Regulation Podcast - Ultimate Playlist of 98

Episode Date: September 9, 2023

To put a wrap on the Summer of 98, Geoff, Gavin, Andrew, Producer Eric, and Nick get together to make the Ultimate Playlist for 1998. In a round robin selection, the crew builds a list of their favorite songs of 98 to put together one playlist. It's back to back jams as we take your summer out with a bang. You can listen to the Ultimate Playlist of 98 on Spotify here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2n5nxHO2auQPS6nvabXww1?si=d9ac386d7842482e Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello and welcome to the music of the summer of 98. This was originally going to be exactly like the movies in 98, but it is really fucking tough to like define when music happened. Also someone who was like three and for the majority of 98 like i have no personal point of reference i originally used the top 100 and like what charted there as my reference point but instead instead of this being like a debate or ranking we are going to build a playlist as a collective of all of the music from 98 that we love. And it will be your summer of 98 playlist that you can enjoy reflective of your summer.

I'm joined, as always, by Jeff, Eric and Gavin and Nick. And I am excited to hear your musical choices because I I love music, but it is a massive blind spot for me. I've not nearly invested as much time into music as i have like movies or video games dude this is where like all the i'm the opposite uh i have invested way more time and effort and love into music than any other entertainment medium in my life and so i feel like i know infinitely more about it than movies or video games and i'm so jazzed i created a my own separate list to pull from because i was listening to a very specific kind of music in the time and i'm largely ignorant to

what was going on the popular culture at the time i just can't wait to get going oh that's awesome i am so excited to hear your music i really like what we're doing with this one i was worried that after we got done with like the debate and sort of ranking of like top 10 i'm like i just can't imagine that my music and gavin's music is ever going to like you know really like meet in the middle yeah um it it's so 98 was a time when i i mean i turned 12 and it was when i was really like finding music, listening to the radio a lot and then getting past stuff on the radio a lot and finding stuff that was like, oh, whoa, I like this. I'm going to listen to that. And it was becoming sentient, you know, like through music, which was very exciting. Yeah, I feel like for me, it was I was right before that stage.

Like I was still, I didn't have access to my own music yet or I couldn't change the radio yet. So I was just, it was whatever my parents listened to in 98 still. Sure, yeah. And I really liked the idea of us not having to like go crazy here

and make something that's like, okay, we gotta like rank these. But we're just making a list of songs that we feel like should be on a playlist. Well, and and it's also it's hard to argue a bunch of songs that none of us have ever heard totally or against you know so this is like the ultimate summer of 98 playlist which is not to say this is music that just came out in the summer of 98 but more like music for your summer of 98 right which i'm very into so we're trying to kind of stay within like that 98 range i think and that that's just kind of where we're at with this stuff i think do you want to kind of go one by one and everyone like picks a song in order and talks about

why they want to pick that song yeah i think that's a great idea i think maybe like when you're out of songs just say like i'm done adding to the list and then it'll just keep cycling until everyone has filled what they want okay i can i can make a list uh i can kind of like jot these down as we go and uh i'll share it with you guys if you want to keep an eye on it or whatever and yeah you can also sort of edit as we move or whatever but this will be a a playlist that i think we'll put together and share out with everyone uh when this comes out so you can sort of shuffle it and listen to it for your ultimate summer 98 playlist i'm looking at this document of some of the songs here i can't believe some of these are from the summer of 98 like i would

have put money on these being from so much earlier yep so that's like ace of bass cool summer that's the one that gets me every single time i thought that was in the 80s me too landslide by fleetwood mac gets me because that's from like 1977. Yeah. Is it re-released? No, no, no. Like, Ace of Base was a 90s band and like... When was All That She Wants? That was probably 96. What?

You don't think so? All That She Wants, 1992. Oh my God. I thought that was 80s shit. No, no, no, no, no. They no no no no no no weren't they a uh a euro what's the fucking euro trap what's it what's the thing eurovision eurovision aren't they a eurovision band i don't know are they that would be so weird because they were pinned as the next abba and abba was a eurovision band right ace of bass Swedish pop group formed in 1990 Jesus that's blowing my penis out yeah does not I don't think that they're Euro

anyway hey what order do we want to go in do we want to do an egg uh yeah let's do it yeah so what that means I'm first. That's your first, Andrew. Yeah. Okay. Um, I'm going to go. This is like very basic for its time. It's on the top 100 list that charted. I'm going to go stop by the Spice Girls.

I fucking love the Spice Girls as a kid. It's such fun music. The movie was great. Uh, we might be on a future list depending on the content we do i just i think there's such a fun pop group and uh they were they were a very major part of my childhood as far as like music listening guess did you think stop was a good song in itself i think stop is a great song i think it's one of their top songs thank you very much i totally agree with you andrew i feel like this was right at the end of girl power and sure spice girl stuff and everything but i think this is probably their i think this is

probably their best song it's up there for sure yeah i definitely top two i'd say yeah and that is my first selection okay nick you know gavin was talking earlier about how he was kind of at the mercy of his folks still. And that's kind of where I was at. I was about 10 in 98. And so I didn't quite have my own feel for music yet. And, you know, sometimes you just get those earworms that would never go away. And I think Tub Thumping by Chumbawamba really is one of those songs that even now, when you still hear it,

you're like, you'll find yourself. It's one of those songs too, that if you don't know it well enough, you end up in a chorus loop. Like, yeah, if you don't get into Danny boy,

then you're just stuck. But I always remember pissing the night away. Are you familiar with that band at all, Nick? No, not even a little. Do you know anything about Chumbawamba? Not even a little. Interesting history of that band. They're like an anarchist punk band.

What? Yeah, they came from a band called Conflict. It was members from a band called Conflict. And yeah. They took a turn called Conflict. It was members from a band called Conflict. And yeah. They took a turn. That seems crazy. Yeah, it was a weird deal. I think they were setting out to create a pop.

I think they were just... Do you know why they did it? I remember there's a reason. They were either trying to get rich or they were trying to be clever or something. I'm sure it was both. Yeah. You got to have something to fund your like your marxism i

suppose yeah um here's a pop lights on yeah yeah i mean so there's there's that um okay i think that's a great one my pick is this is not necessarily the type of music that i was listening to a lot of in 1998 but i think this is probably one of my favorite songs now and it's uh nobody does it better by nate dog r.i.p oh it's so good peace i think nate dog was underrated in everything that he did. Rest in peace. Nate Dogg fucking rules. I love that song. I think that absolutely like belongs on this playlist. Love it.

100%. Yeah. It's so good. I bought the entire it's not a I don't think a 98 song. I bought the entire the Transporter movie soundtrack

because of a Nateate dog song it was fantastic oh yeah yeah i don't remember what the song title is like i got game because the game was given to me down for whatever i don't remember fantastic yeah uh i like nate dog because uh his logo also is like this like rabbit that wears a hat and is like g'd out i love i love i love the g funk rabbit thank you nate dog uh Now, are we doing Jeff or are we doing Gavin? How does an egg go? I don't remember. Yeah, I don't know which G I am in the egg.

I think it goes Jeff Gavin. I think it goes Jeff Gavin. Sounds good. I guess I'm up then. Okay, so the first song I'm picking, Eric, I guess you're writing these down or something. I am. I'm keeping a copy of them right here

in the link i'm sending just so you know i sent a link to my punk summer of 98 playlist that i created there uh so you can find the songs there there's gonna be we won't get to all those songs obviously okay um the first song i'm gonna pick is from uh one of my favorite bands of all time uh this is back summer of 1998 i was 22 23 years. This is when I was as obnoxiously into punk as humanly possible. From about 15 until maybe 28 or 29, I was militant and annoying about it, and I ignored all other forms of music to my own detriment, I have learned later in life. I really wish that I hadn't been such a little prick about it all.

I have learned later in life. I really wish that I hadn't been such a little prick about it all. But luckily, 1998 was one of the best years of punk music in my lifetime. So the first song I'm picking is Five Lessons Learned by the Swingin' Utters. Nice. From their album, Five Lessons Learned.

It is a fucking banger from start to finish. Might be the best song that you'll hear on this whole playlist. And interesting thing about Swingin' Utters, the band, they're from California, they're from San Francisco. from start to finish might be the best song that you'll hear on this whole playlist and uh interesting thing about swinging utters uh they the band they're from california they're from san francisco the band used to be called johnny p bucks and the swinging utters but they truncated that name uh because swinging utters is cooler and the reason they came up with that name is because the lead singer johnny bennell who i interviewed one time for one of my punk scenes

uh one night in san francisco when they were hanging out after a show, before they were in the band, he got really drunk and pissed himself. And then they went to Taco Bell. And when he pulled his money out, his money was covered in his piss. And he had to pay for the Taco Bell with piss-covered money. So they gave him the nickname Johnny P-Bucks. And then they started the band. There you go.

Five Lessons Learned by The Swingin' Hunters. Fantastic song. Entire album is a banger, but that's the best song on it. That's good. I like that. Gavin? For me, Summer of 98 was ruled by Fatboy Slim.

It was probably my first introduction to music that had samples of other people's music. I assume very late to that. So Rockefeller Skank fat boy slim uh what i think that's a good pick yeah it's a great pick very 98 right about now yeah so my relationship with rockefeller skank is it was one of the like title tracks to a FIFA game I had on the PS1 and it was my favorite song on that game. And as part of this exercise, like listening to the top 100 listed songs, it's on there. I listen to it. I've had the lyrics wrong my entire life, my entire life.

I thought the lyrics were right about now. The funk so rubber. I thought the lyrics were right about now, the funk so rubber. And that has been what I thought up until like two weeks ago when I re-listened to this and learned it's funk soul brother. Funk soul brother. The funk so rubber. I thought it was the funk so rubber right about now. If you've ever listened to the original sample of that, it's just like some guy introing

his track. I don't know how he ever found that and thought that would make a great sample it's so obscure it might be one of his most obscure samples of all time that's awesome it's a good one i like it um come back around andrew i'm going for another this is i have no other points of reference for this person's music um but as part of the discovery of this process i listened to paper by queen latifah for the first time oh and that song is a fucking banger that's a great song it's essentially a do-over of heard it through the grapevine like it takes

all of it but there's some lyrical changes to it just a fucking banger of a song like really liked it really enjoyed it charted in the summeranger of a song. Like really liked it. Really enjoyed it. Charted in the summer of 98. Not that that's important, but it made me want to explore Queen Latifah's music, which is something that I have never had any interest in checking out. Just not on my radar. I wonder if she's underrated as a musician. Yeah, I don't know if I'm just out of the scene.

I feel like she's not rated at all at this point, but like I'm pretty disconnected. So, yeah, I was really impressed by that song and I enjoyed it way more than I assumed I would going into it. OK, I like it. Nick. So this is a song that I feel like was everywhere. And again, you know, you could just flip through the radio and find it on whatever pop station or whatever it was playing on. And it's also been featured in a lot of car ads over the years. So anytime it pops back up, it's going to be on your mind again.

And, you know, it's also one of those memefied songs. So, it's been one week by Barenaked Ladies. From our dear friends, the Barenaked Ladies. That's very funny. Chickadee China. That's a good one though that's a that's a very good that's a very good pick because man again inescapable right even to this day that song just makes you stand up like if i'm lounging around i hear that i'm just like oh here we go yep yeah Yep. I'm just getting up to be a part of that. I love it.

Man, that is a song in a band that's very near and dear to Rooster Teeth and their history. That's a great choice. Captain Dynamic. Captain Dynamic. Yeah, Captain Flowers. Yeah, Captain Flowers. The only dude I know who's crashed a plane and walked away from it. That's awesome he once he once sung my name into one of his songs and it's still

probably the coolest thing that's ever happened to me in my life oh absolutely let's see so i go next um really different from my first pick but this was very instrumental in what music I would listen to for the next 10 years, whatever. San Francisco by Alkaline Trio. Alkaline Trio, a punk band that had an album in 1998 called God Damn It that I listened to endlessly. I mean, just, if you could wear a hole in a CD,

it would be this. It was half an hour long. The album is half an hour long and it would end and I would just go play it again. Eric? Doesn't matter. Eric, I have three songs

from that album on my playlist. Really? Yeah, I did. What songs did you pick? I threw Cringe, Clavicle, and my personal favorite, Where Did It Go? Sorry about that. The last song on the album. Great.

All great songs. I wanted something that would fit in a playlist that was a little more up, so I think San Francisco really fits. Clavicle, I think think is one of my favorite songs by that band uh if you don't know alkaline trio and you're like older now you probably don't need to go back and listen to it i think you're gonna i think you're gonna be like oh this sounds like a little bit dated and it it does but just know that when blink182 needed someone to fill in and they went with Matt Skiba, it is like all of my worlds colliding in one band.

And it was, if I could have been 12 and seeing that, I would have lost my fucking mind. It was pretty insane. It was pretty magic. Matt Skiba is such a phenomenal singer. Such an interesting dude. Him and Dan Adriano, the other guy that sings in Alkaline Trio as well. Great, great stuff. I really, Al i really alkaline trio god damn it's still one that uh i i hold very near and dear so that's my pick uh okay so that's eric is it my turn now yeah yeah now it's all right i i have a bunch of alkaline trio that stuff i want to add to that but i'll just wait till i pull them up

got it um the next song i'm gonna go with uh is it's up there for the second best song on my playlist here. It's every time it's one of the songs that every time you hear it, you start dancing and you start moving no matter no matter where you are. It's a song by a band, a hardcore band out of Virginia called A Veil, who is a very, very, very beloved and respected band. And this was their biggest album to date. It was their most melodic album to date. And it's called Over the James. And the song they released was called Deepwood.

And if you listen to it, it'll be stuck in your head for the rest of your fucking life. It is a phenomenal ass kicking song. And one of the things that I always liked, I thought that was interesting about A Vale, because I'm going to give you a little factoid about each band or whatever, as long as I have one. They're from Virginia. I was from Alabama. I grew up hating being from Alabama, hating being an Alabamian. You know that. I make fun of it all the time. I hate it. I got out of

there as soon as I could. And I was always bummed about that. I looked at other people that were proud of where they were from. And I always kind of hated being from the South. I joined the Army being from the South, and the Army was not a cool thing. I got shit on a lot for it, especially in the 90s. So I really tried my best early on to try to eschew the Southern part out of me. Then I discovered Avail, and they are so militantly proud of being from Virginia

and being from the South that it made me look at Alabama in a totally different way. And I thought if they can be proud of Virginia and be proud of where they're from, I can find stuff about Alabama that I like that I can be proud of, too. It's okay to be some dumb redneck from the South. And so I tried. It turns out there's nothing there. I couldn't find anything. But I appreciate that they're happy about being from virginia i i really they they they emboldened me to find that in alabama and

it just wasn't there uh but i tried great pick i think very cool like jeff if this is for no one else you're really you're scratching an itch for me uh thanks when you're when you're throwing this stuff out there yeah i really appreciate this information as somebody who doesn't like just a different era of music for me yeah sure definitely uh gavin uh this one isn't on this list but i remember it being all over the radio it is uh this called feel it which was based on can you feel it by jackson five it was that it was that song mixed with some other song um so it's just basically the the main melody of the jackson five song with the lyrics uh what's she gonna look like with a chimney on her and i always remember thinking like what does that mean it just it just repeats it firstly it just takes ages for the drop to happen and then

it just repeats what's she gonna look like with a chimney on her? So I looked up where that sample's from. Apparently, it's from another song where one of the lyrics is, want to drop a house on that bitch. So I guess they want to find out what some woman would look like with a chimney on her. This is the song with the bells. It's the bells, yeah. This is the song with the bells. It's the bells. Yeah. This is the song with the bells in it.

I looked it up and it's that it's done. Done. Done. Yeah. Done. Done. Done. Those bells that like,

oh man, I remember this. Yeah. Just endlessly looping. But I mean, those bells in the, the Jackson's song. Yeah.

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Benefits vary by card. Terms apply. Andrew, back to you. Going with a classic from one of my favorite groups, Intergalactic by the Beastie Boys. Nice. Great pick. Fantastic song. Whenever you hear it, it pumps me up. It's a great song. groups intergalactic by the Beastie Boys nice great pick yeah great like whenever you hear it like it just it pumps me up it's a great song the

video is awesome for it like there's so many great just Beastie Boy videos in general like what a classic group what a great song that's that's hello nasty is that that album no it's intergalactic I think it's on

No, is it Hello Nasty? I gotta look it up now. Yes, it is. Okay. Yes, it's on Hello Nasty. It's a big ass album. Do you know where they got the name Hello Nasty from? No. So they owned a, I don't know if they still do,

but they owned a clothing shop in New York City for a while in one of the boroughs. And it was back when people were really, really first starting to get into monetizing shit from Goodwill and thrifting and vintage was starting to come up in the young culture. And so they had a store and I think it was called Nasty or maybe that was the address.

But anyway, anytime the phone would ring, the girl behind the counter, she would answer, hello, Nasty. And they thought that was really funny. That's how they answered the phone. I had no idea.

And so they named the album that. That rules. If this is on the list, then like the song that I would pick from this album would be Body Movin'. I think Body Movin' is so good. Great song. Also, 3M Season 1 DJ.

Incredible. Both incredible songs that are on Hello Nasty also. But I think Intergalactic is definitely the strongest pick in the whole thing. Not Intergalactic specific, but just a thing for people to check out the beastie boys watch their live performance of check it out oh yeah on letterman so fucking cool it's like a one shot where they start from the new york subway and then walk to letterman and then oh no way

performance live that sounds awesome awesome yep if you if you can if you're also if you're looking that up you should look up the music video for three MCs and one DJ because the whole first, before the song starts at one minute and 40 seconds in or whatever, it is the Beastie Boys holding a pose downstairs and just a camera walking to get to them. And then the music video starts. It is a minute and a half of nothing it's fantastic it's so cool and then after you do that listen to the entire album paul's boutique it is the most overlooked beastie boys album because it was their follow-up to license to ill and it was before they came in before check your head which was another huge one it was kind of in a weird place but it is one of the most it is it it couldn't be made today because they sampled more music it was like a girl talk album yeah they sampled so much music in there before sampling

became an issue and so uh they literally couldn't make the songs today the licensing would be insane but it is a brilliant brilliant album from start to finish and it doesn't get as enough respect it's really good it's produced by the dust brothers yeah and it has so many samples and so many different songs and what a cool thing from a band that didn't want to be rappers but wanted to be a hardcore band yeah fucking uh uh shake your rump best beastie boy song ever wow that's such a great song it's such a great song. Such a great song. You listen to it now, it is just fun for every, just all the way through.

You can't stop smiling when you listen to it. It's very, very good. Great pick, Andrew. Nick. You know, this is another one of those songs that I feel like gets stuck in your head, but this is also one that, it sneaks past you when you're younger.

Like I said, I was about 10 when this came out. And I don't know even into my teenage years that I caught kind of the filthiness of the song. Semi-Charmed Life by Third Eyed Blind. Oh, yeah. In fact, I was talking to my wife the other day and she was like, did you know what that song's about? And I said no. And then she like read the lyrics to me. I was just reading through them.

One of them is like, doing crystal meth will lift you up until you break yeah and there's a whole line about like when she comes over and is going down on him it's like what that's in a pop song from when i was 10 and i loved it what's wrong with me um semi-charmed life great song great 90s pop song you are taking a pick away from me because i was i was absolutely going to go with um man there's so many choices on that album oh yeah burning man london motorcycle drive-by god of wine how's it gonna be the whole that's probably my fave one of my favorite 90s albums wow um it is probably i think probably one of the best produced albums in the 90s to get that performance out of that band that had such a volatile singer songwriter who like really couldn't get anything else well they had like another album

but like i think like one or two singles off of it to have the success that that album had that kind of production and that kind of maestro that it takes to get something like that out of that band is i think really unrecognized and if you can put that album on front to back but if you can find a physical copy of it because the copy that you get on itunes or spotify or whatever is a remixed version and not the original version that you would hear i hate it i it is are, there are changes to graduate that I don't like. There are changes to so many of the songs like losing a whole year sounds different and it's really a bummer. It's really, really, really a bummer.

Um, but good. Excellent pick. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent pick Nick. I love it. It was a good year, man. Yeah, it was great song.

Maybe, I don't know if it's the number one song about doing crystal meth, but it might be up there. It's up there. Draft idea. Yeah, my pick is Ghetto Superstar by Proz. Oh, so good. It is a, it's a great song maya has a great feature on it i think

pros is the weakest part of the song i think the best part of the song is odb and if you don't know the story behind the song this makes it even better odb is not supposed to be on that track. This is for the Bullworth soundtrack. It is on Praz's... This is Praz. He is putting this out. Praz is from the Fugees. This is his solo effort. He's doing the song with Maya.

ODB is supposed to be recording stuff for RZA in New York. But he happens to be in LA and walks into the studio. He hears the beat. He's fucked up. They don't know what he's on. He's drunk. He's something. He hears the beat and he likes it.

And they go, do you want to just be on this? So he just steps up and lays down his verse. It fucking rules. That song is a massive hit. And then ODB is everywhere. Everywhere in that time. I love Old Dirty Bastard so fucking much. He is the coolest. He has given us so many moments, but I need to share this with you if I can.

This is ODB. Let me share my screen. We won't be able to put this in the video, but I do want you guys to be able to see and hear this because this is on the end of them promoting this song, and this is from MTV 1998. Okay. Here it is.

That's so good. Wow. What are you going to do to give back to the community? Points to himself. Nothing. It is such a tragedy that that dude died. ODB is the greatest of all time and um to put it to put a bow on this uh pros was found guilty of 10 counts of criminal conspiracy in uh criminal conspiracy and campaign finance charges so um if if you ever want to go down the odb rabbit hole

he had some phenomenal howard Stern appearances over the years. Just absolutely classics. The dude changed his name from Old Dirty Bastard to Big Baby Jesus. And then after that, he changed his name to Dirt McGirt. And he had like 13 kids. He was truly one of a kind. Wu-Tang still tours. And Young Dirty Bastard, one of ODB's kids, fills in for him for all of a kind. Wu-Tang still tours, and Young Dirty Bastard,

one of ODB's kids, fills in for him for all of his parts, and I saw them live, and he's so fucking good. That's awesome. Young Dirty Bastard rules. Anyway, that's a very long-winded story. I'm sorry, but that's my pick.

I love ODB. Okay. That's a great pick, Eric. Thank you. I guess I am up next, so I'm going to continue on with this is we were speaking about Sweden earlier. This is another Swedish band. And this was a really important album in the world of punk rock and kind of a misunderstood

album. This is I'm going to pick. It's not the best song from the album, but it's the most popular song and it's the one you'll recognize. And it's a phenomenal song. I'm going to pick the song new noise by the band refused the thing about this album it came out in 1998 they were a hardcore band from sweden that was really popular uh they had some victory releases that were really good and they created this album called the shape of punk to come which is a pretty ballsy album title. They were basically throwing

down the gauntlet and saying, we are going to create the sound that punk will become going forward. And they released this album. This album, one of the best albums ever made. I truly believe that. When it came out, it got slammed by negative reviews and bad reviews for about the first three weeks it came out, the band broke up because of the reviews. Wow. They released what became... And by the way, about six months later, it became acknowledged that this is one of the best albums of all time. And it was the shape of Punk to Come.

If you listen to that album through the entirety, you're going to recognize so much of what punk and music and that kind of sound turned into. They were right. recognized so much of what punk and music and that kind of sound turned into, they were right. They really, with that one album, turned that scene on its head and reinvented punk rock. So nobody got it yet? They didn't. They got negative reviews for like three weeks. They were brutally depressed, right? Because it was so different from the work that they had done before. And they were really going out on a limb and it got panned. And so they broke up and that was it.

Then that album became one of the most popular albums of the era and of punk. And so 16 years later, they got back together and played a reunion show and they didn't realize how popular they were because they were so depressed and bummed out by it. So now they're back together, I think. I actually got to see them play at Fun Fun Fun Fest in, I think, 2016.

And it was one of the, maybe the best show I've ever seen. One of the best albums of all time. Phenomenal song, new noise, by The Refused. They made a bold statement when they said they were going to change punk rock, and they did. Unfortunately, it cost them their band. Was that who you went to see when I went and

watched Girl Talk? Yeah, it was one of the most difficult decisions I've had to make because Girl Talk was playing on one stage and Refused were playing on another stage and I was already planning to go to Sweden to see them locally in Sweden when I found out they were back together but then they played Austin and so I went

and uh Refused was better than Girl Talk but Girl Talk was very good too it was difficult to have to run back and forth between the two shows. The thing that I always thought about with the new noise music video is that that's it's the it's, you know, the shape of the punk to come and all that stuff. Every band ripped off this look. Yeah. Four years later.

It is absolutely crazy how this is just, that's what Thursday and Taking Back Sunday and every band just looked like the way that Refuse looked in 1998. It probably the most influential, one of the three or four most influential punk bands or albums of all time. I would put Op Ivy up there with that as well.

Would just like change the scene forever after that album came out. Gavin. In the summer of 98, a lot of my time was taken up by this thing. Yeah. I know where we're going. I know what you're doing. That's coming home,

baby. Three Lions, the 1998 version. Obviously, it was originally written for the Euros in 96, featuring different lyrics that they changed for the 98 version. I think one of the lyrics from the 96 version was 30 years of hurt because England haven't won the World Cup since 1966.

And then I think last year, comedians Frank Skinner and David Baddiel, who made the song with the lightning seeds, released a new 2022 version, which featured the lyrics 56 years of her. Which I thought was very funny. Oh, that is that's great. That's awesome. The male team still has not won since 1966. But that thing, that song was bumping through the houses in the summer of 98. the male team still has not won since 1966 but that thing that song was

bumping through the houses in the summer of 98 that's hilarious what a pick that's a great that's a very funny pick I like that 56 years um

Andrew yes this is such a weird follow-up to this because when i think of like music i listened to as a kid that lived within that space exclusively spice girls and the other artist that comes to mind is ricky martin running through the house listening to Ricky Martin I actually thought that this is what Gavin was going to pick because I'm going with the cup of life by Ricky Martin which was the theme to the France 98 World Cup it was the song for the World Cup of that year there's some real bangers for World Cup songs something I learned and like I was like wow every World Cup song I can think of is a banger so I was looking at the list they introduced mascot songs in like 2012 or whatever like 2012 2014 in that

era which I think is fucking hilarious to have a song dedicated to the mascot of that World Cup uh it was a pitbull song which is even better but more focused on my pick Ricky Martin to me is like such a staple of the 90s. His music was just so much fun to listen to running around the house. Great song and absolute banger. The Cup of Life. I love it. Awesome. I have a special place in my heart because Mega 64.

100th podcast and then really like subsequent every 100 podcasts. It would just be instead of an episode, they would just dance to Cup of Life and release that. I don't know why that's the funniest song, but it's the funniest song. That's very good. Nick. So before we started recording,

Jeff dropped a link in our Discord about highly empathic people who have a unique view of music and just like how they react to it and everything and so we were talking about how like we both i think we both kind of feel that jeff and i and um yeah this is the song that i feel like it was the first song that it really like i don't know i had like an emotional like almost response to it like i don't know like every time i hear it i still get like kind of the goosebumps, like almost a little bit sad or like, I don't know, kind of a weird nostalgia. Like the song, though, is as Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls. Yeah. And there's something I don't know, like it's a power ballad, but there are moments where it's like kind of sweet and slow.

And it's like, oh, you know, it just has that feel to it of just being really somber if that's the right way to put it but i don't know it just sticks with me and every time i hear it i'm like oh yeah i gotta turn this up that's a huge song too yeah yeah absolutely that was really that was a big i felt like it was everywhere inescapable right in that time uh still kind of is i feel like yeah i definitely feel like you hear that you could definitely hear that song a lot i feel like goo goo dolls have been around for a very very very long time like got popular in like the late 90s but we're like around in like the 80s yeah i think so too that album also that year uh also had a bunch of songs that were really sad, like Slide. They had a lot of songs on there. You're like, oh, this is some really messed up stuff.

Yeah. This is a good one. Good pick. Thank you. I am going in a different direction from my last picks. So far, I've chosen a lot of-hop and some punk stuff or whatever this song i feel like is a very it's weird that it came out when it did because it was recorded so long before but uh my pick is uh sweetest thing by you too uh it was recorded in 80 when did joshua tree come out 86 87 uh and then was released in like 98

uh yeah very weird right and uh bono wrote it as an apology to his wife and uh was he just sitting on it it is uh it is a song that uh was very weird that it never really came out and then released in 98 huge song and uh it to me marks the end i've had a lot of conversations with like shame uh at work about this time in music because this is right when alternative starts going away and like on the radio and you get instead this rise of adult contemporary and that's like one headlight by uh what uh what's jacob dylan's band the wallflowers and you get like sweetest thing and you get like Sweetest Thing and you get Sheryl Crow's stuff.

There's just like this turn in music and Sweetest Thing is a really big thing. It's like VH1 takes over. That's how this song is for me. But I think it's a great U2 song because it's, I mean, recorded during Joshua Tree sessions, which are probably some of their best stuff.

So big U2 fan. I think it's a great song all right that's an awesome pick fantastic uh i guess i'm up um the next band i'm gonna pick is a band that uh has a near has a very special place in my heart because i was lucky enough to be in new jersey living in new jersey in 97 98 when uh all all of this explosion of really good punk was happening. And so I got to go to a ton of shows up at the Knitting Factory and at the Coney Island High RIP in New York City. I got to see a ton of great shows in St. Mark's Place and in that scene. And one of the bands that played there all the time, who was really, really catching fire in

the moment and becoming everybody's favorite band, we had no idea how big they were going to get, was this band from Massachusetts called the Dropkick Murphys. And I was really, really fortunate enough to see them with their original singer, Mike McCulgan, before he left. He left after their first big album and was replaced by a guy named Al Barr, who is still the lead singer. He's very good. And if you watch the Dropkick Murphys now, that's what you're seeing. But the original Dropkick Murphys was a little less Irish and a little more street punk.

And so I'm picking a very popular song called Barroom Hero from their first big album with the original singer. It's an anthem. That band, man. Still going strong. Yeah, big time. Also, I'll say ken casey one of the members of the band is one of the coolest dudes on earth and he recently went viral because he gave an anti-maga speech at a concert that was one of the coolest fucking things i've ever seen that's great awesome yeah good pick i think that's a uh i think dropkick

murphy's have a lot to say and they've been having a lot to say for a long time. Yeah. Have they found their wooden leg yet? Are they still looking? I think they're still looking. They're on the search. Gavin? This is another thing that I could not escape.

It was playing everywhere. I'm not sure if it ever made it to the US. It was a song called Horny, apparently horny 98 the lyrics just went uh i'm horny horny horny horny and it did that over and over again to some trumpets i've never heard this fuck are you talking about uh literally inescapable. It was playing everywhere for some reason. I'm going to drop a YouTube link for us because we don't know what this is.

What the fuck? Tea featuring hot and juicy, horny 98, and it's just a guy in a bunny suit outside of a grocery store is the thumbnail. Yeah, skip to like 50 seconds for the chorus. Okay. What the fuck is going on? What the fuck is going on?

1998's worldwide smash hit is what it says. Yeah, I wonder if she ever got late yeah i think she was in heat so horny i'm horny insane horny horny like that it's called horny 98 oh man does she sing it 98 times oh she might um andrew um another one yeah no this is i'm gonna say this is my last pick because i've got a lot of other things but this is the last one i feel strongly about and uh maybe it's just like a bias for like the time i grew up in obviously like that's a very impactful thing for like how you perceive music

I view like the 90s and like the boy band era of music to be like the best junk food period of music and I say that lovingly in the sense of like these are manufactured songs designed in every way and have nothing like natural in them but they are so easy to listen to they're such an earworm they're so catchy um i am going with one the lights go out by five i have nothing really impactful to say about five as a group didn't really know a lot about them before starting this process but the chorus of that song has been stuck in my head since i listened to it it's such a just it i would say it's a banger and i just have such a love of this era of like pop music five like the british boy band five yes yes that is that is who he's talking about i had no idea that was an international band to be honest yeah uh it i will say it wasn't.

You kind of heard the song in the U.S. a little bit, but it was not. Wow. Yeah. Let's see. Billboard top 100. It was number peak position number 10. But I mean, in Canada, it also reached number 10. Why were you why do you have an affection for this?

Wow. Why do I have an affection for it? I just I I just yeah it's something I listened to as part of this process and it just got stuck in my head and like the next day I woke up and the first thing in my brain was when the lights go out and much like Gavin was saying I don't know any other part of that song so it's just a loop in my brain of this, that over and over and over again. That's wow. That's so crazy. So that is my last submission. I have other songs on this list.

Maybe at the end, I'd like to make an honorable mention of just like there's a song that made my list purely on some of the lyrics of it being ridiculous. But that is my last official submission. OK, I like it. Nick, you know, I'll make this my last official submission. Okay, I like it. Nick? You know, I'll make this my last official submission, too. You know, I've got a couple others that we can do, like, honorable mention on. But this is a song that actually I heard the other day.

Like, I was just flipping through the radio stations here in town, and I don't do that often anymore. We have podcasts and things to listen to. And I happened to just pop over, and I caught Inside inside out by eve six which came out in may of 1998 and it's just a song that gets stuck in your head right from the very beginning you know and it's also one of the songs where i didn't realize when it came out like i thought it came out much later because i spoke to my wife and she's like oh yeah that was from 98 i was like what get out of here oh yeah i like i had that c I remember, I don't know why I had that CD.

It's not like I really liked it that much, but, uh, definitely that was a big one. That was a really big one. Um, really fun. Uh, you know, alternative song. Yeah. Uh, I have other ones, but I, I, I'm going to go with these guys. I'm going to say this is going to be my last pick for this playlist. 1998 was definitely a lot of radio stuff for me.

And I think this was probably where I developed a love for music that my wife hates because she doesn't. hates because she doesn't i like really like singers with like a very like affected voice uh listen to like a lot of music like hot snakes and stuff like this where it's like very it's crunchy it's different like it just different vocals and everything uh my pick my last pick here is going to be uh never there by cake. And she can't stand this band because this guy talks things and it's not, it's just like, it's not,

it's hardly even music. I love Cake. Cake, I think is a great band. There are other songs that I like more on this album, but I think Never There is probably the biggest hit from the album that you could put on sort of anywhere and people would be like, oh yeah, it starts with like the phone like dial tone and him talking, singing.

And it's such, every time I hear it on the radio, it's such just like, oh, I love this. I fucking love this thing. But if you're going to listen to that album, I think Mexico is a better song, but I'm not going to put it on this playlist. I'm going to put Never There by Cake. I only have one Cake song, and it's the one from me, myself, and Irene. It's like whistling along to it, and then he sucks on the woman's tit for a little bit. What the fuck?

Are you... You don't see that movie? I don't remember that at all. Yeah. I feel like I remember that. And he has the little milk mustache. Yeah. Gavin went from horny 98

to sucking on a tit. I'll say this. Me, myself, and Irene is better than Something About Mary. Yeah, I agree with that it's a bet fairly yeah um okay so go to Jeff okay so these are last picks yeah sure okay sure

I had a bunch more obviously maybe I can do like a list some bands I didn't get to at the end but um because this is the last pick I'm gonna pick the band that I was gonna to pick last. I could have put them first. I probably should have because it's probably the most

important, sounds silly to say, but probably the most important album of my life for some personal reasons. In early 1998, when I was living in New Jersey, I was running... Rooster Teeth started for me a lot earlier than Rooster Teeth. I was running an online punk zine in the 90s. And I was pretty deep into it. I was doing lots of interviews with bands. I was doing lots of album reviews. I had like a staff of like stringers that would submit reviews. I was getting so many free records in. I was able to give them out to friends so they could do reviews. Like I had a little empire going. so many free records in. I was able to give them out to friends so they could do reviews. I had a little empire going. And I kept hearing about this local band from New Jersey that was getting a lot

of heat. And so I reached out to them. And I asked if I could interview them. And I went and I had coffee and interviewed them one night. And we hit it off. And the trumpet player, he said, Hey, why don't you come just sit in at our practice tomorrow? And I was like, Why would I do that? I don't play music. And he goes, Just come hang out with us. just sit in at our practice tomorrow? And I was like, why would I do that? I don't play music. And he goes, just come hang out with us. And so I did. And I went and I sat and I watched them play in a basement practice.

And then after the end, I was shooting the shit with them. And they came to me and they said, listen, man, we really like you. We felt like we clicked with you immediately. You seem like a really good dude. Would you like to be, this is out of left field, but would you like to be our roadie? And I said, absolutely. And from that moment on, I was the roadie of a band called Catch-22. I went on one national tour with them.

I was there when their lead singer left the band. I was a part of that whole thing. I got to be at ground floor when a truly phenomenal, talented band was becoming the thing that they would become and then also going through the pains of band member changes and stuff. They released an album called K's B Nights. I could pick any song off of K's B Nights

because they're all phenomenal, but I'm just going to pick at random 9mm and a three-piece suit by Catch-22. I still, to this day, love them dearly and still consider most of them to be really close friends and it's a truly awesome Scott Punk album even if you don't like Scott Punk

written by a bunch of 16 and 17 year old kids keep that in mind when you listen to this album that's crazy it's really nuts when you look at music and you realize it's just written by everyone that's like 23 and you're like wow they're like really influencing the world at 23 years old it's really nuts when you look at music and you realize it's just written by everyone that's like 23 and you're like wow they're like really influencing the world at 23 years old yeah it's nuts absolutely uh great pick i think that's i think there's a lot of uh i think you have a lot

of uh sentimental reasons for choosing that but i also think that great great great shoot like awesome choice yeah just a fantastic bunch of guys, fantastic album. And, you know, a bunch of side bands have spun off and they're all good. Speaking of awesome choice here, isn't one. It is Vindaloo by Fat Les, another football banger that I think was only topped by the Three Lions song. It's sort of like a military beat.

Some bloke walking down the street with lyrics such as, the Three Lions song. It's sort of like a military beat. Some bloke walking down the street with lyrics such as something like, could I interest you please in a slice of cheddar cheese? And then they just start singing vindaloo, vindaloo. And it's still sung at football games

to this very day. That sounds like a very Gavin song. You were very influenced by football music. Yeah. Like that was just like a big part of your life. Like, are you like a huge football fan? Not the biggest football fan in general,

but you're just so exposed to it when your family likes football and when everyone stops everything they're doing to watch England play in the World Cup. Very interesting. Very interesting. football and when everyone stops everything they're doing to watch england play in the world cup very interesting very interesting um these are this is a great playlist this is it's crazy it's all over the place but in a way where if you put these on random and they came up you would be like oh fuck yeah oh fuck yeah like i think you'd go back to back and be like oh these are pretty nuts um i honestly feel bad that some of my picks are ruining this playlist but this is honestly this is honestly the shit i was listening to no that's great this is great like because it you need stuff with different tempos in different like you need to be if everything's the same

i think for a playlist it starts getting really sort of like muddy and you don't hear the songs, but if three lions by lightning seeds comes on and then the next song is five lessons learned by swinging udders and then Iris by goo goo dolls plays. And then it's cup of life by Ricky Martin. You're going to hear every one of those songs. Oh, absolutely. You're going to hear every one of those songs. I think it's cup of life by ricky martin you're gonna hear every one of those songs oh absolutely you're gonna hear every one of those songs i think it's great i think me and me mom and me

dad and me gran we're off to waterloo me and me mom me dad and me gran and a bucket of vindaloo what i love so much about this and i think it shows in like some of the other like draft stuff we've done is we all grew up at different times in different places. And it's so reflect like this playlist is such a great capturing of like what was specifically important to us in the different time periods and cultures that we grew up in. I think it's awesome. I love this playlist.

I agree. Do we want it? So that's going to be a playlist that we put together for you guys and we'll we'll release that for everyone um but do anyone want to talk about some stuff that didn't quite make the list or stuff like honorable mentions jeff i'm sure you have 30 i'll i'll just name bands i'm just gonna go i had honorable mention i was gonna do okay fm doa by a band called dillager for i was gonna do Gotta Go by Agnostic Front. A fantastic song called History of a Boring Town by Less Than Jake, which explains what it was like to grow up in Alabama.

That's a great one. Then 88 Fingers Louie, and one of my favorite songs of all time, Sweet Avenue by Jets to Brazil. That's so... Is that Orange Rhyming Dictionary? Yes, that is Orange Rhyming Dictionary. Was that 1998?

1998, yeah. And it's such a phenomenal song. And then there was a Lagwagon album that came Orange Riding Hood. Was that 1998? 1998, yeah. Holy shit. And it's such a phenomenal song. And then there was a Lag Laggin' album that came out that year too. It was a lot of good stuff. That's great. But I'm really happy with the choices that made it in.

Yeah. I'll throw out Party My House Be There by MXPX from Slowly Going the Way of the Buffalo is one that didn't make my list. It's a little too sugary sweet for me to really put on the list, but I liked it a lot. How about... I think I'm Paranoid by Garbage.

I think it was a huge song. That was. I mean, that was just a... I really liked that one. I wanted to put Neutral Milk Hotel, but it was like, eh. Just not really a band that I care for but what would you put on there king of king of carrot flowers like i i was i was poking around the album and going like i like these i don't love these that's just how i oh

really oh yeah in the airplane over the sea king of and king of uh carrot flowers are so fucking good i i like it i don't love it um you get what you give by new radicals is such a great one hit wonder to me and then um last one hit wonder the last one that i wanted to put on but i i didn't was the way by fastball apparently an austin band yeah they were an awesome man had no idea had no idea so um those are my picks honorable mentions anyone else i have one that is like silly it's not so there was like discussion of figuring out what would be the best format for doing this at one point it was going to be a kind of a rank debate like the movie one so i was trying to like figure out what my top 15 songs are and so when i was doing that i was trying to evaluate different things and uh i was i was debating between i discovered a song in this process

by big punisher called still not a player oh and it has that was oh it sounds so good as soon as it starts like put a smile on my face of a chorus of still not a player but i crush a lot i'm like i'm just i'm laughing like i'm smiling i'm having a great time and then it just definitively made my list when it goes into i love from butter pecan to blackberry molasse i don't discriminate i regulate every shade of the ass i was like that's it it's made it's made the cut this is a great song this is fantastic he's so big pun rules that song rules still not a player is such a good song and that is my my pick and i think we we've wrapped it up is everyone anyone else i have one honorable mention um i think it's technically 97 but

it peaked in 98 who cares remember save tonight the Break of Dawn? Yeah, that's just sheerly because that's another song where it's very difficult to get out of the chorus if you don't know the next part. Just an endless loop. That was Eagle Eye Cherry? Is that who that was? Andrew,

this was a fantastic video. This was great. So much fun. Whatever the fuck it is. This was a fantastic piece of content we just made. or whatever the fuck it is this was a fantastic piece of content we just made and i had i had so much more i didn't know how either of these was gonna go i thought the film would go pretty well because it's easy to argue film i thought this would be a i was a little more concerned because music's a little more nebulous but yeah this couldn't like your your pivot to building the playlist together i think was brilliant and this was ended up being so much fun and i would love to do it again absolutely i think this was so much fun it was

such a great process i'm so excited to now listen to this playlist and hear the things that you guys added as someone who hasn't heard a lot of these suggestions like i'm genuinely cannot wait for this to be put together so i can go through it as well in that play in that in that case we should really throw in the airplane over the sea from neutral milk hotel on the on the album because i think andrew will like that song it yeah put it on the list it's it is not on the list but it would be an honorable mention it's yeah honorable mention in case one of the other songs can't fulfill its duties it can't fulfill it's the snake eyes of this it's the first off the bench neutral milk hotel is kind of the snake eyes of music. Yeah.

This was really fun. This was a cool walk down memory lane. I wonder how these two pieces of show are going to be received. Because I feel like when we are combative at all, people go like, no, I don't like when they fight. But this was so just listing. I like this thing. And then somebody goes, that's cool. I like this thing. This one was very bull drafted in vibes. Yes.

Sure. It was really nice. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and we we built something in it that then they can enjoy, hopefully, if they enjoy the playlist. So again, summer of 98, the last good summer, 1998, the last good year. Yeah.

Well, we haven't done 2013. Really good year for music. Yeah, it was crazy for movies, for music, really pop culture. Touchdown 1998. It's a good one. Really makes you want to wear a backwards hat and go on a roller coaster. That's just that's what it is. This all sounds like let's go to Six Flags. See, that's what it this all sounds like let's go to six flags

see that's what i'm saying like it sounds like that you need to put that dr seuss hat back on that's what started that's what started this whole thing oh dude that's you know what that needs to be the cover of this playlist yes it's the dr seuss hat absolutely yeah that is great it was millie getting a dr seuss hat and me. Yeah, that is what started it. It was Millie getting a Dr. Seuss hat and me being jealous. That was at my, like, birthday laser tag, wasn't it? It was.

Exactly what it was. So funny. That's so funny, the genesis of this. And Eric was only jealous because Millie was like, I got all these tickets, I don't know what to buy.

And Eric goes, get that hat, you want that hat. And Millie's like, all right, I'll get the hat. And then he's like, damn it, I want that hat. Millie's like alright I'll get the hat and then he's like damn it I want that hat and then

I got the hat too it's such a cool hat it's so awesome that was great Andrew you want to take us out you want to do a cool outro yeah obviously this is the end of the summer of 98 as you said the last good year according to you this was so much fun I got

to listen to you guys talk about picks, even though we have an amazing friendship. It's just nice hearing your guys enthusiasm about things. And I feel like I learned more about your musical preferences. There may be more 98 content in the future. We will see. I hope you enjoyed this. I,

if you have songs that you think should have been on the list, I'd love to see what those picks are as well. Somebody who just has kind of a hole in music, uh, anything you'd like on the list I'd love to see what those picks are as well somebody who just has kind of a hole in music anything you'd like to add I'd love to see thank you guys so much for sharing your picks with you and having such great responses to all this I guess fuck 99 right like we're

not going forward this is the end bye we'll figure it out bye bye Bye.