Red Scare - Sorry

Episode Date: January 9, 2022

The ladies discuss Eve Babitz and Joan Didion's passing, Ghislaine Maxwell and Elizabeth Holmes' guilty verdicts, and Eric Adams' plans for the city. Plus, Anna r...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm recording, okay, we're back, we're back, I'm dusted off the gear. Wiped the cobwebs off our Zoom recorder at last. We were just talking about Aritzia again. Oh yeah, yeah, what a dump. You look great, you're wearing basic, we had to tow Aritzia. I am, yeah, with Brandy Melville. But I'm very good, as we were saying, at sourcing the kind of like, stupid little wigger sportswear stuff and not the kind of overly feminine like chiffon and pleather stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:04 It's challenging for me to find things at Aritzia. Yeah, it's hard to shop there, it's like poorly merchandise, they're annoying. Yeah, yeah, we've done our whole spiel already about the dressing rooms. Welcome back to Red Scare Podcast, where we're still talking about our favorite retail locations. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, Merry Christmas, Merry Holidays. Happy Holidays, we know it's been a while. Yeah, I have some explaining to do, some explaining.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I was recovering from top surgery, by which I mean breast implants. I was getting my breasts augmented to be large and hard. Really far spaced apart. Yes, yes, yes. Almost in the armpit area. So thank you to everyone who donated to my top surgery, go find me. I'm still traumatized because my sister bought me a care package that had like that New York magazine with the cover of the trans man. Oh, that says like, I hate my penis or what does it say?
Starting point is 00:02:29 I don't need a penis to feel like a man, but I need a penis to feel like myself or something, and it's like this guy with like a visible like thigh scarf. I've seen the cover, yeah. Did you read the article? No, I had. You didn't want to get all worked up. No, I didn't want to get all worked up at the hospital. No, which is why we'll get into this. But it was like, you know, like the kind of like missing thigh muscle that they like roll into a tube and fashion a penis out of.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Ew, that's what it is. Yeah, and like clearly a female like waist to hip ratio. But I did Google this person, my sister and I did, and she was like also like so pretty before as a woman. He was so pretty before. Um, yeah. So I have this thing in like my Elliot Page was quite a cute girl as well. And now he has the look of a, I don't know, like a failed EDM producer. Like Tech Lord.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a boy genius. Yeah, like crypto emperor. Exactly. Actually, Elliot Page does look kind of Russian. Yeah, kind of like sweaty, princely little sick. Yeah. But I have this magazine now in like the entryway and I keep it face down because I like don't want to look at that cover. Yeah, New York Mag doesn't really nail it with the covers often.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Anymore. The one that I'm the, my profile is that I bought like a couple of copies of and it has like Biden on the cover. And it's just, yeah, it's so fuggly. I can't even look at it. Yeah. I can't even take any joy in it. Remember like the heyday of New York magazine when it was like the most gorgeous covers like the Ann and Nicole Smith white trash cover. The like Lizzie Grubman PR girls cover.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yes. There was like so many cool ones that my mom still has in her basement anyway. Anyway, do you want to tell the listeners? My. Yeah. What happened? I don't know either. I was debating whether to say that I was transitioning or getting a facelift.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Just needed some down time. No, I like literally almost died. I almost died y'all. Seriously. Like seriously. I got COVID. That would be so fucked up. You got COVID.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I got COVID too but we'll get back to my COVID. The whole squad got COVID. Army Cron? I think so. I don't know. I mean, I have no idea. They don't like test for variants. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah. But it was the weirdest experience because I got COVID and like two days into it, I started developing like this weird like rash. And then only afterward did I get like fevers or throw body aches, whatever. And I had it for three weeks, which is crazy because most people recover within at least, you know, within two weeks tops. I was texting you and you're such a freak who gave birth in your own apartment. So you kept like being like, yeah, I'm okay. Yeah. But like I can't really walk.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And so you say something like that and I was like, okay. I was trying to be stoic. Yeah. You're very stoic is what I mean. Yeah. It was hard for me to gauge really. I was like sick, I guess, but I'm sick too. But I'm like, no, I know, I should be like more like upfront and transparent.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I'm just like so prideful and stoic. I never like want to ask for help or anything. But like, I literally couldn't walk third weekend and my wrists couldn't we're working. I couldn't lift the baby. And I was like, okay, this is like inflammation because of inflammation. It was like arthritic inflammation. I was like, okay, this is weird. And I went, like I spent Christmas here in like a debilitating state of pain.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And then I went to the hospital on Eli's birthday on the 27th because I literally just like couldn't walk. And I like my situation wasn't improving. And I like long story short, I didn't even have COVID. What? The COVID like you did have COVID. I did, I got the COVID, but it triggered a random freak auto inflammatory like immune response. That is a full blown like rheumatological syndrome. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Yeah. And the COVID as it turned out, I never developed a cough or chest pain or lung problems or any respiratory system problems. So like the danger with COVID, right, is that your lungs become overwhelmed. Shortness of breath is what you're told. Yeah. To watch out for. Which I didn't have either. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:36 But I think with Omicron, it's like a bad cold, whatever they say, like actually the respiratory symptoms are minimized. Yeah. Omicron is the mild variant. So it was really weird. And when I went into the hospital, there was, you know, like a procession of doctors with like bad piece of news after bad piece of news. And they did like so many labs and tests. Like I got an X-ray CT scan, blood cultures, like blood work, all sorts of like crazy shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I think like, I don't remember if they did an MRI, but I had a biopsy done because I had this weird rash. And I was like, there was like these kind of young nervous doctors coming in just like clearly alarmed. But. Yeah. And not wanting to lie. Yeah. I'm not knowing what to say. And my inflammatory markers were like so through the roof.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Like there's a. And they were so starstruck because they're big reds. Yeah. They're like, we love the pod. When's the next episode coming out? They're like, excuse me. Excuse me, sir. Are you Michelle Wellback?
Starting point is 00:08:45 I lost like 10 pounds. Started looking immediately well back. And it's just like hunched over. Yeah. I was like in the hospital in the emergency room, like with like no answers, like total uncertainty, like people were clearly bringing up, but no lung problems. So I was like thinking like, okay. And I've read all the reports of people having COVID for two weeks, starting to feel a little better than going in the hospital, never coming back. And I was just like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And they were really worried. I was like on fluids on painkillers in this room that initially they put me into my own room in the ER. And you know, like the ER is like infernal and bossy. And there's just a bedroom everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like very honored and relieved to have my own room with a private bathroom initially. And then my relief quickly slipped into horror because I went into the bathroom like hobbled in. And there was like a bed sheet with chicken wing bones on the ground. What?
Starting point is 00:09:46 Yeah. And I had like this crazy like rash on my chest. It was like very scary of 61st Street, like possessed by the Royals in like an Epstein like room with a bed sheet. I was like, should I just strangle myself? What are they trying to tell me? What hospital was it? NYU Langone. It was like a good one. I was like, no, no expenses spared. I'm paying out of pocket for this shit, whatever. But I was in this weird room.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And then when I, when I got, I got wheeled out to a CAT scan, there was this like very handsome like chipper Barack Obama asked orderly. Who's like, Oh, I know that room. That's the mental patient room. Like where they bring the suicide attempt. Oh my God, dude. I was like, what are you trying to say? Do you guys think I'm faking my illness? Are you gaslighting me? Yeah. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:10:45 But I was like in, in this mental patient room, because I had to be in isolation because they thought it was COVID, whatever. And he told me this crazy story about this homeless guy who slept there two nights before who used to be a cop. And he had two security guards from Langone were fired because they let his female companion in with like food and drugs. So that room was like haunted. And I was like up in that room. But you were in the hospital for three days. Yeah. And they moved me like on the second day. And when the situation became more clear, they moved me to like the normal like hospital bed.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I had like a view of the Chrysler Empire State building. But yeah, it was like the first, that first day was scariest hell because I was like, am I going to like see my baby again? Oh my God. And I was so scared for you because I didn't really know what was going on. And I was just talking to Nina and Eli. And I was like sobbing in my apartment. And I was thinking, but then I was like, stop it. I was like, Anna wouldn't want you to like having this like histrionic fit about like if she's going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I have to like channel her stoicism. Positive energy, but it's really hard. I was like praying on my knees. That's really sweet of you. I really was so freaked out. I feel like it was thanks to the prayers of other people. But like, and I had this moment where I like, you know, like met, you know, metaphorically would have slapped myself across the face is like, okay, stop it. Because I was like thinking like, well, you know, the baby's only nine months old.
Starting point is 00:12:26 If something happens, he won't remember me. He has people around to raise him. And then I was like, no, stop it. You can't think like this. You have to be like positive. But like in your worst moments, you do think like, of course, why am I like, I'm like, I'm 36 years old. Why am I now two or three times in the course of my life have been called upon to like look death in the eye? Like how what, and then I'm like, is it because God thinks I can handle it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And then I'm just like, no, you're being like crazy. Yeah. But anyway, I snapped myself out of it. But it turns out that I had this just like the COVID passed really quickly, but it triggered this. The inflammation. You know, that's like weird and random, possibly genetic. I don't know. My grandmother had rheumatoid arthritis.
Starting point is 00:13:13 It might go into remission. It might not. You might have like a thing forever. Like I might have chronic episodes of like arthritic pain, which is like so depressing. That sucks. So used to being like, I know, I know most of our listeners are probably like in their 20s and they think that I'm like an old hag. But I'm like used to being like a young fit woman. You're an able bodied.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Yeah, I was like, no, no problems. Yeah. And it just so weird. And like, I don't even feel like bitter or angry about it. I just like, I'm so like happy to be walking around with my kid and to be like sitting here with you and resuming the pot. Yeah. I feel like really well. It really is.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Yeah. And also before anybody scolds me, I was not vaccinated, which I don't think counts in this case because there were two, there are two cases reported in people who got the vaccine, who like develop the syndrome from the vaccine. And then another one who developed it from getting COVID. So you're saying you could have gotten this months ago. Either way. Yeah, it's unclear from the vaccination. Because it's legitimately, I just won the lottery in a really bad way.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yeah. It's like crazy. No, a couple of people I told that you were like in the hospital and stuff were like, is she going to change her mind about the VAX? And I was like, well, I'm not going to ask her that. That's extremely rude. I was like, why is that where your mind is going? I got COVID because I'm a hater and an anti-vaxxer and God punished me. Like really?
Starting point is 00:14:48 You want me to be like, hey, Anna, glad you're feeling a little better. So where are you landing on the VAX issue? Yeah. But Libs love that they love gloating about people getting unvaccinated, people getting sick, which is so disgusting. Yeah. And there's that whole genre of like people on their deathbed. Yeah. Mother 36 or like grandfather 72 expresses regret and said, I should have gotten vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:15:17 So, but in my case, it's like legitimately not clear whether. Yeah. I know. And it's also possibly medically dangerous for me to get vaccinated now because it might trigger a relapse. Like literally. Yeah. You can't get a booster.
Starting point is 00:15:32 They're going to make me. I think my doctors are like strongly pushing for it. Really? Yeah. I mean, at this point, like I've been through it also, I would even do it. And if I had a relapse, I would just like get on like a higher dose of like roids or whatever they have me on. And maybe it's possible. I will because well, because I also contracted COVID, but I was vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And I was pretty much fine. Yeah. I actually, my heartache was like, it's nice to have COVID. I hope I kind of get it again because it was pretty relaxing because I didn't have, yeah, sore throat and chest pains. I wasn't like, I did lose my taste and smell for like two days. Okay. And I was like, it was like, it was that made me really upset.
Starting point is 00:16:23 It just feels so weird and you like don't enjoy anything. It's really hard to eat and it's already so hard for me to eat and I was trying to drink bone broth. Yeah. And it was like that scene in Melancholia where Kirsten Dunst is like, it tastes like ashes. I was like, it's just oily water. I was like, wait, bone broth is just oily water. And I was like sobbing into my like mug of bone broth because I like just like, and I'm all alone and I'm so sick. But I spent Christmas with a friend of the pod, Betsy Brown and her brother Peter and Peter and I both were all I.
Starting point is 00:17:00 So I was sick like a week before I tested positive. I kept like getting both PCR and rapid tests that were coming up negative because I was doing like Q and A's. And I don't know if I had COVID or if I was just like vaguely ill, but I was like testing negative, testing negative. And then finally on like Christmas, I got like a positive test. And then I like just convalesced really in a past. With your humidifier. Yeah, I got really into humidifying my apartment, which was great for me. Yeah, that sounds fantastic.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I'm going to get in on that. It wasn't. Yeah, it was nice. Everyone kind of left me alone and you know. Yeah, that was that was the best part. Like when you're sick, people really leave you alone. But they actually, if, but if you need them, they'll come. Exactly. So it's like the perfect scenario because people are like willing to, like if you call somebody when you're sick, they'll come running or they'll.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah, I made a lot of phone calls and stuff. Alison brought me soup because she had it. Well, also everyone had Omicron and had either like recovered from it or actively had it. So like the baby got COVID. He recovered quickly. Like in a day, he had a fever and sniffles. Yeah, which actually I've become an even more conservative COVID truther because I think like what's going on with children and COVID is, is just immoral and perverted and like. It's horrible.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Yeah. We're literally sacrificing the most important people in our society for the least important people. Yeah. No offense, old people. Yeah, no, but it's, it's horrific and I, they really do not need to be vaccinated or masked and like. It's actively harmful to mask them and to vaccinate them. They're like literally fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah. I heard of two other babies that got COVID around the same time. They're all, they also like recovered within like a day or two. Like it's extremely rare for anyway, I'm not going to go down that road. I mean, I also, I also took ibermectin. Oh, you did. Which did. Did it help?
Starting point is 00:19:02 Just saying it alleviated. I don't know if it was placebo or if I was just naturally healing on my own, but it did seem to alleviate my symptoms. What did you take? Like a tablet? A tablet. Yeah. It was brought to me by someone who, a non-vaxxed friend of mine who then contracted COVID from me and was also fine because he's like 24. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Also, if you start, the other thing that is, if you start, there's like plenty of very cheap therapies that should be widely available. That if you start early on, we'll totally alleviate the symptoms. Like the vaccine is not, is by no means like the, the sole or most efficient method for treating this disease. Like if it is the case that it, yeah, that the reason, you know, everyone who has Omicron is for the most part experiencing such mild symptoms is able to be attributed to like vaccines. Then sure. Yeah. Okay. That's good.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah. Yeah. I'm really like after this point, I'm like, I mean, I've never been an anti-vaxxer, but I really don't like, you know, if you're an adult, it's really like up to you. I want to have COVID. That is my choice. Because you just want to lay in because I like to convalesce. Yeah. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Yeah, is that not my right as an American to contract COVID-19 if I want it? Yeah. That's what I want. Why should I have to get a booster shot when what I want is to get COVID? Here's my question that we're not going to be able to answer in this podcast at all. Can you get COVID again? Because there are some people who feel strongly that you can and some people who feel strongly that you can't. Some people, I know some people who have had it a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Yeah. I'm assuming. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's why you get the flu shot every year because you can get, the strain sort of mutates. The idea is that I could contract, but I feel like I couldn't have less COVID now. I feel my natural immunity is strong. Strong like boo.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Exactly. I feel better than ever. It was restorative. Yeah. It's nice after, I mean, like you were like very busy and overwhelmed. It's nice to just like have a clean and legitimate excuse to like self eject from life for a minute. Yeah. And like relax and take stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Self care. Yeah. And at the end of the year, too, it was also nice to take stock. And I was like, I started feeling better on New Year's Eve, which I also spent with Betsy and Peter. And it was like an Ava, Peter's girlfriend gorgeous, absolute dime. They all had COVID too, but we're all also basically fine. So we had our like COVID polycule. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:22:00 But I was very, yeah, I was just like, I ended the year kind of on this feeling very grateful for you being okay and like my own health. I appreciate it. Yeah. I was like, God, we really had it so good. 2021 was an intense year. Like I started it in the hospital and ended it in the hospital. Yeah. It's just crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:25 It's yeah, on onto the next one. Yeah, I'm glad. I also like don't like just like strictly like formally as a spur. I don't like odd numbered years. I like even numbered years. So I feel like 2022 is going to be really good. You have an auspicious feeling about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I agree. But that's like, you know, I've talked about this a million times, but there's that like Turkish superstition that like where you are on New Year's, you will end up like the whole year or whatever. Yeah. I was like imperative that you mean not in the hospital. Yeah. Cause I was just like and with your family. Yeah. And it's nice.
Starting point is 00:23:02 There's like nothing better than like holding your child on your couch. Oh my God, Anna, you're going to make me cry. Jesus. I'm just like very happy and grateful about that. I got really into like the grateful dad. I've always been kind of a deadhead, but I watched the documentary when I was sick and like listen to like a lot of Jerry Clips. Cool. That's a good.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah. I like kind of convinced myself I was going to read The Power Broker finally, but I definitely didn't. I like skimmed a couple of novellas and like. Wait, what's The Power Broker? It's like that book about Robert Moses and like the history of New York. It's like really big. I was like, I'm going to come out of this like the most learned New Yorker around cause I don't like. I'm going to come out of COVID knowing about racist redlining.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Cause I. Oh, I also ordered Robert Kennedy's The Real and the Fauci, but it didn't come until after I had already recovered. So now it's also just. Should we review that book on the pod? Is it long? It's so. It's long, but the margins there's almost zero. It's like it's so full of information.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Yeah. We should try. We could do it. Maybe he'd come on the show. Yeah. Or the shot. Yeah. Do you feel like you have a new lease on life after your near death experience?
Starting point is 00:24:27 Yeah, I totally. Has it changed your priorities? Um, no, it just clarified them. I think my priorities are always like kind of the same, which is like a duty to my family as gay as it sounds. But. Beautifully said. We were all lamenting when, um, like Betsy Peter and I, um, that you hadn't written a book. No, I want to do that.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Well, we can. Anna dies before there's like some of any opus. Well, it's a weird situation because when I was like laying in this hospital bed on like on my death bed dying, I got emails from like three book agents, which is like weird and seems to also be an auspicious thing. And I think now after having this experience, I'm like less scared and less perfectionistic. And I feel kind of more like, I'm just like, what do I, I should just say what I want to say and not like. Yeah. So I think I feel like.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Do that race. Do that race science. Yeah. The bell curve too. Yeah, don't be scared. Yeah. To speak your truth. If we could just tailor our policies to the different IQ problem.
Starting point is 00:25:51 No, so I think I'm going to get up on that and like be more. I mean, now, now because of the stupid syndrome that I have, my life is even more like that of a trans person. Like it's just like a series of like pain management rituals. I'm kidding. But it's like, you know, it's like. Well, that's everyone's life. It's adulthood. It's like as pain management rituals.
Starting point is 00:26:19 It's literally just like growing up. Yeah. It's like compartmentalized rituals. Yeah. Which like actually. I think like that was maybe that was the lesson like Wellbeck famously said that there's no lesson in physical suffering. I tend to agree with him, but I think the real lesson is was really just like grow up and not up and like stop clinging to these kind of like adolescent like infantile precious. Like yeah, like slivers of like kind of enjoyment and like pleasure.
Starting point is 00:26:56 No, seriously. Yeah. Yeah. I met up with an old friend recently who quit drinking and quit smoking and this is like the last person I would ever think would ever do that because he's like a self destructive like self loathing Russian person. And I was like, well, you know, I guess when you're like pushing 40 we can all do it just become like a well oiled. Yeah. High achieving adult. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Yeah. I feel like I've grown up a lot. Yeah. Totally the last few years. Yeah. Yeah. It's I'm yeah, I'm optimistic and excited for for the year ahead for sure. It feels good to be alive.
Starting point is 00:27:52 It really does. Yeah, life is, you know, every day is a gift. That's why they call it the present. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, I didn't I didn't make that up. But I'll take credit for it. No, it's almost as good as the one that's like to my haters keep sucking it about to come. Timeless.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Anyway, a lot's happened. Yeah. Since we last yeah, our last show with was with Gige. Oh yeah. I mean, that's a good also that that's a good end point to like end the year. We gave him Jones. We gave him Gige as a libtard in 2020 yelling at him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:38 He knows I didn't mean it. He's like we now that we had more of a rapport, I felt like I could interject a little more. I'd no disrespect, of course. I love the man. But he, if you recall on our episode, sort of contradicted the what he had said in his book about the situation in Chile, being not non optimistic about the prospects of this like young socialist upstart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:06 He was like running for office there. And he ended up did end up winning, which I was very shocked, shocked by. Yeah. And this kind of seems like regime regime change. Like a Croatian. He's Croatian. He's Croatian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And looks like a podcast listener. Yeah. I don't find him very inspiring or trustworthy. No. The chapeau trap houseification of Chile. International politics. Good luck. Good luck to them.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yeah. I wish them the best. Whatever. We'll see what we'll see how badly they bungled. Good luck. Oh, do you want, do you think you went to democracy? We should. And ask him what he thinks.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I did actually. What did he say? He said, you'll be my third wife. I wish. I wish. He said, I said, hi, it's Dasha. The Belarusian who co-hosts Red Scare just saw the election results in Chile. How are you feeling about Borek's victory?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Very surprising. Hope you're safe and well. He said enthusiastic because I secretly thought he will not succeed, but now comes the crucial moment. Will the establishment trigger a crisis to make him fail? Will he be allowed to do it? He promised he will need a lot of wisdom, which is not another name for compromise. Keep well in these shitty times.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Diplomatic even even handed. Yeah. I wasn't expecting him yet to not be pessimistic. Yeah. Certainly. But I also didn't want to get into, you know, I was like, so what's really going on with progressive international? So when do they start eating the bugs and vaccinating the babies?
Starting point is 00:31:04 Besides that, Joan Didion died. Yeah. As did Eve Babitz. Yeah. And Bell Hooks. Bell Hooks, who I know nothing about. I'm sorry. We're not racist.
Starting point is 00:31:19 We don't know that one. We didn't. We didn't. I read a little Bell Hooks. Certainly. At Mills. At Mills. But I didn't retain anything.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah. I was when I heard Bell Hooks died, I was like, oh, we have to make a joke on our next podcast about the master's house and the master's tools. And I was like, fuck. Oh, she came up with that. No, Audre Lorde did. Oh, God. Fuck Anna, you retard.
Starting point is 00:31:43 How could you? This is why you have COVID. Yeah. This is why you've been stricken. Yeah. You seem well, though. I'm fine. I'm in a good mood.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I'm happy to be podcasting like I said. I'm happy to be. Me too. It's really up in here in the war room. It's nice to be back. Definitely. I hope to never, to never leave, to take such an extended hiatus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Yeah. And I feel guilty even though it's not my fault for. Yeah. It's for the listeners. They all understand. So I'm just going to talk about my trauma. It was very akin to January 6th. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Happy belated January 6th. Did anything happen? I also, Dasha, I locked myself out of my Twitter on my phone by accident and I'm not a big Instagram user and also I'm shadow banned on Instagram, but I like really, that's not really like my social media platform of choice. I just like kind of coast it, but that's all I have now. And I don't know how to get back on Twitter because I don't know my password. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Right. So I have to like go on my laptop browser, which is pathetic and gay and I refuse to do that. Not the way. Yeah. Not the way. So yeah, you're, you don't know what's going on. So I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Me neither. Really. I'm pretty checked out. What was I talking about? Jan 6th. So I don't know. I kind of deliberately ignored it because it's so fucking annoying that anyone would call it like an insurrection.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I think Tucker had a good segment. He really gave it to him good Nancy lizard Pelosi and the cast of Hamilton did a little like song and dance about it that I could barely watch because as you said, it was unspeakably gay. But yeah, besides that, it seems like they're just really trying to sell it as, you know, what they were trying to do a year ago as like a threat to our democracy, but insurrection, the coup. And yet Hamilton is like positively and like an insurrectionary musical.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Is that what Hamilton's about? I think so. It's like about political. So Alexander Hamilton, who I also know nothing about. Anyway, we should probably stay in our lane and talk about women writers. Yeah. Women women who white women who have died Eve Babitz died first and then was sort of overshadowed.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I think by John Stath, which I had been anticipating for for a bit because she's been getting the Henry Kissinger of letters, RIP to a real one. It's funny though, because Babitz and and Diddy and had tension. They did. Yeah. That's interesting. I think Babitz said something to the tune of like, thank you to the Diddy and Dunn's for being what I am not like.
Starting point is 00:34:43 She said something like catty or something about the meow. And did Joan say anything cutting back? I don't think so, but I think that they kind of like tiptoed around each other because they were like the two L.A. Doyens, right, right, right, right. Which do you prefer? I, well, I don't know much about Eve Babitz. It's actually really funny and serendipitous too, because right around the time that I got sick, a friend of mine gave me an Eve Babitz book like right before she died.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And also, no, it was probably earlier, I'm misremembering, but somebody very recently gave me an Eve Babitz book. And then I started rereading because I have a really beautiful, like fancy copy of the Year of Magical Thinking. And I started rereading that too randomly. And you know, she, that's the book about her husband and her daughter dying. And it's like really, I'm a Diddy and fan, I think, more than Babitz because Diddy and is very kind of like, serious.
Starting point is 00:35:49 She's serious and precise and kind of imperious, which I like. Yeah. I've read that, what's that one you have there, that's slow days, fast company. I've read that one. I've read Babitz here and there. I like have enjoyed reading it, but it's never really made like I couldn't really recall any of her essays. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I mean, certainly not as well as I can recall her, Big Natural's 36 double D baby. And I, you know, appreciate her as a figure, but of course, Diddy and for me, like, I mean, played as it lays is one of my favorite, not very narcissistically, one of my favorite books, novels rather. And like, I can recall and practically recite a lot of Diddy and SSA, you know, like they really do stay with you. Yeah. She's like a one of a kind, like fantastic writer, Babitz, I think there was, it's interesting
Starting point is 00:36:54 because I was reading the introduction to this book and the guy was like, well, you know, how come, how come male writers can be like raconteurs and party boys who do coke all night at Chateau Marmont, but still be considered geniuses, but women are forever, you know, consigned to the role of like party girl or it girl. And he was like making this point. And he basically asks, like, was Eve Babitz a genius who liked to party or, you know, merely as people like to write her off a party girl with like, who had strokes or flights of genius.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah. And I was like, no offense. This is nothing to do with gender. She was the latter. She was not. Yeah. No offense. No offense.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Like none. That's a great thing to be. Yeah. That's probably, that's, that's as good as being a genius who likes to party. Yeah. She's like, you know, a cool and talented like party girl, but she's not a literary genius. Joan Didion, on the other hand, is a literary genius. And in terms of her influence, you know, good or bad, like is, yeah, yeah, just, it's not
Starting point is 00:38:05 a contest, I mean, but, but yeah, Didion really knew how to like craft a sentence. Yeah. And I think like her writing actually got better as she got older. Like it became less kind of, how'd you put it? It became, it became kind of like less interested in, you know, being enviable and less narcissistic. The critique of Didion for me is that especially in her early work, which I also think is great, I think she hides behind style and she's so, so talented and proficient and cool. She really is like cool in the true meaning of, of that word, but so her writing can be
Starting point is 00:39:00 a little like terse and frigid and it doesn't quite get it, but that's why the magical thinking is so good because she's actually like reckoning with something below the surface. Yeah. And it's, it's just, it's, you know, ostensibly is a very deeply personal account of her losing her family in this tragic event or series of events, but it's actually like very universal. It's not particularizing, which is like important. My, I guess my critique of, of Didion is that like the biggest one that can be said of her is that in spite of being this like incredibly talented and legendary writer, there is an
Starting point is 00:39:46 argument to be made that her legacy is more negative than positive in the net because she spawned a legion of lesser imitators and basically all literary prose in this day and age is Didion derivatives, like everything because literature is owned, it's run by women. Yes. And 100%. They all want to write like Didion, they all want to ape her style, but. Which is also a testament to her talent. I mean, I find when I read Didion, it's really hard not to like absorb that, that voice even
Starting point is 00:40:23 internally. Yeah. You know, I'll find myself thinking more like Didion even. Yeah. And I imagine if I were, yeah, a writer that it would, it would be really hard to avoid that influence. Right. And Didion voice.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yeah. I mean, you know, I would name names and be a little hater bitch, but it's pointless because it's literally every woman writer you can think of writes like Didion, literally every single one of them, like any famous one, like even Emily Radaczkowski's book, which I think was very well written in terms of its prose, sat has a very kind of Didion ask, like cool, but simultaneously warm quality to the prose. Yeah. Like everybody writes like Didion.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Yeah. I'm trying hard to think, but of one who. Of a woman writer who doesn't. Who doesn't. So don't read that much, but. And also this is like a strictly kind of like circumstantial, it's like just like a commercial thing, like women are the chief, I think producers and consumers of literature now. But her influence in other words has been, she's like such a watershed figure.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Her influence is so like immense, like she, her, her legacy has captured the entire industry. And it's like unclear how we even get out of that and like produce. Yeah. Alternatives to that voice. Without just like a mere kind of like postmodern deconstructionist turn or something like something that's actually would be actually new. And like, I think the problem also is that a lot of these younger women writers who like are Didion like imitators, they, they over way, they, her sense of style and underway
Starting point is 00:42:16 her sense of substance, like they can't, they, they have all of her entitlement with none of her like insight or nuance and like, so they think that their stories are as interesting and important to tell as hers are and it's not true, you know. Or that they're, yeah, that their perspective is as, is, as, yeah, like biting or that they too can like x-ray the, what's really going on and that's something so few people can really do because they are also bound up in their like ego and style exactly. Yeah. And like none of them could deliver a line as devastating as the one from the essay on
Starting point is 00:43:00 the women's movement where she talks about how the activist class like try to find a revolutionary subject in pours and then in blacks and having failed that found women. That's a great essay. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she saw it all. I know.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And a lot of people these days could do, do well with like really reading Didion. Yeah. But like with, yeah, the substance in mind rather than just sort of reveling in the like flavor and aesthetic of her style, like if more people really read on self-respect and really thought about what that essay was about. Yeah. Yeah. They would be better off.
Starting point is 00:43:40 How do you do that? Yeah. You have to be a very high IQ genius. Yeah. Like you literally have to like pull yourself out of like your quote, false consciousness and be like, okay, I have to like approach this thing in like a totally new and fresh way, which is impossible because she's so oversaturated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And like you actually like literally never have to read Didion to write like Didion. No, exactly. So it's ubiquitous. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I'm trying to think of like other figures that have been so like kind of like canonical that they've produced a net negative for the culture because everybody tries to copy
Starting point is 00:44:18 them. Hmm. Hmm. I can't think of anybody like off the top of my head. Well, I said John Coltrane, but that means nothing to you because I don't know anything about jazz. Yeah. Of course.
Starting point is 00:44:32 John Coltrane's influence on jazz music. We won't. We all know. But it'll come to me. Yeah. Um, which word, which, which, where should we put it? I don't know. Do we have any more?
Starting point is 00:44:51 Do we have any more thoughts on thoughts on, uh, thoughts on, uh, thoughts on, uh, thoughts on Diddy and in Babbit's, no, took down some book quotes, but I like don't really want to read quotes. Um, this point, it's been, it's been a while. Uh, yeah, I don't know. Um, we can talk about, um, Jizz and Liz. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Getting caught. I mean, Maxwell and Elizabeth Holmes, both found, found guilty. Mosul. Good riddance. Yeah. Good. Good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I liked that meme of, um, Gilan and Jeffrey that says like, the best couples always like finish each other's sentences. Uh-huh. It feels like, I don't know, there's some karmic satisfaction in her going to jail. I guess. Yeah. I wasn't really being that attentive to the trial. Um, cause I was promoting my film and frankly, I'm really sick of talking about Jeffrey I've
Starting point is 00:45:55 seen and all that sorted stuff. So I just really didn't have the, the bandwidth for it. Think about it. Yeah. Um, I just think it would be funny if there was like a sitcom that was Gillan and Liz Holmes like in a cell together, trying not to like get killed. They'll be in a women's prison. They'll be in a women's prison.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Yeah. I guess. Probably. Yeah. Not so bad. No. It's not so bad. How long is Liz Holmes going, going down for?
Starting point is 00:46:29 I have no idea. Um, my, my, I've never, I've never had any interest in Elizabeth Holmes. Yeah. I mean, my hot take on her is that as kind of like insane and diabolical and like Sampaku eyes, she is, she's also just like a scapegoat for the greater ills of the startup industry, which they, they're all fucking liars and grifters and hucksters. They're all selling like fake and gay, like dream machines that have nothing in them. I mean, they are completely speculative economy and they're all like trying to ratchet up
Starting point is 00:46:59 their evaluation so that they could flip the company before they have to produce an actual product because there's nothing there because it's all like gas speculation. Yeah. So she's really just much like Gillan though she was monstrous, certainly a bit of a fall guy for a larger ill who homes, homes. Yeah. And like, I don't know at this point, I guess the most interesting thing about her is that she like those texts with like Sonny Balwanti that are like pretty funny, I guess.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Somebody should turn that into a play. I'm just like chock full of ideas. Yeah. You're really generative. That's workshop this sitcom about Gillan Maxwell and Elizabeth Holmes being lesbians. Like, orange is the new black meets blue is the warmest color every studio is like, no, big short. That's a disgusting idea.
Starting point is 00:47:53 These women are reviled green light. You got a you got a pilot on your hand. Let me see how long Elizabeth, Elizabeth Holmes is going to jail for. I saw an ad for a new Lucy and Desi movie starring like Nicole Kidman. I saw that. I was like, no offense, they're both like good and accomplished actors, but that's the worst casting ever. It comes up with this shit.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Yeah. I know. It's literally like think tanks of people in Hollywood like collaging together, packaging. It's called packaging. Okay. And it's when like same war producers when something is basically like made by a committee of producers who have various like professional relationships and obligations and then assemble a movie basically by like attaching, you know, a director and actor, you know, what could
Starting point is 00:48:58 possibly go wrong. Exactly. And that's why so few things have like a cohesive singular vision and everything feels so like skit so far. Like, I mean, I can't. Yeah. That makes me feel skit. So and I also thought they haven't sentenced her yet, but she was found guilty of not guilty
Starting point is 00:49:16 of four charges of seven. She was found guilty. Okay. I mean, I guess if you really think about it, it's pretty baller for a woman to end up in jail. Yeah. Martha Stewart did it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:32 And she's doing just fine. I mean, not like, I mean, you're like kind of like average upper middle class white woman. It's rare for that. Yeah. That's why. Exactly. Exactly. All types of other women go to jail.
Starting point is 00:49:43 It's pretty crazy. That's that's a high accomplishment. Like it's not not an accomplishment. No, I think it'll be maybe it'll be fruitful for her. Maybe she can come up with a new idea for a startup in jail while she's while she's in there. Maybe, I don't know, involving like license plates or whatever, I don't know what they do in prison.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Cigarette. Yeah. I think I have to go to jail after having this near death experience, like that's the next thing. No, I would hate that. I would hate that for you. Cigarette away to go to jail. We can't go to jail.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Guess who's going to jail? I was listening to Donda. Speaking of jail, did you hear that the new Manhattan DA, Alvin Bragg, wants to put less people in jail? No, definitely didn't hear that. He laid it. I mean, I read this in like the New York Post, which is my main news source, but they're basically, I think only prosecuting like violent criminals now, so all crimes, but basically
Starting point is 00:50:55 living in the purge. But Eric Adams more broadly wants, does want to clean up the streets, which means what? More people in jail. Okay. So they have too many criminals. So they're in conflict with each other. It remains to be seen, yeah. I've been living in the purge for like a year up in here, two years, because they stopped
Starting point is 00:51:18 coming up with like misdemeanor charges. Yeah. That's going to get worse. I think in Manhattan, at least. So you can like literally just like, I don't know, rob somebody and like nothing happens. Dada. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:31 There's some shit happens on this block every day. Yeah. And there used to be, I swear to God, there used to be cop cars and like floodlights and the cop cars are just like, yeah. Now they don't even come around. Just a police presence at least. Something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:50 They're just not around. NYPD protect me. Yeah. You know? I literally walked by one of those like little Italy Chinatown like tourist kiosks and I was like, I should just like get some NYPD gear and make that happen because it looks so cool. I love it.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yeah. You know, I'm a fan. Yeah. You know, I'm like the hat, the long sleeve, like a tactical vest. Maddie has a cool like FDNY, never forget t-shirt that she wears a lot that's really cute. Nice. And I got a Nantucket t-shirt at Brandy recently that's like, they kind of looks like NYPD-ish.
Starting point is 00:52:27 We need to do like a red scare Brandy Melville NYPD collab. Like a triple. That's a good idea. That's yeah. So cute. Yeah. The shorts. It could be, you know, we could just like, maybe the colors could be more like anime.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Yeah. For e-girls. Yeah. For girls in support of the carceral state. But Eric Adams, our new mayor, our new black mayor, he is also a big advocate for people going back to work like physically in the office, which I think is fantastic. Yeah. It's good.
Starting point is 00:53:12 People probably should have had some. He's keeping the schools open. Yeah. Thank God. He's making a lot of sense. Okay. This guy, I'm like. I'm going to look into him.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I liked Sliwa because he was out of his mind and I didn't vote because I did, don't, but I'm like, I'm vibing with, uh, uh, with Adams. With Adams. Yeah. So far so far. All right. I'll keep my fingers crossed. I'll be optimistic.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I guess that, um, he'll clean up the streets and unmask schoolchildren. I sent you. You probably will. Uh, he might, dude. He said, um, I sent you this, but you were probably convalescing. Um, he says, he said, when a mayor has swagger, the city has swagger, we've allowed people to beat us down so much that all we did was wallow in COVID. And this was like part of a larger press conference where he says, he said that you
Starting point is 00:54:11 can't run New York city from home. So all these like bookworms, trying to work from home and stay in their pajamas all day, like a bunch of degenerate losers need to get back into fucking flat iron and spend their money on like shoe shines and like go to that Munga counter and get your lunch and go sit behind your iMac screen. What do they have? I don't know. They have everyone participate in our financial ecosystem to allow the low skill unskilled
Starting point is 00:54:42 and people who are doing hourly employees to actually be part of our ecosystem. They can't remotely do their job. We must get open and let me tell you why that accountant from a bank that sits in an office is not only him. It feeds our financial ecosystem. He goes to the cleaners and gets his suits cleaned. He goes out to the restaurants. He brings in a business traveler, which is 70% of our hotel occupancy.
Starting point is 00:55:05 He's like, he is a man who knows who knows what time it is and he doesn't care. Run this beep city. And New York does need its swagger bag. Yeah. It needs more underpaid precarity workers going on those little e-bikes. No. We need less of that. Seamless food.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Flat iron. No, but that's like a secondary effect, right? If you have more office workers, I mean, there should go into the office. It's like, no, all these people working from home are like, door-dashing and seamlessing. And like the idea is, I think if you work in an office, you have a PA who goes and gets. Oh yeah. And you go to buffet. You go to one of those 23.
Starting point is 00:55:56 You go to Gourmet Garage, like a fucking grown up and you get a salad from those salad bar. That's right. Yeah. Sorry, it's my long COVID brain fog. He's 100% right about opening the city back up. And I like to hear like an optimistic, non-victimizing message. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:18 That's not like the trauma of New York. It's like New Yorkers are tough and strong and will not be. That's why I love living in this fucking city. Hashtag New York strong. You're not wallowing in COVID. Yeah. We're going to the office to make money. Except for me, I'm going to be wallowing in COVID and working from home.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Yeah. Well, we're part of the financial ecosystem as well. The dreaded media class. Here we are. Yeah. And just like telling people to return to the office while we like literally work from home. Well, I go, we have an office that I go to sometimes.
Starting point is 00:57:01 That's true. I like need to get keys. Maddie goes to the office. Yeah. You know? I'm just going to go up in that operation and running. She's keeping the operation running. Be like that homeless man, former officer, just like live in our tiny office on the beanbag
Starting point is 00:57:14 with the baby. We got rid of the beanbag. Wait, why? It was so cumbersome and it just wasn't the right success vibe out in the street. Yeah. I guess it did somebody take it. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:27 No. I guess the beanbag is. Yeah. It's a desirable. They are. For a certain. Like a homeless person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Oh, if I was a bum and I came up on a beanbag. Yeah. I would just like bore a hole in it and got a sleep on the inside. Um, no, you're right. Having a beanbag is like smoking weed a lot. It's just like, well, it's not, it's not, it's not like go get our mindset. Exactly. Cause you just sink into the beanbag.
Starting point is 00:57:56 It's not an auspicious way to exactly. You're not trying to chill at the office. You're trying to. Yeah. And before you know it, you've gained like 20 pounds. You look like Artie Lange laying. Artie Lange. Famed up.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Artie Lange. This is psychologist. Um, oh, also speaking of weird skin conditions, I found, I also found out a really interesting tangentially thing about, I feel vindicated cause I went to the dermatologist yesterday for like self-care and got my face lasered because I had this appointment that I'd booked a month ago. I didn't want to cancel it. I was like, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Um, you got to go. And I was like a month ago is like, you know, it's about to be 2022. I never do anything nice for myself. I'm 36. I'm a mother. I'm going to do self-care. I'm going to get a Botox consultation. So I scheduled a Botox consultation with this woman and today I went in and had it and
Starting point is 00:58:53 I was like, okay, I want to get Botox in my 11 lines, but I have this auto inflammatory condition. Can I do it? And she was like, yes, there's no contraindication. Botox is extremely safe, doesn't migrate, whatever, go, you know, whatever, follow up with your rheumatologist. It's not like, if you had told me you wanted to get filler, I would say absolutely not. And I was like, whoa, whoa, hold on, I was like pivoted and I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:59:22 Tell me more about filler. And she was like, well, filler is known to produce an autoimmune response and in fact, we don't administer it within two weeks of any vaccine or booster because it can literally make your face. Yeah. Remember, we're hearing about that lumpy. And I remember like not to glow and being annoying, because I'm like on a new humbles and tip after my near death experience, but I've been saying that like filler produces
Starting point is 00:59:53 an autoimmune response, like especially if you do it habitually and cumulatively. And this woman is no joke. She's like a Soho celebrity dermatologist. She's not some Schmo from Brighton Beach. And she said this, like they will not give you filler if you're going to get vaccinated for COVID if you have any sort of autoimmune disease. Wow. And I was like, okay, damn, I mean, this particular office, I don't know how other offices operate,
Starting point is 01:00:23 but I'm sure if you go to plump, they'll shoot you right up. But you've been saying this. Good to know. I feel vindicated. And she said that the alternative, if you want to add volume to your skin, et cetera, is to get micro-needling because that's safe. That's yeah, I've heard about that. That's when they run the little needles over your face.
Starting point is 01:00:44 It's like, I think it's like the Kim Kardashian vampire facial. I mean, tretinoin is, it really is the be all and all for me. I'm like so sold on, on tret. I think it's the best decision I ever made. I look better than I looked. Like I see photos of myself from 2019 and I'm like, oh my God, girl, you were a mess. Yeah. No, you look great, but I think it's, but I had a drinking problem.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Yeah. You had a drinking problem and also no money. And yeah, I'm like, I don't know what it is. I'm looking so much better now that I'm getting facials once a month and stuff. Yeah. It's a myth that you look worse with age. You only look worse with age if you're poor. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Ding, ding, ding. If you have disposable income, like the world is your oyster. That's really good to know. Well, I also saw recently, they admitted that the vaccine was messing with women's periods, but we kind of still don't know why. I didn't read the article. Yeah. But I was like, they finally admitted it.
Starting point is 01:01:43 But I had the weird experience of it making my period more regular, which I haven't heard anyone else experiencing. Are you sure that's the vaccine? No, I could have been lifestyle changes, but it was post vaccine. I started getting a relatively regular menstrual cycle, which I hadn't had for much of my life. So whatever. So you can just casually get pregnant now? Probably.
Starting point is 01:02:12 If you're having a regular period. If I know when I'm ovulating, it's pretty hard to get pregnant. You're more fertile than I am probably. You have to be ovulating. Yeah. But if you're getting your period, you're ovulating. But not all the time. You ovulate like a couple of days a month.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yeah. You ovulate like in the middle of the cycle, and the thing only lives for like 24 hours. So you have to get the nut in. You got to get the nut in at the right time. That's all I'm saying is it's not. Yeah. So basically, if you want to get pregnant, you have to be having sex like often, frequently. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:47 But I do want to get pregnant, but I'm not ready yet. Yeah. But yeah, I think I'm optimistic that I won't have to do IVF or something. No, you probably are not. It's a gross thing. Yeah. Some fertility. Surrogacy.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Yeah. I guess I'll just have to do surrogacy. Well, it's crazy, yeah, that you had this horrible thing happen to you because you don't have filler and you avoid seed oils, which also cause inflammation. Yeah. No, I mean, I think it would have happened anyway. It's genetic. Yeah, it's genetic.
Starting point is 01:03:27 We're such environmental, but I don't think having filler or eating seed oils would cause something like that, but having those things in retrospect could be damaging if you have existing autoimmune. I'm not trying to be alarmist, by the way, I think filler is probably mostly safe for most people. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's probably fine.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Like the COVID vaccine. In 20, 30 years, it's going to come out that there are probably some immunological slash personogenic effects of these foreign substances. Yeah. It makes sense. If you have an organ transplant, there's like a not insignificant chance that your body will reject the organ and attack it at just a foreign matter. Yeah, but filler is like, subdermal.
Starting point is 01:04:13 It's not, it doesn't have to like integrate into your body or. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it makes sense that your body at that level would could reject. Of course. Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yeah. Anyway, the more, the more, you know, maybe that's what I'll write my book about. I'll just write a 90 page novella with like two inch margins about like filler and sunscreen that like nobody will read or buy. The truth about the real truth about sunscreen by Anna Katzian, there's a picture of you on the back. People are like. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:48 They're just like her son, her melasma. Your skin looks great. But. Yeah, I'm like covered in welts, not due to my COVID due to my expensive laser procedure. They're going to like scab off. My cystic acne is finally clearing up. Were you a cystic acne? I was having really bad cystic breakouts in December, I think, because I was under so
Starting point is 01:05:15 much stress and just, I don't know. That's also why I got it got a humidifier. Uh-huh. Does that help? Yeah. Humidify. Humidity enough, especially in New York with these dry-ass like radiator or electric heat apartments.
Starting point is 01:05:31 It gets so dry in the winter and you need like humidity. It helps with inflammation, it helps with everything. It's healthy to be in a humid environment. Yeah. It makes you feel like. That's why steaming is also, yeah, a good practice. I would love to go to like a Russian or Korean bath. They reopened the Russian Turkish baths in the East Village, by the way, and apparently
Starting point is 01:05:56 remodeled them. Oh, nice. Do you have to wear a mask? I guess not if you show card because it's just like weird to be in a sauna wearing a mask. Show card. No, and I used to go to this place in Williamsburg called Bath House that like, I was very laissez-faire about masking very early on.
Starting point is 01:06:13 And a lot of places are, I had actually, I got a great blowout the other day from an Israeli hairdresser that I found randomly. And I walked into the salon and I was like, I don't have a mask because I don't wear a mask when I walk around because I'm a sovereign fucking citizen. And he said, you have come to the right place. And I said, thank you, sir. And I'm going to keep going there literally because I don't have to wear a mask. He gained like a lifelong patron.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Where is this dude operating at? Like lower east side. Nice. He gave me a nice blowout. Have you hooked me up? Yeah. I'll give you his number. I need it.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I don't have a fancy card or he likes when you take the mask off. That whole thing is preposterous too. By the way, that like the hair cutting, hair styling thing, like how the fuck can you cut somebody's hair while they're wearing a mask? Yeah. Without knowing the right face framing layers to give them. It's so weird. We would never have the Rachel today because we can't see people, friends had to wear masks.
Starting point is 01:07:14 And the Israeli hairdresser, I also told him. He was, we were talking about Israel and I said, I've heard great things. We had the fakest combo about Israel. It was so pleasant. Yeah. I was like, oh, you're the pomegranate's there. Yeah. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Did you just like complete? It's so great when you can like go in Cognito and like not, you have to not air your politics. Not at all. You're just a normal person. Yeah. We don't have to get into Israel. It'd be funny if you like accosted him. Do you know that you're from an apartheid state?
Starting point is 01:07:46 What do you think about Palestine? Yeah. You have to be like, please put a mask on. I'm so tired of listening. You squawk at me, you bitch. One of my Israeli friends said to me the other day, he said, in my country, we have a, he's like Israel is Israeli. He said in my country, I was saying woman, woman, bag of snakes.
Starting point is 01:08:12 I love that. I love that. So true. Yeah. Totally. Some Israeli wisdom. Yeah. Um, but yeah, the gym as well is very like, no mask.
Starting point is 01:08:26 No mask. Yeah. Yeah. They're not. That's true. Yeah. They're just not doing it there. I have a steam room there as well.
Starting point is 01:08:34 I have a free workout session at the Knox because Eli joined. I see Eli there. That's horrifying. And my trainer, I was like, wait, wait, my trainer was like, who is that? And I was like, I was like, he's like, maybe really happy to say like, oh, he's my co-hosts, baby daddy. I was like, yeah, they're not married. He's just her baby daddy because my black trainer understands stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Yeah. I felt like he was like, very cool. You know, friends with babies that have wedlock me too. Friends and blacks are united in absentee fatherism and like having kids out of wedlock and in a lot of other ways only we can understand. Bad with money. Bad with money, like gold jewelry, like UGGs. I went to the UGG store the other day because I was like, I'm going to treat myself and
Starting point is 01:09:26 get comfortable boots to walk around and, um, and it was like literally me and black people in the Soho shop. That's cool. Yeah. And this like black lady kept yelling at her daughter like, Kayla, check the car because she was like illegally parked and was afraid to get towed. She just ran in real quick to get a pair of UGGs. That's a good idea to get.
Starting point is 01:09:49 You got the full boot? I didn't. They were sold out. I ordered on Amazon. I got like a mini, like a half boot. Really cute. Yeah. That's nice.
Starting point is 01:09:59 That's another part of getting older. What? Being. Yeah. Just prioritizing. Comfort. Comfort. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Yeah. I was like, I don't, I don't need to be wearing like three four inch heels anymore. I'm a mother. You're a mother. Okay. I'm just going to wear. I'm going to. I'm going to.
Starting point is 01:10:18 She's in the hospital. Yeah. I'm just going to schlep around in UGG boots, like Jelene Maxwell on the upper west side. I couldn't stand it when you were in the hospital. Yeah. It was horrible. Get her. Get her out of there.
Starting point is 01:10:37 And like my roommate was this like literal 95 year old lady who survived COVID, who was like very nice and positive. Like she, I was very impressed and like totally lucid and with it, but like all old people, she was like annoying and stubborn and set in her ways and the bitch fucking refused to turn off the light at night. So I couldn't sleep because she had that like loud hospital light. Why? Was she not sleeping?
Starting point is 01:11:02 She was lying awake. She was just like kind of lying there. Sometimes I'd like pass her and her eyes would be open. Sometimes they would be closed. She was just like, you know, convalescing. Oh God. And she wouldn't turn off the light. And I was just like, I had to like plead with the nurses to like trick her into turning
Starting point is 01:11:18 off the light. That's, that's awful. Yeah. That sucks. I've never stayed overnight at the hospital. I've done it twice in 2021 with this baby first and now with this COVID. It sucks. I hate hospitals.
Starting point is 01:11:33 It's like they're creepy. Yeah. They make you feel worse. They're bad place. Yeah. They kill you. Yeah. They literally do.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Did you tell, you told them you were unvaxxed obviously. Yeah. I'm surprised they didn't kill you to prove a point. I know. No, they were actually doctors. Everyone was actually really chilled about it. Deal the final blow. Just like showed up.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Yeah. I mean, I swear to God, I got out feeling like, you know, like a liberated like POW prisoner or like one of those sand fly fouchy beagles. I was like, my head's been just like poked and prodded and got on by hate what he did to those beagles. I know. I'll never forget that. I know that alone violates the Nuremberg codes, right?
Starting point is 01:12:17 Yeah. Yeah. Is there anything else on the docket? I feel like, you know, I don't know. We should. I think we should review the RFK Junior, is that the book? Yeah. The Fauci book.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Yeah. I ever since finding out he was married to Cheryl from Kerr, like to imagine a sitcom about their married life where she gets exasperated with him all O'Larry when he like is talking about how the CIA murdered his family. He's like Robert. He's like writing a book about how Fauci is like Satan. The real Fauci. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Yeah. We should read it. I've heard it's very good. We need some heavy hitting off the wall content. Yeah. This is one of my favorite parts of the pod is when we speculate about future stuff we could do that we never end up doing. I think we were supposed to review the new Louis special, which I purchased and watched
Starting point is 01:13:21 and it was fine. But yeah, I watched about half of it, but I guess I wasn't feeling like laughing that much. Yeah. It was fine. He looks good. He looks better. He looks almost senatorial.
Starting point is 01:13:34 He like tried out a little. He's less pudgy. He looks handsome, but every comedian now has to do the like cancel culture and trans jokes and put their spin on it. I know. I know. It's becoming a bit tedious for sure. And I'm just like, you guys really don't have to address this in your special.
Starting point is 01:13:55 But he being canceled. Yeah. But that's because they keep canceling them and stuff and then they're, yeah, they're stuck in this stupid discourse loop. Yeah. That they can't bust out of and then someone gets right to think piece, it's like actually when you made that about trans people, it's not okay and it's actually not that's the worst when you're like, it's actually not even funny.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Yeah. The joke. It's not funny. I have a good sense of humor. I'm the only trans person with a good sense of humor and I didn't think it was funny. What else could we do? We could watch licorice pizza. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:39 I watch Don't Look Up, the Adam McKay movie with the star studded cast about that's sort of a allegory, loosely for climate change. It was okay. I'll check it out. Jonah Hill is really good in it. I wouldn't recommend you watch it. You'll find it annoying for sure. Much respect to Jonah Hill, the weight fluctuating king.
Starting point is 01:15:03 I really relate to his self-hatred and the manifests his weight fluctuation. Yo, yo, dieting. Yeah. Yeah. I look at him and I'm just like, man, you look pretty good right now but you really don't like yourself. I can tell because you're like clenching, flexing your biceps a little too hard in this picture and your clothing is a little too linen.
Starting point is 01:15:27 I like fat guys. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Well, we've done an hour of 15. Oh, it's not bad, but I'm impressed. Yeah. Well, not much on the on the docket. Well, we'll read and review some stuff or watch and review some stuff for the next one. Yeah, that sounds good.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Yeah. There's certainly some something where let's take some suggestions. Yeah. Yeah. Keep DMing us. Yeah. I stuff you think. I almost died.
Starting point is 01:16:05 So you guys owe me. Yeah. If you unsubscribe from the Patreon, you're going to want to re-subscribe because Anna almost died. So you're actually taking money away from a young unvaxxed mother, a young thing. So are you going to get vaxxed? I don't know. I'll see what my team of doctors say.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Yeah. It's really hard to function. I'll just get vaxxed if you guys throw in some free Botox. No fillers though. No fillers. Because we know the real truth about fillers and seed oils. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:16:44 I mean, I might do it. I have to figure out if it'll, I mean, I have no idea if it'll true. I don't want to get boosted because I just had COVID. Yeah. So when do you have to get boosted? No. No one's forcing me to yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Yeah. I'm like, I don't want to get boosted. I, apparently, Phinellys is asking for boost. For boost. Okay. Damn. And I'm like, the fuck? That's harsh.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Yeah. I'm like, again, I'm okay with like one time, two time vaxx, whatever consenting able-bodied adults want to do in the privacy of their own home. I believe it's mostly harmless for most people, like parlor fillers. Yeah. But like a regime of boosters just seems like mandates. It's the mandates I can't get behind. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Yeah. Whatever. Trump got boosted. He did? Yeah. Alex Jones was really upset about it. Interesting. He said he's done with Trump.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Because he got boosted. That's the last straw. Yeah. Okay. But he's as bad as Fauci and Pugates and all those other tuxedo-wearing coastal elites. He did say, I was watching in Four Wars randomly, ha ha ha, ironically. And he was doing, he was like, got himself worked up into like a really beautiful free associative realm where he was like, and I hate these perverts in LA and New York.
Starting point is 01:18:08 And then he said, and I hate tuxedos. I was like, whew, whew. I miss that guy. He hates tuxedos. I miss him, I do. But you can always tune into infowars.com to catch this transmission. Tune into the episode of our podcast with him on repeat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Which you have to subscribe. Oh, maybe we should unpay all that. Oh, yeah, we could. We didn't even think to do something like that. I would love to go shooting with dad again. That's like my Make-A-Wish kid foundation wish. They let you shoot a gun at the hospital. That's all I want.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Yeah. So pull that trigger one more time. Yeah. It did feel good as hell. Yeah. Well, let's see that green light. Anyway, glad to be back. Glad to have you.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Thank you. We'll see you in hell. See you in hell. We'll see you in hell.

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