Plumbing the Death Star - What's Gonna Happen in the Avengers? (Feat. Mr Sunday Movies)

Episode Date: April 22, 2015

In which our heroes study up on the latest rumours, disregard it all in favour of wild accusations before turning to outright lies as we speculate what’s gonna happen in the Avengers 2: Age of Ultro...n. We predict inevitable character deaths, inevitable infinity stone reveals and inevitable trips for Hulk into space. Zammit explains the popularity of Russian ballet troops in the 60s, James thinks we should edit our episodes less and Duscher just wishes we could start predicting the events of Avengers: Infinity War. So take what we say with a grain of salt because in the end, it’s all just guesswork. But we do know one thing for certain; Captain America is gonna to shine bright like a bloody diamond, regardless of what Jeremy Renner says. Fuck off Hawkeye.Want to help fund an expedition to bring Hulk back from outer space where he is clearly going? Head to http://www.patreon.com/sanspantsradio and for as little as $1 a month, you can help make a difference in his gamma irradiated life.And don’t forget to get your free audible book download and a 30 day free trial at http://www.audibletrial.com/SanspantsRadio there’s probably at least one hundred and ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine books about how to correctly predict the shine factor of our favourite star spangled soldier. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 San Spence Radio, maybe I could be your girlfriend tonight. Did you recognize me and McDonald's and were kind of too scared to talk to me properly? Email us at sanspenceradio at gmail.com and I'll give you a second chance. For everything else, including links to our other shows, our Twitter, or our Patreon account, head to sanspenceradio.com. Hey guys, welcome to a very special midweek episode of Plumbing the Death Star, where we ask important questions like, what's going to happen in the Avengers? Two.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Age of Ultron. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, okay, so basically it's Wednesday today and age of... Sorry, it's basically Wednesday? So basically... It's practically Wednesday. What kind of fuckwood sentence is that? I hope this all stays in the episode.
Starting point is 00:01:00 In theory. In theory. Hypothetically. Depending on which calendar you follow. Loden's day. Look,. Hypothetically. Depending on which calendar you follow. Loden's day. Look, guys. All right. Just let me speak.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I think you should leave all that in, genuinely. I think you should leave these moments in. I think people, like, anyway. Including the moment where you're explaining the moment? Yes. Look, all right, guys. So it's midweek special, Plumbing the Death Star, because Avengers 2 Age of Ultron is released in Australia
Starting point is 00:01:24 and maybe the UK tomorrow. America gets it the following week. Soz, guys. I'm not really sorry. I'm pretty stoked to see it. Yeah, we just thought that we would come into the studio and record an episode where we basically just guess what's going to happen in the film. Exactly. Here is an episode where three men sit in a room, yell things at each other, which may or may not happen.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I'm going to say right now that Tony... Tony Hawk? Tony Hawk. I thought you were going to say Tony Hawk. I was about to say Tony Hawk. And you know what? I'm sticking with it. I reckon Tony Hawk is going to make a guest appearance,
Starting point is 00:01:58 punch Tony Stark in the face, steal his suit, become infected with Ultron, and then get turned into a lady. That's my speculation for Age of Ultron. Before we get into Hulk... Tony Hawk.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Rise of Five. Alright, so before we get into too much, I guess we should probably reveal I've seen the first and third trailer. I think I've seen the first and second. I've seen all the trailers and I stopped watching the clips because they reveal too Yep. I think I've seen the first and second. I've seen all the trailers and I stopped watching the clips because
Starting point is 00:02:27 they reveal too much. I watched the Hulkbuster Hulk clip fight and that's as far as I got because I'm like, I don't want to see this. I thought it was super weird they released that clip
Starting point is 00:02:35 in particular. What do we think is going to happen? I think, okay, so Joss Whedon has said a bunch that it's dark and we know that it's going to start a darker phase
Starting point is 00:02:42 three? Two? It's the end of two. It's towards the end of two because then there's Ant-Man. Ant-Man, which is the end of phase two. And we know that it's going to start a darker phase three? Two? It's towards the end of two. Because then there's Ant-Man. Ant-Man, which is the end of phase two. So I feel like they're going to kill someone. I feel like that person is going to be Quicksilver,
Starting point is 00:02:55 which is going to be sort of a surprise, unless you've heard this episode, then you'll be like, oh, I saw that coming. Those sons of bitches. Two reasonings for it. He's a hard character to fit into the Marvel Universe over multiple films. Kind of once you bring in Quicksilver, unless they've limited his powers heaps, two reasonings for it. He's a hard character to fit into the Marvel Universe over multiple films. Like kind of once you bring in Quicksilver
Starting point is 00:03:06 unless they've limited his powers heaps he's sort of way too overpowered to exist in this universe. He breaks the game. Second of all they don't want too many comparisons to Days of Future Past
Starting point is 00:03:15 which is a great film and the Quicksilver in that stands out as probably the highlight so by killing him off in Avengers sort of will also sort of
Starting point is 00:03:23 fuck X-Men a bit I mean like they're two completely different characters but people like isn't he i'm really confused what's going on now which is good in quicksilver sort of to talk more on quicksilver in the comics it's been sort of recently um revealed that then he's not or him and uh wander are not the kids of magneto yeah and it's also then heavily hinted at because i haven't really caught up to date that they're not even mutants yeah so that's a bit of a fuck you to the um fox anyway um also while i enjoyed days of future past quicksilver the characterization of of that of pietro i didn't feel was correct like pietro is an arrogant piece of shit no one likes him he's that kind of arrogant guy you just
Starting point is 00:04:06 hate and the Quicksilver is quite likeable I really hope that and he's not Eastern European he's just a guy? he's just a dude they named him Peter didn't they? so I like this Pietro
Starting point is 00:04:21 and if you've seen the clip he sounds like a bit of a dick so I'm hoping his arrogance level is just high. And I really hope they don't really try and push the incest thing that the Ultimates University. Oh, apparently, yeah, that's another weird. That's another thing I hope. I speculate that that's not in the movies.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And that's more of a hope. That's some Gamma Friends shit, right? We don't want that to be, guys. Yeah, well, I've got some surprise news on that theory. It's not written into the script, but both the actors were familiar with that subplot in the Ultimate Universe. So they play it up a bit.
Starting point is 00:04:55 There's a lot of touching and weird looks. They played... Because they played part of Godzilla. Yeah, Godzilla 98, yeah. Yeah, Godzilla 98 with Matthew Broderick as well. He was the third member of their relationship. He was, yeah. That was a confusing movie.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Boy, was it. And they brought in the love rectangle, including Godzilla himself. Zilla. Come on, come on. I feel like they have to kill someone, though. Yeah. Because everyone they've killed, nearly, they've brought back. Or it's been a weird fake out. Died for real? For real? Not for play? No. have to kill someone though. Yeah. Because everyone they've killed nearly they've brought back. There's always been
Starting point is 00:05:25 a weird fake out. Died for real? For real? Nobody like... Not for play play? Nobody of note. I mean... Bucky obviously came back
Starting point is 00:05:33 but he... Bucky died for play play. Nick Fury died for play play. Yeah. And so did Agent Coulson. Coulson. Was there an explanation? I haven't seen
Starting point is 00:05:41 Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Ah, Kree blood. They poke in his brain and they put malium blood in him. Yeah. Kree. The dudes from... So they've cured death in the Marvel Universe as S.H.I.E.L.D ah Kree blood they poke in his brain and they put malium blood in him yeah Kree the dudes from so they've cured death
Starting point is 00:05:47 in the Marvel Universe as well correct yes wow yeah no good but with some side effects what are the side effects which passed oh um
Starting point is 00:05:54 really do you watch that show I've only seen the end of um halfway through season 2 yeah yeah so they cure Coulson's
Starting point is 00:06:04 yes fear of side effects. Yes, I can spoil it. It's not interesting, but I can talk about it. Because he has to carve stuff into the walls, like his certain patterns. And what that is, that's a city. It's an inhuman city that's under the earth.
Starting point is 00:06:19 But apparently if you see it as a 3D representation, you stop getting the crazy urge to do that. Because if you crack it, then you're fine. Oh, right. Yeah, because the guy builds the model. Yeah. So you've seen it and you're still like, I don't know. You just completely blanked it.
Starting point is 00:06:35 That's interesting because it sounds like something out of Lost. Yeah. See, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., or as me and Zoe like to call it, Asians and Seals. Is there a seal in that? It's a show that you can watch while on your phone. It's not a good show. Absolutely, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Absolutely. While you're in the other room. Yeah, okay. So they've cured death, good. Does that mean... I know this isn't like a... It's got an actual... But does that mean if you get a hold of a Kree,
Starting point is 00:07:07 you could in effect cure death? Yes. As long as you have a 3D representation of the city. Yeah, you have to have that on your head. You wake up and you're like, Oh my God! Oh, okay. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I'm good. Sick. Okay, that's just the future plumbing there, guys. Save that in the bank for that show that nobody watches. Nobody watches all once. Zero downloads. Right, speculation. Avengers, what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:07:34 So, yeah, they're going to kill someone for real. I think it's Quicksilver, but I could also see them killing... Hawkeye? Yeah, Hawkeye could die. Actually, Hawkeye dying also makes sense because they've tried to build him up as a likable character. Apparently he's great in this movie. Apparently he shines.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Jeremy Renner's been saying that about Hawkeye since his first appearance in Thor. No, no, people who have seen it said that. I just figured because Jeremy Renner also probably said that about Born Identity. Yeah, no, he said he was... Mission Impossible. He's like, I really shine.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I suppose. You in... Are you in the new Mission Impossible sequel? Oh you're not Oh he's not is he? Oh why'd that happen? Is he? He's not No he's not
Starting point is 00:08:12 Originally what they were going to do was They were going to have a magic pill That was a pill wasn't it? I haven't seen it But yeah he's got a magic pill that makes him Jason Bourne basically I thought it was a magic pill that makes him Tom Cruise No that's Mission Impossible Yeah Isn't he Which was the magic pill that makes him Jason Bourne, basically. I thought it was a magic pill that makes him Tom Cruise. No, that's Mission Impossible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Isn't he... Which was the magic pill? Was that Bourne or... The magic pill was Bourne. I haven't seen it, but I'm fairly certain. Yeah, because I'm pretty sure I haven't seen that one. He's got Jason Bourne pills. They're not called that, but...
Starting point is 00:08:34 I thought they made Ethan Hunt pills. Didn't they make Ethan Hunt pills? So what's Ethan in Mission Impossible? He's just a guy. Is he? He's just a really fast guy who runs weirdly. I thought he also had pills. People are like, Tom Cruise looks great running. He does. No,. Is he? Just a really fast guy who runs weirdly. People are like,
Starting point is 00:08:46 Tom Cruise looks great running. He does. No, he fucking doesn't. Tom Cruise looks like a national treasure running. He has built his career on nothing but running. Agreed. It's how you imagine
Starting point is 00:08:58 the perfect human to run. That is Tom Cruise. He does like the T-1000 run, but his arms are too low. So he's like pointing out. He's fast. I'd give him that. Tom Cruise looks like what you'd imagine would happen
Starting point is 00:09:09 if they made male models run down the catwalk. But in all seriousness, I think I've just mixed the Bourne in Mission Impossible. Wow. I'm almost certain I haven't seen Jeremy Renner's Bourne movie. But I remember him talking about taking pills in Mission Impossible and me getting angry at that. Or did I just get angry at another film or watching a different film? What were you on your phone when you were watching that?
Starting point is 00:09:36 Probably both. You were probably watching one of the other films on your phone. Split screen, both happened to be both. This is weird. Yeah, Killing Hawkeye would make sense. Killing Hawkeye. Especially because then you'll probably get some kind of... TV show.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Sorry. That's what happened to Coulson. They just keep killing people and then bringing them up for spinoffs. Yeah, yeah. Hawkeye seems like a good one to kill because people won't care that much. Yeah. But they'll care. He's like a good scapegoat because you're like,
Starting point is 00:10:03 Oh, no. I saw him in that one film and two.'s got a loyal fan base apparently we found that out the hard way yes um but i mean if you kill hawkeye nothing would please me more like on a personal level like yeah good you shouldn't be in a team you really shouldn't and i just want to take a moment here to point out i think i've said this before so so his whole initiation into the Avengers was clearly walking through a door. Yes. So he can just pass that on to everyone he meets. Yeah, because he's such a scarlet witch.
Starting point is 00:10:31 All you've got to do to become an Avenger, walk through a bloody door, mate. It's that easy. It's that easy. Look. And look at me. I've got a bow now. How good am I?
Starting point is 00:10:39 I'm an Avenger. Apparently there's a line in it where he goes, I'm literally a guy with a bow and arrow. Like, in this movie. He's heard our podcast. Jeremy, we're sorry we upset you, mate, but we're glad you took it on board.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I mean, like, they can't kill Scarlet Witch or everyone would hate you. I'm not Scarlet Witch. Scarlet Johansson. I meant to say Black Widow, but I said Scarlet Witch, but you knew who I was talking about. I was hoping, though. I think killing off Wanda would be a good move.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Okay. Because she's also a way too overpowered person that could break the game. Someone who has broken the game in the Marvel comic universe, which, you know, by simply saying a few things, just causes so much problems. Unless they sort of use it to... There's an idea. If she plays a big part in Act 3
Starting point is 00:11:28 and she does her magic chaos bullshit and then just changes the world crazy like no more... Do you reckon they're going to scale her up that much? Maybe. Like the whole no more mutants thing in the comics, but something else like that where something happened and she just completely... Phase 3 is apparently super spacey.
Starting point is 00:11:44 That's what I feel like they're saving that for I reckon whoever dies if it like I think Captain America
Starting point is 00:11:50 is probably gonna die at the end of Civil War yeah I would say either die or get old yeah
Starting point is 00:11:55 either way he's out but I reckon the Infinity War will bring back the time gem and reality gem and whatever else will bring back
Starting point is 00:12:02 everybody oh yeah that's what I think I think they'll hold on to that reality altering stuff for now. Forget about Avengers 2, let's speculate Avengers 3.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Wanda is a gem. Yes. Hey, they could do that. They legitimately could. What gems are we missing so far? Jesus. Because they're different from the comics. I've done videos videos on this but I genuinely can't remember the time gem, we haven't seen the time gem
Starting point is 00:12:28 haven't seen the soul gem but it's rumoured to be in the Vision's head even though it's not in the comics it's a different thing but I don't see why they wouldn't put that in so soul gem and time gem are the only two missing reality gem was the red one from Thor the dark world
Starting point is 00:12:43 the tesseract is space. Power is the one from Guardians. Is that all? Mind Gem. Yeah. And there's stones in the movies. Or women.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Or an android. Do we think there's going to be any appearance from any of the Guardians of the Galaxy? No. I think we might get some Thanos-y, space-y as it were do we think that there's going to be any appearance from any of the Guardians of the Galaxy no none I think we might get some Thanos-y space-y stuff
Starting point is 00:13:08 because I think Thor goes into space and I feel like at the end of this Thor won't be there and Hulk won't be there yeah I think they're all going to get rid of
Starting point is 00:13:17 the big players simply because that was what makes it interesting yeah and it'll make Civil War more grounded yeah more grounded
Starting point is 00:13:23 because who gives a shit about Civil War if you have a Hulk or a Thor on your side well Thor I mean like yeah and it'll make civil war more grounded yeah more grounded because who gives a shit about civil war if you have a hulk or a thor on your side well thor i mean like the end of the dark world of thor sort of just like shit is surely going down on fucking planet that he's from what's it called asgard asgard yeah yeah because loki is on the throne yeah that's you don't want that yeah oh yeah rumors that loki are in this film, apparently. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. So... I think that leaked or something? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:13:47 What's his name? Dude. Fuck. Not Dennis Hopper. The other guy. No. Him? No.
Starting point is 00:13:52 The gatekeeper. No, the gatekeeper. Him. Heimdall. Heimdall. He was like, yeah, something, something seen in Avengers 2. Because he announced that he was in it, but he also sort of hinted that Loki was there. He doesn't care that guy.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Like, at all. He doesn't give a shit. He doesn't give a shit. He doesn't give a shit. He's like, go on, fire me, whatever. Good. I'm doing this stupid hat. This sword's really fucking heavy, guys. And I don't even get to fight people with it.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I'm just like, fuck this. I could be a blind guy in this. I could fight crime. You know who would make a good daredevil? Me. Sons of bitches. Are they going to tie it? Should have held out for Black Panther.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah, he really should have. I could be fucking Heimdall. Heimdall. Whatever, that's bullshit. He would have been a good Black Panther. Oh, well. In his face. That guy.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, I think they have said to Thor that Hulk is not going to space too many times for him not to be going to space. Yeah. They're doing the whole Star Trek Into Darkness approach of he's definitely not Khan. Hulk is definitely not going to space. So I really want a scene where you see Thanos in his chair sitting down to like a microwave meal kind of thing. Like a stable microwave. All right. And then in the distance, just Hulk just rocketing past.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Thanos gets spooked a little. Maybe spill some gravy on his pants. And a quick double take. And the Hulk sees him and waves. And waves his way across. Yeah. Hey. How are they going to live?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Credits. Credits. No, that's when the middle of the credits start. Fuck yeah. Apparently the lineup you could find out now is on the internet
Starting point is 00:15:30 of what happens at the end and who's left and what happens. You can find, I haven't looked at it. Yeah, we actually haven't looked at that.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I mean, that sounds like the type of thing we're just going to, like one of us is just waiting to talk about because we haven't, I didn't even know
Starting point is 00:15:41 it existed until just then. Right, for a website that put it up and I didn't look at it. That's a, Right. Sort of for a website that put it up and I didn't look at it. So that's all. So all these people that have probably looked at that and listening to this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You're wrong. Yeah. You're wrong. You're so wrong. They're right. And I don't trust that they haven't looked at this list. How do they know about Hulk and Thanos? I feel like at the end as well, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:16:05 you know, there's a bit where they all fight in the Ultron army. Yeah. I don't think that's the end. No, because that's almost, I reckon that'll be your break into. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And because, because they're, and they've even hinted that, no, that's the, that's the end of whatever they've talked about it, but where's vision. And I think vision is going to change the movie when vision gets fired up.
Starting point is 00:16:22 That's, and he'll be the one to take down or if probably help tony tony stark probably had a hand in it because he always does he has to solve everything in these movies or wreck everything i don't know he does both but yeah i think vision's going to be that's the big reveal that's going to be the stuff that's going to we haven't seen a lot of it sounds like well based on the trailers i've seen that captain america is probably going to slowly be taking over the iron man thing of he's going to be the one responsible for all the good stuff yep yep it looks like that's going to happen in the trailer well based on the trailer and also
Starting point is 00:16:50 i think because people really like winter soldier and they need to build a civil war and if tony stark is just like in the whole film series has been like hey i'm the one that makes things happen then when you get to civil war everyone's gonna be cheering for the wrong person yeah yeah so you need to have captain america shine captain america's gonna shine in this film like a bloody diamond jeremy renner shut the fuck up mate you'll be all right but captain america it's gonna be his chance to shine there's that sweet sebo's fighting on top of a truck which should be like a three second fight yeah because he wouldn't but that's great he's great and i don't care i'm willing to just also i'm going to say that they were going to get more of Black Widow's backstory and
Starting point is 00:17:26 maybe reveal that she is also a... Oh, Julie Deepley's in it. Who? Deppley? Who's that? A thing from before series. Yeah. That was words that...
Starting point is 00:17:35 I understood with our Joel telepathic link we got. Jewel Deepley. Julia. Julia? Julie Deepley? Like Truly Madly Deeply. Truly Madly Deeply is where I was goingly. Julia. Julia? Julie Deeply? Like Truly Madly Deeply? Truly Madly Deeply is where I was going for, yes. The one that stars opposite Ethan Hawke in the Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, and Before Midnight.
Starting point is 00:17:57 She's in the Avengers too. Age of Ultron. Out tomorrow. Yeah. Out tomorrow. I'm very excited. Lucky son of a bitch. I need to record this fast so you can get it. I've got to're a fucking son of a bitch. I need to recall as fast as I can get.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I've got to wait for this son of a bitch because he's working that night. Yeah, I've got work later tonight. You really blew it. That sucks. Yeah, she's playing Black Widow's... No, did it? What's the word? I want to say master.
Starting point is 00:18:17 That's not the right word. Oh, okay. Mentor? Mentor trainee? Did you guys watch Agent Carter? I've seen the first episode. Do you mean in Russia? In Russia. Mother Russia. Yeah. Yes. So she've seen the first episode. Do you mean in like, in Russia? In Russia, mother Russia.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah. Yes. So she's like the training person. Yeah. Okay. I feel like. I didn't know that. Like teaching her ballet and shit.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Yeah, yeah. What I can gather from the trailers is that they're a ballet squad and they are also hired assassins because they are traveling ballet troupe and to go to places. It's got. Kind of like that movie starring... Black Swan? No. Sucker Punch?
Starting point is 00:18:52 No. Jurassic Hammond? Sam Rockwell, where he's a game show host. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind. Exactly like that, but with ballet instead of a game show. Because I don't know if you knew this but in russia ballet was just like the number one thing that everyone went to
Starting point is 00:19:10 so for you to hire a personal ballet troupe to come to you in like the 70s or 80s was seen just as the norm but it's so boring yeah okay i will I know it's amazing. No, no, no. Joel has just been lying to you this whole time. You've been sitting there with the most like, oh, wow, look on your face. I genuinely thought... He was even using his lying tone. How did you know that he was lying? Because of the way he's sitting and what he was saying.
Starting point is 00:19:39 That sounds legit, though. Like, that's like... Ballet, Russia in the 70s some people get clowns for their birthday some people hire 40 women to dance
Starting point is 00:19:50 makes sense yeah I think that we're going to get and I'm basing this solely off the scene where Black Widow
Starting point is 00:19:56 picks up Captain America's shield while she's riding a motorcycle yeah I think you're going to need some explanation
Starting point is 00:20:00 to why that didn't just cut off her hand or why she can because usually the wielding the shield is a sign of things to come because Bucky is the only other person
Starting point is 00:20:09 that you see pick up the shield. Oh yeah. So you reckon she's a bit of a super soldiery Russian soldier. Also, isn't that also a plot line in one of the comic books? I do not know. Black Widow ever involved
Starting point is 00:20:21 in the super soldier? I couldn't tell you. I think she's got some enhancements but I don't know what it is. There was a Russian Captain America kind of person. Sick. Red Sog? That's a P.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Brator? Maybe. It's like a Y and an R and a T and another Y? Possibly. I want to say the Prometheus, but that's not right. Prozac? Let's go with that. Captain Prozac.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Captain Sickle. Let's go with that. Like that. Good. Like that. Good. Topical. Yeah. And he versus Captain... Isn't this in the run where Captain America has like a hologram shield?
Starting point is 00:20:53 That's cool. That beautiful 90s run. I don't even remember that. That was amazing. So it's just like... Yeah. So like a lightsaber? Yeah, basically like a lightsaber on his gauntlet, but it's a shield.
Starting point is 00:21:03 That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. Seems more... Throw it? It's very cool. Did he throw it? Or is it blast? a shield. That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. Seems more... Throw it? It's very cool. Did he throw it? Or is it blast? I forget.
Starting point is 00:21:09 It's been a while since I've read that. Shield blast. I forgot about that. Bring those into the movies. Get them happening. Get him shooting the star off his shield. That's what I want. Like Superman 2 style.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Like Superman's ass. Yeah, I was going to say. I just wanted to do that. He can just tell a thing, wrap Ultron in it, and he's like, Ultron's like, ah! That's how he survives the truck fight. Ah, that makes sense now. In the movie, he's got a magnetic clip that calls the shield back. You see it in one of the trailers.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I don't know which one. That's cool. Black Widow, you reckon, is part of the Super Soldier thing? Oh, yeah, that's right. Super Soldier thing. Because Hulk is also part of that in the movie series. And I feel like they're probably just going to keep tying stuff into that. Yep.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yeah, he's a result of trying to replicate. Yeah, it was a fuck-up, obviously. We'll do that, except we'll use radiation. Yeah. It's the same, I guess. Idiots. All right, so let's see here. So Tony Stark, what's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:22:02 Okay, let's look at the characters, and we'll see what... Probably a better way to do this, speculation-wise. So we'll go through the characters. You reckon there's a Black Widow. You reckon we're going to get a Super Soldier reveal. Or at least some of her backstory explains why she's so special. Confessions of a dangerous ballet.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Yes. Captain America. He's going to shine in this film. Yes. Like a beacon. Like a bloody diamond. like a like a diamond like a bloody diamond like a patriotic diamond where
Starting point is 00:22:29 yeah he's going to shine he's going to shine and he will be morally conflicted yes a bunch
Starting point is 00:22:35 I think he will start turning against the Avengers initiative yes and Tony Stark in particular even though this will fuck up
Starting point is 00:22:42 because clearly this is a Tony Stark I'm just trying to do this to protect the world fuck up. Yeah. He will still stand by it and be like, well, this is why we need things in place. If things go wrong, we still need constant surveillance.
Starting point is 00:22:55 We still need this sort of protection-y thing. And consequences for men who make robots to try to kill us. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Also, I feel like the Captain America will blame Tony Stark for Ultron. Yes. Yeah. I can just see this amazing just sort of like New York City is leveled again.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Yes. The cranes are still there from rebuilding it the first time. They're all standing there. And Tony Stark's like, he does the whole like, ah, job well done. Good work, Avengers. And then, of course, Captain America would just look at him, just glare at him like, maybe we should punish the person responsible for this? You mean Ultron?
Starting point is 00:23:27 We did. No. Yeah, it wouldn't be the person. No, the person. The person? Ultron? He wasn't birthed. He was a robot.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Captain, you don't know. You're old. In your 1940s morals, I'm going to go off and sleep with some playgirls. Yeah, I think it's got to start off with them all chummy and working together and doing stuff. And then at the end, it's going to be fractured. A fractured, if not split, group.
Starting point is 00:23:54 What would split them, though? Do you reckon they're going to find out about Colson? Tony Stark. Colson, yeah. Maybe. I don't think it matters, to be honest. Do they even care? No, I don't think they...
Starting point is 00:24:03 I think Fury only... Here are Coulson's cards. What? He's like, Coulson, I thought you meant Hill. Oh, I would not have cared. So Tony Stark. Yeah, I think he's the catalyst.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I think there'll obviously be conflict throughout, but I think it's going to end with them fractured and not happy with each other. And Tony Stark's solution is, oh, we'll just regulate everything. Oh, yeah. Like Civil War. Because Civil War is not going to be about masks.
Starting point is 00:24:36 There's not enough heroes with masks. You've got Daredevil and a teenage Spider-Man. Yeah, exactly. Oh, Spider-Man. I forgot about that. That's what we've got to talk about. I don't think he's going to be in it, Spider-Man. Post-credits or whatever, I don't think we're going to see him.
Starting point is 00:24:49 No, it won't happen. If we do, it'll be like his suit and you won't see the actor. Or you'll just hear the webs. Or what you'll get is it'll just be someone committing a crime and you'll just hear a thwoop and hands stuck to the wall. No, like Uncle Ben being shot again. That's the post-credits scene. crime and you would just hear like a thwip and like hands stuck to the wall no like uncle ben being shot again yeah we need to see god oh i would just go imagine if uncle ben is like a victim of the ultron attack so it was ultron that killed uncle ben oh wait oh that doesn't make
Starting point is 00:25:21 sense because spider-man responsibility of defeating a fucking robot. Yeah. All righty. And that would put Spider-Man team Captain America, which makes no sense to why he'd be unmasked. Yes. I have flaws. Also, you can't unmask, and he's going to be 15 or so,
Starting point is 00:25:36 a 15-year-old boy. Yeah. And then that'd be public knowledge. And Tony Stark being like, we don't mask you. Okay. Oh, shit. You are a monster. Everyone's going to jail. i should be in jail i'll just just take myself it's canceled guys we're wrong i'm so sorry
Starting point is 00:25:55 thank you for participating click i think it's got to be regulation yeah it's got to be like you need to register if you want to do this I think that's how they're gonna do it and I reckon Tony Stark will push that it's his selection yeah oh he's Shuri yeah
Starting point is 00:26:10 director of S.H.I.E.L.D. Tony Stark director of S.H.I.E.L.D. well he is practically now not S.H.I.E.L.D. S.H.I.E.L.D. his own kind of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Starting point is 00:26:18 and then fucking Captain America will be like no no no cause S.H.I.E.L.D. was all fucking corrupted it's gonna be corrupted
Starting point is 00:26:22 he's like nah I won't I'm the greatest but you fucking Ultron that'll be fine whatever I'm'm the greatest yeah tony stark what champ um i reckon i reckon yeah yeah there we go that's that's what it's gonna be it's gonna be the shield thing it's gonna be the shield thing that splits them like yeah because i admit tony stark will be like fuck yeah i run shield now and captain america like shield doesn't work
Starting point is 00:26:42 all my friends are dead because of this you dumb idiot it was started by people I trusted and like it was still corrupt I don't really like trust you
Starting point is 00:26:51 and I still think it's gonna go down the same path and Tony's like nah it's all on me now I'm the best like S.H.I.E.L.D. America's gonna
Starting point is 00:26:57 suck him in his stupid face it's gonna be such a good movie I'm more excited for Civil War which sounds ridiculous weirdly I think everyone's excited for Avengers 2
Starting point is 00:27:04 just cause they know it's gonna start Civil War yeah sounds ridiculous no no weirdly I think everyone's excited for Avengers 2 just because they know it's going to start Civil War yeah it's going to be weird having Iron we've got this weird thing with the Marvel films
Starting point is 00:27:11 now though where like big consequences at the end of a film and there's just a film that's completely unrelated in between like Winter Soldier
Starting point is 00:27:16 followed by Guardians of the Galaxy the Guardians of the Galaxy was good but like I kind of want to know what's going on there guys mention S.H.I.E.L.D.
Starting point is 00:27:23 you should watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., please. You should watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., which changes direction after... Oh, yeah, I heard about that. I mean, don't, but you can. You've got a long slog to sit through. Yeah. To get to, like...
Starting point is 00:27:36 It's like 18 episodes before we're disordered. Yeah, like, there is a time when you're watching Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and you start really relating to a sandwich. This is what happened for me watching agent i just didn't care and there's a scene where the guy who's a complete prick um he's having like a buddy buddy with the fits and or simmons yeah and he's like got this sandwich and he describes the sandwich that the other one fits and or simmons made for fits and or simmons i don't know who they are and like he's made this sandwich or she's made the sandwich for him.
Starting point is 00:28:06 He's about to eat it. And this son of a bitch grabs the sandwich and throws it in like a puddle. What? And he's like, those sniffer dogs will track us. We can't eat that sandwich. And at that moment, you hate that guy for throwing away a sandwich. And that was the moment I was invested in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. If you ate the sandwich, there's no more sandwich.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Right? It doesn't make any sense. I know. I was so angry.ents of S.H.I.E.L.D. If you ate the sandwich, there's no more sandwich. Right? It doesn't make any sense. I know. I was so angry. Like, I come from a fucking W.O.G. family. You don't waste a delicious sandwich. Not in a puddle. Not in a puddle.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Very angry. Very angry. Thor. What do we think about him? Trapped in space or goes off to space. Yeah. Or died. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Or he's just like, enough. Had enough of this. Do you reckon that because, like I said earlier, that there's rumors that Loki is in it. Yeah. Or he's just like, enough! Had enough of this! Do you reckon that because, like I said earlier, that there's rumours that Loki is in it, that Loki will... They'll sort of be like, Thor will get called back to Asgard because Loki's just like, ha-ha, fucked everything up. I think it might possibly fall.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Because Ragnarok... I was going to say Ragnarok is next. Yeah. Or Ragnarok. So it has to lead into that, which means you have to get Thor off world for Ragnarok I was going to say Ragnarok is next yeah Ragnarok so it has to lead into that which means you have to get Thor off world yeah
Starting point is 00:29:06 for Ragnarok so I was thinking it might follow something similar storyline in the comics where Thor is unworthy oh cool yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:29:13 actually pick up his hammer that's the other thing people are saying Captain America wielding the hammer because you see in one of the trailers he shifts it
Starting point is 00:29:19 and yeah and Thor's like like that this was a party game, a little bit of a joke on everyone that wasn't me, but now I'm concerned and worried. That would be interesting to have. My identity gone.
Starting point is 00:29:33 That's a weird thing to have. An item that if someone else picks up becomes you. Oh man. Right? Yeah, that is weird. I actually have that. Yeah, good. It's stressful.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It's going to buy stuff on your credit card. Like, no! I've confused Thor's hammer and identity theft. This is Joel Dusha's magical band t-shirt. Let me wear it and become him. Why am I so angry now? What's going on? Why don't I want to do anything?
Starting point is 00:30:00 I just want to watch Mad Men 24-7. So I reckon, yeah, I think he's going to be made unworthy and lose his hammer. That's why he's stuck in the underworld or something. That'd be cool. I'd be cool with that. Yeah. And then Thor, like we've said before,
Starting point is 00:30:13 he's 100% going to space because they've said that he's not going to space too many times. In Hulk? In what? You said Thor. Oh, yeah, Hulk. Sorry. Yeah, Hulk.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Yeah, Hulk's going to space because they've said he's not going to space a billion times, so he must be going to space. Apparently, though, I heard that Universal still own the rights to a Hulk solo movie because they did the last one. Oh, really? So if they do do Planet Hulk, which they have talked about, it seems like they're thinking about it properly,
Starting point is 00:30:40 that they'll have to negotiate something with Universal. I'm going to go out on a limb and say they're going to mix it with Guardians of the Galaxy so that they get around it. Yes, that's the other thing as well. Which would be a good thing because a Hulk solo film is not good. Especially when he's Hulk the entire time. I feel like if they did do Planet Hulk,
Starting point is 00:30:55 I've said this before, that he'd have to be Bruce Banner in his downtime. Yeah. Because you can't just have Hulk. You can't just have Hulk the whole time because he can't, unless he's Grey Hulk. Yeah. Then people will't just have Hulk. You can't just have Hulk the whole time because you can't unless he's Grey Hulk. Yeah. Then people will be like
Starting point is 00:31:06 what? Or Doc Green. The general movie going public like what? Can I get a refund? Let's play the sad Hulk music
Starting point is 00:31:17 and I'll be fine. Oh if they okay I want this I want him in the space and yeah as the spaceship, just like as a hint of sad Hulk music being played. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Rocket into space. That would please me. You get sad Hulk music. I'm better. Fucking better. If he's going to space, you're getting sad Hulk music. The only thing is like, who sends him to space? Could be Ultron.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Ultron. Or he bundles Ultron into a rocket. Yeah, because Ultron, in an iteration of Ultron, he gets rocket to space as well. In the new version as well. Did you read Rage of Ultron? Ultron. Or he bundles Ultron into a rocket. Oh, yeah, because Ultron, in an iteration of Ultron, he gets a rocket to space as well. In the new version as well. Did you read Rage of Ultron? I did, yeah. Something like that happens at the end, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah. Well, that makes me think that's not going to happen then because I don't think that that would be like... Well, it's not Ultron. I don't want to spoil it, I guess. Nah, whatever. Look, if you're going to read Rage of Ultron, you probably would have read it by now.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yeah. Yeah, it sort of ultron bonds with hank pym um who is the father or creator in the comics um and then he just rockets into space and the new ultron has a heart that's human yeah oh that's that's deep about that yeah cool now he has emotions i'm guessing i don't think that's how a heart works but yeah i think that's where the emotions i think I think they're confusing brains and hearts. No, the emotions live in the heart. It's a classic...
Starting point is 00:32:30 It looks like he's got a clear circle, like a little window. So you'd be like, sir? Like, hot. Right there. Is it hot? You don't want people to see that. Proton blasted.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Yeah, not just like, oh. Are you dead now? Oh, wait, so it's Hank Grimm's heart. Yes, because they've merged. It's kind of like General Grievous, you know? It's like, oh, clearly a heart. That's your weak spot. I can see it.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I'm going to shoot it with a blaster. Done. Good. Sick. So stupid. Yeah, actually, Hank Pym, because it wouldn't make sense for other Ant-Men to be in it yet. Do you reckon Hank Pym, like Michael Douglas,
Starting point is 00:33:01 will make a... Michael Douglas? Yeah. Will make a sneaky... I don't think so. I guess it's because he's not a superhero. It's kind of hard for him. Well, I think he was in the 60s because he was the Ant-Man.
Starting point is 00:33:12 They've said that in the trailer. And then Paul Rudd, Scott Lang. Sorry, it's still going to be second Ant-Man because I watched the trailer once and I clearly wasn't paying enough attention because, yeah, I thought that he was sort of being like, I invented the suit, but it didn't really work out for me. It's better for you. Better for you, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I'm old for this. You'd look great in this. Because you're a thief. You need to break in and steal stuff or something. I don't know. I'm old for this. I'm looking forward to that, man. I hope they kind of keep it where he's got a daughter and shit as well
Starting point is 00:33:39 because that would be kind of cool, seeing Superhero Dad. Exactly. We haven't had that yet superhero dad that should be a movie just called superhero dad solid Avengers 3
Starting point is 00:33:51 superhero dad forget about Infinity War the people could wait we're showcasing the movies people want dad is superhero who else haven't
Starting point is 00:33:59 we discussed Black Widow oh yeah Black Widow she'll just you'll get a bunch of her backstory she'll be fine though because everyone likes her
Starting point is 00:34:05 Hawkeye dead done he's dying sure Quicksilver I'm also going out I reckon he'll die too two deaths that'll be a slap in the face
Starting point is 00:34:15 to Fox as well he'll be like we don't even need him yeah have a shit one yeah it'll just like shots fired it'll be sick
Starting point is 00:34:20 I'd respect that respect it more than if they use him well yeah also I guess it's funny to be a slap in the oh no no never mind I was thinking like fired it'd be sick i'd respect that respect it more than if they use him well yeah um also because it's funny to be a slap in honor no never mind i was thinking like fox also spider-man just came from them but no that's sony sony whatever don't worry about that spider-man not in this film the wonder wonder she'll be vision i reckon her sadness will be what, like, her sadness of losing her brother. Who she will blame on either Tony Stark or...
Starting point is 00:34:47 Hawkeye. Chris Rogers. You clearly have no hand in anything, so I know this was nothing. I feel like Hawkeye will die early on. Oh, wait, he's still in that scene with the bunker. Fuck. Do you think that the bit where he's like, listen, you're with us. If you walk out this door, you're an Avenger.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Maybe that's after he's died. Ultron killed him. And he's like, you're with us now. you walk out this door, you're an Avenger. Maybe that's after he's died. Ultron killed him. And he's like, you're with us now. Let's fucking rock and roll, mate. Yes. That sounds like something Hawkeye would say. Let's rock and roll, mate. Or it's like Hawkeye, it's his death speech.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Hawkeye is like dying and it's his dying thing. Maybe like Pietro. Like passing of the torch. Like passing the torch. They've done something. It's like accidental. He's dead. He's like, look guys, you killed me, whatever, hey.
Starting point is 00:35:28 But if you walk through that door, Avenger, mate. Take my bow. Take my bow. It's not for me. I can run fast, if that can, what can you do? You clearly, you've got on your team, you have like a guy in suit, super, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:35:45 Oh, archer. Oh, guy in suit. What do you do? Oh, Archer. Oh, you're dead. No wonder you're dead. Probably for the best. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I think that Quicksilver will die and that Scarlet Witch will blame his death
Starting point is 00:35:57 on one of the Civil War sites. If you have Wander in a Civil War, like that's dangerous. It depends on her level of power. I think she can make hallucinations and blast stuff. Yeah, she'll pretty much just have Iron Man powers. Because if she can alter reality... It'll be sort of like a combination of Loki and...
Starting point is 00:36:17 Scary. Sort of like a lower-powered Loki with the whole tricks. Yeah, yeah. Plus Iron Man blasts. So that she won't just be able to kill everyone in the drop of a hat. Yes. No more Tony Stark. Although, with Civil War, you can't split it too much
Starting point is 00:36:33 because you can't have teams by the end of it. I don't think they need to split it completely. I think they just need to sow the seeds. Because, I guess, yeah, you need people off Earth. Otherwise, during Captain America 3, you're going to need them there. Or people will be like, yeah, that's cool and all, but Hulk's still on Earth. What's he doing?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Sorry? We haven't talked about Vision. Oh yeah, Vision! Fuck, that's a big part of the movie. Yeah, that's going to be... He's going to be on the side of the devil, of Ultron himself, and then with the power of Wanda's love. Good guy. Do you reckon they're going to bring that in already? The love thing? Straight up.
Starting point is 00:37:04 He does have a soul gem in his head, possibly. Possibly. Possibly. And Wander is also the soul gem. Possibly. Possibly. Well, Thor does apparently go off-world at some point, so maybe he gets the soul gem.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Maybe that's what... Yeah, just... Just like Vision just thumbs it into his forehead. Hawkeye sacrifices himself to put the soul gem on the end of an arrow, shoots it into Vision's forehead. You get the soul of Hawkeye into the soul gem. That's how it works, right? That's how it works, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Soul caliber. Get the souls into the gem. Yeah, soul edge or something. Yeah. Soul caliber rules. Sure. And then just thumb it into his head. Oh, Vision.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Tony. I don't know. I don't know enough about Vision to like... His gem in the comics is a solar gem, which absorbs power. Like it's what powers him basically. But I feel like he doesn't really need that because he just have an arc reactor inside him.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Oh yeah, that's another thing we need to talk about. Tony Stark, because the end of Iron Man 3, he's cured. He's have an arc reactor inside him. Oh yeah, that's another thing we need to talk about. Tony Stark, because the end of Iron Man 3, he's cured. He's got an arc reactor again. Yeah. All the suits have them now. They all power themselves. Okay. I don't like it. That's just how it is. So he's still got
Starting point is 00:38:17 nothing in his chest, but all these suits... Just a gaping hole that they didn't sew up. So the suits still fit. You can see his heart. It's a little glass window. Maybe I misremember Iron Man 3, but I thought they used the extremist stuff to cure him.
Starting point is 00:38:33 No, people speculated that because the ending is super dumb and people don't like it when things they like have dumb endings. So they're like, oh, extremists, I guess. You just see him operating, getting operated on. Yeah, he's like, I went to China and had the best surgeons in the world Operate on me. That's literally Sort of use a bit of extremists to not help him cure. It makes sense But it's like not entered at all. It's just like that's just fan speculation because they need something to fill the void. Yes
Starting point is 00:38:59 Because the whole like the whole plot of the first Iron Man is that like he can't like there's so many times We almost dies because he's like I'm changing my arc reactor oh no Pepper put your hand in me gross I found that scene
Starting point is 00:39:14 oddly erotic so here Ultron what happens with him dead dead forever
Starting point is 00:39:20 yeah has to be I feel like in these Marvel things as well they kill villains forever no Loki's sometimes they're very liberal with that in Daredevil Forever. Yeah, forever. Has to be. I feel like in these Marvel things as well, they kill villains forever. No. Loki's- Sometimes.
Starting point is 00:39:27 They're very liberal with that in Daredevil. That's a different kind of kettle of fish. Oh, will Daredevil be in this? Nah, definitely not. They'll be a mention to Hell's Kitchen. Maybe. They'll probably be fucked. They'll be like, yeah, let's not.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yeah, like- Just like- You know the Ultron army, they just went over to Hell's Kitchen and then just leveled it. Went over to Hell's Kitchen and left it alone. It was too fucked. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:48 There was a guy like the devil of Hell's Kitchen who just fucking shut up like, no, for me. No, no, no. Yeah, they do kill villains. They killed Ro... What's his name? The Accuser. Rodan the Accuser.
Starting point is 00:39:59 They did, yeah. And they said he was dead forever as well. Which was disappointing because they thought he was a really good villain. I don't think he was used enough. They killed Malekith. All his arms came off or whatever. Yeah, but he was very forgettable. He was, wasn't he?
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah, he was barely... That movie was mostly just about Thor and Loki having a good time. Yeah. They killed Obadiah Stane. They didn't kill Abomination, did they? No, but they won't use him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Oh, yeah, because the Abomination, the whole thing with Abomination is Tony was going to get him to join the Avengers not Hulk it was going to be abomination because abomination's technically because in that movie
Starting point is 00:40:30 abomination because he's the army so he's the good guy but he's not the good guy he's not a good guy he's not at all or even a guy because yeah
Starting point is 00:40:37 abomination was going to so abomination is still alive oh if they get Tim Roth back I'll be happy that would be a very big surprise but he doesn't change back, does he? Abomination.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I hope he does. Isn't he always Abomination? He's always gross, yeah. Yeah. I think he should... He will never find love. No, Abomination might as well be dead. Obadiah Stane, does he die?
Starting point is 00:40:57 Does he get arrested? Yeah, he dies. He falls into an arc reactor and explodes. Oh, that's right. Yeah, he's dead. Redskull, I think, is still alive. Redskull's still alive. He's disappeared somewhere in time. Yeah, somewhere in space. Justin Hammer's still alive. He's in prison. Yeah, he's dead. Red Skull, I think, is still alive. Red Skull's still alive. He's disappeared somewhere in time.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Yeah, somewhere in space and whatever. Justin Hammer's still alive. He's in prison. Yeah, he's in prison, yeah. He's got a prison boyfriend. It's so cute. He's in prison with the Mandarin who isn't the Mandarin. Nah, he's escaped.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Who might be the Mandarin. Nah, Ben Kinsley has escaped. Yeah. Did you watch that one shot? Yeah. Did I? The real Mandarin people came up. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Yeah, yeah. Because there's a... Yeah, I have seen that one. Because the internet went, we're angry. Yeah. Did I? The real Mandarin people came up. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Because there's a... Yeah, I have seen that one. Because the internet went, we're angry. Yeah, we don't like that. And... Honestly, I love that. But the internet did not like it.
Starting point is 00:41:33 I don't know if they had planned it from the start or if it was just them sort of backpedalling a little bit. I don't think it was from the start. I think Guy Pearce even brought it up. I think I heard that somewhere. Really? That he was like, wouldn't it be funny if I was the Mandarin?
Starting point is 00:41:45 And they went, not funny. It'd be something. Something we should probably do. Oh, yeah. Guy Pearce, is he still alive? No. No, he exploded as well. Yeah, that's right. Extremists. Yeah, he breathed fire, never used it, then blew up.
Starting point is 00:42:01 No, what's her name? Pepper. Oh, yeah, she kicked a missile into his face or whatever. Yeah. Robert Redford died. Yeah. Rest in peace. That's a shame. I would have liked to see him again. Bucky's still alive.
Starting point is 00:42:12 No, Buddy. My buddy, Buddy. Buddy Holly lives with us. Yeah. Forever. American Pie got it wrong. Music never died. Buddy Holly is still alive. As you can see, he's being put to the silver screen as this brainwashed cyborg man by
Starting point is 00:42:26 the russians yeah so winter's winter soldier still alive but probably not a bad guy anymore yeah and he's got like nine films left yeah so he'll he'll probably captain america up or they can use falcon they can use either yeah they've got a lot of alive good guys and a lot of dead bad guys yes they probably need to level that out a little bit yeah yeah i hope they kill a lot of dead bad guys. They probably need to level that out a little bit. I hope they kill a lot of Avengers to be honest. Imagine! Oh yeah, because they said it's dark, but like, you could because you could, realistically, you could kill a bunch of supporting characters that people care about
Starting point is 00:42:53 but the films don't actually care about. You could kill Hawkeye. Hawkeye, War Machine? You could kill War Machine. Oh yeah, War Machine. You could kill Agent Hill. You could actually genuinely kill Nick Fury. Though she's appearing in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. apparently. You can't kill... Can't kill.
Starting point is 00:43:09 And you probably can't kill Nick Fury because he'd just die. Yeah, you're right. That's right. I'm saying you could if you wanted to. Yeah. Who else could you kill? You could kill both Wanda and... Yep.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Pietro. And imagine if they killed Vision as well. What if they just killed everybody? You could kill... Yeah, exactly. I feel like Vision probably might die. What if they just killed everybody? You could kill, yeah, exactly. I feel like Vision probably might die. I feel like Vision might be the one to defeat Ultron, but they'll both die.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Or a scene of the Hulk ripping him in half. Sick. How good. That would be pretty sweet. And then they'd put him in the rocket because they're like, that's not on. Yeah, he was our friend. Wanda loved him.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I just met him nah but you loved him you loved him I guess I did he was alright I guess he was kind of a weird robot soldier he was like
Starting point is 00:43:51 not really a robot but not really a human yeah how do we feel about Vision's look while we're talking about that I like it scary
Starting point is 00:43:57 yeah dead eyes eyes of a serial killer I love it slash shark I'm glad they didn't do the weird flesh coloured Vision from the 90s.
Starting point is 00:44:05 It's no good. Have you seen the new vision in the comics now? Yes. Very weird. Yeah, yeah. Glad they didn't do that either. Yeah. They've got, like, a good vision.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Yeah. It's a nice vision. They need to level the playing field, and I think that's definitely going to happen, and that's not even really a speculation. I feel like no one's going to listen to this and be like, oh, my God, I hadn't thought about that. I think a lot of people will also listen to this this and be like, oh my god, I hadn't thought about that. I think a lot of people
Starting point is 00:44:26 will also listen to this after and be like, a lot of that's wrong. Actually, let us know if anything was right. Yeah, that'd be cool. I guess we could,
Starting point is 00:44:34 let's just do an Avengers episode this week. Like another one, a follow up. We'll be back tomorrow and be like, okay, here's the things
Starting point is 00:44:40 we got right. Here's the things we got wrong. Everything. Apparently ballet school was a thing. They, they yeah there was a trip of them they went around in russia who knew you you me i did so i look forward to seeing that it's confessions of a dangerous ballet dancer um yeah no cool i think that's that's everyone nick fury he'll probably just go into hiding or something. I feel like we've missed a character.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And we're going to get an angry email about this. Hulk, Captain America, Iron Man, Coverthrow, Nick Fury. Oh, Falcon. Falcon will just be a supporting character. He'll probably be fine. Same with War Machine. Same with War Machine. He's not going to die. Oh, they kill off War Machine and Falcon.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Oh, no. Don't do that, Marvel. Step back, step back, step back. Black Panther and Claw, though Oh yeah, I don't think we'll see Black Panther But we will see Klaue We do see Klaue, we've seen him in the trailer We'll see Wakanda Yeah, I'd say so
Starting point is 00:45:34 What about Doctor Strange? Do you reckon he'll make an appearance? No Steven Strange? It's too early Might be wrong I mean, I've been wrong a lot Maybe, okay, how do you you get wander off the playing field because i think she's too powerful to be in civil war i don't we haven't seen much of her in the trailer
Starting point is 00:45:48 i know but i don't think to get her out of i'm not gonna kill her off i'm saying you would like a post credits or like a scene of her going to dr strange and being trained by him that would be cool that would be cool i'll be all for that kind of like what yeah because dr strange is in phase three yeah that's next i want to say september next of next year yeah yeah so that's a way to get wander out of the civil war because she could be in his like sanctum that's a cool i like that being all magic and shit because we know apparently based on we don't know anything because it's all apparently there's only one post-credit scene and it's in the middle. But that doesn't seem right and they lie about stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:46:25 They lie about stuff all the time. Oh, yeah. All the time. Like Hulk going to space. Yeah. Which is happening. That thing we know. He's going to, like, high-five with Khan on the way through.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Yeah. Lying to everyone. It turns out so good. Fans love it. How crap was Star Trek in darkness? So crap. Star Trek in darkness is fine. Yeah, I reckon I reckon like yeah
Starting point is 00:46:45 it'll be Wanda going up to what's his residence does he have a name yeah you said a Sanctum Sanctorium yeah you said that before
Starting point is 00:46:52 didn't you no but let's pretend I did Sanctum Sanctorium yeah I think that's right yeah the Sanctum that yeah I reckon
Starting point is 00:46:59 I want to look up to that just ring the doorbell and you'll get like an open door and Benedict Cumberbatch will be there oh yeah because they've cast him already
Starting point is 00:47:05 they've cast him giant collar oh is he gonna have Tony Hawk's Tony Hawk is he gonna have Tony Hawk's beard which is no beard
Starting point is 00:47:13 which is no beard or is he gonna have Tony Stark's beard which is a shit beard I reckon with Benedict Cumberbatch they're not gonna give him a beard they won't wanna there's too many beards
Starting point is 00:47:21 what about a little moustache no made famous by Charlie Chaplin yes giant moustache but like a What about a little moustache? Made famous by Charlie Chaplin? Giant moustache, but like a circus lion tamer moustache. Oh, beautiful, yeah. Bloody good one. Yes. Like, dastardly, evil.
Starting point is 00:47:35 That. That'd be great. So, okay. So, realistically, because that's the only one thing we haven't really discussed. I've touched on it. I bring it up all the time. But we haven't, like, a category yet. Do we think any future Avengers characters, like characters
Starting point is 00:47:46 we know that are going to appear in it, appear in the series later on, are going to make any cameos now? Spider-Man, we can all agree, probably won't. 100%. What about Captain Marvel? That's been rumored. I think it's been confirmed whether she is or isn't. Captain Marvel is still a very long way away. It's my only big issue.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I reckon she'll probably make a cameo in a later film. I reckon Stephen Strange, potentially Black Panther. Have they cast Black Panther? Yes. Chadwick Boseman. Oh, he rules. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Huh, good. I should follow this stuff. I have a podcast. Yeah, no, cool. I reckon... Oh, God, guys. What are you telling me? This is being recorded?
Starting point is 00:48:24 Shit. Lucky I did that intro. Yeah, okay. I reckon there's a chance that the people that have been cast are making an appearance, obviously, but they're not going to make a big casting announcement via Avengers. Yeah, that's probably true. And it's hard to keep those things secret as well.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Yeah. Because I can't imagine that a 15-year-old kid has been cast as Spider-Man that he hasn't told literally everybody he knows. They said he was going to be in high school, but I reckon they're still going to cast someone that's significantly older than that. You'll probably get a Jamie Bell type thing. You run the risk of being cast... David Schwimmer.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I want David Schwimmer. Nobody wants David Schwimmer. Ever. Or especially David Schwimmer. He'd be a good doc arc. No, you wouldn't. Not much to say. You'd be fucking rubbish and everything.
Starting point is 00:49:10 David Schwimmer, I'm glad you're not on my television anymore. Yes. The problem is when you cast young, you don't know what they're going to grow into. That is a risky run. Look at Boyhood. Exactly. That kid was relatively, like, as a kid, you're like, good, you look like you're going to be an actor. And then he went through a phase where he looked like Hayden Christensen.
Starting point is 00:49:27 And then he went through a phase where he does not have a good face. Looked like present day Hayden Christensen. I don't know what he looks like now. I don't even know what present day Hayden Christensen looks like. Haven't seen him on screen for years. What happened to you, buddy? He was in a movie with Nick Cage recently. Good for you, man.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Where they were having nights or something. Competition to who could act the most wooden? Yes. Who won? Well, he did, obviously. Cage is amazing. Leaving Las Vegas is legitimately a great film. Nicolas Cage, man. What happened? Stop saying yes to everything. Yes. He should
Starting point is 00:49:57 be in the MCU. He would have been a good Doc Strange. He would have been a great ghost writer. No, he wouldn't. That wasn't good at all. He had two shots. I completely forgot he'd already been a superhero. And he was Superman at one point. Yes. In Flyby?
Starting point is 00:50:12 No, that was the Abrams one. He was in the Tim Burton one. Superman Lives. With like, oh, the black suit? Yes. The mullet. That's great. That's really something.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I'm glad that those films didn't get made. I kind of want to see it. I really do. I was thinking it would be good, but great. That's really something. I'm glad that those films didn't get made. I kind of want to say it. I really do. I was thinking it would be good, but yeah. It'll be something. Much like Avengers 2, it'll be something.
Starting point is 00:50:32 And hey, if we weren't right, at least we were something. That's right. And on that note, I've been Joel. I've also been Joel. I've been James.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Let us know how wrong we were, I guess, at our Twitter. Tweet us at SansPenceRadio. We're all going to go see the film in the next 24 hours, so don't be too stressed about spoilers. And if you live in the Melbourne area, you might see us.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yep. Good luck. Wave. We'll wave back. Wave. You know what me and Joel look like. You don't know what James does. We don't either.
Starting point is 00:50:59 He's wearing a bag. They make me wear the bag, by the way. It's not my choice uh for james just see the kind of weird looking guy with a goat head yep that's right that's the one back of some furniture like i thought that was a joke that's right yeah it's pretty good like oddly enough you do have a weird goat like face i know thank you i think but, Avengers, it'll be sick. Good, tweet us. Enjoy, and may your Avengers assemble themselves like Lego. Good.
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