Red Scare - You've Gaza be Kidding Me

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

The ladies take on the Israel/Palestine situation.  

Oh Okay, there we go. I guess we're back. We're back. Tough situation in the Middle East. Yeah, it's been an eventful few days. Yeah, here we were last week laughing about people saying how the Ryan Carson stabbing was the worst thing that's ever happened on Twitter.

Nope. Now you log on and see oh my god dad Palestinian babies being carried through the rubble without even looking for it. No, it's just it's crazy. It's crazy. Fall around. The first thing that caught my attention on the day of the attacks was the woman in the back of the car. Oh, Shawnee Luke. Yes. This was German.

Ethnically as Rayleigh, but a German national. Yeah. Yeah, she was like the captivating symbol of... She was the one of the ravers. Yeah. It was maimed by Hamas. She's become like the George Floyd. She's not dead apparently.

I heard a lot of missing about out there. Yes, they're still. Stay woke, y'all. She's a gorgeous festival thought and also a boy-mom. And like, her broken and desecrated corpse was being paraded on the back of a pickup truck by Hamas fighters. But it wasn't her corpse, I guess.

But then her mother is now claiming that she's alive in a Gaza hospital, though she has serious head injuries and multiple broken bones. Yeah, that was truly grisly. But set aside the plight of this poor woman, it's so symbolic of the state of lib tartation that they would throw a music festival for peace, mirrorpaces away from like a border fence that separates Israel from the Palestinian territory.

I know. And at first, early that day, they were saying it was like IDF girls. There was another horrible video of a girl who had clearly have been raped, getting shuffled into a car, bleeding from her crotch. But I did notice that that girl had dreadlocks, and I was like, that's pretty interesting for an ID.

They don't really have dreadlocks in the IDF. These are really, so really into that gonga and rostivized. I know we should be smoking hookah today. Yeah, we're doing obviously what people begged us not to do, which is talking about the latest collaboration of the ancestral blood feud between Israel and Palestine. I had people DMing me when this first pop-off being like, can you guys review the Beckums or do a movie episode?

Please, please, please, whatever you do. Don't bring up the Israel situation. How can you not? I mean, but it's impossible to avoid it. Like everyone's talking about it and like getting their takes. And I ran into my downstairs in Ava on the stoop. Yeah. And he casually brought it up without me saying a word.

Mm-hmm. It's not polite to talk about politics. No, but we're not polite here. But his take was good. It was like the British were retarded for like handing it over to them and being like you figure it out. To Israel. You mean back way back one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it reminded me of like how you mean back way back when? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it reminded me of like how Armenian and Azari relations were fairly stabilized.

OK, well, so I. The union wasn't hacked. Yeah. I have a question about that thing. What thing? The Azaries in the area are we ever touched on that. Right. Either speaking of global politics, I was

like watching the coverage. And I'll just on Al Jazeera, I was like watching the coverage and I was just on Al Jazeera when I was abroad and I still couldn't. I really make sense of it. So they did an ethnic cleansing. Yeah, the Azaris with the help of the Turks and the Israelis finally managed to push the Armenians off of their ancestral land and they're forcing them to leave to evacuate because otherwise there's going to be like an ethnic cleansing. So this is this is karmic retribution. And it came swifter than anyone expected. Why? Because the Azaris want the land and they hate Armenia. And I think my read on what happened,

even though I'm not super well versed in that region, is that the government of Nicole Pashinyan, who's like a liberal reformer, our friends, Alec and Karin made a documentary about how he ended up taking over the government by like walking on foot across Armenia and winning over the hearts and minds of Armenian people. He's kind of like a lib tart and a coward and they started making overtures to the West, which Putin and Russia really didn't like. Right.

So, the foreign ministry there issued a really passive-aggressive statement being like, well, we wash our hands of this. You figured it out. I think Zerbajan probably took advantage of Russia having their hands tied in the Ukraine Yeah to launch their attack and So they did attack them or they issued some decree that they had to leave they blockade them God and I and they they do attack them regularly, but basically, Armenia is like paying the price

of co-zing up to the west because Russia took this personally. And Russia doesn't like Israel either. Yeah, I don't... I think nobody likes each other, but I'm sympathetic to the idea that when you have these insoluble fraternal conflicts of warring tribes, you really need a neutral foreign power and civilization broker to administer the whole mass. Yeah. Yeah. I did some research. I skimmed Alan Dershwitz's case for Israel. Alan Dershwitz, really ugly guy, never passenger on the lowly to express. Yeah, so close associated web scene, total liar. So, you know, grain of salt, but I was

like, okay, I was like, make the case. And you remember, you know, I mean, you found the most nabish and ugly to make you. Yeah, an ugly lying guy. Um, but... With teeth that look like candycourt? And he never, I was trying to find pictures of him young, he like never looked good. Yeah, yeah, I know. He's always been a really vile, ugly guy. I know. With guys like Alan Dersch with surround, who even needs anti-Semitic caricatures?

So what did he say? like Ellen Dersch with Surround who even needs anti-Semitic caricatures. So what did he say? Well, he said there was no one over there barely when they gave it to Israel. Or when Zionism started, when they started going to quote Palestine. Because I was very like, I don't know, I'm stupid and I get all my information from like TikTok and like infographics. So I was under the impression that there was a country called Palestine that they gave to the Jews. But that's not the case. It's just like a bunch of roving, better, wintertime.

There was like barely anybody there at all. It's like a South Africa situation. Right, which I also don't know about. I'm really glad I read Pilled Myself on South Africa leading up to this event. Um, yeah, I'm glad I spent so much time on rotten.com as a youth to prepare myself for my adulthood of watching violence on the internet. So because I was your, your Zionist now. I am Zionist, yes.

I think that Israel has a right to exist. You're a microchomerechalian Zionist. Well, that's for sure. I mean, I'm a phylo-samite, famously. We've really come a long way from our first Israel-Palestine episode with our guest Adam Friedland, where I had to play the bad cop and be the Zionist, and now you have to fall in the sword. Now I have to fall in the sword. Well I just, I mean I had a very circumcised sword.

I had a very, I, you know, like many people had a superficial emotional reaction to the Hamas attack, which was like... War propaganda works and it really works on women. I mean, setting aside the propaganda stuff, it's very clear that there was some horrible crimes and atrocities committed. Yeah, any kind of like mild sympathies or like both sideisms that I like contrived myself into having, I um, yeah, the attack really did make me feel like militantly sinistic. Well, my thing is putting aside any ancestral land claims or

long-standing tribal disagreements. The main criteria used when picking aside is whose vision of society would you rather live in? Well, yeah. But it turns out that both sides are really into communism. So, um, um, that'll most, um, well, then yeah, I was like, okay, horrible atrocity. I was like, clearly, hummus or suicidal, like, is as, you know, be my boy, BB says, like Israel will end this war. Like they could, yeah, they could demolish Gaza and are probably going to. I was like, oh, they'd rather be dead than live under Israeli occupation. As is their right, but what a really rais and like evil thing to do. Like really, I was like, reeling and then I was like,

so I've spent, you know, I've tried, I've really tried to look at, you know, I'm really doing my best to make sense of this. I know everyone's waiting with Bated Breath. But I just don't know, like if you are I mean, I just don't know. Like, if you are pro-Palestine, you're like, anti-social. Like, you don't have a job.

You have like, I mean, there was a lot of, there was a pro-Palestine. You're like a candy crush. You were a gray sweatpants. There was like a pro-Palestine demonstration on my street. And people were writing like Piss Reel on the sidewalk and stuff and they were like chimping out and I was feeling like I'm Frank up in my apartment and yeah, I was like, what are they demonstrating for?

Like they just did a terrorist attack. Now is not the time to draw attention to the plight of, as all the leftists will tell you, this is what decolonialization looks like. Well then that's, and then decolonization is bad. Well, yeah, it's bad for other reasons too, but. Then I sent this to you, Dave Rubin, to clear up any confusion for the morally bankrupt. Who would Hitler be rooting for right now? Thanks for playing.

Actually, an interesting thought experiment. It is. Yeah, it would Hitler be rooting for. Because I think... Dave Rubin is actually kind of a good comedian because you can't tell if he's being intentionally or unintentionally funny. He's so retarded, I almost forgot he was gay. But he does, yeah, he does pose an interesting, would Hitler be how?

Like, like Israel probably. Yes, because that's, he though a place for the Jews to go. And it's also like formed on the basic principles of national socialism. Does Hitler hate Jews or Muslims more? There's a lot of angles to this. It's very complicated, but before we proceed I think it's important to preface that don't be mad at me. Both sides are annoying and retarded. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be mad at me. And don't be Henry Kissinger. It's a pity both. For the Amalus. But we should talk about what happened.

Yeah. So Hamas launched a surprisingly effective and impressive offensive and they bested the fabled Israeli defense system. They parachute it in there to disrupt this planned reproachment that Israel had going with the Saudis by provoking them into reaction obviously and they also did it on a religious holiday 50 years the day of the original Yom Kippur war now has blaze apparently in the mix up north so it's about to get even more bloody and the big question that everyone has been asking is how did this happen when the IDF Presumably as Gaza under a microscope at all times. Right. There were a lot of explanations being offered

It was a religious holiday so people had their guard down Israel is disunited now due to the judicial reforms I didn't know about that But some people are speculating it was like an inside job, much like Israel funding Hamas in the first place to sort of curb the influence of the secular parties like the PLO and the PNA and having it backfire spectacularly in their faces. Well Hamasas was elected. Right in Gaza. Yes, yes, and there's the West Bank.

Yeah, Hamas is the authority in Gaza. Yes. Another retarded, I mean rhetorical question I have is, why can't any of the neighboring Arab countries absorb the Palestinians? They don't want them. Well, I know. That's a trick question. Well, okay. So there was...

Fuck. Okay. I mean, there were a bunch. There have been a bunch of wars over there. Yeah. That Israel has won. Mm-hmm. And when you win a war, you get some land. Mm-hmm.

That's kind of how it goes. Mm-hmm. You don't get to wage war, lose, and then like start making demands. I mean, unless you're Palestinian. But that's just not how it works. Is real one that land? Yeah, I mean, I feel like, yeah. Sorry, what were you saying?

No, what were you saying? No. Or anymore? There was a lot of talk also from certain right wing elements about how this was like so Bronze Age and I get that they're doing Bronze Age things like raping and pillaging and like parading their spoils of war. But it's not like they're taking war brides or doing concubineage. Like you know at best I feel like they're gonna be bartering the hostages that worst they're gonna be executing them, right? And to me there's like nothing Bronze Age about being, you know, a toddler that throws a public tantrum to get your nanny to hit you so that strangers intervene. I didn't know that we were actually doing aspirational Bronze Ageism.

My phone was just saying, I didn't even read the Illiad, bro. And I think the thing to point out is that this isn't like a conquest by like a based brotherhood or like a piratical band. This is literally like lashing out by kept communist chinchstraps. Well that's what that's like that's the argument right? Is that that I saw various leftists very callously making, which is like, this is what happens when you keep someone in an open air prison and that the Hamas had been pushed to this point due to being so mistreated by the Israelis. And I just sort of, I feel like that betrays their own argument because it justifies keeping

these people in a prison. Like, what do you mean? Like if this is what happens when people break out of their jail, then like you should keep them in that jail because what happened is um-hmm unequivocally bad. Yeah and I mean I uh I'm gonna be a good little leftist here and separate the Palestinian leadership from the Palestinian people like at the end of the day I'm a very bad racist and Islamophob because when I go online and see racist and Islamophob because when I go online and see like footage and photos of dead Palestinian babies, I know. That makes me like, of course.

Obviously. And yeah, and people make the case, the median age of the people in Gaza is 18, so which means half of there, like 2.2 million how children are actually just children, yes. But I think my contempt for their leadership stems from the fact that they don't care about the mounting body count. And in fact, they somewhat enjoy it

because when it goes up, it plays well in the optics war. And in fact, they somewhat enjoy it because What's a death call it plays well in the optics war? Yeah, I mean that guy went on Memory TV or whatever and said that that was what Hamas was up to Mm-hmm. Was that they plotted this attack while like yeah Pretending to care for their citizenry. Well, and that's their only leverage. On the world stage is provoking retaliation and then victim mongering because they can't win a ground war so they have to win the optics more.

But on the other hand, the Jews are no strangers to playing the victim either and doing the small bean act because they can count on the moral referism of America, but they can't come out and say, racial and ethnic supremacy because that doesn't fly if you're a white country. Are they, but this isn't, doesn't seem like a good optics move unless I don't know. again, yeah, like to be vocally pro-Palestine, whatever you usually just to take like I see so many people taking sides or like virtue signaling for the side of Palestine who, A, don't need to, it all doesn't concern them in any way. And I agree with like the Zionist talking point that it is basically anti-Semitic for there to be like a literal terrorist attack in Israel and then for people to stand in solidarity with... Well, it is... I mean, it is...

It models the issue. I mean, it is definitely anti-Semitic, but can you blame them and Israel, the optics difficulty, Israel is facing, is that it is, it's pro-Semitic, it's an ethno state. It's an ethno state. That is, it's foundation and basis. Yes. And so like, can you blame them? I don't blame Palestinians for wanting to kill Israelis, and I don't blame Israelis for wanting to kill Palestinians. I am confused as I'm not confused as to why Hamas enjoys using its own women and children as human shields.

But also, it's because of that's because of their religion, but also I can't, you know, what what option do they have? Why can't they go to Jordan? I don't know. Yeah, I mean Israel isn't a tough spot because it's like whole model of nationhood, I guess, is premised on these ideas, like colonialism and fascism, and these ideas are not so much bad as they are obsolete. It's the oldest hatred they've never had anywhere to go. Yeah. I don't know. Why can't they have a country? Well, because, you know, there wasn't a country there before. Well, Israel exists for more or less a purely ethnocentric reason, but you can't exist

for ethnocentric reasons anymore, as a white country. Why? Because why can't you? There's no such thing as like, ethnocentrism under like a liberal consensus. I agree. I'm not saying I agree or disagree. I'm just saying like the only countries that are allowed to be ethnocentric

are like non-white countries. Well, the Jews aren't white. Well, that's another we can get to that. They have a special, first of all, God chose them. They messed up. There's a new covenant, but they fulfilled the scriptures. Okay. You know, they did what they, what was foretold. But this is an interesting point. And they've been kicked out of everywhere they've ever gone. This is a country that was founded on basically secular but ethnic principles, right? That has to now justify its existence by an appeal to faith and religiosity. I mean, Kadi, he made this case, right? He makes a very convincing case that the religious component is just kind of like a polite

public rationale for what is actually like an ethnic or cultural affinity. There are religious, racial, cultural survival, but you can't be, again, an ethnocentric nation if you're a white nation because that's white supremacy. Right, you can't, right? And it pops, yeah. Well, there are religious, there's the sautomars. Yeah. Well, there's a big religious component in Israel right now. There is, but there's also religious Jews who are anti Zionists like the satmar bosses Who believe that the Holocaust was actually a Punishment for Zionism and that we have they have no business being in Israel at all and that So does that make them prop-Palestinian?

Well, no, but sort of, I guess, but they don't go over there at all. They're all in Williamsburg. Yeah. Um, the two-stage solution should be like, the Israelis get Williamsburg, and the Palestinians get like the Bronx or something. Something like that could work. Yeah. They can break bread with their Yemeni brothers. So a two states dilute solution is... I don't know anything about that. The one state solution is that they would like somehow co-exist. Yeah. Come on. Obviously that's right. Fake. Now it's not going to work.

is that they would somehow coexist. Come on, you see, that's fake. Now it's not gonna work. I do find it a little disingenuous on the part of, well, okay, first of all, I think the most disgraceful position is to be a Jew who is pro Palestine. Oh, yeah, that's disgusting. I'm like, have some fucking self respect. Yeah.

You know, at least, I mean, I'm not Jewish and I can, you know, I'm falling online, like, why can't you? I'm like a de-rassinated global citizen, same. But even I have no patience. For Jews who throw their own brothers under the no patience for Jews who Throw their own brothers under the bus first strangers who would literally kill them Mm-hmm and their families if given the chance I'm down bad Because on the one hand my father is an Armenian from Karabakh and on the other hand My mother is part Jewish and has family in Israel.

So I really am really in the morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To take a position on this. Well, Israel is not perfect. No one's saying that. They just have a right to exist. Yeah, I do. They do.

No one wanted them there. They, you know, I mean, I would agree with that. They established a real stake. They made, first of all, they made the place livable. Yeah. I mean, look, I don't understand how people say that they're Genocideing Palestinians when there's so many more Palestinians there now than there were before the Jews showed up. Yeah, I understand that there's like you know

atrocities being committed by both signs. Mm-hmm. I Just think I don't know. Maybe is Am I a botan paid for XioHor? Like everyone's been saying, like, am I just dumb? Am I just really like so rabbit and emotional that this like, XioProp, like, is very effective on me? I guess, maybe that's the case, but even if so, then I don't know. As far as like Israel's right to exist, it's not like a theoretical right. Don't be mad at me.

Don't be mad at me. That is theoretical right. It's just an existing right that happens to a car because they can and do exist. Yeah. So like what are you going to do? Yeah. And there's nobody right now because we live in this kind of like a post-World War II scenario where there is not like a single global power who's willing to take responsibility.

Yeah. I sound so retarded right now. No, you don't. You sound away. You're making points. And yeah, I mean, the interesting thing about the religious argument, which is fake and gay, by the way, is also that, yeah, there's

this swath of ultra-religious fanatics in Israel, who have an exception from serving in the military and who everybody else deeply resents before necessary for like BB's coalition building, right? Who justify, uh-hmm, Israel and more than just like ethnic grounds. But really, that's what Israel is. It's like literally a model for an ethno state. Is that so wrong?

But one that's like, you know, incoherent which is suffering its own version of like the Western existential decay of gay sex tourism or whatever you want to call it. Vibran LGBT community there for sure. So that's been wild been wild but like okay what? No nothing nothing. I feel so bad because I will I'll say I see it from both sides.

Wow. But I only agree with one side, which is... Well, obviously. You're a reasonable person, Anna. I don't know. I mean, at this juncture at least, yeah, to not stand with Israel is to stand for like death. Yeah, but to stand with Israel is also probably to stand with death in the long run because I'm

assuming that if this is allowed to continue, and Israel reacts violently and Hezbo gets involved and there's a war, then you have like a big refugee crisis on your hands and the Palestinian migrants are gonna go to Europe and the United States and not to the neighboring Arab countries. So you have like more of the same. And it's tough stuff. That one's like the last. That's like $1.00 for... Well, maybe we can finally on this American people. America people. More like possibly like American bodies getting involved and whatever. I don't know.

Ugh. Yeah, it's a horrible nightmare. I don't have a solution. My babysitter today was like, well, I hope you girls solve this conflict. He's a girl fired. We're going to get to the bottom of it. Oh, once once we get down somewhere, this chilled red, they reported that Hamas allegedly be headed 40 babies.

That's been a big yeah. In one of the settlements they rated. And of course, that had like the stench of a solid gassed babies all over it and of course the story was like very swiftly debunked but then Biden brought it up again at a conference Biden yeah sleep woke up on the nap and claimed he had seen the the babies getting their heads chopped off but then a white house spokesperson said that he hadn't actually I mean Nick Lowe's right yeah beheading babies is so beyond the pale even for war the that this is why it makes for such powerful war again. I mean since the point I

want to make this is meaningfully different from like the Assad claims because in one case you're dealing with a secular regime and in the other case you're dealing with Islamist fanatics. So like the reason for debunking the allegations in the first case is because it's you know probably a smear but the reason for debunking the allegations in the second case is because it's totally plausible, which goes against the whole liberal mandate against stereotyping, i.e. noticing. Right.

I mean, they did kill a bunch of kids. It doesn't matter if they physically chop their ads off or not, really. No, I think in the context of propagandizing it does because it's like an additional layer of intention. Well, that's yeah, that's I reached out to Nicklick as I saw him posting about it. And I was, you know, emotional.

And I was like, but they would. I was like, why are you going so hard on them not dropping off the baby's heads when you know that they would. And he was like, well, they've already done. He said very wisely. They've done so many atrocious things that they are broadcasting. Yeah, why?

Why over insist on the worst way they're typing off the baby's heads? They'd be putting it on TikTok or whatever they're doing with like all the other fucked up shit. Mm-hmm. Um, so in that way I was like, wow, yes, okay. It's very interesting that when you look at what's coming out of Israel versus what's coming out of Gaza, you have these tear jerking sentimental stories about the girl in the back of the pickup truck or babies being beheaded versus footage of massive apartment complexes flattened with like dads trying to carry their kids out of the rubble.

Baby himself posted a weirdly like Instagram filtered. The video of the bombs dropping. It's like continue and strengthening. Yeah. My mom called it Benny and the Jets. She's so genius. I mean, to be fair, it seems like pretty hard to be had a baby. Because you know, they're people are all wobbly and they don't need to hold them up. That's when it goes to why would they why would they go through the effort? And I said, it's not that hard. No, because think about it.

If you're holding up the baby and you're trying to be had it with like a sword or a shovel or something, this is how mentally I am. I'm like overcompensating for being like deeply disturbed. Over children dying with like autistically or like sparing out about the logistics. Um, I'm so mentally ill right now, dude. I know, we're literally, we've stooped to like, yeah, we're the lowest in the low.

Um, I was like cradling Lenny in my arms last night. And he like looks like he could be an Israeli baby, but also looks like he could be a Palestinian baby and it just like breaks my heart all around That's a Jewish baby and I know but as much as I like hate Islam, O communism The baby nightly no one wants the baby is like a beautiful Palestinian children. I know being able to walk God's green earth I know and a camp. Being able to walk God's green earth. I know. In a camp of the Saints type scenario. It pains me it really does. But you know, it's a six-eyed world out there and it's awful. Yeah. But what Hamas did is...

Terrible. I mean, it's like, it's Palestinianism 101. It really is like, you force Israel to retaliate with their superior might, because you know that their leadership wants to avoid stacking bodies, whereas you don't care Yeah, and then you go crying about it. I mean Israel does its fair share of like crying to let's be real Of course, yeah, and of course Hamas never stops to

appreciate that they're in this position at the end of the day because Israel has exercised considerable restraint. Very true. Like all things considered if Israel really wanted to blow them off the map, they really wanted to blow Palestine off the map like yesterday. They could do it easily. They could, yeah, they have nooks. And like the only thing that's stopping them is like the Chinese finger trap of the global consensus and that people have really for better and for worse have lost the will to do anything. Not homo. Yeah, so you end up being like in the thrall of these religious fanatics. I'm really loving

this new Dasha Zionist arc. I mean, I don't know. I can't, I can't fight it. I don't think, yeah, I don't know. I also don't have a solution. And I don't think that like, um, Palestinians should be exterminated or God's, I should be like flattened, but I, you know, from the river to the sea Palestine should be free is no it shouldn't I mean if you iterate that far enough like and you think about what that really means it's basically like a giant Islamic welfare state. Well, they want to kill all the Jews. Yeah, openly. Hamas, I mean.

Whereas the Jews at least have a façade of like civility. Yeah, they have like a post in late European flare that they bring to the table. Yeah. That's basically at this point, like written in their DNA. And I just, I don't know. I've always been fond of them.

What can I say? Even after going to the pro-Israel protest. I did. I went to the pro-Israel protest. I did. I went to the pro-Israel demonstration, but then started to feel very trapped and annoyed and some anti-Semitic feelings started creeping up so I got out of there because I'm trying to turn over a send on a Zionist arc, and there weren't very many hot guys there at all. I know, that's the first thing I asked. On Forge. I texted immediately and they're like, are there hot guys?

We all know what I was doing there. You know, also now that I live by the UN, there's many, that's a very exciting neighborhood where many demonstrations take place. by the UN, there's many, it's a very exciting neighborhood, where many demonstrations take place. Yeah. But it was very contrary to the pro-Palestine march that I witnessed, which was very like raucous and annoying. The pro-Israel was very like orderly and nice. And though it did it make

it annoy me and make me feel claustrophobic, it didn't quite like... Menace, you know? Yeah, yeah. I didn't know one. To the Palestinian one menace you Well, they were writing Pissery all on the sidewalk and like yelling at the Egyptian embassy What was what were the demographics of both demonstrations? well The pro-Palestine was a mix of kind of like definitely Arabs, but also like, and random antifall, like sympathizers.

Like, Kiffia wearing lefties. And, at the Israel, there was lots of like Orthodox Jews and like, New Yorkie, normal-lib American Jews. But like, Kippa, Kippa's galore. It's fun to see. It definitely was not. It was much better. It was more, it was better organized.

And sort of broader. And so it was like better. And an hourful Jewish lobby. And it wasn't like a march. It was like they had a stage where they were playing, like a moving, arousing like they had like a stage where they were playing like a moving, arousing like slide show of the victims and stuff and I assume people made speeches that I didn't stick around for. But the Palestinian, which I think was maybe organized by the DSA because I saw people, some various people announcing the DSA. It was like very, yeah, like, and what you see here. The DSA and BLM have come out

in support of the Palestinians. It's really funny to watch liberal American Jews temporarily suspend their commitment to like global race communism to agitate against the Palestinians, even though they'll be back to it next week. I don't know, I don't know. I feel a vibe shift. People have been saying that the Jews are finally having a moment where they're forced to confront

that actually they are white. Well, are they? This is an open question. I'm in a side of the video. The best bit of comic relief in this whole like-sworded and depressing affair comes from watching American Jews cope and see over American blacks, siding with Palestine. Like you're telling me you really didn't see that when coming BLM released that hilarious graphic of the guy on the paraglider.

Yeah, the B-L-L-M Chicago chapter. To express their support. Yeah, and this really has unlocked that ageal debate over the status of Jews in the whiteness hierarchy. the status of Jews in the whiteness hierarchy. Ironically, both Jews and Black, slash Palestinians hate white people, and yet they still can't get along. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha from this one American Jewish Blue Check. Jews marched in Selma, Jews marched for George Floyd. Jews showed up for Black Lives Matter.

BLM is a disgrace. We will all still be there for you guys next time, because that's who we are. But we know who you are. We know where you stand, yeah. Jews walked through the desert, so blacks could run to the nearest food desert. so blacks could run to the nearest food desert.

I mean, yeah, really, I don't know. It comes as no surprise, really, because this is the whole all of the rhetoric of decolonizing, baked into everything is so fragmented and tribalistic in people's minds. I mean, there's George Floyd murals all over Gaza and the rest of the Arab world. You have guys like Larry Summers, who's the former president of Harvard, wondering why we can't have a quote a principal stance of moral clarity, like a blanky condemnation of Hamas terror.

Um, when, yeah, like I kind of like, Loki don't know what anyone's talking about because people are, you know, everyone's like opining. Yeah. It's like the Hitler thing. It's like, I'm like, well, what do you mean? And like, or people being like, um, well, he should be obvious. But I'm not. Oh, well, there was such a swift and unilateral response to Floyd and Ukraine. Why can't we have this when condemning these obviously terrorist attacks on a civilian

population? And it's like, well, you know, because guys like you were near sighted enough to let retarded left-wides take over the institutions. Like, what do you expect? Right. You did this to yourself. This is what decolonization looks like. And on the other hand, it's been really funny watching American black people and other minorities fuck around and find out that there's actually like a weird special exception for Jews in the overall anti-white rhetoric. That's become like so commonplace in academia and media and all progressive institutions. Yeah. Like there's a story of the Black Law student who was dropped by her

prospective employer, like a big law firm, because she expressed some genocidal yearnings and saying, like, this is what decolonialization looks like and talking about how the Palestinian invasion was not, quote, necessary. I mean, that is just so my immediate initial impression, like I said, was like, oh, they're suicidal. Yeah. There's no way this is going to be good for Palestine. I mean, at all, the free speech lib tarden me says that no one should be fired for expressing their political beliefs. Mm-hmm. Even if they happen to be political beliefs that I don't agree with. As in the case of this lady.

But the tribal ethno-narsis in me says, good, the only thing that matters is the friend enemy distinction. And you fucked around and found out. I don't know. I, you know, I straight up don't know how I feel about this because it's like wrong to quote cancel people. Yeah, expressing unsavory political opinions, but on the

other hand, what are you doing, bro, like expressing literal thoughts of genocide? Like now. Yeah, and like read the room. And doesn't that, there's a time where people are more receptive to like, Palestinian sympathize, you know, it's like there's a time when a place,

doesn't that make you fundamentally unfit to act as a civil servant? Well, didn't, it's like there's a time to play it. Doesn't that make you fundamentally unfit to act as a civil servant? Well, did it harbor then publish like a letter basically in solidarity? A lot of bunch of academics were like, oops, we actually didn't read this and assigned it by accident. So labs do always, that's another. Oh, my favorite one was using Justin Bieber Bieber tweeting a pro-Israel sentiment with a pro-Israel photo of like apartment blocks and Gaza being flattened and Kylie Jenner issuing a a pray for Israel message and then promptly deleting because you know that she lost.

She got a hold of her. Well, she lost a tremendous amount of followers too. Oh, yeah. I think they're like, girl, we thought you was Palestinian. Yeah, I'm crazy. Yeah, watching the celebs try to make sense and issue like, yeah, milk toast statements. I'm just like general sadness. Yeah.

I mean, I feel like is anybody surprised that black people are pro-Palestine. Palestinians are the blacks of geopolitics. And the way that like American leftism works is that in any given conflict, you identify who the symbolic black people are and take their side and may issue Appalogia for whatever bad things they do because they're oppressed and don't have agency, right?

That's just like the name of the game. I know. And American Jews like to consider themselves, yeah, a special ally. Yeah. And they're angry because they're because they run the music and sports. And they and they really, I think, helped spearhead, like the civil rights movement and civil rights law. Yeah, they've- And now they're mad because they just found out

that not only them, but all other ethnic minorities are actually all about themselves and only care about the specific concessions their group can get. Hey, I'm not a Jew and I'm, you know, I don't have a dog in the fight and I've taken a Jew and I'm, you know, I don't have a dog in the fight and I've taken a principled stance, but also have no opinion or prescription.

And nobody be mad at me. I'm just trying, I'm just trying to make sense of a messed up world by podcasting through of a messed up world. Hahaha. By podcasting through it. By podcasting through it. My favorite take was from one Twitter user who said that it's shaping up to be a conflict between quote Jewish ethno-narsis who resent white people versus third worldest ethno-narsis who resent white people who will succeed in imposing civility on the other while maintaining

special pleading for themselves. But I have to say that the Jews have been especially annoying and grating. The sun and on. They have been. I mean, they always are. Yeah. But can we say that? Should I redact this? I know exactly what you mean.

I was... Yeah, I know. I was like... I love Jewish people, by the way. Me too, obviously. I'm a big friend of Barry Weiss. I'm less of a friend of Ben Shapiro. They can't help it.

It's their nature. And we love them for it. Cutie, he says this. Oh, cutie, he talked about it. Um, yeah, I was on, I was like on TikTok trying to get to the bottom of things. There's some, okay, well, by the way, there's some TikToks from Gaza. They have in gaza. Yeah, and they have latte art and like there's like, it seems like there's some people in gaza for a central coffee shop. They love pit bulls over there. Actually, just kidding Muslims hate dogs. They hate dogs, yeah. They really do, yeah. Which is another strike against them. I watch this like really horrible like body cam footage of I watched this like really horrible like body cam footage of Palestinian like Hamas insurgents

Shooting a dog in a settlement. Oh my god. I heard that was an idea of soldier. Oh, I don't That's what whatever I don't know. I'm in a lot of My mind is broken on the one hand like my again my like libard sentimental side was like, how can you take the life of a beautiful animal I'm just trying to do? But then on the other hand, it was like, yeah, these people have a different attitude toward cultural elements. Yeah, that's an interesting.

I've always been like this. I was like looking through my like, trove of childhood art. And dug up like a diary entry where I was like, I'm mad that boy's trying to kiss me on the the playground. I want a baby brother animal lives matter. That's the sociopath. Yeah, that's the sociopath party line is getting real upset about animals but it is super upsetting and I love dogs obviously. Yeah. I forgot what it was going to be. But gunning down a dog in a settlement

doesn't seem so bad in the grand scheme of atrocities before that's about a footnote. But what was I going to say? Something about, oh, yeah, I also, like, I saw like TikToks from like, I was watching like a gay Israeli guy, like break it down like the most annoying way. It's like people are being literally taken and they were at a party and they were like my age. And they were like, it's like a party that like, I would go to.

You see? Ha-ha-ha. And it's like, yeah, it's like every season, you're like scrolling the like, conflict TikToks and like it is notable how like, grading. No. Ha-ha-ha.

It'd be funny if Thomas raided Dimesquare and took a... Future Moldovan citizen and nightmare vision hostage. This is a... this is a sovereign house. Not anymore. No. Not anymore. No, just mainly I don't want people to be mad at me. Well, they're not going to be mad at you. They're going to be mad at me. No.

Yeah. No, you haven't said anything. They're going to find a way. I feel like we're getting it at all angles. We're covering all our bases. I mean, if all in goals, recovering all our bases. I mean, if you could say we're being a little blase, but that's just a defense mechanism. I can't.

I can't go on. I get through the kind of exquisite existential pain of living on this planet, some guy in Twitter today was like, is everything just a joke to you? And I was like, well, yeah, kind of, because it has to be. You got to laugh. Yeah. If you can't laugh, might as well die.

Because I'm literally a sensitive young man, and I will fall apart at the seams. No, no, I start getting serious. I'm going to sound like Jordan Peterson, I'm just going to be I'm just gonna be like Weeping. Yeah, yeah, I know Jordan Peterson and it is that guy's a non-a-terr. Oh my god. He's weird high-coos Very he's doing interesting. There's with the tall doors. They call me Judeo Jeater Jordan sounds like a pretty Jewish name to you.

It's sweet how out of touch she is really. I find it... I find it charming. Jordan Peterson complaining about how they call him... Jude and Peterson is almost the same as people insisting that 40 babies were beheaded. It's a little over determined. I mean, it's the 40 babies. It's like they killed a thousand people. Yeah.

They've taken hostages. It's they killed they did kill more than 40 children. I'm sure. Yeah. It's not that it's not that far fadged. No, I know that's but that's why this claim is so sticky because it does sound like it could be plausible. Yeah. Even though it's likely not true but I'm gonna I will choose to remain agnostic on this the Biden video is truly Yeah, I'm like hamboing around like barely knows it's going on. It's so bad, dude

I think the thing with JP is is people are mad at him for living out this kind of nationalistic fantasy living out this kind of nationalistic fantasy through an enlightened proxy when he's consistently betrayed those values on his home turf, like both in his home country of Canada and in his adopted country of America.

Right. I think he still lives in Canada now. Yeah, but he's for all intents and purposes, like an American public intellectual. Right. Well the only place them. Yeah, it matters. Yeah But he you know he started strong against all this like Trams and race stuff and then kind of back paddled Mm-hmm and it makes more sense when somebody like Ben Shapiro or Brett Weinstein does it because after all they are Jewish

Yeah So I get why people are like perennially angry at JP or yeah in my case I have a Fat-ish that I have been tormented by know, it's not just the way it is. Yeah, I watch like a some like TED Talk-ass clip of Ben Shapiro in Israel and the interviewer asked him, like, well, if you're so passionate about this issue, why don't you just live in Israel? And he was like, well, it's because I have millions

of followers in America. And it's more, well, it's because I have millions of followers in America. And it's more important for me to get the message out over there. Yeah, right. Yeah. Quentin Tarantino lives in Israel. By the way, how's he doing? I don't know, he's fine. I'm sure. How's he holding out? I think he's okay. I can't believe they let me get away with that my Ben Shapiro be heading to me on Twitter. I mean X. I really, I was really sure that band. No, no one's dude. It's over. It's over. This is proof that Zog does not exist. I mean, certainly doesn't seem that way. I was fully, I had my little appeal ready. Like, I have a Jewish baby with a Jewish man. I mean, my real, well, you know, I have a special fondness for the m-ling. And I have, look, uh, while I have vague, extremely under informed Zionist

affinities now, I also, um, I have, like, it's like my version of like people being like in the future everyone will be like caramel colored I'm like I want the juice to intermix more Mm-hmm And so eventually everyone will just be like a little bit Jewish and this will secular Jews are doing right Kind of not in Israel Aren't most of their couings at this point intermarriage? Resulting in mischling children. Now, yes. Yeah, yeah, and I thought I think that will you know

But I think also too, you know But it's not enough just for like two mischilings to couple You know because then that's still 50%. That's not, we were not making progress. We want more people coupling. This is elective. We, people who would even, who we are a little bit Jewish coupling with non-Jewish people

at all, eventually eradicating anyone who's not Jewish and making everyone a little bit Jewish. We all have to enter the harem of Thomas Chatterton Williams. Is he Jewish? No. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Jewish supremacy through dispersing Oshkinawzi DNA.

I see, I see. Throughout the world. That's how you instantly replenish the real white supremacy and then right wing fascism. It was making everyone a little Jewish. Yeah. I saw Adam Vrindamussi and I told him I actually identify as Jew.

I'm like, dull, dissolving. Me too. He was like, I hate you so much. Oh my God. I was like, no, I identify as Jewish. And Catholic. And I'm not Jewish at all. Oh, did you see the 23nd me?

What? There was like some leak. No. Apparently, a friend of see the 23andMe? What? There was like some leak. No. Apparently a friend of the potty, but someone told me she's really scared. The 23andMe is going to like cooperate with some Andy's. Like they're harvest, they've harvested all this data and they're using it to keep a list of of Jews as the implication. And you know, Jews hate being on a list. So there is the implication and you know juice hate being on a list. But they love making lists. They do love making lists.

Yeah, which is the most Nazi trade of all. Mm hmm. I mean, this is, this is why I would Hitler support. Is he saying Hitler would support Ruben? Is the implication that Hitler would support Palestine? Thus that is the morally reprehensible position. See, I don't know what anyone is talking about when they invoke morality because I don't... I think that's what he's saying, yes. But that doesn't, because Hitler was so deeply anti-Semitic and wanted the total annihilation of the Jews. because Hitler was so deeply anti-Semitic and wanted the total annihilation of the Jews. Oh no, but the Zionists were in germ, like Zionism predates Nazi Germany.

Okay. And the Zionists initially were in the whole church. Collab, while that's what some Haussads think, but I think early on in the Third Reich there were like Zionists who were part of the Nazi party. Well isn't that the conspiracy theory that Zionism was successful with the approval if not the assistance of the Nazi party. Exactly. I don't know. I might be making that up. That might be some alternate history, is that I'm getting mixed up with real histories. I don't know enough about that topic.

But I think ostensibly I could imagine Hitler supporting a Jewish Bethno State that wasn't like in Germany. You know, that's... Isaac Crazy? Am I insane? Am I? Why can't we just have a bunch of different ethno states coexisting in peace.

Would you go back in time and be had baby Hitler? Would you top off baby Hitler's head if you could go back in time? I have an unpopular opinion on this. Why, the wooden kill baby Hitler? Which is that Hitler was low-key very cute as a baby, based on that one image that you see of him. I don't think he was that cute. That's... He very cute as a baby. Based on that one image that you see of him. I don't think he was that cute. That's, he was a pretty cute baby.

He was okay. That's a very baby positive. Yeah. I'm a baby positive kind of bitch. Yeah, you like wider kinds of types of babies. Yeah. I don't have, I'm not saying a racist thing. What's your ideal type of baby?

It not, there's nothing to do with it. You know, I think Indian babies are super cute, so there's nothing racial about it. Well, Indians are hardcore Zionists. I know. Because they hate Pakistan. Mm-hmm. Because they know what it's like to have some muzzies nearby

and cause in trouble. And they're all like into Hitler, doing they're all like Indian guy. Like Indian hit. So yeah, that's how I feel basically. Uh, is he a such a cute term? Yeah. My ideal baby, Some like Pokemon. I know. My ideal baby honestly comes down totally to personality and vibe.

Okay. And even like a kind of, sometimes I think it's cute when a baby is a little ugly. Yeah. And they make up for it with like, I like a baby that's expressive. Being like sassy. Yeah. And I like a baby that's expressive. Being like sassy. Yeah, and I like a baby that has a lot of hair. Yeah, for me, yeah, I find like very bald baby, very like pink baby kind of yucky.

Can be cute. Yeah, I don't have some like, trad Nazi fetish for like a blonde blue baby that's all like pink in the face. Don't care Like a swarrow or a baby like a baby with a lot of hair Which is why like Indian babies because they Have a very hard for head they come out with amazing hair and they're very patriarchal and they were glad they put glasses on them Like three years old and make them when spelling these. So I don't know, I don't know how they do it and make them

Be their mothers up on a plane Wow Yeah, I like Indian baby. I said this on Twitter earlier today. I'm I'm a real weibo. Is that how you say it? We boo yeah for Persian people. Oh Oh yeah, yeah, I saw this. I love Persians in spite of my ancestral disagreement with their religion. Not Zoroastrianism Islam, but so they are Muslims Persians? Yeah, they're she is. Oh, they're she is, okay, for the most part, yes.

But Iran, and they're... It's funding Hamas, is what I heard. Yes, in Hezbollah. Iran hate Israel. Yes, yeah. Okay. Iran is seen as the puppet master in all of this.

Oh my God, the pal hope in all of this. Oh my God. The pal homestay. The pal homestay. I used to have dinner with this guy from Dubai for money and he used to pay me for my company, but I wish I was paying a more attention because he would rant and rave to me about Israel all the time. And I remember him telling me that the Jews went there specifically to destabilize the Middle East. He had some, you know, he was very advanced.

He was very advanced. They went there to bring peace to the Middle East and then it really ended up back firing. Well, yeah, he was, he would all, I remember he would say they could have gone anywhere, they could have gone to South Africa, they could have gone, you know. I mean South Africa seems like it has its own race war problems. But it's less of like, they don't need a third group in the mix. I reiterate my original point that I made on this podcast in like 2018 which is that they should have just made Florida into the Israel. I know dude. That's the thing. Maddie was kind of saying this. She was like the idea that they needed. Well it's also it's their ancestral homeland, right, because Jerusalem.

But that gets back into the religious thing, which seems really besides the point. And they would be much happier in Florida. And America is not exactly an unsafe place for Jews, Loki at all. Yeah, it's a great idea. Well, that's what everybody's always mad mad at American Jews crying anti-Semitism because It's like American feminists crying rape culture. Mm-hmm. It's literally what would One of the safest and comfortable places where you can exist. Yeah as part of your group my favorite take from all this was Katelyn Flanagan as always amazing

I never want to hear another syllable about campus sexual assault. Mm-hmm. You go girl. Yeah. So true. If people were wondering why I was quote defending Russell Brand, this is why. What? Because also in the hierarchy of crimes and atrocities. Right. Creepy, violent, sexual mayhem that is not comparable to literal street rape, charts very low in the grand scheme of things. Yeah. And a lot of people, I think, were under the impression that I maybe denied the claims against brand

All plough and not bothered to look into them. Yeah, and to tell the truth I could see some of those allegations Being true definitely But again in the grand scheme of things, don't care. Right. Because much worse happens to all sorts of people all over the world at all times. Am I allowed to say that? I think so, yeah, I think. I'd honestly, yeah. The brutality that we are like subjected to, just like human beings were not meant to absorb this amount of like violence, violent imagery. I feel like that, well on a day to day, the poor, the most major argument would be that they

were and that were all like sheltered little lips, like the overwhelming emotional response blah blah blah. No, no, no. I mean, that's... I think the world historically is a vial and violent place. Yeah, but with the advent of photography, you know, the app, like, I mean, this is the, you know, sontag's whole thing on suffering, was that the photography, like, I think that we are, yes, we're uniquely like, some of us,, from sheltered, from atrocity and violence,

but we're also desensitized to images of it and are unprecedented and like very toxic way. There's just no way that this is like good for this. There's another large. This whole conflict, which is like the technological social media layer of it being weird and wrong that humans are subjected to so much indirect violence. It's like the G-check PTSD argument. Oh, the Russians with attitude guys had a good tweet about this. That I retweeted. I'll try to find it. Mm-hmm. Oh, wait, before I do that, speaking of muzzies,

this was a really funny tweet that I encountered. Did I link kids with such a bizarre expression, such an infantile name for what is supposed to be the worst outrage that can be committed? It's like a feminist called rape, groype tongue. Ha ha ha! Hold on, let me pull up the RWA tweet. That was really good to be fair.

You can always count on Russians to be like, piece of shit, nihilists in the streets, but bleeding heart sentimentalists in the sheets. All else aside, I find the atrocity porn to be an extremely bad taste. A bunch of people tweeting corpses at each other all day, a grotesque disk is throw competition with charred children's bones instead of disks all for the sake of likes and retweets depraved undignified. It's awful, it's that's true, yes. And this was, I mean, this was happening, I noticed, with the war in Ukraine, yeah, a lot, but it was a little more like,

I don't know, you had to be on some like telegram channel or something, it was less like, algorithmically designed to like, to warm at you. And with this, it's like- You have to go out of your way to encounter this stuff. And it's funny because I know a lot of people who were like- A little bit at least.

I got caught in the cycle of like watching like Russian and or Ukrainian snuff footage of Russian and or Ukrainian soldiers being drone and having their legs blown off and like crawling over to another patch of land and then putting a grenade on their neck because they wanted to end it all and it really traumatized me, but you really had to go on like Reddit or other forums to encounter that stuff. And now you literally just merely log on to Twitter and there's a charred corpse of a toddler with its head split open. Yeah, it's literally like share this out of morbid curiosity and another thing is like, you know, a lot of people I mean, yeah, people really want the Ryan Carson video people were like, this is bad. This is as low as it can It really does it. It's like smash cut. It's like a week later. Yeah don't...

Don't kill yourself because something retarded might happen. Yeah. Actually, you should probably kill yourself. Because something retarded might happen. Because the... Yeah. And like the resordational intensifying to the world. A lot of these right wing guys will go like,

Oh, well, look at all these women crying about rape and murder and blah blah. It's like, women are supposed to do that. When I still am doing that, you have a problem. And I still maintain that the internet is for women and homosexuals. Yeah, like the kind of cosmetic layer is, yeah. It's the social media, let's say the internet, is, that's for women and gay guys. And it is crazy to me how men in general are so detached

from rape and murder. Even the ones that have kids can be very like I Don't know like kind of distant and joky and non-committal about it Well, I think that's just the internet in general. No That's not men that's like Man online maybe maybe I mean I guess the internet brings out like the worst in people, but it's a I think men in general that brings out like the worst in people, but it's a size. No, I think men in general, which is why they historically wage war, well, women go

them on. Like that, using there's something innate in masculinity. Yeah, that makes it easier for them to like abandon their children, for example. Well, that's, you know, I think you could make the case, and I think Paulia does in various ways that men are less tethered to life due to being, you know, fundamentally separate from the reproductive process. Yeah, they're, they're,

do they even if they have children they're not?'re not. They're to a different sort of life. Well, they're, well, they're productive for that reason, because they're not reproductive in the way that went back. Yeah, their, their idea of life is productive versus women's idea of life, which is reproductive, which you could, so that I guess make the unflattering argument that it's like quote, mere survival and little on the ocean, whatever, but or of two minds. Yeah.

And this is not the right expression. I think so. Matter for Mars, Webinar from Pell. I mean, and yeah, like you said earlier in the app like you can't fault the Palestinians were wanting to kill Jews and you can't hold the Jews for only The Palestinians didn't even agree. It's like people do speaking of survival like I mean, you can't blame people for wanting to survive. Yeah, put your shoes, put yourself in the shoes of your shoes. Put your shoes on. Put your shoes on your two minds

And buckle up cuz things are gonna go on your suicide bomb shoes Take your shoes off at the air local party with bus depot. Oh my god, dude. I Mean I'm old enough to remember When Palestinians were like blowing up is Rayleigh bus loads of people mm-hmm I don't know when were they when were they doing that like in the 90s, okay? Yeah, it hasn't been on my honest. It's not but on my radar I don't know where they when were they doing that like in the 90s. Okay. Yeah. Hasn't been on my honestly has not been on my radar For a moment

Sometimes when we're doing this podcast, I'm like we sound so co here at an articulate and then I listen back to it I'm like wow we are retarded really yeah You all listen to this car. But yeah, but yeah, it's, it's, I don't know. I also, you know, I observe various remembrance rituals on 9-11 every year. I watched this year in Netflix documentary my parents has about 9-11 and like the subsequent. It was very like Netflix, whatever.

But seeing the like Hamas attacks on Israel did like 9-11 is a good corollary for like how... Same more. Well the way I feel when I watched like people jumping out of the World Trade Center and then the like purely emotional like vengeful impulse that follows something like that. That's what Hamas did. They did it in 9-11. It is in the January 6th. In the January 6th and Israel, there's consequences for stuff like that, and they're not just, you know, the thing that's the thing is like, it's not justice, but it's something, and it's like human, and it's a horrible.

I think it's just like the ancient Middle Eastern concept of justice, which is just revenge, an eye for an eye. As a Waban, I have a hard time with understanding consequence. With like any concept of justice that's like a real, politic concept, which is like, justice is determined by the winners. Yeah, like the Nietzschean argument. Well, Israel will win. I'm sure, yeah. It's just, I don't see it, I don't know.

But at the expense of like more than a thousand dollars. But no one will really win in, you know. I'm life will continue, Drugging on, people are talking about like a world War or three type scenario. I'm of the mind that nothing will happen. I mean, something has already happened. Yeah, something happens on

a very regional granular basis that we in like the rich and comfortable west are not really exposed to, but. Well, something happened here called 9-11. Well yeah, but things happen and actually everything will happen. In the fullness of time everything will happen. Yeah, but nothing happens in terms of like they're ever being like a mutually agreed upon resolutions. This is impossible. Oh sure, yeah. No, that's not.

Well, conflict is the driving force of history, which has an end to... Sorry, Fukuyama. It goes on and it gets worse and it's gonna get worse. I've recently been coming around to this idea of there's this whole concept that we live in like a time of liberal consensus, but I think we actually live in a very post-liberal time. Like liberalism is such as dead and buried and we have killed it. Damn. How long have we been going? I was going to complain about all the ADL retards.

Oh yeah. Who are like agitating about barbarians halfway across the globe and urging the international community to really close ranks around Israel when ordinarily they promote policies that impede any sense of national consciousness or cohesion in America and like But I think that that's beside the point at this point Yeah, it is you can see you can see in other words why people are mad at like American Jews for doing what they do Meaning I mean what I just Sure

Yeah We're so stupid. I know we're dumb Yeah, sure Yeah We're so stupid. I know we're done But at least I mean there's some other funny retarded stuff happening currently like chunkweager Mm-hmm of the young Turks remember this guy. He's like the cousin of his on Piker No, what's he up to? He announced a presidential bid even though he what is apparently an immigrant so he's like the cousin of a sonpiker. No. What's he up to? He announced a presidential bid even though he is apparently an immigrant so he's not eligible for presidency.

OK. Which is actually kind of a bold move because I can see that rule being rewritten in our lifetime. Potentially. And it would be funny if he gave his retarded low IQ squint cousin a job in the administration. He's been going off, yeah. We're never getting our land back as Armenians of chunkweager wins the presidency.

Mm-hmm. Our first wigger president. Uh, JFK is gonna run as an independent, I don't know if you saw. Wait, I thought he already was. Sorry, I said J.F.K. again. R.F.K. Jr. sorry. He's going to run as an independent. But wasn't you ready?

No, he was running as a cop. But now he's parted ways. So now he can really let his freak flag fly and make sure he makes no games at all. Mia Khalifa was making a lot of profiles. I mean, she got fired from playboy. Where she had a podcast. Okay. I guess. Where she had a podcast. Okay. I guess. With the mind reels, yeah. Yeah.

She was sounding off. I think she runs playboy. Who runs pornography? I saw a video of her allegedly walking her dog while wearing a mask and scooping the shit with the mask and then flipping it around, putting it back on. In COVID times. I don't know if this seems like that seems baby-heading tear or propaganda. But I don't know. Yeah. Meocleaf is truly a formidable force because she has those big nats and she's their fake other fake fuck Yeah, no she got breast and bile. Okay. I mean how would Hamas react? Well, that's that's the point that you know is it's very

obvious to make is that many like DSA lib tart pro-Palestinian like queer activists would be be headed by I shouldn't say it's like candy man. You say that name three times But that's yeah, that's also also true like Yeah, that is it's shocking when someone like me a when someone who has something to lose comes out as you profile this time wait what do you what does she have to lose her

podcast or whatever yeah sorry I shouldn't have felt that oh my god I felt that, oh my God. Ha ha. But typically that is the domain of, you know, the anti-social and unemployed. Who like, feel, you know, affinity with, you put it very well actually of like, how do you argue with losers?

You know it's like the love is like addicted to being a loser. Yeah classical female warfare tactic. Yeah how do you argue with the have-naughts and the down and outs because when you get into that ring, you are the monster and the aggressor. Exactly. That's the Palestinian question in a nutshell. Once again separating the Palestinian people from the Palestinian leadership. Right. We all know what we're talking about. I have to do my land acknowledgement. I know. I know it sounds like I'm doing my small B-nack. A lot of people have been militating my own language against me, which I resent.

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I don't know, dude. More will be revealed. Yeah, in the coming days. I mean, do we know what's going on? I hope I'm not wrong. I hope I didn't say anything wrong, or I'd think anything wrong, but it's really impossible to... They should have like a special alert for every ethnic group. Kind of like Trader Joe's has those ethnic labels that they...

Trader Jose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, are the amber alerts even effective? Does anyone ever... No, no, no, whenever you get an amber alert, you're like, oh my God, ew, why'd you do that? Yeah. You just swipe up.

Go back to looking at like, snow porn on Twitter. Like what the fuck? for it on Twitter. I got the fuck you. Have the Amber Alerts actually. They're called Amber Alerts because of a girl named Amber. Yeah. Okay. Abinny Alert. That's... Hmm, okay. Ha ha ha! Oh, God. It really is the worst possible world in the world. It is, yeah. It feels that way. And yet, we go on. We podcast through it.

I mean, this latest situation has really given me a desire to like get sober and log off. I don't mean like sober Yeah, yeah. I um... Yeah. I know, but I feel like it's so ex is so close to imploding. You think? You said this before. Yeah. I don't know if it is. I think it's like one of those things. It's like, it's like, it's too big to fail and we'll continue to go on. Because it's like so addictive for people. Yeah, but I don't. Maybe that's, yeah, that's like one of those things it's like too big to fail and we'll continue to go on because it's like so addictive for people

Yeah, but I Don't maybe that's yeah, that's like a Fancy action and maybe that's like a fantasy of element of mine There was like a glitch today where everyone Briefly was like everyone's accounts were Inactive oh really oh I thought I was like briefly. I didn't notice it literally was like maybe five minutes of like Yeah, and I was like maybe this is it maybe It's like maybe this is the final event. I mean we could log off

Yeah, I think I kind of want to I mean I'm like I Made liberal Jews who are expressing ethno nationalist forever, but who will go back to open borders and next week. I'm like, I'm gonna log off now, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it. I'm finally gonna do it. I mean, I also relate to Israel because I feel like I get provoked

into being an annoying bitch and then everyone gets mad at me. So I relate to that experience. But I have brought that upon myself due to my crippling internet addiction. Yeah, you have to reset. You're like dopamine mean it's broken and there's nothing after watching all the Palestinian baby snow porn that's what I'm saying off of a poor taste and like ill-time joke

Yeah, no, there's about bench peor O being beheaded that your quote online friends put you up to the you want to tweet that your quote online friends put you up to the end of your wands of tweed. I'm, uh, I don't see myself logging off, but I am trying to be less combative and more like kind of vague, annoyingly vague and jovial, rather than like, uh, feeding the impulse to like a ship host and feud with people to brawl. So we'll see like you're making any progress. Yeah, I haven't been particularly inflammatory I think. All right, at least have enough like plausible deniability in that. Where does Jake Flora stand on the Israel Palestine question? I don't know. I can't.

That's he's my Palestine. He's my Gaza strip. He's he's out here attacking me for my religious beliefs. And then I call him a faggot and I get in trouble, you know. He's spiritually homeless. And he's probably literally. Honestly, I don't know what's up with him. I don't. He's spiritually homeless. He's probably literally Honestly, I don't know what's up with him. I don't I like I Can't block him because I don't want to give him the win. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I shouldn't even be taught I can't believe I'm talking about Jake Flores in the year 2023. I'll tell you why though

It's because the people that you actually actively lash out at are Not folks me are not the people? I feel bad for my never- That really keep you up at night. They're not the people that really hurt you. What do you mean? Well, the people that you fight with are not serious opponents.

It's true, yeah. Yeah. Mm. The ones that really like cut to the bone, you would never dare even bring up and play conversation because it would be revealing too much. It's true. Mockey Valley. Not even you would just be like Jordan Peterson like crying on the world stage. Yeah. Though I still at the end of the day, I do have a lot of love for that guy.

I feel for him. Yeah, I'm as a Benzo addict. I also have the solidarity. I was a gay nerd. Yeah. As a gay weeping loser, I am relatable. He just like me for real. Here's the question. Would you have sex with Ben Shapiro for World Peace?

Yeah For World Peace. Would you have sex with Ben Shapiro regular? No, I need some incentive, but it wouldn't Far from the worst person For me, but another you know Just another one Oh, I ve Damn I don't know I don't know why I'm by

Delicious tacos. I didn't one why I'm... well, delicious tacos, I didn't know what of it, some stacks that I feel about Jews the way he does about Asians. Which is what? Hornie. Hornie, yeah, and like, yeah, I have this very... I have this very complicated, I don't know. I am obsessed with that. Well, this is like the... I am obsessed with them. Well, this is like obsessed with them I want. This is like the question of, I'm sad about this. The right of Israel to exist. It's like, Jews really grind everyone's gears because they insist on being morally superior.

And in the past past they justified it because by being religiously chosen, now they justify it by being the kind of like moral arbiters of the world, which is annoying, but the reality is that they are superior in one way because they literally live free in everyone else's minds. I mean, very true, yeah. And as you pointed out, very astutely, Hitler literally lost. He sure did.

Yeah. So, they are the chosen people in a way. They're the chosen people of the discourse forever. So, what happened to me that I would have, I would be, comes with fixated. Well, I have friends who've never been with Jewish guys. I mean, or rare like my very good friend, Julia, Polish girl, we went to high school together, you know, very similar I don't know, was it like a, was some kind of Woody Allen, like, I wish it any haul to form a number. I did report and it's complaint very young.

I don't know. You were rebelling against your father. Yeah, something like that, but I know Slavic girls who aren't afflicted with my particular. I mean, my confession is that I wasn't particularly afflicted until recently. Because it never occurred to me. Interesting.

Why? Because, hmm. Yeah, I guess they were in the Americans' Southwest, they were sort of exotic. Unlike in the Northeast, perhaps. I've always been, yeah, they were sort of exotic, unlike in the Northeast, perhaps. I've always been, yeah, intrigued and beguiled by the chosen people. I don't know what it is. And the real, you know, they're compelling because they're polarizing. Yeah. But even before I even kind of understood, or maybe I always have, I always knew

that it was like the oldest hatred or whatever. Hmm. The gayest hatred. The gayest hatred. But, I mean, the real sad thing about this conflict is now I can't go on my sex tourism trend. It is real Israel. It's really put a damper on my plan. They just change the rules of birth, right?

To permit over 30. Shicks, yeah. To permit the horny of shicks. You have to write it down. You have to write it down. About why you love Jews so much, you don't even have to have like a droplet of blood. They kind of do like anyone kind of go on birthright in a way, but when I was briefly going to convert to Judaism, the rabbinical student that I met with told me that once I got married

to Adam Friedland, I could go on something called honeymoon Israel, which was always a free trip to Israel for interfaith couples. Well, what's the point of that? To, well, what's the point of birthright? To get Jews to prograte. Yes, but also to like indoctrinate them into like a Zionist agenda based on. Yeah, but if you're an interfaith couple presumably you're already indoctrinated into a Zionist agenda based on. Yeah, but if you're an interfaith couple, presumably, you're already indoctrinated into the Zionist agenda.

Wow. One way or another. They're just, they love giving away those trips to Israel. And I would take one. And things weren't so, if the block wasn't so hot. When things settle down, I'm gonna, yeah. It seems like a nice place to visit. I mean, it seems amazing.

They did an amazing job. The Jews made Israel really nice. Yeah. And that's why people want to live there. They irrigated. They created some cabuts as... Can I say one thing? What?

It's, it's not a nice thing to say. No, you know. You're a top-class. You're a top-class. F***. Girl, you sound like Marty Curse. Who's that? He's like my favorite Zionist. Yeah.

I mean, he married. I'm just saying. Don't get mad at me. Oh, this is so embarrassing. So, I'm a machine fortune. And then he founded the New Republic. Okay. On her dime, and then proceeded to groom a bunch of sensitive young man followers in the ways of Zionism and Gasex. And he was a

very like beleaguered figure on the right for a while. And he famously said that Arabs couldn't invent a microchip because they couldn't venture a hundred meters from their door. couldn't venture 100 meters from their door. I mean, I don't know. I mean, his hottest take was essentially that Gaza would be an open air prison with or without the Israelis. Yes. Here's a quote from Yasser Arafat. After signing the Oslo Accords, which contemplated

an eventual two-state solution, Arafat made the following statement to Arab leaders in Stockholm. We have the PLO will now concentrate all our efforts on splitting Israel psychologically into two camps. Within five years we will have six to seven million Arabs living on the West Bank and in Jerusalem. All Palestinian Arabs will be welcomed by us. If Jews can import all kinds of Ethiopians, Russians, Uzbeks, and Ukrainians as Jews, we can import all kinds of Arabs to us. The PLO plans to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for the Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion. Jews won't want to live among us Arabs. Well, that's why the Israeli's finance to us. To make their lives unbearable? No, to curb guys like that. Uh-huh.

Because they figured that religious fanaticism would be like gay and retarded and untenable. Right. But it's meaningfully backfired on them. Because they've suffered a lot of casualties. From the religious extremism, yes. Yeah, but they were like trying to handicap, yes, or RFA, and his followers. But who was, like, the reason there are even so many Palestinians is because the PLO... I mean, imported them to torment the Jews. No? Oh my God, am I not allowed to say to torment the Jews. No? Oh my God, am I not allowed to say, I'm sorry, I'm just too drunk.

Am I not allowed to say this? I'm sorry, I read the, that's just what I heard from Alan Derschwein. Okay, I read the wrong book. If anyone wants to recommend me a book, like I'm open to changing my mind, literally. It's my, I do it all the time. I'm probably well, I'm feeling, I don't know.

Now, it's like, now's not the time, but I'm, refute me, please. I don't know, okay. Oh, okay, Okay, just too much in Tifa Wasn't that the name of that podcast that that slot had It was called like anti-fada or something. Yeah, Jamie Puck. Yeah, yeah. Wasn't that even for a big breasted on gold Harrier Keys or yes?

Yeah, yeah. That was the name of her show. I don't think the two are related. With Sam Seater, yeah. It's an etymological fluke. Yeah, just seem similar. Wait, I'm going to Google what anti-fotomines? Nice. It's like a G-Hod. I'm on the Wikipedia page of Sayed Kutub who's the founder of the

Muslim Brotherhood. I don't know why I'm doing that. Nice. I mean I looked into some anti-sionist arguments from the Jews and, you know, I've done some research, but once again, my mind is broken. I don't have coherent thoughts. I can't make sense of all of this. I'm like traumatized. Yeah, and mentally ill. But it's funny that Antifa and Intifada have like the same ring to them, even though they're like

etymologically different. Yeah. Oh, Intifada means shaking off an Arabic word that means to get rid of. I see. It means to get rid of the Jews. That's what it means, yeah. And then instead of trying to like get rid of the Jews, they never will. No.

Anyway, well, because I don't know. Well, okay, I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna just stop. We're gonna just stop. We're just gonna stop talking. We gotta stop talking, okay. See you.

See you. See you. Bye. you