Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - Perry Masonry on the Case

Episode Date: February 18, 2022

Sick Tones and Flintstones! Soren lets us know who the sexiest Bedrock resident is, and Daniel basically tells us why he kind of hates his favorite band. And as always thanks to our sponsors.  Thanks... BetterHelp.  Get 10% off your first month at betterhelp.com/qq. Thanks Hawthorne. Take your quiz and get 10% off your first purchase at hawthorne.co with code QQ. Shop with confidence — get Honey for FREE at JoinHoney.com/qq. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 so hello again and welcome to another episode of quick question with soren and daniel the podcast where two best friends and comedy writers ask each other questions and give each other answers i am one half of that podcast author and scuba student daniel o'brien joined as always by my co-host mr soren buoy soren say hello hello everybody i'm soren buoy i'm a writer for american dad and it's just now occurring to me i don't know where our intro music came from and it seems criminal seems lunch money criminal that you didn't create the music for us. I'm trying to think if I did in fact create it. I don't think I did. No, I think it sounds very pulled from like a stock.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Yeah. It wasn't like Dan Campana somehow? No, I think at some point Bacon just made an executive decision and was like, he started just listening through a bunch of free credit tracks and was like, okay, this one will do. And that was it. Yeah. And that's what we have now. So here's, I want to, I can definitely confirm that Gabe did not make it or have a hand in it because we started before this was this predates gabe yeah he wasn't born yet yeah yeah he was but a twinkle in our shared eye um so i don't so i can't be insulting him i i do not like it no i don't either wait so there was a moment where you thought maybe you had
Starting point is 00:01:27 created it and you're like it sucks but this is what it'll have to this is what it'll have to be because i because i because we've been doing this podcast for what feels like a lifetime and i hear that music come up and it's like it's like the after hours theme which was definitely made by me abe and mich Swaim, where I listened to it and it's like, this isn't the greatest piece of music in the world, but what do you want? We're fucking comedians. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:50 And that, when I listened to the quick question theme song, I'm like, that's not my favorite thing I've ever done. But you know, it's, it's pretty impressive considering I don't play whatever instrument that is. So let's see, we, when you did, uh, Agents of uh agents of cracked you did your brother create that music for the show yes that is wonderful it's a wonderful little piece of music that like and there are little things in my house where i walk around and i thought when i first moved in that i would change them and i just become blind to them and it wasn't until today where i was like
Starting point is 00:02:18 wait a second our song sucks yeah i definitely i feel like i remember uh when we were first talking about doing this podcast and i thought i was going to devote a whole lot more time and energy to it not creating the theme song but like really going through every podcast that i listened to and thinking about their theme songs and what i liked about them and like writing out notes for like this is this is the right length this is the right kind of vibe this is what we should be doing here are podcast theme songs that are that are great to listen to like 10 times but then you hate that it comes on because it's too long uh and i guess i either never gave anyone those notes or uh gave them and they were ignored because at no point did i ever say my favorite
Starting point is 00:03:06 kind of podcast theme song is sort of like a grating electronic assault now i did make our uh the the theme song for when we had a sports corner that's right um and i really liked that one it was it was exactly what i wanted it to be which was was a song that I hated, but it was like wailing shrilly guitar with some like heavy drums underneath. Yeah. Thanks to Better Health for supporting Quick Question. For 10% off your first month, go to betterhelp.com slash QQ. Start living a better life today. Thanks to Hawthorne for supporting Quick Question.
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Starting point is 00:04:17 applies the best ones available at checkout. Go to joinhoney.com slash QQ. I think Reply All has maybe my favorite piece of music as their theme song. Yeah. Breakmaster cylinder is, and there's a couple of other things that breakmaster cylinder has done for Gimlet and I love it. And in fact, actually all of the Gimlet shows, I really love, they had a show called, what was it? Oh, Star hosted it. But they did You'll Go Far, which is a really great song. Heavyweight has a really great song as their theme song. God, we need a better one.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Yeah. Hey, I wonder, our audience always surprises us when I learn literally any information about them. It's always a surprise to me. So I wonder if we've got any musicians or audio engineers out there that would like to submit songs and we could play them on the show. And if one of them becomes our theme song, we'll give some amount of money. Can I make that promise? I think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah. I'm made of money. I don't know if you heard about my fight on the train. I'm made of money can i make that promise i think so yeah yeah i'm made of money i don't know if you heard about my fight on the train i'm made of money all right so we'll make it official i guess yeah everyone email your your original song compositions to uh the quick question email question what is our email again qq with soren and daniel at gmail.com yeah let's just that's right isn't it yeah okay then yes please email them there i don't we haven't even rick really there's no amount of money has been specified as of this point so don't like break your back trying to make this song for us yeah because it'll it it's... I have a figure in my head,
Starting point is 00:06:07 and this contest is designed for someone who is in it for love of the game, and not necessarily... Yeah. No one's retiring off this prize. No, probably not. But since we're talking about music, we should continue doing that.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Oh, okay. You texted me today with some exciting news. Hey, quick question, Soren. Go ahead. Can you tell me that thing again that you texted me earlier? Yeah. I was sitting in my car and listening to... So now Spotify creates playlists around what you've been listening to.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And I gave Steel Train a real fair shake at the gym and everything. I gave this album to you, a Steel Train album to you years ago. Let me back up. So years and years ago, Daniel gave me a CD back when everyone had CD players. And it was this band that he liked called Steel Train. And it was like a, this was a solemn occasion where he both hands delivered this thing to me and was like, this is music that I like. And I think maybe you would like, I never talked to Dan about it ever again. I never listened to it again.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I never listened to it even once. I don't think. And, and, uh, that was wrong of me. I'll acknowledge that, that let me also say that I was the bad guy in this situation, and then we brought it up on the podcast, so I thought I should go give it a real try, and I listened to Steel Train, and I was like, yeah, I see why Dan likes this, and I was like, it's fine. It's not really, it's not like,
Starting point is 00:07:39 I'm not playing the songs over and over in my head, but the other day I was sitting in my car, Spotify created a playlist for me based on my lessons and Steel Train popped up on their song called Bullet. And I was like, yeah, this song slaps, man. This song is really good. What is this? And I like look on my car and I was like, oh, he got me. He got me. He got me. I became a fan of Steel Train. And so I texted Dan today saying I like Steel Train now. It's very exciting to me. And the timing is really interesting for the purposes of mining our lives for content for this show. Because you are coming to Steel Train late.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And Steel Train as a band does not exist anymore. The guitarist and lead singer and principal songwriter, Jack Antonoff, is now the most prolific songwriter and producer in pop music and has a separate endeavor called Bleachers. And before that, he was with the band Fun. So he's just been like top of the pop charts for the last 10 years now, probably more. So Steel Train is never going to happen again, far as i know but the the wild thing about coming to steel train late is that band uh had a completely different lead singer with an entirely different vibe when they first started out and it was like several albums with this one guy who's who had a uh like genuinely beautiful uh low-key voice he a singer, but just like he was like very mellow, very subdued, just a pleasant sounding guy you want to sing.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You want to hear sing lullabies to you. And a lot of us, me and my friends came to this band from other bands that were just like popular in New Jersey. A bunch of them formed and broke up and then made Steel Train. So we were like along for the ride of Steel Train. A few albums in, the original lead singer leaves and Jack Antonoff, the guitarist, becomes the lead singer. And he has got such a dramatically different voice from this original guy. Because again, the original guy is this like mellow, subdued lullaby guy and jack anson off has that kind of
Starting point is 00:09:46 jacked up janky ass spazzy voice that i like naturally gravitate towards i think if you can hear it still even in in bleachers just this very like wild uh character heavy voice that he's got two completely different vibes for the same band and if you are someone like me or my childhood friends or like diehard steel train fans you're just like along for the ride you're you're here no matter what because you're you're brand loyal to this band it's and you are ride or die with whatever changes they have i wonder what it's like for you because if you just now found steel train and you liked one song you can't go to spotify and just say right play steel train because you're it's there's no guarantee that you're gonna you're gonna like all of that yeah it's all Okay. That's true of most bands though. Like I, my favorite band, uh, of all time is wean. And I will say, even though they didn't like
Starting point is 00:10:50 move around a lot in terms of, uh, people in the band, uh, I find some wean songs completely unlistenable. Some of them are some of the worst songs I've ever heard in my life, but that they, that's just a testament to how good the great ones are that they pull me back in and are like some of the best songs i've ever heard yeah i wanted to talk to you about this because ween is like is adjacent to a band that i'm thinking about for this specific topic uh the same way that steel train popped up for you they might be giants will occasionally pop up in thanks to the spotify, because there are, there's so much overlap between they might be giants and the kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:11:29 that I regularly, regularly listen to. But I've, I'm so aware that so much of their music is weird and sucks fucking shit that I have been working this, this, I guess, lifetime project.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I started a couple about a week ago. I'm trying to make a playlist of They Might Be Giants songs that are just the good ones that I like. Because I can't, it's not safe to just listen to all of it for me. So what I do is, because I can't do it all day, but for like an hour every day, I will have Spotify just randomly play any, they might be giants. And then I move them into what I'm just deciding is the only good, they might be giant song. And it is, this project is such a fucking slog. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Well, they're super prolific too. Yeah. They've done so much and so much of it is weird and bad and like bad on purpose sometimes I think. Yeah. In that ween sort of way where they're like, we're going to play a show because we're mad at our fans right now. Yeah. So I use a huge, they might be Giants fan when I was younger, probably like end of middle school, beginning of high school. And I felt like I kind of outgrew them.
Starting point is 00:12:47 You know what you turn me on to them? Tiny Tunes. Tiny Tunes had two songs that they played. One of them was Triangle Man and the other one was Istanbul, not Constantinople. Particle Man. I'm sorry. Particle Man. Why Triangle Man? Yeah. It's okay. Particle Man. And they did basically essential music videos to these songs which i don't know how they got away with that that like at some point somebody tell you to like hey i really like this band let's just do a music video for it um and i was i started to
Starting point is 00:13:13 really like them i got very into them i know them very very well now i'm very intimate with their catalog but have not listened to them in probably 20 years. I think I'm putting together a good playlist, but it's again, I can't, I need to just step away from They Might Be Giants because it's not just that I don't like the song. Some of them make me actively angry because they feel like troll jobs as songs. Even the really good ones, I feel like are clever at the sacrifice of earnestness. good ones i feel like are clever at the sacrifice of earnestness like they're all they want to be clever so badly yeah in a way where i'm like you're it's not a bit just do a song you're okay to do like an earnest song like i don't know i'm trying to think of an example flood's got a lot of them flood's got like a birdhouse in your soul which could be a very sentimental and good song
Starting point is 00:14:03 but then it's like talks about jason the argonauts and like how you'd kill him if you were if you were in charge of a lighthouse and like it gets weird it this is also i'm i'm finding like kind of an impossible project to do because i can't just search what are the best they might be giant songs because like they have best of albums i'm like no no no no. I don't trust you to know. And I can't go to our dear friend Cody Johnston because he's too close to it. He loves them too much. Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 00:14:32 And he grew up with them. And he thinks all their music is good. It's the same problem I had with another friend of ours, Katie Willard. Oh, Spoon. I was a lifelong Spoon fan. And I really only heard Underdog. And I liked it.
Starting point is 00:14:48 But I was like, hey, Katie, make me a mix of the good Spoon songs. Like some essential good Spoon songs. And she gave me two full CDs. She couldn't focus it to like 12 good songs. It was like, no, here's 28 songs. I'm like, well, damn, I guess I'll never listen to this. Yeah. The people that are like, that are too invested, you just can't trust their opinion.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Because they will come back to you and they'll be like, well, okay, here, I made you like, I made you an album compilation. It's a two disc set. And look, you're gonna have to stick through songs four through seven. Just like, just gut it out. And then you get to some good ones. Because you're like, what? Why? Why do to have to stick through songs four through seven. Just gut it out, and then you'll get to some good ones, because you're like, what? Why? Why do I have to?
Starting point is 00:15:29 Just give me the good ones. Like if someone just told me, hey, I've never listened to Ben Folds or Ben Folds 5, put something together for me, I would come back with three CDs, not in terms of length or amount of songs, but I would be like, this is a good one. If you want like conversational Ben Folds music, and here's another album that is like what I think are the best. And this, this one, uh, I think you'll understand me. So whichever of those three Ben Folds related agendas are most important to you. Right. I would, I would focus on that. Hey, you know what time it is? This is where I ask you, what's interfering with your happiness? Have you been thinking about it? Have you been taking the
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Starting point is 00:19:22 Go to hawthorne.co, hawthorne.co, and use promo code QQ to get 10% off your first purchase. That's H-A-W-T-H-O-R-N-E dot C-O, promo code QQ, hawthorne.co, promo code QQ. I think I would be, I would have a hard time doing that with Ween. Also because with Ween, they're a band that I've seen live a few times and ween songs that i hated until i saw them live i would then suddenly fall in love with having seen it perform like oh i get it and i would i would then think and then i can't ever see where my tracks were before then i can't like look back and be like oh i didn't like that song they won't like this song i think you will love this song here's exactly let me describe what happens live okay so he puts his hand in the't like this song. I think you will love this song. Here's the example. Let me describe what happens live. Okay. So he puts his hand in the air and like this weird, he does this
Starting point is 00:20:08 weird thing with his hand all the time. Try to describe it to you. The live thing is no joke. Someone at work, uh, recently, I'm going to say recently, it was like two years ago. I haven't seen any of my coworkers in two years. Uh, the other day, someone at work said they'd never listened to Dave Matthews' band, What's a Good Album? And I was like, this is going to sound nuts. Live at Red Rocks, like a full live album. You need to hear them jam. It's going to sound crazy because you're going to want to- That does sound crazy. You assume you want like, what are their hits? No their hits are are less important than the experience of letting a dave matthews band concert wash over you and they're like hey some of these tracks are
Starting point is 00:20:52 11 minute jams like yeah that's the best way to experience dave how did somebody miss dave matthews culturally uh let's see if they're not listening to the radio yeah it just felt like it was so omnipresent it was ubiquitous for such a long time and it i guess maybe it was just also the age that we were that it was seminal yeah but it was it i didn't know a single person that didn't own crash no everyone i knew that's true i guess i didn't think about it when when he asked me all those years ago it's like they bet they they weren't like there's no movie scene that is uh inextricably linked with a Dave Matthews band song until Lady Bird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Huh. If he just spent his entire life listening to, I don't know. What radio station didn't play Dave Matthews band? I have Sirius now. And three of my program stations might have Dave Matthewsthews band at any given time yeah that's another band that boy everybody grew out of at the same time not me yeah you still really know still listen to satellite every other night no i i but i of the six like pre-chosen serious stations in on my car radio i would say the one that is dave matthews band radio is my
Starting point is 00:22:27 most reliable if i have a a long drive and i don't i want to just like put something on and never have to skip that's i'm putting dave matthews band all the way okay uh now there's a my brother had a really funny dave mat Dave Matthews experience recently where when we were younger, uh, we listened to Dave Matthews a lot. He and I together, I don't mean like we huddle around the fire, like it was a fireside chat or anything like we, we just both listened to them a lot. Um, now there was a song that he was like trying to find, it was a song that I downloaded off a lime wire. He had never heard before. He couldn't remember what album it was from or anything. And, uh, he was like, there was this song that I downloaded off of LimeWire. He had never heard before. He couldn't remember what album it was from or anything. And he was like, there was this song.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Can I just sing you a little bit of it? Because I'm trying to find it. I can't remember it. And it's driving me crazy. So he tried and I was like, I have no idea what that is. And then I started like just rattling off songs and trying to find something. He was describing the tempo of it and everything. And together we just couldn't come up with it. And then a
Starting point is 00:23:25 few months later I was like, Hey, did you ever find that Dave Matthews song? And he said that it came to him in a dream. He was in a dream and he's walking around and the song came on and like an overhead speaker. And he was like, Oh, Oh, that's the Dave Matthews song I was looking for. And he sat there and just listened to the lyrics of it and then typed those lyrics into google like when he woke up and it was the song angel oh and he nailed it like he had it and i was that's never been that easy for me my brain has never just been like here's a gift here you go never in a dream but i have uh do you ever have like problems solved or memories uh come back you were looking for while you were on a hike in nature walking around hard to say i don't think so no
Starting point is 00:24:18 i'm so taken by the majesty that's the problem problem. Yeah. I mean, it's... I read about it being an actual thing. That it's supposed to... Or maybe I made that up. I'm not going to Google it now. Because that's going to take up too much time. But some kind of... Some marriage of like walking and being in nature does something very positive to the brain.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Interesting. And the most recent experience that I had with it was, you told me, you texted me a joke that referenced someone we both knew. You said, I'm in a fantasy sports league with Scott Hardy. And then you described a joke that you did. And I don't know if you remember this, I did not respond to your text because I didn't know who you were talking about.
Starting point is 00:25:16 The name was very familiar. And I was trying to think that's a demand media guy. And I don't know who it is. And I don't know why that joke would work with that person's name. I'm just not going to say anything. Let soren think his joke bombed and move on yeah and then sometime later i was hiking with my brother david that was when we were uh backpacking in the pembic juicet loop and like i don't know nine miles into this trek i was like oh scott hardy he did sound for us in After Hours. Oh, that's very funny. That's a good joke, sorry. That's good. Yeah. I remember this inside bit now. All right. I should tell him when I get back to land. It does happen to me in the car. It happens to me when I'm showering and stuff. Anytime
Starting point is 00:26:03 that I'm doing something that my brain can just sort of turn off or like it's on cruise control. It can be like, oh, I got a little time to think now. And then stuff will come to me where I'm like, oh, I just put it all together. You know, it's like I have a lock. I have a combination lock that I used to put on my locker at the gym. And then when I joined Equinox, you didn't need those anymore. And so, it just sat in my car for a long time. And then recently I started trying out some new gyms. I went and put this lock on a locker. And then immediately after I heard the
Starting point is 00:26:33 click went, I'm not confident. I know what this combination is. And just like started thinking about it while I was working out and everything and I'm worrying about it. And then I thought, you know what? Maybe muscle memory will just get me there. And so I sat there in front of the locker and just started spinning it. And, you know, you get that lead up like that.
Starting point is 00:26:52 You get to basically like a running start with any combination lock where you just start spinning it 16 times to the right. And so I was like, and I was like, okay, here we go. Because you got to make sure you have to make sure that the lock also is engaged and knows that like, oh, something's happening. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Because this is, the two of you will need to be working together. It has to wake up. Right. You have to give it fair warning that you're about to do specific numbers. It's like, okay, hold on. Let me grab a pen. All right. Tell me what you want to do.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And, and so I just, I just like went to a number and I was like, hope that's right. And then went to another number and I was like, okay, that feels like it could be it. And went to another number and I nailed it. Like I had it. And it wasn't like I had ever remembered what the numbers were. It was just this pattern. I knew what I had to like go past. I need to go past 20 or whatever on the first one.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And beyond that, everything after that was exclusively this like beautiful muscle memory, but it's just, we have, I think there are these moments where as soon as you are engaged in that polished work, like something that you do over and over and over again, like putting one foot in front of the other, your brain is just like, okay, I had these superpowers and I'm going to unlock them now. My brain would do it. And I think this is actually a pretty common thing for folks in the service
Starting point is 00:28:06 industry. When I would be, when I would drive home from either bartending or waiting tables, just sitting there, enjoying my thoughts. And then 20 minutes into the drive, that guy said, medium rare.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Fuck. I did the wrong thing and he didn't say anything. Shit. Ah, well, not gonna let it ruin my day, but just correct orders come rushing back to me when there's nothing I could do about them. Oh, no. Oh, I should call him.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah, that happens when you're going to sleep too. I guess that's probably also the same sort of thing. That's like a practiced habit where your job is to lie there and just close your eyes and just try to like disassociate. And inevitably these thoughts from 1998 start rolling in. You're like, oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. I don't think I ever wrote my pen pal back. Or like that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:29:08 So I don't remember your question so let's just say yes yeah i just wanted to talk about music uh and i'm i'm excited for you to go on a steel train journey knowing that if you just put on steel train as like an artist playlist it's going to take you to some places that might upset you. Right. And that you didn't intend for me to go. That's fair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I am curious to hear what you end up doing with They Might Be Giants and what you end up putting on that list. I would... I have eight on here so far. Do you want to hear them? Yeah. Or do you want me to wait? I may not even know some of them because I stopped listening to them after like Flood.
Starting point is 00:29:42 It starts out... It's pretty i like fun heavy so i'm thinking that's the album that has like that's so far the album that has the greatest hit rate i've got let's get this over with which is a banger of a song okay mrs blue beard all time what i left my body another first kiss man it's so loud in here this fucking band the guitar and experimental film i know the only song i know from that is the guitar really none of those other songs yeah that's another thing that's gonna it's i by the end of this process i'm gonna have what i think is a perfect they might be giants playlist but if if i end up with a bunch of obscure tracks that
Starting point is 00:30:23 no one else knows about that's's going to be a real, real bummer for me. I'm going to send you some and you can decide, you can like listen to them and you can be like, okay, yeah, yeah, that makes sense for this.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Or you can say no, which you most likely do with most of them. It's a personal journey for you. Um, I discovered another van recently, Dan, that I'm excited about. Another van that I'm excited about.
Starting point is 00:30:44 All right. Have you heard of the, are we talking like, like, that I'm excited about. Another van? Another van that I'm excited about. Alright. Have you heard of the... Are we talking like Wilder or Plymouth Voyager? Yeah, like the Aerostar. Okay. I discovered a band recently, and the first few times that I heard this song from the band, I thought
Starting point is 00:31:00 for sure it was the Islands. Or Islands. Islands. I thought for sure it was Islands, and it i thought islands i thought for sure it was islands and it's not it's a band called the vaccines or actually i think it's just vaccines boy am i having a hard time with these signifiers uh it's just oh it is the vaccines okay and they have a song called i always knew and i thought it sounds so much like the guitars. Everything in it is very, very islands in a way where I was like, it has to be,
Starting point is 00:31:29 it has to be them. And no, it's this, it's this band that's been around since like 2011 called the vaccines. And I'm really liking them. And I think this is like in our Venn diagram of music that we like it, it's right in that overlap. It's right in that shaded region because the lead singer is not trying.
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Starting point is 00:33:23 All right. Go ahead. I was watching i told you recently that i was watching the sopranos and that i was really demoralized and disheartened to learn that tony soprano in the in the first episode of that is like 39 or 40 because that's how old i am and i look at Soprano and I go, no, no, we're not that. We can't be the same age. Somebody had just posted on Twitter the other day that in the first episodes of, uh, the show Frazier, Frazier is like 40 also didn't make me feel very good. If you go, that doesn't make you, you don't look at Frazier and be like, oh man, I look so much better than Frazier.
Starting point is 00:34:03 No, it doesn't work that way. It doesn't work. It only makes you think, oh no, is that what they're supposed to look like? I haven't looked at the portrait in my attic in a long time, but if it looks like that, then I'm in serious trouble. So then I started just doing this deep dive into like the ages of different characters on shows. And for the most part, live action, it's all fine. It's all like, it's what you'd expect, or maybe everybody's playing a little younger. That's fine. But it gets really fucking crazy with cartoons. Where like, I started looking at the ages of cartoon characters.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And as a kid, you don't know, because as a kid, anyone over 20 years old is old. Like, you'd have no context for what, at what point things should be happening in your life. And that's fine because kids don't know. And I didn't realize it till now, but also it's not kids making those shows. Like there's adults making these shows and just making these crazy choices. I'll give you some examples. So I looked up the Jetsons. George is 40. That's fine. George is 40. Jane is 33. A little younger, I would say. Yeah, Jane's pretty young. But here's the rub. Judy is 16 years old. Their oldest daughter is 16, which if my math is right, and generally it's not, that means that Jane was 17 years old when she had Judy. It's not. That means that Jane was 17 years old when she had Judy. Probably.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Didn't we talk about, did we not talk about this on After Hours? We didn't. No, this is. Wow. Yeah, this is wild. Wow. Here, I'm going to give you another one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:41 How old do you think that Gargamel is? Gargamel, the. From the Smurfs that. Yeah, he's not um a monster right no he's a wizard who wants to eat the smurf he's a guy he's like a ball hunched over wizard runs around a big burlap sack or a cloak i guess yeah but uh he's got that raspy voice how old do you think gargamel is i'm gonna say a hard 52 i would think so too no gargamel's in his 30s gargamel's like late 30s gargamel it is you're the same age as gargamel yeah it's not i i think i get what you're saying with uh the fact that like creators made these decisions writers and animators decided because it's not like i'm not looking at fraser and being like oh man in the past that's
Starting point is 00:36:25 what a 39 year old looked like but i am looking at gargamel and thinking about a bunch of professional writers who are like yeah this guy looks 36 that's what i think of when i think of 36 year olds and i guess maybe it's like medieval times and things are different than i don't know uh but yeah he's like late 30s and that that really bummed me out but then so i started just like reading the biographies of these characters because i started to get very invested and i looked at the flintstones flintstones are pretty good in age but then i just started just discovering these crazy facts like uh wilma fred flintstone's wife has a maiden name do you want to know what it is uh wilma can you tell me if it's if it's not most of the other
Starting point is 00:37:08 names that it's not it doesn't not something rock related at all no oh okay yeah it's a real it's a it's dark horse name onassis that's a great guess but no that's wrong wilma's maiden name is Slag Hoople. I also found out that Betty and Barney never had a child. They adopted Bam Bam? Bam Bam showed up on their doorstep. Somebody had dropped off an infant on their doorstep. And then there's a whole episode where they go through a legal battle for custody of Bam Bam. A legal battle in an episode of The Flintstones
Starting point is 00:37:52 for custody of a child that was dropped off on their doorstep. What? Yeah. Against whom? Perry Masonry. That's the lawyer that I think they're fighting against. I fucking love the Flintstones so much.
Starting point is 00:38:11 That's so great. I found out that you watched Ninja Turtles when you were young. Yeah. Okay. Bebop and Rocksteady. Rocksteady's the rhinoceros and Bebop is the warthog. I don't know if this means anything to you. Maybe it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Bebop is black. Okay. Did that change anything for you? No? Yeah. I think I did know that. It was not... When I was a kid, when any punks were presented in pop culture, they're like with a mohawk and like those little glasses and piercings and stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Punks, when I saw them as kids, that was like a white culture thing. And in the 90s, they were just like that, but he's going to be black. Yeah. but he's going to be black. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that didn't jump out at me because I remember him in human form. Oh, you do? Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah. I don't think I ever knew them in human form. All right. Well, that one doesn't matter to you. Oh, I think I forgot to tell you about Gargamel. Go ahead. Go ahead. It's just so funny to me
Starting point is 00:39:23 that you're doing all these revelations and i was really like trying to think like why is he telling me that bebop was black what because there's no way he just learned that just learned it i was really giving you the benefit of the doubt be like okay what is this what does it culturally mean that he was the warthog nothing i i don't i'm trying it was just like finding out snake eyes like for like snake eyes was el salvadorian i'd be like i gotta bring that up uh gargamel's i think i forgot to tell you about gargamel and i don't know why they put this in his past uh his direct ancestor is uh judas the one who betrayed jesus don't know why that mattered to
Starting point is 00:40:08 them um and then just a couple more here dan that i found one is that inspector gadget did you ever watch inspector gadget sure did so everything that on his body obviously his voice command he just says go go gadget and then whatever it is except for one thing uh the phone the he has a phone in his hand and it's he cannot use that by using his voice like he can't he only can be called on it by his boss and it's like yeah he's a it's a pinky in his thumb like you're pretending to be on the phone but he also has a phone in his hat too that he just never uses then there's one last one that really threw me and that's that uh in yogi bear boo-boo uh who do you think boo-boo is to yogi nephew yeah that sounds right right it's not son but they always do that with shows
Starting point is 00:41:01 like there's a nephew yeah boo- Boo-Boo's another adult bear. What? That's just small. They're just buddies? They're just friends. That's fun. So anyway, I poured over this for a while, just thinking about these different shows. And I was like, okay, well, what the fuck am I going to find out about Smurfs now? And going and doing a dive into it, I'm like, okay, well, what the fuck am I going to find out about Smurfs now? And like going and doing a dive into it, I mean, like, okay, I learned a lot.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah. Here's a follow-up quick question. Are you on a deadline or something? Oh, that's a great question. Why would I be doing this right now? No. Yeah. This really reeks of, look, I can't focus on work right now.
Starting point is 00:41:45 This is way too important. I have a lot of things accumulating in my life outside of work that I'm supposed to be getting done. I see. And they are, they're like tough stuff. Like they're things where there's a lot of details to it, renovations and things like that. And there's going to be a party for my 40th and we're also going to do a different party for Colleen's and all these things kind of there's stuff I should be doing constantly in all my free time. So naturally I'm doing none of it. And instead, yeah, of course doing deep
Starting point is 00:42:16 times into the Scooby-Doo for 50, 55 minutes. And then being like, no, nothing in Scooby-Doo. Oh, well, and just moving on time enjoyed is not time wasted i don't know that i enjoy it um but anyway that's i was i was blown stones flintstones i'm really hung up on flintstones perry masonry yeah because i i should probably re-watch all of flintstones because it seems like what a what a sweet writer's room that must have been because it's just basic sitcom plots and then every once in a while someone has to be like and and they put on the tv and on the tv it's a it's a they're watching the tonight show with johnny roxanne good yeah that would have been yeah that now it's flintstones that's what makes it flintstones baby right it's gotta yeah it's it's just puns on yeah all that it's just it's fully an episode of The Honeymooners, but then they're like, oh, but then he has to go to work at the, yeah, rock plant.
Starting point is 00:43:30 A rock quarry. Rock dinosaur. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, which is why Slag Hoople is such a weird turn, a weird left turn. I looked up Betty's as well. Betty's isn't as weird, but it's still a little bizarre. Betty's main name is McBricker. McBricker?
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yeah. Okay. Sounds like pornographic somehow to me. I don't know why. Maybe it's just because Betty's hot. Yeah. It opens up a whole world of like, oh, before. So there was like Scotland.
Starting point is 00:44:06 There was like some, something, some kind of prehistoric Scotland. Yeah, it does. With their specific naming conventions. It's weird. Like when Fred would get a concussion and then become Italian somehow. He'd be like, it's me, the race car driver. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Where is he from? What are you talking about? Everybody knows what a race car is. Yeah. McBricker. Yeah, I guess the Scotland, it would have to have come from there. Where are they?
Starting point is 00:44:41 Do we know? Do we assume that they're in the United States? In the town of bedrock you fucking stump did you not come across that in your research pangea i meant bigger where the fuck are they where is bedrock all right um yeah well uh anyway this is not the end of my searches by the way i'm i'm confident that this my other chores will not go away so i'm gonna be looking through hannah barbara for a long time i'm gonna get deep i'm gonna go into like uh the original ghostbusters the ghostbusters that were
Starting point is 00:45:17 on hannah barbara that were i think they had like a season of it and there was an ape in it. Yeah. There's a, so according to Wikipedia, Bedrock's population was 2,500 people. That is- That's huge. That's more than my current town. Oh, it did swell to 30,000 in a dream sequence in the sixth season episode entitled Rip Van Flintstone. What?
Starting point is 00:45:43 God, I love this show. Why? Why? What? how could that be a plot point that your town went up 5 000 people in a dream i don't want to hear about anybody's dream hey fred i had a dream our population went up 5,000 people. I'm going to... If you can stretch that Barney impression for a little bit longer, I'm just going to silently read the Wikipedia page about bedrock. It was the craziest thing.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Everything was the same, except, you know, that little vacant lot over on the end of uh at the end of o'shale well there was a house there the new family had moved in and it was happening all over bedrock well not all over bedrock but enough that i noticed when i was at the grocery stone sure there's a uh that's really good stuff there's uh there's there's definitely some cracked style articles to be mined out of just really digging into this history because just even things that i'm sure were written for like you're doing this show for however many seasons you need a this episode you need a that episode you need you body switching, mistaken identity, memory loss, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Spending the night at a scary house. And so, yeah. And just a throwaway line in this Wikipedia page. Also located near Bedrock is Camp Millstone Army Base, where Fred and his best friend Barney were stationed after they were mistakenly inducted into the army. So I'm sure that was just like the writer's room. We're thinking like, oh, yeah, it would be fun to do like, like an army episode, put them through bootcamp, basic training kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:29 You know, we'll do like some, uh, uh, uh, mash homage or whatever, or a platoon homage, whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:34 We just want to do like, like the army episode of the Flintstones, but that just opens up a whole world of like, who are they going to war with? Right. It's kind of exciting. It's exciting just to think about it's uh it's also pretty exciting we don't need to do anything with it yeah that panic is gone huh that panic they used to feel it cracked when like a new piece of information would present
Starting point is 00:48:05 itself to you. And instead of getting excited, you would go, oh no. Yeah. You come across the Flintstones had an army episode and then it's like, okay, do I think will I be able to find three more things of escalating surprise to fill an After Hours episode? things of, of escalating surprise to fill an after hours episode. Like I'm going to, I guess I'll watch all of Fraggle Rock and hope that they went to war.
Starting point is 00:48:36 It was a nightmare, honestly. Cause you would, you like, I have to present this in the best possible way. And you're like, that means that I need more of these. I need other examples that I can demonstrate a pattern. And like, you'd just be barking up these trees forever and there'd be nothing there.
Starting point is 00:48:55 The worst example, we did an after hours episode of timelines, like timelines and shows that mess up, uh, that, that, that don't add up. And yeah. Soren wasn't add up. Yeah. Soren wasn't really our title guy. I wrote that episode, not the title. But I remember going through different shows and just going through their entire history, not watching every single episode,
Starting point is 00:49:18 but watching maybe 40% of the episodes and then reading the synopses of other ones and trying to like deciding maybe this will be it. Maybe in How I Met Your Mother, there'll be something with the relationship between him and his wife or him and his mother. No, not his mother. He doesn't marry his mother in that, right?
Starting point is 00:49:36 Yeah. No, that show was about how he meets his own mother. How I met my mother. And getting nowhere. I mean, coming out of the other side and being like well that wasn't it i burned two days on that and that wasn't it so now i'm gonna move on to friends yeah now we don't have to do it anymore and that's great no and now when you when you do your deep dives into into smurfs it's just just to put off drafting your living will or whatever you're supposed to be doing right now.
Starting point is 00:50:09 The nice thing also is that Cracked isn't doing that shit anymore either. Cracked has clearly moved on to just like, hey, did you see this viral tweet? I just saw it from Robert Brockway sharing the cruel irony that there's a cracked article that is just a rundown of a tweet that he made. It was so brutal. It was so literally media is a company that bought, cracked, and then fired a bunch of our friends. Fired Alex, fired Brockway. Did Jason get fired or did he leave on his own terms? He left on his own.
Starting point is 00:50:45 And those guys were institutions at the site. And it was very unceremonious. And I don't think that it was amicable by any means. I think it was pretty abrupt. And then Brockway tweeted something about the guy who invented burpees. And it was a man with the last name Burpee, which is itself a joke. And then with the guy, there's a picture of him that's also this barrel chested weird weird sailor and uh it's all very funny and so then his tweet went viral cheeseburger found it which cheeseburgers owned by literally media and they were like hey look what the internet or look what twitter discovered
Starting point is 00:51:22 like twitter discovered this guy and the bird they did burpees no no indication that they knew who brockway was or that he had worked for them or anything like that and then it became apparent in like the the subsequent tweets and everything they must have known because they're also an aggregate and they start putting up on those articles where it's just like this limp write-up of what's going on and what happened with the tweet the other are uh it auto fills with other tweets that about the same subject that are doing very well on twitter and they're clearly going through and any of the ones that were brockway talking about being fired from literally media they're just like no we're not gonna put that one on there oh look at this one it got 300 300 people looked at this one over 20 people engaged with it
Starting point is 00:52:06 anyway that's that's my own gripe with them yeah it's uh there are there are plenty of gripes to be had all around with that site it's it's it's very fitting to me that outside of the occasional Comic-Con event where we actually had a crowd of people who were excited to see us and screaming and clapping for us, outside of that, there was never a time when it felt like I was on solid ground to say that I worked for Cracked. It felt like I was on solid ground to say that I worked for Cracked. When we were first starting out, no one knew what the site was.
Starting point is 00:53:01 And even when it was popular, a lot of people were not aware that the articles that they were reading every day on Facebook or on Twitter were from Cracked.com and put together by a bunch of people uh and now that it's the future i don't say that i used to work for cracked because what if people go to that website right now yeah that's true uh it is a real bombardment of ads if you go now yeah um but anyway i don't i don't begrudge my time there i was like i needed that it was we were veryudge my time there. I was like, I needed that. We were very lucky to be there when it was happening. And I think we made the most of it and tried to make the best content that we could. And they're probably doing the same thing right now. And it's just the internet's a different place.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Yeah. Well, I guess we should end the show. Sure. All right. I'm going to tell you where you can find all of us and i'm gonna tell you that email address where you can send your version of our theme song i don't know lyrics i haven't made my mind up about that probably not i assume that i like dan's intros underneath it i don't want to hear lyrics over that so i guess no lyrics can i make that stipulation um no i don't want to give
Starting point is 00:54:03 them too many restrictions because like what if we get here's a for instance what if we get like five really great ones and one of them happens to have lyrics in it i think we would probably yeah start each episode with one of these songs and at least like give them a fair shake yeah that's true okay yeah i would this is like complete vanity on my part. And like, don't you want someone, don't you want to hear your name sung? Yeah, that sounds really nice. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Well, you can do that. You can go to email it. You can email that song to QQ with Soren and Daniel at gmail.com. I don't think you can. You don't think so? Oh, yeah, you can. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:48 You can follow Daniel on Twitter at DOB underscore Inc. You can follow me at Soren underscore LTD. You can follow Quick Question at QQ underscore Soren and Dan. You can follow us on Patreon and get some additional content where Dan and I answer questions from you, the listeners, at Patreon slash Quick Question. And there's also another person that exists in this podcast who's our producer, our sound engineer, and our editor. Don't bother finding him.
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