Plumbing the Death Star - Which Disney Villain Has The Dumbest Plan?
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Hey everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of Flumming the Death Star, where we ask the
important questions like, which Disney villain has the dumbest plan.
Okay.
Okay.
So I'm going to put forward Cruella DeVille.
Call the evil.
Oh, my God.
I know.
Hang on let me
See you
So her plan
For those who don't know anything about 101 Dalmatians
First off
Those two Dalmatians
Pogo and Perry Winkle or whatever
Pogo and Perry White
The two Dalmatians
Rocky and Bull Winkle
They don't actually have 101 Dalmatians
Like my kid brain thought.
They have 15.
Anyway.
That would kill an adult female dog.
That would.
Just straight up to that many puppies.
Just popping them out like Maltesers.
That body would.
Yeah, she'd die.
So I guess that makes sense.
Disney didn't want to display that.
I get that.
Understandable.
So she.
I did not know that.
Yeah, right?
I just assumed it was 100.
Why is it called 101?
Think about it for a second.
Disney's not going to show a female dog
popping out 101 Dalmatians and then dying.
Jackson, Jackson, I've got some news for you.
This movie also doesn't show a dog
pop out any amount of Dalmatians.
That's fucked up.
Are you telling me the Disney anime
has never animated a live puppy?
In the animation...
What the fuck?
In the animation, I think she has more puppies.
It's the live action one.
It's just like, yeah, you get the... What's her name? I think she has more poppies. It's the live action one.
What's her name?
I forget.
Played by whatever.
She's just there with the dog vision being like,
come on, it's coming, it's coming.
And you see it all in HD.
It's been in a hundred countries.
That's what's coming to Disney Plus with Emma Stone.
Live dog birth.
This summer.
2021, actually.
Summer of 2021.
So her plan is
I think
The owner of the Dalmatian
Is like
She's a
Roger
That's one of the guys
That is
That's true
Roger and
Wife
So wife
Anita
Anita
Oh my god
It is startling
How much we remember
About 101 Dalmatians
I'm impressed
Anyway
I'm light-headed.
Pogo.
And periwinkle.
And there's like a P word.
Yeah.
Perzo.
Perzo?
Pazuzna.
I want to say Spot, but it's not Spot.
That's not right at all.
That's a dog.
That's the other dog.
That's the dog from Spot the Dog.
What's Spot, though?
Spot the Dog.
Spot.
I love Spot.
Anyway, that's how I learned how to read on Spot.
Anyway.
They didn't do a good job.
Yeah, terrible. Oh, wait, no, that's Jackson. Go on. Go on. I would love to hear Anyway, that's how I learned how to read on Spot. Anyway. They didn't do a good job. Yeah, terrible.
Oh, wait, no, that's Jackson.
Go on.
Go on.
I would love to hear you.
Disney villain play.
So Anita, she draws nice little outfits for Quela de Vil,
and she loves black and white.
She loves stripes.
And then one day Anita's looking at her Dalmatian.
She's doing a bit of a doodle, and she's like,
oh, look, I've got a little spotty dress.
And then Quela's like, I need to make a dress out of Dalmatian skin.
Yes.
I'm going to stop you there.
That's the most fucked up plan for a coat I've ever heard.
It's awesome that she only gets the idea when she sees a drawing
of a dotty dress.
She's not like, what about a dress with spots?
She's like, what about a dress made of dog?
And not just any dog, the puppies.
The smoothest of all the dog, the puppy.
Well, look, I just don't know, Hank, maybe you can maybe treat puppy skin,
but I don't know.
To me it just seems kind of gross.
Like everyone's like, oh, this is like a mink fur suit,
or this is, oh, look at this, this is a real fox.
Someone's like, this is a mutt.
This is a dog.
Who's impressed?
Dogs I killed.
No one's impressed by that. This is a question that. This is a dog. Hey, who's impressed? Dogs I killed. No one's impressed by that.
This is a question that I was asking earlier.
Say I came into the studio in a brand new dog skin coat.
Okay, now assuming your respect starts for me at 10.
Yes.
Okay, so that's a big assumption.
Let's honestly say our respect for you starts at a 3.
Okay.
Hey, we don't have a scale. It could be 10 out of 100. Yeah, you don't know. At the moment it's 10. Let's honestly say our respect for you starts at a three. Okay. Hey, we don't have the scale.
It could be 10 out of 100.
Yeah, you don't know.
At the moment, it's 10.
Let's say it's a three.
Okay, and I come in wearing a dog skin jacket
that makes me look fly as hell.
How much have you dropped or possibly raised?
I'm willing to accept that as a possibility.
Yeah, I'm glad you're happy to accept the impossible
as a possibility.
Yeah.
Do we know it's dog straight away?
Yeah, I come in and I say, guess who got dog?
Like that? Yes.
I'm confused at first. Unless, is it raining or is it dry that day? It's dry.
It's sunny. Okay, that's alright.
I'm sweating. Dog doesn't breathe.
Okay, I come in and say
dog doesn't breathe.
Another thing about the dog suit or the dog
jacket is like,
I was imagining,
Oh,
I imagine getting caught in the rain and that smell of wet dog.
And now it's all on you,
but now just sweat.
So it's a wet dog mixed with sweat.
Okay.
Sweat dog.
New scenario.
I come in and it has been raining,
but I don't announce it.
And I just sit down and you smell wet dog and notice my new jacket.
And you're like,
have I put two and two together? Is that dog hair? Is Jack's? And I'm sit down and you smell wet dog and notice my new jacket. And you're like, have I put two and two together?
Is that dog hair?
Is Jack's?
And I'm like, yes.
My respect plummets.
I was already so long.
Yeah.
We're probably sitting at like a negative 11 or 12.
Yeah.
Look, I'm like, okay, he made a choice.
Weirdly, my question would be how much did you pay?
Uh-huh.
And what have you? I would say you can't put a price
on a jacket like this.
You can't put a price on your soul
by doing that. The devil's coming
for you.
Xamarin remains a 10.
I think I do because I'm just like
king of the world.
I own a leather jacket.
Yeah, what's the difference eat a dog
who gives a shit
God is dead
yeah so
look maybe
it would stay
maybe a nine
maybe an eight
I'll take that
such a little drop
I don't even mind
you could have just
like a leather
I would have been like
did you
I would have had more questions
please shit
I've got answers
so okay
so you've said
this is a dog jacket this is a dog jacket.
This is a dog jacket.
Yeah, I announce it like that.
I've got a new way of talking.
Yeah, I figured.
You're like, what if I'm Oprah?
Very proud of these new acquire.
Why are you talking like that?
I'm like, I watched 24 hours of Oprah packed back.
Whilst this jacket was being created for me.
Did you commission this? Yeah, I for me. Did you commission this?
Yeah, I commissioned it. And I
chose the dog and then while I was waiting, all
they had on the little TV was Oprah DVDs.
5, 4, 4,
maybe a 3. It's a 3 now.
But I watched them and it took 24 hours.
Is it made of one dog or have you picked a litter
of dogs? It's a litter because one dog's not
enough. Okay, so you have picked a litter
of dogs knowing that they've all been killed to make a jacket that's presumably disgusting. It's a litter because one dog's not enough. Okay, so you have picked a litter of dogs knowing that they've all been killed
to make a jacket that's
presumably disgusting. It's just like wearing
a calf, dude. At what level of respect
do you have to call the cops on someone?
Zero? Is Zero calling
the cops? Who's just at negative 11
who should have killed me?
Hey, I got a
dog jacket. Bang! Guys, you
gotta get, everyone's's like We get it dude
It's funny
Because I said
I started at a three
For zero
Calling the cops
I was already so close
Yeah yeah
In theory
I'm just like
Hey you know
What's the difference
If you're wearing a leather jacket
This kind of leather boots
You've gone
I'm just like
Get out of the way
Sandman
I'm gonna do
What we needed to do
Eight years ago
I'm gonna shoot Jackson In the head Be my guest I'm gonna to do what we needed to do eight years ago. I'm going to shoot Jackson in the head.
Be my guest.
I'm going to wear my new Jackson coat.
And then, okay, so let's just say hypothetically your respect for me starts at a 10.
Yeah.
You've watched me shoot Jackson.
Then the next week I come in wearing a man jacket.
I'm like, it's crazy none of us called the cops.
Our good friend Jack got shot
in the back of the head.
But man, are you looking
fly in that jacket. Did you drive
here?
Stopping at a service station to get gas.
Nobody giving you a look. Give him a little wave.
It's man. Are you anybody else
imagining it's got a hood that is my head?
It's just like the jaw.
My face like...
I was imagining your beard like sitting under my head.
So it's like...
That's so bad.
Powerful.
The service station man loved it.
Yeah, I turned 20.
Yeah, I made it 20.
That's incredible.
Guess who was mad now?
I watched that.
24 hours.
I went to the same place Jackson did.
Yeah, that's all they got on.
So, Cruella DeVille.
So, she's like, I want this puppy.
I want a spotted jacket made of puppy.
First off, it's like you can get many spotted jackets in black and white that aren't puppy.
They'll be easier to acquire.
Again, you know what else is spotted and we often kill for clothing?
Jaguars.
Cows.
All right.
What?
I don't know why Jaguar has the same spots that Dalmatian does,
whereas a cow is like a big splodge.
That's true.
I mean, yes.
You're not wrong.
Now it's funny to imagine, like,
so, like, the same way that you get, like, a cowhide rug,
but there's a jacket.
That's a yuck jacket.
A puppy jacket also looks bad.
Is anybody else imagining the puppy jacket, like, puppy,
like a bearskin rug where they're like that,
but several puppies sewn together in that shape?
Yeah.
So it's obviously made of puppies.
Yeah, I'm imagining the one that you see in the movie.
I don't think she makes that out of, oh, the drawing.
Yes.
I was like, the movie doesn't end with a succeeding.
Bold new direction that the 2021 film is going.
Can we figure out how many puppies it would take?
101.
Oh, wow.
Excuse me.
That's why, because in the sequel, which, you know,
it's 102 because she needs an extra one for the hood.
That doesn't seem like enough puppy for a whole hood.
Stretched as a thin hood.
Oh, no, that's fair.
I guess if it's just for fashion.
So, yeah, so her plan is like, yes, okay,
even if it's a dumb idea to be like, I want to wear puppy.
Let's be like, all right, you're wearing puppy.
Cool.
She's like, ah, yes.
A good, one of my employees or good confidence or friends,
they've got puppies that I want to steal.
Anita. And so she dog n got puppies that I want to steal. Anita.
And so she dog naps them because they refuse to sell.
They go to Scotland Yard.
Right.
And Scotland Yard can't, like, either A, can't solve this puzzle
or B, like, we have murders.
What?
If I was Scotland Yard, I would be like,
you're telling me a fake story.
Nobody owns that many dogs.
Swim.
15 dogs.
15. 15.
You and your husband or boyfriend or partner or housemate,
don't know their relationship, can't remember, own 15 dogs.
15 dogs?
Why do you live in a mansion?
Oh, no, not a mansion.
A bloody regular house.
A flat.
A flat with 15 dogs.
15 fucking dogs.
I didn't realise I was chatting in a coach
Oh boy
Oh you're making lovely check out corgis aren't you
Greg get out of here
15 fucking dogs
Do you want to tell him how many dogs you claim to own
15
Sorry that's not including the father and mother of the dog
17 Sorry, that's not including the father and mother of the dog. Oh!
17!
17 dogs. You better turn around and walk away before I shoot you in the head.
Fuck off.
Slam.
Sorry, it's a crowd of Deville.
This is the UK.
I don't have a gun, but I will illegally obtain a gun,
come back and shoot you in the fucking head.
I will chase you
with my baton
like it was Benny Hill
but it will end
with your murder
great
play the music
play the music
man Benny Hill
but there's a chance
you'll die
scary ass
there's a chance
this man was held back
he wanted it
so yes
so the fact of the matter
is don't lie to cops
in the UK
the bobbies
they'll get you so Cruella de Vell she's like
I steal these, she gets two lackeys
I forget their names, maybe Dexter
Buster and James
She's like alright get those 15 puppies
Buster and Jones
They steal these 15 puppies
They go somewhere cold, I forget where but it's snowing
Probably Scotland
And she's also acquired another 84 Dalmatians.
Okay.
And then there's this whole big ringerob, and she's like,
all right, we've got to do this.
And then she's like, we need to kill these puppies now
before the cops find out.
Yes.
And that's when the puppies have their major escape.
Now, several things I want to say why this plan is dumb.
One, because she sends Bubsy and Jones to do it.
I mean, look, drowning a dog, especially a puppy, seems to be easy.
And I'm guessing Cruella could do it herself.
I feel like if you got 101 Dalmatians and just left them, they'd die.
Especially as puppies.
Or you'd end up with one really strong Dalmatian.
A strong fat one.
You open the door and a big fat Dalmatian's like,
you're like, the bad version of this happened.
The bad version of this.
That's going to be the best coach.
This is the worst of those two.
Dad, mauls.
She stole a bunch of puppies when she could have easily gone to,
I don't know, the pound?
Yeah, well, there wouldn't be Dalmatian puppies from now.
And also the pound won't let you adopt 101 dogs.
Yeah, that's...
101 fucking dogs?
101 fucking...
What are you, the queen?
And the same thing happened.
Yeah.
I'm so sorry, your majesty.
101 fucking dogs.
Get out before I shoot you in the head.
We only have dog tranks here, but I will shoot enough of you.
Or you will die.
That is my word to you.
Greg, play the music.
Darts going everywhere.
Intense.
So, I guess it's very dumb because there are better ways of acquiring those dogs
and making sure they don't escape.
Breeding dogs is the thing you can do.
Breeding dogs you could do.
You can go to the shop and buy a jacket.
You could just buy a jacket.
Again, you could just get a nice leather jacket.
You could do it out of synthetic.
You could do so many things.
My question about Cruella de Vil.
Okay, so she got the 17, no, sorry.
15.
15 puppies.
And then 84.
Now those 84 puppies, were they also pets?
Or did she get them from a dog breeder and then out of fury and spite got Anita's puppies to prove a point?
I think it was out of a bit of spite because she kind of missed her at work and hated Roger.
In the thing, she does hate Roger.
But she's like, I would like to buy your puppies.
And both Roger and Anita are like, this woman's going to kill our puppies.
And either eat them like she's got a good face for eating rats,
if you know what I mean.
Yeah.
Dangling a puppy into it.
How good's the song Cruella de Vil, though?
Cruella de Vil, Cruella de Vil.
If she doesn't eat rats, nobody will.
That's how it'll become Santa Claus is coming to town.
Cruella's gonna eat some rats.
Yeah, no, it's not a clever plan.
And also, like, I'm trying to imagine that,
I mean, like, I guess it was like the what, the 40s?
I don't know when it's set.
But imagine, what, 60s?
That's just funny.
I don't know when it's set.
I don't know, the 40s.
Wars happening, Cruella.
Don't you know we're in a war?
101 fucking puppies.
I'm shooting Germans.
The blitz is happening, Cruella.
Hitler's at the door, Cruella.
Are you all worrying about puppies?
Is it set in the UK?
Yeah.
Okay, just checking.
No, it might be set in the 60s, actually.
But Warlock's happening, Cruella?
Jimmies!
Jimmie Hendrix has set his guitar on fire.
There's so many more important things happening.
But I feel like, so imagine on the fashion scene, 1963,
Cruella DeVille comes out, she's like, my new coat.
And everyone's like, that is made of dog.
Everyone's like, interesting, what's it made of? And she't gonna hide it either dog darling dog and everyone's like yuck
you're fired i don't know if we can do that you're out yeah she would get 1960s cancelled
again the idea of like oh it's a mink coat yeah it's kind of like oh fancy because
gruel happened we live this is like too far on the gruel.
Yeah.
There's a distinction about what furs you can wear.
Some people want no furs, but very few people are like pets.
You know what I mean?
No one comes out and like, look at my parrot suit.
Counterpoint is the 60s, a time where, so in pop culture
and like movies that have dated poorly have taught me this,
dogs and cats, like pets being killed,
was played for slapstick comedy.
That's true.
A good example of that is like the Vacation series,
which I am aware is not set in the 60s.
Boondock Saints, also not set in the 60s or 70s.
Or a comedy.
Or a comedy.
Okay.
So maybe that was a period of time where people were like,
wow, you killed 100 dogs.
So if she'd been like, they're been like what's your coat made out of
And she'd be like dog
Great joke
Did you accidentally kill one by setting your fart on fire
With a cigarette or something
That would have been great
I'm just happy dogs are dead
Everybody in the 60s
That's a direct quote
How often could you wear that coat Well like anything in the 60s That's a direct quote Also How often could you wear that coat?
Well like anything
In the high stakes world of fashion
You'd probably wear it for a week
And then throw it in a bin
Because
Once
Once
You seem that she's going to great lengths
She's going to
Right
I'm going to commit dog theft
Which apparently is still a crime
You will report to Scotland Yard
In the 60s
So she's like
I am going to commit this crime.
Then we're going to fuck off into somewhere
where it's cold and snowing.
Because I'm assuming there they can happily kill the dog.
The dogs will freeze to death.
So she's already on the land.
Dalmatians do look fragile.
Well, they're like-
Okay, how do you get them?
So she puts them in a bag or something, presumably.
Hit them with a bat.
Just give them one whoop,
and then you get a lot of Dalmatians. Go to Scotland a bat. Just give them one whoop, and then you've got a lot of damnation.
Go to Scotland Yard.
No, because what you want to do there, though,
is because you want the integrity.
No, the integrity of the fur.
Yeah.
You know?
Realistically, you want to drown them,
because then the fur will be fine.
But then it's wet.
Well, that's a good point.
But it's on the body.
You just dry them out with a hairdryer.
Wring them out.
I don't like this.
I don't like this. I don't like this.
Respect for me, myself went down.
I'm up to a 10.
Jackson's put himself at 10 out of 100.
That's pretty good.
I think I put myself at a 4 right now.
Out of 100?
Yeah.
I don't like this.
Still at the same 80 I started at.
I think it's dumb in that it's kind of like
the end result of her plan is a dog jacket
that no one's going to be impressed or care about
she's committing a lot of
crimes to begin with
for simply a jacket
and she's doing that despite
because she hates someone's husband
counterpoint, fashion world is
absolutely cooked and fucked at the best of times
maybe she gets applauded on a
runway for years maybe she's there like incredible avant-garde outfit wow she's changed the game and
then dog skin clothing becomes the norm yeah well hey maybe that's it's a tough one to say uh i mean
like jared leto rocked up to a thing with holding a head or whatever and everyone's like right yeah
that's true love fashion that true. I reckon that there's
a chance that it was a brilliant plan and if
she'd been like, and I murdered these dogs for
it, everyone would have been like, not only
is that a great joke, we're impressed.
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So, Kralos plan.
Yeah, so how are we thinking on the dumb scale?
What is the dumb scale, Joel Zabnett?
From dumb to not dumb.
For everyone listening.
From a doucher to a Jackson.
Oh!
That's a pretty good...
If you imagine superimposed over us as a scale,
it works very well.
Dumb, not dumb.
Yeah.
Sometimes dumb.
Yeah.
I think that if you...
It's somewhere in between a Zammid and a Jackson.
Yeah.
It's dumb, but it's also very cruel and just violent.
So it's more just like a psychopath plan rather than a dumb plan.
Just wants people to suffer, I guess.
I would say it's more maybe in the middle.
Yeah.
It's a summon.
It's a summon.
It's a summon on the dumb scale.
Okay, okay, okay.
What do you got, JD?
I like the idea of a Disney villain that just has a ridiculous end goal.
Or an end goal that's achievable but goes about it in a ridiculous way.
Yeah.
Which is why I'm picking Ursula from the little mermaid who plan is to,
I guess,
basically just,
she wants to rule the ocean.
Who doesn't?
I mean,
hell yeah.
Including turning merpeople into her garden ornaments.
Yeah.
The poor unfortunate souls,
the little worm dudes.
They're my favorite part of The Little Mermaid.
Help us!
Poor Unfortunate Souls is also a fucking banger of a song.
Oh, it's great.
I know that it's good, can't remember how it goes.
I just know that I know that song and I like it.
But step one of her plan is to trick Ariel
into thinking that Ariel wants legs
in exchange for her voice.
How would you trick me into thinking I want legs?
Hi, I'm Jackson.
I was born with maybe a crab's bottom instead of mermaid legs.
Well, it'd be like tricking you.
I hate your legs.
Do you want these legs?
Oh, no.
Yes.
It'd be tricking you into getting a fishtail.
Yeah, that's true.
Hey, you want to go for big swims?
Yes.
Hey, give me a fishtail already.
No, the easiest way to trick it.
Hey, Jackson. What? Yeah, how you doing? You ever wanted to fuck a fish? all right you know these are trick hey John yeah
how you doing you ever want to fuck a
fish yes in the sea yes anyway anyway
chop chop you're gonna need a fish fish
legs more importantly a fish cock all
right let's do it I'll sort that out one
thing you gotta give me your voice okay
I don't talk underwater anyway it'll
make me quieter when I orgasm drop big
fat loaded.
That'll be my face.
But with no sound.
I say no, you've got a good point. It's easy.
How funny is it to look at someone
in the face as they pretend to orgasm while I'm
imagining them fucking a fish before.
It's great to imagine the
Ariel, like Ursula's like, you can have legs
and Ariel's like, what else can I have? And she's like,
oh no. Give me an octopus
body. It's not really that kind of deal.
I want to roll the sea.
So in the movie
what happens is she uses Ariel's voice
to then trick
Prince Eric who Ariel
loves into marrying her and then Ariel gets put to then trick Prince Eric, who Ariel loves,
into marrying her.
And then Ariel gets put under a curse or something.
Look, the end is a little bit...
So Ursula's end goal is to get a beautiful voice
because Ariel is a beautiful voice.
And then to go to Prince Eric and be like,
I am a beautiful princess, right?
And then Prince Eric is like, let's get married.
And then she rules not the sea, but whatever kingdom Prince Eric ruled.
Yeah.
Prince Eric's like, okay, the kingdom is in the shit.
Kings, no good.
That's crazy as well, because she didn't know about Prince Eric
until Ariel brought it to her attention.
That means Ariel came to her and was like, hey, there's this prince I want to bone,
and she was like, that sounds good.
Yeah, give me your voice.
I'll give you legs. I'm going to fuck him instead instead what's wrong with ursula's voice i don't know
it seemed nice to me yeah yeah nice and gravelly a little yeah nice and gravelly
prince eric being like ah yes this ah song of the siren now i get it now yeah no i want that voice
with ursula though it was basically that um they based her character off Divine, the actress.
Also car salesman.
So imagine her using Ariel's voice to sell underwater cars.
It would be great if she's like,
I need to get on land and I need to sell Hyundai's.
Give me your voice quickly, Ariel.
So the movie kind of insinuates that her end plan is, in fact,
just to have the kingdom under the sea,
decorate a garden with poor unfortunate souls,
etc, etc. Great song. How does it go?
But really, the true end goal
if she had succeeded that was then to
trade the kingdom under the sea
for legs to then go onto
the land to sell Hyundai's.
Yes.
Just checking. That makes a lot of sense.
But just the idea of
sir
yeah
you're both in relationships
it's true
if
would you be
seduced
by someone
that you meet
out of the blue
yeah
on a beach
the voice
oh right
of
yes
your significant other
well I don't
you're like time for me to dump that person.
Well, what I think is crazy is that Ariel's lack of voice
like hampers her way more than it should.
At no point is she like, does she gesture to Prince Eric
and then gesture to the, you know what I mean?
Like she never, I guess she doesn't know sign language.
Not that she knows ASL.
But like, I just feel like that there's something
she could have done to get across to
Prince Eric that Ursula stole her voice.
You know?
Yeah.
So wave a bit.
So you're going to wave a bit and then point to your throat.
I should have been like, hey, can you talk through this?
Yeah, I was like, is Dusha
panicking? What's going on?
I'll be Prince Eric. Zama can be Ursula
as Ariel's voice.
Okay.
Okay, so.
What?
What's my goal here?
Well, I guess your goal is to stop Prince Eric from thinking that what I'm saying is true.
Yeah.
But not saying acting.
So I'll do some of these.
Yeah.
I don't know why this crazy broad is confused.
Yeah, me neither.
What's going on?
Me, Prince Eric, this new woman needs a lozenge.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm feeling a little bit of the...
Thanks for bringing that to my attention, Ariel, babe.
Thanks, sweetie.
Okay, needs a big hoagie.
Back to the sea you go.
Back to the sea he goes.
Excuse me, that is a human woman.
What are you saying?
Sea mustard.
Oh, my God. Excuse me, that is a human woman. What are you saying? See, he's lost it.
You know how sometimes we should just, you know, drown people?
It's so great to be like, this is a mermaid.
I know this seems crazy, but this is a mermaid.
So what did her thing end up really like?
So she just wanted to rule the sea and also the... If she is a powerful sorceress, surely she
could have done it. Yeah. Could she not just
kill Ariel and take her skin?
Yeah. Well, King Triton
wouldn't have enjoyed that. Triton?
Triton. Triton. Yeah.
Aquaman. I don't know. Who the fuck knows?
No one can remember. Yeah. Ocean Lord.
No one has seen movies.
No.
It's not the greatest plan. And also, I don't know if Atlantis? Is that where they live? A Tr plan, and also I don't know if
Atlantis, is that where they live?
A Tritontopia. I don't know if it's that
good. I don't really know what Ursula gets
out of it, really.
At the end of the day.
But even like, just stealing
someone's voice to use it for nefarious purposes
unless those purposes are prank phone
calls. Couldn't she just
like magic it so her voice
sounds nicer
and then kill Ariel?
Surely this ends in Ariel's murder, right?
Right?
I'm fucking pretty now and I'm going to shoot you in the head.
Boom!
Underwater shotgun.
Harpoon!
That is the underwater shotgun of the sea.
It's true.
Prince Eric is a trooper, though.
He never seems confused about what's going on and I appreciate that.. Prince Eric is a trooper, though, for a deal.
Like, he never seems confused about what's going on,
and I appreciate that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Prince Eric was always just like,
this lady can't talk, this lady can't, whatever,
welcome to the kingdom.
I'm not worried, baby.
Fuck, whatever era I'm from is wild.
It's either pre- or post-Woodstock.
I'm just trying to, because everything is.
Ursula's a very powerful sea witch.
She turns herself into Vanessa.
She turns herself into Vanessa.
I remember very specific things, but not all things.
Does she need reagents, certain things to do certain things?
No, it's a contract.
She's like the devil.
Yeah.
She's a squid devil.
Octopus lady.
That's very funny.
If the devil did that trick to me, but for fish legs,
so I could fuck a fish,
the ironic punishment bit would be that I wouldn't be near the sea and I'd die on a highway.
I'd burn in the sun and then someone would hit me with their car
and I'd be covered up by the government.
One has to assume.
One has to assume.
Just like, what have we got here?
Oh, my fucking God.
So that's just his face.
Keep pulling Is that a fish cock?
Has he been
He wanted to fuck fish but it didn't work out
They're clever
They're detectives
What's the reverse of an o face
Because I imagine that's what you're doing
An in face
Like
Like a sour,
like a sour.
Yeah,
like a sourpuss face.
I died in the sun
instead of making love
to a fish.
Making love to a fish.
You want to be making love
to a fish?
I died in the sun.
I didn't get to.
No,
when you get put in the sea,
you're not making love
to anything.
You are fucking its brains out and leaving. Yeah, you're not cool love to anything. You are fucking its brains out and leaving.
Yeah, you're not calling that fish.
Yeah, you don't love that fish.
You fuck that fish.
It's going to flop up on the beach and be like, I did it.
I did it.
Ursula changed me back.
So.
Yes.
Pretty dumb plan.
Yes.
Where do we put it on the scale?
What do you reckon?
See, when I went into this, I was like, it's very dumb
because stealing someone's voice is stupid as hell.
But then I remember prank phone calls.
Yeah, great point.
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure it was in like the 1860s.
Prank yelling.
Prank yelling.
Oh, it's me.
You go up to someone's door and they're like, what?
Just through the keyhole.
And you're like, is your refrigerator right?
Sorry.
Is your icebox working?
They're like, who are you?
And you're like, and you run away.
That's medieval prank phone calls.
Yelling into a castle window.
Hi.
Hi.
Hey, that voice sounds like that fish lady
Yep
What's she even going to do with a voice
I don't know it's a dumb plan
It's a dumb plan
Squirrelly sorely on the Jackson Bailey side of it
See I think the more I think
Yeah I do because I keep getting distracted by the fact she wants to rule the sea
I'm like that's fine
Great
Step one of no plan should start with such a ridiculous step one.
No, absolutely.
Step one, steal the princess's voice.
Look, if my plan is to buy a new car,
and then step one of that plan is to fuck the sandwich I have in my fridge.
It's a bad beginning.
I'm going to be like, hey, dude, think of a new plan.
End goal, great, makes sense. Step one, let of a new plan. End goal. Great. Makes sense.
Yeah.
Step one.
Let's talk that through.
Why?
Let's knock that out.
That's my plan.
You can do the whole plan without Eric.
You know, that whole thing.
Again, just kill Eric.
Well, it seems like the real.
It's so easy to kill Eric.
It seems like the real result of her plan, though, is Ursula pretends to be Vanessa.
Ursula gets on that ship.
Prince Eric marries Ursula. They sail
to the dry land somewhere.
Ursula's like, I don't have the sea.
This plan didn't work.
This plan is the opposite of work.
Unfortunately, now I am a princess
in a castle. Whoops.
Surely if she wanted to rule the sea.
What are the domains there? Couldn't she just
shove off to the next part and be like, Drayton,
where's your wall? The sea's big, so just pick another bit, Urs't you just, like, chuff off to the next part and be like, Triton, where's your wall? Yeah, Z's big, so, like,
just pick another bit, Ursula.
Yeah, just give Ariel
blap-blap two hoppers in the brain.
Absolutely.
Maybe you don't have to Triton
while you're at it.
Yeah.
And that crab.
Hey!
Sebastian!
Why do you have a Jamaican accent
but no one else does?
Are you from Jamaica?
Leave me alone!
Did you migrate?
Did you travel here?
What's going on? I'm Sebastian
but I'm not doing the accent just
to be clear.
I would never do the accent.
You're not just a random other crab being like, hey!
Crab solidarity! Hey, I'm
Steve the fucking crab and I will kill
you. Leave him alone!
Two in the head with a harpoon gun. Shooting a crab
with a shotgun. Wow.
Jesus Christ, this has been a harpoon gun. Shooting a crab with a shotgun. Wow. Jesus Christ, that rule.
This has been a gun-heavy episode.
It really has.
A very murder-heavy episode.
Shooting a crab's not...
Shooting Sebastian is.
Ursula, squarely in the dom side.
What would a crab look like?
A splatter.
A splatter.
It would just be crab juice in a pan.
Vaporized.
To a crab, a shotgun is just a laser.
It doesn't know the difference.
One minute it's there, then it is gone.
What's awesome as well is that a crab's always looking forward.
So if you pull the shotgun off from above,
that crab just is alive one minute and isn't the next.
In many ways, it's the most humane way to kill a crab.
The crab is in crab heaven.
I honestly don't know what happened.
What happened?
What the hell?
We get crab rules.
One second I was on the beach
looking for sand to turn into balls.
The next second I'm in heaven
doing the same thing with cloud, I guess.
What the fuck?
I'm so lost.
An angel comes and bangs.
It's crazy that no one explained to that crab it'd die.
Welcome to heaven.
What?
Yeah, come in.
Did I die?
We don't talk about that.
Don't worry about how.
You're here now.
That's what matters.
This is what heaven is, beaches, and we need crabs.
Come on.
All crabs are holy.
You're going to be digging holes and then putting little balls of sand
outside those holes for the rest of eternity.
Sick.
That rules.
Yeah, that's what I wanted to do, so this is good.
Do you guys have birds here?
No.
No.
It's heaven, idiots.
You still can get sassed in heaven.
People have ruined you in heaven, but you're like, no, I deserve it.
It's always fair call.
The crab is a concept of heaven.
Yeah.
Ah, yeah, heaven.
That makes sense.
I don't understand, like, a human.
Okay.
I get the concept of heaven.
Paradise is the reward for being a good crab.
I'm on board.
I have been a pure crab. This is where I for being a good crab. I'm on board. I have been a pure crab.
This is where I deserve to go.
So.
Crab heaven.
Ursula on the dumb side.
I put forward.
Yes.
Stromboli.
Who?
Stromboli.
Beef stromboli?
No, the villain.
Yes.
Of the classic 19 whenever Pinocchio.
Yeah. He is. I think that actually is the 40s this time. Hey. No, the villain of the classic 19-whenever Pinocchio.
I think that actually is the 40s this time.
Hey!
Pinocchio's a warhead!
Well, that's the thing.
Pinocchio knows, and that's why everyone's fucking depressed.
He's in Italy, isn't he?
Oh, mamma mia.
So if you've forgotten who Stromboli is,
which I suspect maybe you have.
Isn't Pinocchio's villain a whale?
No.
What's that whale's plan?
Eat Geppetto and leave?
That whale's plan is be a whale.
He just happens to run into Geppetto and Pinocchio and swallow them like Jonah.
It's a Bible allegory.
So.
Does that make Pinocchio.
A Christ figure?
Yes.
Would you read the Bible more if you just split it in more? Not would you read the Bible. Would you read the Bible more if you just split it in more.
Not would you read the Bible, would you read the Bible more if occasionally they just reference Jesus'
nose getting bigger. But Jesus doesn't
lie as he is Christ.
If instead of Jesus being the son of God
you know, immaculate conception
come out of Mary, if they'd been like
Joseph carved Jesus out of a
tree, I'd be like, yes
I will read the Bible at least twice as much.
That is interesting, yes.
I want to hear more of this.
So Stromboli is the puppet master,
but in that he is the guy that runs the puppet show
that kidnaps Pinocchio and keeps him in a cage
and puts him on display.
One of the depressing parts in a depressing movie
of a depressing puppet boy.
But for some reason, instead of Stromboli being like depressing movie of a depressing puppet boy.
But for some reason, instead of Stromboli being like, I have an alive puppet, like I have literal magic on my hands. He's like, I will do a puppet show where halfway through the show, Pinocchio snips his own strings and walks around on stage.
I mean, that in and of itself is pretty impressive.
I'd be like, a neat magic trick, have a penny?
Yeah, but would you be like, he also, when Pinocchio bows,
Tromboli comes out and bows instead, which, you know,
come on, Tromboli, it wasn't you. Well, they don't
know. They think it's a puppet. Tromboli, no,
yeah, I know, but like,
you gotta bow for the
puppet, dude.
In a puppet show, you don't, like, clap
and then the guy comes on stage and is like,
I was behind it the whole time. Yeah, you do.
That's usually what happens at puppet shows.
Yeah, because as an audience member, maybe you're the dumb one.
Because as an audience member, I'd be like, ah, yes, that puppet master did the puppet thing.
And then he did something cool.
Oh, no, he's just to the side.
I know.
But as an audience member, I don't know this.
Yeah, but I wouldn't be clapping this guy because he paid everyone.
Do you clap the puppet?
You would clap the puppets.
Have you seen a puppet show?
Yes.
And you clap the puppets.
You clap the puppets.
You don't clap the puppet.
Not the puppeteers.
Well, you are clapping the puppeteers by clapping the puppets.
But you don't want to see the puppeteers.
You only want to see the puppets.
Otherwise you ruin the illusion.
But that's the point of ending it.
No, you're like, well done, puppeteers. And they know you're applauding them and that's the point of ending it No, you're like, well done puppeteers
And they know you're applauding them
And not applauding the pieces of wood
But it would make sense to applaud Pinocchio
Because he's alive
Then I'm just watching a real
Then I'm just watching a real boy
Do a real thing
That's not impressive
Wow, that boy thing, cool
You know how you make Pinocchio an impressive show?
You shoot him.
You get a hammer and you get his head.
Yeah, because he's not going to die.
Pinocchio is the boy who cannot die.
No, but it's a lot.
Yeah, what you do is you string it up to one of them...
You get across.
Them circle boy things.
Spit him and get the audience members to huck knives.
Yeah, you're like, can he feel pain?
No, he can't.
He can't even feel pain.
Wait, am I just thinking I'm throwing knives at a puppet?
I don't care.
But he's alive.
He's like, how you doing?
I'm like, what an amazing automaton.
Jackson, so we know that this is set at some point in the past
where people famously loved the circus and what have you.
You know, remember, what's his name?
P.T. Barnum. P. what's his name? B.T.
P.T. Barnum.
P.T. Barnum, B.T. Sternum or whatever.
He basically just was like, hey, welcome to my circus,
and then shot a horse and was like,
this is the best fucking circus I've ever been to.
If you go see a puppeteer and the puppet cuts off its own strings,
does a dance, and bows,
I'm giving them all my fucking throppences that I have in my pocket. My firstborn. You would be
impressed, but it's not the
maximum you could do. I would probably
piss in my trousers. Are you kidding me?
So you'd be like, this man is a magic
boy. I wouldn't assume
that that wood is alive.
I would assume that the person did
a great illusion and trick. Jackson,
we've encountered wood and we've encountered puppets
before. I'm not going to be like,
oh, this puppet, it has blown my mind.
It must be magic wood.
I would simply just be like,
he developed a good fancy trick.
That's a thing you could prove to people.
Chop off his hand for a throppance
and then the same thing would happen.
So no matter what Pinocchio did,
at no point would you be like,
I am witnessing magic. There's nothing Pinocchio did, at no point would you be like, I am witnessing magic.
There's nothing Pinocchio could do.
When he cut off his strings,
I'm already thinking that.
Yeah.
Why are we killing this puppet?
But he's on stage.
Yeah.
Kill the puppet and it's more impressive.
If I shoot up,
okay, look,
I'm doing puppet tricks to the guys like this.
Woo!
Bang!
Woo!
Oh, I'm still alive.
It's a fucking puppet.
I'm not shocked
You don't do it on a stage
You take him out
In front of the lord
You give the lord a pistol
You say
Shoot this boy in the head
He cannot die
The lord shoots Pinocchio
In the head
Pinocchio cries
And then the lord's like
Wow
That's cool
I want you to imagine
A plank of wood
You shoot it once
I'm doing it
Okay let's assume
That it's a perfect
Straight through
And it just makes a hole Yes Okay now You it once. I'm doing it. Okay, let's assume that it's a perfect straight through and it just makes a hole.
Yes. Okay, now you go to the next
someone shoots it again. It makes another
hole. Yes. Okay, how many
times...
You fool. You're forgetting about carpentry.
All you do is you make a... Oh, sorry, Jackson.
Jackson, you got a piece of wood.
Okay. You shoot it. Yeah. How many
claps do you give him that? None.
Exactly. But if the wood was like,
hello, I am an alive boy,
and then someone shot it and it didn't die.
Okay, Jackson, you've seen vitriloquism heaps.
You're very familiar with how Poppins and vitriloquism works.
A plank of wood is like,
hello, I am a plank of wood that's alive.
Shoot me, I feel no pain.
If me and the plank of wood can spend the day together
and I can accept that this plank of wood is alive.
That's not how a circus works.
You can't spend the day in a fucking circus.
I'm not out of circus.
So you're saying a better plan than hosting a puppet show
that is impressive that you can do, say, six times in a day
with a different audience,
than to just give it to one person, a wealthy person.
For the whole day.
For the whole day.
Well, apparently he won't believe it if I don't give it to him for the whole day. Well, apparently he won't believe it
if I don't give it to him for the whole day.
That's on you.
You are an absolute moron.
You're a dumb fuck.
Stromboli.
Actually, if I had acquired Pinocchio
and I was like, man, that puppet
can speak, I would probably do
the same plan because I could make money
out of this. And this is a way, because again, if I'm
like, ah yes, I'll make it just appear like a
puppet show, because if they assume
that I somehow made this, I might be like
witch, and then they're going to burn me
or try and get my magic juice
from my brain or whatever. That ain't
going to fucking happen. Is that Papa fucking
alive? Get the Papa Monster
shooter in the head. He's going to get his magic
juice from his brain. And now I've, shoot him in the head. Take him to get his magic juice from his brain.
And now I've got to go on the lam.
Did you know that also Stromboli thinks Pinocchio will die of old age?
It's a really weird line where he's like, and when you get old,
I'm going to chop you up for firewood.
What?
I also like that he thinks he's going to outlive wood.
I love this guy.
He's all right.
He's on everything.
Here's something like, well, he's genius.
Stromboli, let's take him.
Let's put him to the side.
Okay, let's discuss the owner and perpetrator of Pleasure Island.
Yeah, okay.
Okay, so somebody whose plan it is to get glue and mules to work in mines
is to build an elaborate island full of everything a boy
could want. Cigars, snooker
and buildings to trash.
And beer.
Then through some magic to turn those boys
into mules and then
chop them up for glue and then
send them to the mines.
How is that a better plan than just having
mules? It's the Cruella de Vil problem again.
Actually, no one's better than just feeding the juice to a dog.
That's true.
Combine the two.
Yeah, I don't know why. I don't dislike anything, really.
I don't know why it's got to be little bugs.
Boys that you've got to turn into mules to turn into glue.
Take the president's voice or something
and give it to this mule dog thing as well.
Get all the plants in.
Combine them all, baby.
Roll the C. Okay, so he, baby. We're all the same.
Okay, so he needs glue.
Yeah.
We make glue during the time from the hooves of horses
and mules. I get that. So you're making,
but that's like a lot of extra boy
slash mule. You're throwing away
a lot of good mule meat. Yeah.
Does he have a mule meat business
on the side? Dog food, maybe? What if he was making a mule coat?
Oh, I see.
101 mule boys.
Only Cruella had this juice that turned, I assume, orphans into Dalmatians.
She could have turned Roger into a Dalmatian.
She would have loved that.
Wrung his neck.
She would have loved that.
For some reason, and this is unpleasant for both me and the audience,
I apologise, but I just can't imagine
Cruella killing the dogs anyway
except hanging them.
I was imagining strangling.
With her bony fingers.
That's how I can imagine she just kills rats
and eats them.
I'm imagining that she owns gallows
in her backyard.
She hangs six dogs at a time.
That's intense, but very reasonable.
She could probably do more, but that's fine.
Six is her limit.
Six is pretty low.
So they turn boys into mule,
and then from there they go working in the mines.
That's good for gems.
But you're selling the mule to the mine.
So let's imagine for a second
the three of us, we put our heads together.
I'm confused.
Yeah.
So, okay.
Do you want me to go through it step by step?
No, no, no.
I'm okay, that's fine.
It's a mule mine thing that you're losing me.
Okay.
So they sell the mule to the mines.
Yes.
What do the mines use the mule for?
Like to move stuff around.
Kind of like instead of rails and stuff, like a car.
And then when they're done with them,
they turn them into glue.
No, in the movie, one half of the mules go to the mines
and the other half become glue.
Okay.
That makes sense.
It's inefficient, but it makes sense.
But also it makes sense to turn boys into that
because if they're sentient, they're going to be better mules.
Well, no.
Because a mule does what it's told because it's a dumb animal.
If you're an alive boy, you're like, my life is hell.
I just wanted to smoke some gas.
Yeah, but if I'm like, hey, Jackson Mule, I got this gun.
You're familiar with the concept of death and mule hell,
where you'll absolutely be going.
Yeah.
How about you get some mine done?
They have guns in hell, yes.
Yeah, heaps.
So you're imagining this guy who sets up Pleasure Island.
He's got regular mules, and he's like,
you know what would make these mules move quicker?
If they knew I was threatening them with death.
The fact that these mules don't know that when I wave a gun in their face,
I'm threatening them with death.
That's what's slowing this operation down.
And I can turn half of the boys I turn into mules
Into glue
And that's just easy
And I guess using the mule meat for dog food maybe
Yeah see
It's also strange that they lure boys to Pleasure Island
With that fox and dog
Like it's an inefficient way to do it
Just go to an orphanage
If you saw a fox and a dog
Don't worry don't get me wrong
On Pleasure Island I'm a mule immediately
As I start to turn into a mule
I'm like oh my god
Finally I get to be a mule boy
And then I'm off to a mine
And I'm like I didn't expect this
I thought this was just mule life
What a treat
How lucky are we
It just seems like
If you have a drink that can turn a boy into a mule,
assuming you have some kind of witch power, you could do a lot with that.
Absolutely.
Like sell it to a puppeteer.
It's weird that Pinocchio gets turned into a mule.
Step right up.
Step right up.
Have this drink.
Turn into a mule.
Give me five dollars.
Absolute transparency.
Would you like to be a mule?
Of course you would.
Drink the mule juice.
And you're like, wow, only a penny.
Mules are carefree.
What could you want as a mule?
Nothing, because mules are pure.
Eat from the ground.
Mules will go to heaven.
Whoa, I want to be a mule.
Skip church, still get in.
Roll up, roll up.
Roll up, roll up.
Be a mule.
Come on, boy.
I wonder if there's like any.
What do you want to be when you grow up?
Mule?
Who doesn't?
I wonder what like level of like if, this is a weird question,
but say you're a boy and turned into a mule.
Is that better mule meat and mule glue and mule work power than if you're an old and turned into a mule, is that better mule meat and mule glue and mule work power
than if you're an old man turned into a mule?
Well, presumably it turns into an old man mule.
Yeah, I mean, that seems to mean the lifespan thing.
What's an old mule called?
I think just an old mule.
Dog shit.
What about old mule?
Pathetic.
Because I was like, maybe you offer it as an alternative to euthanasia.
We make you a mule, you work in the mine, you know? How offer it as an alternative to euthanasia. We make you a mule.
You work in the mine.
You know?
How is that a good alternative to euthanasia?
Would you take it?
No.
No.
Why not?
No, what if being a mule is good?
Maybe.
Okay, why do I want...
Okay, people don't just ask for euthanasia.
How bad is my back?
That's euthanasia.
Will being a mule be better?
No, I'm not like, wow, I'm healthy and fucking 35 years old.
I thought you meant it just sneaks up on people.
I have a different word for that.
It's called murder.
It's the equivalent of a shotgun above a crab.
If euthanasia sneaks up on you, you weren't euthanized.
Okay, so it's old people.
And since it's not euthanasia, it's just like,
have you reached the end of your life as a man?
Would you like to spend the rest of your life as a mule?
And they're like, why not?
That sounds like a jolly good time.
Like it is an experience you would never have before.
Yeah, exactly.
It is an experience I'd never...
You use them for glue and for workforce.
So you trick them?
Yeah.
Well, you're tricking the boys, whatever.
And then they die and you're like, oh, sorry, they were old.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
So who's mining the mine?
I don't know.
It's never clear.
They're just shipped off in crates.
Who mines the mine, man?
Yeah.
Who mules the mule, man?
Because if you're sending these mules to cart stuff, right,
you need someone to load that cart.
Yeah.
Mules, no thumbs.
Yeah, mules, no thumbs.
Famously dog shit hands.
Surely slave labor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, it is strange.
Child slaves. It is much better plan for the villain. This has labour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, it is strange. Child slaves.
It's a much better plan for the villain.
This has taken a surprising turn this episode.
We were talking about Disney villains.
I've all of a sudden become advocates for shooting problems in the head.
Yeah.
Laughed a lot about a crab being obliterated by a shotgun.
Now we're just claiming child labour.
Yeah.
Look, it's not good.
I guess we are pretending to be villains.
Yeah.
If you're a villain, it's got to be a better plan than the villain's plan.
Well, even if it's not child labour or something,
imagine you're working in a mine and you're like,
we've got a brand new shipment of donkeys from Pleasure Island mules
or whatever.
And you open it up and the mule's like, I was once a man.
Because these mules can talk.
Actually, no, they slowly lose the power of speech.
So I guess you never know.
You might get occasionally one that's a bit too fresh.
Wait a second.
Hang on. You know, like kids now, pretty weak get occasionally one that's a bit too fresh. Wait a second. Hang on.
You know kids now are pretty weak.
Yeah.
They have a bit of a tantrum.
What are you going to do?
You can pick them up, put them on a shelf.
Put them on a shelf.
They're not going to do anything, right?
Yeah.
Put them in a hand.
No, no.
He's hitting me big whoop.
Yeah.
Mules kicking.
Mule kick.
Yeah, you can't.
That's a lot of people being mule touched just saying
You can't have a bin that's labelled time out zone
And pick up a mule and put it in that bin
No
Well you can do that with a small child
Maybe I'm misremembering and the mules just become mules
Like the boys don't become alive mules
They just become
Mule mules
Yeah like regular mules
Yeah I think that that might be correct too
Well then just poison a water supply
And you have a town of mules Yeah Yeah, I think that that might be correct too. Well, then just poison a water supply.
And you have a town of mules.
Yeah, pull a Batman villain.
Yeah.
Poison the city's water supply.
Everyone's a mule.
If everyone's a mule, no one's a mule.
What if you poison the sea with enough so that all the fish turn to mules?
Well, this is what I'm thinking. Oh, no.
Wait, my plan was dumb as shit.
This mule meat going to waste.
That's what you say as the mules start to rise to the surface.
Wait, I'm fucking dumb.
Shit.
The mules will definitely drown.
But imagine the amount of glue.
Oh, yes.
All you've got to do is go through the sea with a big net at this point.
Surely,
if you have a drink that turns people into mules,
you can either be like,
right,
it's a changing of mass.
So you're going to like
feed it to rats.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Or make a drink
that gives like,
say the rat mule,
eight legs.
Or give the boy
the strength of ten men.
Yeah.
Oh, no, no.
They're going to fight you
and Pleasure Island will become a hell hole.
Become a fight club.
It's already becoming with a lot of mule kicking.
What I think is strange about Pleasure Island,
I don't know, I think it is like they start to drink the beer
and they become mules.
But also the movie sort of sets it up like a punishment
for the boys enjoying the finer things in life, i.e. cigars.
Is that like a weird element of Pleasure Island that they're like,
it's funny to imagine Pleasure Island, the sign,
but it used to be Mule Island.
They've crossed it out and written Pleasure.
How much are they wasting in terms of like,
because they've got to give these boys beer, cigarettes, cigars.
Cigars, yeah.
I mean, I guess you're making a lot of glue money. Yeah, is glue
famously lucrative?
Well, I think glue in those
days would be harder to get because you had to kill a
mule to get it, apparently.
And again, if you're
flooding the market with all this boy glue,
you can set the price as high
as you want. But you're flooding the market,
unless you pull like a De Beers and you keep some of that glue
behind.
Dude, no, it's the whole diamond thing again.
That's the De Beers.
Yeah, okay.
Some of us use fancy words for it.
Some of us call it the diamond thing.
That's the company.
Just saying.
Dumb fucks.
I was going to say educated, but nah.
Sometimes dumb, sometimes clever.
That's why he's in the middle.
Yeah, yeah, fair enough.
Would there be,
so like I was just thinking about things say this is set during it seems quite early
there's no cars cobblestone streets say we call it the 1910s at the at the latest right yes 1890s
whatever i'm hearing about that kaiser fella how could you instead of turning the boys into mules
turn them into whales more whale, pricier than glow.
Bada bing, bada boom, you're a millionaire.
Yeah.
How many whales do I have to, like,
how many boys do I have to turn into a mule
to turn into a whale to make a profit?
Why?
No, this is easy.
Turn the boys to men.
And then send those men to war.
Boys to men.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, did I start off?
No, sir.
So, yeah. My plan for this is I've got a lot of boys.
I'm not going to turn them into an animal.
Why?
Who cares?
Turn them into men.
Now, all of a sudden, we've just got a huge burst of adults.
Then I've got an army.
Uh-huh.
An army that hates you for stealing their childhood.
Hey, children, aren't you sick of no one listening to you?
Yeah, and also being a man now.
Oh, wait, it hasn't happened yet.
Sorry, go on.
So you wish you could be grown up?
Yes, heaps.
Oh, I got this person for you.
You get to be a man now.
Sweet.
Can I go to war and fight the Kaiser?
Yes.
Sweet.
That was also a propaganda ad.
Yes.
Drink the man juice.
Go to war.
That's what the posters say.
Kill the Kaiser.
That's what the posters say Kill the Kaiser That's it, it's cool to learn that each of these Disney movies take place during one of the
World Wars
Yeah, World War 1, World War 2
Vietnam
You know, the World Wars
World War Vietnam
Yeah
Alright, so I think what we've learned here today
is that there's a lot of dumb fuck plans.
And maybe none dumber than
our own.
Yeah.
I feel the owners of Pleasure Island
is beyond Jack. That's pretty stupid.
I still can't get over
Jackson's puppeteer shit.
I've been responding to
your questions since that came up, but that's
all that my brain's
thinking about
the puppets represent the puppeteer
you applaud the puppets but not the puppeteer
do you boo when you see the puppeteers
if the puppeteers come at you then boo them
show me the puppets again
get out of here
get out of the way of the puppets
you're ruining the illusion
who are you
I don't know you I just watched a show about that wooden fella.
Stop taking credit for the clear wooden fella's work.
The puppets are the heroes.
You're ruining it.
He's crying in the front.
Why would you work it for me?
And on that note, I've been Joel.
I've been Jackson.
And I've also been Joel.
Keep on puppeteering, I guess.
Ain't no strings on me.
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