Regulation Podcast - Unpleasantries // Not the first F**kface in V**riety [87]

Episode Date: January 26, 2022

Geoff, Gavin, and Andrew talk about our first true crime, 13 years of bullshit, being explicitly ignored, a variety article we aren't in, and Gavin's exploding apple remote kind of. If you want to sen...d your towel cards in, send to: Infinity Towel, 1901 e. 51st st, Austin, TX 78723 Want to contribute to bits? Email what you can do to ffacebits@gmail.com Sponsored by Raycon (http://buyraycon.com/face), Trade Coffee (http://drinktrade.com/face), and HelloFresh (http://hellofresh.com/face16). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:39 I woke up this morning. I thought, you know what? This is a weird thing to wake up to. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. You said you were thinking about that you were laying down are you still in bed at this point or have you started your day and then gone back to bed no no it was when i woke up it was when i when i first woke up okay through the through the slats of the through no i fixed the bed i fixed
Starting point is 00:00:58 the bed and i've actually a thing related to that to talk about today but fix the bed waking up thinking about recording very excited and then i thought about gavin and and that you always show up on time i think gavin hates pleasantries yeah i think there's there's nobody that hates pleasantries more than gavin and i don't think you realize how much joy you're missing in your life by opting out of pleasantries in what it seems to be every scenario name a memorable pleasantry experience i literally just today talked i spent 15 minutes talking with nick maybe not 15 like five talking with nick about things i never knew about him that were super interesting pleasantries that's that is pleasant conversation no it's pleasantries that's pleasant
Starting point is 00:01:42 trees hey how's it going oh you go Gavin, Pleasantries is before we record, me being able to say to you, how's your day going? And just having a little bit of a talk instead of you showing up and immediately recording. There's no room for Pleasantries. I would say that Pleasantries led in to a genuine conversation. Which is what's great about Pleasantries. You don't, you're talking about a thing you don't know about.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Pleasantries, it's true about that. Pleasantries can lead into a world of entertainment, including an inspiring conversation. That's the beauty of the pleasantry. I also experienced a wonderful conversation of pleasantries this morning talking to Jeff Yetter and Alan and a bunch of people from work while I was waiting for an executive meeting to start. I'm laser focused with Andrew on this one. I think you need to adopt.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I don't know if you had a bad pleasantry experience. I don't know where this started for you. I don't know if you've always been. You had unpleasantries. Okay, I've known both of you for many years, and we've had many, many pleasantries. No, no, we haven't. I haven't had a single pleasantry with you on this show.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Not a single one. Every time we play Halo, that's like five minutes before we stop playing. No, that is insane for you to think that Halo is a time for pleasantries. Is it not? That's ridiculous. That's just a social outing. Pleasantries is the thing before you do the thing. It's before we play the game
Starting point is 00:03:05 i think andrew's right god i hate to pile on gavin but i gotta think andrew's right i would go even further and i would say that i in my experience because i i uh i recently i think last weekend i caught a game a couple games of halo with you guys and our friend trevor and i quickly was reminded that i'm incapable of having any level of conversation with either of you without it turning into a podcast or content really yeah I was on within two minutes I was in podcast mode so I don't think pleasantries are possible because uh the second our mouths open in my estimation it turns into content well okay i'm i might be maybe i just don't know where the line is drawn at pleasantries so for example andrew why don't you have some
Starting point is 00:03:50 pleasantries with me right now i can't have pleasantries you can't have pleasantries while we're pleasantries are not for recording pleasantries are like a little hey how's it going how's your day it's a warm up imagine we weren't recording imagine we weren't recording okay door creak you can't force pleasantries alright I think I think that's a little extreme Andrew I think you can play pretend pleasantries no because here's the thing
Starting point is 00:04:16 if I can yes and Andrew yes and I disagree strongly because if we do pleasantry thing we're gonna fall right into his hand Jeff and it's gonna be boring as fuck and it's not gonna work at all and we're gonna just feel anxious that we're eating up showtime why don't we bullshit pleasantries why don't we dead why don't hey gavin i gotta fucking i know with episode 87 of face i'm gavin that's jeff and you're andrew andrew that's very high energy skip the pleasantries next week next week 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:04:47 show up 10 minutes early try the plus just try it i evaluate deliberately stay after we record every week jeff has to piss off the second we stop i stay for end pleasantries every week but nobody needs the unpleasantries oh you don't want my pleasantries at the end no they're great i don't have to leave i leave to get away from having pleasantries at the end. No, they're great. I don't have to leave. I leave to get away from having pleasantries at the end. I thought you have to, like, frequently get Millie from stuff. Yeah. A lot of times I do. A lot of times I'm racing to get Millie, but other times I just am done talking to you guys.
Starting point is 00:05:17 That's fair. I understand that completely. Yeah. I would want to be around me for more than an hour. No. I had to live with you off and on for a valid. I wouldn't want to be around me for more than an hour. No. I had to live with you off and on for a decade. I've had a lot of you. Oh, I wasn't so bad.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Surely. He threw a stick at you. I'd say you're pretty bad to live with based off of that information. Dude, it was one of the great joys of my life was every opportunity I had to be your roommate. And I say that without hyperbole. Or full of hyperbole. A full stick's that without hyperbole or full of hyperbole a full sticks worth of hyperbole jeff you once told me i was you you just out of nowhere said you're very easy to live with and i thought you were taking the piss i thought you're gonna be like here's a list of annoying
Starting point is 00:05:59 shit that i do but it was like a genuine comment i was like damn wow thanks i'm gonna tell you something right now yeah i do i'm gonna tell you something about you right now and you are easy to everything with in my experience and i mean that is a tremendous compliment you are easy to travel with you are easy to live with you are easy to commute with you are easy to play video games with you're easy to be have a lifelong friendship with you're easy to do all of the one area you are not easy to blank with is schedule you are impossible this is what i tell people all the time everyone's like oh you know your reputation and i'm telling you if i had one job i would be i think i would genuinely be a nice person to interact with. But unfortunately, I've got a lot going on all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yes, I don't mean it in that, like, you're a piece of shit and you're hard to nail down. I mean that you're a busy lad and you've got a million fingers and a million pies and you're constantly in motion and it's just hard to nail you down a lot. I'll take that. That's a nice compliment. I would say that was very pleasant. That was quite a lot of pleasantries that just occurred. No, that was just a conversation. Show up ten minutes
Starting point is 00:07:16 early, you'll get it. It's like a secret door. You gotta run through the thing in Hogwarts. The last time you freaking made it, the last time I showed up 10 minutes early, you shat on me for being early for 10 minutes. That's true. That's my fault, and I've only further
Starting point is 00:07:31 decreased your interest in pleasantries. I'll own that. I apologize. But I didn't have the perspective I have now. I realize you don't get it. There's a whole world of pleasantries you're missing. You would have loved to hear the things I heard in the pleasantries before this show. What did we miss?
Starting point is 00:07:47 Well, it's not mine to share. It's not my information, so I'm not going to say it, but it was a great conversation. You missed out on it. But you did mention, Jeff, that we played Halo recently, all of us. Yeah. And you immediately went into podcast mode,
Starting point is 00:08:00 and I was like, really? That's interesting. And then I realized I have a block of content for this show based off of it. From that Halo session session yeah I I learned yeah because we were it was content I learned something that I I didn't realize that Gavin seems very sensitive about there's there's an accusation uh some some may even say a mystery of sorts it's not an accusation or a mystery when Gavin provides the proof of his own guilt. One of you would like to get one.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Why don't you explain? Because I feel like you're you're the center of this. I explain the 13 years of bullshit I've been listening to. Yes, please. Back back in the day, Halo 3 came out. It had 1000 game of score, as many games did. And it was sort of among the the it was sort of pre achievement hunter but among the same people we were very excited to be the first person to complete the entire game's achievements but it was very easy in matchmaking to fake some of the
Starting point is 00:08:57 multiplayer achievements you just had to convince the lobby to like hey two people stand together and i'll laser through you because if you get two kills with a laser, that's an achievement. But I feel like we were all going for purity. It was me, it was Jeff, it was Bernie at the time. And I feel like we were dead set on getting them legit. Wouldn't you agree, Jeff? Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And that's what makes this so painful. Yeah, the final two achievements I was after, step and razor, triple kill with a sword in matchmaking, pretty difficult at the time, I felt like, and an overkill, which in free-for-all at the time meant killing everyone else in the game because the free-for-all matches were five people. You had to kill everyone within, what,
Starting point is 00:09:42 like three or four seconds of each other. I got them all perfectly legitimately. Very proud of it. You can tell from the timestamps of the achievements, they're quite far apart. And to this very day, neither Bernie nor Jeff believe me that my overkill was legitimate. So first off, let me hop in here and say that this was not... Gavin is not overselling how difficult this achievement was to get.
Starting point is 00:10:07 There have been very few times I've played video games where I was angry enough to physically smash a controller to the point it doesn't work anymore. I lost two controllers in the service of this achievement. It took me about 45 days after Gavin got his.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I remember because I got madder and madder the further away we got, because especially after I realized that he had cheated and, uh, and I was still trying to get mine legitimately. And then, and then fucking bungee on top of that did an extra fuck you to me. Uh, I,
Starting point is 00:10:38 I eventually about 45 days later, I got it. Uh, it was one of the greater moments of my life. It was on my third controller. Uh, and, uh, and I was done. I was one of the greater moments of my life. It was on my third controller. And I was done. I was so happy.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Less than like a month later, they upped that game mode to have six people in it. And it became instantly easier to get it. Way, way, way, way, way easier to get it. I think I had to get it on Rats Nest, if memory serves. I can't remember all the map names. But the point
Starting point is 00:11:04 is, it was very, very hard to get. And I think names but the point is it was very very hard to get and I think part of the reason why it's so frustrating to me and I know it was so frustrating to Bernie is how hard it was for us to do it legitimately for you to just stand three people in a row and kill them I was very happy
Starting point is 00:11:20 to provide video evidence of my achievements because at the time this is before Achievement Hunter existed, at the time I'd still saved the clips in theater mode of all of the moments I got those achievements. So I thought I can just go back to these clips now that Achievement Hunter exists and make a little achievement guide for achievements that I've already got. I've got all the clips. I've got Step and Razor. I've got the 2-for-1 Laser. I've got Overkill. I put it up as a video,
Starting point is 00:11:49 and all I got was utter shit for both of these people. When was the last time you watched this, Jeff? The video. I probably haven't seen it in 10 years. I don't even know if this is the real clip or if he's found in it. No, no, this is the real clip. There's one.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Tell me your feelings on this as you watch this video. You mean that guy that he just hit twice who refused to look at him are you already on the overkill yeah I already I already watched it I can't play a little while ago I still see definitely see you cheating to get this achievement this is a video from October 5th 2008 which is I assume when I uploaded it and the first guy I'll admit in my overkill the first guy just doesn't damage me at all he does I don't know if he didn't see me or
Starting point is 00:12:30 he's just walking backwards but I had the hammer and it was a I probably still got the entire game as a theater mode file I give you the I think maybe the third kill is legitimate. What do you mean? The rest of them are definitely not. It's okay, man.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Everybody was doing it. Why would I give you the video if I cheated? Who? Why would you cheat? I mean, you already saw it. I don't know why that would change anything based off of his previous opinion. But I had never heard of this conflict. This was all new to me and it was clear gavin was passionate about it and jeff has talked about wanting to do a mystery show of some kind all right we're gonna solve a crime what better crime and or mystery to potentially try to solve than gavin's overkill issue, so I went deep I did some research. Oh
Starting point is 00:13:27 Now now the problem is the video quality is 240p So when I started to do my research This is there's a moment in which Gavin shows a screen of players trying to decipher that Not easy. It's completely blurred. You can't really make out anybody's names are you gonna try and like contact these people oh feel free son and now and gavin's this is what helps gavin is in like february last year bungee got rid of all of their old stats that they used to have for halo on their website so there's no immediately accessible paper trail to this it's just impossible however Gavin thankfully as he mentioned he recorded these as clips and then put them on his file share so a clean version
Starting point is 00:14:13 of all these exist on Halo 3 but you need to be in Halo 3 to get it and Halo 3 servers went down I think yesterday like it was a whole thing so like once again the timing of this very convenient for you gavin but i hopped on i hopped on twitter and i was like hey does anyone happen to have a copy of halo 3 and and somebody was fucking kind enough to do it they pulled out a copy of halo 3 they even fucking um had to pull out a 360 they had like four console updates they had to go through matt king was the the kind enough person to be the other thank you matt king for doing this detective work for us so he booted up his 360 he got everything i needed so these were are the screenshots i got from Matt King of all the different player names in the lobby that Gavin interacted with.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Much clearer. I can do research. So I went on. I went on to investigate. Wait, wait, wait. You don't need to investigate any further. You just need to free cam that clip. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:15:17 Are you saying you pulled the theater? The mode clip? No, he did. I don't. Yeah. So he could just he could have just free-cammed the map and watched everyone else fight without me. Well, that already exists.
Starting point is 00:15:29 There are moments of that, but that doesn't necessarily... I mean, that's a great argument against it being legitimate. There's moments within the clip itself in which there is a fight unrelated to Gavin before he has the hammer. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:41 What was great is I didn't intend for this to fuck with Gavin. Gavin got this achievement on the 18th of october 2007 and so i randomly last night texted gavin what were you doing the night of eight on the 18th of october 2007 and he was very confused in a way that he felt like it felt like you thought i was fucking with you i said i don't know but the day before i went bowling confirmation on bowling and he had a photo of a pen up his nose from three days later so a definite criminal yeah do you have a post it
Starting point is 00:16:12 uh i don't have it immediately on hand uh but if if i could anyway i looked into these people i have a question for you so were you in england at the time? Yeah. That makes sense because one of the people I looked up, Raycon79, this is their profile, their bio. Maybe you can make sense of it to me. I don't understand it. Maybe we'll edit it out. This is what his bio was. If your ma'am's an Arsenal fan, if your ma'am's an Arsenal fan,
Starting point is 00:16:41 then she should go to Hapfrey Market and buy a bag of Cypress Spuds. Like, all that confirmed to me is that they were also in England. That's one of my people right there. Is that an insult? I don't know! Is that pro Arsenal or anti-Arsenal? I don't know! What are the
Starting point is 00:17:02 spuds? Is there a significance to Cypress Spuds, Gavin? You don't know what a spud is? No, I know what are what are the spuds is there a significance to cyprus spuds gavin you don't know what a spud is no i know what a spud is i know but what is a cyprus spud don't know it's a very specific you don't know okay so that's just well don't don't british people retire to cyprus a lot isn't that like a big retirement yeah it's popular location hmm so that's a picture of a cheater two days after i ever caught you that's not the face of a chia uh-huh so i looked in all these people sadly and i because i'd love for this to be like undeniable gavin is guilty sadly most of these people no i'd rather be guilty i think be funnier if i was able to confirm me too uh but all of these
Starting point is 00:17:46 people none of them got the achievement they didn't get in on that day and they never got it at all we can now belittle we can belittle gavin's achievement though because most of them have only played halo for like one day these are all people that had no idea what they were doing that explains the behavior in the game i got lucky no. No, it doesn't. What? What it explains to me is Gavin said, hey, he messaged some people, because he was, you know, a member of the Rooster Teeth community at this point. There were a lot of people out there.
Starting point is 00:18:14 We were amongst a lot of gamers of our ilk. I think he probably turned to a couple people and said, hey, would you guys mind hopping on and helping me get this achievement real fast? All you guys got to do is just let me kill you once with this hammer real quick, and then we'll just have fun playing Halo together. I don't think that's likely.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I think it's more likely that these people just didn't know what they were doing. You've done tremendous work here. Well, I'm not quite... So the good news, as I said, Bungie got rid of all their stats. There's a community initiative going on where they've pulled all the data from that,
Starting point is 00:18:43 and they're working on uploading it as an independent independent thing and it sounded like that might be available by like the end of this month so i'm hoping to have the game locks because i was able to look into all these people however the most damaging thing about this is by far the most suspicious of the kills is soul leader your first one where he looks at you and then just does nothing and turns back the other way yeah he he does not exist on xbox i don't know who this person is i reached out to major nelson on twitter about it no reply wasn't able to get clarification for a question i had that's okay busy man but he doesn't exist and that's really like if you wanted anyone to clear your name, it is Soul Eater. But the one account that is Soul Eater on Xbox has only played Phantasy Star Online.
Starting point is 00:19:31 So it's a different account. So either Soul Eater was suspended or I think more likely they changed their game. Could be cheating. Can't rule that out. That's why I was trying to get in contact with Major Nelson to find the backstory of Soul Eater. I also love that in the photo of Soul Eater, you can see the guy's reflection, but you can't make an idea.
Starting point is 00:19:49 It adds to the mystery of who Soul Eater is. I spent so much time trying to track that guy down. I do think that that first kill is pretty suspect. Also, the last kill, when Gavin swings the hammer at the guy, the guy looks at Gavin and then looks to the left and then lets Gavin kill him again is pretty fucking suspect. There are some definite
Starting point is 00:20:07 things. I'm watching this again. The first guy uh, okay. There's a fight going on. There's no way this would be, yeah, smack. Okay, uh, I'm in a bubble. Oh, so this isn't the spree. I've put a bit of head on this, apparently. There is a little bit of head on. Yeah, that guy is just not doing anything.
Starting point is 00:20:24 No, he's useless. Like, he doesn't, it's the most suspicious as i said of all of them well gavin only needed him to have that account for one day so that is true most of the accounts feel like they only existed for one day uh the only one that had any history on it was the the yamams and arsenal fan guy i messaged several people on his friends list if they have any memory of them and i didn't get a reply back from anybody. I tried. I did a thorough investigation
Starting point is 00:20:48 or at least as thorough as I could get. I think there's a really, really good chance that at least a couple of these accounts are Gavin. You think so? You think?
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yeah. Gavin had a ton of accounts back in the day. He had a big thing about like tricking people into changing their gamer tags. He was hyper obsessed with gamer tags and accounts back then. I've had in my life. He had a big thing about tricking people into changing their gamer tags. He was hyper-obsessed with gamer tags and accounts back then. I've had, in my life...
Starting point is 00:21:08 He had a US account, a British account. Two gamer tags. Well, that you cop up to. Yeah. That's true. That you acknowledge as yours, of course. Two that you've said are yours. I will say this.
Starting point is 00:21:18 The person that helped on Twitter pull this all together, they thought you were undeniably guilty of staging this. Oh, my God. Freaking fly around the map, dude around everyone's fighting they felt very strongly so I don't know I think it could be interesting the people can watch it is in a video that I linked um I'm sure there there will be some way maybe I should just read it's on the site too but it's not the video quality isn't any different it's Halo 3 overkill step and razor two for one mongoose modem guide rooster teeth you can find what happened to that file by the way 240p how did i capture it so low i don't know it's not like hd
Starting point is 00:21:55 wasn't already around that must have been captured in at least 720 i would say so there you have an face and there you have an audience uh this is, and then Nick, if you could cut in some law and order or mystery type music right here. First mystery! F***face is going to solve the mystery, hopefully with the help of the comment leavers and the regulation listeners. Is Gavin the cheat that we all suspect he is? Let's get to the bottom of it. Okay. Now we have our 2022 mystery. This is our now we have our 2022 mystery this is our first
Starting point is 00:22:26 true crime this is yeah this is our first it's not i i guess the the murder it'd be the murder of gavin's uh uh honesty and character okay yes i would say not guilty based on my investigation but maybe people can go out with the the information shared and find stuff i didn't find i fully fully condone delving in as deep as possible to this clip um the truth will be clear as clear as 240p can be yeah you did you did a great job andrew Unfortunately, the results are inconclusive. You end up, and this is the problem, I think, with, well, it's just strength and a weakness, right?
Starting point is 00:23:12 I think you tend to see the good in people, which is a great human quality, but as an investigator, it can cloud judgment. The person that you involved in it was convinced Gavin cheated. it was convinced Gavin cheated. I am convinced Gavin cheated. Basically, everyone that's known Gavin for most of his life is convinced he cheated.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Take that for what it's worth. But maybe the audience can help us elucidate this matter. That would be great. Any additional information would be awesome. I hope those things get posted at the end of the month so I can go in and look at specifically the stats because I feel like that could also be a big indicator of things.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Here's what we need. You know how we have the phenomenal Vancouver Childkicker poster that you can put up with information about the Vancouver Childkicker if you can contact us? We need a Did Gavin Cheat banner that people can put up, like a poster, a flyer. People can
Starting point is 00:24:04 put up at coffee shops if you have information on gavin uh whether he cheated or not in this halo game can you email bits at facepod.com or whatever it is i don't even know what our address is i want i want to just a billboard of the names when gavin shows the lobby of this thing that 240p pixely thing on a giant billboard. Just people complaining, it making no sense. No context, no information, just the worst billboard ever made. Not enough 240p billboards out there.
Starting point is 00:24:39 That's weird. I swear it wasn't 240p originally. I think YouTube's like shat the bed on that video. It's so old. It was. Like the base file, as you said, I think Halo 3 was 720p. So I think somehow in the transferring process. And Gavin was so ahead of the game in tech back then too
Starting point is 00:24:56 that the only way that video could be 240p if he knew that that was the only way that he could adequately obscure the game tags so that no further investigation could be done. Wherever you're going, you better believe American Express will be right there with you. Heading for adventure?
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Starting point is 00:25:46 my personal life so i fixed the bed is fixed i've talked about this before i just the the box spring arrived oh i gained a box spring i lost a bed frame my bed frame is now broken so you're off the slats i'm off the slats i've i've upgraded from the slats built it like it's all good it was the night it was finished. I laid down in bed. I was very comfortable. And I was just looking at the Play Store and I decided I'm going to buy the shitty $2 mobile game. Why not?
Starting point is 00:26:14 This seems like a great time. So I go to buy it and they asked me to put in my Gmail password for it. And I don't remember what it is and I have it saved on my computer. But I just didn't feel like getting up out of bed. I just laid I was cozy so I just guessed I was like I'm just gonna guess I've got like six or seven in my head that I think it could be so I just go through the list of those and none of them work and then it gets to the point where it's like hey you've run out of tries you can't you can't try anymore do you want to like reset your password I don't need to reset my password because I can easily like it's it's password i don't need to reset my password because i can
Starting point is 00:26:45 easily like it's it's fine i don't necessarily need this two dollar mobile game but i was like you know what i don't even this is how little i feel like getting out of bed right now i'm just gonna reset my password and then it's fine then i can just buy this thing so i reset my password no problem doing it go through the thing ask me verify code. It sends it to my alternate email. Great. Awesome. New password. When you sign out of or change a password on like a Gmail account and you have two factor authentication on it, it signs you out everywhere as soon as you do it. Yeah. So I changed my password. Then I go to sign into my account and it says, OK, we need to verify this is you we have
Starting point is 00:27:25 pushed an alert to your your google pixel click yes and you're in and nothing comes there's there's just nothing shows up on my pixel so i'm like okay that didn't work try again so then it says okay we'll text you we'll text you at this number and then put in the code it's my last phone number for some reason i never changed my phone number it's my previous phone number and i'm like oh fuck okay we'll try again so i click try again and this is okay we're gonna email you a verification code to the email you're locked out of just put that in and then you're all good it for some reason has just decided my alternate email doesn't exist i have hacked my own account i cannot get into my gmail i lost access to my gmail sunday night i have yet to be able to get back in i kept trying to the point where it said you can no longer attempt to even recover this email but i'm in a
Starting point is 00:28:18 stage now where i've given them alternate information and they're like we will get back to you after 48 hours which is a really weird phr're like, we will get back to you after 48 hours, which is a really weird phrasing of when we'll get back to you, because it could be months from now. I don't know when I'm going to get my personal email back, and all I wanted to do was download a $2 Rockstar or Rock Band clone. It was a dumb mobile game, and I've lost everything. All because your bed was too comfy?
Starting point is 00:28:43 All because my bed was too comfy, and I bed was too comfy and i fixed it and i just it fucking is crazy to me that they will not recognize that i have an email that isn't the fact it keeps saying we'll send you verification code to your email that you're trying to get into is insane and i'm sure that that's my fault i somehow fucked that up at some point but just there's another email there that you asked me for when i changed my password why have you now decided that that isn't valid this has been my pain i don't know what to do i didn't even know i don't ever memorize my own phone number so i didn't remember what the number was so that's why on slack a few days ago i passed i posted hey
Starting point is 00:29:22 do any of you guys have a number that ends with these numbers how do you not remember your phone number so i i do do you need it no i remembered that on amazon they have numbers saved with previous addresses so i was able to find it that way the reason why i don't remember my phone number gavin is because my dad took my number when i was a teenager he was paying for my phone plan and he was getting rid of one phone, and he's like, yeah, I need your number. So he just took my phone number, and I just have refused to ever learn a number past that.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Ever since that point, I just don't. It's such an annoyance. Wouldn't your friends at the time text your dad by accident? No, I never used my phone. I'm not not a phone guy nobody i interacted with would text me use different messaging services for that purpose um there are no texts going on so if i text your old number am i talking to your dad no a number before you never knew that number i don't think i don't think you were aware of that phone number so who am i texting if i text that number that you asked about that's the thing i don't know and my hope is is that that i don't know if that number is even in service so it's like maybe i
Starting point is 00:30:33 should just call the number and see if somebody's there because i can get the code from them then i'm totally fine i believe i don't think there's any other issues should i call just text that number and say hey can, can you just post the code you're about to get to this number? But they can ignore the text. Like, I don't know. Yeah, they can ignore that text or they could answer it.
Starting point is 00:30:54 You'll never know. But if I just call them... You'll contact anybody on earth. You would try to contact the president for an interview if you could, but you're scared to contact the owner of your old phone? Just text him right now.
Starting point is 00:31:05 The texting mechanism is what I don't trust. What if it's just not active? I'm just wasting my time and I'm mad at this non-existing person. And if it's not active, I think I theoretically could get that number back if I went
Starting point is 00:31:22 back to the previous company I was getting service for. Because there have been times where I've been locked out of accounts and then I've just copied the email. I recreated the email that didn't exist. And then I was able to get in because I was sending it to the new email that I made that was labeled. I'm going to
Starting point is 00:31:38 call. I'm going to call. Let's see if this is You're going to call now? Yeah. Okay. The number you are calling is unavailable. Please try again Yeah. Okay. The number you are calling is unavailable. Please try again later. That. Oh. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:31:49 That's a phone that is off or not in service, I think. Yeah. Okay. Well, no, that's actually kind of a positive because I can then. Yeah. If it doesn't have a voicemail, it's been gone a while, I think. Yeah. Probably.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I'm going to look into this. I'm going to see if I can get my old number back but that has been my annoyance is the fact that I essentially hacked into my own account and Google is protecting me from getting into my account you should try to get that number quickly as quickly as possible before I get it
Starting point is 00:32:20 before I figure out how to get it you would care because you'll never you'll never get that fucking code i guarantee you that i'm i don't know if yeah i don't know if you want to go to war jeff i'd find a way retaliate i know you would i know you would port-a-potty's just the beginning yeah i wouldn't mess with them that's wave one should i talk about the uh absolute face i did to myself last night in bed oh i'm so excited to hear this dude please yeah i just had probably the shortest duration face the most instant face that i've ever experienced go on i was in bed uh trying to watch um not to talk about bo burnham again
Starting point is 00:33:08 but i was trying to watch his show that just went on netflix for ages ago uh with mech and the apple tv remote is an utter piece of shit i don't know if you've experienced this turd um i've had so many experiences where like the skip ahead 10 seconds and the skip back 10 seconds on the on the time on the on the sides just stop working after a while like i've i've had these replaced before i'm at i'm at the point with this one where i'm just like this is so bad you so the clicks on the side stop working so it doesn't skip back 10 seconds each time so you end up trying to actually like manually moving the playhead on a video around and it just skipping all over the place
Starting point is 00:33:48 and I'm getting annoyed. I'm like, it's a shitty thing. And Meg's laughing at me because I complain about this damn thing constantly. So she's making fun of me that I just don't do anything about it. And I like to do things just rad, like I like to surprise Meg
Starting point is 00:34:02 in quite extreme ways sometimes. For example example she recently told me um that i've been wearing a shirt too long because it had a hole in it and she's been staring at this hole for years so i just put my finger through it and just tore the shirt off my body like i hulked out of it and she thought that was funny so i thought you know i'm gonna i'm gonna do something about this apple remote so in the middle of the conversation of me complaining about this Apple remote, I just out of nowhere snapped it in half. I just snapped it right down the middle and what it felt like was that someone threw a cup of sand in my face and then I just heard what sounded like sand raining all over
Starting point is 00:34:42 both of us and the bed. turns out they're made of glass the whole thing is glass i shot tiny shards of glass into my eyes and face all over both of us raining down on the entire bedroom at like 11 p.m and i've just sat there with glass in my hair and my chest hair in my in my cup of tea on my nightstand so i'm like wow what an actual definition of face I shot myself in the foot because just for a joke what an idiot I had to strip the bed sheets
Starting point is 00:35:32 I'm there I've got I'm hoovering up I'm hoovering up this tiny like sand glass from the entire room I can't find a single piece of floor that doesn't look like it's covered in glitter changing the sheets. We're laughing about it first.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Then after like, you know, 10 minutes, we're just like, oh, what a move, right? Like what a turn. We're like winding down for the evening. So then I'm putting the sheets on. I'm putting the replacement sheets on. Dragging the sheets over the bottom corner of the bed. Pushing down. Suddenly, I just hear it. and my face hits the bed.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I tear the brand new bed sheet. I'm putting it all around the mattress. My face hits the bed. I'm on my knees at this point and I'm just like, I need to go to bed. I don't know what's wrong with this sort of 30 minute period, but I'm not having a good time in it. It's everything's going wrong. So those were my bed problems,
Starting point is 00:36:30 my bed f*** face from last night. Do you think they were unrelated, or do you think one related, like you connected because of the remote? That you somehow... What if your fingers had thousands of tiny microscopic pieces of glass embedded in them and now you just have like razor hands and you're ripped to the sheets with your little tiny shark tooth fingers.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Gavin Glass hands. I honestly had glass all over my hands. That thing, I highly, I highly recommend when you get annoyed at that thing, just put it in the bin. Don't do that to it. You guys got to stay away from your bedrooms. They're dangerous. Yeah. How's your bedroom been recently, Jeff?
Starting point is 00:37:16 It's fine. It's totally fine. No problems. No issues. Don't even want to talk about it. You fucking cut a hole through your bed with your your glass hands i know that's unbelievable so it's a shitty remote but if you want to turn into wolverine very cheaply yeah all you have to do if you need a weapon quickly just snap one of those puppies
Starting point is 00:37:40 you can be it's like you know how like the joker would leave a joker card at the scene of the crime gavin glass hands slices a hole in the front right corner of the bed that didn't disappoint you can still see in stuff though right You don't have glass in your eyes? You're okay? It's a trade. You have no vision, but you can cut through any bed you want. So that's why I texted you last night. I just faced the shit out of myself.
Starting point is 00:38:19 You said podcast story. I said, yes, just change the bed sheets. You said tomorrow's going to be incredible oh and i was right what makes me so happy is i was so cozy in bed when i got that text i was just all comfortable relaxed yeah i was about 20 minutes earlier are you scared now that if you meet bo burnham he's just gonna die immediately or like something horrible will happen to him like you seem to have this fandom for this person but every engagement
Starting point is 00:38:50 you have with them is a negative in some way well this remote has not been working on many more shows than this Bo Burnham show but I don't think they're related what's the breaking point we're gonna find out that Gavin is the carrier of a disease that only Bo Burnham is susceptible to.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I mean, just to be sure, I'll try and avoid him, unfortunately. But yeah, as long as I can still watch his content. According to his content, he's had it hard enough, man. He doesn't need you in his life. He's like an alien from war of the worlds and gavin is the one thing he hasn't been exposed to his next special is just called gavin can you imagine how disappointed gavin would be if he found out that bo burnham liked the most recent matrix movie that would everything there'd be nothing more disappointing remember that thing i said about pleasantries never have them with bo burnham spend as little
Starting point is 00:39:50 time with him as possible in the future what other people's opinions on movies aren't make or break to the relationship they really mean nothing you said you wouldn't cease to be my friend if i like that movie i strongly i think i was just trying to get you to watch the movie why would that make me you to watch the movie. Why would that make me want to watch the movie? That was dead. That was dead. That was dead. That was dead.
Starting point is 00:40:10 That was dead. That was dead. That was dead. That was dead. That was dead. That was dead. That was dead. That was dead.
Starting point is 00:40:11 That was dead. That was dead. That was dead. I really didn't say that. I was like, I don't think less of you as a person. No, you said it would end our friendship and you would cease to make this podcast. Yes, you did. You would disown anybody that thought that that movie was great
Starting point is 00:40:25 oh well if you like that movie that's fine i just read no that's i just uh i just i just really didn't like it that's not a lot of people love it a lot of people love it i can see why they do i listen when we were playing halo trevor brought up that he enjoyed it and it sounded like a real tiptoe enjoyed because he knew the bear was there. The Matrix bear was there and he would not tolerate. Gavin would not allow. I'm not here to guard the fourth Matrix. Gavin Glass hands would be all over him if he said he enjoyed
Starting point is 00:40:54 that film. I should watch it now. Well, now that I know that it won't enter friendship, I might watch it. No, I really, I hope you like it. I hope you do. I'm sad that I didn't. Maybe that's our next tuxedo watching. I still haven't heard back from the director of the tuxedo.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I sent him one more email yesterday. My last one. I'm hopeful, but I don't think we're going to get an reply. I'm telling you, you have created an enemy. I don't want an enemy. I want a friend, Jeff. I'm trying to make a friend. Well, you're going about it
Starting point is 00:41:27 in a weird way. Yeah, don't insult someone and give them your phone number. That's not how you make friends. You know the only movie you were lucky enough to make in your life? We made fun of it.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Do you want to be my friend? I didn't... That's like... I understand what you're saying. When you say it on paper, it is a terrible idea. But genuinely, I was hoping for a friendship with the director of the Tuxedo. And I still think it's possible.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I still believe. I had a movie blunder of my own this week. I was trying to watch... I wanted to watch Beer Fest. Because Jeff said it had that moment where the guy dies and then his brother comes along and just is that guy. I was like 80 minutes into the movie and I was like
Starting point is 00:42:12 when's this guy gonna show up? Realized I was watching Beer League. The Artie Lang movie? The Artie Lang movie. With Ralph Macchio? Oh my god. I was like 80 minutes into that, I was like, oh shit, it was beer fest.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Oh, dude. You're 80 minutes in? To beer league? Very similar sounding films. Yeah, no, it's true. And they came out around the same time, too, actually. Yeah. Beer league. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Beer league is no dirty work, I'll say oh oh yeah no it was uh dirty work a much better movie hey did we ever talk about how you guys probably killed betty white uh i won't take that one yeah that was that's i mean maybe considering the timing of when the episode came out but when we actually talked about Betty White it wasn't really anywhere near that No it was quite a long time ago We killed Truly Scrumptious no doubt about it That was like the next day Yeah do you think it would be Would it be a bad taste to just like
Starting point is 00:43:16 Say Would that be bad What do you have against No I'm just you know What Andrew's trying to fucking kill What do you have against No I'm just you know What Andrew's trying to fucking kill The guy's like a national Treasure man
Starting point is 00:43:31 What are you doing Listen I'm not the one with glass all over my hands right now I'm just I'm saying Why would you Can we just He was the first person To survive COVID for Christ's sake. Yeah, didn't we use his blood?
Starting point is 00:43:48 I love... Well, stop saying his name! Stop saying his name! I'm a big fan. What's wrong with you? I'm a big fan. Of all people you could pick, you could pick the most beloved guy in Hollywood? Oh!
Starting point is 00:44:02 I was just saying, wouldn't that be sad if that happened. What are you doing? Oh, stop! Why do you keep saying it? I, um, well, who, um. It doesn't work that way. If you want to kill somebody, they don't die. It's only people that you like. And I love
Starting point is 00:44:18 this is great. I love Stop saying it. Uh, I haven't liked his most recent films how about that is that okay like i didn't see a lot of them the hologram and the kings i like i didn't see that the circle is that what the the internet movie was that he was in with with oh boy i said another one oh no how do i navigate this i mean it doesn't work intentionally so hopefully he's safe yeah yeah no i'm sure it's fine it's also all bullshit none of this matters so i don't know what we're doing well that's true oh it's obviously uh sure obviously obviously complete bullshit
Starting point is 00:44:56 but still complete there's still all that does is say something about you are there anything that you're supernatural about like that like you have a routine is say something about you. Are there anything that you're supernatural about? Like that, like you have a routine? Like what's it, what's a routine thing for you that like doesn't actually make sense,
Starting point is 00:45:13 but you feel is true. Something that you believe is true even though it isn't. Yeah, like a little superstition. Yeah. I mean, I don't walk under ladders, but that's nothing to do with superstition.
Starting point is 00:45:24 It's just someone could drop something on your head. Yeah, when a stick has fallen from the sky I mean, I don't walk under ladders, but that's nothing to do with superstition. It's just... Someone could drop something on your head. Yeah, when a stick has fallen from the sky and hit you, I can understand having a general not trust of things from above. I must have some. I just can't think of any.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Really? Not a single superstition? Not that it's born out of fear. I do a lot of stuff out of routine. Like, I draw a little face in the shower on the wind, like in the glass every shower I take and I can't shower until I do. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Could you recreate the shower outside of the shower or can it only be in the shower that you feel? Just only in the steam of a shower that I draw the little face. I've been doing it for years. Every shower I've taken. I don't know why but now I have to little face. I've been doing it for years. Every shower I've taken. I don't know why, but now I have to do it because I've been doing it. You're like, oh, it's been like 1,200 days. Where are the ears?
Starting point is 00:46:12 There's no ears. What type of mouth? You don't look up in a shower. No, you... Well, it depends. Is your back facing... If your back is, then looking up is nice. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:46:25 It's really a positional look up. But not all scenarios. You know what? Hey, something I want to talk about. I don't think Gavin is aware of this. We have faced, speaking of celebrities, we have faced our own thing. Our own, what we've predicted has come true, Gavin.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Uh... Here's... Are you... I know it's a terrible way of setting that up. What is the... Oh, fuck. This is so fucking funny to me. This is so funny to me.
Starting point is 00:47:01 It's very funny. I'm sure it is. Are you going to say it? Yeah, I'm getting there. Give me a minute. John Cena is making a Peacekeeper podcast on the Rooster Teeth Network. Yeah. And it was recently reported on by Variety. I'm going to just read you.
Starting point is 00:47:19 The Variety magazine. The Variety, one of the high, I'd say the highest profile entertainment magazine in LA in Hollywood, I would say Is that wrong? It's definitely top three Variety and Hollywood Reporter would be they're the only games in town They're the top ones So it's a mention of that this podcast is going to be made
Starting point is 00:47:38 by Rooster Teeth and a part of it there's an excerpt that says Other podcasts from Rooster Teeth produced from studios in LA and Austin, Texas, include Face Jam, Off Topic, Black Box Down, Red Web, and the long-running Rooster Teeth podcast, which now numbers more than 500 episodes. We were left off that list.
Starting point is 00:48:01 We were not included. Mad. Oh, I wonder why. Really, really f****** faced ourselves there I wonder if we should just run an ad for f*** face on the John Cena podcast that would can we do that that'd be great if that's a thing we can do I think going forward any mention of variety
Starting point is 00:48:16 Nick make sure you bleep part of it yeah make sure it's bleep we're no longer we gotta censor part of their name so like right now I'm saying f*** 80 like that doesn't come through unbleaped no there's at least a bleep in it any any time we also should have bleeped all of no yeah let's bleep all of going forward this is how they'll be known the star star rioty um i just love the idea that this like prestigious hollywood writer or company whatever
Starting point is 00:48:48 they're looking at a list of things and that they have to decide if they're going to include face or not that the fact that there needs to be some level of dialogue at some stage of this process in which they need to either make the decision to include a podcast named face or not at all when they didn't which i get it understand completely but it's hilarious i told andrew last night that it or whenever we talked about it that uh it it was kind of a perfect virtuous moment because i got so fucking infuriated like furious like i was gonna yell at people upset that we weren't in it, that we didn't get it. We got one of the, you know, no offense to those other podcasts.
Starting point is 00:49:30 They're all great, but, you know, we're larger than most of them. And we're doing very well for ourselves considering our name and in spite of our name. And then I realized that this is why I wanted to name it F*** Face because I wanted to F*** face ourselves, right? And the fact that I got so angry in such a brief little window of time because we were excluded from that moment means that the podcast... Yeah, I was actually angry.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Means that the podcast is so successful that it means this much to me that it made me mad, which made me happy because then I thought, oh, so we've, we've arrived, we've made it. We're, we're successful enough that I'm mad when we don't get mentioned.
Starting point is 00:50:11 So it was like a perfect moment where I went from anger to bliss in a, like that. Just to, I, I pause Gavin, let me continue from, from the, the,
Starting point is 00:50:21 the story. Okay. Rooster Teeth also operates the Roost Podcast Network, which features partners such as the H3 Podcast, This Might Get Weird with Grace Helbig, and Mamrie Hart, Philip DeFranco's A Conversation With, and Kinda Funny.
Starting point is 00:50:36 They name every other podcast, not even ones directly affiliated with. They name all of them. And to be clear, this isn't for me at all a thing of like we deserve to be on there that's why i'm annoyed by it i love the idea just because of our name alone that we have to be in those conversations and they have to have meetings in which they include do we do we talk about this yeah it's like reading that you know we've been explicitly ignored there's no way
Starting point is 00:51:01 they could have missed us undeniably excluded like without a doubt maybe they're just saving it maybe they're gonna do an exclusive face interview an article dedicated to the podcast and they're just saving it maybe when uh the director of the tuxedo directs the child kicker movie we can get into variety through that be the perfect transition to hollywood connection right together it is funny though this name like because the company there are people at the company who have real jobs and doing like you know real analytics trying to see what's working looking at the growth and faces on those like with graphs and stuff and like projections and it's like yeah why it's
Starting point is 00:51:45 called face of course it's not gonna be of course it can't be huge what do you want read the name it makes me it's the best part it's i think a fair trade of searchability versus the hilarity of anybody having anyone that has to deal with the name of our show or any part of it that is outside of it brings me eternal happiness it makes me laugh every time it's great did you see what nick typed when the director of the tuxedo falls a restraining order against andrew will finally make it in the variety i will say unfortunately we wouldn't be the first face in variety. I was curious.
Starting point is 00:52:26 So I looked on their thing. There is one opinion article about something Bill Maher said in like 2011 in which they quote him as saying face. So it wouldn't be the first. So they're not opposed to writing that. At least in 2012, they weren't. And they didn't even censor it like us. Classy individuals. We've done the work for them.
Starting point is 00:52:46 We even bleep it in our own show. Couldn't be classier about it. I think it's time, Andrew, that you reached out to VIT and see what the hell's going on over there. Yeah, gotta investigate. I just, I'd love war on all media. War on all media.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Yeah, we talked about that. We did. We should just should just write an email where that is the subject line war on all media this name keeps delivering it does well preventing deliveries we keep fucking ourselves it's uh kind of perfect i enjoy hearing different takes on the name like bleep face some people say bleep face some say f face some say the actual name of the show hearing the different takes i always find interesting i would like i haven't told many people if you've recommended this guest in person to somebody i'd like to know what that story is the read like the expression read when telling somebody you
Starting point is 00:53:41 should listen to and then name of show Am I alone no I was I was just imagining that scenario I realized that I prevented me from saying anything, but I was just picturing it no yeah You guys both fucking vanished off the face to the point where I thought the law had once again won I thought I was dealing with another lie issue Oh, we were here and I was gonna were here. I was just in the moment. Yeah, I was just listening to you, man. You're that interesting. Well, I would bring up another podcast for a moment.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Gavin mentioned on the Rooster Teeth podcast that somebody he knows listened to a really broken episode because there were talks about it being one of our best episodes. So it was their first experience with it. And you brought up so many great points that i didn't even consider where the first 10 minutes of that episode is us yelling about the law a thing that we never talk about within the episode itself you have had to have listened to the previous one that any context we never explain what that is then it transitions into a visual gag yeah all the jack's car stuff which you can't see then it goes into a discussion about the plane window where we don't explain the original scenario again it's also a holdover from the week before
Starting point is 00:54:59 and he was like this is the shittiest podcast i don't know anything that's happening nothing's that what are you talking about it's it's a mess and i i never even think about that Like, this is the shittiest podcast. I don't know anything that's happening. I've been listening for half an hour. Nothing's happening. What are you talking about? It's a mess. And I never even think about that. But it's absolutely fair. Our quote best podcast is probably the worst introductory podcast you could possibly submit to a friend.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Unless you give a cheat sheet. We should make a cheat sheet for that podcast. Here's what you need to know to listen to this podcast. That's like a pop-up video a cheat sheet for that podcast here's what you need to know to listen to this podcast that's like a pop-up video style cheat sheet that's interesting uh also i think that you i don't remember it was recently i think in a podcast you i thought perfectly nailed it when you described this podcast as deep lore about nothing i can't think of another episode that better exemplifies deep lore about nothing than I can't think of another episode that better exemplifies deep lore about nothing than what you just described.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Yeah. Yes. It's great. I feel like if you, did we even do it? I don't think we, did we, no,
Starting point is 00:55:55 Gavin, Gavin, you did an intro. Holy fuck. You did an intro. Hey, I bet you 10 grand I've done an intro. Wait,
Starting point is 00:56:04 did we, did we put a, no, can intro. Wait, did we put a... No. Can someone check the tapes? Did we put a cap to that? You can't just do that now. There's no way that that's allowed. I now owe you a pencil and 10 grand.
Starting point is 00:56:22 What continues to be left on the redemption docket are we getting the marathon and the pencil this year what's happening uh marathon is is in the docket it is it's like it's a thing that will i honestly the thing of the marathon i want to find a way that i can update my progress live i feel like that'd be the most fun way to track that and i haven't been able to find a device that would do that in a way that anyone could look at. Like if you could just pull it up like a live distance tracker. Can't you do the Strava app or one of those? I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Those are like fitness apps that you can record. Yeah, that's a track because we can get you. Yeah, we can get you. Okay, well if you can find it. It's going to cost you about two bucks on a cell phone. You're going to need a Google account though, so we'll need to work that out first. That is an issue. I want to redo Donkey Kong Country,
Starting point is 00:57:09 or whatever, Donkey Kong 64. Yeah. On your Android the Donkey Kong guy? No, well, I made a f***face Twitch account because you and I were going to do another Halo thing, and then you just never agreed to another level to work on. Oh, right. So it left dormant. So I'd probably do it on that.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Not Andrew the Donkey Kong guy. What else is in the redemption? Are those the main things? Let me put this to you. You know the overkill achievement in Halo 3? Yes. Did you cheat to get it?
Starting point is 00:57:44 Almost certainly. Like almost without a doubt. Really? Almost undeni you cheat to get it? Almost certainly. Like, almost without a doubt. Really? Like, almost undeniably I would have probably cheated. Wow. Yeah. Like, without a doubt. But I'm not lying about it. That's the difference. Neither am I! But you're one of the best gamers I know. It would be relatively simple for you to get it. I was excited to get it
Starting point is 00:57:59 because I'm me. And an overkill is like a once-a-quarter occurrence to me. I think... I'm trying to remember, because because there was a time I may have gotten that achievement twice. And I think the second time I guess I'll have to check. I'll check my old gamer tag to see if I got it. I think I may have got it legitimately on that one. But the second time I definitely would have cheated. I'm all about efficiency when it comes to achievements.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Who cares about the legitimacy of them? You guys are going to talk about legitimacy when I carried you through countless destiny raids where you literally didn't... That's a weird point for you. We did stuff. We shot guns. We stayed alive so you could...
Starting point is 00:58:36 We did a minor amount of damage. Yeah. Yeah, so you could respawn. We prevented a wipe by standing in a corner. That is true. No, look, I'll give all of Destiny to you, but Halo 3, all me, baby. I will say we did give Gavin an opportunity
Starting point is 00:58:54 to truly redeem himself, because there was like a week when this conversation happened that he could go into Halo 3 and try to get another overkill, legitimately. And as far as I know, he didn't boot it up once. I even recommend that he try that. Yeah, I just don't have a 360 handy.
Starting point is 00:59:10 You don't need one. It's backwards compatible. Oh. Don't need one. Wait, what was the point of getting the 360 then? Uh, I don't know why he did that, but he did it, and I wasn't gonna argue about it, but he just decided to, and I was like, that's fine. I appreciate his effort. I, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Without a doubt. I'll get one. I'll it all right it's already now the servers are down what do you mean but i can kind of go i could get it in master chief collection i don't know if that's the same how's that not the same i don't like it's it's the same i'm not saying the whole reason it was i was impressed the time is that the lone wolves was five Let me clarify my point before you get mad at me further I literally don't know if it's the same like i'm not saying it isn't the same. It's very possible It's like it's emulation, but I don't know if it's yeah, like it's a different engine Like I don't know what the yeah I'm, not sure about the exact conversion of those things or if it's like a different halo engine is what i'm saying If you get it, i'd love to see it
Starting point is 01:00:04 Next week. I want to see an overkill from you and hail on the next engine, is what I'm saying. If you get it, I'd love to see it. Next week, I want to see an overkill from you in Halo, the Master Chief Collection. Next week, damn. I'm not very good at Halo. Get out of here. You're good at Halo. We almost, you fucking... I'm Platinum 1.
Starting point is 01:00:17 The race we did was very competitive. I thought you were going to win, honestly. I got lucky, I think. You say you're platinum one like that doesn't mean something i'm rubble four like platinum one sounds amazing to me gloss three yeah that's behind a paywall oh yeah yeah well i this seems like uh probably a place where we should stop talking now that we did uh we did a pretty good one there i think that's fun oh yeah i liked it did everybody talk about everything they wanted to talk about um i have a thing but it's kind of tied to my email
Starting point is 01:00:56 account so i can't actually discuss it but is is that why you haven't heard back from uh donovan thank god i'm emailing him on my work email. Oh, good. That would be horrendous if it was on my personal. I'd be much more upset about losing that if it was personal. I have a couple things. Well, one of them is pretty long, so we'll get into it at some other point. Yeah, why don't we next time?
Starting point is 01:01:19 Yeah, remind me to talk about the Infinity Pie. That's easy. And then Sonic branding. need to talk about the infinity pie that's easy and then sonic branding uh but i will say uh i assume you guys saw the kids eat free on zim day picture that came out recently yes which is maybe the greatest image i've ever seen in my entire life no are you familiar with this oh let me find it there so i was trying to look into what zim day is from my understanding every every home game in the 82 season was Zim Day.
Starting point is 01:01:46 So I've been meaning to update my calendar to make sure I have every Zim Day listed so I can appropriately celebrate. How many Zim Days in a year? How many home games are there in a baseball season, Jeff? There'd be 82. So there's 82 Zim Days in a year.
Starting point is 01:02:02 How many baseball games in a season total? Double that? 164, I think, yeah. Oh my God. Are you serious? Here, let me put... Yes. Yeah, I'm going to put this in the Discord.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Yeah, they play a lot of baseball. Imagine having a season ticket. I mean, baseball starts... It starts in April and it ends at the end of October. But you could be committing basically every other day of the year. On average. I like that Gavin's perspective of it being difficult the end of october but you'd be committing basically every other day of the year on average i like that gavin's perspective of of it being difficult is from the fans angle not the athlete not that like having to physically participate in that many games he's like how do you have the time
Starting point is 01:02:36 to go watch these things well i mean most of the world are the fans not the players look at that photo gavin don Don Zimmer, chicken wing in one hand, bowl of chicken wing in the other, some popcorn under the elbow. Kids pointing at something shocking. All the kids seem shocked by what's happening,
Starting point is 01:02:58 and Zimmer just couldn't be happier. Giant grin on his face. They're all looking at different shit. Yeah. Also, it's funny to think that those kids are older than us. I wonder if we can
Starting point is 01:03:13 find out who they are and ask what it was like to sit next to them. That's such a good idea. The next mystery to solve. I would have been seven, so these kids are probably in the 10 to 12 range, right? So you could have been one of these kids if you were in the right place. I was a little young,
Starting point is 01:03:30 but yeah, I guess I could have been if I'd have been a Texas Rangers fan back in the day and living in Texas. God, I want some chicken here, though. It's disturbing that I can see his chair, but the kid to the right of him doesn't have one. It kind of has a very like they're in
Starting point is 01:03:47 heaven vibe which is not what you want to go for it feels like dayfall this is zimmer in heaven right now eating chicken wings laughing at gavin breaking his apple 2 remote covering himself that kid is pointing at the hole that Gavin just created in the bottom. Can you believe he just broke his bed down too? We should make sure that's side by side in the Instagram post. I love the idea that somewhere in heaven, Don Zimmer is sitting on white bleachers with a bunch of little kids eating chicken wings and just watching Gavin
Starting point is 01:04:26 go through life laughing and pointing at every interesting thing that happens he ordered another record of the Zimmer never mind it was such a good setup and I just fucked I sucked end the show no
Starting point is 01:04:41 no I crashed the plane I went nose first I missed the runway it's over there's no recovering from that i yelled the wrong name i forgot what a record was called i did roll i've crashed several times there's no recovery i'm just dead i'm dead oh cover that variety all right all right Uh, cover that, f***iety. Alright. Alright. What? Why? Why?
Starting point is 01:05:13 Why is that in the message? Cover it. Oh. I don't know. I just made the war on media. I'm mad at them. I like it. You just died on air.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Comedy just died. That bit just died on air. I feel died. That bit just died on air. I feel like it should get some media coverage. Between that and trying for five straight minutes to kill. All right. Like and subscribe. Wait, we're not done? I just stopped recording.
Starting point is 01:05:39 What? What do you mean we're not done? No, we're done. Yeah, we're done now. Hey there. It's minor league fan Jack here with a look at next week's episode of face the boys head to bojangles coliseum andrew loves happy meals the guys discuss meal hacks the knob versus handle discussion returns and once again andrew does not eat the pencil all that and more on next week's episode of F*** Face.

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