Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S02 EP31: Tony Bellew

Episode Date: May 7, 2021

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL' -S02 EP31: Tony BellewJoining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) during the lockdown and beyond is the former WBC Cruiserweight Champion boxer, Tony Bellew.Tony's book 'Everybody Has a Plan Until They Get Punched in the Face' is out now!(As are Josh and Rob's books. Don't be shy....)Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks. xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @lockdownparent INSTAGRAM: @lockdown_parentingA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The show in which Rob and I discuss what it's like to be a parent during lockdown, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, in an effort to make some kind of sense of the current situation... And to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills... Each episode, we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you, the listener, with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because, let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing.

Hello, and you are listening to Lockdown Parenting Hell with... Tan Tan, can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. And can you say Josh Widdicombe? Widdicombe. Josh? Josh. Widdicombe. Widdicombe. Yeah, well done. There we go go this is from deborah guy uh that is tanith i'm a huge fan of the podcast and a listener from the very beginning so i thought it was about time i asked my two-year-old daughter tanith to say your names that's a nice name i've never heard of tanith before no a tan tan was a good uh shortening tan tan uh is that what she calls a tan tan she said that in the recording. Oh, it sounds a bit like drugs though, doesn't it? Sort of sound a bit like a tantan.

You got any tantan? Yeah, I've got a big one this weekend. You still know that guy with a tantan? How are you, Rob? What, Rob? Yeah? Shall I just tell this story that I trailed on Tuesday? Yeah.

I can't believe I've not told this before. Is this your story about the baby at your gig? Baby at the gig? Yeah, I can't believe you've not told it on here before. I can't believe I've not told this before. Is this your story about the baby at your gig? Baby at the gig. Yeah, I can't believe you've not told it on here before. I can't believe I've not told it either. So I come out, second half. Yeah. And initially I just hear a slight baby crying when I'm like saying a joke.

Yeah. And I think that can't be, can't be true, can it? You know, because a lot of these theaters are haunted as well, Rob. So that's partly in my mind. Yeah. So then I'm like, it happens again. I'm like, is there, sorry, is there a baby here? And they were like, yeah.

And all the people around them were like, yeah, there is. And so this is what had happened. What would you have done? They've got a one-year-old. Yep. Or maybe they've got a a one-year-old yep or maybe even younger maybe a six-month-old or whatever their babysitter had called in sick just before they were leaving the house yeah so they thought we'll just take the baby that no that's not not acceptable get this they got to the was like, well, did they not stop you when you were coming in? They said they charged us a quid for a baby ticket.

A quid? A quid! Also, no offence, but that should be your call. It shouldn't be the theatre's call. It's surely the performance call. Well, I'm going to say it, Rob. I reckon that quid was just someone going, I'm just going to chance my army.

Pocket me a quid. A quid for just someone going, I'm just going to chance my army. Pocket with quid. A quid for a baby ticket? Absolute joke. One of my worries is I don't want to do down my performance that night because it was a lovely show but the baby did manage to sleep through

the whole of the first half, which is worrying. So the baby cried a little bit but then went to sleep? It cried a little bit at the start of the second half. Oh, so it slept through the whole first half, which is worrying. So the baby cried a little bit, but then went to sleep? It cried a little bit at the start of the second half. Oh, so it slept through the whole first half? Yeah. And then, obviously, it got louder in the interval, and then it woke up.

All those people enjoying themselves, chatting and laughing. Some hubbub. A lot of people going, this is fucking dog shit. Shall we just go to the pub? And then when you came back out and it all died down again, it got shocked by the changing volume and popped up. And was it awake the whole second half? No, I think they might have taken it out.

I mean, it was astonishing. That's ridiculous. You can't do that. I mean, if that happened to us, you either both don't go or one of you go. I'd just say to Lou, you go with your mate and I'll have the baby and I'll see Josh next time. Because no offence, you're very good at what you do, but it's not like, you know, when like someone's doing their final tour and they're 75.

Yeah, exactly. It's not the Elton John goodbye Yellow Brick Road tour, is it? It's not. I think Josh Whittakin will play Nottingham again. Do you know what, Rob? I'm going to hope i do me too nottingham deserves it and so do you josh exactly i had a thoroughly good time i went to watch nottingham forest in the afternoon that was quite a drab game and then i went and performed to a baby in the evening i had a lovely day all things told what would be great that is a great anecdote for the child when they're grown up that they got taken to their first gig one but what would be even better than a joke if it turned out that and it won't because

you're a good guy but you were a wrong and you get caught up in all the sort of you know celeb sleaze stuff like you know a bit you tree then the anecdote really takes on an extra level that yeah they got they got taken to a pedophile show a baby. And I'm not saying you should go down that route to improve that person's anecdote. No, I'm going to say now. I'm just saying they're the levels. And that's totally not the anecdote because you're not. You're a good guy.

But if you were to, you know, nonce it up, that anecdote really starts to catch light. I'm going to say we discussed you stealing from Waitrose last episode and things have really snowballed. Yeah. Now I'm accusing people of paedophilia. I'm not accusing, I'm just suggesting it. No, yeah.

Just suggesting. I'm not, you know, obviously. We're very anti, just to be clear. I couldn't be more anti-paedos. Yeah. There'll never be an about turn on that. No, that is the policy of the podcast. Yeah.

And I know when everyone also says, you know you know if you disagree on things you need to be open to discussion with other people and see they're not this one buddy no no i'm entrenched i'm concreted in on my view on nonsense yeah you do you know what ever since i've known you've had that view you haven't changed it once no i haven't consider it a credit to you how have you been rob how have i been i've been all right, actually. Pretty good. They're getting busier, the girls, which is good. They do ballet at school and then there's football on a Sunday.

So we've got quite a nice balance. I do feel guilt, though. My five-year-old can't swim yet. She was doing lessons before COVID hit. And now we're trying to get her into some swimming lessons, but everywhere's booked up. It's really difficult. And I want her to be able to swim so I want to try and get her swimming and also riding a bike so there might by the end of the summer you know does she want to do

them is she fussed she's half mentioned the bike and I think she she loves swimming and they would want to go so yes I think so because they're sort of kids at school talking about swimming and bikes and stuff but um I want to try and get that sorted it's very difficult to find the time to go so yes i think so because they're sort of kids at school talking about swimming and bikes and stuff but um i want to try and get that so it's very difficult to find the time to go and do it but i want to book her in for something so that's my that's my goal this this summer but you can do like book like intensive courses or something where they go in half term every day they're all booked up so i don't know what to do like when people do that week-long driving thing yeah but i'm thinking because there's two of them and the youngest is three and a half but she's really physically quite capable and confident and stuff i think i think i i'm tempted to just splash out on excuse the pun lovely really nice stuff

splash out you know and on a instructor that i'll book them to do it in a week and really you know jump in the deep end with it and it'll be really simple swim time and then let them have direct one-on-one like one-on-one with both the girls and try and get them swimming together and see if that's oh and i might even do what i might even do is a few other friends have got kids the same age get like five and then split trying you know get four or five kids and split the cost and then you create your own little class and then you can just go and do it in a public swimming pool. That's nice. Because we did do swimming early on, and she didn't like it.

But it's one of those things you don't want to get too late. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. And to be fair, she's still only young, and there's been lockdown, and the swimming pools have literally been shut, and we had her booked in courses. But that's for you. You can't be too harsh on yourself. But it's something I would like to do by the end of summer, I think.

By the end of summer. Good think. By the end of summer. Good idea. That's the plan. But, oh yeah. Oh, the only other thing that happened the other day was, I,

I bit the five-year-old by accident when we were playing. Those teeth. Those teeth. I know, we were playing, we were playing a, like a wrestling game like that. And then I was like,

you know, when you sort of like pretend to like, you're a crocodile, you nibble on them. And then just sort of like, I just did it a bit too hard. And she was like, oh yeah, but it was an accident. Cause I was like you know when you sort of like pretend like you're a crocodile you nibble on them and then just sort of like I just did it a bit too hard and she was like

oh yeah but it was an accident because I was doing it as her arm went in oh it was really awful did you leave a mark a tiny one but you know what kids are like

the tiny mark like you can barely see it and she's like oh I've got a mark I've got a mark and she runs to her mum going daddy bit me and I was like

this looks bad like an Italian footballer yeah look with these chompers also it's real it's real uh do our diet time now with the five-year-old's teeth because she's lost the top two when she was younger just in an accident and then the bottom two have fallen out oh natural and she now looks like she's a meth head and the teeth are coming through and it's it's all about the genes did she get the Beckettett ones is she getting a pair of beckett chompers we'll find out in the next year i'd say um good luck to because

she could look for a few years absolutely insane well presumably did you have a brace rob not on the top ones but the bottom ones that could cage those is oh yeah i'd have to you know if that you know that that metal they try and put around like a superhero and they arrest them in X-Men? Special cage for Magneto. But no, the bottom ones, I had an extra tooth, so I had that one taken out and I had a brace on the bottoms. But the top ones are pretty straight and they're not that goofy, so they didn't need to go back.

But the bottom ones were a bit sticky out, so I had a brace on the bottom ones. But these front two ones, I had at the age of six and they've been the same size and my head's got bigger luckily. But from about six to 15, I looked absolutely mental. It was tooth then face. You'd see the tooth coming first. Oh, well, you know what? You've made the best of it.

And now I'd say I more mention your teeth because I know it's a thing than I ever notice it, if you know what I mean. Yeah, if you type in blonde big teeth, I'm the first thing that comes up on Google, followed by some absolutely disgusting pornography. I once was in a nightclub. Sorry, I just... I was about to try blonde big teeth to check your thing,

and then you finished saying what you're saying. That's why I kind of paused. I mean, it's not for look. So I wouldn't say i'm not it's not bad i was once in a nightclub and i saw you know when you get you clock people that have clocked you yeah but they're trying to work out who you are and then they're obviously googling to try and work out who i was yeah and i looked their phone, like just caught it in my eye and they'd googled ginger comedian and they were looking

at a picture of Andrew Lawrence You're not ginger Well that's what I wanted to bloody well say mate. Do you know what you're like sort of ashy blonde where mine goes a bit does yours go lighter in the summer? It does go lighter in the summer.

Yeah, mine goes really light in the summer. And people accuse me of dyeing it, which I don't. It just goes darker in the winter and lighter in the summer because there's more sun on it. That's just, you know. But if I was dyeing it, then I'd have blonde hair all year, wouldn't I? Yeah. Exactly.

Anyway, so I do find there's a real bit of... You get a bit of shade from people that don't like blonde people and just accuse them of being ginger. There's nothing wrong with being ginger. No, no, no. But they will say, oh, you're ginger. But as if it's like a sort of like... My hair was so blonde when I was a kid.

Yeah. It was so light. It used to... When we went to Laser Quest and there was a UV light... Yeah, that happened to me. It used to glow in the dark. And my teeth. Well, of course you do. You must have been a sitting duck, mate. to glow in the dark. And my teeth. Of course you do.

You must have been a sitting duck, mate. No wonder I was shit at Quasar. Awful. It was ridiculous. Everyone would see me running around. Teeth and hair blasting out across the place. All I am is teeth and hair. When I used to go to Spain, people used to touch my hair and say Rubio, Rub, because I was blonde and give me things.

Oh, wow. That's nice. I've got an email about young Josh. Have you seen that in the emails about you, Josh? No. I've got a picture coming through talking about your blonde hair. Here it is. Hi, Rob and Josh.

I went to primary school with Josh. Is this another one? Chloe Willis back in the day. Wills, Chloe Wills. Sorry, Chloe and Josh. I went to primary school with Josh. I was... Is this another one? Chloe Willis back in the day. Wills. Chloe Wills. Sorry, Chloe Wills. My husband, Mike, absolutely loves your podcast, and he played me the episode with the Steph Tiley gate,

and it made me laugh so much. Yeah, lies from Steph Tiley. Yeah. Steph Liley, that's what I call her. Yeah, the one that got away. She could have had Widdicombe. Look at her now. Steph, I think, to be fair, you made a bit of an escape.

He's hard work, isn't he? You're a bit hard work sometimes. I'm joking. You're a lovely guy. Josh, do you remember running at the Marble Mania club at school? Oh my God, you fucking virgin. What is Marble Mania?

Do you know what, Rob? Yeah. I'm going to say it. I was a fucking virgin at 10. Yeah. Oh, slow coach. Get some cider and get down to the park and get your end away.

I don't know why it's called bloody Bromley or wherever you grew up, but at the age of 10. Josh, do you remember what happened to Marble Mania? So, actually, Rob, this is the kind of thing you'd hear about in a book that Alan Sugar would write about being a young businessman, right? Yeah. Now, you've covered what my school was like, so it won't surprise you.

There was a brief period when marbles were very popular because I grew up in victorian times yes yeah place started called the house of marbles that sold marbles in bubby tracy and we all just got into marbles yeah of course and then me and my friend thomas started an after-school club and it wasn't really marble themed but we kind of piggybacked on the marble thing okay yeah uh what did you do uh everyone would come around to my house yeah and then we'd sell stuff uh that we didn't want in a shop okay yeah yeah and then we charge everyone a pound to get in and then uh we borrowed christopher campkin's disco likes yeah and we put them on and then I played a mixtape that my brother had made me,

which contained Rhythm is a Dancer. Yeah. And On a Ragatip by SL2, if you remember that song. Okay, yeah. And then we'd all watch Neighbours. Okay, right. And it was called Marble Mania. Did you play marbles or did you show each other your marbles?

We'd show each other. We never really played marbles. It was more of a kind of a show. Can you play marbles? Well, show each other your marbles we'd show each other we never really played marbles it was more of a kind of marbles well no one really understands what the rules are i just really looked at them and they're all shiny yeah yeah exactly you trade them and stuff like that but we didn't really even do that well here it says do you remember running marble mania club obviously you do i've got to be honest it's still a sore point for me it was the hottest ticket in town it was the hottest ticket and i'd say hottest ticket is a strong phrase as is the phrase town you're clicking because you're excited aren't you yeah here they are it was the hottest ticket i was really counting my money me and thomas were making about a tenner each a week from it and we were 10

can you imagine what that kind of money is like? You actually earned more money there than you did in the first week of lockdown. And I'm not going to lie, Rob, we didn't declare it. You'd have the tax man in your case. According to this, you did Marble Mania. Richard Sunak trying to deal with the debt by getting on to me by Marble Mania. According to this, you did Marble Mania for 10 years with five shows a week. Here we go. My older sister would come home

with prizes she'd won in the dance competition. Oh, yes, please. I don't even remember the dance competition. That sounds like the kind of program... I'd say, Rob, if I was to draw a comparison

between Marble Mania and anything I've experienced in later life, have you ever been to Wayne Lineker's Ocean Beach? No, I haven't been there. It's a similar vibe. It's a similar vibe. Also, you know, he trades on the Lineker name the same way we traded on Marble.

I would say, though, that the host of the party, Wayne Lineker, is definitely not a virgin. If he was a virgin, he'd be one of the greatest scoops of all time anyway um i wondered if you're if you had started it up again now you have children no i haven't started up marble mania because i live in east london yeah well you could try my um my mom and dad also found a load of play group primary school photos i thought rob might appreciate the one i was found of you so this is you when you're really blonde hair rob and sue wills they used to run the uh the barn don't the yearly fundraising barn

don't marble mania could be a great thing to we're um well we've got big plans eventually to do uh to a festival of lockdown parenting health so marble mania could be one of the tents exactly that'd be great i'd be up for that um i wasn't going to mention this today rob yes but i'll do i'll briefly because i'll talk about it on Tuesday, because I want to ask your advice on how to do promo, because you've got... Now, you've inspired me, Rob, because two weeks ago you said you had written a book that's coming out.

Yes. I have written a book, and it is being announced today, Rob. Oh, that's exciting. What's it called? It's called Watching Neighbours Twice a Day, and it's about... It's a good title, isn't it? It's a really good title.

It's about growing up. Tell that to my editor, Rob. Yeah, it's not jump off the shelf easy, is it? What were they suggesting it called? Josh Winnicombe from The Last Leg on Channel 4. At the end of the day, discussion did uh go round and round until the agreement was made that no one gives a shit about the title so they'll just let me have whatever i want which is very nice of them what's the cover gonna be well the book is about me

growing up in the middle of nowhere in the 90s and my obsession with tv and each chapter uses a different tv show as a starting point to tell the story of my childhood in the 90s. That's a very clever way of doing it, isn't it? It's a lovely, nostalgic take on the TV we all watched in the 90s. But also, there is a chapter which talks about Marble Mania, Rob. So I wasn't going to mention it today. Yeah. It's a Marble Mania chapter. The live and kicking chapter touches heavily on Marble Mania.

If you want to pre-order, why wouldn't you? Oh, well, I'm going to read it, mate. I tell you what, I can't promise I'll read it all, but I'll definitely buy one. Well, you know what, Rob? I'll give you one for free. But if any, you know,

it's available to pre-order now, so do go on. And why not, while you're on Amazon or Waterstones or your independent bookseller website, order Rob's as well. And then you can hold them both up at Christmas, listen to the podcast. It'll look like we're talking to each other. amazon or waterstones or your independent bookseller website order robs as well yeah and then you can hold them both up at christmas listen to the podcast it'll look like we're talking to

each other yes that's a great shout get um watch your neighbors twice a day and a class act from all your favorite bookshops there we go but on tuesday i want to ask you because i'm not very comfortable with promo and you're very good at it so i'll ask you about that on tuesday let's work you need a strategy that's what you need mate you need an angle yeah work. So I'll ask you about that on Tuesday. Let's work. You need a strategy. That's what you need, mate. You need an angle. We'll work it out. We'll work it out. The links are on, you know. Do go out and pre-order them

because I've put a lot of work into this and I'm not going to lie to you. I've got a baby due. He's got a baby due. He's going to have to... He's turning down work to look after his child. Exactly.

If you can, please buy the books. We would really appreciate it. Yeah. Josh, should we introduce our guest? He's got a book out as well. It's Book Central's book central tony bellews everyone's got a plan until you get punched in the face his autobiography very interesting his editor didn't stand up to him like they're nice to them to me yeah yeah yeah the editor's mum's a dick was the actual original title that they were fine with until tony stopped the joke But that's about his life story. And he went from a very sort of uncompromising,

tough upbringing in Liverpool all the way to winning the world title at Cruiserweight at Goodison Park, the stadium of his hometown club. No, I remember watching it on the telly and it was incredible. Google, if you go on YouTube, basically in that fight, he gets knocked down in the first round and then he comes back to win. And it's absolutely incredible. So Google Tony Bellew macabre at Goodison Park in front of all the Everton fans. It's amazing.

And he's an incredible bloke. He's very intense and scary. I love the intensity. You know, like he's sportsman times 10. Most sports people you interview are intense. Yes. He's intense times 10. Yeah, but he's very fun and loving as well but he's got that switch which he needs to be good at what he does but he what's interesting about this chat though is i think we're quite um modern in the in our

approach to parenting and stuff where he's still a bit more old school which is fine and like and and i know it's good to you know he's a bit more takes all, which is fine. And I know it's good that, you know, he's a bit more. Takes all sorts, Rob. Exactly. But I think it's good to talk about it, though, and so that we've got all different angles. But yeah, he's very, like, old school dad. But yeah, he absolutely loves his kids to pieces.

But he's got teenagers. And this was recorded in lockdown. And it's sort of fairly like a bleak point of lockdown in January time, I think, wasn't it? Yeah. And I should say, after all of the anecdotes about you being on a golf course, finally, we've got one that really kicks off.

That's a good story. And this is Tony Bellew. Enjoy. Do you know anything about the podcast, Tony? Really? Mate, I haven't got the slightest clue. I'm just going to be honest yeah no point in life no it's better to be honest because you'll catch me out without a shadow of a doubt so just please

let me know we're not swearing no swearing as much as you want mate oh no don't know about that mate oh so you're telling us not to swear i know i'm trying to tell me not to swear i'm trying to cut it to down a little bit so you know I'm trying my very best to not call anyone **** or **** or **** or ****, especially in front of the kids lately. I've become so much more aware. But this homeschooling, mate, it's ****ing me up. It's killing me.

How many kids have you got and how old are they, Tony? I've got four boys. I've got one who's 15, thinks he can take me. I've got another one who's 12, who probably can take me because he's that big and heavy. I've got one that is 15, thinks he can take me. I've got another one who's 12, who probably can take me because he's that big and heavy. I've got one that is eight. Sorry, no, he's not. He's nine.

I've got one who's nine, and then I've got one who's just turned one a few days. Oh. No, a couple of weeks ago, so. So how's the brutal return to a little one? You've got the little one now. How's that? I've started all over again, mate,

so I've basically fucked myself over good and proper. You know what? Do you know what? to a little one you've got the little one now how's that i've started all over again mate so basically fucked myself over good and proper you know do you know what i've looked at it so i've got four boys uh three boys i've i've just i've looked off now i've lost them you know they're just the mummy's boys and i've lost them so this i had this the most recent one well she had the most recent one i obviously just put them there as we do. And this was my latest project to make him one of my own. This child is like, he's going to be me. He's going to be, he is a reincarnation of myself.

He is one that I've been able to give full attention. He is my personal project. So all the other boys have to just leave him alone and let me do my work on this one that's right oh so it's almost like a project how's it going so far i'm trying i'm trying but you know he's tough i can say that much he's one years old and he's tough as nails mate he doesn't give a shit he can't walk yeah which is completely understandable so the setup is basically you feel like because you'd be like you're doing boxing for 10 years and doing all sorts of things 20 mate don't do me on service okay 20 years but over the time of the kids you know being small kids and you're away at camp for

like months and stuff so now you're fully retired and you're at home so in what regard are you trying to make this child your projects is it because they're softer because they're mummy's boys and that you want a daddy's boy? Yeah, they're mummy's boys and they've just been given everything they want. I mean, I've had to take, as you can see that picture in the background there, it's a Jaws picture.

Because I've got my middle child who's 12, our Kobe. He loves the old style things. So he loves all the old school movies. He basically begged me for the TV with a big back on it, like the old televisions he wanted in his room. He likes a ghetto blaster, and I'm just like, I don't need these problems. But the mother just gives in to everything.

This is what I'm saying. I've lost them. So she just gives them and gives them and gives them. That's yours is a perfect example of what the fuck is going on in my house. How can a 12-year-old boy want... He thought he was a shark when he was example of what the fuck is going on in my house how can a 12 year old boy want he thought he was a shark when he was nine what the fuck i mean it's insane so i've i've finally got after all these years i finally took that out of his room we've got

that rid of that now so that's on the top floor in this office area i'm in now um these are just little kind of i'm giving you little things here that just go on in my crazy-ass house. Did you buy the big TV with the back? No, mate, I didn't. I didn't. Because, you know, I couldn't find one. That's the only reason I didn't buy one. And, I mean, I could have got it, but she couldn't find it.

That's the most important thing. If she can't find it, they don't get it. If she can find it, she buys it and it arrives at the house. And I have no say whatsoever on the finances that are going in my house and what gets bought what comes in and what goes out all that i've got control of is the cook because i cook the food and that's all i can do in this house everything i'm a good cook i can cook i mean you don't get this fat mate by not being able to cook you know what i mean i'm a greedy bastard. But listen, I cook.

That's what I do. And I get told to clean certain areas in the house. I'll clean the kitchen really well. I can stack a dishwasher like no other fucker on the planet. What's your top technique? What's your top technique for the dishwasher? My top technique is a space between each dish. So, you know, don't just jam them all in.

I can fill every little slide and compartment. So you can't put like 10 plates in 10 spaces if there's 10 spaces you've got to put five plates that way they all get washed back to from properly yeah then i have some forks i put up i put a space in between everything so i utilize a dishwasher perfectly i can't believe i'm talking about this i'm interested does that mean you're doing twice as many washes than everyone else, though? It doesn't, mate, because I predict the amount that I'm going to use. So sometimes I do a wash before I start the cooking

for the night. Sometimes it just depends on how much I'm cooking, what kind of meals I'm cooking. But, yeah. Are you coping with retirement okay? I haven't got time to think about it, mate. It's over. So what does your day involve now with homeschooling and stuff?

Are you doing all of that? My day? Well, I'm not going to tell Liza. There's no point in doing that because she might see this and then she might just give me a slap and put me straight. So the best thing to do is just tell the truth. And the fact of the matter is I don't do the homeschooling because you know why? Because I can't do it. I had a big argument with her over an eight-year-old's homework. You know, Johnny took 15 pence.

He had a pound. And we went back and forth. And I was like, he had 85 pence. She was like, no, he didn't. So I was like, yes, he did. Don't tell me. My son's sitting there. He's laughing.

He finds it absolutely hilarious because he can do the maths quicker than the two of us. So I went through a bit of an episode over the weekend and i thought like i was annoyed means all day saturday i was not happy and i was on i was on the edge of just it must be it must be so hard though when you go from like your career of where you are you know putting yourself and your health on the line and that adrenaline you're pumped up to what is sort of people would call domestic bliss but it is it is boring compared to the adrenaline that you've been getting through training and stuff like that.

So you need that outlet. You need something, mate. Everybody needs something. So do you know what? I know I rant on a little bit and I go a bit off the scale, but you know this lockdown, at the start of it, definitely, I've got to say, at the start of it, it was absolutely brilliant.

My family, we got into a routine I love this and it just I've spent more time with my kids in the last 12 months than I have in the last 10 years I mean quality time because as you can imagine me career just takes over everything and I was so driven to become what I actually ended up being that it took over me life box and game first if he came before me that it took over me life boxing came first it became before my wife it came before my kids and everyone used to say to me yeah but you're doing it for your kids but you know what mate i went i was doing it to become world champion well after i became world champion yes i'm doing it for my kids the financial side of things and stuff like

that but make no mistake about it i wanted to become world champion i was driven from a year from the ages of 14 15 i was insanely driven trying to become world champion so i've done that for me in the process i've been earning for them yes the financial and the lucrative side that was for them 100 but that belt that i've got that she's actually shoved in here but that belt that I've got, that she's actually fucking shoved in here. See what I mean? Bottom drawer of a cupboard.

In the office, shoved in a cupboard. Look at that. That is the pride and joy of my lifelong ambition and goal, and she just shoves it in her fucking cupboard on the top floor of the office. At least the Jaws picture's on display. That's the main thing. The Jaws picture's on display, and that's in the cupboard. Surely it should have a box or just a towel.

But that's there, isn't it? The wedding photo. Yeah, just another day, isn't it? So, you know. It's an amazing bit of kit. So that shoved in the... I'll put it back because if I leave it out as if I'm proud,

undoubtedly she will come back at some stage and just put it back in the cupboard. Yeah, that's what it was all about. So lockdown one was amazing because you got that time with Gigi. How is it now? Brilliant, Rob. She does everything, the wife.

So she does all the homeschooling. She cleans like a maniac and that winds me up. And then, you know, I try and have time for those. Like, it gets to about half eight, nine o'clock at night. And I'm like, it's our time now, love. Let's watch a program. Let's watch Flick on something. And she's just like, I'm tired and I'm going to to bed it's like anything to ignore me and stay away from me you know you basically

being on my way all day not spoke a word really gets there by eight eight nine o'clock and it's here see you after and i'm like what what the going on you know what i mean you just i'm trying to watch i'm trying to stay so we we've got something in common besides these little fuckers who just take over everything, called children. And, mate, it's just hard. And does your 15-year-old think he can take you now? Yes, mate, he does. Swagger, yeah.

He does, mate, and he's going to learn the hard way that, listen, Dad did not get us to a house like this and drive a fucking car like that by tickling people's arses. He turned it by slapping people's arses and dealing with big, strong-arse men. So, boy, pay attention if you're going to watch this. Are they going to be boxers? No, no, no, don't be daft.

I mean, I haven't been punched in the face, Josh, for 20 years just to see them get punched as well, mate. So that's just not the plan. We had a little incident. We were at our lodge in Wales. I've got a lodge in Perthelly that we love to go to and spend our time there. So there's a nine-hole golf course on there.

I'm trying my best to get better at this golf, which is not going very well, but I'm trying still. I love the game. And I'm walking on the golf course with him. Me and my lad were walking along, and I'm carrying the golf bag, and he nudged into me. And I went, what are you doing? And he went, don't start. ac rydw i'n mynd i'r cwrs golch gyda mi a'r fadrion a rydyn ni'n mynd ymlaen ac rydw i'n cymryd y golch yn ôl ac fe wnaeth ei nodi ataf i ac fe wnaeth i ddweud beth ydych yn ei wneud ac fe wnaeth ei ddweud peidiwch â dechrau, fe wnaeth ei ddweud nad ydych am unrhyw hyn ac fe wnaeth i ddweud, dyna'r ffordd rwy'n ei ddweud,

mae'n dweud nad ydych am unrhyw hyn ac fe wnaeth i ddweud, gwnewch eto, gobeithio, gwnewch eto ac mae'n dweud wrthi i mi, iawn, fe wnaeth ei ddweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, roedd yn dweud, ro again please come again and he says to me really okay he said he said put the golf bag down i said no problem okay let's put the god we're gonna do this okay let's put together put the golf bag down it's the best bit he said take the glove off because i don't want no excuses the golf glove i had on me on me right hand take the glove off because i don't need no excuses i i said are you serious? Or for really, at this point, he's doing this. He's shooken his shoulders.

How big is he at 15? He's bigger than me. Six foot four. I'm six foot three. Size 11 shoe. Same as me. And he says, yeah,

take the glove off. I don't want any excuses. So I said, this is going to be quick. It's going to be swift. And you're not going to know what's going down. He said to me, I'm ready for this. He's been watching too much UFC by the way okay bear in mind there's other keen golfers walking around in Pifelli around this course it from a distance he's six four four I'm six four three this looks like two big

hairy ass men about to go for it I put the golf bag down I've took the glove off he charges at me and tries to take me legs. Like, I told you, he's been watching UFC like a lunatic. So I've kicked back and put my weight on the front. I just leaned on him at this point. At this point now, he's trying to have a wrestle. He's struggling. He's felt the weight of me, literally,

and he's understood I'm now in trouble. I just then mounted him put me arms in this his arms are in this position i just stuck them i put me one knee on there the other knee on there so he's on the floor like this yeah and i'm over the top of him and i just said now you're going to learn and i just give him there's one slap i said are you still want to carry on son or have you had enough yet? And he went, this is nothing. Is this all you've got?

Another slap. At this moment in time, two men just walked right past me and just looked at me and shook their head. I didn't even have the energy to explain to them. He's my 15 year old son. I'm his dad. Do you think that would have explained it? I don't know if that meant it better.

So, knees, I just, I leant on him, kept him in this position with me knees there like that's for the listeners that's like hands by the head like a kind of hands up my knees are pressed down on the sides of him and I'm over the top of mana just he couldn't get me off me to listen I'm 16 17 stone he's about a 10 11 stone ring and wet he's's built like a beanpole.

Yeah. So I just continued to give him little light slaps across the face every 10, 20 seconds for the space of about three to four minutes. We got up and in the end he said, yes, Dad, okay, I understand. I'm not ready to take it and I'm not going to try this challenge again.

I'm sorry, Dad. No problem. Son, no problem. Get up, give him a little slap on the ass, send him on his way. I'm guessing that no problem son no problem get up give him a little slap on the ass sent him on his way I'm guessing that's gonna give me another 12 to 18 months hopefully two years until it comes again so you know it might not end as well the second time round it did end pretty well at first he went back home to mum she was in the lodge waiting for us to come back I said love he got his

lesson learned today he He was embarrassed. He didn't want to explain to his mum that dad had just taught him a lesson in life. And that was it, mate. You know, that was the last episode. You've spoken to him about it since? Every time he tries to come on and says like, yeah, dad, I think it's time. I just say, son, remember the golf course?

And he goes, yeah, do that, yeah. Not today. I just say, son, don't start. The golf course instinct can come up again. Because that's bold. I know he's a little bit taller than you, but it's so bold at that young age to think like that. Because it's not like he's 80. Eddie Hearn and Barry Hearn had a little spa, didn't they?

But Barry Hearn wasn't a proper boxer and stuff. But there will be a stage. That's the thing, Rob. With my kids, they've never seen that side of me. My horrible, nasty, vicious side, which I have got, and I understand that, and I've took that on board, it only ever came out in a boxing world or when someone challenged me in a car while I'm driving.

It does come out there as well, to be honest. They've never seen that side of me so the all as I am to them is big soft and dopey because I just I take everything in my stride me wife's the boss in the house I mean the wife's the boss in everyone's house and anyone who's watching this tries to explain that she's not you're lying you dickhead don't stupid. So my kids see that side of me and think, yeah, my dad's a pushover. So that's why he's challenged me, really. You know, if I was to show them, right,

I'm from here, I've done this, I've done that. I used to do that when I was your age. I was doing this when I was your age. They'd be like, not messing with me, Dad. But I don't. I'm a big softie to my kids. So that's why he's been challenged. Did they come to your fights when you were a boxer?

Me eldest son, Corey, only ever came to one. The greatest night of my career. I'd say life, but, you know, she's here. That was an incredible fight. It was at Goodison Park. I mean, I'm not even a sort of, like, you know, Liverpudlian or Everton fan, but seeing you win that title at Goodison Park,

the crowd going mad, and also Tony gets knocked down at the start and then you come back. It's definitely worth a look. That's what reminded me, Rob. No, but I think it makes it even better. It got me nose broke. It was a flash knockdown.

It was a bit more of a... Oh, it was a flash. Literally, he snapped me nose and I ended up doing a rollover to which judges thought I was doing a gymnastics kind of thing and gave 10 points each. Yeah. But you come back to win in quite devastating fashion

and you could see the emotion on your face. And I think your son was sneaked in. You never really wanted him there. Is that right? He snuck in to watch. You know what? I'd always, I never wanted my kids to watch me fight ever. I didn't want them to see that part.

The only reason I had Corley at Goodison Park was because I was destined to win a world title from the age and I knew it. I knew at some point I would become world champion and all the stars aligned as they say and at Goodison Park on the 29th of May, my second my middle son's actual birthday

I became a world champion and I had to have Corey there at the time he was 10 years old and it was just unbelievable mate the guys say the greatest night of my career the greatest night of my life really but it was just i can't put into words how much it meant purely for the fact of i've been going to go to some parks watch everton football club every other saturday since i was nine ten years old and everton means everything to me you know i've watched them i've been season tickets older.

I love the club. And if in the ideal world, I would have been a footballer playing for Everton. But the fact of the matter is I was too fat and I wasn't good enough. So, you know, I ended up getting the only chance I got. It's not stopped a lot of Everton players, to be fair. Aye, aye, lad. Jesus Christ, throwing the shots out today.

He's an eye case behind the screen, this fella. Yeah, I know. I'm the top guy on today he's an eye case behind the screen this fella I'm top guy on Zoom the Zoom heart case so it's just my dream was always

to be a footballer I wasn't good enough so the best thing I could do was stick a ring in the middle of Goodison Park which had never

been done before and I just wanted to have one of my kids witness it and obviously Corey was the eldest he was there that night as I say

you know the most amazing feeling ever. I wish I could have just stopped fighting and retired that night in the ring when I won the world title. But it was only at that stage where money started to come into the game for me because all of the fights before that,

some of them were for decent money, it was okay, but none of it was life-changing money. None of it was where I could set my family up for the rest of my life. So none of it was was i hadn't owned a house before that world title fight none of the houses i was in i owned so it wasn't until that world title fight that then you know things went better and as rob touched on i come across david hay and then that's when my life financially changed and that was a massive part of why I've been able to retire when I did. Do you worry that your children are going to have a different upbringing

to you did because of the different money situation? Definitely. I worry about that all the time. I think it's so, with my kids, it's so easy come, easy go. I would think with Corey, you know, when he was born, I was 15 years ago, it's a little bit different because, you know because when Corey was first born, I was living in my first house, our terraced house in Old Swan, which is a tougher part of Liverpool, not like where we are now.

So he's seen the progression. He's been around. And when we didn't have much, when I was struggling, when I had no money and I had a mortgage and I was skint, and he's been around them difficult times. Don't get me wrong, he never went without in them difficult times because I was still willing to do some stupid, crazy things to earn money. But he was around in them times, in them days.

After that, when my second son comes, we were still in the terrace. That was in Old Swan when Kobe came. But I was doing a bit better then. And then by the time the third one come, which he was a surprise because believe it or not the third one weren't planned you know we were in a better position a much better position, I was living in a nicer house and stuff like that

and then on this latest one he's just going to know nothing but the life of luxury So when you say it's your project that you're a one year old is that because the other three you think are a bit small and mummy's boys and you would you you want the the youngest to sort of know that they're they're like living a lucky life star wars or what do you mean by like a project to make them like you

there's no there's no denying that i mean i've been away for so long that you know i've been so good at what i've done that it's been i've been able to retire but i've. It's took me away from them, and I haven't been a full-time father. If anything, you could class me as a part-time father while I was fighting, which is hard to say, but I've been very selfish. I've taken myself away to camp, going to America for months at a time, making a bleeding Rocky movie, going away for three months and not coming back home. So, as I said, she's had to deal with these all the time.

On this final one, I've been here nearly every day of his life. I'm part of it. I'm here. And with the other three, I wasn't, because I was so focused. Even when I was at home, I wasn't really there. I was just so focused on fighting and getting to the next challenge, making the next few quid, winning another title. I mean, mine was always on anything but being a parent when i was fighting and that's sad to say but that's me just being honest i regret you

have to have that mindset in in that kind of job because you have to be it's not like you chose to be in camp you have to be in camp if you're a fighter it's part of the process you do meet but when i look back now i think i didn't have to be so engrossed in the game but i think that's why i got so far because i'm not athletically gifted. I'm not Anthony Joshua. I'm not somebody who you look at him and he's got muscles bulging out of his face and his body and he's a perfect specimen. That's not me.

So I had to work on other aspects and parts of my game so much more. I was insanely driven. Every time I was in camp, I was just on it every single day. When I wasn't in camp, my mind was still focusing on the next move, doing this, doing that. Whereas other people who are naturally talented athletes, they just go into the gym and it's like they've never left.

It's crazy how some people work, whereas me, I was a greedy fat fucker sometimes. As a kid growing up, I was 15 years old and I was 15 stone. And that puts things into context my first professional fight i was two and a half stone lighter than i was when i was fighting at 15 because i chose to cut weight and go down just all these things do you see that mindset of relentlessness in your any of your children that they're that sort of super driven so do you think it's a genetic thing or a product of your environment to escape and make the situation you're using better?

I see it in Carter, the eight, nine-year-old. I definitely don't see it in the fucking other two. Because they just, they have to think in their own time. They will just say, no, I'm not doing that. I don't feel like it. Whereas I have never quit anything in my life. I can't quit. I just can't give in. It's a sad thing to have, really. I'm not doing that. I don't feel like it. Whereas I have never quit anything in my life. I can't quit. I just can't give in.

It's a sad thing to have, really. I'm so germy. I'm just, I mean, even the little things like beating your kids on FIFA. I want to tank them, mate. I'm still, he's got the PS5. I'm doing them on FIFA. I'm doing the eldest one on FIFA, mate. And I'm not playing around with them, mate.

It's not about that. It's about teaching you a lesson. And, you know, the sound part. It's not about that. It's about teaching you a lesson. And do you know the sad part? He's not even that bothered. And I'm furious that he's actually not bothered. I mean, I can't explain that. The anger I have when I've done him and needs to respond.

And he's just like, yeah. It's crazy, isn't it? But Carter's different in that respect. Yeah, he is, mate. He hates to lose. He can do it. Like, his two elder brothers will knock the fuck out of him and he will come back for more, believe you me,

and he will not stop. Really? So what will your wife say to you about that then? Will she say, Carter told me this? What are you doing? Stupid idiot, you big dope. You can't teach them them things. He's not from your mum's or he's not like you.

And I'm like, he will be like me if I can teach him a few things. What siblings did you have when you were growing up, Tony? I have got three brothers meet. So two elder ones, one younger one. So I'm four boys. And was that a similar thing where you're all fighting and you're all... Do you know what? It's mad because growing up,

my eldest brother was our Craig, my Devotonian. So he left home when I was about 10, 9, 10. And then he was living with some beard at the time or whatever. But he'd still come and take me to the matches with him because he got me supporting Everton, believe it or not my dad's a Liverpool fan so being the rebellious little fucker I am I chose to support

Everton's goal against my dad because I was like I'll do what I want so R Craig was always there R Wesley was my next one up so R Wesley is the brains out of the four of us, he's a clever individual, he went to university and stuff like that and he would like he would do what I don't walk or he will pin me down give me slaps now again just to teach me

a lesson use possible you've got to understand I outgrew them pretty quick because I'm the biggest of me and all my brothers I'm the heaviest and I'm the fucking hardest as well if you weren't about that. It'd be a bit weird if you weren't world champion, but not at Christmas. So once I got to like 13, 14, the challenges like stopped in my house with my elder brothers. And then with my younger brother being gay, I had to, every fight you could possibly imagine,

I had over him, not with him, but you know, there's no there's no conspiracy why I'm a boxer, mate, you know when you've got a young brother who's gay and it's apparent that he's gay at a very, very young age then you can imagine being young, black and gay in South Liverpool wasn't

the most desirable thing to be at that time in the late 80s, early 90s, so I had many a fight defending him. Yeah. I really did, which is very odd. But, you know, he's his own man. I'm married and stuff like that.

So, yeah, it's no coincidence why I am what I am. I love me brothers and I love the family that we have. But it's crazy when you look back on your life and see it's no coincidence why I am what I am and why i ended up doing what i was doing i was completely off the rails at some parts of my life which we all have been at some stage uh but as when it comes to fighting it's no coincidence why i am uh why i ended up did boxing kind of was that the kind of outlet to get you onto the rails definitely i'm

not going to use that old cliche one of boxing saved my life and you know without boxing i had probably been up to some stupid things yet but no more stupid than anybody else yeah you know we've all done daft things we're not very proud of uh we've all like well i don't know if we've all had close scrapes with the law i have but it's a it's you know what I think I was very fortunate to find my way, it was my dad who put me into the boxing world and stuff like that, he was always proud, and my dad was one of them people who, he's a brilliant dad, but my dad left home when I was 10,

so, but my dad never became, never like taking himself out of my life, was always in my life, so looking back on it, I always just wanted to impress my dad my dad was a fella who really could have a fight and it wasn't a boxing and just could have a fight he was an hard fella mate so bringing home 10 gcses grades a to c that was never really gonna you know cut it and impress my old fella me going to gym and knocking someone clean out you know me that's getting me a new pair of trainees or a trackie or the new Everton top

or stuff like that. You know, I remember winning me second amateur fight by knockout and rendered this guy unconscious within 30 seconds. My dad bought me a season ticket

two days later for the Everton. Yeah. But that's the kind of thing people would talk about when they meet up with friends and people boast about their kids, That's what he did.

When you're running nightlife security in a city like Liverpool, which he was, he must have had about 20, 30 nightclub doors, and loads of the lads who work for him would turn up and watch me fight. I've just rendered someone unconscious. Tell you what, your lad can't have a fight. Yeah. He's going to be something else.

Tony, see you lad. He's brilliant. He's this and that. And that's like, it's my lad there else i mean tony see you lad what he's brilliant he's this and that and that's like it's my lad that fucking my lad that you know so that was it made him so proud and i'll say i've got a dad who's extremely proud of me someone and that was the big that was one of the biggest things and highlights of my career just making me that proud yeah and what and do you feel like there's things that your kids do now to make you proud? Yeah, definitely. They say they want to fight all the time.

They say they want to, but if I actually go on then, they know I'm not going to let them. But if I say, go on then, go and do it, they fucking soon get a fright. But that's not what I want for them. I want them to be everything that I wasn't able to be. So my kids have got brains, something I wasn't blessed with. My kids have got different attributes than me. They can they can do different things the whiz kids on certain things

i'm not i'm not expecting einsteins for kids i'd love to get one out of the force university that would be a brilliant thing for me to do to see one of my kids go there uh i've i've been very fortunate and able to set up things for them so you know they're gonna have really really good you know childhoods that they've got they're gonna have things that they're gonna be able to go into shall it not work out doing what they want to do so you know i've planned and i've set things up for them going forward i think that's unfair though tony when you say you're you're not blessed with brains because you obviously are you're maybe you're not academic you might not be able to put an essay together but you've already a shoot clever individual that knows

how the business you're in you knew how to work it able to put an essay together, but you're a very astute, clever individual that knows how, the business you're in, you knew how to work it, you had strategies, you did PR, you did marketing, you was essentially a one-man business. And all those things connected, you know, like the way you set up the fight with David Haye was a very shrewd marketing move that would have been lauded in marketing departments,

but because it's a bloke kicking off another bloke, he just looks like two blokes shouting. But it really was, you know. I was clever and wise at that side of things but that's just because of experience experience and leverage

at that point in my career so you've got to remember in the early parts of my career I was dealing with snakes and in the boxing world there's tons of them so you soon learn to you know

make the most of what you've got and the most of what I had a lot of it was just openness and talk shit and just create rivalries do different things I was brilliant at that and I understood Compose shit of what you've got and the most of what i had a lot of it was just openness and talk and just create rivalries do different things i was brilliant at that and i understood i'd say compose

you talk but in a cover way with an outcome back it up there's no point just being able to talk and talk six in the end you're gonna get found out the most important thing in boxing is and everyone say you can talk a great fight you can do but ultimately, you've got to be able to just fight. Yeah. You get fellas who can talk the best game in the world. You can get fellas who can talk shit, create rivalries. But, mate, if you can't fight, you're just going to get slapped everywhere.

And that's not what we want. It's embarrassing that you end up on the YouTube compilations of bosses that get owned. You don't want to be a meme. No. And if your boys did fight, Tony, would you be in the corner and manage and coach them, or would you get someone to do that for you?

And you, you know, because it's like, you know, Nigel Benn stands quite far away from Conor Benn when he fights, and then Eubank is very much involved with Chris Eubank Jr. How would you approach it? I don't know, Rob. I couldn't see me get punched in the face because they're going to have to punch me in the face But if they're going to have that fight then you know

you'd be watching someone in the corner but then if you know do you think that you'd be able to do a better job on instructing them and giving them advice you know because in a way that is protecting them because you're giving them advice in the fight. I get what you giving them advice in the fight I don't know I've said no I've been offered

a few opportunities to train a few fighters now and I've said no purely for the fact of you have to remember how involved a trainer is with a fighter every time the box

is in the gym the trainer's in the gym with them so you're spending an awful lot of time they're an awful lot of effort goes into it but if it was your own kids, I suppose that'd be

different. It really would. You'd be emotionally invested. It's your child. I don't know. I couldn't. Could you sit ringside and watch? No. No chance. No, I couldn't watch that. I don't know how my dad's done it for this many years. My dad adores me

and I know him in the world. My dad's my biggest ever fan. He just loves and adores me. He really does. But I couldn't Mae'n ddiddorol i mi, ac rwy'n gwybod fy mod yn y byd. Mae fy mab yn fy ffans fwyaf oeddiol. Mae'n ei hoffi ac yn ei ddiddorol. Ond nid oeddwn i'n gallu gwylio'r hyn a wnaeth hi fynd drwy. Gwylio fi, gwylio fy mab. Nid oeddwn i'n gallu gwylio. Yn unig, y syniad oedd hi. Roedd fy mab wedi cael ymarfero i'r ysgol. Ac rwy'n meddwl bod y mab wedi'i bwysleisio. Roeddwn i eisiau mynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fy I think a kid butted him once. I wanted to go up and fill the kid's dad in. Just so the kid understands that, you know, I'm never going to do that again. But it was only my wife talking me around to stop me doing it.

I was going to go and fill the kid's dad in right outside the school in front of his son. And that's the kind of thing that you just, you'd have to need someone on your shoulder to say, you can't do that because that's how it goes. But the school dealt with it. But it's hard though, if that's your immediate thought process and that's what your brain is telling you to do.

No, of course. Because I expect my son to deal with that. Yeah. Kids are always going to get, fights are going to happen till the end of time. And I was like, you can't do that. And I was like, yeah, I can.

Because if I do that, then his son will soon realise, don't ever touch my son again. And she was like, your thought process can't just be attack. And I was like, it's not. I'm trying to put it right. And she's like, you thought process can't just be attack. And I was like, it's not. I'm trying to put it right.

And she's like, that's not the right way to put it. So she talked me around and I've now realised that that wasn't the right way. So as long as he gives a belt back, you know, it's job done. I think you made the right decision. Rob, you always like to end with the same question. I reckon you're quite an honest person though, Tony. I don't know whether there's going to be anything.

I'm too honest. That's me. My missus says that sometimes I've got to just, like I shouldn't have said some of the things I've said on here, you know what I mean? The question is, is there anything that, obviously your wife's an incredible mum, you've said that. She does the homeschooling and you do the cooking and stuff,

and she sort of keeps the house ticking over. Is there anything she does parenting- wise that frustrates you a little bit there for fuck's sake no but you haven't really said to her because it could cause an argument but you're you're you know you're right and if she was basically you want to cause the argument and then like switch off and then you don't have to deal with the lying bastard i can see what you're doing it's coming a mile away she's more than welcome to the game a fucking big me do you know if i end up divorced after making this comment, I'm going to fuck you.

Well, if we do it on pay-per-view, you might get half your money back. I think people will pay too much to bash me up on pay-per-view. I chuck a tenner in. You guys are Beckett Bell, you know? I come up more than that, mate. 1999 I come up, lad. Fucking Jesus, come out loud fucking me right you say she's like you think she's a bit soft with them and things like that but is there

anything else is me soft I mean when she just like buys things and just you know the stop parcels turn up at my house and we'll live in it I'm in in January or February now to stop parcels like it's Christmas it's not fucking Christmas stop fucking buying Amazon shit and bollocks stuff coming to the house it's doing me head in but you know what I'll tell you what she does

right it is exactly how it goes this is what she does and this is fucking really annoying so you know when they've stopped listening and like

she's lost them and she's telling them do this and they've got to explain this and she's doing that and she's taking over the lesson with them

and like the car's just had enough because he's cheeky and he've got to explain this. She's doing that, and she's taking over the lesson with the man, like, the car's just had enough, because he's cheeky, and he'll just say, I've had enough, not doing no more. Ant, Ant, Antony, come here. He's not doing it. And then, why are you shouting at me? What are you telling me for? I mean, you do the homeschooling.

But, oh, yeah, shout that in, because Dad's the disciplinarian. Dad's fucking Sergeant Slaughter when it comes to the punishments. Dad will deal with it. So I come down, listen to you, you fluffy-haired little shit. Sit down and do the rest of the work now.

I'm warning you, don't test me. So I'm always the bad guy. You always have to be the bad guy. I don't appreciate being the bad guy. I mean, don't get me wrong, me kids. I'd like to think they love me or if they don't,

they're doing fucking brilliant acting skills. They really are. I've created a few fucking Al Pacinos and Robert De Niro's in this house if they fucking don't really love me. Yeah, I hate being the bad guy all the time, but I do understand, you know, you do need discipline in a house

and I am the disciplinarian in this house. Does it work though? Like, do they respond to that or do they know that you're, you know, you love them to pieces and you can be soft with them i am too soft so do they can they sort of see through it slightly even though like you saying that for somebody who doesn't know you it's a bit scary because you're you know ex-champion boxer but for them do they sort of know oh no he's just he's i think last week was a bit of a tough one because i took the eldest phone

off him and i took it off him for a week oh actually you know what what still going now I've still got it now he hasn't had it back yet with the yeah he's got the playstation back but I've still got the phone so it's been eight days now yeah wow and he's got a girlfriend who he thinks is absolutely fantastic which is you know just ridiculous at 15 but as it goes you know what can you do uh so yeah I'm sticking up with that I definitely think he thought he'd get it back by now but you know he can you do so yeah I'm sticking up with that I definitely think he thought to get back by now you know he should have gave in the mock exam which is important because it's doing this is his final year in school and he had to do certain mock exam and had to be handed in so basically bullshitted me and his

mother and said yeah it doesn't have to be in yeah then the school phone does when the school phone does my back goes up fucking little shit so what they must think is the school must think the old fella goes up. Fucking little shit. So what they must think is, the school must think, ah, the old fella must think, ah, don't worry, he's got it sorted. No, I'm not like that at all. I'm actually, I think school's very important for them and I'm driving them on to push them to better things.

But I'm not sure how the school interpret how I'm doing it, if you understand. Yeah. You know, I've met the school, I remember going to school one time and they were like, Mr. Bill, you know, he's not responding he's not doing this, and I was just like, he'll respond I'll get on, and I just said to the teacher

listen lad, I don't fucking do naughty step in my house, you step out of line, you get a slap on the arse and that's how you get dealt with I don't give a shit what they say and the teacher just looked at me and he just said I definitely wouldn't want to be slapped on the arse so I'm at the stage and I'm like, you can't slap a 15 year old's arse you know what I mean, because he's 15 and he's 6 foot 4, and he's just like, be slapped on the arse. So I'm at the stage now where you can't slap a 15-year-old's arse,

you know what I mean, because he's 15 and he's 6'4". He's just like, imagine slapping his arse, what are you doing? This is weird. So it's just like, mate, give me the phone. And it's just like, oh, the phone. And I'm like, yeah, there's the phone. And keep messing me around, the PlayStation goes next. Yeah, that is pretty

not that is pretty naughty though to lie to you about it basically that's when it's that he didn't lie he just he just papered over it oh yeah i'm getting it done i'm getting done i don't think it needs to be in yet he didn't say it doesn't need i don't think it's got to be in there so a bit little sly little side things that's the thing that gets me he's got it he's definitely got it up there but he'll use it when hely ass. That's the thing that gets me. He's got it. He's definitely got it up there, but he'll use it when he sees fit, and that's the most frustrating part. If he was...

I say to him all the time, listen, long legs, you could have the best life ever. All I expect you to do is do your homework, do your schoolwork, and then you can do whatever you want. If you want to sit on PlayStation all day, you can. If you want to go and play football, you can.

Just as long as the schoolwork's done, you've tidied your room, made your bed, the world's yours. You can do what you want. If you want to sit on PlayStation all day, you can. If you want to go and play football, you can. Just as long as the schoolwork's done, you've tidied your room, made your bed, the world's yours. You can do what you want. But the fact of he hates the schoolwork and he doesn't want to do it, just makes me angry and just makes me kick off and take these things.

So as I say, you learn, me 12-year-old on the other hand, just does everything right. Yeah, but then it's just dead, dead cheeky to his mum. So you've got a different kid again. So it just does everything right. Really? Yeah, but then it's just dead cheeky to his mum. So you've got a different kid again. So it's hard, mate. I'm going to say the nine-year-old, he's his mother's project. I've got the one-year-old.

Trust me, the one-year-old will be the best. He's going to learn everything from me. And I'm there 24-7. I know we've got to go through it at the end, but what is your plan with the one-year-old? What things are you going to try and do? I'm going to teach him. I know we've got to go through the end, but what is your plan with the one-year-old? What things are you going to try and do? I'm going to teach him that he never gives in.

He fights with everything he's got. If anyone ever challenges him or puts it on his toes, I'm going to turn him into the best golfer ever. I'm going to get him playing golf as soon as he can swing a golf club. I'm not going to teach him to box because that could lead down the wrong path. Golf's a good box, man. I'll just teach him how to throw a few punches in soft defence. I've done that with the others.

So my other boys could give someone a belt if need be. If it goes wrong, boom, there's one on your chin. I have a bit of that. Bit of football. Me, Carter is at a really good level, to be honest. He's a brilliant goalkeeper, plays the year above. So he's really good at that. I've just got so many ideas that I want to do with a one-year-old.

So many different things. We'll have to check back in when they're a couple of years older to see how that project's going. Trust me, I'm telling you now, if I can get someone to click on up here with him who's a bit more advanced than me, then he's going to be the best for me.

He's going to be brilliant. Hopefully he's saying this, but the other kids won't see it. I'm looking back at the door to see if they're listening. Mate, I'm telling you, my project will come good and you will watch carson belle you will

be the one wow i love that we'll play this back in 18 years time and then we'll see this will be the documentary the champion of countdown the champion of the chase the champion of football golf this could could be anything amazing well good luck with it, Tony. Thank you so much. You really enjoyed this. It's been great. Thank you, man. That was brilliant. Always a pleasure, boys. Tony Bellew.

Josh, I need to apologise if I got a bit too boxing nerdy there. That was... I don't think it did. I think at points, you know, I understood it all, Rob. Brilliant. That's the main thing. I understood it all rob brilliant that's the main thing i understood

it all he's a boxer right i mean you should have told me before the interview started i had to work that one out he is the king of the octagon that guy um he's i just love but i've got so much respect for boxers it's just insane what they do and i they and it annoys me a little bit they don't get the respect they deserve because it's just like, oh, two blokes fighting. But the fitness level you need to be at are outrageous. And the technique of actually boxing, the actual punching in the face

and the toughness of it is not, you know, that important. I did some boxing training years ago for fitness. Oh yeah, not to turn pro. I had a couple of bouts, but obviously the comedy

was just taking off, Rob. Yeah, I did it for the Olympics, but then I just started on fitness. Once I got a mock of the week under my belt, I thought, I don't know whether I need my boxing anymore. Do you know what the most difficult bit fitness-wise is? You've got to be on your toes the whole time. I know that sounds like the calf muscle i know the calf muscles you need to be try all our listeners try bouncing around on your toes forward and back for a minute now and it is absolutely brutal yeah so if you do

that right so don't just no being punched or throwing a punch but bouncing your toes for 12 lots of three minutes yeah and you'll you'll be physically sick so imagine whilst doing that throwing punches getting punched in the head and avoiding a punch it's like a dance a choreography 12 lots of three minutes. Yeah. And you'll be physically sick. So imagine, whilst doing that, throwing punches, getting punched in the head and avoiding a punch. It's like a dance, a choreography. And I think it's like a working class sport. It's sort of just deemed as two blokes fighting.

It never gets the respect it deserves. But that aside, wonderful bloke, Tony Bellew. And what an interesting interview. It's so different, the type of people we get on the show. It's the one we did with Philippa Perry. Can I ask a question about it? Because I didn't want to, the type of people we get on the show. similar to the one we did with Philippa Perry? Can I ask a question

about it? Because I didn't want to, I should have asked, I should have asked. When he says slap, slap them on the arse, does he mean slap them on the arse?

I think it's a turn of phrase really, but I do think potentially, I don't, well, I don't know. I don't think he actually,

No, no, that's what I mean. I'm not, because I was like, is that a turn of phrase or is he slapping them on the arse? I don't think it literally means a slap on the arse.

I think it means a bit of a bollocking, a bit of you're being told off now type of thing, rather than the... Slap on the arse is a bit more like a carry-on film, isn't it? Yeah, exactly. It implies that he's sort of like everyone's evacuee clothing, just shuffling down a little pair of, like, thick cotton shorts and a big red slap,

like a headmaster in one of the little hats and gowns. I'm imagining him chasing his kids around like Benny Hill. That's how I'm imagining it. Well, no, yeah, so I don't know if he means it like that. We'll have to clarify on that. But I remember watching a documentary about him on Sky Sports about his boxing. I remember him brushing his kids' teeth.

I remember thinking, they are the most aggressively clean teeth I've ever seen in my life. I'm not Tony Bell when you his kids' teeth. I remember thinking, they are the most aggressively clean teeth I've ever seen in my life. I'm not a Tony Bell when you're brushing your teeth. But he's a lovely man and he loves his kids to absolute pieces and his wife. And it was great to have him on.

But yeah, it's so different. But they're different backgrounds where he probably thinks he's been really soft on his kids. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Imagine walking past him on that golf course bloody hell

six foot four six foot three just cuddling and slapping each other yeah they must have thought it was a rowing over the golf score yeah there's someone someone there who's taken a drop ball when they shouldn't no kind of situation shouting hole three, you're only cheating yourself. The book is called Everyone's Got a Plan Until You Punch Them in the Face. Until you get punched in the face, isn't it? Oh yeah, of course.

Until you get punched in the face. Yeah. He got it wrong. So, he planned to say it right. It's available for pre-order now. We will be back on Tuesday. Yes. See you then people back on Tuesday. Yes.

See you then, people. Bye-bye. Bye.