Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S01 EP29: Romesh Ranganathan

Episode Date: August 4, 2020

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL' - S01 EP29: Romesh RanganathanJoining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) during the lock down... and beyond is the brilliant comedian and presenter, Romesh Ranganathan. Find out more about the great range of school uniform available from F&F at Tesco here: https://bit.ly/BackToSchoolPC Available in selected larger stores. Subject to availability. Excludes Next.Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks. xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.ukTWITTER: @lockdownparent INSTAGRAM: @lockdown_parenting(And the NikNak account is @penrosehouse #niknaksafety)A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:41 Visit Tresemme.com to learn more. and smooth weightless collection. Visit Tresemme.com to learn more. Hello, I'm Josh Whitacombe. And I'm Rob Beckett. Welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hell, the show in which Rob and I discuss what it's like to be a parent during lockdown, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, in an effort to make some kind of sense of the current situation... And to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills... Each episode we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you, the listener, with your tales of lockdown parenting woe.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Because, let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing. Hello and welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hell with... Josh Whitaker. And... Bob Beckett. That's two different children, Rob. I was going to say, I just thought one of them had a spliff for the second word. For the second name.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Very much more chilled vibe for the Rob Beckett, wasn't it? Yeah, well, that is three-year-old Thomas, who is the chilled one, and six-year-old Charlie. Yeah. And I had to ask Thomas a few times, as he wouldn't stop screaming, no, Simpsons at at me to begin with, because I was interrupting his YouTube video, but eventually he gave in.
Starting point is 00:02:08 We clocked it. He wanted to get it over and done with so he could watch YouTube again. Couldn't he? Exactly. Exactly. He's not into the podcast. He's not into the podcast. Give him time.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Give him time. He'll be listening back to this one day. He will. He'll find it. He'll find it when he's got kids and he'll regret that. How are you, Rob? That was his moment. I'm all right, mate. I'm not too bad. Did I tell you about the best day ever? Did I talk about that last week?
Starting point is 00:02:30 No. The best day ever. Doesn't sound like something I want to hear about, but carry on. Okay. So I, we speak a lot, don't we? About like you quite, you basically started this podcast because I was having a worse time than you. Yeah. That's how it works. Anyway, I had a day the other day, I had the kids all day. Lou was going out because I'd been working a lot. a lot I said look you just go out for the whole day on Saturday and I'll sort the kids out yeah so basically right she went out for the day
Starting point is 00:02:53 and uh I got up with the kids even though I'd worked the night before and normally I don't that's normally the vibe if I'm working late I got up with the kids okay like 6am then um she went out for the day I took them out for lunch to a little cafe. Then we went to the park, played in the park. Then we fed some ducks, not even bread, actual bird seed feed, like some little guardian nerd because that's what you have to feed them, right? Then I thought I'll go home and just chill in the garden or something. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I took a four-year-old and a two-year-old to the shops for the weekly shop. That's right. That's right. Full trolley. Full trolley. Big shop. Big shop. They were both out of the trolley.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah, sure. I reckon I spent 40 quid on stuff I didn't want or need. But if it keeps them quiet, them chucking stuff in, slam dunking it in like basketball. So I did a full shop. Yeah. Anyway, I got them home
Starting point is 00:03:44 and then I set up this new playmobil toy and played with them for a bit actually you know interacted with them rather than keeping them busy while i did my own life i played with them and then i tidied up the hole downstairs loaded the dishwasher i cleaned out the hamster cage and then roasted a fucking chicken no yes please yeah what happened why i don't know. How did you do this? You just. I just, I just woke up high on life. And also, well, basically I was going to take him out for lunch, break up the day. And then I was out and I thought we do need shopping. And I thought I can either go home and it'd be stressful and not productive or try and be
Starting point is 00:04:19 productive, even though if it's awful, at least I've done that job. Take me through how the shopping went. Did you not put one of them in the trolley like in that little awful little seat bit in the trolley so the little one doesn't want to do that because she's a big girl and then the big girl does because she wants to try and be a little girl for attention but then realizes it's rubbish so she sits in it for about two seconds she's too tall and big for it she stiffs her legs it's like trying to get a like a dead body out of it she can't't move her. Obviously, I promised them sweets, an ice cream, and a magazine. Yeah, the big three. Initial negotiation.
Starting point is 00:04:52 So that was your negotiating point. That wasn't even where they got you to. That was your initial... Oh, initial. But then I worked out magazines are well expensive, so I actually got them a toy because it was cheaper than a magazine. Like a little four-quid toy. Anyway, so I did all that. And then it was bad, though, because that was how than a magazine. Like a little four quid toy. Anyway, so I did all that.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And then it was bad though because that was how successful my day was. And then in the shop, the four-year-old was loving it. She was like trying to help. And then she went, do we need lemons and an orange? And I was like, no, we don't need them. Don't worry. We don't need those today.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And we got home. And then because I thought, I'm going to roast this chicken now. I went, ah, I need to stick an orange and a lemon up its ass or it's going to be dry. Because that's the vibe. I don't know if you roast a chicken. I took the Alison Hammond approach, all-purpose seasoning.
Starting point is 00:05:30 APS all over it. It's an absolute, it's outrageously good. I can't believe, I've lived this life. But I've got a bit of a curveball. They didn't have all-purpose seasoning, but they did have everyday seasoning. I don't know what the difference i don't know if all purpose is a little bit more punchy you couldn't have it seven days a
Starting point is 00:05:49 week yeah every day seems like it i don't i don't know if it's every day seasoning that feels like that feels to me like you're gonna get bored of it you're gonna you're what's gonna happen if you're doing it every day is you're gonna slightly just up the amount yes every day until you're absolutely going for it on the seasoning just to get any kind of hit out of it at all i would argue everyday seasoning it's salt and pepper that would be my point in the marketing meeting everyday season sort of pepper that's the new vibe anyway um so i didn't i said to her no we don't need that and i was a little bit forceful so i apologize because i was like anyway we got home and i said out loud,
Starting point is 00:06:25 oh, I need an orange and lemon here. And then she went, you forgot the lemon, I said. Do you want? And I was like, oh, my God, I've got a four-year-old wife. She's turned into Lou. And then the whole day she just went, you forgot the lemon, didn't you? Just bullied me about this, like, negging me about this lemon. And then when Lou got home, I was like, oh, you had a good day, girls.
Starting point is 00:06:44 And all the stuff that's happened ducks lunch out to the shops got a toy all this daddy forgot the lemon even on my best day even on your best day you'll forget a lemon how smug were you when you took Lou through everything you'd achieved in the day oh unbearably I that's why I was going through my phone I I wrote it all pathetically wrote it all down. Also, oh yeah, I forgot. I did an exercise cycle. I did a spin class in the morning as well.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Where were the kids doing that? So basically, I waited for Lou to get up and she was having a coffee while they were watching telly, banged out a 40-minute peloton class. Oh my word. You're like Erin Brockovich or something. Like this great single mum who's just getting everything achieved. And I also did take my local council as a call. but I don't want to bring it up until the proceedings are finished but yeah that was my I was just so proud of myself I mean you know like I don't know I feel
Starting point is 00:07:34 I'm being smug now people listen to this to hear stories that make themselves feel bad but sometimes you've got to give yourself a pat on the back Josh so let's be clear when it comes to shipping internationally can I provide trade documents electronically the answer is FedEx okay but what about estimating duties and taxes on my shipments how do I find all also FedEx impressive is there a regulatory specialist I can ask about FedEx oh but let's say that FedEx what FedEx thanks no. But let's say that... FedEx. What? FedEx. Thanks. No more questions.
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Starting point is 00:08:31 It's not cup food, it's good food in a cup. Visit Knorr.com to learn more. I had quite an achievement. I achieved yesterday. I was quite pleased with this. Oh, yeah. Well, I basically managed to get in a position where I just couldn't I achieved yesterday I was quite pleased with this oh yeah well I basically managed to get in a position where I just couldn't believe how lucky I was in that so our toy shop
Starting point is 00:08:50 now because of um covid you have to kind of book an appointment like all right so when you go to the toy shop and they're worried about catching a profit so you get your 15 you walk around the toy shop it's like you know like when like elton john gets to walk around a shop on his own yeah it's like michael jackson went shopping with um yeah exactly it's like that so you get the whole shop yourself for 15 minutes so we went there and we bought our impulse buy got a like canvas kind of wendy house oh okay that's like a cup basically like a big kind of tent you put up in the garden she can go in and out of it and then on the way home went
Starting point is 00:09:31 past a second hand bookstall and they had they had the full collection of where's wally's and i thought what even though she's only two and a half i'm getting them just because i want to kind of that's great reread them. Tough to find, they are. Tough to... Really nice. Really nice. Lovely stuff. Anyway, we get back. She's going in and out of the Wendy house and the Where's Wally's are in the Wendy house.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Then she instructs me that I'm to sit and wait in the Wendy house while she plays outside it. So I spent half an hour of my afternoon just on my own in the Wendy house reading Where's Wally and it was absolutely superb readings are stretching looking at searching through the way so it's just like i've been instructed to sit on my own in the wendy house with only the where's wally's for company yeah it was like being you know like being locked in in the crystal maze or whatever but with the amazing it was so good so you're technically playing you're doing a shift with the kid this is parenting i do find i
Starting point is 00:10:29 um i uh buy my kids presents and toys that i want yeah that i wanted as a kid like they want to go yeah what about what about this let's get that let's get that back to the future playmobil set you've got no idea what that film is you're're only a character. You'd much prefer a Trolls one, but let's get that. Come on. But that's a lovely afternoon. Yeah, it was a really nice afternoon. I had a very pleasant time. Found Wally.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Well, if this is too positive, let's tease ahead for a story I'm going to tell on Friday where I tried to have a shit and I got interrupted nine times in nine different ways. Oh my God. Well, what we need to do,
Starting point is 00:11:04 I'll say this to the producer now as a kind of, we want those ding sound effects, you know, when it's like counting up an amount of things on a clip. It may be more, it may be one less, but, yeah, I'll go through all the different reasons of why I had to interrupt my shit. It was almost like a Dom Jolly prank, the amount of things turning up. But, yeah, so that's a less positive story that you can all look forward to. Now, today, Rob, we've got a friend of Prince William on the show.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Well, we've got what a weekend our guest has had. I mean, it's absolutely unbelievable. He won a BAFTA on Friday. Overrated. Oh, the old stiff neck awards, yeah. He won a BAFTA. It's a Romesh Ranganathan, I guess, won a BAFTA. Itfta is misadventures show yeah i'm not against baftas josh if people if it means a lot to people that's good for them but i just i i just if that's how you're judging success then you need to have a
Starting point is 00:11:53 long hard look in the mirror if you ask me rob yeah i'd say if winning a bafta makes you happy go and see a therapist if it makes you sad go and see a therapist. If you're nonplussed and think, oh, that's a good positive thing, you're all right. But if you cried, either happy or sad tears, sort your priorities out, all right? But it's an amazing achievement,
Starting point is 00:12:20 and it's great, and I'm very happy for Ramesh. Good on him. But then also, he watched the FA Cup final with Prince William. He popped up on the then also, he watched the FA Cup final with Prince William. He popped up on the telly on BBC One during the Cup final. I mean, that is for a mental health charity,
Starting point is 00:12:32 but that's got to be a dry afternoon, isn't it? That's tough. It was such a strange image of Romesh on a deck chair. In my mind, he's on a deck chair. Yeah. In the garden of Kensington Palace with Prince William. What are they talking about? They weren't just them two, like some sort of love island date.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I think Romesh is an ambassador for the charity. So there was all people from the charity there and stuff. But, you know, good on him. Good on him. It's a tough afternoon. I mean, you can't relax, can you? And also, this was recorded before we realised he was best friends with Prince William.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Otherwise, we'd have obviously asked him all about that yeah of course this has done before also little bit odd i hosted the royal variety with romesh in front of prince william i didn't get an invite to little garden party did i so he's obviously knows he's got a favorite but let's not get bogged down by that it was romesh prince william and tony adams it's strange that tony adams is the next name as well yeah the next name on the list after you, Rob, is... Well, if we're not getting Romesh and Rob, we should get Romesh and Tony Adams. That's the obvious duo.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Let's be honest about this. No offence to me, Tony Adams or Romesh, Prince William doesn't know or care or give a shit who's there. He just turns up, he shakes her hand, smiles, has a photo and then cracks on with his date. I doubt Prince William has much of a say who is there and who's not
Starting point is 00:13:49 don't you think no he's a huge fan of uh he actually is a huge fan of the Ranga Nation Prince William and he's um going to be one of the
Starting point is 00:13:56 members of the Ranga Nation in the next series is that I wouldn't rule out Prince Andrew being it in the next series um so um
Starting point is 00:14:04 it's a pleasure to speak to Romesh. It was genuinely, I think it might be the most we've laughed in an interview we've done for this. Yeah, he sort of went off the topic of parenting and went on a bit more about Fortnite and Andy Peters. Yeah, it's just nice to catch up with friends when they're not hobnobbing, isn't it? Yeah, but it's hard for me to get any time with Romesh now.
Starting point is 00:14:26 He's off with Prince William and stuff like that. I'm very much the horn to his cordon. But, you know, I'm happy with that. Do you know what I mean? I'll take that. He's had a good career in the old horny, so. Here we go. This is Sir.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I imagine it's going to be Sir very soon. Oh, yeah. Oh, you'll love that. Sir Romesh. Get in there love that. Sir Romesh. Get in there, boy. Sir Romesh Ranganathan. Hello, Romesh. Thank you for doing the podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:52 How are you doing? I'm very good, Rob. Thanks very much for having me. Hello, Josh. Hello. How are you? That's quite formal, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:00 We've never met before. No, absolutely. Yeah, Romesh, you little prick. Give us half an hour of good stuff about your kids so we can fuck off and put it online
Starting point is 00:15:08 hello you fucker you pair of cunts how's it going okay man let's cut to the chase we've got stuff to do later churn out some stuff about your kids
Starting point is 00:15:16 we'll crack on which one's the arsehole well just in case no one's aware of your set up Romesh, I mean, with children, not Mike-wise,
Starting point is 00:15:28 what is the situation? I've got three boys, 10, 8 and 5, and I'm using a blue Yeti, Mike, if that's a setup you want to know about. Yeah. So 8, 10 and 5, you live in Crawley. I live in Crawley with my wife yes and the children yeah and i and to give you an idea of how that's going i'm currently talking to you from my garage how's not found been though because i spoke to you about it a bit wrong but like you
Starting point is 00:16:00 i work a lot robert josh works like you work loads and has a lot of travel involved in what you do misadventures and stuff how's it been for you not to be working as much and be indoors all this time i don't i don't think i don't think it's been good for lisa and the kids because i think when i've been away with work and sort of come back every now and again what they thought is oh it'd be great to see more of that and what's happened is they've now had more of that delivered and they're not keen yeah because because the truth is is that you know this whole time Lisa's sort of saying to me oh you know it'd be nice if you were you were home a bit more and I sort of thought I'm going to manage that a bit when lockdown started i was very philosophical about it you know i was thinking oh this is
Starting point is 00:16:48 actually the silver line to all this is that you know we're going to spend more quality time together and it's going to be a wonderful time for us to get to know each other maybe do you know what maybe i'll uh maybe i'll sort of stream back work you know pull back on work a little bit and sort of use this as an opportunity to really rethink things. Now, I am looking for any travel show anywhere and anywhere. Honestly, I am ready. Because it would be good for you to be on our TV a bit more, actually, Rob.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Rob, you should start hosting that Escape to the Sun. You know what she's like, right? Where do those presenters come from? It's a different one, isn't it? It's insane. It is insane. I think they just go around bars or whatever, find someone who looks a little bit lively.
Starting point is 00:17:29 You could do that thing on This Morning when they do a prize giveaway that's in a holiday. There'll be you walking along a beach. You just walk around one day of your holiday and film some little links. Yes, please. That sounds ideal. Joe Swash does loads of them.
Starting point is 00:17:43 He loves it. He just goes to the Maldives for about nine hours and then flies home so is it literally are you literally there for the day I think you stay
Starting point is 00:17:51 for a couple of nights but then what they try and do is whenever I spoke to people that do it like Andy Peters and Joe Swash they're like
Starting point is 00:17:56 yeah but it's actually quite hard work because you're there and you're just having to walk along the beach like eight loads of times and you're like oh shut up
Starting point is 00:18:02 it's absolutely fine what I would what I would do to sit in on a conversation between Rob Beckett Joe Swash and Andy Peters what chain of world events
Starting point is 00:18:16 have happened to lead those three people to be in a room in direct conversation with each other it was genuinely the worst news night I've ever seen
Starting point is 00:18:23 did you think did you think question time was a bit lowbrow this week with each other. It was genuinely the worst news night I've ever seen. Did you think Question Time was a bit lowbrow this week? Do you know who else was there as well? Bobby Cole Norrish
Starting point is 00:18:34 from TOWIE. Do you want me to set the scene? Because obviously we get me out of it now. We've gone back to the hotel for a couple
Starting point is 00:18:42 of cosmopolitans all sat around the pool. Yeah, just ITV viewers wanking themselves into a frenzy at the sight of what's happened. It's like the... Piers Morgan standing over us, just squeezing milk from his tits. We've got Ant and Dektaeus in our arse. Let's go!
Starting point is 00:19:02 We've got hand and deck titles on our arse Let's go What a day that was What a day Yeah Holy shit I was just going to tell you a little fact about Andy Peters
Starting point is 00:19:14 never takes his top off even in hot weather even though he's ripped He's absolutely Really? Yeah he's stacked Has he ever given you a reason for that?
Starting point is 00:19:22 I don't suppose you'd ask the question directly Andy Peters I've only ever seen wearing a skin for that? I don't suppose you'd ask the question directly. Andy Peters, I've only ever seen, wearing a skin-tight polo shirt, shorts, big, thick Jerry Seinfeld trainers, and socks, pulled up like mid-level, whatever's happening.
Starting point is 00:19:35 If he's in his garage on telly for ITV, or if he's in Australia, that's his outfit. He's got a kind of Carlton vibe, hasn't he, I think? Yeah. Kind of a preppy look. Yeah. Good guy. He's got a tattoo of Carlton vibe, hasn't he, I think. Yeah. Kind of a preppy look. Yeah. Good guy. He's got a tattoo of Ed the Duck on his stomach
Starting point is 00:19:49 that he can't let anyone see that he can't. Yeah. It says Duck Life across the top of it. So I went to the same... I know this isn't why we're here, but I did used to go to the same gym as Andy Peters on a Friday morning. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Because it was next to... This is like real life Stella Street. This is insane. Craig Fairbrass goes to my gym. You know, Dan from EastEnders. But it's not a game of gym buddy who's who. Anyway, Rom, it's been great to speak to you about your kids
Starting point is 00:20:25 and I'll see you later talk us through Andy Peters at the gym Josh right so it's because obviously I do last
Starting point is 00:20:32 we do last leg in the same building that they do it's not called GMTV what's it called these days Good Morning Britain right yeah
Starting point is 00:20:39 so he'd finish Good Morning Britain go to that gym that's next to the BBC and I'd be just I'd go before last leg. So we'd cross over. He's absolutely ripped.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Doing those big, old, so those big, old, um, weights. The hack-hunning. The hack-hunning. Oh, my God. The big ones, you know, the big ones. How often did you go to this gym, Josh? Not frequently enough to pick up the technical jargon, no?
Starting point is 00:21:15 You couldn't pick up the jargon, let alone the weights, mate. Anyway, he's doing the big old weights. Doing the big old weights. Doing the big old ways. Absolute ripped in a vest. And we had that thing where we'd never met, but I was aware of his work. I don't know whether he was aware of mine, but we'd acknowledge each other at a base level, should I say.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Did you think about trying to start up a conversation? Hey, man, what are those things you're lifting up and putting down repeatedly? What are they called? Why are you moving that bench? I normally sit on. A narrow bench. Oh, so that's not for sandwiches then?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Oh, okay. Oh, I was doing the... I thought you just limboed. I limboed. But he's ripped The bottom line of the story is Andy Pease is ripped He is ripped
Starting point is 00:22:09 I know We should get him to the podcast Has he got kids? Who knows Has he got kids? We'll ask We'll try and get him on I don't know
Starting point is 00:22:14 We'll get him on Just to ask We'll take his top off It'll be a strange interview I would love To just randomly come up On a podcast Where people just talk
Starting point is 00:22:21 About how ripped I am That would be So Can you imagine If you just happen to be Listening to a podcast And then you talk about how ripped I am that would be so can you imagine if you just happen to be listening to a podcast and then you get mentioned it's just
Starting point is 00:22:29 oh he's fucking he's so ripped he is so rich and then people go oh I heard someone talking about you on that podcast it's never that is it
Starting point is 00:22:39 it's never that what they say what they say oh you're ripped yeah yeah they were yeah they were. Yeah, they were. Pow!
Starting point is 00:22:48 Right, Romesh, you've got three kids. Three boys. Three boys. Sorry, yes. Three boys. No, it's fine. It's fine. Are any of them fans of Andy Peters?
Starting point is 00:22:56 No, they're not. No. They might be. I haven't asked them. I haven't asked them. What are they into? Well, what they are into, which has come to the fore during lockdown, is Fortnite, which is this Battle Royale online video game
Starting point is 00:23:13 that we cannot stop them playing. And we went out for dinner with this couple a few, maybe like two years ago, and they were talking about how one of their kids was addicted to fortnight right and they were saying oh it's just a nightmare he won't he won't get off it and we said to him we want you to just stop playing fortnight for a day or whatever and he kicked off and and lisa and i was so smug like we we sat there we sat there going oh yeah no that's difficult isn't it when they get into that and you know when you do that thing on the drive home we were going
Starting point is 00:23:44 oh isn't it it's a shame isn't it when people allow that because i think what's good what's good about us is we're very clear on the rules and it sounds far too sounds far too violent for our children to play doesn't it yeah no i'm glad i'm glad we've stuck firm with that cut to now i've got kids talking about assault rifles for like nine hours a day in my house the five-year-old talking about i'm gonna get that rocket launcher i mean it's it's insane and it crept into our lives because the our eldest son who's probably the most i mean you know not just i would i would say it's over and above the fact that he's that he's the eldest i think he's more sensible than the
Starting point is 00:24:21 other two just generally he's kind of got that vibe vibe about him. And he came and spoke to us and he did it properly. You know, he had supporting arguments. Yeah, he did. He properly did. He said, can I have a chat with you guys about something? So, yeah. And he talked us through how his friends play Fortnite. It's a social thing.
Starting point is 00:24:41 He won't get too carried away with it. Would it be okay for him to be allowed to play fortnight and lisa and i just wallowing in the pride in what our son had done just disgusting kind of just isn't it god we really do you know sometimes i kind of can't believe what a good job we've done with him you're like you sound like the government. You sound like the government when coronavirus was sneaking up. We're doing pretty well here, aren't we? Yeah. Honestly, it was so sickening how proud of ourselves we were.
Starting point is 00:25:12 You know, for him to come and talk to us like that. Anyway, so we allowed him to do it. But the problem is, and this is the common thing that we keep coming up with, is the idea that you can allow one of your children to do something, regardless of age gap, and completely compartmentalize that from the others is a fantasy. It's an absolute fantasy. So as soon as he started playing it,
Starting point is 00:25:33 our second son is like, can I, is it possible to play? Now he'd show, he provided no supporting arguments. If anything, his behavior up to that point had been a series of counter arguments to letting him anywhere near Fortnite, right? But regardless of of that we didn't want to be unfair so we said all right look let's and we had all these bullshit rules as well can we just say that you're going to play for one and a half hours a day maximum and listen and listen when we say it's time to
Starting point is 00:26:01 come off you come off there's no arguments and they went yeah no that sounds fair that's absolutely the way we do it and so like mugs fucking mugs we went yeah okay
Starting point is 00:26:13 and then once you've done two how can you look at your little your youngest son and stop him from from engaging it so then so what's it on is it on Xbox
Starting point is 00:26:21 that's the problem Josh it's on everything mate it is on everything it's on? Is it on Xbox? That's the problem, Josh. It's on everything. Mate, it is on everything. It's on PlayStation. It's on Xbox. It's on mobile phone. I'm pretty sure you can play it on a fucking water bottle if you want to.
Starting point is 00:26:34 They have extended that game everywhere. There is no format that that game hasn't reached. It's insane, man. And when you look on YouTube youtube there's loads of videos there's loads of videos that's that i mean that's the other side of it is the youtubers that have been spawned by fortnite my children if they are not playing fortnite they are watching video youtube videos of people playing fortnite and attaching drama to a series of completely inconsequential events that are happening in front of them on the game i mean it is so could you explain fortnight to me yes
Starting point is 00:27:11 yeah so so so what it is is have you played rob i i can't i i find fortnight quite hard but i play the same style of game but with call of duty war zone which is like right real like is it like a simulation of a war zone where fortnite sucks sort of like colorful characters and mad like mad stuff isn't it and then you have to build is it like doom like a modern version of doom well well you basically you you drop you drop you drop you drop down onto an island and um you find weapons and there are there are 99 other people on that island, you know, other characters, all these other players, and you have to be the last one standing.
Starting point is 00:27:50 That's the aim of the game. But you can also do it as squads. So you can team up with a couple of mates and there's a social element to it. So, and the thing that makes it more addictive, because there's lots of games like that, the thing that makes it more addictive is there's loads of these different skins you can play as you know they've got like you can play as spot uh deadpool you can play as aquaman like they and
Starting point is 00:28:13 they put these skins on the shop and the the the shop has these skins for a limited amount of time oh so so they've got you over a barrel mate how. How much are you spending? Mate, I don't, I don't even want to think about it. I mean, every day, every other day, I would say, that's not an over, that's not an exaggeration. One of the kids comes up to us and tells us about a new skin that's been released, it's available for only 24 hours and they absolutely have to have it. And you end up, and you end up paying 20 quid
Starting point is 00:28:43 and they go, look at the skin I've chosen and they're playing as a hot dog. And I'm supposed to be... And I'm supposed to be happy about that. It is just a money pit though, those sort of things. No, but the thing is, this is a crazy thing, right? So the kids are trying to legitimise it to me. They're trying to explain it to me that it's a serious thing and people and they do do these events and stuff and
Starting point is 00:29:08 it is you know it's proper top level stuff that if you get to the top level of fortnight right you can play like proper tournaments the top people the prize money is three million dollars right some like one of these tournaments they're not playing as a fucking hot dog mate absolutely not imagine trying to camouflage that where would you go in the woods as a hot dog that's three million
Starting point is 00:29:30 I spend the whole game behind the kiosk it's the only place I can get any cover I got home drunk once and turned on Sky Sports and they were they were broadcasting
Starting point is 00:29:43 the FIFA World Cup not the FIFA World Cup as in the FIFA World Cup, the World Cup of FIFA, the game. And these people are, A, they're weird, but B, they're existing in a different reality where the game, the way they were playing FIFA wasn't, I couldn't even comprehend how different their ability to play computer games was.
Starting point is 00:30:04 So I'm going gonna say it wrong your kids aren't gonna get there no absolutely 100 not because and i hope they don't because if they if they do get to that top level that also suggests a severe level of dysfunctionality in sort of their general makeup i want them to be i want them to be too normal to ascend to the very heights of fortnite don't you just think it's a generational thing because when i was younger the thing we used to sit indoors on msm messenger do you remember msm messenger yeah and talk to each other like that where my parents would be like oh we didn't even have a phone in the house you have to go walk down the street to use a phone and all stuff like that so they think it's mad that you'd just be able to message someone or text and on msm messenger
Starting point is 00:30:41 but to be fair the majority is socializing because you're you're you are you are in a squad with your three or four mates chatting to them and stuff like that and it's you know no difference what we're doing now but they're playing a game at the same time the issue is them just rinsing money out of you to get these different skins but it is just a form of socializing that feels weird to us but that's just the future isn't it is that not just the future yeah but you know what rob that you know what what you've just said sounds exactly like what lisa and i say to each other late at night try and make us feel better about the fact that we've let the situation get away from us massively so it's not just they play it they're doing whatever they want well do you
Starting point is 00:31:19 know what it's the thing is is that you've got to take into context the fact that we are in a weird situation they're not seeing any of their mates right and all that and so and so they do when they're playing this game they are chatting to each other and they are and they are in like you know it's their way of like going down the pub do you know what i mean they're chatting to each other and it's good you do see that sounds like a snack yeah exactly exactly they do you know but the thing that's the other thing it's not even just the out it's not even just the characters. They have different dances called emotes, right? And you have to pay for those.
Starting point is 00:31:51 So, like, honestly, honestly, I had to pay 10 quid, right, for one of my kids to have a character that just went, call me. That's literally, and they're buzzing about it. Absolutely buzzing about it absolutely buzzing about it isn't your youngest five though can he play it's quite impressive he can play fortnite five in it mate mate honestly he's been playing on the mobile right he's been playing on the phone the kid is fucking insane right like honestly he is so good right and he'll be just chatting to
Starting point is 00:32:24 i mean you've seen him rob he's like you know he's like a proper he's small for a five-year-old as well do you mean his little diddy kid and then he'll be like yeah yeah and he's just like this and he'd be honestly he'll be talking to me while he's doing it and i'm watching what he's doing on the phone and he go dad i'll come and get dinner in a minute while he said that he's killed three people like like it is it is insane why don't you it's three million quids up for grabs train them like the williams sisters the richard williams of fortnight just get screens up we go right let's fuck off school this all day right and get better and we'll earn if you said that
Starting point is 00:33:01 to a 12 year old kid that's the dream that'd be like i had the best ever last night. My dad had decked out the spare room, all the screens, and went, get as good as you can, we're going to earn millions. That's like the start of a film. Yeah, that's such an old-school Asian way of dealing with the situation. I've always been called that, actually, the way I'm called. I'm Rebecca, the old-school Asian with the teeth. Yeah, that's the guy. If you're going to play Fortnite,
Starting point is 00:33:23 you're going to be the best fucking Fortnite player in the world. Amazing. Do you know what? The thing was is that because we had been struggling to get him off it, we decided to start, Lisa and I were like,
Starting point is 00:33:37 we've got to find a way of engaging with this. So Lisa and I are both now on Fortnite. Huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What, just to talk to your kids
Starting point is 00:33:46 no no well it's just because we was you know like are you a vegan hot dog can I tell you something I have
Starting point is 00:33:54 got the hot dog oh you murderer meat is murder I love the idea of Romesh doing a big TV job and treating himself to the hot dog
Starting point is 00:34:04 as a kind of I made a bit of money yeah just coming back from the League of Romesh doing a big TV job and treating himself to the hot dog as a kind of I made a bit of money just coming back from the League of Their Own record just going, Elisa, get the console set up online I'm about to treat myself you thought a hot dog was scary try a hot dog with fries, motherfucker
Starting point is 00:34:20 and not only that, it's going to be able to dance how do you like that shit? call me And not only that, it's going to be able to dance. How do you like that shit? Call me. So you play with them now as well, and Lisa? Well, we started because we thought, actually, it's quite a good thing. They're really into it. Let's try and engage them by playing it as well.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Lisa's absolute shit, which is great for me. Because whenever we play these squad games, straight away, headshot, she's gone. And then, so, but the thing is... Are you in a squad with your kids? Yeah. Like a family outing, family day out. Yeah, yeah. So we're in a squad. Today, we're going to kill as many people as we can.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Brian, get Nathan's day of fun and stuff like that. I mean, like, but the thing is, the kids, they get really frustrated. If you watch kids playing fortnight they get so angry with each other if they let the team down you know if they if they fuck it up or whatever and they're gonna lose as a result of their they shout at each other but they all accept it from each other right because that's how you play the game what i wasn't prepared for right was the way that i was going to be spoken to by my own children
Starting point is 00:35:25 oh when we're playing it because we get into the game right now first of all i don't really i kind of stay away from the action i'm very much hide and then when enough people have died come out and see if i can pick off a couple of yeah why would you why would you go on the attack if there's don't doesn't everyone just kill each other and you're just well that josh thank you so i wish you could come round to my house and explain this to the children because they say that's classic noob behaviour. Can I call you that now?
Starting point is 00:35:52 Camping pussies. That's what you are. You're a pair of camping little rats. Oh, I'm going to hide here until the old... Go out and bring it. Bring the victory to you, you fucking losers. Camping little rats. I'm on the kids' side here, Rob.
Starting point is 00:36:05 That was like Rob had channeled our second son. But then, when I come out, the kids are like, Dad, Dad, you've got to resurrect me. Res me, res me. I'm over there. Dad, for God's sake, Dad. For God's, Dad. Dad.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Oh my God. Oh my God, we could have won that. Just like that, just listening to the proper loser. And when the game finishes and it's like they never spoke like that to you because they're just in the moment. They're just in the moment. For them, in day to day life, you're in a position of confidence, of power,
Starting point is 00:36:41 of authority, of intelligence. You've got more experience than them. But in the Fortnite world, you're about, you're like a one-year-old. You're rubbish. So it's such a weird power shift that all of a sudden you're the weak link in it all, not the person holding it together
Starting point is 00:36:54 like you would in the real world. Yeah, I mean, they're like my parents because they'll go like, oh, Dad, I left some bandages over there by that house for you. Go and pick them up when you're ready and stuff like that. It's so weird. There's an armour plate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:09 It's like that. It's like that. Dad, I left a rocket launcher there. You can have it. You can have the rocket launcher, Dad. With the buying stuff, though, if you take them on a day out, though, you can spend 40 quid on drinks and snacks
Starting point is 00:37:19 and ice creams over a day, right? And then they might not eat the ice cream, they'll fry it on the floor. And because in our heads, we understand that's an ice cream, it's a product, you're going then they might not eat the ice cream, the fry on the floor. And because in our heads, we understand that's an ice cream, it's a product, you're going to eat it or fill them up. But if you buy them like a 10 quid skin or something that they're happy with for the whole day,
Starting point is 00:37:33 because it's on the computer, you think, oh, that's nonsense, it doesn't exist. But for the kids, because that's how they've lived, it does exist and it is a thing that they can enjoy. But because we're older, we don't see it as a physical item.
Starting point is 00:37:43 That's what happens with phones. You buy an app and it'll say it's 2.99 and you're like are you fucking kidding me 2.99 to read the news every day for a year and you think i made a money and then you buy a pint and it's four pound fifty and you don't think anything of it it is incredible how for some reason spending money on an app to me an absolute rip-off merchant so i'm just gonna anyone i'll pop on the phone i'm just gonna stick my yeezys on like the the complete disparity of what you think is is you being mugged off it's just insane but the other thing is the other thing is i just think as parents we have an inherent distrust for anything our kids enjoy too much so it's like because you know before even I knew that them playing video
Starting point is 00:38:32 before I'd even got any idea if them being on an iPad was good or bad for them whatever immediately I'm thinking it must be bad for them because they're sort of enjoying it yeah like they want to spend more time on it there must be so it must be rotting their brain somewhere you just have this thing where if your kids as soon as they start to like a on it. It must be rotting their brains. You just have this thing where if your kids, as soon as they start to like a food too much, oh, that must be, there must be something in that. You can't have that much cucumber. No, no, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Turn into a bloody cucumber. Yeah, it's so, you do get like that. You just start, if they're into it, there must be something bad about it. It's crazy. That's the thing with the apps. Like, you know, you buy like, you know, a pair of nice trainers or whatever,
Starting point is 00:39:04 but you're like 69p. So I can find out what the weather's the thing with the apps. Like, you know, you buy like, you know, a pair of nice trainers or whatever, but you're like, 69p, so I can find out what the weather's like everywhere in the world. Are you mad? Ridiculous, 69p. I'd much rather download a free one that only works 30% of the time. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And save myself the money. Yeah, I'll just look out the window. Sorry if I'm old school. DQ presents... Picture this. Picture a freezer, Sorry if I'm old school. two of your favorite treats, delectable rollo and legendary brownie batter. Back for its 20th anniversary. But it won't be open for long. So hurry in and get these flavors before the DQ freezer closes. And keep your eyes open. You never know what may come out of the DQ freezer next.
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Starting point is 00:40:21 Nah, it's like Coca-Cola with a refreshing burst of raspberry and spiced flavors. Yeah. Try new Coca-Cola Spiced today. So are your kids back at school, Rom? So our younger two are not. Our eldest one is in year six, so this is his last year at primary school before he goes off to secondary in September. So they have made a bit more of a...
Starting point is 00:40:40 They've made a thing about bringing them back for the last couple of weeks. They haven't really done any work, I don't think, but it's a bit more for the, for the social, shirt signing and all that and the Leavers hoodies and all that crap.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Can we talk about the secondary school he's going to, Rob? Which is quite interesting. Well, Rob, you say interesting, I know where you're going with this. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:59 If you consider that Romesh is a success, right, and he's done really well for himself and his life's all going well, but if you just... I'm willing to accept that for the argument. Yeah, right? And he's done really well for himself and his life's all going well. But if you just... I'm willing to accept that for the argument. Yeah, go on.
Starting point is 00:41:08 For playing devil's advocate. Thank you so much for swallowing that hypothesis, Josh. Romesh is a huge success, okay? Anyway, so Romesh, his son, is going to the secondary school that Romesh went to and taught at and met his wife at. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And it sounds like a tragic tale to a certain point. It is really tragic because I think one of the reasons... For a man who's travelled so much and he's decided all these places I've seen, you know what? Crawly. Let's stay with it. Because if you take away doing comedy or anything like that if i bump into someone from school they go how's it going rom yeah yeah good uh
Starting point is 00:41:50 where where where would you work i worked where we um where we went actually you know we went to school that's where and where are you living now where you live in i live about five minutes away where from where i lived when we were growing up i mean if you sort of look at in terms of your wife where'd you meet her yeah I met her at the school I was teaching at. What about your kids? Where are they going? Oh, they're also going to the school that I taught at. Because when there was kids at my school
Starting point is 00:42:14 whose parents had been to our school, I think there's something weird going on there, isn't there? Institutionalised. But at least you're not still teaching there. Because if you were that's when it you must have done a talk though rom you must have got been called back in mate you know what it's so it was so bad so about maybe two years after i left i got a phone call from the deputy head saying oh they're doing this they're doing this young enterprise scheme do you know
Starting point is 00:42:39 young enterprises where these the six formers they organize these businesses and try and raise money or whatever so one of these groups have decided they're going to put on a lunchtime event and the lunchtime event they had this idea that i was going to come back and do some stand-up comedy right at this scale they're going to resurrect you yeah yeah yeah and so i agreed to do it um bearing in mind i i was doing two tour dates in Wales, right? Either side of this lunchtime, right? Oh, God. Romain.
Starting point is 00:43:10 He loves to travel this guy. You've got to learn to say no. Honestly, I didn't want this to be the platform because I'm very grateful for you doing this, Rom, but you've got to start saying no to stuff, mate. Not this. This is a good one. But you cannot be doing two gigs in Wales
Starting point is 00:43:23 and then pop home to die your ass at a school in crawling okay first of all rob first thing let me just tell you i haven't got to the bit about whether i died on my ass or not so it's a given you're tired you're in your own school where you met your wife in you went to school you went back to teach and you're sending your own kid it's a tough gig what is so funny it is surprising not surprising actually i think totally expected how little of a shit a set of students give about an ex-maths teacher coming back to do some stand-up i mean absolutely could not have cared less and what made it worse is that the members of staff who i used to work with just stood there at the back going so this is what he's gone on to do is it
Starting point is 00:44:10 and also at this stage were you out well how many years ago was this was you this is like pretty early on so you hadn't really got to a level a wider level of success as well no no i'm done i'm done any because the thing is the truth is people outsiders people outside of comedy or whatever they when you talk to people from when you start comedy they only think that you're a success if you've done any telly yeah it doesn't matter it doesn't matter how much you're making from the circuit or whatever you're doing they just see have you been on telly have you been on something i've seen you on so at that point everybody including my mum everybody thought i'd made a massive mistake that's the truth of it yeah and so me
Starting point is 00:44:48 going back to to the school that's why she came in to help you boost up wasn't it by going on your show this needs some actual natural comedy telling because um so yeah it was it was it was it was a bad bad visit put it that way on the kid going back to the school that you went to, is there going to be teachers that he's been taught by, that you've been taught by, that you were taught by? And you'll be like, yeah, he's an absolute... You've got the inside track on the teachers. Yeah, well, he is going to be taught by people
Starting point is 00:45:21 that I used to work with. There isn't anybody that I used to be taught by, but there are people that I used to work with there aren't any there isn't anybody that I used to be taught by but there are people that I used to work with and it's difficult isn't it because I know what these people's genuine level of professionalism is obviously as a teacher you present a front you know you you present as if you are completely dedicated and infallible but you know we all know that's not the truth but so it's going to be difficult i used to have it when i was head of sixth form because i'd have people i'd have parents come in and complain about certain teachers and i think to myself yeah that i mean she is shit but you can't you can't you can't say that yeah you're right so you have to go you know no i start no she's she's a very
Starting point is 00:46:01 accomplished professional actually and i think it's slightly insulting that you would insinuate she does anything less than the absolute peak of her powers to get you through your exams. And you saw her doing a line on Wednesday lunchtime at the pub round the corner, crying about her divorce. Well, yeah, I would discuss it with her when I go meet her down the park to Bonazut. Rob, in terms of you, you know, saying yes to work,
Starting point is 00:46:24 with your youngest child, so this is five years ago now, but he was born in Edinburgh, right? Yeah, yeah. In the middle of the Edinburgh Festival. Yeah, well, Lisa... Most annoyingly for Rob, he got nominated as well, didn't he? I'm not about awards, yeah? I'm a stiff-necked award.
Starting point is 00:46:46 It was actually... We found out the due date was in the middle of the festival and at that point I mean this sounds there's no way of saying this without making this sound like a lie but at that point the show was written
Starting point is 00:46:54 and we'd done the posters and everything but I was thinking yeah yeah I mean you know you're only going to lose money even more money actually so I was sort of thinking
Starting point is 00:47:03 about what to do and the truth is and this is genuinely the truth, I thought I've got to pull out of Edinburgh here because this is crazy. But then I spoke to Lisa. Lisa used to live in Edinburgh. She said to me, look, it's absolutely fine. We'll just come with you and I'll have the baby in Edinburgh. And she said it very, very matter-of-factly, right?
Starting point is 00:47:23 So when I spoke to her, i spoke to her i allowed myself to fall into the the the the illusion that that was actually quite a simple thing i just went okay cool brilliant oh that's problem solved it was only when i went and told other people and they said to me you know you're an arsehole don't you i mean you know that's that's that's a that's a horrendous thing to make your wife do you You bring in your whole family because what? You've written 50, maybe 51 minutes of average stand-up that you absolutely have to deliver to Edinburgh every day. So, yeah, I genuinely, I thought it was really nothing to worry about,
Starting point is 00:47:59 but it turns out it was quite a big deal. But then what happened was this. So at the hospital hospital we told the hospital i can't remember who we told but we told somebody that we're going back to we're going back home what do you do about registering them and stuff like that and they said you just do it when you get back so well okay so then we get back to england and then we go to register him and they say you you know you absolutely should have registered him where he was born i mean this is you've made a massive mistake so So I was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:27 And then they said, there's only a certain amount of time that you can do that. I don't know what happens afterwards. He has to take it away. He's out. Yeah. I've got some bad news. I didn't register the birth in time,
Starting point is 00:48:43 so I'm going to have to pop him back in. Is that all right? Yeah, but I genuinely, I didn't know, does he have to live his life as a fugitive? I don't know what happens if you don't. But anyway, there was a deadline, right? Which I didn't know. I don't know how enforceable that deadline was.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So anyway, I had to go back to Edinburgh. Thankfully, didn't have to take him back. I had to go back to Edinburgh. So I had to book an appointment at Edinburgh Registry to register his birth the uh so I the only appointment I could get was on the day of the Scottish referendum right so so I so I had to I flew to Edinburgh walked up to the registry office this fucking protest like just all across the streets and I'm navigating my way about the referendum
Starting point is 00:49:25 yeah not about you yeah not about not about we don't we don't recognise your son of Scottish that was actually
Starting point is 00:49:33 the second question on the voting slip that day um it was just so and then I went into the registry office and they said
Starting point is 00:49:40 where in Edinburgh do you live and I said I don't live in Edinburgh mate I'm just a fucking idiot and I've come here for the day on referendum day to register my son now now can you please register my son's birth so that he doesn't have to live life as a criminal
Starting point is 00:49:53 charlie was born about three o'clock in the morning or something okay yeah so then so then off the curb our agents were going do you want to pull the show and i said i'll probably be all right actually i'm all right to pull the show? And I said, I'll probably be all right, actually. I'm all right to do the show. So midway through the show, I went... How did that go down with Lisa? She was totally fine with it. Was she still in the hospital?
Starting point is 00:50:12 I wish I hadn't stuttered when I said that. She was genuinely... Was she in the hospital still? She was genuinely... No, she came home like, Lisa's like, Lisa has not had a birth last longer than an hour and a half of the three. I mean, I'd still argue it's still longer than an hour and a half of the three
Starting point is 00:50:26 I mean I'd still argue it's still quite a tough hour and a half it may be shorter than normal but there's a lot going on in that 90 minutes oh listen mate
Starting point is 00:50:33 as a spectator it's like Liverpool North Castle 4-3 that 90 minutes it's non-stop action oh my god it's crazy but to be fair in your defence
Starting point is 00:50:40 Lisa is one of the calmest and just most matter of fact just like yeah fine like water off for ducks back kind of people. So she probably would have gone, yeah, go and do it, it's fine. Yeah, she did do that. So she's at home with a newborn baby and a, what, like a three-year-old and an eight-year-old or something?
Starting point is 00:50:59 And a five-year-old, yeah. So five-year-old and a three-year-old at home and a newborn baby. What time was your show? Show was at eight o'clock. So it's enough time, arguably, for her to get acclimatised. So you took about 15 hours after giving birth. She's back in an alien flat you've only rented for a couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Yeah, but a nice flat. I didn't scrimp on that. Is it ground level or is it up a few flights of stairs? I think it was third floor. Third floor, lovely. Oh, wrong. You got her up three flights of stairs, chucked her into a flat
Starting point is 00:51:28 with a 15-hour-old baby, a three-year-old and a five-year-old. Is anyone else there? Well, one of her friends was there. One of her friends was there and my brother and his wife were there. Oh, okay. So whose brother?
Starting point is 00:51:42 Your brother? My brother. So the in-laws there. Great, that's brilliant. That's really helpful,. Oh, okay. So the in-laws there. Great. That's brilliant. That's really helpful, that. I don't know about anyone else's relationship, but the in-laws, that would go down as a negative rather than a positive.
Starting point is 00:51:52 She doesn't really get on with my brother, but I thought it'd be fine. No, I'm joking. It was just the in-laws, Tommy Robinson, just stuff like that. Just helping. And then, so how did you do the gig what happened in the gig
Starting point is 00:52:06 well I did the gig and at the end of the gig I just because I think in the show I talked about the fact that Lisa's pregnant and we're about to have this baby
Starting point is 00:52:15 then I said and what happened was is actually I can tell you that today we did we did have the baby and they just thought
Starting point is 00:52:21 it was something I said every night I mean it was such a sad innovation yeah I really thought it was something I said every night. I mean, it was such a... I put on a standing ovation. Yeah. I really thought it was going to be a moment in my naivety
Starting point is 00:52:29 and they're just like, what, does that normally work, does it? Does that normally get some sort of response? They thought that you'd struggle to get an ending for the show
Starting point is 00:52:37 so every night you would do a play and you'd have the baby. Funnily enough. Get someone to bring out a cake. We got like party poppers and streamers and shit. This is pathetic. Just write a call back, you lazy bastard.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Oh, mate. We've, I mean, we've barely covered, we've covered about three topics. Fortnite, Andy Peters, and the school. Four topics, but they were uh enjoy any more questions rob any final questions um not not the moment really is anything you want to get off your chest romesh before we go about your kids anything you want to lay down as a marker no i mean although what i would say is um i do think that um i i think that parents could have been a bit more supportive of each other
Starting point is 00:53:28 during this whole homeschooling scenario. Because homeschooling has been, for everyone, challenging and trying and traumatic. And you say that as a former head of sixth form. Yeah, absolutely. Mate, listen, Lisa and I, both teachers, right? It's difficult, very, very difficult. And actually, but parents are so worried
Starting point is 00:53:55 about doing the job properly that you can feel these little competitive comments that they're making to each other. Do you know what I mean? Sort of just going when, you know, we sort of do, we kind of do three to four hours a day because we feel you know that's as much as we can push them and you sort of think you've said that kind of to make me feel like shit about what we're doing because you know that we're doing 11 and a half hours of fortnight if we're doing
Starting point is 00:54:15 anything all right so and it's just that thing of like we're all you know all parents have been in this together it's been a very difficult thing and i think you know i'd love for all parents to just absolve themselves of any kind of feelings of like not doing the right thing it's it's a really tough ask do you know what i mean how about going forward rather than bothering with exams at gcses you just play fortnight and whoever wins isn't allowed to go to uni because they've obviously not been doing enough studying and whoever gets shot immediately has been doing homeschooling so you can work it out that way. Well, mate, listen, the way that these grades are going to be awarded just, you know, based on predicted grades,
Starting point is 00:54:49 are you telling me there's going to be no favouritism going on there? Come on, mate. Would you have done that, Rob, as a teacher? Let me tell you something. If it was me, there's no spurs of Chelsea fans getting an A in maths, are you? But after the last weekend. Thanks so much, Romesh.
Starting point is 00:55:06 It's been great. No worries, mate. It's been an absolute pleasure. Yeah, thank you very much. We'll speak to you another time, I'm sure. That is Romesh Ranganathan. Very funny man.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Who do you think is going to play him in Series 9 of The Crown? Yeah, I mean, now he's a... Do you know what, though? I just think... I've known rom i started out with romesh you know years and years of doing gigs together starting on the open mic circuit and
Starting point is 00:55:31 i just i think he's talented and i think he just needs a couple of breaks and i'm happy to give him a bit of exposure on here you know so people can get to know who he is and maybe go and see him do comedy you know what i mean like exactly i know it's a bit bad for, a bit nepotism, but I just wanted to give a mate a chance. So thanks for letting me have him on the show. And hopefully he can crack on. And in a few years' time, when he gets an audience, people will be able to go, oh, no, Mark.
Starting point is 00:55:56 You know that shit bloke who went funny and not on the telly until we went on the parenting podcast? He's great. I don't know why he didn't get more telly sooner. So, yeah, fingers crossed he'll get, you know, start off with an appearance on stuff maybe, you know.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Yeah. On something, you know, and then go from there. But yeah, good luck to him. It feels like a long time since he wore a leather shirt
Starting point is 00:56:14 on Mock the Week, doesn't it? I forgot about that. Oh yeah, but it's because when you start doing Mock the Week, people won't realise this.
Starting point is 00:56:24 They, their TV people are obsessed with what you wear, right? You could have the best jokes ever, but if everyone's got a blue T-shirt on, they're, like, panicking, like, oh, my gosh, they've all got blue T-shirts on. We might as well burn our tellies. It's never going to work. So they always want you to wear different colours.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And because most, you know, most comedians are sort of like the sort of nerdy, awkward people at school, so wear sort of dark clothes. they'll encourage you to wear bright things i used to wear some awful stuff on not the week because i think deep down i thought maybe it'll keep me get booked they'll book me if i wear a bright top but yeah if you if you're a big fan of ramesh you can catch him he's got two books out he's got five tv shows he's um got a hip-hop podcast he's djing on kiss fm at the moment um but yeah and um yeah he's got a column in the he's DJing on Kiss FM at the moment but yeah he's got a column in the Guardian column in the Guardian
Starting point is 00:57:08 is that a sitcom out? yeah he's constantly Instagram living as well yeah if you go on Instagram it's a bit like you're only 3 feet away from a rat in central London you're only 2 clicks away from a Romesh Instagram live feed.
Starting point is 00:57:25 So if you hang around and they're long enough, you will see him in the flesh. Thank you to Romesh. Yeah, thanks, Romesh. Absolutely rinsed him. He's done us a real favour. He's got no response either. Oh yeah, also in League of Their Own as well, if you want to see it, he does that as well.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Yeah, good luck to him. Good luck to him. So thank you Romesh. And next next week josh we've got an absolute banger of an episode jen brister very very funny comedian you might have seen supporting romesh yeah she has been supporting romesh he tours he does live stand-up as well when he gets a chance but yeah she's uh romesh's tours one jen brister is absolutely brilliant we've just recorded it actually and it was genuinely one of my favourite ones we've done. Yeah, Twin Boys. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Who's that compars you there? The T-Birds? That was actually Ramesh's taking part in a celebrity break. Yeah, he's working on ways to be on TV in between TV gigs. They can film him driving to and from. Anyway, Jembris, next week it's brilliant episode two twins age of five it's a banger uh thank you so much for listening uh we'll see you on friday when rob will be telling you uh nine different ways that he had his shit interrupted bye

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