Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - Segel and Seagal

Episode Date: September 23, 2022

In this episode the guys get to the bottom of an acting mystery! And as always big thanks to our sponsors. Thanks  Avast.com! GO.FACTOR75.com/qq130 and use code qq130 to get $130 off across 6 boxes....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I've got a quick, quick question for you, alright? I wanna hear your thoughts, wanna know what's on your mind I've got a quick, quick question for you, alright? The answer's not important, I'm just glad that we could talk tonight So what's your favourite? Who did you get? What do I be? What's it up to? Where did all that guard wings go? Oh, forget it.
Starting point is 00:00:28 I saw a movie, Daniel O'Brien. Two best friends and comedy writers. If there's an answer, they're gonna find it. I think you'll have a great time here. I think you'll have a great time here like what what what made you like this i'm one half of the podcast a boy made by going to high school in a barn sore and buoy and the other half of course is daniel who was raised let me check my notes normal raised normal daniel say hello hello to best friends and comedy writers is that anything? Yeah. What is it? What tune is that? What were you doing?
Starting point is 00:01:29 I mean, we're going to, this is going to be the whole show. You don't recognize that? Two best friends and comedy writers. Am I doing it right? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. No.
Starting point is 00:01:39 No clear idea what that is. Would you like another verse of it? Yes, absolutely. it doesn't even register okay if there's an answer they're gonna find it what amazing this is so it's so rare in my life that i get a thing that I know and you fucking don't. What is it? You have to tell me. Or we can't proceed.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Does it sound familiar at all to you? No. There's not even like a flicker. Two best friends and comedy writers, if there's an answer, they're gonna find it no absolutely not uh it's possible you're gonna say the answer and it will be the theme song to a television show that i definitely watched um it is a theme song and it's just something you
Starting point is 00:02:39 you i think you've listened to at least once or twice. It's a theme song. It sounds hyper specific, doesn't it, to us? Are you familiar with a band called Me Rex? Uh-huh. Oh, fuck. Okay, so they did a theme song for a podcast called Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, which also, I admit, sounds also pretty hyper specific because those are our names uh-huh those are the lyrics to the song oh no well so what will happen when people listen to this is that and maybe they don't know how the sausage is made we don't listen to the theme song each time we do the show we don't play it and then go straight into the
Starting point is 00:03:20 show now we just start talking they people are gonna listen to this they're gonna hear exactly that then they're gonna hear me sing it then they're gonna hear you sing it and then go straight into the show. No, we just start talking. People are going to listen to this. They're going to hear exactly that. Then they're going to hear me sing it. Then they're going to hear you sing it and then go, what is that? Man, this doesn't feel great. Thanks to Nutrafol for supporting Quick Question. Nutrafol is physician formulated to be 100% drug-free.
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Starting point is 00:04:10 myself the resources once reserved for big business. For a free 14-day trial and full access to Shopify's entire suite of features, go to shopify.com slash QQ. Here's the thing. That's just not what I think of when i think of our theme song yeah um it by the way we should take a song rocks i've heard it it's many times cool it's awesome it's so cool that i listened to it well i haven't i haven't in a couple weeks but like i used to just like listen to it because i liked it so much and it made me feel good. And that's why I know it so well.
Starting point is 00:04:48 But you're right. On our average day, we don't listen to that. Yeah. And if I at gunpoint had to start singing the song, I don't think I would start where you started. No. I would start at the beginning, which I know so well that it would be undignified to prove that I know it by singing it right this moment. I got a quick, quick question for you. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I mean, it almost felt like a bit like you were just like giving me this and then sandbagging me somehow. But boy, what a treat, man. I understand your joy now. I thought you were just so pumped that you were going to be like, it's the theme from Ghostwriter, the dog's show. And I'm like, all right, well, I didn't watch that. I was, while you were watching that show,
Starting point is 00:05:40 I was fucking, so I missed it. I just, I can't imagine you're fucking well this show well this show was doing its thing um yeah oh thanks dan hey man no problem thank you and i'm sorry me rex i love the song you're great yikes i said uh in my intro that you were raised normal i don't i mean like i i'm assuming that's true you've got parents who love each other and are still together you've got a sort of a nuclear family minus some not a lot of um estrogen okay in the family of yours because it's all boys basically yeah i don't know if i want to commit to uh the labeling of normal especially when as your definition of normal expands and it just becomes very uh very heteronormative yeah yeah you were raised normal because your parents are together and you have siblings okay
Starting point is 00:06:42 yeah i'm not going to say that's normal, just for the record. One of us thinks normal is the right word to use. I'm really trying to think and I'm deciding to stand by what I said. That having two parents in a house is valuable. Okay. Man, listen to how delicately I'm walking across this minefield. Yeah. That I think it's valuable to have in a family.
Starting point is 00:07:12 All right. Yeah, I'm going to stand by it. Okay. Okay. By your definition, I was raised normal. And I guess so was Hitler. We don't know that. Was he? I have raised normal. And I guess so was Hitler. We don't know that. Was he?
Starting point is 00:07:28 I have no idea. Yeah, I don't know. Adolf Hitler parents. Remember when we used to put each other on the spot on this show and really nail down on something? Force somebody to have an opinion they didn't actually hold? Yeah. No, Soren, I do not remember that. And I don't think new listeners should go back and try to find what you're talking about. Just those little soundbites by themselves, divorce of context. That's like the end of your career.
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Starting point is 00:09:44 It's over and done. We're looking towards the future now. Yeah. And how we're going to get this podcast, whatever awards they give away for podcasts. And I think in order to do that, the first step would be to maybe try to stick to our theme occasionally, which we haven't done in a while. Which is where we ask each other quick questions oh the theme of the show not like the theme song of the podcast i thought you were trying to to get me again no okay good that's also in the past great um i love looking forward
Starting point is 00:10:16 i want to ask you a quick question shoot what's a what's something that you clearly show a talent for but that you hate doing like you would never do it like it's something that you're surprisingly good at uh and you in the very limited times that you've actually done it but you're like i will never ever this will never be my thing i can go first first you have time to think about this when we went back to Colorado recently I took my son out into the woods so I grew up in a log cabin
Starting point is 00:10:51 in the woods in a big pinyon forest and you can just walk outside and you can just like walk into the woods forever and his big thing was he wanted to go find bones so there's always going to be some kill out there there's going to be like coyotes like killed a deer or something like that um and so i'm like yeah i think i could find some bones pretty easy and so we went out there i found a game trail i followed
Starting point is 00:11:16 the game trail uh to uh clearings like areas where i thought maybe animals could have died and they would have been like easy pickings and we we did, we found some, some deer carcasses in like various dates, states of decomposition. And so he found an antler. Um, I also was, as we were walking, uh, back to the house, we were following a different game trail. And at one point I just stopped because I was like, there's, I know that there is something else here and started looking around. And sure enough, there was a mule deer who was just like chilling not far from us eating and kind of watching us. And then it bolted. As soon as we stopped, it really was not, it was nervous and then took off. And I thought to myself, I would be a really good hunter.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I would be so good at hunting because I know how to find animals. I know where they're going to be. I know how to like with rabbits. I know how to get close to a rabbit out in the wilderness. I know that if you try and sneak up on it, you'll never get near a rabbit. But if you just like lumber along and you see one, the more kind of shuffling that you do and the, and still kind of like slow movements, but not like sneaky slow. You're just sort of like breaking branches and stuff. They'll let you get really close because you don't, you're clearly not a threat. You're not something
Starting point is 00:12:33 sneaking up on them. And so they're used to dealing with big animals that are just like, Oh, that's a nothing. That's a cow or whatever. And, uh, and so I was like showing this to Ronan and I was like, here's how we see, we saw a rabbit at one point. And I was like, let's like, this is how we're going to get close. If you'd like to see it closer and taught him this. And then as we're hiking through the woods and I'm like telling him, this is how you know, which direction the animals are traveling. Like, look at this print in the mud. This is, this is the shape of the hoof, but you have to understand like, this is the front of the hoof. This is the back. This is the shape of the hoof, but you have to understand, like, this is the front of the hoof.
Starting point is 00:13:05 This is the back. This is the difference between elk scat and deer scat. This is how you can tell how old it is. Like, I would be so fucking good at hunting and, like, finding one of these animals and just killing it. Well, the killing it part would be, I don't know. That's yet to be determined. But I have no interest at all in actually hunting. I think it's a, it's not a hobby that I would ever take up. I think that's so funny. It's so funny to me that
Starting point is 00:13:32 like, if this were a trope in a movie, then the reveal would be you're Jason Bourne. Like if you had this skill that you were quiet about, it's history of violence. Like now you're Joey, you're the mobster Joey. I could tell, look at the way you just beat up that guy in the coffee shop i i know the truth but in real life you'd be like no i swear to god i'm not it's not a secret identity i'm just really fucking i just crush as a hunter i just never do it i just there's no secret past i was just born awesome at this i we also i got i'll send a picture to you but i dug out the old bb gun which is like a pump action one where you've got to like pump it 15 times it's a rifle and uh i let my son shoot it a few times and we set up some cans and all kind of all over the place and then got up on the roof of my house and just shot these cans and he was way
Starting point is 00:14:25 into it the gun was too big for him and he didn't really understand like how you how you aim and stuff but he was still having fun and then i i was like let me just try i haven't shot anything in a while and just lit these fucking cans up like didn't miss a single one at certain points like they'd get there was one that blew out of the tree by the wind and it was on the ground just kind of behind the tree and you could only see about 10 of it and i still knocked that thing down like i still like hit it and you hear the ting it was i was like i'm a fucking great shot i'm a great hunter i will never ever use this talent maybe if the world ends i could use it um i don't think i knew any of this i didn't even you said you busted out the old bb gun i don't how long you've been holding
Starting point is 00:15:11 on to a bb gun rifle was this at your your in colorado so i guess your parents house yeah yeah it was in it was in colorado we don't have any guns in the house here but um yeah we back in colorado i i realized growing up i i always considered us like, oh, no, we didn't have guns growing up. No, we had lots of guns. We had a BB gun. We had a 22. We had some sort of big. I guess it was a shotgun that was like sitting over the fireplace.
Starting point is 00:15:39 My dad had a safe and there was a handgun. There was a revolver in there that I knew about. Like we had guns. And so I'm like, how did I? Man, it's amazing that I without guns in my whole life, I got to be such a good shot. No, I was shooting guns. We go to friends houses and we shoot 22s like we shot guns all my childhood. Fascinating.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I have one that's not as cool. And I don't even know if we talked about this on the podcast before, but just because we were recently at the Emmys two weekends in a row, and I brought my brother as a guest for one of them and you as a guest for another one, there was a lot of, there's a lot of COVID protocol that we needed to test for the academy. We also needed to test for last week tonight's own specific rules. Uh, so we're doing a lot of COVID tests and some of them require like in-person appointments and there's important scheduling for when you need to take the test by and who you
Starting point is 00:16:35 submit everything to. And, uh, with my brother's case, there was also like flights and getting him to and from the airport. And airport and uh so across these two weekends there's a whole lot of planning and logistical figuring out of things and uh i as i was like mapping everything out for myself and uh figuring out where everyone needs to be at any given time i was reminded once again of every work trip that we've ever taken where I've planned everyone's itineraries and answered all their questions. And I'm just so fucking good at planning for people, at ironing out logistics for how a big weekend trip is going to go. It doesn't necessarily need to be a weekend trip, but like something administrative, putting together an faq putting together an itinerary as i'm doing it i'm just like i am i this is this task is for me this is a thing that i excel at i anticipate the questions i know where everyone needs to be when
Starting point is 00:17:37 they need to be there uh and i i know how to articulate it in a in a in a spreadsheet in a form uh i do not want anyone to find out about this about me i do not want to do this i'm just it just so happens that i'm good at it and i'll do it when i have to but i don't i don't want to pivot to whatever career this is yeah there are no lies told here i you were so it was like this weird second gear you had where it was like, oh shit, Dan's great at this. To the point where your nickname from some, and I don't think this is a particularly nice nickname, Dad O'Brien. Correct. Yeah. But yes, and it was, you're good at logistically understanding everything, all the details of what's about to happen with a big trip or a big
Starting point is 00:18:26 group of people doing a thing together and anticipating all the different things that will come up because everybody's got their own little shit. Like everybody's got their own thing. Like, oh no, I'm coming by car or like, I'm, I'm flying, but I've got a layover. So I'm not getting it until this time. And you were so good at coordinating still with like, oh no, let let's see katie doesn't get in until later so what we're going to do is we should actually we're going to be getting in a little before noon but that's not too early for lunch so we'll just stay there i looked at some of the restaurants in the in the airport and if we go outside of like we go out to the main terminal there's actually this one that sounds seems really good and we can wait for her there and she can meet us there and like of course because everybody feels like they're in such
Starting point is 00:19:08 good hands they're not helping at all either like they're making it worse at every turn which just frustrates you in a very a very clear way where they're like oh somebody else is in charge oh i don't have to focus on anything and they're just wandering around like children yeah uh and then but it's like it's a it's a thing you can turn off i think because you and i we went to chicago once for some shit some some something from craft and uh there was just like we had a day that we could have filled and everybody was kind of looking what to how to fill a day and you and i were just like what if we got drunk and went to the aquarium correct just like on a whim and then we did that and went to a new city went to
Starting point is 00:19:57 their aquarium got drunk and just went to the aquarium it was so much fun and and the walls didn't come tumbling down. Everyone else was fine. In my imagination, they sat quietly in their hotel rooms awaiting further instructions. Well, that's the thing. I think that they immediately pulled up the slack. As soon as they realized there's nobody at the other end of the rope, they're like, oh, I'm on my own? Okay, I'll be an adult.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Yeah. And then they just take over. And there are obviously some hurdles that they have to face. over and there are some obviously some hurdles that they have to face but when you send an email like that and you've got everybody's phone numbers and everything like that the rest of the trip guaranteed everyone's gonna be like dan what are we doing tonight yeah if you make things easy on people they immediately regress yeah yeah uh we used to have a sketch comedy group um that i was actually in with one of my co-workers now the guy who got me my job at american dad uh we used to sketch comedy together and we had somebody in our group who was in charge of like a lot of logistic stuff. It's friend of the show, Dan Campana. Um, and he was, he, in the same way, he was really
Starting point is 00:20:53 good about that kind of stuff. And like keeping track of when we had shows, where the shows were, um, uh, how all of our props, everything that we needed. And then there were times where he'd be out and the job would just fall to me. And my demeanor changed immediately. I was mad at everyone. I was embittered. I was not funny. And I was just upset that nobody else was paying attention. Nobody else was pulling their weight. That I was the leader of the group begrudgingly. nobody else was like pulling their weight that there was just that i was the leader of the group and begrudgingly yeah and uh so to be good at that and to not fall into that trap is like a really rare a rare talent i think you possess that yeah thank you i think it's very funny that in the movie version of this when someone's trying to put a team together if you're like soren we need you to hunt and you're like i told you i don't do that no more. And on the absolute opposite side of the spectrum,
Starting point is 00:21:45 it's like, Daniel, quick, how do we get to LAX? What's the best? Is it just yellow cab or are we doing lift? Ah, that's not me anymore. My spreadsheet days are behind me. You and I would be great if they did some sort of hybrid of Alone and The Amazing Race, where some of The Amazing Race was all the stuff where you're trying to get from Rome to cacao
Starting point is 00:22:09 or somewhere. And like, you have to figure out how to do it in 12 hours. And then the other part of it is you're just wandering across the planes. You're like, there are you now you're on foot now for this next portion, like you're just on foot and you're going to have to figure it out. Are you bringing water? Are you going to bring other supplies? Like, I feel like there we could really thrive. You know what's interesting is that Amazing Race has been on for what seems like my entire lifetime.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And I don't know what that show is. Really? I understand it to be a reality competition show. And it sounds like you work in teams and you are literally racing you're trying to beat someone to a point but it's one of those shows that i've been sort of blissfully ignorant about and when they came up at the emmys and they played a clip of the show and it looked like a couple of guys walking across a mountain or something i was like oh shit they make them race on mountains in this show that's nuts that's hard yeah so they do yeah they do make them like run up temple steps
Starting point is 00:23:05 and things like that it stays fairly metropolitan um but uh yeah i mean the opposite the opposite side of the coin here is what's something that you show absolutely no proficiency for at all and watching the the amazing race it always is teams. And the teams are, you're, you're figuring everything out on the fly. Like you're constantly in a city you've never been in before. You've got to run a certain distance with a big backpack on, but like get a taxi to make a, and you're like, you just have to go as fast as you can. You got to get flights, you got to negotiate and stuff like that. And in those circumstances, I'm the meanest person to whoever I'm with. I've been on trips with my wife and at this point, we know it. At
Starting point is 00:23:53 this point, it's like a thing where she handles it with dignity and grace. But I'm like, I'm so mean because I'm so flustered and frustrated and out of my element that every little thing set me off. And I watched The Amazing Race. And when these people are doing well together, it's like a mom and son. I'm like, how the fuck? What is that relationship? How did that happen? How do you get to a point where you're that cool and collected in this absolute chaos of a storm? And you're so nice to each other, even when you're angry, like you're nice to each other. How do you do that? It's not my bag. No, I guess I'll check out this show. I used to watch it when I tested DVDs for my job. That's actually the only capacity I've seen it in. What's that sound? What did I just hear? Was that the sound of money? That's a sound I love. Oh, boy, does it make me smile. That's the sound of another sale on Shopify. It's kind of like a mixture of a cash register and a bird. is more than a store. It connects you with your customers. It drives sales. It manages your day to day. It does all the stuff basically you don't want to be doing when you want to be focusing on
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Starting point is 00:27:23 Sorry, I got a quick question for you, Soren. Oh, yeah, great. Shoot. This might end up being a recurring segment. It's just something that I was thinking about recently. It's going to be, is this person a good actor or do we just like them? And I have one for it because I have been thinking about this person.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I rewatched one of his movies on the plane on the way to LA. He was on not one, but two beloved sitcoms. One occult favorite. One of the most successful modern sitcoms of all time. He now has a prominent role on an HBO prestige drama. He has written and starred in his own films. He has been famous and on television and movies for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:28:17 For acting. Is Jason Segel a good actor or do we just like him? I'm really racking my brain on this i like to watch him a lot he was freaks and geeks how i met your mother now winning time on hbo uh he forgetting sarah marshall is the movie that i watched on the plane uh which is a good and fun movie i really i'm really charmed by that movie absolutely and I'm watching him the whole time doing the Jason Segel thing and and genuinely like Do I believe any of this any of the time you're trying to be like serious or?
Starting point is 00:28:53 Sad or angry I was like I don't I don't know man. I don't your voice sounds dumb when you get serious I'm really smiling watching you, but I don't know if acting is the thing for you man yeah i mean he is always playing jason siegel i think that you couldn't throw him in like snatch or something like that no um or a period oh man a period piece jason siegel in a period piece would be very funny yeah i agree with you that he plays himself, that he's like, he's got like a one speed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:30 But I, it's such like a great speed and so much fun to watch that. I'm not sure that there's a difference between being very charismatic and being a good actor in that respect. I feel like you, that is being a good actor. If you've figured it out and you've locked it in, like, then great. Then that's who, that's your, your great actor.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Is that one particular thing? Yeah. I wonder how many mediocre actors could have tricked us if they had just picked parts better. If they never tried, if Keanu Reeves was like, no, I'm not going to do anything that has an accent i'm not going to be i'm not going to do this you know whatever romantic wine country movie i'm going to just like keep doing keanu reeves parts and everyone's going to assume i'm the best actor because i'm really good at this thing yeah i mean there's it certainly hasn't worked for some people like steven seagal everyone knew right away like yeah you're gonna do the same thing over and over again
Starting point is 00:30:28 just fucking do the thing yeah but don't don't give him too many lines because he's really terrible um and like that's clear when he goes with something like saturday night live yeah it's like oh yeah don't don't ever do anything outside of your lane yeah um but in fact we don't even like your lane anymore don't do that either yeah we really gave up on that as a culture um yeah jason siegel is i'm like thinking of his performance on freaks and geeks i really genuinely did feel sorry for her when um what's her name linda carlini yeah linda Linda Carlini was dating him and didn't like him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:05 And it was so clear that it was just not going to work. And he wasn't getting it at first. It was very sad to watch. And Sarah Marshall, he does a good job of being down and out, I think. But I agree with you that it's always just him. Yeah. with you that it's it's always just him yeah he's the least him i've ever seen him be in the lakers show winning time and he's uh he's not great in it he needs to play like he's playing like like smart and sad and kind of shy and and and thoughtful and uh it's it's not my favorite
Starting point is 00:31:41 chasen Segel performance. I wonder if you're at a, this is going to be a silly question, but I wonder if you're at a level of, in your career, where you just burned a bridge. I don't know that. I'm surely,
Starting point is 00:32:02 maybe if someone, one of our 12 listeners also knows him and told him, but otherwise I think we're safe. I have one that it immediately made me think of um and i'm curious to get your opinion on it now you've got me so paranoid that uh you didn't let me finish my quick question like the the answer was he yes he is a good actor and we like him. This wasn't an open-ended rhetorical question. I had the answer. We like him and he's good and he's tall and he's hot.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah. And we know what he's working with. We've seen him naked. Yeah. There's an actor who is in, I think most recently, a movie called Beckett. You've seen him in Tenet. You saw him in, I don't know, a movie called Beckett. You've seen him in Tenet. You saw him in, I don't know if you saw Black Klansman.
Starting point is 00:32:49 He's in that as well. I'm talking about John David Washington. Oh, you've got, these are prestigious movies with prestigious directors and he's on the show Ballers on HBO. We're just going to tear down my network today. He is a, he's somebody who I think is compelling to watch, compelling to look at and comes from
Starting point is 00:33:12 like acting stock. Like he's, his dad is maybe one of the best actors of our generation. Greatest actor of all time. You think so? Yeah. All time. Okay. All right. I think that that's arguable i think that that's but you know you could make that case i'm not saying that's absurd um john david washington i i mean i so i watched the movie uh beckett have you seen it no it's a covid movie i mean it came out on streaming only um i can't tell if it's based on like a seventies movie. It very much feels like it is,
Starting point is 00:33:45 but it's a guy who gets tied up in a political kidnapping. He's a tourist who ends up getting in a car crash and see something he shouldn't in the car crash that there's like a political prisoner. And then they're trying to kill him because he knows about this thing. So he's wandering around Europe in a place where it's the amazing race with one person i'm like trying to get all these places as fast as he can and if he's being chased by police corrupt police the entire time um he's not good in it he he's really kind of like wooden i think that he's i'm like oh that's the that's the take you you chose okay let's move on um i felt a little bit like that in tenet too where i'm like i can't tell if this guy's a good actor or not or or if we've just given him a pass
Starting point is 00:34:31 yeah i think the first time i saw him was definitely ballers and i was very excited this is denzel washington's kid and i thought he was great in ballers and then i saw tenant and i was like oh maybe maybe ballers was like the the note you play because tenant he's kind of inscrutable in tenant yeah yeah i at no point do i really feel i like the the character like is really in trouble in a way that i care about yeah maybe that's the problem with tenant. Maybe like tenant is just a movie I didn't quite get, but, um,
Starting point is 00:35:11 I, I find that just watching him, I'm like, I don't know, man. I think that you could, you could dive in a little deeper in these characters. This is a big movie.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah. You could be something you could make some choices here. I wouldn't. Yeah. I don't feel like he's making choices. Yeah. I would need to rewatch that movie again again because uh my memory of it i have very clear memory of this movie because it was one of the first new movies that we were allowed to see during covid a lot of movies were being held back and so we just hadn't seen anything new
Starting point is 00:35:42 and i was i was driving home from my parents house in north carolina and stopped at a hotel in dc and this hotel was like we have new movies it was like what are you talking about there aren't new movies anymore there will never be a new movie again it's covered and they had tenant at this hotel that you could buy on pay-per-view and i was so happy to see something new that i hadn't seen before and i paid whatever it was and put it on and just had the time of my life uh have no idea what happens in that movie but but i was so forgiving of it at the time everyone was dressed so well everyone's so fucking hot in that movie and i didn't know what was going on but i didn't care i was just like
Starting point is 00:36:23 no they're they're they're, they're in Belarus now. That's just where they are. And they have to climb up the thing to get the thing. And then when that scene's over, now they're on a boat, okay? Who cares? I don't know why they're on the boat,
Starting point is 00:36:35 but he needs to be on the boat. Now they're driving cars backwards. Fine. I'm caught up. Who cares? Let them do whatever they want. I just think about if you put him in his dad's role maybe this is unfair to do to him but if you put uh like uh john david washington in something like inside man
Starting point is 00:36:53 the that detective character in the inside man or inside job inside job inside man sorry inside man i was right um if you put him an inside man that's a very straightforward character that doesn't have a lot a lot of like obvious um choices to be made but denzel washington made him so fucking cool and like just made him so much fun to watch and he's so compelling on the screen i feel like there's no way you put no john david washington in that role it's the same thing that is by the way why i think denzel washington is the greatest actor of all time not necessarily that role but because whenever i i'll debate this with my dad all the time of like denzel washington versus paul newman and i don't know why those the i guess those are the two the two greatest and the a thing will happen where
Starting point is 00:37:43 like paul newman at a certain point in his in his career it seemed like uh could have any role he wanted and roles were being written for him and certainly of this time it's like okay we need like some kind of complicated man with an edge we're gonna get the best writers in the world to write it for paul newman and he gets the best lines he gets the best parts and he does a fucking great job with them. Denzel, for a long time, didn't have that kind of treatment, but he was elevating every part that he did get. It's hard to compare the two because, again,
Starting point is 00:38:16 is the screenplay for Cat on a Hot Tin Roof on the same level as the screenplay for Inside Man? No, one of them is written by one of the best playwrights of all time and the other one is not uh but denzel makes it better just by the choices that he makes and the the whatever he brings to every role it's it's really amazing to watch him i'm like trying to look back at uh his early movies before they were just inviting him to be in movies before everyone kind of figured it out um to see if i recognize any of these i think one of his first early ones was like glory was the stuff before glory uh not that i know i don't have his imdb he's so yeah but he's just
Starting point is 00:39:01 you feel for him at every single turn yeah like uh in every movie that he's in and he's it's not just like a situation where he's compelling he is that he's really fun to watch but he's also he's your guy like in whatever you're watching he's your fucking even in training day he's not supposed to be your guy no like uh maybe that's part of the success of training day is that it really it really confuses you up until you get the reveal yeah um but like you're just rooting for him constantly yeah it's always i have so much trust that he's gonna pick the right movies and make them good and it's always very surprising like man on fire is not a movie that i would normally seek out but then i see a trailer with him in it i'm like wow
Starting point is 00:39:42 i guess man on fire is the right choice i guess he wouldn't do it if it was bad The bone collector you're like, oh man Oh Denzel Washington it yeah, I mean 100% Yeah, I remember the Titans could be a terrible it could be very on-the-nose self-righteous movie Yeah, and it's not at all all because it feels so real with him. Anyway, that is to say his son doesn't do that. As far as I can tell yet. And maybe it's just too early in his career. But he does get mad in scenes. And scenes where he has to yell or he has to be genuinely frustrated or angry. I'm just like, no, you're not.
Starting point is 00:40:24 He's so likable and good and ballers. Did you ever watch that? Yeah, I did. I watched the first and second season of it. Um, and yeah, I remember like he just joined a team.
Starting point is 00:40:33 He was like trying to get somebody else's number on the team. And it's like, he's kind of being conniving, but it's like, he's doing really good job on that show. Yeah. I like that one. Uh,
Starting point is 00:40:42 Dan, quick question. Go. Sorry, Daniel. Quick question. Go. Um, really good job on that show yeah i like that one uh dan quick question go sorry daniel quick question go um just like on average how many times would you say in new jersey where you live would you say it just rains would you say it rains like a month let's say out of the whole year yeah like i mean i just so are there are there do you go entire months where it doesn't rain at all yeah you do yeah but not like i i wouldn't say it it feels like uh not not the same month every year or anything like that it's not like dry season uh and you know we're we're pretty
Starting point is 00:41:19 mixed bag weather-wise we get a yeah pretty decent spread yeah i remember visiting new york several times and you'd just be surprised everyone's like oh yeah it's raining yeah like no one is no one is not expecting rain yeah um we saw california is very different you know it's about los angeles yeah boy this is the kind of thing this is one of those things that i think neither of us will connect to when I just Google New Jersey annual rainfall. The average annual precipitation ranges from about 40 inches along the southeast coast to 51 inches in the north central parts of the state. Okay, so this is information I'll never know. I don't know what that feels or looks like. I'll just stay in the
Starting point is 00:42:01 dark and say it rains sometimes. That's going to be my answer. That's going to be how much information I have. That seems like a lot. Does it? I'm thinking about it in terms of feet. So like snow, like the way snow piles up at a key moment where you're like, oh, you've got to – if you had a 12-inch storm, you've got like a foot storm. That's huge. Like that's a very big storm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:22 So 50 in a year seems like a lot but maybe i don't know maybe i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about um so southern california there's a period of time where it's probably from about may june or may until september where there is no rain to speak of if it rains it's the craziest event in the world. Everyone goes outside, cars pull over on the side of the road. It just doesn't rain. And the city just compounds in its hotness.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Like it gets hot and then it doesn't cool off at night. And then the next day, it's still a little bit warm from the day before and you heat it, you turn that oven back on again. And it gets like pretty unrelenting after a certain point,
Starting point is 00:43:05 especially this year where our September has been like a record where it's been so, so hot. And then there was this word of the storm that had come up from the Baja coast. And we were going to get a little piece of this hurricane where there was going to be some rain. And so all week, like I'm watching it, I'm watching it on my phone to make sure that the percentage of chance of rain isn't going to change. And everyone, there's just like, everyone starts getting a little excited at the prospect of, of water falling out of the sky when it hasn't for so, so long. And you just, you didn't have clouds. And then this day, it just started like drizzling a little. And I could see it out on my car
Starting point is 00:43:48 when I was looking out my window, from my front window. And I went outside and just sort of like stood in it for a little bit. And it didn't rain enough that it was substantial in any capacity for this first storm. It was just like the fact that it was like a,
Starting point is 00:44:03 hey, remember that sometimes the sky does this? It was that. It was like a rumor of rain. It rained just the tiniest bit, like 12 drops around me, but I could feel some of them. And standing out barefoot in my driveway, I just started to cry. Because I was like, we need it so badly and rain is such this crazy novelty and it has become obviously more of a novelty over time uh here and you start you smell it in the sky first and like just like all those memories of it, it was, it's a very, um, it, it costs all your senses at once, kind of when you first feel a rainstorm and we weren't getting anything out of it.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Like there's, this was not going to help the, the ground at all, but I was like standing there and just like, this shouldn't be like this. I shouldn't be, I shouldn't be so emotional about some, a few drops dropping out of the sky. But it was overwhelming. It was emotionally overwhelming to have that. And then to also think about my children and think about what are they going to do in the future, I mean. Yeah. When I have to tell the story of rain. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And so I'm standing out there and I'm just crying. Now I've got a dead end street, so I feel a little better about this because nobody's ever on that street except on this particular occurrence, one of my neighbors just comes driving down the street,
Starting point is 00:45:37 driving past me and waves to me. And I'm pretty confident that I've got a red face and tears are visible in my eyes. But I smile and wave and they drive past. We haven't talked about it since. Good. We don't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:45:50 They don't need to know and let them invent their own story. It'll be more fun. I can remember growing up in Colorado that it was a very big deal when after a winter, because the winter was just, it felt so long. Once you got past Christmas, there's nothing. There's like no light at the end of that tunnel. You've got, you still got January, February, March, some of April where it's going to be nonstop, relentless cold and snow. And, uh, and then all of a sudden in spring, you get that first kind of warm day or the day where the snow
Starting point is 00:46:20 doesn't stick. Like it's fallen out of the trees and it's melting from the ground. And it's just, it's mud season, but you're so pumped because you see basically a light at the end of that tunnel, that seasonal tunnel where that euphoria everyone shares and feels all at once. I, uh, uh, I was like, I've never had it from the opposite end. And I'm, I'm worried that it's just going to like go away that there won At some point, we won't have this moment where it's like, ah, thank God the showers are here. It just will continually be hot, hot, hot forever. That's pretty grim. Things have gotten pretty bad out there, huh?
Starting point is 00:46:58 I remember it didn't rain a ton when I lived out there, but it would rain once in a while. You could still be surprised by rain here yes i would be uh i really enjoyed the the ritual autopilot that we all went on when we would see each other and say this rain huh yes well we needed it yes yeah i have that conversation 600 times a day i love normal fucking shit like that really gets me going yeah it's it's been pretty bad here and it's i think it's to the point where throughout any part of the year and i think the rainy season here is really kind of like february january february the rainy season is is now that's not quite right like that's not right
Starting point is 00:47:44 the right adjective for that season it's we will never be surprised by rain here anymore we're we're coming out the other side of uh very hot season here in new jersey and it's wonderful it's a cousin to that first first warm day when spring is coming where uh i i am not immediately sweating when i step outside and i can wear a hoodie in the morning oh i sit while i sit on on the porch with my shorts and hoodie drinking coffee ah what a gift uh there's nothing better when the season sounds like such old people but i know this is like what gets engines revving, so I'll tell the story. That first moment in a season where you get to get back in your car in the midday.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Let's say it's noon and you're going to go pick up some lunch. You get in your car and you're like, oh, it's nice and warm in here. Oh, well, that feeling where your car is not boiling hot, it's not baking. You get to get in it and it's just a little bit warmer than it is outside. And it makes you realize that when you're outside, I was a little chilly when I was out there. Yeah, it's it's so crazy to. To really intellectualize just how much of the year I'm uncomfortable, it's it's really just a few of these windows when seasons change, because I know when it's winter time, I'm miserable about the cold.
Starting point is 00:49:07 It's always too cold for too long. I hate having to put on layers and jackets. And the first day, I don't have to wear a jacket. I'm so happy. I feel like I've really turned a corner. And then in summer, it gets way too hot. And I feel like I can't wear a shirt with sleeves. And I don't want to
Starting point is 00:49:25 leave the house because it's too uncomfortable to be outside and then it starts to cool off a little bit and i'm and in that window i am again happy right as we head into cold season like there's just these a couple of pockets of of like oh i'm genuine i'm oh this is the i'm in one of the eight days a year. I'm comfortable. That's awesome. I don't have to do anything to adjust to the weather. It's just right now. It's so grim. It's so grim to think that like your happiness is dictated by this release of torture basically, where you're like, things are bad, things are bad, but bad is normal. And then all of a sudden things aren't bad. and you're like, I'm so happy.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Yeah, but maybe one day I'll get really lucky and the weather will be correct on a weekend. One of the two days a week I get to be happy. If those things coincided, man. It's so sad. Well, anyway, I just didn't – I was talking. I was looking at our weather and i was like maybe i'll look like four weeks in advance and see no it's just it's in the same way like turtles all the way down underneath the earth this is just sun all the way down and then just you watch
Starting point is 00:50:34 each day get progressively hotter it goes from like 84 87 89 93 you're just like oh no it was so fucking hot when i was out in la yeah these last two weeks it also this is the time of year when everything burns up too so yeah uh the sky is kind of like a apocalyptic red and uh just shadows look wrong like it's like when you're in eclipse and you're like ah something's weird yeah i can't i't pinpoint it, but something's not quite right. Like everything's weird. You wake up and go to your car and there's ash on it. And it's just like, what are we doing? We don't, this earth does not want us here.
Starting point is 00:51:17 That feels like a good note to end the podcast on. Yeah. The podcast is called quick question, but you knew that already. We are recorded edited and produced by the irreplaceable gabe harder our theme song is by the incredible me rex i love it their digital album is available at me rex.bandcamp.com you can find me on twitter at db underscore inc or soren at soren underscore ltd you can find the show at qq underscore soren and dan email us qq with soren and and Daniel at gmail.com and you can
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Starting point is 00:52:09 The answer's not important. I'm just glad that we could talk tonight. So what's your favorite? Who did you get? When will I be remembered? Was it afterwards? Word at all? Did I do it?
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