Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - QQ ep 79 - Any Given Sorenday feat. Cody Johnston

Episode Date: March 5, 2021

In this episode the guys hang with their old Cracked buddy Cody Johnston! They talk bad movies and quarantine habits.  And as always big thanks to our sponsors.  Thanks to skillshare, go to Skillshare.com/qq and get a free trial of Premium Membership.  And make sure to go to hellotushy.com/qq get  10% off and FREE SHIPPING.

Hello again and welcome to another episode of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, the podcast where two best friends and comedy writers give out lots and lots of answers. I forgot to write this part again. I am one half of this show, writer, runner, Hell's Kitchen sous chef, coming at you with big second husband energy, Daniel O'Brien, joined as always by my co-host, Soren Bui. Soren, say hello. Hello, everybody. I'm Soren Bui, and I'm coming to you live from the back of my garage.

I thought, usually I tell you a little bit about myself, but I thought maybe today it would be fun if I just like paint you a picture of where I am. Okay. It's dark. It's very, very dusty. It smells like worms because we have worms and I'm surrounded by all the things in my life that I don't really want anymore, but I can't throw away for whatever reason. Name some of those things.

Okay. There's a big snoo box, which is a cardboard box that carried the bassinet for my daughter, which we've since given away. But the box now contains some ski equipment and some other things that I need it to hold stuff, but it takes up a lot of room and I don't really want to go through it because that would mean that I have to find a place for all that other stuff. I have two gas cans. One of them even has a little bit of gas in it.

Hey, not a useful amount. Uh, some screen for windows, but not like a, an actual screen you could use. Just if you ever wanted to make your own screen, you'd have to obviously produce the frame first.

But then after that, you're set because I've got this. These to me, if I may, these sound like things you can throw out. When you said I can't throw them out for whatever reason, I thought either they were going to be like sentimental or heavy. Oh, no, it's not like a logistical issue. It's like I'm worried that i'm gonna need this stuff oh okay at some point and i'm so frequently right that's what really that's that's the kicker because it does end up coming useful again i've got like a whole shelf of paints

that were used for uh this house and i'm like i can't i don't want them there. It's like half filled things of paint. When you open them, they smell like sulfur, but I got to keep them in case like the baseboards get damaged. And now I got to go back and paint them. To me, that's incredibly reasonable. I have the same stuff in my own apartment. And as you and our listeners know, I've been staying in a rented house in a small beach town in New Jersey for a few months now and i love everything about the place but but except for like that forgettable but uh completely unnecessary until it's necessary stuff that you just need around the house like i'm in the the kitchen opening things and going through drawers and going like where's his fucking kitchen scissors everyone's supposed to have

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Cody Johnston. Cody, say hello. Hello. And hi. Hey. Hi. I had things to add, but I wanted to be respectful. I agree with your foibles. I saw you nodding a lot vigorously. Yeah, you were like very

attentive to what was going on. He's right. You need those paints. You need those paints. You need the paints. Exactly. We're going to get into the show. But first, we want to ask you what we ask all of our guests, of which there have now been six. Is there something that is new in your life from COVID, a new habit or a new attitude that you hope you keep going with in the real world? Excellent phrasing. Every single time, that's how we ask it. So this is the sixth time you've asked perfectly.

Yes. No notes. A few things, actually. They're kind of related, I guess. One thing I'm... Zooming old friends, like college friends, that don't live nearby more often.

Which is something that... And family and stuff. Actual Zoom stuff, which was available to everybody before this. Right. But just not something I regularly did. So that's been something that I keep up with and letting, you know,

them know I love them and things like that. Slightly related to that is I'm playing more music, but in a more like a regular way. I'm trying to actually like hone my skills and, and develop them and like learn about what I'm trying to actually hone my skills and develop them and learn about what I'm doing. I've played guitar for 15 years, and I learned some chords, and I wrote songs, and I played them. You were there. You were in the band. But now I'm actually looking into and developing, like, okay, why did I do that?

Why does this sound like this? Like, okay, why did I do that? Why does this sound like this? What is, like, modes and intervals and just, like, learning scales and just, like, actually, like, making my hand hurt and things like that, which I would like to continue throughout my years. Yeah, I've been trying to do the same thing with bass because I'm the same way as you is I'm just sort of been playing for a while and, like, learning as I'm going and going and like would learn tabs online or i would just

jam with you until something sounded good uh but you know lock me in a room for 11 months with very little to do i'm gonna just like sit and like try to actually get better at the bass for the first time and and like there's uh a band that i've fallen in love with during quarantine called Wolfpack. They're like a nerdy funk band that's very bass driven, bass forward band. And there are a song of theirs called Beastly where I'm really pushing the limits of what I can do as a bass player. Because that's a song that has like a main groove three or four times and then just open space for bass solos and I know that I could sit like a robot and stare at tabs and memorize exactly what he's doing but I'm trying to actually like I want to know what notes are available to me so I can just like

legitimately solo for yeah exactly and just like play something yeah if I'm trying to be the middle if there's some emergency and like we need someone to solo over beastly but it can't be the one that that joe dart did like okay this is what i've been training for like knowing like uh being able to that's uh was early like mid last year was like i'm gonna just spend like a couple of hours every day um after about a month i literally couldn't play for like a week because i like strained my fingers and hand um but just like if i were to pop in a place and someone's like hey this song is an a lydian i'd be like okay i can solo over

that i can play whatever uh and like no matter what combination of of of keys i can now participate in that like like, comfortably. Which, like, again, you were there. I'd be like, I don't know, does this sound okay? What's this going on? So one time we were, you and I, this was after one of my, we went bowling together. And then we went to Bacon's house.

And he had a keyboard. And you were playing it. And he asked you some music question about like what you're supposed to do. And I think you just said, oh, you just play the white keys. Does that sound right? Oh, that is exactly what I would have said.

That's all you gotta do. You just pound on it. It sounds fine. It sounds like you're like, okay, I can sit down. I can sit down in a hotel lobby and fake it. Every piano comes with good keys and then some bad keys. Don't fall for those.

Those are trick keys. So we don't need to talk about this too much. I would love to be in that situation now and have Bacon ask me that question so I could talk to death about it. I love talking about that and music theory and why this and this and this. And I also play more than the white keys now hey um and i understand why and where they where they go and what what my choices are you thought it was a design flaw this whole time yeah it's like why do you even have these there's like they're the white ones are right in front of you they sound

fine together um so that's yeah that's a huge thing and like with drums and piano and guitar and uh i might get a bass i don't know yeah do it. Why not? Playing a lot of mandolin too but that's... Oh you know I think you posted a video of you playing mandolin in in your car and then never did that again? Yeah. Okay cool. And I was like I'm to post more stuff like this. And here we are. No matter what 2021 brings, you can spend it creating something meaningful with Skillshare's online classes, because time is what we make of it. With Skillshare, you can find inspiration in the moment

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other questions about four times per episode so but we're going to get into it yeah yeah we're going to get into the part where we ask questions it's just so easy to derail you, Dan. That's the problem. I really want to answer Bacon's question. Whatever it was, I don't remember what it was. I do have a quick question for you, Cody. Do you have any indefensible movie rewatches? And this is not like, I'll clarify it endlessly to death as I always do. So this isn't something where it's like, everyone says this movie is bad, but you like it.

Like I feel that way about, about Troy and about a couple other movies like Troy. And, uh, this is a movie that like, you know, is, is bad and it's not enjoyably bad.

You have a bad time watching it, but you still watch it. I'll give an example while you think about that. Mine is the wolf of Wall Street. It sucks when I watch it. There's a lot of really talented people in it, and I like them all. And I know Martin Scorsese is good.

Yeah, he's a talented guy. I was so amped for that movie because i saw the trailer for it my brother and i went to the theater to watch it and it was a rare movie where like in the middle of the theater experience we're like i think this might be bad which doesn't happen often because i'm i'm i'm so easily like lulled to joy with just the experience of being in a movie right um but this one was like you got to finish the thing i think i'm having a bad time and then i've probably watched with just the experience of being in a movie. But this one was like, I think I'm having a bad time. And then I've probably watched that movie

seven times since it's come out. That's too many times even if you like the movie. I'm starting to think that I'm really just so stupid that I'll watch the trailer and get effectively tricked by it. It does exactly what a trailer is supposed to do where I watch it even though I know it's trailer and get effectively tricked by it.

It does exactly what a trailer is supposed to do where I watch it, even though I know it's bad. And I'm like, man, if they deliver on that movie, that'd be great. Let me just fire up this three-hour fucking movie. That's three hours? It's way too long, too. That's so long. And it doesn't get better when I watch it.

You can remember the main moments, like the big moments that happen goldfish gets eaten he falls out of his car on lewds like there's little things you're looking for along the way and like you get to them and you're like oh fuck i think this is only about halfway yeah like you kind of have a sense of where they are in it that movie is long it's really long it's really bad and like i've learned things so i i this is someone's gonna figure out what's wrong with my brain after i watched the movie and didn't like it i read the book that it's based on and i didn't like it and i i i continue to watch the movie and i also read a bunch of things about the movie that like there's a a scene where the horrible

wall street bros um pay one of their secretaries or just like like an unnamed woman as a lot of martin scorsese's characters are unnamed woman who doesn't get any words um we're gonna pay her a certain amount of money the in the reality of this movie the bros are gonna pay her to shave her head and she gets like you know not enough money to make a life change like that um yeah but she does it anyway and i think i've since learned that uh like a real version of that played out in the movie with that actress where like she didn't sign up she had to shave her head and sign up right she had to right but she didn't sign up to play like woman who shaves her head in

This movie that was like a thing that organically happened in the making of the movie and I like no there are similar Instances like a bunch of bros making a movie paid her a certain amount of money to shave her head What if hey what if we put in the movie the thing we're doing to you right now? That's so like a scene where a bunch of where all the wall street bros are on a plane and they're really terrible to all the the female flight attendants and then you read stories afterwards where it's like oh yeah there were some like actual like people got hurt like real damage was done like this person got a huge cut on their leg so it's i'm also watching the movie knowing that in real life it was a bad time for everyone involved in it.

Yeah, they're just like being bad and they're like, we'll film this. We'll put it in. This would be great for this movie about bad people. So it's, I have every reason to not watch this movie. And I'm going to do it again this weekend just because I'm talking about it right now. And I'm thinking of the part in the trailer where Matthew McConaughey isaughey is pounding on his chest and i'm like yeah yep this time yeah you're literally like it's the trailer it is it's like they picked the the five best parts of the movie that are trailer worthy and that's what you want to watch that's true a lot of things in your life though you feel like

you've got a new perspective maybe like you're gonna come at it from a different angle and you're like maybe i'll like this thing now like maybe i do like deli mustard you're like i'm gonna try it now and like maybe i've grown into it i get that i get that feeling and uh i wolf of wall street is just i don't think dan it's ever gonna make you happy you gotta leave it yeah i think you need to let it go. No, I can change it. You're gonna do a special edition? I guess. It's so egregiously bad. But it's just the trailer?

The shitty character that it's based on shows up in the movie at the end. He has like a small cameo in it. So like even if you watch that movie thinking, well, at least the real life person saw some kind of sense of justice. No, he's still rich and he's in a Martin Scorsese movie. No, he got paid. He got paid. And he got played by leonardo di caprio like he just looks sexy as hell in the movie yeah don't watch it don't watch it i'm sorry it's all right but maybe you're gonna have to i know

no you're gonna watch number seven number seven is gonna be good that's uh how the rhyme goes wolf of wall, never good. The seventh viewing is very good. Okay, yeah, that is a lot of rhyme. That'll chestnut. Do you guys have answers to this question? Or should I just, like, check out and watch Wolf of Wall Street? So I've been thinking about this.

I don't know. So I don't watch, I don't, like, do a lot of rewatch movies unless it's like, I really want to watch this movie don't like do a lot of re-watch movies um in term unless it's like i really want to watch this movie that i like um or a lot of like oh this is on tv so i'm gonna watch it because i don't have tv i've got like hulu and some things for streaming but i don't have uh just like tv put on the tv have something on the background um so my i guess my technical answer is like a bad star wars movie um that I don't enjoy. And I don't even like picking it apart or making fun of it.

It's just like, all right, wash over me. Give me that Ray Palpatine goodness. Just like let it. And the only other answer I could really think of is like an Independence Day or like a Batman Forever. Which is like, I know this is bad. i'm not even enjoying how bad it is but like i started it um actually okay so this isn't all right who cares but so who cares um one so like i'll uh rewatch shows sometimes uh and like partly for like white noise have something on in the background like i'm gonna watch this to do some chores and stuff uh community is one of them uh that i revisit every once in a while um and i will still watch season four the bad one the bad one the really bad one

like not even like oh that's not very good it's it's a it's just bad um It's not enjoyable in any way to watch it. I know what happens in it, so I don't need to, like, catch up on the drama or the plot. It's just bad zombie show of the show I actually want to watch, but I won't skip it because something's wrong. And that show specifically, like, you can skip that season. It's designed because it was, like, harman did a few seasons then he got fired then they did a bad season then he came back with like a specific he came back as someone who didn't watch or like the zombie season so like yeah if you want it to be a gas lead to watch that

yeah you don't you gain nothing um they you don't it doesn't matter that Britta or Troy dated. Nothing matters from that. But I will just keep it on. Because you gotta watch a lot of things. I get that with any show that I rewatch. I'll always start with the episodes that I want to watch. And then it's like, alright, well I guess this means I have to watch season 2

of Friday Night Lights. Right. Season 2 of Friday Night Lights is like a quintessential example of that you'll know it's such a bad bad season of television and like it just feels canonically like well if i'm gonna do the whole thing i gotta do the whole thing yeah even though in your mind you're like you know what happens it's like it doesn't it doesn't matter i gotta see it i gotta see landry cry every single episode the funniest character on the show i need to see him crying it just doesn't feel complete um it's like it's it gives the sense of like um uh did you turn the stove off when you left your place it's like

this is like i gotta finish it or this is gonna stay in my brain it scratches a very unhealthy itch for you yeah it's not good I don't support it, but I will watch it next time too. I watch a movie regularly called Any Given Sunday. Football. Cody, I wouldn't expect you to know this movie very well. I'm familiar. I've seen it once, but I will not watch

it again. Pretty sure it's Oliver Stone. I can't explain what's so compelling to me about it. It would show up at gyms sometimes while I was at the gym and i would watch some of the gym and then wait for a commercial after i finished my workout so that i could rush home and finish the rest of it i don't like this movie that's that no i get that though like that's that's why i kind of couldn't think of like a specific a specific movie because that's just an impulse I have. Like,

okay, I've watched, I've watched like the first act. Well, I have to finish all, all the movie because I started it. It's the same compulsion where you're like, you start a book and you're like,

this book is bad. It'll take me a while to finish this one. And like, you're just not, you're going to stick with it. I, any given Sunday is like, the thing about it is that even though it's a bad movie,

there are cuts about every two seconds in that movie. And like, you're checking in on everything. Like there's pictures in a room and you're going to see those for a little while during an argument. And like, it's like watching a fire is the only way I equate, the only thing I can equate it to. We're like, I'm not getting anything out of it, but I'm not going to look away from it. I'll watch this forever.

So here's, I wonder if this will be fun. Here's what I know about any given Sunday. Oliver Stone, Al Pacino, Jamie Foxx, football, Jesse Spano from Saved by the Bell, Elizabeth... Yes! Berkeley? Hurley? No, Banks? Banks. No, it's not. Berkeley or Perkins?

Berkeley. It's Berkeley. It's Berkeley. I was right the first time and I'm not proud. Elizabeth Berkeley. Cameron Diaz. I said not proud. Elizabeth Berkeley. Cameron Diaz. I said football already. Football again. I think that's all I know about that movie. Some sort of box eating, right? There's a lot of scenes

where they're watching the games down there. Oh, I thought you said box eating and I was like, I don't think that's the same movie. Al Pacino just goes for it. That's some other movie probably. Elizabeth Berkeley. the same movie. No, no, no. Al Pacino just goes for it. That's some other movie, probably. Elizabeth Berkley. There it is. Yeah, you're right.

I am a slow typer. Okay, so this does not bode well, because my question was, what's the movie about? Oh, okay. So it's a fictional NFL team. And I don't even know if it's NFL. It might be like a lower level football team. And the quarterback gets hurt. He's an old guy.

It's like the team just like moves on from him. So he's dealing with that. And the young new hotshot quarterback is kind of a, he doesn't play by the rules. I mean, he plays by the rules of football. But he's, the team doesn't respect him. They're not blocking for him. And like, he's all about himself.

He's not about the team. Then there's a couple of other little like through through lines of like ella cool j is the running back and he's uh too big for his britches um there's there's a lot going on and then the coach also and uh who's al pacino who uh finally unifies them all like he's the one who he's the glue of the whole team he gets them all together these these guys who are all playing for themselves and he's like no life's about a game of inches look at your brother next to you that you'll see a guy there who's willing to go that inch with you and uh it's it's just dog shit um it's it's a really bad movie at one point like there's a player so they they also try to like uh show you how violent football can be

and how these are like our modern gladiators and what we expect of them. But they do it in a way that doesn't make any sense. Like there's one guy whose eyeball falls out on the field. This guy picks up his own eyeball in the end zone. And the shots that Jamie Foxx takes as the quarterback are like each one of them are a car crash. Like, it's just him

breaking his neck over and over again. That's why I remember that because it's all over stone. So it's a lot of like, like you were saying, like they stay on shots for a while

or like there's a lot of like sound design going on. And I remember just a lot of like, just football players as like banging into each other

in these quick, is that? I think it's that movie? There's a lot. Yes, that's the one that transitions a lot in scenes and stuff like all right we're gonna like pound some guys together and then move on yeah it's and they you're just like there's a lot of swing pans to like the side of the field there's just action action action action and it's all so highly

stylized and polished it's like a some sort of algorithm figured out your bliss point and like doesn't matter if there's plot or anything like you you're just watching this thing happen. And it's, it's like, it's stimulating enough that you're just staying with it. It's very funny to me that they're knocking out eyeballs because you don't have to go far to find like examples of football being dangerous. There's a whole thing about it. Compound fractures.

People are getting in their knees and things like that. But they're like, let's do an eyeball. I've seen an eyeball. Right. That's so weird too. Like you're like the eyeballs, like you're very close, like anat let's do an eyeball. I've seen an eyeball before. Right, that's so weird too. Like the eyeballs, like you're very close,

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This is a quick question. What? What are some things that you notice that are you're online regularly i noticed uh what are some things that you notice that are only true online like it does seem like it can be occasionally like a a snapshot of society uh distilled online but occasionally things show up online that are just true there like there are things that happen on twitter i'll give you an example where every few months, everyone decides they hate some classic book.

Everyone's just like, you know what? Moby Dick sucks. And then everyone jumps on, piles on about how much Moby Dick sucks. And that's not true. Infinite Jess is a big one. Oh yeah, of course. That's not even like...

It's a slightly different impulse, I think, there. But the Moby Dick thing, I specifically remember exactly that happening. A Catcher in the Rye will show up in there a lot. Just these books that are tried and true classics. If you have the right teacher, you have the right tools with which to examine it. You're like, there's a lot going on here. It's very complex. It's a good story.

People just all of a sudden decide how much they hate it and then they view it through the context of a lens of things they learned yesterday in terms of like uh how we should treat other people and like the book's obviously outdated for that kind of thing uh mark twain is a great example of that and uh when you view it through that lens it's very easy to just like pick it apart and be like, fuck this thing. And people just love to jump on that bandwagon. Yeah, that's kind of related. Like it's that, because you can read a book

and you can talk about the symbolism of a book and the imagery going on and what they're trying to say and also talk about the context in which it was written um that's actually enriches the experience of reading a book um and talking about it um so all the things it's very it's always fascinating to me when something like that happens because the conversation is always like this is the kind of conversation that would happen in a classroom and you're mad that you're having the conversation yeah right like you're mad that you're talking about these things as if that's not part of the process and part of the point like that's part of reading something um and it's always uh slightly related it's always like

comparing that to like young adult fiction yeah um there's a weird uh fetishism of like young adult fiction uh and like the like Hunger Games style stuff not that specifically but like a maze runner and stuff like yeah that kind of thing where it's like this is like real stuff they talk about real stuff like yeah they talk about it on the surface because it's for children like the things the the ideas being explored are being like explicitly said via the plot and the characters which is why it's not really studied in great detail because you don't need to because they say it

because it's not like literature um that old saying say don't show yeah exactly just like say what the characters are and what they want and why they're doing it and like what they mean and what they're for from my're doing it and what they mean and what they're for. From my favorite book, The Eventually Dead Gatsby. Right. It's like a weird childish thing. The Gatsby is a great example where it's like, Gatsby actually sucks.

Yeah. Right. Have you read it? That's the fucking thing about Gatsby. That's the point. Just about how much rich white people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. rich white people. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yes, exactly. Yes. I wonder what he meant by that. Like it's just so much of it is that is the discourse of like people realizing these things and then like talking about them at length and being like, if you wrote that as a paper, the teacher might be like, that's a good point. What does that lead to?

What does that make you feel? What does that make you think of? It's anger about thinking about stuff. Yeah, it's pissed off that this thing isn't gone already. Like, no, we decided it's bad. Get it out of here. Let's burn it. There's something that.

Oh, go ahead. Talk about why it's bad. That's fine. That's part of it. That's part of it is talking about why it's bad that's fine that's part of it that's part of it is talking about why it's bad now something i mean everything about twitter has gotten worse in our lifetimes uh except for the beginning parts of our lifetime when twitter didn't exist but there's there's something that uh used to happen every once in a while on twitter that i just loved that has

completely gone away whenever uh the subject of like usually some piece of visual art like a painting or something or a statue or architecture some normal bozo like you or I would post a picture on Twitter of just like I really like this painting or I really like this statue all right here it is his face is His face is funny to me. And other people would retweet it or like it. And then some fucking hero would come out who was like, I see we're talking about statues. Well,

I've been studying statues in college for 19 years. And I've been silent. And now I'm allowed to talk to you about what's great about this. And they give you genuinely fascinating insight because it's someone who's got an expertise in this thing. And they've never had an opportunity to like show it off to anyone. And if they're tweeting about art and statues all day, no one gives a shit.

But this is something like you'd watch an expert jump onto something that had already become viral. And it wasn't like an armchair quarterback or uh uh an armchair political theorist or an armchair comedian it was a person who's generally like oh like i i see you really like this this painting well you'll probably be really interested to learn more about the artist renoir or whatever uh renoir that's a painter right yeah who cares but it was like someone who was genuinely like passionate and knowledgeable about something would come out and like the rest of twitter just like sat and was like cool i'm happy to learn about this thing it's that we don't have that anymore i don't know if they were scared off or well it's that flame

that neil degrasse tyson is like trying to reclaim over and over again in a way that's very pedantic and annoying, but like, uh, you're absolutely right. Like there was occasionally they do it with their, like a movie or something. And somebody would come out of the woodwork and be like,

you know, it's actually very exciting. Like a shit movie, but they would come out of the woodwork and they'd be like, you know, what's actually interesting. They've, they've,

they've, they provide some insight into why like that aspect of the movie is actually really kind of cool. And like that they did work very hard on the math of it or whatever it is and you're like oh it always started with the dummy's appreciation of like this shot in this movie was cool and then someone was like oh uh you know he invented he had to invent this new style to film to get that shot to make that uh accomplishable and then you get to see like you know a person with... Yeah, here's the process of this and this and this.

Total, not total, but, like, an academic's knowledge of a subject given to you in, like, this fun Twitter thread PowerPoint thing. Right, it's not like, yeah, some, like you were saying, like, it's not Eric Garland being like, all right, fuck love, fuck nuggets,

like, doing his, like, bullshit. It's like, no, hello, I know everything about this one thing. Yeah, it's always some guy who's like, all right, fuck love, fuck nuggets. He's doing his bullshit. It's like, no, hello. I know everything about this one thing. Yeah, it's always some guy who's like, oh, you like tea? Well, I've been studying it for my entire life. I'm going to tell you something interesting about it, and then I'm going to go back to being anonymous forever. I was like, good.

That's what, yeah. Yeah, everyone's that guy now, though. Kind of related, it's not, it's always, it's not, people don't do that anymore with the movie shots even because most of the uh at least what i see most of like oh this is the best fucking shot in cinema it's always marvel movies now it's something i don't understand these days where it's like it's this weird like gray scale. Like maybe there's some blue in there. And it's like a wide shot of like Tony Stark in a battle. And it's like this is fucking this is the height of cinema. And it's like not they're not doing it ironically.

It's like this literally like. Yeah. Look at this shot. Yeah. You know if you pay attention to like the frame. It's got Captain America, Thor and Iron Man in it. They're basically the big three. Yeah.

No. Right. in America, Thor, and Iron Man in it. They're basically the big three. Like, yeah, no. Right, and it's like, it's usually like, the actual image is usually like a screenshot of like a YouTube video so it's like extra grainy. And it's like, it's just interesting. It's kind of in the same way of the

young adult fiction where it's like, you're you're you love this because it's on the surface. They're very obvious about the things. You can like, it's like you're you're you love this because it's on the surface they're very obvious about the things you can like it's like uh like what civil war it's like oh look at captain america's on one side of the screen and and tony stark's on the other and they're fighting each other because they're against each other yeah that's how you'd frame that shot if that were happening in that movie like it's there's nothing deeper going on right um but there's i think a drive to find that kind of stuff right like people want to be like this is like

have you ever thought about this in this context like well that doesn't necessarily work you're just it's like uh it's all it's almost like a it's like a uh uh like post post post cracked where it's like have you ever thought about this and this way and this way and this way like all these layers like well you're just thinking too much just like calm down it's fine you can just like stuff it's okay i've i've seen people who uh like there was a a gift someone shared of a scene from the breakfast club where all the characters it's when they know um principal vernon is on their case and they need to get back to the library and quick and there's a scene where they

run down one hallway and you see them all sort of slide into frame all of them realize we can't go down this hallway and they all have to run back the other way it's a fun scene and someone like took that gift and was like look at this the brainy character he stumbles because he's like nervous and anxious and if you look john bender he's like not too shaken up by it like every character does the thing that their character is supposed to do and this person a they're the first person in the world who noticed it and b thinks it somehow was not planned like they just think the universe gave them this or or it's like right now if you look closely he's like no don't look closely someone wrote a script and then the director was like play the scene this way

yeah and the actors made choices like the actors like i guess what this is i know what this character is like right andy michael hall thought like, that would be weird if my character did a perfect backflip into the scene. So I'll just act like a nerd would act. What if I lean into the character I'm playing? That's something that is, it's all related to what we've been talking about this whole time, actually. Like,

it's just this, it's a drive to like point out stuff like that and be like, I noticed this and you didn't notice this. I noticed this. But also it's because movies are like point out stuff like that and be like i noticed this and you didn't notice this i noticed this but also it's because movies are like not like movies there are good movies out there but like a lot of like just mainstream movies that are made and the popular ones like fucking marvel movies are really simple um and uh on the surface and so it people aren't necessarily used to like watching like like like um like like comedies these days like an old school or like not these days it's fucking 29 motherfucking years ago uh how old am i but like uh like comedies these days like uh like a judd

apatow thing or something like that it's like well yeah that's a different kind of movie movies used to be like that we're like okay i'm embodying this character and as the director of the movie I'm going to plan this shot out. And comedy specifically these days, but in general that kind of thought doesn't necessarily go into it. So people don't notice it in movies these days. And when

we watch old ones, we're like, oh wow! They actually did their fucking jobs! Look at the actors acting and the director directing the script that was written for this. Instead of just like, all right, we got to get this shot because the sequence is going to happen. We got the graphics team is already working on the fucking battle from last year. So we need to make sure that it matches up with this. Instead of like, I am going to make a 90 minute piece of art for people to enjoy. and we don't yeah we just don't have as much of

that or we do and just like people are lazy i don't know what was your question did we stray from it there's a oh so yeah a little bit but go ahead i've got i think i've got an actual answer to uh just like a uniquely online thing i think yeah something's only true in the online universe yeah um and this is not uh necessarily like nobody does this in real life but it's it's very it's very prominent online and it's always funny to me it's just like just horny people and not and not like i know yeah and it's not like um like oh there's like sex workers account or like this is like they're pushing their only fans or like anything like that it's just like a person just being like i need to get choked and have someone spit on my mouth yeah this is

the online the first time i've heard people say like rearrange my guts or like i hit my back yeah i'm like right whoa like yeah and like it's the kind of thing where it's like we don't walk around in malls and shout these things like it's the kind of stuff where it's like maybe and like like in a like a group of friends right like okay like with like five close friends and we're like talking about being really fucking horny or something but like it's not a public thing that we do um and twitter's definitely brought that out i'm just like you know they're they're tweeting about movies they're tweeting about politics they're tweeting about their day and suddenly they're like i just need to get fucking blasted let's not that's that's not that's different than the others

that's new to society it's funny how um unless it's like a politician who's being horny we don't like it it's funny how it almost immediately the internet has decided to embrace that thing as as something great i'm sure I sound prudish by not jumping on that bandwagon, but someone will just tweet like, oh, you know what sucks is I woke up today and Timothy Oliphant wasn't fucking me up the ass, and everyone's like,

brave! I was like, I don't know. If someone shouted that at school, I would be concerned. Now I need to think about, like, yeah, what are you putting out there? It is brave, though, in a way. In its own way. In its own way.

Yeah, I guess. Posting is brave in general. I'm sure we all sound very British to a lot of people, but it's very startling. It's just very jarring. It's very jarring to see. And I think that's the point of a lot of it is like, people are like, no, like this is a really funny,

this is objectively funny, but some people are not joking at all. It's just like, they're just, and we have a term for it. It's horny on main. Like that's, it's just,

I don't even necessarily have like a problem with it. It's just like a thing that is true. And, and think a thing that we do now as a society, specifically online, when we're uh posting as ourselves like yeah we would present ourselves in real life um and like go for it that's fine um you know we all get we all get horny it's just uh it's just interesting yeah that's i guess all

i'm asking for is like what are these interesting things like there's one that i don't know i don't know what to do with i I'm sure it's fine. But everybody online is very casual about fantasizing about dying. Like everybody, a lot of the jokes are about like how much better life would be if it just didn't exist, if they were dead. And I'm like, do you really feel that way? Is this a call for help? It's that collective misery I think we all log on to participate in, right? Yeah.

Like, oh, everyone fucking sucks and so do I ah Everything is bad, and then you're like what if we were all dead that would be great What if you're all fucking and then we died that would be even better Expression of that just like collective despair. I've certainly noticed This person used to tweet about stars. What is going on right Right. I'm waiting for Neil to be like, I just want to get your ass fucking destroyed. You know who I like? Lisa Kendrick. Yeah.

The things I would do to her. Very different, but spot on. Neil deGrasse Tyson. Really, both of you came with your impressions. Ah, here we go. Here's my favorite star been working on it for a while it's uh i've certainly noticed uh and this is a uh i'm certainly a pot calling kettle black here the opposite of horny on maine with like

the internet has collectively 100 of the population awkward, nervous, doesn't fuck, no one knows what to do at parties. It's it's it's annoying. Like comedically it's like we those jokes have been done already and we're not adding anything new to that

discourse. Realistically it's also annoying because it's like objectively not true. And like discourse realistically it's also annoying because it's like objectively not true and like I don't want to call anyone specifically out but like 100% of us can't have crippling social anxiety that makes all of us incapable of talking to people right right people do talk in person we used to all the time uh a year and a half ago um yeah um i think that's uh it's uh it's both right because they're like there are people with that like yeah crippling social anxiety and it comes in surprising forms you know like all that stuff

going on i'm gonna just pull someone very famous but like just because you are as famous as chrissy teigen or you look like chrissy teigen doesn't mean you might have been confident your entire life there's a chance that the person that you think is confident and popular also struggles with these things that's that's yeah exactly yeah yeah but a lot of it is just like me too right ah parties are bad i hate parties all right i want to be home eating Doritos with my cat. I hate drinking, talking to my friends. That's also my,

that's, that's our Neil deGrasse Tyson. It's just evolved a little bit. Oh yeah, yeah, no, he's, he was tweeting that too.

I'm way, I'm way like just the idea of Neil, just like tweeting, like any other person. I'd like to see that. Although to be fair, I don't know what he tweets like now these days I think he's still doing stuff like debunking movies that he doesn't they think like still still talking about gravity and stuff and you're like we don't care man I would love if like every week

he's still like fires one off about the movie gravity he's still very hung up on gravity and those and the uh the the constellations in Titanic just Gravity be like okay Neil I'll change it. I'll fix it Special gravity special edition here you go. Here you go. It's new. Yeah, we're we're reshooting it here Neil you can direct it It's your movie now do you do any, I did it. It's your movie. I did your note, and so now Gravity, the movie, didn't happen. Is that better? Right, right.

We pulled the movie. You can't watch it now. So last Saturday night, you didn't watch Gravity. Was that better than the night you watched Gravity? Right, right. You go to watch Gravity every single week to get mad about it now you don't have because i was thinking about it i i would like to see um i like to see neil uh tyson i i think it's about a few like people uh like public figures i would like to i would like him

to write a novel um and like or like a screenplay i want to see his movie right because he complains about all the times like well this this this and i want to see his movie that's boring as fuck um where nothing happens but it's very accurate yeah um like uh because uh uh carl segan uh wrote contact the movie um it really like like it tells you everything you need to know about like what he thinks about like space right and like where here's our place in the universe and like got a lot going on there

and I want Neal's to be like I want Jack on the deck of the Titanic being like Rose look those stars are accurate and she's like that makes me horny for you good movie Neal and he's like well I'm dead and she's like that makes me horny for you like good movie Neil he's like well I'm dead she's like well at least I can look at these accurate stars that sounds

very much like a movie I would watch at the gym and then rush home to catch the rest of them just cuz I hate it so much to make honestly we're all trying to make a movie that people cannot not watch after they watch a scene at the gym uh well i think uh we're about wrapped up here dan you have any other questions okay well then i'm gonna go shoot i should have kept these close by um i have all of our our information about um where to follow us on twitter everything, but I keep it in my attic still. I think it's with the Christmas stuff. I'll go look.

But in the meantime, Cody, I want to give you a chance. When you were fired from Cracked, on your way out, someone said a very insulting thing to you. Do you remember what that was um i remember uh my exit interview uh being asked what i did at the website just real really real valued employee at cred.com i believe the phrase was so what did you do here? Because it was like

because the tone all day was like it is a bad day for everybody here and I'm here to make you feel better. So what did you do here? Could have asked somebody else before going into that room but it's fine. It's fine.

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See ya.