Plumbing the Death Star - We've Got Pokemon, We've Got Digimons, What Other Mons Could There Possibly Be?
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Welcome to this week's episode of Plumbing the Death Star, where we ask the important
questions like, we've got Pokemon, we've got Dig digimon what other mons could there possibly be
this is a great it's a great question you got digital monsters you got pocket monsters
so what other mons can there be?
Because really what makes them on the mon is the mode of transport, right?
Okay.
So it's digital or in your pocket.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you've got to think, well, how else can we transport these mons?
Yeah.
Okay.
I propose public transporter mon.
Yeah.
Okay.
Great way to catch you,
to,
to,
to move your mons around.
You play as a bus driver.
All right.
So wait,
we'll take one step back.
Cause I feel like that there's going to be some clear categories here.
Building your own mon.
So transport,
which is where the name comes from.
But then we're going to have like,
I guess like how they evolve
because both Digimon and Pokemon evolve.
They can either Digivolve or regular.
I mean like leveling or
Digi... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How they evolve. Sure. And I guess
how many there are and how
you catch them. How you fight them.
How you make them fight.
How you yourself fight them.
Depending on how your mon operates. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Some Digimon stuff, you make them fight. Or how you yourself fight them. Depending on how your mon operates.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Some Digimon stuff, you wear them.
That's true.
Well, see, I was thinking, you know,
I was thinking motormons, like a public,
not public, you've chosen public transport.
Public transport is great, but I was thinking like a car.
Yeah, okay.
Carmon.
Yeah.
Well, the thing is, yeah, more of a motormon,
because also then you can have like the DLC,
which is like on the water, so you have a boat. Yeah, yeah. And motor mon, because also then you have the DLC, which is on the water,
so you have a boat, and in Sky, where you have a plane.
Already starting with the DLC.
Planning the DLC before the core idea is brilliant.
Not enough games should happen like that.
Is this a game, or are we making mons in real life?
I was already trying to come to terms
with Jackson's public transport
public transport mon is great, but I reckon
motor mon is also good because then you have
like water motor mons.
It's gone. It's been taken from you.
It's like gas. It's ash. It's in the sky.
You got water motor mons, you got sky motor
mons, and you got ground motor mons.
All great mons.
I just feel like I'm sitting in an office.
And some people just kicked over my door.
And just started screaming at me.
And I don't understand what is happening at all.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
What do I mean?
It's very simple, Dusha.
We've got public transport mons
We've got mono mons
We can bring it to the table
And we can discuss it as we go along
We'll let you think about it
And I'll explain public transport mons
Okay
So you play as a bus driver
My one is a game, yours doesn't have to be
It could be an anime, like regular Pokemon Or maybe Digimon You play as a bus driver, okay? My one is a game. Yours doesn't have to be. It could be an anime, like regular Pokemon or maybe Digimon.
You play as a bus driver and you collect the mons like you collect passengers.
But they're not passengers, they're mons.
I.E. monsters.
I'm back.
I understand what you're saying.
You're a little boy, 10 years old.
Your mother says he's your boss.
Bus driver's license.
Yeah.
Well, it's kind of like in Pokemon, You get a Pokeballs when you're a 10.
Okay.
No, it's your special day.
Your mom's like gives you a thing and then you got to go speak to Professor Oak.
We're in this.
You get to give a boss driver's license.
You got to go to Professor Oak and speak.
Hi, I'm Professor Bus.
Everyone's called Bus.
Welcome to the exciting world of public transport-a-mons.
Bus-a-mons.
Yeah.
And then you, well, you could, you start with a bus, but like you have water-a-mons and ground-a-mons, you will eventually get tram-a-mons. Bus-a-mons. Yeah, and then you start with a bus,
but like you have water-a-mons and ground-a-mons,
you will eventually get tram-a-mons.
Well, they're all public transport.
Tram-a-mons, you got bus-a-mons, you got train-a-mons,
you got barge-a-mons if we have like a public transport that's a barge.
It would just be PT-mons and then you don't call folk.
I think that's where you lost me originally.
Because if there's a bird Pokemon, that's not a Birdemon.
Or maybe it could, but who knows?
Because in public transport... So it's like how you can have a Mega Ball or a Water Ball or whatever.
Or a Net Ball, I think they're called.
It's like some public transport-em ones you can only catch with a tram.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're waiting in a tram
stop. Yeah, exactly. And some you can only catch
with a taxi or whatever.
Or an Uber or like one of them rickshaws
that people go around public parks
in. Would a PTMO be like, say,
the rickshaw type or would it be like a tram
type? I think it would be
about kinds of public
transport customers rather than the public transport they use. You know, so like it would be about kinds of public transport customers
rather than the public transport they use.
Yeah.
You know, so like it might be like too many baggings.
It might be one.
And that's like it's like a public transport one.
It's got too many bags.
It's a sort of visuals for it.
Yeah.
And that one you could probably catch with either a bus or a tram or a train,
but probably not with a taxi.
Or I guess you could
with a taxi.
In fact, taxi would probably be optimal.
Maybe taxi is a late game thing that you can get.
So,
are these just guys?
No, they're monsters.
You're capturing mons.
It's a mon.
It's a mon.
What is he not getting?
I don't know Yeah
Please
Do they look just like guys
Or are you talking like
No I'm imagining that
Too many bag and Z
Looks like it's got chimpanzee legs
Coming out of the bottom
Yeah
And then almost like
It's like you don't see the top half
It's just too many bags
Yeah
That's kind of what it looks like
And the way you catch it Is you've got to go up to it
in an appealing enough public transport for it to get on.
And then it's like, well done.
You caught too many Bag and Z.
I don't know how you make them fight necessarily.
Maybe they fight on your bus.
It's kind of like if you drove around Pokemon in a Pokeball, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or you can get out and then I guess you fight.
Yeah.
Other people in their Like buses
Well maybe
The way it works
Is kind of like
Ships at sea
In pirate times
Okay
So your bus
And the rival's bus
You kind of like
You kind of like
Drive near each other
And your mons
Fight their mons
Through the windows
This sounds cool
Yeah right
See I think
Mine and yours
Are quite similar
With like the
motor mons because you could have like the pt as well as you know i'm like a car it's like yeah
yeah yeah you know it's very very similar because i was imagining the same thing with like say with
with the car like i reckon you probably start not 10 at 16 that's your license that's fair that
makes sense and he's like well done here's your license you gotta do a test and you go through
that um so at that point you can only have maybe three different Mons
because you have to have your instructor in the car as well.
Yeah, that makes sense.
And then when you finally get 18 and you actually have your full license,
then we can have four Mons and you as a driver.
Is this real life or a video game?
It can be both.
It can be both.
Yeah?
Okay.
Because two years is a long time in real life.
In a video game, two years is a long time in real life.
In a video game, two years could just be... But it's so meaningless.
It means nothing.
It could be both.
What?
Jackson, you've got to understand that to get to this point of the episode,
I've just had to let everything fly.
It could be both.
It could be both.
Maybe instead of starting with a car, actually,
you should scooter.
Yeah, or a bicycle.
And then you can only have one... In the basket., you should scooter. Yeah, or a bicycle. Yes.
And then you can only have one...
In the basket.
...motor-mon, but it's a small motor-mon.
Yeah, or I guess you could have two.
You could have a little one in the basket and a man-sized one on the dinking on the back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then slowly you upgrade until you're at like a plane or whatever can have the most...
Yeah, yeah.
Because you can go from like, say, a two-seater car, then you go to like a five-seater car,
then you could maybe
get like a minibus limousine limousine if you want yeah what's good what piece of public transport
or transport or thing with a motor can have the most people train surely yeah i was either train
or a cruise ship oh yeah cruise ship definitely beats train yeah yeah yeah yeah this is a complicated game though because i guess once you reach cruise ship. Oh, yeah. Cruise ship definitely beats train. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is a complicated game, though,
because I guess once you reach cruise ship level,
you're fighting other cruise ships, right?
You're fighting cruise ships or, in essence,
running a cruise ship for months.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is its own entire game.
Yeah, well, this-
So it's a game again now.
Or both.
Or it could be real life.
It could be both.
Because it could be the kind of thing where it's-
It could be an anime, I don't know.
Yeah, it could be less of a fighting thing
and more like you collect the mons
and the more mons you have, the more powerful your bus is.
That's true.
But you have to make sure they're happy on the bus.
Yes.
You know what I mean.
Are they going somewhere?
Well, like when they're in the poker ball in your pocket,
where are they going?
With you.
They're coming with us.
Okay.
The biggest problem I'm only seeing, JD, that you're not
is that what if, say, a Mr. Mime
takes the wheel? Then it's
mons driving mons and I don't know what's gonna happen.
That's why you have to treat your mons with respect.
That's true. You have to make sure the bus is good
so they don't take the wheel off you
and hijack the bus.
So when people catch public
transport or get in a car, they're going
from A to B. When mons are yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But get in a car, they're going from A to B.
When Mons are, yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's my car, yes.
He gets to decide where he goes.
The boss I'll give you.
We're fighting other Mons.
So, okay.
So I get in my car with my Mons.
You get in your car with your Mons.
We go to, I don't know, the Macca's car park, and then we fight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Same thing with Pokemon. You get a Pokemon and a Macca's car park and then we fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Same thing with Pokemon. You get a Pokemon and a Pokeball you put in your pocket.
And then you go somewhere to a gym
and you fight. Same thing. We drive the cars
into the gym. So your car works
like a Pokeball. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Instead of a gym, it's like a depot, like a boss depot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like the king of bosses.
In Digimon, they have something similar, I can only assume.
They're kept in a computer, basically.
Digimon, digital monsters, Digimon are the champions.
No, because the kids get sucked into the computer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Changes everything.
Yeah, that's why they're digital monsters.
So the kids are, in a way, digital monsters too.
So yeah, you just got to understand that like, so in Pokemon,
you catch a Pokemon.
That Pokemon wasn't going anywhere.
It's just you've caught it and then you're befriending it.
Kind of like buying a dog.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if an ape is holding too many bags and gets on a bus,
I'm assuming that that ape wants to go somewhere.
It's an ape though.
It's an ape.
Well, it's a too many bags ape.
Yeah, does a chimp want to go anywhere?
If it's waiting for a bus, probably.
No, that's a fair point.
That's a fair point.
A mob used to be waiting around its natural environment
and you just have to drive around that bus stop.
Okay, so...
And also, I guess for all my mons,
they kind of need to be humanised shape
or at least be able to buckle in.
Yeah, do you have types? Safety's important. Do you have types of your mons? I think you need to be humanized shape, or at least be able to buckle in. Yeah. Safety's important.
Do you have types of your mons? I think you would have to
have some type, especially if you want to get into, like, you know,
the water motor mons and the sky motor mons.
Yeah, that's true, that's true. So you need to be flying and at least
swimming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I guess my
types, again, would be based on the kind of,
like, you could only catch some with certain public
transports, you know, like, sailors, you could
only catch with boats or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or, like, plane people, you could only catch with boats or whatever yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah or like plane people you can only catch with planes birds not plane people yeah yeah yeah
those guys are just standing in the sky these guys are only traveled by plane yeah well that
don't mean they need to be like an actual person but then you can't be like person
person shape like a like a hippo champ well you, you've got to put a seatbelt on. Ah, that is true.
You'll put a seatbelt on like a dog.
Or like in a wet bag of shit or whatever.
I don't know.
Who cares?
If you're going somewhere with like a garden gnome,
you've got to strap it in.
That's true.
You can strap it in.
But that is human shaped.
Mainly makes you think.
Is it?
It's not.
Well.
No, I think a garden gnome is just a cylinder with a point on top, Really makes you think Is it? It's not Well No
I think a garden gnome
Is just a cylinder
With a point on top
But they've just painted a face
That is true
What is man
But not a cylinder
With a pointed head
And a face painted on it
Is that not
Is that not man?
No
Behold
A man
Unvowable
No that's a garden gnome
And if I was to remove the paint that is not even human shaped
It's unrecognizable
Cylinder point face somewhere on there
It's humanity
That's man baby
Okay well yeah so my types would be the kind of
Different public transport users
Or just ones that you could only pick up
With that kind of public transport.
So you can't pick up a jellyfish with a car.
No!
Of course you're going to pick up the jellyfish
with what I'm assuming you're going to say is a cruise ship.
Yeah, exactly.
Or a dinghy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I guess you would have to have type advantages.
Yeah, well I was thinking something like
late for businessmen.
And so someone who's always
in a rush, and if you're speeding
that is great for it. Oh, I
see! And again
you're trying to keep the happiness level of these
mons up, you know, so you don't want them
to steal your car and abscond with all
the other mons. Maybe you are taking them somewhere
like Dusha said in mine. Maybe that is
part of it. You drive somewhere
while you're driving you can fight with them, but you do have to take them to their destination eventually.
So it's just crazy taxi meets Pokemon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Exactly crazy taxi meets Pokemon.
Yes!
How do you evolve yours? What do you do?
One must do something.
Great question.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm assuming, well, let's see, you gotta get a car serviced, so we have to
service that, and service them, is there something in there?
It's also- Mileage, I guess, you have to go and
get as many kilometers as they involve.
But you're not driving the- Yeah, I drive.
No, but you're driving a car, like a normal car, so you're saying that the passengers
are clocking up the mileage as you travel.
Well, yeah. So you're saying that the passengers are clocking up the mileage as you travel? Yeah.
Because I can only really have four at one time.
I have to then kick out my late for businessman,
and then if I kick him out to get someone else,
like, I don't know, on-time student,
then the too late for businessman, he doesn't get any points.
He's just released.
I've got to go find him again. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
It's hard.
That's a bit of management.
Yeah, okay.
It's kind of like a combination between hotel taxi.
No, yes.
Hotel taxi?
Hotel taxi.
No, crazy taxi.
Mario is missing?
Yeah, yeah.
Plus, you've got to feed these mons,
so drive-thru,
you've got to go through a lot of them.
Yeah, yeah.
That's like your Pokemon,
or your Pokemon Santa.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, I mean, it's a combination of like A hotel sim
Plus crazy taxi
Plus Pokemon
But it also could be real life
That's your job now
That's your career
As a 10 year old boy
I don't think mine evolve
I think they stay in a permanent state
Of whatever you pick them up as
and if you let them out of your car are they still your friend or yeah you get why no they're just
more likely to get picked up later yeah okay so you can't okay so say you're rolling into you're
driving a four-seater car yeah or in your case an uber i guess in your case your car yes yeah
obviously uh that is one of the similarities between Motormon and Public Transport
when people play the Uber section of my game
or real life or anime
they're like is this just lifted
straight out of Motormon
Nintendo's 2016 game
of the year
so you
say and then you need to battle a boss
you can't then call in people that you've
kicked out of your car to help you?
Well, no, because you'd have to be there with you.
Like, you can't go and do, you know, if you enter a gym with the Pokeballs that you have.
Yeah, and your Pokemon are in the Pokebox or whatever.
Sure, in Pokemon, you have a limit of storing your Mons.
But this, unless you put them in the trunk, but then that has a limited capacity.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of size, sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Every time I ask what I think. But they're going to be unhappy about being in that trunk. And so. Yeah. Okay. Of size. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I ask,
but they're going to be unhappy about being in that trunk.
So you got to cycle them through.
And so they will perform worse.
They will perform worse and be a bit stropped.
So as you're playing the game,
you'll see like,
oh,
that's a bus area.
I got to wait till I get the bus and then I can go in there and I can fight those buses.
Cause I need to pick up heaps more passengers.
Yeah,
exactly.
Cause you're not going to be on a bicycle with like a,
with like a child Pokemon in the front seat
and a grandpa Pokemon dinking or whatever.
You're going to take on a boss.
Yeah, you'll get steamrolled.
I got hurt back and dummy suck.
Yeah, exactly.
And what else can I do?
You're going to get absolutely demolished by a bus,
just like if that happened in real life.
Yeah, that's true.
You got a point.
Yeah.
So you got to upgrade, get better mons,
get better public transport or modes of transport
To eventually fight the higher levels
Do you have any questions?
I feel like we're explaining it pretty well
So the object is
To
What?
So in Pokemon
There's like the champions
Oh you want to be
the very best
and catch as many
as you can
yeah yeah yeah
but you can only
catch a finite amount
but you can only
catch a finite amount
or in the boot
you gotta let them
well what you can do
is you can kind of
invite them into your car
and they can just like
sign a waiver
or whatever
or like
you know a journal
and then like
you know yes
I'm that dummy suck good tick and you're like well I, or like, you know, a journal. Yeah. And then like, you know, yes, I'm that.
Yeah.
Dummy suck.
Yeah.
Tick.
And you're like,
well,
I got you.
And then,
you know,
if you don't want to use them in battle,
because I think it'd be rude to,
to fight like a businessman against a baby.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're like,
well,
on the street.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You let them out and they do,
they do whatever they want from now on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that considering Pokemon exists and Digimon exists and the next step you've both seemed to have taken, even though like very different ideas, public transport and the same transport, but just privately owned.
Yes.
Yes.
That is bold.
Thank you.
But I think that maybe the next step, you got to go further, I feel.
Okay.
What if, so you create your party by holding hands?
So kind of like a trough.
Oh, yeah.
And all of the mons are apes.
Variations of apes.
So it's a barrel of monkeys of mons.
Yes.
I like this.
I like this.
So they're different species of ape?
Yep.
So chimpanzee, orangutan.
But they're fictionalized versions, I guess.
Mine is not real life or video game, I guess.
You know what?
Yeah, sure.
It could be both.
It could be both.
Okay.
So do you have a limit of how many apes you can have in your daisy chain?
What happens if they don't hold hands?
What happens if they like...
They don't.
Oh, okay.
So they're always holding hands.
Can you get rid of them?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What if one needs to pee?
It's an ape. What if one needs to pee they just pit it's an ape what do you need to pee you look where you're part of the chain the trick is the doucher is also an ape i'm aware by being a human yeah yeah yeah and then you got
to link up with other people that also have a link of apes and then you fight wrestle ape wrestles
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as a chain yes so not with your arms it It's like you circle.
So you circle.
No, I get it.
So you make a circle around another circle, right?
And then because you're all linking arms,
just every second apes stand still and legs on the ground and the other apes put their legs up and kick.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's kind of beautiful, like a mandala.
That's quite nice.
Okay, how do they evolve?
Yeah, do they evolve?
Yeah, so after either more fights or more steps, I guess.
Or maybe the whole chain evolved.
Does it just get bigger?
Yeah.
The apes get taller.
Like a mech situation where you all fuse into one big giant ape.
No, that's ridiculous.
No, no, no.
That's fair.
Every ape just gets an inch taller
every time they level up.
Every time a new ape joins the chain,
every ape on the chain gets one inch taller.
That's good because you would be,
so to begin with,
you'd just be kicking knees
and then hogs and vaginas.
Bellies, titties, necks, face, nothing.
Then you can start doing stomping,
getting the whole thing.
You can't stomp on the top of the head of your enemies.
Yeah. That's interesting.
And so is there some kind of like strategy
to how tall your rapes are versus how tall the other rapes?
No, because obviously all, like when it comes to being tall,
the taller the better.
There's no downsides to getting too tall.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Godzilla has never claimed to be too big.
Yeah, that is true.
I just fear that you'll be stomping heads
whilst getting kicked in the nuts or whatever
or kicked in the shins.
You know what I mean?
We'll weather it.
That's cool.
There's no real health system.
It's just like...
It might be like an unbalanced situation
when you first start off.
Like, hey, you are 10.
Here is the ape.
Hold hands.
And someone comes over and just
stomps on your head.
I died in real life!
If an ape kicked a 10-year-old,
that's 10-year-old dead, tragically.
But apes also,
and this is important about apes, that's not where
their strength lies in their kicking, really, is it?
Apes together are strong!
It's an ape's arms that are at
strongest point but that and torso yes but their arms are unfortunately yeah they're otherwise
occupied that is true that is true which is used is it like like a human centipede yeah i imagine
that's oh no because i like the idea of being able to ditch the chain if you have to oh okay
okay so maybe like a split attack? Explain that how that would work.
So like in a circle,
and then both sides just kind of let go.
So instead of being a full circle around it,
it becomes two semi-circles.
Oh, okay.
Oh, no, that is good.
That is good,
but is that then two different daisy chain mons?
Maybe that's a move.
Oh, so there's moves.
Yeah, obviously there's moves.
There were no moves for mine exam.
We haven't thought about that.
Yes, we might get that.
Maybe it'd be cool.
And yeah, then it means that like all the fights and stuff would be a little bit like dances.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Lots of spinning.
Yeah.
Swinging apes around.
It's very, it's very like a dancey monkey-a-mon, which I like.
It's graceful.
Yeah.
It's quite pointy. So how many moves does your...
So you're not really fighting with individual apes, are you?
No, you fight as a team.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so does the amount of apes dictate the kinds of moves you have?
Yeah.
Or does the types of apes dictate the kinds of moves you have?
It would probably be both.
Maybe there can be some that, like, walk on their hands, so therefore...
Oh, they're kicking with their legs, but...
Oh. That's cool. that like walk on their hands so therefore oh they're kicking with their legs but oh
so that's cool with the dancing can you then if you're like if say if your your daisy chain meets another daisy chain yeah could you then like switch partners and make a beautiful choreography
dance maybe you could do that maybe that's how you catch them more so unlike in pokemon where
they're like you can't sell another trainer's Pokemon.
You can.
And you're encouraged to.
Yes.
You're going to make all those 10-year-olds sad,
miserable, and alone.
Take their apes.
And also because we are ape, can we also then make the trainer?
Yeah.
Oh, no.
That's what I was worried about.
Big ape.
Because when you split, I was worried that you would have one chain,
but then an ape would be selected to own the second chain.
Well, maybe that is how it works,
but then at the end you've got to then team back up.
Yeah, well, maybe you think you're playing the game and you're like,
well, I am in charge of the apes, but actually you're just one of many.
The chain is who you're playing as, not any individual ape.
Maybe it's kind of like...
You are playing as apes. You're playing it as ap any individual ape Maybe it's kind of like
You're playing it as apes
Where's my JD avatar gone?
He died
Eight hours ago
You fight another ape chain or whatever
And you see yourself
And you're like oh no
Someone stole me
Gotta get me back
Yeah that sounds good, man.
Yeah.
Okay.
What's it called?
What a mon?
Ape a mon.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ape hand a mon?
Ape chain a mon?
It can't be ape mon because ape monsters doesn't really work.
Chain monsters?
Ape mon ape?
Daisy chain?
Daisy mons?
Daisy ape mons?
You can think about it.
We don't need an answer straight away.
How about this?
How about this?
Restaurant mon.
Okay.
Okay, so I have a restaurant.
Let's call it like a pizzeria.
Okay.
Okay, and now I need to start this with some mon.
Chapes mon.
Why is it chapes mon?
Chain apes.
Ah, chapes are mon.
Chain ape mons.
Okay, so pizza mon. So pizza mon chain ape monsters. Okay, so Pizza Mon.
So Pizza Mon.
Restaurant Mon.
Okay, Restaurant Mon, sorry.
So basically it's, because Mon's about the mode of transport,
and I have a building.
Yeah.
So that's where they have to be set.
Also, this is like a sequel or a DLC to your original mode of Mon.
Great, and it could be real life.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, real life DLC.
Yeah, you know.
So we have, like, a restaurant Mon,
and so we have the Mons in the restaurant.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's, you know, we can, like, put them, like...
So you've got to give them roles within the restaurant?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you're, like, you're on the...
So you're, like, a maitre d',
you've got some waitress, waitress...
Waitress, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've got some...
Waitress.
Yeah, yeah.
Waitress is the Pokemon you would make a waiter, that would be clever.
You would have like cooks.
So there's no bad, it's more like a restaurant sim,
but every person you pick is a monster
that could have some benefit to the restaurant.
What if I pitched this, Gutsamon.
So every single one of your organs is a mon
and they make you more or less
powerful depending depending on what let me think of that i mean you can real you'd be like all
right so the brain should be whether in the brain slot but you can put your guts in the well maybe
the way you battle is you actually just have a physical fight with another human being right but
you can rearrange your organs at will so somebody somebody's going to punch your head, and you immediately swap out brain for, you know, heart or whatever.
Explode your brain up.
Your heart's in your head doing your thinking,
and the blood's going through your brain,
making you cleverer and stupider at the same time.
What could you possibly mean by that?
What?
I think it's a great idea.
I switch your organs.
Each, depending where your organs are, it depends what your organ does.
Clever and dumber.
Yeah.
Why?
Because more blood is going to your brain, but your brain isn't where it needs to be.
Your brain is your heart, which is doing your thinking now, making you dumber.
Exactly. But your brain is getting heart. Which is doing your thinking now making you dumber. Exactly.
But your brain is getting more blood.
Therefore making you smarter.
What are you not getting,
Jamie? I don't understand. You swap your lungs with your intestine. Yeah.
You're processing food with your lungs.
But you're breathing with a big lung too.
I don't know how that helps you, but it might.
It means you can breathe
longer. The point is
you have full control
over your entire body now.
That's the point, okay?
But isn't the human body, hasn't it
evolved so that every organ is doing what it's meant to do
at its best? Yeah, but we don't know what it could be like.
And that's
what Gutsmon aims to find
out.
Somebody punches you in the stomach.
You don't want to get winded.
You quickly move your lungs to your biceps.
You breathe in strong.
Yeah.
Punch your enemies.
Winded.
Move your lungs back.
You're good.
Move your lungs to your brain.
Inhale.
Bigger brain.
Quickly switch that with your actual brain.
Yeah.
Genius.
Move your brain to where your lungs were.
Inhale.
Brain gets huge.
Move it to where your heart is.
Pump more blood into it.
Okay.
Starting to understand what Jackson has done here.
Yeah.
So he's got the organ is doing its function,
but the area that is doing its function is also doing the function.
So the cavity where your lungs would be
is still for some reason breathing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's the space.
Every space in your body has an action,
but that it will do no matter what.
The organ is there for.
Are the organs mons?
Yes.
I guess.
Am I making a mon game anymore what am i making i like it though
i don't some of them i don't see the function of like what would be the good of putting your
lungs where your stomach is and putting like chicken in your lungs or whatever
you know basically what i think you're imagining is that fight from the sherlock holmes video a
movie yeah but you're like what if I was really bad
and I could just see how this guy was going to hit me?
And in between every hit, I could reorganize my guts in my body to...
To help me out.
To, yeah, do the least amount of damage.
Yeah, so you can make your brain bigger for a round,
so then you can think harder.
But on the next round, you've got to rearrange your organs again,
so you're going to be thinking slower now.
Yeah, but your organs are mons.
But your organs are... But your organs are mons. But your organs are mons.
But you don't collect them or anything.
And they don't evolve.
You just move them.
You just shift them around.
Maybe you upgrade the different bits of your body
so that your lungs can breathe more.
How about this?
How about this?
What about briefcase monster?
Oh, okay.
So it's quite similar to a Pokemon, like a Pokemon,
but in this case, I have it in my briefcase.
Oh, okay.
You can keep Pokeballs in a briefcase if you want.
Yeah, but this way...
Are they loose in the briefcase?
Yes.
Is the only difference you look like a businessman?
Yes.
That's pretty good.
Are they squished in the briefcase?
Do they get little like they do in a Pokeball?
Well, they get little like they do in a Pokeball.
Are they just little?
If you fling your briefcase around, is there like a blah, blah, blah?
Do they jangle around inside?
Can you keep other stuff in your briefcase still?
I get like a banana.
Like a banana or files?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I keep my files in there and my bonds.
And so when I go and do business, I open it up,
my Pokemons come out, and all my files are there,
and I have a banana to eat it.
Are they not going to eat the banana and wreck your files?
What do the briefcase mons do?
Just hang out?
Maybe hang out, do some filing.
Okay, so once again, you've got them working for you.
Do some filing.
Yeah, yeah.
How?
Oh, not in the briefcase, obviously.
No, once they're out.
Once they're out, yeah. It's more like just a way to- And then we fight on the weekends or whatever. Yeah, yeah, it's a in the briefcase, obviously. No, no, once they're out. Once they're out.
It's more like just a way to-
And then we fight on the weekends or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a way to just transport your staff, basically.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But your staff are monsters.
Are monsters, yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But we also fight on the weekends or something.
Okay, but there is some level of combat to it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can just bake some Mon and Mon.
Yeah.
You gotta fight them.
What about facial features, Mon?
Exactly my premise with the guts, but it's all my facial features.
Move my mouth and my eyes up, blink with my lips.
Ooh, I'm a big fan.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
And what is the benefit?
Can you catch them?
Can you transport them?
Can you train them?
You can catch them from other people's faces, yes.
So if I see someone with stronger eyes than me,
I catch their eyes.
I have strong eyes. They now have
my eyes, which are weak. I have terrible
eyesight. Then I have good eyesight.
Yeah, see?
So you just swap with people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You swap with people.
And the aim is to have the best face.
Yeah.
But like your face structure might be better
suited for, say, like bigger eyes
or medium eyes. And then someone's like,
well, I actually want, slender-looking kind of.
You've got a kissing build.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Headbutt Glasgow kiss build.
Chomping build.
You've got a big jaw, big teeth, little eyes.
Tiny nose.
Shark eyes and big teeth.
Yeah, looking build.
Looking build.
Hearing build.
Hearing build is a basic build.
Yeah.
You can go a bit more in depth.
Tiny face build, everything towards the center.
If you hit you there, it's bad.
But if you hit you anywhere else, it's not so bad.
It looks like a sour...
We call that the sour face strategy.
Your tiny middle face.
Put all your eggs in one basket.
You get it there.
It's bad.
Because every bit of your face gets punched at once.
But if anyone hits you anywhere else,
you feel nothing.
It's just skull.
So that's another one.
That's a better option.
So in this situation,
there's Digimon, Pokemon, and Facial Features Mod.
That's the third big mod.
That's a third big mod.
That's Nintendo's third big IP is facial features mod.
Yeah.
And you can rearrange them.
Yeah, whatever.
Put your nose where your eye is.
It's also an option.
Yeah.
If you want to smell with your eyes, you can.
It smells like eyes.
So again, you're associating the location on your face with the up.
Absolutely.
A hundred percent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What about like a bag mod?
Okay.
So we just get like a plastic bag.
Is this just briefcase mod again? No we just get like a plastic bag is this just briefcase mon again
nah but it's a plastic bag
it's totally
it's a lot like briefcase mon
I must say it's a lot like briefcase mon
but without the it's not nice anymore
they don't get small either
but it's a durable plastic bag
but not that durable
they can fall out
like if you've got a sharp bottle of milk in your plastic bag supermarket it falls out in the street yeah yeah yeah like
imagine like like like like a togepi just yeah yeah yeah are they just pokemon yeah
it's not really in your mind it's just a new way of transporting yeah a new illegal way
it's kind of like when you uh see a pokemon you don't have pokeball yeah yeah plastic bag you're
like i gotta catch it one way or the other.
You know that Pokemon have abilities, yeah.
Salmon's on fire.
Salmon's dead.
Pokemon can kill a guy.
That is true, but that's why I stick with my ones that are about the body for some reason.
Limbs are Mon.
Swap where your head is, your legs, all of that.
House Mon.
In a very similar kind of way to yours, but everything is made from Mons.
So we can just move around
You can just rearrange a house
But this is quicker
Because there's mons
Every door is a mon, every bit of furniture is a mon
And so basically you're rearranging things
Is this not just the Flintstones where everything's a dinosaur
I suppose in many ways it is the Flintstones
Aren't we all in many ways the Flintstones
Can I pitch you the Flintstones
So it's a modern stone age family
Fred Flintstone, his wife Wilma, their child
Bam Bam, their neighbour Bonnie
Robble and I forget the name of Betty Robble
they live in a kind of modern take
well 1950s modern take
on a sort of caveman time
not going to correct the child mistake you made there
Bam Bam and Pebbles
Pebbles is actually the daughter of Fred Flintstone
but that's the Flintstones. Oh, okay. Yeah, well, yeah.
But that's the Flintstones.
Bam Bam is the child.
Bam Bam.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they have a dinosaur who's sort of a butler,
but also kind of a lawnmower named Dino.
So which one would you like to invest in?
How about instead?
What about, okay, we've got Digimon.
What about Analogmon?
Oh, okay.
So they're only kept in clocks and records?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got Digimon, what about Acoustamon?
They're acoustic monsters.
Yeah, acoustic monsters.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's Zaman's idea, but more wrong.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Misunderstanding digital, but more.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they're made of guitars or whatever.
Made of heart, made of hums. Yeah, yeah. This is my starter Pokemon. Yeah, yeah. So they're made of guitars or whatever. Made of heart. Made of hums.
Yeah, yeah.
This is my starter Pokemon.
Yeah, yeah.
Sorry, my starter Acoustmon.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Oh, thank you so much.
Now you get it.
Now you get it.
Yeah.
Do you have any questions about any of these?
Any particular Mons?
This makes sense to you off the bat.
I...
Yeah.
What about an Appmon?
Yeah.
It's on the phone. It's on the phone.
Download it from the app store. Google Play store if you've got an Android. Yep. And then what?
You click on it and it says the mon.
Yeah, we've got to click other mons, other apps.
So it's
owning a phone. No, no, no.
You could not misunderstand more.
So you get the app
and you have to buy other apps.
The more apps you buy, it's great.
For us.
So I don't know if you remember,
but there's actually been a thing that's very similar to that.
Oh, yeah.
Where you used to collect barcodes.
Okay.
And you'd scan them with this thing,
and they would give you monsters associated with the barcodes.
Yeah, okay.
Well, that, though. That already exists. And they would give you monsters associated with the barcode. Yeah, okay. Well, that though.
That already exists.
Yeah, but did you like it?
It was pretty cool in like 2003, I think.
Oh, okay.
It's very similar to Monster Rancher, which is-
It seems like you're describing groceries.
Just going to shops and-
Yes.
Are the monsters groceries?
No, the monsters aren't groceries.
It's a separate-
So you get the groceries in real life.
Okay.
And you've got this thing.
Is it a game or real life?
Or is it an anime?
It's actually...
Or is it both?
It's a game you're playing in real life,
but also going to the shops.
Is it most games you play in real life?
Yes.
Well, in this situation,
there's two things happening simultaneously.
Okay.
You're grocery shopping in real life.
And at the same time,
you're playing this game,
which wasn't on a phone, but now if they made it again,
it would be on a phone, which is you just scan barcodes.
When you scan the barcodes, it gives you a unique monster
on your phone.
But you're still buying the groceries.
So in real life, you still get salary or whatever.
But you get salarymon at the same time.
Are these monsters unique?
I think so.
What were you thinking?
How much for an Appamon?
I was imagining $2.99.
Yeah, you get $2.99 for the Appamon,
but then you have to buy other apps.
Are they apps, guys?
No, no, they're apps.
They're apps, but they're monsters.
But they're monsters.
But you go to your app store and you buy it,
that'll count.
That'll go towards it,
and that's good for the Appamon. Yeah. You've got to collect them all, you buy it, that'll count. That'll go towards it. And that's good for the apps.
You've got to collect them all, and there's a lot of apps. So Pokemon, Digimon, Appsmon.
Appsmon.
And say for every app you get, when you open,
say if you open, as opposed to going to the app store,
you go to the Appmon.
And then from that, you go and buy every app that you buy.
We get 10%.
Yeah, there you go.
Well, yeah, so I guess it goes Pokemon, Digimon, Pokemon,
Motomon, Public Transportermon, Ape Chain, Chapemon,
Gutsemon, Pizzemon, Face-a-mon, Uppermon,
Briefcase-a-mon, Plastic Bag-a-mon.
I think that's all the mons.
And do you have any other mons you want to?
No.
Which one was the best replacement, do reckon I would say Gutsamon
We threw a lot of mons at you JD
Maybe you can pick
You can't pick your own
That's cheating
So that rules the only good one out
Well maybe just take me through the highlights
The ones you're most confident in each
Gutsamon I'm Okay, well, I think...
Guts them on, I'm all over that.
Yeah, I think guts them on would be great.
I think breathing with your brain is great to do.
Makes your brain less strong,
because obviously it's expanding, less mass.
And it means that if you run too...
Do you know what any of the words you just said mean?
If you run too hard with your brain as your lungs,
you might get...
How does filling something with air mean less mass?
You're putting mass in it.
Air has weight.
You're making it thinner as you breathe out.
Because the brain stays the same size, it's just got to expand,
which means it becomes less strong tensile.
It stays the same size and it expands.
No, because the brain itself isn't getting bigger.
It's just getting full of air.
Yeah.
You know?
So you're making the pathways and the connectivity tissue. It's why a balloon pops.
The connectivity tissue between the brain is wider,
therefore easier for blood to flow, therefore smarter.
Yeah, but you can't get puffed.
No.
Because then your brain's going.
That's how you get a fucking aneurysm.
You have a stroke.
That's not good.
You don't want that.
So it's a lot of
It's risk reward
I guess
With Gutsamon
So I think
If I had to put a mon
That we've come up with today
Forward
As something I'd like to see
Gutsamon
Implemented
In real life
It would be Gutsamon
I think
Yeah
I'm gonna go with
With Motamon
Because I think also
Watermotamon
Is a fun word to say
Watermotamon
See
But also I like the idea of You're just driving around your mons,
and you have a limited space of different mons,
and really wherever you go, it's the open road.
So you can go wherever you want.
You can go to life or this video game.
Jack Kerouac's on the road, yeah.
So I guess there's pros and cons to both.
Pros to a motormon, obviously lots to do.
Cons being the inclusion
of water modemon and sky modemon
feels like you're only getting some of the mons
in modemon because they have a separate
subcategory. Yeah, that is true.
The cons of gutsmon seems to be that the creator
doesn't understand how the human body works.
And aneurysms.
Yeah, it's when the brain
gets too puffed.
Yeah, yeah, yes, yes.
So I guess I'm going to have to probably It's when the brain gets too puffed. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I guess I'm going to have to probably.
Yeah.
Probably green light both.
Yeah.
Woo.
Hear that?
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We're coming.
Digimon.
Pokemon.
Motomon.
Gutsmon.
Oh, yeah.
Gutsamon.
Gutsamon.
Gutsamon.
Gutsamon.
What does guts stand for?
Guts a lot of good ideas here.
Guts a lot of good ideas here, monsters.
Yeah.
I'd like to withdraw one green light.
No, I've been red lit.
And on that note, I've been Joe.
I've been Jackson.
And I don't, I feel like I've been Joel I've been Jackson and I don't
I feel like I've just been
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