Regulation Podcast - Different Countries, Different Decades // Geoff Still Can't Take Photos [115]

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

Geoff, Gavin, and Andrew talk about Death Diving, Go Go Now Joey bellyflop, tea towel Gavin redux, Fuxedo, Chocotaco fiasco, popsicle talk, American Movie & Hands on a Hardbody, Eyes Wide Shut, Kubrick, movies, ice cream cakes, cookie puss, and being a cereal history podcast. Download the full audio at: https://bit.ly/3ataI0e  Want to contribute to bits? Email what you can do to [e-mail]  Sponsored by ExpressVPN (http://expressvpn.com/FACE), Honey (http://joinhoney.com/face), and Shopify (http://shopify.com/face). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is a Rooster Teeth production. Let's get rolling all around. This is episode 115. I don't know volumes or seasons, but that is the episode number. I don't understand why you don't do the intro anymore. Okay. Okay, Gavin, can you do the intro, I guess? What is my password?

What is my password? What? I need to sign into my work email to upload this file, and I don't know my password, and it's not saved on this Windows. How are you not just permanently signed in not saving I don't use this computer typically Have you tried one of the F keys? I haven't so I'm gonna sign out on my Mac And then it has my password auto-filled and I can click show me what the password is And then I will put it in my Windows computer and then I can upload the file

Hey everybody welcome to episode 115 of F*** Face And then I will put it in my Windows computer. And then I can upload the file. Hey, everybody. Welcome to episode 115 of F*** Face. Starring an American from the 70s, a Brit from the 80s, and a Canadian from the 90s. The most diverse podcast cast that consists of three white men. Different countries, different decades. Wow. That was good.

That was a great intro. How was the energy on that one? I don't usually do it, so I never know. It was fantastic energy. Very high energy. It was a disturbing amount of energy to come from you. It was. And for a second episode, too. Yeah, you're coming

out strong i would say i feel a little lost not knowing what volume or season we're in i'm just gonna take me well i know the fucking answer but i'm not gonna oh my god oh my god what is that 220 i'm sorry while we're doing this i'm watching i forgot uh two weeks ago or last time we recorded uh we i think it was episode 113, I mentioned that I had discovered this new sport because of comment leavers called death diving, and I asked if y'all were familiar with it. Oh, I forgot about that. We're gonna

explain that. We were gonna explore it because I think it might be a, I think there's a real, real good chance that it could be something that we could get into. Kind of like a, like maybe a beanhole thing. Let me send you a video. This is a sport from Norway.

It's called death diving. It's a seven-minute video. I'm not recommending you watch all seven minutes, but I would say you'll get a good gist of what's going on around 2.05. Okay, so 2.05. Yeah, and then you feel free to bounce around after that, but you'll get a sense of what death diving is. All right.

Playing for 205. Werner Grohn. Oh, no. Oh, no. It's just, is it just belly flops? Is it just the worst? Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, God.

That's the... How do they... Is it like splash size and sound? what is the judgment right here i don't i don't exactly know i think but he bottled it there because he tucked his head at the last minute he also brought his knees up that wasn't a great i think that's i think that's actually a part of it because some of the i don't know i did a bunch of reading on it uh that i don't remember now but uh i think that you're allowed to tuck at the last minute to keep from killing yourself.

Okay. Yeah, because I remember when we went swimming for your birthday, Jeff, Go Go Now Joey did a belly flop on purpose. And he just swam to the side and just sat quietly for about 20 minutes. Dude. It's so much pain. Did you call Go Go Now Joey? joey uh yeah i love that name i i'm gonna convince i gotta get his other friends to call him that make it his actual nickname uh i uh i had a similar thing where i did a dive it wasn't a belly thought but i just landed wrong

on my nuts and i had to swim over to the corner by the waterfall for about five minutes and just like catch my nut breath. I'm so worried about your testicles at the moment. Physectomy aside, when we were digging the bean hole, you were having problems because your nuts were flying all over the place and every time you hit the ground with a hammer.

Dude, when you become a big boy, your nuts drop and then when you become an old boy, your nuts just keep on dropping. Anyway, I think that we should start training. And I think I could see Gav competing in death diving. We just need to go to Norway. It's only a competition in Norway. But they have the world championships and stuff.

And they take it very seriously. And I feel like we could be good at this and has someone died while death diving i don't know uh check out the guy at like five oh like five like 458 five look at that dive let's have a look oh a little smaller younger guy oh he's really. He's got a massive run up. He's psyching himself right up. Look at this. It has to be a splash run, right? And the guy's like, that was beautiful.

It's just so ludicrous. I've never seen a graceless dive before, but that's what this sport is. He was just like a board. That's why I was like a board twisting in the wind. He got tens. That was perfect according to some people.

That's fucking crazy. That's why I think we can excel. I think like if there is a group of people that are more graceless than us i'd like to meet them i'd yeah i this seems like a lot of potential it's like they removed all the skill and you just have to have pain tolerance yeah if i could if i could change the focus of the company rooster teeth completely and point it in a direction it would be in face getting into professional bean holing and death diving i would put the resources of the

400 person company behind behind just those two things it would be all face all the time and we would be we would probably be training in norway right now that would be quite the pivot for the company it would confuse people quite the it's quite the pivot for the company. It would confuse people. Quite the pivot for a niche sport, but you know, gotta take big risks. Remember that amazing dive you had, Jeff, like off the boat into the little ring

like you went right down the middle? They'd boo that. They'd get a 1. They'd get a.5 here. They'd fucking hate it. Yeah. I think I would come up with like an innovative nut slapper where maybe you could see my fucking nuts reverberate as they hit the water or something or maybe like maybe i go backwards and so the last thing you see as my body goes under is my nuts floating above me for a second that would be a cool dive if all of these sound like tricks

in a tony hot game i'm even more into it like we just need to keep that going we need the combos i'm all about this death diving oh anyway thanks to the community uh the comment leaders who who posted that on the subreddit that's where i saw it and that's just because they posted just because it was very us in vibe yeah i think so i think they were like i don't remember exactly but i think they were like these guys are a water podcast or they're into water sports uh they should check out this sport uh they like to dive so much and then i was like it was like a whole night of my life was just sitting in my in my uh library next to the shelves just watching death diving compilations i've really enjoyed uh building up this newer community of regulation

listeners because i feel like so many of them just get it they just get us like even just the act of sending us that is like absolutely yeah no it's perfect like they understand us they're like we got you buddy here you go no it's the best they are the the regulation listeners in the comment levers out of 19 and a half years of building communities, nothing has come close to those people. They're phenomenal. They make albums. Albums.

Albums. Not album. Albums. Have you seen the Lego animation thing? Yes. I met that guy. I met that guy in Atlanta when I was at a convention. He was awesome. And I've been meaning to. He Instagrammed me. I suck so bad. Ben met that guy in Atlanta when I was at a convention. He was awesome.

And I've been meaning to, he Instagrammed me. I suck so bad at, Ben Davis can tell you this, and Rebecca, I suck so bad at social media and getting back to people, but I fucking,

I think that kid's brilliant. Yeah, I believe his channel is That Brendan Kid. Yeah, if you want to see it. Yeah, I wrote that down. I want to talk about that. There's also somebody who made a fucking

child kicker game. I believe their name is Mediocre. It's so cool. It's amazing. I played it with Emily for a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. It's so cool.

It's just the listeners and commonly everybody's so sweet and creative. And yeah, I completely agree. We have a wonderful community of people. Yeah. I'm reading into death diving. This actually provides some context that makes me like it even more it consists of people jumping from a 10 meter high board and landing in the water with their arms and legs spread out like an x and they need to hold the pose for as long as possible

before they hit the water so it seems that's the scoring criteria you're trying to get as close to a belly flop as you can without actually getting a belly flop. Yeah. A 30 foot belly flop. You said it was 10 meters, right? 10 meters. A 30 foot belly flop would fuck you up. Like you do real damage to your to yourself. 100 percent.

Which, by the way, goes back into why it was so fucking crazy that that idiot jumped off the top of the penny packer bridge in austin uh and almost died yeah that was 120 feet or whatever jesus just ridiculous he didn't go for the flop though right no i think it was 190 feet no he didn't go for the flop he would have been like he would have been flat like he got run over by by one of those by one of those rolly things fucking Acme cartoon it would have looked like a fatality of Mortal Kombat if he went for the flop just all of his skin

would shoot off it would be terrible it would have just been that dude's soup yeah de-gloved his whole body this is great I like this sport a lot I'm gonna do some more research into death diving

I think it's very cool since the last recording we've seen a lot of people attempting to draw me on the tea towel just from hearing it some very good attempts it's been so much fun I enjoyed so much looking through that on the tea towel just from hearing it. And some very good attempts. It's been so much fun.

I enjoyed so much looking through that again and realizing all the poor kids that didn't realize it would be copied. So like their names are backwards. I did not notice all the backwards names on my first look through. Oh, there's backwards names? Oh, a bunch of them are backwards. Yeah, it's fantastic.

I assume they just scanned it though, wouldn't they? I don't know, but there's a bunch of names that are backwards on that that list i don't know how that happens even even katie uh superfan jack's wife uh sent me her interpretation oh did she really it was very good yeah we uh we gotta do something with that like we were talking about maybe you know how we had the ian pocket tea like maybe doing something like that or just just with the picture of gavin uh on a pocket tee or i don't know it's uh we obviously we need to make tea towels at some point but i want to get the community involved in that yeah um it's just such a it's just such a charming image i don't

know how to describe it it's so sweet i'd love maybe next rtx to have an absurdly large tea towel the hairball alone is just my favorite yeah the hairball is great yeah oh so i wish that was a tradition everywhere as you said jeff i wish i had one of those that i could look back on yeah i think it would be nice to do a shirt that was uh you and andrew draw yourselves now but then we use my one from 1991. That is a pretty funny idea. I was telling Gavin, I had a real face of an idea. And for the record,

I think Gavin's idea is way better direction to go than this. But I was thinking, wouldn't it be funny if we just had one shirt at all times and to have a new shirt, we'd have to discontinue the old shirt. So like if you wanted to buy a shirt right now, your only option would be anal passage until we replace it with Gavin's tea towel shirt. And then it's the only shirt you can get until we come up with another joke. And we're only ever allowed to have one shirt in production at any given time. but we'd go

out of business pretty fast so let's not do that i just yeah i like it because it's a guaranteed way to lose money well i mean i'm i'm happy that we got given three thousand dollars to buy a suit i can't do it i cannot complain about that that was like and i you know kudos to to the higher ups at rooster teeth for for having some faith in us because uh you know there could be zero return on that investment it very likely could be zero return ever on that investment so it's very sweet of them oh i mean i bought the port-a-potty return but yeah that's true i like this work both ways i think it's it's all gonna be worth it when i see gavin in that suit i am so excited to see that.

So have we talked about recreating the poster on the podcast? We did, yes. Yeah, I think so. And calling it the f*** seater. The f*** seater. Oh, I forgot. I emailed Kevin Donovan about it. Haven't heard back.

Why won't you stop emailing him? I just thought it would be a fun piece of trivia. I was just like, hey. You're such a stalker to him now. No. He's like, dude, you're not going to believe it. Remember that weird kid that kept trying to get me on his podcast? No.

He kept telling me how much he hated my movie. He just told me he bought the tuxedo from the movie, and he's like, I don't know what to do. Is he going to be going through my trash next week? No, I will never reach out to Kevin Donovan again. I hadn't reached out since the last time I attempted to Which was months ago Because I just died

Based on our reaction last time, why would you do it again? We got away with it I thought it would be, wouldn't you want to know? If you directed a movie called The Tuxedo Wouldn't you want to know where The Tuxedo ended up? I would No, I think I would hope that it was in good hands and not ours Well, I would, the best hands, I would argue

I'm so excited to see you in the tuxedo because I think you're going to be so terrified about ruining it in some way. You know what? You should tell him. You should email him one more time. Why don't you email him? Well, hold on. I'm not done. Just say like, hey, I just want to let you know we paid $3,000

for the tuxedo, so I don't know if you want to talk to Box Office Mojo or how this works, but maybe you could get that added to the theatrical post. Boost it up a little bit more for the tuxedo, so I don't know if you want to talk to Box Office Mojo or how this works, but maybe you could get that added to the theatrical post. Boost it up a little bit more for the historical figures. A little boost, yeah. I'd love if there was data somewhere where someone was like, why is the tuxedo

spiking in interest? What has happened? Like we did with the Don Zimmer cards, where they were like, is this like a money laundering scheme? What is happening? Why is this? If we could create a rush on the tuxedo in any way, that would make me very happy.

Man, did I tell you guys that someone, some wonderful comment lever gave me an autographed Don Zimmer baseball card at RTX? No. That's awesome. I have it right here. I'll take a photo and send it to you guys. It's really fucking cool.

And it is his signature because I have his little face autographed. I saw there was one on Breakshit that I think you opened. Do you have two now? Or is this the same one? That had an autograph? A Zimmer that had an autograph?

Was it a baseball? No, that was a baseball. That was an autographed baseball. Yeah, I have that too. I have that too. And this is a card. Oh, that's the worst photo I've ever taken. I'm going to send you the bad photo.

I'll send you the good photo and then the bad photo. I'll just send them both. I wonder if we'll be able to tell which is good and which is bad. Oh, yeah, you'll be able to tell. Oh, I'm so excited. Let me find Discord. Oh, you're going to love this. Yeah, sure, probably. word oh you're gonna love this uh yeah sure probably

wait how have you made him wink in the first one how have you done that you've you've taken don zimmer's eye in the first photo i don't know i've never seen that happen you've changed how he's winking you did a live photoshop i don't know i didn't do anything differently from photo to photo i swear that is creepy maybe what if i'm a good photographer but no my phone is possessed what if i am what do you mean i'm not i want i was a professional photographer i was a fucking photojournalist for five years i won awards i think it's a much greater chance that my phone is possessed probably by the same demon that possesses gavin sock i was about to say has

gavin held your phone before because if so that's just cursed you're right. You should eventually make a coffee table book of all of Jeff's shittiest photos. Oh, I would hate that. To open a photo book and have to flip the book to the side to try to get the right perspective. That'd be so annoying. But treat it like not tongue-in-cheek at all. Treat it like Apple would treat their frickin' design book. That's very funny. Hey, Gavin, you're from England,

and Andrew, you're from Canada, and Eric, you're from America. Are you guys, I know Eric is, but you guys, did, when you guys were growing up, did they have a thing called the Choco Taco where you live, like an ice cream dessert? Had a feast. So you didn't have like a little,

like a taco where the, like a little, like a taco, like a crunchy taco where the taco shell is made out of like ice cream cone material and inside is ice cream and then chocolate, like a hard chocolate top

with nuts on it? You guys never, you never had one of those? I'm very familiar with the Choco Taco, but I don't know if we had it in trucks. I was always a,

like Spongebob. Or in like stores or whatever? Yeah, I don't think I've seen it in a store either was always a Spongebob. Or in stores or whatever? Yeah, I don't think I've seen it in a store either, but I associate the Choco Taco as an ice cream truck item, and I would always go for the Spongebob with bubblegum ice. That'd be my go-to.

I didn't really explore the board. I think there is some bullshit shenanigans going on right now in America. That Choco Taco has been around my entire life. The Choco Taco was so popular that they sold it at Taco Bell as the dessert for a while, for a couple of years.

It's by Klondike, who's a huge company, right? They just announced that they are discontinuing the Choco Taco and it's going to be gone forever. I find it really fucking hard to believe that an iconic dessert like the Choco Taco that has been so successful. Name another. You ever see a drumstick at McDonald's? No, because they

don't sell those kinds of desserts at fast food restaurants, but they were selling the Taco Bell for years. It's everywhere. I've never met a person who doesn't love a Choco Taco. They're fucking phenomenal. And now they're announcing that they're discontinuing them forever. I'm gonna say right here, I fucking bet you in less than a year, they will bring back due to quote unquote popular demand that Choco Taco and it'll be everywhere. It's bullshit.

They have, they are not removing it forever. I mean, are you buying this thing? That's nonsense. They're liars. They are, as Davide as Davide on this season of Love Island UK would say, they are a liar. They are liars. You are liars.

You're actors. That's bullshit, dude. It is bullshit. It's a total marketing ploy. They're taking Choco Tacos away from us to make us miss them so that we can pay more for them when they come back. It's just like the goddamn Mexican pizza.

And I'm not standing for it. Do you think it's just the machine that makes them broke and there's only one in the country and they're just getting it repaired? Yeah. What is their reasoning for getting rid of the Choco Taco? I don't think they said that. It looks really good. Why remove the Choco Taco?

It does look delicious. Because I know what the twinkie... They are delicious. I think Hostess went out of business, right? And then some other company bought Hostess. And then that's why it came back. Here we go. Unfortunately, the Choco Taco has been discontinued

in both the one count and four count packs. Over the past two years, we've experienced an unprecedented spike in demand across our portfolio, and we have had to make some very tough decisions to ensure availability of our portfolio nationwide. Here's why that's bullshit. Do you know I'm a big fan of Klondike bars? I love Klondike bars, right? You know how many different fucking varieties of Klondike bars are? There are a thousand different of Klondike bars are there are a thousand different fucking Klondike bars I'm pulling them up right now hold on a second no

thank you don't want that there is the crunch bar with Nestle crunch there's the plain Klondike bar there's the Reese's Klondike bar there's the no sugar added vanilla Klondike bar there's the there's the uh the cookies Klondike bar there's 37 different ways to eat a Klondike bar. There's the cookies Klondike bar. There's 37 different ways to eat a Klondike bar. Cut one of those. Cut the crunchy Klondike bar and let me keep the Choco Taco. It's fucking criminal.

It'd be hard to make one. That's, I don't think I could. They make a mint chocolate Klondike bar. I love mint chocolate but maybe maybe cut that one out and let me keep my choco taco it's even

it's it's integral to the full flavor lineup look at this you got you go to their website you want to see the full flavor lineup you're telling me you're telling me look at these fucking desserts you're

gonna you're telling me that these motherfuckers, sorry, I'm trying to pad while I figure out how to upload from my desktop. You're telling me that these motherfuckers put the,

the first thing you see in the full flavor lineup on their website is a Choco Taco. Then a stack of, a variety of Klondike bars, then two different ice cream cookie bar, and an ice cream sandwich bar.

You're telling me the Klondike, the Choco Taco isn't doing well enough to compete with those? It's a fucking star player. You know what I don't see there? A drumstick anywhere to be found. They make a million drumsticks, but it doesn't make it into the full flavor lineup image because it's not as popular because the Choco Taco

is revered and everybody loves it. They are fucking us over. We can't let it happen. Also, we should try to make our own. I really want one. That looks quite good. Yeah, that looks delicious. Yeah, because it's working. Maybe it's the thing, Jeff, where people don't appreciate what they have in the Choco Taco.

You say that it's been around forever. Maybe it's just like it's always there. People't appreciate it they're not getting them and this will maybe create a wave i think the closest that i've had to it is probably a feast which doesn't have the waffle part but it's like the same sort of chocolatey outside and then there's like a chocolate shell yeah kind of kind of similar property like you wrap that in a uh in a tortilla uh a crunchy tortilla made out of uh a waffle cone and that you'd have that that'd essentially be it i have an issue with freezies that has been my summer treat and i don't know is that what you guys call them is that a canadian thing after

last week was cheesies and now it's freezies yeah is it freezies do you know do you have freezies that what you call uh oh you the uh like ice pops yeah yeah yeah i eat these like uh i probably eat about 12 of these a day yeah i've been struggling to get them because i was told by a grocery store that there is a shortage of the plastic they use to contain them so it's been it's been a struggle it's been a tough summer to get those that has been my great loss as far as oh dude i don't think i've ever seen a choco taco in a store in canada i'm sorry to hear that because they you can get these like these are everywhere in austin like you go to every grocery store and they're just like oh those yeah exactly those are called freezies at least where i live and uh yeah it's been tough i've struggled to get them.

I saw a stupid, you know how TikTok has like, well, you might not because maybe you're not on TikTok, but TikTok has a lot of like life hack videos. Well, there's one where you can take one of those and like you snap it in half when it's frozen real fast and then you get like two sides

so you don't have to like cut the end off. I've tried it with every single one I've had this summer and I've had zero success. I don't believe that's true. Yeah, I think that's... Wait, you're trying to splice? What? You're trying to, like, join two together? No, no, no. You can, like,

when it's frozen, supposedly, you can just... Like, the way it works, Gav, I know you don't have a lot of... You don't eat a lot of sweets, but the way it works is that's frozen, and then you just take scissors and you cut the end off, and then you squeeze it out. But the life hack on TikTok is you just take it, both ends, and you snap it in the middle. Oh, I see. And you don't need scissors.

You have like two ends. Oh. But it does not work. Isn't it like how wrestlers, they would kind of fuck the shirt up a little bit before ripping it to make it possible? I feel like that's what was done with your Freezy video. Yeah. It's like when you score something, you're about to throw somebody through in a movie.

Yeah, exactly. Do you guys, did you guys ever see American? What was it called? An American, American movie? No,

but I'm aware of it. I've never seen it. There's a scene. Uh, if you haven't seen it, it's a documentary about these dudes up in, I don't know, like Wisconsin or Minnesota or somewhere trying to make a horror movie.

And it's a really great, endearing movie. You should watch it. Yeah, those two dudes. The dude on the left is the guy, he's like the creative guy. And then the dude on the right is his best friend, Mike, who's just like a weird stoner metal dude. And it's just them. It's somebody documenting them trying to make their horror movie called Coven, except they call it Coven. It's really funny every time they say it. and there's a scene where he's in a fight in a kitchen and they score a uh they score like a kitchen cabinet door so they can ram his head through it but they barely score it and it's just a scene of them like ramming his head into this door over and over again he's like he almost dies he's like maybe we should cut it more. And that's

what I think about every time I think of scoring. Just watching him get slammed into it. I haven't scored anything since that chair that you had at the Fourth of July party. Dude, that's callback joke of the year right there. That's a great callback. You were afraid you wouldn't have anything for this episode, Gavin.

I whipped that one up. That's great. I've always wanted to see that documentary. Have you seen Hands on a Hard Body? Of course. That's one of my favorite. Oh, it's so good. I think it should be required watching for anybody who wants to live in Texas.

I feel like that movie explains Texas. I feel like that movie explains Texas. I just I feel like anybody should see it. It's such a perfect just all the characters in it are fantastic. There's so much natural comedy in it for people that haven't seen it. It's documents a competition at a car dealership where people have to hold their hand on a truck and the last person standing wins the truck and it falls like 10 or 12 people that are part of this contest. And it is incredible. It's got everyone from like the young kid who's trying for the first time, who needs a car to the grizzled vet who had won in the past and has decided

to come back. And he's like considered the greatest at this random thing. It's awesome. Great documentary. Yeah, you should, you should have your seat again. What's the name of it again? Hands on a hard body. No, I've you ever seen a gap what's the name

of it again hands on a hard body no i've don't seen it there's oh it's one of my favorite lines from any movie ever whereas there's this guy that guy thank you jeff that is the fucking guy he tells this story about how they got a air conditioner that was for a walmart installed on their house because they're like we're driving by and they were shutting it down so i got it real cheap and he's like so happy and he has he's missing almost all his teeth and it's so good he's like we got it it was so good and uh when we set it up we didn't realize it would take the house 16 below zero but we quickly learned that it would like it shifts he's so serious to his house he installed an ac unit for a walmart in his home and it brought it to 16th it's so good there's this other guy where they're like what's your strategy he's like i'm gonna eat

a snickers at breakfast i'm gonna eat a sn at lunch. It's got all the nutrition I need. I fucking love hands on a hard body. It's amazing. It's pretty fantastic. I want to go back and rewatch it now. It takes place in a city called Longview, Texas. FYI. Which is east of Tyler.

I want to say northeast of Austin a little bit. Yeah, like maybe, maybe about two and a half hours away from us northeast. Oh, that's great. Oh man, good movie. Two fantastic documentaries that both came out, not kind of are in the same era. Like I think,

I think Hands on a Hard Body came out before American Movie, but they're both, they're both highly entertaining documentaries that are, show the fascinating human condition. I'll say that. Yes. They're great. Wherever you're going, you better believe American Express will be right there with you.

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Never seen it before. Never seen it. I only... Little Miss Stanley Kubrick. I had no idea. I was so wrong on what I thought that movie was about. I was aware that there was a sex cult in it, had no concept of where the story would go. Wow, is it gripping.

It's a great movie. Is it good? I just seen sex cult stuff and never thought to watch it. No, it's really good. I think it's a work of art. Yeah, I think it's brilliant. It's a beautifully shot film. And Kubrick does such a good job of

building tension. Uh, as Tom Cruise is kind of navigating to get heat, like he's trying to find his way into this sex cult and just like all the things he does, all the directions he kind of goes trying to get there. And then when he finally does get, it's just,

it's fucking crazy. Yeah. Like I sort of, I went in only knowing about probably sort of what you knew, Gavin. And I assume that the movie essentially ended with that moment and that it would be like him and Nicole Kidman joined

the sex cult thing. And that's not at all where the story goes. And it leads to a mystery that is fantastic. And it's just the lighting in it, like the production. Everything is so fucking good.

It's perfect. It's a great movie. Well, it's because Stanley Kub in it. Like the production, everything is so fucking good. It's perfect. It's a great movie. Well, it's because Stanley Kubrick doesn't let anyone leave until he's shot something 1900 times. It's the largest post-production on any movie ever, I believe. I think it was like 400 days in post or something like that. It was his last film, I think, wasn't it? He died four days after submitting the final cut.

AI technically is his last film but he he died while they were filming that so uh he only filmed the first i think he directed the first like he directed up until the kid gets thrown into the woods and then steven spielberg takes over oh wow it's also such a fascinating movie for tom cruise to be in like the concept of him of all people seeing him walk into a cult scenario and how he handles that and with like the current context of Tom Cruise, it's just thinking that he has probably

seen wilder shit than what is in this movie is very fascinating. Yeah, it's just like the lobby of Scientology. What was the password? Was it like Lothario? It was like, yeah, it was something like that. It was a Latin word, I believe and it was like lothario it was like yeah yeah it was something like that it was a latin word i believe and it was related to mozart and someone yeah what was that it has so

many great cameos and cameo might even be a wrong word i just don't know if they're established actors but like alan tudyk is in it and like one scene and he's great um there's this guy i don't know his name but he plays russians and movies all the time and he was in mission impossible 2 i thought oh that's so weird that you would be in a later tom cruise movie he owns like a costume store uh in the film there's a few actors in that um thomas gibson from criminal minds has like a really weird role there's a lot of like people that you recognize in it very man i will say too uh tom cruise and nicole kidman you know they were obviously married when they made this movie and obvious and then they you

know got divorced and then tom cruise has uh gone his route and she went hers uh but in that film they like you're like god damn these are two beautiful people who are in love together and having a life together they fit so well together they looked so they had so much I thought they had so much chemistry like actual chemistry you can really I don't know they seem like they had something really special going it's a good actors

yeah to read about it seemed like a lot of the production on it um fucked with their marriage in a lot of ways like they had to do really serious counseling as part of the movie. And it was like Stanley Kubrick sort of created the divide that their characters had

within the context of the story in their own personal life. It's really fascinating to read about. Yeah, I read a, like a... Kubrick probably did a, had a lot of question, like stuff that would be considered very questionable now in his directing practices and the way he exerted control over things. Absolutely.

Eric said big time. Yeah, big time. Same with all those, like Hitchcock as well. Really? I'm not as familiar with him in those practices. I remember Harvey Keitel, I think, has a story where he was in some Kubrick movie and he made him open a door like 70 different times and he said fuck you and quit so he just had to recast the role

yeah I think I appreciate that was Eyes Wide Shut I'm pretty sure that was Eyes Wide Shut that's awesome I feel like I like a lot of Kubrick's technical stuff like a lot of the developmental things gone into camera equipment that started with him. But God, I would have hated to be on one of those sets.

Like I would have been, I would have not wanted to wake up every day and go deal with that. Jesus. I fucking, my, well, I've never like, I think all sets suck. I imagine Stanley Kubrick's probably were way worse, but I don't think, movie sets aren't fun.

No. I mean, it's like like it's crunch is what it is yeah it's like I don't people don't it's such a stressful environment to be in whether it's a fucking small potatoes or big production that's a stressful way to make a living

high stress but very it's always fulfilling at the end I feel like the longest yeah the longest I worked on a film was probably two weeks and at the end i feel like the longest yeah the longest i worked on a film was probably two weeks and at the end of it i was just exhausted and a zombie but i do look back on it fondly it's like oh there's some stuff i did on in a movie that's exactly what eric said they they're great for stories but they suck to be in totally what what

movie was that that was that uh sherlock holmes yeah just because it had so much slow-mo like i only did slow-mo so it's not like i would work on a film for its entire run but there was like a two or two or three week shoot just on phantoms weren't you also like if i'm just going off memory weren't you also shooting in the snow somewhere out in the middle of nowhere train stuff or something or was that a different movie uh That might have been Snow White and the Huntsman. But that was fake snow. I just remember you being cold and miserable. No, I've definitely been cold and miserable.

I don't know if it was for a film. I mean, England in the winter is that. It's cold and miserable. Fair enough. I think I've only seen Eyes Wide Shut and The Shining from Kubrick. Is it those stories,

or is he just remarkably good at making his whole world seem interesting? Like, every aspect of the world that his stories take place in are things I want to explore and know more information about, and he does such a good job of containing what that information is.

Yeah, there are very few true auteurs in the world. And I think he would probably be one of the most successful and most prolific. He exerted, David Lynch liked this too, exerted such control over every... It all feels deliberate. Every element of the, yeah, it does. And it is.

And I think it takes a probably a really unhealthy mind to be able to focus that much attention on something for that long like I remember I remember reading when Lost Highway came out which is one of my favorite David Lynch films

and I think a fantastic film if you can get past the bad music like Ramstein and shit uh but I remember reading before the movie came out that like David Lynch designed all the furniture in the film because he couldn't find when he was trying to design Bill Pullman's house he couldn't figure out he just couldn't get it to look right so he's like fuck it I'll just build all the furniture myself and he's a he's a really talented furniture maker. So he did.

And I remember thinking like, that's fucking cool. But now when I think back and I'm like, Jesus Christ, man, just go to Ikea. Like, you know, fucking hell. My favorite Kubrick thing is Barry Lyndon, which is a movie that I don't think a lot of people like talk about with Kubrick. But he shot it with no it's a period piece and he shot it with no artificial light and had to use like special lenses that they had to like develop or they were used by NASA on the moon because everything was lit with natural light or candle.

I think it's because, and because film at the time wasn't incredibly sensitive, there was like your F stops on lens, but he had like F zero point something. It was like to the point where a sliver, like a piece of fabric thickness of focus that you've got now. And that was on film when you couldn't even really tell

if you were getting it. Like the film bouncing further away and towards the little lens gate would have affected the focus at that point. Horrendous. It's crazy. I should do a deep dive on Kubrick. I've never seen Full Metal Jacket.

I've always wanted to see that. Oh my God, dude. Full Metal Jacket, isn't it? That is an intense... First off, it's a long-ass fucking movie. It's one of those movies where the first half is... I'm not going to spoil anything in that film for you because it's a phenomenal movie.

And it was actually, Private Joker was influential in why I became a journalist in the army because he was a journalist in the Marines. The young Matthew Modine. Yeah, Matthew Modine was like,

he rubbed off on me and I kind of wanted to be like him when I was a kid. I don't know. I just thought that if you're going to be in in the military that's a cool way to do it um eric said we're a good real podcast now for white guys talking about how good pubic is uh but it's like there's like an entire film just in basic training and then you think the movie's over when that's over and then it's like oh no you have a whole other fucking film that happens that totally shifts gears

and it's just like, it's insane. It's intense. And Vincent D'Onofrio turns in one of the most disturbing performances you will ever see on film.

Really? More disturbing than him in Men in Black? Yeah. He's great in Men in Black too. Danny Boyle is great at that making movies that have tonal shifts in the last act but they work like train spotting

shifts into like kind of a heist movie at the end Sunshine becomes like a murder thriller like there's a real genre change in a lot of this work I don't feel like Sunshine gets enough credit that's a really great film it's a great movie yeah or enough recognition I guess it's really good you'd like it it's sci- guess it's really good you'd like

it it's sci-fi it's real good yeah i'm gonna catch up on space movies like sunshine and i've never seen event horizon which is apparently important to watch oh event horizons it's a good movie it's yeah it's like a probably probably dated now but it's uh it's a scary movie too kind of yeah it's a good horror movie it's a movie podcast you know wes anderson does that a lot where you're like it's like a totally second half of the film's a totally different movie jesus christ yeah uh let's stop talking about movies because you know there's someone listening who's seen none of those films or who's seen all of them and is like he fuck up fuck off you don't know

what you're talking about this is exciting when you watch a movie like that like in eyes wide shut sorry to go back to movies immediately there's a scene where tom cruise is reading a news story about an event that happened in the movie and i wanted to pause the film to read it and i've never had that with a movie or it was like everything felt so detailed and was so engaging to pursue oh speaking of movies i don't ever really watch movies anymore uh you know i don't have the attention span but my mom's in town and so we wanted to do something last night so i watched that movie the gray man on netflix the new ryan gosling chris evans movie have you guys seen that no pretty good

pretty good it's kind of like a Bourne identity like they're saying it might be like a new big franchise where it's like Ryan Gosling plays

like a Jason Bourne type character and then Chris Evans is the bad guy it's fun got Billy Bob Thornton in it I'm walking away from this podcast

with like five things to watch two documentaries go watch some Kubrick films I'm walking away from this knowing that if Stanley Kubrick

was alive we'd still have a Choco Taco that's what my main takeaway you can all tie back telling you guys i'm gonna be vindicated when you are seven or eight months they're gonna be like the back but you demanded it so we're bringing it back the choco taco they only took it away i promise you it's only been taken away so that they can give it back to us you're totally right like undeniably that's what's gonna happen i think my favorite one of those type stories like hostess went on business somebody re-bought them brought back the uh the twinkie believe that's what happened with that chucky cheese was the thing when it started

it gained popularity and they were gonna strike a deal with this investor and they pulled out at the last minute it was like fuck you we can make our own thing so they started Showtime Pizza which was like the same idea animatronics arcade showbiz pizza showbiz thank you yes showbiz pizza they were gonna

partner with Chuck E. Cheese then they backed out of the deal made showbiz pizza Chuck E. Cheese overext they backed out of the deal, made Showbiz Pizza. Chuck E. Cheese overextended, went bankrupt. Showbiz Pizza then bought Chuck E. Cheese, then got rid of their own company name and called everything Chuck E. Cheese. So Chuck E. Cheese is really Showbiz Pizza now. And it's all failing. So who cares?

But I just think it's such a wild thing of being like, fuck you, I could do it better. And then just absorbing the company that started it all and pretending that you're them. And honestly, they did. That was my childhood. I was of the era when these things came out. So those were birthday parties for me. Showbiz was way better than Chuck E. Cheese. Way better than Chuck E. Cheese. They had a much better show.

The animatronic show was the concert they would put on was so fucking good. What was that band called? Have you ever seen the concept unification video? No. It's where they're stripping all the fur off one brand and rebranding the animatronics

with the other brand. It's like an instructional video. It's like, now tear this piece off and shove the eyes on this one. It's gruesome. That's hideous. That is hideous. They were called the Rock-a-fire explosion they had a they had a fucking they had a i don't know if it was yeah it was they had a gorilla in like a tuxedo who was fucking awesome that's great he played the

keyboard i think that's fucking cool do you have anything like that growing up gavin uh no what about like arcades was Was there any arcade scene? Uh, yeah. But I lived in a really small town. I don't really have... That's fair. I mean, I feel like I had the similar... I had a place called Cyber City and it sucked.

But that's like, that's what we had. Oh, there's a concept unification tape. It's like some VHS they sent to all of the locations and it's just so creepy. Was there like... Because like when I grew up, there were arcades in town obviously but you don't have access to them unless you get your mom to take you which is a rarity so like there was like there was a one walmart that i could ride my bike to that had street fighter 2 and ivan Man's Off Road. And so those were my access to video games.

Did you have like a gas station or something, Gav, or like a restaurant that just had like one arcade machine in the back? That was like a pub with a fruit machine in it. Like a slot machine, not a vending machine for free Fuck out of bananas again Point of this thing so we're arcade arcade machines just not like popular in the UK No, they were I just didn't live near anything like that. Yeah, it's crazy to me here people Sort of like from your generation Jeff talking about like

7-eleven being a hangout spot because it had a Mortal Kombat Cabinet in it like that just being a place that spot because it had a Mortal Kombat cabinet in it. That just being a place that people would hang out to play games is interesting. There was not a 7-Eleven, but in a different place. When I lived in Florida, there was a Tom Thumb, is what it was called there. And they had Golden Axe and Altered Beast. And so half the kids in town just hung out at the tom thumb

taking turns on golden axe and altered beast and that was just like yeah that was your access to video games back then yeah wild yeah let's talk of like discontinued ice cream that just made me remember when did you did you have anything similar to we had it we had a viennetta which was like a i would say it was like an ice cream lasagna thing that you like carve off slices of did you have anything like this dude i had never seen or heard of the viennetta before but my girlfriend grew up with those so we did have them in america she said that was like her mom would buy one of those when company would come over like that was like the fancy dessert you get like when you're having when you're having a dinner for like the people in the neighborhood or for your church

group or whatever on a sunday night and they would pull out the viennetta and it would be like a big fucking deal yeah i remember it fondly of like if it's like a sunday dinner but also some grandparents have also come over that's when a viennetta gets bought oh that's great i don't remember ever viennetta for me it was like the mccain deep and delicious cake that was like oh you're at a school event like that is the the official cake of any like adult run event where kids are at always have mccain steep and delicious i don't know if you guys have that. No, I've never heard of it. Let me see if I can find a photo.

I feel like it's been done to death. It's been memed to death, but while Andrew's looking for that, this was my version of the Viennetta when I was a kid. We had... Yeah. Is that it? That's it. What Eric just posted. What is that called? It's like a McCain Deep and it but eric just posted what is that called it's uh

like a mccain deep and delicious cake but it's not it's not ice cream it's just a cake it's just a cake yeah there wasn't like an ice cream thing we had growing up fudgy the whale fudgy the whale is great fudgy the whale was the shit dude that was like if you were you were lucky if your mom would get you fudgy the whale for your birthday. Oh, God. That was an ice cream cake, right? Uh-huh. Yeah, it's ice cream cake. We have so many possible food gauntlet challenges to do.

Like, we've already got crisps ready to go. We can easily do ice cream. Oh, fuck, cookie puss. I remember cookie puss. You ever had a cookie puss, Jeff? No, I never had a cookie puss, but I'd see the commercials on TV. Oh, what is that? Cookie O-puss.

Cookies for eyes and a cone for a nose? The only reason I know what this is, is there was some Howard Stern fight that he got in with Fred where he was making fun of him buying a cookie puss and a cookie O-puss for like 15 minutes. And Fred is seething. And it's just Howard with a voice changer saying cookie opus over and over again. Fucking crying thinking about it is the best. It's great.

But like, does this look like a cat? I feel like it's supposed to look like a cat or like, why would his name be cookie put? I don't know. It doesn't make sense to me. No, whiskers. Yeah. I don't know it doesn't make sense to me no whiskers yeah I don't know I love his little hands oh it looks like a tea towel drawing a child

would make yeah I think I think Gavin you see his like his like his smile and then to the right there the two verticals like those are like little hands sticking out those are like little red gloves how would you eat ice cream cake with a fork no but like what would you put it on this was a realization oh i put it in my mouth great very helpful good bit yeah well where would you put it well i would always because it's cake in

my mind i associate cake as a plate food so i'd always put ice cream cake on a plate but then it melts and becomes a mess i up until like a few months ago have switched to bowls never even occurred to me to use a bowl for ice cream is always a bowl food but it's a cake so my brain would always put it at ice cream part at kids parties it ends up on a little plastic it ends up on a cake so it's but it makes no sense it's a terrible ice cream should never be served on a plate. But that's how I did it. I don't think kids at birthday parties let the ice cream sit long enough to... It's gone in like.2 seconds.

When you're a kid and you get birthday cake and then if that birthday cake is ice cream birthday cake, it's gone, dude. It is. It's fucking gone. There's no opportunity for that ice cream to melt. Eric's wife won't eat cake and ice cream together. Why?

She doesn't like them together. She doesn't like ice cream cake. She doesn't like if there's cake and ice cream, they can't touch. They have to be separate. Is she like that with other foods as well? Yeah, what else does she have? Not really.

I'm sure there's one or two other things probably, but by and large, no. But for some reason, cake and ice cream is a very contentious thing where she is, they can't touch. They shouldn't ever touch. She'll eat the cake and then she'll eat the ice cream or vice versa. They just shouldn't be together is her feeling. I would recommend that you never dig into that because that kind of trauma comes from something really dark in her life.

Probably. It's probably she'd probably better just not left thinking about it. See, I for me, it's a texture thing. I could see that just being unpleasant. Those two textures not mixing. So I sponge cake. I agree. I think that's what it is.

And I'm sorry, Gavin, like plug your ears for a second. But I think it's her. I think it's like a wet bread situation for her. Ah, yeah. I think that like those things are such a perfect pairing texturally for me. I absolutely agree. I totally agree. I'm just I'm speculating on what I think it might be.

There are just certain things, though, that you don't like for me, like apples and peanut butter. I hate that, but I love them individually. Do you know if she ever witnessed a murder during a birthday party or anything yeah she was eating cookie puss and then as she took a bite uh a man died and that i think that might be it it might have been a cookie opus but i can't be sure i'm sorry what were you saying andrew i don't even remember i'm just now imagining a cookie puss murder i guess guess we could really narrow down timing here.

You're never getting a cookie O plus outside of St. Patrick's Day. Good luck finding one. You don't like apples and peanut butter together? Not together. That's what I was saying. Yeah, thank you. That actually was what I was saying. I don't like them together.

I enjoy them both separately. If I get them on a plate, I'll eat them both individually. I will not mix them. So you'll just eat peanut butter as a paste? I'll just eat peanut butter by itself, yeah, and I'll eat the both individually i will not you'll just think about it's like a paste i'll just eat peanut butter by itself yeah and i'll eat the apples by themselves huh but you would never dip an apple slice i've tried like i've had it and i just don't i don't like it but i i like them both individually a lot i think how about caramel will you ever do like that's good caramel yeah that could be yeah so it's not like a consistency thing. It's more just like a combination of flavors.

Yeah, I don't know why. It's the taste doesn't blend for me. Hey, man, that's fair. That's fair. I get that. I had a babysitter when I was a kid who was obsessed with eating peanut butter with Cheerios in it.

And that's the only snack she would make me because it was the only snack she knew how to make. And she would just sit there and watch MTV and make me eat Cheerios and peanut butter. And she thought it was the only snack she knew how to make and she would just sit there and watch mtv and make me eat cheerios and peanut butter and she thought it was the best thing ever what so how would that work she just don't she would dump a bunch of peanut butter in a bowl and then pour cheerios on top of it and then give me a spoon that's a terrible trick and then she would eat it too and it wasn't like a torture because she was eating it too did you like it doesn't sound that bad actually well what type of cheerios are we talking like a honey nut are we talking a base cheerio

this is like 1986 so we're talking straight ass cheerios okay i'll eat cheerios and peanut butter from time to time i just think it's insane to say that she made it for you and that it's the only thing she knew how to make yeah this is this is all I can get. Peanut butter and Cheerios. Nothing's being made. So wait, you eat that? Do I? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. You get like a spoonful of peanut butter and like, not like full, but like a little bit of peanut butter and then like some Cheerios. It's like a nice like little quick snack. You and my babysitter in 1986 are the only people I've ever met that participate in that.

Well, we're both chefs. I have no idea. What is the base Cheerio? Is it the one with the different types? What's the one with like three different Cheerio types? You think the base Cheerio is the one with three different Cheerios in it? So wait, there's... Because I only remember that one and Honey Nut Cheerio is the one with three different Cheerios in it? So wait, there's... Because I only remember that one and Honey Nut Cheerio.

What were the three flavors? I'm not even familiar with what that is. What are you talking about? There's like the white Cheerio and there's like the brown one. Excuse me? You're asking... Again, you're asking if the base Cheerio is three different kinds of Cheerios? To me, that was like the bog standard Cheerio. again you're asking if the base cheerio is three different kinds of cheerios this was to me that

was like the bog standard cheerio was it was like the song was like cheer cheerio it's cheery corn snack attack once again like it's an experience we We all have this is some crazy British shit. What are you? Hold on cheerio. I just want you haven't seen him in a while Yeah, it's something something cheerios Cheerios so good to eat that was the song Let me find a Jeff you've been around longer than all of us. Have you ever heard the Cheerio song?

No. No, no, no. I've also never heard of white... What was it? White and wheat? Cheerio? Did you call one of them Cheery Oats? Something like that.

He did. He did. This is vlog standard Cheerios right here. Oh, I think... That's it. That's Cheerios. Doesn't... By the way... Here we go. Yeah, look.

Look at this. Look at this freaking ad. It wasn't oats, I don't think. I think it was cherry wheat. I'm watching this. Cherry wheat? It was. What?

This is... Nutritious. It is oats. They're oats. They're delicious. This is trying to be so American. Dude. But you guys are you this is the uk trying to be so american by eating non-american cheerios so i think they're all the same but they've they just listed the four things so maybe that's what no i don't think so dude because they

those are different colors in the, they were definitely different colors in the spoon. That's the bog standard Cheerio, and then you've got the Honey Nut Cheerios. So wait, you just had Cheerios? I put the picture above it. You see when they show the four colors, and there's the really beige one? That's Cheerios. That's Cheerios. It's just plain-ass Cheerios.

What you're describing, we have a version of that in America. It's called Chex. So there's like rice Chex and corn Chex and wheat Chex, and there's no like bog standard Chex because they're all different flavors. But yeah, Cheerios is just, it's just that yellow-ass box that's above it right there. Those strawberries in the bowl, those don't come with it those are add-ons

there's so many of these that must be why I remember the song is because that was I kind of barely remembered the song but I just remember there was a song because it was there's so many different years where they played that sort of shit these are terrible it is very American

corn rice oats wheat I can't even find that product These are terrible. It is very American. Corn, rice, oats, wheat. I can't even find that product. It's all like amber waves of grain and people jumping in a lake. Yeah. Throwing water on each other out of buckets and shit. Wow.

We just had such similar but different lives. Yeah, Jeff is right. This is Cheerios. Cheerios commercial I remember when I was a kid. Let's see this. Toasted oat cereal. Oh this is cool. Yours is animated? Yeah it's Jack and the Beans. Oh it went into his bicep. I got toast. Boom! That's the shit right there. Andrew, how do they advertise Cheerios in Canada?

What's the Canadian Cheerio? I just feel like it was kids eating cereal. I don't think we had animation or a cool song. I don't remember anything like that. Canadian Cheerios commercial. I'm looking. Canadian ad Cheerios. I stepped away from Cheerios knowing the ingredients.

Here, I have not seen this. This is just listed as a Canadian ad Cheerios. I stepped away from Cheerios knowing the ingredients. Here, I have not seen this. This is just listed as a Canadian. Canadian ad Cheerios. Oh, no. This is so fucking bland. Yeah, like Cheerios. Like Canada. Like Canadians must be the most patient people in the world

because, my God, that was just like the slowest commercial I've ever seen in my life. That was a 30-second seminar on why Cheerios don't have any flavor. Yeah, that one's definitely marketed at the moms, not the kids. Yeah. I like the final five seconds of we gotta do something. Explode the fucking box. Let's have them all fall in the milk at once.

Like we did anything. We need anything. This stinks. It's like Michael mixed to her at the end a bunch of cheerios just fly into that woman's bicep it's like they had michael bay for two seconds of footage like that's all they could book well i think it was uh it was stanley kubrick for the first half of that do you want to know how many times it took for them to pour that bowl of cereal? 800 takes. I got to be honest. After watching the three, I feel a little ripped off.

I think you had so many flavors in your Cheerios. Yeah. I want to try British Cheerios now. I want to hear from other people from England because I may have just missed it. But was there a bog standard plain single cheerio that wasn't honey nut do let me know in the comments become a comment lever if you feel like this is worth doing so i'm excited it's gonna have to happen eventually it might as well be about cheerios it's true well we're all it's like it's like infection and halo we're all gonna get infected as a comment lever at some point so you might as well just accept it we should start selling like comment lever care packages like a little relief package for when

you finally make the decision do you remember we talked about a long time ago having an official face apology basket that we gave to people yes yeah the guilt basket we got to get on that we should we really do need to design and build a physical guilt basket that we can give out to people. I think that'd be very funny. I'll start on the basket. And it would have, I got to think it's got British Cheerios in it. Like a little travel size British Cheerios. Did you guys have that in England?

Did you have like the little one size, like one portion size? Yeah, it had all the different types of Kellogg's. Yeah, you had like frosted flakes and no one ever ate the rice-icles Rice-icles? Nobody knows what you're talking about. Wait, how do we keep getting so close and then you say something that's so like fucking bizarre it just stops the post. You never had rice-icles? Rice-icles? Are you talking about Rice Krispies? It just stops Are you about rice krispies and we had rice krispies, but we also had what the fuck rice equals It's just I'm looking at it. It's a rice krispie. No. No you're wrong. It isn't and this will be a part of our cereal gauntlet How is it different they look identical?

They're more like... They're definitely different. They don't taste anything like Rice Krispies. Captain Rick? This is wild. But anyway, in the big multi-pack, it would always be like people will be scarfing down the crunchy nut and the cocoa pops,

but rice-icles would always be left in the end of the bag. So they're just not good? I just don't think it was anyone's favorite. The frosties would be sucked down immediately. I assume that's Frosted Flakes. Pesicles would always be left in the end of the bag. So they're just not good? I just don't think it was anyone's favorite. The Frosties would be sucked down immediately. I assume that's Frosted Flakes. Frosties. Yeah, Frosties for us.

Oh, yeah. Did you guys have Tony the Tiger? You did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Do you guys call him Tony the Tiger, or did he have a different name in England? No, he was Tony the Tiger.

He's probably like Anthony. He's not like Anthony the Hero or anything. What the fuck's a Honey Loop? I don't know. I think this is a more modern version because I don't remember multigrain shapes or Honey Loops. I remember icicles being in there, though. Huh. Honey Loop.

Is that like a honey-o? I don't know. Oh, yeah, it does. It looks just like a honey-o. Okay. Except honey-os are post food podcast we're a breakfast food podcast all right you got your wetos and your shreddies and you say shit like it's real and it's the most insane stuff i've ever heard. It's real. Weedos and Shreddies.

Shreddies look like chicks. And then you got your Weetabix and your shredded wheat. It's all in there. It's all good. Special K, just right. This is insane. I'm just looking through cereal on Google Images and I don't know what's real or what's fake

and I don't know what you know. This is just terrible. So Shreddy is just rice checks. God, it's so wild. Crunchy nut must be honey bunches of oats. Don't even get me started on the Milky Way. Oh, that's right. That's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. And Smarties.

And Smarties. Yeah, I have those. That's also Canadian. Which one? Smarties and Milky Way, I believe. Which one do you have? Which one's Smartie? The chocolate.

Smarties are chocolate to me, and what you guys Americans call Smarties, we call rockets. Was Tony the Tiger the mascot for Ricicles? What's this betrayal? No, wait. It says Frosties on the side. Yeah, then why does it say ricicles on the front

well i'll be honest eric it looks like someone's taped that on okay yeah i've never seen that box that's a little bit before my time that looks wrong wait was did he get promoted from ricicles to the career progression of Tony the Tiger. Was he a Ricycles guy? This is blowing my mind. Insane.

He's definitely grown. He looks a lot different today than he did in 1977. I wonder if Ricycles were

as great as Frosties or if he had a different catchphrase. What is happening? Tony the Tiger 1977. That was a kangaroo? Katie the kangaroo.

Is this like Australian Frosty's had a kangaroo? Or did they swap? I feel unwell. I think it sounds like the kangaroo got fired. They promoted Tony up. And then they hired Rick to take over Rice-icles.

So I'm reading the history. They had other characters named Elmo the elephant and Newt the new. Within the year, the other mascots were dropped with Elmo and Newt never once gracing the front of the box. They were never used. Tony was given a son, Tony Jr. Tony has a kid? Yeah, Tony has a kid. There's a small tiger.

I didn't know that. Yeah. Does he also work on Frosties? I'm trying to... Good God. We're a serial history podcast. Do you guys have Golden Crisp, then?

Post a picture of that. It might have a different name. Like, can't get enough of Super Golden Crisp. It's got crunch with punch. It's got crunch with punch. It's got like a really cool bear. Yeah, that's him right there. The Golden Crisp. I can't see any of the cereal.

Oh, Honey Smacks looks like Sugar Puffs with the Honey Monster. I'm sorry, the what? The Honey Monster. What? The Honey Monster? Yeah, you ever Sugar Puffs? I don't know what a honey monster is. Show you. The honey monster was the mask- oh shit! What the fuck?! This- is this real?

Yes! That's sugar puffs! And the honey monster would be like, rah rah rah rah rah. No! I don't want to see it. The honey monster is a fever dream. I don't want to see stuff that honey monsters a fever dream. I don't like that looks like honey smacks doesn't it yeah? He was That's just a part of my life you just laugh at it. I mean was deadness How do you slant you sleep at night as a kid? Is that him and James Bond? This is fucking deranged. That's a British icon you're talking about right there.

How did he sleep at night? Why, he slept with the honey monster, of course. Honestly, like a sugar puff was so gross. If you got one just mildly wet, you could just like wet your hand and put your hand in the bowl and they would all stick to you. Like the sugar would immediately stick.

It was the stickiest cereal. Oh, man. Okay, we should end, but here's the last picture. Oh, God. That's our fucking, that's the cover to this album. Good Lord.

All right. Well, we got to... I was... This could go on literally for hours because I have a bunch of new... I have like 20 other serials queued up to check out. So we should probably stop

while we're ahead. I will just say, though, Super Golden Crisp was fucking awesome and Sugar Bear was a good mascot. Oh, no! They renamed Sugar Puffs. I guess because they're trying to get sugar out of the name, because no one's buying it. Now they're called

Honey Monster Puffs. Oh, my God, that's worse. That's so much worse. Yeah. That's not a good change. I didn't actually know that. Oh, my God. OK, someone. Well, yeah. Thanks.

Thanks for tuning in to episode 115 of the Breakfast Cereal podcast. I hope you learned a little something about the differences in cultures yet. Yet we're still able to come together even across oceans of water and and wildly disparate serial mascots it is I'm gonna be thinking about what is this guy's name again the honey monster honey monster

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