Red Scare - Holiday Loveline

Episode Date: January 11, 2024

New year, same old burning love and sex questions.

Music Okay, like Julia and like Salami really, are you good girl? I was like, drama post and just, but partly it was because I went through all these like love line questions and all y'all seem really, yeah. Oh wait, are we recording? I just started recording how we can roll it back. Oh no, it's fine. Oh yeah, I noticed that you were kind of spiraling on the TL, but that was a really good tweet. The one that was like, it's over for me, but

if you love someone, you should make sure that you reach the mission. It's true, like really try it. I should because you're gonna regret it your whole life. You have to sometimes take drastic measures. Like what did you say like barge into the apartment? You should barge into the apartment. I have to go inside their house and tell them you love them.

They're like in the process of filing a restraining order. I mean, within reason, but I do think, I don't know, listening to lots of our lonely Zoomer callers, I think drastic measures need to be taken. Especially when you're young. Especially when you're young, you need to be chemically calm. Especially when you're young. Especially when you're young. Especially when you're young.

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Especially when you're young. Especially when you're young. Especially when you're young. Especially when you're young. Especially when you're young. Especially when you're young. Especially when you're young. Especially when you're young. Especially when you're young. Especially when you're young. Either it goes well on the other person, reciprocates your feelings, or it goes horribly, horribly wrong. And then you end. But it doesn't kill you. You're rejected and humiliated, but yeah, what doesn't kill you makes you fat or you're like, you're like, spiralist, you're fenging. I don't know.

I guess it's for like, BPD. Mm-hmm. Type advice. Yeah. No, no, no. I like burn every bridge. They don't understand you girl. And, you know, there's no time in a place for boundaries.

I was like also spiraling and kind of doom posting. So depressing. Also spiraling and kind of doom posting So depressing I was like how do you people permit yourselves blah blah blah? Well that really and some guy responded to me and was like are you sure this is depression or is it envy? Because you're not them and I was like no, no, I really don't envy a bunch of 50-year-old men screaming at each other I don't want wanna be like that girl. Yeah, permit yourself really reminds me of Dima. Yeah, no, that's where I got it from. I mean, happy belated.

Oh yeah, happy belated, Dima. Camp Rcourst season. Girl, I, by my church, is how to baby, I'm not gonna be, I, my church has had a baby. I'm not gonna. I heard her out, but you what? I got my church has had a baby on my dad's. Oh, congratulations. He was like, I saw her on Christmas Eve and she was past due.

So she was like, he was pregnant. And we're all like, we're waiting. He was supposed to be born before Christmas. Um, was it her first baby? Oh, yeah, that's normal. They always tell you all the slow-lock ladies are saying that. Not the way I do it. Yeah, oh, you know who else has your dad's birthday, which I just found out I can't

believe I didn't know. No, it was his birthday. He was so hot. I didn't really. He was so No. It was his worth areas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was so hot. I didn't really, he was so gorgeous. No, my dad's dad. Oh. Henry, Guillain de Rix. Guillain de Rix. Which makes sense, because he was such a cap growing up.

Where are you? Like, Festidius and Judgmental. Good quality. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we're doing a love a love line for the holidays yeah everyone was all pit like so ungrateful and pissed I know I also the other day I was like getting I thought people were praying phone calling me. Mm-hmm. Because I got like three phone calls from like weird giggling like teenagers. Mm-hmm.

Who were like trolling me? Some, some of them were told that some of them were just, I just couldn't really make sense of it. And then I realized that somehow the love line calls are redirecting to my cell phone. Mm-hmm. So I was like answering my phone and being like, what the fuck are you? You're not funny. I was like answering my phone and being like, what the fuck are you? You're not funny.

So it was like nothing personal. It was a random. I was literally calling the love line and I was picking up the phone and like berating them. I remember I realized first that you were here. I think like I'm hanging up now. He was like, just so you, like she reminded us

that our phone numbers were like listed in the white pages. A couple of years ago, and she personally took them down so she showed up to her. She showed up maddy. That's crazy that it even occurred to her. She has a lot of capricorn in her chart, actually. Okay, that makes sense.

But also like an aquarium kind of like creativity. It's even thing, you know, it's very, yeah. I think caps are the worst earth signs because all earth signs are like prone all earth signs or prone to hold others in Moral contempt But the other ones like have other qualities that kind of counteract that whereas like capricorns totally don't

What are they Torres Capricorn and Virgo? Oh? Yeah Yeah, I am most low with Trinity of the city What are they Taurus, Capricorn, and Virgo? Yeah. Yeah. The most low-thrinity of the subject. No. Water signs. It depends. But a lot of people have had a lot of bad experiences. Yeah, the grass is always greener.

Yeah. I have no earth in my chart. I know. I know. So that's... Yeah. But air signs, I think, are the best. I'm partial to water signs, myself. Wait, who are the other two?

Scorpio and Cancer. Oh, right. No, my favorite, but as a crabby, yeah. As a crabby, I'm like I like I don't know Pisces is like the only Not directly poisonous one because it doesn't have like the little pincers and hooks Yeah, it's just it's the one that's the most submerged. Yeah, it's the most like The one is drowning the most but

Do you have any New Year's resolutions? I haven't seen a lot of those floating around lately. People have been doing the ins and outs, but no resolutions. People have really given up on a self-improvement. Um, I guess I'll give, not by any way now, I was a shot again. I'm gonna do every year. I was thinking about maybe doing a cleanse,

but probably around the lens when it kind of makes more sense for me. Yeah. Um, because Amanda 14ney told me that if you do a very intense cleanse, it'll lighten the color of your eyes. Wait, what is this business about your eyes getting darker? I just was looking at them, the other night I was like, my eyes getting dark.

Like, could that be happening? What? Am I okay or my eyes like, they're like, you've been hanging out at Sobernhouse too much. It's because I'm on drugs, my pupils are huge, I'm like, what's going on?

Oh my god, you know what I have been doing though is niacin I know I was gonna ask you about that because the group chat was talking about it today And how it like apparently expands your blood vessels which is beneficial for Your brain activity, but not so beneficial for your digestive system. I don't know how true any of this is. I did nice and flush in the early days of COVID because Twitter user Ben Brattix said, I'm like, come on, yes. So what you're going to want to do is take a nice and flush, like, gynecologist Ben Brattix.

Yeah. Take a nice and flush like gynecologist and Braddock. Yeah fuck and Wash it down with some glycine. It was like a whole regimen of like shit that definitely doesn't work I mean, I don't know about any of the purported benefits of an eye scene. I'm having been privy to those but it makes you red it makes you red and itchy Mm-hmm and kind of feels bad, but at least it feels like something. Yeah, that's kind of why I've been doing. It brings you closer to feeling Asian. And I, well, my face doesn't get so red, my get more of my body does. I wanted to be like flush. That's why I took it. No, no, it's not, you don't get like a pretty like a rosy cheek flush

Your face just turns red. Yeah, you look like you have like eczema or rosacea. I have like intense waves like nausea and then it passes and you kind of feel better but maybe just because you feel so bad Yeah, you can't like target the nice and flush but Yeah, you can't like target the nice and flush but I thought what was I gonna say but I'm gonna keep taking it But it's the only way that us round eyes can understand what it feels like to be like an Asian person who drinks alcohol Yeah, and like has that response. I never yeah, I don't get much blood in the face as the neo-nazis call it That's good. I like the pale look personally. Yeah. I like a

spot. I'm going to start carrying a parasol. Salo. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have any new resolutions? Honestly, I was like thinking about it today and my only big one is to drink more water. Because everybody keeps telling me that it's gonna be totally life-changing. The water? Yeah. And it sucks though. You have to trick yourself into thinking it's fine.

I know Thomas Chatterton, 777, told me that he was drinking two liters of water and then it gave him energy and made a skin nice. And I was like, really? Because you seem kind of like you're like default, pretty high energy and have nice skin. He seems so healthy. Yeah.

I don't think it's the water babe. I mean, that there's got to be something to it. I think that's probably good. I think literally all of my problems come down to me not drinking enough water. Yeah, we're just we've been dehydrated in 10 years. Like if I can drink water, I'll finally be happy. Or yeah. At least the only one drink of water is when I'm like deeply hung over.

And then I really drink a lot of water, but I feel like it's never enough and you never like get up to speed or whatever. No, it'd be nice to not be operating like a deficit. And then you can actually experience the health effects of water. I would also really love to get abs again, which seems doable, but I'm not going to make that my resolution because it's too much pressure and I hope that the drinking water leads to it. You'll be less like a domino-cooked kid. Maybe, but water also blotes you. Well, temporarily, but like exercise also blotes you temporarily. I never feel fatter than when I leave the gym. I know, I know. My arms are really huge.

Yeah, I'm not looking forward to there being more people at the gym. Yeah, there were a lot today. Everyone's trying to get, I'm like, just leave it to please. Leave it to the professional athletes, like myself. To use the gym equipment Yeah, I should come up with a good resolution, but there's definitely a way I could improve my I think you want them to be Kind of like realistic and actionable Like they can't be like

Be a better person. Yeah, fine true love. Yeah. No, no. No, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I'm gonna take some drastic measures. The nails, I'm gonna focus on the nails. Would you bite the nail or the cuticle? The nails, they're not like nubs, but anytime I get any kind of length, I will inevitably nod off. Do you think that that's anxiety?

Oral fixation. Just, but I've always, always done it. I've never stopped. Yeah, I'm like a cuticle bite or it's really bad. And I'll like bite them until they bleed. But you have really nice nails. Well, I got a manicure for new years. Fab. Yeah, I think it's just about getting manicures kind of consistently.

Yeah, because then you really don't want to bite them. Yeah. And it's very hard. I mean, they make that nail polish that tastes bad. But you don't even need that, honestly. I've tried it and I just, I'm just, I'm so, I'm taking, I mean they make that nail polish that tastes bad. But you don't even need that honestly. I've tried it and I just, I'm so, I'm taking, I take Nias and to feel bad. I like, I'm not the bad taste in my mouth.

It's not gonna deter me. My new year's resolution is to get into Nias and flushes. When I heard Nias and flush, I thought it meant like flush as in like flush your system, but it means like flush as in your skin flushes. Yeah. But also somehow, yeah. It does feel like a shock to the system.

It's actually so crazy that people take all these retarded supplements just to feel something. I mean, most that's why the nicens and treating us because most of them don't do anything, or like that I can perceive because I take pharmaceuticals You know wait what kind of pharmaceuticals are you taking now? Are you allowed to say yeah like regularly? I mean I'm a I take ambience and

Benzos, okay Like how regularly It depends Okay, but like how regularly it depends But that's why like I'm like this supple no more relax you. I'm like Relax me like a clone of it Otherwise, I'm not gonna like feel it Yeah, I guess the only pharmaceutical I'm on is a TRET, but it's topical. Not too, yeah. I'm still going. I'm still really using the TRET's amazing. It's amazing. It's the only thing that works. It really is. I think vitamin C and vitamin D are

legitimately good for you. But it's like really the basics. I've been taking vitamin D K. the basics. I've been taking vitamin D, K. What is K? I don't know, Matthew gave me some vitamin D supplement that has K and C also in it and then he's also been getting me to take fish oil. Even though Jury's out on Ranset. What does Matthew think about the Pete theory about fish oils? He's a fish oil truth or he thinks that they're not rancid and that they do work. Well, another thing that I kind of fell off on taking, but is supposedly really good is the methylene blue. Yeah, I remember when you were taking that.

Yeah, it's just, it's a little intense because it really just like stains everything blue. Yeah. I had a palma granite earlier. Kind of like that. Yeah, there's like blood everywhere. And it's always a shock because you forget you took it obviously. It's like forgetting that you're going to get your period and being like bloated and irritable and wondering why. Yeah. But you pee like bluish green whenever you take it. Yeah, I take a B-biting that I'm dying. Why isn't it amber color like usual? Water, yeah.

I'm trying to... Nymph, yeah, try to... Nymphia. I think that's a good one. I'm gonna steal that. I'm also gonna try to... It's good, you just have to get... Well, I bought a 12-case of Vischy Catalan. You told me, but I don't think the...

You don't think the Sparkling... The carbonated waters Oh fuck There are like 50% air and 50% sodium. Yeah, I don't think those are really hydrating right? No, they have to be like they're not as hydrating as regular water. It's like regular old ass. Yeah Fair enough, but I don't know but I drank a ton that, which I didn't like at first and then forced myself to. You get used to it, yeah. And I mean, like I said, I love the barijomi, which is like the Georgian mineral water that tastes like alcoseltzer, because I love the alcoseltzer.

That's what the Vichy tastes. And I love actually putting aloseltz in sparkling water. Yeah, it's amazing. For extra benefit. There must be some like nutritional, like we must be deficient in some things. I think we are. So we have that for sure.

Yeah, my New Year's is just gonna get some of that gray matter back. Not if you get pregnant. It's over. It's over for me. I think you're dumb now. Yeah. I saw, I don't know.

I think it's be hazardous for me to get dumber. Yeah, I mean, I really, true, nobody believes me, but I got significantly dumber after I had the baby. People say this. Yeah, well, like my haters, but none of my like, friends or family, they think that I'm being like self-deprecating. No, but people say you got the baby brain, whatever it is. Yeah, you just become dumber.

Yeah. It's not, it's not that you're quote, forgetful or have like worse memory or something like that, it's you literally just cannot process information as efficiently as you used to and can't make sense of it. I already feel so confused. I know. Like back in the day, I had kind of like a moderate amount

of confidence that if somebody posed a question or a problem to me and armed me with some facts or information, I could, you know, make heads and tails out of it. Thank you, Dalsha. But all I'm saying is that it's a feeling of, you know what I'm saying? It's like a, I know exactly. Literally just a feeling of like fuzziness and confusion at all times. Yeah, yeah. Like when they were talking about the Arab Spring last night, I know exactly. Literally just a feeling of like fuzziness and confusion at all times. Yeah, yeah. Like when they were talking about the Arab Spring last night, I was like, what the fuck?

That's why I was like, what is Arab Spring? Because I'm like, okay. Can you pair it down? Yeah. And I think in the past, when those kind of topics came up, I'd be like excited about them. I'd be like, oh, this is like a philosophically

interesting proposal. And now I'm just like, don't care. Yeah, I'm just confused. I'm confused, angry, and then have like inappropriate emotional reactions to things. Yeah, I'm like, can't we just talk about something that I know about, like, uh, that a calorie restrict and like kidding me. I got so much down there. I got a whole lot of... And drunk again.

Yeah, I don't eat enough. Yeah, starving and wasted. I mean, I think Benzo's dope also are bad for your memory and stuff. I mean, that's probably everything. Yeah. Well, whatever. I'm happy I don't remember. I hope I forget last night. It's real good. Blessed are the forgetful. Mm-hmm.

But they get the best even if they're blunders. What's that? It's a quote that from Alexander Pope that I only know because Cusin Zenz has an eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, which is kind of the titular line. Okay. Because the second half of the quote is like eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. Blah, blah, blah. But that's why I know it. That must be nice to have a spotless mind.

I know right. Unblemished. Damn. Yeah, it is nice to have severe memory loss up to a point. Because it also really gets you out of a lot of social obligations and buying and just say, it was so hard. Oops, my bad. I will, I'm apparently genetically prone to Alzheimer's as well. Okay, well the methylene blue supposedly helps with that.

If you want to nip it in the bud, but maybe you don't. I mean, I don't know, not my problem. Sorry to my loved ones, but... Maybe you don't. I mean, I don't know, not my problem. Sorry to my loved ones, but. Yeah. Oh, boom. That's for Maddie's, that's the one's like Maddie's problem.

That's a good anti-natalist argument because the ones that people come up with are like really gay and annoying, like the climate or whatever. And you can always argue that since you're predisposed to all side of the issue, you never have children because you don't want to be somebody's burden. But it's much more selfless than being like an environmentalist about it.

Of course. Well, it's never about that anyway. But that's why I need to have the kids because I got it, someone's got it. Someone's sitting here, feed me pudding with my brains. I'm ready. Lennie. Yeah, you were finally turned to your age, got a relationship.

Oh my god, ew. Yeah, I met him when he was a baby. And we always had a connection. But last night when I left you guys I was like, okay, this night has probably shaved a couple of weeks, so a couple of months off of my life. And I don't know how I feel about that. Like, I don't feel so bad. That's ultimately... It's no... We won't live in additional moments longer than God wants us to.

No, I know. And that's ultimately how I know I'm going to say to Nick Fuentes when I finally meet him when he comes on the show next year. Like, I know I'm not Jewish because I'm really not precious about living forever. Like, I know I'm not Jewish, because I'm really not precious about living forever. Like, I don't care. No, longevity is not a priority. That's not a priority of mine for sure. It's not something that keeps me up at night.

That'll be a fun combo when we explain to Nekwantas why you're not Jewish. Who would wish? And I can tell him why he's not Christian. I know. You are gay. You are making a look into your teeth. By the way, logo blocked me.

Why? I don't know. Did you say something mean to him? Not at all. Interesting. Let me see if he blocked me. I've been pretty nice to him ever since we, you know, a week he came on the show and I Thought we had some like human recognition or something

And then I don't know how long ago. Oh, I'm not blocked weird interesting. I don't know what I did Do you want me to ask him and also touch the block? No, it's probably for the best Whatever yeah No, it's probably for the best. Whatever. Yeah, we can get a scholarship. Hey girl, long time listener, the exam of the pod, first time caller on loveline. Yeah, so here's my situation. Last week, a random guy tweeted at me asking me on the date

if we lived in the same state. I was showing bored and impulsive, so I agreed to go on a blind date with him. After I messaged him and found out that he actually did live in the same state. I didn't know his name or even what he looked like until I walked into the restaurant to meet him and saw him. And he actually ended up being super hot. A huge chat, a square jawline, super jacked. I was, I was smitten. But during the day, he mentioned to me that I blocked him on another one of his Twitter accounts. I told him that he must have done something really bad because I only blocked people as a last resort. But he pulled out his phone and showed me the tweet he made of a chaos magic sigil, putting a curse on me to get hit by a bus,

or get eaten by a pack of dogs. I remember back when I saw the video, it legitimately freaked me out, and this is why I blocked him, because he was evil, obviously. The data ended up actually going really well, and I have a crush on him. He seems pretty normal and not dangerous. He just kind of seems like a shithead online.

You girls think that I should continue to pursue this guy who had the evil in his heart to put a curse on me, or do you think it's dangerous? Should I just, should I see her clear? Also additional question, how do you feel about the enemies to love her trope? Okay, thanks again, goodbye. Thanks again. Goodbye Dasha So she went on a date with Biden rape grape for her um, I mean I'm all for have I'm all for having fun online

You know, but it sounds like he is dabbling in the dark arts and It's possible he put a love spell on you. Damn, that's true. You know, it sounds like you might not be in control of this dynamic. But if you like him, maybe see how it goes. I say go on another day and see it through. I was gonna go with a more earth sign moral judgment piece of advice, which is that like what happens

on social media stays on social media and people just like are way worse to the point of being subhuman on social media. They permit themselves too much. Especially In the a non sphere. Yeah, these sensitive young men. Mm-hmm. I liked Veronica's tweet That was like bitch you're not a sensitive young man. You're an attention-hor online. I'm sick of these sensitive I'm so sick of them too You're not sensitive.

No, you're a monster. You're just a narcissist. I'm gonna, I'm gonna repin my tweet. Yeah, ever green take. I never thought I'd say this, but like I find like eagirl tone so annoying where they're always like moping around. Yeah. And humble bragging about how desirable they are.

But in a way that's forgivable and expected because they are women and they're just doing what women have done throughout history. Yeah. So it's like pretty harmless all in all. But when men adopt that feminine tone, it makes me sick. I don't care how funny you are. I mean, I like some of the, I mean, I really like, Mart, of course, and this, like, Egyptian guy that I'm like, all my friends with, like, an alcoholic,

and it's always posting kind of, like, uh, uh, Chorin-esque, like, afrosomes. It's sensitive and kind of like a Chorin-esque like aphorisms sensitive and draw-died But it's very takes, you know, very few people can really do it well much like the e-girl thing too It's like there's a reason some really ascend within the e-girl hierarchy Yeah, you have to be so talented that you transcend the genre exactly And the fact is most of you aren't. You need to pack it up and go home.

And I still maintain that the internet basically is for women or social media at least, is for women and homosexuals. Yeah, but like the flip side of that is that it turns men into spiritual feminists. Yeah, which is horrible. I really, I think for New Year's sensitive young man is out. Yeah, what an insensitive old bitch is it?

Yeah, I What if people were like power tweeting all the time? What like Just being like positive. A firm money and a firm name. Yeah, yeah, that would be interesting. Yeah, I might try that. I'm kind of like, what if all of you guys stop being so ironic and actually tweeted

in a light-footed and good-humored way about your actual interests and passions. Would it be so bad? I know. It's my Fisher King's kind of a good account. Not to get deep in. Well, I like his recipes and he's always like, yeah, he is kind of good and nature and doesn't seem to ever be like trying to like farm engagement by like provoking people into blind rages.

I mean what I do like about social media is that it kind of exposes all of our like insecurities and flaws one way or another And through that you get to know people better and they become more relatable And you like them more in spite of it, if they're good and funny. Yeah. But I really, really, really sick and tired of the sensitive young man trope and tone at this point. I mean, it's like all online phenomenon.

It just got matched through the turd cutter of Twitter. Yeah. And got kind of like stale and canned. It's been overly amplified. And yeah, a lot of y'all like don't need to be reading each other. You're like, you're not getting it. But I mean, I think the guy probably made

that horrible cursed video because he thought she was hot. He had a crush on me. He was trying to get your attention. Yeah. And maybe he didn't mean anything. I think the fact that he told her about it is a good, you know, it's the sort of thing that would be horrifying to discover. But I think in the interest of of openness, he's trying to

reach you. He's in love with you. Go for it. Sounds like you found the one. New year, new year. Sounds like a real meat cube for the ages. And what was the last thing that the trip of enemies to lovers? Which I've never heard of that. I'm not familiar with that. That sounds like another way of saying opposites attract. Yeah, I'm more familiar with like forced seduction kind of trope. Oh, you should.

Oh, my God. This is literally what's it called when you fall in love with your kidnapper? Stockholm Syndrome? Yeah. That's how bad it is. That's what she knows. That's how bad it is. I'm like, and I just looked it up the other day. The stuff that I Google, because I can't remember what something is called, would shock you.

It's me. Yeah. Yeah, Stockholm syndrome. Lucky you. Must be nice. All right, should we next question? Hey, girls, love your pod. Quick question for you. So I recently moved to a new city, started dating to Monastery once now.

You've shown me something on Google Maps when I was going the other day. And all these half-word messages kept popping up. So long story short, turns out he's a full-time escort. So my question is, I do like him a lot. I feel like it's going somewhere. It definitely has the central. He definitely left me back. But obviously the escort thing kind of bothers me. And I know it's 2023 and it should have blah blah blah. But when he's working late and then wants to come hang out, it definitely kind of grosses you out a little or bothers me. He says it's not a forever thing because we've been doing it for about six years,

but I guess my question is, should I, you know, when I do like him, so I see where it goes and just assume that, you know, he'll eventually stop, you know, all work out, or should I stop feeding myself and not data from you? Anyhow, my friends are all, my friends and I all love your show. So keep it up. Thanks. Congrats on not having gay boys. I know. I was like, you sound remarkably straight. Yeah.

It's crazy. You can date someone for months and not know that they're a full-time escort prostitute. I mean, it's six years? Yeah. Wait, how long have they been dating? That is just a couple months. Okay. But this guy's been a prostitute for six years.

I think if he had revealed that on the first date, it would have, or on the second date, whatever, it would have been different than if he had kept that on the first day, it would have, or on the second day, whatever it would have been different than If he had kept it from you for months. Yeah, that's kind of a red flag for me. That's more so a red flag even than the prostituting Yeah, I appreciate when people are like communicative and transparent like up front and Repulsion is a healthy instinct. Yeah, always. You should trust that.

You should always trust your gut. Yeah. And yeah, I think like everything now is predicated on making people suppress their like instinctual misgivings about romantic situations. Like people being polyamorous or literal prostitute. And you're supposed to be like, putting a curse on you.

2023, 2024 now, like we're all progressive and open-minded here. It's all good. And like sometimes it's not. Yeah, sometimes it's just not a right fit. And you gotta go with your guide. I'm like kind of of two minds in answering this question because I don't want to encourage him to not date this guy that he really likes on one hand, but on the other hand, I find that when people say that their

prostituting is not a forever thing, they're totally lying through their teeth. I mean, because that's the thing they're used to and they fall back on a ways. Well, it just can't be a forever thing. Well, eventually it's going to have to have the wall. Yeah. The attractiveness, the diminishing of the turns. But then what do you have? We have a 6G or a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a your life together that doesn't involve the escorting. An exit strategy. And you can't be the exit strategy.

You can't save him, but me unless. You can maybe become an escorting duo. Yeah, you should get into escrowing. I think we've got a great way to meet guys. I logged on to Twitter in the wee hours of the morning last night and the right wing men were talking about some movie, it's like a late career Sophia Loren, where she plays a retired prostitute

who runs like a halfway house for the children of other current prostitutes and she ends up adopting like a Senegalese boy who stole from her. Interesting, it's like a total like, lib tarred fest, but I'm so curious. I really wanna watch this one from like 2002 or something, 2003. You're just like dying to see this movie.

Yeah, that sounds pretty good. Yeah, it's like heartfelt. And I bet it's not as, I don't know. Some oftentimes people will have these very like politically charged uh, reads on films that are kind of besides the point. And some, some of these are going guys like, like, nuance.

And they can only kind of see something for its like political signifiers. Yeah, they demean the purpose of art. Yeah. When perhaps the movie has really existed. I merely exist. Exactly. Yeah, so to make a long story short, I would say go for it,

but yeah, make him give you an exit strategy. And just stay in touch with yourself. Hey, Anne and Darcia, will you say that you just really get laid? Thanks. Well, we can't answer that for you as members of the opposite sex because we can get laid by merely showing up somewhere. These are a thousand of them. I mean, probably the apps just to give them pragmatic answer. No, we can. It doesn't matter.

Like if you don't want to, then you choose not to. That's your choice. But realistically, if you should, if I really wanted to, even if you have heartedly wanted to, like if, you know, a woman shows up somewhere. Someone will fuck her up. Someone's doing the fuck. Yeah, totally. Yeah, but as a man, I guess get on the apps, Yeah, but as a male, I guess get on the apps or make a chaos magic sigil and send it to your favorite evil girl. Yeah, an AI wife who that's programmed not to refuse. What's the easiest way for men to get laid to neg women? We mean besides like Tinder?

Yeah. That's my question. It's Tinder guaranteed though. Basically I think. If you're like, well, you know, there's all those, you know, stats that come out periodically how hard it is for men on the dating apps, but I think if you're within a reasonable...

Yeah, if you're like a sort of, you pay for everything, but people are on those apps that you can probably have sex, yeah. I mean, if you're a girl on Tinder meeting up with guys, you're probably gonna let them hit. But I don't know, actually. Maybe that's a good question. I think we're only speaking for ourselves. Yeah, I'm like, if you meet up with me,

like, these these women get laid, it's by me a couple drinks, brother. I think there's a lot of girls out there who legitimately have self-respect and don't really hop into bad with men. But they're probably not on Tinder at all, maybe not. But who knows? You can definitely find some despicable skanks on the apps. Yeah, if getting late is all you want, it shouldn't be.

That's not the hard part. For most people. It's getting them to leave. Yeah, the easiest way to get in the pros is leaving. Become a male jiggle though. Hi, Amanda. I love you guys so much. So my whole life, the horniest I ever get is when I'm running out of time for something, or running light for something. Like, if I'm laying in bed and I have to be at work in 10 minutes, I instantly get incredibly fucking horny. And can't get ready for work, I have to en mass rate first.

I even remember when I was a kid, I was like in elementary school before I knew what being horny was. I was taking a pass and had five minutes left and had a bunch of questions left. I would get the feeling I knew it was, I was horny-ness. And like, when I'm running out of time for anything or when a situation gets stressful, I immediately get like really horny. And um, I just, and this makes me feel like a freak. I don't know why.

Um, and yeah, I was all, I'm a baby procrastinator. Like my mom was always running late as a kid, like yelling and screaming, trying to get out of the house for time and stuff. So yeah, why do you think this is psychologically? I don't think this is a horniness question at all. You have anxiety disorder and you're creating surrogate activities for the fact that you hate work in school, which like welcome to the club sister. Nobody wants to do things that are like responsibilities or obligations and people generally stall on them. Yeah, I think the mom detail was telling that in her child that her mom was frequently running late and chimping and stuff.

Yeah, I mean, I think I've used and abused the word narcissism many times in the history of our podcast, but I have a very vivid memory of being a child and watching like a Mori Povitch or Sally Jessie Raphael type talk show where there was like a really beautiful woman on stage and she was talking about how she was habitually late to everything to the point that it made her friends, family, like perspective, boyfriends really angry and upset.

And whoever the host was, was like, well, Mari, Mari probably was like, well, you're a narcissist or maybe they have like a clinical psychologist on her, or something like that. And they were like, you really just like don't care about other people's feelings. Yeah. But the way that I think we've all solved for that is that we become friends with people who are like us and who are also always running eventually late. Yeah. And that's a cultural thing.

Some cultures are later than others. I think Russian people have. Russian people have, you know. One of my first friendships in New York was with this girl who's also named Anna-K and was also an aspiring architectural and art history student. And I really loved and appreciated our friendship because she was later than me. And I'm pretty late and there's like no hard feelings between us because like I think we got it. It was like a

tacit understanding that we had. Yeah and I think in general that's a nice this is diverging away from our caller's question, but it's in a way, I don't think lateness is so rude. I actually don't know. Yeah, I'm being dramatic, but you know what I'm saying. But some people really do. Some people really get but her capricorns. Yeah, and so in a way, habitual lateness is a way of like cultivating relationships perhaps with people that are accommodating and easygoing. Yeah, but like you said, my mom always said, I think I've said this on the show before the Nicarasovsky Baroda is, that's like me and my dad's side of the family, Um, that's like my, my, me and my dad's side of the family is that we don't, we're not the most like thoughtful, uh-huh, but we don't like hold grudges or like hold other people to like a high standard of caring about us either.

Yeah, but that's an amazing quality to, but I think that's what we get along. Yeah, it's both kind of a live and let live bitches. Exactly. Yeah, we're never gonna get too like butt-hard about anything. Yeah. And my pet peeve historically was always like when people would press me and stress me and be like, yeah, why didn't you do this or you should have done that like, scaldi and reprimanding, I hate being under somebody else's thumb. Because I really don't hold it against people. No, life happens.

Yes. There are certain things that I really do hold against people, but it's hard to have a grudge when you have severe memory loss. Also true. Also like, blessing. I think forgetfulness and lateness are symptoms of the same disease.

And like, yeah, who among us, you know, has always been on time. And if you've ever been late, you should empathize with a late person in knowing that like they're probably experiencing much more excruciating stress trying to like... Trying on out, taking selfies in the air. Well, like whatever inconvenience you're experiencing, like waiting for someone, I guess I like to imagine that they are suffering more because they're the ones who are trying to get somewhere. But I also think our the collar, it actually sounds very, it makes total sense to me, that this feeling of like anticipation would have a little bit of all kinds of consequences.

Right, I've never heard it, I've never heard anybody else articulate it, but I don't know about it. But I get it. I don't like flick my bean for hours when I have to go to a business or anything like that. I'm a professional adult woman, but I do have the same impulses ideation. Yeah, that seems very human. And that like, yeah, whorning-ness broadly speaking is probably has something to do with this kind of feeling. And you know what time is running out for all of us? advice would be not to fab when you feel an impulse to and instead Because sometimes yeah, I do kind of I'll get like horny before I have to go somewhere

and I'll purposefully not jack off So that I can like have that energy going into it, whatever. So it's like Mike Tyson. Yeah, exactly. But use this feeling to like fuel, you know, it sounds like you have a lot of untapped potential. And I guess my advice would be to ask yourself how much of a problem is it really? It sounds healthy, yeah.

Yeah, like if people around you were getting mad, then conceivably maybe you're doing something wrong and should reevaluate your theory. But it sounds like she's not even, you know, she's, people around you are getting mad and conceivably maybe you're doing something wrong and should reevaluate your own. But it sounds like she's not even, you know, she's, she did identify as a procrastinator, but not, she didn't really say that she's like necessarily super late to stuff. Because she also said when she takes a test and time is running out, it's like a generalized experience.

She's like distracting herself from the task at hand. Yeah. But just roll with a useless warning. We know her. I would say to re-channel that energy, your Oregon reserves into being the best version of yourself. That's good advice. Hi, Hannah and Dasha, um, question for you. So I'm like,

gay, guy. Okay. I'm in basically my first serious relationship and it's going well. And we're not nearly at the stage yet, but he did mention that in about five years, he'd want to have kids. And I'm a bit younger than him but i'm not that young i'm thirty three but like i'm down i think in the future but there was a big controversy on twitter

like a couple weeks ago where a lot of people were anti gay guys having it's doing a surrogate pregnancy uh... which i really like that idea. I've known some families who adopted. It's been difficult for them.

I actually know of a family, this is crazy, but I actually know of a family who they're adopted, kid, like killed them. It's crazy. And I know there's a rare case, but it kind of scares me. So what do you think? Did gay guys be very good parents? Also this is very random but the guy I'm dating has like a very very similar like that around us Anna is like the same age and Rousseau Armenian from my Zarbai I mean, I'm from Azerbaijan, and I have to keep not being like, oh, that reminds me of my

close personal friend, Anna, when you got stuff from me. Anyway, big fan, love you guys. Thanks. Um, where do you think, well, first of all, where do you think the orphan that killed that family was from? Uh, I'm not going to go down that route. Not today, Satan. It was from I'm not gonna go down that route Today Yeah, what race?

He brings up a very interesting question because again like Surgacy is like a moral and ethical mind field and is like a moral and ethical mind field. And the right wing people want to steer it into this kind of pito grooming direction. Like gay men are unfit to be parents because they're all like namble whatever. My issue with it is more out of a concern for the surrogates themselves. That seems to be the primary ethical issue. Yeah, of course. But the flip side of that, though, is the adoption question,

which is a very also fraught territory that nobody talks about because it gets into these like, distinctions between nature and nurture. And when you have a biological kid, you never know what you're getting and it could be really bad. But like with adoption, it seems that that's like multiplied.

Of course. And well, I actually assumed the murder as orphan was Russian because they famously have some of I actually know a family who adopted a kid from Russia from Russian orphanage and sent it back. You can do that's like a drink. I think it's like the saffron n' agronia. I got it. It'll poop. I didn't send it back. I'm too cocked. I know. You're too Persian. But yeah, if you get a kid from one of these Russian or Ukrainian orphanages, which is pretty much the only place you can get a white kid these days. Well, yeah. Yeah, I mean any kind of orphanage foster care system

probably is going to be like fraught and the kids will have inevitably. That's, you know, I think with adoption, it's not their kids fault. Yeah, they've already had like a checkered pass and have these likeingering traumas. I'm going to be positive and open-minded and say that if you can and are in the position to adopt, it's probably a good thing.

Yeah. Because everybody needs love into home. For sure. No, it's actually your duty as a human being, I think. I would like to have like a broad, blank, ideological position on this, but I don't. I feel like it's something that you have to like, weigh with your partner.

Also, it's another thing that he brings up. It's very funny. The guy being from a similar background to me. I've noticed among gay men that the most family oriented and child-friendly ones are like the southern whites, Latinos, and black men. Like I've said I've told the story in the pod before but I go to like P town every summer with the baby and like Eli's family and the only gays that pay attention to the baby when we go there are like the black and Latino gaze.

Interesting. They're like enthusiastic and interesting, because they grew up in probably like non-traditional, like broken, but warm big families, whereas some of the uppity rich white gaze grew up probably in these like very coragel, I see. Right. They like hate theiragel IC. Right. They like hate their pants.

Yeah, yeah. And other people on children. I broadly, I mean, am against surrogacy in the same way I'm against all sorts of like artificial fertility. Yeah, I look if you really had to measure especially to see, obviously adoption is really complicated, but like with their being as many orphans as there are, it's hard to make the case ethically that you should.

You should. Yeah, but I understand that it's really difficult to adopt first of all, and second of all, yeah, it has its own self-prop. You guys find like a FagHag in your social milieu that will raise a child with you in like a, a long house. Well, what I was gonna say was the only way

in which I think it's even conceivably permissible is if you have a surrogate that you have like a personal relationship with. If someone is gonna really do you like the solid of farming out their body to give you a baby and then should they want to have some kind of relationship with the baby than that is kind of sanctioned for. Yeah. In your new family. But definitely just like hiring like some like Guatemalan woman to like give you a womb is definitely wrong. A Korean or a Brazilian. Is that where people get? What's the braontess? Oh yeah. Is that where people get? Well, it's what Broncos.

Oh, yeah. Which by the way, it's funny because Broncos also is like so, like family oriented. He's so family friendly. Yeah. We were just talking about Sir, you see what Broncos I forgot. And he's like, I'm like a punk, wik and Satanist from the Bay area. He's actually just like a nice family man and waiting.

Yeah, it's tough if you're gay guys and you want to have a family. I think you should Try to adopt yeah, because you're already living in sentence so you have to counteract by doing some good deeds And if that's really not an option for you for whatever reason, then you need to cultivate a relationship with a biological woman who wants to do you in favor. Yeah. And also, I'm a huge fag hag and bohemian lay about, so I don't have that instinctual disgust response to the idea of gays and lesbians having kids. No, no, no, that's yeah.

It doesn't really bother me, but I mean for the right gay guy, I'm up for one. Yeah, there you go. Send me your picks and you know which one of you wants to inseminate me and we can work something out. I mean like if you and I had a baby because the guy, that'd be interesting. Yeah, he just has to be the sperm donor. Yeah. Not the other guy.

Yeah. But maybe, I don't know. Anyway. Next question. Also congrats on your age gap relationship and like losing my voice. Hey ladies, I quit drinking about a year ago and at the start I always joke that my early sobriety was full of cake and rage.

The sugar cravings of level off, which is great. I lost weight and my skin is glowing. A lot of positive benefits. However, the rage is still there. So I just wanted to ask you both how you personally deal with anger. Okay, love you both, love this show, and have a happy, happy holiday. Bye! love the show and have a happy, happy holiday. Bye! And how do you deal with anger and rage? You ship host? Yeah. I take it out on the TL, but I've been more to have, I've tried to develop some mindfulness around like,

when I am really just trying to stir some shit up because I'm angry or bored or like, have issue with something that has some personal issues that I then like cast out into like, the sea of like a hateful audience. Like, yeah. Like offer yourself up for judgment. Yeah, so I try to do that last.

Yeah, I mean, girl, you wild for thinking that you would get sober and the rage would go away. The reason you were drunk in the first place is because you were full of rage. Yeah. For me, I have a drink. I mean, you should have a drink to take that. Well, sometimes the, I would say, I'm not a very angry person in general. That's not one of the sinful passions that I struggle with quite so much, but what are

your sinful passions that I struggle with quite so much, but what are your sinful passions? Mmm. Mal and Kali, despondency, like sloth. Sloth, yeah. You know, um, but somewhere, yeah, I do have rage that probably is like sublimated

and then emerges in different ways. But the drinking makes me way more volatile, which is when I'm more prone to having angry outbursts. I guess I think if I were to stop drinking, I wouldn't have as many. And you would kind of like balance out, but it sounds like you're correct in the underlying cause of her self-medicating to begin. Well, again, that to me is like the whole goal, the point of AA that you enter into this program, this network, to have a support system for staying clean and sober, and then the real work begins. Like it doesn't end there.

Like you have to figure out, I mean, I guess my advice would be to identify your triggers, like what makes you chimp out? Yeah. Why are you so rageful? Because a lot of time and rage is of, I also, I don't wanna be an annoying clarifier and make a semantic argument, but to me there's a big distinction between anger and rage.

Like anger is righteous, but warranted. That's another good season, sauntag line, anger is an underrated emotion. I think not enough people are actually angry and too many people are Rageful. Well, what's the difference? Like I think rage is a really like Sinister and directionless emotion. It's like a corrosive spirituality. Yeah, that's like ostensibly targeted at others, but is really anger yourself. A kind of like sublimated anger at your own impotence and ineffectuality,

because you wouldn't be so mad at others if your room was clean or whatever. Yeah, if you tried making your bed, Jordan Peters and style, it will oftentimes also the things that we find like unbearable and offensive in others are things that we just can't stand on ourselves. Yeah, of course. And that's that to me is the downside of something like A.A. is that a lot of people enter into it and become suddenly these peace loving handholding, like Kumbaya, like I love everyone. What rage?

Yeah, like who pay lip service to like the covenant of man or whatever, but are secretly actually still very spiteful and competitive and that sort of thing. Well, then they're, yeah, I mean, really working the steps, I think, is basically like a lifelong process. And I'm not sure which step, I think it's the fifth one after you do the searching in mirror this is searching and fearless moral inventory and You You identify your character defects. Yeah, the step after that is to ask

God or your higher power to remove them and I think a lot of people just kind of blow through that. They like identify their defects and then they like ask God to remove them, but they don't actually like I think that that step is actually way harder than a lot of people think it is. Yeah, because it is easy. It's also like a proxy like a circuit activity to like all of us are self-aware and articulate enough to say what our flaws are. Some of us, yeah. Well, many of us, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, talking endlessly about them, but like, choose to do nothing. Well, most, yeah, most people basically everyone doesn't want to change, really. Right. Yeah. That's like very hard.

We're very attached to our character defects because... So I think like get part of it is like identifying what makes you chimp, but then also in that like decoupling your anger from your rage. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like what is legitimate grievance Versus like subconscious like jealousy envy competition yeah rivalery whatever that string of words and that boils down Yeah to a kind of like Vigilance and mindfulness about your own motivations Which good luck. Hi ladies. I have a question about gift giving, especially when it comes to love ones or intimate partners. I'm going on six years of marriage and I found myself

like kind of running out of ideas or Christmas gifts I'm also really busy this year Trying to tell how much time to think about it and I ended up freaking out and buying my partner Air pods and I feel kind of weird about it um And so I guess my question is how do you cope with the guilt of not finding the perfect gift for someone? And what should I do differently next year? Thank you.

See you soon. Oh my God, girl, I could go on and on and on. I know, because you give giving a Zana's love language. As some of y'all may know. No, it's a thought that counts. Yeah. And people can literally feel even when you give a good or expensive gift,

if it's like perfunctory and not thoughtful. Yeah. Because you went to the shitty dad store at the airport and got like the priciest thing. And that's worse than no gifts at all, really. Yeah. I think like, and. Yeah, I think. And I mean, the only people I really get gifts for, honestly, are you and Maddie.

That's sweet, because I know that's y'all's love language. And so I kind of put effort into getting you guys specifically gifts, and then other people all buy gifts for if like it really strikes me like if I really see something that someone would want yeah um but I don't do gift giving kind of broadly especially enough for Matt I'm kind of like if you want what you need a present for if you want man yeah I mean my thing is like you can't and our funds are a nice gift don't they're a thing is like, you can't wait. And every once in a while, they're a nice gift. They're a nice gift and just like, don't wait until the last minute.

So I was like, my life philosophy is like, when I'm somewhere new or different, I just like always keep an eye out for stuff that might be intriguing to other people and like, cop immediately without a truck out. Yeah. And yeah, just keep your loved ones in mind. I've got you to get me a perfume that I've been coveting for a long time. I'm very pleased about.

And I got me some of the hands on some nice lotions that are very soothing. But, yeah, just like, it's not so. It's hard for men also. It is really hard to hard to go to buy a man a gift. It's like really I think it's so easy I always just get the clothes and they're so flattered because they don't know how to dress themselves and it's like that question of like You know when girls agonize because they meet a guy they like but he kind of dresses in a way that gives them the Ick or whatever I think that's a great thing if you can go into Man. Yeah, who's great in every other way?

Like you should embrace that because you can just like, dress him to your specifications. A lot of my boyfriends, dress in a very uniform way. Yeah, and are not so, I mean, Dan loved, like, buttoned down short sleeve shirts. So once I bought him like a bunch of, like, different styles of that shirt.

But for some, like, with with my dad I always struggled because um parents are hard in general. Parents are hard in general but my dad especially I remember I definitely have bought him like a golf I like what is my dad like he likes golf you know and I think like men and gentlemen. My dad here's a copy of Steve sailors noticing he's a golfer too. I feel like men obviously have intense interests but are hard. Kind of. That's the hardest thing.

It's like all of my boyfriend's because their old capricorns are like technicians in one way or another. And I can't buy specialized equipment. At some nice cable. Just buy one cable and regift it to another boyfriend because it could be used for a variety of media. My advice basically would be just not to trip something,

but you don't have to feel guilt. Yeah, if you did your part. You got to know some time. Yeah. Next question. Fuck, I don't know which one, it wasn't this one. Hi, Anna and Dasha. My husband and I have always agreed that when I turn 30,

we'll start to have kids and I can quit my job to stay home and take care of them. In 27 now, I'm working a girl-bossy, high-paying job that has been waking up, come clean, see me every morning. My question for you is, should my wife it'll be my ovulation schedule and have some hidden raw MAP fertility to put me out of my misery early. Or say, just take it out and make some money for three years knowing that all eventually get what I want anyway. Would love to hear your thoughts.

Have a gorgeous and blessed holiday season. See you in hell. Wait, what's the question? Should she lie to her husband about her ovulation schedule? So she doesn't have to get pregnant for the time being? No, so she can get pregnant. Oh, so she, okay. And quite her job early.

Three years early than they had prior, previously agreed upon. Oh, well then that answers her question, because she wants to have kids. If she was, I was confused, I thought she wanted to lie to postpone. No, no, she says her job makes her contemplate suicide and she wants to study it. Okay. But she's pragmatically, which is not typically my specialty. If she is making a lot of money, might be good to accrue some prior to getting pregnant. If you are going to be a stay at home, what about that?

I think that you have to think about this in a very pragmatic fashion and see if you can get like a tight maternity leave or severance package. So you have to get your ducks in a row. But as far as like their personal dynamic is concerned, I don't think that he's gonna hair split with her, whether she gets pregnant at 27 or 30, I think he probably just gave her that number also out of respect for her.

Yeah, and I think yeah, I just, you know, it's also not a lot of people try to get pregnant. It takes people while sometimes to get pregnant He probably thinks you like your career Because he's a dumb man I would just have sex when you feel like it and yeah, you're in a marital union Yeah, you've already won like let him hit it raw all the time It's like when they approach you for a book deal

because they know that you have already like a built-in loyal audience and that's what book publishers are really looking for. Like you already have the man, you already have the job, like no sweat. And if you want to have the kid, I'd say just hit it raw and let Jesus take the wheel, you know. And if you get pregnant for your agreed upon then you'll figure it out. That can happen. Yeah.

A portion. This is like, no, it lost track. Let's try that one, but. Hey girls, so I'm like a gay guy from, you know, I just graduated college. My boyfriend is like about to graduated college. My boyfriend is about to graduate college, but the problem is that he has an insane pet bird who's gonna live to like 45 years old, and it's like six.

And I love my boyfriend a lot, but I don't know if I can convince him to part ways with this bird. It's an African graded so it like, you know, it'll say like the end word back at him and stuff, you know. So it's kind of funny, but it's also very annoying to have like a dirty bird, just like, it's a hot full of time.

So let me know what you guys would do. I love the pod bite. Wait, you have an African gray? His boyfriend. I want an African Great can you convince your boyfriend to give me can take that I mean you're racist pair yeah wait you have a bird that's in the end It should be the third mic on our

The bird is like a man trust mold bug as a fragger That does I'm funny. I can see how I get I don't like birds I'm kind of low key afraid of them. They're scary. They're dinosaurs. Yeah, they're frightening. This is why I can't get behind any dinosaur truthers. I apologize to our gay best friend, Dan Algrado. Well, because like birds literally are dinosaurs. There's the descendants of dinosaurs. Okay, well, that doesn't make any sense. They're like, they're like,

they're like, stale down, they're like, scale down. They're miniature dinos. I'm with Dan here. I think birds are weird, but like, if birds are dinosaurs, then what happened to my daughter? They're weird and hateful. They code for Jewish. Squawking.

I want to teach the African Grey to say you are Jewish. Yeah. You are Jewish. You are Jewish. You are Jewish. You are Jewish. You are Jewish. You are Jewish. You are Jewish. You are Jewish.

It is crazy how birds can do that. And I can only be the high IQ ones. It's not an IQ thing. No, I know. No way. It is because parrots are like the highest IQ birds. They're like the gorillas of birds. I thought crows were smarter, but they don't have the same

like vocal, maybe. Yeah. But crows can like remember faces and have like enemies. Yeah, they code for Armenian crows. Because they're like oily and black and like shiny things. And crows are like gang stalkers. They'll like, they'll really make your life hell. You know what birds, I really hate myself

when I have negative emotions toward innocent creatures that like have done nothing wrong and are just like merely existing. I hate, hate, hate, hate. Canada geese. Why? Cause they're just like everywhere. They've been like a fixture of my youth because they were everywhere in New Jersey. There's like a

serious population problem with them and they're always like up on people's like lawns. Yeah. Like shitting everywhere. They're very aggressive and angry. They're not very cute. No, yeah. I kind of just want to ring their nicks. I haven't encountered many of them myself, but don't find them charming at all. No, they're awful. Mmm. That's like a type of animal that I don't want to say hate, but strongly dislike. Fair.

Yeah, I, not a fan of birds. My, here's my evil Evil evil Dasha advice. They're gonna tell them to poison the bird That did occur to me that I that was my first that was like kill the bird a nice and close you can kill the bird But the thing about birds they can fly You can just like, I mean, yeah, like the bird flew away. What have like, maybe the bird wants to fly away too. You don't win, win. I don't know. Sounds like his boyfriend's way attached to the bird. To get away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But yeah, birds are gross. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. But yeah, birds are gross. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be.

They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn't be. They shouldn, damn. 45 years seems low. I thought those things lived until they were like a hundred. Yeah. They like outlive you.

And it could, I mean, if it can't, you know, fare for itself out there in a while. It's literally like an exotic bird from the African subcontent. Well, it shouldn't be domesticated anyway. You know, if he had any type of exotic pat, I know, I'd say we got to the set of three. And if it comes back, then maybe you got to learn to love the bird. But give the bird a shot. Give the bird a chance to make, to, to flee the nest. It's a great idea.

That's my advice. The bird is too smart and doesn't budge. I know, it's the same. It's the same. It knows it has a good thing. The bird can be flying around saying the unword. It could be the next viral daily video on your close.

Racist bird. Good for you. OK, I'm going to try this one. Yeah. Hi, Gowls. I love you both very much. I just found out I was pregnant this morning, which, yeah, I figured, would be interesting to call in because I don't, you have any others like this. And if they do God's Day. And partner and I are like super in love. We both want kids.

We both want to get married in the future. We're both working with cities jobs ever and are in super in debt. I like panic schedule the abortion this morning. This is for like a week from now and now I have a week to sit here with all those thoughts in my mind, knowing that eventually we do want this, but that it's happening now, and I have no idea what to do. I basically so torn across all the things. I figured it'd be way more fun for you guys to hear me apart than myself. Yeah, I probably just killed myself instead.

I love you both, Mary Christmas. Bye. I was having such a good time. Do you got to keep the baby? No, mood is over. Sorry. Um, I don't know. I don't know.

Time is of the essence. I can't tell anyone's got it on the baby, but my hunch is you should keep the baby. You got to keep the baby. And it's a great blessing and if you will regret it, if you don't, especially if you're with someone that you are in love with and one have a baby with. Yeah, and I just want to say that having a baby is a lot cheaper than you think it will be. It's very manageable. It's very doable on a low budget. I mean, it's a very like pick your own adventure. Like if you want to get the most expensive clothes

and toys and like crap, you can. Or you can't, because you're poor. No, it's pretty good. But should you be in that position, you could really knock yourself out, but you don't have to like all babies need to love and some calories. I mean it's yeah people I got into it with um after your pre-press debate with that guy Ben

Berge, because he was at the after party and said that because you made some you made a remark about us living in a basically like an anti-natalist culture. Yeah. And he was saying, you know, he was taking this very like Mark'soid kind of argument that we aren't in an anti-natalist culture. It's that people don't have the means. They keep saying that these leftists are reprodu. Yeah, and it's, but I think that that's clearly not true. I mean, I actually believe her that she and her boyfriend have like, she's doing a lot of work. No, that's the more of the work that she's doing. And like, many such cases, but many, like, poor countries that don't have anti-natalist sentiments because they're Catholic, have tons of kids

and are poor as shit. Yeah, and you also have to weigh what your personal situation is. If you have the resources, i.e. grandparents, who will be willing to pick up the slack. Yeah, it's never. Yeah. What, like, the community around you is like that sort of thing. God, I sound like in such an AOC. Unless you're, you know, two affluent gay guys, there's never a perfect. Yeah, baby.

So true. Unless you're literally, yeah, literally,'s like, do we wanna come back in? We're gonna pay a woman to have a baby on your exact, specified timeframe. Yeah. Then you most people just, I mean, my parents were broke as shit. I know.

My parents had no money. And then moved to a whole new country. I know I know the Yeah, and they and I turn out so good Yeah, like you can make it work. I think if you really I Don't know she sounds towards I really think that if you love each other and you have a family, you will never regret having a baby. I don't wanna say you will never regret having a baby period because in many cases you will,

but in her situation, it sounds like she wouldn't. Or there will be regrettable things as well. Yeah, there's gonna be very tough, exhausting frustrating things down the line for anybody, but I don't know. I think that you should probably go for it. I hate saying that. Why?

Because I don't like to put the boot on anyone's neck as Victor Tours. Sure. Well, no, we're not, you know, tired. But I will say, if this bitch wants to reach out to me privately, I can tell her some shit that I'm not at liberty to say on this podcast. Okay. Cause there are many haters and watch dogs.

Of course. So. Yeah. Hopefully you're getting our message in time. Yes. I know. I was like, this is honestly my first thought was so fucking dark and sinister. Cause I was like, fuck, I have I was like this is honestly my first thought was so fucking dark and sinister because I was like fuck

I have to edit this like tomorrow to make sure that this girl here is our message and doesn't get the abortion um I might have it was either her another caller that called in that was pregnant who I cuz you can text via the Always like text dead Girl it was a keep it So maybe I've already told her. Okay, cool. But maybe she must be, it must be her. No, there was another girl who was like also, um, maybe,

where maybe her, I forgot, I forgot what the details were, but, um, yeah, I think you should keep it easy for me to say as like a child as person who's like, it was all the time. It was like, I'm really, really. I mean, I think you should keep it easy. Mine could be easier. That's like my default mode if you can. Yeah.

You guys can make it work. Yeah. And I mean, it sounds like she hit me up for real. Head her up. Yeah. And I mean, it sounds like she hit me up for real. Head her up. Yeah. Hi. So my boyfriend and I have been dating for just over three years. And he has a single mom and he's an only child.

So he's always had a pretty close relationship with his mom, and I just recently found out from him that he slept in the same bed as his mom every single night until he was 14 or 15 years old, which is really crazy to me, but he insists that it felt really normal and that there's nothing weird about it. But I've kind of felt weird ever since he told me that. So I want to know what you think. Is it a big deal? Should it be a big deal to me or not? I mean you tell me sister, is it a big deal to you?

Like, sounds like it is. What's he like otherwise? What's the mom like otherwise? Is the real, is the real cute I think. Yeah, tough. That's weird. It's definitely weird, but it's not unheard of. Yeah. I mean, I struggle because I'm so, like, kind of estranged and orphan-coded with anyone that's even, like, kind of close with their family. I'm like, oh, you talk to your mom and a mom.

Oh my God, that's a pretty weird dude. So for me, I mean, that would be, I wouldn't, it's as big of a deal as you want to make it out to be. He doesn't sleep in the same bed with her now. So you can choose to get over it. Sounds like there's probably other dynamic for all those nights that I wasn't staying with you. I was like staying with my mom. Yeah, sounds like there's probably some other dynamic stuff.

Probably I'd have to get it. Yeah, I think we need more data. But I don't think you have to make a big deal But you probably should have break up with him over this tidbit of information because it'll ruin his life and make him spiral and Confirm for him that he's like a deeply damaged and traumatized individual. Yeah Like really losing my voice what happened because I've been like drinking for the past week tough time I get horrible. Yeah, yeah, Because there's like a party every night. Yeah, there's a fix.

And it's profitable to... Well, Bronters, I think he said this to me off the pod, but part of being self-medicating with alcohol as a bipolar person is that the hangovers really do keep the mania at bay. Yeah, I know. I think that's like why I drink too, because it gives me something to like manage.

Exactly. And like, yeah, you have like anxiety when you're hungover, but sometimes it really takes the edge off to be a little like, retarded and depleted. Yeah, and there's like that whole like common coin that you should be like, really compassionate and kind to yourself and stop like self hating. But like when taken to the extreme, that's also bad.

Because you're like, I'm hungover got another day. I'll be kind to myself insane, but I'm to do self care again. Like I'm going to do like the mask with a bomb like three days in a row. Like it's going to like roll. like three days in a row. It's gonna like roll. Just gonna get in the bath. Gonna be kind of myself and have another drink.

What would Matthew Perry do? Kind of mean. Sorry, I need to stop bringing that up. Anyway, that's disturbing and problematic, but it's probably fine. It could be worse. It could be worse. At least you have a boyfriend. Yeah. At least you have a boyfriend. Yeah, and I'd say if there aren't other like kind of issues with the mommy. I mean, kind of just let it go.

If he got out of that dynamic relatively unscathed, he's a keeper. Yeah. Amen. He's like the opposite of those like feral dog people I've been reading about. Whose parents were like alcoholics and drug addicts and made them sleep in a shed. He's, yeah, smothered. Mm-hmm. Okay, so basically I was friends with this couple

for the past two years. They broke up in May and I started getting weekly dinners with a girlfriend who talked to me in detail about the breakup. We weren't very good friends but I ended up like helping her move out of their shared house. But then since then we haven't really talked much. And then in August I started hanging out with a boyfriend one-on-one like every week getting high and stuff and I am positively told him that I had feelings for him which he like immediately said he returned those healing and we had like amazing sexual chemistry and had literally just a one-week twist during which he said some like quite serious things that are featured together before he broke it off and got back together with the girlfriend

who he was already kind of seeing when I interacted. So my problem is one, I'm very different with all of their friends, including the boyfriend best friend. So I think it's been seen in the round and I need to do something to make this woman no longer hate me even though I literally did one of the worst possible things to her. And to I can't go over this guy because I had amazing sexual chemistry with him and that is an account for me and also he's quite rich so that makes it all difficult. Thanks.

I don't know if he made me rich with those. I kind of think the second part is worse than the first part because it's not like she was your best friend and you betrayed her. It was like a girl that you grew close with because you were helping her out in a moment of need. Yeah. But one one thing I'm always suspective people who, what? This very cynical of me, yeah, who like makes hurt themselves and, yeah, who makes themselves very helpful in moments of crisis.

Yeah, me too. That's true. Someone has to do it. Mm-hmm. I guess. And not knowing you, you sound a little, not like the best person. But you might be, you know, we all make mistakes and stuff. Yeah, this seems like a mistake that you can learn from and move on from.

You definitely should not. Well, also super annoying of them to break up and get back together. It's very normal. It is, but it always is. I mean, people break up and then- And it's also very normal that he was going through like an intense moment of like freefall and reciprocated his feelings. But was already seeing the experience that I experienced about a typical male behavior I find.

Yeah. He seems kind of the most in the wrong. I wouldn't really expect this woman to get over her feelings of contempt for you, but they're not entirely your fault. But also not entirely unwarranted, so maybe you just have to live with them. Yeah. Um, yeah, it sounds like you might be the biggest impediment sort of to repairing this Relationship I just wouldn't get my one piece of advice is I wouldn't get into one of those dynamics where he's like playing you both in your Commiserating over what an asshole he is I

Doesn't sound like that because that sounds like that could happen down the line Sounds toxic all around sounds like a weird friend group And y'all could actually do with some better boundaries perhaps. I mean, cohabitating, breaking up, getting back together. I understand, yeah, the spiral of like intense feelings and stuff, but it sounds very like insatius. I mean, he also is truly the most in the wrong here because he gave you false promises

and made certain comments about your future life together. Yeah. Which is the worst. Yeah. That's addict behavior. Yeah. Y'all sound like you have a lot of issues. Have you guys thought of becoming a lesbian?

Yeah, that's the only way to make these right. Is you have dept to hurt? You have to become polyamorous. She's calling back next love line. I mean, we're living in like a weird, shared punk house. I mean, good luck with all that. I don't know. Just be friendly, nice and cordial.

Yeah, best. Yeah. Best you can do, I guess. Best of luck. Hi, my Eve. So I wanted to call because I am all about going on natural with my body here. But my boyfriend is really obsessed with

when I grow up my armpits, my armpit hair, and he wants my pussy to be like perfect, be shaved. So I'm just trying to decide what I should do. So I only make myself happy, what I should do to make myself happy but also make it happy too. So I would be very, very appreciate it. Love you guys. That's interesting.

It's practical. I like the way the sky thinks. He likes the armpit hair. Yeah, because he's like open-minded or whatever, but he doesn't like the pussy hair for like sensory reasons, obviously. It's unusual. Typically, if men have like a hard line on body hair, that includes theventional days. Yeah. Okay. It sounds like you guys could find a compromise for me. Landing strip.

Yeah. And the armpit hair. It seems, I have to say it seems weird having armpit hair, but no pussy hair. Yeah. Like that would make me go crazy on an OCD level. It would be like conceptually wrong. Well I had a... I am...

Although I have some French sensibilities and do not... am far from meticulous about shaving my underarms. And my pussy. my underarms and my both feet. But I had a very formative moment as a teenager when I was very obsessed with the vice series shop by Kern. That was kind of like a mini series or Richard Kern photographed these models and he made a remark about how much he liked. He's gonna be so happy that we mentioned him

on the podcast. I've told him this before actually, but the aesthetic symmetry of armpit hair and like not like a crazy bush, but some like triangle. Like that there was like the trinity of those things. It's like a satanic pentagon. Yeah.

But that always felt really kind of sexy and true to me. I, if I was a man who had a real hard line about my body hair, that would be hard for me. Yeah, it would be all putting in weird. Especially more so the underarms than... Yeah, I've not met men who talk a big game but ultimately don't care. Yeah. And if they do, they get... Yeah.

I've never met anybody who has like a strict hard thine against body hair. The thing is like it's very interesting because I've never had sex with a zoomer. Yeah. I hope I never will. I find that like Gen X and geriatric millennial men are very into a clean shaved pussy because that's what they were reared on and all the porno's they watched.

Mm. Yes, but I also find it's like, it met, it met with like preference for the bush, are usually like a vocal, they're like male pick me, it's basically bush are usually like vocal. They're like male pick me, but it's like, yeah, they're like very vocal about it. Yeah. In a way that's also like annoying.

Yeah. And if similarly if I was having a relation with someone who had a hard line in the other direction where they really wanted me to have like a bush, I would also have an issue with that because I'm a feminist. Well let's say I tried to call you, yeah, what to do period. Because my body is like you should try being a better person. Oh, I would.

But I would, what I do to overshare, I guess, is I have like a wax. I wax. Wait, this isn't oversharing. You've talked about your waxing saga many a time. Yeah, but in the interim periods, I don't, I just let my body grow out. Yeah. And so, we have to get the wax through. Exactly. So it's like, yeah, it's like

cyclical. And so if you are my boyfriend, you can get the nice wax pussy every four weeks. And then as a tree, and then there's like periods of regrowth and then right before I'm waxed I'm kind of at like a max pheromone herriness and you have to just kind of be fine with all of that. Yeah you got a roll with it and I've that would be my advice to your boyfriend is to just like listen to this episode. Yeah. But like, yeah, let your body hurt, do what it will. While being compromising enough to give him what he wants some of the time. Most people are kind of like centrist when it comes to female body hair.

Like, as long as it's not like, normally an excessive, it's probably fine. Yeah, don't go nuts. Like have some tasteful armpit hair, which it seems like you enjoy it anyway. Remember in like 2016 there was like a trend of Instagram models with like really thick uniforms? Yeah. That really came when. And I saw one of them recently in like a kind of more mass market campaign and she had gotten rid of the Unibrow because it was clearly like a bit that she was doing for a tens of months. But yeah, you can't be shaving your pussy every day. That's ridiculous.

Yeah, no. And also by the way, the wax is a good compromise. The wax is a good compromise because another thing I learned the hard way is that you can get almost anything lasered but you're posse because it will grow back because it's like a hormonal androgenic area or whatever. Interesting. So it goes to get their posse laser. They do but I don't think it's even worth the money because it will inevitably grow back. But I don't think it's even worth the money because it will inevitably grow back. But maybe finer and more... Yeah, but it's still there. Yeah, yeah.

It's not worth that. And you have to keep sapping. Whereas getting your legs laser is the greatest gift God has ever bestowed upon us and makes me a real technicrat. Maybe that's what I'll do in the new year. I was finally commit, because I do shave my legs, because I do find the leg hurt to be like,

unsightly and not like, because I feel particularly warm. Like, yeah. I have, I do have the aesthetic very, totally from non-political reference for some underarm hair. Yeah. But I also get it waxed periodically.

I think it's, and I see the right kind of girl for it. Well, also if I'm wearing a sleeveless top all shave, because I'm not trying to be like, make a spectacle out of my life. Yeah, I'm just, but most of the time I'm not wearing tank tops, especially in the winter, and I'm, yeah, like, having underarm hair or whatever. The winter is a really great time to be a woman because you can kind of let it all hang out. Well, I've really been letting my body in that open.

And I've been more misandristic than ever. And I was actually wondering the other day, if I had something to do with me, like, completely neglecting to manage my body. I'm fully like dorkin' mode, like the long-distance. Yeah, it's like the chicken or the egg. Yeah, the bigger my bush gets the more I hate that. Like are you not managing your body hair

because you're a messandra, or you a messandra because you're not managing your body hair. I think if I got a wax, I'd be. Can you imagine if somebody had gotten Andrea dorkinin a laser package? Ha ha ha! She would have been a changed woman. And I bet...

And I'm gonna do it soon. If I got a wax, I'd be back on my pic-me-shit. Ha ha ha ha! I, um, yeah, so I'm mostly gay, but um, my girlfriend and I, uh, like, you know, growled as a friend who did, we like, drank too much and we had sex and like, I, she's pregnant now. Um, should we keep the baby? I kind of want to. I mean, I'm very too. And, you know, like, I'm up to some things but not much. And I think we could have a beautiful family. Yeah, some money. Why not, right? What do you guys think? She's, she's in the volume too, but she seems, you know, down. Thank you, but This is the future. This is the part you're in the perfect situation. I think the dream

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potentially depriving her from having, ever having a more normative style family arrangement, but the damage is done. And you got to go through that. He'll just babysit while she was like cavorting around on the weekends. I mean, sounds like you guys are curious. Questions like this make me wish I had a more developed stance on whether abortion is a good or bad thing. Well, I have, yeah, I have a hard, hard line. Elped stance on whether abortion is a good or a bad thing.

Well, I have, yeah, I have a hard, hard line. Okay. More or less, you know. I'll talk to you if you get pregnant by a gay guy, any gay guy, you're keeping it. That was, I keep, I'm pretty bad at anyone, I'm keeping it. I mean, I don't have sex with people that I wouldn't want to potentially procrate with

as a rule. So. of people that I wouldn't want to potentially procrate with as a rule. So I don't have sex. So I'm an in-sale. The situation is really dire. You've heard it here, folks. But yeah, gay guy, for sure, is kind of an ideal in some ways, definitely, a non-conventional kind of family. So, keep or or keep. They both sound like they... You get keep, but have the convo with her.

I think if you're both ambivalent, that's like, that's a keep. Too wrong to make her right. Well, ambivalent means you don't, you know, you don't feel strongly either way. They're each waiting for the other one to make a decision. Yeah. And it sounds like they got a great family. Hey guys, I want to talk in American accent to disguise my identity. So basically, I have a really long labia and it's kind of getting to me or it's been getting to me over the years.

I've never had a problem getting sex or having men come back for seconds or third. But I have a really bad love life and the men that I fall in love with don't ever love me back and it could be because of that. Now I'm really, really fucking dirt poor, like so fucking poor you have no idea. I really want to get, maybe a plastic, I was thinking of getting it done in Eastern Europe. I'm within Europe, so that would work out. But the only way I could afford that is to maybe go in a couple of dates with sugar daddy or something, get some money, if I don't get sex granted. But everyone around me is telling me to just love myself, so that the right men will come along. But I know that you guys will cut through that bullshit.

So could you please tell me whether you think it's worth working really hard to get this money, to get this surgery? Or should I just accept myself? All right, thank you guys. Let's Google how much a labia plastic costs. You're on it. Oh, she whipped it. I was exactly what I was talking about.

Like, what's the damage? Well, okay, and then, okay, so however much, how much does it cost? Or so you want. So let's punch the numbers for this girl. Okay, so the price really varies by city and state in America. It's a pretty wide range, 2500 to 6000. Okay, but that's yeah, but that's so 6000 is like top dollar. Terrier, yes. And you're going to want to pay top dollar. I think they're pussy shaved off. I think the Eastern Euro Labio Plasty sounds

It'll advised They do it at like a Russian orphan Russian orphan does it Fried up like big I cried up like big. Also, I want to know how long is too long like must be pretty long. Yeah, how long is that thing hanging? I know a girl who got a labia class. Well, you can probably can't say well. No, I don't even remember her name. We worked at a it was in high school We worked at frozen yogurt shop together. She's my coworker and she was really excited about the Slavia Plastic and was very happy with that.

Interesting. Well, when I was researching my essay for Richardson Mag, I read a bunch of old Richardson Mags and there is an article from Julia Fox in it about how she got a labia philosophy. Yeah, it was actually a well written. She's a great writer. She has a book out. Yeah, we should maybe. I think your romantic troubles are not all related to well, not at all related. I don't think they're strictly due to the length of your labia, of your roast beef, chopped cheese, and sloppy pussy. But rather that you probably have like insecurity. I know hangups in body dysmorphia about your pussy. So I would recommend getting the labia plastic to give yourself like maybe the piece of mind to be more confident and self-assured partner.

And that it won't be your perfect fancy. But having your perfect pussy will make you a more confident and self-assured partner. Because you could probably find something else that's wrong. She's like, some nipples are too big. What if some, I mean mean I don't know. I'm willing to believe I'm an optimist I'm willing to believe that there's an easy fit there could be an easy fix for someone you know. What are the risks of labia plastic probably like

we'll also have a lot of bleeding death. Yeah but I bet I mean it seems like a parallel straight forward procedure actually Like yeah, I'm like you're with like I de-aid it now. It seems like an easy snip Unless you're with like yeah, the doctor's like drunk and chops your lid off on Where she's turning Unless you're with like yeah the dogs are like drunk and chops your lid off on the accident or something Which is Which is Which in eastern Europe will hide in the risks And I think you should yeah love yourself I don't think you should I think you should, yeah, love yourself. I don't think you should, I think it will ultimately be worse for yourself as

steam for you to process it yourself to raise the money for your LABIA plastic. But how else is she going to be like? That sounds like a slippery stuff. I think it was just something that you should kind of bank on down the line. It's an investment. Yeah, LABIA plastic before 2025, which means I have to get a real job and make money. bank on down the line. It's an investment. It's an investment.

Yeah, a labia class TV. We're at 2025, which means I have to get a real job and make money. If something you should maybe consider investing and getting done well at some point and prioritize becoming financially solvent enough for this procedure. But it's not like a facelift or a BBL which costs like tens of thousands of dollars. Yeah. It seems you can do this girl. Can I just say something nice?

Yeah. She has a very sexy feminine voice. Sounds hot. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure. I don't think any manner rejecting her because of her labia. No. I don't think any manner rejecting her because of her labia. No, but who knows, maybe the situation's worse than we even imagined.

But yeah, to echo the sentiments of the people in your life, like you probably will, you could find someone that will love you the way. Have you shown them your pussy? Yeah. Yeah. They should find a guy who's a pet. Send us a pic of weird sexual fetish.

It just didn't really into long lavia. There's gotta be a few of those out there. And they're all like deranged basement peaks. I mean, at the end of the day, it's like her issue with it, I think, is gonna be the bigger impediment to the kind of lasting intimacy that she. Yeah, but that's always like many such cases. Yeah. It's always like your issue with the specific thing

that's like probably mostly in your head. Maybe I've seen some, I don't know. Some real blown out pussy. Could be real blown out, but, um, yeah, like I said something to a baby it'll blow that something to invest in something to strive for and not something to like rush into or make any kind of like uh traumatizing life choices to Hurry the process Okay, send us a pick of your pussy. Yeah in a non-proverted horny way. Yeah Purely clinical and it flash on that it's a problem. We will personally

Lawns your fun me The red scare leave you a plastic foundation on me. The Red Square Lebioplasti foundation. We're taking on the Roasty epidemic. I mean, you were saying that like the one cause that you would contribute to your fish chulas. This is like the next best thing. I wasn't saying that. I said donkey saying true, right? But I did bring up the fish chas, which I think is an issue. Okay, last question. Well, we didn't do the Palestinian. Oh, oh.

Hi, Anna and Dasha, Merry Christmas. I have two questions I really need to run by and by. First, Anna, please about selfie is being an evil way to interact with your own image has been spiraling. And now I've archived my entire Instagram. It felt freeing initially, however, I'm 27 single and it wasn't for a husband, so I'm worried that now I've taken myself out of the Instagram dating pool, I've essentially Instagram functions as a dating app, so I was wondering if she felt that was a good idea or not. And second, do you think it's on the coming two pursue younger men, but say like four or five years younger?

Anyway, thank you and God bless in 2024. Love you. She purged her entire Instagram. Yeah. Because she felt bad about my tea. It's horrible. And now she feels handicapped. I think you're fine posting a selfie here and there. It's like not your fault. But I also think in as much as Instagram is a dating app, which not in my experience but I can see how that

would be conceivably true. I think not having selfies gives you a kind of mystique. Yeah, that is intriguing and kind of sexy definitely. And it kind of gives you an upper hand actually, because the selfie market is oversaturated and then maybe an occasional well placed kind of selfie maybe on the story. I think, yeah, kind of rarefying your image, there is something to that that will actually increase your design ability. If you show people that you have multiple facets to your personality. Yeah, but that you're also hot. Yeah, exactly.

No, I'm not, I'm not like begrudging of individual women of posting selfies unless they do it in a very sinister and nefarious way where they pretended for some like higher moral cause and they just want attention on the internet. Yeah. Like I thought that campaign of women posting photos of themselves at 14 at the height of me too was truly like an abomination evil and more photographic and foreign. I will stand by that.

But well, I posted the photo of me before. I mean, because I'm like wearing fishneds and look like. I look like absolutely. I grow. looking like like a like a like a like absolutely I grow that's like a hundred was it asking for it but people yeah we're posting like kind of like quasi wholesome photos of themselves of working and like like get real. That were like clearly like a sexy and jailbait

and yeah they're like a big deal. My issue with selfies is that whatever your, you think your motivations are the actual function of them is that they make other women jealous and make men angry and irritated and unlike porn which serves a very specific concrete purpose, selfies don't do that. They like prolong the interaction. And again, I don't blame individual people for participating in the economy because it's like a prisoner's dilemma type thing. If everyone else is posting selfies and you don't post a selfie, then you're like invisible.

That's how it works. Let's be real. And it takes a lot of mental fortitude and willpower to like not participate in that. I have a more charitable maybe or not charitable and maybe this is co-op. But I think, I mean, I think it's valid to document yourself. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the stated purpose of selfies that they're like for self-expression or self-promotion or whatever. Well, I also have like a narcissistic attachment

narcissistic attachment to my identity as like an artist. I'm like, I am like a visual artist of some sort. Okay, you can make a case for yourself by saying like literally you're an actress. So therefore you traffic in your image. That's part and parcel of what you do. Yeah, but also I'm a film, also like I, you know, I just happen to, I mean, yeah, I take selfies for totally vain narcissists. Yeah, like we all do.

Stupid as we do. That's the main reason that. But also I'm like the subject that I is most accessible to myself. Yeah, yeah, of course. I understand all that. I'm just saying that. I'm like Cindy Sherman

The economy That we all participate and I do think is like meaningfully more pornographic than porn itself And that's not just selfies like you can extrapolate that even to like posting or Meaming yeah, like I had this thought with like the Gypsy Rose stuff, which really made me sick. It made me nauseated. Yeah, because she's doing it. I know, but her only recourse, she's participating.

It's not like she's trying to, it's not like she's like, she literally posted a selfie. No, I know, but she has all these girls and gays being like, yes, queen, mother, whatever. and she's like a broken and sad person Who had a really fucked up upbringing and did a horrible thing and Now should be left alone to rebuild her life in private that to me is insane. It's so obscene and vulgar It is definitely it's grim

Like it's more bid knowledge. It is. You have to acknowledge that aspect of social media that literally makes all of us more callous and subhuman. And when I say that, I'm not like, again, placing myself above the rabble and being like, I'm actually not like this because I am. Because if you look at my Instagram, it's also like all selfies. Yeah. And it's very like all selfies. Yeah.

And it's very sad when I go through the Instagrams of all of my girlfriends and myself, it's literally selfies. Yeah. Which is crazy. But that's what the app is, you know, I don't know. I don't think that's a normal or healthy way to interact with yourself.

Yeah. And I don't think that that's going to stop us from continuing to do it. But it's something that you have to acknowledge and be honest about. And when people are like, well, what about male selfies? Well, they don't even really figure into the equation. Imagine I'll be taking selfies here unless they're gay.

I mean, but there's also like, people, girls who are really pretty and who I love to see. No, I think that that's also like something that you have to factor into the calculus that some people are more genetically blessed than others. Yeah, and I think that's physically speaking, and that's their main currency. So the way that they move through life is by highlighting that about themselves. But also, I think there's a net positive. And selfies?

If you are an attractive person in the amount of like um I Don't know is that it like joy and Maybe joy is even but no like yeah, like I love to see a picture of a beautiful girl who doesn't Know me too, but I'm if you are a beautiful girl then thank you for Taking for yourself. Yeah for grazing as with're perhaps how I really feel on the you know I agree there's weight, you know a lot of people I don't want to And they are taking them totally like but also redundantly most of the time the girls who are like truly like the 1% of like

Other people are photographing yeah, they're being photographed by other people and therefore they don't need to take as many selfies. Exactly. And yeah, well, and yet they still do, which makes me sad because like you also have like a portfolio because you're a literal model and you don't have to take selfies. Yeah, but it's nice to see someone attractive. And I think also when I say selfie,

I also, I mean it in a metaphoric sense as like just like the general relation we have to ourselves now. Yeah. Which goes back to the whole like sensitive young man thing. I feel like I've never, I feel like I've never seen a selfie of like Kate Moss. But that's a good observation, but she belongs to an,

it's still something for ERA. Or that wasn't the norm, blah, observation, but she belongs to another era. That's why that wasn't the norm blah blah. So her default is being like a private discrete person who's written about in tabloids because she's extremely famous. I just think that when you get into the mode of taking selfies, you develop a different relationship with yourself that's's really weird and bizarre and unhealthy. Did you take selfies on your digital camera prior to the advent of the iPhone? No, it never occurred to me because I always just took photos of other things and people.

It just really didn't occur to me. And one of the things that- That might be slightly also generational. Yeah, it is, I think it is, it is, yeah, for sure. Cause I was sort of a kind of a, I was like on my, I was like online on my space where there's like an impetus to like have, you know, your profile with photographs of yourself But the smartphone had not

Come to prominence yet. Yeah, so I took selfies on like digital cameras and like uploaded them onto the computer But I know I think like to answer this girl's question like you shouldn't beat yourself up if you Feel the urge to take a selfie and post it. Cause that's kind of just, again, the now the default setting of society. But also a good look to have the archive Instagram. I don't have that kind of resolve, but I also don't feel a desire to. I also think it really depends on the person.

Like some people do it kind of like naturally and effortlessly and some people don't. Yes. Some people are, well, I mean, nowadays especially, it's like it's beyond even selfies. The self-documenting, you know, it's like the like zoomers really like as you said, like they interface with the world and this like everything is there constantly documenting themselves and making everything into content. Yeah, but just different even from just like a selfie, from just like a photograph of yourself. It's like you make yourself the subject of... Yes, like content. It's a constant self-narrativeization

and then you wonder why you can't find love because you're colliding against other people who are exactly like you, who pretend to be sensitive young men and sensitive young women, but are actually very desensitized. Yeah. That's what scares me.

To themselves and others, yeah. I think the impulse to take a picture of yourself is like fairly innocent and harmless. Yeah. Yeah, I think so too. I think it's valid. Yeah, and it's like I mean whatever corbei it's existed throughout valid. Yeah, and it's like, I mean, whatever, Corbe, it's existed throughout history. Yeah.

Like, people do self-portrait hair. Exactly. Like, when you're an artist, and when you're specifically a painter, like, the first model you have is yourself. Yeah. You know what I think about. That's related is how many girls have,

like, these, have these email jobs or these Zoom call jobs. And I think if you, especially with working from home, with Zoom now being kind of the main way in which people go to work. So does that, you know? I have found, and maybe I'm more narcissistic than your average person though, I kind of think not, but when I have had jobs where I've had to be on like a Zoom calls all day,

I have found myself like transwixed by my own image because I'm literally looking at it on like a grid Yeah, I mean that's also very perverted in pornographic technology and so I think a lot of people who's Literally eight hours a day or whatever some amount of the day are on like zoom calls And they're usually women because that's who has jobs now That's so true Yeah because that's who has jobs now. That's so true. Yeah, that's also like exacerbating these kind of like

the narcissistic gaze of constantly being like, because it's hard to, yeah. But I guess what I'm saying is like yourself, like if you're a self-image and can't comment the expense of your life otherwise. Yeah. Like by all means, like be yourself. Do self-expression post-acel if you, but that can't be like the only like the sole thing and it really is for a lot of people. Yeah, I think we are not professionally paid to do it by the way. No, no, they're not. Definitely not. not models of any sort. They're barely even like, you could barely even call them influencers. And they are just, yeah, like proliferating

their own image. And that's my big issue. For enough with like the right wing trad influencers, where they're doing it in the most disgusting and underhanded and frankly pornographic way. We're like, look at my like pure and happy and healthy lifestyle. When you know that they're like, literally just like making calculations all the time. They're very calculated people. Yeah. Everything they do is like kind of like arms length and ironic and it's designed again to and it's designed again to make other women feel bad and make men feel unrequited but also with this like moral high ground that like you have it all. Yeah there's this like tick tock her house homemaker lady who is like my day homeschooling my two-month-old and my ten-month-old and my two sons and it's like, my day, homeschooling my two-month-old, and my ten-month-old, and what I'm saying,

my two sons, and it's like she's got the most, like, brain-dudd. Boy, her life seems like hell. Like, she's like so... Like, she's, yeah, it's like, her whole life is like, doing baby stuff. Ha-ha-ha. This is my most like, anti-natalist kind of like rad

famed position is I'm like oh my god like you spent all day like playing baby games with your dumb kids and your mind's like eroded and you like documenting it and but the documenting it is like even more sinister and I personally can't help when I see those movies. Well, I say movies because I was gonna say like suspension of disbelief, right? Where you're just, I never, but you're right, they are.

I mean, never. They are movies in which you are the main character. Yeah. And then again, you wonder why you can't find love or happiness or peace. But as a viewer, I, unlike a movie, I don't have the like suspension of disbelief in which I am like glimpsing into a day in someone's life.

All I can think about is like, oh, they've set up a tripod, they've edited this footage. Yeah, yeah. There's all this like extraneous work that they've done. Well, that's why I was chimping about that video about the family with four sons. It's all stuff like that. It's all stuff like that. It's all stuff like that. This is our day or whatever.

And again, both the left and the right got it wrong why that TikTok was so despicable, which is that they had to stage it. Yeah. And it is, it's like, oh, actually much more forgivable if you're like a young single woman totally. Taking selfies than if you're like a young single woman Totally taking selfies than if you're like look hot in that people want to see supposedly a happy and fulfilled family woman making your children do TikToks. I mean that really is

Even more vivid than like that woman's the like homemaker even more vivid than like that. Women's the like homemaker, tick-tock or influencer, women, not even this one specific, but in general, like I think actually about, imagine being like the child of a woman who is like, Mommy's gonna make her video now, you better get a mom.

Yeah, who's like compulsively filming herself and you and the little arts and crafts projects that she's like sleeping in the same bed with your mom until you're 14. Definitely. It's sick. It's sick. And it is pornography, but by another name. Yeah.

Yeah. And I agree with like the whatever congressional definition of pornography back in like the what is the congressional? Do we have a working definition of pornography? Well, I forget who it was who said it, but it was back when like Catherine McKinnon and the like anti-porn feminists were Weaging their early pergay like in the 80s or whatever 90s. I don't know But there was someone who said, like, the definition of pornography, we can't actually define pornography,

but we know it when we see it. Right, yeah, of course. And that, I think, is the definition, is it's just something. So to me, the George Santos and Gypsy Rose memes are pornography because I know it when I see it. Yeah. And they are titillating in the short term at the expense

of someone else's sufferings. They provide you with like fleeting gratification while perpetuating like immense suffering in the world. That's what porn is. It is, yeah, that's, hey, you just came up with the best stuff in the porn. And in that way, almost everything, yeah, basically is porn now. But I do think, also to clarify my remarks, we have reached a point of no return

where the idea of not self-imaging is a non-starter. Like you can't not take a selfie if you participate in any kind of social media economy and the way that like right wing men have solved for this because they can't and don't take selfies is by being like sensitive young men online. Like that's their version of a selfie. Yeah. Like balls of text. Of crying out for it. Yeah, attention and validation. And being mean to women.

Should we do the Palestine question? I mean, it's not really a Palestine question, or whatever. But yeah, sure. Hey, I'm in Zasha. So I know you guys probably don't want to get in with it now because you've already done an episode about it. But it is love related.

So I'm Palestinian, my family's Palestinian Christian, and I have a love problem. I'm only into Jewish girls. And like it doesn't help that industry I'm in, there's a bunch of them. The dating app that I use, and it's not J-Day, it's like enriched. And I don't know what the deal is, but it feels extra bad right now.

And yeah, I mean that's it. So, the picture. So nice of Richard Hennel and he's a colon. Friend of the father, Richard Hennel and yeah. Israel addict. I mean, they're not Israeli girls. Who are different, you know, there is a difference. Can't you just enjoy yourself in the sexual frison that's unlocked by the racial animosity? Yeah.

You said it, sister. Take a page from my parents' playbook. unlocked by the racial animosity. Yeah. You said it, sister. Take a page from my parents' playbook. Don't ever think it. I mean, be more existing in each other. I, um, there's that like, don't you think that part of your attraction to Jewish guys is that you can be mean to them? Ha ha ha!

And they kind of like it. Something like that. I mean, it came to my attention. I tweeted about this, but there's that like, juu-belong campaign. They're all over New Jersey. They've been out for a bit. My favorite one was like, the gas chambers were just 75 years ago. Or whatever. Like doing the math. But I saw one that was like, you all liked getting invited to our bar mitzvahs, but now where are you when we need you as an ally? And first of all, that is so Jewish.

And my y'all who's been invited to Barmatza. I've never been invited to a Barmatza. And I was like, yeah, that's exactly what? Like all y'all were at the Barmatza, seven fun. And I wasn't invited to those and I never thought about it until now. Andhmm, and now I'm kind of thinking yeah actually I wasn't getting The day and y'all haven't kind of clicky and exclusionary But then that also made me think like

Yeah part of my attraction to Jews is that they are like clicky and excreta, but I wasn't invited as much. Yeah. And so I wanted to get, you know, it's the antagonistic dynamic. Yeah. But it's not one sided. No, it's two sided. It's the also.

They are clickish and exclusionary and don't invite you and you get to be mean to them. Which makes them horny. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I mean the... The Shixah Jewish guy dynamic is archetypal. It's a tale of all this time. There's just something in it that's always been comfortable.

I've just always known how to get along with a neurotic man. My question is, is this bloop trolling? Yeah, probably. But he's working in. there's no Palestinians in Hollywood. Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about there Yeah, what other industries are Jewish and what app I mean yeah, he's probably They're both defrauding black people Yeah, maybe he just lives in New York City. And is encountering a lot of juices through natural circumstances. But I, like you said, I wouldn't overthink it.

I would just enjoy it with the flow. And it's like maybe you could find your own personal mirror, Sham, like you said, I wouldn't over think it. I would just enjoy it with the flow. Yeah. And it's like maybe you could, obviously, personal mirror of sham who thinks your sexual encounter was a Holocaust. I love that peg. We do. I've been sending that around a lot.

That's my new reaction image. When you go too hard with the face too. Yeah. Yeah. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. Yeah, it sounds like he's not in Gaza or the West Bank.

And he's not like lusting for like IDF girls. Imagine being a Palestinian who's like not in Gaza or the West Bank right now you must feel so guilty. That's what's called the every step. That's what's called the every step. I'm not leaving the other hostages behind probably. Who let her out? Not come off. I know but who made the exact she was being so annoying they were like you know they could have waited here. Come off. I know, but who made the exact she was being so annoying they were like, Yeah, they got away.

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big unions like the chicken or the egg. Because they're not going to see him with the Burmets with thing. It's like a lot of people like don't group not knowing any Jews and not going anywhere. I know I said this on the Bront has episode where it's like I feel like I didn't meet a single Jew until I moved to New York which is like just factually untrue because there were Jews around there like my dad's Russian Jewish colleagues but they were so secular that we never well they're all secular for the most I mean not all but

almost American Jews are secular I they're not definitely not like super prominent in the Southwest, but I definitely need some Jews. Sorry, I should be honest. I should be afraid. I should be afraid when I'm always drawn to them. Sorry, I should be afraid when I'm always drawn to them. I should be afraid when I'm always drawn to them. Yeah.

They're, they were less like, I don't know, I guess, and worse. Well, Russian Jews have their own kind of, they are, they're trying to assimilate more. Well, because they're so Russian, they have a contempt for anything that would submit a war at like earnest or sincere, which they perceive as modland. Yeah, but also they're like relatively maligned, you could say amongst other Russians, they kind of lean on their Russian identity as opposed to their Jewish one and in the kind of diasporic, immigrant, milieu, right? If it's like, you're... I mean, yeah, my parents said like Russian Jewish friends, but we were all like kind of bonded by being Russian as opposed to like divided by our like differences.

The way they would have been had they not been in America. We were all immigrants. Yeah, exactly. It's like the thing I said about Indian and Pakistani kids, like in, yeah, on the subcontinent, there's sworn enemies here. They're best friends All you have yeah, I got more in common with a Russian Jew than I do with like a like a was yeah Or like an Appalachian or something. Yeah, for sure See like cling to them And cuz they're all from yeah

Jews love telling me they're from Belarus We're all from Belarus. My 23 and me was like you're a Belarusian. Belarus, yeah, the brutal. Nick went to the right. It all started in Belarus, folks. That should be the new name for the pale. The infertile crescent. And yeah, on all the Jews, I've always coupled with, I've always been like Lithuanian,

Belarusian, like from Riga basically. We've all, we've all like found each other somehow. You like, you're like, oh, this is like a real like connection, like it means something and you're like, no, actually, it a real like connection. Like it means something and you're like, no, actually, it doesn't because we're all from there here. Exactly. Yeah, we all have the same ancestral home. Yeah.

Riga. Yeah. Riga Park. Well, there you have it, folks. Another successful episode. Good luck out there. Happy New Year. Happy New Year.

We're like 24 hours away. Yeah. Yeah, basically. We're exactly 24 hours away. It's 12.25. It's not 12.25. It's not 1225. It is 1225. Oh, it is. Oh my God. Amazing. Great. So yeah Tomorrow will be in a whole new year. I Really hope I can get this episode up before that girl has her abortion. Oh my God. I

Know I know. See you on hell. you