Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - The Hot Boyz of Summer (Spring)

Episode Date: April 10, 2023

This episode the guys revel in their newfound status as kind of old guy sexual icons, and then someone does the Mash and it turns out it in fact was a great big Smash.  

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I think you'll have a great time here. So, hello again and welcome to another episode of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, the podcast where two best friends and comedy writers ask each other questions and give each other answers. I'm one half of that podcast, senior writer for Last Week Tonight, author of How to Fight Presidents, and guy who is, four days later, still recovering from a bachelor party weekend. Daniel O'Brien, joined as always by our co-host, Soren Bui. Mr. Soren Bui, not too loud, please. of our co-host Soren Bui. Mr. Soren Bui, not too loud, please. Hey, everybody.

I'm Soren Bui. I write for American Dead. I am also sore, incredibly sore, from playing Ultimate Frisbee five days ago. Ooh. Yeah. Haven't used those Frisbee muscles in a while, huh? No, I was bad.

I was bad enough that I'm still, when I'm going to sleep at night, I'm still thinking about it and like the things I fucked up. Yeah. And part of me wants to be like, well, there's that. I mean, the next time you go back, it's only going to be better. But I don't believe that. I was like, I clearly lost a step.

I dropped a few that were easy catches. Just like my jump was not timed right. Some things I'll catch again, like I'll get back on, but you know, it's really frustrating to not be naturally and beautifully athletic. Yeah. And the worst part, Dan, was that Dan was there. Dan, who works on Daily Zeitgeist was also there. Oh, Dan.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. um tell me tell me what you're for it's a bachelor party weekend just just i can't i can't hang anymore with just like three straight days of of being out and and we were in nashville and just like drinking and uh and eating like monsters and we're all really glad it was can i tell you how many people are in this bachelor party 17 my childhood friend a great friend of mine and like it's a testament to his kind of character that 17 guys would absolutely show up

to this to this party and and to and support him and we all we're all in our 30s but we're all also like this is it's for chris we're gonna drink and we're gonna have fun and we're gonna eat and we're gonna party and it's just not it's not in my blood it's not my bones anymore i was still i was still like as much as i tried to hang i was still in bed by like 10 o'clock at night oh damn that, that sucks. That sucks. Were you getting up and running? Yes. We ran eight miles in Nashville.

I ran with the Bachelor. Okay. And I can't wake up and like I need to do that run because otherwise this is a crew that will start drinking at 10 o'clock in the morning. It's a Bachelor party. Yeah. There are certain, there's tacit agreements with a bachelor party and one is that whatever the groom is doing you're you do as well whatever the groom it seems

like the groom might want like that's also you're anticipating that and you're gonna do what's fun so if you're running with him that's fine um i have run at a bachelor party before and it was because i woke up in the morning it felt so god awful that i was like i i think that this might be the only thing that keeps me alive and gone and like slowly trotted down the street and then back and i was like yeah that that helped um but another one is that you just you can't go so early. Also, you can't turn down alcohol. You're not allowed to turn down alcohol at a bachelor party. I think there was a lot of late night food too. That's the thing.

Going to sleep at 10 is the thing that I, that's what I mostly missed out on because we would be out all day. And then when we got in, we weren't like, let's go in, let's rally, let's go back out again. We would sit around a table and play a card game called guts and we would drink and eat and then someone would order way too much fast food to the house and then that became like a uh almost prank where where someone would would say i'm leaving i have to i have to go to bed. And they'd come back with two bags of Wendy's.

And I would eat as much garbage as I could. I'm like, all right, I had some great barbecue. I had this incredible Indian food. And we got some White Castle. Good night, everybody. And then I would wake up the next morning and there'd be Taco Bell bags somewhere. Like I missed the Taco Bell run at some point. I like that you guys went to Nashville and ate a bunch of fast food.

That's right up my alley. I had to have questions about the cuisine. First of all, did you guys have hot chicken while you were there? I did not this time because the last time I was in Nashville with you, we got the famous Nashville hot chicken. The famous-est. Yeah. Like we went to the place that was like the place.

Yeah. And I felt like, all right, I got it. It's not, it's not really anything too special. And I think of all the various poisons that I was putting in my body that weekend, incredibly hot Buffalo sauce was like, no, let's draw a line somewhere. We don't have pills for all of this. Did you drink moonshine while you were there? No.

So that was the thing that really startled me when we went to Nashville, was how many places offer moonshine on their menu. Yeah. It's like Nashville likes to... Nashville somehow is claiming ownership of moonshine in a way where I was like, okay, cool. You figured it out. Let's try it.

You got different flavors. Let's try a peach one. No, that's fucking rubbing alcohol. Why would you even say that there's peach in that yeah but it was a great time i think you you i mean you know it's the same thing as your bachelor party where there's no it's it's people who like you and are gravitated towards you there are no bad actors in the bunch it was just like a a group of 17 uh incredibly bro-y very sweet boys that confused a lot of people we were out at hockey talks and like someone asked like what is what is this there's so many of you and i've never seen more guys like openly affectionate with each other.

Like we're all just very supportive of each other, patting each other on the back and like excitedly chatting. And we were at a million honky tonks because they're all over the place there. And we just don't make a whole lot of sense there in Nashville. The bachelorette capital of the world so there's plenty of bachelorette parties and then there's one group of sweaty almost 20 men singing along to places like how did like let's say you had to leave you're gonna go out to dinner yeah how are you rallying that many people and then also how are you just transportation wise like how are you getting there you just get like big suburban lifts for like like two or three for

the whole group and they're just like a lot of we roughly knew uh our our few like scheduled things top golf nice restaurant uh and a couple other places we all kind of knew when that was supposed to happen so we were all rallying at the right time and it's it's again oops all sweeties just everyone's stepping up i'll get the lift this time next it's your turn whatever and uh there are no problems that's great i do actually really i've been places where you're in a big group with guys and girls and again this is going to sound very gendered but i i've been at bachelor parties where everybody can leave a house at the drop of a hat. We're like, hey, we're going to go get on a boat. Okay.

And everybody just goes. And on the way, you're like, are you not wearing shoes? Yeah. Do you think I'll need them? I don't know, man. Everybody's just going to go. Nobody puts any thought into it beforehand. And I guess obviously sometimes that backfires, but also it's so nice to have to be to

be that mobile to have everybody like be able to turn on a dime certainly because when i've been out with uh guys and girls we're like you're trying to get out of the house you're like it's three o'clock this dinner's at seven we're probably not gonna make it yeah we uh the most fun and very heartwarming and sweet thing so at all these honky tonks first of all the thing in nashville every musician everywhere is great every band you see and there's there's there's like two bands in every fucking honky tonk uh playing for four straight hours and they all have the same deal which is we can play anything venmo us a request and we will play the song you want wow and uh we found this one band that we liked a lot.

And the other thing about Honky Tonks is I take them at their word that they are receiving requests and playing what they're told. Every country song sounds the same to me. They all sound exactly the same. So it's like, yeah, this probably explains at least some of the way how you could play every song that gets requested is because you know it's going to be the same 25 songs that all sound

this one very specific way and we got together for uh uh the bachelor and we venmoed the band and the guy was looking at his phone was like okay a couple good options here who's joe and we're like joe's with us he raised his hand he's like oof it's 20 for monster mash i don't know i don't know about this and like there's a fiddle player in the band and she's going absolutely not and like we were really we were chanting monster mash and sending them more money and i've never seen anything like this before. We're like, the band just stopped playing music for a while while they all looked at their phones. And I guess learned the song in front of us in real time. And at one point, the guitarist goes, I think I might have played this once on Halloween. And we were like, yeah, probably Halloween.

It's probably that. Oh, that one? This wasn't a Christmas ditty you learned? And he put the lyrics, he had like his phone attached to the mic stand and he put the lyrics going on his phone and this band fucking crushed Monster Mash like they'd been doing it their whole lives. They were doing the background vocals. They did the whole thing. We were so pumped. Eventually the bar got pumped with us and like we we went out to the dance floor and we're all doing the monster mash whatever we all think that dance looked like

we're not we're not even sure that the monster mass is a dance right no no and it's but we're all doing some approximation of a monster mash there are regional differences yeah of course. Also, if you're Dracula, it's a very different dance than if you're Frankenstein. And we did explain, hey, this would really mean a lot to us. Chris, our friend,

he loves the song and next month he's going to be Dracula. It would really mean a lot to him before that ceremony. How much do you guys think you spent on Monster Mash? Well over $200. Incredible. Thank you. No problem.

The bar was eventually on board with us. We got a lot of high fives and excitement. Right before the mash started, the singer was asking where we were all from and we said Jersey. And then some older guy came up to us

while we were saying at the bar. He's like, you're from Jersey? Where are you from in Jersey? And he shows me his shirt that he's got like whatever Jersey town it was in. And it was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. We're all originally from Monmouth County. And then I started hearing the monster mash

as this guy is talking to me. And I'm like, sir, I'm so sorry. I have to go. They're doing the mash. I have to go see about a song. Yeah. Oh, man. It made me.

So this is, say Soren, quick question. Uh-huh. What was dancing like for you growing up? I know it's probably different because you lived in a small town and you were educated in that haunted house cabin from yellow jackets but you had school dances or if not school dances you would go out places and there'd be music playing was there like did people dance in my little town of Footloose? No, absolutely not. I was, we, I'm not a good dancer, but it felt like our dance. That's not true.

I've seen you dance. Thanks, man. I think canonically though, for my branding, I'm not a good dancer. Okay, go on. It helps me seem accessible to the fucking freaks who love this show weird indoor goblins um but i feel like growing up we didn't have a lot of dancing options i didn't learn any dances and in jersey in the past at school dances it really felt like the thing you were doing was dicks and butts.

You would, we would want to find a girl who would dance with you. And then you would, I think we called it grinding. I don't know if it's, if that made it to the rest of the country. Mostly like school dancing, you stand in the corner at the wall and then hopefully you find someone to slow dance with

if an opportunity comes. And hopefully you work up courage to to do some dicks and butts grinding and that was the extent to most of our dancing there was that brief explosion of swing in the 90s that no one no one really likes talking about and so a few of us learned some swing dancing. But the thing that I found so cool about Nashville is the amount of people who all know line dances. And like there's something really heartening about a song playing and like people of different ages rushing up and like doing this practiced choreographed thing. It's something I think I would have loved to do as a kid. I, if not necessarily strictly line dancing, but just like the idea of, no, I'm going to learn this thing so I can dance with a girl at a place. And that's like so embedded in their culture, the amount of people who know these dances. And I think especially just coming from being not a very strong dancer.

So I was never just like out at a school dance or a club, just like moving to the music in any way. I'm mostly standing there talking to my buddies the whole time. I think it would be cool to every once in a while be like, oh, I know this song. Yeah, let's get up. Let's do this song. Let's take our feet and hop around. And it just seems like a fun cultural thing that we just did not have. You guys didn't ever do the Cupid Shuffle? No.

Feels like it's at every wedding I go to. That one is like, that's a very cheaty one. That one, it has like the approximation of a line dance, but it's a different type of music. And it's easy it's easy for everyone to do it looks good enough when everybody's doing it simultaneously that it's very fun to watch if you don't know it um and as you were talking about this i was like i don't think because we didn't have really dances in high school um but i did learn a lot of dance i learned what you're talking about is like you go to a bar or you go to a place and any Latin music comes on.

You could be like, I mean, I know how to salsa. I know the basics of salsa. That's cool. Let's just go. Like, let's go dance. And then you do that. And, you know, like three little flourishes that go along with it. And that's all you need.

Man. And what you learned for my wedding, we learned a waltz, which is like, you can do like a very slow waltz and it just looks like a good slow dance. Yeah, one, two, three. And we learned a box step, or I guess it's a foxtrot, but I don't know where the fuck I got all this. But yeah, I know all these dances. Yeah, I can get out there and I can be like, oh, no, let's see. Listen, listen, listen. Okay, there's, yeah, that's Foxtrot.

Let's just go do it. And then like you can do it. That's cool. I would be shocked if it turned out that all of my friends growing up were like, no, we could Foxtrot and Walt and Salsa. It was just you by yourself. But I don't, we didn't, I mean, like I remember school dances in middle school cause that was public school. And that was the same.

What you would expect. It's every movie presents it the same way as you have your arms around somebody. You just wobble back and forth for a while and then you're done. Yeah. And then I, in high school we would have occasionally like a live band would come, but it was always blue grassy.

Like it's not, it's very hippie dancing. You know, it's a lot of like arms to the sky stuff and i don't know where the fuck all those other dancing came from in my life where i learned this i mean it it's possible that you just took it upon yourself to do that because you're a person who likes to learn skills that could be useful somewhere. But even then, I don't know if you're Googling dances or... I don't know how I got the... I mean, salsa, I never even thought about it. I know like Salsa, traditional Salsa, and then like a couple of different moves. And fucking that's just like...

At this point, it feels very a priori. It feels like it was just in me from baked in. That can't be possible. Because I'm not a, I do not have like a good rhythm. That's cool. I'm jealous of that. I was jealous the entire time in Nashville. And like, I would, they weren't dancing to every song.

But like, very clearly, if it was a that that somehow they all knew the specific dance for it everyone was like there wasn't a question you're going to sit it out they're going to get up and they're going to dance that's why we're we're here we do this every weekend and i would leave my group and watch the dancers because i just think it's so i as a non-dancer i'm so impressed by it it feels like a magic trick and i just love watching it. I've, you know what? I, I totally agree with you. I agree with you. And like,

all of a sudden you see, especially line dancing, cause it's a bunch of people that all know it. It looks, it feels like you're in a flash mob or something, but just when you get out on a dance floor and then you see two people who know what the fuck they're doing and like are in rhythm together. And you're like,

holy shit, I'm watching something I shouldn't be seeing. I think this is a great, like they're're they are one person this is incredible there was one couple where uh she like they got like 19 and 20 or something like that um she is like dressed up as a a country person in nashville and they get these this one dance that like they fucking this is why they they left the house today is to do their dance it was different than the ones that a lot of the other people were doing and they'd incorporated like she does a cartwheel what yeah and she was like really feeling this music they're taking up space because they they're very serious about this

and i could see being who i am and looking at the guy, I could see just by his eyes, one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four, spin, spin, spin, spin, hands, hands, hands. And he's like, the level of concentration on his face. And I just think, that's awesome. This is like a thing that this couple can do together. It's on their list of things they can do. How cool.

He's Billy Joel in Uptown Girl, the video. You see him counting it out, like really sweating it. Stops lip syncing the song at one point. Tongue out trying to focus. Yeah. That's incredible. You saying that she does a cartwheel reminded me that there's also, when you get on a dance floor, there's kind of a hive mind to it all where there are certain people that everyone acknowledges are

better and those people get more space yeah like you everybody's gonna give everybody else the space that they deserve and no one's ever like but i'm not getting the space i deserve no we all just know what it is we all just like we have a really good sense of where we stand in the hierarchy and we give the space to the people who need it and that's such a like a beautiful thing we don't do anywhere else in life no anyway i love dancing i love obviously wedding dancing yeah i wrote a whole article about how fucking rad i am at wedding dancing well did you crack yeah do you remember that i cracked when it was it was certain i read it it's so long but it's a lot of like it starts with just me giving everybody else their their due like giving them a chance out on the dance floor letting them trot

grandma out there all that and that's like you have no idea what's about to happen like you don't know you understand the hiroshima shadows that I'm going to be leaving on the walls. Ah, silly times. Yeah. That was the instruction. That's right. This is starting to sound familiar. I will try to track it down on that, that broken fucking site. Um, I, I do love dancing though.

I love just like free dancing. Um, I get very nervous if somebody, if I'm just like having fun and then somebody else comes up and they want to dance with me. Cause I, unless it is one of those three dances that I know, I'm like, ah,

fuck. We can, we can kind of do the same thing, but yeah, I get very, I'm going to be doing a lot of shit and it's going to be hard. You're not going to want to do a lot of it. I get incredibly self-conscious dancing as I'm sure we've talked about on this show. I

want nothing more than to be a very good dancer. And I also, I know the wisdom. It's okay if it's at a wedding, just like relax and be comfortable and move around to the music and i and no one's gonna be pointing at you being like man that guy really can't dance i just i don't have it in me to do that every i've danced at every wedding that i've been to because i want to be a good wedding participant but i'm constantly in my head the whole time oh really yeah i think i'm just so drunk that I'm thinking the entire time, I'm thinking, this is going really good. Yeah. Even when I was having the greatest experience of my life doing the mash, doing the monster mash, I was still like looking at my,

the other 37-year-old Jersey freaks. I'm like, they seem to be having more fun than I am. They seem, I think that might, you know what? I think that might actually be the mash. I think what I'm doing is the twist, the monster twist.

And they're different. They're different moves. Different songs. Uh, well, I'm glad that the bachelor party was fun though. I'm glad you, you were responsible and got to bed early every single night,

Dan. Thank you. Um, did you guys responsible and got to bed early every single night, Dan. Thank you. Did you guys go to a strip club? No. I think in, I'm not telling any tales out of school, at your bachelor party, there was a very soft discussion, mostly to assure we were all on the same page i don't even know if you were part of that discussion but like yours was in vegas uh and there are lots of strip clubs in vegas and there were like private side conversations that were like i mean if if he really wants to go we can we can do that i'm not really a strip club guy but but you know we're gonna do what wants to do this whole trip and uh we and then i made you all go get your dick sucked

we ended up never going because what soren wanted to do was uh dive face first into the bottom of the pool you make it sound like that ruined the trip that was the very beginning i know that was the very first thing that happened the rest of the trip happened after that but i do there was a the night that justin had found like a bar for us and we our club for us and we had all gone out and then we had moseyed to another one somehow um that during that experience i you a few of you did come up to me and you're like, do, so do you want to go to strip club? And in my mind, I was like, no, I do not.

That's it. Does not sound like fun, but that's supposed to be what happens at a bachelor party. And I don't know if other people have hopes for that being what happens at a bachelor party. So in my, in my face, I was saying,

uh, yeah, like what, what, what's that? Like doing a heat check. Like, what does everybody else think?

Like, does everybody want to go? Yeah. We're all, we're all coming up with like, no one wants to say no outright. No one seemed to really want to go, but people were like,

I guess I would, oof, I guess I would have to find an ATM. So that's just one thing. I'm not saying, no, I'm just saying that's one thing to factor in is that we would need cash. Probably.

But after I finally spoke up and I was like, you know, I don't really want to go. All of you were like, oh, thank God. Okay, great. That's great. That's great. Everybody at once could reveal how they actually felt, which was great. Yeah. I have not been to a bachelor party that was a strip club bachelor party.

I feel great about that. I have. And every single time it's awful. And in fact, I've been to one where strippers came to the house. Oh, no. Yeah. So it's just a bunch of people in like a basement and a bunch of dudes in a basement and two strippers. But that's where I'm supposed to feel safe to take shits.

What do you mean you invited them? How dare you? And maybe, I assume, a big guy standing outside the door. I don't know. And it was so rough. Like, I hated it. I hated the, it felt, yeah, it felt like an intrusion. It felt like,

when do, when is this over? So we can play poker or something or some beer punk, like something let's play a sport. Let's do something fun. But there's like, you know, along with that,

it always seems like there's some, there's the necessity to embarrass or humiliate the bachelor using the, the stripper. And that whole thing I'm not so keen on. No. But it's always really gross and weird. Some sort of weird. And again, this is my understanding is framed by movies,

but some kind of tacit understanding that's like, ah, cheat on your fiance now. Yeah, it does seem like there's always at least one person in the group who's like, and now go to a room with her um but then there's a lot there's just like stuff out in the open where like who they they're they're on you know it too they say which one's the bachelor and then they have like this sense of like and now we're gonna like hurt him with our breasts yeah this isn't fun anybody else wants to hurt him no go away we're gonna handcuff him and laugh at his dick yeah this is his weekend it's the time for it it does make me almost it's given that that seems to be the way the world works in general like you want

to be part of the tribe so growing up I like growing up I mean like my 20s when I'd go to these like I'd want to feel like I should be there like I'd see everybody else and there'd be some other guys there who genuinely enjoyed it and I was like how do I get to that place I was fully prepared to put on a brave

face and and really pretend I was loving sitting in a strip club between Michael Swayman and Cody Johnston. Oh my God. Oh yeah. We went to... And phones weren't even good enough then for me to plausibly be on my phone at a strip club. This was still early enough in time that phones were pretty shitty so i would just have to be present we would just be searching a new ringtone out that was pretty much the

limitations of what you could do but yeah there was a we went to katie still's birthday at jumbo's clown room that's right and it was a that's like kind of like burlesque but i think it's topless burlesque yeah i enjoyed that like that was because there were i was allowed to just talk to people there and then occasionally when we didn't need to talk we'd be like well let's watch somebody who knows how to dance dance yeah the the level of skill of the performers there was very high these were like incredibly athletic people who who were like like circus performers in their, in their ability to like do fun tricks.

That, that was, that was fun. And then also seeing Katie or Milana or Stevie or somebody run up with a dollar bill. Yeah. I get very excited about the prospect of throwing a dollar bill at the stage and then running away.

Well, Dan, I have a question for you. Hit me. How familiar are you with the Frozen soundtrack? I saw the first Frozen once. That's all I want. Yeah. And I've listened to the Idina Menzel song. Cold never bothered me anyway. What are you laughing? Is that not what it's called? God. I've listened to that song 10,000 times, like her version. And also,

like her version. And also, I'll listen to any cover of that song that exists. And there was a weird, adorable trend on YouTube for a while where fathers and daughters would recreate lip syncing the song between Kristen Bell and- Love is an open door santino yeah yeah that one yeah they're just like do really cute lip-sync renditions of that father-daughter stuff so i've watched i've watched about a dozen of those too fascinating okay that's so you're you're my

musical guy you're the guy who like knows musicals a lot better than i do so i'm coming to you with this uh let me just like run you through the songs. First of all, there's frozen heart, which doesn't really count. That one's not like, there's not like a lot of songs that are a lot of lyrics to that, but then there's,

do you want to build a snowman? Which you probably know for the first time in forever. That's the first time they're opening up the castle for everybody. And it's, that's a Kristen bell song. Love is an open door. Let it go. Let it go let it go there's in summer that's the song by uh olaf the uh snowman who just is like dreaming of a day of

uh he wants to see what happens to snow in summer and then there's a song called fixer upper which is by the if you remember there are trolls in the movie for about 45 seconds that's right and they're singing about not chris yeah christoph christoph yeah christoph um anyway um my daughter has just gotten very into let it go and i i didn't understand even how she knew it but it was i guess at. It's pretty common for... They know that kids... It's like crack to kids. So when they're looking for something to do

and they want kids to dance, they're going to put this song on and the kids immediately, whether they've heard it before or not, are like, I love this. I love this. And I thought it's kind of because of the nature of the song.

When you listen to what the lyrics are, it has that element of glancing against some universal truth of like i don't want to be held back anymore i just want to be who i am and i feel like a lot of musicals have they're kind of pulling double duty with their songs because not only do they have to have something that feels like a universal truth or they're painting with these broad strokes that an ordinary song would do so that everybody can feel moved by a song but they also have to it has to advance the plot in some way and that gets tough but i can't understand how everyone can sing that let it go song open-throatedly like that when she's fucking wrong in the song like the song she's talking about how like her life's gonna be better

now like she's gone off into the woods by herself she's gonna do her magic and like just like let her powers be as big and bold as she wants them to be and that's a big mistake because she's freezing up all this she's freezing up this whole city and then i started looking at the other songs i'm like every single one of the songs in this is based on some like the people are misguided singing it. They're all wrong when they sing the song, which feels so different that, not only the Disney musicals, but like every musical I've ever seen. I mean, the immediate one that's coming to mind

as Disney musical is Lion King, I Just Can't Wait to Be King, where the entire song is, this kid's a piece of shit. I don't think he'd be a good king, which is a lesson he has to learn by the arc of the movie, the plot of it. Yes, that's true. Yeah, the way that he's describing it is like the way a child will understand it.

So yeah, you're right. Not having a reliable narrator feels very rare though yeah in musicals love is an open door is strange because it's like a a perfect cute romantic playful song uh and he's he's he's lying in it he's the bad guy right yeah yeah yeah and it's it's there's no you're you're so used to bad guys in these musicals having fun songs but still like scars be prepared is all about we're going to take over the the pride lands and and ursula's poor unfortunate souls like there's some edge to it that that makes it clear this one is bad. They're rarely as like toe-tapping and fun

as a con man pre-betrayal. Yeah. It's very strange that that's like it's as jaunty and fun as it is because they're both, I mean he's he's lying to her in the song but she's

also, like the song's not right you know like what by the end this message you're supposed to take is not like oh yeah love is an open door that's a really good point it's no it's not like that everything about this is like they're everybody's they're completely misguided so like to then sing that out of the context of the movie feels so bizarre and let it go is very similar in that respect where yeah let it go has like that has that feeling that it could be that kind of thing it's like i've been repressing this thing about myself for a very long time because i'm afraid of what people will think and fuck that like from now on i'm just gonna do it and that feels that that's cathartic and nice

but in this in the context of the movie she's she couldn't be more wrong she's fucking wrong she's killing people right she has to undo all that all that great character growth and be like no i should keep my gloves on and i should actually contain all this i should go back i was trying to control this before i should control it that's probably better and the the the josh gatt snowman song has made zero impact on me. Hearing your description, that sounds like it's also wrong because he will melt in summer. Yeah. Yeah.

That one, it feels very on the nose. And that feels along the same vein as Just Can't Wait to Be King, where it's the entire time you're listening to the song, you know that that's the joke. The joke is that they don't. Yeah. They don't get it. He he's talking a lot about like feeling his snow on the hot sand and stuff like that.

And there's moments of little asides between Anna and Christophe, where he's like, I'm going to tell him. And she's like, don't you dare. It's funny. It's good. Good,

funny song, but these other songs are not supposed to be funny there's not like we're not there's not some joke going on there it's it's like we get the song we're like yeah love is an open door and then half an hour later we're like no it's not yeah no it's not but the song's good let's listen to that some more and let's sing it and so i was just surprised that this one had some kind of staying power that it has had. Yeah. And so like when my daughter sings it, I'm like, yeah, let it go. But not too much,

right? That's what we learned. It's moderation. That's what we all learned. That is her lesson by the end of it, right? She is, she- Yeah. What happens in that movie? Okay. So she ends up, so it starts when she stabs her sister in the brain with ice. And then later she stabs her sister in the heart with ice. And Anna starts turning to ice. And in between all this, Anna had gone to go find her sister, who is now living in an ice castle.

Elsa's living in this ice castle up on the top of this mountain nobody can go to. this mountain nobody can go to and while she's doing this she is turning the entire fjord this whole area where like a city into a snowy hellscape yeah um all the boats are socked in with ice um people are freezing the animals are freezing to death um and uh it's bad it's real bad and she has to go find her to not only to like save her sister and be like hey are you okay but also to be like you gotta fix this um and by the end she learns that she can fix it she learns how to control her powers and fix it which is the fucking thing that they were doing at the beginning of the movie when they're like you gotta control these powers she's like yeah and we're supposed to feel really bad for her that she has to control her powers and so she gonna let them go you're like yes no no no actually that's not quite right we should let's go back to the thing we had before i'm gonna walk that back for doing the same thing like like again

damaging your sister in a pretty profound way kind of like a object like yeah an arguably worse way the trolls say it's worse. The trolls are like, good thing this happened to her brain. The heart is not so easy to change. And then she stabs her sister in the heart with mice. God. Yeah. And she does it because she's not in control.

She doesn't even mean to. She's not pointing anything at her sister. She just stamps her foot. Yeah. That's enough. Anyway, I think it's a fine movie. I watched it again with my children. I've watched it with Ronan a few times,

but just watched it recently with Gilly for the first time. And she loves that song. And I'm happy to let her listen to it. But I'm like, this is different. It just feels different than all the other ones. Yeah. Maybe I'll see that movie again. I watched it years ago on an iPad so I could write a cracked sketch about it and then just

let that information fly right out of my head. I let it go. What was the sketch this was um it's it's largely about what you were just talking about with her doing damage to the village it was a meeting between uh elsa and me who was playing an advisor just going through all the terrible things that have happened yeah to to the kingdom and how everyone's scared of you now and like the animals are dying this species of bug is dying this other animal relies on that bug to eat and now if those don't you know just like that the environmental ripple

effects of of her actions and uh and yeah and that's the that's the the that's great sounds great we shot it in that castle where you did the beauty and the beast thing yeah we got uh we got think pieced for that we did yeah that beauty and the beast one got think pieced did we deserve it no i looked back at it uh not too long ago because i was like what the fuck happened there um but it was a at a time when everyone was very excited to be think piecing and so we got caught up in that and that's fine yeah whatever but uh i don't think you need to see frozen 2 i'm probably not gonna i don't think you but i if you have not watched incanto like even like the last week watch that again i saw you tweeting about Encanto today. Oh, I just,

like, when I'm writing my script, I will stop every once in a while when I think I need a break and I'm like, I'm going to go check out Luis's song for a little bit. I just want to listen to that.

And I get absorbed into a different song as time passes where like at the beginning, I'd be like, nah, I'm not into that fucking what else can I do song. And then all of a sudden,

it'll grow on me. Yeah. I think that movie came out during a work hiatus because i remember having nothing to do and i think i watched it twice in a row that movie fucking rules the music is great lyrics are great really beautiful and cool to look at and just fun and different and yeah finish one one run through the movie and it's like i was having a good time i don't want to do something else now run it back so if you had a fun world to live in yeah um and the songs are just so good and i will say like there are moments where it like in louise's song um the fuck is that one called is that surface pressure which one is yeah yeah yeah that

pressure yeah surface pressure she's like doing that drip drip drip and she's dancing to it and she's kind of like moving her shoulder and i'm like shit man that 350 pound louisa made of pure muscle is really hot it It comes back to dancing. Like I just watch any of them dance and the minute one of them dances, I'm like, no, it's that one. That's the one I like. No, it's that one.

Yeah, that one. Okay, it's the cousin. She's dancing. Don't talk about Bruno and I like it. I was talking to one of my friends, I think Susan, about that movie after I'd first seen it because she had seen it too.

And she was talking about, you know, she's a she's, she's a mom. So she gets very emotional and, and seeing like big family stories like that. And I was like, yeah, I was getting emotional too. I teared up at a song or two. She said, what song? And I said, surface pressure. And she was like, oh, is it because that's what you think you're like?

I'm like, huh? I did. I did think I was thought of as someone who who could could shoulder responsibility and that no one needed to worry about but i see how transparent that sounds now so no i just like the beat goodbye i was worried about her that's all um there is that like there is some element of this like the older sibling they landed on that very nicely which is like the older sibling is the one who has to deal with all this stuff in the family and never really gets any credit for it yeah so listen watching that i it made me feel

so bad for my son i was watching it i was like i'm too hard on him. Pay attention to this one, boy. This is your future. Poor Gilly gets all this attention because she needs it. You're so good, and so we don't give it to you. Yeah. Anyway, I think it's a good movie. I think the songs just kick ass, man. They're so good. All right.

Oh, Dan, there's one more thing I wanted to tell you before we stop this. That's good. I don't have anything to say. I was with some friends, friends you know, Sam and Ed. We went to a soccer game a couple days ago. And as I'm like getting some ketchup for my fries, I'm over at the ketchup station and I see this woman come up and start talking to my friend sam and we're so for context for everyone listening at home we're like 40 to 41 year old men right and she starts talking to him she's she looks like she's maybe about 10

years younger but her body language is like it's it's it makes me think that they have a relationship and i'm like but that won't make sense because he's married and so like i went back over to him and she's like talking to him she's not even acknowledging me and then she's like all right well i'll see you later and she leaves and i just stare at him and i'm like like this look of like so now tell me what the fuck that was like what are you doing and he was he was like she just approached me and said that I caught her eye. And I was like, what? Incredible.

That must feel so good. You're going to ride that the rest of the week. Have that still happen in our lives or ever happen in our lives. Just someone in a stadium filled with people. Yeah. And she was like this attractive young woman who came up to him. She was just like, you caught my eye and just wanted to like meet him.

Good for Sam. Yeah. And so like the rest of the night, we're like, we were just throwing Sam on our shoulders basically. Yeah. You've got it, Sam.

You've got it. And then we had a premiere party for American dad. Cause we just had our, Oh yeah. It came back last Monday, right? That's right. We went went to a bar after the bar a few of us went to another bar and i was trying to pick songs in the jukebox this uh woman came up to me and she said uh what are you picking and i was like i was like laying it out for her and she's stopped for a minute and stepped back and looked at me she's like wow you are a fine

looking white man and i was like oh and so immediately i was like i don't even know if i responded to her i just ran away and texted sam yeah to be like something's happening man we got it we got it right now this is our time man just hearing that that, if that's like a person who struggles with decision making and making the right call, that is my nightmare. If I'm picking a song and then some attractive woman comes up and asks me what I'm picking, my brain is immediately going to be like, I am every woman. What's the right answer? every woman what's the right answer what about one of the ones about fiona apple getting assaulted sexually because i think it's important to talk about tori amos is that a good one i don't i'm not familiar with her works but i understand women generally like her i know right now it looks like i'm on the page for monster Mash. Give it time. I'm on my way to

Madonna. I'm working backwards. It was such a good feeling though. Later that night, she was outside smoking when I left and she called me a silver fox and I was like, I'm going to carry this with me. Sure. This feels great. Everybody should tell me how, even if they

don't mean it, just tell me something. Tell me how great looking I am. She should quit smoking it was it was quite a night and it was it felt like it was on the heels of sam getting that and i think all of us as soon as it happened we were like god did that ever did that ever used to happen for me like when i was at my at my peak was that happening did people just approach you i thought i don't think it did i think i want to remember that i wonder anyway if it's just the age where where it's like oh he's like probably probably married he's got a ring he's definitely married i could just like this is this is there's no sense i could just say this yeah it's not real and they actually it's real everybody should be doing yeah i know what i'm actually i just i

realize i just now just advocated for catcalling and i i don't want that can i can i can i tell you what's what's crazy what this happened to me in nashville yes yes it was uh an older married woman but like you know a yeah an attractive older married woman we were heading back to our uh airbnb and she and someone else were heading back to theirs which was in like the same complex and uh they clearly had had some drinks but everyone in the world had drinks that weekend and uh they said what are you doing we said bachelor party they said bachelorette party we all we and the the woman was saying, what about strippers? I was like, I don't think

we're going to strippers. She was like, no, no, no, no, no. You guys come be our strippers. We need strippers. You guys will do it. And we laughed at that. Like, that's funny and polite things to say. And then she kept touching me, like hands on my shoulders and chest. And she was like, you really, we should take this one back with us. You kept it really tight.

This is, you're so cute cute this one's cute and uh we're like all right we'll we'll see you all later we'll we'll swing by later knowing that like she mentioned being married and and that there were that she has like kids and there was an age difference between us it was just like it felt so harmless it It felt like, no, I'm not going to show up at your door and take my clothes off for you. And you don't want that either. It's just nice to flirt. And they walked away and I was just like, with my sweet supportive bros, I was like, that felt really good.

I really needed that. That's awesome. What a kindness. What an absolute kindness someone has shown me yeah i think when it is all very surface level like that it's actually i i'm not gonna even advocate because i know that it's different for girls i know yeah yeah and for women who are inundated with that and it gets very annoying and also when they they don't get they don't answer properly that the man will get mad like there's there's all kinds of problematic things

associated with this but maybe that's because that's why women are so good at it yeah is that they are familiar with how it goes they know the very best way to approach it like the angle of approach and they do it and then they're out and you're just like oh my heart is singing that felt great what a thrill. I'm so glad that happened for you. Something's going on. Something's in the air. Me too. It's the summer of good boys.

I wasn't initially, it's May. I wasn't, that's March. That's not. Oh boy. It's not even. And May would have been early.

I wasn't originally... That was on the list of things that happened in Nashville, but I wasn't going to bring it up because it doesn't feel like a very on-brand story for me. And I don't know if it'd be the kind of thing that anyone wanted to hear about. But as you're talking about Sam and then talking about you, I was just like, there's something in the air.

There's some kind of switch has been flipped. I don't understand if it's our rough ages that people feel more comfortable approaching us or if it's something in the air or something in the water. I don't know. Based on these three data points, something is fundamentally different forever i hope so i'm gonna spend more time in crowds and just do some research yeah i just want to post up somewhere me did you did you want to say anything

you don't okay that's fine a lot more fish in the sea. All right, dude. Yeah, good catching up. It's been a while. We skipped a week, I think. Yeah, it's been a long time. It's good to hear from you. And I'm going to do our business here. Cool.

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