Plumbing the Death Star - Who Had It Worse: Sisyphus or Prometheus?
Episode Date: April 28, 2024It’s a tale as old as time! Man, he lack fire and cannot cook ham, but thankfully man’s daddy, Prometheus, he give us fire to cook our delicious ham! However his cousin (our uncle??) Zeus hate whe...n man make ham! So punished Prometheus by chaining him to a rock, and made his delicious god liver everlasting. And then punished an eagle to eat that liver every day! And then there’s that other tale that’s as old as time! Some king, he rude and violated the sacred tradition of being a good host and then cheat death twice. This is no good to the gods so now he must roll a big boulder up a hill only to watch it roll back down and then has to do it all again. For eternity! Now as the pearly white gates of hell open before us and the little goblin man that greets us all asks if we want to opt in for the Sisyphus special or the Prometheus platter, we here at Plumbing the Death Star are given the Herculean task of trying to figure out which one is better. Either way, one must imagine Sisyphus, and by extension Prometheus, happy. It’s the only way to get through it.Links to everything in our linktr.ee including our terrible merch, social media garbage and where to become a subscriber to Bad Brain Boys+ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hey everyone and welcome to this week's episode of Plumbing the Death Star.
I'm Joel. I'm Jackson. I'm also Joel.
And Plumbing the Death Star is a comedy and pop culture podcast
where we usually talk movies or like TV shows.
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Yeah. Uh, yeah, you know, just things we've seen.
But yeah, as you'll see, we all see important questions like, who had it worse, Sisyphus
or Prometheus?
So two famous sons of bitches Yeah
Who suffered greatly
Just a couple of fellas
Who had a bad time
One lad
He's like
I'm gonna get
What's that gods?
Do you have a fire?
This could make my ham hot
You know what?
I'm stealing it
I'm taking that
Not only does it make my ham hot
Hey Maybe make your ham hot, hey, maybe
make your ham hot too. And then the gods
say, hey little man, fuck your
ass. And they strap him to a rock.
Hang on little man, why is your ham so hot?
What did you do? Do you steal my
fire, you son of a bitch? Strapping you
to a rock and an eagle is eating your guts
every day. Yep. It's gonna, every
night it'll grow back.
But then every morning,
guess what?
You know that eagle?
He's coming back
and getting a delicious meal
of your intestines.
And the other guy.
Sisyphus.
Can't remember what he did.
Possibly a king.
It's not important.
What did Sisyphus do?
His deal
is that he has to roll
a boulder
to the top of a hill.
But every time
he reaches the top
of that hill,
the boulder rolls right on back down to the base.
And he's got to do it again and again for eternity.
He was a devious tyrant who killed visitors
to show off his power.
I knew he was devious.
Yeah, he was a bad guy.
That's what I say when I see him rolling his boulder.
This violation of the sacred hospitality
greatly angered the gods.
And they punished him
by that.
Yeah.
So,
neither are good.
Well,
Prometheus didn't
do anything bad.
No.
But it's not,
what?
You said neither of them
are good.
No, no,
I mean the punishments.
No, I know
and I'm talking about them
as people.
So,
Prometheus also created
humanity from clay. Yeah. Good guy. He had people. So Prometheus also created humanity from clay.
Yeah.
Good guy.
He had a lot going on.
Yeah.
But his punishment, which is what we're here to discuss.
So you want to try and figure out which punishment's worse.
Worse.
Which one would you?
Well, first of all, from just like a base you're looking at him,
which one would you rather?
Okay, so the one if you just roll in without thinking about it.
Yeah, like you got no context.
I'm just like, hey, Dusha, welcome to hell.
I'm Jackson. I'm a demon. Hey, douche, welcome to hell. Yeah. I'm Jackson.
I'm a demon.
Hey, you've lived a life of beautiful sin.
But for some reason, we choose not to reward that.
Yeah.
I'm giving you two.
Even though we love sinners here.
We fucking love sin, but we're also little cunts.
Yeah, we love to punish them.
Don't you love the sinners and the sin?
No, dude.
We love the sin.
We love sin, but we love hurting people way more.
Yeah.
So here's the deal.
That's fair.
I'd do the same.
You can either roll a boulder up the hill forever.
Yeah, you want the Sisyphus or you want the Prometheus?
You want the Sisyphus deal or the Prometheus deal.
Okay.
Now, so straight out of the game, you're like, Sisyphus is better.
Rolling a boulder is better.
I disagree.
No, see, you're doing the stupid thing that I'm running up to.
I understand what you're saying, but straight off the bat, I'm saying Prometheus.
You want to get, no, because the-
I understand where you come from.
I'm saying straight off the bat, no thoughts, literally just smooth, like, you know, nothing
but zammit, nothing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Prometheus.
Can I, is that because you're like, he gets to lie down?
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
I knew it.
My logic is-
I knew it. He's standing up, by the way. He's strapped like this. down? Yeah, I know.
He's standing up, by the way.
He's strapped like this.
I'm so mad at that demon.
What? You should have told
me! What are you talking about?
I thought I could lay down!
I'm a demon, dude.
I'll kill you. Still does seem better.
You're not walking.
I was going to say, the run-up I was doing was like,
Sisyphus seems better because you're not in physical agony all the time.
You're not having half of your body consumed.
But I was like, the more you think about it,
the more you realize that the Prometheus punishment ends up being kind of better
because I would just get so bored of a boulder.
And I feel like that you're getting eaten alive.
That would just become, I don't know if anyone out there
has been in immense pain for a long period of
time. Yeah. But it sort of just makes your brain
numb. Yeah. But the problem
is. It's just liver, right? Isn't it?
Yeah, it's just your liver. Yeah. But I think
the issue with Prometheus is that
it's not always
happening. So yes,
if you're in immense pain for a long period of
time, you grow dull to it. But you're not in immense pain for a long period of time, you grow dull to it.
But you're not in immense pain for a long period of time.
With Prometheus, with the boulder.
With Prometheus, you're in immense
pain for a brief part of your day
every day. So
there's the lying on the rock in anticipation
of the eagle. The eagle
lands on you. Immense pain, immense
pain, immense pain, immense pain.
Goes back.
Goes back. The eagle comes back. Immense pain, immense pain, immense pain, immense pain. Goes back over the head. Goes back.
The eagle comes back.
Immense pain, immense pain, immense pain, immense pain.
Also, looking at the beautiful picture,
the painting, sorry,
by Salvatore Rosa of the
Torch of Prometheus, he's kind of laying down.
He's laying down.
Not for me.
It's still the one you'd pick.
I think what's nice about Sisyphus is you can-
Oh, this one, he's on a boulder.
Like, he's laying down, but he's kind of on an angle.
Well, here's the oldest depiction of him where he's definitely standing up.
Not only is he standing up, he's standing-
He's squatting.
He's squatting at a terrible angle.
Plus, the eagle's got its claws right on his dick and balls.
The eagle getting purchased on your dick and balls to eat your guts?
Not ideal.
At least with a boulder, I'm getting a workout.
Well, I want to think about the boulder, which is nice.
It's funny that it says, so with Prometheus,
it's like got his information, like parents, siblings, children,
but it also says abode, Mount Olympus.
Yeah.
That's where he's getting that eagle eating him.
Yeah.
But what's nice about Sisyphus is you could probably try different things,
you know, change up your day. Oh, yeah. I could walk backwards. Yeah. I'll push nice about Sisyphus is you can probably try different things. You know, change up your day.
Oh, yeah.
I can walk backwards.
Yeah, I'll push it up like this.
Oh, you know what?
Try one hand.
Oh, yeah.
I'll go one hand today.
What if I walk on my hands and push it with my feet?
Push with my feet.
What if I try and pull the boulder?
See if that works.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What if I try and push it with my face?
Yeah, exactly.
Lick it up.
You can change it up enough that I think a Sisyphus it would be.
And like.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, I'm leaning more now towards Sisyphus as opposed to Prometheus.
I could do a bit of a smiley face on the boulder.
Yeah, that's true.
But as Prometheus, I could talk to the eagle.
Both of them I have a friend.
Yes.
Well, but the boulder is inert.
The eagle is attacking you.
But I get whatever. It's still another living being.
What I think about, though, is that, say you're Sisyphus.
You know the deal.
You get to the top, you watch that boulder roll back down.
Now, the way it's meant to...
Oh, no.
They keep saying roll a boulder up a hill,
but every pitcher in art, he's have to carry the boulder.
He's have to carry the boulder. He has to carry.
Look at him carrying.
He's got his penis out and he's carrying the rock.
I don't want to carry the boulder.
But there's an angel on the rock, too.
I don't know.
Don't look at art.
What the fuck is going on?
Ignore the art.
What about this one?
Yeah, that is cool art.
He does have his dick out again.
Do you have to have your dick out?
Why is there always like an angel just following him?
Because the angel's probably the one who did the punishment.
Oh yeah, and just pushing the rock over.
Yeah, some of them are just shoving it.
But what I think about, right,
you're Sisyphus, you get to the top.
What I assume is meant to annoy you the most
and is the part of the punishment is
the boulder roll, all your progress is taken
away. But if I know I'm never gonna
make progress, who cares?
Yeah. I push the boulder up to the top of the hill, I let the boulder roll away. But if I know I'm never gonna make progress, who cares? Yeah. I push the boulder up to the top
of the hill, I let the boulder roll away.
I would let the boulder, I'd push the boulder and see
how far you could get it down.
Yeah, make a game out of it. Yeah, exactly.
I think Sisyphus is
the choice. Sisyphus seems
nice. Sisyphus does seem
nice, I guess, the kind of thing
where I'm like, well, because also it's
you can't, it's up to you how far you get in a day I don't use it though yeah look I
have to you know as punishment all I gotta do is I'm forced to push the boulder
right how long is that gonna take what if I'm bad at pushing that boulder so are you
imagining you stay at the base of the hill I'm trying I'm doing the best I can I don't think you can trick the punishment I'm not trying to trick it I'm genuinely I am. I don't think you can trick the punishment. I'm not trying to trick it.
I'm genuinely, I am trying.
I don't think I could.
Given a million years,
probably eventually,
but given like a, you know,
I'm not going,
I'm not doing that whole day.
That's true, yeah, yeah.
Do you build muscle as Sisyphus?
Probably, right?
Sisyphus might be dead.
Yeah, probably you take a punishment in the after.
Yeah, so Sisyphus might be dead.
Sisyphus has sinned in spectacularly confusing ways.
He cheats death twice,
and also maybe tricks Hades into chaining.
Hades comes to chain him up,
and he somehow tricks Hades into chaining himself up. Right. And then when Hades comes to chain him up and he somehow tricks Hades into chaining himself up right
and then when Hades
nice move
and Hades
and when
chain you up
Hades
what
chain yourself up
great idea guy
okay
and then what
just do it
and then
Hades is
chained up
no one can die anymore
but people still get old
and sick
so everyone on earth
is miserable.
And then
the gods retaliate by
threatening to make Sisyphus' life so
miserable that he would wish he was dead,
so he has no choice but to release Hades.
But then this is the confusing part.
Before Sisyphus died, he had told
his wife to throw his naked corpse
into the middle of the public square
purportedly to test
as a test of his wife's love for him.
This caused Sisyphus
to end up on the shores of the River Styx
where he was brought
into the underworld.
That makes sense.
What are you confused about?
He's dead now, he's gone in the underworld.
He's like, I tricked death.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the punishment is in the underworld.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that means that you can get up to the top of the hill.
Yeah.
Because you're dead.
Well, exactly.
But that means you've got whatever,
infinite strength to get the boulder there, right?
That's fine.
What I'm trying to say is how much attention are they giving me?
I think that's what the angel's for.
You're getting watched the whole time.
You've got to get the boulder to the top of the hill. Or what? They're going to punish me? I think that's what the angel's for. You're getting watched the whole time. You've got to get the ball to the top of the hill.
Or what?
They're going to punish me?
Well, I don't know.
I think you just have to.
I understand.
It's like Prometheus.
Well, Prometheus they strapped down.
Prometheus, yeah, they've strapped him down.
He's got literally zero control.
Yeah.
He is there getting pecked, getting his liver eaten, having the agony of it getting regrown.
He could probably snap that bird's
throat. With what? His mouth?
No, his chain.
Whereas Sisyphus, he's like
whatever. What's the worst I could do?
Make me do it again? I'm doing it again.
I guess. I don't know.
Sisyphus, I can push that bulge up.
I can take as long or as little as I want.
I have a compulsion. My tonic needs to keep doing it.
And I have to keep doing it. But like, I'll take as long or as little as I want. I have a compulsion. My punishment is to keep doing it, and I have to keep doing it.
But like, I'll be fast about it.
Work your wage, Jackson.
Is that fun?
Is it a win to push the
boulder halfway up the hill and be like, got him?
Well, you gotta take your wins
where you can. That is true, I suppose.
There's no parameters
here of like, kind of wiggle room.
As Prometheus, I'm just there copping it.
I don't wait until Hercules comes and kills that fucking bird.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I guess Sisyphus, well, I guess he never gets any sort of...
No, no, he's just doing that forever, for eternity.
You're just trapped.
You're trapped rolling the ball.
I don't know.
I'm thinking maybe Prometheus is better.
I think I'm coming around.
All right.
Is Prometheus, is it
also for eternity?
Yeah.
Is it also like for
eternity until that
eagle gets caught by
Hercules?
I think obviously in
the myth at some
point these people
get freed.
But for the sake of
the question, I think
it has to be eternity.
No, they don't get
freed.
Neither of them get
freed.
The story just comes
to an end with that
punishment.
That's exactly what I
want.
No.
What?
Prometheus gets freed.
Prometheus gets up.
Well, yeah,
the Hercules
strangles that goddamn eagle.
I did not know that.
I'm fairly certain.
I'm just looking up.
I'm just looking up
about to see
if Sifus ever gets freed.
But either way,
I think it's not relevant
to the question.
Apparently Hades was easy to trick.
Yeah, that's not surprising.
He gets tricked all the time.
Guy's a fucking moron.
It's hot down there. It's hard to think. He's got a hot brain. Yeah, that's not surprising. He gets tricked all the time. Guy's a fucking moron. It's hot down there.
It's hard to think.
He's got a hot body.
Yeah,
a Greek hero,
Hercules,
with Zeus's permission,
killed the eagle
and he freed Prometheus.
But I think,
I think the pain
of getting your guts
torn open
every day
would be exciting.
I think at a certain point
it would become exciting.
Whereas,
rolling the ball up
and down the hill.
The way you said that,
I'm scared that it would become exciting. Whereas rolling the ball up and down the hill. The way you said that, I'm scared that it would become sexual.
Not initially, but I suppose it is.
I worry, Jackson.
I worry that both of these become sexual for you.
I can't imagine Sisyphus becoming sexual.
What are you talking about?
You draw a sexy smile and eyes on that boulder.
Come on.
Put a hole in it. You're already not wearing pants. Fucking fuck the boulder, come on. Put a hole in it?
You're already not wearing pants.
Fucking fuck the boulder, of course.
Of course you can fuck the boulder.
But then I can fuck the eagle.
No, you're chained up.
You can't fuck the eagle.
I can get a boner.
You can get a boner.
The eagle could fuck me.
Yeah, the eagle would peck the hell out of your boner.
Rip that right off.
I can get a chopped up boner eaten by a bird's beak.
It's only your liver that's immortal,
so if the eagle ate other parts of you,
they'd grow them back.
So hang on, talk me through it.
Maybe I'm confused.
Yes, why?
What the fuck happens with Prometheus?
So Prometheus, he's...
He's a god.
God, fire, ego, human, bad.
They're like, hey, fire's God's power.
He's like, your punishment is every day
an eagle's going to come,
and you're going to rip open your belly,
you're going to eat your liver.
And you've got an immortal liver. So you're going to eat the liver, and then the eagle's gonna come and you're gonna rip open your belly you're gonna eat your liver and it's in the
you've got an immortal liver
so you're gonna eat the liver
and then
the eagle's gonna
trip off
and then overnight
the liver grows back
and guess what
oh is that
is that the sunrise
well guess what
I know what's coming today
the fucking eagle's back
oh you always
I'm so hungry
for a little
you know what you love to eat
your liver
it's funny that in a way
they punish the eagle too.
Yeah.
Every day that eagle's going to eat that liver,
which it's a lesser punishment,
but it's still, he's trapped eating that liver
unless it's a different eagle every day.
I don't think it is.
Then Hercules come and he strangled that eagle.
Well, there you go.
What did the eagle do?
If every day you had to walk to your neighbor's house
and eat their spaghetti and meatballs to start your day,
is that bad for you?
No, well, sometimes.
Every day, oh, yeah, because you're going to stay at home.
I've got to say, I do do things in my life.
You have to then, yeah, orientate your whole day around
eating spaghetti and meatballs.
Grabbing the spaghetti and then leaving.
It has become a punishment.
Yeah.
No matter what it is.
Even if you love to eat liver.
If I'm getting paid for it, it's become a punishment. It's still, it's my. Even if you love to eat liver. If I'm getting paid for it.
It's become a punishment.
It's still, it's my job.
It's not the career path I would have been in.
Yeah.
No matter what happens.
Your neighbor's spaghetti and meatball.
My career's counselor at high school was like, well, we've reviewed your test, Jackson.
Turns out.
I think you would be amazing at eating your neighbor's spaghetti every day in the morning.
Your neighbor has been cursed so that every night
they make a spaghetti and meatball
and then every morning you go in and you eat it.
Yeah.
Before they wake up.
That's your job.
Before they wake up for some reason.
It's very funny.
They wake up in the morning and they're like,
once the spaghetti's gone,
he did his job like spaghetti Santa Claus.
He just ate the marinara sauce on the ground or whatever.
I think the way that it would work is their punishment is that every night they yearn to make spaghetti and meatballs.
Right.
But by the time the dish is finished, they're so tired.
They've got to go to sleep.
They're like, well, I'll eat it in the morning.
And then they go to sleep really excited for their spaghetti and meatballs.
Yeah.
And then when they wake up, their spaghetti and meatballs have been eaten by a man.
How early am I eating the spaghetti and meatballs?
10.
10?
10 a.m.
They sleep in.
Yeah, they sleep in.
They make their spaghetti and meatballs.
You're going to start your morning by late.
Can they ever wake up past early in the day?
Okay.
They are getting a strange body.
10's also annoying because if it was really early in the morning I could reorient the way I enjoy a day.
But 10 is like
I'm getting up at 9
I'm late for work every day because I've got to eat this fucking spaghetti.
We can eat it before 10.
They wake up at 10.
Okay, that's alright.
Then I'll reorient my day.
I can take it to work.
Or do I have to eat it in their house?
No, you can take it. This has become veryca on the tram. I can take it to the... Or do I have to eat it in their house? No, you can take it.
Okay.
This has become very different from the previous.
Well, you know what, Hanayia?
You kind of got to eat it there.
Oh, yeah.
Actually, no.
Yeah, you've got to eat it there.
You have to eat it out of their fridge.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
They leave it on the bench.
No, maybe it's left in the microwave.
So I can heat it up.
So it's left in the microwave.
Left on the stove.
It's bubbling.
And then, yeah, actually they've made a long
sauce. Oh, yum.
Long sauce.
A long sauce. I understand the concept, but
calling it a long sauce is fucking me.
Delicious long sauce.
Slow cooked bolognese.
Or as I like to call it, a long sauce.
It's left bubbling
on the stove. And I have
it all? How much is it?
It's exactly one serve
It's what you need
Well I mean
It's not great
It's not great
Because what that means
For you and the eagle
Is that like
If you want to go out for brunch
If you want to go out
For a lovely breakfast
Sorry I would love to meet up
For breakfast
But I've got to go eat
Unfortunately
I'm cursed
And then
Eventually
I've been blessed
By eating my neighbour's Meatballs and spaghetti And then eventually. I've been blessed by eating my neighbor's meatballs and spaghetti.
And then eventually, after a few years,
Hercules busts into your ass and breaks your neck.
He saves them.
He saves them from me.
Yeah, he saves them.
And he saves you in a way.
Eat the spaghetti now.
It's yours now.
I've solved the problem.
Thank you.
But I guess the difference is that an eagle has less going on than a human being.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
Like an eagle that can eat a god liver?
Yeah.
I mean, that's got to be a powerful eagle.
I suppose.
But if you were like, well, you know, I want to go out and hang out with, you know, other
eagles.
Other eagles.
I want to maybe, you know, make sweet love to my eagle partner.
Yeah.
Raise my eagle kids.
Surely someone else could have killed an eagle.
Don't need to wait for Hercules.
Well, yeah. I mean wait For Hercules Well yeah
Maybe Hercules
Just had the drive
Yeah
Maybe it's a special eagle
It's a god eagle
Oh a giggle
Because you gotta
It's one that can
Pierce god flesh
And eat god liver
Yeah yeah yeah
So it's gotta be
Some kind of
It's like an eagle
Lives on Mount Olympus
Here's a question
About the eagle
Does the eagle come
At the same time
Every day do you reckon
I reckon it would be
Within a couple
Hour window Because I think For it to be within a couple-hour window.
Because I think for it to be a proper punishment, it needs to be a bit random.
Yeah.
You know, because you don't want to get used to the eagle eating your liver.
You want it to come as a horrible shock every time.
Yeah.
But I still think that's probably—
He should eat a different part every day.
Yeah, okay.
One day it's liver, another day balls.
Eyes, tongue.
Yeah.
I think, yeah yeah to make it random
and up to the eagle
because sometimes
you'd be like
there was a whole day
nothing happened
you got hope
you need a little bit of hope
for Torture to Work
yeah actually you're right
because yeah
with Sisyphus
it's like
I just gotta push this back
whatever
at some point
you're gonna go
like the smoothest brain
you're no longer thinking
everything's on autopilot
I don't care anymore
no thoughts stop writing a musical
in your head or whatever.
You are not your
ball man.
You're physically there.
Mentally gone.
The ball's falling down the hill
again. Ball man!
Gotta chase that ball back
down the hill again.
And all the angels watching are like, I don't think it's working.
Pull it in!
He's way too happy.
So, yeah, the eagle, it's a
Caucasian eagle, the
Aestos Cacasios.
The gigantic eagle
sent by Zeus to feed upon
the ever-regenerating liver of the Titan
Prometheus after he was chained to
a peak of the
Cacasus of the Caucasus
the
Caucasus
mountains
as punishment
for stealing fire
from the gods
so I think
I think that
you get
well it's tricky
we should have left him there
imagine we could just go to the mountains
and visit him
oh
the eagle has
also been described
as a bronze automaton
constructed by
um
uh
oh yeah
it could also be a robot.
Is that that same robot that protected
Crete? Hephaestus made it!
Yellin' at the sea? No, Hephaestus.
Hephaestus?
The forge god or whatever?
I thought it was Hephaestus, the same guy who made the atomic
bomb in Eternals. Or it could have been a
fell creature spawned by
the Dracaena.
But I just think the constant pain would kind of keep life exciting.
You know?
Have you been in constant pain?
No, because not constant pain.
The occasional pain.
Would keep life exciting.
Yeah, because I think if your Sisyphus.
Okay, so I gave you the spaghetti option.
Okay.
Now the new option is once a day someone comes into your house
and just hits you with a hammer.
Wherever you are, at some point...
You gotta get a hammer there and hit someone.
No, that's scary.
What I mean is, if I'm strapped in the same place forever...
Okay, once a day, just one of your muscles just tears.
Just suddenly, no warning.
No.
I need to be, because
what makes it exciting is
how dull his life is otherwise.
If it was like, you are stuck in the
same spot forever,
you're never moving, you're never leaving that spot.
But occasionally, you will experience
immense pain.
I think it'll change up life enough
that it makes it worthwhile.
Makes it preferable to Sisyphus.
So yeah, by the by, he didn't strangle the eagle.
He shot him with a bow and arrow.
Oh, nice.
No, I think you're right here.
Because there was like a study on boredom.
Yeah.
Where it was like, we're going to get you in a room.
Nothing is around.
All you have is you're strapped to a chair or whatever.
There it is.
You've got some little device that's on you.
And you have a button in front of you.
You press that button.
A little bit of shock comes into you. Oh, yeah. You've got nothing else to do. And you, and you have a button in front of you. You press that button. A little bit of shock comes into you.
You've got nothing else to do.
And some people were like, yeah, whatever.
I'm not going to touch it.
Some people were like, I'm going to slam that button.
Yeah, of course.
All it does is give you a little bit of pain.
Because it just changes up the world.
Yeah, I'm with you.
Here's a wild claim.
I would much prefer to be bored lying down than sitting.
If I'm bored, if I'm like really bored and I just lie down,
I feel less bored than if I just sit down.
Are you saying that lying down is exciting?
More exciting than sitting, I guess.
Is it because sitting requires a bit of effort?
Yeah, maybe.
We're sitting now and like is it an element?
We have been recording all day, but an element of this sit is tiring to me.
Well, it could also just be, I mean, Is it an element? We have been recording all day, but an element of this sit is tiring to me.
Well, it could also just be, I mean, I just realized I was sitting with a cushion in an uncomfortable position.
Yeah.
But no, I don't know.
I just feel like it's also funny to compare it to right now because you're being like, well, you're probably bored right now.
And you wish you were lying down.
Yeah.
I wish we were recording this on our backs. I guess when you're lying down, you're always at risk of having a sleep.
Yeah, is that part of it?
I wonder if it's, well, I was thinking that.
I was going to say it's easier to like kind of hit like this meditative state.
Yeah.
Having a nap sitting down.
But then.
Oh.
In a chair.
Oh, yeah.
Crossed arms.
Yeah.
Crossed arms.
That's good.
An ankle nap.
Like a cowboy.
Yeah.
Yeehaw.
Good naps.
So are you saying In that sense
Prometheus is preferable
Well
I just think
So I don't know
What I'm inferring there
I just think
That if someone's like
Hey
You're locked in this room
For five hours
Yeah
Yes
You can't do anything
You're gonna lay down
I will lie down
Okay
I'll probably walk
A couple of laps
For a bit
Do you think
You'd electrocute yourself
Yeah
Oh I'm gonna slap
In that button.
The moment the scientists close the door, they're going to hear
a bzzz. The lights are going to
go out in that building, that facility.
They're going to go, what's happening?
What are they doing? You're going to open that
door. I'm going to be like, you know, it was a young
Einstein with his hair on fire.
It was not meant to deliver an electric shock.
And I'm like, thank you. I needed that.
That was great.
I feel fixed for the first time ever.
You come back in an hour.
I would press it just because not necessarily out of, well, I guess this would technically count as boredom.
Yeah.
But it would be curiosity.
Yeah, for sure.
How strong is this up?
Yeah.
Oh, what if I hit it for a longer time?
Yeah.
What if I hold it down?
What if I move the electrode to my gooch?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What if one was on the gooch, I move the electrode to my gooch? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What if one was on the gooch, one was on my tongue?
Let's see what happens.
What if I shelved one of the electrodes and put one in my mouth?
And with the other hand just tugged on my dick?
Everyone else in the experiment has just gone up to one corner.
I'm bored.
Being bored makes me horny.
You can't do that.
You've wrecked the experiment. This is how we get funding pulled
What?
What?
What I was wrong
I'm just doing what I would do if I was bored
If I was bored
I'm not bored
I'm not bored
I'm just horny
I'm just helping your experiment
Pretending I am bored
This is what I would do
That doesn't help our experiment
Well I don't know then.
Okay.
Sorry, I'm not smart enough for Mr. Scientist.
Can I get my paycheck now?
How cool is it that, just quick side note before you go into something that's actually relevant,
and I understand why they do this, I think,
but it is funny that a lot of the time when you sign up for experiments at university,
which makes it sound like that we went to
a crazy
laboratory university.
Bad scientist uni, yeah.
No, I just like that for like
psychology, you know,
because you're at a uni, so there's uni students
studying science classes where they have to do
experiments. And it's funny that when you sign up
for experiments, sometimes they're like,
oh, we're going to pay you
with a $20 gift card.
Yeah, I know.
Getting paid in gift cards is funny.
Sometimes you get paid
in the chance to win a gift card.
Yeah.
It is so funny to say,
you know what you did in experiments
in high school?
Like, they would be like,
hey, welcome to the
animal hybridization.
We're going to check you
with rabbit genes.
And we're going to give you
a $20 Kohl's gift card.
A one in five chance of winning a Kmart gift card.
Whoa, sold.
Oh, no, it just made me sick.
I can't even use it.
Yeah.
No, but I think with Prometheus, you'd come to look forward to the eagle.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think you'd be like, the eagle's coming.
That's fucking awesome.
Yeah.
Hey, bro.
Ah!
Yeah.
See you, man.
Yeah.
Even if you weren't lying down, which I assumed I was,
even if you were eating a deep squat or whatever it is,
at some point your muscles are locking up.
Yeah, absolutely.
Whatever.
You can hang from your wrists.
And if they're not breaking or whatever, they get numb.
It's fine.
Whatever.
And then I can have a little cheeky nap.
Although.
Because, yes, while the eagle is consuming your liver,
that's not going to be 24 hours.
No.
You've got to think in time.
There's time to be a little bit of a musical.
I'm on a rock.
I'm lying down.
There's an eagle coming on my stomach.
It's about to go to town.
I'm Prometheus.
He's an eagle.
My liver's gone. He's an eagle My liver's gone
He's an eagle
I stole from God
Fucking hell dude
Should have taken his mouth
He's so loud
I don't know
His rock opera is so loud
He's yelling about what is happening
Eagle in my liver now
It's flying away
Yeah yeah yeah
I'll fix those lyrics later.
It's not even a good rock opera.
He's got one song.
Not one song, but one topic.
But also, fair enough, nothing else is happening to him.
The ballad of the mountain I can see from here.
What's on that mountain in the distance I can see?
The same as all the other mountains that surround me.
Maybe I can close my eyes and sing about what I'm thinking about.
Oh, no.
Closing my eyes, thinking about that eagle.
It's funny.
Closing my eyes and thinking about what I'm thinking about in the darkness behind my eyes.
It's the eagle.
When I close my eyes and I think about what I'm thinking about.
When I close my eyes, I see the eagle.
The deep black void behind my eyes pulls back to reveal the eyes of the eagle that is about to eat my liver.
Stop!
No!
Oh, my God.
I'm bored.
There I am on a rock.
Zeus is yelling at me to stop.
Did you just rhyme rock with stop?
Yes.
Stop singing about what's happening to you right now.
Nothing else is going on.
Leave me alone.
Not I punished enough.
Let me sing.
You could have more fun with Prometheus.
It feels more fun.
It feels like you've got more downtime.
Obviously, yes, you could take as much time as you like rolling that boulder up the hill.
But assuming you have to roll it up as best you can, the whole time you're working.
I wonder if you just-
The time you get to stop working is when the boulder rolls down the hill.
Then you watch it.
In a brief period of time before you have to start going down the hill yourself.
Yeah, but think about how awesome that is.
You get to watch a rock roll down a hill, probably at random.
It's got the same energy as a tie-off rolling down a hill.
I didn't think of that.
It could roll into someone's house.
That's awesome. And you've got to come into the house. Sorry. Sorry. I've got to roll this back up. I've't think of that. It could roll into someone's house. That's awesome.
And you've got to come into the house.
Sorry.
I've got to roll this back up.
I've got to roll this bad boy back up the top.
Can you make sure it doesn't hit my house again?
No promises.
No, but even...
I assume it was like a half pipe.
That's still awesome.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'd never even...
Yeah, because you let it roll.
You could be like,
well, I better wait.
You could try and chase it down
to get it before it stopped rolling
or when you realize that...
Or if it's got enough momentum, maybe it rolls all the way up and then it down to get it before it stopped rolling or when you realise that or if it's got enough momentum
maybe it goes like
it rolls all the way up
and then it rolls all the way back down
and maybe you can try and catch it
or get hit by it
but also you're immortal
so for the fun
you know
push it to the top of the hill
and then just lie down
as the rock rolls over you
that's fun
or yeah
push it to the top
and then try and run down the hill
and see how quickly it can catch you.
The idea of catching the ball with your head is very appealing.
But then even, like, that also ties into it as, like,
all right, whoa, almost, I drank too much Coke.
Yeah, so, like, you're at the bottom,
you're about to push the boulder up,
and you're like, all right, my best time's 16 minutes.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Let's try and beat that.
Let's try, yeah, get it up as quick as possible.
Time trial, baby.
Yeah, that's true. You've got that angel that's sitting there.
Time me!
Time me!
You look so stupid.
Rushing a ball up a hill.
What was that?
I wasn't counting.
I'll count next time.
Another thing as well,
as Sisyphus, you have your
hands free, so you can scratchus, you have your hands free.
So you can do,
like, you know,
you can scratch yourself.
Oh, that's true.
Scratch your ass.
Scratch your ass.
You mean like you've got
your back against the boulder.
Yeah.
Well, the boulder's not
stuck to your hands.
Exactly.
No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
For sure.
Whereas, say, if, you know,
in the downtime
that Prometheus has,
you know, maybe he's got
an itchy nose.
You can't get to that.
Oh, true.
Maybe he's like,
well, this is, he's getting in my liver.
It has turned weirdly sexual for me.
Time to tug my nuts.
I want to tug my nuts.
I'm rigid, but there's nothing I can do about it.
You can try and move his feet up there, I guess.
I just got to hope when the eagle lands, his tail feathers brush against my dick and nuts.
If he's bored enough and horny enough, could he just wiggle his hips to make himself cum?
Do you reckon that that slight momentum would be enough?
You could try and move yourself up so you can try and self-suck.
I think his feet are something, usually.
I thought it was just his hands.
No, but can't you, like,
there's those fellas who have figured out how to just cum on command.
The hands-free-o, as it were.
And I think that's just like Kegels.
And you've got nothing but time to do Kegels, baby.
Okay, okay, okay.
So yeah, he could Kegel himself to orgasm.
And it's a kind of good way to get back at the eagle.
I'm coming.
The eagle comes down.
You're like, yeah, but sit and come,
because I've just combed all my pants.
And I'm going to do the same again tomorrow and the next day,
and it's just going to get older and older and more coming.
I'm going to get caked in a week to month old jism
There's this giant eagle flapping down
About to just slice open your belly to eat your liver
Then bang!
Boom!
Combed on the eagle
What do you think about that, buddy?
Bro, I'm being punished to you absolute cunt
Whatever
Aren't there robots sometimes?
Maybe.
See how well you can soar
with all your fucking feathers gummed up,
you son of a bastard.
Yeah, exactly,
you piece of shit eagle.
Stop eating me.
I'm, oh my God,
I can't stop eating you.
I want to not,
you know what?
Coming on the eagle.
Your liver tastes crust.
Coming on the eagle,
that's coming to me
We're both coming
Different kinds are coming
We're both coming
I was going to annoy the eagle too
Oh man
Oh my god
Would you maybe form
Like a lovely little kingship
With that eagle
I think so
I think because you'd talk to it
Eventually
Stockholm syndrome
Yourself with the eagle
Well the eagle's also being punished.
Yeah.
And like a lot of mythology.
The rock is being punished.
The eagle may talk back eventually.
Yeah, yeah.
Not to this point.
Or you'll just imagine it will.
Yeah.
Same with the rock.
You'll imagine the rock.
Yeah.
What would you say to the eagle?
Hey.
How would you start that friendship?
Hello.
We're both fucked up here.
Hey.
Do you have to do this?
Are you the same eagle?
Does that liver taste nice?
It tastes like liver.
It's pretty good.
It's a bit rich.
Yeah, I guess.
Do you have to do this every day?
I do.
I've done an eagle sin.
I gave fire to the eagles.
They didn't know what to do with it.
Do you have to do this?
Is there a certain time limit? I just get a comment at some point. Do you have to do this? Is there a certain time limit?
I just got a comment that I'm pointing at.
Imagine you have to eat a bowl of spaghetti.
Yeah.
You go to your neighbor's house once a day and eat a bowl of spaghetti.
Eat a bowl of spaghetti, yeah.
It's funny to say the same things to The Rock.
Hey, man, do you have to do this?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I took fire to The Rock.
Didn't do anything with it.
I gave Rock fire to The Rock.
That's not even what I did.
to a rock.
Didn't do anything with it. I gave rock fire
to the rocks.
That's not even what I did.
Most people
with ironic punishments
are a Prometheus situation.
You're just different.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Fair enough.
Because at some point
you just have a conversation
with said eagle
and you either imagine
it talks back
or it does
or it doesn't, whatever.
But yeah,
you'd kind of have
little stories.
You'd be like,
where does that eagle go? What that eagle like little what is what does that
eagle life live absolutely you'd imagine it you have an eagle wife and or husband eagle can you
bring them next time they can eat my other bits i don't give a yeah can i see the kids
he's bringing the kids oh no that would be bad though because it's only the immortal liver so
you get eaten and then you just stay in.
So you're like, man, I'm in so much pain,
can't wait for this to grow back. They just feel your liver
grow back, and that's it.
That's how good, like, maybe a blessing.
Oh, yeah. Hey, eagle,
eat my head. Yeah, everything
is like, you're gone. You've now become
eagle excrement, except your liver
just, like, on a rock, just every now and again.
Could an eagle, this is crazy.
Eat a human head?
No, get to your brain.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How?
Crack your head like an egg.
Can an eagle get into a human skull?
I don't think so.
What I want to do is I want to pick up a turtle.
And they fly up and they drop the turtle on your head.
Think about, we live in fucking Australia.
Yeah.
The fucking mad.
A man with a tougher human skull. Yeah, a man with a tougher human skull. I ain't going to like, it'll go through my Australia. Yeah. The fucking mad... A man with tougher human skulls?
Yeah, a man ain't gonna like...
It'll go through my eyes.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
I guess it can get to your brain that way.
Yeah.
I was just thinking...
The soft bits.
Because you were like, well, it eats your head and then you're not there anymore.
And I was like, or are you just without a face?
Yeah.
Are you like, this didn't work out!
Now I can never see the eagle coming.
Oh, no.
Or scream.
The eagle ate my eyes.
I ate my eyes.
You're not saying words anymore.
I'm bones now.
You're just being like, eat his fucking voice.
Eat his voice box.
That's the love of God.
If you're just bones, you're not saying shit.
You're just going to open mouth and then you'll live up every day in the bones.
It's got to be regrowing everything.
It must be.
I get feasts on your liver, sure, but everything has to grow back.
Otherwise, you know.
What was to stop the eagle from being like, I'm going to try something else.
I'm going to eat this whole man.
Yeah.
I'm going to bring my whole eagle family here.
Yeah.
Bring the eagle kids.
Yeah, let everybody have a taste.
Yeah.
So what's better?
Are we thinking Prometheus still? I still think Prometheus
because of the randomness. Ah, but then again,
maybe, I don't know if I'm talking
out of turn here, maybe I feel you can have
a bit more fun as Sisyphus. I feel like with
Sisyphus, you have more agency. Yeah.
You know, as Prometheus, stuff happens to you,
but as Sisyphus, hey, you don't charge
much, but you're going to charge that
rock. Yeah. That's your rock.
Yeah, but it's not property. Yeah, you do, but now you. Yeah. That's your rock. Yeah, but you've got property.
Yeah, you do,
but now you have responsibility.
That's true.
Whereas Prometheus,
I got no responsibility.
Well, this is kind of-
I had responsibility.
I gave fire to the humans.
Yeah, yeah.
Now I'm good.
You're out, baby.
Well, this is when
you actually pare it back.
Maybe this is actually
secretly a sequel
to an episode we've done before.
Whoa.
Go on.
Because you've got a choice
of no agency
or property and responsibility.
So do you want to be suddenly 30 or 17 again?
Whoa.
That's a good point.
This is like an evolution of that.
That's crazy.
Because, yeah, I think at first I was like, Sisyphus seems like the right answer because
pushing a rock's not that hard and you're not in pain.
But the lying there and being in pain would become meditative.
Yeah.
But now I've gone back to Sisyphus and I'm like,
fucking give me that fucking rock.
Well, because you're like-
I'm going to do tricks with it and shit.
I'm in charge of this rock.
Yeah.
I say where this rock goes.
Yeah.
Well, I don't really.
It goes up.
But I get to decide what part of the mountain I go on.
Yeah.
I get to decide how quickly I push it away.
I get to decide where I'm going to put it up the mountain again.
You can still, in theory, talk to people.
You can talk how fast you're going to push that rock.
Would you come hang out with me if I got Sisyphus'd?
I might walk up the hill with you once or twice a week.
Oh, that's kind of you guys.
Thanks, man.
I'll test out some songs I've been writing while I was strapped to a rock.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, man, how'd you get out?
Oh, Hercules came and broke the eagle's neck.
Could you get him to break my rock?
I don't know if that helps.
Could you try?
Nah.
Yeah, I don't know if that would do anything.
Yeah, but you could ask.
Yeah, I don't know.
Oh, I'll ask.
I'll put in a good word.
It sounds like you're not going to ask.
I'm going to ask.
Yeah, I'll figure it out.
He's very busy doing his 12 labors, dude.
Yeah, he caught a river or not.
No, actually, that was Achilles.
Yeah, nice.
It's like, yeah, the rock, I mean, killing an eagle,
that was one of, like, you know, because great renown.
Yeah, but it wouldn't be hard for him to break my rock.
Yeah, but is that, you know, killing a big eagle to free Prometheus?
Right.
Killing a big rock?
Is that?
Sick, dude.
Every time.
Yeah, no, like destroying a rock, is that?
You're going to go get that.
Yeah, I have to.
Otherwise that angel gets really fucking pissed off.
He gets pissed off if I don't get that rock, dude.
But, yeah, well, hey, put in a good word.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What have you done those 12 labors?
Right.
Yeah, when I see him next.
Then you leave to the angel.
They're not going to fucking ask you. I have such bad friends. The angel's like,, when I see him next. Then you leave to the angel. I'm like, they're not going to fucking ask him.
The angel's like-
I have such bad friends.
The angel's like, well, I'm still here.
If they broke the rock, I'd probably just make another rock.
Also, push that rock.
Stop talking to it.
Yeah.
Shut the fuck up.
Pretend I'm not here.
Fuck.
Fuck the world.
He's going to waste his time with his pissy rock.
Yeah.
At least, something with the rock, with the Sisyphus, you drop the boulder down the hill.
That's satisfying.
Pushing the boulder down the hill. But also, maybe you slide down the hill after the rock. Yeah.us, you drop the boulder down the hill. That's satisfying, pushing a boulder down the hill.
But also, maybe you slide down the hill after the rock.
Yeah.
Get a bit of fun.
Roll down the hill.
Hold on to the boulder, roll with it.
Stand on the boulder and do that classic cartoon thing where you're running on top of the rock, but it's...
Yeah.
And even if it doesn't work and you just get flung into the mountain.
Who cares?
You're not dying.
Yeah, it's a bit of fun.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I think it is, yeah, Sisyphus.
Because again, yes, you are in charge of that rock,
but also like, well, if you don't push it fast enough,
what are they going to do?
Maybe push it harder?
Yeah, that's true.
What can they do?
They've got an angel there yelling at me.
Well, okay.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I guess maybe they could just, and you wouldn't exist anymore.
Blessing.
Yeah, that's true.
That is nice.
That is nice.
What about, there's a third guy
to this collection.
Now, I can't quite
remember his name,
but I remember his punishment.
He basically tried
to make the gods
eat his son.
Okay.
And the gods
weren't chill about that.
So what they did
is they put him in,
he's in a pool of water,
and there's a fruit tree
above him.
And every time he tries
to bend down
to drink the water,
it goes into the earth.
And every time he tries to reach up and eat a piece of fruit,
Tantalus, the tree goes away.
Is that better than either Sisyphus or Prometheus in terms of punishment?
No.
I think that that actually is the worst one.
Yeah, that sounds like the worst.
It just sounds annoying.
Because you're hungry and thirsty,
and you're constantly bending over and reaching up.
But also, I guess you could just be like, well, I know it's not going to work.
So then the punishment is just standing in a pool of water.
Which doesn't sound fun, I guess.
Can I swim in the water?
Wet feet.
No, you have to stand.
You're stuck in a pool of water.
So then I go down.
You bend down, you're like, I'm thirsty.
I sit down.
The water retreats away. So now I'm sitting in mud? Well, I think you actually just can't and you're like, I'm bursting. I sit down. The water retreats away.
So now I'm sitting in mud.
Well, I think you actually
just can't.
You're just stuck standing.
Yeah.
Or you can kneel down
but you can't sit.
You would have to
squat.
So I can't lie down.
No.
I can't drown myself
in the mud.
No.
You could squat in mud
or you can reach up
to a tree that's too high
away full of fruit.
That's it?
That's it.
Can't go for a walk?
No, you can't leave.
This sounds the worst.
You can't do shit.
You just stand there. You can't even make a walk? No you can't leave This sounds the worst You can't do shit You just stand there
Can't even make a sweet song
You can sing about it
Singing about the fruit
That's out of my reach
Gonna bend down
And quench my thirst
Oh no
I forgot that the water
Goes away when I squat down
Man I'd love a piece of fruit
Oh no
Maybe there's a fish in the water. I'm not gonna
bend down. Nah.
Oh wait, there was fruit
from before. I'll just eat that. I'll just
grab it from the tree. Fuck!
It is funny because
so that punishment is either
you stand forever in a pool of water because
you know you can't get a drink or a piece of fruit
so you give up or you're cursed so that
you forget that. I think it's just to everything you're like, oh I'd love a drink or a piece of fruit so you give up. Or you're cursed so that you forget that.
I think it's just... It's everything.
You're like, oh, I'd love a drink of water.
The way around that is to piss off the gods that are punishing you.
It's just to be sullen.
Yeah.
And like, ha-ha, we've got you.
No, you don't.
I don't even care.
I hate fruit and water.
Good even.
I want Coke and hot dogs.
Coke and hot dogs, good combo.
If you can give me that, that would be sick.
Otherwise, I don't give a shit, dude.
Can't give you a hot dog, dude.
A hot dog would be fucking amazing.
It's been long enough from lunch that I'm like,
hot dog?
Are you kidding me?
Fuck, dude.
Dude, I can't even fucking remember the last time I had a hot dog.
Dude, they're the best meal on earth.
They make up for everything else about being alive.
Nothing hurts you when you've just eaten a hot dog.
True philosophical belief.
You have life's many maladies on one end of the scale
and the humble hot dog on the other,
keeping us from the brink.
Yes.
If you're having a bad day today,
why not try eating a hot dog?
Eat a single hot dog and you'll be on cloud nine.
Does it change anything with Tantalus
if it's different fruit trees?
What do you mean?
So like there's a cherry tree.
So if you're just standing in a big pool of water and you can walk around.
No, no, no.
Maybe just like in your reach or whatever.
Surrounding you.
Surrounding you.
Or you walk around, say you're in an orchard of different kinds of trees.
Is it a different sequence too?
Like a milk pool, a coke pool?
Let's say yes.
I honestly think the worst variation of this
is probably the one that they are talking about,
where your feet are firmly planted.
The tree is directly above you,
so you have to really look up for it.
And when you reach,
because it's directly above your head.
When you reach up,
you can't quite tell how far away it is.
And then you have to reach directly down to drink,
and then it recedes.
Because if it's heaps of stuff, you have to reach directly down to drink, and then it recedes. But if I don't...
Because if it's heaps of stuff, you're like, ooh.
You can't...
Still not getting anything, but yeah, this is good.
Trying to pick a cherry.
Nah.
How about a peach?
Also no.
That's a crazy question.
Trying to have some milk.
Where'd it go?
Is it more entertaining to reach for one fruit you can't have
or many fruit
I say many
and you're like
whoa
I didn't get a cherry
let's see what it's like
when I don't get a peach
whoa
I think the
yeah
because I'm like
well whatever
different stimulation
different movements
is it a different
it is different movements
it is different movements
say it's a fig tree
always a fig tree
or say pomegranates
I love their pomegranates
they'll be like I can't get a pomegranate oh well oh fig tree. Or say pomegranates. They love their pomegranates. They'll be like,
I can't get a pomegranate.
Oh, well.
Oh, some water.
Yeah, well.
Oh, pomegranate.
Oh, well.
Yeah.
Well, I'm done, right?
Yeah.
Whereas I'm like,
oh, pomegranate.
Oh, I tried to grab.
No, it's there.
Oh, there's a banana tree over there.
Maybe I'll try the banana tree.
No.
But what about peach tree?
What if your punishment was this, Samit?
Every night,
I promise I'm going to make you a meal, but I never make it.
Is it more exciting if it's different meals?
No.
If I say, tonight I'm going to make you spaghetti, and you say, that's awesome.
And then I'm like, you know that spaghetti?
It's not happening.
I'm not going to do it.
And then the next night I say, tonight I'm going to make you spaghetti.
And then you're like, oh, that's great.
And then it's not going to happen.
But then I'm like, spaghetti? I'm not going to happen. And then I're like, oh, that's great. And then it's not going to happen. But then I'm like, spaghetti?
I'm not going to happen.
And then I'm like, chicken cacciatore?
Oh, yeah.
It's not going to happen.
No, no, no, no.
The second one.
It's more exciting.
It's more exciting.
Because I know you failed me with the spaghetti.
You're giving me hope.
Yeah.
I see.
But you might get the chicken cacciatore.
Yeah.
He fucked up the spaghetti, but maybe I'm getting chicken cacciatore.
He fucked up the chicken cacciatore, but maybe I'm getting some apricot chicken.
Yeah. He fucked that up, but maybe how could you chicken cacciatore. You fucked up the chicken cacciatore, but maybe I'm getting some apricot chicken. You fucked that up,
but maybe how could you ruin a ham and
cheese toasty? I'm not giving you the ham and cheese
toasty. I'm not giving you the ham and cheese toasty, but maybe
I'm getting a muffin with some peanut butter on it.
You get different enrichments from
the things you don't get.
Not getting different things. Also, just the visual
stimulation. Yes, absolutely.
Like, oh, the cherries jiggle in a certain way
when they retract retract That's funny
I'm making it horny again
If I move my hand like this
The peach kind of looks
Like an ass jiggling
Doing this with one hand
And jerking off
Is an awesome motion
Yeah
And then all you gotta do
Is go down into the water
And the gum gets sucked out
Yeah
Yeah
Gets sucked into whatever
Suicide system you're attached to
I think there is a real Th threat with all three of these punishments
that you will just masturbate your life away.
Like either your previous doing kegels to come without your hands,
your Sisyphus one-handedly rolling the boulder and whacking off with the other.
Secretly so the angel can't see.
The angel being like, he's really up against the boulder there.
What's he doing there?
The countless visualizing fuckable fruits.
Making the peach jiggle so that you can cum.
A real problem.
And the thing about it, pass the time.
And it probably wouldn't.
I mean, how many times a day do you have to cum before you're bored of it?
You know what I mean?
Orgasms do feel good even when they're not fun
Absolutely absolutely you kind of always for for your kid on the fifth come you don't feel any joy. Oh, yes joy I'm just saying it's a bit boring now. Yeah
Yeah
It only stops
But if I'm getting my liver at yeah
Plus it might make the boulder like quicker it only stops if it hurts yeah it only stops if it hurts but if I'm getting my liver out who cares yeah life is pain
who cares
yeah come your nuts
plus it might make the boulder
like quicker
oh yeah
and if you're a tantalus
or whatever
you're doing this to the cherries
yeah
today's a cherry day
yeah
you're coming at the cherries jiggling
and then you're like
let's move around to a peach
a watermelon
yeah
you got a harum of fruit around you
to make a jiggle
how's that banana wiggle
yeah
what that banana do woo the banana's flopping like that oh you're like that's awesome You've got a harum of fruit around you to make a jiggle with your hand.
What'd that banana do?
The banana's flopping like that.
You're like, that's awesome.
And then by the time you've made it back to cherries,
cherries are exciting again.
That's good.
That's the best one.
That's the best one.
Because you can have sex with all the fruit.
And Prometheus is the worst one because that actually is secretly the most boring.
Yes, absolutely.
I think that's it.
I think we've figured it out.
We did it. Easy.
Another classic episode of Plumbing
the Death Star where they hit you with a question you were
expecting and you were excited.
And on that note, I've been Joel.
I've been Jackson. I've also been Joel.
This has been another episode of Plumbing the Death Star and
I don't know why I'm doing this sign-off
for this show, but see you in the comments.
Let us know.
Who did you fuck with the most
of us three or the punishment punishments okay in many ways the punishments probably
suit each of us which one's who's which i reckon you're i reckon i'm fruit boy yeah
you're fruit boy i reckon i'm probably you're a bolder boy yeah yeah that was actually kind
of easy that was the easiest That was actually kind of easy.
That was the easiest one thing we've ever done.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, see you next week.
Bye!