Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - QQ ep 38 - Top Re-watchable Movies That Are Definitely Not The Saint

Episode Date: May 1, 2020

In this episode the Soren and Daniel give another quarantine update, and then discuss their favorite movies to re-watch.  As always, thanks to Postmates.  Use code qq and get $100 of free delivery ...credit. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello again and welcome to another episode of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, a friendly advice podcast where two outdoorsy hosts go off topic so frequently, we might as well call the show Tangents with Tan Gents. I am one of your hosts, comedy writer and winner of the 2004 Asbury Park Battle of the Bands, joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Soren Bui. Soren, hello. Right now I'm more sunburned than tan, I'll say. So I'm not living up to my end of the title.
Starting point is 00:00:31 It was, I would love, because you're a better writer than I am, so I would love if there was a smarter way that I could have planted the tan part, because, like, I just threw in outdoorsy, because we are both outdoorsy people. But I don't necessarily think that makes you tan. I'm a tan person because I'm Italian. You're not pale. You're not tan.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Right. First, I want to say, yeah, it's very nice of you to say, call me a great writer. I'm not a better writer than you uh i am also very pale so two two places where you've actually said very nice things about me that aren't necessarily true but no one could ever possibly corroborate that over just hearing us over the airwaves but uh i i think maybe like uh if if we treated it as though we were self-centered or like just dedicated to our own looks, maybe that might help. Okay. In terms of tan, because tan is like something that's just a cosmetic thing.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Right. I guess it could be a consequence of just being outside. But yeah, I don't know a good way in, man. I think maybe you did it. I definitely, the thing that I wanted was to say the phrase tangents with tangents, because I knew it was going to make you laugh and it did. And I'm so happy about that. I'm embarrassed to admit that I thought about this like six days ago and I've just been stewing with it. I spent six days trying to figure out like,
Starting point is 00:02:05 what is a good way in? So like, I know the ending. I know at the end of the maze, it's tangents with tangents. And I know that Soren's going to love it. But how do I get there? And I don't think I earned it. Well, I thought it was pretty good, man.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Honestly, I think the payoff's enough. The setup doesn't really matter. Okay. Thanks to Postmates for supporting Quick Question. When you need red wine at 4 p.m., sushi at 9 p.m., a breakfast burrito at 8 a.m., and ibuprofen at 10 a.m., Postmate it. For a limited time, Postmates is giving you $100 of free delivery credit for your first seven days. Download the Postmates app and use code QQ. Well, that's good. We are again, Soren and Daniel, and this is Quick Question. And we want to thank our listeners, as always, for joining us.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Our listeners who prefer to be called Quickle Me Elmo. Go ahead. Quickle sounds really awful. Right. Okay, good. not a nice term you latched on to it too quickle is a word that like we don't it's not yet associated with a crime right now but like eventually yeah someone like someone will be accused of quickling and we'll all know what that meant yeah well that person will be canceled for sure absolutely uh we're gonna get into our show soon where we ask each other questions and get advice and then veer wildly off topic but before all that i wanted to just again say thank you to bacon who is our cfo who is not on the podcast because he is still quarantined still engaged still bacon and we miss him dearly on the podcast because he is still quarantined, still engaged, still baking, and we miss him
Starting point is 00:03:45 dearly on this podcast. Yeah, we'd love to have him back. Here's the problem. I'm looking at his microphone right now. I have it. Oh, that's right. That's why he can't talk to us. I have his stand.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I have everything he could possibly need to do this, and it would be impossible for him to come to my house because he's quarantined. Yeah. But speaking of quarantine, before we get into the show, I'm going to put some amount of time on the clock and Soren and I are just going to talk about the quarantine. Soren, how's it going? Bad. Yeah. How's yours? I think I've figured it out. I think I've got a thing that certainly helps me. And I don't know if it'll be helpful to you because you are in a house with a family.
Starting point is 00:04:29 So things might be different. I live alone, save for my dog, Jackson. And one of the things that I've found that has been very helpful to me, apart from making sure I shower and get dressed in the morning, is I created a playlist that is like 65 songs long, and most of it is background noise. Most of it is music that is just like, this is good writing music. This is light jazz or forgettable stuff
Starting point is 00:04:55 that I don't need to pay attention to. But there are three different categories of songs that are going to come up on there. One of them is songs that I have to sing. One of them is songs that I have to play. One of them is songs that I have to play bass for because I have a bass guitar and it's always plugged in and ready for me to play now. And one of them is songs that I have to dance for. So no matter what I'm doing while I'm working at my computer, if one of these songs with a specific instruction comes up, I have to get up and do it.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Oh, there's a fourth category. Fourth category is something physical, like pushups or squats or wall sits or something like that. So I'm working and no matter what, no matter what kind of groove I'm in, this ensures that I get up and I do something. Even if I don't necessarily want to, I know it's good for me to get up and not be staring at a computer because- I think this is a great idea and since you started how how often would you say you're burning your food burning my food yeah when you're what do you listen to music well when you cook i'm sure you're listening to music like i do i'm not allowed to just step away and do 40 push-ups because i will for sure ruin whatever dish i'm making oh no cooking is different when i I'm, I'm really in the zone of cooking. This is just for like, because cooking
Starting point is 00:06:08 is a normal thing that I've carried from pre-coronavirus days into current coronavirus days. The playlist with its, uh, subsequent instructions is a necessary addition to working from home all day, every day. Like if I didn't have that, if I didn't have a thing, if I didn't have, uh, Kendrick Lamar popping up to remind me that it's time to do pushups, then I could conceivably sit in front of my computer for the entire day. But I need these things to drag me away and do other things. And also like singing and dancing and playing bass are, are things that trick my brain into being happier than it would be normally. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:49 It's nice also to just have that kind of structure. You know how I love being told what to do. Yes. Having that kind of structure in your day where now your Alexa or your Sonos or whatever you listen to music through is like, hey, it's time for this now. Yeah. And you have to say, my hands are tied. I have to do it. Right. through is like hey it's time for this now yeah and you have to say my hands are tied i have to do it right and it's it's on shuffle so it's not like i can memorize the the schedule of things or
Starting point is 00:07:10 anything like that and uh you like structure this was uh an interesting conversation last night i was talking to my friend janie about this very thing and she was like what if you what if like a dance song or a push-up song comes on and you don't want to do it. And it was like, oh, well, I do it because those are the rules. Right. One has to have rules. And she's like, yeah, but you made the rules. I was like, yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And one day I might change them. But for now, there are rules. And following them helps me. I think, no, I would be the exact same boat i'm gonna give it a shot speaking of which dan there's a band called lowercase noises have you ever heard of them no okay this is a great writing ambient music band okay i love it i've been listening to it a lot just like hanging out in the house too um it just feels like a soundtrack to your life a little bit in a way that's not distracting. Oh, that's very fun.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I found I've gotten so much reliance on music during the quarantine, just because I'm listening to so much more of it because I'm just like in my own space all the time. And it's been very helpful and, and very thrilling and like incredibly corny in a lot of ways, not just the me singing show tunes while I'm cooking way. But the other day I was doing,
Starting point is 00:08:36 um, wind sprints. I was doing like sprint interval training. Do you, are you familiar with this? Yeah, of course. Um,
Starting point is 00:08:42 and, uh, I queued up a dream theater song from the scenes from a memory album the second track on that album and there's like a specific point right in the beginning where like the music is building and building and building and building and building and then everything cuts out and then comes back in a very big, explosive, satisfying way. And I just stood outside my apartment for a while waiting for that moment so I could start sprinting
Starting point is 00:09:10 when the music gets very exciting and amped. And if anyone heard my internal soundtrack, they'd be like, this fucking corny piece of shit. Look at him. Yes. Thinking he's scoring his own life. But you live at a very strange intersection between athletic and very, very deeply nerdy.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And I don't know. I feel like you're just alone at that cross section in the middle of a field somewhere. There's just two roads going in either direction and you're the only one there. Right. But the embarrassing thing would be like if i had started sprinting and then like something spooked me like if a bird came into my path and i'd be like oh fuck it i'd have to stop and go back and restart the track that's i don't know people at home know this but you also have you used to psych yourself up to mow the lawn when you were a kid, you would listen to Sonic the Hedgehog music.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Specifically what? The Casino Zone? What is it? I like Mystic Cave Zone a whole lot. The bass in Mystic Cave Zone fucking slaps. I think that's Sonic the Hedgehog 2, actually. And Starlight Run. I wouldn't do that for lawn mowing, but that is just like a beautiful piece of music
Starting point is 00:10:23 to listen to. So I've been listening to this band lowercase noises because i have spent a lot of time on my computer doing stuff that i need to be listening to music to to get me through it what mainly i've been making a will for colleen and i oh my god yes is this the time that we're supposed to do that you do it when you have kids. Fuck. And also, you know, childbirth is a very, very safe thing that we do, but you want to like have your ducks in a row just in case. You're going to a hospital for a very serious thing. Right. Of course.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And so I've been just through these online things you can do and they will give you access to a lawyer you can talk to and stuff. But as I'm filling all this out and like our living wills, I'm doing hers for her. And then she just goes through afterwards and reads through it and says yes or no to some of the stuff. It's long, it's exhaustive and it's like a lot of stuff you don't want to think about
Starting point is 00:11:17 because it's all these different scenarios in which something devastating has happened. Right. But there's one section that we got in a fight about which was uh she there was a section that said do you want your agent whoever you know whoever's the agent of your will basically it's going to be her for me and for me it's going to be or for her it will be me and i think i might have just said the same thing twice but uh she if that if the person dies do you want that person to be responsible on whether there's an autopsy or not?
Starting point is 00:11:48 And I put no for both of them. And she was like, why? Just make me responsible. And I was like, there's no way I'm doing that. And I'm not, you shouldn't do it either. Because what if we kill each other? Hold on. What if someday?
Starting point is 00:12:05 Yeah, go ahead. No. No, I think I'd rather give you more rope. Continue on the thread of what if we kill each other? Maybe that's the problem. All that rope, what do you hang yourself with? So you think there's a possibility that she might kill you and you don't want to have an autopsy done on you because you want to protect her or like, that's me being generous.
Starting point is 00:12:35 No, no, no. I'm saying, I'm saying I don't want her deciding whether an autopsy is done. If I die, I don't want her to step in and be like no need for an investigation no need for an autopsy to happen so you're still you're you're generally pro autopsy i am pro whatever it takes to solve that case because man it regardless of when it happens it's untimely for me is what i'm saying okay i misunderstood i thought you were i thought the clause was to remove the possibility of an autopsy because that's her argument if she kills you it's like hey that's her business no no reason to air our dirty laundry out for the public that's what she so she's on that side of the of the argument which is why wouldn't if i die why
Starting point is 00:13:17 wouldn't you just be able to say whether or not there should be an autopsy and i was like you don't want that don't put that power in my hands. I mean, I obviously I'm not going to mean to, but like if something terrible happens and I need to get out of it, like it's a bad scrape for me. Yeah. I might lie. I don't know. I can't predict what I'll be. So this is fascinating. Was, do you think the, the, the plan to do the will now? Do you think that would have happened had the quarantine not been going on? Because this is like, the timing is,
Starting point is 00:13:52 it seems particularly stressful right now. But you also have so much time on your hands. That's part of the reason that it happened. I think because of coronavirus, because we're thinking about death a little bit more, we're like, we should really, this is something we've talked about just right before before going to sleep at night we're like we should do a will yeah we should do a will and then just going to bed and never doing it and now that we
Starting point is 00:14:12 have this a bunch of time death is everywhere sickness is everywhere and she's also about to go into labor we're like okay we have to get this done now that's so i mean that's very serious that's very adult it's uh i guess i want to say grim but i shouldn't say grim because it's something that we should all face and probably me saying grim is why i'm so resistant to thinking or talking about it it's one of those things where like i've heard like my parents have certainly talked about their will and and they've casually mentioned updating their will. And it's the kind of thing where I'm very distant from. So I just think like, oh, yeah, that's tough for them.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Good thing that's never going to happen to me. Good thing I'll never die. Not in the cards for this guy. I don't think you need a will right now, honestly. I feel like if you had a will, you would just leave everything to one of your brothers, I assume. Certainly. I even remember when I first had my real adult job when I worked for Demand Media that owned Cracked back in 2008. And you're filling out all kinds of paperwork about benefits and insurance for the first time.
Starting point is 00:15:23 about benefits and insurance for the first time. And they were asking, one of the things you need to answer is like, if you die at work, where does this money go? This chunk of money that we've set aside for your death, where does that go? And me as a 22 year old was just like, oh, just give it back to the government.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I don't know. It's not mine. I'm dead. Who cares? Yeah, burn it with me and spread it across the ocean. Uh, do you have any more? Do you know? Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I have a question for you and this is not necessarily Corona or quarantine related, but do you know what you want done with your body when you die? Um, I haven't spent a whole lot of time looking into it. I'm, I'm embarrassed to admit that like the most time I've thought about it was from an episode of six feet under where they talk about Nate's wife, Lisa, looking into it i'm i'm embarrassed to admit that like the most time i've thought about it was from
Starting point is 00:16:05 an episode of six feet under where they talk about nate's wife lisa who was like a hippie earthy person that um i'm not really aligned with in most of my life but her idea was just like dump my fucking corpse in the ground and let me decompose in there and become a natural fertilizer for whatever can grow around me. And don't put a tombstone. Don't do anything special. That's kind of where I'm leaning. Can I,
Starting point is 00:16:39 can I tell you something? Yeah, go ahead. You can absolutely do that. It's called a green burial and they're awesome. Okay. The only reason that I'm not sure I want to do that
Starting point is 00:16:48 is because burials and like deaths and funerals are not about the person who is being buried and who died. It's about the people who are mourning
Starting point is 00:17:01 or commemorating. I almost said celebrating um so like there's what i want in my heart of hearts is like no fuss just drop me in the in the in the wet fucking mud and let me decompose that way but another part of me is like well the people who like it's not my problem anymore so the people who are left behind is really uh what is going to give them the most peace that and i would defer to to them at that point oh i see so the people who are closest to you whatever gives them the greatest sense of solace right like again i'm not planning on i'm not planning on dying it's not uh i have too much to do but if it happens uh like i i want whatever like my would
Starting point is 00:17:51 give my parents closure and and happiness in this ceremony because like i'm not around anymore so i don't give a shit well so let me let me because i didn't know anything about green burials until i was in the same boat and i was like what's's, because I was thinking about for Colleen first, because I was filling her out first and she's very environmentally minded. And I was thinking, what would she want the most? Because cremation is actually a pretty big carbon footprint. You're pumping a lot of gases into the atmosphere and everything through it. And also the ashes aren't particularly good for wherever you spread them. And I knew she wouldn't want a regular burial because that's also pricey. And it's all it's there's a lot of just preservation that doesn't need to happen.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And then I discovered these green burials, which are fucking awesome and perfect. It's like there's a lot of places all over the country that are sanctioned for this. Some of them are just preserves. Some of them are parts of cemeteries. You can just be basically buried in a shroud if you wanted to. You don't even need a box. They just wrap you up in some gauze and they throw you in the ground. And you can still have a tombstone and stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:57 You can have the funeral portion of it, the ceremony for the people who are living but you yourself you just go into the ground and then uh you live on in spiders and earwigs and all the things that eat you and and you gain control of their bodies obviously what does so you say there are a lot of places around the country that are sanctioned to do this what do they look like to a person who's just like wandering around traveling like i can spot a cemetery because it's very so some of them are sections of cemeteries you would you just have like the green section of the cemetery and they have to have they have to pass some pretty rigorous um standards to be sanctioned but then the other ones are preserves there are places where no one's allowed to build it's a nature preserve or it's for uh uh like a waterway that they need to they need to keep keep preserved
Starting point is 00:19:48 and on the banks of it or off to the side i don't know how far but they're just areas where you're allowed to bury someone and then put up a some small like wooden stake or something like that to say who they were wow uh so so yeah i guess that for me yeah that's what i'm saying as soon as i found it i started to get really excited about it is uh have you talked to colleen yeah she's that's what she wants she wants that too okay that's cool that'd be really like it's uh it's a bit for absolutely no one except maybe me if your burial plan for her was this this green space thing and then you had like some giant ornate mausoleum for yourself yeah that's the best part is that you can write in you can say burial cremation or other and then there's a space to write some stuff and it's very tempting
Starting point is 00:20:37 not to be like put me in a rocket and send me to the sun or like i want to be fireworks yeah and that's all you're right. And then your family has to be like, all right, fuck. How do we do that? It was his dying wish. I know he's not going to know if we do it or not, but like, what if he does somehow?
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yeah, please bury me with all the wolves I killed. And people are like, oh shit, he didn't kill any. He just died of cancer. I don't know what to do. I guess we got to kill some wolves for him. This episode is brought to you by Postmates. When you need red wine at 4 p.m., sushi at 9 p.m., a breakfast burrito at 8 a.m., and ibuprofen at 10 a.m.
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Starting point is 00:25:40 be very surprising for them to know just how many times you saw this movie. Tokyo Drift. I've seen probably 40 times. Okay. I want to throw some caveats in here. One of them is you can't mention The Saint, a weird movie that you love so much. Well, everyone knows that one already. That's not going to surprise anybody. I also, you, because you used to have a job where you reviewed movies professionally,
Starting point is 00:26:02 like at, like a blockbuster. Was it a blockbuster or a blockbuster type store? No, I was a quality assurance tester on DVDs. They would come to us first before they went out to the general public. Okay. So you watched a lot of the same DVDs over and over again to look for mistakes or glitches or whatever. So it can't be any of those. It's not like you were forced by circumstance to watch a movie over and over again. Is that Tokyo Drift or did you watch Tokyo Drift on purpose? No, Tokyo Drift was one of those. So I've seen Tokyo Drift in every language you can imagine. I learned some Hungarian from watching Tokyo Drift in Hungarian so many times and some Japanese. hungarian from watching tokyo drift and hungarian so many times and some japanese uh yeah it's i've seen that i and wedding crashers those two are the ones that work that i watched the very very
Starting point is 00:26:51 most okay but outside of work a movie that i've seen more than probably anything is the movie scrooged oh love that movie yeah it's a very good one. So it's not super weird. It's a one where people are like, yeah, I'd watch that again. Yeah. And then down the list just below that one, Any Given Sunday. Really? Yeah. Is that movie good? No.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Okay. I didn't think so. No, but it's so engaging. it's got albacino engaging and i love albacino so much um but bill simmons loves it and bill simmons has awful taste it's uh i'm trying to equate it to something it's like eating a bag of flaming hot cheetos it's like it's tasty but it does nothing for you and the reason it's tasty, but it does nothing for you. And the reason it's tasty is it triggers this one part of your brain
Starting point is 00:27:47 that's desperate for this type of thing. I'd say that there's, they don't linger on a shot for more than a second. Oh yeah, it's that, it's not Ridley Scott, is it? Who directed that movie? Ooh, it does sound like a Scott thing,
Starting point is 00:28:04 doesn't it? Because that music video style editing is very Ridley Scott. Are you directed that movie? It does sound like a Scott thing doesn't it? Because that like that music video style editing is is very Ridley Scott. Are you googling it? Yeah. Okay I'll just vamp here while you do that. So Jesse Spano. Oliver Stone. Oliver Stone.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Okay. I think I hate him. It's a so it's it's Steadicam or not even Steadicam it's handheld. So you're there's a lot of just kind of like drifting out of frame and stuff like that. And then you just bounce around the entire time. As people are having conversations, suddenly you're just like on the pictures on the walls for a little while.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Or suddenly you're in black and white and you're looking down a hallway on the other side of frame. It's really weird choices, but your brain just wants that. Is there, I have to admit i've never seen this movie in full it's one of those ones that comes up on tnt a lot and i'll yes i'll throw it on and watch like bits and pieces of it is it largely a football movie or is it more about
Starting point is 00:28:56 the behind the scenes stuff like do you get a lot of like good football action yes there's a lot of good football action in it a lot of impossible football action uh and there's it's you're right that it's on tnt a lot it's been on a lot of different it's one of those movies that runs in syndication on all kinds of channels as them like the the movie of the day stuff and that's why i watch it so frequently it's one of those ones where if i come across it i'm not gonna just leave yeah there's no point in it where i I come across it, I'm not going to just leave. There's no point in it where I get bored enough that I'm going to walk away. And so I've watched it in its entirety and also in bits and pieces so many times. Man, that is surprising.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I like that. I have two. Okay. The more modern one is I, Tonya. Wow. is i tanya wow i saw three times in theaters and then again on every flight i have ever taken since that movie came out and i also own it even though it's one of those movies that i like as soon as it became available to own via itunes or whatever i knew it was one of those movies that was like well this will eventually be on streaming on hbo or some other thing that i don't have to pay extra for but i was like i don't care i want it i want the freedom to watch this movie whenever i fucking want and i have that
Starting point is 00:30:14 in purchasing itania at the the highest amount of money one could purchase that money for i think it's so good and there was one six hour flight from la to jersey where i watched it on the plane and as soon as it was done it was like that was pretty good so should we again once more once more around the block watching this movie again two in a row and i did that movie fucking rules have Have you seen it? I have. Yeah. Watch it again. You found it fine? Yeah. I think Allison Janney is incredible.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yes. And the rest of it's just sort of like, it's good, but it has like that, the big short feel to it where every once in a while we're just like checking in on me in my living room to tell me something specific and uh i don't i don't know i feel like they didn't weren't as successful with it but oh my god i don't want to i don't want to kill your buzz no no no it's fine you're just wrong and you're out of your mind and it's and it's such a great movie and uh i think margot robbie lost the oscar that year to francis mcdormand which is not like it's not a sin it's not a bad thing francis mcdormand for three billboards outside of missouri was also incredibly good and deserved her award but it's one of those it's one of those years where it's like well no neither of you should lose you're both so good. And for Margot Robbie,
Starting point is 00:31:47 I don't know if she's going to get a part like this again for a very long time because she's so typecast as insanely hot woman. And she's such a good actress that doesn't always get to spread her wings that way. But man, she's so good in that movie and the reason that i'm thinking about it specifically is there's uh an hbo original movie that's out right now called bad education with hugh jackman and it's a very interesting
Starting point is 00:32:17 story uh it's based on a true story and it's a great movie and allison janney is in it and watching that movie as much as i'm like invested in the movie all i'm thinking about is like man i can't wait this is till this is done so i can watch itania again because this movie has a bunch of close-ups of alice and jannie's face while she's acting and yeah and uh as that's the best i want more of that get out of here fighting get out of here hugh jackman i could watch a whole movie of Allison Janney fighting with a parrot oh my god it's so fucking good so some things
Starting point is 00:32:49 are falling into place for me here Dan I was trying to figure out why you went and saw this one three times because you do enjoy going to the movies by yourself yes and you enjoy seeing kind of anything but I'm looking at the other stuff that came out in February of 2018 it's The Commuter
Starting point is 00:33:03 Red Sparrow I saw Red Sparrow in theaters it fucking sucked The other stuff that came out in February of 2018. It's The Commuter. Uh-huh. Red Sparrow. I saw Red Sparrow in theaters. It fucking sucked. Yeah. Get out of town. Fifty Shades Freed. Peter Rabbit.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Okay. Winchester. And then Annihilation and Game Night and Black Panther. So I imagine that those... Black Panther is a movie you could see over and over again, but Annihilation is not a movie you're going back to watch a bunch. No, I saw that the one time and was very moved by it, but then didn't want to go back to the theater for it. Peter Rabbit doesn't really feel like your speed.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And then Game Night is also not a movie that I feel like is particularly up your alley. To be completely honest, and this is surprising because I see most movies in theaters, I didn't see Game Night in theaters. I didn't see Game Night in theaters. I waited until it became on demand and I regret that decision. Game Night was a huge surprise as far as comedies for adults go because that's a very narrow category. adults go because there aren't that's a that's a very narrow category comedies often aim to be like pg-13 and kind of like playing to a wider base and as someone who writes comedy i wish there was more of a market for adult driven comedies and game night was one of those like it's it's everything that i wanted in an adult comedy where it's like, I say adult, I don't mean like raunchy. It's not like wedding crashers or American pie. It's not like puerile or anything like that. It's just like, yeah, it, uh, treats its audience with some level of respect and also does jokes and says the F word.
Starting point is 00:34:42 also does jokes and says the F word. That's good to hear. I anticipated it being, I mean, when I saw the trailer for it, I thought, surely this is the movie equivalent of when Saturday Night Live does a sketch. And then they're going to repeat that sketch a few months from now with
Starting point is 00:34:55 just like some different jokes in it. They'll have the same characters. They'll have the same setups. And Date Night had come out in what? 2010. And I thought this movie is just another date night, right? It's not. That's it's reasonable for you to assume that it was another date night where you're just
Starting point is 00:35:09 like moving from set piece to set piece but it's it's like a genuinely well written and well crafted and incredibly well directed by john francis daly and his writing directing partner goodness i wish i had that off the top of my head but uh that'd have been good to be honest it's pretty good that i knew that i i'm surprised you did yeah um but anyway game night's great i tanya rules the other movie that i think might surprise people that i've seen so many times is have you seen rescuers down under? Of course. You have? Yeah. Okay, because it's a Disney animated movie that I feel like gets kind of slept on because it stars George C. Scott, Bob Newhart, and Ava Gabor, which are not names that resonate with children who watch Disney movies.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And it's a 1990s sequel to a movie that came out in, I want to say 77. Is that it? 77. Yeah. And I actually saw it before I saw The Rescuers, the one that came out in 77. And it was a movie that came out when I was a kid
Starting point is 00:36:18 that I would watch it. And similar to I, Tanya, once it was done, I was like, okay, let's rewind and let's watch it again because it was just a it's beautiful the opening sequence is one of the most beautiful sequences of any disney movie and b i think even at like six years old i feel like i recognized uh bob newhart as like a guy that i needed to succeed to continue living my life because the movie sets up uh pudgy nervous stuttery mouse bernard uh wooing uh miss bianca who was like stone cold fucking hottie and his sexual rival is jake the Australian kangaroo rat, who was like tall and fit and confident.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And even as a child, I knew what my lane was. I was very aware that like, listen, if Bob Newhart doesn't get the girl at the end of this, then like, what hope is there for me? I think it's wonderful that you finally found some representation. Thank you. Very fitting. I'll tell you how, why I know rescuers so well. We had the board game for the original 77 movie. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:37:38 And I was, it was a really cool art all over the board. And I don't even remember how the game was played, but like, I was very curious about it and there was like a very creepy crocodile on it and uh alligator and so i got very invested and then uh watched that movie and then really really wanted to see rescues down under when that came out yeah that's the thing about that uh this is a tangent but the thing about that 1977 movie which uh i recommend if anyone has disney plus uh and they only got it because of The Mandalorian and now it's just collecting dust, go back. You can watch both The Rescuers Down Under and the original Rescuers from 1977. It's such a fascinating time capsule of a Disney movie because it's just so beautifully
Starting point is 00:38:21 painted. The artwork in this movie is insane and the opening of the rescuers is just a very long like title sequence that uh now probably seems very self-indulgent like we don't have title sequences this long anymore especially in animation and this is just like you're gonna listen to a full four minute song about being rescued and you're gonna look at a bunch of like lovingly painfully crafted paintings while we go through all the credits of everyone who worked on this movie before we actually get into this movie which is again a a children's movie about mice who solve crimes.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah. It's a, I was just watching Bambi with my son on Disney plus the other day and turned it on and he didn't understand what the fuck was going on. Cause there's so much, uh, orchestral music up front with a bottle, a lot of words on the screen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:19 They do like an overture. He's old Disney movies. Just like this, this is a, you know, an amuse bouche of the kind of music that you're going to be seeing and uh you know it's the past so there are only three channels and we haven't invented air conditioning yet so just like strap in and deal with this yeah i think that there's probably gonna be a lot of kids out there when
Starting point is 00:39:41 you ask that question of what's a movie you've seen over and over again it's whatever you or your parents taped off vhs when you were like eight yeah that quill that seminal age where suddenly you had a new movie to watch in your house and you're just like well every saturday morning after cartoons and this is what it's going to be right that's why scrooge was on my plate it was a movie movie we got, I think, around the same time as Batman. And I was just like, these are the movies. These are the only two movies in the world. I mean, Scrooge is legitimately a fucking great movie. It's one of those ones that, like, there's... You probably have this too.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Are there... So there are famous movie quotes in the world. I'll be back, hasta la vista. A third one from terminator um but are there movie quotes that have become famous within your family that aren't like like i could say say hello to my little friend and anyone would know what i was talking about but i could also say there's gum on my seat. Gum. And that's not like an iconic movie quote.
Starting point is 00:40:50 That is Sandra Bullock in Speed trying to get away from Alan Ruck's character. That just like, it took on iconic status within my family. Do you have movie quotes in your family that you guys know as iconic that don't necessarily read as iconic elsewhere? My family doesn't have that. And I'm trying to think of why. And I think it's that we never, our interests never intersected at all. Really? Yeah, we weren't, we didn't watch the same movies
Starting point is 00:41:14 to the point where when we would go to a movie theater, I can remember being very young and I would go into a different movie than my parents. And then when my movie ended, I'd go into the last 45 minutes of theirs. What? You didn't do that? No. Yeah. I would go watch a movie, some cartoon movie, and then I would go see the last 30 minutes of leaving Las Vegas or whatever they went and saw.
Starting point is 00:41:43 That's so wild to me. We watched all of our movies together like a family. And sometimes that meant my parents had to watch some like shitty, boring kid nonsense. And sometimes I'd watch Die Hard with a Vengeance like I'm all grown up now. I think my parents never suffered that at all. They were just like, no, I'm not watching this. That's fascinating. And also strange that you don't have like quotes that have become infamous within your family.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I love the idea of that. That sounds wonderful to have in jokes with your families about movies. Yeah, we have, if I said, I'm going to say this thing, I'm going to deliver it perfectly. And I'm going to see if you know what it's from.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Okay. It's a movie that is full of instantly iconic and quotable lines. Used to hear mom. We'll check it out. Is that Ghostbusters? Nope. What is it? E.T.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Okay. Is that, wait, were you a scientist there? No, that's the kids that's a like the very beginning when the kids are like eating pizza and they just hear some nonsense going outside going on outside and one of the kids just said used to hear mom we'll check it out like he sings it that way and it's very strange like natural thing that just stuck out to my family that i i think i i didn't learn until high school that oh that's not one of the lines that people quote from et it's mostly the phone home thing yeah yeah i guess i could also be very alienating
Starting point is 00:43:19 with the other kids at your school i saw a last action hero with my best friend in elementary school ed and so from for like years we would say holy cow to each other all the time because at your school. I saw Last Action Hero with my best friend in elementary school, Ed. And so for years, we would say, holy cow to each other all the time because this child in it, at one point when he's on the floor of the theater and watching Explosions, says, holy cow, in a very funny way. But I know I never had that with my
Starting point is 00:43:38 family. Do you have any questions for me while we're doing the show? Yeah, I got a question for you. I remember now. uh dan quick question um on a previous podcast we talked a little bit about creating your own way through a video game where you're like your own little side quest and i made me realize that my family did do that with board games when i was a little kid like you you build the game to suit your particular family and the way that you play to make it more fun for everybody. And I was wondering if you can remember as a child playing board games, if your family
Starting point is 00:44:14 changed the rules to games and what they changed them to. I think the closest that we came was, um, gosh, you're gonna have to help me with this in monopoly there are a couple of spaces that you land on where you just have to pay money yes to the government i suppose it's like that that that large broad idea of banks in general yeah there's a tax there's some tax ones yeah and for most of my childhood memory we just didn't do that like you land on like the income tax thing whatever piece is like a ring with a diamond on it was like oh yeah we don't that means nothing we don't we don't do that like my my parents had just decided that we will not adhere to this strange monopoly in-game rule that you have to pay money into the bank's coffers.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Are your parents libertarians? I think that's what we're learning. That feels like Monopoly is a perfect game for that because every family has different rules to Monopoly and no one has bothered to look them up like there's there a lot of people play where every single time you pay anything you pay into the middle and then whoever lands on free parking gets all of it so you have one person the game suddenly that's a millionaire um monopoly is a good one i go ahead i think we also had a rule that like like no one person could all own all four of the railroads oh no one can have, no one could be a railroad tycoon? Right. Well, essentially, no one could own a monopoly.
Starting point is 00:45:54 We fundamentally disagreed on what this game stood for. I mean, railroads are a waste anyway. I think maybe your family's just streamlining the game a little bit. It's like money goes to individual people. And it always has to be large sums. So we've been playing a lot of board games lately because we're in quarantine. I have a four-year-old son. He's like starting to understand them and not freak out when he loses.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And so we started playing Guess Who? And my wife and I found a really great way to play the game that I think I'm going to continue to do forever now, which is in guess who you're not allowed to ask questions about physical characteristics. You have to ask questions about their character. I love that so much. As you look at them, like you, you make judgments on their character. So like, is your person, person uh would you be comfortable with this person babysitting ronin that's so good and you say no my god okay let's see flip flip flip flip flip flip or you say like is your person a schemer yeah or like would your person
Starting point is 00:46:58 talk about their cleanse on facebook and and oh fuck you know who it is and when you win that way it's so much more gratifying when you're like you both have just agreed on this this very specific thing and you get to the end you're like is your person is your person charles you're like it is charles and both of you get very excited that's so great i love that so much yeah i can't imagine how... Ronan? Ronan is playing it. Well, so he... For that particular version of the game, we let him be the flipper.
Starting point is 00:47:33 So if Colleen asked me a question like, does your person own a Prius? And I say, yes. Then he gets to decide what that means. That's so great. Yeah. I love that. That's very wholesome and I love it a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:47:49 The only other thing that we did with board games, and it's again Monopoly, is I feel like we introduced conversation into parts of it. If one of my brothers landed on Broadway when I owned it and I had a hotel on broadway there was an opportunity for them to be like look i could pay you this money now or i could be kinder to you later if you land on my marvin gardens like there was a lot of room for negotiation did it expand beyond the game like no no okay look i don't i can't cover it right now
Starting point is 00:48:27 but i know how much you've been eyeing my sega and i'm really gonna let you play it no um yeah there's monopoly is just like full of crazy ass rules that are family dependent and that's what i think creates the majority of the fights when new groups of people play together they're like what the that's not a rule. You don't get to roll three times and then you're out of jail or like roll doubles. Like we played a, this will be a good opportunity for me to find out if a thing my family did is normal or not. We played poker a lot growing up. Like before Holden, Texas Holden became very popular when i was in like high school
Starting point is 00:49:06 and college but before then we just like i feel like in sixth grade my mom taught me how to play you know five card seven card draw instead baseball draw yeah all the different versions of poker before hold them that you could play and we just played it with like uh pennies we all had a hundred pennies and we would use those to bet and we would go around and just like play poker ages ranging from 10 years old to whatever my parents were aged when i was in middle school. And there weren't really stakes because like no one keeps the pennies when you win. And also it's pennies. But I don't know if it's like strange for a child to understand gambling at 10. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I think I'm trying to think back on, I didn't play, I didn't gamble with my parents,'t understand percentages and things like that. So we just create all kinds of wilds. Like Deuces, Aces, One-Eyed Faces rings a serious bell for me when I was about 9 and 10 years old. Do you know what I'm talking about when I say that? I can put it together contextually, but that's not a thing that we would say. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:41 It was just way too many wilds. Yeah. One-Eyed Faces has got to be any royal card where you only see one of their eyes i'm assuming yeah exactly when they're silhouetted um but yeah we i played a lot of poker when i was a kid yeah i don't think that's too crazy we played it a lot with the family and then uh ended up playing this is tangent played so much different gambling games in my high school that they uh had to amend the high school handbook to specifically forbid gambling because we've been doing it too much oh that's we found out that a little too on the nose for a jersey school we found out this wasn't this wasn't um hold them
Starting point is 00:51:31 or anything like that but uh i can't remember if it's ti89 ti83 is the calculator where you could assess probability by rolling three digital dice in the calculator. You're supposed to do that to help with stats questions and whatnot, but we used it to play a dice game called CeeLo, where you throw three dice. Are you familiar with this game? No. Okay, so CeeLo, it's a great, highly addictive gambling game
Starting point is 00:52:03 that you do with three dice. You put money in the pot in the beginning of a round. And the only way for someone to score a point is to get two dice that land on the same number. And then whatever the third dice is, that is your score. So I roll two sixes and a three. My score is three. And then we go around and who can beat three by rolling two of the same number. It doesn't need to be sixes, just two of
Starting point is 00:52:29 any number. And then their number, if it beats three, then they're in the lead and you go around and around until someone beats it. Now the greatest score you can get on that first tier is a six. So if you get two numbers and a six, you're winning. Beyond that tier, you get three numbers of the same number. Three dice of the same number. So trips 2 beats a 6. Trips 3 beats a 6, etc, etc, etc.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And so 6, 6, 6 is the highest score until you get C-low, which is 4, 5, 6. If someone rolls a 4, 5, 6, then that trumps anything that anyone else can do. And if someone gets a 1, 2, 3, that's the opposite of a C-low. That means they automatically lose.
Starting point is 00:53:13 So we were playing that with physical dice, and then teachers were like, hey, we can't bring dice into school because it's school. And then we found out you can replicate that on a ti83 calculator and so we would just like roll the dice on the calculator and pass the calculator back and forth and we would exchange paper clips based on who won and then later we would redeem those paper clips for money because we were gambling in high school instead of just learning anything and then they eventually had to amend our
Starting point is 00:53:47 handbook that was like you can't fucking gamble in high school kids you gotta stop it's like you're 15 years old what are you doing with that money what's your plan like who's trying to make their nut yeah who's sweating this because they lost a bunch on that next game? It feels like every invention we have in the world either came from prison or school, like a way of getting around the rules. When people tell me Velcro was for space, I was like, are you sure?
Starting point is 00:54:20 It feels like that's from prison. Right, it seems like someone was trying to save time in between murders we should probably wrap this up I think I'm gonna sorry fuck I do this every week I need to track down the social accounts
Starting point is 00:54:40 to plug no I get it we can just sit in silence for a little bit. No, while I do that, I just wanted to say, with families forced to be home and educate their own children during the coronavirus, there's been a lot of talk about reform, both in how students should be taught and more pointedly, how teachers should be compensated. Many parents are now realizing just how hard it is to teach their children all day, every day, and just how valuable teachers really are. My question to you, Soren,
Starting point is 00:55:08 which incidentally is completely unrelated, is who are your top five favorite female authors? They have to be authors of books, not articles or movies, just your top five favorite female authors of books. Okay, okay, I can do this. Harper Lee, gotta be, just her birthday recently. She wrote a great book. everyone might be familiar with it it's called To Kill a Mockingbird
Starting point is 00:55:31 Elspeth Davies she's a Scottish writer wonderful short stories but I think also has written some novels Amy Tan wrote the Joy Luck Club gotta love her I don't know what else she might have written i'm
Starting point is 00:55:48 i'm sure some really great books oh god i got this i fucking got this tony morrison um she wrote sula and uh the bluest eye i want to say and alice walker wrote the color purple great book you can't go wrong fuck you dan i did it you can uh ask soren more about that on twitter at soren underscore ltd or you can talk to me at dob underscore inc or our erstwhile absent business daddy bacon at make me bacon please pls uh you can email the show at qq with soren daniel at gmail.com you can find the show at large at twitter at twitter.com slash qq underscore soren and dan or instagram probably you can hire gabe our engineer and producer and editor you guys don't
Starting point is 00:56:39 know this because there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff that went into this but this episode was particularly riddled with issues that gabe solved like a fucking genius and you can find him at gabe harder.com spelled exactly as it sounds uh we also have a patreon that you should ignore until the coronavirus is over and as always listen hold on before you do that dan to our faithful listeners who have been here since day one you could go back and listen to our very first episode and then this episode and hear the difference in quality as our podcast got better and better. And it's because we hired Gabe. Yeah. That's interesting that Soren spent so much time struggling to name a fifth female author and now he wants to interrupt to celebrate another man.
Starting point is 00:57:24 That's interesting that's the thing that soren did that you can talk to him about at soren underscore ltd um that's it from me i think on this podcast soren do you have any more to say no apparently i'm gonna be pretty busy you

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