Regulation Podcast - None of What You Said Matters // We Spill So Many Drinks [36]

Episode Date: February 3, 2021

Geoff, Gavin, and Andrew talk about terrible advice for Geoff's sock problem, Andrew's horde mode burger bet, the act of war of podcast trailer voting, and more. Sponsored by Hello Tushy (http://hellotushy.com/face) and Hello Fresh (http://hellofresh.com/face10 + code face10) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

🎵 You have no fucking idea the problems Diab- You have no idea the problems I've been through today! They know because they showed up! I was here! What do you mean I didn't show up? You can't always say you're here on time when your shit's broken and mostly you're not here.

It doesn't work. I don't understand what that means. You being here early is irrelevant if by the time three o'clock comes around, we can't press record and start because you're not there. Record, Gavin, so I don't know what you want from me. I'm recording. Have you hit record yet, Gavin? Because I'm recording.

Can I? Can I just say, every time it's not me I am so happy. How do I adjust this? How do I adjust my waveforms? My gain, right? I gotta twist it up or down? Down. Oh, I twisted it all the way up. I don't... I'm not an audio guy.

That's a great point. That's a great point. I never considered the literal thing for game. Can I talk about the disaster? You're having a great time, Jeff. I have. I don't even. Okay. So I get my setup ready.

Jeff posts in the Discord. I have something I want to talk about before we start. I'm always here like 20 minutes early. So I was like, great. I can talk to Jeff. I'll have somebody to talk to. I put my thing in. I set everything up.

Nothing's working. Can't figure out why. So I'm like, I don't know. Maybe there's like a USB port issue. So I go to like adjust the USB port on my computer. I knock my computer over. It knocks my monitor over. It knocks over my cup of water that is like a liter

everything goes flying i have a giant puddle on my floor i have to clean everything up i still don't know what the issue is i go through all this shit we're going back and forth for like 10 minutes trying to figure out what was wrong the issue was i plugged my microphone into i think the second mic slot i think that's what caused all so that so you created a a comical rube goldberg machine in your room i everything fell my monitor is literally dripping right now it got covered and recording subs on the top of a house of cards it is yeah it was a fucking disaster it might be it might have something to do with the fact that you've crammed everything that's

important to you in your life into your bedroom. Here's the okay. So just the pivot off of that. I've added a new thing. I made a mistake. I've always wanted to learn how to play piano. Good Christ. I bought an 88 key digital piano.

Those things are way bigger than you would anticipate. Those things are fucking huge. They're huge. It's five feet long. I'm imagining the width of 88 fingers. It is five feet long or it's like just barely under five feet. I was not prepared for that. It has been an issue. I don't have room for it so i i just i put it on my bed have you considered putting it maybe in another room but what i'm imagining is a bunch of completely empty rooms yeah i can imagine the kitchen full of shit a bedroom full of shit three other empty rooms is how i picture your living situation. That's a good point. I don't have a stand for it, and I'd have to move a chair in there.

It's more work, too. I'd have to move a chair, Gavin. But now it's on your bed. You have to move it every time you want to sleep. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just sleeping with it. It's just on my bed. This is my life right now.

Is it on the pillow? You're just sleeping next to it like I used to sleep next to a vacuum cleaner? Yeah. It's fine. It's five feet long. Oh my god. I imagine you rolling over and it just goes, HEEEW! I really, yeah. It's a great, it's a great possible alarm clock.

I've left it on just to see if I roll onto it one day. That is ginormous. It's fucking huge! And it's heavy. I thought it would be half the size Oh my god I'm honestly quite excited for you That you seem to have taken up

What seems to be a normal hobby And not cooking in the closet That's not a hobby That's just fun That's just pleasure for myself Isn't that what a hobby is? Like desk dogs? No I don't think desk dogs is a hobby Keurig noodles? That's is a hobby. Isn't that what a hobby is? Like desk dogs? Is that not a hobby for you? No, I don't think desk dogs is a hobby.

Keurig noodles? That's not a hobby? Okay. Hey, whatever happened with the, what was it, Kool-Aid you were gonna put through the Keurig? Oh, we'll do an intro first before we get into this. Oh yeah, sorry. Welcome to episode 36? Is that right?

Yeah, I think that's right, actually. Wow. I think I just got it right. You did it says? Yeah, I think that's right, actually. Did I get it? Wow. I think I just got it right. You did it. Holy shit. I got it right. What a moment. And welcome to episode 36 of F*** Face, a podcast about dipshits doing dipshit things.

I am Geoff Ramsey. With me, as always, is British Gavin and Canadian Andrew, as we call them. Hello. Yes. And San Diego Eric. Wow, he didn't say hi. Yeah, that was rude. It's fine, he's rude.

Anyway, so, man, first off, do you guys have a lot to talk about today? Because I am proud to admit that I don't. Oh. I have a lot. I wrote some things down. I have a lot. I would love to. I got one thing.

Well, Andrew, you missed it. I'm sorry. And this is a dickhead move I realized for the audience I had a story to tell that is not for the podcast and I told Eric and Gavin before the podcast and I'll have to sync up with you someday to tell you

it was an insane thing that happened to me today but it is not funny it is very sad and it's not I don't want to it's not it's just a sad story that happened today so why bring it up yeah now it sounds like it's really sad yeah yeah to be like i said it's a dickhead move i was doing it to be a dick like you know sometimes you you you want to be a dick something insane happened to me today absolutely insane and i'm not gonna

talk about it. I feel like you're just trying to generate interest in this story you have no plan on telling. I'll never tell it. I don't know. Maybe I'll tell it. Okay. I think that's for you to decide. The ending is good. Jeff was crying. I did cry. I cried for like 20 straight minutes. Like sad tears or like happy tears?

Like funny tears? Both. Nothing funny about it. Sad tears, relieved tears uh both no nothing funny about it sad tears relieved tears but yeah it's uh okay but i do just real quick and then i'll shut up i won't talk for the rest of the podcast um why i just have one thing i just don't want to i don't want to be a time burglar i don't want to monopolize but i do want to thank on twitter a guy or a lady or a they named Roadmaster74. Roadmaster74 tweeted to me. Roadmaster74, I'm going to say that name a lot, Roadmaster74, because Roadmaster4, they are the first human being,

although their picture is of a fox, so maybe they're not a human, maybe they're a fox. They're the first entity, the sentient entity, that gave me salient, useful, simple, helpful, hit myself on the forehead why didn't I think about that first advice and suggestion

on how to fix my sock problem. I want to say, Roadmaster74, you're a fucking genius because Roadmaster74 said, hey, at Jeff L. Ramsey, about your sock situation, why not put them in the shoes already that way when you go to put your shoes on the right sock is in the right shoe and the left sock is in the left shoe just trying to help love what does that mean keep it i mean

it means you pre-load your shoes with your socks so when i go the night before like when i go to bed i'll lay my socks i just stick the left sock in the left shoe and the right sock in the right shoe then when I wake up in the morning then I'll just fucking I grab my shoe I'll just put it on what do you mean just preload them onto your feet if anything in the morning I don't want to pre you start to look at your sock

and see if it's left or right to preload the shoes just put them straight on your feet the next morning what the hell does that mean I still gotta look at them the night before they'll still be raw preload the shoes. Just put them straight on your feet the next morning. What on earth does that mean? You're right. I still got to look at them the night before. They'll still be raw. Suggestion asked.

No, no, no. Here's why it may work. Here's why it may work. Here's why it may work. Here's why it may work. Okay. It might work because, because, because, because. Oh my God.

The specific problem I have is I pick up my left sock from a right foot. But what if, what if I just pick up a sock and I see what color it is and then I just go put it in the, or color, sorry. I pick up a sock and I see what letter it is and then I just go put that letter in the appropriate shoe.

And then it doesn't matter because I'm not applying it to my foot. My foot and my sock together is where it goes wrong. But if I just pick up a sock and look at it, ah, I don't know. It doesn't change a single thing, Jeff. All that does is move the problem to the night before. Think about, yes, Jeff, think about when we were actually trying to solve this.

The issue that you talked about was that putting socks on is a mindless activity, and you're incapable of putting any thought into this process. All you've done is put thought into putting socks in the shoes. If you really want to sort the situation out, if you actually need a solution, put all your left socks in one drawer and all your right socks in the other and put them on your feet

from those drawers every morning. He has to clean them. Don't be farting around, bending over, putting socks in your shoes the night before. It's mental. Absolutely mental what you're saying. I think it's a feel thing. That's also good

advice. I think that's the only true way to fix it. Gavin, I don't know where you were the last 2,000 times we've talked about this, but that is decent advice. Well, I wasn't giving serious answers last time because it's not a real problem, Jeff. It is a real problem for me and it's existed for

fucking years. I wouldn't be talking about it every day of my fucking life if it wasn't a problem. Obviously it's a problem. And thank you for the solution. I understand I understand what you're saying

about whatever this fucking kid's name was again. Now I forgot it. Roadmaster 74. I get it. I'm just preloading the problem to provide a false sense of security 24 hours later or in the morning. I can wrap my head around that. But I also think that

I'm mad at you, Gavin. I'm mad at you for saying it's not a problem when it's very clearly, very lucidly a problem. But also, I'm kind of happy with you because you gave me a decent idea with the drawers.

Maybe I'll try that. Okay, thanks. Andrew, what did you want to talk about? Are you alright, Andrew? Yeah, I'm just, it's like none of what you said matters. It's even more insulting than what I said. No, it's like

for solving the issue, it's a new thing. That's less even worth it than a million. You should stop talking about it. No, no, thing. That's less human worth than a soft problem. Is that you should stop talking about it? No, no, no. I'm not saying you should stop talking about it.

I'm saying all of your solutions that you're saying, like, that's a great idea doesn't solve the issue because it's a you thing. You're going to have to fucking clean those socks. They're going to come

out of the drawer and then it's just going to be about how all your fucking right socks end up in the left drawer somehow. It's a you thing. Yeah. You're just changing where the problem is you're just moving the ball you're not actually solving anything how do i fix me i i think it's a feel thing i've talked about that i think you need to have something on the sock that's like a like a feel you feel it and you're

like that's a left sock why don't you wake up backwards? You know what? That's the best idea of all. I've now talked about it too much. I don't want to talk about it anymore. Okay. I've just all worked up about it. You had a useless suggestion there, Jeff, in the comments. I saw a useless comment where I was asking for other things,

like how Andrew didn't know that the mac in mac and cheese was macaroni and what other obvious obvious things does he not know someone in the comments i can't remember what the name was uh glanced it and laughed at it said it took me ages to realize that can was short for canister and i thought i don't think that's true i looked it up and i got what i just googled is can short for canister and you know how google just like finds your answer and makes it big above all the results it's quite an aggressive answer can which date which dates back to old english and canister which didn't show up until at least the 16th century are two separate words can is not and never has been a short form of canister. Really? Someone really angrily typing about... Somebody's sick of hearing that fucking misnomer. And don't ask again.

Stop it. It's not short for archive. It's the onion. Should we get into, at any point, the fucking Discord podcast that happened or slack podcast that happened earlier this week oh yeah no for sure we're gonna get two separate incidents that i i was so confused to back into and then it lasted it was it got quite lengthy i think our biggest issue is that we record on the wrong day.

Andrew seems to cause everything to happen on like a Monday or a Tuesday. And then we have to wait two days. I think maybe an even bigger issue is just that this fucking podcast is now happening 24 hours a day in our lives. It's just like the only way we know how to communicate with each other. You know what my biggest issue is? The two knives in my back that Gavin shoved there. You think Gavin shoved two knives in my back that Gavin shoved there Say Gavin you say Gavin shoved two knives back stabbed me twice Right after Gavin and I had a conversation

I was like man it seems like you and I always just end up in an alliance like you and I are together It's strange like even when it's not expected where we joined forces next week. He stabs me in the back three days later He stabs me in the back. Three days later, he stabs me in the back again. Wait, what was the second knife? The second knife was the vote, how you described the vote. That was an absurd take on the vote. Look, I'm sorry, but the judgment was ruled and it was ruled that it was fair

and not insulting to you. And if anything, made you sound funny and cool. So between recordings, Andrew was complaining about this backstabbing, and we ended up having another judgment. Jeff was the impartial judge. This all happened between this recording and the last one. Andrew, do you want to run us through what happened?

Should we go in order? Let's go through the burgers first, because the burgers are brief. It's a brief thing. Sorry, I want to let this all go, but you're asking, should we do this in order? And you might as well just do it in whatever way you want because I don't think the three of us understand how any of it happened

or why. It was just a thing that you started and did. Okay. This is... Oh. No, no, no, no, no. Before Andrew goes any further, can I ask a question then?

I assumed that I was the only one lost in this whole thing and that Eric and Andrew and Gavin were all on the same page and I was playing catch-up. Is that not the case? Are you guys confused too? Yeah. Absolutely no idea what's going on. I don't understand.

I have no idea. Thank you so much. Andrew, please. I can explain this, and this is, I know, funny. The audio is going to be on my side on this one. The previous episode, we talked about how I initiated the bet, and then I had my sparring session. I ate a burger, and I felt full that night, so I called it off.

We had that talk. And in that conversation, I said, at least we have a framework done, and you agreed with me, Jeff, that when I do this again, I'm going to least we have a framework done. And you agreed with me, Jeff, that when I do this again, I'm going to need to feel super confident about it. And I won't have to ask anybody at least because we've already agreed to the terms. I can just start. That's what happened on Friday. I felt very confident. So I said to Eric, I need to let you know because I figured if I failed, I would reveal on the show that I did it and I failed. And if it actually started to

go well, I'd reveal after the first set because I changed my strategy. So that's all that happened. We agreed that I could just start this thing whenever I wanted to. That is not a crazy thing that I came out of left field. Do we remember this? No. Yes. You don't remember that?

Andrew, I do remember. It was, I think, the last time we recorded, honestly. It was. It's in the podcast. I remember you saying that when you were feeling confident. I guess I didn't realize you were just going to go without saying it. I guess I did. To back up Gavin a bit there, I guess I didn't either.

But based on your retelling and now my recollection, I think I just might have missed that. But I think you were clear with it. I think I just might have missed that. But I think that you, I think you were clear with it. I just didn't pick up on it. Same. Absolutely. And that's fine. That's why that's,

that's not, that's not the betrayal part. I understand that. What happened was, so my new strategy this time around was I'm going to order the burgers and waves. Cause I feel like if I can beat it in like wave after wave, like a boss rush. Are you doing a horde mode? Yeah, I'm doing a horde mode. I think if i can beat it in like wave after wave like a boss you're doing a horde mode yeah i'm doing a horde mode i think if i mentally i'm like i'm cleared

half the waves i only got half to go i can go the extra mile but this is where things are wrong between like left for dead it's like oh here they come and all the burgers show up again every fifth burger is a boss burger it It's a double. Yeah, exactly. So I ordered 10 burgers, but this is the problem. I was so excited. I was so pumped up about it on Friday. I ordered the wrong burger. Every time we've done this,

I've ordered the basic McDonald's hamburger and then the double hamburger. I accidentally ordered 10 McDoubles, which means they all have cheese on them. That's a lot of cheese to go the rest of the way with. So I paused the timer and I wanted Gavin's ruling. I'm not I wasn't even trying to argue with you. I felt that since I am doing a harder burger and I've already committed to this, I've ordered

10 of them. If I go the rest of the way and finish all these McDoubles with cheese on them, then I win the bet, even though it's not the regulation burger we agreed upon. But if I lose, it doesn't count because I was doing a harder burger. I was looking for a ruling for that. Gavin said, what's going

on? I explained the situation. Never replied. Never made any comment about it. Still hasn't given a ruling. I think I was in the middle of a recording. I just got an alert saying, we have a potential burger controversy. Clock is paused. 25 minutes in.

We need a judgment. Well, here is my fear. Just before, and I'll let you, just one quick addition. My fear was that I would eat all the doubles, right? Or I'd eat 10 of them, and then you'd say doesn't count because those aren't the burgers we agreed upon. So just wanted clarity was the main thing i was looking for go

ahead check okay i just wanted to say real fast and i apologize for this um i just wanted to ask if eric and gavin have been listening to the last like two minutes and everything andrew said kind of made sense and you're aligned with it because i um i had an unfortunate in the middle of his story i knocked my diet dr Pepper over on my keyboard. And I had to run and get a towel and clean everything up. So I may have missed some of it. But if you guys were on board, then I'll just back you. I'll just be on board with that.

This is a weird episode. The only part that I would refute of Andrew's telling of that so far is that he was looking for a ruling from Gavin. is that he was looking for a ruling from Gavin because then when I tagged Gavin, I got a message from Andrew that said that he considered that a betrayal. It was a definite betrayal. How many betrayals are involved? Is that a third knife in your back then?

That is a, yeah, but Eric was doing the right thing there. So did you win the bet? No, I never got a ruling, so I stopped eating the burgers. Just one quick detailed ad. Well, I mean, give us some notice. I'm busy. I can't even get a chance to really read everything until like four hours after all this conversation.

You've had over a fucking week to make a ruling. First of all, you haven't weighed in just generally on how you felt about it. Wait, how does it still apply now, though? I thought I'd missed the i thought i'm just curious what your answer no there's no window i just like are you trying to get me to rule over it's the wrong burger because you got cheese in him no okay once again i feel like my question is very simple i ordered the wrong burger it's a tougher burger if i pursued with the tougher, would you count that as a win? And if I failed, would you count that as a loss?

But I didn't specify the original burger, Andrew. But we've always used... It's all come from you. No, we've always used the base hamburger. That's the regulation burger. But why were you doing doubles last time? You did 25 doubles. When I did the doubles, I did the double hamburger.

I accidentally ordered the McDouble. There's a difference between the double hamburger and the McDouble. Right, but the difference between 50 hamburgers and 25 double hamburgers is a bigger difference than 25 double hamburgers and 25 McDoubles. The structure is different, is just what I was saying. I was just looking for clarity. What it sounded like to me was like you have erroneously ordered these other burgers which yes to me is still the same amount of burgers and you've also said i'm willing to go through with it if i win i still win but if i lose i

don't lose i viewed it as like when you beat the game on hard and you get the achievements for normal and easy. But if you don't beat the game, you lose. Like it's still double or nothing, but you decided it wouldn't be nothing. Well, because I'm going with a tougher burger. So I was just curious. But you're only going with a tougher burger because of your inability to follow through with the bet properly. I accidentally ordered the wrong burgers. But you also already said you were ordering in waves. So surely the rest of the burgers would be normal

and you could just do that. I know. Oh, yeah. Were you trying to... Am I understanding this? Were you trying to take 50 burgers and turn them into 25 McDoubles? Or would it be 50 McDoubles?

No, it would be 25, 25 Doubles. Because we're still, I think, Jeff, he's iterating off the second bet, which was 25, 25 Double Patty Burgers. Oh, so we're at 25, okay. What I was saying, Jeff, is what I was scared about is because, like, technically,

it's the wrong burger. It's not the regulation burger, so I didn't want to eat 10 of those and then find out that those didn't actually can't but from my point of view Andrew I'm there I'm doing you know I'm doing some work and suddenly my phone's going off the clock is stopped the clock is stopped we're ruling now no no it's totally fine honestly as Eric said I was feeling pretty full after the first three. So I'm like, I don't mind that Gavin's taking time. The problem is when it's burgers, if you extend over multiple days, Gavin,

that was the issue that there was no ruling over days. I didn't really fully understand what I was ruling over, honestly. And then you refused to give me a nice summary. And we ended up just bickering for about three days. I gave you multiple summaries. Andrew said that he wanted the clock stopped because quote, this is like when a fighter

gets kicked in the balls in the UFC but I kicked myself in the balls and I'm taking all the time I can. So he also said quote, I view those pings as a personal betrayal. So if somebody gets hit in the balls in the ufc do they just hide in a room and nobody can look at them or check on them or what's going on no no this is no once again like i'm i'm not saying i'm saying i was trying to take advantage

of that clock i was more joking when i said it was a betrayal i figured gavin would be busy and you pinging him that definitely made him be aware that something was happening. I was OK with it to him taking hours because I viewed that as digestion time that I could hide behind. But he just never answered. So it was unfortunate. Also, before just a quick addition to that, before I even started, the first thing i did was filled the cup that i knocked over today i filled it with water put on my desk knocked it over immediately fell all over my keyboard all over the floor i have spilt that one liter cup of water all over my desk while it's full

three times in the past week three times okay so that's We're through the burger bag So you view Gavin having stabbed you In the back by refusing to Render a judgement He never gave a ruling I felt that it was You didn't need to stop the clock

After 25 minutes If you've only ordered some Just forget it call it a wash Mulligan go again another time burgers cost money gavin i spent money on those burgers i'd like a ruling on the burgers i'd like to not have to pay for additional burgers i'd be well i do think you could make a bit of an effort to be available gavin just over multiple days the conversation for an immediate conversation was so long by the time I was able

to sit down and read it. I wasn't fully in understanding of what was going on. So I did ask you, Andrew, for a brief summary. And all you did was argue with me again more. I explained it.

Where's the summary here? I can't point to your summary that I was meant to be ruling on. We've had a lot of talk. I felt like I was very clear in explaining I ordered the wrong burgers and all that. If I didn't, that me and i apologize that's my okay i found the bit i found the bit where i asked for a summary i said i'll need a brief summary of the events jeff said why

did this happen andrew just says what do you mean what pre what prompted the bet lift off i did it ends up just being a really long conversation i said i saw no sign off or green light you said didn't need one yeah because we had on the podcast we talked about i didn't need that we talked about this yeah that's what you're referring to and then you said gavin sabotaged the bet yeah i asked for his ruling and he refused to give it still hasn't and at this point you still haven't told me the summary of what I'm ruling over. I am so confused. I've said it three times on this podcast alone. Well, I know now what you're asking for.

I was talking, the reason I didn't rule. Could you just give a ruling now? Because I open with a ruling. I'm almost certain I did. If I didn't, that's my fault. I don't know. Do you actually want a ruling now? I'd love one.

Just so I know. It's fine. Okay, there. That's all I don't know. Do you actually want a ruling now? I'd love one. Just so I know. It's fine. Okay, there. That's all I was looking for. That's all I needed. That's all I wanted. We're good. Burgers are good.

But you do understand what could have been a 30-second typing effort has extended into hours of Slack arguing and a giant chunk of this podcast arguing about what you want. That's not my fault.

I would say a multi-day argument. Yeah was yeah at this point it was mildly infuriating uh yes yes i bought the bird i would concur so what happened what happened with the bet no it just it paused because like i i lost the momentum are we going to declare this a mulligan not a failure i just don't understand why you want a ruling if you stopped completely and have no intention of eating like a week old burger well i was just curious now i'd like a ruling now because you never gave one so i was just curious what it was it's mainly out of curiosity it's not related to the bet i was just curious what you'd actually say here's my thinking as an overall to prevent any future need of ruling, 50 patties have to make it down your gullet with bread. 25 breads.

With 25 breads. Okay. That's it. Thank you. 25 bread combos, top and bottom. That was the, because once again, and this is the last closing point on the burgers, because I thought this would be a three-minute conversation.

The whole point of the green light ahead of time was that and we agreed, I need to feel the momentum and excitement. Being stalled for like eight hours, I just didn't have an Emmy at that point. The excitement died. I lost the whale gavit. But it's all you. It all came from you.

You were like free solo trying to go up on the wrong day. Yeah, exactly, Jeff. I can't imagine a bunch of people turning up to the annual hot dog eating contest and then just stopping because they're wheat buns instead of white. I also can't imagine them saying, we've got a discrepancy. Can we get a ruling? And the judge not answering. Yeah.

And the judge is in a different country doing something else. You know what the most hurtful part of that was? I saw you in a different Slack channel make a comment in the evening. I was like, you motherfucker. You son of a bitch. That's the worst. You son of a bitch.

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slash yamx. Benefits vary by card. Terms apply. Alright, so that's knife one. That's knife one. Well, one and two because of Eric's knife. Yes. Oh, right. So what about the other knife? We had to vote. Should I set this up? one that's all right that's knife one well one and two because of eric's knife yes oh right so what about the other knife we had to vote who should sit this should i set this up who is i think i think you're the one who feels slighted and you're the one with the issue so i think it's

fair that you should be able to express that okay well we had so eric asked if he said there's another podcast. They want to put a trailer on the RSS feed for this podcast. Is that a big deal or do we care? Yes or no? Are we OK with it? I don't think any of us care. I think we're all fine with it.

Gavin immediate or Jeff immediately said yes. Then Gavin said he voted no because he wanted to put me in a swing vote position, which I viewed as an act of war. That's how I viewed that game. You said, I wish I had the exact wording, but your wording was very much like, I'm going to say no just to be interesting. And I'm going to put all the pressure of this choice on Andrew. I've watched 40 seasons of fucking Survivor. You do not try to pressure me in a vote scenario. Doesn't happen. You don't to pressure me in a vote scenario doesn't happen you don't fuck

with me in a vote so i'm doing is giving you the entire vote it's no you're not that's another thing i'm gonna dispute we went over that i wish we didn't have a million fucking messages i'm gonna try to scroll to find our conversation so i thought about this for quite a bit oh i found gavin is okay i said'm going to say no, just so that Andrew has to be the one who decides the outcome. Yeah. I viewed that as an act of war. I viewed that as you're trying to put me in an odd spot.

I can't find it. And I took that personally. I did. I took it personally. I can't find the conversation. But I essentially said that I'm betting Gavin is assuming I'm going to say yes. So to get back at Gavin, to fuck with Gavin, I think I'm going to say no, because in a scenario in which there's a two no vote on a three vote, it doesn't really matter who the swing is. Two

votes equally mean the same. Yeah, you guys are fucking annoying. That's for sure. So we went through this whole thing and I felt that I was pretty clear constantly in my messaging of this that I am voting no purely because to make Gavin uncomfortable, because I don't I don't I live in a different country. The person who's podcast it is. I don't work with them. I don't really interact with them. I have no issue with them.

I think they're great. Don't really talk to them. Gavin, you might be at a Christmas party with this person person there's going to be some level of social interaction and i figured they'd be on another podcast with you to promote it and so the timing of it could have been really funny where it's awkward if we're the only show that doesn't promote this other show i thought that could be really funny that person is already i'm pretty sure convinced, convinced that Gavin and I hate him. So I don't think this is helping. Well, that was the entire thing. It had nothing to do with them.

It had everything to do with making it as uncomfortable for Gavin as possible because I felt like he was trying to put me in a corner and I flipped it on him. I can read what you wrote. This is an interesting position to be in. I immediately want to say no, because I imagine Gavin is anticipating me as a yes vote.

If we are the only show that doesn't, it probably gets noticed by him, and he definitely wouldn't want to put the blame on me if he asked Eric why he would have to say Gavin and Andrew voted no, which would make me feel sort of bad, but it would be much more awkward for you, I imagine. I would feel bad, but once again, it's much more painful for you.

It's all about making it as miserable for you. So then you went on a podcast. They were promoting the podcast with you, and you brought this up. Can we go further? That's not where the votes ended, though. Okay. There was additional voting between that point and the podcast. Another and you brought this up can we go further that that's not where the votes ended though okay it was it was additional voting between another great point the reason we're we're now at a tie i think it's uh what no we're not we're at 2-1 right now no we're we're at 3-3 now we were at 2-1 at that moment we're at 2-1 so then i said i i got an uh

one of the editors i I asked their opinion. They voted. And then I used my second account to rebalance the votes. Because they voted yes. Yeah, they voted yes. And so I was like, well, just to be funny, I forgot I have two accounts. I technically have two votes. I'll just vote no again.

So we're back at a tie. But the whole reason why we're at a tie right now and it's not a no vote is because I asked if I could change my vote. And I also asked somebody else if they wanted to vote. So if anything, I'm the reason why we're tied and that it's not a no. This was not. It's an important detail to remember later. Who are the who are the three yes votes? Me, Eric and who?

The editor. The editor. Wait, so I would argue that Eric didn't vote. I thought he voted. eric and i were oh not on the slack i don't know if he voted somewhere else didn't vote in the slack conversation i originally thought eric did vote but looking back on it he was yeah i also thought he was just yelling at us to vote there's three of you it should just be an easy vote unfortunately it was It should just be an easy vote. Unfortunately, it was.

Look, you know the show we started here, Eric, and you expect to do normal business in our Slack channel? Yeah, you know, honestly, yes, I did. And that's my mistake, apparently. So we're tied 3-3 yeah and then and then honestly i and then i think everybody with the exception of maybe eric who still had to deal with it i think all of us forgot that that happened right like it left it was just like a week later in my head i was like ah that was funny i mean obviously we're gonna put it in yeah same but i don't think we ever doubled back and readdressed or anything.

We just left it and we just left that business unfinished. And then Eric really wanted to talk about it on the other podcast that we were on. That's true. I wanted to talk about it because I knew I could get it resolved. That's it. All I wanted was resolution. And I knew that that would be a point of resolution in that moment. And I was fine with it resolution in that moment and I was

fine with it obviously again I was wrong right but uh I feel like at that point I did have to explain the situation to John which I knew we would have to do at you know the moment we started having the discussion I thought this would be he'll find this funny probably eventually explained it all to him. And Andrew absolutely livid about it. You. Okay. So you explained it. One, I think the outcome of the story is really important because that whole

conversation ends with him. Sent with John saying, I didn't realize Andrew hated me and not even in a joking way. And just like a, like a, it was a point of like realization i don't hate john at all you voted at that point you voted failing on your i voted no because of gavin yeah but i also don't hate john and i voted no i did it because of the face eric i don't i

don't know man if i were john i might feel like you both fucking hate me right now because you both voted no maybe you don't hate me but i would think like maybe I'm so inconsequential that a lame throwaway joke is funnier to make than to help me in my career. That's maybe what I would think. This is way better promotion, though. Yeah. What's the name of the fucking podcast, Gavin? podcast, Gavin. This whole conversation for some reason has been not naming that podcast

or the Rooster Teeth podcast, and I can't figure out why. I don't know why I just started following along with that. I almost felt bad saying John because I realized no one else had. I don't know why. Why are we admitting all the names? I don't know either. I have no idea.

It's just how it came out. Poor fucking John. Poor real canon. Poor them for just having to deal with us. Honestly, what I wanted, this is my whole plan with the no vote. And once again, I told you this, Gavin, you knew this, wasn't presented in your version

of how that vote happened. I wanted it to be a no vote. I didn't want the podcast trailer on our feed because I was going to tell John that. And I figured John would be on the Rooster Teeth podcast. And I would talk to him and say, like, it'd be funny if you kind of acted annoyed about Gavin. Because I assumed the trailer would have been out before you did that podcast. And so there'd be a reason for him to naturally realize we're the only show that didn't have the trailer on it.

And then I could bring it up on the show as like it was a planned bit. And it would be way better advertising for the show than it was if we just had a trailer. It would be content. That was my thing. But the way the story was presented was just that I hate John. That isn't at all the case. I don't think I presented it that way. I explained the situation, and the reason that it happened was because it's a f*** face.

So at this point, at this point in the situation, by the way, Andrew, I think that that's some brilliant marketing on your part. Works better if you let anybody else on Earth know about it. Well, I would tell maybe. No, why would I? Why would I need to let you know about that? We all do. We all

deal in this show together. We all promote this show together. You don't know what I or Gavin or could be on and how it could come up naturally and then sandbag your your joke but i don't like what you're saying like this was all behind the scenes stuff only john and i would know and i let eric know and then i realized well the dates are just not going to line up so it doesn't matter i didn't work okay so it was an impossibility which part of my retelling did you have the issue with what part did you take to the judge i just i felt like you didn't work. Okay. So it was an impossibility. Which part of my retelling did you have the issue with? What part did you take to the judge?

I just, I felt like you didn't at all articulate my motive. My motive, the motive you gave was just like, I was against it because I thought it was funny to be against it. But you did think it was funny to be against it. Yeah, but specifically funny because it would make you feel bad and it was bad for you. So your anger is that it was bad for you so your your anger is that it was an oversimplification of the complex comedy

you because I made it seem like you didn't like John when in fact you don't like me no it's I think you're great but I enjoy making you uncomfortable yeah for the show specifically so then what happened so that that was my issue my motive the issue was I did not feel my motive was presented accurately.

It had nothing to do with John. It had everything to do with you. So not necessarily a lie. It was just more of a mission. Yes. Your version of the story was very much like Andrew kind of forced a no vote. Where it was like, no, I mean, if I did, it was because of Gavin putting me in that position. He did force a no vote.

I did. But because you put me in that position because you're trying to put me in a corner. You keep taking the outcome and adding something behind it that doesn't change the outcome. He also acknowledged that he did that in the retelling. He said, I voted no to force Andrew to have to be the swing vote because i thought it would make him uncomfortable like he's acknowledging that his part in it and that he also said no i just felt that the telling of the story was mainly slanted on me being the no guy without my motive that's what i felt was a betrayal and i was a little sensitive after

the burger ruling that also probably played back i was on edge with that with the burger ruling that also probably played a factor i was on edge with the burger lack of this was a one two i would argue i would argue andrew that uh if you the two of you together let's let's leave fake accounts and editors and stuff out we get to the original three votes right the two of you together comprise 100 of the no vote right yes g Yes. Gavin went first, you went second. Now, I would argue that because you went second and you had the knowledge of knowing that your vote is the swing vote, I would argue that at best, Gavin had a 49% of that no vote.

That's absurd. You had 51%. That's a ridiculous statement to make because you need both votes for a no. It doesn't matter who's first. That's what I was arguing. Yeah, but you can already see mine. Yeah, but one has already happened and you've seen it. You for a no. Doesn't matter who's first. That's what I was already see. Yeah, but one has already happened and you've seen it.

You have that doesn't matter. You have that is bullshit. No, that doesn't matter at all. If it were the other way and it was I was a yes and you were a no. And then Gavin was the swing vote and he voted no. I would say he was 51 percent responsible. It was OK. But do you agree if somebody declares an act of war on you, you need to respond?

I totally understand that. I had to respond. Yeah. Gavin put me in this position to do it and then told a story in which I was the sole bad guy when really he's the one that initiated it. I said that I would initiate it. So then you took it to the world's most impartial judge and I looked at all the data. I've got the ruling. Right here.

Yeah, you read the ruling, Gavin. Okay, so it was a whole thing. and I looked at all the data and I got the ruling right here yeah you read the ruling okay so the it was a whole thing we obviously once again had the argument about whether the judge was impartial I guess we eventually said that Jeff in fact was impartial Jeff writes impartially if if I think anyone threw you under the bus Andrew it was Eric as Gavin made a tiny effort to bring it up, it got passed by and Eric jumped in to make sure it was addressed. And the way he said it implied controversy, which Gavin then had to play to. That being said, I didn't really feel like any of it was character shaming or assassinating. And if anything, you came across sounding funnier and comedically maniacal. I think Gavin kind of talked you up.

My judgment is that no offense was committed or intended. Eric replies with a picture of a gavel. Yeah, I respect that you feel that way. I disagree, but I'm not, you know, that's how it goes. Why? Thank you for showing me the respect. I respect you as well. I think the issue I had more with it

was that the only person that seemed to clearly articulate what my intent was was Barbara, who had the least amount of context for any of the stuff that happened. She had no clue. John was like, I guess he hates me. She's like, I don't think he hates you. I think it's how much he hates Gavin or the show.

It's like, yeah, it has nothing to do with John or the podcast. It's everything to do with Gavin, making Gavin uncomfortable. And he forced the situation by putting me in a pressure swing position. And thus ends the second knife. Thus ends the second knife. I'm gonna be careful I don't

sort of stub my toe later today and find out that I've stabbed you a third time in the back back or looked at you funny. The problem with comedy is that it's edgy and very often when you throw a comedic bomb out there, people get shrapnel. John was gonna get hit

with some shrapnel one way or the other in this. And it sucks for him, but if you're gonna be a fearless comedian, that's the price people pay. But you should check out his wonderful new podcast, Real Canon. There may or may not be a fearless comedian, that's the price people pay. But you should check out his wonderful new podcast, Real Canon. There may or may not be a trailer in the feed of this podcast. Fucking who knows, dude.

I don't know! That's all! This whole thing! This whole thing has just been me trying to get a resolution. I just want to know if I can put it up. Let's vote. Alright, Andrew, we'll vote again. We'll do a new vote, the three of us.

Andrew, you go first. Yeah, I'm totally fine with it. I don't care. Okay. Gavin? Absolutely. I'm going to be a no. Two to one, you guys win. I disagree with your decision, but that's democracy for you. That's how it works.

No love for John here from me, but that's democracy for you. That's how it works. No love for John here from me, but good on you guys. Happy, Eric? I'm thrilled. Thanks, guys. We good? Great. We did good work here. It only took, I think, a week? Was that a week ago?

Yeah, I think it was a week. I don't know how we talk about nothing for so long. I was thinking about this earlier. If I had to describe this podcast, I don't know how we talk about nothing for so long. We fight. I was thinking about this earlier. If I had to describe this podcast, this 36-episode podcast, I would just say it's 36 episodes of one argument. And it goes in different tangents, but it's still essentially just an argument.

I was listening to one of these the other day. I guess I never used the podcast app. I wanted to hear one of the ads just to see what we were getting. And then it just played an old podcast Andrew you were a lot more quiet On the early ones You were sort of a very gentle soul Compared to the animal that you've become But I was listening to a really funny bit

About how Jeff You were talking about infamous second son Or whatever and how you captured a bunch of video Without the red component cable Plugged in And I was like oh I remember him telling the story but i never went and looked at the videos and i couldn't tell whether you were joking or not about uploading those and uh you weren't they're up there yeah and i because in my head i was like oh i just like the red channel's missing maybe that's maybe it just looked cool like a cool stylistic choice it looks absurd like not

only is there a bunch of color missing but there's like clearly like vertical scan timing that's gone all wrong there's like weird glitches and lines flipping about all over the place and you're just like but you want to walk over here's the deal dude here's the deal first off i played i almost beat the game like that. I played like... I was probably 15 hours in before Michael noticed it and showed me. But it's like so infamous. Second Son, if you're not familiar with it,

it was a PS4 game, I believe. Or PS3, PS4? I don't know. Who cares? It was probably PS3 if you're using components. It was probably PS3, yeah. And it's like an open world game about a dude in like a post-apocalyptic cityscape

kind of thing with like superpowers and shit. So I assumed that it was a stylistic choice because it's like a near future dark world kind of thing. I just embraced it. What was the style? Shit. That would be the worst style ever.

I wouldn't have played for more than about seven seconds before I was like, oh, something's wrong here. We really just wanted to feel like every scene was garbage. Just like it was filmed with a smeared lens and there was only green. Like you had a magnet on top of your TV or something. Here's the deal. If you follow those guides, you'll get those trophies. if you follow those guides you'll get those trophies you must have mentioned it earlier too because all the comments are like

oh boy Jeff forgot to plug in the red cable but those comments are from like 7 years ago attention to detail has stopped on my strong suit have you been able to play Hitman 3 Gavin? I played one for a video i was i'm gonna play the

first level again though because you know i was in a on camera goofy mode instead of i want to listen and hear the story mode also i downloaded it um right before we started this i wanted to try and play before we started recording this very episode yep and i started the you know how you can download like 40 of the game and then play yes uh so i did that the game wasn't fully downloaded but um none of the dialogue was there it was just music oh so i think they let you play the first level but maybe the uh the the sound and the audio recordings are all in the last 90 i i find that like i would say like nine times out of ten when you can play a game before it's fully downloaded the experience isn't worth it can play a game before it's fully

downloaded, the experience isn't worth it. Definitely hit or miss. Sometimes it's just, oh, you can go on the menu now. Yes. Yeah. Or like plants versus zombies. You can just walk around a mini map. It's like, cool. Yeah. That was probably the most pointless feature. Yeah. It didn't work at all. I'm frustrated with Hitman 3 because i love hitman it's one of my favorite video game series ever i play them so much i love those games uh the third one just came out and when you're loading into the third one you get prompted with the screen saying do you want to carry over all your progress from hitman 2 and i believe hitman 1 definitely hitman 2 well hitman 2 had hitman 1 levels as a part of it. So if you played Hitman 1 on Hitman 2,

you can take that with you. Okay, I did do that. I played so much Hitman 2. I love those games. And so I was like, yeah, I'll carry my progress over perfect, all my unlocks, all my stats. I love that stuff. Let's do it.

The website's down. The transfer stuff. Yeah. Doesn't work. Haven't been able to play it. And if you play Hitman 3, if you start it and then transfer it after, you lose everything you earned in the time between well i just can't play hitman 3 it's up now i i already transferred my stuff earlier no it doesn't work for me

no i just tried i tried it while we're talking it still does not load it's still broken maybe it doesn't like canadians maybe maybe it's a great game is it good well i mean just the franchise in general it's awesome okay yeah i don't think i've ever played that game i mean other than like doing it like two videos with you gavin they're so good puddle pile i like uh i like that cyberpunk you still playing it fuck yeah dude every day i play for like an hour every day just do side missions i just honestly i just i just it to sound dark, but there's something that just works so well about it. I just walk around with a shotgun and dismember people. So are you done with Cyberpunk?

Have you beaten it? Who, me? And who? Yeah. No, I haven't beaten it yet. I know you're done. Is it taking a backseat to Hitman now? Yeah.

I'll come back to it. I know how that goes. Maybe a couple of patches later, I'll come back to it. I know how that goes. Maybe a couple of patches later, I'll come back to it. I know how that goes. Poor, uh, poor Gems of War. It's just, uh, it's collecting dust right now while I play Cyberpunk. Have you played through- Also, Fallout 3 for you.

Fuck off. I'll get back to it. Have you played through the parade mission yet, Jeff, in the campaign? Yeah. Yeah. Have you gotten that far? Uh-huh. Did you not- I don't know. Are we in

a point where we can talk? Well, I don't know about spoiler talk. I don't think this will even... I'll just be super vague. I haven't done that yet. Okay. I'll be super vague. It's one of the coolest missions in a video game. I've done it a while. After that mission, there's a thing that can happen that's optional

that you can miss. Did you miss it, Jeff? Are you aware that there's an optional thing for you to do there i guess i don't know what you're talking about is this what caused you to get the shit ending andrew no it isn't but there is there is it listed as an optional objective no i don't think so i this is something i had no awareness of it is a i would say personally i think it's a big kind of story thing that can happen and I had no idea that it was a choice and that I had missed the choice it was shocking to learn hours later I don't want to

spoil it for Gavin but there's a there's an optional thing that I guess I'm assuming you're past that and you didn't do I guess so I'm at like meet Hanako at Embers it just tells me that all the time okay I think that might be after what I'm talking about it isako at Embers. It just tells me that all the time. Okay.

I think that might be after what I'm talking about. It is. It's like the last mission before you beat the game. Okay. Then yeah. Do you care, Gavin, if I mention this? Well, I could take my headphones off. When shall I turn them on? Okay.

All right. Put it in the Discord and I can watch you go. Sure. It'll be really brief. What's your buddy that you do the parade thing with? That guy? The protector. Yeah. Yeah. be really brief. What's your buddy that you do the parade thing with? That guy? The... Takamura?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something like that? Yeah. He dies in that sequence if you don't save him. Did you know that? Did you realize you had to save... I had no idea. I didn't know that was a thing.

I didn't know he died. No, I thought he was just supposed to die. No, you can save him. You can go get him. You have to go pull him out. Are you serious? Yeah, you can walk over and pull him out and save him. You can go get him. You have to go pull him out. Are you serious? Yeah, you can walk over and pull him out and save him. And you're good.

I didn't realize I had to do that. And I didn't know he died. It took me hours and someone having to tell me. I knew he died because I think they mentioned he didn't make it or something. But I had no idea it was even possible to save him. Yeah, you could have just walked over and pulled him up. He was like stuck under some rubble. Missions and shit after that?

I don't think so. I think it's just more like a narrative thing. Like he'll talk to you in a way, but it's not like a substantial, from my understanding, it wasn't a substantial thing to lose that character after that point. Okay.

I said, I told Gavin it was good. Yeah. All right, I'm back. All right, sorry about that. Yeah, he was just telling me, he was just telling me a spoiler about Cyberpunk. Okay. About this specific character. I can tell you his name if you want.

I can tell you the spoiler if you want. What else did you say? Say some other shit? No, we just talked about the spoiler. Just Cyberpunk. What would you think we talked about? Me? Why would we talk about you?

Wait, how many knives are in my back? Hold on. Why would you think we would be talking about? Let talk about you wait how how many knives are in my back hold on why would you think we would be talking about let me let me look in my back hold on a second while you're looking at your back why don't you why don't you leave the chat i'm gonna i'm gonna tell andrew another spoiler real fast i don't like this thing we started i'll slack you as soon as i know it's another spoiler related to the spoiler he told me it's actually this is a really funny coincidence uh that this this whole like bit is happening right now because unlike gavin who's been stabbing knives in my back all the time i'm a really good friend and jeff you discussed recently on an episode that you

you have a problem that you are down a shitter you've lost a shitter don Don't have a bath. Your toilet is out of commission. Yeah. So I, as the good friend that I am, has solved this problem for you. It is outside your front door. You want to go check it out? No, it's not. It is. I'll be right back.

Okay. Is today the day? Today's the day. I can't believe it no did it really yeah yeah

wait didn't you organize it Eric no because it was expensive no oh I thought you asked there was nothing on my front porch by the way thank you

that's not good wait wait it's not there what is she thinking no I'll go look again hold on by the way, thank you. That's not good. Wait, it's not there? What did she say? No, no. I'll go look again, hold on. Do you think you just looked on the doorstep when it's like further out?

I hope it's there. If it's not there, nobody say anything. I gotta make some calls. What, when we came back, you didn't see it? No, it's not. It's not a subtle object whatsoever. It's not a subtle object. This was the what color thing, right?

Did you send it to the wrong house? Did you send it to one of my old houses? I'm going to have to call some people. We're at like an hour. We're going to have an early episode. We should wrap up, guys, right? We should wrap up guys right we should wrap up i have to make some calls i have to you uh how is it not out there i that's a great question

gavin that's a great question hold on is it maybe it's not it would it be in the street i mean you would have you would have immediately opened your door and seen it and then yelled what the fuck and we would have heard you on microphone. Why don't you go out and have a real look around? Or is this the joke? And the joke is to get me to take my headphones off. No.

No, it's... I would like to wrap this up so I can make some calls. Then we won't get a reaction. Yeah, but it doesn't sound like there's a thing for him to react to at the moment,

Gavin. Yeah, but if we end it and then he's like, oh, there it is. I see your point. No, I don't. I think he would have seen it if it was there.

I'm going to make, I'm going to, I'm going to, for the sake of comedy, even though I may be getting played, I'm going to take one more look. Wait, were you sitting there the whole time to see if we talk shit? I think he was there the whole time.

Yeah. I think, I think that was a test. No, I left. That was a damn mistake. I'm still not sure if you guys are fucking with me or not, but I am going to go look one more time. There's, there's no way you haven't seen it if it's there. I got to call.

I got to make so many calls. If it's not there, it's not there. No, it's not. It's not there. not it's not there if it is not there get them to send you a picture of where it is will they do that is that something they do i gotta make some calls i gotta make i don't know i need to call some people i think usually people can see them when they let's wrap it up to come back so we wrap it up he's he's doing a lap around his house Andrew do the outro oh my god I mean we've got to wait for Jeff to come back this is funny this is that's not good the only thing

that's in my front yard that wasn't that's not supposed to be there is all of the dirt and mud that used to be under my house where they dug a giant fucking tunnel do an outro, please, Jeff? What did I miss while I was gone? It was mostly Andrew saying, we need to wrap this up. I need to make some calls.

It was mostly that the entire time you were gone. Here's what I'm going to guess. I'm going to guess Andrew thought he ordered a porta potty to my house. I'm not saying anything. And I'm going to guess it wasn't delivered. I'm not saying anything. I hope you didn't send a porta potty to somebody else's house. I'm not saying anything. And I'm going to guess it wasn't delivered. I'm not saying anything. I hope you didn't send a porta potty to somebody else's house. I'm not saying anything.

I got to make some calls. Got to make some calls. Let's wrap this up, Jeff. Okay, let's end the episode. I think we covered everything I wanted to talk about. Basketball cards are getting real dark for me. I need to get out of that. It's starting to destroy me.

And Gavin, you got anything else? No, just the outro that you're about to do. Okay. Andrew, anything else you want to cover? Any more nags in your back or anything? Yeah. All right. Well, thanks for listening to another episode of F*** Face.

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