Queen Havoc and Her Murder Cult - Episode 8: Vile Hearts

Episode Date: July 11, 2023

Three final murders occur in rapid succession, placing Krugersdorp in a state of abject terror. Notoriety and performativity, however, make the members of EPD overconfident and sloppy. When the community demands action, the South African police finally begin to take the murder spree seriously. They assemble a task force to hunt down whoever is carrying out these vicious crimes. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This show follows the investigation of serial murders and contains material that may be disturbing. Listener discretion advised. Jared Jackson went missing on December 16th of 2016. The same day that Zach Valentine was apparently killed in a car accident. This was no coincidence. After both men disappeared, electrosperdeus worked feverishly to get their hands on Zach Valentine's life insurance pay-up. And when a friend posted about Zach's death on Facebook, the group thought they were in the clear. They saw this as a green light to file the claim. But these things take time.

Something EPD didn't have. Someone else saw the post too. Detective Susette Canotes' daughter, Shanei, she alerted her mother. I read something on Facebook and she's like, oh, this may be a link to my case. Although she was not working on the case, it had stayed with her these last four years. So Susette called it in. She warned authorities to be extra suspicious of anything involving Zack Valentine or Cecilia Stein. Her instincts were, as usual, right on the money.

Zack was in hiding, pretending to be dead until the coast was clear. Here's Detective Ben Boison. Zack Valentine became an issue for them because he was in hiding. He's a diabetic, he needed medicine, and I didn't have money. Life on the run was hard for Zach. For obvious reasons, he couldn't get a job. So he spent his days and nights holding up in a cheap hotel outside Kruger's door, living on cup of noodles, cigarettes, and the insolent LaRue Bratum. It would make sense that LaRue would be genuinely concerned for Zach.

After all, he was the closest thing LaRue had to a father or older brother. According to Yana Marx's book, Leroux warns Zack that Cecilia and the others were considering getting rid of him because he was becoming too expensive to keep alive. Miranda was working as a teacher. Her salary was not enough for all those people to live and to buy Zack Valentine's medicine. So I think at the end of the day, they would have killed him. Because they had gotten away with so much already, though, Cecilian Miranda thought they were untouchable. Here's Dr. Nikki Falcoff.

We met earlier in the series. Once you realize that the thing that is the most taboo thing imaginable is actually possible for you to do, your sense of yourself as being subject to the same rules as everybody else in society probably starts to slowly disintegrate and therefore these things like murder, like stealing. They become less and less to move for you as time goes by because you think you are different, you think you are exceptional.

When the money didn't come after Jared's death, EPD returned to their old ways of haphazard overzealous murder. While some of EPD's final victims were acquaintances and fellow members of the Kroogrestorps community, they were ultimately, to Sicily and Miranda, a means to an end. Raw resources to be mined in pursuit of a financial windfall. EPD now treated murder as casually as a day at the office. Meanwhile, the impact of their crimes shook Kruger's door up to its core,

because now, anyone with a bank account was a potential target. It could have been me and you, they were doing regular job showing up for appointment and they were killed. From School of Humans and Ihar Podcasts, this is Queen Havoc and her murder cult. I'm your host, Kurt Kubicek. Episode 8. Vile Hearts If you've come this far with us, you know this story is a bramble, a mess of moving parts, a knot, and that titans in the stomach and won't let you rest until you've untied the narrative.

There's no way to tell this story without becoming sort of consumed by it. Our colleague, Jameen Kriger, warned us about this actually while we were in South Africa. Every time you think you understand what's happening, you realize that you're wrong. If you let it, this is the type of story that will absolutely take over your life. Because I don't think there'll ever be an end to it. I think every time you turn a corner, there's something new. Pulling at all these dark and twisted threads is harrowing, even for a seasoned journalist like Yana Marks.

I had to work through every single piece of information to be able to portray it accurately. And that meant I had to relive or try to put myself there on the scene, try to relive through the dockets, the photos, the different narratives. And yeah, it took quite a toll. And I was struggled to sleep, I would get bad dreams, because it was hard, it's hard stuff. And if you're close to something like that, I mean, I can just imagine if that's what I went through,

how it must have been for the family members of these victims. Between the whiffs of Satanism, the manipulation of Christianity, the crooked cops, the slaughter of innocence, and the gross human capacity for this level of brutality? This story took over our lives, too. It was quite a daunting challenge to unravel truth from fiction, to detangle lies from hearsay

and memory this long after the fact. There are pieces of this story, details that we were forced to omit for the sake of clarity, because as Jermaine pointed out, every time you turn a corner there's a new perspective to consider. We've done our best to dig for the truth and allowed to become our compass. And the sad fact of this moment is that electus per deas would seemingly stop at nothing to satiate Cecilia's greed and lust for power. The appointment murders continued in 2016. EPD believed they were above the law, and so they struck close to home, taking advantage

of their actual neighbors. It was late summer in the southern hemisphere when the murders began again. Just after the realization that the insurance money was not going to hit their bank accounts for some time. On January 27, 2016, EPD took aim at 57-year-old Glenn McGregor. McGregor wasn't rich, but he was a tax consultant. That qualified him. Surely he had money squirreled away somewhere.

John Barnard told his cohort what he apparently knew for a fact. McGregor didn't trust banks, so he must keep all his money at home. Cecilia and Miranda also knew McGregor. He was a local. He lived just outside Kruger's door, but his office was only a few blocks away from Kassana flats. John Barnard actually rented property from Glenn, and the group had once teased Miranda about Glenn being a potential mate.

Driving along the dusty streets of Kruger's torque with Ben, we pass McGregor's office. The awning still eerily bears his name. Yeah, you see, Wheeler, McGregor and Associates, and this was his office. Merinda met McGregor at that same office, claiming she needed tax advice. True to form, she talked him into a business meeting later at his home.

McGregor was surprised when he opened the door to see Miranda and her two grown children standing there. She'd never said anything about bringing her kids. But he graciously invited them in. They chatted for about 20 minutes. It was friendly enough. Some get to know you chit-chat.

Then, without warning, Miranda pulled out a gun. She shoved it in McGregor's face. This is a stick-up, she shouted. McGregor laughed loudly, but then quickly froze once he realized this was no joke. Miranda's face matched the flat, pallet expressions of her two children. Their plan, hold him at gunpoint, get his banking information, drain his accounts, then strangle him. No gun meant no ballistic evidence.

Then they would leave just as they left the others to be discovered by a loved one. But as usual, things went awry. The Gregor stood up, ready to take on the room, to fight for his life. The Gregor was a much bigger man than the Rue. So Morinda panicked, fearing for her son's life, and the plan falling apart. She fired her 22 pistol, landing two bullets in the Gregor's gut. The Gregor collapsed to the floor. LaRue bound his feet.

Her cell got busy searching the house for cash. Miranda bent down low. Her lips to his ear. She promised Glenn she'd call an ambulance. In exchange for access to his banking app. Miranda managed to transfer 6,000 rand, about 320 US dollars into her bank account. For cover, she attached a memo to the transfer.

Great fuck. Once the money was delivered, Miranda demanded that LaRue finish Glenn off with his rope. She'd nicknamed it his Choky Choky after he had used it on Jared Jackson. Before Miranda and her children fled their victims home, they slipped Glen's body into the bathtub and left him soaking in warm water.

Cecilia set it with throw off the coroner's estimated time of death. That's where McGregor was discovered the next day. That afternoon, on January 28th, while Miranda was teaching her students English, Cecilia sent LaRue to the high school to fetch Miranda's bank card so he could withdraw all the money from McGregor and hand it over immediately. Cecilia wanted to keep all the money in her own hands. Confident they'd gotten away with yet another murder, the members of VPD subsisted for the

next few months on what little they'd robbed from McGregor. That poultry sum, a mere 300 bucks, was why Glen McGregor had to die. His life was worth two months of time for Zach Valentine. Soon enough, Cecilia decided they needed a bigger score, which meant they needed to kill again. In less than a month between May 10th and May 31st of 2016, they committed three more murders. Maritska Kotsare was a respected local crime reporter at the time and covered the next murder of Anthony Skolfield. To us, the first murder felt like Anthony Skolfield because that's actually when it started falling apart, you know.

Here's Colonel Kristell Boyzen, who spoke to Anthony's wife. This was like the pilot murder for them, you know, trying out a pilot plan. And if this works, we're going to do it again. And surely they did it again with the two other murders that followed year after. Other than the Myers and McGregor, all the appointment murders took place in Krueger's door proper.

In fact, the remaining three murders would all be carried out inside Miranda's own apartment at Kassana Flats. Staying with Maranda was John Barnat and Leru Marcel stayed with Cecilia downstairs. Maranda stayed in the living room and that's where they killed and she was sleeping the every night after they killed her. On May 10, 2016, Anthony Skofield, a financial broker that Miranda had worked with in the past, got a call. LaRue, using a fake name and a cheap SIM card, set the appointment through Skofield's

wife and bookkeeper Heather. LaRue, using a fake name and a cheap SIM card, set the appointment through Skofield's wife and bookkeeper Heather. They were to meet their prospective client at Key West, a shopping center and Kruger's store. Here's Colonel Kristell Boyzen, who spoke to Anthony's wife. Mr. Schofield informed us that on the day of the murder, she was actually packing the caravan because her and her husband would have gone on this long camping trip. The first one that they have taken for a very long while and Shofield was just attending his last

appointment before they would have left for the trip. He did leave but he never came back. Leroux called Schofield right at their meeting time, six o'clock, saying he had a crisis. He asked if Scofield could come to his place for the meeting instead. The address, 17 Kassana. Scofield obliged and was surprised when he arrived in Sama Rinder there. Good grief, you live here too, he said. They acted fast, holding him at gunpoint, a 38 special this time, until he handed over his bank card and pin.

Miranda ordered Marcel and John Barnard to go to the ATM down the street and make sure the pin number worked. Cash in hand, they headed back. Skofield was dead by the time they returned. John and LaRue wrapped his body in a black plastic bag and carried it down the stairs, grabbing his car keys on the way out. They placed the body in his trunk or the boot as they call it, and abandoned his Honda a few streets away, leaving the keys in the ignition, hoping that a desperate person might steal the car with the body in it. Maritska Kotser recalls the day law enforcement found his body.

Anthony Skolfield was murdered. It was my first of day in months. So my contact, you know, she sends me a message. She's like, listen, yeah, an elderly man murdered, found in his boot, you know, you need to write the story. Tired but committed to her work, Maritska drove to the scene. So first I'm pissed off because it's my off day, but out of curiosity, I drove to the school, where his body was found, tried to see if I could find anything, you know, because when you're right, as a journalist, you know, you get familiar with your community, you get familiar with the crimes, you start understanding things. Although Kruger's store had a lot of crime, this one felt bizarre.

So it immediately stood out to me because obviously I was writing crime a lot. So I knew which type of crime happened in what area. And this was really a weird crime, you know. Who does this? You know, kill someone, leave them in the boot, leave the keys in the car, and I mean, this was introduced to North. Over the next few days, the killers went back

and withdrew the daily maximum allowance until the card was eventually canceled. And then just around the corner is Wucheri. After they killed him, they came here and they both meet from this place to have a party. Luru used his share to pick something up from our cell. Luru bought some hoodies for him and his sister at this shop, yeah, and that's all of Skullfield's money.

This was EPD's biggest score, only providing them with about 16,600 Rand. Still, only about $875 US dollars, all going directly to Cecilia. This would be their pattern moving forward. The ease and immediacy of it appealed to Cecilia. Two would hold the victim at gunpoint while others would go to the ATM and drain their accounts. Then their victim would be killed. Their body disappeared.

Human lives, disposed of with barely a second thought. Luckily, for the people of Kruger's door, money leaves a trail. People of Kruger's Dorp, money leaves a trail. 911, what's your emergency? You shot her! Oh my God! It's a nightmare we could never have imagined. And a killer who is still on the loose.

My small town rocked by murder. There are certain murders I'm scared to discuss. In the 1980s, we're in high school losing friends, teachers, and community members. One after another, after another for a decade. We weren't safe anywhere. We're teenagers terrified to leave our own homes. Would we be next? Who is killing all the kids?

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Nasson Joaquin Garcia. They believe that he was Jesus Christ on Earth. It wasn't even so much that he liked sex. He wanted something to pray. It's't even so much that he liked sex. He wanted something to prey. It's the largest cult in the world that no one has ever heard of. For three generations, the Luz del Mundo had an incredible control on his community that began in Mexico and then grew across the United States, until one day. A day of reckoning for the man whose millions of followers call him the Apostle.

Their leader was arrested and survivors began to speak out about the sexual abuse, the murder, and corruption. This is just a business and their product are people. They want to know that they will kill you. Listen to all episodes now on the I Heart Rainy Up, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcasts. On May 26th, about two weeks after Scofield's life was taken, the body of a young man, Kevin Mick Alpine, was discovered in one of Kruger's Dwarfs' most dangerous neighborhoods. Kevin was also in one of Kruger's Dwarfs' most dangerous neighborhoods. Kevin was also a financial advisor.

Only 29 years old, he'd recently celebrated his first wedding anniversary. His wife, Kessia, was 7 months pregnant. Kevin had been actively looking for a new job as well, making a career change before becoming a father. He promised Kessia that this would be his last appointment for a while. They couldn't say no to a potential client. Here's Kristell again. MacAlpine wasn't supposed to attend the appointment.

I first found another broker, but he's not working in that business anymore. But he has a friend that would appreciate their business. And he, then, not knowing, is sending someone else to his death, post a appointment on to MacAlpine. Unfortunately, he crossed paths with Queen Havx band of wayward Hunsman. When Kevin was murdered, that was the turning point, the first turning point. Maritsko was called to the scene that night as well. It's 11 o'clock at night. I'm sleeping, my phone rings, my contact says,

hey, pop-lop, stone, up, on set, I like. So that roughly translates to, hey girl, get up, we've got a body. She makes her way there. A large crowd surrounds Kevin's open trunk. So now I think to myself, oh fuck, you know, I'm going to get chased off the scene. Because usually that's what happens, you know, the family there, they don't want the journalist there. But then, she's approached by someone.

So now this man comes, he's in tears, and he says to me, Marisco, thank goodness you are here. Now I'm like, how this is man known my name. And he grabs me and he's crying. And he says, it's Kevin in the boot, it's Kevin in the boot. Confused, but present, Mariska tries to make sense of this. Okay, now I know the victim's name,

but it's still didn't add up and then Nis said, what will you are neat to say about that? So you are neat to Skeven's mother. I swear to you, you know like they say when it feels like a brick walls fall on you. It was that moment because then I realized that I knew that person in that boot, you know, like it was the most bizarre feeling in the world. Maritska is a well-known journalist who, like Yana and Ben, wrote a book on the Kruger's door of killings. It's called Outcast.

Over the course of her reporting, she became a close confidant to LaRue. More on that soon. She's a warm presence. She has an infectious laugh and vibrant energy. And this spade of murders had become personal for her. Too close for comfort. You get so used to writing about people you don't know. Writing nice stories, sad stories, but you don't often get to write about your mother's best friend's son.

EPD's next victim was discovered four days later on May 30th, 2016, a woman this time, breaking EPD's MO just slightly, the next murder was Hanli Lottichan. Miranda had made an appointment with Hanli Lottichan for 3pm, claiming she was looking to purchase a new home. And she had one favorite ask, though. Miranda said her car was in the shop and asked Hanli if she could swing by and pick her up on the way to the house. The morning of May 31st, 2016, was the last time Hanley's husbands saw her alive. She was 52 years old.

Ritska didn't know Hanley personally, but Kevin McAlpine's sister did. I remember the night when she went missing Kevin's sister actually saved me, a message on Facebook saying, Mariska, look what's going on, you must help them, it's busy happening again. While Miranda held Hanley Lodigan at gunpoint, Hanley had cleverly managed to transfer the large sum to her husband, knowing this would trigger an alert on his phone, which it did. Soon after, the husband also received a phone call

from Hanley's colleague, wondering why she hadn't shown up at the house she was supposed to be showing to Miranda. Her husband made a frantic call to authorities and his search party began. Tragically, it was too late for Hanley. School children that was on their way to school found that the next morning, next to their height.

I must admit, it's a bit nauseating to tick through these murders so quickly. The weight of these tragic events is not lost on us. Our aim here is to avoid walking you through too much more brutality and refocus our lens on the light at the end of the tunnel. This is not Krugasdorp, a police area. This is the R&D-15 policing area. So they will open a caizia and the caizis will not be linked to Krugasdorp. Hanley's body was found dumped in Rant Fontaine. That's another interesting break in EPD's pattern.

Rant Fontaine is the next town over from Krugasdoorp, but technically falls in another district, covered by another police force. Cecilion Miranda were now fully relying on sloppy police work and their inside connections to get away with literal murder. But the day after Hanley's murder, June 1, 2016, Brigadier Mani Victor walked into the Krugerstor police station. Three rapid-fire murders had taken place, and the citizens of Krugerstorp were outraged. Brigadier Mani Viktor was already a veteran officer by then, and was known for his work in intelligence.

We spoke with him on the ground in South Africa. There was a huge outcry in the Krugerstorp community. People thinking there's a serial murderer on the loose. People were marching to the police station and they were demanding actions and so forth. So the day after the third murder which was only a lot I walked into the Kyrgyzstan police station. Brigadier Victor immediately began assembling a task team of highly skilled investigators to help crack this high priority case. The members of this task force referred to their operation as the war room.

This term implied to the public that they were taking the situation seriously, treating the investigation with the urgency and the severity it deserved. I mean, Monty came on board. At that point, he was the head of our chronic intelligence and the police, I mean, they were slacking and he had this war room. We ordered different disciplines within the police came together and that's where we actually realized, okay, you know what, you have something, I have something, I think, I'll do some things, I'll connect it in some way. Besides the obvious proximity of the murders and the signature methods of kill and disposal,

the Brigadier immediately noticed a common trait among the latest victims of the Kruvrstorp serial killings. All of them were financial brokers. So the three murders were linked in the sense that the target was people that are used to working after I was meeting people and strange places, taking them to have discussions or to see or else whatever the case may be. This made them perfect marks for EPD. Just like you were me, they were simply earning their scratch, making a living, not knowing that they were scheduling appointments for their own demise. The day Hanley went missing, her husband had alerted more than just the police. He had the full support of the local community. Here is Detective Vine and Vinter, who worked

within the RAN-Fontaine district. The night Hanley disappeared. I got a phone call from a missing person's organization by the name of Pink Ladies. We then liaiced with Brigadier Moni and the following morning we got a message that a body was found in the Renfunding area. Detective Winters Commander at the time was Lieutenant Colonel, Ert Kruger. Mastery was the in Rantfundtain as a group commander. Detective Kruger's expertise is in tracing suspects. So when he noticed that other bodies had been found not so far away, he contacted Brigadier Mani Victor,

who then tapped the two of them to become part of his war room effort. There were new cops now, trustworthy ones, and they were communicating. Finally, beginning to connect the dots. While the two starting officers began digging for evidence, Brigadier Victor continued to build his task team. He called the most dogged cop that he knew. You can't become a policeman for money,

because there is no money in the police. The look into victims' family's eyes when I send a criminal to jail. He is coming out of the eyes and hugging me and thank me for assisting to get justice. It's much higher than an irisality that any person can pay you. That's why I became a cop.

The task team became a pack of bloodhounds and Ben Boyzen was the top dog leading their charge, closing in on the Devil's Trail. 911, what's your emergency? You shot her! Oh, my God! It's a nightmare we could never have imagined. And a killer who is still on the loose.

My small town rocked by murder. There are certain murders I'm scared to discuss. In the 1980s, we're in high school losing friends, teachers, and community members. One after another, after another for a decade. We weren't safe anywhere. We're teenagers terrified to leave our own homes. Would we be next? Who is killing all the kids?

And why? In that moment, I saw rage. And why do you some want the town's secrets to stay dead and buried forever? I'm not sure why you're digging up all this old stuff again, but I'd be careful. Don't say I didn't warn you, Nancy. Listen to The Murder Years on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Sacred Skando, one of the best new podcasts of 2022, is back with a closer look at the darkness surrounding mega church La Luz del Mundo and its leader, Nasson Joaquin Garcia. They believe that he was Jesus Christ on Earth.

Nasson Joaquin Garcia, they believe that he was Jesus Christ on earth. It wasn't even so much that he liked sex. He wanted something to pray. It's the largest cult in the world that no one has ever heard of. For three generations, the Luz del Mundo had an incredible control on his community that began in Mexico and then grew across the United States, until one day. A day of reckoning for the man whose millions of followers called him, the Apostle. Their leader was arrested, and survivors began to speak out about the sexual abuse, the murder, and corruption.

This is just a business, and their product are people. They want to know that, they will kill you. Listen to all episodes now on the I Heart Ready Up, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcasts. Detective Ben Boyzin spent most of his adult life in Kruger's Dwarf. He was a member of a special unit called the Hawks for many years. He targets corruption and organized crime. Before he received the call from Mani Victor, he already knew about the nameless fear that

stonked his town. And he watched his Facebook became the new town square. When the three appointments, Keelings happened in Krugasdorp, the people went on Facebook and they say, oh, there's need to stop now because all the people fear to get out of the houses at night and stuff like that. And somebody said on Facebook, they wish they can get a good cop now to investigate this. Despite Ben's calling to serve and protect, he still knew what he would be up against, should he get involved. I said, still knew what he would be up against should he get involved. I said, yeah, I wish I can do it, but sometimes you need to watch what you wish for because it can come true.

On June 6th, Ben agreed to lead the sprawling murder investigation under one condition. So I said, I will take over the investigation, but I'll do it on my own. Ben was under no illusions about what to expect from local cops. He echoed a sentiment that we in the US are unfortunately all too familiar with. Many overworked, underpaid and under trained cops are punching the clock in a broken system. Signing six, seven cops out to seven or eight different people to take statements and stuff. Somewhere, somewhere, somebody's going to not mention stuff in a statement and you're going to lose your golden thread in the investigation. I love that image, a golden thread, a through line, a theme, a pattern, an MO.

Here's Detective, Violin Winter. We realized that certain other murders that was committed prior at the same motor sparranty, where people will be called for an appointment and after the appointment they disappeared. Thankfully, Ben had Mani's rock solid team of road-tested investigators helping him dig for evidence. Maybe in this case, they were the exception. But in order to keep hold of that golden threat of his, Detective Boisin did accept the full way to responsibility on this investigation, and he knew he could rely on himself to see it through or die trying.

Meanwhile, laying low at Cassana Flats, Cecilian Miranda, with the help of John Barnard, planned their next hit. More insurance fraud, more murder, more maham was on the horizon for EPD. And Zach Valentine was still in hiding. He had taken shelter with the Christian ministry in a neighboring district. Cecilia was too blinded by her lust for money and power to see what was coming. The war she had waged against her fellow humans, the spell she had cast on her followers, was about to boomerang. Justice Cecilia had taken down Rhea by attacking those close to her. The police would infiltrate Cecilia's inner circle, and break the very people she had scared into submission. As Detective Ben Boyzen got acquainted with the details of the killings, neither he nor

the war room officers had any idea how many murderers they were dealing with. But then there was a breakthrough. Here's Detective Vinter. Normally when money is withdrawn from ATM over a certain amount. The ATM will actually capture a photograph of you. After triangulating some cell phone data, the task team had narrowed their search to focus on West Kruger's door. They retrieved the CCTV footage from the ATMs

that corresponded with the three victims with thralls around the time of their deaths. The images were blurry, but the police could tell that the suspects were young, possibly even teenagers. Then, one of her Kruger's sources pointed out that the suspects looked a lot like Miranda Steinskits, the same Miranda Stein that had been brought in for questioning in the aftermath of more than one homicide. Here's Detective Vinter, who was were in the stine that had been brought in for questioning in the aftermath of more than one homicide. Here's Detective Vinter, who was busy in the war room. We did a social media profile on the link. We were actually went and added look at the relevant social media, the Facebooks, the Twitter's, other accounts I had, to actually obtain all the photographs that can be used

for comparison purposes. With not much more than blurry footage and a potential social media photo comparison, Detective Kruger took a field trip. This was curious to see what the tutorial looked like in the same look I've got on my video footage. When he knocked on the door, what the two children looked like in the same way that I got on my video footage. When he knocked on the door,

the door burned. Surprisingly, she didn't seem alarmed or even averse to talk into him. I then went to the flat that morning when my round I was staying and I interviewed the Oscar about the children and said, we're doing investigation. Did they mind to come to the police station for photos? I was taking a big chance because I had no access to the reason for them to come in. He was stunned when his gambit actually paid off. She found me about two o'clock that afternoon and said they were waiting for us at the police station.

I couldn't believe it. Miranda assumed the cops would never put together a legitimate case against her, or her children, or Cecilia, or any of the others. For years, local police failed to do exactly that. Why would it be any different this time? So, I came in. Now, what we callonden, een kentel en een kentel. De kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel van kentel I couldn't believe myself, it's actually happening. The golden thread was starting to shine through the bramble. On the day Hanley was murdered, Marcel received an acceptance letter to medical school.

Here's Detective Susette, recalling the harsh reality that Marcel was facing. She took out her frustrations in her diary. She was actually a very, very clavicle with distinctions in all her subjects. And at the back of this diary, she wrote, and big letters, I don't know why my mother is doing this to me.

When Miranda heard that Marcel got into school, she flew into a rage. Marcel pleaded with her mother, but Miranda would hear nothing of it. When Marcel wouldn't let it go, her mother threatened to get rid of her, just as they had gotten rid of Michaela. Here's Maritska again.

And Larude told me straight up that Michaela's murder was always the example. You know, like to say that the same can happen to you. Miranda threatened Larue as well when he resisted killing Hanley. There was a lot of back and forth between Miranda and Hanley while they negotiated money out of her. When it came time to end her life, Laroux begged his mother not to make him do it. He called Hanley a teni, so that's like an auntie, an elderly woman in Africa.

And he couldn't get rid of his heart to kill a teni. And then his mom actually turned the gun on him and says, listen, yeah, if you're not going to kill her, I'm going to kill you and I'm going to kill you, and I'm going to kill her anyway. Leroux later told Maritska that Cecilia grew increasingly ruthless leading up to the final appointment murder. By that point, EPD had a kill list, which included Leroux's father. Leroux had recently started to rebuild this relationship. He was trying to convince his father he wants to be part of his life again.

How did Cecilia respond? She told the Rue to take out a life insurance policy. Two, in fact. One for his father and one for himself. Leroux was now on high alert, but he continued to follow orders and scheduled a fishing trip with his estranged father. It happened to fall on the day after Miranda brought her children in to be photographed by the cops. That morning, placing worms on a hook, Leroux floated the life insurance policy idea to his father, but this conversation would be interrupted. That's why he was there when he was arrested, because he was trying to convince his father that he can take a policy out on his father's life.

On July 23rd, 2016, the Rousse Stein was arrested. He was sitting by a dam, fishing with his father when the police descended. LaRue was apprehended just outside a Kruger's door and handed over to Mani Victor's test team. The prosecutor then charged the 20-year-old with kidnapping, robbery, and three counts of murder. Later that same day, police busted down Miranda's door at Cassana Flats to arrest Marcel. When they searched her belongings, they found a baseball cap and dogpags that matched the ones I deed in the CCTV footage. As they rummaged through the apartment, one of the arresting officers spied a pot plant

on the back porch. marijuana was still illegal in South Africa at the time. Since it was Miranda's home, they cuffed her and threw her in the paddy wagon too. When questioned, Marcel and LaRue obediently stuck to their rehearsed story. Detective Ben Boyzen says the police didn't really have much evidence to go on. The cases that the police have against them is only they went and drove the money off the deceased. And Marcel's explanation thereof was that a brother got it from the Nigerians and the

Nigerians gave them the penamas and they were only was supposed to go and throw the money for the Nigerians. In South Africa, Nigerians is most often an unfortunate post-apart hide shorthand for drug dealers. In just three weeks time, many victors' war room put Miranda, Marcel, and LaRue all behind bars. Just in time to save the life of a local doctor, who is the next scheduled victim from their ever-growing kill list. This investigation might seem slow, given the CCTV footage, but this pace was impressive when compared to the way cases were typically managed.

In American movies that they might, you know, there's a murder and there's a lot of cops investigating it and within two or three weeks everybody's arrested and inside Africa doesn't work like that. If you get a case, it's your case, you investigate it. Nobody else assisted you investigate it. Detective Ben Boizen is an old school type, a man of service and honor. He's a cop because he had a calling. And he's also the author of On the Devil's Trail, how I hunted down the Kroogra's Dwarb

Killers. The biggest problem that most of the policemen do when they investigate the crime, where Satanism is involved, they want to investigate Satanism. Satanism is not a crime. It's a religion. So it's not against the law. So you still need to focus on the murder. Unlike prior special investigators, Detective Ben Boizen wasn't the least bit captivated by the salacious.

He had no time for the supernatural. He came to solve crimes, not to speculate about witches and blood drinkers. Ben Boyzin was a dog at cop. His heart was in it, fully committed to bringing justice to the wronged and peace to the grieving. However, this case would test even him. Miranda would once again find her way out of police custody, and the task team would continue to search for the conductor of this cacophony Queen Havoc herself. This time, Miranda and Cecilia had officially met their match. Detective Ben Boyzen would not rest until the killing ceased.

That is the school where Maranda used to teach. When did she stop teaching? When I rest it though. On the next episode of Queen Havoc, Larustain made a confession. They managed to ID him as Zac Valentine. For a young boy like that picking up a date person and allowing them into a vehicle it's totally not possible.

She wasn't involved in any actual killing. She used the people to do it for her. While I was speaking to him in prison, I've got the saints that is protecting the people around him. Queen Havec in her murder cult is a production of School of Humans and I Heart podcasts. Queen Havec is hosted and created by me, Kurt Kubicek, produced and written by Jennifer Tachini, Julia Kriskao,

and Kurt Kubicek. Lead producer is Julia Kriska. Story editor is Seren Burnett. Senior producer is Amelia Brock. Production manager is Daisy Church. Original music composed by Claire Campbell. Editing, sound design, and scoring by Jesse Nyzwonger, additional editing by Miranda Hawkins. Associate producers are Dashin Moodley and Jameen Kracher, additional producing by Ben Melman, fact-checking by Dennis Webster. Recording engineers are Graham Gibson, Clay Hillenberg, and Josh Hook. Executive producers are Virginia Prescott, LC Crowley, Brandon Barr, Jennifer Tkini, and Kurt Kubuchek.

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