeak?

No. His name's Bolivar. Bolivar. Like Oliver with a B. Yeah. Bolivar is such a funny name. Yeah. No one's really named Bolivar, right?

No, Bolivar Trasks was. Well, other than him from fiction. Okay, Google. Famous Bolivars from history. You'll find at least two. I found this on the web. Is there a Bolivar? Well, there's people with the surname Bolivar.

Yeah. So maybe in honor of that person, he named himself Bolivar. Well, the parents would have named him. Could you be Oliver Bolivar? That's pretty funny. I suppose you could, yeah. Not that funny, though. Please go on.

Anyway, so Grant Morrison. Anyway, she did the whole big, this is when Genosha was a big kind of thing and Magneto was running it. She sent a sentinel there and just blew the whole thing up. What's a sentinel? The sentinel is those big-ass robots that like the hunt.

From the Days of Future Past Or whatever it's called Did I? I thought that was a Fast and Furious movie I'm not even joking I thought that was a Fast and Furious movie It does sound like it could be a Fast and Furious title Do you know why It's a total tangent

This is what it's like Do you know why All the Fast and Furious movies have fucked names Why? It's because the creator of the The first movie is based off something, and the owner of what it's based on owns the rights to numbered sequels. So they can't call it Fast and the Furious 2.

They have to come up with another fuck name, because they legally can't give it a numbered sequel. Is that another tweet? That's so funny. No, I don't know, actually. I could not tell you where I got this from. It's just a memory that came to the front of your mind. Just sort of bubbled to the surface, dude.

Like when there's a turtle deep under the water, you just see a little bubble come. Well, annoyingly, Jackson is very commonly right. Yeah. It's always half-remembered truths, but there's enough of a nugget there. Enough of a truth that I'm right. It is truly, yeah, a nugget of truth that you need to slew away.

You gotta get rid of the... Shaft. Yeah. You gotta separate the wheat and the cow. I was trying to think of what goes around gold. Gold? Rocks. Yeah, but I was trying to think of like...

The things you don't want. Slate? I don't know. Rock? I don't know. There's a word, but... I've never mined gold in my life. We'll never come across it.

No, alas. So anyway, so underneath the Massachusetts Academy is the Hellfire Club. Right. And so the Massachusetts Academy acts as... So this is like secret. Yeah. So the Hellfire Club is a huge... So what's the Massachusetts...

So that's an actual school. For real... For real people. Yeah, and not even mutants. Not even mutants. Oh, not even mutants. Oh. They do use it to kind of recruit mutants.

Okay. So while Xavier is like, I'm only taking in mutants, and these are going to be my X-Men, and I'm going to train them, the Hellfire Club are like, well, we need to run a school because I guess money, that's tuition, you idiot. Compatibly speaking, he's kind of running a segregated school, whereas the Hellfire Club are integrated. Yeah, that's true, in a way.

We're just going just run a school and then if any like mutants kinda pop up sick that's great we're gonna maybe grab them

and then be like hey do some evil capitalism join the Hellfire Club yes capitalism so at this moment in time the X-Men

had remember how this is associated to a horse yeah yeah he'll find out how a horse is relevant. My current theory is that it's like a mascot.

You know? I thought it was associated with Spider-Man, so I don't know what the fuck's going on. Yeah, okay. So at this moment in time, you had the New Mutants, who were like the junior team for the X-Men. And on the opposite side, the Hellfire side, you had the Hellions. And that was

their kind of evil teens. Their evil teens. So the evil team has an evil-er team? No, no, evil teens. So X-Force is the teen X-Men. New Mutants is New Mutants.

New Mutants is the teen X-Men. New Mutants. Itants who eventually become New Mutants is the team X-Men New Mutants and then Adam it's not that complicated Adam you have the Senior League X-Men

and then you have the Junior League New Mutants exactly and then you have Senior League I'm guessing the Hellfire Club

and then Junior League Hellions yeah okay alright I think I follow I think I follow yeah

very simple and so Emma Frost she's also a psychic. Like, she's a telepath. Can turn into diamond or something? Not at the moment. Okay. That's a future. That's a Morrison thing.

Whoa. Partly because he wanted to use Colossus, and editorial were like, he did, no. And he was like, fine, I'll just give Emma Frost the ability to turn into a diamond. And she's drunk. He didn't want Colossus. He just wanted someone who could go tough.

I guess so. He wanted a powerhouse. That's weird. Well, fair enough. Who are we to try and understand old Grant Morrison? No, thank you. They are an enigma of a person. Yeah.

Right. So that's the setup. Okay. So we're going to different teams. And so they're now kind of competing to find new mutants. And so they both have, well to find new mutants and so they so they both have well Xavier's got Cerebro

and Emma Frost has the I guess everything at her fingertips that the Hellfire has that money can buy okay cool

so she has like a big like a bank of just computer stuff okay yeah yeah I dig it I dig it that will just pop up

or some comic book computers where they can somehow have a camera at any location whenever they need I get it dude the dig it. And that will just pop up. Or some comic book computers where they can somehow have a camera at any location whenever they need. I get it, dude. The BPRD have something similar. It's a thing. It's a radar.

Maybe there's a little blip that's like, oh, yeah. And so there we bring that back to the hero of the story, Angelica Jones, Firestar. Now, she is a young girl of 14 years old. Her mom is dead. She's being raised by her father and grandma. And the grandma's like, you're very special. Look at that. Your hand has an M.

You're very good. M for very good. I don't know. Were you making that joke? No, they, like, you have, you look at your hand. Everyone has an M. I don't know, man. That means I'm going to get married.

Yeah, I know. It means you're going to get married. That's what the M means. It's an M. I don't know, man. That means I'm going to get married. Yeah, I know. It means you're going to get married. That's what the M means. It's like a M. I don't know. Anyway, they were like, hey, you've got a long, you've got an interesting life. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I guess it is like an M.

Jackson, for those of you at home staring at his palms. One of my palms is so different from the other. Huh. What do you mean? Well, this one's got... Anyway, it's not relevant. That's a different mystery. So, Firestar, she can emit microwave energy.

That's her ability. Cook a hot dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She finds out that she's like, I guess the very first use of her power, what like pings off Cerebro and the bank of computers that Emma Frost has access to, is that she accidentally heats up a chalky milk. Oh, that's cool. And then it explodes all over the principal's face. So she gets in trouble.

Okay. Is that, so wait, how powerful is this microwave power? Well, Emma Frost believes that she has the potential to be one of the world's most powerful mutants. Yeah, yeah. But currently, all she can do is she has no control over her power. And currently, she can, I guess, just heat up a choccy milk that makes it explode. Okay. Or a printable face.

Yeah, that's hot milk. It is hot milk. So Emma Frost, now, she wants her bad. She's like, I got it. We don't know who this kid is. We just got to know that there's a power thing just spiked off, and she want her badge She's like I gotta We don't know who this kid is We just gotta know There's like a power thing Just like spiked off

And I want her badge Okay Now You are Emma Frost You're like I know this This is

There's a power thing It's microwave thing I know this She's got the potential To be like a powerful mutant I run an organisation Like a potential organisation That is like you know

Evil mutants Sure sure sure, sure. Why do I want her? Why do you want this person? She could heat up a guy's brain. That's pretty good, yeah. I'm thinking she could maybe fry some electronics on an alarm. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's good.

So you can get a diamond or something. Now, like this person, because you've got a lot of different mutants out there doing all kinds of things. What do you think she's going to be the most perfect person? She's going to be the perfect what? I mean, if the microwave in the break room was broken, somebody had some noodles and he didn't eat it all. You won the money initially, I think. Oh, okay.

When you hear about the access you have to all your mutants, because now in your roster you currently have, I think it's Empath, who is like someone who can control someone's emotions. I think at that point you had maybe Warpath, who was just a tough, big, strong,

Native American lad. Okay. That's all the... That's all I got? That's all the Helions I can remember. Well, if that's all I got, then I just need more people

in the roster. I'll get who I can take. Just fill in out the ranks. Take the fish guy. How would it talk to fish? I do not... They don't say anything hopeful? That's fine. guy. Yeah. I would have talked to fish. I do not. They don't say anything helpful. That's fine.

It's fine. I need to fill out. You know, like a good chunk of Hylians. But I don't really know what they do because I don't care about them. They're not my precious X-Men. You say this horse might have mutant powers? I'll bring him down. Put him in the school.

Teach him math. Six times four. He learned math. Six times four. He learned math. This is one of those horses that can count. So would you think that, like, say, someone that can emit microwaves, the perfect, and I mean perfect, assassin? Yeah. Sure.

I don't know if perfect is quite right. Are you sure? But I could see that. That's the word everyone likes to use. Perfect assassin. I mean, it's really hard to defend against that in a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what?

Especially if you can do it. I heard victims from the inside out is what, I guess, Sebastian Shaw is like, this is sick. Do it. Fun fact, that's not how microwaves work. They don't cook from the inside out. They cook from the outside in. Well, I guess they'll find that out the first mission. Yeah.

Huh? I'd misunderstood microwave energy. Is that what Havana syndrome was? No, Havana syndrome is made up. It's not a thing. Okay. What is Havana syndrome? It was like a bunch of people at like a...

So the CIA... I'll cover this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't look like he's about to die. So a bunch of people at the CIA. i believe it began in huvana creatively enough the bunch of people from the cia uh like wet workhouse or whatever they had like an an operation there some of the people there started experiencing like weird symptoms i don't remember what all the symptoms are but they fun, they were any symptom because it's made up.

It's not real. I see. So it was like, oh, I feel slightly under the weather. I'm blaming it on outside foreign sources, but actually I just have a cold. Because enough people it was like hysteria, basically. And because a lot of these people were like really tough, manly men working for the CIA or whatever, they're like

well, I couldn't just be experiencing a panic attack. No, no, well, I couldn't just be experiencing a panic attack. No, no, no. I'm being attacked by microwave technology that Cuba invented. Even though we are incapable of creating this sort of technology. Cuba figured it out. Cuba somehow have figured this out. Cuba figured it out.

And then basically it just spread around to any freaking CIA operation base anywhere across the world and they would always say oh it's a Havana syndrome the Russians have secretly stolen or secretly gotten that Cuban

ray beam CIA guy gets a call from his wife being like honey when you come home can we talk and he's like the fucking Cubans

have got me there's no such thing as PTSD I'm stressed but my heart is my heart won't stop beating the Cubans damn damn Cubans have got me. There's no such thing as PTSD. I'm stressed. But my heart won't stop beating. The Cubans. Damn, damn Cubans.

Sounds like having a panic attack. Not a copyright. The Cuban ray beam is making me think of those people I killed in Nam. So a little sidetrack here because I just found out some of the members of the Hellions. So the first person you have, another beautiful name, is Buffard Wilson. Buffard Wilson. Code name? Buffard.

Buffard. B-U-F-O-R-D. Buffard Wilson. Is that Buford? Buford. Buford's a name. But it is a name. Buford, yeah. Buford Wilson. Code name? Beef. What's his powers? I'm guessing he's just a strong guy.

That's way less interesting. Yeah, just superhuman strength. And just, I guess he can get big. Yep. Size manipulation. That's awesome. Superhuman strength feels like getting, I mean, it's obviously one of the most useful ones. Yeah.

But as far as, considering that a mutant power can kind of be anything super strength is so boring. If it was super strength and we can be bigger that's pretty good. Super strength and he can grow. Is there anyone who's like

here's a fun variation on that I think. Completely invulnerable can never be hurt no super strength. Oh yeah. Anyone with super strength could just pin you.

They can't kill you but they can pin you. I'm sure that's been done before. Yeah, that'd be fun. Get handcuffed, you can't die. But you're not getting out of the handcuffs. I think that's fun. Yeah, I think that's good.

Unfortunately, we have Superman, who was just the best. So he kind of became the template for a lot of superheroes. Everybody's got to have a level of super strength. Super strength, super invulnerability and flight. It's like, oh yeah, what's that? They can punch good. They can make a punch good. Oh, and they can fly.

I would like super strength, but I work on no gravity rules. So if I punch you, I go flying backwards. Yeah, that would be fun. I think that'd be awesome. You then have Fabian Machal Julben, codename

Bevatron. Can he make beverages for people? Bioelectric blasts. I know electric. Then you have Sharon Smith, whose name is Cat's Eye, and I just want you to see the beautiful image of Cat's Eye. What's her power? She looks like a sad cat. She's like a manimal is Cat's Eye. And I just want you to see the beautiful image of Cat's Eye.

What's her power? Who looks like a sad cat. She's like a manimal. That's awesome. So you have Cat's Eye, who looks like a sad cat. It's also very great. Yes, you have Manuel de la Roca, who is empath, and the ability to, I think, manipulate your emotion with empathy.

Oh, yeah. You then have... That's funny because I don't think that's what that word means. That word means that you feel someone else's emotions, doesn't it? Yeah, to manipulate someone. But I guess you could manipulate someone else's empathy to make them empathic to you? I guess, yeah. Empathetic projection or something like that.

Yeah, I suppose. Feels the right way to say it. Haroon Ibn Salah Al Rashid, whose codename is Jetstream. I'm just guessing water blast power. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool. Thermochemical energy generation.

Of course. Well, of course. There we go. Got to make it scientific. Isn't it funny to think that if you got to say your... Jennifer Stavros. Whoa. Roulette.

Oh, is her power like... I'm guessing chance. Gambling. Gambling. Her power... My power is I have a system. Yeah, yeah. I've got to figure this out. Probability alteration disks. What?

Probability alteration disks? They can create disks of sonic energy. I love back in the day you could just write anything. Yeah, they make a disk. The disk alters the probability. Fucking let's do lunch. It's crazy to think if you got a mutant power that say turned you into a horse. Yeah. You're not

really a horse. No. You know? What do you mean? So if you're mutant power, you turn 18, puberty hits. Late puberty. Puberty hits. Puberty hits. Damn, horse. You look like a horse. You're not really a horse. No, you just look like a horse.. You look like a horse. But you're not really a horse.

No, you just look like a horse. You just look like a horse. Do you have the power of a horse? Well, you are just a horse. So, yes. But you don't really have a horse. You have the brain of a horse. You no longer have your brain.

You have the brain of a horse. And physically, you are a horse. So, your power is you've turned into a horse. Well, you're not a horse. But you are a horse. You are a bike. So, if someone did an autopsy on you after saying you died, you'd just be a horse. That's a horse. But cosmically, you're not a horse. Yeah, I guess cosmically, you're not a horse. What are a bike. So if someone did an autopsy on you, I would just say you died. That's a horse. But cosmically you're not a horse. Yeah, I guess

cosmically you're not. What do you mean? In the grand spiritual. No, wait, hang on. If they did a DNA test. Yeah. Horse or not a horse. Or maybe your science decides they're a horse. But the cosmic will of Samsara. Yeah. You know, you're not a horse. Your soul is not a horse's soul. No.

You're correct, but also I think. Well, actually no, he's incorrect because he's a horse. No. No not a horse's soul. No, you're correct. Well, actually, no, he's incorrect because he's a horse. No, but he's got a human soul. No, but also the blood would be mutant DNA. Yeah. So it would be like a sentinel would be like scanning a field of horses. Horse, horse, mutant. We're arresting you, citizen.

Not really what Jackson said. He said turn it into a horse and then science could decide from there is what Jackson said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you would have... If you have mutant DNA, then you're not a horse. You're just a guy who looks like a horse. Well, if you've got mutant DNA, then that's not what Jackson was saying. Correct. You're not 100% a horse. Yeah, but yeah, that's exactly. You're not a horse. Yeah, you're not a horse. You're a guy.

You look like a horse. I guess you have horse thoughts. You moved the goalposts for him. You look like a horse, and your DNA is horse. No, no, no, your DNA can't be horse. But you're not a horse. Because there are mutants who look like cats. Yeah, but they're not cats.

No, but they have the mutant DNA, right? Yeah, yeah. So they'd be like, but, you know. So what are you getting at? Go back to school with Rogers and get Canada's fastest and most reliable internet. Perfect for streaming lectures all day or binging TV shows all night. Save up to $20 per month on Rogers Internet. Visit Rogers.com for details. We got you.

Rogers. I think I've made my point. He has annoyingly, because once again, you moved the goalposts for him. He has annoyingly made his again You moved the goalposts for him He has annoyingly made his point Correct You were not He is now correct But even if your DNA

Was immune DNA It's still not a horse Correct You're a guy You just resemble a horse No It's like if a witch Turns me into a toad

I'm not a toad Now he's gone back And he's trying to reclaim No So Beak Who looks like He looks like a chicken He looks like a

Complete and utter like Yeah A guy who looks like a chicken. He looks like a complete and utter like... A guy who looks like a horse or just a horse? You're a guy who looks like a horse. You're not a horse. You're a guy who looks like a horse. What I'm saying, your mutant superpower is, atomically, you are gone, and a horse is now there. Atomically, everything, it's DNA, everything is a horse. That's not a mutant then.

No, no, no. You become a horse. So you look like a horse. Yeah., everything is a horse. That's not a mutant then. No, no, no. No, but you become a horse. So you look like a horse. Yeah. You change into a horse. And you have horse thoughts. Yeah. You got a horse brain, a horse's heart.

Why does that happen? Everything. It's your mutant ability, dude. Roll of the dice. This, I don't think it's ever happened. Well, it's the first time for everything. That's true. That's true.

This is Theseus' ship. Yeah. When does the ship turn into a horse? When does a man become a ship? A horse. And I would say when every atom, Theseus' ship. Yeah. When does the ship turn into a horse? When does a man become a ship? And I would say when every atom, at the very least, when every atom is the atom of a horse, it's no longer a ship. It's a horse. But he's got a man's soul.

That's almost irrelevant. I'm like, so in the history of- No, actually, definitionally, he has a horse's soul because that soul's attached to a horse. Yeah. Well, like, he wouldn't know. He wouldn't. No, he's got a man's soul. No, he's got a horse's soul because that soul is attached to a horse. Yeah. Well, like he would know. No, he's got a man's soul. No, he's got a horse's soul because the body is now a horse.

In the history of all comic book Marvel bullshit, I just can't think of any situation where a mutant has gotten the power where they just turn into an animal without retaining their own thoughts. Yes. own thoughts. The only way you could do this, if you get a telepath who then programmed that person to think that they were a horse, then you've got them. That's a separate situation entirely.

An awesome thing to do to someone. Get a shape changer, get him trapped in the body of a horse, make him think they're a horse. So that is, in terms of Marvel or the rules of mutantdom, I guess you could do it that way.

But I don't think you could by the roulette of, I guess, the mutant wheel. You don't think you could ever just become a horse? No. Why not? I think you'd be the person who's a horse, but they would have their own human brain. What do you mean?

You could never truly become a horse because you're still a guy. Yeah, but I'm saying you couldn't even be a guy who is a horse with horse thoughts. No. You'd be a horse, you'd look like a horse, but you'd have your own brain. Surely that could be a mutant power. Why could that not happen? What are the limitations?

Because you're a person, you're a human being. Yeah, but part of the mutant, your X gene goes wild and rewrites your brain to be a horse's brain. Surely that's possible. Why would that not be possible? Generally, it's all about, like, you know, you still retain your humanity. Yeah.

And that's the kind of whole point of it all. Like, even though, like, some mutants. It's disgusting to me. Even though, like, some mutants look all, like, fucked up. Yeah. Or, like, say, have, like, slugs for stomachs. Yeah, yeah. Cool. They still are at some level of sapient. Slugs for stomachs. Yeah, yeah. Cool. They still are some level of sapient.

Slugs for stomachs. Now that's interesting. Yeah, it is. And they did make it so dirty. They just didn't really use that. What level of power is that? What can you do with that? Well, they used, so again, common bullshit, right?

So beautiful slugs that would like, called Eenie and Meenie. He called them Eenie and Meenie. He had two slugs for a stomach. like, beautiful slugs that would, like, called Eenie and Meenie. He called them Eenie and Meenie. And they would be... He had two slugs for a stomach. Yeah, two slugs for stomachs. They would eat everything and he would get, like, power from that.

And so he would get, like, again, super strength, super bullshit. Okay, so his power isn't slugs for stomach. His power is what the slugs can do. His mutant ability is slugs for stomachs.

Yeah. So, the two slugs and they go out while they're big slugs. The mutant ability gives you slugs separate entities for guts

but it can't make you a horse I know and those gut like slugs they can go rogue yeah so so your stomach can just do its own adventure

your stomach could have been a horse could have been a horse why not a horse anyway speaking of horses yes rob a dog with a horse anyway oh yes and there's a couple other like

yeah who cares right so so they're currently wanting Angelica to be a top level assassin and so they go and they try both teams, both schools are racing to get to the do you want to have a guess how they both get there?

like physically? like on a bus or a plane? a bus so Emma Frost is getting there via Like physically, like on a bus or a plane? Yeah, yeah, yeah. A bus. Bus is pretty funny. Bus fare. So Emma Frost is getting there via... I'm going to say some kind of super jet. And Xavier is getting there via...

Also a super jet? Okay, you're right with jet, with Emma Frost. Xavier rocks up in a limo with Nightcrawler. I don't know who was driving. That's awesome. Well, I guess maybe he was... Why drive anywhere with Nightcrawler? Guy's't know who was driving. That's awesome. Well, I guess maybe he was. Why drive anywhere with Nightcrawler? Guy's an arsehole.

Just kidding. I don't know anything about Nightcrawler. Charles, I can teleport. If you want, I could teleport us. I want to take the limo. I want a little hat on. We want her to think we're rich. We want her to think we're rich. We want her to think we're rich.

So you think it's advised that you bring me, the one who looks like a demon? Put your little hat on. I look like a demon, Charles. Everyone will think we have Satan. And that's pretty good. Get in the limo. A jet's more impressive than a limo. He must have felt like such a fucking idiot when he turned up.

So Emma Frost gets there first because of course. Yeah. Come join my team. Come join my team. It's going to be great. So she is like, okay, you're going to be the best assassin. Well, she doesn't. She's got to be on the DL because Angelica, she want to be good.

She does. She's 14. Yeah, yeah. Fair enough. She's like, I don't want to just go willingly killing people. Yeah, yeah. So again, so what do you, how do you think Emma Frost is going to go about this plan? I guess you probably-

Is it mind control? Or like bring her into the school and just like slowly drop hints? The softball team's pretty great, but the killing people for capitalism team, we're going federal. We're going regional. Yeah. I don't know. We're going federal. We're going regional. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, so she does, like, a very classic, like, manipulation 101 or if, say, you join a cult.

Oh, okay. Sort of thing. Like, she really just does her best to ostracize and, like, really just isolate. Separates it from friends and family. Yeah, okay. Sure. So she keeps her away from, like, other students in, like,

the Massachusetts Academy, but also she keeps her away from other students in the Massachusetts Academy, but also she keeps her away from the Hellions. So there's very much a segregation there of like, well, you're too dangerous. And they constantly, constantly, like, you can't control your powers. You blew up that chalky milk. You're gonna just

destroy everything. Does that mean that Professor X arrived in the limo, like, late? Yeah Professor X arrived in the limo late? Yeah. He arrived in the limo maybe like half an hour too late. That's so funny. I can teleport and he showed up late. That's so funny.

He got caught in traffic. That's awesome. This is because you didn't put the driver's hat on. We would have gone fast if you'd done that. Generally, I don't know who was driving that limo. And the little coat. I don't know. was driving that limo. And the little coat. I don't know. Open the door for me.

Wolverine, I think. I think Wolverine was driving. So she keeps Firestar and Angelica away from the aliens and the animosity just builds up. They keep calling them a special case

over there. And there's just so much contempt. And they're like, oh, there's yours. She's too good for them. And so she's constantly telling Feister, she's too dangerous. But then she like love bombs the hell out of N'Jaku as well.

Because it's like, hey, you're going to get like a full on bodyguard the whole time because you're so dangerous. You're going to get like your best friend bodyguard and a horse. A horse named Butterum. Okay. She is also 14. The horse is 14? I just want to remind everyone, Angelica is 14. She's 14.

Remember this? She's just being manipulated like hell. So she has an adult man best friend bodyguard named Randall and a horse. Is the horse? Does the horse? On Massachusetts Academy. The horse is not powers. Okay.

That is what I was wondering. I was also wondering... I understand this, because there is precedent for this. There is a horse with superpowers in the Marvel Universe that gives... I think it's Captain Canada,

his superpowers. From a horse? Yeah. It's like, I'm a powerful person, and then it's revealed, I'm nothing, the horse is everything.

I'm a piece of shit it's all the horse what Captain Canada looked like a mountie yeah I think so yeah what horse

what uh never mind no question withdrawn yeah so yeah so she's really just love bombing

this young girl and like Emma's really just love bombing this young girl and it's just like right and then also doing this classic just like toxic manipulation like 101 and it's like well you know if you work

really hard and get control of your powers one day you are gonna maybe you'll make the team okay maybe you'll make the thing yeah yeah and so uh yeah so she gives also gives her like a like presence once again love bombing um but it's called the hallucinator. Any guess what that does? Does it make you hallucinate? Correct. So wait, is it like a device that she gives her? So she gives her a little bracelet.

Hallucinate whatever you want? No, no, no. She doesn't tell her this. So she gives her a little bracelet as a gift to come on. And then it's like, when she's sleeping, the hallucinator activates. And so she dreams of the X-Men being shitheads. That's so elaborate. Yes.

I need you to remember that Emma Frost is a psychic. Yeah. She could just do this. They really didn't need to give her the horse. There's a, there's a comic where Emma Frost psychically makes a person who, whenever they see male, sorry, whenever they see bear titties, they projectile vomit. Why does she do that?

Because that's fucking funny. He had a sex tape that he was trying to leak of Emma's. Okay. And she's like, I'm going to make you hate norgs, dude. And this is my punishment. It's every time you see some bear titties, you're going to vomit a lot. That's awesome. Yeah. So she's like, I'm going to make you hate Norgs, dude. And this is my punishment. It's every time you see some, like, bear titties, you're going to vomit a lot. That's awesome. Yeah.

So she can do that. Yeah, okay. Instead, she chooses this. All right. So, yeah. Did Sapphire want a horse? I mean, whatever her name is. Does Angelica want a horse?

Yeah. Yeah, she loves that horse. She did want a horse. She's like, this is the best thing. She's constantly riding that horse. That's great. She's late to class because she keeps riding that damn horse. She's too much time on the horse. Too's constantly riding that horse. She's late to class because she keeps riding that damn horse.

Randall is like, Angelica, you need to hurry up and go to class because you smell like horse. Oh, here's horse girl again. Smells like a horse's back. Yeah. So during training, and she can only train by herself,

because she's too dangerous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Emma Frost uses again and she can only train by herself. She's too dangerous. She's too dangerous. So Emma Frost uses the hallucinator to be like, oh look, it's Xavier's face in the thing that's attacking you. Maybe you should destroy it. Then she sends in a robot Wolverine,

which they have access to. They actually get robot Wolverine? Just a robot Wolverine. It looks like Wolverine. It's not like a robot like I am Wolverine. It's like a full-on life model decoy Robot Wolverine? They're just a Robot Wolverine. And it looks like Wolverine. It's not like a robot like, I am Wolverine. It's like a full-on life model decoy of Wolverine. That's so messed up that they have that. What do they do with it when they're not using it to manipulate a young girl?

Does it keep it in storage? Does it just look like Wolverine or does it have Wolverine powers? I guess it has the claws. Does it sound like Wolverine? Does it talk? I guess you could program it to talk. It's exceptionally strange. She sends in the robot Wolverine to attack her,

and she freaks out, and she goes to, like, again, she is 14. So she uses her powers. She's very reluctant to use it. She's so afraid of losing her job. So does she kill the robot Wolverine? So she goes to, like, stop it. And, yeah, the robot Wolverine just blows up, and she's like, oh, my God, I am traumatized.

Wolverine's a robot. Oh, she's, okay, okay. And, yeah, Emma Frost is like, I am traumatized. We're all friends of robots. Oh, okay, okay. And yeah, and Emma Frost is like, well, you got to do what you got to do, you know? Like he was coming for you. You did the right thing. It's a robot, but like you did the right thing. So does she not know this is a training scenario?

She knows it's a training scenario, but it's in a way of like, oh, the training's gone wrong. So it's like, oh, I'm doing these certain things. The training keeps going wrong. Man, this academy's fucking slack on her. You can, you know, huck these fireballs through this hoop

and have some fun there and she can also fly. You can fly, because once again, why not? Wait, who can fly? Firestar. She can fly because... Because her microwave powers. Fire, man. While the heat rises, think about air. Fire makes it go off. Heat rises. Think about it. And then it's like, as you're doing that,

oh, no, a Wolverine is breaking in. Oh, deal with it. Better kill him. Oh, it was a Wolverine robot. I wonder where that came from. Probably those freaking X-Men, I reckon. They always make them robots that look like they're guys. They do always make robots.

He's right. Yeah, that's true. So Angelica is like, oh, my God, initially, like, hold on, I just killed a man. And then she's like, don't worry, it's a robot. It must have, you know, just like, oh, the failsafe, Gwendal. I don't know. It's crazy. But, like, look, it's good that you did that because, well, you know, if a Wolverine does attack you, you should not hold back.

Yeah, yeah. He'll kill you. I guess I didn't hold back. That's pretty good. But then the reveal is that it had a self-destruct button that Emma did. She pressed the button to make it look like she killed a dude. Oh, okay. Because even though, like, she's-

But she didn't kill a dude. No. She killed a robot. Yeah, well, to make it look like she killed a robot, even though she didn't actually kill the robot. Because even though in a situation where Angelica thinks this is life or death, she will choose to like not do harm cause she's

so good cause she's 14 and doesn't wanna kill somebody yeah fair and Emma Frost is like well we gotta brainwash that out of her

could use my mind powers but instead well using the hallucinator already is not doing shit clearly robot trickery yeah what

yeah how does that make sense why not let the robot instead yeah put her in a situation that's life or death yeah yeah i guess maybe you don't want the robot to kill well you control the robot oh that's true yeah well they're putting the robot there which i guess i do control and they're like we want her to to just try and attack it and so i guess she goes to attack it but like in a non-lethal way. Yeah. And they kind of want to like exacerbate that to

be like, see? You can kill and that's good. But you're right. Yeah. Because it's like, well if I did this thing and that killed Wolverine, I guess I just do that again in that situation and then it'll, oh it didn't kill Wolverine. It's not great. I'm dead now. It's not great training. I know.

I know that we have already We are establishing We are in the process currently of establishing That Emma Frost is not very good at this Incompetent I would say But if I may add a separate incompetency That we haven't really properly addressed And that we were kind of verging on just now

Is that yes It feels like Emma Frost is P pushing to have this 14 year old be part of the team tomorrow yeah when that is not going to end well for emma frost yeah yes that seems like a great way to lose your new hellion yeah battle. The thing about cult brainwashing tactics is that they work over time. Yeah. So this is taking time. This isn't like

day one. But she's still 14. So it hasn't been a year. Under a year at least. Correct. This is, let's say, the course of, let's say, six to eight months. Okay. Yeah. Not a year, but yes. I guess they're really hurting for members, aren't they? Well, this is the, well, actually, they're not hurting for members.

Because they want to use her as the perfect assassin. That's what they keep saying. And then they want to try and kill. Got all these people going on assassinating. I know. We got, who have we got? We got Beef. Beef's not the perfect assassin.

Beef's the terrible assassin. Beef just gets big. When we've got a person who looks like a cat. Yeah, what do they do? They're sad all the time. The president of Bolivia keeps standing on these podiums, giving these speeches. Finally we had someone who had microwave powers.

Yeah, cook them from the inside out. Did you know that actually microwaved? From the outside in. Doesn't matter how they cook them. As long as they cook. As long as they fucking die. So then it's revealed that actually it's not about an assassin. It's about assassinating one individual person, which is the Black Queen, Selene.

Because Shaw wants them dead. Okay. And they're realizing that, well, because Selene is a very powerful mutant, it's kind of like, it's a bit of a suicide squad of one. Oh, I see. I see. She's a bit disposable. Okay. of one. Oh, I see. I see. She's a bit disposable. Yeah, okay.

Disposable. Disposable. So it's kind of like, well, yeah. Well, withdrawn previous statement. This is quite clearly very important. This is the smartest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, yeah. So it's like,

the thing is they're putting so much resource into this one person to go up against a very powerful person that will kill them and with the hope that they will take them out. It's a lot of what ifs. It's a lot of what ifs. Very quickly, Selene, did you say?

What is her move set? What are her powers? What are her powers such that we need this? Microwave abilities. I assume, just at a base level, she's bulletproof. Because as history has shown us, a bullet pretty good way. I killed her recently.

Okay. But yeah, so is Amber Frost looking at her and being like, this woman needs to be microwaved. I don't think a microwave is going to kill her any more than a bullet. So long as she's not bulletproof. This is a really crazy, like, why not? So she's very old she was okay Father time figure I want out. She was born

Boring an age External sorry a different thing You don't need to know That sucks No, that's good, you don't need to know that You don't need to know what external is It sucks even hearing what I've heard What little I know

is awful Yeah, so life force absorbs them, so she's a psychic vampire Okay Physical enchantment, super strength Yeah, so life force absorbs them, so she's a psychic vampire. Okay. Physical enchantment. Super strength. There it is.

Super stamina, durability, reflective speed, telekinesis, pyrokinesis, telepathy, immortality, rapid healing, resurrection, psychic link, sorcery, dark force, or shadow manipulation. And she can speak Latin. I do not understand how microwave powers will kill this woman any better than anything else. I can manipulate shadows. Check this shit out. Oh, my God. He's making a dog. He's making a dog.

You got one mutant power. Oh, my God. What's the lowest level? Beta. Beta level mutant. My mutant power Is vision manipulation If I don't have These glasses on

The world around me Becomes blurry So Now this comes to Like you know The piece de resistance Yeah Everything is now

Pinning on this one event Okay And it is a dance Oh Okay Cool The Massachusetts Academy Is now hosting

A dance that Frost lets her go Like Frost lets Firestar go to Because she's like, well, you've been good. Once again, it's the whole treat them nice kind of thing and love bombing. Yes, Adam? Question, Professor. So if you're making an assassin to assassinate one person and you plan on this assassin only assassinating this one person ever. And then they are killed.

That is your plan. And you want to train this person because they're reluctant to kill people. Who would you train them against? What face would you want them to kill? Professor X, baby! At all three! That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, baby. At all three. Correct.

That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we kind of keep using them. Yeah. Yeah, it's very good. Not Celine's face. No, no, no, no. That would make no sense.

Wait a minute. That wouldn't be clever at all. Wait a minute. I think this is a bad plan. So anyway, it's a dance. Yeah. And so it's like, well, you know, she's got to go to dance. You've got to get in.

You've got to trim a little bit nice. Yeah, of course. Maybe there's a bit of hope there. And so the new mutants over at Xavier's school, they get wind of the dance coming up. And Xavier's like, well, not even crash. You're young. You're hip. You can go.

Oh, okay. It's like a mutant mixer, basically. He's like, well, it's a mutant mixer, but there's also, I guess, other people from the Academy. Okay. They know about this. The X Academy know about it. Oh, yeah.

They do. There was a recent scuffle. So is Professor X kind of being like, well, go over there, have fun, but if shit gets real, you can fight the hell out or whatever. None of you do any Romeo and Juliet shit. Remember the number one rule of the X-Men, don't fall in love. Anyway.

Colossus, you can go and chaperone. Take, let's say, Storm. So yes, I think it's Storm and Colossus or something. They go and chaperone the new mutants as they mingle with the Hellions and other people from the Massachusetts Academy. And oh no, I guess even though you're not meant to fall in love, as Professor X said, she hits it off. And Angelica hits it off with Cannonball.

Oh, I see. Sam Gunthery, who is also actually another external. But you don't want to know that. I really don't want to know what an external is. Anyway. And this is- I guess they't want to know what an external is. Anyway. And this is – I guess they're called eternals, not internals. It's externals.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. Yeah. So they go for a walk. Yeah. And they, you know, oh, maybe some smooches. Okay. But love isn't here.

And so this is when – so I guess, look, I've got both of these. So you've manipulated an event tonight. You're like, this is what we'll get, finally. Without a shadow of a doubt. Angelica on my side. There'll be no doubt. She will basically belong to me. Okay.

This event, this mixing with people of her own age from my sworn enemies. This is when she's going to become loyal. You're not trained against any of these people. No, no, no, no, no. I'm going to use this. This humanizing event with my enemy. I'm going to use this. Maybe this is when she has her first kiss.

I'm going to use this. I'm going to interrupt this. And I'm going to like, you know, really, because remember, she's been telling her that she can't control her powers at all. So how do you think this night will go? Oh, she's going to kill the dude she's smooching. that she can't control her powers at all. So how do you think this night will go? Oh, she's going to kill the dude she's smooching. Yeah, but I would be, you know,

imagine Havana Syndrome is real for a second, and there is a laser. You aim it at that guy's head, and when they smooch, you explode his brain, and she thinks she blew his brain up with their kiss. That would probably be my strategy. Psychically make her think she did. So that's in a very intense way.

Maybe actually probably a better plan. So say, okay, let's go with that. Maybe a bit too intense. All right, fair enough. Maybe you don't want to say, okay, let's not kill another teenage boy. You just burn his brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're going to interrupt the smooching. Yeah.

And then we're going to be like, how dare you put this young boy's life in danger? You're so close to that stable where your beautiful horse, Butter Arm, is and you know you can't control your powers. And would you look at that? That stable is on fire. Okay. They burned the horse to death. So then young Angelica rushes to the stable.

Yeah. She sees Butterum. Okay. She's like, oh my God, Butterum, he's alive. Oh, thank God. So she grabs Butterum and she takes him and rescues him from the stables. You are Emma Frost. What's your next move? I guess I gotta kill

that horse. Okay. But I don't... I guess I wanna... Someone's gonna die. I gotta set the horse on fire from afar somehow? Who's the stupidest person to kill in this moment? Yourself. Look what you did! Emma Frost

psychically snaps her own neck You did this somehow Also really quickly Because I'm not going to be able to keep telling you You gotta kill Selene I would probably try and kill that horse Yeah yeah And how would you go about doing that

To make it look like Angelica's responsible Like some kind of long distance flamethrower Would you say Psychically give that horse a heart attack? Because, boys, you do. Oh, my God. Look at that horse. Read the text. So, butterum.

So, no sooner do they outrace the hungry flames, then the great horse suddenly begins to convulse violently gasping for air Firestar, what is it Bodorom, what's wrong with you and then the very next scene Bodorom

as the horse thump to the ground from a heart attack wow that's awesome I guess she's not doing an autopsy but like to the ground from a heart attack. Wow. That's awesome. I guess she's not doing an autopsy, but like a heart attack. Like I wouldn't think that had anything to do with.

I don't think I did that. I mean, I wouldn't know the horse died of a heart attack, but it's not on fire. Well, he did cause the stables to go on fire, which, again, Emma Frost had previously rigged to ignite. Yeah, but then with the- Rigged to ignite? Why? She's allowed there.

No, no, no. She'll be like, it's all part of the plan, Adam. It's all part of the plan. She's a young teen. Her hormones are flying. I mean, just like go in and set fire to the barn. But why? At the same time that she's about to smooch i set fire to the stables causing the

the beloved butter rum to freak out and then when angelica saves it and she thinks all is fine the horse will die from a heart attack but it's the because it's scared of the fire because yeah like the heart attack i would just be like that's like an unfortunate side effect yeah like that's just a scared. That's got nothing to do with me. Well, I mean, there's fire scared. I guess I scared the horse. It really feels... So you're on my side now?

You reckon I got Angelica? I don't know what Angelica would be fucking thinking. Is Hookline in secret? You're giving the girl horse trauma. That's what happens. Oh, yeah. I don't understand why you're being like, you can use your powers because it can save your life.

But also if you use your powers, your favorite horse dies. I don't understand what the fuck the messaging is here. It feels like it's either all don't use your powers or all do use your powers. Why not set the horse on fire? Why give the horse a heart attack? Give her a clearer connection between her powers and the dead horse. Like, yeah, if you don't control your powers, anything will light up. So even your beloved horse will catch fire and die.

Absolutely. So if you're in a situation, say, with, I don't know, someone who's trying to harm you or someone you like, and then say someone else, like, say, I'm in the room or whatever, you need to be able to control your powers and then make sure that they only hit the person that we want to hit. Yeah. Adam, you have a question? Mr. Professor Zammetser, I have a quick question. Yes.

So, first off, delightful images that you showed us just now. Yeah, wonderful stuff. hit yeah adam you have a question professor's amateur i have a quick question yes um so first off delightful images we that you showed us yeah wonderful stuff of the horse having a heart having a heart in the throes something i didn't realize i wanted to see in that comic uh it's a four issue run and there is two heart attack scenes one is of firestar's uh grandma dying and it's also great yeah and then you get a sweet bonus of a horse having a heart attack, which is just like... I'd say the grandma is the sweet bonus. The horse heart attack

is the main event. Does Firestar connect the two heart attacks? No, they're not connected. Okay. But my question is... Well, actually, my question is in two parts. The first one is, how dare you hide a horse heart attack panel from us for so long? Well, it had to be the grand reveal.

The second one is, is there an additional panel of Emma Frost, two fingers to temple, with little rays of psychic projection? How do we know that she heart attacked the horse? I believe you when you say that. Me too, but how do they show it? Yeah, I, yeah. I want to see. And this, I've always, because I was like,

I don't understand how they're doing this. Because, like, so what they do is like. Sorry, third question. Just realize, why doesn't Emma Frost do that? Yeah, why is she not the assassin? Yeah. Maybe because a horse's heart is bigger,

it's easier. Yeah, you know, you can psychically give someone a heart attack. Maybe horses are easier to spook as well. Yeah, that's true. So maybe that makes it easier. Could you affect the mind in such a wayically give someone a heart attack. Maybe horses are easier to spook as well. Yeah, that's true. So maybe that makes it easier. Could you affect the mind in such a way that you make a heart attack happen? Yeah, I guess maybe like something really scary.

Yeah, I suppose. Like a heart racing. And so you get this beautiful scene, a little, I guess, like an epilogue of this beautiful horse death, is that Emma Frost looking at, I guess, the barn on fire, comforting Firestar with her like thinking like thought bubbles and everything

that is like no matter what she thinks of this night no matter what she will always remember that I was the one who could comfort her which I don't think

is true I think she's gonna remember butter from the dust dying that's what she's gonna remember I think that'll be

her big memory no matter what she will like remember remember. Yeah, I think that'll be her big memory. Yeah. She's like, no matter what, she will remember that I was the one. I was the hero here that comforted her. I hugged her from arm around her. And as she's thinking this, she's like, even though I caused the horse to have a heart attack, and I'm the one that set off the charges. And then they have Cannonball.

Yeah, he is just around. Looking in the woods kind of scene. Just looking from the sidelines, from the tree lines. Looking kind of horrified, as if he could read her mind. His powers is that he becomes a human cannonball. When you say a human cannonball... Like he bounces around? No, he becomes, I guess, a human rocket. I guess that's more of a...

Does he turn into a ball? His leg, no. He becomes like... Well, that's a dumb name. Do his legs become... Like a jet? Yeah. So you kind of get like a jet from where he's like waist down and he zooms around.

He's truly obsessed. He's nigh invulnerable when blasted. That's his catchphrase. Does he bounce around? No, no, no. He's invulnerable. Where is he getting the name cannonball?. Does he bounce around? No, no, no. He's invulnerable. Where is he getting the name Cannonball? A cannonball doesn't bounce around.

Cannonball absolutely bounce around. Don't they just ricochet? It's not like bouncing like a tennis ball. I suppose it would, yeah. True, true, true. But he's in no way acting like a cannonball. He should be called Rocketworks. Yes!

I guess sometimes he's drawn with legs. Sometimes he. Yes. Yeah, well, there's like something. I guess like sometimes he's drawn with legs. Oh, he made it to the modern comics. Yeah, he's great. I wouldn't, I would have, if I were. You would have done the activity. I probably wouldn't. He's great.

I probably would have made a new guy. Notice even in the modern ones, he still doesn't, a cannonball. Yeah, he's called Cannonball. He married a Shi'a. No, well, he married a Smasher who was like. A Smasher or Smasher? Well, it's called Smasher, which is like the Shi'a Imperial Guard. But Smasher is like.

Shi'a? Shi'a. They're bird aliens. It's an internals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let it be. I don't need to know. Let's think of like space birds. It's an internals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let it be. I don't need to know.

Let's think of like space birds that are humanoid. When you say space birds, do you mean birds from another planet or do you mean birds that are in space? Well, I ask more questions. Both, I guess. Both. Well, they are like bird people. Well, they evolved, I think, from birds. They evolved from birds.

Because like how we evolved from monkey, they evolved from birds. They evolved from birds on another planet? Yes, on another planet. And they are also in space. But they're probably not really birds, hey? Yeah. Yeah, I guess. Do they flap their wings in space?

Some have wings. Some? Yeah. Always been not entirely true. But not all. Not all, yeah. Not all, but they're birds. But some have wings.

They look like people with, like, feathers for hair. Anyway. Charles has a kid with one. That's awesome. So when they fly, do they fly? Some of them. The ones with wings fly. Well, Death Bird is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.

She's a superhero? No, she's Alandra's sister. I don't want to know. Alandria? Alandra. Alandra's sister I don't want to know Alandria Lalandra

Lalandra every question is a sort of spiral deeper and deeper anyway so Smasher is

kind of like a code name Smasher was a diversion yeah it was like the title of one of the guards so it's like

I'm a Smasher class and I get those like one of the Shag. So it's like, I'm a smasher class, and I get those like- One of the Shag gods. Shag gods. It's like a humanoid. Like a human actually becomes a smasher, like the first human to join the Imperial Guard. Anyway, Cannibal marries her.

They had a kid together. That's pretty cool. But then recently Cannibal died. Nimrod got him. But he should be back soon. Nimrod? Nimrod is like a sentinel. But that's like a name- Yeah. Like you call it- soon. Nimrod? What are you doing? But that's like a name.

Like a Nimrod is an insult. Well, only because of Bugs Bunny. Yeah. But that was a long time ago. Nimrod is like a hunter. Isn't he a guy from the Bible? No. Like mythology. I thought he was from the Bible.

I don't think he's from the Bible. Mythology? Or something like that? He's a very good hunter and so calling like, uh, Alma Fudd like Nimrod was kind of like, It was sort of ironic.

Ironic, but we did no idea. No, no, no. So we just start calling people Nimrod like an idiot. Well, if something like idiot, if something like idiot started out

as whatever, like a hunter, and then culturally we now mean, say idiot, to mean an idiot. Yeah. Uh, even if I called, even if my name...

I'm guessing Nimrod's like from, he's like a mortal or some shit. Well, he's a sentinel, but from the far future. What are you doing? You got to stop asking questions. And the sentinels are the robots. If we want to get out of here before dinner time, you got to stop asking questions. We got to just be happy that we learned about a horse having a heart attack.

So, yeah. So, that's the story of Butterum, the horse. Yeah. The horse who had a heart attack to manipulate a young girl so she could assassinate Celine. That's beautiful. Did she assassinate Celine? No, no, no. So, all of that.

It's for nothing. Horse died for nothing. On that note, I've been Joel. I've been Jackson. I've been Adam. Get comic America. Hell yeah. Go back to school with Rogers and get Canada's fastest and most reliable internet.

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