Red Scare - CNN Clown Hall

Episode Date: May 13, 2023

The ladies discuss Trump's CNN Town Hall and E-Jean's $5M civil suit against Trump, the subway chokehold death incident and zoomer Marine manslaughter charge, the King Charles coronation, and more....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're back, we're back. I have nothing to add to this conversation. We're, we're so back, it's over. How are we so back? And it's so over at the same time. Welcome to Red Scare Pond. Skateboards. ASMR.
Starting point is 00:00:49 ASMR. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's wood decks hitting the pavement. You can kill a man with a skateboard. Sure can. You want to open your present? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:09 We'll do an unboxing. Sorry. I'm very low energy today because I'm hungover. We were podcasting last night. We're working overtime this week. So now we're going to do the part of the show where one of us gets the other one a gift. Yeah. Dasha went to a little Armenian show.
Starting point is 00:01:27 I went to an Armenian small Armenian business bazaar, which was very Armenian. Armenians are the ultimate small businessmen. They, they're like bazaar hagglers, but they're also like medically short. Yeah. They have, we're selling like, I don't know, pita bread or whatever. Chodzki's at the wash. It's like turquoise jewelry and cross is, I posted a picture of a t-shirt that had the New Yorker logo.
Starting point is 00:02:03 It is the Armenian, which I, I was really like, well, I almost got you one of those shirts or the one that had like, it was like the Boston Celtics logo. It's not a diptych candle. I put it in a diptych candle box. But the shirts were not, I didn't think you would like the quality of them. What was wrong with the quality? They were kind of like chintzy Jersey, like a little like flimsy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Dude, I'm pissed at Brandy Melville because I went in there yesterday and they have these gorgeous tote bags with like Roman designs. It's like the Trevi fountain and the Spanish steps. Yeah, one that's like Paris, the Eiffel Tower, but they're printed on like that scratchy like threadbare material that, you know, is just going to fall apart in one day. Yeah. And I think they want like $25 for it. I have a brandy tote that says Brooklyn in the Nirvana font.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And yeah, it's to, I like a flimsy tote, but. Oh, that's so cute. You can give one to Nina. There are some ornamental keychains of like a mommick and bobby type figures. One's a magnet, one's a keychain. These are very cute. Love them. Aren't they adorable?
Starting point is 00:03:27 They are very cute. I really wanted to find them and that's a magnet. And a magic carpet magnet. I really wanted to get something for the baby, but they only had like kind of toddler sized clothes and no shade to the Armenian community, but they also were not a fine quality. But it's good. They're all supporting each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:57 That's nice. Armenians are like the ultimate ethno-narcissists. They're so nationalistic in such an annoying way. Yeah. I want to sign up for this Armenian like newsletter that will inform you about different bills that are being passed. And I was like, what bills are even being passed about Armenian? I guess there's a war.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Is the war still going on? Yeah. That sucks. The Azeris blockade his car box, so there's like no way to get out. Damn. That sucks. And I think maybe they like one convoy. It's really, it's really horrible and bad.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And breaks my heart. Yeah. But I hate weighing in on it. Why? I mean, because I, I have like a cringe response when it comes to Armenian hypernationalism. What do you mean a cringe response? Because they're like so loud and proud and I'm just like, I hate this. But I get it.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I get where they're coming from. Yeah. I feel, I mean. I do feel like solidarity with the Belarusian people. Yeah. Of course. Even if I think they're like, protests are misguided or more complicated than it would seem or something like that.
Starting point is 00:05:15 It's like, I still am like, yeah, there should be a Belarus. Of course. Yeah. Totally. I mean, I obviously feel solidarity with Armenians, especially Karabakh Armenians, because they're my people and they're being actively oppressed, but for sure, long live the Armenian Republic and fuck those Azeri dogs. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I agree. They suck. I can't even enjoy the memes of the Azeri leader and his plastic surgery wife. If they belong to any other country, I'd be like, yo, look at this couple. But yeah, you don't even want to boost them like that. Yeah. For sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I can't even admit that she's hot because I'm so angry at the Azeri people. Um, well, we have, we've got some stuff on the docket. It's been a while since we've done a solo pod. That's true. So stuff has happened since then, I guess. Trump did a town hall yesterday and he sure did. Killed it. He's unstoppable.
Starting point is 00:06:27 My man. I know. I love when he's on fire like that. Me too. He was on point, really, um, brought into sharp relief how senile Joe Biden is. Oh yeah. He could never be clapping back like that. Because Trump is definitely like demented and delusional, but any delusion or dementia
Starting point is 00:06:47 he may have comes from like an early age and it's not a problem. He's been demented for a long time. Yeah. And he's been on his own Gemini tip for a minute. I just love the way he talks. I mean, and then actor, he is, he's a total, he's really like a G. I think he's a genius. He's really channeling something.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Yeah. Amazing. I do love his little self-satisfied, cunty expressions that are mesmerizing. I love how he kept saying the economy was rocking, rocking and rolling. I have some quotes. I was literally sitting there like transcribing Trump quotes. I love when he pulled out that print out of his tweets. He just like me for real, yeah, the tweet dossier.
Starting point is 00:07:44 This is on the American economy before COVID. Like literally we were making a fortune. That's how I felt that one night when we made like 30 K on Isis merch in two hours before we were de-platformed by Shopify. We were rocking and rolling for sure. Shopify is my pandemic. They really, I mean, we don't need them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:08 We're doing, we're doing just fine with our own shoddy tote bag bench. And I love how he pivoted all of her attempts to cross-examine him into like stand-up bits. Amazing. Well, she came, they came out the gate talking about election fraud and she kept trying to get him to admit the election wasn't stolen and then quipping herself out of Caitlyn Collins. That's her name. Well, when I first saw her, I was like, she's pretty hot.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah. And seems cool. And as the night wore on, she really started to grade on me. Ball buster. Yeah. I know every time she kept being like, well, the election wasn't stolen. So, um, yeah, that's not true. You know, it's like, just let, let him cook.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Yeah. Has Trump ever met anyone who's funnier than him? Probably not. I don't know. My hot take though is that he really does need to stop harping on the election rigging stuff. That was the first town hall question. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I was like, are you going to stop talking about it? Which he, yeah, kind, and he said soar in his condue, he said, yeah, well, let's just win it again. He'll never stop, um, yeah, he, he agreed to suspend polarizing talk of election fraud during the election unless he said he saw election fraud in which case he has an obligation to point it out when he said he hopes to see voter ID one day elections and paper ballots instead of mail-in votes, which honestly is making some points. I feel like the mail-in votes actually couldn't have hurt it.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Like, I don't know. I don't see that necessarily being advantageous for him, but I agree in general, yeah, there should be like one election day where people go down to the polls. Yeah. Like in Brazil. Is that what they do? That's like the joke that a country like Brazil counts votes much more quickly and efficiently than America, but I feel like him leaning into the election fraud stuff makes him look
Starting point is 00:10:20 like a sore loser with the normies. I mean, some shit definitely went down, but a lot of people think my therapist doesn't think the election was stolen because I spin my wheels about Trump all the time. This was like, by the way, like, I don't think the election was stolen. And I was like, oh, you know, I was like, I guess a lot of people probably don't think the election was stolen. Yeah, they definitely don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Why would they? It's probably off putting an alienating to normies, even if they suspect that something could have happened and there was some tampering. Like I think it's time for him to like just move on and see revenge on the Dems by winning again. Yeah. I agree, though, I like like saying win again or like just eluding to the fact that he's won a prior election.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I think is okay. It's permissible. Yeah, and she kept sort of contesting him by harping on the point that evidence shows that there was no election fraud and experts even within the Republican Party have testified to this. Yeah. Okay. And, you know, whether or not any fraud occurred and of course some fraud did occur, but whether
Starting point is 00:11:43 or not any fraud that really tipped the scales occurred is like an open question. But the bigger point is that the last election really made people lose faith in the electoral process and it was polarizing because now we're split into two camps. People who think that there was no election rigging and people who think that there definitely was. Yeah. I am agnostic a bit and don't think it really matters. I think like, I guess I'm a little black pilled and that I think like corruption is part of
Starting point is 00:12:21 the political process and you have to be Machiavellian in your, you know, quest for power. It's not, we don't, it's not a democracy. Exactly. He's a businessman and a negotiator according to his own words. So he knows how that works. So I think it would be a ball or win or move to just move on. To just move on and yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And to not take the bait because the media is going to keep pressing him on it. Well, that's because yeah, they use the election rigging stuff as a segue to talk about January 6th, which is what Caitland did. They should have gotten Caitlyn Jenner, honestly, the host of the town hall. Very interesting. Yeah. I love Caitlyn Jenner. And she's taking Tucker's spot on, oh, really?
Starting point is 00:13:20 No, I don't know. I don't know if they, I don't think they know who's, they're like slotting in different people. Every night. I love when she asked him if he has any regrets about how he handled January 6th. And he said, I don't want to bore the audience. Crazy Nancy, as I affectionately call her. Crazy Nancy Pelosi.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And then he proceeded to pull out the print out of the tweets to prove that he didn't incite the crowd on that day. They took it down because it was so good. They didn't like it. That's about his Twitter. Same. And then she, we've all been there. We've been there, Mr. John.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I like how he pivoted her question about whether it wasn't her question, it was like a question from like a Republican or undecided voter. They were all like undecided voters who voted for him prior. Who are these people? They're not undecided if you voted for him prior. I think it's just beneficial to sort of say that because it gives you, then you get to ask a question at a town hall. But he said he would be inclined to pardon a large portion of the Jan Sixers and then
Starting point is 00:14:29 launches into an attack on Antifa and BLM, which honestly work. Yeah. Serve. That was cool. Obviously the thing that everybody's talking about are his comments on the Eugene verdict. Yeah, which people were, he was already kind of coming out with the Zingers in the deposition video. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Um, right. He said for approximately a million years, famous men have, uh, she also did a country thing where she was like, you said that men were allowed to grab women by the pussy and he was like, I said women let them, which I was like, actually, that's what I've been saying all these years. Women give their consent to you if you're famous. It's so unfair. He's literally relaying a statement of fact, not a value judgment.
Starting point is 00:15:23 He's making an observation about reality. He's not offering his own personal opinion and how the world should work. I'm sure his personal opinion dovetails nicely with how the world happens to work because it's like served him thus far, but still, yeah, when they brought up, when she brought up, Eugene, Carol, the audience started, I don't know if the audience started laughing immediately. She was like a jury verdict indicted you of a count of sexual assault against Eugene, Carol.
Starting point is 00:15:54 People already started laughing because they knew because they, they laughing, my man laughing because he know he said this woman, I don't know her. I've never met her. I have no idea who she is. I had a picture taken years ago with her and her husband, nice guy, John Johnson. He was a newscaster. Okay. And she called him an ape.
Starting point is 00:16:14 He happened to be African-American. The judge wouldn't allow us to put that in. Her dog or her cat was named vagina, vagina in that voice. Her dog or cat. The judge wouldn't allow us to put that in. Why would that be evidence? Because in that civil trial, they were, they aired that access Hollywood pussy grabbing clip.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Yeah, but that's a matter of public record and it's pertinent to the charges against him. I don't see what her naming her dog or cat vagina has anything to do with. Well, I think, I think he's suggesting that she's like a crash actually fixated. Yeah. She's a rat. She's an untrustworthy person. I just love how he says vagina and China and he said, why is it that Biden had nine
Starting point is 00:17:04 boxes in Chinatown where they don't even speak English? It's awesome. She couldn't control him without, it was just like, Oh my God, he's talking about Chinatown. How did they like not prepare for the fact that they won't be able to manage them and like, the one thing about German eyes is that they're unmanageable. I thought about going back and listening to the episode of the pod where we originally addressed the e-gene accusations, but then I gave up who she was. She's like an advice columnist with big wooden teeth like Gary Busey.
Starting point is 00:17:42 She looks like Gary Busey in a dress. She's not as type as she's made very clear. I think her whole problem in life is that she's not anyone's type because she has like a rich inner world of being sexy and desirable, but she's not because she has kind of a stick up her ass. That's why she has this fantasy at the burgdorff Goodman dressing room. When Trump does lay it all out, you are kind of like, it does make no fucking sense. Yeah, it sounds really fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It sounds like that paperback erotica they used to sell in supermarkets to wine moms. You see a real estate mogul at the department store and he ravages you in the dressing room. She sounds horny for Trump. She is. Anyway, to make a long story short, I gave up on trying to find that old episode because frankly I don't want to listen to the sound of my own voice if I didn't have to. I opted to view that old clip of e-gene on Anderson Cooper where she's like, no rape is sexual with this deranged delight in her eye and then he immediately cuts to commercial
Starting point is 00:18:50 and she's like, it's some people think it's about power and he's actually about sex. But this whole scandal really like made it clear that she seems just like horny for Trump. Yeah, I agree. And no one's buying it. It's also just so like, he's to pay her $5 million. Yeah. Well, her claim is that she didn't speak a word about the incident to anyone for 20 years except for two of her closest friends and only came out with this allegation in like
Starting point is 00:19:33 2019 or 2020 when she happened to be peddling a memoir. Yeah. I mean, none of it adds up in the fact that of course it's like a civil suit, not a criminal suit. So he's not actually facing any criminal charges or jail time. And she's just trying to keep suing him for money. And he has all these other court cases pending the Stormy Daniels hush money case, the family fraud case.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I think there's like some other cases outside of New York, like in Georgia for election tampering and inciting violence on January 6th. Right. They're really trying to keep them down. Yeah. I think it's based from the outside looking and it's starting to look that way. Definitely. But they need him so died.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Like, and then the post town hall like outrage that on CNN that aired the town hall, that was funny too that CNN opted to air this event and then, you know, they wanted to bring him in for the ratings. Of course, they need it. They need him. It was just like an MSG standup special. Um, AOC said CNN should be ashamed of themselves. They've lost total control of this quote town hall to again be manipulated into platforming
Starting point is 00:20:52 election disinformation, defenses of January 6th and a public attack on a sexual abuse victim. The audience is cheering him on and laughing at the host. I was like, so true. Shut the fuck up, bitch. AOC also famously said that Daniel Penny was a murderer and then Eric Adams and Alvin Bragg of all people came out and like clapped back at her and we're like, not so fast sister. Let's wait for the investigation to turn up the results.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah. We're really, are we are really going to be hearing about January 6th? Like forever. Yeah. I hate it. I know. Meanwhile, all these people are literally like rotting in white Guantanamo. So it's such an opposite day clown world and, but I, I do, I've gained a newfound appreciation
Starting point is 00:21:44 for AOC because she's literally like leftist millennial Trump. She's doing her own thing. She serves the same purpose. She's doing her own dog and pony show. Yeah. By getting her own agenda and bothered on Twitter. Yeah. Of course.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But nobody, nobody can beat Trump. And actually I think what this town hall did is probably, um, really solidify for quote undecided voters that they should hit the Trump button. Playing hanky-panky in a dressing room. I feel bad for John Johnson. Right. And she was asking him about the aging Carol stuff being like, do you think this is going to affect, like, do you think women won't vote for you?
Starting point is 00:22:26 He was like, no, of course they will. I know. I was like, my ratings are up. He was like, he can't, whoo. I know. I know the poll number show. I like that question because I was like, yeah, of course, women are not going to be affected by this verdict.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Why would they care? Yeah. Ordinarily when a woman cocks her husband with another guy, the other guy is black and the husband is white. So I feel especially bad for John Johnson. Well, I don't think, I believe him when she says she's not as tight. That's what he said in the deposition again, and he was like, and you're not my type either. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:02 And I love how he said that he doesn't know her and he's never a matter, which is by far the most defamatory thing you can say about Eugene Carroll. Definitely. I don't know who that is. Yeah. Yeah. Not that whatever else he said that she was like a liar and a fraud. That's what she sued him for and got the damages for.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah. Definitely. Right, right, right. It's going to affect her memoir sales. And she claims that he really put an end to her romantic life. What? Because he fucked her so good. John Johnson cocked again.
Starting point is 00:23:31 This guy can't catch a break. Because he, why? Why would that have to do with her romantic life? Because of the assault? Because she was so traumatized, girl. She was so shook. I wanted to use some reconnaissance and read some Eugene columns, but I didn't get around to it.
Starting point is 00:23:50 They'd probably be pretty illuminating. Definitely. I'm sure they would do a whole psychological profile. She's one of these. Like what was that woman, Helen Gurley Brown? That Vogue editor? I don't know. What's the book she wrote that was like about being a slut and owning it?
Starting point is 00:24:12 The ethical slut? No. There's so many of those books. Sex and the Single Girl. Hers was the first one. It came out in 1962. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:21 So she's to blame. Yeah. And also, how old is Eugene Carroll? She's in her 60s, that's what Trump said. Now. So she was in her 40s when the alleged Bergdorf Goodman, Hankie, Pankie, 79 now. So she was. Oh, he said she was in her 60s then.
Starting point is 00:24:39 So she's definitely not his type. Absolutely not. That's not some variety, vulgar rapist who crawls through a window to defile a geriatric woman. That's great. Okay. That is actually crazy. That's nuts.
Starting point is 00:24:56 That makes no sense. I know, none of it adds up. He's not even a, he doesn't have a rapey profile at all. Trump? No. His libido is totally like normal, like it feels lower end of normal, probably, I would guess. It's like informed by women's magazines.
Starting point is 00:25:19 What I love about Trump. He doesn't seem even like interested in sex, you know? I mean, obviously he's had it, but yeah, he's had it. How many kids to see at five? Yeah. He's had it five times. I bet him and, uh, what's her face, Ivana had a good sex life. I can picture what kind of a guy Trump is in the bedroom, which is like not at all aggressive
Starting point is 00:25:44 or kinky and just kind of like normal and dopey, like in and out. Yeah. Kind of maybe a little egoically, you know, I don't, I don't think he's like losing himself in the act. He's probably like active in some like ego validation, you know? And it's so crazy. Which is why he wouldn't rape a six-year-old woman in a burglar goodman dressing room. It's, it just doesn't, it sounds like a, it sounds like a sex in the city fantasy.
Starting point is 00:26:16 There's nothing. Yeah. I read like the New York Times article about this verdict in a later statement. She said, I filed this lawsuit against Donald Trump to clear my name and to get my life back today. The world finally knows the truth. This victory is not just for me, but for every woman who has suffered because she was not believed, but she wouldn't need to clear your name.
Starting point is 00:26:35 If you didn't come up with these trumped up charges to begin with, because nobody would know who you are. I'm like old enough to remember when E Jean was still a columnist. I never read her columns because they were like out of my age bracket and I was reading like, what did she write for? I think L. Oh, it's so weird. But she was like, you know, like a saucy broad about town.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I would have kept it at that. That's like a good reputation legacy. That's a totally good run. You don't need to, I don't know, but these boomers too, they're really sick. Like the Trump stuff really broke their brains in a way. I mean, it did for a lot of people, I think, but yeah, a lot of boomers were hardest hit because then they really preyed on like with the Russiagate stuff and the, you know, I could see how if you're like an old person who's confused and scared.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Yeah. There's no reasoning with them. So I lie through my teeth every time I talk about Trump with a boomer. I'm just like, yeah, I have to watch this garbage town hall. It's part of the media circus. I'm a Democrat and then I like lock myself in my room, like a weird anime and watch it on repeat and cheer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:01 My phone like recognizes him as like a person because I have so many pictures of them. Trump ruined her romantic life because she was so horny for him. She could never recover. She couldn't. She never. I get girl. I get it. It's crazy to have that be your last act, though, she has this very hysterical, consuming
Starting point is 00:28:20 female energy that's fearsome to behold. It makes me uncomfortable. I know. It makes my skin crawl. It's like what's her name, Norma Desmond and Sunset Boulevard. Just wearing a turban and a cape and bossing around some boy lover. She's on some gray gardens ship, but in public, unfortunately. I love broads like that when they keep their trap shut.
Starting point is 00:28:48 When they like stay in their lane, when they stay in their lane and they keep their opining to like fashion and yeah, baby relationships. Yeah. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. I want to look into what kind of relationship advice she was giving. Yeah. In her heyday as an L advice columnist because I bet it was bad.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I for sure have not heard of her prior to this and then forgot who she was until now. This is also interesting. This is from the New York Times. During his instructions to the jury on Tuesday, the judge explained their three options for finding Mr. Trump liable for battery, meaning an assault on Ms. Carroll, that he had raped her, sexually abused her or forcibly touched her. A unanimous vote would affirm that Ms. Carroll had proven that it was more likely than not to be true that he had committed an offense.
Starting point is 00:29:38 The judge explained, in a criminal case, when jurors are asked to assess guilt, they must meet the much higher standard of beyond a reasonable doubt. It was not clear why jurors chose the lesser offense of abuse over rape. I think it's totally clear because the graver offense of rape wouldn't hold water. Like it doesn't seem plausible. So they had less of a chance of winning money for her. Right. I'm looking at the Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:30:08 For who? Eugene or Trump? Eugene Carroll said that on her way out of the store, she ran into Trump and he asked for help buying a gift for a woman. After suggesting a handbag or a hat, the two reputedly moved on to the lingerie section and joked about the other trying some on. Carroll said they then ended up in a dressing room together. The door of which was shut and Trump forcefully kissed her, pulled down her tights and raped
Starting point is 00:30:29 her before she was able to escape. Trump also seems like the type of guy weirdly, even though he's so egoic and bloviating that he would be kind of like shy and awkward with women one-on-one, which he, you know, papers over with bravado and machismo. Yeah, exactly. Like he's not capable of real uncomfortable intimacy, such as trapping a woman in a burgdorfs fitting room and like inserting his weird penis into her vagina. He definitely like probably wants like head.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I don't know. He seems like he seems like he has exceptionally normal proclivities and that he wants like a glamorous chick with big tits to like service him essentially. Like a $10,000 like Elie Saab dress with like a diamond necklace that he can look at. Yeah. She said on CNN that Trump quote just went at it that he quote pulled down my tights and it was a fight. So horny.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I know. I'll say it with great respect. Number one. She's not my type. Number two. It never happened. Yeah. Number one.
Starting point is 00:31:56 She's not my type. I'm sure somebody has. That's a really good defense, honestly. It's the best defense. I'm sure someone's written like a primer on Trump's rhetorical tactics, but I love when anybody tries to like dispute any of his claims or corner him into admitting wrongdoing. He just like doubles down on his achievements. I know and like changes in accomplishment to like insult you in a weird way too.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I like also what he said on the Dobbs decision. He said that bringing it back to the States wasn't the biggest thing. Getting rid of Roe v. Wade was an incredible thing for pro life because it gave pro life something to negotiate and then he proceeds to take credit for the overturn of Roe v. Wade. I love how he just like takes credit for everything. Yeah. Like aggressively and enthusiastically.
Starting point is 00:32:38 He's like, they've been trying to do it. She's like, Republicans. Yeah. Then yeah. And he's like an I did it and the baby at nine months, they kill the baby. I love when he talks about babies. Yeah. He says he happens to believe in and in the exceptions of life of the mother rape and
Starting point is 00:32:56 incest. He's just like us. For real. Well, she also was really pressing him on like what he would, would he institute a federal ban and at what point would he and he was like, here's, I already answered your question. He's like, what I want to do is make a great decision. Yeah. I don't know what he's like not answering it, but saying he's going to do something
Starting point is 00:33:17 great, brilliant. Well he said he was, he would negotiate because he's a great negotiator. That's what he does for a living and that's what he's known for. Very presidential. And like he's not wrong as a politician. He will probably try to be amenable to his constituency. And I don't think he really wants to sign in a nationwide abortion ban because he's not really pro-life.
Starting point is 00:33:41 He also, yeah. I don't think he cares. He's agnostic on abortion. He definitely doesn't care. He's going to do what's right. Yeah. You want a person like that who really has no dog in the fight to arbitrate the abortion debate because there's too many zealots on both sides.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Exactly. I like that he said the other side is radical. The side saving lives. Yeah. And was talking about like leftists and activists like hacking babies to pieces at nine months or once they're out of the room. Or once they're born. And I was like, what is he talking about?
Starting point is 00:34:17 That's really powerful. And I like when he talks about, it always gets me when he talks about the migrants, how they're coming out of jail and out of mental institutions. I'm like, that, I'm like, oh, man, 15 million people from 129 different countries. I'm like fact check, but that's scary out of the right out the mental asylum. Yeah. He's like literally our most presidential president. I like, he called himself the most consequential president because he's saved so many lives.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And you know, he made some good points. He said that what he did was give the pro life people negotiating ability, which is true. He handed itself up to the states. He also, I think very diplomatically clarified his family separation at the border policy. What did he say? He said it sounds harsh, I know, but it acts as a deterrent for people flooding into the country because families love each other and they won't come in the first place if they fear that they'll be separated.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And it's true because, you know, leftists and liberals like to make the after the fact case that people come and are separated, which is like inhuman and unthinkable, but he's making the point that the policy exists so they won't be separated in the first place because they'll be deterred. They're scared straight, which I, you know, no comment, but it's a good point. I like how he handled that. Yeah. No, everything they threw at him, he really didn't miss out.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And the town hall is a good forum for him, I think, because the people really love him and he feeds off the energy of the crowd and he's able to do his little routines and stuff. And then yeah, people just respond well to him. I have to tell you, I was expecting a much more hostile crowd. I don't know where they found these people, but they were eating it up. Yeah. And by the end of the night, he really won them over. I mean, he's already, but the mainstream media is back to its sick and twisted little
Starting point is 00:36:29 games of trotting him out only to try to tarnish his reputation because they need him. They need him. For like clicks and ratings. Yeah. Dumb. You know, I was thinking, like, who would agree to do this because Trump is absolutely going to mug you if you're like a humorless mainstream blue check type person? Caitlin.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I thought she was really well selected. She obviously didn't. It's hard. You can't, as like a lib, you really can't match Trump cause you're not going to be as charming or funny. Kind of no matter why you can't really match him. So I think that Caitlin Collins was well selected cause she was like attractive enough. And she was toweringly tall, which is important.
Starting point is 00:37:21 She was like imposing and I think the fact that she was a woman cause did the bare minimum of reeling Trump in. Yeah. Like if it had been some like Norwood as some CNN cuckold, he would have just like swept the floor with him, but she kind of held her own. She was a ball buster and she, yeah, she really took every opportunity to remind him that the election was not stolen or like, she had like her facts really, she really knew like what she was.
Starting point is 00:38:01 She had purpose. Yeah. She was girl bossing it. Maybe in one of the group chats had Radfemme and Hitler. I don't mind Caitlin Collins. I know she's getting a lot of flack and hate and people are calling her trans. I thought she did a good job for the, you know, she did what she could do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:32 She's no Rachel Maddow. What happened to that bitch? She's still on television. I'm sure. I don't know. Interesting. I haven't heard from her Anderson Cooper. I think they still are on television, but the ratings are probably not that good.
Starting point is 00:38:52 No. And no one's like, it doesn't work really the other way. Like the right doesn't circulate like live media as much. Yeah. Yeah. He said about the grab them by the pussy clip. I can't take it back because it happens to be true for millions of years, approximately millions of years, perhaps a little longer than that.
Starting point is 00:39:25 That's awesome. Millions of years. And she asks him whether he stands by those comments and he says, I don't want to lie. He's staying saying the truth. He is just, he's constantly saying the truth on truth social, right? He's not. They're begging him to come back to truth. He's on truth social now.
Starting point is 00:39:46 But I'm really happy. Like that's the thing that I'm ecstatic about that he handled that thing so well because it's literally been a thorn in my side for years that this grab them by the pussy clip has gotten so much mileage and people are so outraged. I mean, it was a huge like animating motif in the pussy hat feminist movement. It was like he really, oh, he did a number on these rods. These tricks went out every year, you know, pussy hat with signs about how they were going to grab him by his pussy, but I was like, it was so, but they're still going to keep
Starting point is 00:40:28 harping on it. Of course. Yeah. I don't think it's going to win over convert anyone who's like vehemently anti-Trump. I feel like you have to be such an NPC to really be so anti-Trump, I feel like you have to be so humorless and just like, oh, you're just going to do whatever they tell you to do. Or just like a boomer who doesn't engage with the material at hand, which again freaks
Starting point is 00:40:54 me out because we're all going to be a boomers one day. Something will break our brains. Definitely. Yeah. No, I think it's inevitable. So I hope that I'm going to be very far from the internet micro celebrity spot like when something finally breaks my brain. So I don't have to have like another humiliating tour.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Like a Joyce Carol Oates asked, did you see she posted that pic of like the uptown E-train at noon? Yeah. It was actually weird and intrusive because there was like two millennial chicks sitting there and they're like, uh, I know, derelict fashion. I know. I can really picture her like trembling, like taking that photo and like people who didn't ask to have their picture taken on like, yeah, of course the train isn't always bad.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Well, it is on the downtown F yeah, but the uptown E is, but take that a little further into Queens. I'm such a white pussy that every time they do showtime, I'm just afraid of getting kicked in the head. Same, I'm always flinching, but I'm always, I personally like really like showtime and I do be giving them money out of my liberal guilt and they never kick. I've never seen, and you know, if there was a video of a showtime person kicking someone in the face, we'd see it because it'd be algorithmically boosted.
Starting point is 00:42:23 They're the ones who like least need the money because they're like hot young able-bodied teams. Yeah, but they are good at what they do. I love a good showtime and yeah, and they never, I like a little bit of the thrill of like, ooh, will they kick me in the face? And then when they don't, you're so happy you give them money. It's not funny how reality deviates from narrative because the reality is that people love to give showtime teens money because they're hot, young, able-bodied and they put on a
Starting point is 00:42:55 good show and they make everybody feel good and people really hate to give homeless people money because they're like a real drag and make everybody feel bad. Yeah, yeah. And now there's this new thing that I noticed that's like less than a year old of like, Oaxacan mommies and their little Coyotito toddlers in like an S-teca wrap selling candy on the train, which is just sad, I don't know, a woman with a baby should have to panhandle on the train. Oh, that's super sad.
Starting point is 00:43:31 That's gypsy stuff. Yeah. Biden's immigration policy gone awry. Actually it's working perfectly as he intended. Yeah, I gotta be honest, I don't think the train that much. I do because I'm a- Where you go? Dog food, eating, poverty, mentality, loser.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And I love public transportation. I'm a man of the people. I like being one with the people. Where do I go? Like everywhere. I always take the train. Sometimes I think like, Anna, you're a rich person now. You should spring for a car, but I can't bring myself to do it.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Plus in the car, they trap you with all the top 40 hits that make you just like, makes your head hurt. Yeah. The car, I don't, I just don't leave, I've been a real pedestrian. Yeah. We'd be doing the Lindy walk. And I'll be walking like 45 minutes. But okay, I go uptown a lot for my various appointments, so you can't really walk from
Starting point is 00:44:33 Chinatown. Chinatown. They don't even speak English. Yeah, to like whatever, 79, 386. For sure. I would take the train if I went up there, I guess, because in a car it's just a waste. But I just truly never leave and leave that far from my apartment because everything's, I live in such a great location.
Starting point is 00:44:53 You do, yeah. But they're raising my, I have to move. Why? Well, they opened a weed store directly underneath my apartment, which is not great. And they are like raising my rent like $500. Jesus. Yeah. Again, which they already did like last year, and I was too like buck broken to leave.
Starting point is 00:45:18 So I was like, fine. And now I'm like, I can't, you're going to raise my $1,000. $1,000 in two years. That's insane. Yeah. That's why I'd be living in the ghetto because they never raised the rent. I mean, that's why you get what you pay for. I mean, not really actually New York.
Starting point is 00:45:36 My apartment's such a dump too. It's like my Chinese some lords are not, it's not like it's a not a nice apartment. It's just, it would be insane for me to stay, but I don't want to move because I hate moving. But I can't negotiate with these Chinese. Maybe I'll try. I don't know, I should leave. I want to leave. Where are you going to go midtown?
Starting point is 00:45:58 That's cool. Like, I'll support your decision. I mean, I'll support your decision anywhere you go, but Murray Hill, like just somewhere a little like, I don't know, obviously the location is great, but I could live the amount that I'm paying. I could live in actually like a decent size. I live in my apartment is so small and full of piles and so it's really like skipping like skits up there and I should just leave.
Starting point is 00:46:22 It's giving homeless kind of and the weeds to her right there. It's just, yeah. It's such an eyes that this is the number I used to complain about the DL Delos Marta status now careful what you wish for, you know, because when those went away, I was like, nice. And now it's I'm being assault. It's mostly the aesthetic that I can't stand of like the weed show stuff of like it's so like demonic and stupid.
Starting point is 00:46:56 They're like pumping out new schizophrenic menaces to society and it's like, I'm like, this is a hotbed for schizophrenic activity. This is not this is this is not like a elegant drug shop or apothecary. Like this is not the vibe of this community. There goes the neighborhood. I had a very heartwarming episode on the downtown F train yesterday or the day before where there was this young girl, maybe 15 or 16, trying to reel in a young child of maybe four or five who was having a full on spur go on the floor of the train because
Starting point is 00:47:44 he couldn't access his tablet because there was no internet. And as it turns out, she was his sister and he was actually autistic. And he was just like screaming and crying. And the whole car I kid you not banded together was like offering him candy and snacks, which probably would have made the situation much, much worse and kind of like closed ranks around her and reassured her that she shouldn't feel embarrassed. And we all like told her that she was doing a great job, everyone sitting in her proximity had kids.
Starting point is 00:48:16 So you know, we know what it's like. It really warmed my heart because at the end of the day, I really love people and I really love the city. I love this. I love New York. And it was like the antithesis of this horrible Jordan Neely Daniel Penny subway incident because it was truly heartwarming and inspiring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And there's like a Nabokov quote that's he talks about maybe it's like in one of his letters, but he talks about like the like lovely and lovable world that quietly is persisting. Like it is kind of like things are we're not in a race for yeah, it makes you feel like an immense gratitude because actually like one of the things that you observe obviously when you when you go outside and you're not like a weird online shut in is that most people are nice and generous and friendly. It's really true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Of all ages of all races of all walks of life. I'm sorry. I sound like such a bleeding heart libtard right now. I really am such a libtard. Me too. Me too. Like. And I have to say this is going to be the part of the pod that goes unnoticed, but I
Starting point is 00:49:29 really did hate it when people were gloating over the death of Jordan Neely. Oh my God, I hated it so I hate I don't want it that the whole Jordan Neely thing I've really been hesitant to wade into that discourse because it's so because you can't win and it's so like nuclear and toxic. Yeah. It's so arched for people in all these different ways. And for me, it's like tragic, but also completely unsurprising. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah. And the people the same people who are like protesting on behalf of Jordan Neely and calling it like a lynching and stuff are the same people who wanted to like abolish the police department and legalize drugs and the fact that people can't see that they can't put two and two together or whatever horrible instances of public like violence and vigilantism are inevitable in this kind of climate. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Like I don't think Jordan Neely should have died either. Well, what really grub me the wrong way was not only that people were gloating, it's that there was a contingent of people mostly like these right wing anonymous men who were gloating precisely because they could hornly picture putting themselves in the shoes of like the heroic golden haired Marine who took matters into his own hands. No, I don't and I'll go on the record of saying, I don't like to see the life leave someone's eyes. Period.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Yeah. And it's sad to see any life go down the drain. I was talking to my mother about it and we were both like, you know, at the end of the day, this person was like a deeply troubled person with a violent criminal past and an ongoing drug addiction. But he was also like a handsome and talented guy who died at a very young age in very sad and pathetic circumstances and is no one deserves to die. No one deserves to die.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And it is, uh, he's to me like a casualty of the, the system, not, not of like white supremacy or definitely not of Daniel Penny. You know, I say this in the way that Trump clarified the grab them by the postie comment, that the sky's whole recent existence was a provocation for violent retribution. And he was getting increasingly more and more aggravated. Well, he was on drugs, he was already mentally ill and he was getting more aggravated because like nobody was taking him up on the challenge. And then one guy eventually did and it ended tragically.
Starting point is 00:52:31 And there's something almost like Greek tragedy about this sublimely tragic moment where these two people were brought together in, with almost perfect optics, this young homeless drug addicted black man and this young blonde former Marine white man in this like bizarre tango. Yeah. I understand why people are like captivated by and obsessed by this story. Everybody tried to come at me on Twitter and, and said that it was frankly sinister that I was so interested in this incident, especially because of the company that I keep, i.e. you
Starting point is 00:53:14 know, racists on the internet. And I responded by saying like it's completely normal that someone like me would be interested in a case like this because it's a bellwether case with major holes in it that's personally relevant to me. We live in New York. As a woman with a young child who routinely rides the subway. I don't view this at all as a racial incident, but it's become so thoroughly racialized because of the perfect optics.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Well the framing also of like AOC had a tweet to the effect of like Jordan Neely was begging for food and the white man took kills him. That framing is so cynical and evil and like actually rate like so like race baity and twisted. She has a race baiter. I know it's no surprise coming from her, but I saw a lot of people like echoing this. A lot of like lefty types like echoing the same sentiments, yeah, which I think is just in such, I don't know, extreme bad, bad, bad, poor and bad taste like.
Starting point is 00:54:30 His bad faith and poor taste as yeah, not that to me is as bad as like right wing people celebrating like senseless death. That's what I said to that one. E girl. I didn't say it to the E girl. I said it to another girl in the Menchies that people preemptively and prematurely calling it murder when there's a pending investigation. Well, now today we're going to signal an empathy monger and show what a quote good person
Starting point is 00:54:58 and TM they are is like the woman version of anonymous men with Greek statue abbeys gloating and fantasizing about being the angel of death. Literally murdered. It's like that's not I'm not I'm not one of those people who takes Umbridge with the liberal use of literally, but but literally killed. He killed him. He did. And I think I guess they they ruled that it was a homicide, which is a technical term
Starting point is 00:55:34 that does not necessarily well, he's being charged with second degree manslaughter. Calling it murder is very reckless and indulgent at this stage. And also we went from murder to execution to lynching real quick. I mean, also the thing that makes me feel extremely gaslit is that the penny is not the only man in the video. There are two other men who are not white, right? Also restraining nearly and then there's like a subsequent video basically of Perry putting him in the recovery position, which I don't really know what that is, but the the claim
Starting point is 00:56:15 that he had him in a chokehold for 15 minutes just doesn't it doesn't add it so much about the sense it all makes me feel so crazy, yeah, like crazy, 15 minutes is going to be the new cross state lines. But nothing about the story adds up, obviously, the fact that there's no stops more than like three minutes apart on the train and that's being pretty generous. I ride the train every day, I know. We're also supposed to believe this narrative that three complete strangers randomly riding the train banded together through the osmotic ambient power of white supremacy and gang
Starting point is 00:56:55 dub on this young and innocent homeless man who was merely begging for money and singing on the train because he was quote annoying. I think had Penny acted alone, it would give more credence to the left liberal narrative that he had overstepped. But the fact that there was two other guys assisting him in holding this young man down suggests that he was indeed a threat or was threatening to become a threat. Yeah. He was presenting.
Starting point is 00:57:30 I mean, there also are literally countless incidents of people getting pushed up train tracks and like actually attacked and killed and like crime is up. Yeah. That's not a fantasy and tensions are high and in the initial article I read it said that Neely said that he's yeah, quote, like doesn't isn't is ready to doesn't care if he goes to jail, doesn't care if he dies, doesn't yeah, this doesn't care if he dies. He had a death wish, which is understandable because when you live on the streets for so long and our smoking K2, I really think that is the K2 honestly K2 is sailor tweeted out
Starting point is 00:58:16 a New York Times screen cap that talked about Neely being on like a watch list of the top 50. Yeah. Yeah. And then America's next top raving vagrant and then the attorneys representing Neely's family is like uncle who came out of the woodwork it's like what how are you this guy's family. Yeah. And the award for best raving vagrant.
Starting point is 00:58:46 That's what I'm saying. Another thing that I can't square the circle on with the left liberal line that all these people crying about how we have to have more empathy for the unhoused and underprivileged who wouldn't have batted an eyelash at him if they saw him begging on the train they would have just walked past him he was invisible person to them. Or they would have huddled in beer like tensed up and avoided eye contact with him. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:15 That's also why a lot of women in particular were saying it was murder and we're calling for Penny's head because women's empathy goes into overdrive in these type of situations. I get it. The flattering reality is that they know that they would be scared and huddling as any of us would be. And the unflattering reality is that they secretly want people like this dead or out of sight at least. They'd be praying for a PTSD vet someone in a chokehold that they were on that train.
Starting point is 00:59:45 To put them in a chokehold. And of course there was this footnote about the fact that he had like 44 prior arrests and outstanding warrant. He had an assault charge against a 67 year old woman who he punched exiting the subway. He had an attempted kidnapping charge against a seven year old girl who I guess he tried to catch on the street. There is a quote from the New York Times that was hilarious in the days after the video circulated online many left leaning politicians and activists said that if Mr. Penny had
Starting point is 01:00:17 been black he would have been Captain custody. I don't think that's how it works anymore y'all doesn't somebody like Neely being out on the street with his rap sheet and outstanding warrant kind of contradict that point. No fans. No it's backwards right and then people like to make the case that everyone was a fucking law school reason I guess but they was like to point out that Penny couldn't have known about Neely's criminal past as if like his erratic and frightening behavior wouldn't point to that intuitively.
Starting point is 01:01:01 You don't and I don't think he meant to kill him obviously. I think it's I mean it was out that day like thirsting for blood like his like PTSD instincts kicked in liberals with the help of leftist like to create these situations where there's no law and order and then they like to use it as a pretext to punish ordinary citizens who take matters into their own hands in the power vacuum. That's always how it be. Why? Why do they do that?
Starting point is 01:01:32 What's wrong with them? Well I think like the overwhelming leftist response in favor of Neely and against Penny the reason that leftists are so empathetic toward Neely is because they literally identify with and relate to him because leftists and vagrants are literally on the same spectrum of antisociality it's just a matter of degree. They're terrorists yeah but also I think that they are I mean about a week before this I tweeted about how I was depositing some checks at the bank and there was some vagrants in the vestibule and Sam had their bell another reason I didn't wade into this discourse was
Starting point is 01:02:25 because I don't want to I don't want some faggot sniping at me like I don't need your little leave don't quip at me don't and so I like foresaw I got a little preview just of like using the word vagrant yeah of how many people are quick to be like vague like first of all vagrant much like retarded is a descriptive word that means someone who is not where they should be yes it implies that they are not where they belong it is definitional there's nothing problematic yeah about pointing out that vagrants shouldn't be in the vestibule of a bank this has been the truth for approximately a million years and then they say like oh these rich people and it's like I think the part of it is yes
Starting point is 01:03:20 that they're on this anti-social spectrum but they're also completely out of touch they have not they don't understand that wealthy people do not go to the bank because they haven't been to a bank or on the train or like they just don't it's really easy yeah to be this like really empathetic good say I'm out of the browser that's mainly the effect of like people who consider themselves to be good it's called being a decent person and it's like well you don't know what's going on you live in a fucking dream yeah anyway while the rest of us live in a literal nightmare while the rest of us are like yeah and you know speaking of empathy why is there no empathy for like ordinary citizens and their children
Starting point is 01:04:06 who ride the train every day like ordinary hard-working wealthy people and I saw like a lot of leftists and liberals being like well he had a right to be on the train just like anybody else he had a right to have a mental episode in public if this sort of behavior makes you feel uncomfortable and unsafe you're a pussy if you feel uncomfortable and unsafe well that's just a fact of life of living in New York City and you should just pack up and leave you pussy and my feeling is like if a person has a right to randomly and arbitrarily have a chimp out on public transit other people have the right to react yeah because ain't nobody reacting for you and I've had this thought many times when like
Starting point is 01:04:59 various vagrants of like menace to me and or the baby on the train which happens more often than you would like to think um that like if something really went down like if something really popped off nobody's helping me I don't know that I mean one hopes that there would be a zoomer marine yeah sitting next to me on the train but that scenario seems fairly unlikely I wish Curtis Sliwa was I saw her with Curtis Sliwa in a midtown diner a couple months ago was he wearing the beret he was wearing the beret he was wearing like a guardian angel's anorak he looked so cute and I was honestly so starstruck that I didn't go up to him and introduce myself understand and I really regret it I would because he's an attention whore and he would have
Starting point is 01:05:50 loved the attention of course it's so I regret it almost as much as I regret not coming up to Amy Wax at the new criteria which at the gala no it was like another one but you were there at that book yeah yeah got it yeah I would have been I would have been scared to approach Sliwa as well yeah but he seems fairly harmless um I mean we literally need guardian angels we do yeah we literally guys to wear berets we need more guys to join the guardian angels yeah fellas if you're listening that's a great pastime for um creative zoomer men who don't know what to do with uh their energy and passion get that beret on the guardian angels um I have a friend who I will name I will not be doxxing who volunteers at a homeless shelter which would go against her
Starting point is 01:06:51 reputation as a woman of the right wing and she has a very reasonable take on this which is that the people that enter the shelter system are very often decent individuals who have fallen on bad times and they're really trying to turn their lives around but there's always going to be a population of people who are um too troubled and too ill to want to enter into that system where you are like subject to drug tests and oversight and the other thing of course on the flip side you could argue that being in a nyc shelter is probably a a brutal and grueling process because you're subject to like robbery and rape and all sorts of other antisocial behavior there is always going to be a small outlier population of people who want to live on the streets because they don't want to
Starting point is 01:07:48 have responsibility and you don't even need I mean I have a friend who lives near the bowery mission and like those guys like hang out on the block all day like you know it says you don't even need to have that much responsibility to subsist in the in the shelter system yeah it's like it's not that draconian but there are I mean neely rip was on the top 50 he's one of the top 50 people that are like the most the most homeless the most homeless and scary and that's like if you're one of those people you're I mean probably a gemini I don't know like I bet a lot of those people are gemini so sick I'm gonna go on wikipedia and look up Jordan Neely's star thing he was definitely a star he was I mean the picture of him in his
Starting point is 01:08:47 Michael Jackson uniform makes me really sad too it's yeah I'm such a woman in a libtard I look at this boy who looks like willow smith and he's like he was so cute and handsome and I want better for him but maybe he didn't necessarily want better for himself but again I'm like of the mind that nobody deserves to die and nobody is beyond redemption I agree that's very christian of you you have to believe that yeah um it doesn't say when yeah I can't I can't find uh Daniel Penny's birthday either okay so one's the gemini and the other one's a capricorn it's weird the media is suppressing this information we need all the facts we need to find out what's going on more will be revealed by the toxicology report and the star and the star chart what if they were like
Starting point is 01:09:46 totally compatible kind of like you and me and they could have had a podcast Neely could have been a Pisces I can see that I could see that it's classic male Pisces behavior to spiral into tragic and irreparable drug addiction and to be a dazzling performer true and so at an earlier point in your life yeah to show a lot of promise and the moxie and the other thing that really kind of bugged me up about the leftoids and libtards like sharing all these like stories and videos about how he was like this incredible Michael Jackson impersonator was like maybe he was also driven to madness over the fact that he had to like literally sing for his up or like a circus seal on the subway much like michael jackson was also driven to madness i mean
Starting point is 01:10:43 you know it sucks being famous no matter who you are even if you're like the most famous homeless person in new york city yeah well also so many people think i saw this guy and it's like well why didn't you help him where were you this is like when the arab countries bash on israel for not being nicer to the palestinians but won't absorb any of those refugee populations exactly like what are you doing these are your brethren supposedly they're part of the umma the muslim community i mean shocking something there's a top 50 who's on the top 10 and why can't we do anything i mean i don't know it's above my pay grade honestly to speculate on how we can solve the mental health crisis among the homeless i'm
Starting point is 01:11:43 really surprised that penny was charged honestly because it seemed like i was like no way i was like no i was like people have no one's gonna go like people are basically reasonable and can understand the position that the penny was in my fear was that um well they originally interviewed him and let him go and didn't charge him my fear was that um they would meme some charges into existence because the outrage would be so viral and i guess that's what happened so yeah he's up for second degree manslaughter aka reckless endangerment he can face up to 15 years in prison um this means that the prosecution would have to prove that penny caused neely's death and did so recklessly meaning he knew the chokehold could kill neely and chose
Starting point is 01:12:33 to recklessly apply it anyway okay clearly that didn't happen case closed like we've proved it on this podcast yeah we hire us to be part of your legal team um i mean that to me the most disturbing implication of something like that is that um not that i think vigilantism should be widely practiced but i think it's just like it really sends a message of like deterring people from intervening in potentially like violent situation like you know no one's definitely no one's saving you and you're maybe now on the train i know i know but that's the whole point it's to like terrorize the population into subservience i think that's even if he beats the charges which i hope he does it's like i have to say like when that's not good yeah yeah i mean when the story
Starting point is 01:13:35 first went public i remember thinking like wow this this kid like from a rational perspective this kid is really crazy to have pulled a stunt like that on the subway knowing the optics of course it was an of the moment decision but we live in post-flate america a homeless drug addicted young black man is literally the closest you can get to saint hood and a white blonde haired former marine is the closest you can get to the antichrist yeah that was just the brakes i know that that's how it be it's like something out of um a tom wolf or like a john updike novel i know no it's it's positively grecian as he said yeah and so of course it's a captivating story for obvious reasons that have nothing to do actually with like the sinister racial implications which really don't
Starting point is 01:14:29 exist because as our dear friend maddie pointed out the homeless are really their own race that actually transcends the racial line yeah um yeah i know it's there isn't the racial dynamic is just i can't i don't know how anyone can but can really buy buy that i know it's terrifying and there's also all these blue check black grifters who are like cashing in on the story like tarik nashid who i do have a soft spot for of course mark lamont hall nicole hannah jones all of them are like coming in their pants right now because this is like too good for their careers yeah and they're whipping out all the old like emetil talking points yada yada and either way this this guy is probably screwed i mean do you think they're going to throw the book
Starting point is 01:15:29 at him like convict him yeah and give him the max sentence no i hope not i mean i was wrong i didn't even think that they would charge him honestly so i really don't know i think like he if there's a if there's justice he will beat the charges but the as we've said before like the process is the punishment it's this is his life now is like he has two options either he goes to jail for manslaughter or he becomes like a fox news influencer this is really like written house 2.0 i think i don't know he should move he should flee he should go to bolly yeah he should go like really far away and just never come back he should go to some tropical island and like knock up some beautiful black woman have like 16 kids he should be like surfing and like yeah chilling they're gonna make
Starting point is 01:16:25 the black guy who helped him hold neely down testify against him i mean no one's talking about those guys at all their total footnotes to the story even though they were like clearly they had some mutual mono a mono agreement that came about spontaneously he must have been acting really scary i really believe that like i don't think he was just like meekly asking for for alms yeah yeah or being like you're like a basic erratic person which are around all the time and then don't get put into choke holds like i think they must have been legitimate like i don't know that's what i would like to believe for no that's like what i understand about the world that like i live in new york well and it's funny because when you talk to actual normal people everyone once again
Starting point is 01:17:28 across age race socioeconomic class whatever seems to agree if it turns out he was murdered i will eat my words on red scare podcast that would be awful but i just can't it's that would be really i i would be really surprised if that was the case but the like okay so there's like protests oh yeah but they're nothing they're like trying to meme it into another like george floyd summer but people are not not having it and it looks like there's like max like a hundred people yeah they're all taking over the train tracks so embarrassing getting precariously close to that third rail so embarrassing i know i know and yeah like you're all clearly really like maladjusted and like i need to get a life if this is your like cause celebrate that you're gonna like hit the street
Starting point is 01:18:25 like you're just waiting to to go protesters are you you got some heat for saying protesters suck but they are there's something like the protester mentality is so like quick to rise so like they're the mentality you have to be into be um uh like a social justice protester is like so purposeless i just imagine your life is like must be just such a void just consequence free and responsibility free yeah and you're just waiting for something to like animate you yeah even you don't you don't care about just you pay all this lip service to justice but that couldn't be the that's the furthest thing you actually care about you don't care about the truth hate to use this phrase but you literally care about virtue signaling one of our non-mutuals who shall remain
Starting point is 01:19:13 unnamed had some tweet to the effect of man these protesters are really carrying on Jordan Neely's legacy by being as much of an annoying chaotic nuisance as possible and i did not like that tweet good for you because people be combing through my legs also but sicko behavior yeah what are you my boyfriend i know i'm going through my phone yeah what what are you looking for man what are you trying to where are you trying to prove yeah what are you mad at why are you so mad at me i know i know i have to admit the protester suck tweet was one of the few times where i was actually consciously and aggressively acting out knowing it would catch me some heat were you drunk i think probably yeah but maybe not i can't i cannot i cannot say i we do not know i do not
Starting point is 01:20:04 remember was i inebriated when i said that yeah i mean sure but then i felt very um pleased and gloating because they were like what train stop is she on that she's so inconvenienced and i was like nah i'm home watching the lakers game yeah i'm just sitting around i'm literally i got nothing going on yeah put the baby to see a protester nothing happened to me why hit the white claw i didn't see any of those protesters no i mean why would i but i would also i would never get into like fist to cuffs with protesters ever i would just hang my head and walk on by i wouldn't say anything never ever no no no i mean no even never no i mean we went to two women's marches that that year oh yeah and we were very respectful yeah we were not like confide i don't know no i'm not like
Starting point is 01:21:12 a counter being the only more that i'm being a protester being a counter protester and like protesting people protesting that's like i'm like on twitter being like protester suck a little and then in real life i'm like uh sir do you want me to hold your picket signed for you while you run into the bodega to get a red bull keep up the good work can i buy you some sandwiches i mean protesters are for the record i do i also stand in solidarity with the writers guild though i will not be attending any a picket line is what do you think about that i think um the writers are some of the most essential well yeah they that's why they are able to go on strike because they have the most leverage sag never gone strike because there are so many unemployed actors so
Starting point is 01:22:15 many people who are willing to do it for not like actors have zero leverage because they're desperate but writers are replaceable now too because there's all these somebody was trying to explain like writers rooms to me and how like all the best shows are the product of like auteurs who um oversee every step of the process and very often write the show themselves like somebody like sam levinson sam levinson has rooms okay i mean i don't know how this works at all mike white is someone he wrote all he wrote and produced and directed every episode of white lotus on his own i don't believe he uses a room um succession right has a room that functions very well a lot of um but who are the writers in the succession room they're not
Starting point is 01:23:08 like randos who can be like who are interchangeable and easily replaceable right they're like hand picked no they're on me that's just the armstrong made peep shows the showrunner yeah yeah rooms depend so much on showrunners right um but a lot of these shows that by the way nobody watches there's a lot of shows that they're not prestige tv they're weird filler well that the the problem um and this is a big gripe the of i it's calm it's kind of complicated um but i the big issue is streaming right is that there are i forgot who it was but it was like one of our like industry friends there's tons of shows that are there's like the market's oversaturated the streaming platforms are not profitable though they make lots of promises of like having speculative value to
Starting point is 01:24:00 their investors and stuff but then they low they churn out a lot of content writers it's change like the there's just been changes with streaming that writers are not being compensated for in the way of like residuals which is like really the backbone of the like that's um and i don't and a lot of people are talking about ai which i mean unfortunately many people i and this is i think like bat made a point similar to this but like a lot of people basically are ai so they are really yeah they are they're npcs yeah they're npcs yeah but there are i don't know i think having good contracts and making entertainment writing a viable career that attracts talented people to pursue it will only benefit everyone like right and it's just
Starting point is 01:25:03 things they're just gonna have to change they're gonna probably have to make less what they really want is honestly they're they're just gonna have to be less shows because people want to be contracted to work in a room to make a living wage to have benefits to have the proper like residual contracts in place and everybody secretly wants that both the insiders and the consumers people want people want 12 seasons of fucking 24 with like a great room that's like has a really like not everything has to be prestige less quantity and more quality yes and not everything has to be like prestige tv like there needs to be like just television that people can watch that should meet some quality the shield the most incredible non-prestige show which really gives like the
Starting point is 01:25:55 sopranos and the wire or run for its money i will die on that i bet the shield has a room i wonder i mean the shield is sean ryan who's kind of like the foil to david simon but at the end of the day it's like it's entertainment yeah we want like we just want people who are competent enough to make entertainment drama is drama yeah people are always going to need drama i don't think ai will replace writers i think um though npcs might be a big swath of people like even npcs want catharsis and they want you know people can throw that up on red scare hot taste people can tell when something is good good and people mostly actually do desire even if they don't know it things that are
Starting point is 01:26:55 good and it would i don't know i had another point i was gonna make but i forget now oh so something that's happened in the post-streaming economy it's really just about like the way things have shifted and like things need to be updated if they want people need to be recalibrated if they want the system to continue which i think maybe i don't know streaming is might be doomed i don't know um but there's something called a mini room which i've worked in where they basically instead of like um actually assembling like a room of contracted writers to work on something long term that they're invested in have skin in the game let's say then you get kind of like contracted as like a basically a gig laborer to work in either like a smaller room or a room for a
Starting point is 01:27:53 shorter duration of time and okay but that seems nefarious yeah no it's completely and it's not productive i think it's not productive because everyone's kind of basically like an uber driver or a writer of the streaming economy uh yeah and you're just kind of there and you're don't you're not invested in the show that much like you are trying to like do your best but basically you're kind of like on the clock yeah in post-covid on a zoom call which i also think is like really a heinous thing for for writers to be subjective or maybe i want to put a gun in my mouth every single day just like wearing a mask on zoom literally yeah like uh like eight hours a day with like a 15 minute break every three hours where a lot of writers
Starting point is 01:28:45 live in LA so they get to like go in their backyard or like take a lap around there like ben aplic style smoke a cigarette yeah but i just am like in my dark apartment and i like kind of get in a game of chess yeah i just gonna sit in another chair and then come back and open my laptop again yeah you just like think about committing suicide violently in public so i agree like one of their stipulations that they don't want mini rooms anymore which i'm like completely for i think mini rooms serve no one yeah they're just a way for people to like spin their wheels yeah and the best stuff is made not necessarily by like a no tour though often that's the case like with like i think twin peaks is like not even in the same category as television like
Starting point is 01:29:30 someone with a real vision like david lynch can do things with long form entertainment that other people can yeah i mean i think the best works of art in any medium essentially transcend the medium yeah but but with like episodic television if you have a good showrunner you can have a good room with good people in it who can do yeah good work like what's the fucking problem but then you have to be honorable honorable and principled and compensate them accordingly the problem with like both film and television now is that there's like a chain of pecking order abuse where everybody is lowballing everybody else and everyone is everyone's friend so you can't really demand demand more concessions then it bubbles over and you're having a protest outside of abc carpet and
Starting point is 01:30:20 home yeah i'm not in the in the guild by the way so but i am also on strike i haven't been writing because i'm in solidarity yeah with the writers i am also on strike uh but i i don't know they remember i mean people really attribute the rise of reality television and some very hysterical people even attribute like the popularity of donald trump to the last writers strike uh wait what because the last time the writers went on strike um a lot of of reality's television proliferated because it didn't need writers it just right producers to like plop people with alcohol uh and that's when we really saw the rise of like a ton of reality tv yeah like the tlc economy and stuff what's the tlc economy it's just a term i made up for the
Starting point is 01:31:27 tees shows on tlc that all have like spin-offs of spin-offs of 90 day fiance they there's a like it's like the the cheapest most unsatisfying content because there's such like a low barrier to entry and you can literally just binge watch it or have it on in the background zone out whatever yeah i think for all the panic of ai like um i really i just don't think ai-generated television will be able to hold a candle to like reality tv yeah and i think ai-generated television could even be its own genre well it would also be have you know that they hire like a copy editor or something to sort of wrangle the ai i yeah they have all those uh intimacy coordinators exactly they would like
Starting point is 01:32:19 make it into something slightly coherent but still really unsatisfying you can't give television and film writing over to ai's because then intimacy coordinators will be out of a job and nobody wants that and then they'll go on strike exactly the director's guild number strikes i think probably because they have because they're directors and they have more control and more money i mean yeah maybe they have enough leverage to not need to strike and the writers are in this like middle zone actors have zero leverage would sell their mother to be on a abc family don't care um would cross a picket line like that if someone like looked at them yeah basically so they they don't someone ask them to do porn yeah they don't have a chance in hell above um
Starting point is 01:33:15 um but sat does a decent a decent job i mean it seems like most writers probably don't write for prestige tv they write for garbage tv so yeah they write it's the bell curve baby and it's gonna have some things there it's gonna regulate itself and there will probably be i don't know well my thing is like less shows like the streaming economy is like too big to fail at this point because it's the new default i don't know it seems very failable because it's makes no money yeah but it's like kind of like everything's laid off tons of people who work for them because they yeah but everything now feels like sustainably unsustainable where it's like always heading toward this crisis point but never quite reaches it until it isn't but that's
Starting point is 01:34:06 like literally everything now not like entertainment is but a microcosm no it's really up of academia of everything i'm uh i don't know if i've said this on the show before uh ruby mccallister actress and astrologer um told me that saturn is about to enter pisces um which is kind of like a macro placement and the last time saturn was in pisces was when like bonnie and clide easy rider my cowboy when like the studio system in the 60s was like unsustainable and crumbling and then all these kind of like exciting mid-budget kind of indie movies started the age of dasha wait but hold on you have said this before and then i said didn't mat didn't matty just say that saturn was entering aquarius no no no it's pisces it was an aquarius but how
Starting point is 01:35:10 i had like how frequently did these things shift i thought they were like generational um like 25 years or something however long it takes saturn to i don't know the ruby said it was like yeah the last time was like kind of the 60s which was obviously a really a time when a lot of things shifted the center did not hold so to speak and yeah um i think the little time prior to that was when like snow white came out which was also a really big thing for like animation and like um so i'm optimistic honestly i think me too but like the thing that i've learned is that you have to be optimistic because it's like the only rational choice there's no other way it's similar to like how you have to be like god-fearing and faithful because there's no other
Starting point is 01:35:58 rational choice yeah yeah how would you feel about having richard dawkins on the pod i'm up for it um we had received con on spoiler ritual release was at some point um but his response to my question about evolution i was like damn i was like so it's i wonder how it'll go with with dawkins i would sure he seems humorless like he'd be hard to kind of riff with but i'm up for it i think it'd be interesting brittle and shrill but as an anglophile are you an anglophile i'm like a huge anglophile are you yeah i love british culture and british humor and i even kind of like british food i think it gets a bad me too i love beans so i'm a big i mean my i'm a very selective anglophile i like like man chester and i like brit pop right yeah we're we're devotees to morrisey
Starting point is 01:37:03 obviously i love shakespear and i love like minor victorian poets my favorite being jk steven okay i'm a i'm a big low-key fan of the british they've they've got a lot to offer and i think they're incredibly funny definitely their humor is it's fantastic like for me like british and irish humor are like the best humors they're they're fantastic you know like my favorite comedy is keeping up appearances starring patricia rutledge one of the greatest actresses who's ever lived they will never get her fair shake because she's like not hot you know they've done a lot for for drama yeah and they've done a lot i mean they do class comedy better than anybody else a peep show is a good example downstairs i mean part of the reason succession honestly is such a
Starting point is 01:37:55 good show is that a lot of those writers are well it's the british vision they're british of america yeah so it's essentially the cruel and distant yeah which resonates i caught a little flak on on twitter recently because i said that kate middleton's cape at the coronation looked like shanyun you're you were you've never been more right about something am i i know i know the fact that people were well people were mad at me because they think they thought i was um just jealous and bitter over this beautiful anglo woman as like a low stock white mishling or whatever that couldn't be further from the truth i have no opinion on kate middleton's beauty or lack there of the point was the aesthetics looked really cheap and rundown they did not look like powerful
Starting point is 01:38:48 and formidable and whatever the fuck they were going for but it's really not their fault because the problem with having traditional aesthetics in this day and age is that they all feel kind of like a lark well everything is so uh my charitable read is that things have always been kind of chintzy and now they're just like overexposed and like too high definition yeah but that whereas like if we saw like a blurry ass like black and white photo for wearing a that k we'd probably be like amazing yeah we kind of we were talking about it like a few episodes back when i addressed that tweet that one greek statue avi guy had about how um you know silent film black and white actresses were more beautiful actresses today which is just like simply observably not true
Starting point is 01:39:37 it's just that they had fewer there's like three images of them yeah and they were subject to the constraints of the medium at the time which made things look more poignant and dramatic exactly so now that you can like literally yeah like have a high def image of the unsteamed fold in princess kate's gown it looks like shit put as many maltese crosses as you want on that it's not it's like putting a maltese cross on a pig okay i thought the coronation was trash i'm an anti-royalist me too that's the other thing i think this is like probably our most leftist opinion is that we're like defiantly anti-royalist i don't even think that i'm a morrissian i exactly hate the royals they suck they're not aspirational they look like shit they remind me of the um goya painting of the
Starting point is 01:40:28 spanish royal family where he deliberately caricatured them to look like pigs with their absolutely nasty middleton is fine she's mid she has she literally i'm sorry i thought i said i wasn't gonna weigh in but she literally has mid in her name she and she's also the thing about kate middleton which i both of horror and respect is that she is a middle-class era beast who married into the royal family she is merely middle class she's like a mercantile daughter she's like a girl who would have been in a john singer sergeant painting that was scandalous at the time good for her yeah um yeah king charles kamila and my other hot take by the way because there's so much racial animus against megan markle much like all the racial animus against india because she's a mulatto
Starting point is 01:41:28 and people are always trying to paint kate middleton as this paragon of grace and dignity and megan markle as this paragon of low class miscegenation or whatever and to me they're literally physically interchangeable they have similar features i find it very actually charming and endearing that these two boys found women who look like hotter more face-tuned more whatever looks maxed versions of their father they picked women with similar features to them because dogs and their owners yeah and nobody would know megan markle was black if she didn't publicize it aggressively definitely not no she's like she's totally white passing completely especially when she like straightens her hair and so while i agree that megan markle is probably
Starting point is 01:42:18 not even a bpd ho but a pathological narcissist it has nothing to do with her race i'm glad you set the record the record i'm saying she'd be acting like a white lady completely no no she'd be acting like e gene carol and they yeah they famously distance themselves they're like they did they took they like broke with the monarchic tradition to get a Netflix deal or whatever so that's all but the monarchy sucks it does and and i suppose the one nice thing you can say about kate middleton is that she's very discreet and in that sense she's the total opposite of megan markle who's like spilling the beans on Oprah and going to the tabloids she's a good she probably has like a deal with the daily mail um but who says kate middleton is
Starting point is 01:43:09 also not a pathological narc what do we really know about her for sure just saying the other nice thing i will say is that the children looked precious sure i loved the little mary jane flats of the girl and i loved the boys like damien from the omen love yeah i'm with you all in all that it could have been it was it wasn't giving it just didn't hit royal is yeah but also i really do believe it's not their fault it's like the product of what you said which is like the overexposure the oversaturation yeah the hyper availability of like digital images on the internet that like cheapens the mystique of the royal family which they never really had to be in with but you know at some point i mean queen elizabeth's coronation i think there was something
Starting point is 01:44:07 to it yeah and then everything kind of went downhill since then they both picked women who look like queen elizabeth a coronation should feel like yeah like the moment that someone's like destiny is being like revealed like i really like i'm not a monarchist but i can understand the like romanticism of monarchy and that kind of like pomp and circumstance of like there there is something energetically there that could be all like it should be an honorable affair and it's couldn't be further from that and i well i understand why normies are like invested in the royals i get that and i'm not trying to like reign on their parade i i'll gladly reign on their parade honestly i know i'm like i'm like you're stupid all that sleeping dogs we're elitists i'm like
Starting point is 01:44:59 you're done for that my i'm i have a theory about morissi that i he's gay no he's just like peter teal i actually i gleaned this insight because i actually identify with it and i think that part of morissi's resentment for the royal family isn't merely that they're mediocre but it's that he feels excellent he's aristocratic yeah in his soul and so he to him it is like a grave injustice yeah and he's a mere mancunian mcpeasant exactly yeah yeah and i can i i can identify with that too where i'm like these are this is you call this a princess well i'm like let me cook i didn't even have a chance well that's why i'm respectfully bowing down to kate middleton because you're taking the knee i'm taking the knee i'm getting placed in that chokehold because
Starting point is 01:46:05 she's like some little middle-class bitch who made it i don't know why in this day and age you would want to marry into like a symbolic vestige of grandeur outside of like the economic benefits and social clout well there you go yeah answer your own question it's an option but i see you and you're valid kate those are very valid those are very strong incentives definitely for a certain type of woman that i personally will never be i mean it's just too late for it we're not on that track yeah i'd love for a yeah a prince to come and get me out of the hood once and for all but i just don't think it's gonna happen yeah so i'm i'm realistic about that but that doesn't stop me from resenting the royals yeah it's not being you could maybe get like um a lower wrong saudi
Starting point is 01:47:02 prince and i could get like a raving homeless guy who thinks he's a prince whose name is prince i he's a prince impersonator i don't even think i could pull a saudi honestly it's just not in the cards for i couldn't even i can't even be prince you could get spit roasted by some saudi's i could yeah i was gonna say like so gross what just say it well i know they're into like scatological sex practices i was gonna say something about like i could do diarrhea they would they would love to literally shit on a descendant of the lithuanian duchy of speculative but they would love to throw you into slavic slavery just like olden times exactly when they were quote intermarrying with women of certain haplo group
Starting point is 01:48:03 if you if you like what you hear tune in to our upcoming receive con of this over we spill the tea the honor maternal haplo group on maternal haplo groups and who the real slaves were um but yeah i mean i think morris e much like myself has like a royalty and exile complex where they it just it feels uh unjust well it really is resentment all the way through all the way down it really is yeah yeah but it hurts even more because they're i think i'd hate them even if they were excellent but the fact that they're not is is just puts a little extra sting in it yeah no i would love them if they were excellent and i know i probably they were exceptional i would love to really be like oh that's the king that's the king of england i love princess diana she was
Starting point is 01:48:58 yeah because she was actually the last time the royal family was regal she had that um sir all motedema profile she looked like she was like chisel she looked like a a kuroset bap spontaneously came from but i'm happy for camilla that side ho yeah that's a nice touch that she gets to be the queen now that's the best we can hope for in this day and age the um horrible opportunistic lower class people make it yeah that one day when they're wretched and all they can put a chintzy crown on from ali express shine smile camilla has like a shine endorsement she's like we need you to model 14 outfits on instagram yeah damn the cape was wrinkled and you weren't wrong for saying it i'm sorry at the met gala
Starting point is 01:50:02 they have a fleet of homosexuals who act as fluffers for your train there should be somebody on hand with one of those anthropology steamers that i've been feeding to get to make sure the thing is smooth before the photo op if our de facto celebrity aristocrats can manage to like look unrumbled at the met gala surely the the royal family can pull it together at their own met gala and like class it up a little at least i don't know honestly if i was um like princess or a queen i would i would insist on only being photographed or filmed like out of lower resolution yeah in black and white yeah i'd be like this is only we're going 16 millimeter on this as my director's vision what do you think about people women i'll just put it out wet it's only women
Starting point is 01:51:02 who have pictures of themselves hanging in their homes huh who who does that like i feel like all the starlets do it the kardashians like jailo they'll have like a really dramatic black and white portrait of themselves oh my god i got such a weird thing in the mail actually um i'll show you for um and it was an ad for with like a kind of a she'll piece i mean a buxom black woman wearing lingerie and it was for it was like a leaflet for a service that does a boudoir photo shoot of you and the angle is very much like you're perfect the way you are like don't wait book with us today to do it our photographers will make you feel comfortable i gotta find it i send it to nicholas because it costs 750 dollars that's not bad it's
Starting point is 01:52:11 fairly reasonable but who okay yeah that's like what kind of cheap trick who springs for that yes as a amateur model um who has met has modeled many t-shirts over the last few months um i can't imagine paying someone to take a photo like i'm like that seems something like that the real housewives of atlanta or petomic would totally exactly i was like what i was like why would i there was that trend that was like very real housewife centric of like here it is is women it's called this is some free press for them it's called three boudoir uh oh wow and this is looking like megan the stallion this is the copy you're enough you're the most enough and you always have been stepping in front of you you're more than enough you're 300
Starting point is 01:53:09 stepping in front of our lens it's not about looking sexy it's about looking like you and what's better than that you've literally had enough you've had enough you're tired for the day you're tired there aren't expectations or pressure in our studio instead we can we're completely centered on community camaraderie and catching your laugh the second your eyes light up and she what a wonderful this horny coffee it's not your job to educate others and this is an empowering boudoir photo shoot some they literally women are so disempowered they will pay $750 to put on lingerie and how someone photographed them that is in bitch i do that for free i do that for your pain i can generate my own lingerie boudoir content i should go work for these people as a fashion
Starting point is 01:54:12 you really i could i don't really nail their photography i'm like so good at photography i think you would be great i would be great working for the three boudoir narcissistic boudoir startup wear like a bunch of millennials in wine color jeans they're like yes they're like you got this we'll take all your pictures through a chinese beauty app filter well there was that trend i mean maybe it's still a trend of middle like upper middle class women gifting their husbands like a photo album of themselves in lingerie which like i could not imagine a worse gift as a husband like boop i want to watch or a wallet yeah i don't need pictures of yourself because i see your raggedy ass every day can you give me just another woman yeah with bigger tip
Starting point is 01:55:09 he's hotter than you that would be great i'm gonna give yeah why would you want to look at pictures of your wife that is unless you were like literally locked in guantanamo unless you were saddam who say a waiting trial um another thing yeah that should be you used to have one picture of your wife and you cherished it in a locket when you went to war and you looked at your legs blown off in a trench and you looked at it and she you were like younger pilled exactly you were bleeding out and you were looking at your beloved at one the one photo you had the one dusty ass photo you had of your wife and now she was the most beautiful she's ever looked and now you have a photo album of a boudoir and actually according to modern beauty standards she was kind of mid well but back then
Starting point is 01:56:02 people didn't know any better they really andrea dworkin would have been considered a great beauty in the black and white old timey day and r.i.p andrea dworkin you would have loved the empowering boudoir photos you would have loved the red scarebot can you imagine having andrea dworkin dream gas honestly up in the rshq sitting on one of our like gotta get a bean bag full of her i'd love to go to brandy melville with her like it's all one size it'd be like isn't it great one size fits all brandy melville is literal rape what if andrea dworkin had like a really smooth phone sex operator voice are there any recordings of her i'm sure there are we should look this up because remember that lady on beavis and butthead who lives in the trailer park and is the phone
Starting point is 01:57:00 sex operator and has like really long toenails and she's like sitting in her trailer with her like son and her husband who's like naked outside of a pair of speedo speedos and like chain smoking cigarettes and she's like yeah hello i bet you want to know what i'm wearing she must have been a compelling speaker to do a lot of that anti pornography activism i bet mckinnon had a good voice i have a hunch somehow yeah that old witch and that old hag um who i also probably will revisit in my my new feminist arke um that i've embarked on they're literally the original red skier podcast they really are you're the mckinnon and i'm the dworkin there's like one wispy aristocratic one with like a wasp's nest of white air and one like fat one in overalls
Starting point is 01:57:57 and colossus making a lasagna who smells america with a k or something i that's what i was reading woman hating and notice that at the main we were like long for that it was so innocent that way this was a second wave feminism i guess i don't know i don't fucking know i don't know which wave but whatever it was there was a really pure and innocent time in hindsight where women were like like shave my legs how dare you i'm burning my bra yeah and now it's become so like layered and convoluted and impossible and i just love long for the days where i could just burning your bra is actually environmentally unfriendly because it releases toxic fumes into the atmosphere which may negatively impact houseless people it's actually yeah it's actually able is
Starting point is 01:59:00 i have to shave my legs uh because i have a ocd i have a mental illness how often do you shave your legs not that often okay you used to shave them more like but how often was that like i mean like every day ish every other day like you should really like take go to town pretty good care of myself and stuff and then as somehow you gave up post 30 i really was like what up who fucking cares yeah like you know should i get my arms lasered no definitely not you have like pretty fine arm hair i don't yeah it's not that bad no i would never i used to shave my arms as a teen really just like started to and then you have to kind of keep doing it because you get a stubble yeah and it looks really gross and and then at some point
Starting point is 01:59:53 i just let my arm right grow because i think this is just clearly preferable i got my pussy wax today good for you so that's nice i did a thing called getting my pussy lasered i did it when in like recently wow all the session you did it or you are you're in the process because it takes well it takes like six sessions yeah yeah so i'm on the first one okay was it hurt but not bad it was mildly enjoyable in a rihanna type of way it's it's ouch it's less painful than waxing for sure but equally as demeaning because you have to have like a Bengali or Korean woman toil over you and they make you do awkward things and like spread your butt cheeks yeah i love this one yeah or you have to like yeah and then when they do your asshole you're like excited because
Starting point is 02:00:47 it hurts the least you're like yes but i you're like homosexuals are really on to something with their depraved sexual practices i get waxed so much i am fairly desensitized to the pain and almost like it and it's actually for me a good barometer of how depressed i am because if i am if it doesn't hurt uh-huh then that means i'm really depressed yeah if i can't even feel the pain of getting wax then i'm like wow like you're you're in a dark place yeah but if i'm kind of like better go home and play some more chess you need to feel something anything anything but if i'm having a relatively normal pain response then i'm like okay you're good you're yeah you're you're fine no i know i had this like um stroke of inspiration where i was like i'm rich now i can hire some Asian lady to laser my
Starting point is 02:01:54 tanger yeah hell yeah the lady who did my wax today her last name was poon i noticed when i was sorry appropriate then motiving her i was like wow these things are all so young again why like you know you're naming yeah oh yeah you are you're destined to be a waxing technician because your last name is poon life is rich with yeah symbolism for sure it'll be funny if like the waxing and laser workers go and strike oh my god that'd be a nightmare i tip them very well yeah i always tip hands and legs they are well because it's so dirt cheap honestly it's like 60 something dollars yeah but it takes like 10 minutes 10 to 15 minutes yeah but who know they're probably in some kind of slave uh nail technician style arrangement yeah they have some like dowager pimp who comes in
Starting point is 02:03:03 yeah they're they're paying off their debt off the boat they cut them down um it seems yeah the play side goes you doesn't seem so unethical um but i've always kind of gone there and they do you know it's just it's all you know it isn't it's it there is a very interesting power dynamic to use an annoying phrase but it's like the bitter tears of petrovon can't we're like there you're supposedly the one in the driver's seat because you're paying them and you're getting your pussy waxed but you're actually there the power browser yeah you're really in this extremely vulnerable position it's like a really sick and twisted like carol pinterest play the servant and then you're like he uh here's my platinum amax and my social security number
Starting point is 02:04:01 yeah what's your pen mo i'll tip you handsomely for a job a job well done i'll adopt your children um but having a photo of myself in my house never no that's horrifying i can't even be having like cute family pictures of us with lenny that just feels wrong i do i do have picks of the baby up i don't know if that'll damage him psychologically i think that's okay my parents have my parents have the fucking hey g photo of me like pressing my kids together and then like latex dress printed out like framed in their house and i'm like i'm like this your daughter i'm like oh this her but that's sweet of them yeah yeah they're like this is artistic not pornographic yeah they're like and they i send them my press clippings and stuff and then i keep them press clipping
Starting point is 02:05:13 my press clippings then i keep them for myself literally like in a box in a storage unit like for posterity but i know it would never be like i'm in the new like revisiting them yeah yeah frame the like no fucking way absolutely not i have the the hey g new yeah on my muji bookshelf i can't bring myself to throw them out sometimes i oh you have to keep them i know but i like can't bear looking even have to look at it it's not about i'm never going to look at this photos but i know the magazine is so substantial and heavy it's like a paper way you could really like bludgeon a homeless person to death you could kill a man with a burlin creative a taut magazine or whatever that is um for sure i mean i even went out and bought a copy of the um new york magazine it girl
Starting point is 02:06:08 issue that like mentioned me as a footnote as a new right icon which i never signed up signed up for fact no in fact check that with me i'm a slightly right of center but yeah i went and like bought like two copies of that stashed them in a box you know i don't know one day i'll be like look i was a footnote gather around grandchildren look at that look look closer no closer no no that's julia foggs no that's that's hard enough no that's ritchie shazam that's ritchie shazam no that's me me see that tiny tiny tiny photo that's what york was like in 2023 the time we were rocking and rolling the times were good the roaring 20s we had so many
Starting point is 02:07:12 it girls tell me more about the homeless we had so many it girls we couldn't even keep we didn't know who most of them were less than we're just random they should do like an it girl chart for the top 50 homeless people vagrant inflation meet the top 50 craziest homeless people in new york then move a move aside it girls we've got guys who are crazy and they're on k2 do they're playing by their own ladies their faces are bloated beyond belief they do not be needing fillers nature's jubit erm so true neely looked good on he did he he really did look like willow smith deadass he was really beautiful i hate i really hate that photo i'm getting choked i really do i'm like the second i saw it i was like oh no well one really dark
Starting point is 02:08:29 and twisted sign of like homeless inflation is that the homeless people especially here in the downtown area have been getting progressively younger and more attractive and they literally look like bouncy aga models we need midland to be scooping i know i know and sometimes i i um experience like a moment of empathy and i'm just like can i take you home do you want a baby set do you need a job and then i remember that he's gonna bludgeon me to death with my uh berlin creative a top issue i know it's i mean remember to rob in this home hey kids do you want some moracy posters do you want this weird poster of this gender queer teen smoking a cigarette um i have a ton of pictures of uh the virgin mary in my in my house so it would be weird to juxtapose
Starting point is 02:09:26 those are the hoarish photographs of myself um so that's yeah it's too there's too much a religious ephemera around for me yeah nothing compels me to frame or display a photo of myself in my it's just weird to like encounter yourself all the time i don't want to see that i don't want to see that i don't want to see myself i don't want to hear my voice no thank you which is like a weird disconnect because we do be vain and we do be taking selfies sure yeah yeah for hooms too i think about this all the time because i'm like deeply mentally ill and i'm not looking for male attention i'm looking for a kind of like non-committal diffused attention sometimes what i'm saying is that it's much sicker and much less flattering than merely looking for male attention which would be like a fairly
Starting point is 02:10:16 normal and wholesome impulse it's something much weirder and much darker yeah i posted a photo of myself recently in a mugler skirt actually my waist looks really small because i saw it it was like it's from halloween like a year ago or 2021 halloween oops um but i saw it and i was like did i like put this through a chinese beauty app it was like my waist looks so tiny and then i was like damn i did it and then yeah and then i was just i did feel like a narcissistic impulse to be like damn people would really see that like my waist is so snatched yeah but it wasn't like solely really for male it's not like i'm like looking for male attention yeah as morris you would say it's for no one in particular yeah it's just yeah which is really just so much more deranged and
Starting point is 02:11:15 delusional for sure gotta put that out there definitely it's psychotic that's what i why i asked the question of whether you could ever tolerate having portraits of yourself in your own home which like any normal person's answers no and i really would like to get into the headspace of the type of woman who not only tolerates but actually enjoys this type of activity i think a lot of normal people actually do have photos of themselves and their families yeah they take pride in their normalcy which is also a good and healthy impulse i when i had to go to that like emergency obgyn back in december because i was like bleeding for 20 days i got a ultrasound and um the ultrasound operator was this like very normie lady who's probably like my age and she had all
Starting point is 02:12:16 these photos of her and her family like in her office and i um felt very resentful of her because she was penetrating me with like a cold clinical instrument and like was just the kind of like i was just like it was a mix of like resentment and self-loathing where i was like i'm never the kind of person who'll go to med school or have a photo of my family in an office somewhere like this is like this is so far away and instead i'm like have some weird hormonal condition or slash i'm having like a chemical pregnancy it's like i don't know like something's wrong with me and something's so right with her and i despise her and i despise that she has these like photos of her family in this office where she treats women who like are probably having
Starting point is 02:13:08 fertility problems or like you know she's like rubbing it in and then that's not her mindset at all she clearly just loves her family is proud of that it's like a normal normal healthy person but but there is some like Freudian through line where you could argue yeah we are like why it's actually like cruel and belittling to subject other people who have reproductive problems and she said to me because it was the whole bureaucracy of the clinic was so messy like i had already met with like some nurse who told me i was having a quote weird period which i was like that's not i don't like that like i don't know what that is is that a medical do you learn a med school and then they're like go get an ultrasound and then like there was so little communication between
Starting point is 02:13:56 the divisions of the clinic that she was like are we here to confirm a pregnant she said are we here to confirm a pregnancy and i was like i fucking hope not i was like i hope not i was like i'm bleeding i'm like hemorrhaging blood i really hope i'm not pregnant because i think the baby is dead but like nice family you bitch i was mad mad school treating you i can't wait to bring this anecdote up with my shrink who i love to discuss this kind of stuff with i talked about with my therapist yeah it's as samuel delayney said i finally found a shrink who i can talk about Freud with so nice yeah yeah i have i have that kind of i literally just go to my sessions and talk about the ordeal of civility
Starting point is 02:14:49 and he gets like palpably uncomfortable because i'm not only you're like breaking the fourth wall yeah and i'm not only impinging upon his profession but i'm impinging upon his race his race yeah yeah which is the part of the therapy that i really relish that jewish mind games are gonna work this time because i read a new book doctor and also the other thing about therapy that i really love is that like sitting in a room and talking about yourself for an hour yeah really makes you realize how much of a delusional narcissistic retard you are because it's not that deep and it's like literally okay yeah and what was that thing you said about um who the russian who was russian writer was it tulstoy or just iovsky who said that like life is beautiful
Starting point is 02:15:41 novica novica the quiet the lovely and lovable world that quietly persists yeah i'm sure i'm portraying i'm sure was better than that some of it yeah the real benefit of therapy is like you pay them to leave like a whore yeah i mean therapists are prostitutes for women yes and you go outside and you realize that there's this small and mundane but truly sublime and exciting life all around you and that you're part of it and you're like a speck of dust on the earth as my father used to say and the dust you shall return yeah anyway see you now

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