Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S01 EP49: Gaby Roslin

Episode Date: October 13, 2020

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL' - S01 EP49: Gaby RoslinJoining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) during the lockdown and bey...ond is the brilliant TV and radio presenter, Gaby Roslin. Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks. xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.ukTWITTER: @lockdownparent INSTAGRAM: @lockdown_parentingA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:23 Kate, the real test is, will he use the BMO Toronto FC cashback MasterCard? Well, if he wants to earn cashback on his purchases, he will, and... Oh, hang on. He's at the computer with his card, and he's done it! Oh, clicky-click magic trick!
Starting point is 00:00:37 The click heard around the room. You guys just about finished? Sorry, we got excited. Thanks for snagging those tickets. Make every purchase highlight-worthy with the BMO Toronto FC Cashback Mastercard. Hello, I'm Josh Whitacombe. And I'm Rob Beckett. Welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hell, the show in which Rob and I discuss what it's like to be a parent during lockdown, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, in an effort to make some kind of sense of the current situation... And to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills...
Starting point is 00:01:18 Each episode, we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you the listener with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing. Hello and welcome to Lockdown Parenting Hell with... Can you say Josh Widdicombe? Josh Widdicombe? Can you say Rob Beckett?
Starting point is 00:01:52 I've got to be quite sensitive here, but is he hitting something or is he growling like a mad dog? I can't put this any more sensitively, but is he a mad dog? Yeah, is your child a demon? A demon from Ghostbusters? Is your child the mad demon dog from Ghostbusters? Is that right? Oh, dear. Oh, so thanks very much.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I mean, I assume he was hitting something, or is that how William sounds? I don't know. We'll just have to jump to our own conclusions. Happy birthday, William. Happy third birthday. It's actually my daughter's birthday this week, Rob. birthday third birthday what you're doing you're gonna invite what two people round i mean i don't want to i don't want to throw around the word loophole
Starting point is 00:02:34 oh go on yeah it's only guidance remember it's only guidance you're doing the you're doing the best thing for your child as a the cummings law you are doing what you think is best for your child and if you think a hundred people at air jumps the best way forward then go for it i mean the thing is the people next door must be thinking they're they're building a very big marquee for six people no um she shares her birthday with two other children who are also three on the same day in her nursery so we're going to do birthday in the morning but then she can go to nursery and there's 20 kids there so it's like they're having they're having a party at nursery so there's your loophole oh what a loophole so basically there's three kids that you can be party day yeah it's party day at nursery that's lovely she'll have breakfast
Starting point is 00:03:17 with them presents and stuff and off she goes off she goes lovely no zoom no zoom party no zoom party i'm still waiting for those zoom parties I'll let you know how they go yeah once I've logged in um and uh a bit worried though I don't know if anyone that goes to my daughter's school listens to this I'm gonna have to tread carefully that is a worry isn't it surely it would spread like wildfire once they realize that someone is documenting their child's time at the school well it's the thing is i think you've got to go two ways with this you either don't talk about it as a comedian because you want to you know you either don't talk about it at all or you do the katherine ryan approach where you absolutely rinse everyone and you are just isolated at the school
Starting point is 00:03:58 gate i'll be honest with you i'm trying to tread carefully but i haven't had too many uh i mean i've got i've got some beef that i could i'm not going to put on here but oh i'd love to know that beef we should do a charity special we just actually beef off everyone uh how's your week been it's been all right we converted to a big bed from cot oh how did that go two nights were tough did she come into your bed or she just cry you have to lay with her what do you know what? This is the best thing, mate. She has literally no interest in our bed. Same here.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Not yours with mine. My kids with my bed. That's great. Great news. Yeah. I'm going to let you in on a secret, Rob. I sat on it the other day. It's one of the hardest, least comfortable beds I've ever been on.
Starting point is 00:04:40 But she doesn't know any better. So it's fine. She's lucky to have it. Exactly. So she's basically sleeping on a plank. But she doesn't realize any better so it's fine she's lucky to have it exactly so she's basically sleeping on a plank but she doesn't realize that that's a problem so i'm not going to tell her what size bed did you go for just a single um king because we've got a double for our kids oh yeah because that basically they don't need bedroom space for a desk to work so we've basically
Starting point is 00:05:03 taken over most of their room with a double bed both of that they've got a room each very lucky to have a room each they've got a double bed in it because then when we have people to stay we've got spare beds rather than putting your mate or cousin in a tiny little curl up car bed so do they get lost in it well not lost but you know yeah yeah have you ever come in in morning? It's taken an hour to find them. No, no, no. They don't get lost in it. But the beauty of the kids is they do grow. They do.
Starting point is 00:05:29 That is one of the things about them. Oh, that's good news, though. So she's sleeping in it well. So that's all right. And we've more or less nailed potty training as well. Oh, mate. It's been a very big week. Through the night yet or not?
Starting point is 00:05:41 She wears nappies, but she doesn't really do anything in them. And then she takes them straight off and puts them in the bin for us. Oh, excellent. With the two-year-old, we're still at the stage of nappy in the night, bit of wee in it. But I'm in no rush to sort that out.
Starting point is 00:05:56 That'll be fine. That'll go, wouldn't it? Once she gets to uni. Yeah, it'll be fine. But she'll be doing uni from home by then. It'll be via Zoom, so it doesn't really matter. She can just sit there, piss yourself on Zoom and still learn.
Starting point is 00:06:08 And I think that's the future of our country's education. You can sit there with a nappy on at 18, shit and piss yourself and still find out about fractions. Exactly. Pay nine grand a term for the thrill. Imagine going to uni to do maths. Fucking hell.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I know it happens, but imagine. I know it happens. I've heard it happens. I heard it happens i mean year nine maths is mental isn't it i lost i was quite good at maths and i quite liked it when it was just sums and then once it got into like trigonometry and they're trying to apply it to cake and you're like a ladder against a wall and you're like this wouldn't fucking happen at the moment it became unlikely count me out i'm still furious they never taught anyone how to do a self-assessments tax return like everyone in my fucking school has to do because they're all gas fitters and plumbers or comedians well it's only me and tom adam but you know what i mean well that's quite
Starting point is 00:06:59 a good percentage yeah it is how's your how's your week been rob well i've had a weird week for a parenting podcast it's because i've had a weird week to for a parenting podcast it's because i've been away working for 11 days in a row blimey that's a pact she's a massive massive block right yeah and you know what's weird is when you've been away working and lou had to sort of do it all right i come home and it's weird you sort of she because she just did it on her own i come back to sort of try and help but i sort of get in the way and ruin it because she's got a system yeah i'm sort of trying to help and then i'm sort of doing stuff i'm doing it slightly wrong and the girls are like oh no but that's not how you do you're out have you been phased out basically
Starting point is 00:07:31 over 11 days i feel like she's left me but we're all in the house together and so you're trying to help and it gets a bit awkward and then because i've been away working i've not done any of my like house admin life admin and then she's not been able to do it either because she's been working on so it's just a horrible catch-up and everyone's a bit like under so but we've got a couple of days to sort of catch up and stuff so it's quite I don't know if anyone else gets up it's quite difficult to get back into the family routine yeah when you've been away and what's been difficult I found is I used to go to work as oh my god I get a break I'm so lucky but now they're older and they're going to school and we don't actually see them that much in the day because they're at school and that i just miss
Starting point is 00:08:07 them so much and then when i come back they're not here because they're at school and stuff it's sort of a weird turning point where now work isn't oh i get a bit of a break it's a oh god i'm really going to miss them which when you're in the you know the midst of lockdown or when they're really young you can't ever imagine that yeah but like now i sort of and so it's like that work balance the work-life balancing. And I've been reading this book here called The Cost of These Dreams. You'll love it.
Starting point is 00:08:29 The Cost of These Dreams. Yeah. So it's basically this American journalist and it's basically a collection of true stories about the dream of greatness and its cost in the world of sports. So all these people, it's got like stories about Messi,
Starting point is 00:08:43 Michael Jordan, and then also some like american college football coaches yeah and about the balance of work and life which everyone obviously these guys are doing it to the extreme but like everyone has that where you want to do well with work and make sure everyone has a holiday and everything's paid but you also got to be there for them and anyway i'm having that existential crisis on like day 10 of being away from home is this how you're announcing your retirement rob live on the podcast no no no i'm actually i'm announcing the divorce uh the fact that i don't want any access to the kids i'm just gonna focus on my dreams
Starting point is 00:09:14 no so like life balance is all over the shop too much life not enough work yeah fuck the life off sorry i've got to stop swearing get rid of the life stop swearing anyway so i was reading this you know you have those moments of like, oh, am I working too much? I'm not seeing the kids. I read this. It's one of those brutal passages I've ever read. But basically, this guy is an American. I've got his name.
Starting point is 00:09:34 He's an urban mayor, one of the most successful coaches in American football, right? Basically, he's got four kids, and he's just working all the time, and he keeps cancelling all their stuff. Anyway, his eldest daughter has just got a scholarship to play volleyball a big college and in america they had they basically it's all done in a big hall and you do basically if you're getting a scholarship it's such a big deal that you sign the contract and announce which college you're joining and you do a speech at the school and he tried to get out of it and his secretary has got four kids went no you are going and so forced him to go anyway so there was about 80 or so people
Starting point is 00:10:06 in the school cafeteria for this big announcement urban and his wife shelly joined their daughter at the front table watching anyway so his daughter gg stood and spoke she'd been nervous all day and with a room full of eyes on her she thanked her mother for being there season after season year after year this is in front of the whole school and all the teachers. Then she turned to her father. He'd missed almost everything. You weren't there, she told him. Shelley, his wife, winced. Her heart broke for Urban,
Starting point is 00:10:34 who sat with a thin smile, crushed. Moments later, Gigi high-fived her dad without making eye contact, then hugged her coach. Oh my God. Imagine, imagine that happened to you oh my god your soul would leave your body that is oh do you know what i feel a lot better about myself yeah exactly but it turns out that what happened was he had a nervous breakdown but then recovered
Starting point is 00:11:01 re-addressed his balance and went back to manage for a couple of years and retired. So it was a happy ending. That's nice. So have you been doing a lot of high-fiving the daughters since you got back from your working for 11 days, Rob? I've basically just been forcing them to play volleyball and watch them, just in case. Just laying next to them in bed.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I'm here. I'm there. I am here. Yeah, sure, I wasn't here for 11 days, but I'm here now. But I just read that, and I was like, oh, my God. That is not, that is what I don't want to be. But it's 11 days but I'm here now but I just read that and I was like oh my god that is not that is what I don't want to be but it's hard isn't it it's hard to balance that up and make the right decisions but have you read um have you read uh Lily Allen's autobiography Rob oh my god that as a parent that's some parenting right there from Keith
Starting point is 00:11:37 Allen there isn't it and and her mum as well and her mum as well the one where basically I you know she she was at boarding school in like devon or somewhere and we should try and get on the podcast she was at boarding school in devon and love it the car the coach would bring them all up from devon to royal albert hall where they'd get picked up okay for easter holidays from boarding school and then she'd come all the way up all the other girls and boys got picked up and she got left her mum or dad forgot and they had to just drive her back to devon oh could you imagine poor girl tip of the iceberg that there's some astonishing stories in that book and she's not on here promoting it but i should say it is one of
Starting point is 00:12:15 the most jaw-dropping reads although i would say harry enfield comes out of it brilliantly he does doesn't he oh my god yeah she thanked him for. What a great guy. Oh, my God. Yeah, she thanked him for everything. No high fives. No high fives. The full hug. Here come the carrots making their way upfield, followed by the whole wheat bread,
Starting point is 00:12:35 over to the two dozen eggs. Sir, do you do this every time? Sorry, I've been a little excited ever since I got this BMO Toronto FC cashback MasterCard. Oh, and the broccoli boots are over the line. What a goal! How would you like for us, Rob? Oh, we've only got one of, I'd say, the best presenters of her generation. Big Breakfast, Motormouth, Children in Need. It's the one, the only, Gabby Roslin. I'm going to be honest, I'm very excited about this.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Me and Rob will often suggest guests back and forth. And when Rob said Gabby Roslin, I've never replied yes quicker in my life hello gabby roslin i don't believe you honestly gabby he is a mega fan i don't believe you true that's just you no gabby but this is meant to be about parenting but i'm mainly going to be focusing on motor mouth um so you're not old enough to remember that I am I am old enough to remember that Gabby I it was it was I've just checked the dates on Wikipedia it was 1989 to 1992 so that was I was six to nine oh my well I was only I was I was a mere 12 it was amazing how much you did before young age yes so Gabby let's start with your let's start with your your parenting um let's get that out of the way shall we Rob yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah happily yeah I'm I am the
Starting point is 00:14:15 embarrassing mum I am and I'm I'm proud of being the embarrassing mum and I'll always be the embarrassing mum how old are your children Gabby? 13 and 19. So my oldest is away at university and she said that the thing she doesn't miss is the way I wake her up in the morning. And it's wrong and it's abusive, but I don't care. So how do you wake her up in the morning? Well, I sit on my girls and I sing musical theatre songs.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Oh, wow. Old, bold start to the day but that's and i'm not lying i mean that is honestly if you were to ask either of them how i wake them up they'll say oh we're fast asleep my mum sits on top of us actually it's really weird when i say out loud well they're quite old gabby not old but they're quite old for sitting on them at night. No, but I wouldn't do it if they were little. Actually, I did. No, when they were really little, I'd lie down next to them and sing a musical theatre song.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Now, because my 19-year-old, she's 19, she hasn't grown up. When she came home in lockdown, she was really happy about that after leaving home and then suddenly come on you're coming back I used to go in in the morning and I'd sit on her she'd be on her side so I'd sit on her properly on her legs I go poof and I start singing there are worse things I could do or anything from any musical well what about when you know your daughter brings home a partner like would you still burst into that room no oh my god oh well maybe oh i think you wouldn't the first few times if it was a serious relationship and they've got you know been together a little while a year or so i
Starting point is 00:15:59 think you'll start edging into that gabby a year no no no it'll be after a couple of days not waiting that long to be embarrassing um well no you're right but actually I you know I know what I've do I've got it I know exactly what I'll do I will go you know that when you close the door and there's just not the keyhole but the line down the side of the door I do that you know when you put when I'll do it on the mic when you do that up to the door you know when you do that to talk to somebody and I'll start singing good morning good morning oh my god Gabby so are you doing this purely because you enjoy ruining their morning or are you doing it I mean do you enjoy embarrassing them yes but also I don't take well Rob has known me a long time now but I don't take, well, Rob has known me a long time now, but I don't take life terribly seriously.
Starting point is 00:16:48 And I also think a really nice way to start the day is to laugh and to have your daughter look at you in the way that my 13-year-old this morning on a Monday morning, although I have to say she really does love school, which is fantastic. But this morning I lay down next to her and I started drumming a tune on her bottom and I said, do you know what tune it is? And she went, mum. I went, no, go on.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Here it is. And then she said, oh my God, it's Grease Lightning. And I went, yes! She does it! What time is this? This morning it was seven o'clock. Oh, wow. That's a pretty early start to the day, isn't it,
Starting point is 00:17:35 with a Grease Lightning drummed on your arse. Gabby, you are so full of life and energy and everything about you, you want to have as much fun as you can in that day. And I it's a wonderful way to live your life but how do you balance that especially when the kids were younger and you were tired and worn out when they were toddlers and then you had to sort of like discipline them and things like that how did you manage your personality you're in order to do that um when i remember sort of you know saying for goodness, you know, saying, for goodness sake, you know, do your homework, do your homework. But then they'll shout downstairs and go, mum, will you be quiet? And I'm really sorry. I've just found something that's really funny. You've got to come and see that. So they'd probably say I'm not that stern. I leave that to my husband. He's not that stern
Starting point is 00:18:19 either, but I'll leave that to him. But you don't really do any of that kind of stuff. You're just a full fun time. And then he has to do all that. No, I suppose when it comes to being careful, that sort of thing, I'm very, I don't want them to be hurt or, you know, I'm very unprotective in that way. But when my oldest one, oh, this is going to sound really wrong. Do it. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Perfect start to any anecdote. No one was hurt in the making of this story. When my oldest one fell down the stairs, and she properly fell down the stairs on her back and on her bottom, and she landed at the bottom, and she just then, you know when a child sits up and shakes their head because they're completely shocked? And then I said, you know, when a child sits up and shakes their head because they're completely shocked. And then I said, are you okay?
Starting point is 00:19:08 And she went, mommy, I fell down the stairs. And then that was it. I sat on the floor and I peed myself laughing. And then afterwards she kept saying, and she didn't cry, she kept saying, mommy, what are you doing? What are you doing? And I said, I'm really sorry, but you're okay. And that made me laugh.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I wish I'd filmed it. And I do. That's the thing that makes me laugh. And so they, but if she'd been hurt, I would have been comforting. Of course. My daughter, her school, she started, she's only four, four and a half. She came over and said oh well how was school she went yeah someone fell over and um the teacher said we're not allowed to laugh when someone falls over it's not funny and i'll in my head going well that's incorrect
Starting point is 00:19:55 it's it's really it's sick i mean i this does sound like a name drop but on my podcast uh robbie williams was one of my first guests and he was saying all these things that make him funny. And then he asked me and I said, well, somebody walking into a tree. And he went, I was going to say that, but I just thought it was wrong. I went, no, somebody walking into a tree. No, it's the funniest thing. You know, there was a show that before both of you were born
Starting point is 00:20:21 called Not the Nine O'Clock News. And Rowan atkinson walks along and walks into a tree and and it made me laugh and then the next clip is him walking along and thinking haha i'm not gonna walk into the tree he moves away from the tree and walks into a lamppost and it is just old-fashioned funny oh your daughter's like you though like this sort of sense of excitement or have they gone sometimes find, I've got friends of mine, parents are like you, and then the kids almost become like the adults, a bit more serious.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Or have they gone, followed you, or have they gone a bit more serious because you're a bit more, you know, carefree? Well, no, they both, my husband doesn't like the fact that we all laugh if somebody falls over or hurts himself. And he thinks it's really cruel so if he's in the room and something happens we all have that awful feeling of where you know you you just don't want anybody to see you laughing and you you you bite the inside of your cheeks and you don't want to laugh and then and then he'll look up at it I know you're laughing and you have to i'm really not and your voice gets me no i'm really not but but they're the same they laugh at
Starting point is 00:21:31 oh gosh at anything somebody walking into a door somebody falling off a chair i mean it's those things and was you like this when they were little when it was a bit smaller a bit more precious there's a lot of good falling over happening then, Rob. Gabby must have loved the first five years. Oh, my goodness, falling off a slide. You know when they come off the end of a slide and they don't stop and they keep going. I have, in fact, during lockdown, we used to go, my dad doesn't live too far away.
Starting point is 00:22:04 He's in his 80s and um uh and he got he hated it he hated being locked up and so we used to go and we'd play outside his front door so he'd come to the front door and he'd wave and you know before you were allowed to to see each other and we talked to him from his front gate in our hour and we'd we'd have we do be silly in the front and uh unsurprisingly and my youngest daughter loves skate love skateboard oh god love skateboarding and her older sister she she was trying to teach us all how to skateboard and i was saying i, I can skateboard. I skateboarded when I was 15. That's only a couple of years ago. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So I was skateboarding and I didn't mind taking the piss out of myself. It's fine. And I did fall over and I really can't skateboard anymore. But my youngest daughter, who's taller than her older sister, said, come on, I'll help you to jump onto a skateboard. to jump onto a skateboard. It was great that her little sister was holding onto her arm, but nobody actually thought that you needed to hold onto the skateboard. She's holding onto her big sister's arm,
Starting point is 00:23:19 but the skate was as she jumps onto the skateboard. And it goes flying. And the two of them end up on the floor. And I sent it to my best friend who says she thinks it's the funniest thing she's ever seen. And my dad said it was the best gift we gave him in lockdown. And we showed my husband
Starting point is 00:23:46 and said what's funny and we all laughed even more what's funny oh my god Gabby have you ever seen a show called
Starting point is 00:23:55 You've Been Framed because you fucking love it mate oh do you know what when somebody goes on your rope swing and they can't flip off that's just the thought.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Have you seen that lovely gif of a child that's on a little tractor and it falls over and the tractor ends up on their head and they get up and smile? That is just the favourite thing. I'm crying. Oh, my God, I'm crying. If social services are listening, then all of this. None of them were her. Social service are listening then. All of this.
Starting point is 00:24:27 None of them were her. None of them were her. I love it if Gabby said, you've been what? What's it called, Joshua? I'll give that a go. And then you can lose. Gabby Rosson has died from laughter
Starting point is 00:24:41 after watching 30 episodes of You've Been Framed in a Row. But you know Gabby makes 10 grand a year from those 250 quid just submitting videos. Never lets a falling over go awry. She's absolutely cleaning up. Harry Hill's got a direct line. Oh, I bet you love ice, didn't you? Bit of black ice.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Oh my God, there's nothing funnier. Like waiting for a new iPhone release. There's a tent in front of some snippy ice. No, I can actually tell you a real ice story. Oh, no, this is the best. So we were in, you know when they do the pop-up ice rinks everywhere? Yeah. And so I took the girls,
Starting point is 00:25:24 and we went with some friends of ours to the one oh my god hampton court one i think it was hampton court and we this is a few a few christmases ago and i said come on you're gonna be fine my oldest daughter was really scared so she was she was holding on to a penguin thing so I said no you don't you don't need a penguin thing I'll hold on to you I'll hold on to you you don't need a penguin thing so he said but mummy mummy I don't I'm scared so don't worry why can I scare you ice skating. My husband and my younger daughter stood there watching. I said, come on, this is to my eldest. He was going, but mummy, mummy, please. I was going, no, come on. I think she was about seven and my youngest was about two. I said, no, no, no, come on, hold my hand. So we
Starting point is 00:26:21 started going really slowly around and she went, oh, hold my hand. So we started going really, we started going really slowly around and she went, oh, this is okay. So I said, shall I let go now? And she said, if I could hold on to the side, I said, no, no, let go of the side. And my friends are watching and they're filming. And I was going, come come on and I was being really encouraging I said you're fine so I said come on do you like me and I shut off I went flying and I spun around and around and around the middle and my daughter then fell as well and all there is is this footage of the two of us on our front spin. She's crying out of it. She's so scared.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I don't know what I could do as well. She's so scared. Eventually, I crawled over to her and I said, don't worry, darling, everything's fine. And she just looked at me and she went, mummy, sometimes you can't laugh if somebody falls over. And that made it even worse. And then we tried to get up and there is nothing funnier than trying to get up when you're lying
Starting point is 00:27:32 flat on your face on the ice and lots of people are watching. And so I said to her, just smile it out. It's fine. Just smile it out. We then fell the whole time and we've got the footage. I must play it about a hundred times a month. Gabby, can I suggest something?
Starting point is 00:27:49 I've got a conspiracy here that I think you may lead your family into perilous situations with always a camera on the go in your own sort of semi-autobiographical prank show where, oh, let's go and Grandad. Bring the skateboard. Find that banana pill I've left on the floor, kids. Do you know we tried that? I'm calling Colkin in Home Alone.
Starting point is 00:28:13 No, we tried it on the Big Breakfast or a show like that. We tried to see whether you really can slip on a banana skin. And I don't think you really can. It's the angriest I've ever heard you. You're absolutely livid yes how dare it not yeah the money you spent on banana skins on your stairs for your kids to go on um so sometimes you wonder what it is about someone's sense of humor that leads them to start their career in kids television.
Starting point is 00:28:45 But I've kind of managed to nail it with you, Gabby. Do you know what? When I was a child, I was exactly the same. And when I was a child at three, I used to say I want to be a TV presenter. There was nothing ever, ever, ever that I wanted to do apart from be a TV presenter. And people used to say, why? And it was, I promise you, hand on my heart, it was never all fame or any of that rubbish. It was because I said, well, because it makes me laugh and I want to make everybody laugh. But not as a comedian like you guys.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I just thought kids' telly was just a laugh. And you'd have a laugh and you want other kids to laugh. I bet you absolutely love. I mean, I suppose your kids are too old now but I bet you loved it when you were watching it with them. Yeah but there's not kids telly, there's not Saturday morning telly like there used to be. Preaching to the choir here Gabby. There isn't that sort of
Starting point is 00:29:33 telly and I love it and I think they should be, they should bring all of that sort of thing back. I really do. I think it's a real shame that there's no anarchic, mad television. Everything's a little bit too straight's no anarchic, mad television. Everything's a little bit too straight. Yes, I do agree with that.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I think, you know, we can't just have people falling over all the time, though. But as Josh said, I would redirect you to You've Been Framed. You must have loved Gunge, Gabby. You must have absolutely loved Gunge. Well, we did it on Motormouth. There's a thing called Gungeum in the Dungeon. I think I was gunged. I think I have been been gunjed. I bet you can't get enough of being gunjed. That sounds exactly
Starting point is 00:30:10 up your street. But we got to do some mad things on Kids Telly. I did Air Sea Rescue in the English channel and they took me a mile out and they said, we'll just drop you here. And I had the flotation devices and everything. And they said, don't worry, we can hear you. You've got a mic. And I went, okayotation devices and everything. And they said, don't worry, we can hear you. You've got a mic.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And I went, okay, fine. And then I see the boat going away. And it keeps going, it keeps going. And I thought, oh my God, I'm here on my own. So I started talking to myself as you do, because I thought, oh God, at least they can hear me. Everything's fine. I'm like, what if there's a shark?
Starting point is 00:30:41 And I was out on my own and I knew that the helicopter was going to come and rescue me. But then next thing I see, and this isn't a lie, the microphone floated away. And I thought, how are they going to find me? And then I heard, and there was a sea link ferry behind me. And then I saw a helicopter and a man walking on the water and he because he's
Starting point is 00:31:08 dangling below and i got so excited that i forgot all the rules they said to me they said whatever you do don't open your mouth and shout because the water will come up into your mouth from the helicopter blades and and keep your arms down when they strap the rope around you. So I'm there, and I'm going, ah, ah! And I thought, oh, no, I'm going to drown. I'm going to drown. I was still laughing. And I thought, oh, my God, oh, my God. I've got the water.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I can't see anything because the water's going in my face. There's a sea link ferry. There's a man walking towards me. He's dangling below a helicopter, and he slipped the rope over my arms, and he's looking at me, and I'm just hysterical. And then I put my arms down and I started kissing his helmet. I don't know. It's not. No, you know what I mean? And I kept kissing him and kissing him and was so relieved.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I was terrified and I thought, oh, this is the most terrifying thing. We got to the top of the helicopter and I just was looking at all of these people at Air Sea Rescue. And I was like, oh, that was unbelievable. That was unbelievable. Can we do it again? And they let me do it again i've never been so scared but it was fantastic see that's what you do on kids exactly that's a bit of fun isn't it also as well i love the fact that they had to tell you not to scream because of the helicopter blades because it makes you drown but like if you were getting rescued you wouldn't have had that briefing so imagine drowning on the helicopter blade water once you'd been rescued but they probably they probably don't go that close because there's no camera filming yes of course yeah yeah that
Starting point is 00:32:39 does make sense they um when you work in kids tally gabby other people that work in kids tally are you like are you slagging off the kids you like you know how there's like a in hospitals they talk about they're kind of there'll be quite a dark sense of humor behind it is the sense of humor between all the adults and stuff is that much more kind of the opposite josh can i'm going to stop you there is that your dishwasher that is my dishwasher finishing cycle. I love that. I was worried it was your smoke alarm. I know.
Starting point is 00:33:10 What a pro. It will plough on through the blaze. Yeah. Too right. I'll run out, fall over, Gabby will love it.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Yes! But yeah, it's all right though. What are the kids' TV presenters like? Is it a bit more like crazier behind the scenes? Because there's such a lot.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Or do they take it, like, really seriously? Are people going, I actually think the gun should fall from this place because that's actually funnier? Or is it? Do you know what? Let's be honest. I was working with the genius that is Neil Buchanan. What's he like?
Starting point is 00:33:41 He is a god. He's a god. That's what I want to hear. He started off in a rock band and now he could paint anything with anything. And to work with him, he was my first TV husband. I did kids telly for two years before Motormouth. It was just me and some puppets. And then I'd had my first TV husband was Neil Buchanan.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And then I went to Chris Evans as the TV husband. So I was pretty lucky. I heard you could confirm this, that Neil Buchanan is and then I went to Chris Evans as the TV husband. So I was pretty lucky. I heard, you can confirm this, that Neil Buchanan is the most difficult person to book in the world because he's so rich because Art Attack has been sold everywhere. Is that true? Do you know the wonderful thing about Neil is, and I still call him Nellie B,
Starting point is 00:34:19 but whenever I'll text him suddenly out of the blue, I'll WhatsApp him and it the blue, I'll WhatsApp him and it will just be, what was her name? So that will be it. Randomly the other day I couldn't remember someone's name and I haven't spoken to him for maybe six months. So I just WhatsAppped him, what was her name? And I swear to you, on my life he came back with Janie Grace
Starting point is 00:34:42 and that's the woman who was our producer or head of children's who who offered me the job and he knew who I was talking about well you just sent him the text what's her what was her name yeah what was her name I wish I could I could screenshot it and send it to you because I swear that is absolutely the god's honest truth wow so you so then I phoned him up and I just I I swore a lot. Just go, what on earth have you just done? How did you know? He said, I've no idea.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I just thought that's who you might be talking about. Wow. What a connection with Nellie B. What a connection. So was he doing Art Attack when you were doing Motormouth with him? Yeah. Is he really rich from it as well, Gabby? Is that true?
Starting point is 00:35:25 Probably. I don't know. I don't ask it. That'd be really weird. Gabby, I've heard he's the richest man in the world. But richer than Bezos. Let's be honest. No offence to Neil Buchanan,
Starting point is 00:35:34 but if he weren't wading, he'd be doing The Jungle by now. Let's look at it that way. Yeah? He's invested well, the geezer. Let's just say that.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Do you know what? He'd be good in the jungle wouldn't he oh think what he'd arrange the twigs into a big picture of the queen or something it'd be amazing have your kids seen your telly stuff gabby was it that yeah what's what stuff what stuff did they watch because of the kid that would have been too young or not born with the kids stuff they weren't born when the kids stuff or the big breakfast was on but uh my youngest was around when i did children in need and she loved it but they've they watch it the magic of youtube and they just go mom you're
Starting point is 00:36:11 you're mad that's but they're used to it so there's nothing really surprising and even weirdly sort of city hospital there was somebody sent me a link to something or city hospital which was a daytime show i did and um it took place in the hospital live show and we'd go from very heavy serious things happening on the wards to i'd get the doctors doing the can can in the corridors and and my kids they somebody sent me a clip and i showed them and they went mom you didn't actually do that yeah why they went you've got the doctors they're really serious things going on mom in the world i mean yeah but that's went you've got the doctors they're really serious things going on mom in the world i mean yeah but that's why you've got to do the can can
Starting point is 00:36:49 how do you because gabby like because how do you manage this sort of like you have quite a carefree fun attitude with like the admin of having kids you know a teenage daughter's going to school and all that and you know packing the school bag so they've got all the right stuff like are you quite organized with it was that something your husband does more of or can you still do both well and be on it as a mum as well as having a laugh here's the thing that you two won't have the joy of they actually pack their own school bags now all right at 13 and 19 you don't have to do it anymore you just tapped out you don't have to do it there but i remember that that mad rush i mean there i suppose you said you asked if i get um if i get irritable or annoyed my favorite sound
Starting point is 00:37:33 and their least favorite is have you brushed your teeth yet brush your hair brush your teeth brush your hair brush your teeth so that will be my that's the cry of the morning always are you you must be quite a good morning person then Gabby I am I am annoying did you ever have a problem with the early mornings I suppose you've been getting up at like 3am for the big breakfast anyway so kids is a blessed relief I'm I really am the person who I don't like to go to sleep at night because I don't want the day to end and then I don't mind getting up early because I want the next day to start and I have awful things happen as well it's not all you know I've had horrible things happen in my life but um but also I do see I do like to see the joy in everything what do you use that if you are feeling like a bit overwhelmed or you get a
Starting point is 00:38:19 bit down is there is there things that you talk to yourself about to do or or and things like that to sort of readdress it? Or is it just that you just naturally, you know? I probably naturally, I've always been a, probably wouldn't mean anything, but if you, there's a thing, there's a book years ago called Pollyanna, and she always played the glad game. And I always used to be called Mary Poppins or Pollyanna
Starting point is 00:38:41 when I was a child because I liked to see the joy in the silliest of things. But of course I get really down. I remember a child, because I like to see the joy in the silliest of things. But of course I get really down. I remember, and I don't want to bring it down, but when mum died 23 years ago of cancer, and dad had cancer at the same time. And I remember doing interviews afterwards and whatever show I was doing, and they would say, oh, I'm so sorry about the loss of your mum. I said, yeah, so am I. I mean, it's, she was very young and I was young when I lost her. And, um, they always used to say, oh, uh, you're always, you always say, oh, I'm so lucky or I love life. And I said, yeah. And I always used to say to every journalist, I'm so sorry. I love life. And when mum died, I realized I was never going to apologize again
Starting point is 00:39:21 because life's too short. And it sounds sort of quite a deep thing to say, but I'm not apologising for loving life. And my mum didn't live as long as she should have. She died early 60s. And I wish that she was still around, but I'm going to enjoy every moment because we're not, you know, we're not here forever. So that's why I really do feel that about life.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Well, I think in a way as well, because really what happened to you, it's one of the worst things that can happen to you is losing such a close person to you that you sort of think well the worst things happen now so I'm just going to enjoy it because you know I think sometimes the anxiety of stuff happening can sort of stress people out and drag them down more and they forget to have fun and I think you know it's you know it's such a great way to live your life and it's you're so infectious Gabby whenever I speak to you or I've met up with you afterwards I feel like a little buzz, a little glow. And I think that's such a powerful thing to have,
Starting point is 00:40:08 and hence why you were so good on telly as well as in real life, because that comes across and it makes people happy and full of joy. I love TV. I love TV. There is nothing – actually, that's the one thing in lockdown that I always, always, always used to say for years. I'm going into my 34th year of it now. And I always said that I am addicted to and I'm obsessed with telly. And I decided in lockdown, there was a sort of moment realization that I love it. And actually, I'm
Starting point is 00:40:42 going to use that word and I don't care. I don't care if people think that's stupid or pathetic. I don't really care. I love it. I love television. Deeply love it. Of course, I love my family. But I love television. They do ask.
Starting point is 00:40:58 They say, where do we come? I go, no, don't be silly. You know the answer. Yeah. So on that, did you have rules about them like watching TV or? No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:41:10 What I don't want them to see, and actually I still don't like the idea of them seeing anything that's. Art attack. No art attack at all. I don't want them watching. And I think when they were younger as well, I didn't want anything that was about cruelty, was about nasty. You know, nudity, we're all naked. You know, I didn't want them to see. I want to protect them from the horrible things. And I think there are some really nasty things that you can find in films and TV shows. And when they're older, they can make that decision themselves. So I think that was the only thing. And they loved telly. My youngest one grew up on Mary Poppins and Balamory. And my younger one, that was my oldest one, my younger one loved In the Night Garden.
Starting point is 00:42:00 In fact, we were talking about the Ninky Nonk just the other day and Maca Packa. I can't stand in the night garden. Upsy-daisy. I'm not a fan of going in the night garden, Gabby. I'm sorry. I can't do it. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I feel like I need to be on drugs. And have you had any sort of big falling outs with your daughters, especially going through teenage years? It's when they start wanting their own sort of decision-making and going out and seeing people and things like that. Luckily, no. But we did. own decision making and going out and seeing people and things like that luckily uh no but we did i mean my oldest one the weirdest thing is that and i'm everybody i ever talked to about it there are two extraordinary things that happen when you have girls uh that they turn the light
Starting point is 00:42:37 off they say no no mommy love you love you and they come out the next morning and go, oh, for God's sake, you just don't understand me. But it's as quick as that. And you just think, well, what don't I understand? You said, no, no, mommy, love you. And now I don't understand you. And I remember being like that myself. I was going to say, what were you like as a teenager, Gabby? Because I can't imagine you being kind of full of teenage anxiety. Oh, no, I was desperate. I talk about this all the time. So I was desperately, desperately shy and I still am. So I, as a child and as a teenager, even though I was this giggly,
Starting point is 00:43:15 I giggled all the time. I loved to giggle and I always got told off for talking and giggling at school. But I was desperately shy. So as a teenager, it became unbearable shyness. That's exactly how I was, Gabby, but I think both on paper now, people wouldn't assume that about us. So how did you go from that shy teenager to now, you know, biggest TV presenter star, full of confidence, full of energy?
Starting point is 00:43:40 Well, I'm not because I'm still very shy. And I know that you and i have had this conversation rob but i if if i if my husband says oh so and so has invited us to a house party i will just no and i'll say no there is no and then we'll go and i will i will follow david to the loo because i don't want to be left on my own because sometimes that very shy me is still there and actually i've just learned now in the past few years to be loud on my own because sometimes that very shy me is still there. And actually I've just learned now in the past few years to be loud and proud about it because nobody talks about shyness. And I think it was debilitating at 15. I'd go to a party and I remember a guy who I ended up going
Starting point is 00:44:16 out with for a short time years later, he was talking to me and he said, are you okay? And I just thought, my mouth won't open. And it just wouldn't open because I was so shy. And then I went into the loo and I looked in the mirror and I went, you're okay, you're okay, you're okay. And then I go back out there and his name was Anthony, lovely guy. And he said, what's the matter? And I just went, I'm shy. And then he said, have you always been told you're shy? And I said, yes. And he said, well, maybe you're not shy.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I said, but I am. And actually, yes, I was always told I was shy, but I knew I was and I just didn't have, I just was shy. I knew that's what it was. It was a sort of knot in my stomach. And Rob, I don't know if it's the same for you. At a certain age, you just, oh God, there's nothing worse than having to face people and talk.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And how do you both end up being performers in that situation? I don't like that. Most performers are like that. Most of the people I've ever interviewed in my 34 years have said the same thing. They've all said the same thing. I used to get a knot in my stomach. So say there was a class outing or something, there'd be a knot in my stomach all night lots of anxiety about it because it was different to like just being in school and then I'd pretend to be ill so I didn't have to go
Starting point is 00:45:32 and I'd all be worked up and sort of worried about going somewhere and then just not go and and I think with that sort of shyness and lacking that confidence I think in a way it's that you know I was always like you giggling laughing trying to be funny making jokes but on my own terms in a sort of comfort bubble of my family or close friends but then even stand up essentially I'm still being shy because I'm basically controlling that whole world where I come out and talk to someone in a in an environment where you sit there and listen and I stand here and talk do you know what I mean yeah and then as time went on I got less shy and got more confident in myself but it was a slow process I don't know if it's the same for you Gabby well it's I take the the
Starting point is 00:46:09 weirdest story that I always say and it and so I've been with my husband for 15 years and um when we were first going out I we were invited by charity to go to uh an event at the Albert Hall on the Sunday night. The Saturday night, David had asked me to go to a party of somebody I'd never met. And I just, I was in tears. I just went, please don't make me, please, please, please don't make me. And he was okay. Okay. I mean, I just don't know anybody there. I can't do this. I just can't do this. And afterwards he said, oh, that was the best party. I'm so pleased. I said, can't do this. And afterwards he said, oh, that was the best party. I said, I'm so pleased. I said, I hope you understand. And he did. I told him I'm very shy. I just couldn't handle it. And then the next night we were at the Albert Hall and it was one of the
Starting point is 00:46:56 charities that I'm patron of. And we were there and they came up to me about 10 minutes beforehand and they said, the MC has got food poisoning. Would you mind hosting the event? I mean, yeah, no problem. And his face was, what? Yeah. And I said, I'll be back. I'll come back and see you in the interval.
Starting point is 00:47:13 So I went backstage and I went out on the Albert Hall and hosted a two and a half hour show in the Albert Hall with no script and didn't know what was happening because I wasn't meant to be doing it. And I loved every moment and then came back in the interval and his honestly his sort of jaw was on the floor and he said what you just couldn't come to my mate's party last night that's different this is what this is me this is what I love to do so is that what you're like Rob yeah so like for me like when Gabby said that i went oh for me that's a better out better outcome of it like i'd rather do that on the fly than go oh we're going to a family friend's barbecue and there'll be 50 people there you sort of don't really know and i'll just be like oh god and that's not that's not because now i do a bit of
Starting point is 00:48:00 sort of telling yourself that would be before that growing up it's like all these new people have but when i got a bit older you could go to the pub and drink I sort of got a bit of confidence through the drink because it calmed your nerves and sort of to talk to people but to go into that that kind of situation sober and just talk to people it makes me sort of my shoulders go up straight away but like you say oh can you go and help us out and do that hosting an event there I'd be all over that like Gabby was but But it's strange, isn't it? And do you see it in your kids at all? Like, do you think they're shy? No, they're very – no, they're not.
Starting point is 00:48:30 They're very – do you know what? It's really weird. I was just thinking about a word to describe my girls, and I'd say they're very caring. They're very caring and they're very considerate. Wasn't that a nice thing to suddenly realize? Yeah, they're really caring and considerate. And they're not outgoing, but i wouldn't say they had that they don't have the shyness that i had thank goodness i think that's really interesting because i think a lot of people
Starting point is 00:48:54 would see both of you two as like you know big personalities people that have got absolutely no fear and i think that's a really interesting thing that you know people wouldn't yeah but I knew that even as a child I said I even when I was three and I watched Blue Peter and I pretended I was one of the presenters I knew that I was shy but I knew that that's what I wanted to do yeah I remember when I was like one of my earliest memories was being at a kid's house for a party and I was so shy to ask where the toilet was, I shit myself. And I remember what I did was, it was a game that when you pressed it,
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Starting point is 00:50:03 Don't do that now. Please don't do that. No, but, like, at the time, if my daughter would come over for a party. Don't do that now. Please don't do that now. No, but like, at the time, if my daughter would come over and I said, what happened? She was like,
Starting point is 00:50:08 I was too scared to ask for the toilet roll so I did a poo and used the toilet to cover up the noise. I'd be mortified. Yes. What did your mum do?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Did you ever tell your parents? Yes. I don't know. I don't know. I think, I can't remember. I think I just went to, in the end,
Starting point is 00:50:21 I think someone said, found the toilet roll, I went there and I sort of just sorted myself out. But it's weird to be that shy and then go from that to you know doing what you do but it's just it's a different skill I think but I'll walk into I will talk because I walk everywhere and I I bought everybody rigid about it but I bought if I can I walk sort of seven miles a day and but I'll talk to anybody And if I have anybody walking with me, the kids always go,
Starting point is 00:50:50 mom, you can't. I go, yes, I can. And actually most people want to talk. I literally, anything, if I see somebody crying, I'll always go and see if they're okay. Okay. Nowadays, obviously you have to be careful. You don't go too close to somebody, but, but I will, when I used to get the tube everywhere and people would often look at me and go, Oh, how come you're on the tube? Well, how come you're on the tube? And I, where are you going? And then I started talking to them and I've got tubes, people, I've got people singing on the tube. I've got everybody laughing. I've got, I've done it. I've done it all. I'm not going to lie, Gabby. I would absolutely hate that if someone did that on the tube. No, do you know what? I'll tell you, there were two things that happened. There was a guy, I was on the overground and the guy it was really rude to me and he just said what are you
Starting point is 00:51:29 doing on the what are you doing here this isn't for people like you you celebrities you're not supposed you're meant to have a chauffeur driven car and I said what do you mean I'm meant to have a chauffeur driven car and he said well you this not for you I said yes it is it's for everybody and then all these people started joining in. And I said, yeah, I'm going to really annoy you now because we're all going to sing together. He just looked and he said, what do you mean? I said, well, I'm going to sing.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I'm going to get everybody singing because I'm really annoying you now. So we did. Do you know what we sung? What? The most annoying thing I could think of. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. And I got everyone, not everybody joined in, but a lot of people did.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And do you know what he did? He swore at me, kept swearing at me, and he got off at the next stop. And when he got off, everybody cheered and clapped. And that's a true story. I do think that maybe that's like if you are shy like to try and overcome it we both just went right what is the worst thing I could do like because if I'm a bit embarrassed to talk to someone at a barbecue and their family friend what's the worst thing to do go up on stage and do it and it was I was really nervous and stuff
Starting point is 00:52:39 when I first started doing all that presenting and standing myself but I think you sort of counteract it by doing the worst thing you could do. And for you, like if you were shy, the worst thing to do is go and speak to a stranger in the street. You sort of owned it and then not allowed it to be the thing that scares you. Yeah, but actually, no, I think it's because I'm incredibly nosy as well. Fair enough. Just very nosy. When I was a child, people used to, I used to sit on the bus and people would say,
Starting point is 00:53:03 oh my God, I think my husband's going to leave me, as a child. And people still do it now. So people have always told me things, always. So I just made a career out of people telling me things, I suppose. Would you like your kids to do TV or do you reckon they'll go on their own path, Gabby? Well, my oldest wants to be a primary school teacher and that's all she's wanted to do since she was three. Oh, that's nice. And my youngest wants to be a primary school teacher, and that's all she's wanted to do since she was three. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:53:25 And my youngest wants to be an actress, and that's fine if that's what she wants to do. And she wants to only do comedy. Oh, brilliant. Like physical comedy, like falling over, stuff like that. Probably. Also, I don't know if you put videos up of your kids, but if you want to send us those falling over videos,
Starting point is 00:53:41 we can put them on Instagram. No, I never have done. I think they would kill me. Fair enough. That's skateboarding. I don't either, so I totally understand. falling over videos I never have done I think they would kill me fair enough I don't either so I totally understand well if you want to like recreate them
Starting point is 00:53:49 and act it out yourself oh happily I'll do that we'll do a GoFundMe you do yeah if the three of us can go skateboarding together I'm very happy to reenact that moment
Starting point is 00:53:58 with pleasure what a random thing to put on Instagram us three falling over on a skateboard. Rob, you have a question you'd like to ask everyone. Well, yes, Gabby, this is an opportunity for you now because sometimes things frustrate you about the way your partner can parent.
Starting point is 00:54:16 So is there something that your fella does that frustrates you with parenting that you couldn't say to his face without kicking off, but you can say now and hopefully he may hear and and adjust his ways it's something it's your opportunity now to something that you know it's a fair comment but there's never a right time i know well it's interestingly you had dishwasher stuff going on it's to do with the dishwasher he always he has to load the dishwasher when we put anything in the dishwasher he takes it out and re-does it. Oh, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:47 So if he could stop doing that. And the kids, you know, they put their plates on the side and then he'll say, can you put them in the dishwasher? So we'll put them in the dishwasher. And then I hear that noise and I've crept up and I've looked in the kitchen. We have a very small kitchen. I've crept around the corner and I found him taking it out of the bloody dishwasher and re-putting it in. Oh, there's nothing that annoys me more than a dishwasher rearranger.
Starting point is 00:55:10 No, but also he's anal about the dishwasher. I know, but that is a pathetic way to live your life. He sounds like a very different character to you, Gary. He sounds like, I can't imagine you getting upset about the arrangement of a dishwasher. Well, put it this way, whenever he's been out or away or something and he went away he took our youngest skiing because i don't the skiing thing i don't get i'll do zip wiring and air sea rescue skiing no but i thought being on a ski slope would be an absolute no like a child in a sweet shop it's stupid it's stupid you put two bits of long things on your feet and you fly down a mountain. Slide down. No, if you're going to fall, that's fine. Not the sliding down. No, don't like it. I like the bit at the top. I like to stand at the top. It's lovely. Don't like, I like the ski lift, all that. No.
Starting point is 00:56:05 went away and you know what i rung him up and i was giggling he went what is it i mean i've just loaded the dishwasher and i put it on all by myself and it's all higgledy-piggledy and nobody can know and he was pissing himself laughing just like put a pint glass the right way up full just fill with murky water most people ring up and go i decided to get really pissed tonight and i've had my friends around i've got takeaways and, it was the dishwasher! Yes! But, you know, you need to have a bit of balance, the yin to your yang, isn't it, Gabby? Exactly. He's also pretty mad, though. He'll suddenly start doing stupid voices.
Starting point is 00:56:35 He's nothing to do with the industry, and actually I think that's probably a very good thing. Yes, I think so. What does he do? Does he work in sort of creative sort of stuff like that. Yeah, he's a bit of both. He's a very clever guy, but he's more, he can do the academic side as well as the creative side.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Academic and me. I can't imagine you helping your children with their homework. How was homeschooling with your 13-year-old? What happened? Please talk me through the Gabby Roslin schedule of homeschooling. your 13 year old what happened please talk me through the gabby roslin schedule of homeschooling did you bother i'm hoping i'm i'm hoping i'm just upset no i'm laughing because you're so right he did all of the homework and i did i never do that i'm not very good at that i'm not no i'm quite i but no the drama i help them with with their drama. That's a tough one. That's a tough one for you.
Starting point is 00:57:27 And English. No, I like the English. So I love all the anything to do with English literature. I love all of that. So I help them with that and I help them with the art and I help them with the drama. I'm laughing just because it's so true. What's the schedule, though, Gabby, for the homeschooling? Well, actually, they're very lucky because my oldest was at university. Well, actually, they're very lucky because my oldest was at university, so she did a few lectures online. And my youngest school was three to four every day online. Online.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Oh, okay. So you're lucky there. Nailed it. When you're teaching them art, do you ever go, I know literally the richest artist in the world. You can speak to him. Mr. Neil Buchanan. You know what?
Starting point is 00:58:03 I actually, all jokes aside during the lockdown I said to my oldest should we speak to Neil and ask him if he'll do a lesson with our youngest and see if
Starting point is 00:58:16 if he'll do that and she just looked at me she went you're going to ring up Neil Buchanan and say can you teach my youngest?
Starting point is 00:58:25 I went, yeah, it's a good idea, isn't it? She just, honestly, she just thought I'd gone completely mad.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Oh, Gabby, you've been so good. Thank you so much. It's been an absolute pleasure. I think you should write a book, Gabby,
Starting point is 00:58:36 about how to live life because I think you've got it nailed. Oh, bless you. You're so lovely. You know, Rob,
Starting point is 00:58:41 I completely adore you. Josh, I do, and I've never met you. I really do. No, but it's an absolute pleasure to speak to you and what's your podcast Gabby I was on an episode of it
Starting point is 00:58:49 you've got it's not out yet Rob your one they've started with the big names no I didn't he was on the he was absolutely
Starting point is 00:58:57 I texted him ages ago to ask him because I asked him to do everything because I absolutely I'm going to embarrass him now because he doesn't like it but I adore Rob.
Starting point is 00:59:05 I think he's the most wonderful, glorious, I've seen him do his life. I'm actually I might be your stalker because I've been to all his shows. My husband's come along to his shows. My family know my love. My mates go, why does Gabby Rossi always come to your shows? I'm actually
Starting point is 00:59:22 doing a Zoom lesson for Gabby's daughters about comedy next week. She's got me lined up after. What's the name of your podcast, Gabby, for people to go and listen to? Thank you. It's That Gabby Roslin Podcast. It's that simple. Brilliant. Robbie Williams lined up. Dame Judi Dench is an absolute banger of a podcast. Thank you so much, Gabby. Cheers, Gabby. Thanks, guys. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Gabby Roslin. What a woman, Josh. Amazing. I didn't feel it was on brand to discuss The Big Breakfast, but there was so much I wanted to discuss The Big Breakfast. It was absolutely mad. I felt like a right little nerd going, but what about your kids? And she's talking about sea rescues.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I know. You're kind of going, are we missing the lead here? Do you know what I mean? Are we completely missing what? I know it's a parenting podcast. Is everyone at home going, I can't wait for more Neil Buchanan stories. And we we're going do you have a problem disciplining your children also it's like she said she told about three stories about her kids falling over that she's got on video that we can't see but it's still well about so far i know you're like
Starting point is 01:00:19 i'm not sure how i'm enjoying someone describing someone falling over but I am enjoying it when you said have you heard of you've been framed you'll love it I nearly lost my mind she's the great lost you've been framed post she should have been doing that you know someone's on weed and they're really high and giggly but that's her entire life it's like that she's because I actually the reason why i know her is basically i used to do go on a radio show and do little funny stories when it was a bbc radio london and then i got offered a pilot for absolute radio and uh i said oh do you mind helping me out like put it together and advice on doing a show and she went of course and she took me to lunch
Starting point is 01:01:00 bought my lunch gave me so much advice about how to do radio and broadcast and ideas. What were her top tips? Just basically, if you can fall over on air, you'll be great. That was more like just relax and be you and also try and involve, like make the audience feel like they're part of a little gang. And do you know what? More than anything, she was so full of, really, it was just like to go and be myself. But like she calmed me down because she was so positive and full of energy and you know enthusiastic it just made me feel so much better but she didn't need to do that no you know she just did that she was being a nice person and stuff so and we really hit it off and sort of been friends since but yeah she's she's such a lovely
Starting point is 01:01:35 lady but she's like that all the and she does walk she walks ever on her instagram she just walks she just leaves her house listens to a podcast or walks about five hours it just chats to people i'm absolutely following her instagram straight away mainly in case there's any videos of people She just leaves her house, listens to a podcast, walks about five hours and just chats to people. I'm absolutely following her Instagram straight away, mainly in case there's any videos of people falling over. Also, though, I would put myself as a number one Gabby Rosling fan, but I would have been absolutely furious of her singing Mary Poppins on the tube. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:01:59 That's absolutely unacceptable behaviour. You know when people talk about how people don't talk to each other on public transport in London? I think, yeah, that's what I want yeah this is my time on my own and i want someone seeing mary poppins in my face whether they've been on the big breakfast or not kind of weird thing though to be angry at someone for using the tube normally it's the other way yeah i'll reckon yourself i'm gonna say it i think yeah i had other issues going on as well yeah what's what's this really about I think it's also that that shy stuff's really interesting and I think it'll be really you know that'll speak to a lot of um of
Starting point is 01:02:32 our listeners I think yeah but I can't even explain why really I just was really shy nervous kid and then uh I've just sort of I I think I just love comedy and I really wanted to do comedy but I didn't want my shyness to stop me doing it yeah if you know i mean so um but uh yeah because i mean but like when i was 18 i'll just like be too scared to go in a pub on my own i have to wait outside for to meet my friends to walk in with them because i never wanted to walk in a venue on my own but from touring like i would eat alone in a restaurant at eight o'clock wouldn't care i'd go into which is really unprofessional because that's when your show starts yeah yeah i'm normally half hour late, really.
Starting point is 01:03:05 I've all fit down. Sorry, guys. I was on Wagamama's on my own. A couple of reddies in the interval and we're ready to go. But yeah, so I can talk to anyone now, really. But I do think, though,
Starting point is 01:03:17 sometimes I go into a bit more of a Rob show mode headspace. But yeah, it's just, but also people grow up and they're different. The person you are at 14, like you say say you're never the same person throughout the whole of your life you evolve you change i love stand up and i think i'll just stand up forever but
Starting point is 01:03:33 i wouldn't be surprised in 50 or when i'm 50 or 60 i just open a shop or something and do something else i think ed gamble that's ed gamble said that to me for the week and i was quite chilled about it was like are you so relaxed about it? I went, well, the thing is, Ed, I've got a few jokes. I'll say them. If they work, they work. If they don't, they don't. And if I can't do this anymore, I'll open a shop or something.
Starting point is 01:03:54 What would your shop be? Beckett's Bats. Sandwiches. Just sell sandwich shops. It's quite an easy thing. Also, I've never eaten a sandwich I couldn't have made better myself. Have you? I've never eaten a sandwich I thought I couldn't have made that better.
Starting point is 01:04:13 No, I mean that. Do you think you'd do some trades because you were the guy that used to be on Mock the Week? Do you think some people would come in purely for the night? Yeah, a couple of gags. I'd have like, yeah. But they'll be renamed after different panel shows. Yeah, exactly. I'm trying to think of some now, but I can't.
Starting point is 01:04:31 But if anyone wants to write in with the menu for Beckett's back. What I lied to you is basically Tudor Surprise, but it's salmon. So that was amazing. I really enjoyed talking to Gabby Roslin. It's also very exciting. It's very exciting when someone knows Neil Buchanan. Oh, having Neil Buchanan on Speed Dial. I bet his kids' artwork's so good.
Starting point is 01:04:55 I was going to say, that'd be a good question for Neil Buchanan would be, when your kid had art homework, was you just tempted just to, you know? What is it? Where'd you draw the line because i think if my kids started drawing the line is one of the things he's so good at but if my kids did stand up i find it so hard not to give them advice of what to do yeah because you know i don't know
Starting point is 01:05:15 but after 12 years of doing it i do know best if they've just started i know exactly what you need i may not be able to do it every time but i know exactly what you need to do at that point but it's very difficult for new bookhannon's son to submit for their art gcse a 50 foot picture of a bicycle made up of bicycle parts on a lawn yeah where's your coursework and come to the park follow me have you got um scaffolding and a 20 foot ladder um thank you to Gabby thank you all for listening we'll be back on Friday with you know
Starting point is 01:05:49 some more Instagram correspondence I'd say we've got a lot to get through so I see bangers coming in yeah so we'll see you on Friday get us an Instagram get us an email see you then
Starting point is 01:05:58 bye bye

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