Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - QQ ep 86 -The Teacher's Pet

Episode Date: April 23, 2021

Another episode! Ollllll number 86! In this ep the guys talk about the stuff they want to ask rich people, Dan share's some fun trivia about Don Johnson and then we get in to hanging with our old teachers.  And as always, big thanks to our sponsors! Thanks to Hello Tushy.  10% off + free shipping HelloTushy.com/qq . And thanks to Honey.  Shop with confidence — get Honey for FREE at JoinHoney.com/qq

Hello, Gun, and welcome to another episode of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, the podcast where two best friends, former internet idols, and current comedy writers separated by 3,000 miles assemble and update each other. So you might say we muster and catch up. I am one half of that podcast. Forgot to fill in this part. Daniel O'Brien, joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Soren Bowie. Soren, God damn it.

No, it's great. Keith at all. No, it's great. Keith at all. No, I love the mustard and ketchup. It's gold, first of all. Also, you started with hello, a gun. It threw me at first, and then I thought, you know what? I like that.

Yeah, what happened was I am being mugged currently, and I only lost my cool a tiny bit. You could barely tell. Don't listen, because I didn't want to interrupt the flow of the show, because we record and release the episodes live. Yes.

So we can't take anything back. So a guy came into my apartment, tried to mug me, and I seamlessly, almost seamlessly, wove it into the intro to the show. I don't say this enough. You are a consummate professional.

Thank you. I'm sorry for this enough. You are a consummate professional. Thank you. I'm sorry for all your losses that you're suffering. It's true you don't say that enough. I'm going to say it a few more times throughout this podcast just to kind of catch up. Thanks. Hey, there's catch up. How's everything going with your,

you know, we never really talk about on this show. We always mention that we're television writers writers but we almost never talk about that and i imagine if that's what drew you to this podcast you'd be very frustrated i imagine you would what good there was like yeah there's a guy from last week tonight and a guy from american dad what do they talk about fucking twitter mostly i guess i don't know talk about being lactose intolerant a lot did a whole episode on beowulf different translations of beowulf that's right we did translations episode hey i like this podcast all of a sudden um i know right it just feels i it feels very like for not only inside baseball but also kind of head up our own asses to talk about yeah our jobs so frequently i i so i'm

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Go to joinhoney.com slash qq. Let's move on and get into the show where we ask each other questions and give each other answers. I gotta, um, I'm gonna break form and not ask you a quick question. Okay. It's a long question. Okay. Is that okay? Yeah, I love it.

It's a long question, and it's like a nesting doll of questions within questions. You know what? Point of order. We do this all the time. Our show is almost exclusively these. It should never have been called Quick Question. Is that true?

We do a lot of preface. Do you go on tangents? Do we? Is my manner of speaking for my entire career, perhaps like a sentence that then leads to a parenthetical within the parenthetical, there are brackets and no one's ever quite sure if those brackets close. And then we sometimes revisit the parenthetical and it looks like a new

sentence has somehow started within the parenthetical before we even revisit the original sentence. Is that true of me, do you think? You are the infinite jest of humans. That reference is lost on you, isn't it? Only bros like you. That's the... So my question is um if you if you could ask one question of

successful people let's say you got a podcast where you get a rotating group of people who are at the top of their field mostly writer comedian movie people like actors like yourself uh they're very successful and you could ask them one question do you have one that you would ask i mean i gotta think about it for a second you have one uh i do have one right yeah yeah that's one i i i think about a lot. And the question would be, do you still have to do this? And it's obviously a question that I'm asking because I'm thinking about it all the time. It's a money question.

Like there are some people, like I feel like I wouldn't ask Tom Cruise, do you have to keep making movies to afford your lifestyle? Because I think I know the answer to that question. Yeah. No. And if I asked him the question,

do you have to keep making movies? I know the answer to that question. Yes. I'm Tom Cruise. I have to keep making movies forever. It's my favorite thing in the world to do. I love it. That's what I imagine his answer

is some excited version of that because he just sort of oozes i love this this this job so much and i never want to do anything else um but i think about successful people who are not tom cruise quite a bit like i'll think about someone like ken marino who has been working in comedy as a writer, director, performer for most of my conscious life. He was one of the founders of the state, and he's behind Wet Hot American Summer. Star of Party Down. Star of Party Down, that's right. Creator of shows, star of shows,

director of movies, writer of movies. Plays the professor on an episode of american dad oh great that's some nice synergy uh he i every time i see him doing something new i'm very excited that he's doing it but i also wonder if he needs to and i and I guess I have that question of anyone. I have it of like Craig Finn of the Hold Steady or any other, you know, name another band. Surely someone could name a band. Surely you get two people who have existed in the world for over 30 years could name a second band. Okay, well, so it's Craig Finn're gonna ask dean ween he still needs to play

guitar doing this yeah because like if you because i think my relationship to the creative work that i've committed myself to uh is is shifting a little bit. Where, like, I'm not at a point where I could just stop writing this show right now. I still need money to live, and I'm going to keep doing it. And I don't, because I've never, I haven't reached a point yet where I've made so much money that I could retire

from working, working working I don't know if if I actually would but I'm very curious about people who in my brain probably don't need the money anymore and if they yeah like when did that happen you know Ben Affleck when did you when did you when did your financial advisor say you know you don't have to work another day in your life period you you made a lot of money being a movie star for a couple of decades and now you've got a lot of passive income because you own production studios and you're making residuals from things your money's making money you got points you'd never have to work again. But at what point was that? And then what was the conversation that

you have with yourself of, well, I'm going to keep doing it anyway. Right. Is it, is this something you can live without doing? Yeah. Um, that's a really good question. I think that if I'm certainly in no position to be like quitting a job anytime soon, because I'm, I'm not that wealthy. But I did think when we when I was at Cracked, I was very excited because we were writing and we were performing. And I always thought when I back in the days when I wanted to be an actor, I was like, Yeah, but I also want to be a writer. Like, is it? Is there something I could do that's both and found a job like that? And then when I left Cracked, I was very concerned about the fact that I would no longer be acting at all and performing. I probably wouldn't be doing standup. I wouldn't be doing sketches. And

part of me was like, I don't, I've never been in a situation where I just gave all that up. I wonder if I can. And the answer was resoundingly, yes, you can. It was very easy to just not do it anymore. There are aspects of it that I miss, but I still, I would never go back to it. I'm like, no, no, no, this is great. What I'm doing now is very great. It's satisfying me. So I don't know.

I think it's also, you got the issue of as soon as people retire they die generally because they don't feel like they have any sort of um they're not necessary relationship to the world anymore at least that's the way it feels and that it's that's maybe an unhealthy relationship that we have to our jobs in the first place that that's where we get our sense of um accomplishment but i i don't know i think that it's i think once you gave it up you probably be like oh yeah you know this is fine but in the moment you're like no i can never give this up it's everything it's everything to me it's tough because i can't tell if i've if if humans are designed a certain way, if I'm designed a certain way,

or if I've been brainwashed because I was born into a world that was ruled by capitalism. And I was born into a world where it's weekdays are for school and then later jobs. And you do these things so you can have the weekends. And then you expand that out to, you do your jobs, you can have vacations and expand that out to you do your job so you can have vacations and

expand that out to you do your career so you can have retirement. And that feels very natural, but it was also the thing that we were all born into. So I'm not even really sure if that's conditioning or not. Or if someone just said tomorrow, there's a new system, guess what? Money's not real. You don't have to do anything. I think there's still a chance that I was like, okay, great. Well, I have a writer's meeting for last week's night, so I'm going to go and do that because that's what I want to do right now. But I also don't know. Maybe I want to go scuba diving.

Right. I think I bring up scuba diving because I've been thinking a lot about this very silly person who was like a millionaire, if not a billionaire, that we both knew because he owned a company that we worked for. One of the many owners that we had when we worked together. Big flashy guy, drove silly cars, really liked the idea of knowing supermodels and knowing famous people yeah just dropping names yeah yeah and and and he like his clothes were expensive and he liked to tell you that and he liked to he liked that he lived in malibu he liked surfing he liked taking trips he liked helicopters all these things that he was like bragging to me about when i was 22 years old and i remember being 22 and thinking what a silly stupid man you don't make anything you're not like creating

anything you're not doing anything you're trying to impress a 22 year old which is absurd and and you're you're just this this this big goofy thing running around taking pictures of supermodels on your phone and then showing them to people. And that's not a life that I want, that specific thing, but I also think this is a guy who made so much money that all he does is like fucking cartwheels in the sand.

And I think the things that he likes are stupid, but I don't know, he doesn't. Right. Yeah, he's just like living living he gets to actually live his life as opposed to he's grinding it out every day he would wear board shorts to meetings sometimes but like that he's he seems very happy he seems very content in who he is i don't i don't know i as a as a parent i've started to my perspective has shifted it's like the need to get something out on paper the need to write has really dissolved a lot like

i write now for my job and i enjoy doing it when i do write but i shouldn't say that i enjoy writing when i've just finished writing something. Yes. Yeah. But like, that's not, I do look forward to the day where I don't have to do that ever again. Like I, I like the idea of spending time with my family or like doing things on my own that are just mine and that I'm not being paid for anything like building furniture and things like that. I'm the idea of retirement is still very attractive to me i'm not terrified of it yeah i'm i'm not either and i and uh i apologize if i i was misleading and made it think that i am i'm i'm no i lean more towards like let's let's all retire now and then figure out what we want to do. And it might turn out that what we want to do is work. Right.

But like we won't know until we wipe out all money. That's what the podcast is about now, so aren't surprised. There's not a better podcast to say it because what are we doing this podcast for? I think I would like to ask them, do you drive your own car? because for any celebrity that informs an awful lot about them

I grew up knowing Don Johnson and that was a man who never drove his own car he had cars but he had drivers generally if he was in San Francisco or a city he had drivers and there's a good

reason for that because if you're ever in an accident it becomes a really big issue if you get into an accident the other person sees who you are because that immediately they know you're or at least they think you're wealthy and then it's your you like the chances of it going to court becoming like a real big thing uh increased dramatically um and so a lot of people don't a lot of people with enough money like at the some tier they just stop driving themselves places and what that must be like to have to be driven everywhere that you go it's that means you're at a level also where you probably don't want to be recognized anywhere you can't walk into a grocery store where you probably don't want to be recognized anywhere. You can't walk into a grocery store and like, you can't go to a drugstore and get your Claritin.

Like you can't just pop in like a normal human being. It like becomes a real thing. When you go to a dinner party, like you, whether it's your event or not, you're stealing the thunder just by being there. or not you're stealing the thunder just by being there. And like what that must be like to exist where as a, I mean, that's why we call them stars. I think because like people can't help, but orbit around them.

Like you just have this gravitational pull no matter where you go. And it can really disrupt the rest of your life. And I'm, I want to know a lot about that. I want to know what that's like for them. That makes me wonder what, like, what is the, what we would call a normal thing that you're very excited about. Like, would Dodd Johnson get excited if he was somewhere where he wouldn't get recognized and he could drive a car? Was that like a thrilling prospect to him?

Right, yeah. What, like, normcore shit is mcconaughey super stoked that he gets to do matthew i could really see matthew mcconaughey using uh netscape or uh using an old school browser in a library and just like laughing to himself that he's in a library and like really enjoying it on a gateway computer especially i wonder for someone like matthew mcconaughey who's got such a a recognizable voice and even if it wasn't recognizable as a famous person's voice it's like kind of a silly sounding voice so i think like is it impossible for him to call verizon when his files is acting up when he's like just you know insert an impression of

matthew mcconaughey there where he wants to complain about how he can't get get something streaming on his tv and they're like oh my god matthew mcconaughey you can't get what are you trying to watch on showtime please please help me mud uh it must be impossible like there's so many daily things that are already annoying to me and how much more annoying they become if everybody you talk to along the way has to stop you and be like I know you I know who you are

right I wonder if like like Hugh Jackman orders something in a restaurant and it comes back and it's wrong and he's like well i guess i just have to sit here and fucking eat this because otherwise it's going to be on the daily beast tomorrow that hugh jackman sends back his chicken piccata and i can't do that i have to eat it and then leave a thousand dollar tip exactly yes the no matter where you go you also have to tip 300 otherwise it becomes a news story because you're a stingy asshole like you can't just get away with being a normal person anywhere in your life it's like you are a representative uh i think that would be very interesting to find out more about. And I thought that gateway always feels to me like that.

The first time I really noticed it was Don where it was like, holy shit. Yeah. I don't even know if you know how to drive. Yeah. I would really, I, I would ask all of these incredibly famous,

like the most famous people, not in a like dorky cliche. When did you realize you were famous kind of way? That's, that's, you're always fishing for someone to say when I heard my song on the radio or when I saw my poster in the movie, but like Tom Hanks, when did you realize you're Tom Hanks and you belong to the people now? Cause you hear all these, these, like everyone who has ever met Tom Hanks thinks he's the nicest person in the world. Everyone who's ever met Tom Hanks thinks he's the nicest person in the world. Everyone who's met Meryl Streep has a Meryl Streep story.

And she's not, that's not a coincidence. She's not an alien. She knows I'm Meryl Streep and Meryl Streep stories are a thing. So I need to give it to this person. And at what point did that click for you? Did you realize like, oh, I can can't just i'm not allowed to be a dick anymore if i go out the house as meryl streep i have to remember that i belong to the people now i'm i'm this heightened version of myself that exists for everyone else okay i can do that because some people you see they they they've made that trade-off and they're fine with it the hugh jackman's who

are like i have to be h Hugh Jackman everywhere I go. And then I'll go home and I'll slam the low keys on the piano. Or the actors who have chosen to go the other way where Russell Crowe is like, I don't know anybody, any shit. I'll punch a hotel clerk right now. I don't care. Right. The main thing, though, is that you can never turn off who you are. We are all of us, a lot of different people. I mean, we're whatever serves

us in any given circumstance. You know what your relationship dynamic is with your family. And it's very different than the relationship dynamic you have with your friends. Right. At work, I'm Daniel. At night, I'm the jackal. That's right. You're the jackal. Of course. Famously the jackal that's right you're the jackal of course uh famously the jackal and it's you you wear a lot of different hats and you're only allowed to wear one hat when you're a celebrity i mean maybe you have some sort of different relationship with your family but outside of that like you can't walk into a new situation with a stranger and be like well let's see what i am today you are whatever whatever they know you to be. And that's gotta be tough. I think I would also like in relationship to that,

once they realized they were famous, I'd want to know if their demographic is who they thought they'd be. Like the person that the group that they appeal to the most is like that, the fan base you thought you'd have, are you, are you,? I don't know you'd get a candid answer about this, certainly not on a podcast, but I'd want to know if they are disgruntled by that, if they are embittered by their fans, or if they're pleasantly surprised that they're so popular among old people

or whatever it is. Right. There was that Chuck Klosterman interview years ago with Morrissey where it turns out that he has a huge fan base of young male Latino teenagers. And when Klosterman like did all the research and found this was a huge part of Morrissey's demo and brought it to Morrissey Morrissey was like yeah that makes sense to me I believe that and I want to say no it doesn't shut up you're allowed to say it's weird that wasn't the plan elaborate tell us you can say you're happy you're thrilled the music connects with anybody and and

while you can't pinpoint the reason your dear your music belongs to whomever finds any kind of comfort in it but you can't just the reason, your music belongs to whomever finds any kind of comfort in it. But you can't just sit there and pretend this isn't a highly specific thing. Yeah. It must be so confusing when your demographic is not who you thought they'd be. And you can see people trying to escape their demographic badly. Like Dave Chappelle. He had to leave because his demographic was not who he wanted it to be

at all. And he was like worried about it in the hands of these people, the things he had created. And I imagine that must happen just constantly, unless you're just, it's not something you ever thought about. You became famous on accident and you're just like, well,

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I have a question for you, Dan. Yeah, I think you better ask something. I moved on. I started looking at Twitter. Oh boy, that's a bad sign. Sucks. Yeah. It's like intentionally going to sit in traffic

instead of this. It was like a very difficult thing to explain to my parents the last time I saw them. And my buddy, because I had this conversation twice recently about how if I lose a day to anything, it's Twitter. It's just parking myself in one spot and refreshing it all day. And my buddy was trying to give me the benefit of the doubt it's like well you're you know you you work for a a topical show you need to know what's what's going on in the world and you need to be aware of trends and i'm like brother i am not doing that if that's not what i'm getting out of twitter i'm not i'm i'm getting no joy i'm getting no information it's like it's a uh

it's a real thing it's a real problem i'm just staring at this thing and looking at it and it it it never stops moving so there's always something for me to look at and and like get splashed with but i gained nothing from it here i am am on it. All right, dude. Quick question. Yep. When you were in high school, also, I think college can be included in this. Did you ever hang out with your teachers outside of school? Once. What did you guys do?

once what did you guys do uh i got my sophomore english teacher to come see my band play but she waited until i graduated high school oh that's very nice of her because i was it was uh this was like the the the acute teacher and uh my friends and i would would loudly hit on her throughout throughout uh four years of high school. She was only our teacher for one year, but that didn't stop us from lusting after her for all of this time. And I was always asking her to come see my band play, which she wouldn't do. And then finally I graduated high school and she came to see us at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park. And I was like, Miss, her last name here. It was Mrs., by the way.

She was super married. But I talked to her after the show, and she was like, yeah, I wasn't going to see you when you were a student, but I can see your band now. Congratulations. This is my husband. Goodbye. now congratulations this is my husband goodbye and then uh a couple of times after that my buddy joe and i uh would meet up with her at chili's for for for

not not like dates or anything like that some meal just to catch up yeah some like thing between lunch and dinner because this wasn't a real thing like i'll have dinner with with friends and family and dates and i'll have i'll have lunch with normal people too but like in between yeah i'll split an app with my former teacher that's fine we'll go to chili's and and and i'll drink iced tea and have bottomless chips and like how's your husband still teaching soccer that's cool tell your husband um yeah i i think that that's great i think it's great that she came i'm really kind of disappointed that she didn't get very very drunk there you're no longer a student the mask

is off i you know dad i always thought you were the best one i would love it if she came to that show i was like all right i couldn't go when you were a student but i went now guys fucking blow yeah i had i was always worried about this when i was your teacher because it wouldn't be ethical for me to say how bad you are but now that you're no longer my student, wow. I mean, I would have thought over all this time you had enough practice. This is not good. Give up your fucking dreams.

Okay, this is my husband. I'm out. He's huge, isn't he? He's big. He's big and muscular. Look how much taller he is than you. Stand next to each other. Let me get a picture. You're just a boy yeah uh but i i was just the reason i'm trying to get my bearings with this

is because i think that i had a highly irregular high school experience and the teachers live the teachers lived on campus and they were required to live on campus. So you saw them all the time and they lived a kind of among the students basically. And so you had unprecedented access to your teachers, which means that they could never like shut off as a teacher. They always had to be within that role and like aware of the dynamic between them and a student. within that role and like aware of the dynamic between them and a student.

But it also meant that you understood your teachers more as people, I felt, because you were totally aware of the relationships that were forming between teachers. Adultery that was taking place was incredibly hard to hide. And these are the things that happen at any school and of course happened at our school too. And then also these friendships that you build with them as well. When I was in high school, my advisor was seven years older than me. So it's like he's just a kid himself, basically. He was fresh out of college.

My friend Max and I were very good friends with our advisor. We'd go out with him. We wouldn't go drinking with him or anything because he was fairly responsible in that capacity. But he was our buddy. And what a complicated situation that must have been for him. Every time we'd ask him questions about the women on campus, he'd be like, You know, I can't talk about that. Or to hear our stories about the girls.

Right. I have no context for your specific thing, because it seems normal within the parameters of your objectively abnormal upbringing yeah like i feel like if i was if there was a teacher who was routinely hanging out with high school students and talking to them the only thing i could think about is that high school teacher then interacting with their actual friends their own age and and how how much their friends would hate that like if one of my friends in real life right now was like oh yeah i i meet up with my students after school at fridays twice a month to just sort of like talk about life and stuff i'd be like

that's fucking crazy what are you doing don. What are you getting out of this exchange? Don't do that. It's only liabilities at that point. Yeah. I can remember going into even the cafeteria and sitting down at a table where a teacher and another student were sitting because that wasn't some meeting

like it would be at any ordinary school. That was just some people shooting the shit and sitting down and listening to my teacher tell this other kid in the mid-story about the first time he did acid on a beach and what that was like. And that was just par for the course. It's just like the way things run there. You'd also see them not just date among each other, but you'd see them bring home other dates from town because you were in campus the whole time and then you ask the campaign there was no filter from the students because we have nothing to lose so we're like asking about them the whole next day at class it derails the entire class that seems like a very unhealthy thing now that i'm an adult and i look

back on it i'm like oh that's so insane to me. Were there any teachers that were really good about having a private life? I'm trying to think. It really was about proximity. There were a couple teachers who didn't technically live on campus. They lived just off campus, like across a river. And it felt like they were a million miles away. Like they had their own life. Yeah, I feel like there must have been someone who

was like no no i grew up in a city this is weird i'm here for the job and uh you kids don't get to see who i'm dating that just did not no there was none of that they just accepted that this is the way life was oh i mean i guess there were a couple teachers that when we would we noticed like a southern lit teacher and the student advisor suddenly forming a relationship. And of course we're like, what the, what's going on? What's going on with you two? Are you dating? What's going on? And them being like, just be, be cool, please. I don't know what it is. Um, and then I tried to continue that at Occidental and I really ran into some

problems. Cause I, I, that just seemed normal to me. And then I had a teacher at Occidental who I really liked at, he was like, he was just such a cool, good guy. And he liked the classics in a way that made me very excited about them. And I would go to him and be like, Hey, we're going to watch the football at our house. Do you want to come? And our house, of course, is a college house.

So it's like disgusting. There's like somebody sleeping on a mattress in the living room. And I was like, do you want to come watch football? And he was like, yeah, maybe. And he never actually came. And I was like, man, he's a flake. But now I look back on it.

I'm like, no, he wasn't. He was trying to keep a healthy distance from a student. What a kind maybe. What a generous man. And I just didn't understand it at the time. But yeah, it was another, just chalk this up as another experience from high school that was abnormal and then messed me up forever.

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would ask us it's like are are you and jamie in love and we're like yo shut the fuck up i don't know i don't know yet man stop it i'm you're you're eight i'm 17 neither of us know what we're doing here that's like the perfect tracing of this I think is that because you're forced to be there with the kids you live there with them you only ever see the other faculty there and it's you're young too yeah so it must be very very similar to that and if I any wet hot American summer is anything to base it on it's a huge disaster oh yeah yeah summer is anything to base it on it's a huge disaster oh yeah yeah yeah we had uh man there's nothing we live for more than the salacious stories of teachers cheating on their significant others or uh starting new relationships we just went nuts for that shit and we let them know

that whole idea is really foreign to me because certainly we, it's fun speculating if a teacher is dating or sleeping with another teacher. That's like a fun thing, a rumor to start and play with based on nothing. And thinking about teachers dating, period, is like a whimsical thing to do. But we really, entering high school, felt like, well, the teachers are here because their calling is to teach students. And that's their primary directive in life. And that's what they're going to, that's surely what they spend all their time doing completely ignoring the fact that a lot of these are like 20 something people who are looking who like yeah my job is is a teacher but i'm trying to like live my life and eventually not not not teach a horny 15 year olds about shakespeare you're right the idea of them dating was like a fun thing to think about but that none of us ever really took

seriously because it's like well you know it's all this is all fun and games but obviously they can't fall in love because their their job is to teach us yeah of course you don't they're not people it was that's why it was so weird to see your teachers out in the real world when you were in like well for me when i was in middle school or elementary school because it was like no surely you just sleep at the school right um but in my case in high school they really did sleep at the school and the and we did too it's just bonkers yeah uh i think that about wraps things up for me. I just have to go. I've been recording this on my, uh, home personal computer and I have all of our social accounts that I need to share with the audience.

I have that on, on my phone computer. So I need, I need to go get that. Oh no. Yeah. And, and while I'm doing that,

I want to give you space because, uh, you're a multi-talented guy. Everyone, you're an actor famously. You're an actor famously you're an actor famously um but what people don't know about you they know you as a little actor but they don't know that you you also uh dabbled in songwriting and uh when i met you you first told me about

and then performed for me uh a song i'm not going to make you perform it now, but do you remember the song Labor Day? Yeah. Do you want to use this space to tell people what that song was about? Sure. Labor Day is a completely real song that I wrote, Labor Day is a completely real song that I wrote. And it was all about how much better I would be at giving birth than women. And how they do a really good job. And it's pretty impressive. But how I'm like 100 times stronger and I would just rule at this one particular task. I felt very left out of the,

even at the opportunity to give birth. And, uh, and then also that I would, that I would basically kick anyone's ass at it, that I would be number one at giving birth. Um, not a song that's probably stood the test of time.

Am I wrong in remembering that, that, um, part of the song was dedicated to how you wouldn't complain about it probably yeah okay i don't know i remember all the lyrics but it was like uh it was it was the verses were always like what a miracle this is um that you're doing this uh i i'm so impressed. And then the verse is all like, but come on, let's be real.

I could do it better. And yeah, I don't think, I think if I went and looked at the lyrics, I'd be like, ooh, it's a good thing we never put this on the site. I don't want this living in the real world. You can ask Soren if he has those lyrics still on Twitter at Soren underscore ltd you can find

me on twitter because i can't get off it at dob underscore inc you can find the show on twitter at qq underscore soren and dan you can email the show at qq with soren and daniel at gmail and you can find hire and praise our engineer editor producer, producer, good buddy, Gabe, by tweeting at Soren and telling him to tell Gabe he did a good job. That is the fastest way to reach him. I wish that wasn't true. About it for our show. We have a Patreon, and we're doing it.

We're really doing it, guys. If you're on Patreon, you get a thing that other people don't get once a month that's really something special i don't know why i'm i'm talking like i'm tucking myself into bed right now it does sound like you're sort of falling okay bye