Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - QQ ep 32 - Fun with Face Masks!

Episode Date: March 15, 2020

In this episode the guys talk about skin care routines and best practices around blowing your nose! Also big thanks to Postmates.  Use code qq and get $100 of free delivery credit....

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Starting point is 00:01:05 by my co-host soren buoy soren say hello hey i'm bringing the edge not so gentle anymore is it god franny so fucking loud in my ears oh i just took a stab at the person's name is it franny no it wasn't franny okay um i don't know what it was but i can conclusively say that it wasn't franny because we don't make that kind of name anymore i just don't i don't i don't know gentle felt a little insulting really yeah but i think it's that's a holdout from when i was young and um girls didn't want to date me in high school because i looked like a child. I liked it so much.
Starting point is 00:01:47 It was, I did the daily zeitgeist live show at the bell house in Brooklyn and, uh, met some folks afterwards. And one of them just like purely just said, you guys are, are, are so gentle on your podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And, and, and I liked that. I, I, I, I think the opposite end of that extreme is terrifying. Like I would hate for someone to be like, you're so aggressive that I am afraid to listen to your podcast with the lights off. I don't want that at all. Maybe if they said like hard boiled, I'm going to aim for that from now on.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I'm going to aim for that from now on there's a couple of things that I thought you could pull out of my intro one of them was the gentle thing you skipped over we got so I guess that's just a burn batch I guess we're not there is a big one that I noticed and I didn't say anything oh yeah you dropped the so
Starting point is 00:02:38 I did yeah because it's it's weird to start with that I understand the legacy that it has in the show but it's still very weird to start with that. I understand the legacy that it has in the show, but it's still very weird to start with. So hello. Yeah. Well, it's nice to acknowledge that a bit wasn't working.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yeah. And that'll be the one time it happens. Thanks to Postmates for supporting Quick Question. When you need red wine at 4 p.m., sushi at 9 p.m., a breakfast burrito at 8 a.m., and ibuprofen at 10 a.m. Postmate it. For a limited time, Postmates is giving you $100 of free delivery credit for your first seven days. Download the Postmates app and use code QQ. We are Quick Question, and you, our listeners, prefer to be called the Cute Cuties.
Starting point is 00:03:20 That's it. There's no bit. It's just like that is a reasonable name for you guys to be called. Honestly, I think that's a good one. Yeah. I know. It's going to be so sad when that's the there's no bit just like that is a reasonable name for you guys i think that's a good one yeah i feel it's gonna be so sad when that's the one that sticks yeah wouldn't it be great if it did stick and i i didn't have to do this part anymore this couch fit anymore i'll tell you what next week i will come yeah with some in the chamber and you don't have to do it oh that's great yeah let's uh let's uh let's call it a month that you do the whole month the next four episodes okay i'm gonna come with assuming this show is weekly
Starting point is 00:03:52 that's a pretty bold assumption all right yeah i'm gonna all right i'll take over that job i'll take the helm on that that couch bit will be mine from now on uh we'll get into the show we're gonna ask each other a bunch of questions and and give each other advice that hopefully will help you the audience as well but before that anything else you want to say soren there was a a tweet of mine recently that you said we're going to talk about did you want to do that yeah i would like to if you're up for it it's it's part of your life uh okay do you not remember what it what it was you like very explicitly i i tweeted about um letting someone upsell me at lasitan and you said publicly we're're going to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:04:45 That's true. I guess it would be a shame not to do it. All right, let me go remind myself here exactly what I said. So you got upsold. You got upsold by somebody who probably works on commission at a store, a very fancy store. Yeah. And you didn't just get upsold because for like the normal reasons that
Starting point is 00:05:07 i would assume you would get upsold you got sold upsold for a entirely unique but not at all surprisingly dan reason which was you felt like the sales clerk needed a win well to begin with she had she just flown in from Virginia that day. She was clearly tired and a little bit, not jet lagged because there's no time change, but she was exhausted and you fly in and then you have to go to work. That seems like it's got to be weighing on the mind in some way. She kept dropping words. She didn't really know how to answer a lot of questions really well and just
Starting point is 00:05:45 seemed like um she could use a win a pick me up i i also went she was dropping words yeah yeah was she having a stroke uh possibly i also went in there like not knowing exactly what i needed like i went in there wanting to be sold to, I think, because I'd been stressed recently. And I was like, I want... It's La Citan. It's like a bath and body fancy shit place. And I was like, I don't know what any of the words in this store mean. I don't even know the name of the store.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I can't even pronounce the name of the store. I'm probably doing it wrong. What's a candle go for there? That'll be my litmus test. I don't know. I didn't even pronounce the name of the store. I'm probably doing it wrong. What does a candle go for there? That will be my litmus test. I don't know. I didn't get candles. I got a $30 bubble bath tube. What the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Which was discounted from the $39 bubble bath tube, which was a nice little treat for me that my saleswoman gave me. Can I tell you what I think that is? Yeah, sure. It's a tube that you place just under the surface of the water you have the other end in your mouth and you're blowing your own bubbles in the tub it's not that it's like a like a lavender scented thing that goes in the tub but it's a bomb yeah no not a bubble bath like like liquid bubble bath what fucking planet are you from well the tube is throwing me it's stored in a tube
Starting point is 00:07:07 okay is it like the size of like a wrapping paper tube no what do you what do you store bubble bath liquid in well it's been a long time i don't remember maybe a rabbit like a little plastic rabbit of some sort anyway i got an adult tube of bubble bath liquid and because i walked in there i was like i'm i'm stressed and i'm tired and i want to uh treat my my skin and i want to like do a bunch of things that are relaxing what do you have that is relaxing and uh i what i wanted was a ten dollar face mask one of those face masks have you done one of those oh the black ones that you peel off and all your pores come off with it no it's just one it's like a mask that you wear that makes you look spooky and then uh it hydrates your skin okay colleen's
Starting point is 00:07:57 worn those you pull it off yeah it's very pleasant and that's what i wanted and uh it was just ten dollars to get that and she clearly she wanted more from me so then we got the the bubble bath tube and then she also when did virginia come up because because she kept dropping words she kept like getting confused with things and she said i'm so sorry i just flew in for virginia i was visiting my family and I'm, I'm still like, not, I'm not totally here. And I was like, I get it. None of us are. Cause I, I'm an empathetic person. And, uh, then when she, cause here's the good thing about her as a salesperson is when I'm
Starting point is 00:08:38 like, I want to, I want to mask instead of just giving me one. She says, why? And I was like, ah, right because because my skin is dry because it's winter and i also i want to relax she's like okay well here is a mask but also if your thing is skin dryness you really need this expensive jar of goop that i'm going to just like put in your hand and tell you that it's important to you i was like okay and then also here's this bubble bath that is okay and And I got, um, I ended up getting two masks and the goop and the bubble bath. And, uh, then she dangled in
Starting point is 00:09:13 front of me, like, you know, if you just off the top of my head, if you signed up for our like mailing list thing, you would get a free gift today. It's this free gift of a bunch of other potions you didn't ask for and don't want and won't use. But if you sign up, you could get them, and it would be great. So I joined the Lassitan mailing list, I guess. Now I get emails from Lassitan. Because she seemed tired.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I don't know. Hold on. First of all, I think you and I have talked about how bath bombs and things like that are bullshit. That they don't relax you at all. They don't. So you're still chasing that dragon, though. You're still trying to find that one commodity that will make you feel at peace. Yeah, I just want to buy a non-drug that is relaxing.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Okay. And the mask, you've tried them in the mask you actually like i don't think it does anything but i i i like the fact that i do it does that count yeah well so the um there's a thing there's a product in the the first place i can think of in pop culture where people will be familiar with it is the circle which is that show on netflix where it's a it's a i don't know it's charcoal glue or something like that and it's a, it's a, I don't know, it's charcoal glue or something like that. And it's a black, it goes on very thin on your face.
Starting point is 00:10:28 And then when people peel it off, it looks like they're ripping spirit gum off their face, but it also looks very cathartic and nice. And I am very enticed by something like that. Is it a mask or is it like a lotion that becomes peelable? Yeah. I think it's a charcoal spread. That's very exciting
Starting point is 00:10:45 yeah that then pulls everything out of your face all the toxins in your body come ripping out of your face yeah which i i want that so bad in my life i do too it's also worth pointing out that the the bubble bath which while smelling nice certainly appears to be staining my bathtub. Can you write them a strongly worded letter now that you're part of the email group? No, I'll just buy more fucking tubes of soap when I run out. I'm gonna use it again. And now I have a discount
Starting point is 00:11:24 because I'm a member of the team have you talked to her since no okay that feels like the type of person that eventually you end up becoming friends with and then you cook her huevos rancheros no i'm absolutely i'm gonna help her move at some point there's no way around that well she tells you what an awful friend you are she locked herself out of her place she tells you what an awful friend you are because she locked herself out of her place she tells you what an awful friend you are while you make her chiquiles i already know where this relationship's going um well that was nice of you dan i'm glad that you gave that woman that win i think that she probably walked away from the situation being
Starting point is 00:12:00 like what a sucker yeah i i didn't come from virginia today i came from south carolina what an idiot i think if you uh look like me and you wander into a lasatone alone on a tuesday afternoon it's just it's just mark city someone's like oh my god there's so much fucking blood in the water i'm gonna i'm gonna eat for a week on this dumb mark and she did oh but i really hope that that was a sales tactic for her to leave entire words out of her sales pitch yeah what a bold new strategy i mean, it works on at least one dummy. Take heed, salesman. I assume she needs all that money more than you. And obviously you need the products. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:15:48 Dan, I have a question for you. Okay. Is it, could you like, Yeah. Do you feel like, a speed to the question? Are you,
Starting point is 00:15:58 are you willing to start the show right now? Yeah, sure. Okay, quick question. There we go. What's a thing in your life that you never learned how to do and now you're so old that it seems crazy that you don't know how to do it i can i this is a hard one so i can go first if you want yeah because i'm thinking of something but i don't know if it qualifies as like learning it could be anything okay i think anything that you that a lot of people just
Starting point is 00:16:26 have they they learned at some point in your life and at some point and when you were young you were just like well this will just never be a thing that i get and you never tried at it again and then now you're an adult and you don't know how to do it or or okay do you want to go first because i because mine might be embarrassing so oh i don't want to hear it you have it already i i do okay yeah um i don't i don't know for sure i don't know if anyone learns how to blow their nose like i don't know i don't know when that would have been taught or if it's a thing that we all know i i was not born knowing how to blow my nose and no one ever taught me how to do it and uh i am as of this taping 34 years old and have blown
Starting point is 00:17:15 my nose technically legally maybe six times in my entire life god oh my god it's just a thing that i i don't know how to do and i uh this is this is true i remember being in grade school and like sometimes kids would would get up from their desk and walk to the teacher's desk and grab a tissue from the tissue box and they would blow their nose and they would throw the tissue into the garbage and they would go and sit back to the desk it was like one of the few opportunities where you were allowed to leave your desk and do a thing. You could go to the bathroom, you could sharpen your pencil, you could blow your nose, and I knew how to go to the bathroom, and I was great at it, and I could sharpen my pencil. I never knew how to blow my nose, but I would, I remembered noticing kids doing it, and being like, that seems normal,
Starting point is 00:18:02 everyone else is doing it, and no one's freaking out. So I, in, uh, my ongoing effort to seem normal, I, in elementary school would, would walk up to the teacher's desk, get a tissue, hold it up to my nose and imitate the way that I'd seen other people do it. And then I would just, uh, make the noise that it sounded like they made blowing their nose with my mouth and then throw the tissue. I would just do an impression. I would take a tissue and be like, and then throw the tissue in the garbage so I could walk back to my desk confidently being like, I'm just like you. Because it would take me a very long time to learn that I am not.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Is that too much oh my god dude what you're just a alien in a human suit that's so wild so like you've never had the sheer joy of being at the end of a cold like the last like the fourth day or fifth day of a cold and blowing half your brain out into a Kleenex and just feeling that fresh air that you haven't felt since you were a child. No, absolutely not. I don't even entirely understand the physics of it, I guess, like what I'm supposed to do, what I'm supposed to press. Okay. When did you learn from TV? This is a great question i know exactly when you learn because i taught my son how to do it and it's it's it is a real game changer
Starting point is 00:19:32 so i honestly i blame your parents um when kids are young they don't know how to do it you can tell when they get really stuffy with a cold that they're just miserable and they can't they don't know like how to get rid of this awful feeling in their nose and their sinuses. And a big thing is like getting them to shut their mouth, just blow as hard as they can out of their nose and you block one of their nostrils. So they blow out of just one nostril. You ask them to do that multiple times so they can clean that side out. And then you plug the other side and you have them blow out on that side and when a child figures that out it's a huge game changer because in the middle of the night when they wake up stuffy sometimes you can get them to just loosen
Starting point is 00:20:13 that stuff up and get it right out and that the way that i just described it did that seem completely crazy to you or not crazy but just but like i don't know i don't feel like i'm missing out by not doing it oh my god i i blow my nose probably five times a day and i'm not even well i guess i've been sick recently but even when i'm not sick i maybe i just have really overactive sinuses but the i i'm just chasing that that feeling again of of getting a really big nose blow. You realize you've had snot that has coiled all the way back into your throat, and you can feel it all come up at once. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I mean, that does sound very pleasant. I just feel like I get a stuffy nose and was like, well, this is reality. And then I live with it until it stops being there. And I don't do anything to improve my situation because I'm Irish. That's so on brand for you that you just suffer through. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Oh my God. Eventually it'll get better. And if it doesn't, that's okay too. I want to teach you. That's on my family crest. I want to get one of those little um squeegee uh those little suction balls so that i can just suck the snot out of your nose so you can see how good it feels like teal balls that are pointy for children yeah they're always teal you're right
Starting point is 00:21:37 um i can't believe you don't blow your nose i I blow my nose constantly. Yeah. I don't. And at this point, it seems irrational to learn. Right? It does seem a little late in the game. I just keep living my life the way that I do. No, I think you could do it. I have. It's not a real skill set. I wouldn't qualify as a skill set.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Do you know what's like fucking absurd and a tremendous insight into my life. I think I just heard it. No, but it continues. So you understand that nine-year-old Daniel was faking blowing his nose. Yeah. So he fit in with other children who were blowing their noses. I still, to this moment, will always have a box of tissues on my desk at work that I don't use.
Starting point is 00:22:29 But it was like, this is a thing that it seems like other people, like I've seen other people at work have them. I was like, it would be weird if I was the only one who didn't have tissues on my desk, even though I don't use them. Because I don't, I don't blow my nose and I refuse to sneeze in front of people. So I just like. Yeah, that's a whole nother element. I still need to have tissues on my desk because, because then I'll fit in with the other folks, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:53 The closest thing I can approximate your sneezes to is edging. I wish you wouldn't. The way that you try and hold a sneeze inside of you, I feel like it's just blowing apart your soul. Yeah. That's fair. I don't know. You let them alone.
Starting point is 00:23:13 You let them out when you're alone though, right? I let them out with them alone. And you know, what's fucked up is that a friend of the show and friend of both of ours, Caitlin large, she was staying with me for a week and, uh,
Starting point is 00:23:24 I sneezed in my apartment while she was getting ready for her day. And I just like openly sneezed and she laughed at me for minutes. Oh, you didn't need that. I didn't. It's like the only time I sneeze in front of a person. And she was like, there are so many stages to it. And it's like, yeah, when you wait a while and you build up to it, things are different.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I don't know. I want, I want, you know, I'm curious what your actual sneezes sound like. My, my sister-in-law has, it's, it's like pageantry. There's like a whole little buildup in the beginning and then the final event in a way that feels like it's an attention grabber but she's not she doesn't mean to do it it's just who she is she goes shh shh shh shh
Starting point is 00:24:15 achoo achoo achoo now that sounds like bullshit yeah she's got to do that shh shh shh at the beginning of it it's really strange um but I don't want to get too far field from the fact that you don't know how to blow your nose Yeah, she's got to do that at the beginning of it. It's really strange. But I don't want to get too far afield from the fact that you don't know how to blow your nose. No, yeah, it's fine. I do a normal sneeze and I blow my nose.
Starting point is 00:24:39 You wouldn't know that I didn't know how to blow my nose if you watched me pretend to blow my nose. I've gotten very good at faking it. Do you have allergies? I don't know probably you are just so dead set on living with misery i just don't want to know what your ailments are i don't want to bug anyone i don't want to go to a doctor and be like what's wrong with me because like that's gonna upset their day you know that's not they're gonna be so pumped to be useful uh i so i had i had allergies growing up i still have pretty bad allergies and maybe i'm trying to think like
Starting point is 00:25:10 maybe that's where i became an expert but i can i'll really really go to town like i will blow as hard as i can to try and just dislodge anything inside of me because the catharsis there's nothing like it yeah anyway that that dwarfs mine but i'll still tell you mine anyway um i but you're just gonna be like i don't know how to do a handstand crazy right so i don't know is it do you start on your head and then you just push up? I don't, I don't get it. Um, I, I'm, I'm really, really bad at, well, math in general, but, um, general subtraction. It to an embarrassing degree where I can't do it in my head. I can't do quick subtraction, especially with double digit numbers. Forget triple, but like double digit numbers. So if I'm at a bar and I'm playing 501 at the dartboard, I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I have to write it out in chalk and everyone can see me doing it. I have a very hard time with subtraction and I have a, I think that fractions are impossible. Were you ever good at it? No, never in my life have I been good at it. And it's one of those things where early on I was just like, well, this,
Starting point is 00:26:33 it doesn't make sense to me. I have a workaround. It just takes a little longer. Maybe I'll just never learn this. And so then I just never did. Yeah. And it can get really embarrassing when people are splitting up a bill or any time in your life where you need math,
Starting point is 00:26:51 just like the simplest math. And someone will be like, come on, Soren, you can do it. And I can't get there. Yeah. We,
Starting point is 00:26:57 Oh, it came up on the podcast. And I just sort of, Oh yeah. When you're trying to figure out how old 13 was. Yeah. And I just sort of... Oh, yeah, when you're trying to figure out how old 13 was. Yeah, when I couldn't figure out, based on how old my son is now, when he'll be 13.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And I wanted to, like, in my... I was sitting there, like, writing it out invisibly with my finger on the table, trying to figure it out. I can't do very, very simple math. And fractions are, I cook sometimes. And in cooking, when you have to do something, you have to either double it or have it based on how many people you're going to be serving. It's like, if I get to a point where it's like three eighths,
Starting point is 00:27:37 I just say, I can't make this meal. I could guess. Or I could maybe, if I can Google three-eighths of flour halved and see, and an answer magically appears. Hopefully someone did it. Someone somewhere in the world was able to crunch those impossible numbers and come up with some sort of theorem. It's really embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah. I'm also still not great at math, and it's come up on bills where I'm trying to be a big shot and I was like don't worry everyone I'll cover this and then I look at the bill and I want to put the tip in and there's like a group of us so it's expensive and all of my math tricks have failed me because I have a very specific like if you want to tip 20% just look at these two numbers and multiply it by by four that gives you your 20% or whatever the trick is. I don't even remember it right now.
Starting point is 00:28:28 But if there's a meal that's in the triple-digger... You're tipping an awful lot. Yeah. I just end up staring at the tip. And the people who I've just now told, don't worry, I got it. They're like, hey, you're spending an awful long time staring at that receipt. Are you sure you can cover it? I'm like, no, I definitely can.
Starting point is 00:28:45 It's just, you know, there's an eight and a six involved in the math. And that's tricky. Like no one knows what happens when those two numbers come together. I have started to, when I tip, I'm first of all,
Starting point is 00:28:56 the fact that tipping has gone up because you know, when we were kids, it was like, you were doing, you do 50%. That's nice. Yeah. Uh,
Starting point is 00:29:01 20% is pretty standard across the board. Now I think it might even raise out soon, but 20% is so much easier to figure out than 15 but even to this day i i get the bill i pull out my phone i open up the calculator and i just do the calculation there that's smart that that saves time for everyone it's not just like me sweating over a receipt being like no i got it everyone just just just like quiet and turn the music off please because i need to do need to do a lot of math to figure out a proper 20 tip for 50 the times that it brings me the most quiet shame though is i build furniture now i'm very excited about it i just built some bookshelves by the way congratulations and thank you and when i'm doing it i uh the the ruler and not the ruler the measuring tape has hashes on it based on how many uh fractions of an inch are in between each inch so like you there's like the 16ths the the eights, the quarters and like that. But because I'm so bad at fractions,
Starting point is 00:30:08 as I'm measuring stuff, I just say, okay, this one is three little hashes and four big hashes. It's like a dummy doing it. It's a six-year-old child trying to read a ruler. It's embarrassing. Or when people tell me, I say, what time is it? A six-year-old child trying to read a ruler. Yeah. It's embarrassing. Or when people tell me, I say, what time is it? And they say quarter past. I go, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Okay. Let's see. Well, of 100, that would be 75. No, 25. Okay. So of 60, I can't fucking do it. That's really interesting to me. I'm curious because you said you were never good at math. I can't, I can't fucking do it. That's really interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I'm curious because you said you were never good at math and I never was also. And it was a very difficult part of middle and high school. I mean, obviously the most difficult part was the bullying, but separate from that, it was like I was in advanced classes for every other subject. There was like the honors and eventually AP subjects for for for things the the you know, the top course things. And I was in all of them. And then just because of the way schedules work out was also thrust into the math version of those. just because of the way schedules work out was also thrust into the math version of those. But I was clearly not as good at math as I was at English or science or social studies.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Like, like my, my brain just never connected with it. So it was just like being really good throughout high school and everything. And then just constantly struggling in math and not having the vocabulary at the time to be like i don't think i'm supposed to be in honors algebra right now i think i'm i there's there's something wrong with my the shape my brain has taken but you can't really say that you just like you you just struggle and you don't know why because i wasn't trying less hard in math
Starting point is 00:32:04 than i was in english i just couldn't connect to it in a strange way i totally agree and it feels sort of like a moral failing when people are like oh you're bad at it well just fucking get good at it yeah you're like no no you don't understand i'm trying but it's a practical application of it i do not get so like it is it's it's its own language it's just you learn the rules of the language you learn the order of operations you learn what's allowed and what's not allowed when you're balancing an equation. And I get that in theory, but I cannot put it into practical use. Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I can't see it in my head. I just don't understand it. It's really frustrating and embarrassing all the time yeah and it's gonna be even worse when my son right and he's not too far away from learning the the levels of math that i will no longer be able to help him oh yeah and he's young interesting yeah he's gonna i can't i can't even imagine what it's gonna be like when he's's a freshman in high school and wants help on Trig. Freshman in high school. And what year do you think that will be?
Starting point is 00:33:11 Okay. I can do this. Because he's four right now, so that makes it easy. Yeah, sure does. 2030. Did I do it? Yeah, you did. You did.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yeah. The very easiest possible thing. All right. Soren, I got a quick question for you. Yeah, go thing. All right. So I got a quick question for you. Yeah, go ahead. All right. You're allowed to add one more immediately universally understood external communication device on a car. Right now we have, let's say, left signal, right signal, braking, hazards, honk as the sole agreed upon communication devices uh the addition
Starting point is 00:33:49 can't be too complex like you can't have a digital sign that you edit that yeah where you just like type in while you're driving may i please scooch in in front of you because my exit is approaching it has to be like a simple as simple as a turn signal or a honk yeah what would you what would you do before i tell you i just need to say that my mom when i was growing up really wanted a digital sign in her back window so that when people were tailgating her she could project uh the wording back off bucko she thought that that was like her dream back off bucko um i do have one i have one that's immediately i mean this doesn't matter because i don't drive
Starting point is 00:34:35 anymore but um just let your mom know that would not stop me and i would get even closer if someone's like back back off, bucko. I'm like, well, eat my fucking ass, whoever you are. Yeah, that's just like the words of someone not meant for this world. Oh, you don't know how bad I can be. I'm very charmed by my mom. So I do have one that's immediately obvious to me. Do you want me to go first?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Yeah. Okay. This is one that I saw today and it almost caused an accident. And I was like, oh, this is the thing I've wanted forever. I want some sort of protrusion from the front of my car for when you're turning against lanes of traffic. for when you're turning against lanes of traffic so that when the first lane stops and you can't see the cars in the other lane, it's just like this extendable piece that comes out
Starting point is 00:35:31 and is like, hey, car's trying to turn right here. Car's trying to turn. So that as the oncoming lanes also see that, they can also slow. Because otherwise you just, you turn, you either go for it, you slow down so that, and you waste everybody's time, you just either go for it you slow down so that uh and you waste everybody's time or you like go for it and there's a good chance there's another car coming 40 miles an hour down the other lane because it's clear right it's tough like if you're making a left
Starting point is 00:35:55 across traffic or if you're making a u-turn and there's like three lanes coming in that direction you can sometimes like definitely connect with one of those drivers eye contact where they're like, this person knows that I'm I'm making this turn right now and they're on board, but you can't necessarily connect with three at a time when you need to. And you either put yourself in a dangerous situation where you're just trying to sort of sprint through it. Or you go you do a half measure. and that ends up pissing off the person who was going to let you go and the person behind you yeah yeah i think i understand this problem yeah like an inspector gadget style glove that ratchets out and then waves like hey hey i even
Starting point is 00:36:40 i mean i employ that when i'm walking into the gym locker rooms because there's always there's like a kink always in the way that you get in so that no one is just looking in the locker rooms. And when I come around that corner, guaranteed, there's somebody who's making like a hard left, like they're, they're not going to use the rules of the road while they're walking around, which is you give a wide, you make a wide, if you're going to have to make a left turn, you do it widely. And so every time I walk past one of those, I just throw a hand out there in front to be like hey there's some fingers right there you can tell someone's coming and it works great it works great in my everyday
Starting point is 00:37:14 life i think we should have it on cars yeah they're the the hand in the gym thing is is is very smart i i remember it from not necessarily that but from working in restaurants a couple things that we did was behind you which is always very helpful if like yeah because you're they're a bunch of workers around you know waiters and bartenders and and and bus folks and you're bent over picking up a tray of of glasses and I'm behind you and I get to say behind you and that lets the person know not to stand up quickly and back into you. And we would also do, you would softly shout coming in if you were coming into the kitchen because the kitchens all have like double cowboy doors.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Yeah, the double doors. Like double cowboy doors. And they were all very helpful things that I would love to have incorporated into car stuff. But my immediate one, the one message I would like to communicate is if I had like an extra light or an alternate honk sound that we all universally agreed meant I'm sorry. Because that was something that. Oh I always felt like when I was making a mistake while driving, I was like, Oh no, Oh shit, that's my exit over there. So now I have to go across three lanes to get to my exit. And the people behind me are pissed off. And I just want them to know, like, I agree with you. want them to know like i agree with you i'm i i also think this was this was bad and i'm sorry like i'm i'm i'm not an asshole i'm just stupid and and like like we're on the same page i shouldn't be doing this that's what i want to communicate i feel like you'd saw sony road rage incidents i
Starting point is 00:38:58 know like because and i would also love to see it if someone in front of me was behaving erratically and then they put on the I'm sorry light. I was like, oh, he's probably on the phone talking to his mom. I get it. Yeah, he got distracted. That's fine. The amount of times that I've gone from 100 to zero where I've been enraged at somebody and then driven up because I just need to see their goddamn face.
Starting point is 00:39:20 And they give me that little wave like, I'm so sorry. I know. And I go right back down. I'm like, oh, man, I've been there it's okay it's fine that guy was actually pretty cool yeah um i god i would love to have and i'm sorry honk my car has a uh excuse me honk that's separate from its normal fuck you honk did you know that no yeah my car has two different honks mine's got the normal one where you just lay on it and then there's a little button on the um one of the um like the windshield wiper stick at the very end of it you just push this little button and my car chirps uh i think it's because it's it's a battery powered car and sometimes it sneaks up on pedestrians you give a little chirp and people
Starting point is 00:40:04 like oh there's a car there and i use it at lights all the time when people don't go on green arrows and things like that it's just this nice little courteous like hey hey i don't want to i'm not i'm not trying to be mean but you got to go that's so fascinating i think the the problem is that there's not mass communication about what that means because if i was driving you were behind me and i heard a chirp i wouldn't that wouldn't mean anything to me it's the same way that like uh i'm sure you don't know this for dogs there are a bunch of different uh messages conveyed depending on the color of the leash that you're riding your dog on. Really? Yeah. I don't know all of them, but I know that like.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Like what gang the dog is in? Yeah, there's Bloods and there's Crips, obviously. Nice. But the main one that first came to my attention is like, if you see a dog with an orange leash, that means they like people but not dogs. And they're not friendly with other dogs. And there's, let me pull it up now So I know, yeah, there's red caution.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I just want some space. Green is friendly. Light yellow is nervous. Give me some space. I'm nervous. Purple is do not feed. Blue is training service dog. Bright yellow is I'm looking for a new home. White is deaf or blind dog.
Starting point is 00:41:24 And these are all like it's it makes so much sense that they exist. is I'm looking for a new home. White is deaf or blind dog. And these are all like it's it makes so much sense that they exist. Everyone should know about them. But the problem is we don't communicate them at all. Even if we could communicate the one like orange means don't keep your dog around me. That would be so helpful. Because like my dog is good with dogs, but not all of them are. And you don't want to have to like ask the owner all the time.
Starting point is 00:41:54 If you could just have like a very clear, like, Oh, arms, that means I avoid that dog. That would be great. But I don't, we don't have a platform where we can just say these, the rules for dog leashes.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Right. I mean, I'm immediately thinking of children uh speak on that stuff like you could you could put a bandana in a child's pocket say and they're like hey i can be a little rough sometimes uh i can be a little rough with other kids or i have a really tough time sharing like you know which and you i think i'd be much more sympathetic to those kids when i'm at the park with my son my child sharing like you know which and you i think i'd be much more sympathetic to those kids when i'm at the park with my son my child who is you know perfect right uh he plays with kids sometimes at the park and he doesn't know the difference he doesn't know that they're being rude or obnoxious but i do and i want to be like hey let's get the fuck out of here this kid sucks
Starting point is 00:42:38 but uh if those kids already if it was clearly acknowledged by the parent i'd be like okay well we maybe we'll work on it with this kid yeah we'll work on sharing it would be great i feel like the the first time i learned about this was back in la when i was walking my dog jackson and someone with an orange leash had their dog and i let jackson go talk to them and the owner was immediately like he's got an orange leash he's not good with other dogs and i'm like well i didn't go to the same website that you went to so i don't know this i like this system but it's new to me that's a brilliant system i wish that there was a i'm trying to think of like maybe if you put them in uh like chain pet store windows yeah and it was just like and so everyone was just on board with the same
Starting point is 00:43:27 language the same color language i think that's brilliant yeah all right all right i'll think about how to get that implemented i think we should probably wrap this up unless you have anything else to say no i don't um i i'm gonna actually go find the um the information for us but before i do oh i got it right here you know what it's much better if i do it i've just got my own system i like have a way that i like to say it um and so i i think i'll just find it but uh in the meantime you can fill the dead air if you want uh I know that recently you've said that foreign films shouldn't be allowed to win Best Picture at our Oscars and that those people should have their own. Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, I'd love to. recent win of Parasite at the last Oscars, which didn't have a
Starting point is 00:44:26 host, by the way, they won both Best International Film and Best Film. I just feel like Best International Film that's like a global thing. And so it should be for the best film
Starting point is 00:44:42 of the globe. But Best Film, Best but best film, best Oscar for film. Like that's smaller than the globe. Right. So like give it to an American, you know, because,
Starting point is 00:44:54 uh, it's, I don't want to say local native. No, I definitely don't want to say that listen i think it's clear that the best picture of the year parentheses american was uh joker i guess if i'm following the breadcrumbs on a point of view that I've created in this
Starting point is 00:45:25 moment. And part about these is that you, you find yourself following the logic of a really terrible person and you're appalled at yourself for doing. Yeah. Cause like I'm, I'm trained to make reasonable arguments and connect points a to point B to point C.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And when I do that on something like this, I hate who I've become. Um, but I agree with me. It should have been Joker. Okay. On Twitter, you can follow Daniel at DOB underscore INC.
Starting point is 00:45:58 That's DOB Inc. You can follow me, Soren at Soren underscore LTD. You can follow Michael at MakeMeBaconPlease. That's PLS for the please. And you can follow Quick Question at QQ underscore Soren and Dan. As I understand it, updates happen occasionally there. The Michael posts things.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Wow. Yeah, I know. I was surprised too. We also have an email, QQ with Soorinanddaniel at gmail.com. And we have a Patreon, which is patreon.com. You can also find, well, not yet. When he's got the site up and running, you can find some very interesting and good information
Starting point is 00:46:36 about how to hire Gabe, our sound engineer and editor, at gabeharder.com. Is that website still not up? There's a page. There's a splash page that says exciting things coming soon or something of that nature. Is there anything else you want to say, Dan?
Starting point is 00:46:54 No, just that I, you said that Michael post things equation, occasionally, equationally, that's fun to our Twitter. And the last thing he did was February 20th. And it was just, we made another one of these.
Starting point is 00:47:07 That's 31 whole podcasts. Listen to it and tell your friends or even strangers. Like that's the fucking content that we're putting out there. We need a social media manager. We need somebody in charge of these things. What do you think is happening on our Instagram right now? I can only imagine. Hopefully it's been hacked.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Oh God, that would be great. That's like the best thing that could possibly happen for us. If you want to hack us, we're QQ underscore with underscore Soren underscore and underscore Daniel. If that didn't take you all night to type, then I'd say have at it. Yeah.

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