Queen Havoc and Her Murder Cult - Episode 2: Under Satan's Hammer

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

As the followers of Electus per Deus begin enacting Cecilia’s willful revenge plot, they put their loyalty – and their brutality – on display. In doing so, these true believers… get a taste fo...r blood. They believe these heinous murders to be acts of faith. How far will Electus per Deus go to defend Queen Havoc’s honor? Follow us for more on Instagram. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:05 Someone was sending a message. They believed it was Sataness from Cecilia's past. The same demons who chronically tortured Cecilia were now out for Rhea. Rhea's connection to Cecilia was the only thing protecting OTC, and now Rhea had severed that connection. Just before the murder started, there was car bombings happening to scare Rhea. Digital bombs were used to intimidate people at any of these meetings. The bombs were indeed a message, but not from Satanus.
Starting point is 00:02:34 In truth, it was Cecilia Stein, the mastermind, ordering her new subjects to carry out these crimes in hopes of scaring Rhea in his submission. After being poisoned and receiving death threats, Rhea had been doing her best to distance herself from Cecilia, who felt deeply betrayed, and the rivalry had turned violent. The first two acts of wanton terrorism both involved car bombs, handmade by the members of electus per dayas. Here's Detective Susette Canotesi. She walked out to her car, she smelled petroleum.
Starting point is 00:03:15 It's a heavy smell. When they came out, they saw that there was all kinds of little packages underneath their cars. The police were called and the bombs were disarmed. No one was hurt this time, but re-enter followers were all struck with a nameless fear. A few weeks later, OTC met again. At a new location, the home of Pastor Reginald Ben Dixon re-as new mentor in faith. Before the meeting started, the prayer group encircled the house. They joined hands, called in protection against the devil and his demons. They created an invisible wall, sealing the home to keep out all things unholy.
Starting point is 00:04:05 But then, an hour into the meeting, a series of explosions shook the house. When they rushed outside, they discovered huge holes where the bombs had exploded against the lawn, re-his- car was smoking and severely damaged. A few weeks later, at midnight, on the evening of July 15th, Pastor George Nell, a spiritual advisor to Ria's prayer group, arrived to survey the wreckage of his house of worship. The lighthouse full gospel church
Starting point is 00:04:43 that he had led for eight years had been set on fire. As the building smoldered, the pastor found a note taped to the rot iron gate. Scrawled in big block letters, it reads, who is going to protect you now, Rhea. Rhea had gone to the cops, but she was convinced that she was dealing with supernatural forces. Until the bombings in the church fire, she remained in denial that her spiritual daughter Cecilia, the woman whom she had once bottle fed back to health and cared for for four long years,
Starting point is 00:05:22 could ever want to do her harm. Rhea couldn't bear to grasp that ugly truth, so she didn't. The revenge was totally unreal. The only thing she was doing was she made friends with Celia and she protected Celia and she might Celia her best friend and then she deserted Celia and Celia just couldn't take it. It's purely revenge. And if you look at the people that got murdered, there were all close friends for real.
Starting point is 00:05:54 From School of Humans and Ihar Podcasts, this is Queen Havoc and her murder cult. I'm your host, Kurt Kubicek. Episode 2, Under Satan's Hammer. When we first arrived in South Africa, Jennifer and I quickly learned about a nationwide energy management technique called load shedding. That's where the power grid is shut down in certain areas at certain times. This is meant to lessen the strain on the country's electricity system,
Starting point is 00:06:30 but it shifts the burden to the people. Here's to main craer, our South African producer, as we drive across Kruger's door from the airport to our hotel. How do you, does everyone just have backup batteries? No, everyone just sits in the dark. Really? Yes, backup batteries are incredibly expensive and a lot of people still don't have the resources for that. We've sat four, five days without power before. The problem with that is our water pumps work on electricity. So, after two days of no electricity, we lose water as well. Which is a little bit of a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I have a year. Good good. I'm just dropping up some gas. Back at the hotel, we found ourselves without Wi-Fi. Even the backup generator wasn't working. Our first taste of load shedding. We were deep in it now, experiencing first-hand this darkness that could take over at any moment. I kept thinking about the members of electus Pradesh, the ones who sided with Cecilia when OTC was divided. How dark their lives became after making the choice
Starting point is 00:07:44 to become the Lordsords and ladies of Queen Havoc's bloody court. Not only were they carrying out amateur acts of violence against Rhea, who had in some respects been a caretaker to them all, but the closer they got to Cecilia, the more they lost themselves, lost their moral compass, and became her loyal soldiers. lost their moral compass and became her loyal soldiers. Miranda, for example, moved in with Ria after suffering through a tough divorce in 2011. Ria was there for her when Miranda needed her most. But that also meant she lived next door to Cecilia. Cecilia's petite was short hair, sometimes spiked at the top.
Starting point is 00:08:25 She wears baggy clothing and small gold hoop earrings. She has a silver tongue and is mastered in the art of posturing so that everyone wanted to be in her good graces. She has the superpower in manipulation. I mean, she can open an university teaching people many pollution. So, rather quickly, Miranda grew devoted to her. Became desperate for Cecilia's approval, and by January of 2012, Miranda Stein had officially taken Ria's place as Cecilia's right hand and primary caregiver.
Starting point is 00:09:02 The maternal rights that Rhea once held had been transferred to Miranda. Here's journalist Yana Marx. Miranda ultimately did everything she did to embrace Cecilia. She just wanted to get her approval and that included her kids. Like Rhea and Cecilia, Miranda was a mother. She worked as a high school English teacher and was known to be quite intelligent. All the people that she has turned to believe in her are well-learned people.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Miranda's IQ is more than 140. That's Colonel Kristal Boizen, a strong, almost intimidating presence, a seasoned and decorated detective. She's both mentally and physically tough and full of insight. She was close to the case as well. She told us about Miranda's transformation, her fall to the dark side. She was a loving mother, a loving spouse, and when she met up with Cecilia, Cecilia started feeding the bed side of Miranda.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Miranda even testified in court to say that killing a person is the most exciting thing that you can ever do in your life. What a statement. Miranda was fully committed to her role as the right hand to Cecilia. Even if that meant robbing her children of their innocence. Our resident scholar, Dr. Nikki Valkov, speculates, Maybe the very nature of trying to be this kind of perfect white Christian mom and life and teacher is part of what made her available to this narrative of Satanism that you know, you are special and you have been chosen, you have been chosen to help fight evil.
Starting point is 00:10:47 The fear of Satanism paired with the promise of doing God's work kept Miranda glued to Cecilia. She relied on a certain scripture where said the prophet Eli was given Samuel to raise and obviously Eli was a prophet so Miranda thought she will just give her children to Cecilia to raise. And she grounded her decision on that scripture. So from a very early age, the children and Cecilia's lives were completely integrated.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I don't know about you, but when I was 10, I was playing basketball in the driveway and video games with my neighborhood friends. Not building bombs and setting churches on fire. Not being groomed by my own mother to commit brutal acts of violence. Upon Cecilia's orders, Miranda cut her kids off from their father, making them believe he no longer wanted to see them, and discouraged any social interaction outside of their apartment complex, Kassana flats. She made sure her kids didn't have any friends of their own.
Starting point is 00:11:53 No one that might make them second guess their devotion. Here is Rosalind McNabb again, child advocate and psychologist. They were told, your dad does not want to see you. Then they were told you will not speak to anyone at school because actually Cecilia knows everything about what is being spoken about. They came to believe that Cecilia was omnipresent. One silver lining of being an ex-satanist was that she had been granted the power of astral projection.
Starting point is 00:12:32 She could be anywhere at any time, and she could hear everything. Miranda treated Cecilia like a prophet, one who had survived the darkness and had seen the light. And now she was ready to impart her holy knowledge for the supposed benefit of all. And so did Zack and Michaela Valentine. They were also true believers in Cecilia. Her influence was immediately evident.
Starting point is 00:12:58 When we visited Detective Susette, she showed us pictures of Michaela. I mean, she was, she was a beautiful woman. In a yes time she went from this to this. In the first picture, she is bright, youthful. She looks happy and grounded. She was just 21 when she met Cecilia, studying to become a pastor.
Starting point is 00:13:21 In the second photo, Michaela's style seems to have changed drastically. Her face is laden with heavy makeup. And there's a look in her eye. Maybe fear. Maybe sorrow. Whatever it is, it's dark. Michaela's husband, Zach, had known Cecilia since they were kids. They attended the same church, presumably before
Starting point is 00:13:46 Cecilia was lured in by Satanus. Now, he had a well-paying job. He was a financial advisor at an insurance company called Discovery Life. Six feet tall, Zach kept his head shaved clean and had piercing blue eyes. His slice smile looked as if he knew something you didn't. And he was fiercely loyal to Cecilia.
Starting point is 00:14:07 It's important to keep in mind that Cecilia still depended on others at all times. She kept up the narrative that if she stepped outside a certain perimeter around Cassana flats, she would be attacked by Satanist. So getting a job was out of the question. Zach Salary provided a cushion. Here's Detective Ben Boizen with some hard numbers. The equivalent of nearly $6,000 per month. We also learned that EPD was as high as they could afford to be, using primarily meth and cocaine. While C found the drugs, it was the group's funds that paid for them.
Starting point is 00:14:55 This dynamic worked to deepen the toxic codependency that Cecilia was fostering among her followers. It also kept them numb enough that they were less likely to notice that it wasn't just their money that was falling through their pockets. Their identities were disappearing too. But according to Cecilia, their cash wasn't just for drugs and groceries. It was for orphans. Here's psychologist Rosalind McNabb. for orphans. Here's psychologist Rosalyn McNabb. Zach Valentine, an intelligent person who bought this story that I have this orphanage of all these children whose parents, whose mothers, are Satanists and we need to save them, we need to get all this money and send it to these kids.
Starting point is 00:15:45 There were no pictures, no receipts, no medical bills, no phone calls, no proof at all that these orphans actually existed. But if Cecilia trusted them, zacked it, and he gave his money willingly. Saving children became the primary purpose of electus predaeus. This mission to save orphans overseas worked beautifully to keep morale high among the members. It was a holy mission they could easily understand. It was also how Cecilia convinced electus predaeus to carry out yet another more heinous act
Starting point is 00:16:23 of revenge against Rhea Grinovold. Just as Rhea had refused to believe that Cecilia was capable of such rootlessness, Cecilia refused to believe that Rhea would actually reject her. She wanted Mama Rhea back and would do anything to serve that end. So she kills Rhea, Ria concrete her into it. So she'll rather go for people close to her, eliminate that one thing her place will be open again. I suffered from acne into my thirties.
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Starting point is 00:18:54 That night, Rhea informed her followers that she was dissolving overcomers through Christ. Rhea's unceasing anxiety finally saw some relief when the police found fingerprints on one of the bombs that had been thrown into Pastor Nell's Church. Turns out they belonged to Miranda Stein. That was enough to arrest her and bring her in for questioning. But law enforcement became stymied by the potential defense that Miranda could have been simply reading the newspaper, thrown it in the trash, and then later, that same paper was used to make the bomb.
Starting point is 00:19:29 This was enough for reasonable doubt, so Miranda was let off with a warning. I couldn't connect it to the crumbs that they later go. After this event, Rhea finally started coming to terms with the fact that Cecilia might actually be the one behind the recent wave of violence, so she agreed to work with the police. The plan was simple. Rhea would meet Cecilia at a coffee shop located just across the street from Cassano Flats.
Starting point is 00:20:01 The police officer would sit close by and listen in on their conversation. The hope was that Cecilia would implicate herself, or at the very least give the cops a good lead, should anything grave happen to Ria in the future. The day of this sting, the officer met Ria at her new apartment, they agreed to drive separately. He would walk in first just to be safe and secure a seat within earshot of Cecilia. But when Rhea arrived, all she saw was Cecilia in a booth waiting for her. The police officer was nowhere to be seen.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Rhea couldn't just walk away, or Cecilia would know something was up. So she sat down across the table from her. Cecilia's hatred was palpable. Jaw-tight. Hands clenched. Eyes obscured under a baseball cap. There was no trace of that helpless spiritual daughter Rhea had once cared for.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And so begins the persistent tragedy of how the police handled the numerous investigations related to OTC, EPD, Rhea, Cecilia, and all the bloodshed to come. Despite everything that went woefully wrong in this harrowing case, amid all the varying versions of these events, almost everyone we spoke to agrees on one thing. But first of all, I think if the judicial system applied there all, many of these murders could have been prevented. The soul think would have been prevented if the police that they job. Sitting at a booth across from Cecilia's menacing presence,
Starting point is 00:21:43 Ria spoke first. She calmly told Cecilia to stay away. Cecilia stood up and said, well, if you think the car bombings was that bad, people is going to start dying. And she walked away. Cecilia would make good on that promise, and without much interference, the police had let Ria down twice now and would continue to do so. Here is another journalist who covered the coming horrors, Muritsko Kotser. I feel that if police actually managed to stop the group in 2012, so many people would
Starting point is 00:22:24 have still left today. They could have prevented so many murders. And here's Detective Susette with the most difficult truth to bear. At least seven people died because of the way the police did not do what they were supposed to do, not just the police, the state prosecutors office as well. Soon after meeting Ria at the diner, Cecilia informed her flock that she had a vision, a woman with blood streaming down her face.
Starting point is 00:22:58 The woman was Natasha Berger, who had taken Cecilia's place as Ria's closest ally. The revenge plot was about to enter its next phase. who had taken Cecilia's place as Ria's closest ally. The revenge plot was about to enter its next phase. See told the group, God gave these people five things to pray about. But what the group and Natasha specifically did was she only prayed for four of those five things. And because Natasha only prayed for the four death curses was put upon over 300 children and they all died. I know it's wild, but the bite method had worked. Cecilia now controlled their behavior, information, thoughts, and emotions.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Any person in their right mind would know if 300 kids ended up dead. It would be news. It would be world news, never mind just in our country. But they actually believed, Cecilia. Cecilia's psychological playground had twisted her followers' sense of truth, and now Cecilia's teeth were sunk deep into the hearts of Zach, Miranda, and Michaela. According to Yana Marks' book, in order to focus her followers' hatred and channel it at her new enemy, Natasha Berger, Cecilia gathered the group in her bedroom.
Starting point is 00:24:25 She told them that Natasha was the one who was truly standing in direct opposition to the group. We have to take Natasha out, Cecilia said. It's blood for blood. She was telling people the Bible since she was not going to kill, but actually she was taking her revenge. LaRou was in charge of preparations for the operation. He cased the area and saw that in order to reach Natasha's townhouse door, they would have to get past security guards.
Starting point is 00:24:56 The guards recorded the license plate number on each car that entered the complex. Cecilia found a workaround. LaRou, under the cover of night, would steal a license plate off of a random complex. Cecilia found a workaround. LaRue, under the cover of night, would steal a license plate off of a random car on the street and place it on Zaxcar. Simple as that. And on July 24, 2012, it worked. Zax, Mikaela, and Marcel, who was an angsty twain at this point, got past the guards. When they got to Natasha Burger's home, they sent Marcel, the most innocent looking one,
Starting point is 00:25:33 to the front door. Zach and Michaela waited in the car. A per sleeve, Marcel had a surprise, a taser. She anxiously knocked at the door, ready to immobilize Natasha. Then, Zack and Michaela would swoop in and finish her off. But when Natasha opened the door, there was an additional security gate between them. So the clever Marcel improvised. She said her cat was in a garden in one of the trees and she wanted to walk through Natasha's
Starting point is 00:26:08 flat and Natasha just said no. But Marcel was persistent and Natasha reluctantly agreed not to let Marcel in but rather to go look for the cat herself. Natasha quickly disappeared to the back garden. After a few minutes, she returned to the front door and broke the news, no cat. Then she politely shoot the young killer away. An embarrassed Marcel trumped back to the car and delivered the bad news. I suffered from acne into my 30s. I had tried everything from pills and creams to painful treatments and nothing seemed to work.
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Starting point is 00:29:13 Natasha's poodle Bubbles starts barking as soon as Michaela and Zach walk up to Joy's townhouse. The knocking only makes the dog bark more. But then the door opens. Joy greets them warmly. Bubbles eagerly wags her tail. Michaela smiles back at Joy and says hello. Then she points to the gift bag in her hands and excitedly explains that they've traveled all the way from Kruger's door to surprise Natasha for her birthday. Michaela asks Joy if she'll let them in so they can wait inside until their friend gets home. The elderly neighbor is hesitant at first, but then succumbs to the charms
Starting point is 00:29:51 of their thoughtfulness. She welcomes the married couple into her home. Just a warning here, the violence that comes next is quite disturbing. The moment her back is turned, Zack pulls out a knife. He says he won't hurt her as long as she cooperates. Joy is frozen in fear. He demands she write a note to Natasha. Joy, trembling, finds a pen and paper and scribbles a message. Natasha, please come see me urgently.
Starting point is 00:30:21 anti-j. Zack orders Michaela to go put it on Natasha's door. When she returns, Zach winks at his wife and says, she's all yours, love. Cecilia had specifically requested that Michaela kill Joy to practice a test of Michaela's loyalty. But when Michaela looks at Joy, the frightened old woman, she doesn't have the heart.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I can't, she screams, and flees from the old woman's house. Zack is shocked and disappointed in his wife. He fears Cecilia's reaction and potential for a severe punishment. Joy tries to capitalize on Zack's momentary distraction. She makes a play for the door, but Zack is too fast for her. At six feet tall, he towers over the cowering woman. Zack has no mercy. He stabs her in the neck six times. Then, as if overcome, he hits her with a hammer ten times. And after that, in his blind rage, he slits her throat.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Blood splatters across the room, covering everything. The walls, floors, and bedding. Somehow, Joy isn't dead, but Zach leaves the room to place a barking bubbles in the cupboard. While he's gone, Joy crawls to her phone. She manages to dial for help. Unable to speak, though, she lets the phone fault the floor. Then, she drags herself towards the front door.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Perhaps her dead body can become a warning to Natasha. Joy's last breaths, escape her lungs there on the living room floor. Zach returns from stashing the puppy. He sits down in the living room and stares at Joy Burnside's body, waiting for Natasha to arrive. He doesn't have to wait long. Immediately Zach grabs Natasha and pulls her into the apartment.
Starting point is 00:32:26 She puts up a brave fight. She screams and thrashes against him, right up until the hammer comes out, followed by the knives. Zack attacks Natasha with the very same tools and in the same excessively violent manner as he did Joy. Natasha dies suddenly. eyes still open. She lies on the floor, staring forward, mere feet away from her sweet old neighbor. Their blood now mixed together on the blades, their hair smashed on the head of the hammer, their bodies in a heap, crushed in Natasha's fist, is Auntie Joy's note.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Outside in the car, the Kayla Hyper ventilates, deeply disturbed by what she had just been a part of. The horror of it all was setting in. They had crossed a line. So Natasha died because of revenge and the neighbor, it's very insensitive to say that, but the words were, she was only conglomerate damage. But one of Joy Burnside's neighbors had heard joy fighting for her life. When she peered out the window, she spied Michaela frantically escaping the house, racing back to the car.
Starting point is 00:33:50 This neighbor would become a key witness, and EPD's newfound taste for blood would turn to a lust for more. If you've harmed one person who's close to you, it becomes easier to do it again. The first time it's a shock, the fifth time it's becoming normal, the tenth time it's unremarked. On the next episode of Queen Havik,
Starting point is 00:34:12 it was one of the most gruesome murders which I've seen in my, by the age of 34, in the Green Service. There was a lot of blood and the blood just went missing. We can call us the search party. Could have arrived. There's been murders, and it's adultery-related. It's in Grueger the Storm area connected to overgummers in Christ. That's really not meant to see nothing for the first time. Queen Havek and her murder cult
Starting point is 00:34:42 is a production of School of Humans and I Heart Podcasts. Queen Havec is hosted and created by me, Kurt Kubicek, produced and written by Jennifer Tekeene, Julia Kriskow, and Kurt Kubicek. Lead producer is Julia Kriskow. Story editor is Seren Burnett. Senior producer is Amelia Brock. Production manager is Daisy Church. Original music composed by Claire Campbell. Editing, sound design, and scoring by Jesse Nicewanger. Associate producers are DASHIN MUDELY and JEMANE CRYHER, additional producing by Ben Melmond, fact-checking by Dennis Webster. Recording engineers, Art Graham Gibson, Clay Hillenberg,
Starting point is 00:35:30 and Josh Hook, executive producers are Virginia Prescott, LC Crowley, Brandon Barr, Jennifer Tkini, and Kurt Kubuchek. We want to thank all of those who so generously welcome us in South Africa and shared their stories. We're incredibly grateful to thank all of those who so generously welcomed us in South Africa and shared their stories. We're incredibly grateful to you all. We also want to acknowledge how traumatic these events are for the victims and their families. Please respect their privacy.
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