Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - The Guys Play Songs You‘ll Love! (or hate)
Episode Date: October 15, 2021Great tunes, good vibes, very little neurosis. Classic QQ! In this ep the guys hit each other with some sweet tunes, and Soren tries to pronounce a single word for 1% of total episode run time. As alw...ays big thanks to our sponsors. Thanks Skillshare. Skillshare.com/qq and one-month free trial of Premium Membership. Thanks Raycon!. Go To buyraycon.com/qq for 15% off your entire Raycon order. Thanks Headspace. HEADSPACE.COM/QUICKQUESTION for a FREE one-month trial with access to Headspace’s full mediation library.
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So hello again and welcome to another episode of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, the
podcast where two best friends and comedy writers ask each other questions and give
each other answers.
I am one half of that podcast, author of How to Fight Presidents and staff writer for Last
Week Tonight with John Oliver, Daniel O'Brien, joined as always by my co-host, Monsieur Soren
Bouy.
Soren, say hello.
Hello, everybody.
I'm Soren Bouy.
I like Monsieur.
Yeah.
Sorin Bui. I like Monsieur.
Yeah. I'm watching right now a show on Netflix called
Give me a second.
Sounds like you really like it.
I'm watching a show on Netflix
right now called Midnight Mass and
there's a guy in there named Monsignor
Monsignor.
Monsignor. Yeah. And I was like
oh I like that kind of address. How do I where do I go online to take a class to become a Monsignor? Monsignor. Yeah. And I was like, oh, I like that kind of address. How do I,
where do I go online to take a class to become a Monsignor? Is that just religious?
I don't know. It sounds religious and Italian. Yeah, I think it probably is. I think it's got,
it's Catholic. So that checks out. Speaking of Netflix shows, I feel like a couple podcasts back,
shows i feel like a couple podcasts back you talked about squid game i still haven't watched it but you were you were the first person i heard about that from and then it it has since exploded
the internet i know i've watched that happen i don't feel responsible in any capacity except
for maybe the 12 people who listen to this but uh yeah it really blew up in a way where i was like
well fucking get on it i'm not the one who who's supposed to have my finger on the pulse like this.
Yeah.
Oh, you're saying I should get on it?
Yeah.
Oh, no.
Well, at this point, you're never going to watch it.
The fact that it blew up means that you won't ever watch it.
I have to be very careful with the things I recommend to you.
In fact, there are times where I'll check in
to see if you've watched or heard of something,
and you'll say,
uh,
no,
but everybody's telling me to,
and then I will pivot and be like,
well, don't,
it's bad.
It's really bad.
Don't watch it.
Yeah.
I'm,
I'm watching squid games.
Chances diminish because I was working on,
uh,
jokes for a script the other day and reached out to my group chat.
I was like,
someone really quickly for joke purposes,
tell me what squid game is about. And they did. And I was like someone really quickly for joke purposes tell me what Squid Game is about and they did
and I was like alright I am
pop culturally aware enough about
this show that I can
competently write jokes about it into another
show I'm good I've seen it
that's how I
basically I treated English literature
when I was in college
I was like, yellow wallpaper?
Just give me like
an elevator pitch.
Yeah.
I know.
Okay.
I will talk about
yellow wallpaper
the rest of my life.
Did that guy ever
catch that rye?
No.
All right.
I can see how that
would be a big letdown
for him.
What a phony.
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We can get into the show, unless I'm trying to think if there are any...
Oh, I went to a concert last night.
Wait, who did you go see?
Outdoor?
Outdoor festival?
No.
I was very overwhelmed.
It was an indoor concert in Brooklyn.
I drove to Brooklyn.
Wait.
I learned to drive.
What?
I built a car and drove to Brooklyn.
And you got a license?
Yeah.
And it was a joyful and fun concert. It was Sammy Ray and the Friends is the band, and I love them so much. And it was, I have absolutely no regrets. I went with three of my friends. We were the oldest people there by 10 years easily.
years easily yeah it was a young young crowd and i was very happy for them but i was also happy that my little coterie of 30 somethings were like it's fine if we don't stay the whole time right we
all love this band but like we can duck out of here at 10 beat the crowds yeah absolutely we're
gonna duck out of here at 10 and beat the crowds let everyone else struggle to get out at the same
time and it was great it was an an amazing decision. She's very young.
That's Sammy Rae.
Yes.
There's one of the songs that we didn't end up sticking around for.
So I love all her songs.
Truly, they're great.
It's perfect music.
But there's a lyric in one of her songs,
Let's throw a party.
Somebody's turning 30.
And looking around the room, I was like, well, two things.
No one here is turning 30.
Everyone is turning 30 everyone is
turning 22 except four people who are on the wrong side of 30 and i can't be in this room when that
lyric is sung yeah i've i mean i've been noticing that at concerts for like a decade that that i'm
the wrong age i show up at a concert i'm thinking oh this is a really great band this is going to
be very fun not anticipating that i'm not the demographic i went to architecture in
helsinki when i was like 29 yeah and i walked in there and i was like uh-oh yeah i'm the far
far and away the oldest person here how did that happen and there's no real spot for
for me it's like all right there are the kids there are the parents where oh that's really
young oh no yeah i mean not at this concert my friends recently went to uh a pitbull concert
and it was all kids and parents and then again like the 30 something section
they should i mean i'm obviously segregated concerts for adults go for it soren
obviously segregation is wrong let me start with that but give me like a section at a concert where
i'm allowed to feel comfortable yeah don't put me with everybody else because i it's so clear not
just to me but to them that i don't belong there. And if I start dancing, well, then that's what we're all going to be watching.
Yeah.
But that's my life update.
Do you have anything or should we get into the show?
That's pretty exciting, though.
You went to a concert, an indoor concert.
Yeah.
I think you should be doing more stuff like that, Dan, because you're not accountable
to anybody who's not vaccinated.
That's true.
I think that you could just like start start living your life i mostly do it with a mask
on but you just start living your life again you could get some rapid at-home tests if you wanted
to if you weren't comfortable about like your possibility of exposing other people take one of
those twice a week or whatever and uh and then just like go out there and do it i'm going to
the movies again that's great that's fun do they have i'm gonna see james bond
tonight oh you went a night yeah i'm so jealous of that i've heard it's very good and i'm it
doesn't even matter if i heard it's a fucking movie in the dark on a giant screen that's what
i mean by good that's when i when i rocket man's my favorite movie because i saw it in the theater
and i was like this this is the experience
this why isn't everybody doing movies this way this reminds me of a game i'm gonna plant now
that we're gonna play in a future episode okay are you ready okay it's called uh dangerous bangers
i just learned about it and i'm obsessed with it it was a was a Hollywood reporter profile of Kieran Culkin
in anticipation of the next season of Succession.
And he described this game, Dangerous Banger.
You're supposed to do it in person in a group,
but we could just do it this way because of circumstances.
You take a movie from your childhood that you love,
a banger that you think is great but that you haven't seen
in a while that's what makes it dangerous and then you make someone else watch it or ideally
you watch it with them and it's the first time you've seen it for in a while and it's the first
time they've seen it period and then you decide by the end of it is this still a banger or was
that a mistake yes oh that sounds great yeah okay i have like six in mind that
sounds perfect terrific if this ends up the thing that forces me to watch uh monster house or
whatever that'll be a real coup for you monster house you're like you get it wrong intentionally
just to demean it uh it's monster squad and boy there's a lot of f word that get
f words that get thrown around in that movie okay that's derogative okay not the f word i can handle
the other f nope i see the word the bad one yeah uh not sammy ray and the f words
uh all right well let's start our show here uh yeah i have a a quick question for you
okay sure uh can we invent a non-spooky haunted house experience now
what do i mean by that what are you supposed i mean i have guesses
so maybe he's got scared by a haunted house and you're like, the world should be different.
Man, this house is great, but the ghosts.
Someone should invent one without these things.
I couldn't even get a feel for like the floor plan.
What's the foot of the house?
Is that like 2000 square feet?
I can't tell.
You got a guy with a chainsaw chasing me into a bathroom.
But it's on my mind right now because it's Shocktober.
It's Halloween.
And that will forever remind me of going to haunted houses this time of year around Halloween when I was in LA.
It just became like a fun thing to look forward to there was like
the the the crazy uncomfortable like horror version of haunted house which you and i both
did where it's more of an experience where you're like you wear a mask and you wear disorienting
goggles sometimes you're in a blindfold you're not allowed to talk and you're sort of like
led around a room and there's nudity
and people are like dragging you from things. You have to reach your hand into a toilet to
retrieve a key to unlock something. And like built into this experience is the possibility that it
will be too much for you and you will have to bail early. Like they really want, the point is to shock
you. Dan is describing the blackout haunted house. Yes, thank you.
There's, but as everyone knows,
descriptions are better when they're longer and they don't ever actually say
what you're talking about.
So there's those things, there's Blackout
and there's also like slightly campier haunted houses
where you're going on a tour
and like there are actor ghosts
who will jump out and scare you and zombies and stuff and stuff falls from the ceilings i've done a bunch of those a
bunch of those that are that mixed with like you have to solve clues in the house that will help
you discover the murderer of whatever uh and they were really fun i i enjoyed all those experiences and i just wonder i i i wonder why that market hasn't
been expanded to non-spooky things i'm aware of like historical house tours like we would do those
as field trips we would go to the coven hoven house where people were dressed up in like colonial gear
and they would tell you about churning butter and they would and you'd look at like this is what we used to use to make bread and i'm like cool i'm 13 will you kill me
but those are the only options that i'm aware of it's haunted and educational
and i wonder if we can on the spot you and i invent a different house experience
and then yeah cash out and just fucking coast and well
yeah i may not do this podcast i would throw in haunted houses as well like murder mystery
like not even necessarily scary but just like uh still like it's it's that you're it's
thoroughly couched in the macabre macabre macabre macabre uh macgyver macgyver the only couch in the macgyver
i still don't know how to say that fucking word is it macabre uh i don't know macabre macabre
yeah i feel like the the r and the e at the end is just like a you can get away with just doing
a little breath at the end of the word and people like oh yeah i know what it is macabre
um but yeah i agree i'm putting
i'm putting those like you got to solve a mystery like you're part of a play basically that's like
somebody has died and you're catching little glimpses in other rooms of people's conversations
like that's all i would put that in the same category we know those exist is what i'm saying
oh you're telling you're telling the audience i'm telling you you're
telling the audience not to interact with us i'm saying i'm saying yeah you we have not forgotten
that those are a thing um do you have one in mind i'm trying to figure out uh something that
incorporates singing a musical theater version of this. An immersive musical experience that takes place in different rooms of a house.
Yeah.
I can't quite crack it yet, though.
Yeah, because you're going to hear,
there's going to be bleed.
Right.
You know, from between the walls,
you're going to hear other songs happening.
Oh, what if it's...
Haunted.
I think that's also like a possibility that i have baked in my brain for um this process
that we're going into right now is we might discover why this market hasn't expanded we
might realize that it just doesn't make sense well i'm trying to think of what else i'd want to see
uh in a in a house like an immersive fun narrative experience in a house.
Like is there, like what does
if there's
a house that exists for haunted house times
on Halloween, what do we do with that
house just as a for instance
in December for Christmas time
or another holiday?
Wait, you were, okay, that was
I thought you were gasping because
you had a better idea.
It just occurred to me the Magic Castle exists,
and it does a very similar thing with just magic,
where it's like you are in charge.
You're wandering from room to room,
and as you go into a certain place,
you might see somebody doing a really cool trick for five people,
and then you wander away.
You go somewhere else, and you're like,
I'll get a drink, and you get a drink from the bartender,
and just at the end of the bar,
there's somebody who's doing some cool magic.
That's what the Magic Castle is? I thought it was like one room, and you and you get a drink from the bartender and just at the end of the bar there's somebody who's doing some cool magic that's what the magic castle is i thought it was like one room and you sit there like a like a like comedy show it's a it's a little that too there's also showing
rooms where like people can sit there and go to a real magic proper magic show but there's also
just magicians throughout this place that are just doing fucking crazy good magic cool yeah and so
there is a little element of that you You're not, but they're like,
there are rules to it, obviously.
Like you can't touch stuff.
You're not allowed to ask how a trick is done.
You're not allowed to even talk about
how you think it's done.
Very, very specific, like annoying magic stuff.
That like, which is the first thing you want to do
when you're drunk.
Like as soon as you start, you get in there
and you start drinking in there.
You're like, hold on, do that again. Do what you just did. Like, did anybody
else see that? There's just a guy doing tricks for himself at the end of the bar. And you can't,
you're not allowed to do that. You're just supposed to like accept the experience.
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But yeah, magic is a fun one. And then you don't have to have like a story going on with it
but i think you could probably do something similar with comedy oh yes and
where you're telling it like a noises off type of story. My brain also went noises off. All right, continue.
Yeah, where you've got,
there's clearly,
like the story develops as you're walking through this
where people, you know,
there's some misunderstanding
or they don't know
that the other ones are there
or they have to stay secret
for some reason.
And so like,
you're just catching
all the different parts
of this one story.
That's a very easy story
to follow, obviously.
But they're like,
you're catching these little funny vignettes of them, the things that they're doing. So the first one might not even
make sense. Like you walk into a room and like, there's people showing up to a cabin for the
weekend. And it's like a guy who's brought this woman up there for the first time. And like,
they've been dating a little bit, but this is clearly a big step and they're walking in.
And then like, they hear like a weird noise and they just sort of ignore it. Or the guy's like
covering for this noise. And then later, like like as you're walking through another room you might even get
the simultaneous thing that's happening like the rashomon type of thing that's happening in the
other room and you hear where that noise actually came from and it's like the brother is there and
the brother is going to be giving him the pitch like the lines that he needs to use for this woman
or whatever it is you know yeah a better story that, that I just came up with in five seconds. But something like that might be very fun.
I could definitely see that.
And by some circumstance,
you get pulled in to play a part in this show.
Like an iconic costume piece is suddenly on your head
and it's like, no, you're the Sultan now.
It's fine.
Stand here.
You're part of it.
Yeah. Yeah. Yes. You no, you're the Sultan now. It's fine. Stand here. You're part of it. Yeah. Yeah.
Yes. You have come to check
the water pressure. That's your job now.
So you're spending a bunch of time.
You can lead people around that way.
They're like, you have to go to the kitchen and fix the
plumbing. So then you're
fucking under the sink while this stuff's happening
around you. This is what makes us such good improv
partners is that I say, you put on
this Sultan hat and you say, yes and check the water around you this is what makes us such good improv partners is that i say you put on this sultan hat
and you say yes and check the water pressure that's how i know we're always on the same page
well i don't the problem is the sultan hat i don't i don't know what kind of house this is
anymore and i can't picture it so i have to like return to something i know
i don't know where we are anymore it's gonna be like i would
genuinely enjoy when the world if the world ever returns to normal doing a two-person improv touring
show with you where we are where we're we're both trying to put forth our agendas just talking past
each other we just decide that the rule of our games
is the other one is not participating we just break the point of this improv game is to break
the rules of improv let's see if that's anything yeah we clearly have different agendas and we're
not going to give up we're not going to give up. We're not going to give up on ours.
Yeah.
I think maybe a comedy one, obviously not us, but somebody could do it.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of what else I would even enjoy seeing. There's nothing for, there's no like pop-up adult thing for Christmas.
Anything that exists for Christmas is for children and rightfully so
like the only pop-up christmas things i've seen have been like come to this bar it's
decorated for christmas and there are christmas themed drinks that's it right like i there's
there's no way for me to be like kids stay home mom and dad are going to a christmas house
every year on christmas i think this american life does some really interesting christmas stories
and their stories from people's childhoods um that i always find are pretty fascinating and
like the way that they celebrated christmas and not realizing it was crazy until they grew up
and i wonder if you could do like that thing where you have a party where there's different
drinks in different rooms or each room is themed and then there's somebody who fits that theme in
there just telling a story.
And it's a story that you could,
I mean, you could stick around for 10 minutes of
and then leave and be fine.
Maybe you could do something like that.
And that would be, there's just like sitting by a fireplace,
listening to somebody talk about their Christmas as a child.
I might enjoy that.
There's a, maybe a food thing thing there's a restaurant in jersey city that
is just this person's big house and you make reservations uh it's never like for two or for
one it's always big parties of like 10 and uh you make whatever you eat whatever they're making
and that's just it and they just make you like a huge meal right there in the kitchen of their
house.
And it's this family owned place that's been around for a while.
Maybe something like that,
but with a story to it.
Yeah.
Big night.
Wait,
have you seen big night?
No,
you told me it's on the list.
Okay.
It's one of those.
Don't watch it,
Dan.
It's terrible.
It's bad.
It's a bad movie.
Don't watch it.
You'll hate it
um yeah okay i think there's lots of opportunities here i mean i there's clearly gonna be some
logistical issues along the way you have to get actors who cook uh really well and i only know
one of those it's you dan hey actor that's funny you did a lot of great acting back in the day uh i don't know if
that yeah maybe this isn't really the time to sit you down that compliment just now but i was always
surprised and impressed by the choices that you'd make and i was like you really funny guy you got
a bob newhart thing happening oh get out of here let's move on to a different thing right this
second okay i've got a question for you.
Great, thank God.
This is exciting because it's the return of a game
that I really enjoyed playing with you previously,
which was we find a piece of music for one another
that we ourselves,
well, we're going to do a little alteration on it.
The original game was that we would bring in a piece of music
that we like, that we ourselves enjoy and then you
just know that the other person is gonna hate we know each other's taste well enough that we can
say this is a piece of music that i enjoy and that boy does this venn diagram not overlap my
my friend will hate this yes and in that game we we both batted uh 100 percent what's the a thousand
thousand okay yeah we batted a thousand So this game's a little tougher.
This game is...
I'm going to bring in a piece of music
I don't particularly care for.
But it's something that I think you will like.
Okay.
And this is hard.
What's great about this game is
this might be really insulting.
It could be, yeah.
It could be, yeah.
It also has the potential
for the other person to hear it and be like,
no, I mean, this is objectively bad. It could be. It also has the potential for the other person to hear it and be like, no.
I mean, this is objectively bad.
Why do you think I like bad things?
I don't know.
You like shit that sucks.
I thought you'd like this too.
This is a little iteration on what ordinarily happens between friends where you will find a piece of music that you enjoy and you'll say, you know who would enjoy this my friend and you want to share that with them no we're not doing that we're doing a piece of music that you hear you're like oh this is not
my style at all but a fucking dan would love it yeah try that let's hear it okay so uh i brought
a song here for you first of all i need to know and this could ruin it entirely have you heard of a band called the bantams no perfect it would have been so funny if you if you had a song from sammy
ray and the friends i just powered through it even though knowing you had just talked about it
um this is a band called the bantams and they have a song called honestly that came up on a playlist for me
and i started listening to it and i was like next wait wait and then sat there with it for a little
while and i was like i think this has some of the elements that dan really enjoys in music and i'll
describe them to you afterwards to maybe save face if you don't like it sure right because you still
want to be right on paper yes yeah that's
important uh all right we can play that
all right that's good that's good we cut it there
ah you sunk my battles, you son of a bitch.
So, first of all, a singer who's like clearly not using their best voice.
Like they're really like belt.
There's a lot more emotion in it than there is like attempt to be really soothing with that.
Really croon.
Yeah.
There's a lot of like,
there's some good lyrics, I think.
I think like some lyrics that I'd be like,
oh, those are interesting.
And then also that,
those like that pause right after the chorus,
they're like into just some lyrics
and then right back into the music.
Yeah.
My, I definitely liked the song right away.
And then as it built and it was getting to that big stop,
my heart was like, I hope they fucking do what I want them to do here.
And then they did.
Took me to the moon.
Oh, I'm so pleased.
That's great that you like it.
Yeah, what's the name of that song?
That's called Honestly.
That's a band called The Bantams.
Honestly. Great. Excellent. What a day I'm going to have. yeah what's the name of that song that's called honestly that's a band called the bantams honestly
great yeah excellent what a day i'm gonna have uh that's at a high bar i hope well first of all i'll
ask uh i think you might have heard i heard of this band just because i think they're more popular
than i expected uh do you know private island no oh boy they came up with a playlist. They do a cover of Can't Take My Eyes Off of You.
And I loved it.
I really enjoyed it.
And I was like, what else do these chaps have?
And I hated all of it.
And so now we're going to play a song called Mad Mirage for you.
Okay. All right.
So I was worried, Dan, there at first.
Really?
Yeah.
The intro to it, I was like is what this is slow this is like
melancholy this is not me and then like it broke into like it got a little more dittier and it had
like that wind whispering through it like there's a and i was like oh yeah this is my shit okay good
all right it does i forgot it started that way where it sounds like like uh like the worst
kind of the fray song and i'm like oh did i do this because like that's one of my issues with
this with this band because i do really like their bass player a whole lot so i've listened to their
album a few times because of that but uh full disclosure before this podcast i sent a song to
to gabe i was like play this for soren
and then i realized i sent the wrong one i was like no no no it's this one it's mad mirage it's
because i can't tell any of these fucking songs apart so even if as it was playing this time it
was like the first time i'd ever heard it it all sounds like the same kind of toothless background
noise to me that i know you like that's my jam yeah the stuff that's like
completely inoffensive the vanilla of music that like it just grew to in the back while i'm while
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and it's very much
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Yeah, this is, uh, which, which of these two games do you think, by the way, I don't have
any other songs.
So that's the end of this game.
Okay.
Uh, unless do you have another one for me?
Well, I have a song that's the other way.
That's the, that's a song that I think that you would hate
and that I absolutely love.
Okay.
It's like a song that I'll even listen to at the gym,
even though it's got a weird pacing to it.
Okay.
But I want to try that version of it.
We don't have to do one from you,
but I just want to give it a shot.
Yeah.
Watch, I'll play Diamond Rings by Tennis.
No, I'm going, this is a completely different song.
This is, are you familiar
with the Mountain Goats?
Yes.
This might be
you might
lose. I love the Mountain Goats. You do?
Yeah. Oh man.
So what I thought I would have landed on here
was the
same reason I like the December so much is that
they tell like a clear narrative story
and the vocals are like the star of the song.
And it's clearly an affected, an affectation that the-
Yeah, he's not like a pleasant sounding guy.
No, and I thought that that would immediately be the thing
that would hurt you the most.
But I want to play, have you heard the song Heretic Pride?
Maybe, I don't think so actually. let's listen to a little bit of it well they come and pull me from my house
and they drive my body through the streets
it's it's just it sounds like such a Mountain Goat song. It clearly is.
Yeah, I love it.
I hadn't heard that one.
I love it.
I'll add it into my rotation.
This is sort of a tangent of this game.
This was sometime last year, I think,
where my brother and I were talking about music
and how we hadn't been excited about anything for a while.
And then it was right when
uh yeah it was 2020 mountain ghost released getting into knives and i yeah devoured that
album and i loved it so much and i was like per our conversation about music guess what just
dropped today and i sent it to him and he was like oh i do not like this yeah uh it's it's
certainly like a dark horse for you i think yeah um this doesn't fit your
usual mold but i'm pleased to hear that you like it they so heretic pride is an album too
and heretic pride is on it it's the whole album is outstanding i think it's from like 2010 or
something like that but it's um it it basically is a story that takes place over all the songs
which is the story of this weird apocalyptic future
there's like some war in the future
and this song as far as I can get
I can understand it's like
it's about the antichrist
I think and it's like how the antichrist
is prophesized
by a god that
so he would be part of like he would
be fulfilling god's prophecy
so he'd be just as devout as anybody else, any of the other followers.
So it's about this guy who's like tasting jasmine on his tongue and smelling the honeysuckles
as he's being basically thrown into a pit by this entire town who are trying to kill him.
And he's just like enjoying that being alive and like seeing everything around him in the summer day that it is.
And just like marking each one of their faces one by one and then
expecting his transfiguration where he burns
hotter than the sun itself
and it's such like a weird
cool perspective that I'd never heard in a song
before and I was like I just
love it so much
yeah that's great
I'm realizing now that I
I've listened to so much
Mountain Goats
and a couple of their albums,
front to back is the only way that I consume them.
But I don't actually know if I know what almost any of their songs are about.
Even when you're talking about that being a concept album.
I don't...
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, there's...
I know this year is the like the obvious yes they're
famous pop one and it's pretty explicitly about what it's about and there are there are a few
things on sunset tree that i know what they're about but like you could tell me that sunset tree
was uh a concept album that's all telling one story and that would be news to me yeah yeah
sometimes like they'll they'll reference like first and last names.
And I just, I blow it off.
I just think like, yeah, he knows somebody named that.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's Jack and Diane.
Yeah.
Wait, is that what they are?
Jackie and Diane?
Jack and Diane?
Sucking down chili dogs?
Yeah.
Okay, good.
Good.
I had the right people.
I didn't want to accuse the wrong people of sucking down chili dogs.
Bob, pleased to hear that you like the mountain ghosts that's good i just feel like you're just like a a hair's breadth
away from liking the decemberist dan it's possible that i need to hear the right song by them but
it's it's it's likely that i never will yeah i'll say the mountain ghosts maybe rock a little harder
too yeah they're a
little too folksy uh the discerberus for your for your liking i and i i discovered this about
myself too is when i was just listening to playlists at the gym that i don't know uh that
occasionally one would come on and it would start with some mandolin and i was like i fucking love
this song and i didn't even know yet but just like the mandolin got me going where i was like yeah mountain goats is an
interesting gym song so that song yeah it is this this album is is it rocks a little bit more and
then but it's also the story that it tells is just got so much um like it's so clear it's coming from
a narrative perspective and it's yeah and i and it's somebody who is really like pushing hard and I,
I can relate to that while I'm in the gym. Yeah. So I take it, you know, it's not just like,
you know, drum beats and stuff. It's like the lyrics really do it for me. Yeah. There's, uh,
uh, going to Georgia really speaks to me for that, like narrative thing. Cause he crams a lot of
lyrics in there and like the song is a little raw tinny acoustic yeah like a lot of their songs
and as soon as he starts singing the most remarkable thing about coming home to you
and it's like oh yeah this guy's got something to say let's go he's not even waiting for like
a melody well if we play this game again i have an entirely new artist for you that is also kind
of like on the line and i don't know if you're going to enjoy them or not but it's somebody who i deeply enjoy and i think you might hate what do you think was
more difficult finding a song you don't like that i like or vice versa no finding a song that i
don't like that i think you would like is very very very hard to do also i think possibly
the best type of gift you could give to somebody
something where you it's it's completely altruistic it's something that you don't enjoy
but that you are like but i want you to have it because i like you and i think you would like it
yeah uh back to the conversation of gifts i yeah i did uh this this is this i don't think it's a romantic thing but tell me if it's shitty
anyway i was uh i introduced a woman to this album of songs we were talking about it and
just on a lark i was like there's one song on there that i hate do you think you could find it
and she did that's wonderful that's really great i think that's that's a fun test to give someone that
is really good it's that's because because exchanging music and movies and tv is about
testing people to see if they're correct there's another music game we ought to play again on this
which was a lot of fun which was we picked out a song that we really enjoyed and like one lyric
that really ruined the song for us and it was this time last year because I did Busted Makes Me Feel Good.
And this is canonically the only time of year
you allow yourself to listen to that kind of music.
It's true.
It's true.
Yeah, we should play these gigs more often.
We have a lot more content for this podcast
than we think we do.
Yeah.
That said, are we done yet 36 minutes
how's your uh uh oh that sound that you just did reminded me um a thing i learned about myself
because i was listening to uh the i don't want to bore you. The Hunter Foster, Carrie Butler, Broadway recording of Little Shop of Horrors.
And in Grow For Me,
the plant does like kissing noises when it wants blood.
And a thing I learned about myself
listening to that song for the first time in a while
is I really hate the audio of kissing sounds.
It really, really bugs me. How do you feel about that? It's like the audio of kissing sounds. It really, really bugs me.
How do you feel about that?
It's like the opposite of ASMR.
Yeah.
There's just some sound that you hear, and you're like, nope.
Nope.
No, you have to stop that right now.
I have one.
It's a noise that this only happens, and I only ever hear it when, oh, no.
Actually, now there's two times in my life that I hear it.
But the first one that I'd always hear is people would be like, Dan, will you check your mic, please?
And Daniel would go.
I forgot that I used to do that.
Or he'd go.
Like you do that noise and it would be like, oh God, get it off of me.
What a prick.
get it off of me what a prick you do these weird little visceral noises that don't have any like they're not attached to
anything in the world but they are bad like they're i don't associate them with anybody
i just don't like them just showing up on set thinking sound engineers are probably
bored of the same old thing i'll give them him a thrill. Let me turn this into a game.
You're talking to somebody who intentionally went
and peed it with his mic next to the toilet for Nick Rude to hear
and said, this one's for you, buddy.
Thank God he took that well,
because now I think that might actually have been harassment.
Oh, yeah.
But he thought it was fun.
So I guess know your audience um but um the only
other time that i hear that now is now that i have a cat sometimes it will come it likes to sit on me
and i'm cool with that that's fine while i'm watching a show or whatever um something to pet
but the cat also as soon as it gets really comfortable on you it just starts cleaning
itself yeah and it's there's nothing more annoying than having a cat clean
itself in front of you because it makes that terrible noise as it's like licking there's their
that's leg totally sprawled out over its head and it's it's good ah stop it terrible terrible noise
and the same motion over and over but it's just like a little tiny jerky motion it's like somebody
tapping you over and over and then occasionally like they'll be cleaning themselves and they'll,
their tongue will kind of hit your jeans a little bit or like hit your shirt. And it's just so
unbearable that I can't, that like, I think this cat assumes I hate it because the minute it comes
and sits on me and we were like, okay, we're good. We're comfortable. Okay. I'm going to take
a quick bath. I'm like, no, you got to get off. You got to go.
I don't like, I don't like you. You have to not even be on the couch with me. Cause I don't like
the noise. Um, but, uh, that's, that's you, you introduced me to it, Dan. I had no place to put
it. And now I know where it exists in nature. And I'm like, yeah, I was right not to like it.
Is there a reason you've been so conservative online with your cat content?
I don't think anybody cares.
When has that stopped anyone from anything?
I'm pretty conservative with my children content too.
I will tell stories occasionally on Twitter about my children if they did something funny.
Or if I feel like a picture won't haunt them forever.
I will put that up with some context.
But I just don't know.
I don't feel like anybody gives a shit about my cat.
And I care about that.
I care about people giving a shit.
Yeah.
Well, at least send me pictures of your cat.
I'll send you some.
Yeah. So here's an update about my cat oh yeah gave my minutes are ticking away it's given my family ringworm which i didn't
even know was possible fuck i guess this cat was one that came with it right out of the box i don't
understand how it works.
But the cat had some ringworm, some hidden ringworm.
And then all of a sudden just started to get...
Maybe I talked about it on the podcast where the cat had some alopecia on her face.
And it turns out that was ringworm.
And ringworm is terrible to get rid of.
It's awful.
And not only that, it's deeply contagious.
So my son now has ringworm in
four different spots my wife has it on her thigh just because the cat always sits on her lap while
she works my daughter and i do not have it partially because i won't let this cat sit on
me long enough to like clean itself sure and then also my daughter's the cat wants nothing to do
with her so they don't touch a lot but my son and my wife now have it, and I'm like, how does this happen?
And it's like you got to put like an antifungal cream on it.
You got to wash it with a special shampoo.
When I say it, I mean the cat.
Right.
And I'm not going to bathe this cat.
Apparently, I could take it to a groomer, but that also seems deeply haunting for the cat too,
where I walk out of the room,
she's with strangers
and they do something terrifying to her.
So I'm like, I don't know, man.
Grooming is a normal part of pet ownership.
But not for cats, I don't think.
Cats for the most part take care of themselves,
but taking them in and getting a cat a bath,
it's not like giving a dog a bath.
That's a traumatic experience, I think, for a cat.
And I mean, so much so that they don't do it naturally themselves,
that their only instinct is like,
look, I would rather eat all the dust off my skin
than actually get in any amount of water.
But a ringworm, if you don't know, it's not actually a worm. It's don't if you don't know it's like a it's not actually a
worm it's just a i don't know a bacteria maybe it's just like a it bits a rash it's a rash that
forms a ring a little red ring and it's itchy and it stings a little when you itch it and my son is
just in pain and i'm every single night slathering him in this stuff and apparently for the cat now
i have to give it some oral medication too which is now i gotta figure out how to get a pill in this cat
it's just uh don't don't get a cat dan no i won't i talk about this cat like i hate it i won't let
it sit on me and i and i am mad at it all the time but i do like it i think it's a really sweet cat
and i um when i called it, I was just joking earlier.
She's wonderful.
She's a good cat.
I don't think she listens.
Oh, God.
Thank God.
I mean, she is outside the garage right now.
So it's possible she can hear me.
It's bonkers because this entire section of the podcast,
Jackson has been sitting on the couch staring at me.
And I'm not breaking away from it either. We're just
maintaining full eye contact with each other
and like he's sitting up looking at me.
He's not, he doesn't think we're going
anywhere or anything's about to happen.
He's just staring at me.
Yeah, he's
following the conversation.
Yeah. He's enjoying the things that you're saying
right now or hearing, I guess.
Yeah, that's the thing. Another thing about cats that i didn't realize is like dogs will like the affection of you looking at them yeah they like seeing your face and like they follow
your facial uh they give you your eyebrows raise at the middle and down at the sides like you're
sad like they recognize that yeah cats don't fucking want
you looking them in the eye cats want you to breathe the same way that they blink really
slowly when they're really comfortable and they just sort of look off in the middle distance
that's what a cat wants you to do around it that's what makes them the most comfortable
when you look at a cat they're like what the fuck are you looking at? Yeah. What is it? What?
What?
And they hate it.
And it just goes against my very nature.
Yeah.
I found, and this is more a criticism on me than it is of Jackson, certainly,
but I was out with someone and they were like, so what's your dog like? I was like, he's thoughtful.
so what's your dog like?
I was like,
he's thoughtful.
I think he prefers suburbs over the city.
He likes to run a lot.
He loves people.
He's not a huge fan of other dogs.
He likes to make me jealous when there's someone else in the house.
He likes to sit on their lap and look at me.
And the person was like,
no, like small big
what kind i was like oh oh i see what you're saying he's a poet he's really a poet trapped
in a jock's body i've had that sort of relationship with dogs before. Never any other animal.
And now that I have a cat, I'm like,
I thought for sure in the first few months that I had it,
I'd be like, yeah, I mean, I'm going to really grow.
Because I liked the cat a lot.
I liked when it was, I'd take it outside
and it would stick with me and everything.
I was like, yes, this is very cool.
But I'm not developing that loving relationship
with my cat that I would with a dog.
It's just sort of like fine i enjoy playing
with it sometimes i enjoy making it feel comfortable and scratching it under its chin
and watching it really stretch out and enjoy that but outside of that that's our relationship that's
pretty much it whatever whatever whatever sure it's just a cat uh we should probably wrap things up
yeah
I don't even know if
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