Red Scare - The Podsurrection
Episode Date: January 8, 2023The ladies discuss Andrew Tate vs Greta Thunberg, Nassim Nicholas Taleb vs Jordan Peterson, Prince Harry vs Prince William, and t...
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Happy January 6th.
Happy Jan- Hey, Happy January 6th.
Long live the insurrection.
I literally thought it was a last year.
I was like, it's the one year anniversary of it.
I was like, oh, wait.
It's the two year anniversary.
It's been two whole years.
We're still talking about this fucking fed
surrection as the Darren Beatty is called.
We've taken stock.
We've heard your complaints.
No more right wing men on the podcast.
That's not a promise.
I think we can keep it.
I like that woman in the comments who was like,
I'm probably one of your only Gen X female listeners
and I love you girls and everything you stand for.
But you really have to pump the brakes on the fascists.
Hey, you know, I didn't want any of this to happen.
You know, I hear you girl.
I really do.
No sarcasm, no irony detected.
I'm just a girl who likes German philosophy.
I didn't mean to get caught up in the fourth right.
Trust me, I wish I could.
I don't hate the player.
I wish I never took that red pill and I want to go back.
There's a new movie that I've been seeing ads for on the subway
or maybe it's a show, I'm not sure,
but it's called Black Mafia Family BMF
that I really want to see.
That sounds good.
It looks good.
I like the sound of that.
Yeah, whatever it is, we'll check it out.
Yeah, happy New Year's.
Happy New Year's.
Yeah, I feel bad about this year.
Why?
You have a bad feeling.
I have a bad feeling.
But you don't like odd numbers.
I feel odd numbers.
No, I mean, personally, I have no dog in the fight
and I don't feel about it any type of way
when it comes to myself and my lot.
But just overall, an overarching feeling of doom and gloom.
For reals?
Yeah, because it's an odd number.
I just don't like odd numbers.
I get it.
I have a look.
I'm not optimistic, but I have like kind of a tepid feeling
about this year.
I feel like not much will transpire.
I'll reserve the predictions to keep the expectations low.
So maybe they'll be exceeded down the line.
That's smart.
That's always a good way to play it.
That's a good philosophy of life in general.
Yeah, that's my advice to everyone.
Lower your standards.
Yeah.
Get shorter, which is really what this pod is all about.
So taking what you get and not making a fuss.
But hey, I am proud to say that I've already knocked off
one of my New Year's resolutions, which is to finally frame
some of the art I have laying around in this like rolly tubes.
Yeah, I went to frame bridge Williamsburg.
I don't know if you've ever heard of this place.
No, I don't I have posters tacked to my walls.
Like I'm yeah, it's one of these like Neolib millennial pink online
services for framing.
Well, that's something that needed to be frankly.
Yeah.
I mean, I was standing in their like sparse, undesigned offices
in Williamsburg and seething with jealousy at their business plan.
Because whoever came up with this idea is a genius.
Like what a great idea.
Because it's so hard to get things framed.
Yeah.
And they'll like really walk you through the process in like a fun
and gamified way and they take a picture of your art like on the
table and mock it up on an iPad so you can sort of see what it looks
like with the mat and the frame and everything.
Okay.
It's incredibly satisfying, Dasha.
Maybe I'll get that Morrissey poster framed.
All right.
I got two Morrissey slash Smith's posters framed a pre-apic print
that I bought in Florence probably like 15 or 20 years ago.
And that infamous writer rips newspaper art of Bernie Sanders that just
says Jew period at the bottom.
Welcome to my art collection.
And it's gonna look so good.
I learned about something called floating.
What's that?
I can guess.
It's yeah.
It's very self-explanatory.
It's like instead of matting it, they suspend it above the mat on a
slightly raised platform so you can see the shadow of the artwork.
It looks very chic.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Is that did you get them any of these pieces floated?
I got the Bernie Sanders one floated because the edges are so
tattered.
It's gonna look very archival.
I see.
Yeah.
That's my posters are frayed.
Right.
So you might want to get them floated.
Okay.
But then I have to hang them.
Well, that's right.
I feel like my man's gears are going to get really jammed up after
the framing.
Hanging is the easy part.
Is it?
Yeah.
It is like once you once you cross that bridge, once I hang my
art, it's over for you host.
It's over.
I'm embarrassed to let people into my apartment because it's so
sparsely decorated.
No, I think your apartment's lovely.
It's fine.
It's it's okay.
But it's not a salon.
Yeah.
No, but I'm going to I intend to turn it into a salon like
atmosphere.
Yeah, I love that.
Complete with beautiful framed prints.
Mm hmm.
I didn't make a lot of I wanted to stop biting my nails, but
I'm not really trying.
I feel like you say that every year though.
I say that every year.
I don't think I'll ever stop.
Mm hmm.
Maybe I will.
Maybe this maybe this year.
I can do one thing.
I mean, it's like when you meet new people and they say their
name to you and it's like in one era of the other and you like
immediately forget what their name is and then like spend the
rest of the evening not listening to them and coming up with
like creative ways of finding out their name.
That's like biting your nails.
Yeah, like you really well because you really just like if
you want to remember somebody's name you just have to commit
to beforehand.
Yeah, you have to really know you have to really commit.
Yeah.
An exercise discipline, which is hard, which is why the being
dry is not happening for me.
Dry Jan.
Yeah.
No.
Good.
Whatever.
Fuck it.
You don't need to quit drinking.
You're fine.
I don't feel bad.
My New Year's resolution is to be more compassionate and
forgiving toward myself.
Amen.
As somebody recently told me, treat yourself like you would
treat somebody you love.
That's really your, did your therapist say that?
No.
Oh.
The girl in a group chat.
Well, that's sweet.
Yeah, I was like, oh wow, I've really never thought of it that
way.
My therapist said to me today, real agency is knowing how
you're feeling.
Well, yeah.
But this is sort of like a less articulate version of the
thing you said, which is like be vigilant about your desires.
Think about it.
Oh, that is so, I have not been vigilant about my
desires, to be honest.
I've been real.
I don't even know why I do anything sometimes.
It's really just been like senseless.
Time feels like it's moving slowly too.
It does.
For me, kind of, yeah, every day is a very little trial.
Yeah.
A slog.
Rife with various paranoias.
It's been, it's been up and down, you know.
Yeah, but 2023, getting off to a good start, by the way.
How so?
Well, the thing that really gave me joy was the
Taleb the Peterson bitch fight over Lex Friedman's
book list.
Yes.
Peterson, would I call him an idiot?
He said, Peterson, you idiot, stay out of this.
2023 is going to be the year that Nassim Nicholas Taleb
unblocks.
Don't get your hopes up, sweetheart.
You have to just make a non-account to follow him from.
No, I know I had one for a while, but then I locked myself
out of it and I think it's probably over.
I don't know how to get it back.
I think everyone knew what it was, too.
I think it was called like neoliberal girl or something.
It was very clearly.
I wanted to get caught.
And it was like me tweeting, like Alex Jones did nothing
wrong.
I hate women.
Yeah, like the most popular stuff.
But I don't know how to get your real thoughts.
Yeah.
I don't know how to get back on my CC the Siamese Instagram.
Oh, sad.
Oops.
Well, I'm a mother now.
I don't need to have a weird.
It's giving childless pet count.
Right.
You don't need an Instagram for your cat anymore.
No.
Make one for your baby.
But I've been playing with Lenny the baby.
Lenny the racist baby.
He's like, crime is really up on my block.
Dude, I got scared getting out the Uber on your street.
Why, today?
Yeah.
There's drug dealers out there.
There are.
Yeah.
I know what they're up to.
They're Bengali, so it's safe.
I don't know.
I got scared.
There's like a man wearing a sarong pacing up and down
my blog.
But I swear to God, you know, that guy who beat up
that other guy over the summer.
It was like a gay hate crime.
The shirtless method who beat the shit out of that gay guy
who's tertiary in our friend group.
Yeah, he's like friend adjacent.
So I think that guy is still on the loose.
And I'm pretty sure he asked me for a cigarette today.
And of course, I dutifully complied.
Yeah.
But he doesn't seem like a real homeless.
He has like too many outfit changes.
He was shirtless in that, in that video.
Well, he was shirtless the whole summer.
But now I saw the video.
I'm pretty sure I've ID'd him.
And he has a lot of like cool outfits.
Really?
What's he rocking nowadays?
He has this kind of like tattered cream colored surfer
hoodie that he wears.
He has like a camo anorak that he wears.
He has multiple pairs of Sambas.
Multiple pairs.
I don't even have multiple pairs of Sambas.
That's what I'm saying.
My hunch is that he's like low-key a rich kid
who has like a loft somewhere around here
and comes out periodically to like score drugs
and hate crime gay guys.
Did you see the video of the crime?
I did.
I saw like screen caps of the video.
Like stills.
The stills don't really do it justice.
Like the way he was beating the shit out of this guy
was very like crack head.
It was definitely.
Well, he's definitely a crack head.
I'm just saying that he's like a laptop crack head.
Not like a sub-crack grant.
Okay.
Well, I think they did catch him
and then probably let him out on bail reform.
Yeah, he's around.
Stay vigilant out there y'all.
My other New Year's resolution is to move out of this neighborhood.
Yeah, you think you think you'll finally do it?
I have to.
Yeah.
I have no choice.
It's getting it's tough out here.
I'm rational.
Where are you going to go?
I don't know.
You E.S.U.W.S.
Yeah.
Somewhere with like wide clean well lit boulevards.
I also kind of want to go uptown and Maddie's really anti.
What?
Says it won't make me happy.
It won't.
I just my.
Nothing's going to make you happy.
I know.
Another big life lesson.
But my apartment, my apartment's nice in the spring, summer and fall,
but it's really depressing in the winter.
And it's like just there's no temperature regulation.
It's always like my ceilings like caving in.
It's like dark.
It's too dark to it's not a good environment.
So I can't do another year.
Yeah.
But you know, I mean, everybody in New York,
even the ultra rich basically live like dogs.
I know.
It's pretty hilarious.
People will have like these caramel lofts with like 10 foot couches
and still like be living in the ghetto.
It's true.
Well, that's why we have to move to praxis.
Oh, yeah.
That's our ticket out the hood.
So I can post pics of prostes on the holidays.
We have no we're going to be the prostitutes.
Anna, that's the.
Everyone needs a job in the in the utopia.
Yeah.
Like, you know, that's not so hard being like a data scientist.
I wish I never fucking found out about the actual.
I know.
My hook will be being like a 40 year old mother.
Like a kid who wants a job.
No, I'll pay you not to.
That's how I'm going to become number one top earner and only
fan.
I'm going to I feel like I could have a lucrative phone sex
operator career, but I don't I can that's I can do that remotely.
So I can I can move wherever.
Yeah, they don't need to know it's me or like this girl sounds
like Dasha Necrossova who played comfrey.
Most known for playing comfrey on the comfrey in her.
I'm on the white.
I'm on the white now, not cocaine on white.
Oh my God, I'm sorry because Nicola said that red puts you
to sleep and white keeps you away.
And we're going to test drive that.
I don't think so.
I think sugar content is higher in white.
Why gives me heartburn and headaches?
I don't like it as much as red.
Yeah, I don't either.
But that's why I'm not really big on champagne.
I'm not like a champagne girl.
It's it's like Oscar the grouch says best thing about champagne
is that you only have to drink it once a year.
I like I drink I drink champagne.
I do like it, but I like when it tastes almost like perfume,
you know.
Yeah, but that's what gives you the migraine the next day.
Yeah, I know.
You have to like double up on your dose of anti-depressant
just crunch it and snort it.
They're working off label like my doctor prescribed.
Hmm. Should we talk about Lex Friedman's book list?
Yeah, I already forgot what it was.
I don't know how to pull it up.
I bet we can find it.
Yeah, it was like off the top of my head.
It was like Brave New World, Brothers Karamazov, Fight Club.
Every Steven Pinker book.
I wish I didn't know who Lex Friedman was either.
I know.
I know.
I hate this undignified low class timeline.
I wish I didn't know who Lex Friedman or Andrew Tate or I wish
I could unknown, but there's no going back truly.
Oh, Andrew Tate also got arrested for sex trafficking.
You have to admit that one of the best things that's happened
so far in 2023 is this Taleb Peterson.
Taleb Klopp.
Yeah.
Was there more than him just calling him an idiot?
Well, he called Lex Friedman an idiot first.
Yes.
He said that he had a many list as evidence for why he will
never have Lex on his podcast in spite of 10 attempts by Lex.
Come on. Here's the list to 2001 Space Odyssey.
He's reading one book a day for seven plus days.
Wait, one book a day?
Oh, wait.
He really is a genius.
No, this is an old one book a week for the 52 weeks of the year.
That was the idea.
Um, Nicholas Taleb, first of all, that's fake.
Yeah.
He's not going to be able to even maintain that level of stupid.
That's the worst.
That's the worst part.
Um, is that he like gamified reading and he was stupid.
It's 1984.
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
Brave New World.
Um, it's like a redundant.
So it's like every normie mainstream book about the stranger dystopia.
Mm-hmm.
Did he not?
So he didn't go to college.
She didn't read these books.
No, he's rereading them.
He read, he claims he's read most of them, not all of them.
What?
Okay.
2001 Space Odyssey.
Just watch the movie.
Old man in the sea.
The art of war respect.
Man search for meaning.
Rich dad, poor dad.
That's going to be an annoying week when he reads man search for meaning.
Uh, sapiens, metamorphosis and hunger artists.
Okay.
Short ones.
The plague, uh, fight club, the little prince book for children and the
brothers Karamazov, Siddhartha Dune, and then Frankenstein by Mary Shelley.
Storm of steel.
Son and steel.
Do you think Lex has ever read Bronze Age mindset?
No.
But he should, but he should.
I think it would open his eyes and change his life.
Like it did for me.
Yeah.
He needs to bump that one up to the top of the list before he,
he goes any further reading brother.
Well, that, that was one of the points to lab made.
Was that anyone who thinks they can like read and digest like the brothers
Karamazov in a week is surely a, a dunce.
True.
And that's the dumbest part is that it's the weak break.
It's not even, I don't even begrudge someone for reading fight club.
It's fine.
It's like also a lot of people pretend to have read these books and have not.
They're like the Ta-Nehisi book letters to my son or whatever that
everybody has on their bookshelf, but no one has ever read that became
like a liberal talking point when it came out in like 2008 or 2015 or whenever
that was.
I don't begrudge anybody for reading any book.
You should see the books that are, I'm Amazon priming.
It's surprising that they're even allowed on Amazon prime.
Dude, I was going through my books a couple of days ago and I have a lot
of messed up books.
I just have a lot of dumb like weird self published Catholic book like stuff
that like, I'm like, I can't believe I was really like read even parts of
this.
This is so I have a book about how like the Iraq war was justified on like
Catholic this like traditionalist Catholic group.
Some guy was like, it's weird.
Like they're all like self published little.
You gotta stay away from the group authored books.
Oh yeah.
No, I definitely don't.
I think you should read whatever books you want.
No shame in the game.
Just like you should not publicly disclose which books you're reading.
What books you're going to read.
It'd be one thing also.
If he was like, these are the books I read this year.
Like, okay, itemized the list, whatever, but being like, this is the book.
I'm reading every week for it's so what's this guy's problem.
Well, saying that announcing what you're going to do in advance is like a
surefire way to get dunked on.
But I think the real reason people are dunking on Lex has nothing to do with
the normy tier nature of his list or the fact that he's gamifying reading,
which are all worthy takes by the way.
And it probably doesn't even have anything to do with the fact that he seems
totally astroturfed as many people have pointed out.
Oh, so well, this guy like popped out of nowhere with like organic audience in
the millions, millions of Lex Friedman fans must die.
But it's not even that.
I mean, okay, my there's also is that there's a whole other universe that
we're not privy to here on racist Twitter called YouTube, which is heaming
with normies.
And well, you also remember when, yeah, you also thought Sam
Bankman Fried kind of came out of nowhere, but he there's people, you
know, there's those all sorts of stuff we don't know about.
These guys are around.
And my petty feeble female brain doesn't like to jump to the conspiracy theory
first.
And I like to search for the more rational and plausible explanation, which
is again, not a lot of normies are digesting this content on YouTube.
I'm not saying Lex Friedman is not astroturfed, but I'm saying there's
no proof right now that he's astroturfed.
I don't think he's astroturfed to what end for what though?
What is he to be like a middling Jewish personality?
What is the what's the con?
What's the long game here with legs?
Well, he's kind of like the apotheosis of the IDW in that he has this very
kind of boyish manlet physiognomy of like a Ben Shapiro or Sam Harris and
kind of devotion to quote heterodox ideas that are really just Ben sitting,
you know, the intellectual dog.
That's still a thing.
Yeah, well, he's like the kind of and also this idea that he's like has a stem
pedigree when he really seems to do a whole lot of nothing like he stands in
front of a chalkboard that has like EMC squared scribbled on it.
I guess I just I found I guess I heard his name when Kanye went on this show.
Yeah, he got people.
People are bemused because also Kanye has been quiet, dude.
He has been quiet.
Is he okay dead?
Is they they lobotomize him?
Like what happened?
He's strapped to a gurney somewhere.
I think I said this already, but yeah, he has all these like big name guests
and people don't know how he managed to snag them and whatever.
He's true, but he's he's well connected enough in the media and MIT.
I don't know.
Yeah.
And then there's like the questionable MIT link, whatever.
I'm not interested in any of that.
I'm really not.
I can't take it.
I don't have the bandwidth.
Yeah.
I don't I don't care to unpack like the conspiracy theory behind Lex Friedman's
meteoric rise to online fame.
Well, haters make you famous.
So why do I and he has a lot of haters?
People don't think about that.
He probably thinks that the huge amount of haters he has means that he's like
on the righteous path.
He probably sleeps pretty well at night.
I bet he does.
But what does he do that's so so bad really?
Besides be annoying?
Well, my thing is that he's literally the male Ayala.
He provides a prostitution like service podcast of being intellectual.
Yeah.
And well, I don't mean to knock on Ayala because what is expected and therefore
forgivable in women is completely unforgivable in men, i.e.
being an emotional terrorist.
That's my issue with Lex Friedman.
He's a spiritual extortionist and emotional terrorist with his like, yeah,
he's a little like saccharine love shit.
Yeah, we ain't buying it.
At least Ayala, I feel like knows she's super annoying.
I think that she probably does have some mindfulness that she is like extremely
unpleasant and leans into it.
She's a woman. She can get away with anything.
So true.
That's how it be for us gals.
But Lex Friedman, unfortunately by virtue of being a man has a higher
responsibility or duty that he's not off the hook.
Yeah.
By being a huge like lacrimose sinister fag.
You know, people would like him a lot more if he clapped back to the haters.
It's true if he's stooped down to our level.
Yeah, they would be like, oh, you're like a human being.
Would we would you have him on red scare?
Yeah, totally.
Lex, I would get on get on the show.
I have a lot of nice things to say about Lex Friedman.
He's Russian Jewish.
Okay, we like that like that.
You think he played chess?
He probably plays chess.
I happen to think that he's extremely hot in the face.
I'm sorry.
He's cute.
Dude, you know me, you know, I beat fornicating with Jews.
Definitely passable in my a one for me.
No, no, don't even not even a second thought.
I like the suit.
I think it's nice.
He wears a suit to podcast.
He's proof that being a short man is not a death sentence.
And you can, in fact, excel and exceed.
Yeah, he's not six four.
Like, I felt like Shania Twain when he dropped that knowledge on us.
I was like, that don't impress me much.
Sorry, six four is tall.
It's tall.
No, it's objectively tall and therefore objectively impressive.
But I'm not.
You're not a tall fetish.
I tall guys mean either.
Really?
I mean, there is something nice about it, but I'm it's not a standard
that I hold any of my partner.
I'm not like, he needs to be 50.
Yeah, I don't.
That's it takes all kinds, you know, but it is nice to be with a man
who's who's tall, sure.
Yeah.
And envelopes you with his NBA level wingspan.
Sure.
The reason people are responding to Lex Friedman negatively is
that he's anxious and super silly is whoa.
It's true.
It's what super silly is like haughty condescending morally superior.
They can feel it.
It's like the reason Andrew Tay got got isn't because he's human trafficking.
Well, that is why he got caught.
Well, technically, or like speaking truth to power or in the manosphere.
Yeah, or yeah, reprising old manosphere talking points or because
he's a black man doing his thing and like our society as white supremacists.
It's because everybody can feel that he's spiritually and physically chinless.
Amen.
They don't like him.
No, they don't like him and they don't like Lex Friedman either.
And it's good.
It's good to have a little pushback and some haters.
But if you're like almost unanimously disliked.
Yeah, well, I we have a lot of haters and we do, but I'm very optimistic and utopian
in this way actually, because I think like if, if most people have a certain opinion
about somebody, everything is right in the world.
Like everybody hates Meghan Markle.
It has nothing to do with her being a woman or black.
It's just she's an unpleasant and grating person who's also anxious and super silly is.
Yeah.
And she's not even people can feel it.
Is she even that haughty?
She just seems like really people can tell when you're in.
Yeah, I thought you were going to say is she even that?
Is she even a haughty?
You know, my New Year's resolution is my other one is that I haven't been doing
this for a while now, but I will not ever again be publicly opining on a woman's
appearance unless it's strictly positive.
Hmm.
Okay.
This is the new mature Anna.
What's the, what, what prompted the change?
Gunshots.
I think it's like no fireworks.
I think it's like a tire exploding on the FDR.
What prompted it?
Yeah, that's your way.
People don't take well to it.
And they think that you're very bitter and jealous.
They confuse your aesthetic critique for scoring of others for existential
malice instead of tossed off snark.
And I don't want that energy in 2023.
I think I'll do the same.
Yeah, branding as a liberal.
I don't think I've said anything.
Well, you said specifically tweet.
You still will critique women's appearance.
No, no, I won't say anything negative.
Come on.
I won't say there's no point.
Fair enough.
I've learned the hard way.
Okay.
I've learned the hard way that it's wrong to say that AOC's quote big
naturals look like two rotting pumpkins and cheesecloth.
Never again.
They don't even.
They look, I think AOC is cute.
I have nothing against it.
She is cute.
Except for her politics.
Um, what, oh, hey, we're not going to get into it here.
Okay, so I'm trying to drag me down with you into your talks.
Dark and bottomless pit.
I don't need to, I don't need to go there.
No, but plain and simple.
I realize people don't like it and they don't like it for a reason.
I know.
I feel like threatened and endangered and there's no point in doing it
because it actually like contributes nothing to the discourse.
Cause a lot of people just sound off in private.
A lot of people be ugly.
Yeah.
That goes to that saying, but.
Hmm.
Let's read.
I feel like I should have more nearest resolutions, but maybe I'm, I don't know.
Maybe somewhere deep down.
I know I'm doing the right things.
I'm doing everything right.
I'm just going to keep, keep doing me.
Um, people respond most of all, like intuitively, instinctually to insincerity.
Yeah.
And people can feel that Lex is hiding something and being insincere and the form
that that takes are these conspiracy theories about him, like being astroturfed
or like funded by dark money or whatever.
This is all irrelevant.
Yeah, I haven't even really heard these theories, but they're all over the place.
I'm sure.
But to me, that's like splitting hairs also.
I just, Matthew was like, are you guys going to talk about the speaker of the house?
And I was like, what?
I was like, I don't even know what the speaker of the house is.
I don't either.
Congress.
My New Year's resolution is to finally commit to memory the difference between the
Senate and the Congress and the house.
The house is the Senate and the Congress, right?
The house houses the other.
Congress, no, no, Congress.
The Congress is the house of the House of Representatives and the Senate,
yeah, which is two each state.
The house of the master's tools.
Yeah.
The house of the master's tools.
It houses all the masters.
The hard house makes good Senate.
Hard times make tall men, tall men make good times.
Good times make short men.
Short men make hard times.
There's something there.
Yeah.
We, so we can talk about this short people article in the New York Times that,
uh, that sailor was, was posting about, um, and I read today to prepare for the,
for the show.
And I, it shocked me the short people article.
How tall Steve Salier is, of course.
I mean, that's why he's always crouching in that closet by blazers from 1984.
Good for him.
No, just, I didn't see, I don't know.
I just went into it, you know, like, I like to take in a work of art, you know,
it's just an open, pure mind.
Um, and I really, the, the like climate change apocalyptic shift in the piece where
I made the point that being short is going to be advantageous because,
uh, we need to be conserving resources due to overpopulation and global warming.
Um, that I did not see.
Um, that I did not see coming.
I would, I thought it would have been something more akin to like the atypical
anorexia piece where it was like maybe politicizing short people as a marginalized group or something.
New, uh, pro-immigration, pro-obesity piece just dropped.
Um, short people are disgusting.
I was, I know, I know, I know, it's so true.
No, they're, I mean, uh, Randy Newman.
Short people had it right.
No reason.
I'm really into the musical experimentation now because I thought I did a really good
job using those Gainsburg songs as the intro and outro.
Oh.
So I might, I might fuck around and throw Randy Newman into the intro instead of tattoo.
Nice.
Yeah, let's switch it up.
Sure.
Short people, they got little hands and little eyes.
They walk around telling great big lies.
They got little noses and little tiny teeth and wear platform shoes on their nasty little feet.
Yeah.
Keep going.
They got little baby legs and they went slow.
You got to pick them up just to say hello.
They got little cars that go beep, beep, beep.
They got little voices going beep, beep, beep.
They got grubby little fingers and dirty little minds.
They're going to get you every time.
Short people got no reason to live.
So true.
That's such a nice way of saying millions must die.
A really timeless piece.
Yeah.
From Randy Newman.
Yeah, I love Randy Newman.
He's a nepo baby.
Is he?
Who are his parents?
Paul Newman?
No, he wishes.
His dad, I think, was a major studio composer.
Nice.
Well, when nepotism goes right.
I have a lot of comments about this NYT op-ed.
There has never been a better time to be short by Mara Altman.
In it, she argues that being short is, of course, not only genetically advantageous,
but morally virtuous for climate change reasons.
Yeah, because they use less resources.
And she, I guess, was put on some,
elected by her parents, hormone treatment when she was a particularly short child.
Right, yeah.
She injected herself with something called humatrope,
which is a human growth hormone for three years.
Now as the mother of twins who are, quote, small for their age,
she intends to let nature take its course and not intervene in their heights.
I found a 2014 interview with someone called Mara Altman,
who I'm assuming is the same Mara Altman from the op-ed.
Is it about IVF?
Yeah, and in it, she outlines her doubts about having a baby,
and she submits herself to like a series of experiments,
which include taking a prenatal yoga class,
renting a life like baby doll, wearing a fake pregnancy belly,
and she even manages to write a Kindle book about her doubts,
about having a baby even though she is married and cohabitating.
Okay.
My first thought was how much you want to bet that those twins are IVF.
The irony of like not wanting to inject your kids.
Exactly.
Not that you should, but...
No, I know.
But it reminded me of...
To talk of nature taking its course and overpopulation.
Yeah, a while back, I mentioned,
I think it was over the summer many episodes ago,
this anecdote my Syrian Jewish girlfriend told me,
and many in the Sephardic community give their children puberty blockers
to postpone the onset of puberty in order to maximize their height.
And the irony of that being that these people are notoriously conservative
and very strenuously object to using puberty blockers
in pediatric gender reassignment.
Right.
But will, of course, selectively administer it to their children
if it means like gaining a few inches
and presumably certain advantages in the marriage pool.
But the other bigger irony, of course,
is the New York Times is reporting kind of skeptically and condescendingly
on the practice of parents giving their children growth hormones
but are on the whole very favorable about giving them puberty blockers.
Many ironies.
I have a lot of quotes.
She cites some pseudo-science.
She says ages ago when the necessity of defending oneself cropped up daily
if not hourly, tall people could more easily protect their families
and bring home some woolly rhino flank, our success as individuals
does not depend on beating up other people or animals
even if it did an era of guns and drones being tall now makes you a bigger target.
Come on, that's crazy.
Then she cites some real science on average short people live longer
and have lower incidence of cancer.
One theory suggests this is because with fewer cells
there's less likelihood that something goes wrong.
She talks about how others go to extremes in pursuit of a few extra inches
and more people are spending as much as, excuse me, $150,000
to get excruciating limb-lengthing surgeries.
Ronan Farrell.
Huh?
Ronan Farrell.
Yeah.
Sorry.
New buccal fat.
Just drawn.
But this piece was even a bridge too far for Madaglacias.
What did Maddie say?
He called it neo-malthusianism in response to this quote,
short people don't just save resources,
but as resources become scarcer because of the Earth's growing population
and global warming, they may also be best suited for long-term survival
and not just because more of us will be able to jam into spaceships
when we're forced off this planet, we wrecked.
Yuval Nol Harari and his book, Sapiens, wrote about population.
On Lex Friedman's Readiness.
I know.
It sounds like a book that's on Lex Friedman's Readiness.
It's a raster term.
Yuval Nol Harari and his book, Sapiens,
wrote about a population of early humans
who inhabited an island called Flores.
Because of a rise in sea level,
the island was cut off from other land.
Big people who need a lot of food died first,
Mr. Harari wrote.
It's a book.
It's a fictional book?
Sapiens, it's one of these, I think,
like, actually don't be so doomsday
because we've made a lot of progress.
Steven Pinker us, like, airport books.
I liked when she talks to her former endocrinologist
and asks him why parents whose children
have no underlying medical conditions
sought growth hormone treatment for them.
He said the pursuit of height made sense
in capitalistic society.
Yeah.
Every doubt blamed capitalism.
Yeah, everything is big.
He said the buildings, the businesses.
Quote ends there.
But she elaborates that he went on to explain
that parents reflect the mindset
that bigger is better when envisioning
their offspring.
This twisted bitch.
She surveys another endocrinologist.
What a lunatic thing to say.
Here's a thought experiment.
Substitute every instance of tall
with obese.
Think about it.
Not beautiful.
I'm sorry.
It's not.
Beautiful.
But I was only half Peter's anybody.
Stay out of it.
The pro immigration, pro obesity thing.
Clearly, clearly tall people are the real problem.
And we have to whip out our machetes
and cut all of them down.
And it has everything to do with climate change
and diminishing resources and nothing at all
to do with the fact that tall people
are just physically more attractive
and commanding.
Nothing at all to do with our contempt
for natural hierarchy
that can't be hacked.
They can't be hacked by social engineering
for word games.
Well, what do you make of Steve
Saylor's response to Maddie Iglesias
where he said,
you and I are both very tall,
but I find female prejudice against short men
is a major social problem that contributes
to the low marriage rate.
But these days, nobody dares criticize
female bigotry against the shorter half
of the male population,
even though we should get over it.
I mean,
I agree.
I think women's tastes are also probably
very algorithmized now
because they're fundamentally also
and contagious.
And if one bitch says
under 6'1 need not apply,
so does every other bitch.
I'm not like the other girls.
I only date 5'9 and under.
I don't need
a man to be over
six feet tall.
I guess, I mean, I do have
an aversion to
men lids that feels
Well, shorter than you.
That's my
deal breaker. I can't.
Well, you're shorter than I am.
Yeah, I mean, I'm short, but I
average in America.
I would not want to date a man
who's shorter than me.
Yeah, but you're
of average. I'm slightly
taller.
I'm taller than
my preferred average height.
Exactly. Yeah, so
I there is, I mean
whatever the heart
wants, what it wants,
I could, you know, I could fall in love
with anyone.
If they were race, if they were racist,
I mean,
there's really, you know,
I don't know.
You guys six foot tall model
ex-girlfriend had this crazy story
about how she met a man in a French
cafe who was like so
shockingly handsome and witty and she fell
in love with him within moments of meeting
him and they talked for hours at this
quaint little table and then he got up
and he was like five, six and she was like
Oh, that's
tough. That's tough. And that makes her
sound like she's a callous bitch, but I get
it. No, that's totally
a normal standard reasonable
response. And I was surprised to see
Sailor, I don't know, because
that feels like such a
well, he's humble bragging.
Well, he didn't volunteer
the information I asked.
Well, he did volunteer the information.
He said I'm very tall. He said I'm very tall.
He said I'm very tall, but
it's nice of him to advocate. I get
maybe, I don't know, but it seems
very subtle and tactful because he didn't advertise
his exact height, but he did
technically say he was tall, but
it seemed atypical
for him, you know, within the realm
of human biodiversity
to have such a prescriptive
sort of take about what one
ought to, you know,
what traits one ought
to desire in
someone.
I mean, it seems the following Sailor's
logic, which I think he certainly
actually believes in because what you see is
what you get with him, there's
a wealth of
diversity among humans, and so
there will be a wealth of diversity of sexual
preferences.
Yeah, but that's not what he was saying.
What was he saying? He was saying that women
There's a bias against short ends.
Yes, and that women, we need
to address female bigotry.
Well, how do you address something that's also
probably fairly natural and instinctual?
Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that was
why I was a little... The lady does protest too much.
I don't know. And you don't have any problems
in that department. See, you're just
the right height.
All these women in New York, specifically these
two women are flooding my DMs.
They're asking me about Carpatho-Rusyns.
They're asking me why
some people are good at tennis.
He did pawn me off on
Razeem Khan when I asked him about Carpatho.
I was like, so what do you think about Carpatho-Rusyns
real or not?
I split into Steve's DMs once
and asked him a
question about crime stats
and his response was just probably
period.
I asked him
questions about... I did, I was asking him why
slobs were good at tennis
and he told me
that Australians
and people from
California used to be good
at tennis because they could play
year round. Because they're tall.
No, because of the weather.
This is basically an anti-white
article.
What?
The short people article.
I thought that it was a little anti-black
honestly. It's pro-Semitic
anti-white. Well, Steve Saylor
had that interesting statistic that
actually African Americans
are shorter on average than white
people but have more variations.
So there's more extremely tall black people
and more extremely short black people.
Which is interesting.
I mean, I have no comment on that.
It doesn't really say one thing to another.
But this is the kind of stuff I live for
just like kind of neutral
factual observations.
Human bio diversity.
I ascribe no value
judgment to it.
Me neither.
How could I? Yeah, it is
what it is. It's a fact of life.
This is one of those articles that's like
basically
there's a quote that I'll read.
I'll get to it.
Because I think it really just like gets to the heart
of the matter.
The short are also inherent conservationists.
Which is more crucial than ever
in this world of 8 billion.
Thomas Samaras who has been studying
height for 40 years and is known
in small circles, no one intended
as the godfather of shrink think.
That's not very catchy.
A widely unknown philosophy.
That considers small superior
calculated that if we kept our proportions
the same, but we're just 10%
shorter in America, we would save
87 million tons of food
per year. Not to mention trillions
of gallons of water, quadrillions
of BT use of energy and millions
of tons of trash.
When you mate with shorter people, you're
potentially saving the planet by shrinking
the needs of subsequent generations.
Lowering the height minimum for perspective
partners on your dating profile
step toward a greener planet.
So true queen.
That's exactly what I tell myself when I
end up dating yet another guy who's
5'9 and under.
I'm saving the planet and conserving
energy.
Um
That is demented.
But this article is basically
another one of these classic NYT
articles about promoting austerity.
They're getting you to accept like a lower
quality of life
in a diminished range of options.
You're dying because you're too tall.
By convincing you that you actually are a good person.
Why don't we talk about how fat people need more food?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like clearly
the real burden in our society, the real money
suck. I live like a fucking dog, dude.
I know. But clearly it's tall people.
I eat once a day.
Not obese people or illegal immigrants.
What are you talking about?
It's tall people.
I don't drink water.
You bitch.
I'm
chronically dehydrated.
Leave me out of it.
Leave me and Steve out of it, okay?
Are you tall for a woman?
You're like at the cutoff. You're at the cusp.
Here's my thing.
If there was a short people
genocide, I would absolutely be
shipped off to short people Auschwitz.
But you would possibly make the cut.
I think I would. I don't think.
I definitely don't think I'm short.
You know, you're not short.
But I'm
petite.
So people
kind of think I'm smaller than I am
because I was a just small frame.
But actually
I'm, you know, I'm five
seven. And like the question also is not whether
people should be shorter or should
be promoting shortness. It's like
we're already there with all the seed
oils and the hunching in front
of your computer or smartphone. Even
tall people are shorter because they're
perpetually hunched over and have shitty
posture. Exactly.
Like we're only getting shorter
uglier, fatter, more
retarded, more low IQ,
more bad at reading comprehension.
It's not. I just want you to
shorter attention span.
Yeah.
To plead a dopamine.
I hate this phrase, but they want
you to eat the bugs.
They literally do.
One could really conclude
that they seem to want us to be
eating those bugs.
You'll owe nothing
and you'll be happy and you'll be short
and you'll fuck short people and your kids will be
fucking short and sick and weird
and autistic
and you'll fucking like it. Okay.
And it's also like objectively true
as like the country gets
less northern European
and it's ethnic composition. It's going to
get probably shorter on the whole.
Is that true? I think so probably.
No.
I still
I don't feel like there's that much
what's the word or what's the word
that you're allowed to say.
Miscegenation.
Is that the bad one?
Or
inner, inner breeding?
Yeah.
I mean, there's, there's probably going to be
I mean, that's sort of what
America was founded on. It's kind of inevitable, right?
I don't think that's
I think the majority of people
still group
with, you know
people that are similar to them.
But the country is like just objectively
demographically getting less white.
I don't know. I don't know if that correlates
to shorter
people but if you're talking about like immigration
from like South America probably, right?
Again, I don't mean this
in a pejorative
or judgmental way.
I'm just spitballing here.
The other thing is like
I read somewhere that
American life expectancy has fallen
for the second year in a row.
That's not surprising, I guess.
So why are we
talking about
you should aspire to be
a short person with a shorter life span
you aspire to be dead
so you can conserve
resources.
And
Libs love to
cope
about their perceived deficits
like being five foot even as the author says.
It made me sad
when she said her kids eat like gerbils
and how horrible
people are.
It's because you're neurotic.
People are proud. She was like
criticizing people who are proud
of their children growing tall
and brag about how they have to buy them new shoes
and how much they eat
and she said my kids eat like
gerbils and they're tiny.
My kids have been wearing the same shoe size
for three years.
It's not at all failure to thrive syndrome.
What is wrong with
wanting to see your
kids grow big and strong?
I'm like Thomas Chatterton Williams.
I'm proud that my child
is blonder than me.
I think his hair will get darker
and he's going to end up looking
like Michael Tracey or Anatoly Carlin, I know.
I don't
say that.
I think they're both cute.
I think we're both on the record
saying many times
that Michael Tracey is cute.
You think we had crushes on him or something
and maybe a lot of times we say it.
This is like another thing that
white Anglo people have a hard time
with.
Every other ethnic,
racial group
speaks openly and frankly
about these matters
and aspires for a better life
for their kids
which implies
that their kids grow bigger and stronger
than them.
There will be
an abundance mindset
about
there being enough resources
that they will have access to
to sustain their families.
They want their kids to
have access to good schools
and
nutritious food
that helps them grow
and they don't view
being short as
some kind of moral
referendum
but as a circumstantial thing.
Liberals be crazy.
That's why I love reading The New York Times
because everything they churn out is such a work of art.
I see a lot of people throwing around
takes about how
neither left nor right
can produce good art
or good culture anymore which is true
but The New York Times is really at the vanguard
of producing good art and culture I think.
They're on to something.
They're doing their thing.
I don't think ideologs should make art
frankly.
Or have children.
They shouldn't do anything
procreative
political
ideology
you're probably not going to make
good art.
I wonder who came up with this think piece
where they were like okay we're going to hire
a tiny
small
woman on the horn.
Was Liz Bruyne not available?
She's medically short.
They were like we need a spinner
to write an article
about climate change austerity next.
I love
my height honestly.
You have a good height.
You and my sister actually have the same
height. I don't love my height
but I have to say it's never kept me up at night.
I don't think about
my height ever.
You're well proportioned.
You're of
I consider you to be of average height
if maybe a little on the shorter side.
I photograph tall.
You do photograph tall?
Literally no one who's
I'm not claiming we're normal or sane
or well adjusted.
But no one who's
like a grown adult
ever thinks about a their height
or be the height of their
perspective partner.
I think women think about the height
of their perspective partner is
I think that there is women do want to
couple with
tall men
typically. Yeah, I want a couple
with a man who has a couple
inches over me.
The whole like under six one need not
apply is also cope because it just
cuts off a bunch of perspective
options. Exactly. And in that way
that the
female bigotry is
extreme and should be
relaxed.
You're spiting yourself by spiting others.
Well, it's also I think
the issue is less even
I think with women's
sexual romantic preferences
and with the way that
people attempt to couple
which is through
these algorithmic
services and apps and stuff
sexual frame bridges.
Yeah, where they can
make these kinds of
demands and specifications, whereas
when people meet organically
they have less like barriers
for entry because
you are seeing people as like human
beings who have like
special charisma
and you know
sex appeal that transcends
just like categorical
metrics.
Yeah, when you finally
meet somebody in person, you're like,
who is this weird Croatian fascist
get away from my friend
group.
Very tall, though.
But it makes sense, you know
but like, okay, how tall are your boyfriends
on average like six foot?
They're tall, but they're not
prohibitively tall. No, no, they're not
like Steve Saylor's. No, they are
and where do I find a man
like that?
No, yeah, they're probably
about six foot, but I've
definitely dated guys who were very
close to my height too and
didn't care
and even liked it because
you can really form a
narcissistic bond with someone
that's really on your level.
I almost don't like when I guys
to talk because I don't like
the power differential so much.
I briefly dated a guy who was six
four once and it was
painful and intolerable because it was very hard
to kiss him and I didn't
feel like a tiny
dainty small bean.
I felt like
his Guatemalan servant.
He was like, Anna, how's that flatbread coming?
I knew a very tall
guy.
Like, maybe
six five or six,
you know, extremely
tall, you could say,
who told me
his preference were for women who were
like under
five five.
That's a paraphernalia, right?
Whatever, people,
he likes him, he likes a spinner.
No, I'm not gonna, you know, whatever.
Clearly a sex proverb.
I think
it has to do with other things,
honestly, that I won't get into
but
but I do remember
being, I felt kind of this like
indignancy
not for myself, but
I was like being rejected.
Not for me, but I was like, there are women
out there who are
five ten, six
feet tall even, and
they have a limited dating
pool, and you should be
available to them
rather than the other thing
it's like they call it
in this article, everybody always
has to coin a new
or tall privilege,
you can call it that, but tall people
live also in a
hell of their own, like they have to
cram themselves into
cramped restaurant boots
and airplane seats.
It's not
a walk in the park to be
extremely tall,
and I feel like also
really beautiful, really tall women
get passed over a lot, because they're
intimidating, and they're often
very lonely
and insecure, because nobody approaches them.
Yeah,
she talks to another endocrinologist,
endocrinologist
who said that though
heightism exists
period
period
concerned parents wrong
we think height is the key to success in
belonging.
Dr. Grimberg said there are
some short people who thrive and do
phenomenally well and lead fantastic lives, and
there are some tall people who are miserable.
I love how they say the quiet part loud,
like the exception that proves the rule
that tall people are on the whole considered
more attractive and powerful and successful
in their lives. There are some
short people,
like Lex Friedman and Roman Polanski
who thrive in spite of their
adversity.
And some tall people are sad.
Some tall people are also genetically predisposed
to being depressive
and suicidal
and choose to end their lives
with Canadian euthanasia.
Even if you're an absolute
Chad, you know, we all get lonely,
we all need...
Being tall is a disadvantage of its own.
Just look at Jan Sixth
and that extremely tall
hot guy who
wore that game of thrones like that.
Was he tall? He easily could have been.
He seemed pretty tall. I'm kidding. He was obviously
like...
He became a meme because he was wearing a retarded
outfit and some like paid actor, like a crisis actor
who parachutes
into like historic events.
Jay Epps got him on the horn
and said, we need you
down here. Ray Epps
was the same.
I like how she alleges that being tall
makes you more susceptible
to drone attacks.
That's probably true. The Bedouins in Yemen
are pretty tall, right?
They have that Adrian Brody like tall
and slender build. Sad.
Beautiful people.
Yeah, you could...
There could be some low branches
that could pose a threat
or, you know,
an overpass or to help people up to duck
and... You might get beheaded by some scaffolding.
Exactly.
Like that guy in the Exorcist
or the Omen or whatever it was.
If a safe falls out of
a window, it'll hit
a tall person, slightly
sooner than it would have had.
If a grand piano falls
out of a skyscraper.
So it's not
so great up there
now, is it?
When I'm drone bombing you.
My only
real beef
with all people is like whenever you go
to a concert that's like
standing room only,
some tall ass Nordic
boop, somehow
mysteriously magically always stands in front of you.
Yeah.
Oh.
I mean...
I'm just trying to get flicked
by Morris' tits sweat.
Get out of the way.
Yeah, and a lot of
some repertory theaters
don't have such good sight lines
here in New York and often
even if a tall person sits in front of you
in a movie theater here.
Especially if you're frequenting foreign films as I am.
They block a lot of the...
I saw Madame Bovary, I was kind of
I couldn't.
I only really understood
half of what was happening in that movie.
Because of the tall people.
Because of the tall people, yeah.
We'd like a Randy Newman short people, but for tall people
like an anthem about...
That's what we need.
Tall people are.
They're the new deplorable.
How's the weather up there?
Okay.
Let's be real. All of this is because
the readership of
The New York Times is overwhelmingly short.
Oh yeah.
They know their audience.
It's like a Jewish and Catholic
boomers in NYC.
Yeah.
Irish.
5'6 to 5'10.
I mean the average...
The average height for women in America is 5'4.
The average height for men
in America is 5'10.
Which is not...
I happen to think that 5'10 is the perfect height
for a man, for me personally
as a 5'4 woman.
For you it's probably somewhere around 6'5.
No, I think 5'10 is nice, honestly.
I like...
I like seeing eye to eye.
My dad's about 5'10,
so that works for me.
In my weird
culture complex with my dad.
My dad was 5'10,
which was tall for an Armenian.
Yeah.
My parents never got to live the American dream
because both of their children are shorter than them.
Sad.
Well, my parents are, you know,
part of a Soviet eugenics program.
Yeah.
There are certain things, of course, that you can also do
to make yourself appear taller,
like doing Pilates
or weight training,
but...
I definitely see some
manlets at the gym
who...
Much like reading Fight Club,
I would never begrudge
someone for working on their physique,
you know?
Well, you have to.
That's the thing,
because I'm like,
you kind of have to
because you have so much to compensate for.
And it's still...
I don't know.
There's still an inadequacy.
Yeah, I mean, being a woman
is just like inherently easier
because whether you're 5'4
or 5'10, men still love you.
So true.
Whereas I can imagine
being like a 5'6 man
produces
a lot of
inadequacies that lead you to become
the crisis actor
president of Ukraine.
I mean...
Yeah.
A lot of short people
are tyrannical.
Yeah, there is a quote
in this article about that.
Nancy Blaker, a Netherlands-based researcher
who at one time studied social status
said that short men counter to
prevailing stereotypes
may, quote, compensate for being short
by developing positive attributes.
It's not about being aggressive and mean,
it's about being behave in smart strategic ways
that can also mean being pro-social.
It's literally about being aggressive
and mean. Like Napoleon.
Like Napoleon, yeah.
They behave in...
They become incredible military strategists.
Actors.
The best male actors.
I mean, okay.
So true.
Are short kings with...
I say I'm shorter than I am
in self-tapes, actually.
But you mentioned this before, why?
Because so many male actors are...
It's not...
But they can put him on a box, right?
Yeah.
But in general, I think
in the film industry is one in which
there is already
some heightism in the opposite direction.
I watched a really good
Spaghetti Western the other day
called El Grande Silenzio
starring
Joskinsky and Jean-Louis Tritignon.
Am I pronouncing that correctly?
R.I.P.
And just looking...
Eyeballing them, you would assume that
these are tall guys because they have such
big, profound,
emotive faces and presences
and they're both five-eight kings.
So actually, they probably didn't have
to do a lot of weird box
pyrotechnics on that movie because
the protagonist and the villain
were equally matched in terms
of being five-eight on Google
which in real life means five-six.
Yeah.
I mean, you can see their proportions
when they zoom out.
Tom Cruise is very small.
Yeah, but he has like a big, gorgeous head.
Yeah, and a gorgeous big smile.
And this is like the opposite
of what fashion models are
where they have
slim but large
bag of bones
bodies with a tiny,
sculpted brontosaurus head.
Because you don't want to have
an overly big head on the runway.
Right.
Because you don't want it to
overtake like
the fashion.
I thought about this a lot clearly.
Yeah, you should write the next
article about Heidism
in the New York Times.
I'm actually average height in America
but my haters
claim that I'm, quote,
4'11".
A lot of people
think I'm shorter than Anna
and they have it all wrong.
Here's why.
This is why
millions must die
among my haters.
Right.
The amount of people that must die
are the...
the same amount of people who don't like me.
Yeah.
It's so weird
how that just like...
If I had to put a number to how many
would have to die,
I would be...
I'm just gonna pull up my Patreon stats
and round all them up.
But so clearly,
also a clear cut case of this woman's like
resentment,
that she, quote, 5' even.
And why
did she just
tap that at 5
after taking the human growth hormone?
Well, that just means that she was
supposed to be like 4'9 or 4'11.
She was gonna be medically short
and now she's merely
on the short end of the normal spectrum, I guess.
Right.
It is, I mean...
How short were her parents that they
anticipated this and made her
inject herself for 3 years?
This is really an article about hating her parents.
So she's taking it out on her twins.
By making them as small
as possible.
I'm doing this
to conserve the world's resources
for refugees and not at all because
I hate my parents.
I mean, I...
You might be one of my
shortest friends.
Damn.
You know, I feel like
I
tend to group
with other people
who are familiar.
And I would have a hard time
with being friends
with someone that was medically short
to be honest.
I have a story about this.
You do?
Yeah, one of my first job
interviews in New York City
was for this early girl boss
website called Refinery29
when I was
an aspiring journalist and writer.
And I walked into
the offices
and I thought it was like bring your daughter to work day
because there was this tiny person
there and she whipped around
aggressively and confidently offered her hand
and she was like, I'm the boss here
I'm going to be interviewing you and she was
literally a midget.
Like I had to bend down
and I didn't know the protocol
or the etiquette.
I was like, do I bend over?
Is that condescending?
Do I just offer my
morally superior perch?
Needless to say, I didn't get the job.
Avery freaked out.
But also it was pathologically shy and a horrible interviewer.
But I remember her asking her
where she got her clothes.
Because I meant it
in a complimentary way.
I love your...
What's that, baby gap?
She was like
I go to baby gap.
She literally shopped in the kids section
of gap.
No.
No.
It's all coming back to me now.
The havoc these
short people have.
That's why Randy Newman wrote the song.
Yeah, he was on to something.
They're a menace and a nuisance.
They. Not me.
They're not me at all.
There's something wrong with them.
Why are they so small?
I do be wearing heels all the time.
Which gives people the impression that I'm 5'6".
Well, that's the nice...
I will say as a woman...
We've talked for so long about this stupid article.
It's okay. I can go all night.
How much I hate short people.
I hate myself.
You know, I throw on a pair of heels.
I'm 5'9".
I'm 5'9".
I'm 10".
I like to wear a big chunky.
That's why Ann Coulter wears the kitten heels.
Those legs though.
Contrary to popular belief,
every woman,
even the most
overtly racist
and sexist one
wants to feel like a dainty little flower.
You don't want to overpower and intimidate
men physically.
That's not sexy.
It doesn't make you feel good.
No.
But I like to wear a heel.
Me too.
When I lie about the reason I wear heels.
Because I'm just like,
it's just like a medical thing.
Because I'm very flat footed.
Which is true by the way.
And it's painful for me to wear flat shoes.
For my arches.
But of course it's like a huge cope.
Yeah.
I would ask corral shoes still.
Because it's a small heel.
It's a perfect amount of heel.
It's like a two inch heel.
5'8 is a good height for a woman.
I agree.
I would say that's probably my ideal height for a woman.
5'8.
5'10 is
glamorous and Amazonian.
6' is probably pushing it into the realm of...
Getting it to freak territory there.
Not an envious
position to be in.
5'4 is like
acceptable and fuckable.
And most people don't notice.
Totally normal height Anna.
But is the realm of
paraffilia
Men don't care.
Yeah, they don't care.
Men definitely
do not suffer from
the bigotry of heightism.
Here's another
fucked up instance of them saying the quiet part loud.
At the very end
where
they say like long live short people.
Where
wasn't Hitler short?
Famous list.
Because we've googled Hitler's
chart.
Because she makes the case a little earlier
about how many people
So that means he's 5'6.
Someone getting murdered outside.
She talks about how a lot of people
think that tall people make good leaders.
Which is all true.
It's...
There is something about it.
Literally no one ever in the history of history
has ever thought a tall person
made a good leader.
I think American presidents
are typically
Obama was tall.
Bill Clinton was tall.
Trump's tall. Biden's tall.
But they're symbolic mouthpieces.
The real leaders are
Mussolini and Berlusconi.
Disgusting crippled
manlets with a chip on their shoulder
who
instead of becoming great
visual artists choose to
impose their will.
5'3.
Who got more pussy than
that guy nobody.
I went to the Picasso Museum in
Antibes when I was in Cannes
over the spring, summer
and
it was basically
literally a museum to his sexual conquests
because he was doing a lot of fucking and sucking
even in this provincial little village.
Women love
short guys because
women's ultimate goal is
I can fix him.
I can inject him as human growth.
That's what I'll say to
if you're
a short guy
who's
inclined towards a gym,
lifestyle
honestly I think you're better off
cultivating your talents
and maybe even being a little slovenly
because
you'll do better
because when you do
kind of
overwork on your physique
you see inadvertently draw more attention
to your shortness
because then you're kind of
what you're saying.
You're kind of packing it all in
whereas if you
you're wearing your insecurity on your sleeve
and women don't like that.
No, no, no.
Just double down, look like shit, get fat.
How tall was
Orson Welles?
Orson Welles was tall I think.
I bet he was
six or taller even.
He seems like
he had a
man with a lot of presence.
I also find Orson Welles
sexy.
Holy shit.
How tall is Woody Allen? 5'6".
Yeah, he's small.
Welcome to Red Scare Podcast.
Where we Google
the kinds of famous men.
It's going great.
5'5".
Okay.
5'6 is basically the cutoff
sexual
viability
acceptability in men,
I think.
I just, I think it's
yeah, probably.
Dasha, if you're a perfect man
materialized in front of you
right now
and was like rich, handsome, Jewish
witty, racist
and 5'6", would you
make a life with this man?
Would you be the
one to work into his search
games work? I would, I would.
How tall is search games work?
Birkin was tall, but he
was not, for sure.
I'm going to guess
I'm going to guess 5'9",
according to Google, so 5'7".
This is fun, y'all.
Yeah, this is 5'10".
Yeah, right.
Jay Birkin is 5'8".
What?
Charlotte Gainesburg is 5'8".
She towered over.
Brigitte Bardot is 5'5".
Cutie, okay.
There we go. 5'5' is nice.
When they say 5'5", they mean 5'3".
Just like dock 2".
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I should have done the thing
that smart women do, just that I was 5'6".
I'm going to do something new.
Because they would have docked the 2'' anyway.
Yeah, me and Anna both 5'6".
I'm googling Dasha Necrossover height.
Okay, the red scare reddit comes up.
Oh, healthyceleb.com
Healthyceleb.com says I'm 5'5".
51 kilograms.
What's that?
Like 110 pounds.
Okay, it's less than that.
That's nice.
According to facts, buddy.
I'm 5'5".
Okay, I'll take that.
Dasha has dated number one Adam Freeland.
Number two Paul Jonathan.
What the fuck is that?
Paul Jonathan Coupo.
She has a beauty spot on her chin
and a mole on the left side of her face
near her nose.
Her favorite alcoholic drink vodka.
Is that true?
I guess so, yeah.
But all these sites, they just aggregate
info from Google.
Oh yeah, here's this freak.
In some corners of the world,
a celebration of short stature is actually happening.
Arna Hendricks, a 6'4".
An artist uses performance
and exhibitions to encourage people
to embrace fewer inches.
He's even restricted dairy from his son's diets
and only allows them minimal sugar
in an attempt to limit their growth,
saving them from the ills of height.
It's time for tall people to get off our high horses,
Mr. Hendricks said.
Don't be overly confident when you are tall
because you are probably going to die younger,
have more health problems, and you are polluting more.
Polluting more?
Come on.
Arna Hendricks.
He's pretty cute.
That's not what I was expecting.
What else is on our
docket?
The Andrew Tate.
Oh.
We kind of, we touched on it.
We already talked to Andrew Tate.
We already
someone texted me.
You called this Andrew Tate
weeks ago and I was like,
sort of, you know,
he was very openly,
like, if you're in Romania,
you're sex trafficking,
that's not a mystery
solved.
He was very openly bragging
about
Mashiach,
Mashiach, Mashiach.
I almost went in the Mashiach truck today.
Honestly, it was
a bump in by Washington's
Park.
I hope our mics are picking up.
This
more often bourgeois music
for
both guests,
the Rivian rhythms.
Yeah, Nicola's
theory was
like a show of strength and cooperation
from
Romanian authorities because
Romania's neighbors
Bulgaria
and Croatia got into the
Schengen zone.
And
Romania got declined.
Oh, for real?
So they were showing that they could
play ball with
the rest of
continental Europe.
No more
Kuna in Croatia.
It's the EU now.
I
love that they blast this music at night.
That's awesome.
I feel like
I'm in a Beirut dance party.
I know.
I feel like I'm queen of
my husband's hair.
I am favorite wife.
All the other wife in Habibi.
Habibi
of Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
Maddie's Muslim now.
I know, I heard.
She's like
Tate Pilled.
Well, actually to become Muslim
all you have to do
is say,
there is no deity but Allah
and Muhammad is his prophet
in front of two people.
Sincerely.
And she said she actually did it during quarantine
but there's a very low barrier to entry.
Yeah.
To become Muslim.
Which makes me think like
do you, Groucho Mark style,
do you really want to be part of
any club that would have you?
Do you really want to be part of that religion?
The music just cut out.
Yeah, yikes.
Plus we all know that
you know what,
I was going to say something
but I'm going to not.
Well, we all know the Quran's trash.
No, I don't want to cut that.
Okay, but I just don't want the fatwa.
Yeah.
No, you do want the fatwa, please.
Look what the fatwa did for Salman Rushdie.
This man had like
I don't want the fatwa.
He had 30 odd years of
international fame
and a pussy buffet
of beautiful blonde schixes
a revolving door of women
because he was
pursued by Islamist authorities.
I don't think the fatwa
was going to be good for me.
And then some losers stabbed his eye out
but he was old.
So it's kind of a worthy way to make your exit.
I don't want it.
I already live in so much fear.
They don't issue fatwas anymore
because they're all busy gaming.
Yeah.
That's a good one for red square hot days.
Yeah, they're too busy.
The Taliban's all on Twitter now.
They've been very light with the fatwas lately.
Think about it.
Have there been any high-profile
fatwas in our lifetime that we've heard about
that the western press has picked up on none?
You would think that they'd issue a fatwa
against Donald Trump for
droning Soleimani.
Right.
But they didn't.
What does it take these days?
Good point.
Similarly, the Catholic Church
hasn't issued an anathema
in ages.
What's an anathema? That's like a Catholic fatwa.
It's not a fatwa.
It just means you're
outside of the church.
But that seems so nice and civilized
compared to
the Mennonites do it and they sing
they go anathema, anathema,
anathema.
They like bump it out of a Moroccan
party bus.
Imagine if you got a fatwa issued
against you tomorrow.
I can't deal with that.
You would be catapulted to a global
superstar overnight.
You'd be like a female andretate.
I
look like a baller university
y'all.
But
andretate's out on bail. He's not
actually detained right now.
I think it was just like for show.
And also
honestly, you deserve to get arrested
if you're like an internet
influencer
who cops to human trafficking.
You bring it upon yourself and there's
that whole plot line
that they wheeled out for the normies
and Greta Thunberg clapped back
and they were able to geolocate him
based on the pizza box with Romanian
lettering on it.
That was
clearly a ruse, whatever.
I'm so sick of Greta Thunberg
with her ratty ass.
Me too, I promised I wouldn't say anything
negative about women's appearances.
She's raggedy, raggedy bitch.
This raggedy little hoe.
Somebody said I should
consider
a career in acting and play Ayn Rand in the
biopic. Ooh, I love that for you
actually.
But what if you were cast as Greta?
Because they need somebody more attractive.
But still
with that
kind of slight fetal alcohol thing
that people find so charming
shame on you.
It would be the role of a lifetime
because neither of us could play
Moala, let's be real.
I'd be sailing around
on that boat.
I wish she would just
get into her eco-terrorist arc already.
But also where is Greta now?
She's like, okay, she clapped back at Andrew
Tate, but she hasn't really, she's like Kanye.
We haven't really heard from her lately. She's not around.
She fucking sucks, dude.
Yeah, she's like
a shrill and annoying libtard
mouthpiece, but I wish her the best. That's
the thing. That's the thing people don't really
know about me. I wish Lex Friedman the best.
I wish Andrew Tate the best.
I don't wish Andrew Tate the best.
Actually, I, you know,
I think he should be trapped
in a camhore dungeon
for a decade at least.
I'm curious what kind of...
But I respect that he's good at chess. Is he?
What's his yellow? Is this public?
I think it's like eight.
Someone told me it was like 1800
Blitz. It's like pretty high.
And his dad is like the best black guy to ever play
chess or something.
I mean, aren't black guys good at chess?
They're always out there in Washington
Square and Tompkins Square.
My chess tutor.
Blasting sigs and hitting the chess board.
Shout out to my
chess tutor.
Your chess tutor is black.
No.
He's Jewish, obviously.
But he...
I was getting kind of down because I've had...
I've been on a little bit of a
losing streak.
I
haven't been playing as...
Like how bad?
Well, I had one...
Okay, so
before Christmas
I had a day where I played chess for
like eight hours and my yellow
nose and fell by like 100 points, basically.
That's gambling.
That's a gambling addiction, I know.
And
then I tilted and whatever.
But he was like, don't get
down on yourself, you know?
He was like, it's a game that
literally homeless people are good.
You're obsessed with a board game
that homeless people play.
They don't feel too bad about yourself.
Literally,
your average homeless person
or Chinese child
can easily beat you
with chess, Dasha.
So don't feel bad.
You should walk around the city
in your Mew Mew coat and challenge
homeless people with chess.
Imagine...
I mean, imagine if you had like money
riding on it and it could be like a John
Cassavetes movie where a bunch of like
loan sharks and quote bookmakers
tried to kill you.
That could be fun, yeah.
What's the one?
Mikey and Nikki.
Killing of a Chinese bookie.
Killing of a Chinese
Dasha.
Killing of a Chinese
chess child.
Yeah.
I played a...
I beat a 14 year old in Brazil
recently.
You're like Ben Shapiro.
Some girl was like, how old are you?
She was like, hi, how old are you?
I was like, how old are you?
She was like 14, I was like,
I'm 20.
Totally got her ass, dude.
That's good.
I mean, maybe she got a humbling
experience out of it.
Do you think
Andrew Tate was really human trafficking?
Uh...
Uh...
Okay,
human trafficking is in there.
What is human trafficking? It's Michael Tracy.
Okay, I'm going to take the opposite position.
No, I'm just...
I'm going to play like the Aspergian
devils out of kit. What is human trafficking?
Is it that they were humanly traffic?
No.
That's what he seemed to imply on Twitter.
I don't know, I have no doubt...
That he was specifically referring to some...
I'm going to human traffic Michael Tracy.
The problem
with human trafficking
discourse
is that
it is very much real.
Okay.
But it has done
a massive
change from both sides
in that both
the empowered
sex worker, happy hooker
or whatever
is
both as real
and as much of
a contrived fantasy
as the shackled suffering
prostitute.
And both are like
held up
as the
symbol of the prostitute
par excellence.
The platonic ideal.
The platonic prostitute.
That people use for various
you know
the
sex worker rights people
champion
I don't even know what
this idea about...
Well, they'd love to hop on the computer and be like
well
I have an only fans
to stop grossing earner
because it's so easy
to get sex traffic under capitalism
and the patriarchy which by the way
are two mutually exclusive values.
So therefore I've taken matters
into my own hands
and become a free agent.
They love to do that thing.
But similarly the like
suffering prostitute
industrial complex
also justifies
lots of like
uh
you know
it's funding a lot of like
NGOs
and kind of
draconian
and liberal measures that severely limit
people's freedom and the truth of it is
it's like
it's the oldest profession
Well there's a lot
presumably like a lot of NGOs who are like
invested in
the continuation of sex trafficking
just like they were invested
in the continuation of
black oppression
because it's their bread and butter
if that... Yeah, makes you think
dries up, they're out of a job
and they have to come up with a new thing
to be impassioned about
and raise money for.
And it'll never
I mean there are
legitimately women who are in
sexual slavery
I mean I feel like half the female population
Romania is probably sex
traffic at one point or another. Eastern Europe
and the other half has AIDS.
I grew up with a half Egyptian half
Romanian guy who was an exchange student
to my school who became one of my best friends
and he said, not BAP
and he said
Even the dogs
in Romania have AIDS
Tambra
Do you ever see that documentary about the
Romanian orphans who have
pain? I have, yeah.
So fucking sad dude. I think my mom
showed me that film. That was my solo.
Yeah.
That's rough stuff.
Yeah, but like, okay, sex trafficking
or human trafficking, whatever
Human trafficking is when
someone takes your fucking
passport. Right, which is
allegedly what Andrew
and Tristan Tate did. And does not
give it back to you or
kidnaps you and gets you addicted to
drugs and sells you to Saudi
guys or
which is, does very much
happen. Yeah, especially in Eastern Europe.
Sex trafficking is not
simply like
someone that you have sex
with to Dubai
to have sex with them.
Yeah, or like
obviously people should not be
pushed into sex
work out of like economic
desperation. It's an unfortunate
fact, but that is not
human trafficking.
So I don't know
Andrew, yeah, I mean,
I guess Andrew Tate was not trafficking these
women, but he was, well, the
allegation is that he and his brother
withheld the passports
of two women. One was a Romanian national,
the other one was American national and kept
them in there like Osama bin Laden ass
Romanian compound
and that's what they were like
nabbed on.
Well, that's wrong, but also like
who knows what really happened
and I feel like human trafficking
while it's real and does exist
is one of those like liberal buzzwords
that they get all hot and bothered about because
they like quote want to make a difference.
Well, they didn't used to
Yeah, there was a
really sigh up them on anything.
We should actually do that.
We should come up with a new buzzword that
used to call it white slavery.
I tweeted this actually about how people
don't talk about white slavery anymore
and now people kind of are, but they don't
call it that, but that's what they're talking
about. Well, you can't because
the whole society is anti-white.
I figure I can get away with anything
if you say it.
If I just speak in Jordan Peterson voice.
But Eastern Europe
and Southeast Asia are like
real hot
beds of this exactly this
the sort of thing where people
children women are
legitimately kidnapped and sold
into slavery
and that is something that shouldn't
happen but is obscured
by
politics and
discourse in
both directions.
There are like many women and children specifically
who are currently
in a modern day institution of
bondage.
And like nobody really cares.
Well, you know who was doing human trafficking
was Gia Tolentino's
parent. Oh, right. Yeah, I forgot
about that. So it's not merely
you know, sex work
I think is the most like vivid and heinous
example of it.
It's the thing that people fixate on because it
involves sex. Right, but people
get trafficked to be like domestic
laborers. Triangle of sadness
Filipino laborers.
Exactly.
And they basically clean toilets for
living but are also sexually assaulted
on the job by
shadowy masters
and overlords and have no rights because
they'll get shipped back to also I mean
modeling is a big kind of trafficking
racket as well that is
like a big gray
area where these girls get what are
they called
H1BVSIL
or whatever.
Get Amber Frost on there and she knows.
We really need to pallet cleanse.
We really do. We need to get some
We need a woman.
We need a woman guest.
But what was I saying?
Something about human trafficking.
Oh, modeling. Yeah.
That that is
literally a way for
attractive young girls to be
shuttled around
and exposed
to
all sorts of nefarious
infrastructure
under the guise of their modeling
careers.
These words become
Thanks, love.
They become like
bloated and inflated
because anybody
can claim to have been sexually assaulted
and or human trafficked
and the word loses its meaning
but becomes this like
Lex Friedman ass
like sentimental
unctuous call to arms where people
are like, oh, we have to like wear cashmere sweaters
to combat
human trafficking.
I mean, it really is.
It is
horrible. I mean, Jeffrey Epstein was
legitimately trafficking
human trafficker like
and a lot of those girls were
underage their passwords
were taken like
that is they were taken to
were geistic islands
where Bill Clinton did
also some fucked up shit to them.
So there is it does really
mean something and it does mean something
truly heinous
but nobody cares. But no one actually
cares. Yeah, that's the thing. That's the problem.
And should we touch on the
Prince Harry stuff?
Oh, I
did you do any research into that? No.
I got
we should maybe just like watch the
documentary. He has a new book coming out
that I don't really want to read called
quote spare.
He's been making out of claims lately that
his brother Prince William
physically assaulted him over his
relationship with Meghan Markle
that Prince
William
topped him. Kate Middleton
made Harry Don
the Nazi uniform
as a gag
that his
he got frostbite on his penis
the most the most
kind of bold
and insane claim that he made was that he killed
25 people in
Afghanistan
but I can always believe it
because he's doing like a weird tour of
atonement like he stopped short of
transitioning but is doing everything in his power
to like
I'm so
I'm so sick of these royals
he has a special talent
for making things
that are cool and based
such as
losing your virginity to an older
woman
or donning Nazi
vestments in regalia
or
mowing down civilians
who have been designated as enemy
combatants seem like
cringe and embarrassing
he clearly didn't kill anybody
he probably had
well the legacy of colonialism
which the royals are
complicit in Anna
actually has killed a lot
of people so he does have
blood on his hands
that's what he's really atoning
for
colonialism
capitalism
but yeah we'll watch the
dog well you know
next week let's really
put in the work
we've been doing such a good job
we've been very regular
we've been regular on like my menstrual cycle
and yet in spite of it all I find the strength
to come here
every seven to ten days
and
get drunk and talk into a microphone
such a hard job
I find the strength to
go to my local wine shop
but maybe we do a movie
maybe we do I don't know
maybe we do that's a good question
well people are begging us to do
traumasome but we can't even get through it
I got through it
you watched the whole thing
I tapped out at f3
I cried a lot
and I took a little note so I'm ready for that
but I want to get Adam Curtis
on the pod
he's been ghosting us
why he ghost us
I don't know
you like holding this quote holiday in the UK
so maybe that's why
Europeans do be taking
two to three months long holidays
circle back
I'll take that out
Adam baby
please
we fucked up bad
we had one of the most
evil guys
we need a palette cleanser
wasn't there that sexual assault movie
oh she said
yeah no one saw it
we would be the only people who saw it
there's also a movie that I've been seeing
because I get ads on Twitter called women talking
and I'm like no thanks
they're literally begging
pass
I'd rather see she said
because I bet it'll be more entertaining
and
we kind of cut our teeth on this whole me too grind
just like the girls in that movie
that's true
when we make one called all the things
she said
that's about us responding
to me too
so true
we're where like girl boss female journalists
except we're like he did nothing wrong
so we embed ourselves
and it says right here
these women are coming forth with these allegations when this man has done nothing wrong
like slamming
on the desk and stuff
I do think Andrew Tate did something wrong
confirmed yeah
for sure
being a shameless bag
I'll tolerate the human trafficking aspect
he's just a fucking loser
I wish I didn't even know who he was
yeah me too
anyway we've almost done two hours
okay
really unnecessary
yeah
see you in hell