Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - QQ ep 94 - Let's Play a Game

Episode Date: June 18, 2021

In this episode the guys play an awesome game picking out songs they think the other person will hate that they love.  And also Soren's family doesn't get new injuries! Hooray!  As always big thanks to our sponsors.  Thanks to Honey, shop with confidence — get Honey for FREE at JoinHoney.com/qq . And thanks to Raycon!.  Go To buyraycon.com/qq for 15% off your entire Raycon order.

So, hello again and welcome to another episode of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, the podcast where two best friends and comedy writers ask each other questions and give each other answers. I am one half of this podcast, staff writer for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver and author of How to Fight Presidents and America's Uncle Joey, Daniel O'Brien, joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Soren. Booey, Soren, say hello. Hi.

I mean, at this point, everybody knows what I do. Yeah. And it's not a lot, so that's fine. I'm just the other guy. I'm the other guy on the podcast. You'll like me eventually. Yeah. So this is another Star Tune episode where I can immediately cross it off my list

because I'm always trying to think, like, what episode would be a good one to drop people into who'd never seen the show before? Immediately not this one. And that's good. So now I know I don't need to try for the rest of the episode. And that's been very freeing for me. Good. Well, we should do that more often.

Sabotage it right from the start. And then you just know the rest of the time, I could do whatever here. Yeah. Like, I'm at the bottom. I can only go up. Let's thank Honey for sponsoring this episode. These days, it feels like online shopping is the only shopping we really do. That's where Honey comes in. It's the free browser extension that scours the internet for promo codes and automatically applies the best one available at checkout. Go to joinhoney.com slash QQ. Hey, everybody. Thank you for listening. And

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What did you watch? Old episodes of Parks and Rec. Oh, you watched television? Yeah. How pedestrian. Yeah. So listeners know that I was in Utah recently, and I flew there. It was my first time flying in a very long time.

And the experience has not changed. It's still very crowded. It's still awful. I still hate it. And now everyone's wearing masks and you're not allowed to get food or drinks on the plane anymore. Yeah, I was going to ask.

I got a flight coming up in July and I didn't understand how it works with... Are you allowed to drink your own water? Yes. And they give you, at the start of the trip, they gave us a little packet that was like,

here is a small water bottle, a small salty thing, and a small water bottle a small salty thing and a small sweet thing and that's what you get for the flight okay but you are allowed to take your mask off briefly to consume yeah okay that's comforting i guess um i think and you know i i uh was watching the news yesterday because airlines is one of the industries that they're so severely understaffed because they're there. They've opened up abruptly. And it seems like everyone had the same idea of like now that pandemic is is closer to over than it's ever been and people can start taking trips again. Everyone's doing it. Everyone's vaccinated. Everyone's's flying and airlines just can't hire people fast enough and they can't keep people because uh working for uh airlines really

sucks apparently and a lot of people just like a lot of people who are laid off or who or who quit don't want to come back and uh there have been two stories that came out of this that were very interesting to me one of them is that uh airlines are asking like their like office workers like delta and united office workers they're like hey can you get will you just come and work at the airport for a while and do like airport jobs because we just need bodies to do these jobs that's one crazy thing uh i said two but there's three a second one is a lot of people are getting immediately promoted to full-time and working like holidays and overtime so there there's there's more pay but also everyone's miserable and a

third update that will be more applicable to our listeners possibly is that uh a lot of the airlines are they stopped alcohol service on flights during covid because they were stopping all food and drink service and a lot of them are extending that process because people get drunk and belligerent on planes and that was on the rise during covid because people would be getting drunk and then uh fighting about masks yeah and so they're just like you know what we're gonna just stop serving alcohol on planes no one said that forever yet but that seems to be where the tide is going because they're just like we we it's a shitty job we can't keep people do it to to do it and one way that we might be able to entice some people back is we will remove the possibility that passengers will get drunk

and yell at them and treat them inhumanely when i don't fly somewhere it's because i fucking hate spirit and and every single airline like it not because i'm worried that at some point there might be a man behind me who will scream at a flight attendant yes but i guess that's a concern for some people uh well that's fair that they can't keep people employed i i never understand how the airlines stay in business it seems like their margins are razor thin and too big to fail they gotta have planes yeah i guess you're right. But they're constantly going into bankruptcy, right? Mm-hmm.

And then the way that they solve those problems is that they add 14 new seats to a plane that can't hold 14 new seats. Yeah. We're flying to Minnesota airline i guess i shouldn't even say the name of it but we're flying on an airline that charges uh per bag but then also charges per carry-on this is this has got to be spirit there's no way around it it's not some country it's not wow yeah i don't think they'll ever sponsor us i think we're fine if i burn that bridge pisses me off. But I'm very nervous about those flights. Well, the worst flights we ever had with Ronan was he was almost exactly

Gilly's age and it was to Minnesota. So it's a nice long flight. And at an age where a child is mobile, but doesn't understand why they're not allowed to run around. And so it, it just is this terrible, perfect storm. It's like,

it would be easier to bring, catch a wild raccoon and bring it on the plane and just sort of let it go. I mean, easier for you, it sounds like. Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Yeah. But we did try it last time. We brought these goodie bags, which I think is a really good idea. For the other passengers? Yeah, the people who sit immediately near you.

For the other passengers? Yeah, the people who sit immediately near you. You have a bag that's got in it candy, ear guards is not the right word. Ear cages. Yeah. Those little foam things you stick in your ear. What the fuck is that?

Is this really happening? Ear plugs. Yeah, ear plugs. That's the word. We have ear plugs. We put Advil in there uh as like a haha but and um we've just made these little goodie bags for the people next to us and i think it's a very ingratiating thing like the people as soon as even if your kid is screaming or whatever they'll forgive a lot more if you're like i thought this might happen i'm so sorry here and you just show some modicum of consideration to other people around you.

Because people who don't have kids, you fly near kids. I know what it's like. I used to not have children. And I was like, just don't go anywhere. Wait till your kid is 16 and then you can travel. And it's just not as feasible when you actually have them. You have to go places. You know your kid's not going to be great on it.

You know that their ears are going to pop when they take off and when they land and the kid's not going to understand what's going on and they're just going to cry and you just gotta like you just gotta mentally prepare for those three and a half hours and be like okay these will be bad i think because i've never had a really great experience flying like it's always been uncomfortable in the normal ways and sometimes uncomfortable in the abnormal ways it's just i i'm at such peace with it at this point yeah that like i can you can have a screaming baby on a flight you can have smelly people on a flight i'm just like yeah no i i knew i was prepared for an uncomfortable experience for however long this flight is six hours yeah i knew i was to have a bad time for six hours.

That's okay. I had a good time before this and I'll have a good time after this. This is the bad thing. And hopefully I'll sleep, but I bet I won't. But that's all right. Eventually this will stop. That's a very good mentality because then when you end up with somehow miraculously a seat next to you that's empty or whatever. It is like a gift from God.

Yeah. It feels so good when suddenly something goes right on a plane. You're like, we just, wait a second. We all just got on the plane and then the plane took off. Yeah. That never happens. The captain's like, guess what? Because the wind did some stupid wind thing,

I think I'm going to get us there faster. I'm like, fuck yeah. We're going we arrived 20 minutes faster okay cool i don't love that there are still surprises in the air but sure um and also having a kid you're way more attuned to how many delays and like weird shit there is when you're trying to take off on a plane because you're you're what you want to do is you don't give them a nap beforehand you even get a flight for you know you're willing to go like within 200 outside of your range to get a flight that's during their nap so that you get on the plane they're very very tired you nurse them and then they can go to sleep and then you they don't bother anybody for a long time.

And you're just another passenger on the plane. But if there's any delay at all, you're just sitting there with this cranky kid and you can't let go to sleep yet. Cause you know, everybody's going to be talking. They're going to do this, the safety protocols,

the captain's going to get on and bullshit for a while. Like all these things are going to wake your kid up. So you're like trying to keep them up until takeoff. And's the worst and then when you're in the air sometimes the captains just want to come on and do some bits and it's it's it's it's awful or the like your kid will be asleep and then somebody will get on the intercom be like okay well we want to introduce you to our flight rewards program if you get the credit card today you can see in the program in the sheet in front of you that you can get 20 off all all of your flights going forward. They're holding you hostage for this 15-minute commercial. That should be illegal. I know I sound like an old man or someone from the

past, but that should be fully illegal. You're a hostage. You're trapped. You can't- I have nowhere to go. There's nothing I could do. You pause the television. And they're just trying to sell me a credit card. Yeah. So anyway, all those things, you're hyper aware of all of them happening because you're thing i could do you pause and they're just trying to sell me a credit card yeah um so anyway there's all those things you're hyper aware of all of them happening because you're just trying to keep this child asleep and it's not gonna happen the stewardesses are you know they're making themselves heard to the person who's over by the window as they walk past and they're not they've seen enough

sleeping babies that they're like i don't care if that baby sleeps or not. Doesn't change my day. So like, they're like, do you want tea? Tea? Okay. Do you want sugar with it? And you're just like, please, just, can you just whisper? This is a crucial moment.

I will, I will relay the information for you to the person who's in the window. But it's, it's just a nightmare and i'm about to live it again my son is great now though by the way on flights he gets on the plane we have he has a little leap pad which is like a ipad but for just for children and looks at that for 15 minutes and then goes i'm tired i'm gonna take a nap and i go yes you should we you should. We all shop online. You do it. I do it. It's great. And we've all seen that promo code field taunt us at checkout. But thanks to Honey, manually searching for coupon codes is a thing of the past. Honey is the free shopping tool that scours the internet for promo codes and applies the best ones it finds in your cart.

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and every single time it was funny every time i went ha ha ha it's very good and every time it was original and uh but i was still like going through that whole thread because i thought no but seriously like at the end of the day why not this is also a frustration i have yeah because i'll have i always have bacon in the house i never make the entire package and your options are to like make it your your options are to let it go bad or wrap it tightly in foil which is which is what i do and now i'm i i'm going to have to buy more foil like i just like it's just more and more things that i have to buy that i'm very frustrated by especially because like resealable packages is a technology that exists but bacon hasn't embraced it and not all deli

meats have to and and i i i'm at a point financially where i will pay the extra money for a resealable bacon but i don't even see it anywhere well i'm gonna twist the knife for you just a little bit here do it i don't eat i don't eat pig um but i do eat turkey and i eat a lot of turkey you don't i thought you just didn't eat beef no i don't eat pig, but I do eat turkey, and I eat a lot of turkey bacon. You don't eat pig? I thought you just didn't eat beef. No, I don't eat pig or beef. When did pig happen? I don't really know. It's just I started not feeling great after eating pork.

Just red meat in general. After I wasn't eating beef for a while, pork is less often an option, and when I finally would eat it, I was like, I just don't feel very good, and so i stopped eating that too but uh turkey bacon something we eat frequently in our house has solved that problem genio uh i think a couple others they have resealable containers yeah how do they solve it with technology that's existed for a thousand years? Great. Kudos, turkey. Call bacon. It's crazy that the real bacon has it. Like somehow this little terrible offshoot, because turkey bacon does not compare to regular bacon.

But the stupid little offshoot has figured it out before big bacon. It makes me wonder if there's some actual purpose for it. Because the cynic in me would just say well they do it so the bacon goes bad faster and then you have to spend more money and buy more bacon but but then why wouldn't all meats do that right because like some deli meats do have the resealable packages so i don't think it's i don't think it could be that just a scheme packages so i don't think it's i don't think it could be that just a scheme it's dangerous to like be like whoa let's make this let's let's make a product that every once in a while could poison our people yeah could kill everyone yeah so i think there's no reason for it not to have happened

you're right uh with deli meats i don't buy just like packaged deli meat um because i'm um made of money and so what i did deli counter yeah i go to like i get the boar's head or whatever the really nice stuff is that they have over there and those ones they used to just put it in like that wax paper yeah but they don't anymore now they put it in um an actual resealable plastic bag that's right i mean i say that's right because i i have uh wealthy friends i'm a man of simple means though soren so i just i just watch them with their receivable things without coveting it's amazing that you don't covet no yeah uh but yeah it's it's that that problem has been solved too but

you're absolutely right we still if i go to the shopping late at night which i do frequently during covet i have to get the bullshit meat and uh it just what we it's such a terrible system i put it in basically whatever the plastic bag was that i brought home fruit in it goes in that and then i wrap it up like somehow that's gonna seal it yeah i wrap it around it a few times and then put it in and then you can open that bag up and the bag is all moist on the inside and a little bit wet and There have been times where I've been cooking bacon and looking at the amount that I have left in the package and it's like, well, I don't want to waste another slice of tinfoil on two pieces of bacon.

So I guess I'm making six pieces of bacon for breakfast. Jesus Christ. I won't need any eggs or anything else. I think it's just going to be bacon from here until sunset. Jackson, wake up. You're eating it too. Come on. I'm sure he will complain. This is your problem now. Yeah, I have some in my life as well. Are you done or do you have other ones? Yeah, that was all I brought today. Yeah. A tweet I saw that I agreed with. I got to put this on the podcast.

Yeah, I've got two. One that I noticed recently because I had to deal with customer service and also just filling out forms at the doctor's office like once you filled out one bit of information somewhere, that should be transferable everywhere else for the rest of that day. So like if I'm on a call and I'm in with some sort of automated customer service thing, I have to put in my information, put in my whatever the number is that associated with what I'm dealing with, what my problem is, what my name is.

And then when I get connected to somebody, I don't want to have to do all that shit again. Absolutely. One hundred thousand percent. It's the same at a doctor's office. You fill out so many forms and like schools, too. When we're getting running into applying for school or whatever it is you the first page you fill that out after that auto-generated like or they should just there should be somebody back there who says oh no once that we had that first page of information we can apply that every single

other place yeah i just the redundancy of it drives me bananas and it sets me up to be so angry at whoever i talk to with customer service because they're asking me questions that I've already answered and I'm mad. Yeah. Just like, not for them, obviously. Right. Yeah, I had that. I was trying to cancel a flight in December and call the number and talk to a person and here's my name, here's my confirmation number. And like the extra step for me is that i

have the confirmation number written on my phone so i say hold on and i look at my phone and then i put the phone back to my ear and i say it and that is already so many more steps than i wanted to have in this process of canceling the flight i'm like okay i can't cancel it because you ordered it through a third party so i have to transfer you to this other person and then i'm on hold again and then hi who am i speaking with today i god you the other person should have typed that onto a screen and then it should have showed up on your phone when i when it connected you to me you should have known that i was daniel you should have known my confirmation number because now you're dealing with someone who's angry and you don't even know why because you weren't there for that part how are you coming

in with zero prep they had to transfer you like it's it drives me bananas but they just pick up the phone and they're like hi who's this and it's like someone who's already pissed off at you i'm at an 11 okay can i just have some first security reasons can i ask a couple of questions of you no i already answered it now you have to guess now it's your job to find the information um i i had this experience too because i ordered a clippers recently like hair clippers i clip you bought um damn it what was that yeah i was gonna do a joke about how you bought the the la clippers

but then i you got in too fast with the truth no it's cool i i think it's important for people to to see this kind of behind the scenes stuff because normally the jokes flow so quickly and without any issue whatsoever so it's important that they they know that we're human i ordered hair clippers because i've been cutting my son's hair since the beginning of covid and i still can't can't, I can't take a child to a barber because he can't get a vaccine anytime soon. So I ordered new ones because the old ones were pulling his hair. And I thought maybe it was the fault of the clippers themselves that they were like running low or something on juice. And so I ordered new ones and got this set of clippers. And it was a little bit different than it looked like in the picture.

And I was like, this is weird. So I look at the model number and the model number was wrong. And I was like, oh, this is just a simple mistake. And so I contacted the company and I was like, hey, you fucked up. This is just, it's the wrong ones. It's fine. I'd love to send these back to you and get the right ones. I got passed through so many people

where I had to give the exact same information over and over on an email thread where the information was already there earlier. Scroll up. And I was so, so livid about the whole thing. And the real topper of it was that eventually I just got a notification from UPS there was a package on the way.

And I was like, oh, they sent them. And I don't even't have to send these other ones back they sent me the exact same clippers it's just my blood is boiling i had such a dad um but uh i gave up i threw in yeah that's fair i was like i can't i can't. Anyway, that's one of them. The other one that I have is I wear a lot of hats. And it's not figuratively. I don't do a lot of different jobs. I wear a lot of very physical hats. And they're all baseball caps.

And baseball caps all have a little button at the top of them. And that little button, I've probably hit my head with that button uh over 10 times in like the past year alone what do you mean you know walking into a small space trying to sit up on from underneath a table anytime that i hit my head somehow that little thing catches whatever i'm whatever i hit my head, which would have just easily been like an easy, oh, no big deal. I've barely brushed something. That button instead takes the force of the blow and concentrates it all on the very, very top of your head. You keep hitting the top of your head? Yeah. Well, oh, so. On tables that you're underneath? Yeah. It's a, I work on different planes than you. I have children. I'm on the ground a lot

or I'm down low a lot. We're making forts. We're underneath the stairs. We're doing different things where I don't fit. And when I try and get up, I frequently... I mean, this is less of a problem at home

because I don't wear a hat at home. But we would go to museums or we would go to other places, kit, the children's spaces, uh, parks. I hit my head on the, on the bottoms of structures and parks so frequently. It's, I just don't learn my lesson, but it's always somehow on that little tiny button at the very top. And it's so, so painful. And I don't think it's necessary. I think it'd be so easy to make a hat that doesn't have that thing it's like an aesthetic at this point and yeah i mean they sell get rid of chef's hats i should get i should just start wearing a chef hat you're absolutely right um it drives me nuts

well that's a solid answer i was i one that you cannot relate to whatsoever no i'm i'm on board with you like i i understand i've bonked the top of my head before so i understand that concentration of pain yeah sent straight to the top of the dome but i it took me a second to to to see things through your eyes because when you say it happened 10 times this year, I think, well, this is definitely, this is a user error. Everywhere that I walk, I lead with the top of my head. Soren's got to stop opening the refrigerator while tying his shoes. That one is, I think that's probably the, of all the things that I have in my life, that was like the one I get the most mad about. I think it is pretty regularly at parks, actually, that it ends up happening.

Because my son loves to go down underneath the structure. Like that's a big part of the game always. Where you are baby cheetahs or something like that. And so I got to crawl in these little stupid ass spaces. And the minute I lift my head, I get so angry. Yeah. At him. Yeah.

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tastes pretty well, I would say at this point. Yeah. And I know that there are certain movies that I'm going to watch and enjoy and I think, oh, but Daniel would hate this. And I thought it would be fun if today we played a little game with songs now you enjoy songs that go like you enjoy you wake up in the morning you have a whole playlist of like songs that just like get you in the mood to like start

your day and i recently came across one and i was like this is a really good one i should probably give it to dan and then as i listened to it i was like no i know for a fact that daniel would hate this song it's got all the elements that he doesn't like in music and so i didn't give it to you and then i so i thought it would be a fun game for us to play where we bring our songs that we ourselves love but we know that the other person would just hate and we see if if we're right. We want to like, this is like a guess your taste game. Yeah, I love this game. It's, I think, so much harder

than identifying a song that you would like. Yes. A song that I would love that I think you would hate. I feel, I think, better about my chances than I do about your chances.

Okay. Well, I didn't cheat here. I didn't bring the Decembrists, which I could have very easily done. Yeah, chances okay um well i didn't cheat here i didn't bring the decemberis which i could have very easily done i didn't cheat either um the reason i feel better about my chances is is that you've recommended me music before and i have liked it yeah and uh like you've made me cds that i still listen to and like you gave me uh the islands you introduced me to that band and i love them and i still listen to them and i remember one cd i made you uh i made you a steel train cd and i gave it to you and then we just never talked about it and uh i i i might have brought it up at one point

there's there's no way this is how it went down but i uh in my memory it was like hey i made you that CD. And you were like, yes, you did. All right. So I have to go find Steel Train again, because I know that I definitely listened to this at least a couple of times and then just gave up on it. I was trying to take some lessons from what I thought were essential bits of that Steel Train album and apply it to the songs that I brought today, or at least one of the songs that I brought today. That's a smart move.

I think I know you, I think, so sometimes you have some wild card tastes. Yes. So I think that these songs, while objectively good, are songs that you would be like no and not that some of it has to do with the context surrounding the song but i'm gonna start okay all right this first one is uh the the musician's name is daniel rojas and the song is called don't stop now have you heard of this song no okay it's it's from a cartoon made for the cartoon. So already I feel like I'm on thin ice with you. Like this wasn't some song like somebody,

it was a moment of inspiration where an artist was like, I have to get this on a page. Now is Rojas Spanish for tiger? I think it means feminine red. Oh. The cartoon is called Kipo in the Age of Wonder Beasts. Have you heard of this show? I've seen the word Kipo on the internet.

Yeah, it shows up on Netflix. It's a very good show. I highly recommend it for even if you don't have children, it's still a fun show to watch. And the song is called Don't Stop Now. And I would like to play it now. How are you feeling about this so far, David? You know, Soren nailed it.

So this is like a song that really pumps me up and makes me feel good. It's called Don't Stop Now, and they get into a part where it's like a, don't stop now, like all this. I'm loving it. I divorce it from the context of where I found the song. It's just like there's nothing to the lyrics, zero calorie lyrics, and I enjoy it so much. I thought, this is a great pump-up song.

Not for Dan. Can you, can you articulate why you don't like it? The singer's voice, the second they come in, it's very aggressive, uh, not aggressive,

like, like anger or anything. It's just, it's a, it's very defined style of singing. It's a choice. It's yeah. And it's,

it's, it's one that I, that, that I, I just hate. There's a, there's a lot of modern pop influences in the diction that just drive me nuts. Oh, Bullseye.

Oh, I'm so pleased. But I didn't try to catch it. I've heard it now once, seconds ago, for the very first time in my life. It's stuck in my head. It's definitely catchy, but it's stuck in my head it's definitely catchy but it's stuck in my head in like my memory is already bullying it yeah it's got like this sort of like cheerleader thing happening behind it which i also knew you would hate and all these things that i absolutely love and it's just where our venn diagram does not overlap. Man. Just you working out to that song, having a time of your life.

Yeah, really flopping kettlebells around. Couldn't you just see it? That's absolutely. That's a song I could feel like. I ran a race last week and had like a playlist with a bunch of music in my my headphones on through spotify and then when you run out of out of your playlist spotify like pulls from songs that it knows that you like and a few songs that it thinks you'll like and uh i was so sweaty that like i couldn't skip like my phone was just my phone was hot and my hands were wet so i was like i had to listen to whatever thing was coming on and uh i could see that song being

like a real nightmare for me like there were some songs that came on that i was like i guess i'm i'm i guess i'm listening to crash by dave matthews band even though that's not the vibe right now at all at mile nine of this race. But that's one. If that fucking If that came on while I was running, I'd be like, well, I'm going to just stop running. I'm going to wait for my phone or me to dry off,

and I'm going to skip this song because I can't run to this. I can't exist to this song. I would hear that song come on and I would be like, yes, carry me through. It really hurts it. I think that it's clearly a song that somebody created because they had to make it for a show too. They were just like, oh, what's like a good peppy?

Like they got notes. And then they were like, okay, I can make a song like that. Sure. Yeah. Because there's just nothing behind it. There's no art in it, but I, God, I love it. Let's play one of the songs

that I brought for you. Let's play a song called Under My Skin. By Jukebox the Ghost. Jukebox the Ghost is a band I love. Do you know them? No. Okay.

How much can you fit under your skin? How much can you fit under your skin? I wish you were dead, babe. I wish you were dead. I can fit too. I can fit too. I can fit too, people. yeah okay dude yeah you got it getting real annoyed real quick. The minute I heard the light piano at the beginning, I was like, oh, it's such a Dan song.

You like piano forward songs a lot. I like piano forward songs and I like, which is not steel train at all. And I also like, like kind of janky ass singers i don't like very pretty singers often especially when it's when it's a song from a guy yeah and uh this guy can be very pretty when he wants to um but i i he plays up kind of this odd singing and odd pronunciation style in a way that really resonates with me that i really like a whole lot but that i also thought if there's something that soren didn't like about steel train it might have been jack antonov's vocal choices which are also

very specific and very outside of the norm it's funny because we both brought in like very affected yeah like song lyric lyrically like how the person is singing and in both cases like in one i have no problem with it and this other one i'm just like it's like nails on a chalkboard absolutely um yeah he's he's doing a very effective thing and he's doing that like the lyrics are they're that you know what i would it's like reality bites lyrics is what i would call it it's like it it's so self-aware yeah uh what i don't remember what the lyrics are but like the something about dying i wish you were dead babe i wish you were dead yeah it's just so it's like not even earnest it's something else it's something where like i know this would be a good lyric and just

you don't you there's no covering the tracks you see all the work going into the song and i hate that i've been i've been really trying to to codify what i want from like lyrics and from a vocalist it's just something that i've been idly thinking about for the last couple of weeks i don't know why because at the end of the day, nothing needs to fit a code. If I like a song, I like a song and that's it. But like my brother was playing me Stone Temple Pilots because he likes them a lot. And he was like, like in his mind, every one of these songs is a hit after hit after hit.

And I was listening to it and I was like, I can't stand this singer. He's being he's just so like serious about it. But then I started to think like what do i actually want like because i i because singing music is such a silly thing and it's it's all at the end of the day very theatrical and the guy who's the stone temple pilots guy who's doing the series like thing he's he's doing that for theater because there's there's and i i respect that because there's something to embracing the the part that you're playing uh but i think the reason i like jukebox that goes more is because he's so silly and the he often uses words that you don't hear in a lot of songs and phrasings that you don't hear in a lot of songs. And I think what I like about that is some kind of acknowledgement that,

hey, it's really silly. It's very, it's like, base level insane to get in front of people and sing at them about love and about life and about, like, how you think things are. This is a really dumb thing that I'm doing, so why would I pretend to be cool about it? Why can't I just be a little like circus clown because at the end of the day isn't this dumb that i'm gonna tell you what are supposed to be like inexpressible thoughts and i'm doing it with music isn't that isn't can we all agree that this is ridiculous and now listen to how ridiculous i'm going to be to sort of uh embody that idea i am i completely disagree

the that one foot in one foot out of your of your song is like it drives me crazy it's like you're above it it's it's like you're too good for this and you're like it's you're trying to win both ways you're trying to say oh here's something really earnest but whatever it doesn't really matter look what are we doing we just we're all just monkeys up here on a stage like i don't i want somebody who's all in and uh i need that and so like that makes sense tim mentioned bo burnham like this music benfolds five like they all have that same quality we're like they're singing they're singing really good songs but at the same time they're like there's this other element to it of like yeah but does it really matter and i'm like stop that just let me like let me feel something with this song

all right what's your next song okay so we should do a thousand episodes of this this should be the fucking show it's the next song i is so i don't listen to a lot of popular music. And I don't know if this is a popular song or not. Because the songwriter is very popular. But this is something that came on my Spotify at one point. And I was like, Yes, I love this. This is really good. And then I saw who it was. i was like oh god okay all right maybe do i do i like this person's music now and then i went and tried it out and decided no i very much do not there's just this one song that i love love love and uh i know you'll hate it so without further ado daniel here is bad liar by selena gomez strong start i was walking down the street Bad Liar by Selena Gomez. Strong start. Just like the Battle of Troy, there's nothing subtle here In my room there's a king-size space, bigger than it used to be

If you want you can rent that place, call me and I'm an idiot Even if it's in my dreams Ooh, you're taking up a fraction of my mind. Ooh, every time I watch you serpentine. Oh, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying. I really like the beginning of that song. Deleted. Well, so Gabe has provided some context here.

That bass line is sampled. That's the bass line from Psycho Killer by the Talking Heads, which is a band that, yeah, you should like. That must be it. That's a, I didn't mind her voice, and I like her phrasing choices, and I liked, I loved how simple it was at the start of it.

Cause I really like stripped down pop like that. I guess like that, that Justin Bieber song, the love yourself song is very simple and a perfect pop tune. But I needed this song to do something else and it seemed like it was getting at that and that's why i let this one run i think longer than any of the other songs that we've played today it's like and then it's got to do something right and then eventually like that we we crest the top of the roller coaster and another thing happens and it just wasn't

delivering and i couldn't i couldn't give it any more chances maybe you heard maybe you didn't hear after she said every time you serpentine there's a little bell that rings oh jesus and then it and then it goes into the chorus the i'm trying i'm trying i'm trying uh and that was the thing like i don't know how when we'll cut this off for the the episode or how much you hear. But like I cut it off at I'm trying and Gabe didn't immediately cut it. And then my hackles went up. Then that, now I'm drowning at that point. You know, someone is sitting on my chest

and is like, I tapped out. You got, get off now. Get off. I tapped out. These are the rules. These are the rules. You have to go. Stop the bus.

You're no longer in control on how terrifying that is. Yeah. So I don't, I'm not a huge fan of Selena Gomez, it turns out, but this song, there's something about it

that like scratches an itch in my brain. I really, really enjoy it. When do you listen to it? The gym. Wow. Yeah. I think it's a sexy song, dare dare i say i think the lyrics are really good um she talks about like if you're the art i'll be the brush like it's like it's very straightforward

but i still think it's really well executed and then i love her voice it's so good and like said they're such good choices in the song yeah i remember i i am looking at the lyrics now because it lyrically really enjoyed the way it started i was walking down the street the other day i that's a very simple thing to say it might piss you off no i liked it i really enjoyed it because that's that's that's kind of the uh like a casual language in songwriting that we don't get all the time yeah um it's got it's got some yeah and oh i also loved oh wait that's someone else i love that that's great i never hear that in a song i thought i but then i see your face oh wait that's someone

else that's that's bernie taupin but then again no i love that stuff give me more of that shit there's also a mention of the battle of troy which i thought that i almost screamed no i love that stuff give me more of that shit there's also a mention of the battle of troy which i thought that i almost screamed when i heard that you fucking on brand goober yeah as soon as i heard that the first i was like oh tell me more saloon are you are you into um antiquity sex and death and antiquity do you know the greek ancients um and uh then there's like like when she says you're taking up a fraction of my mind i love things like that where it's like you're not like you're consuming every thought i have or anything like that it's just like it's driving me crazy like there's just yeah yeah you own this little piece of my mind it's making me mad yeah um but

i don't know what every time i watch you serpentine means i think that just rhymed and she was like it's a cool word yeah serpentine is a fun word yeah it doesn't belong here i don't think man that i'm trying i'm trying i'm trying and that like the dissension of it no this is not for me but she was she was closer but but but you you still win this by by by introduce me to a song that i will never listen to good okay now let's uh let's bring in there's a band i might have mentioned on the podcast before called this is i'm almost trolling 20 criminals this one this is almost a troll job the band is moxie fruvis no um they're one of the sillier but but one of the sillier bands I've come across, but they're also very good and talented and I love them very much.

They have since disbanded and then one of the members of the band became a pretty popular radio DJ and interviewer, but I think has disappeared off the face of the earth amid some sex crime related accusations. I don't think there are any formal charges. My dim memory of this is his defense at the time being like, look, the stuff I'm into is definitely weird and a lot of people wouldn't like it, but nothing I did is a crime. But anyway, goodbye forever. And then he was like, oh, so you don't need to support the music anymore but we're going to listen to moxie fruvis's king of spain once i was the king of spain now i eat humble pie oh my unspeakable

wife queen lisa now i eat humble pie i'm telling you i was the king of spain now i eat humble pie I'm telling you I was the king of speed Now I eat humble pie And now I work at the pizza pizza One, two, three, four Royalty, lord it look good on me Buried in silk in the royal blue Or going nuclear free. Or playing croquenole with the princess of Monaco. Telling my jokes to the OPEC leaders.

Yeah, man. That's a nail on the head, Dan. I really, really hate it. I'm almost surprised that you like it. it i'm i'm almost surprised that you like it i uh without exaggeration sing this song every single day it's on my playlist of singing songs for when i'm cooking at night it's got that yeah i just those dudes in the background doing the i just yeah see a bunch of guys in button down bowling shirts and fedoras. It feels like it's from another time, like the early nineties.

Yeah. And, well, they're from Canada. So you're half right. It just, it's, it's got that squirrel nut zipper vibe to it that I,

that I hate. I honestly didn't think this one had a chance with you. And like subject matter too, because the song is truly about what he's singing. He was the king of Spain. And then if you listen to the rest of the lyrics, he talks about what a good job he did as king of Spain. And then if you listen to the rest of the lyrics, he talks about what a good job he did as king of Spain. And then you might wonder how he came to be living in Canada,

making songs after being royalty in Spain. And it's because he did like a Prince and the Pauper thing with someone who looked just like him. Like he was king of Spain and then switched. And now that's why I'm in this band today. Like a lot of their songs are about them being the band. It's very tenacious D in that way, where they work in either Moxie or Fruvas or both in all of their songs. Yeah.

Or not all their songs, many of their songs. He vacuums the turf of the sky dome now. Yeah. He, okay. Uh, yeah,

I hate it. Um, it's got like that, you know what it is? It's this is gonna sound mean go for it it's it's inherently not cool yes yes i do not like songs that are not cool but doesn't one of your favorite bands correct me if i'm wrong is ween and don't they do like some weird dumb shit yes and i will admit also that some of ween's stuff is completely unlistenable um yeah they're very experimental and but when they get experimental they also have i don't know what there's the saving grace of darkness where like they're they get very very dark in a lot of their lyrics and it's weird stuff

like lick the mucus off my brain yeah and lyrics like a spinal meningitis got all how does that song go spinal meningitis is like a spokes spinal meningitis got you down like there's there's some weird-ass shit to it but it's all very visceral and kind of dark and for some reason for me that always saves the day yeah um because they're still serious at the end of the day they're still serious and serious is cool yeah yeah when it's like it's fluffy and it's like we're all just having fun up here and like this is all just a big game i for this there's just some part of me that's like this inner bully that's like you're not allowed to do that so where are you on bare naked ladies i hate

them i hate them because they've got some sad songs and they're they're uh yeah their former lead singer got in trouble for doing drugs and that's very serious yeah they do get a little earnest uh but i still i do not like them I don't like all the pop culture references. I don't like, it just feels that I want my music. This is, I'm going to have to backtrack, I'm sure. But I was going to say, I want my music to feel more timeless. And it, it, it always feels like an article instead of a book with a group like that, where it's like, oh, this is something very current and what's going on right now and we'll have absolutely no lasting power whatsoever man

this was fun we should do this multiple times yeah we should definitely do this again uh it's actually really fun to try to defend songs yeah that you like and try and figure out what it is about them that you're really into. It's so clear. Your style is very clear to me, Dan. I think this is good. I hate your style sometimes. Thanks, man.

I get that. Yeah. It's the Ben Folds 5 influence, I think, that I just can't jive with. Yeah, that's certainly one of the core eggs of the influence, that that's going to spread out and be everywhere. The, the weirder stuff will always be the, the dream theater side of my brain, um, which, which I didn't bring anything in like the, the theatrical Prague rock Prague metal side of things,

but that can be for a future episode to explore. Yeah. I've probably bring in some songs that are more like narrative fiction front that are like period pieces. Yeah. I know that you will despise. And I will say bring in some songs that are more like narrative fiction front that are like period pieces. Yeah. I know that you will despise. And I will say,

uh, the Selena Gomez one was closer, but the first one reminded me of more of the music that I associate with you, which, uh, and I'm not just saying this cause you said you hate my music, but I think a lot of your stuff is, uh,

repetitive, toothless nonsense. And you might not know this about me, and our listeners certainly don't, but toothless is the greatest insult I have for music in my body. Whenever I'm railing against modern pop music, I can't find anything on the radio. It's just like, all music today is toothless, and no one is saying anything.

You're not wrong. A lot of the stuff that I like the most is it's toothless. There was a band in high school that I really enjoyed called Mill and Colin. And they're foreign, but it was like a punk band and not like a real hardcore punk band like a very watered down punk band sure but they had a album called life on a plate that i would listen to every single day and the lead singer is very hard to understand and it didn't matter to me i thought i kind of understood the lyrics i thought the songs were

all very good and they meant something to me and then i looked at the lyrics and i was like these are the dumbest fucking lyrics i've ever seen but it didn't change my love for the band um a lot of stuff that i listened to it's just it's moving me on a different level let's say that yeah i think that's fair i think something you said uh it's got to be well over a decade ago at this point that we don't have time to get into today but maybe in a future episode i mean we have time i i uh i don't feel like it i want to go um i wrote uh an unsolicited unpaid essay about music and sonic the hedgehog i just wrote this very long thing for what must have been my tumblr at the time and you talked me about it at work or you like i am me about it and not in an insulting way but just you didn't finish it and your your explanation was I started reading this and then I realized we think about music differently

and then I didn't I couldn't go on with it and again not an insulting way but it's like it's clear we're getting different things out of music right that's so a good example of this is Alex Schmidt who is the maybe one of the nicest people in the world, has never said a negative thing, except for this one time when I gave him some music. I think I gave him Islands. I gave him the Islands, and afterwards I checked in with him. I'm like, did you like it? And he was like, no, I did not care for it. No, I did not care for it. And then later I did a podcast of his long after I'd left Cracked. And he was like, oh, and just so you know, like I revisited Islands and I still do not like it. I was like, okay, that's fair. That's, it's all taste driven.

You never get a third chance with Alex Schmidt. I'll tell you that. you never get a third chance with alex schmidt so i i i don't begrudge you for not liking this music and i completely understand why you don't like it and like we're we're you know we're picking songs that we think the other person will like like there's some the songs that i truly love more than any other song in the world i think you would also like uh yes and so i won't bring them to the show because if i'm wrong we can't be friends anymore yeah i mean you just casually mentioned nine to five on the show yeah a while back and now i listen to it almost every single day yeah because that song fucking rules it blows yeah it's great blows in a good way yeah

like it bangs it blows bangs bangs yeah okay well i think we could wrap things up um as always you can follow daniel at dob underscore inc uh you can follow me soren at soren underscore ltd on twitter and you can uh email us at qq uh with soren and daniel maybe i don't know i'm not looking at it right now. Let me pull it up. That'd probably be the better thing to do. While you're doing that, I have noticed there's been like a measurable change in how people are interacting with me on Twitter since I've complained about it so much

for the last several episodes. They're very timid. They're very respectful. It's so sweet. I mean, I appreciate it. I'm sorry for getting in your heads. Twitter belongs to you too. Just do whatever you want with it, guys.

I feel so bad. People are like, I know he hates when people interact with him, but I just want to say he did a good job. Is that okay? Yeah, and I was like, don't move your worlds around me.

I'm just cranky. I've had people in my life who I didn't realize listened to the podcast, but then like when they mentioned the possibility of being guests in my house, they freak out about it a little. And I'm like, no, no, no, it's fine. It's okay. It's okay to be a guest. Like, don't freak out about that.

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