Regulation Podcast - The New High Five // Who is the F**kface Superhero? [75]
Episode Date: November 3, 2021Geoff, Gavin, and Andrew talk about the invention of the high five, putting fingers in eachother's mouths, the Smashing Sportsman, Phase 1 to Phase 2 pockets, and more. Want to contribute to bits? Ema...il what you can do to ffacebits@gmail.com Sponsored by Hello Tushy (http://hellotushy.com/FACE) and HelloFresh (http://hellofresh.com/face14 and use code face14). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Is this F*** Face? Did we start?
Yeah, I think we started.
Welcome to F*** Face episode 74.
There we go, it started.
No, it's 75.
75, part 2, act 7, season 3? 2?
What season are we on? Season year two episode 75 how many episodes
of season one and how many episodes are we into for season two uh i don't expect anyone to actually
know i'm just kind of saying that are we at the mid-season finale yet that's the thing did you
so when i got disney plus one of the most fascinating things was seeing how they did seasons for kid shows there will be like 700 episodes in season one and then season two is six
like I don't know how they decide that line I feel like that's what we're doing we'll have a
million episodes in season three and season four will be four just break it up have it be completely
uneven nonsensical which fits for the show yeah that's true speaking of fitting for the
show uh does anybody have any fruit related content they wanted to throw out i don't but
i'm gonna fruit it out we're all fruited out i i am equally fruited out but i do have a very
serious question for gavin and i've talked to you this just blew my mind and i shouldn't even teach when do you think the high five was invented
we did talk about this yesterday what year what year do you think the high five was invented
um 600 the year 600 that's your guess ad BC? Yeah. That's another great question.
AD.
Who doesn't specify BC?
So in your mind, assuming Jesus existed, he existed in a world without a high five.
Okay.
Just want to make sure.
Oh, so it's going to be way earlier than that.
I don't know.
I'm just curious.
Well, I feel like, were people really tracking that in, you know, if it was 2500 BC, would
anyone be like, hmm, better to high five today?
Oh, shit.
I have no...
Okay, I'm going to re- regas. Okay. Go ahead ten
You get closer on the second one and there was a lot of room to get further away
Closer on the second one.
You got further.
And there wasn't a lot of room to get further away, but you did.
What was it?
I was watching.
So for context, I was watching a playoff baseball game between the Houston Astros and the White Sox.
Fuck the Astros, by the way. Fuck the Astros.
The announcers, late in the game, just randomly throw it.
Like, oh yeah, manager of the Astros, Dusty Baker, inventor of the Astros. The announcers and like late in the game just randomly throw it like, oh yeah, manager of
the Astros, Dusty Baker,
inventor of the high five.
Dusty Baker apparently
invented the high five in
1977, Gavin.
Absolutely not.
That's the
immediate reaction. You're saying the people were like
storming Normandy before
the high five? Yeah, the high five was not a popular thing. were like storming Normandy before the high five?
Yeah, the high five was not a popular thing.
They were storming Normandy with no way to celebrate.
They just, they did it.
They got through and they were just like,
oh, yay, I guess.
They just shook hands.
It was the low five.
Now that's the thing.
The low five has been around since the 20s, I believe,
in the history research that I've done done he's saying that no one before that let's never just no no no no no no no no now that's that's another device a point now they're yeah dusty baker is the most common
like inventor of it there are other documentations of high fives before that point but i don't think
they were called the high five.
And I don't think it was like their thing.
It was maybe a thing they did once.
So he just named the high five.
No, he didn't name it.
He I would argue they popular here.
I'm just going to read you an excerpt of the first high five that happened.
OK, the conventional wisdom has been that the origin of the high five occurred between Dusty Baker and Glenn Burke of the L.A. Dodgers at Dodger Stadium October 2nd, 1977.
How did they both know how to do it?
No, I'm getting to that.
The last day of the regular season in the sixth inning, Dusty Baker hit a home run off Houston Astros pitcher J.R. Richard.
It was Baker's 30th home run, making the Dodgers the first team in history to have four hitters with at least 30
home runs. It was a wild, triumphant
moment and a good omen as
the Dodgers headed to the playoffs. Burke
waited on deck, thrust his hand
enthusiastically over his head to greet his friend
at the plate. Baker, not
knowing what to do, smacked it.
In quotes. His hand
was up in the air and he was arching way
back, says Baker. So I reached up and hit his hand. It seemed like the and he was arch away back says baker so i reached up and
hit his hand it seemed like the thing to dare that is the origin he didn't know i've been left
hanging in the year like 2020 no one had ever done a high five and he wasn't left hanging
it blew my mind no there are other people like i've read a thing that apparently magic johnson
also claims that he invented the high five in like 1978 there are different stories there are other people like i've read a thing that apparently magic johnson also claims that he
invented the high five in like 1978 there are different stories there are different origins
there are different things he could point to but the most popularized version the most popularized
invention or the person who invented it is dusty baker dusty baker is credited as the high five guy
i'm blown away i was blown away i was telling Andrew, it's kind of like how
the
mullet
hairstyle has been around for a very, very
long time. It was super popular in the 80s,
but it wasn't called the mullet until the Beastie
Boys did it in 1994.
I was in the army
before the mullet became the mullet.
And I would assume
that was like 100 years ago.
So imagine the Beatles.
They all just got out of a car.
There's a big crowd waiting for them.
The crowd, they've all got their hands in the air.
The Beatles just walk by.
Yeah.
They just know.
Not been invented yet.
It's not a thing that's, yeah, hasn't been invented yet.
Nobody knows.
Maybe a low five.
A low five, very much invented.
Popularized. Not the high five. Maybe a low five. Very much invented. Popularized.
Been around since the 20s.
Not the high five.
The high five is a relatively new creation.
I was way off.
You were way off, and then you went even further away.
That was fantastic.
I was thinking of, like, schools.
I was like, when was the first school?
They're just low fiving.
Oh, my God.
I can say something that y'all can't say. I am older low-fiving. Oh my god. I can say something
that y'all can't say.
I am older than the high five.
You are.
Wow.
What year did you say the Beastie Boys
coined the term mullet? 1994.
So I'm the same age as the mullet.
You're the same age as the mullet, and I'm
two years older than the high five.
I feel like
if you said that people would think damn he looks good for his age if you're like i'm two years older
than the high five nobody would assume like you're 70 you look great for 70 what do you think the
next thing will be then so there's potentially it's going to be something in the future more
universal than the high five but it hasn't happened yet. I mean, COVID has been a terrible thing for the high five.
It has really hurt the popularity, I would assume.
Here's what I think.
I think that it provides, and this actually dovetails into something that I'm going to talk about later.
But this, I think that there is a market for the next thing and we've already identified that it wasn't that long ago
that you could flip the world on its
shoulders by
slapping two hands together. So I think
it's up to us to determine
what the new High Five is and
to popularize it. It has to
be simple. It has to be. It's gotta be
simple. When was that playground game
invented where the kids would like
you know you clap yourself and then you clap the
other person's hand and then you clap
the schoolgirls? Yeah, that was
October 24th,
1967. Like, what do you fucking
mean when did it come out? Like, that was surely
way before the high five, but they're high fiving
left and right in that. No, it's like
a mid five. A mid five, I'd say,
is patty cake. That's a chest five.
That's a chest pass five. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe the chest five. A mid five. That's like a chest five. That's a chest five. That's a chest pass five.
Maybe that's what it is.
Maybe the chest five.
No.
Maybe we popularize the mid five.
Like our high five,
we've been flying a little too high the hubris alone
the last 40 years or so.
Maybe we need to take it down a notch.
Physically, metaphorically, metaphysically,
maybe we should start mid fiving. You know what I mean? Now, do we need to take it down a notch physically metaphorically metaphysically maybe we should start mid-fiving you know what i mean now do we need to do like it's back of the hand like two backs of the hands for the high five because i feel like it needs to mechanically be
different than just a high five but then again the low five the high five same thing mechanically so
maybe we don't may i think maybe touching hands going forward is a problem because of germs and stuff
who invented the fist bump that's what yeah i was gonna say i don't know who invented the fist bump
i read dusty baker encouraging long distance high fives which i feel like you only say if you're the
inventor of the high five and you really want to yeah you're just it's a stretch the long distance
high five is a stretch yeah who invented the fist bump i bump? I don't know. It's a great question.
We just need to figure out what the next thing is.
People do elbow touches.
Well, I mean, we're doing the jet ski one.
We're going to do a jet ski five.
Yeah, but that's not.
Yeah.
I'd love to see somebody do a home run and then do a jet ski five.
We're going to, we're definitely going to elevate the high five, but we need to be thinking
of what the new high five is that then we can take credit for and popularize right like dusty baker did we like maybe it's like a like a knee knock you just
walk up and like i don't know i don't i don't like that maybe a toe touch but then that's how
dudes find each other in bathrooms at the airport so maybe that could be confusing i don't know wait
what oh you don't know about that yeah Yeah, like there have been a bunch of politicians
that have gotten caught doing it in the past.
It was a popular thing to do when it wasn't as,
well, for people that are closeted
or it wasn't as socially acceptable
to be out and proud and gay.
Dudes sometimes would go into certain bathrooms
and you would sit on the stall
and then you would like touch the foot
or like stick your foot under the thing
and then if the other guy touched it, then you would know that that person, and you were sit on the stall and then you would like touch the foot or like stick your foot under the thing and then if the other guy touched it,
then you would know
that that person
and you were into the same stuff
and then you could get
to know each other.
Yeah,
it was,
I think a senator
or a congressman
got caught doing it
in the 90s,
early 2000s.
Was that just like
a reporter
taking a shit
and then the book came out?
I think,
I think,
I think somebody,
yeah,
I think something like that.
I just know that that's a thing that was was done.
So, well, first off, let's let's take it back for a minute.
What is a high?
What is the expression of a high five?
What are you trying to convey with a high five?
Oh, it's celebration, right?
Like celebration and excitement, accomplishment.
Somebody has achieved a good thing.
Yeah, because I typically I relate it to sports but it could
be beyond that i think it's just so you're celebrating the act of someone you you could
high five cooking good bread it could be anything but so yeah so we we need to we need to find the
new the 2021 to lead us into the future to lead to so that we're 2051 people are still doing it.
We need to find the new thing
that's a way to express ourselves
physically with another person
that is simple and safe
and doesn't transmit germs and diseases
but is still super cool and hip and fun
and maybe makes noise
because if you do a good high five,
there's a pretty awesome slap.
The slap is so satisfying.
That's my biggest issue with the
long distance high five is the best part is that contact doesn't work otherwise i agree i i feel
like this could be a great thing for the comment leaders to help figure out they want to submit
pitches like that could be a good move sounds like jeff's already figured it out do you because i i
feel like what so what is it a mid five is that what we about? No, I don't think it's a mid five.
I don't know what it is.
I just,
I just,
I just think that you,
you start at the beginning and you figure out what you're trying to do and
then go from there.
And what we're trying to do is find a new way to celebrate an accomplishment
or an exciting moment,
uh,
without being a living in the past or paying royalties to dusty Baker.
And it needs a sound.
Yeah,
it doesn't gotta have a sound.
Yeah.
And it has most likely contactless. So that's another layer too. I think we should have it be contact sound. Yeah, it does need a sound. Gotta have a sound. And it has, it's most likely contactless.
So that's another layer, too.
I think we should have it
be contactless,
just workshop.
This covers everything.
There's no scenario
at that point
where you couldn't do it.
Can you guys do that thing
where you put your finger
in your mouth and go like this?
Can anyone do that?
Maybe we do that.
You just walk, yeah,
just walk.
Next time you want a high five,
just go at the same time.
It makes a noise.
Let's try not to spread germs.
Everyone put your finger in your mouth.
And then fish rake it out.
Yeah, maybe that's not the best one.
We'll put our fingers in each other's mouths.
Well, that's not bad.
That's interesting.
If you can make that noise in someone else's mouth,
I'd be very impressed what's more impressive eating an entire bar of 100% lit chocolate or whatever that was
or i think if you could first time put your finger in someone's mouth and make the pop sound. That's way more impressive.
Can I try on you?
Well, you gotta wash your finger first.
Yeah, I thought that that was assumed,
but let's, yeah, we'll, we can discuss the ground rules ahead of time if you want to.
But I assumed I would wash my hands.
Oh, what if I put on a glove?
What if I put on a blue, like a rubber glove?
Yeah, I think the extra grip might cause the noise to change, though.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Well, we'll figure this out.
We can cover this when we're in person throwing bases.
Imagine if we both put our fingers in each other's mouths
and then got a double pop.
At the same time.
That, to me, in a post-COVID world world will be the ultimate I don't know if I've
ever respected Gavin more than him
Jeff suggesting that he put a glove on
to put hands in your mouth and your response
was it might damage the
sound it might break the integrity
of the pop you cannot make this
count
we should also make sure we
cut our fingernails oh that's another yeah that's important
yeah oh i'm i'm honestly i'm so up for trying that i am too i'm pretty excited about it to be honest
i'm sitting here practicing so should we yeah i can talk about like one of the actual things we planned on talking about and
not because we're like almost 20 minutes into dusty baker we talked about the high five why
is that so funny to me i long time ago now uh it feels like
six months ago yeah at least like three three or four months ago it's probably like you came to be
you came to be with something that you read that i thought was insane and then we started talking
about it and i think we came up with a brilliant idea. And then we teased it.
And then other important Apple related things got in the way.
And fast forward to like months of banana content later.
And here we are.
Do you want to explain what superheroes means and how it relates to face?
So, yes, the superhero thing.
It's really there is a an NPR podcast named planet money and they tried this thing they wanted to see if they could buy a superhero was essentially the
idea and they couldn't like they couldn't get why why did they want to buy a superhero
uh just to like representation of the thing because like there's so many superheroes especially in the
larger companies catalog and that you could essentially lease it out if you wanted to just
having in a world in which franchises are important and superheroes are everywhere,
it couldn't be a bad thing to have your own superhero.
And there are so many available.
The question was, could you acquire a superhero that nobody really knows about or cares about?
And it wouldn't.
It just was impossible.
They were unable to do it largely because of Groot.
Groot is like the example of a character nobody
gave a fuck about that Disney now makes hundreds of millions of merchandise with in the future so
it's like it's just it's not worth whatever you'd buy for it we are in sort of an interesting
position of Rooster Teeth's tie to DC we're in the inside already in a sense so the idea I guess at
that time was if we could then since we're already on
the inside could we get our own superhero well i i the idea being uh it was a response out of
necessity because you thought oh it's cool planet money is trying to to essentially buy a superhero
to be their new mascot or logo but what i I'm seeing, I'm seeing a troubling, a really troubling trend.
I've watched the boys.
I know where this goes.
I'm seeing that Planet Money
is now going to have a leg up
on every other brand
because they have a superhero
to defend them.
Sure, not physically, of course, right?
But we don't know that.
I feel like if Planet Money
and all these other entities are going to be
out there hiring and buying superheroes to be their own ambassadors face needs a superhero to
defend us and defend our brand against these other brands i feel like it's a necessity at this point
no i completely agree and so i i said at that time it was months ago that we should all look we should
all try to find the best DC
character we could find that fits our idea. It can't be a popular character. We're not going to
be able to acquire Batman. We're not getting Batman. But what is like an obscure, hard to
find character? So that is a thing we all, I think, independently did, or at least I did.
We talked about it. I feel like we should present our examples.
Okay, that's great. I'll say I went
to the powers that be and I said, hey, we have this idea. We want to do this. Can you talk to
Warner Brothers and see if they'll give us a superhero? And they said, who's the superhero?
And I said, well, we haven't gotten that yet. And they said, this is a stupid idea. And they're
probably going to say no, but at least come back to us with a superhero. So then we decided,
I sent out a link of lesser known superheroes and I thought we'd all go through and what was
the plan to pick 10 each, I think?
I think it was, yeah, like that seemed like a lot
after I went through the list. I have three.
I have three and there's really one I
believe in truly that I think
is a perfect encapsulation
of this show. It honestly makes me
a little bit worried about your future, Jeff,
in a sense. Okay.
I'm very excited about it i
think there's a clear number one but i have three okay i know how many you guys have well why don't
you go first okay i assume i'm the only one that did any research for this is my well you shouldn't
assume that but we've had months to do it on this we have i thought we're gonna do this i i like
crammed i mentioned like four episodes ago i cram homework yeah so this is this is my first one i don't think this is these are just some of them i just think are great
i'm not saying we should pursue this there's a an issue of a comic that is the gorilla wonder
is strange sports stories the gorilla wonders of the diamond look at how happy that fucking
monkey is sliding into the play it just brings joy to my heart. Stealing a base.
I don't feel like they would be missing anything
if we took the Gorilla Wonders of the Diamonds.
I don't think that's a big loss for DC.
Okay, so Gorilla Wonders of the Diamond.
His name is Gorilla Wonders of the Diamond.
It's a whole team.
The entire team.
It's an entire baseball team of gorillas.
So we're buying a gorilla-based baseball team.
Okay, sure yeah it's all
about these super smart gorillas that end up falling in love with baseball for no real reason
but they become obsessed with it and then they enter a league and they just dominate they're
the greatest baseball team in that league well listen in a world where uh we learned to skateboard
from monkeys i think this makes total sense it does now the second one and I just I personally this just makes me laugh
And the character's name is the printer's devil
He is in two issues of detective comics. He's in 539 and 540. This is what he looks like
Essentially this character. He's a sports writer
He's a sports columnist at the paper and the paper is like, oh, we're going to sell our company.
And he's like, we can't have that.
That could fuck everything up.
So he buys a goat mask and a Trident and he starts causing mischief and he ends up canceling out the sale.
That's his whole thing.
He's just a guy with a goat mask and a Trident and he's trying to spook the new owners.
No, it's just it's Tom.
It'd be like in Scooby-Doo, they amassed him.
Oh, it's Tom.
He covers sports.
He's our beat writer for the local team.
His trident is a gun.
It's a trident dart gun thing.
Like, it's not even real.
It's just like the corniest.
He's just, he's a guy.
He's a guy that went to a Halloween store,
bought a goat mask and a cape.
He also got like hoof boots.
He's a disgruntled employee who stopped at the Spirit Halloween store, bought a goat mask and a cape. He also got like a hoof boots. He's a disgruntled employee who stopped at the Spirit Halloween store.
So this is we're on to the number one.
This is I'm so excited about this.
I've been sitting on this for a long time.
The character's name.
The character's name is the Smashing Sportsman because we are a baseball.
You're a baseball show.
He's in two issues of the Justice League.
Fifty five.
Fifty six.
He is so unknown this is
literally the only image of him i could find online and there's not much fanfare that is all
you can acquire now let me his name well okay so his villain name is the smashing sportsman
his character name is marty baxter so let me just read the description of what the origin story of Marty Baxter is.
And I bought the issue of the comic because I had to just verify some of the things that they say.
And I also have some photos of those to back it.
Marty Baxter's world came crashing down when he learned that he had arthritis.
We got a character with arthritis.
That is his great struggle.
we got a character with arthritis that is his great struggle the young baseball star now found it in quotes impossible to swing a bat and was absorbed in his problems as he sat in the stands
watching the 1967 world series that he'd otherwise been playing in so this is a baseball player who
cannot swing a bat anymore due to arthritis i love this now this is jeff this is
now this is where i'm worried about you what i don't need to worry about is what happens is he's
watching the game and then this fucking alien cube falls out of the sky and hits him in the back
okay struck in the back by a black sphere baxter leaped to his feet with a stunning discovery in
quotes my arthritis pain gone.
I feel like a new man bursting with power.
His euphoria lasted only a moment before his resentment set in.
The metal railing in front of Marty crumpled between his fingers as he lunged from the stands.
I'll make the sports world pay for what they did to me.
I'm going to smash down the stadium. To theished baseball players he screamed down with all sports
so his whole thing is he was a baseball player who got arthritis couldn't play anymore because
of it gets hit by an alien cube in the back and then he uh here we go i'm just doing some
screenshots of the comic that i took of some visuals. Do you have this comic?
I bought it, yes, specifically to confirm.
That's him ripping the railing off.
Oh, there's the black sphere.
This is him screaming at very confused baseball players,
down with all sports,
as he's ripping the railing off of the side of the thing.
So his whole deal is he hates sports.
The villain, he's not targeting people
his entire mission is he's going city by city breaking stadiums so they can't play sports in
them that's his whole deal that's how they track him down they're like where's the next stadium oh
it's two times over time passed between that thing twatting him in the back and him ripping the
railing off is it just maybe maybe six seconds it is instant the back and him ripping the railing off? Is it just immediate? Maybe six seconds. It is instant.
He immediately is ripping the thing.
That's the laziest Arshin story ever.
So, if that was
a movie, the stadium would be coming
down and the opening credits would still
be like the names of the people in the movie would
still be on the screen. Did anybody
ever claim ownership over the Black
Sphere? No, I don't know about that. I don't think so. I think people in the movie would still be on the screen. Did anybody ever claim ownership over the black sphere?
No,
uh,
I don't know about that.
I don't think so.
I think these were,
I don't think so.
I think there were independent alien beings that represented themselves as
spheres.
And then when they hit you,
they powered you up essentially was the idea.
So he gets,
he gets hit in the back and they're like,
oh fuck,
this guy is destroying stadiums left and right.
They,
they cannot play sports oh fuck this guy is destroying stadiums left and right they cannot play sports
because of this guy so like robin and some other character figure out what stadium he's gonna be
at and they find him destroying the stadium and then he he like just destroys them he like is
super strong he can blow wind like he's a ridiculous character and he beats them up and
is like ah maybe we ought to have a trade and i should join the justice league like they do in the big leagues like it's all weird like sports metaphors and
so it's the whole thing is he breaks stadiums now how they defeat him is maybe even arguably more
bizarre uh it turns out that the only weakness that these alien black spheres have is really shitty jokes like really
lame dad joke type jokes
and so they defeat the
aliens by running to where they're
hanging out these guys
and they start cracking bad jokes at
Marty Baxter and he starts
laughing and the laughter causes
the alien sphere to float out of his body
and then they zap it with a taser
and it's gone
that's how they defeat the alien they also make a very clear point that they are not going to
arrest marty baxter because he was possessed by the alien sphere he is not liable for the stadiums
that he destroyed in between those two events so was he he didn't he wasn't like down with all
sports once the ball left no as soon as the ball left
he's just like ah that was weird fucking i broke like eight stadiums sorry about that don't arrest
me don't put me down please that scene in superman returns where he stops the plane from like
crashing into the baseball game and marty baxter's like oh man son of a bitch I love the idea of Marty Baxter being
at that game and getting hit by the sphere and starts breaking it anyway man stops the jet
the stadium gets destroyed so that is my 1a the smashing sportsman there's like no fanfare about
him I don't think anyone knows he exists like as I said, that is the only image of that guy I could find.
I think that's a fantastic
selection, Andrew,
and a great nomination. I think you did
a wonderful job.
That is truly...
I don't even know how you found that one. That is a very
minor, minor character.
I have three as well.
If you're ready, I can give you mine.
I would love to hear them.
I'm going to post them. I'm going to post them.
I'm going to do the same thing you did.
I'm just going to post them in the...
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Here's my three.
I did this bit with your carts.
Yeah, now here's what I...
You just did my bit again.
No, no, here's what I'm doing.
I looked at this as a fantastic opportunity
to show the difference between our three cultures.
I don't think we lean into enough the idea that you're a Canadian and I'm an American and Gavin is British as far as we know.
And we're all similar and we're all friends.
We all come from different places, different worlds.
We've had different experiences.
Different ages.
Different ages.
We're different cultures.
different ages, we're different cultures. So
I thought this was a great opportunity to
show the difference between our three cultures, because
as soon as we had the idea, I knew
that you, as a Canadian,
were going to
say you would do the job, and then do the
job, and be happy and excited about it.
And I knew that as a British
person, we assume, Gavin
would take one look
at it, decide, I'm not going to do about
that, and then ignore it until the moment
it's time to do it. And then when we do the
podcast, he would go, what?
Huh? I don't know. Which
I'm assuming he will be filling in very
soon with, which I can't wait. And then I, as an American,
did the American thing, which is
I copied off of your work, and then I'm taking
credit for it. I'm okay with this.
This is fine. Yeah, And that's the difference between
our three cultures.
It's not that I didn't want to do the work,
it's that I wanted to highlight that
because I thought it was a great opportunity to
show how similar but different we
all are. Gavin, do you have your three ready?
Yeah, just posted them.
You know,
I've been in America a long time. I'm
basically an American now.
So what's happened is Gavin has posted mine,
which looks strikingly similar to Andrew's.
I think the Smashing Sportsman is perfect.
That's such a good one.
That's the dumb...
That's so stupid.
I didn't realize...
Like, I knew there were some dumb superheroes,
but that one is
like what was that written on like a napkin like what who what was the long was it just meant to
be a very temporary character yeah it was very like clearly i mean he's not even it's like
technically he's just a a physical shell for the alien sphere like marty Baxter is just a guy that has arthritis is his character.
Never seen again after that?
No.
He has two appearances
and that's it
and it's brief
and like there's no...
Well, Eric posted a picture
of him getting punched
in the face.
It's probably from the same comic.
Oh, that's like the cover
of the comic, I believe.
Oh.
And who's punching him?
Is that Robin?
I'm assuming?
Robin dressed as Batman?
Well, it's the big R on his chest.
Bat-Robin.
Bat-Robin.
Yeah.
Oh, no, it looks like Wonder Woman fell and hit her head,
bonked her head.
It seems to me like we need to begin a campaign
now to convince DC to sell or give us
the Smashing Sportsman.
He seems perfect. He is perfect, and he was literally the Smashing Sportsman. He seems perfect.
He is perfect,
and it was literally
the first one I looked at.
I was trying to pull it up,
and I accidentally came on that one.
And then I spent the next
like five or six hours
reading every single one on the list,
and none compared.
When did he come up with his name?
The Smashing Sportsman?
Was it after the first stadium?
I think so. Or it like right after the
railing i think it's um i think it's immediate i don't know when i don't think there's a time in
which he um i wonder if it was even him coming up with the name or if it was the alien sphere
coming up with the name it's another great question it's like where did he begin in the
sphere end uh man i i'm fucking jazzed i think that face could do a lot worse than being officially protected by the smashing sportsman.
He seems like the perfect he seems like the perfect brand defender.
That's what makes me worried about it with you, Jeff, is he's a character with arthritis who can no longer swing a bat because of it.
You have the arthritis.
You're going to attempt to swing a bat.
I'm very nervous that we are one alien sphere away
from you becoming the Smashing Sportsman.
We'll put a net over the top of him.
I go out every day and pray to get hit in the back
with a black alien sphere, and it doesn't happen.
If one day my prayers are answered, look out, world.
It's just such a weird thing to turn against.
It'd be like if Peter Parker got bit by the spider
and then he just decided to kill all bus drivers
because the bus drove off with him.
Because it's the first thing he saw.
As a baseball podcast,
I think it fits perfectly with us.
Well, I would love to hear what the comment leavers have to think about it. Absolutely. I don't think we're a baseball podcast, I think it fits perfectly with us. Well, I would love to hear what the comment leavers have to think about it.
Absolutely.
I don't think we're a baseball podcast anymore.
I think we're a fruit podcast.
I'm okay with that, as long as it's apple.
Not bullshit like banana.
Apple the fruit, not the product.
Once again, important clarification.
Yeah, sorry.
I was not paying attention.
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amex.ca slash ymx benefits vary by card terms apply So what did you want to touch on, Jeff? You had a huge list, apparently.
Oh, yeah.
So, well, the uniform innovation.
Yeah, we're down to just that, I think, actually.
Perfect.
And so when I was in Florida last week,
as always, my body was in Florida on the other podcast,
but my mind and my heart and my brain
were back here with you guys
trying to come up
with ideas for face and uh in that process i actually had a really good conversation
with minor league fan jack and then producer ben uh who's honestly in a league of his own uh he
really we should just call him league of his own ben uh he's he's very he's he's really great uh
it really stands out next to minor league fan jack let me tell you after spending four days with those two uh anyway and in that process they were actually super super helpful they they uh i
don't know where their ideas begin and end and my you know what it was just like a long conversation
but i want to i want to give them huge props uh because they were instrumental uh in the evolution
of this idea that i feel like you're going against literally what you said america does
you as the american move you should have just solely taken credit for this is your genius.
Yeah, maybe I'm not the best American.
I'm trying, you know.
That was a great opportunity to illustrate the difference between our cultures.
But on a personal level, I strive to be better.
So anyway, the world was turned on its head the day that
Beef Bracelet came out I think we all can
agree with that I think that
nobody saw it coming
it smacked us all
flipped our brains around
changed the way we think about things
made everybody's life better and then
we thought we were good but we didn't rest there
we immediately not immediately
but with the appropriate amount of r&d time uh we hit them with our sophomore release too
spicy icy right nobody saw it coming totally different lane a lot of symmetry between the
products totally makes sense uniform uh which by the way uniform uh providing uh or uh combining
the power of one with the fabric of the farm uniform can easily
produce both products. It makes total sense. So I've been thinking since then, because I'll be
honest with you, people are chomping at the bit. They're like knocking on my door like, Jeff,
we want what's the next Too Spicy Icy? We want the next thing. I had somebody in Florida
at like a community meetup offer to help fund the Too Spicy Icy. And I'm like, I appreciate that,
sir. But that project is well on its way.
Let's look to the future and what the next thing is.
And in this process, I found that I felt a profound responsibility
to create the next great thing.
And that's not a good place to be when you want to create, right?
Desperation isn't the best place to be when you're trying to invent.
You don't want that pressure.
Some people thrive under it, but I find it's best just to kind of let it work itself out i was having that
conversation with with jack and ben you know talking about how frustrating it is and how uh
i i just feel this unrelenting pressure and i i didn't think i'd be able to come up with anything
for a while then i read an article that changed my life did you guys know this and by the way this
is going to be phase one i'll go ahead and say this right now.
This is phase one of this project.
Okay. Did you guys know
that until
19...
Well, I don't know the year. Until about
1914. Until about 1914
in World War I,
people didn't wear wristwatches.
Yeah. Are you familiar with that?
Yeah. People had pocket watches. Are you familiar with that? Yeah, people had pocket watches.
Wristwatches were considered garish.
They were also considered feminine.
Some people that did wear them were women,
so it was considered not manly to wear one,
and this was in very different times back then, right?
And that kind of thing mattered to people more, I guess.
And it wasn't until World War I
that when soldiers realized they didn't have time
to be fishing around in their pockets
for their pocket watch to see what time it was,
they started wearing wristwatches
and it changed the world.
All because some soldier
didn't want to put his hand in his pocket
because he would have to take it off the trigger.
That one moment, even though,
even though, this is 1914 to 1918, right?
Even though fucking Patek Philippe
in 1868, a switch watch manufacturer, Swiss watch manufacturer invented the first rich wristwatch
for Countess Koskowitz of Hungary, right? So in 1868, the wristwatch is invented and brought out
to the world, introduced to the world. And it's not until 60 years later that it rises in popularity. Fast forward to 2021. Do you guys realize that the
global luxury watch market is estimated at $7.18 billion and that by 2025, it's expected to reach
$9.28 billion dollars think about that
that is 9 billion dollars
of wealth that will be generated in one
year 75 years
after the 100 years after
the first dude decided
I should put this stupid
watch on my wrist so I don't have to keep fishing around in my pocket
so you're saying that's insane
there's a clear there's a future for
this like it's going to continue what I'm, what I'm saying is there is a tremendous opportunity for us to look at what's in our pockets and put it on our wrist.
Think about it.
What are people?
I've been doing research.
I've been doing tons of, believe it or not, there's a ton of research on what people carry in their pockets.
Here's a few of the most common things.
Wallets, pins, keys, candy,
snacks, we've covered that of course,
loose change, dollars,
phone,
comb, mints and gum, headphones,
lighter, chapstick, lipstick,
makeup, knives, flashlights.
All we gotta do
is put any one of those things on our
fucking wrist and then
popularize it.
And we will make $9 billion in 2025.
It's no sillier than what they did in world war one.
Why not a wrist comb?
Why not wrist keys?
Why not like key gloves?
Why not like Wolver keys?
You hit a button and they extract out of your fingers.
I don't know,
but what about Edward locksmith hands,
right?
There's all kinds of stuff
we could do.
I'm a big fan
of the Swiss Army wrist.
I think it should be
a versatile product
as like 20 different things.
And my girlfriend
brought up to me,
she was like,
the wrist wallets
already exist,
wristlets exist,
that kind of stuff exists.
And I'm like, yeah,
but the fucking wristwatch
existed for 65 years
before somebody realized,
oh, this thing is awesome
as dicks.
Let's fucking use it.
And now it's making billions of dollars a year.
I'm telling you-
Wrist keys exist.
If you go swimming.
Wrist keys, but we need to popularize them.
It's not about that.
It's okay that they already exist
because they're not popular yet.
I've seen the wrist phone cases exist too,
like little Pip Boys people could put,
but it takes the right group of people to look at it, see the need, see the potential,
and then fucking pounce on that potential.
And boom, hit a thousand baseballs to the moon of success.
And that's what I think we should do, okay?
So phase one is we find stuff that we can take from our pockets and put it on our wrist.
I already even looked.
I put it in the F*** Face subreddit,
and then I took it out.
I didn't want you guys to see it.
These already exist.
Slap wrist, like slap bands,
that are also pins.
Perfect.
They exist.
You didn't know that.
I didn't know that because they're not popular yet.
Pins?
But we can make our own.
Yeah, like, you know, writing pin?
A writing pin?
Slap band writing pin.
I thought you meant like pins.
Yeah, so you don't need to carry a pin around anymore
you just slap it on your wrist
and the P-E-N
P-E-N
pins
it's just one idea
people from the south
say it the same
pin pen
I am from the south though
so maybe I do
anyway
so like wrist pins
right
that's one thing
we could do tomorrow
so what I'm presenting
to you guys
isn't necessarily
a product.
It's an idea for a suite of products.
If anything, it's an idea for a revolution.
I mean, am I writing with my wrist
or am I just pulling a pen out of it?
You pull it off and then you can write with it
and then you slap it back down.
Or who knows?
Because we can invent things too.
I'm just saying that exists.
We can buy it.
We can put our logo on it.
We can change it around.
We can improve upon it.
Right? They had to improve upon the wristwatch
by the way. It used to have to have, in those
days, it used to have to have a guard around the top of it
because they had to protect the crystal
and they were scared that it would break and glass was
very hard to come by. So they had these like metal
things that covered and then they just had holes where
you could see the hours.
And then we improved upon
that and now you have a fully-faced glass wristwatch.
We can improve upon these things that already exist
as we popularize them and help usher wrist entertainment,
wrist convenience into the 21st century.
We need to drag it into the 21st century
like they drug watches into the 20th century.
I would have never guessed that the handshake
came out after the wristwatch.
That's one of my takeaways from this. I think I like where your head is at. Do we have to like
rank what is most important to us as far? No, I think we just I think we just think about what
would do well. And like I said, I'm not presenting you necessarily a the pen. The slap band pen is
an idea that I had and I looked and it exists and we can work on that.
But I would more just present to you the idea that start thinking in this direction.
What how could face revolutionize people's wrists?
We already did it once with wrist with beef bracelet.
Obviously, everybody knows that.
But with the help of uniform uniform combining the power of one with the fabric of the farm
uniform, we can there's almost nothing we can't do. You know what I i mean do we still need to have a wrist bracelet if we're doing this we
could we could do whatever you want okay i'm just curious if this is replacing if this is like an
innovation on the beef bracelet or if it could we could we could we could further innovate the
beef bracelet we could make it a part of this it could maintain its own thing, maintain its own identity. I'm open to all
possibilities because I'm just I'm seeing I'm just seeing untapped potential. And I don't think
anyone is better positioned than face to jump to pounce on that potential. And we will all
be billionaires this time by 2025 if we do it properly. And then after we spend a couple,
maybe I don't know how long, how much time it's going to take for us to go through phase one.
But then, then my friends, then we enter into phase two. Are you ready for phase two? Are you
excited about phase two? Do you think you can handle phase two? I'm ready for it. I hope I can.
Okay. What have we, what have we been doing? What have we been doing all through phase one,
which is a useful phase. It's going to be a financially beneficial phase for us. I hope I can. Okay. What have we been doing? What have we been doing all through phase one, which is a useful phase.
It's going to be a financially beneficial phase
for us. We're all going to be
very happy that we went through it. What are we
going to do when we get to phase two?
I'll tell you what we're going to do. We're going to eliminate
damn near everything we did in phase one
because we're going to eliminate
the very pocket itself.
We don't need it. It's bullshit.
I've been,
I've lived with women
most of my life.
They hate their pockets
because they're tiny
and useless
and oftentimes sewed together.
It's not fair
that men have big pockets
and women have small pockets.
And also,
the fucking,
I will go so far as to say
I've been thinking about this a lot.
The back pocket
is a goddamn atrocity.
We need to get rid of it
because that thing
is a menace.
Think about this,
men, what do you put in your back pocket? You put your
wallet in your back pocket. What's in your wallet?
Everything you own
that you can't possibly leave home
without. And where do you put it? On
the one spot of your body that you don't have
eyes on? You got no coverage on?
You can't see back there? That's the
dumbest thing ever. It's like, here's everything that's
important and valuable to me.
I'm going to stick it on my ass
and show everybody but me.
I hate it.
We need to get rid of pockets.
And by doing that,
what we will do is
we will migrate the very pocket
to the wrist.
Think of a big floppy pocket
just hanging from your wrist.
Throw your keys in there.
You can see your keys.
Throw your wallet in there.
You got eyes on it at all times.
It's in front of you.
It's a lot harder to pick a hand than it is to pick a butt. You've invented your keys. Throw your wallet in there. You got eyes on it at all times. It's in front of you. It's a lot harder to pick a hand
than it is to pick a butt.
You've invented the purse without a strap.
I have invented the wrist pocket.
The purse exists. The wristlet exists.
All of these things exist.
Don't...
Eliminate the word invent from your
brain right now. We're not talking about inventing.
I'm imagining like...
We're talking about revolutionizing. We're talking about revolutionizing.
We're talking about popularizing.
We're talking
about taking things
that may exist already, but making
them better and more prevalent so
that the larger world
sees them through the eyes, through the lens
with the possibility that we do
so that we then
incent them to want these products
to improve their lives.
And then, it's not a product at that point.
It's a whole goddamn movement.
We're changing the world.
We're going to get rid of pockets
in phase two.
Phase one, we're going to improve wrists.
Phase two, we're getting rid of pockets.
And phase three,
we're all buying boats
and fucking high-fiving off super yachts.
I love it.
I'm a big fan of this. I will have kind of of an idea in my mind already i think i'll have a prototype next
time we record i'm imagining an idea i love a horse feedback for my hand yeah maybe if that's
what it could look like yeah i am all about the convenience and hands-free of things like i it's
a it's a big one of my great struggles,
maybe the uniform could maybe branch onto this.
I really wish that goggles
were a popularized form of glasses.
I cannot stand,
I have the worst long-distance vision.
I have glasses, never wear them,
don't like the feel of it on my nose.
They're always sliding down,
always uncomfortable.
I wish I could live in a world
where I could just strap some goggles on and I'm good to go if it if goggles were popular
my vision would be substantially better a day-to-day life your nose indestructible but
can't hold up a pair of glasses it cannot it's too i'm telling you it's too slippery it bobs
and weaves it not even glasses can stay on it just put some grip on the glasses, like grip tape.
Then he looks like a 1950s shop teacher.
At that point, I'm just putting on goggles.
Also, you know what?
You know what, Andrew?
It's 2021.
We are living in the fucking future.
What's more futuristic than goggles?
I'm not even talking like cool, futuristic,
like whenever you see a basketball player with goggles,
I'm always like, I wish that was a look that was just acceptable. I wish that was a
popularized form of it.
Or even like the pool. When you put pool
goggles on, I wish those for glasses
existed. I wish that was just a thing.
They're always sliding, so I don't wear
them. Yeah, but you can't have this bad peripheral
vision. There's a reason it's just
right in front on glasses.
I will take a hit
on my peripheral vision in exchange
for them not sliding and not having
to ever think about them. They're just locked
in. But also,
once again, goggles exist
but goggles with perfect peripheral
vision might not exist, but they could.
Maybe that's been holding everyone
back and maybe if we can solve that problem
then not only can Andrew enjoy these goggles
but everybody can. Maybe every kid in high school will be wearing face goggles this time 2025. I don't know, but I love it. I love the way it's going. So you could just magnet glasses onto the front
of your face. I love that idea.
I like the idea. I don't want
them to put anything near my eyes.
I don't want any, like, just
scary. It's a scary place. Just under the eyebrows.
Nah, no, I don't want any
machinery going in there. I don't want, I don't
trust it. Not machinery, just like a thin magnet.
Yeah, but they're gonna have to do a surgical procedure.
Oh. Oh oh what was that
I ran out of liquid
I'm good
I'm good he got scared of the magnets
I was talking
and my mouth just suddenly went very dry i'm good so there you go guys uh i
don't have a new product for us but i have a vision of where i feel like you just said like
seven different products i think you were plenty of products yeah but i mean i don't have like i
don't know i i gave i gave jumping off points right but i don't have materials prepared for
you guys i don't have logos and commercials.
Not like I usually come, you know,
like with a product ready for you to buy.
I just have more of an idea of where we could take this.
I feel like the last place I want more clutter is around my hands area.
Yeah, that's what people said before World War I.
I'm excited.
I have a prototype in mind.
I don't know if you have any ideas, Gavin,
but I immediately just have a thought.
I could certainly come up with something
for the next episode.
I would love to have my phone
permanently on the side of my wrist,
kind of like where quarterbacks put their plays,
you know, where they pop it up
and they look at their plays
and they shut the thing.
I would love to have my phone there
and I could just like,
it would be so cool.
I,
yeah,
I like,
I like where your head is at.
I honestly,
this is more grounded than I was anticipating.
I can see a world where this exists.
I spent a lot of time in a hotel room on my back with nothing to do,
but browse the internet for fake products.
So I think it'll be interesting to see what we value for our pockets.
What things do we want brought to the front?
I guess it's all of it, right?
Is what you're saying?
Because phase two is the destruction of pockets.
So really, we can't have anything in there.
Well, not to destroy them,
but to render them useless to the degree that
you can use that pocket if you need to.
But everybody else is going to be using wrist pockets at this point.
So you'll be,
you'll be,
you won't be in vogue anymore.
You know,
wrist pockets.
Have you ever been outside sweating in the heat and you have to then go
somewhere that requires a mask and you realize your mask has been in your
back pocket and you've been sat sweating on it for the last two hours?
No,
because I usually hang
my mask around my wrist oh so you're already you're already putting your i already wrist my
mask without it and i didn't even think about it till this till you said that but that's exactly
how i i'm already doing this in practice holy shit are you really wristing your masks already
i always risk my mask i've been doing it for you since day one i can't okay you're
jeff is a wrist guy is what i've learned yeah i i hate the feeling of that i can't
get get shit off my arms yeah i don't know man i but i started wearing watches and it really
it's really and then it's really opened up my love of wrist stuff and i think that there's a
lot of i think a lot of people feel the same. Well, I feel like let's let's just explore because I agree with you.
I have no issue with the wrist.
Where would you like it to be, Gavin?
Like what is is there a different part of the body that would be more ideal than the
wrist to hold a mosque to hold whatever?
It just seemed like you didn't like things around your wrist.
Generally speaking, as how I interpreted that comment, where would where would the ideal
place be?
If not the wrist wrist maybe my back
you just are we just making a backpack at this point like what type of imagine imagine a backpack
except it's in the shirt it's like a big a big old pocket a big pocket on the back of a t-shirt
that i could just like stick an ipad in or something yeah i like this i feel like that's
very specific because what you're going to sit down,
it's going to stab you immediately,
whatever you got back there.
It'd be kind of like how Snake Eyes
and Storm Shadow have their swords
crossed on the back,
but instead it's like a laptop and an iPad.
Or like a pocket that could fit
a water bottle in it or something.
Just something where it's like,
I don't want to take the bag with me,
but if I just have my water bottle
and I just sort of slot it into my back like a sword,
like I'm sheathing a sword behind my back,
I pull it out when I get to work.
Class.
I mean, I think this is exactly where we need to be.
Thinking like this.
Take a step back and think of it this way.
Why are pockets where they are?
Because the first person who put a pocket put it there.
And then we all went,
oh, okay, I guess that's where pockets go. And then you put a pocket there because first person who put a pocket put it there and then we all went oh okay i guess that's where pockets go and then you put a pocket there because the
last guy put a pocket there and the person before that put a pocket there and so for hundreds of
years we've all had pockets where they are because we're just we're just fucking sheep we're just
sheeping our way through pocket town right no i feel like people have adventured with the pocket
there's sleeve pockets there's chest pockets i feel like people don't use them. People don't use them because they haven't cracked the code yet.
People didn't use wristwatches till the need and the benefit was shown to them.
And then they became a symbol of masculinity.
They became a symbol of patriotism.
And then everybody wanted to wear them.
That's all we need to do.
We need to find our World War I pocket watch.
That's all we got to do.
I really like the idea of more pockets.
I know we're supposed to get rid of them, but if somebody had like a clown's car worth
of items and hidden pockets, that's just a great, that's hilarious.
I guess I don't, I guess I don't want to eliminate the pocket.
I just want to eliminate its, its, its intransigence in where it lives.
I want to, I want to liberate the pocket.
You know what I mean?
I see.
I want the pocket to move for you.
I don't want you to put your shit in a pocket
that is put there because of hundreds of years
of people following in line
and not thinking outside the box,
not looking up, just looking at their feet
and shuffling forward through fashion,
not even daring to look left or right and innovate.
I want us to innovate. I want the pocket to go where you want the pocket to go.
It's like I said a long time ago, you're talking about the mindset of always punting on fourth
down. People do it because that's what people do, not because it necessarily makes sense.
You want your questioning. Not because it makes sense.
Yeah. A culture change of not always going for the pocket. Yeah.
And and that's that's where bold people make bold decisions and find bold successes.
Is the product called bold?
Like I said, I felt very specific.
Like what?
I'm just no, I don't know.
I'm just saying like that's how I think this is.
This could be a huge untapped potential future for face a division of a division of Fluke Face, a division of Uniform.
Uniform. Combining the power of one with the
fabric of the farm. Uniform. You know what I'm saying.
So, I just, I think we would
be remiss. I think we'd be
a tremendous wasted
opportunity. Also, to cement
F*** Face in the social,
the permanent social
fabric of the world. we're already going to
reinvent the high five right what better way to follow it up than to reinvent the pocket and the
wrist it's the very wrist itself i like it i'm gonna have a prototype or at least i'll try to
next time we record i have an idea i'll have one too but we might not get to it because of
the chocolate andrew's to eat. Oh no.
That's going to be easy. I'm going to be on my victory line. Well, I guess, fuck, when is
what day is next Wednesday?
27th?
Or no, I guess Thursday. We'll record next
week, right? We'll record Thursday.
So that'll be one day before
I out nugget the nuts.
So the chocolate could lead in. Also
banana, there's a lot of food stuff.
It's basically two days.
There's a lot of food stuff
lined up that we didn't see
coming an hour and a half ago.
Absolutely not.
We're a food podcast.
According to Eric.
Are you okay with us
being a food podcast, Eric?
As opposed to baseball?
I feel like you kind of
didn't like the idea
of us being a baseball podcast.
It didn't feel like
we ever embraced fully the baseball podcast because Jeff wouldn't throw the ball. So now i feel like you kind of didn't like the idea of us being a baseball podcast i didn't feel like we ever embraced fully the baseball podcast because jeff wouldn't throw
the ball so now i feel like i feel like you're embracing the food embracing nuggets embracing
chocolate being anti-banana but pro apple weirdly i i mean i i'm fine with being i only produce food
podcasts at this point so yeah that's fine okay hey eric make sure can i ask you a question while
you're here yeah yeah what's up what's in your what uh do you have anything in your pockets
right now uh no i just put on shorts and i don't have anything in my pockets while i'm sitting at
my desk if you were going to leave the house what do you think you would throw in your pockets to
leave uh i would grab my keys my phone my wallet my mask uh maybe a chapstick and put it in the little chapstick part of my you know
like there's like a little tiny yeah yeah oh where the ipod nano goes yeah that's where the ipod nano
goes but until i charge that and get it working from 2007 i will just put a chapstick there
instead um those are kind of all of my go-to's i suppose for um what what i would need
for my pockets okay that's very helpful thank you i uh yeah i i i can see i can see a world where all
of those things live on a wrist easily i mean great i i i'm i'm all for what you're talking
about here with the wrist pack and everything i know a lot of professional wrestlers who wear unironically
wear fanny packs everywhere all the time constantly and swear by them swear up and dead just like i
didn't think they would be that helpful and i'd never leave without my fanny pack they don't have
anything in their pockets everything is in the fanny pack i've never tried one so this is doable
not i'm not a fan of the fanny pack but
i'm i am a fan of the idea of like i realize there's some there's some adjacency to what
we're doing here so and that's and that's why i believe in uniform thank you for believing in
uniform uniform combining the power of one with the fabric of the form uniform uh okay well that's
great uh i i i think there's a lot of i think keys alone there's a lot of, I think keys alone,
there's a lot of opportunity.
I can't wait for the magnet approach of this
and it being too powerful
and your wrists getting stuck together.
That is what I'm very excited about.
That's the initial prototype.
I was making a note,
I'm just making notes
of what prototype I want to make
and I just found an old,
I found a picture,
I think I shared this to Jeff.
Andrew, what do you think is happening
in this picture
oh I'm excited
oh Jesus Christ
okay
this is
it's like the
worst Spike Jonze video
or like Michelle Goddard
we're in somebody's mouth
is that Jeff I think this is Jeff I would
have assumed Jeff's mouth no but what it looks like I'm in the photo it does but it's so
right now I just assumed it's not the back the people in the background, Jeff, is not what you immediately notice when looking at this photo.
This, Andrew, is a nice... This might be the only one in existence.
A nice picture of Jeff and myself taken from inside minor league fan Jack's mouth.
Oh, that's horrendous.
Why?
We'll have to ask him if he's okay.
But I don't think I've ever seen a picture of people
from inside someone's mouth before
yeah it's like it's like
tongue POV it's like yeah it's about to say
on Jack's tongue
what he's talking this is
this could be the new Instagram
craze inside
the mouth portraits I love this
I would love to see more of these it was basically
we're in australia having lunch i think and i had my 360 camera out and jack just walked up
he arrived late because we we left without him so we had to get a separate uber and then he just
walked up while i had that and he just put my camera in his mouth for like one second but
because it's 360 i then like went into the file and it was
originally pointed at the back of his throat but I just
spun it around and you can
see out of his mouth
it's so disgusting
it looks so wet in there it looks like that
like uh Cortana level in Halo
it looks dirty
how many how many bites
does it take for that mouth to eat a nugget
is what I want to know we need to do measurements i think it's more like how many nuggets can that bite
eaten one could that mouth eaten one bite it looks not safe for work no it looks like alien
there's like a very alien vibe to this you never see behind someone's teeth and lips
no very rarely outside of video games like i feel like that's always the classic
like oh i've morphed into a character let me like see through their face i just like oh there's a
picture of two-thirds of this podcast from inside jack's mouth i don't think you could identify
somebody from the inside of their mouths i don't like without contact do you think a dentist could
i bet a dentist could i think a dentist probably could but i don't want without context do you think a dentist could i bet a dentist could i think a
dentist probably could but i don't want to know that about somebody i don't want to ever be at
a level with someone be like oh imagine if i fucking knew that was jack's mouth that would
a crazy pull that would have been imagine if i would be like yeah it looks like jack's mouth
i'd recognize that fourth tooth from the left anywhere eric's not a fan of the lips there's
something about seeing the teeth in like the top of like
the roof of the mouth that's like oh that's gross for some reason seeing the lips over the teeth
but they're the inside of the lips is so like it really i put in the chat this it looks like a
cronenberg film it looks like long live the new flesh, like disgusting the fly level shit.
I don't like this.
Like I keep looking at it
because I can't look away.
I want to see a zombie movie
entirely from this perspective
of just like one zombie,
just like the worst.
Be terrible.
I think that's a great comp, Eric.
It definitely feels very like Videodrome-esque.
I think maybe if we ever all together at RTX,
and we do a panel,
we should take a picture of the entire cast of
F*** Face from inside Jack's mouth.
Oh, that's a great idea.
I'm okay with that.
Why? What were you thinking?
I don't think we need more mouths out there.
If anything, I feel like this photo should be deleted.
It's disturbing.
I don't want this to be a trend.
Just like the idea of Jack's mouth being a camera.
The weirdest angle for the Truman Show.
It's the mouth camera guy.
Maybe that's the next direction we'll move into,
is taking stuff out of our pockets, moving into our wrist,
then eliminating
the wrist altogether and creating mouth mouth products i thought you're gonna say move everything
from the pockets to the mouth i was like no we should not do that i just stole my keys jack's
mouth oh the smashing sportsman i love it he's our guy he's our guy i can't think of another superhero
who more uh deftly uh uh exemplifies the face brand than the smashing than the uh
the uh arthritis ridden smashing sportsman
it's perfect he fits us and nobody gives a shit about him it's fantastic like nobody i love it
i'm excited for the world to learn about the smashing sports what do you think he's worth
i don't know i think if we if we showed that photo of jack's mouth they would just give it
away like if we used it as a threat it's a terrifying image
and i gotta say one thing i liked about this episode really light on the fruit talk
very light on the fruit we could even i know we're talking about this before smashing sportsman bats
potentially that could be a bat thing in the future.
We sell bats.
A lot of opportunities.
There's a lot of opportunities there.
I think two pretty good episodes there.
Yeah, two really good.
I'm excited for next week.
I'm so excited for next week.
I was afraid we wouldn't be able to cram all this
into two episodes.
Not only did we, we crammed like banana content, we crammed chocolate
content. There was a lot of directions we went, but I
didn't even expect. We talked about
Dusty Baker for like 16 minutes,
which is not what I anticipated.
But worth it. Yeah, but
what a mindfuck to find
out that the high five, the
high fucking five was invented in 1977.
What a load of shite.
I don't believe it for a second.
What a load of bollocks.
Well, Gavin, I can tell you,
as someone who lived in the before times,
it was dark.
We didn't know how to...
There was a lot of patting on the back.
It didn't feel quite right.
Things were a little bit more homophobic back then,
so we didn't pat each other on the butt. We didn't feel quite right. Things were a little bit more homophobic back then, so we didn't pat each other on the butt.
We didn't celebrate properly. We just
didn't. And I remember the
great day when
everything changed.
I can see how the only living in a
world full of high fives, it would be hard
for you to comprehend a world without.
But it...
I was there. It was dark.
And you should hope that we never get plunged
back into that darkness again thank you for listening to another episode of face i believe
this was the 75th iteration of this podcast and probably the 65th to mention some sort of a food
related challenge uh if you liked it uh tell somebody about it because that's how we survive.
And if you don't tell somebody about it, one of us will die.
Thanks for listening.