Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - QQ ep 3 - Quick Question with Soren and Daniel

Episode Date: June 12, 2019

Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Quick Question, the podcast. The podcast where two best friends separated by 3,000 miles get together to ask each other questions to get answers about pop culture, etiquette, relationships, matters of the heart, and generally navigate the grand mystery we call life. Boom! That is what happens when you write out the intro in advance. I am Daniel O'Brien. I'm one of the hosts of this show, Quick Question, and you listeners, you are our big, beautiful, quicker queeters. These are good.

Honestly, I think we're getting closer. This feels like we're zeroing in. We're circling it. We're definitely circling it. The voice you hear that is not mine is Soren Bui. You want to say hi, Soren? Yeah. Hi, this is Soren Bui.

I also want to acknowledge that, Dan, in that that thing you wrote out you called me your best friend and if you remember back first episode I revealed that you were mine you were unwilling to say that that I was yours in fact in fact I think you said some city was yours uh uh number one was the fans number two was the city of Los Angeles the city of Los Angeles that's right and then i was worried in the previous episode that maybe deep sea fishing had become your best friend in my absence uh i'm really pleased to hear you say that you can't be friends with a lifestyle soren okay i don't know how these things work who's that giggling in the background there okay so yeah if you the other the little chuckle monster you're gonna hear

occasionally then he will also chime in that's uh bacon our cfo and actually really good friend not best friend though which has been hurtful every time too much fun soren what's going on with you oh Oh man. Uh, not much. Um, I'm enjoying my, my hiatus now, uh, at work we are on where we finished our season. And so, you know, I'm actually going in more often than I thought I would to go do things at the office. But for the most part, it's just like, I wake up in the morning and I dropped my son off at daycare. And then I'm like, boy, what do I want to do today? You know, speaking of your work, I saw you got some cool news per your Twitter, I believe.

Yeah. You want to talk about that? Yeah. So July 29th is my first episode. It will be airing on TBS. Yeah. airing on tbs yeah i saw you you posted a a screen grab with a uh a still of a show that was professionally drawn by real people who do this for a living and it said written by soren buoy you're the only name on the screen it's crazy that's so it's written by yeah thank

you yeah it's really exciting and not only that it's like the people who are in it are really great too of course you know like seth mcfarFarlane and Wendy Schaal and everyone who's originally on the show, Scott Grimes. But then also Ken Marino's in it. And Kathy Najimy's in it. I love her. It's incredible. And you got to work with, correct me if I'm wrong about this, you got to work with Roger the Alien? Yes, yes.

Roger came into studio. he did his voice um yeah honestly not not a super welcoming guy uh a little weird and doesn't really like people who are you know had just heterosexual they're just not his favorites. Okay. I mean, I'm not too mad about that, I guess. Yeah, it's very popular to be pansexual right now. So here's the thing I found out about me with our show, Hiatuses. So we have four weeks of the year, or four or five, I can't remember, where they're like pre-planned hiatuses that you just have a week where you're not coming in. And then we have the big break, uh, in between

seasons between, uh, November and January. And the first hiatus we had this year, I didn't have anything planned and have anything booked. And I learned very quickly that that's not good for me. I, I, I don't have a child to take to daycare. Um, so I just wake up in my apartment. It was just like, Oh, what am I going to do today? And then I sit quietly on the couch until it's nighttime and I get to go to sleep again. So after that first completely wasted week, I decided that every time I have a, uh, I need to have a trip plan. Like last week I went

to North Carolina and see my parents. We've got another one coming up in a few months that I'm going to try to get back to LA. We have a big one in August and and i'm gonna go to like an island somewhere like i need i need an assignment on vacation i need somewhere to be and a list of things to do uh because i because otherwise i'll just be worthless do you experience that at all no but for a very specific reason i have um i have a son and i have a wife who have expectations of me so like when my wife knows that i'm on this vacay on hiatus she'll be like oh good this is the perfect time for you to fix our whole backyard and and clean out our garage and figure out some sort of ordering system for that oh you could restain the deck like there are things where i know that need to be done around

the house and it's not just me who's be like, I'm not only accountable to myself. I'm accountable to these other people. And so it's like, all right, I'll find a way to fit that in. That was a big day. I'm tired. By the end of the day, when my wife comes home and I picked up my child, I'm like, can you just spend a little time with Ronan? Because I'm really feeling it today. I barely went back to sleep after I dropped him off at school.

I got maybe another two hours and that was it. And I had to watch all of Chernobyl. That's still pretty productive. I've had hiatus days where I wake up and it was raining and I was like, well, this day's busted. But I, I definitely feel that sense of like whatever, whatever amount of work I have, it always feels like too much.

There will never be so little, an amount of work that my mind will be like, yeah, that seems, that seems perfectly surmountable. I've, I've felt that way with every work assignment that i've gotten at this job when i'm i'm outlining or writing a script i will always talk to the

other writer in advance and there have been plenty of times where i'm like this feels pretty straightforward feels like it'll be kind of fun and easy just uh no no real surprises nothing difficult to navigate it's it's a then b, then C, then D, then E. And then smash cut to it's six o'clock in the morning, the day that it's due, and I'm up. Working right until the last second, just because I will always find ways to use the maximum amount of time given to me to complete a writing assignment, which has always been true.

That's true. I think that's true probably of all writers that there is no finished product. There's just like whenever you decide to give up on it. And so you can't, there's never been a project that I finished that wasn't right up against the deadline that I finished like two days early. And I was just like, that's it. It's done. You will work on it and you will work on it. You will tinker and work on it. And sometimes you're making it worse, but like you can't help yourself so that's i totally get why procrastinators procrastinate you already know you're going to be working up until the deadline anyway why not just give yourself that time that two or three days at the beginning where you're not

actually working on it and then stress and cry about it for the last few days. Which is weird because I was not that way in college with assignments. Were you? I'm trying to remember back. God, it was so long ago. Yes, I was. In fact, I can remember being in my dorm at midnight and being like, okay, I should really buckle down

and start on this paper that's due tomorrow. And then somebody coming into my room and being like, we're watching Fists of Legend in the other room, or we're going to play Mario Kart. And I was like, okay, well, I'll do that for two hours. Two o'clock feels like a good time to start this paper. Yeah, I think I had a work ethic in college that I'm very jealous of now, where I would just like get an assignment in class and then that day go home and do it. You know, obviously not if there's like a longer paper where you have a couple weeks to work on it, then I'm going to, I'm going to use those, those couple of weeks, but still was never like, never stressing, never running up against a deadline. Just like, Oh,

I got my assignment. Uh, and I live here in school town. And if I finish my assignment now, then I can have dinner and see friends. Like I, like I, it was important to me to sort of have that balance of like, I can't go out if I'm thinking about an assignment. So just do the assignment and then you can enjoy your life. That makes sense.

I would, that was a thing, the thing that they did in college that I don't do now was that I wanted to do it all at once. If I started on something, I was like, I'm going to get through it. I'll do the whole thing right now. Even if it took six hours or seven hours or eight hours or whatever it was on a paper, then, then I felt like, okay, I don't want to just leave this and have to come back to it. So I would do it all at once. And that's not something I do now. If I'm writing a script, then I'm, i have to allocate a certain amount of time each day that i'm allowed to work on it

and then i go do other family things or whatever other errands i have to do and then i come back to it over and over again so it's much easier to kind of be like okay before i start what amount of time do i need to get this done by a deadline each day and then i just fill those times and that's it i think also in college like i never had an iq that was gonna move mountains or break any banks or anything but i still always wanted to do well and have a good job so uh my college mindset was very much like well i'm gonna be the guy who studies and and and does the work early and doesn't stress on finals because there are people who are naturally smarter than me and uh the work early and doesn't stress on finals

because there are people who are naturally smarter than me. And the only way to compete with them is to wake up earlier and get done sooner. Yeah. Well, that's where we differ. That's where we differ because I... I don't know if you heard in the last episode, Dan, but I'm too dumb for crosswords.

So this is a podcast called Quick Question where we ask each other questions about the world and life. And I just want to add a quick question for you. Yeah, shoot. Is there something I'm missing with this whole Keanu Reeves business? You're going to have to be more specific.

I don't think I will. If you're talking about how the Keanu Reeves scene from Knock Knock has shown up on all the Pornhub and YouPorn channels, then no, I think it's a pretty sexy scene. So for context for everyone, this is a broader question about feeling like you've missed something in culture. Not like culture is leaving you behind

because you're getting older. This isn't a situation where it's like, man, everyone's really talking about this SoundCloud rapper, Lil Nas X, and I feel left behind. Does SoundCloud rap? Yeah, whatever the fuck. This is a thing where the internet has agreed on a

certain point of view and i'm not against it i don't have a strong feeling on like the anti-camp of whatever this point of view is i'm just not sold and i feel like i missed something crucial and that's the general the specific is keanuves. The internet loves Keanu Reeves so much. They're so excited about John Wick movies. You can, you can, Keanu Reeves will be trending on Twitter all the time for different reasons. He was trending today as we record this because he gave an interview somewhere where he said he is lonely and doesn't have anyone in his life, but he is open to finding someone and he would love them and respect them. A completely fine thing to say. Like a lot of what Keanu Reeves says and does and looks like, it's completely fine. But if he wasn't tweeting, wasn't trending

for this interview, he would have been trending because a week ago they released a trailer for a new Netflix rom-com, Be My Maybe, with Randall Park and Ali Wong, and he shows up at the end of the trailer, and the internet was like, oh fuck, it's Keanu Reeves, we love him, and if he wasn't trending for that, he could be trending because John Wick 3 is coming out right now, and the internet has decided we love the john wick movies i i haven't seen them because i i have like ideological problems with guns and those movies seem as as as much joy as people get out of them it seems like a very grand celebration of guns that i i feel like this is one that doesn't need my money for all the stupid things i spend my money on i don't need to be party to this uh uh, well-meaning gun parade. Um,

and if he wasn't trending for that, he would have been trending for something else. Uh, I remember sometime in the last 12 months, he and, uh, Alex Winter did a video where they announced we're doing it. We're making another Bill and Ted movie, and everyone was so fucking stoked on the internet, and at every single stage of this, I've, I've felt like I was missing a very crucial part of this puzzle that makes it make sense, because in my mind, Keanu Reeves seems like a very nice person. Every interview he gives is nice and perfectly pleasant. I think he's kind of boring on late night shows, but he seems like very clearly a nice person. I know that he gets grief and sadness points because he lost his wife and his

daughter in a very close amount of time. And that's tragic. And I feel terrible for him. And I understand how that will give someone a lot of credit and, and sweetness points. I think he's handsome. Like he's not, he's not a stop traffic hot to me kind of thing. He's not like I feel like I've seen the

when I saw Magic Mike 2. But let's say a bus was going 60 miles an hour. Would that stop for him, do you think? When I saw Magic Mike 2, that was a movie populated by hunks that I'm just like, this is this movie theater is getting warmer and I understand.

Keanu Reeves to me is not like oh my god look he's so beautiful uh i also think he's a not good actor yeah uh i think that's that's sort of his lane is just like doing some kind of variation on kiana reeves i mean the reason he's he's in the matrix and will smith isn't is because you needed the lead in that movie to not get in the way of the special effects of the philosophy and he is perfectly suited for that so i think at the end of the day he is a uh perhaps nicer than average celebrity mildly handsome not a good actor doesn't work all the time but the internet is fucking nuts about him and i don't understand it when when everyone lost their shit because they're making a bill and ted three i was like did we really want this like i i liked those movies too

but do we want to see i don't know 48 year old k Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter taking a break from the car wash or whatever to... Cell phone kiosk at the mall. And now they're going to be like Southern California dummies. I think it's the same thing when they made Clerks 2. It's like, oh no, it's not interesting when these guys are older now it's it's now it's sad that they're doing these jobs so if it's keanu and and it's bill and ted and their childless 40 year olds trying to make their fucking band work and time travel it's like no this is this is sad i don't want to i don't want to see this like the let's just let the two

movies exist as as as perfect little movies and not revisit this. As a small tangent, it does feel like they're probably the end of Bill and Ted's bogus journey. They might now be reaching the age that they are when they travel from the future there, where they look like ZZ Top basically and play God, Gag, Rock and Roll to you. I wonder if that will be involved in any capacity. Not to sidetrack you, Daniel. I see what you're saying. I agree with you. I agree if that will be involved in any capacity. Not to sidetrack you, Daniel. I see what you're saying. I agree with you. I agree with you on almost every single point. I think he is just like quintessentially milquetoast in a lot of ways. There are little these little sparks that I think there's two things I think happening here. One is that when you have somebody

who's as milquetoast as you can imagine when they rise above that that's it feels spectacular it feels like they're it's this unpredictable thing that happens where it's like oh what a nice surprise like he used to take his mom to every award show and it was like the joke would have been why is keanu reeves going to award shows but then you find out he also brings his mom and you're like oh that's really's really nice. That's really sweet. What a great guy. And so when they rise above that, we really like it. But also I think that part of the appeal is that he is so benign in every single way,

but also seems to know it. We love people who are aware of their status, like pinpoint aware of their status. Bill Murray is a really good example, somebody who knows exactly how famous he is, and that's where all those stories, the myth of Bill Murray come from. I think Keanu Reeves is the same way,

where he's not, it doesn't ever look like he's too big for his britches. Every single interview, it's clear. He knows that he's not the best actor in the world. He knows that he's not right for certain parts. And he knows that he's like a vehicle for whatever philosophy and action you want to put in a movie. He's just not going to get in the way. He's a quarterback who's really good at game managing and knows it. And we're like, yes, you get it.

You get it. You get it that that's your job. And he's not trying to rise above that. And I think people really, really respond to that. Guess. That doesn't feel right to you. It feels like if that's how low the bar is, there should be more Keanu Reeves type people i guess well yeah i think

they they end up milkshake ducking themselves a lot uh they jennifer lawrence was somebody everyone was like yeah she's not she doesn't act like a famous person she's somebody who's just lucked into this or she ran into a point i shouldn't say luck because she's very talented but like she just ran into this she's she's still in all of her interviews and everything she swears or she talks about body secretions and things like that and then there were a couple instances where you could almost you could like see ego peek through and everyone just turned on her immediately yeah i guess i mean i'm looking at kanu Reeves' IMDb page. Were we fucking nutting our dreams, nutting our genes for knock-knock and anyone can quantum?

It's funny you say nutting your genes for knock-knock because there's a sex scene in that movie. Is there really? Yeah. I mean, I wasn't kidding when I say that it's on every single like porn site out there, this, that movie has suddenly shown up on all of those because of knock, knock. Yeah. Like I, were you, was this a 2008, I guess? Yeah. You weren't, you weren't officially cracked yet, right?

You were, you were just 90% of it. Yeah. We went to go see whatever skeleton staff of Cracked existed at the time, got a bunch of margaritas, and then went to go see The Day the Earth Stood Still. Movie sucked. Keanu was in it. Wasn't good in it.

I wouldn't say he's good in anything. Where were all these Keanu fans then when it mattered? You know, maybe also some of it is that it's this intersection of people where they would ordinarily be divided on things, finally finding some common ground, which always feels really nice. That he's really good with guns, it turns out. But he's really good with guns, it turns out. Every movie that he does, he gets very serious about it, even though he knows that his job is just to be your access point to the movie. So he got really good at martial arts for The Matrix. He'd get up early in the morning.

There are all these stories about him training so hard with guns. There's that viral video of him on a gun range, just running around with 15 guns and shooting targets dead on uh he works really hard and i think that's something else that people really appreciate about him i guess my my pitch would be um for all the the people who are just loudly hornily celebrating keanu reeves on the internet uh Uh, Brendan Fraser is the Keanu Reeves that actually needs this kind of love. Brendan Fraser is also kind of a bad actor and also seems pretty dumb, but also seems very nice. Just a sweet man. And, uh, he just doesn't get any of the the kindness that keanu gets and i think that's unfair he's he's he's maybe not as handsome as keanu but like i don't know look at that george the jungle movie he's

he's a he's beautiful in that you can just keep that in your brain when you when he's a great action hero and very funny in the mummy yeah and and and uh i just don't think we give him the credit that he deserves and we're just gonna if we're just gonna give it away to blandly handsome action stars kick some of that to brendan frazier he's a guy who met a horse on a movie and was like i love this horse so much i'm gonna take it home and save it and just like save this horse and i was like does archery in his backyard and and hangs out with horses because he's sad and sweet and his eyes are big come on i like that you're on your soapbox telling the world that keanu reeves isn't so great and in the next breath saying but brendan fraser now there's a dreamboat. Alright.

That's a fair assessment. I don't know that we solved it. I gave you my hypothesis but it doesn't feel right to you. I'm certain I'll get dragged on the internet because I'm supposed to love Keanu Reeves but I mean, you know. The point is I don't. I mean, I'm clear on that.

You can't do anything about it, Internet. Dan, quick question. If I were to ask you what track on the album you are, what would you say? Like, do you have any sense of what that means i mean the first thing i would say is uh congratulations for being 103 years old where we're still talking about tracks on cds and how much that matters iggy azalea man just promoted her album by leaking a nude picture of herself this the days of tracks are dead fucking maniac i yeah okay maybe i'm dating myself with this i also was picturing it as a record too but uh but i i the other day i can't remember where i was i

wasn't like a jimmy johns or something i'll get dragged for going to jimmy johns uh but i heard a guy talking about a woman in his office and he raided her and i was like i thought we were past this he called her and he's like yeah yeah man when she's when she's not in her work clothes like she's an eight or a nine and i was like what what are we doing we can't just rape people like this anymore and then i thought wait there might be a way better way that we can rate each other and rate ourselves that feels less disgusting. And I would say that it encompasses more of who you are, and it's like what track you'd be on an album. I need to pause this briefly.

You thought the Jimmy Johns part is what was going to get you dragged, not the let's come up with a better way to rate women at work? Not rate women. You're not listening to me i want a better a better yeah like a way that we can like i'm i don't know there's no good way for me to say this oh a way that we can that everyone can rate each other and ourselves that feels a little bit better and that encompasses more than just your physical appearance that encompass like,

that feels like there was for a long time of formula among bands that was like, you know, exact when I say like the first track on an album, you're like, okay, that would be your axis. That's like the one that like,

if you don't, if you have somebody who's not necessarily a fan, they'll listen to it for the first time. This is the one that's going to hook them. The one that's going to get radio play is like number three or four. Like they had a formula for so long of how how an album worked it's like snl sketches too they all follow kind of that same pattern uh of oh and and you or let's do it that way then like what snl sketch no we'll do we'll do albums

okay what yeah like what track do you think you are on an album and why? I would probably say, and it's going to sound self-deprecating, but it's also going to be honest. Five, sort of buried in the middle there. That's not a bad spot. No, it is. In the album I'm looking at, it is. Are you looking at Batman Forever, the soundtrack? I'm looking at Whatever whatever and ever amen by ben folds five which is one of my favorite albums and uh the first album i bought with my own money

um starts out real hard real good as soon as you put the the cd in you got one angry dwarf and 200 solemn faces which is a song that just fucking goes. And even if you don't like the band, you can just feel like there's a driving beat to it, and it's exciting. Then they slow things down a little bit with Fair, which is just like, we're showing off. We have really great harmonies, and we're gonna, yeah, we can fuck your shit up

with One Angry Dwarf in track one, but also we can be, you know, you could bring us home to mom with track two. We're sweeties too. And we're like, we back up our weird piano punk vibe with some real musical chops. Three, Brick. That's their single.

It's my least favorite song, but like objectively the most important ben folds five song four song for the dumped just a palate cleanser we're gonna get right out of brick and we're gonna do this big loud fucking angry anthem song and then five is selfless cold and composed it's just uh you know not a hit not not uh not one of the exciting ones no it's it's i like it but you know i like george harrison too and who gives a shit it's just a a fine song that does his job and uh you know gets us from the cool song that is song for the dumped to the next cool song that is Song for the Dumped to the next cool song that is Kate. You need something in between there to

give people a chance to go to the bathroom. Wow. When I asked this question, I really did not anticipate that you'd say I'm filler. Yeah, no, that's me. I'm just like, oh, we needed something to get us to 12.

We gotta round this out. It's none of our favorites, but they're gearing up for seven. Trust me, the album really picks up in the back half. Do you have an answer for this? I thought of after I created this new system we're all going to start using uh where i stand and i think that i'm probably i'm like a 11 or 12 i think now when i say that i mean it's it's a thing those are like the songs that they're thrown on the on the end that they're like i mean who knows there might be some people that really like this thing

and i it's one of those ones where it's never my favorite song when i first listened to a band but then after i listened to them for long enough or that car that cd say stays stuck in my 96 camry because the cd player won't work and i finally get bored of those first seven songs i start skipping around and trying to find something new i'll find one of those songs and be like holy shit this is actually pretty good uh so i feel that way i mean that i like I could, I could really grow on you. Yeah. You know what I, I feel like when you first meet me,

you're like, I don't, that's not the type of guy I like. That's not the type of person I'm interested in being friends with. And then I can kind of like, I can win you over over a certain amount of time.

Yeah. You know, so I picked Five as like sort of a, a random pull out of my ass, pull out of the air thing, and it worked very well for Whatever and Ever I'm In by Ben Folds Five. But I just thought, what are some other albums that I like

that I can check out to see if this holds up? So I went to Abbey Road, one of the greatest albums ever made. Track five, Octopus's Garden. A song so bad that in college, I burned a CD of Abbey Road that have everything except that song. I was like, I don't want it to ruin the flow of my experience of this album. It sticks out. It's so bad.

Get it out of here. Someone should have told Ringo it doesn't belong here. Between Oh Darling and I Want You. Let's see. I'm looking at some other ones now because now i'm really curious uh here's the who who are you number five is music must change i don't even know that song nah nobody does oh this is fun yeah me quickly googling my favorite dave matthews band album you are a five uh please keep talking while while i vamp to find this track listing uh yeah so i think i think the way that it kind of rounds out in my mind is that number one is somebody who's, I would say, outgoing, very personable, and very fun to be around.

But maybe also not, they don't have a ton to offer beyond that. They're not great necessarily as a friend. When they're around, you love it. But they're not somebody you're counting on either. I feel like two is, I think you're absolutely right with Ben folds five. It's like, you're showing this other side. It's like somebody who is the exact opposite of that.

They're like, they lay down in the road for you, but they're not necessarily the most outgoing person. And sometimes it's really a struggle to even get them to come hang out. And then three is really where they bang. Like that's the, that's the person three or four, whatever is really where they bang like that's the that's the person three or four whatever's clean up yeah uh the that's that's that's like the best people that

we have in the world i don't can't even think of a three or four no uh i pulled it up pulled up my favorite dave matthews band album track number five typical. Even if you don't know that song, it feels right, doesn't it? It does. It really does. Typical situation in these typical times. Too many choices. Yeah. Anyway, yeah.

Bacon, what track do you think you are? I think I'm a two. Mostly, I think in a little different way i think that i have the opposite of you that people uh will like me less the more they get to know me holy shit um no i i think twos that come out hot and they come out strong i would it's like a someone that can do a lot of things decently well, but can't do anything really really great. I feel like that's a two. You're

pleasing to be around and it's nice, but you're not doing anything too fancy. Yeah, you know, I think that, I don't know, I feel like with two, that's the first glimpse you get for other artists, what you're actually technically capable of. Some of it's for the fans and some of it's for anybody else who might be listening who's also like, oh wait, these guys have chops.

They're going to show off a little bit of that in two. Yeah. I think also definitely there are people where two is their favorite song on the album. You will get a lot of that. I have great news for you. Me? Yeah. On Michael Jackson's Thriller, number five is Beat It. Okay. That's pretty good.

Shame Michael Jackson's canceled, but yeah. What's track five on Bill Cosby's stand-up album? It looks like just, well, all of them say Puddin' Pops. I don't understand. It's also Beat It. Let's see. But to be fair, every song on this is banging.

Yeah. This album is outstanding. Thriller? But yeah, Beat It. You're right there in the middle. You're right between Thriller and Billie Jean. That's pretty good. Yeah. I'll take that. This only goes to nine. I don't exist on this album. Did you finish the second half of the Finding Neverland documentary?

Yeah, what's the problem? I also listen to Barbra Streisand. We share a lot of the same opinions on things. All right, so I got a quick question for you. Yeah, go ahead. Thank you. all right so i got a quick question for you yeah go ahead thank um what's a piece of pop culture that was important to you in like teens and college years specifically that time uh that is humiliating to you now and i i it's a it's a it's a very specific thing that i'm getting at

because it's not like... We grew up with American Pie and South Park. And there are some South Park episodes that have not aged well. And American Pie certainly hasn't aged well. I watched American Pie recently in my apartment alone. And I gotta say, this is not a movie

that was made for a 33-year-old to watch it without an audience in 2019 that's they had very terrible jokes that uh and the movie leaves a lot of room for a large theater of people to laugh at them and that's just not happening that's i'm i'm not remembering like all the scenes from it they're playing in my mind and the one where they are they think it's such a cool fun idea to videotape a girl without her knowledge yeah as she's getting changed is really rough it's really rough and like even smaller but also

toxically awful things in that there's like a scene when uh uh chris klein Klein is in the locker room for the successful lacrosse team that they have going at this high school. And he's idly singing to himself because he's in the jazz choir. And that's clearly where his passions really lie. And Stifler sees him singing. He's like, come on, don't be gay. And then there's like three minutes where it's assumed that the audience is laughing at that that's rough like that's the beginning and end of that joke but that's not what i'm talking about i'm talking about things that uh you are not humiliated

because times changed but you're humiliated because you changed and i'll give you some time to think okay while i say mine which is 100 garden state which is a movie that came out at the exact right time for me i believe i was 17 or 18 living in new jersey and then this movie came out and it was my first like indie movie experience I suppose like we'd we'd grown up watching a thousand movies in my family but this was like oh this is this is like outside the mainstream this isn't for everybody and also it's it's about New Jersey and that's where I'm from and I like this guy from Scrubs very much and he wrote it and directed it and it was also I don't know if you knew this but at the time zach braff was one of like an early celebrity adopter for having a blog and a myspace where

he would interact with fans so there was an additional layer of connection to this where i felt like i'm linked with this guy because he reads comments on his fucking myspace blog or whatever and i watched the movie and and genuinely like left that theater i'm different now things are different it was like a part of it was like this movie is about me and other part of it was like i want to make movies like this when I grow up. I want to write and direct things about what it's like, fucking really like to just try to, to, to, to live and exist in this world and to fall in love with women that don't

exist. And this movie is perfect because I don't understand the graduate. And this one explains it to me. Wouldn't the graduate be great if the subtext was the text so we could all enjoy it that's what garden state is and i really appreciated it for it and i was like it's not even just that i loved this movie i i cringe now because of uh who it made me i was absolutely the guy in college who was like, woman, come back to my dorm room. I'm going to watch you watch this movie

to make sure you have the right reactions because it matters that you like this movie the correct way. And it's one of my least favorite things about myself. That's a really good, good one. Because I think I felt some very similar things from that movie. Watching it, I was like, yes, I have enough life experience that I could make something. Like it felt like such a true story to me. And I was like, yeah, and I've lived enough for something like that like it also i also felt i could direct i could write i could

do all these things and now i'm just like thinking back on it in my head and i'm watching natalie portman put those earphones on so zach praff can listen to new slang in a hospital or whatever and i'm like oh jesus yelling into an abyss yeah that yelling into an abyss is so it's so rough and also we were uh re-watching clips of it at work the other day just because someone at work had never seen it when we like oh you should you really need to watch uh zach braff's fucking trash god-awful speech at the end of the movie that in the wait by the fireplace when they're all wet no no this is at the airport where it's like 19 minutes longer than it needs to be and the whole speech is like i don't really know what i want to do but i just know i want to do it now and i want to do it with you i don't know where

this is going but i know we're gonna we're gonna go there together and uh uh here's here's several other variations of that that i'm gonna say and so we just watched this incredibly long scene and uh and this is a small but still sturdy and important complaint they kiss no chemistry i'm watching that as an adult and i'm like that's the driest kiss i've ever seen in my life excellent just do i have to go back and watch it mashing two mouth-shaped wood blocks against kiss I've ever seen in my life. Excellent. I have to go back and watch it now. Mashing two mouth-shaped wood blocks against each other. No one's enjoying it.

Wow. I guess... I'll give you two. One from college and one from my teen years. In college... Oh, I can't wait. It was already too late for this. So I was dumb not to know that this was humiliating. Even at the time I was really into a band called limp biscuit.

Oh, you know them. I do. I mean, I, I follow more of, um, Fred Durst as a director, but I suppose, yes, he used to be in a band. That's right. I did it all for the nookie. That was too mainstream for me. I like the band for their roots. They had a song called

Break Your Face, I think. Let me see if that's right. I still know all the lyrics to. It spoke to me on such a visceral level of not having a good day that i was enamored with this song and i can remember i don't remember when i tell you the story

everyone and fans too like you're on my team here like we're all together uh i had an improv teacher who took us out one night after improv class in his convertible Mustang. And we listened to that song blaring as we rode down Main Street of my town called Carbondale, which at the time had maybe 8,000 people in it, thinking this is it. Like, this is the life. Convertible Mercedes. Break your face. What do you mean this is it what that's that's the

like we're living it the peak of luxury that's your entourage yeah yes that's exactly this is the credits to the show that i'm in your turtle you're on your way to sign saigon to do one of the songs to close out queen Boulevard? Yes. Yes. Okay. So that's one from... Actually, I'm going to have to look up the album too because now I'm curious what tracks are with... Oh, shit. But before I do that,

I'll tell you my high school one as well. This is not something I've ever told anybody either. So Marvel Comics. I was not really into them, but I was very into the characters of Marvel. And the reason was, is that I really liked the toys. And not just because I was like, I'm a collector. I played with toys. I played with action figures. I was like a freshman, sophomore, even a junior in high school.

I played with action figures. I was like a freshman, sophomore, even a junior in high school. And I did it embarrassed in my basement where no one could see. And my parents came down. Like it would be more humiliating than being caught masturbating. Like I didn't know. I didn't have a solution. I couldn't have big adventures all over the room because I'd have to scatter the toys too far for that. I could have these little finite storylines, and then I'd have to put them away very quickly if I heard someone coming down the steps of the basement or the basement door open.

That noise still horrifies me. Can I ask you a quick question? Yeah. When you play with action figures figures how do you play with them what does that look like okay and and x-men were my favorite just because they they were so cool like deadpool i didn't know who that was but i had a deadpool because he looked so cool yeah answer the fucking question okay so i have good guys and bad guys uh it's not necessarily determined by what they actually are in the marvel universe uh there was one of the bad guys we'd be planning some sort of heist generally

or like they were planning to do something really nefarious and the good guys have to stop them and the good guy it always involves something tragic happening then the good guys have to work their way into the base of the bad guys and work their way through the base going through all the bad guys and uh and then winning occasionally if i was like really feeling a narrative then i could have good guys bad guys and then these kind of like neutral guys they were my favorites that it kind of worked with the good guys and in reality were just good guys but in my mind they also were kind of bad guys and i liked that um that's the this is deep so so like um we're deep in my in my vulnerability right now yeah like like

so careful what you say functionally you weren't you weren't a kid who's slamming characters together you are setting up you're making movies with making movies with the action figures, essentially. There's the scene where the bad guys are planning the heist. You do the voice and you stand them around each other and there's the scene where the good guys make their plan. Is that how it goes?

Yes, but there's also the action scenes. There is some smashing them against each other. My favorite characters are the ones who had the kind of articulation that they could lift a shoulder so that they could actually and had a fist so that they could actually like when you punch somebody it looked like they were really being punched yeah you could really you were really punching someone uh get the the articulation in the legs like i want to be able to have a knee bend so that when they're flying through the air that knee's bent and then it opens up and they kick. Kick the bad guys in the face.

Yeah. But they're, yeah. And then occasionally I would get like bored of the story and I would just start a new one. And I'd like to say that this is like, oh, this was just me practicing storytelling. It's not. I was just playing with toys.

Way too old to be playing with toys. Freshman, sophomore in high school. No, junior too. I'm pretty sure junior as well. Like, I think that... I think I had probably done some really adult things by the time I was still playing with toys. Let me just tell you really quickly uh just to recap on uh significant other which is the most famous of limp bizkit albums oh jesus where you stand you're a song called rearranged

no idea what that is okay and here's something really feels like. Feels like one of the skippable ones. Yes. Track 12 is called No Sex. That's very, very good. So it works. That's a pretty perfect system you've developed there, Soren. I think we should probably wrap this up soon. Unless you have any more questions for me? No, they can wait. Okay, yeah.

We could talk about them next time. I wanted to bring up a review that someone wrote for us that was very kind. It's a five-star review from ShadyLady1989. Writes, Soren and Dan are ever delightful to listen to.

I'm stoked about the future of this podcast. Loved the work these two did for Cracked and so happy their respective careers have taken off since then. I'll be a loyal listener until the last episode. I kind of like that. That's very sweet. I mean, like, bold guess that the show is ever going to end. I think we're going to keep doing this

until the fucking sun explodes. That's the hope. In the meantime i need to to close this out by tracking down our social accounts but while i'm doing that soren you told me to remind you you had something you wanted to say to just the anti-vaxxers who listen to this podcast soren yeah uh okay listen anti-vaxxers i know you think you're on the right side of history and that what you're doing is the right thing. And you're absolutely right on.

This is exactly the problem with society right now. You and these people are putting mercury and formaldehyde into their bodies. You have any idea what that can do to a body? It's disgusting. You guys don't change a thing. You're perfect. You can hear more from Soren on Twitter at Soren underscore LTD. Or hear more from me for Counterpoint at DOB underscore INC.

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and it's stupid. Okay, hold on. I'm going to interject from the business perspective. You should definitely subscribe to the podcast and it's not that stupid. Dan, I have a quick amendment to make.

The song is not called Break Your Face. The song is called Break Stuff. If anybody wants to go listen to some Limp Bizkit right now. Okay. Bet they don't. But I bet they also don't want to listen to Whatever and Everyman or Under the Table and Dreamin'. But if the diehard fans, if there are any out there,

you ever find yourself... Oh, man, the quicker-queeters? The quick-queeters. If you ever find yourself in a Target, in the toy aisle, I mean, take a look at those Marvel characters. They're amazing. So cool.

And they've come a long way. The technology is outstanding. The technology of plastic is certainly outstanding here in 2019. The articulation, Dan. Okay. All right. That's all I'm going to say.

Okay. Bye.