Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S02 EP33: Sam Quek

Episode Date: May 14, 2021

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S 'LOCKDOWN PARENTING HELL' -S02 EP33: Sam QuekJoining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) during the lockdown and beyond is the brilliant Olympic gold medal winning hockey player and TV personality, Sam Quek. Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks. xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @lockdownparent INSTAGRAM: @lockdown_parentingA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The show in which Rob and I discuss what it's like to be a parent during lockdown, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, in an effort to make some kind of sense of the current situation... And to make me feel better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills... Each episode, we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you, the listener, with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because, let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing.

Hello, and you are listening to Lockdown Parenting Hell with... Can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. And Josh Whittakin. Josh Whittakin. There we go. Very cute, that was. Who was that?

That was a lovely, lovely rendition. So, my wife went to unicorn-themed first birthday party. Sorry, that sounds like the start of a joke, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then she'd come back with a horn. Yeah, that's lovely business, Rob. Lovely business.

I love to say that's true, but that's never happened. It doesn't exist. Whee! That's us now. Welcome to Jonglers. Seems all the kids had to dress up as dickheads for the group photo.

Not sure why. Oh, my God, yes. Oh, my word, Rob. So it's the kids with unicorn cocks on their head. I'm going to send it to you. It's not their cock, is it, for the unicorn's head? It's a horn, isn't it? It's a horn, but look at this.

It looks like penises. Oh, no. It doesn't even look like... I thought it was going to look like a wrecked penis. It looks like a flaccid granddad dick. It really does. It's really inappropriate. On a poor child's head.

Yeah, we will post it, though. Look at those children. Oh, those little grandad knobs on their head. Little grandad dick heads. Oh, that'd be fun to post. Also attached is Ruby, age three, from Cambridge, doing your name to the intro. And the person who sent that is called Spike Jackson.

Oh, Spike Jackson. I bet he was a quarterback at high school. So thank you to Spike Jackson for both the sound file and the superb penis content. A hundred quid his name's actually Simon. He nicknamed himself Spike. How are you, Rob? Good, good. Yeah, not too bad. Well, we should say, we've pre-recorded this week's episodes because this week Rose is having a planned C-section.

So Tuesday we'll be back with baby news. But at the moment we haven't had that. Before. We had to record before so you had a bit of time with Rose and stuff. You don't really want to be podcasting on the morning of the C-section, do you? It would be awkward. It would be very awkward. Live from the operating?

Is it a delivery room or is it an operating theatre? It's an operating theatre. Yeah. It's weird. So I know this from the first time when we had an emergency one, that they go around and they all have to say what they do. Oh. So before the C-section they're

like i'm steve and my job is to it's a bit like the start of like a take me out or something but like single surgeon reveal yourself let the knife see the skin um yeah it's a weird old one it's a weird old world well good luck with it, Josh. Thank you. How have you been, though, apart from C-section? How's the three-year-old excited about the news? I would say she has definitely got into the idea. She's really into the idea,

but she seems a lot happier than she did a couple of weeks ago, Rob. Oh, that's good. But I am nervy about it. That's the thing I'm most nervy about. Yes. But you can't worry about that. Just concentrate on the C-section and then that'll sort itself out. Do you just make her feel a bit special?

Because I'm sure, is it Rose's mum will be around to take her out and do things with her? She'll quite enjoy that, I think, at the start and be quite excited to be a part of it. I'll be honest with you, Rob. Yeah,

be honest. I'm going to say it. Go on. If it's all healthy, Rob. Yeah, be honest. I'm going to say it. Go on. If it's all healthy, it's all great. Exactly. But my friends who've got a two-month-old, their second baby, they've implied that it's a piece of piss to me, Rob. Wow.

Okay. Their first child really didn't sleep. Still doesn't really. So the fact they've got this baby that just sleeps all the time, I don't think they can quite believe it. Yeah, I think also as well, I think, yeah, if you've got one that sleeps, you're all right. But I do think it's easier the second time when they're babies.

Honestly, you're not as nervous, not as worried. It just gets tiring when they get older and they're running. You've got two kids to chase after. Yeah, do you reckon there is a bit of a honeymoon period? Definitely, I think so, especially when they're first born. Because a lot of the time they may be getting up in the middle of the night to feed them, but you are quite used to waking up in the middle of the night now. It's not like unheard of to get five hours sleep and be woken up.

So you're like, oh, okay, I'll get up and feed that baby. And then the baby sleeps during the day and things like that. So it's not too bad. And also she's in preschool, isn't she, and stuff. It's not the big summer holidays yet. So you've got a bit of time in the day, just you and the baby and that. You'll be fine, Josh. I'll be fine. I'll be fine.

I'll be fine. You'll be good. I'll be honest with you, Rob. Yeah. I spoke to my publisher and they said, are you all right just to do a read-through of all the changes next week? And I was like, I have got quite a lot on.

Because I don't know about you, when I had our second baby, I thought, you know what would make this easier? To read through an entire book. To read a book really intently. Surely someone else can do that instead of you. You know, it's 3.30 in the morning. Yeah.

The baby's crying. I should just give a look over to that chapter to see whether I libel anyone. That kind of thing surely they could sort that out, who's your publisher, Derek Trotter oh they do Rob, they do, I've just got trust issues haven't I, I've just got trust issues you've got to learn to delegate, that's what Richard Bryan said you've got to learn to delegate, just trust other people to do it

well they come back, they go we're just going to put the book out we've made the changes and I go I'm sorry but can we delay the C-section? Because I do need to read it again. Thank you very much. I wouldn't read it through. I just trust them to change the spelling errors.

They're not going to publish a book with spelling mistakes, are they? What if there's no typos, Rob? But I look like a twat. Well, I'd say sometimes we are twats. Deep. Why are you hiding it? If you wrote it down, you meant it. That's my philosophy

do you know what i mean you can go back through it and take it out because you know you feel guilty but you meant it that's that's the main thing whether anyone reads it or not you know what you meant yeah but don't worry it'll be fine it'll be fine um we've got um do you want a quick email before we uh introduce our guest you want to to choose? Should I give you some titles? Yeah, give me some titles. Okay. School Run Angst. Oh, yes, please.

Yeah, I like school run stuff. I don't even want it. What's the other one? You don't want? Give me an option. The other option is Terrifying Moment of Being Locked Outside of the House with the Two-Year-Old, the Baby Locked Inside. Yeah, that one now, actually.

I've chosen one. That does sound good. Yeah. We'll have both. Let's have both.'ve changed my mind. That does sound good. Yeah. We'll have both. Let's have both. Let's have both. Let's treat ourselves. It's Friday, isn't it? It's Friday. It's Friday. Have you got that Friday feeling, Rob? Are you going golfing? That's why I'm going off the mic, because I'm doing that thing in the video.

It's Friday, you know, when the car's going along. It's Friday then, a Thursday Friday. Do you know what I'm talking about? I have never heard that in my life, and it sounds like you're having a breakdown. You must have seen it. The geese are in the car. They drive the car along. He jumps out the car and he dances alongside the car. And it's like, it's Friday then.

Thursday, Friday. Josh! What are you looking at on your phone? How is that not in your algorithm? You sound like my wife. You must know that. It's like a... What am I looking at on my phone?

Generally... Sports news. Sports news. And then texts. Written pornography you like, don't you? I like written pornography from the Victorian times. Your favourite one's Busted Flush, isn't it? My friend, Rob, who's a bit...

He's sexually odd, let's say. When he was a teenager, he couldn't access any pornography in his house. Okay. And he had a wank over the definition of vagina in the dictionary. That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard in my life. Are you serious? He was so in need of stimulus.

Oh, my God. And he lacked imagination so much that he just had a wank over the definition of vagina in the dictionary. The only way that would have been weirder if he did it on Braille. I just don't know how you could be turned on by the definition of vagina. Hang on, read it out and let's see if I am. Okay. on by the definition of vagina read it out let's see if i if i am okay read out the definition this is a this is a terrible thing to have in your google search history but i'm gonna give me give me the definition of a of a vagina and i'll let you

know if i'm if it's doing anything okay the muscular tube oh my god too fair muscular got me carry on i don't think i've encountered muscly ones. The muscular to you? That is an absolutely ripped fanny, that. Look at it. Well, I've been working out, Rob. Don't forget leg day, old faff over there. Look at that.

Ripped. Six pack on that vagina. I'm exhausted. Sorry, muscular tube. Go on. The muscular tube leading from the external genitals to the cervix of the uterus in women and most female mammals no you've you lost me at muscular that that it felt like it was going down a route but i don't think i could have a wink to that and i know i'm

you know i'm you know i'm pretty good at them yeah yeah oh yeah you've knocked it out in your time haven't you i've worked away from home a lot. Anyway, let's get back to this email. Yeah, okay. My oldest daughter was two when our son was born. Do I know this person, by the way? What? Who sent the email? The dictionary.

Oh, sorry. Oh, yes, you do know that person, yes. No, is it? Oh, of course he would. Yeah. It all makes sense now. Knowing him, that's more of a Josh Riddick. I've never had a Krispy Kreme brag, I think.

Well. More than perfect. Should I tell you another thing that he's done as well? Because we're not naming him. No. He was once abroad. Yeah. And he couldn't access his pornography.

Yeah. So he drew his own pornography. I mean, that is absolutely insane. How did he have the patience? I can't deal with buffering. Do you want to know what he drew? Yeah, I want to know. It was a woman giving a blowjob.

Yep. Right. But because he didn't want to draw the naked man, it was basically a woman giving a blowjob to a

penis and balls that were just floating in the air. And what a guy he is. I think we need more, we need to give him a name and more stories about him and we'll never reveal

what he's called. We could get him to call in to the show on a different day and we'll put one of those voice things on it. My eldest daughter was two when our son was born. She was... I've just dropped some... She was very excited.

You were floating cock and balls, wasn't it? He is a very good artist. Wanksy. His name's Wanksy. Oh, glorious. That is glorious. Good glorious good stuff isn't it really good stuff um my eldest daughter was two when our son was born she was very excited about it's been a real gear change in that sentence from c-section to invisible men's dicks she was very excited about the new baby and we did all the what do you think it will be like when he she is here chats with her yeah first off she liked him for all about two

minutes shall we read this out on tuesday because we've done 20 minutes we only want to do 10 well lucy pond we'll stick we'll stick a pin in lucy pond's email this is pond i'm sorry about this we're sorry lucy but we feel it's more respectful to... Yes, you can't go from invisible dicks to children. Let's move pond to Tuesday. Hello, everyone. It's Alan here. I just wanted to tell you about my brand new podcast coming next week. Lights of Beach. This podcast is the escapism

we all need right now. I sat down and chatted with some of my famous friends about everything travel. From caravanning in Rio to private jetting to the Maldives, my guests spill the beans on their holiday horrors and dream destinations. And let's face it,

we might not have the sun on our faces, but after a listen to this, you'll definitely have a smile. First episode is the very funny Romesh Ranganathan. And coming up, we've got Robbie Williams, Jessie Ware and her mum Lenny, Michael McIntyre, Rufus Wainwright, Rob Rinder, James Blunt, Dustin Lance Black. Oh, fasten your seatbelts. It's going to be a fantastic ride. Sam Quek, welcome to the podcast. You are our first Olympic gold medalist. Oh, I'm honoured. Thank you. That is exciting though. That is such a big achievement.

Do you get bored of it being brought up or does it still feel good when you hear it? It still feels good. Even when I get on my medal, sometimes it still feels good. Any opportunity I'm like, Oh, here's my medal.

Have you put your medal on your baby? I actually haven't put it on her. I put it next to her. I took a photo with it. Cause she had like her own little personal portrait photo shoot a few weeks ago. So, um,

she actually, the gold medals are getting bigger and bigger, but bless Molly, she makes it look even bigger because she's so small. So what's the setup at home? You've got one child? Yes, one child who is eight weeks this week. So proper fresh. How are you feeling? Because I think at eight weeks old,

I wouldn't have been able to speak to someone about having it i'd sew in the in the trenches but how's it going it's going really well i'm blessed to have tom who's brilliant i mean i'm not great at the best of times without sleep but he is really stepping up to do some of the night feeds so i'm actually feeling okay the first two weeks are really tough i think you just just got to, well, like, you know, figure out the baby and what their cues are, what they like, what they don't like, what works, what doesn't work. So I can sit here at eight weeks and say, listen, it's not easy.

I don't think it's easy for anyone, but I can't complain because she is a star and I've got a good support system. What I like is you do slightly talk, you still talk slightly like you're discussing a run of sporting fixtures i was about to say that just that was a classic response from an athlete that it was there was emotionless broken down into what is our goal how are we going to attack it and we're being successful let's just crack on you know you know it's a new it's a new week next week the boys are happy to change your room we'll print out the next spreadsheet. Are you very organised then?

You sound a very organised and controlled mum. Would you say, you know, we've had poo splats all over the white wardrobes a number of times, you know, puke filled clothes and whatnot. Just the standard. I think most parents will probably know what I'm going on about, but I didn't expect it to be what it is. I don't know why.

I just, every so often I look at her and I'm like, oh my God, that's mine is it a responsibility or an excitement sort of way or both both because i've always especially as an athlete you grow up um and you compute you have to be really selfish even to the point in a relationship i was very much it was always about me what i couldn't go to what dates were are available to kind of drink kind of not drink and then like that was marriage and then just me and Tom but now I've got a kid it's like another level of oh my god you have to look after this thing who can't do anything for itself um and even just like I mean I'm expressing and I feel like a you know a cow that needs to be milked but because she's getting bigger she's wanting more milk and i'm like oh my god just even stuff like that trying to provide milk for a child pick up demand it's like it's like a

small brand that's popped off in lockdown on insta and you just you haven't got the supply change yet well i said to my husband i said i'm just pumping milk what we're gonna do with all this milk and he said i can definitely get some on away on ebay If it's an Olympic gold medalist, we'll make a good... Gold medal milk, the fuel of champions. Very strange piece of sporting memorabilia. I think it would sell. You say that, but I've been asked for some really weird stuff before.

Like from some people wanted my old shoes and socks. I don't know what they wanted them for. I think I do. what do you think you know let's not be naive about this another request as well someone wanted a recording of me of me farting through a walkie talkie oh wow oh god i've had the walkie talkie is perhaps the weirdest bit of that so it's not actually it's not the weirdest bit of that so you're eight weeks in do you feel do you feel like sleep deprived at all or are you yeah you seem like you're pretty with it it's because i've had a coffee honestly i mean i used

to be a coffee fiend and then obviously cut it down or didn't really have any during pregnancy so now like when i have a whiff of coffee i am bouncing off the walls i bet yes like when you don't drink for a while and then you're hammered after one pint yeah i've still got that to come actually i've still got my first drink slash binge drink to come post pregnancy yeah you've not had have you got anything booked in because as as a comedian the first night out of a recent mum is normally pretty hardcore. That is when people really let loose because it's been over a year normally with the pregnancy and then the baby being small.

Have you got that night out booked? I've got my good friend's hen do down in London actually on the 22nd of May, so that'll be a big event. Is that the first time you have left your daughter? Overnight, yeah. yeah yeah how'd you feel a little bit nervous but then I say that but knowing me like as soon as I get a drink in my hand and sunshine and I'll be like but no I think I mean I trust Tom implicitly so I won't be too nervous I'll probably miss her but and how's it working for you because you're you don't play hockey anymore and so your your schedule isn't as intense as an athlete's now but now it's a bit more ad hoc media stuff and me and Josh work in the media and freelance

stuff sometimes you're working every day at weird hours or you're not working at all have you taken a block of time off were you going straight back in what's your plan that's that's the tricky thing isn't it with the child care and stuff yeah massively and i think having a child that small you can make a schedule but it's all on her schedule and all on her things she'll eat when she wants to eat you can plan to leave at a certain time and then you just end up being half an hour late for whatever reason but in terms of work it's been okay um because i'm lucky enough and fortunate enough now to be in a position where i can afford to say, actually, I can't do that job, but I can do that job.

It's not too bad. I've worked a few days since – actually, a week after she was born, I was filming Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? No. How many days? It was only the day. It was only in Salford, so it was only about like 45 minutes from work. Oh, no, but how many days after the baby was born was that exactly a week yeah a week I can't tell you

the opportunity to win a good amount of money for a charity like that charity no chance after a week I thought you was on it for yourself I'm joking so did you bring did you bring her with you yeah so we went to the studio and Tom came with me and I kind of sat in the dressing room, had my Nando's, gave Molly a feed, and then I went down to the green room to record and Tom was there, pushing her in the pram, feeding her. Tom won't phone a friend, was he? You're like, quick question, leave it.

She's gone down, whispering. She's asleep, Sam. He was and he got it wrong. Oh, was it? Oh, no. I think it was because of the whole, like, had baby in one hand and phone in the other and was, like, getting proper stress. So basically the first person you hung out with away from your baby

was Jeremy Clarkson. I know. Actually, I've got a picture sat on the chair with the baby and Jeremy Clarkson. And Jeremy was brilliant. He was a good crack, but he did not crack a smile it's just it's like it's the funniest picture so when it airs I'm actually going to post that picture on my Instagram oh yeah defo everyone to share the joy in that picture how did you feel though like you know in yourself going on telly like because you know

look there's a lot of people after giving birth a week later would feel very self-conscious about going on telly after a week was you was you nervous was you worried or you just didn't care like how did how did you feel um I was probably to be honest still off my head on all the dimorphine and uh everything else that I had yeah you're in the thing but um I was okay I was obviously nervous because it's more the logistics I get quite wound up like where am I going to park the pram what if she's hot what cold have I got this have I got that but it felt like i was packing for a week away i'm not gonna yeah yeah you just get your handbag your purse your phone bit of lippy everything you need and then

but with a baby honest yeah your bags pram milk yeah also as well like it's a 45 minute journey that's quite a lumpy journey you're saying like to get there and then because like even if you're visiting someone 45 minutes away, that would be a stressful day and you'd be going in their house. But to go there and then sit opposite Jeremy Clarkson with the pressure to win money for charity, that is an intense afternoon. Mate, it was really intense.

But as I say, I think I started packing two days before I actually had to be there because there was just so much stuff to remember. And it was the first time we'd been out. But I was a little bit sore, but found the best pair of Spanx and Hold Me In's, you know, and all that. Bit of professional help on the hair and face.

And I felt like a new woman. I just couldn't eat or drink too much because the amount of elastic I was wearing around my waist. Fair enough. Well, well played. Yeah. Now, no one will be able to watch that episode of her going, a week ago she gave birth.

No. Unbelievable. You should just get the prize pot for that. Never mind the questions. I hope so. I did blather that point time and time again, in case I got any ridiculously easy questions wrong. Yeah.

I was, like, really conscious as well i had to change color top because of my boobs kept leaking yeah so proper boob leakage and i was like i had this um like ready top on but i was like that's not gonna be great is it if i start sweating on whatever thousand pound question getting a little nervous or you know i hear a baby cry in the background. People aren't going to want to see leaky boobs on national TV. No. And going forward with that stuff like that, is Tom working full-time? Is Tom, what's the plan with the parenting?

Is it going to be 50-50 or is it going to be flexible? Like, how do you see it going with that kind of thing? Because you have to have that conversation, don't you, when the baby's coming? Yeah, we're really fortunate because he's got his own company. He works a lot from home. So as long as I can tell him in advance my diary and what I need to do. So, for example, he's upstairs in bed at the moment

because he did the night feed last night. So he was having a nap and I was like, I've got to go. Here you go. So I like pushed a little, you know, next to me bed into the spare room where he sometimes spends his time. Oh, so it's nice and flexible. That's a good way because it must be, it's so hard to try and balance that,

but that works really well then I imagine. Yeah, definitely. And it's like you say, with our work, it's you never really know where you are, you know, unless it's like a week, I mean, a week in advance is generous on time sometimes in this industry, isn't it? Knowing where you're going to be.

Yeah. And I think like sometimes I don't really appreciate how like much Lou has to sort of compromise to fitting around that even though I'm not choosing for that to happen but like you say if a call comes in and goes there's this thing next week I you just have to go Lou you've got to do that or Tom you've got to do that so at least you know it makes a massive it really helps doesn't it take the stress off yeah but you said you've got a little one running around the garden at the moment haven't you yeah well uh yeah okay you've dogged me in. I said that in confidence.

Lou went to pick up the eldest from school and we were recording this and there's a three-year-old in my garden, which is mine. Which is yours, to be clear. I'll be honest with you. There was about six minutes I'd forgot that she was still here, but then I checked and she was on the slide and it was fine. So is she still running around the slide now, Rob? No, no. She's all just laying next to it, not moving. No, no, Lou's back.

Lou's back. All my kids are fine and safe. They're all good. So with Tom doing the night feeds and stuff, do you just sleep through fine? Do you feel any guilt about him doing the nights? No. No, we do take it into account we he does the majority of nights but i do some nights as well

but to be honest i said to tom listen we may as well kind of share and do a bit of both or i can do more nights because going back to the whole boob situation i have to get up every like three or four hours to express so i'm up and about anyway. But she actually, I mean, I say this touching wood, last night she slept from, she had a big bottle at about half 12, one o'clock, and she slept all the way through till seven. Oh, my God. I mean, this compared to the Tom Parry episode, who also had a child of eight weeks old, is absolutely miles apart.

I've got a dream. She's now asleep dream. Well, I think there's a combo where it might be she's quite a dream and she's a good sleeper, but also it does feel like your life's a lot more structured than Tom Parry's. Other than that, I'm just not waking up, just staring and crying. Yeah, just letting her scream.

Oh, that's good though, because that little extra sleep makes a massive difference, I suppose. Yeah. Do you find, but you feel like you're a together person. Surely there's like a mental strength you get from being a kind of top sports star. What a weird phrase. I just used sports star.

She's a sports star. Yeah, you are. You're getting old. I think this is you getting old. I just had visions of your voice when you're 80 I think this is you getting old. It's a really weird terminology. I just had visions of your voice when you're 80, and it is going to be so mental. You sound 70 now.

Look at Josh Millican's voice when he's 80. Are you on some sports show? I found my mental strength was really tested in those first two months. But you feel like you've just walked it, Sam. No listen it sounds great but the first two weeks i was an emotional wreck like i was crying at the most ridiculous things i remember walking down the stairs with her and i just burst into tears walked into the kitchen and sat there like sobbing but like not even crying like uncontrollable sobbing because i thought oh my god what if i drop her down the stairs yeah like i hadn I drop her down the stairs?

Yeah. Like I hadn't dropped her down the stairs. Like nothing was wrong, but like all these thoughts and I just burst into tears and Tom walked in and he was like, oh, my, what is wrong with you? And I was like, I just thought, what if I drop her down the stairs? Like just so irrational. Which is your hormones go mad, don't they, after you give birth? I think when we did NCT, they spoke about it and just like your body's

just flooded with hormones and it's sort of good or bad and energy and all sorts that sends you a bit you know off the richter for a few absolutely or we do lally whatever you can say yeah i don't know just a heads up for tom that's that doesn't that doesn't sort of completely ever way that will happen when they're at four and uh and they're having hormonal arguments with the kids. It's math though, because you know that you're, there's like, I would start an argument, but then know in the back of my head, Sam, you're just being ridiculous here.

But then me being stubborn, I carry, I go through with the argument and still try to argue because I just don't, my little voice, I want to prove my little voice in my head wrong. So Tom is onto a no winner sometimes especially yeah what have you argued with him about then in the last couple of weeks like that you know you were in like the sort of the wrong but you fancied around just loads like part of me is just like you I had to learn to just let him get on with it so we had this big argument about microwaving breast milk sorry so from from

your would you would you microwave milk rob josh um um i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i would i would boil water i would do boiling water into a bowl and then put the milk bottle in it rather than microwave it but i don't know why that just seems like a more organic way of doing it well what do you would you microwave it no so i'd do the same as you but after the argument tom now does it in in boiled water because i think but before it was microwaving what so what's what is wrong with microwaving it though it does seem more efficient it is everyone i know i mean you're not it's not recommended to microwave it because you get hot spots in it. Okay. Everyone I know.

And I've spoken to have been like, yeah, I just microwave it. When you've got a crying baby, put it in for like 20 seconds and it's right. You don't get it piping hot. I forgot about heating up the milk. Like I'm so far away from,

well, you better fucking remember that. You've got a kid coming in weeks, but like, um, yeah. Two and a half weeks. Then back at it. The old microwave. I haven You've got a kid coming in a week. But like, two and a half weeks and I'm back at it. With the old microwave. I haven't even got a microwave.

You can just put it in the sun. Should be done by dawn. That's how we do it now in our week. But I tell you what's good, though, if you do go into bottle or formula, because we didn't do breast for whatever reason

breast milk for too long but um tommy tippy's already good because it it makes the like the formula milk really well at the right temperature but yeah it does because i do that sometimes when you're cooking a curry there's a bit of chicken that is like hotter than the sun than an actual bit of ice next to it so it must do the same with milk just just sort of get hot spots. But we're learning here, Josh. We are. I'll be honest with you. It just, that has really brought home to me how disconnected I am from the experience of having a baby. You know, when you have a baby and you ask people who've got a two-year-old, you're like, did you go through this phase?

And they're like, oh, I don't really remember. And you're like, what is wrong with you? But that's who I am. Maybe it's like a human reaction to because it was like so terrible, like childbirth, you just forget about it. And you think, you know, let's have another one. So like the terrible two is maybe people forget. Yeah.

I mean, so what was the argument about just that you shouldn't do it in a microwave and he said it doesn't matter and you argued, but then he eventually gave in. Yeah. But then it's just like irrational stuff when you're tired as well. Like who's taking out the nappy bin next? Yeah. Do you pick fights for reaction, Sam?

No, I pick fights because I probably get a little bit moody because I'm either tired or hungry. Okay. So it's sort of a way to sort of, you feel like I want to vent, but I need a reason. Yeah, but I'm also, I'll hold my hands up and say, I am at times a little bit of a control freak. Okay. And I think that is just being part and part of like an athlete because you're in control of your body your schedule and bits and bobs like that so sometimes i'm terrible at not communicating

but i'll automatically think that tom knows what i'm thinking so if in my head i'm like right i've packed that i've packed this apart that we'll leave at 10 and i've not said that to tom my head sometimes presumes that he knows that we're leaving at 10 and we go to leave and i'm like why aren't you ready and he was like well what do you mean and i said we're leaving at 10 and he was like well you didn't tell me and i'm like oh yeah i think me and tom have a lot in common because lou likes to do that as well the old not tell me what's happening and then tell me off it's sort of uh yeah i think though it's's it must be it's hard though like when they're when they're that small as well and i think when you like you say your job is you everything is like micromanaging controlled and then you sort of totally lose control like your body and work and stuff like that where

imagine you want to sort of get back to fitness and things like that but your body just won't let you yet it's it must be hard to sort of when your body's been your tool for so long yeah when your mind's in just sit in have a packet of crisps you've got half an hour while the baby's asleep just watch telly you know but yeah i am to be honest this in my body is never been in this it's not a state but in terms of this type of shape before um obviously put on weight stretchy skin different marks and i've had i've learned to embrace it to be honest at first i was a bit frustrated and i was like i want to get back

to being fit and getting out running but having a c-section that's obviously taking a little bit longer but um oh my god so you did who wants to be me in there after a seat that's a you just sit in a chair don't you let's be honest be honest. You need, I mean, that's mental. I'm not going to lie as well. I just enjoy, I quite wanted to go and just see what I looked like with a face full of makeup and hair professionally done. Lockdown here, just get out of lockdown. When you were playing hockey and stuff,

was there people that went away and had babies and then came back? And how difficult was it for them? Like, is it a tough thing to do? Or do most people wait until their kind of sporting career is over? Because I know like Serena Williams went away and had a baby and came back and stuff. You know what? I look at the likes of Serena, Jess Ennis. There's been a few of the Hockey Kiwi girls who have done that, some of the Aussies.

And I remember in my career being like actually I think I could do that I'd probably maybe have like a year and a half out have a baby get back training and maybe make it back for an Olympics but now I've gone through it I am just like unbelievable like how how they managed to do that in such a short turnaround because of what your body goes through because obviously pregnancy is tough in itself and and then you've got the postpartum which again is even tougher because physically you have either pushed out this watermelon through the eye of a needle which i can only resume or you've had like a c-section which has basically been cut in half but i think i i mean i couldn't think of i mean it if I had to and someone said,

you have to do it, Sam, I'd obviously find a way, but I couldn't do it. I mean, I just, at this moment, I just think that is a job and a half. Like I'm just looking forward to getting back on the road, going for a jog and back to my club hockey. Yeah. Full respect to them. So do you still play hockey as a hobby then? Yeah, a bit of club hockey, a bit of club hockey.

Are you much better, like much better than everyone else though? so do you still play hockey as a hobby then yeah a bit of club hockey a bit of club hockey are you much better like much better than everyone else though or like is it is it is it like you're just everyone's trying to two-foot you and tackle you or and you're running rings random or is it a high level i don't know how to answer that without sounding like an absolute jobsworth you're the best one you've got a be i mean how good's this fucking club if the olympian is like mid level no it depends it depends because the problem is the gb team obviously you know you went down to vision they're all based down there full time so when i was there you have to play for a club within that area because you don't want to be traveling up to manchester where you can't

really can you to go training so our club Bowdoin we don't have any GB players or anything like that because it's too far away from the centre so so that down south there's a sort of a higher level because they need to be near the GB team exactly so all the clubs you've got East Grinstead, Surbiton places like that Wimbledon are littered with like international players so last season before Covid Bowdoin got relegated because you don't stand a chance because they've got the starting line-up with the GB team and then they've got GB team, Team B on the other club team. Yeah.

So you're like JJ Okotra at Bolton? JJ Okotra. What a reference to go for as your first. I thought you'd appreciate it. I know Sam's a football fan. Sam, do you think you're going to, how do you feel if your daughter was not interested in sport whatsoever?

Would it be a relief because you've done that with your youth or would you be disappointed? Without sounding harsh. And again, she can do whatever she wants to do. I'll back her. I would be a little bit gutted if she didn't do sport, just because it's done so much for me in terms of like my mates traveling the world and i think

sports just good for anyone and everything both physically and mentally but i can't wait to just stand on the sideline and watch my daughter play some kind of sport but yeah i don't think i will be the type of parent who's up and down the sideline, giving it beans, shouting this, shouting that, I'd probably take a step back and just take it all in. I don't think that's true, Sam. I think I know you well enough with the stuff we've done,

but I think you might be that person. What is that? The one who's up and down, shouting for the ref? The one who's really enthusiastic. Oh, sorry, I've got a child that's broken in. Daddy, give me two minutes, okay? I'm just doing some work.

I'm talking to Sam Quay and Josh Whittaker. You go to mummy, and I'll be out in five minutes. Sorry about that, everyone. You're absolutely lying. Lou's going to have a disciplinary later, actually, because that is totally unacceptable. She knows I'm down here. We'll have a little chat about that at the family meeting.

You'll be like, Daddy, why did you lock me outside? Yeah, just go on the slide on your own again in a garden alone. Come on. No, I'll just say something. I think you're very competitive. Even just the way you said, I'll back her, and I don't know if it's because it is your accent but it sounded like you really would back her but i think it i think personally for me as well i'll have to work hard not to get too involved

from the sidelines when they're older just because i can't help it i'm gobby are you that are you that guy who's stood behind the coach and when the coach no i'm not that person i'm not that person that's like you don't see yourself as a tactician, do you? No, I'm not. I'm a Sammy Lee. Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Not everything's bolted, Rob.

No, I think... Tell me, Sam, have you got to go to the Reebok Stadium since you've had a baby or not? Because Rob really wants to know. Sorry, there's a lot of bolt and stuff. No, I just think I just get into stuff. I'm very enthusiastic. And if my daughter scored,

I'd lose my mind with excitement. You know, it's hard not to, isn't it? But I don't think I'd be shouting what to do. I think Lou's a little bit, even a bit more like a, she's a bit more like, I think would be more protective on the sidelines and aggressive

than I would be. What was your experience of playing sport as a child? What were your parents protective on the sidelines and aggressive than I would be. What was your experience of playing sport as a child? What were your parents like on the sidelines? Well, I was going to say, I think maybe I'm saying that because my dad, I know he won't mind saying it because I put it in my book. He was the parent who used to go up the side of the sideline and shout at me, not in an aggressive way, but was constantly shouting at me. And my mum would follow him up the pitch and be like,

shh, Albert, shh, stop, Albert shh stop you being about me too much and like I remember looking up throughout the hockey game and my dad would start on one sideline and my mum and they'd slowly both get keep just doing laps of the of the pitch my mum would catch him up but dad would walk away and catch him up but I played lacrosse once over in Liverpoolpool and i remember being so exhausted i just ran ran ran and i collapsed down to the floor obviously still conscious but my legs were just knackered and my dad was like sam get up you're embarrassing yourself get up and my mom was like alvin swanthor are you okay and i was absolutely fine but i think that's where i get my kind of like don't roll over and die you've still got more

in the tank type of attitude yeah and I remember as well my brother used to play in golf or it was a team called Wirral Chinese

and he was Wirral Wirral Chinese Wirral or Wirral Chinese Wirral to the plate Wirral Wirral

I think it was a good one it could have been the other one what's the team that is Wirral Chinese Wirral right okay We're all Chinese. What's the team name that is? We're all Chinese. We're all Chinese.

What's your team name? We're all Chinese. That's all I've got. Sorry. We're all Chinese. Okay. I prefer that one, actually. So your brother played for We're All Chinese?

Yeah. Were're All Chinese? Yeah. And were they all Chinese? They all were, apart from one, but obviously we're half, so we still count. But anyone was welcome, even though it was called We're All Chinese. So you were called We're All Chinese, and you essentially, the team were nearly all Chinese as well. Yeah. And that's the first time anyone's mentioned that.

We're All Chinese. The strapline should have been We're All Chinese. Apart be we're all chinese apart from one who was the one i think it was like the center mid guy the tall one surely you could have surely the goalie no my brother was the goalie but i might not but anyway he was playing in goal and my dad was literally stood next to the goal post and just giving it every time the ball michael run out michael dive left and in the end me and my brother only my twin brother uh sorry it was my older brother who was in gold me and my twin brother sean used to just go and watch purely just to go and watch my dad and next to my older brother just giving him directions but yeah it was good good quality so was your dad into hockey because your whole

family's playing like how did you all get into hockey um i got into hockey through school um and i was playing football at the time because i was more football i was always football played for like tram year girls played in the boys teams with when I was younger but I had to choose between hockey and football when I was 17 and I chose hockey so yeah would you take your daughter being an olympic gold medalist in hockey but she's an Everton fan oh my oh that's not gonna happen. She's already got a little toolkit. I mean, you say that, my sisters in Everton. That wasn't the question. So it wouldn't be too dissimilar to how some of the things are at the moment.

But yeah, I would. I would. You'd take the gold? I'd let her have a gold medal. Yeah. You've got to have some success, haven't you? I mean, if you're an Everton fan. At least she can enjoy her personal success.

Yeah, yeah. And so how's it been having the baby in lockdown, though? Was Tom allowed to be there at the birth or the scans or the rules? Because two months ago, it's got better now. This is April, we're recording this. But, you know, at the start of the year, it was pretty bleak, wasn't it, in hospitals and stuff like that. So how was that? Was that stressful? Yeah, the first 12-week scan, he wasn't allowed in. So I like that so how was that was that stressful yeah the first 12 week

scan he wasn't allowed in so i booked a private scan uh five days before um so he we could both be there together at the same time you know to like see a heartbeat and whatnot and obviously um i had a miscarriage in the january oh i didn't know that i'm sorry yeah no i just i would just think god forbid touch wood if it was bad news I can't imagine some people going in and experiencing that on their own. So I just feel for so many people who had to go through it on their own if it was that type of news. But yeah, in the hospital, I had to go on my own for the 12-week scan. And then by 20 weeks, he was allowed to come in

if he had a negative COVID test within 24 hours. Oh, okay, cool. So there was a way for him to come in and stuff. But yeah, that's all that. You just don't need it. And especially with like, when you've got the baby, you want everyone to come around and see it and say hello and stuff.

And it's horrible, isn't it? Having to, you know, not be able to see all your friends and family. Yeah, it was rubbish. And especially at the hospital. So Tom was allowed in, but once you're in, that's it, you're not allowed to go back out. And then you just feel harsh

on like your parents or your brothers and sisters you know who aren't able to see them but albert's out there screaming from the street come on you've got another push in you come on we've got the full wirral chinese squad shouting come on call that a cesarean that is not with the sense of mid guy the only one who can see through the window he's doing all right guys she's doing fine she's fine up there are they still going we're all china i can't move on from we're all chinese i'm asking next question while i google we're all chinese no no i'm setting one back up. So, if you've got... I was going to ask you this though, right, because

I found it quite stressful when loads of people come to the house... Sorry, sorry, Rob. I'm going to have to interrupt to say the first thing when you Google the words we're all Chinese hockey is Sam Quek's Wikipedia page. Is it actually? Is it? She's not lying, it's true. Do you like it?

No, I was going to say, I found it quite stressful when we had loads of people coming and going, seeing the baby and stuff, because, you know, you get into a schedule, you're all chilled, and then people come, you go make tea and stuff like that. Do you feel like you missed out, or was it actually quite nice to have a bit of calm in the house? Obviously, you had your support bubbles, I imagine, and stuff. Or did you really miss it?

To be honest, the first week i think it was probably a blessing in disguise um because i didn't get out of my house coat didn't do my hair you don't really brush your teeth and house coats dressing gown isn't it for southerners oh sorry yes house coat yeah no just just a bit i only found out last week the house coat in liverpool a dressing gown's a house coat. Yeah. Did you know that, Josh? No. No, I didn't know that.

It's very poncy in it, dressing gown. What did I say? House coat. House coat. Yeah, but the house coat sounds insane, doesn't it? House coat. So you call it a house coat? Yeah.

And also, do you call lunch dinner or dinner? Dinner? Lunch dinner. Yeah, so we call... Well, I don't know which one's dinner. I call the middle he's still on supper oh no i'm not still on supper how dare you dare breakfast lunch dinner you know yeah breakfast lunch dinner yeah but why are dinner ladies called dinner ladies when it's at lunch so you have breakfast dinner tea yeah i, I get your point, actually. When do you wear a dinner jacket and where?

To an evening do, which... Yeah. And then what do you eat on your lunch break? You're having dinner or you're having lunch on lunch break? Yeah, that's a good point. To be fair, I do flip in between. Let's not get bogged down in a North-South divide. No. The first week was a blessing no one came around.

That's where we were at, weren't we, before we got bogged down in house coats yeah um yeah blessing in disguise purely because like you say you just the days blur into the nights and you're trying to just have a reading and doing whatever um and then it's kind of like if you if i had visitors i would have felt like obliged to put my eyebrows on get out of my house coat you know make a cup of tea and stuff like that yeah like i said it was actually quite nice and then it was just me and tom kind of knuckling down trying to figure everything out but we did have parents around um yeah because you're allowed like a net if you've got a child under one you're allowed to be part of a support bubble aren't you that's really good i think tom's mom's in our

bubble anyway because she lives on her own so actually it worked out all right so my mom and dad were the support bubble but tom's mum was already in our bubble. I think that the worst is when you have people that come around for too long in the first few weeks of the baby, because it's fine when they're there, but the moment they go and you've missed out on your chance to have a nap or you've missed out on your chance to kind of relax and then you head into the night tired. I just think it's so tough.

Yeah, if you've had a nap, then they've had a nap. The worst is they've been around for an hour and then you go, oh, tired. I just think it's so tough. Yeah, if you've had a nap, then they've had a nap. The worst is they've been around for an hour and then you go, oh, trying to get rid of them. I'm just going to go and put the baby down for a nap and they're still there while you're doing that. And then you come down and they're having a nap and they go, oh, another cup of tea. And I'm going like, don't you fucking waste my nap time.

I'm either sleeping or watching the telly or having a bath. I don't want to talk to you about shit. The internet's better in your conversation. That's a good bit of advice so the advice there moral of the story is when you go to put the baby to bed don't come back down don't come back down yes no i've got another one right and it's called fuck coffee cups right fuck coffee cups and they're tight not they're it's a little cup they're doing ikea but they're bigger than like an espresso cup so it's not weirdly small but they're the smallest the smallest cup or mug you can find before someone gets inquisitive and you do a cup of tea in there but quite low level and it they'll drink i don't boil the kettle fully

so it's a bit cooler and they will have that tea drunk in about five minutes do you know what you could do rob how you could market these yeah you know in the bottom of the cup you could do, Rob? How you could market these? Yeah. You know, in the bottom of the cup, you could have the words fuck off written. So when they finish their tea, they get the message straight away. Should we do some fuck off-y cup merch? Yeah, I think we should. And this is for new mums and dads that you make it to someone

and you want them to leave so you can have a rest. I don't know. Would that be something you'd be interested in buying, Sam? Would that have helped? A hundred percent. And some sort of sign on the door. Yeah, on the door. Not welcome. So you could have a rest. I don't know. Would you, would that be something you'd be interested in buying Sam? Is that, would that have helped? 100%. And some sort of sign on the door.

Yeah. On the door. No, not welcome. Yeah. Just some sort of thing that you can like slide from left to right, depending on like where you're at, where the babies are.

And if you're in the mood, if you know. That's a good idea. Yes. That is a good idea. Isn't it? Just like come back later. Not today.

Yes, please. I'm going mental. And Tom keeps microwaving milk. I mean, that's quite niche. That'd be more specific with a spoke for you Sam although we haven't got a doorbell which has been quite a nice little uh nice little treat well I still remember like now it doesn't matter how important it was when you ordered a takeaway to put in the instructions not quietly we've got

a baby sleeping that's still on my like deliveroo thing did you ever do that josh yeah no i used to watch the person come and then i'd be stood on the uh sorry that was a very strange phrase so weird delivery what you ordered my order was that good the moment they smell it the order oh my god this has gone disastrously this I'd say the last 30 seconds

have been 30 seconds of the worst of my career but so you say they were called we're all Chinese

Sam anyway so I would watch the Deliveroo stroke Uber Eats or whatever app so that I could see where they were so I'd always meet them on the doorstep So I would watch the Deliveroo stroke Uber Eats or whatever app

so that I could see where they were so I'd always meet them on the doorstep. Oh, that's a good plan. But I do that anyway. I did that before having a baby. Did you? Just because I was so excited. Waiting for it to arrive. I have once watched the little image of a motorbike go all around my local area

thinking, why has he done a left there what kind of stupid sat navs he got i watched a guy go very slowly up a one-way road the wrong way on the map and he was going so slowly and then he got it i was i just realized he was pushing his bike and he'd obviously got off his bike and he was walking the whole way so that he could go against the traffic. That's commitment. That's commitment. That is commitment to a call.

Sam, we've got one last question before we go. It's been brilliant. Thank you so much, especially how new your baby is. Is it a nap at the moment or is the baby awake? I don't know. I did send her up with a bottle to Tom. So I think it was midnight. She doesn't want to have stolen your beautiful nap time.

We'll wrap it up with one last question. This question we like to ask all our guests is if there's one thing that their partner does parenting-wise that really annoys you but you haven't brought it up because it would just start an argument but it's wrangling and if they listened back to this, they would go, yeah, that is a fair point. I'll stop doing that. Is there anything's uh annoying you at the moment sam that tom's doing maybe how long you got no bless him he's been it's not microwave based it

can't be microwave it can't be microwave milk it can't be that is there anything or is it all at the moment is it all pretty sort of steady ship it is. I'm really lucky to say it is a pretty steady ship. There's one thing which isn't massively bugging me, but... For someone who said it was a steady ship, you've got into one very quickly, Sam, which I'm very in favour of. I mean, I love a bit of Call of Duty. I got into it during the first lockdown.

Oh, it's great, isn't it? Love it. Especially Resurgent Trios, love a bit of that. Anyway, Tom, when he goes on it with the boys, and obviously because they've got the headsets on, he's next door on the TV, they don't realize how loud they are. And when you just get the baby to sleep

and they're getting all excited, they're getting in the final circle and there's a guy on the roof. Oh my goodness. The volume level just goes from like normal talk to excited to like full on. I'm in a club. I need to shout over the loud music type of level.

So darling Tom, if you're listening to this. Honestly, though, I got told off for that. Right. So I was playing it once and I left the window open because it was a hot summer's evening. I put my headphones on and I was screaming. Lou ran upstairs and said, what is going on? You are making all the dogs in the street bark.

Because it's on the roof, it's like a brick. It's really emotional. But also, it's not very good for a sleeping baby to hear, there's someone on the roof, shoot them. Where's your gas pass? Fucking hell. And it is brutal swearing, isn't it, Sam? It is.

Sam, this has been amazing. Thank you so much. It's been an absolute pleasure. Thanks so much, Sam. an absolute pleasure thanks so much Sam thanks guys Rob yeah we're all Chinese

might be the most I've laughed 2021 well it's when Sam was going yeah they're mostly we're all Chinese

the we're all I've only ever the thing is because we're all I've only ever heard it be called the we're all yeah really it's never called we're all and I forgot that we're all sounds like we're all The Wirral. The thing is because Wirral, I've only ever heard it be called The Wirral. Yeah.

Really. It's never called Wirral. And I forgot that Wirral sounds like Wirral. It just got a bit too much. And I feel like if Sam wasn't there, that could have been a potential cancellation for us two. But I feel like she led the Chinese. We were just there to enjoy it.

I don't think we should bring it up in other episodes where it's just me and you. Yeah, I think we should probably leave it alone. Yes, yes. That was funny, though. It made me laugh. And what a fucking machine. C-section, then Jeremy Clarkson. Unbelievable.

What is that? I didn't want to say this to Sam, but she could have easily got booked on it a couple of months down the line. It's not going anywhere. Do you know what, though? I think that's the sort of like she's so i've met some loads of times she's so sort of focused and dedicated and if she's agreed to do something she's like yeah i'm doing it and i'm not gonna let that stop me that sort of

it's that classic sports star mentality where you have to whatever you said you're gonna do you're gonna do and you don't care about the circumstances and i think that's what makes people you know a club hockey player and then an Olympic level hockey player. They have that dedication. You know what I mean? Because I've met a number of sports people that just, it's like the stuff they do, that dedication is insane. And then even after retirement,

they still have that part of their personality, you know? Yeah. They are a different breed sports people, aren't they? Just when you go on, when you go on League of Their Own and you do anything with a sports person, they're so so competitive or you have a sports person on a panel show and they actually care if they win i know it's meant i did it once where i fell off a netting on league of their own and jamie read and i went oh come on becky get on with it you were in the morning you'll get in your head all about this and i went jamie i I've already forgotten. I couldn't give a fuck

about being beaten by Helen Skelton on jump rope. Call me a pussy. I don't care. I don't care. What are we thinking about in the morning, Jamie? The joke I did about Joe Hart that didn't go to anything. That's what I'll be thinking about.

Exactly. But they're just built, athletes are built different. You just can't. So for her, I think that's just, I'm okay, I can do this. And it's, you know, I've said I'm going to do it, but yeah, good on her. But yeah, she's brilliant, Sam. She's so confident and so like focused. You can see that.

And Tom Parry and Sam Quek, I know I've mentioned it in the episode, they couldn't be more different as people really, could they? And you can sort of see it in the parenting to a point of just like sam would be like well how can we make this more efficient why don't we do this and let's do it that and someone go i've got me firmus i've got the orange but whatever works works do you know what i mean and tom parry couldn't about that i don't think sam would have enjoyed that schedule i I don't think Tom Parry would enjoy Sam's schedule. So it's... No, totally.

That's what's so interesting about parenting. Actually, I dispute that. I think Tom would enjoy Sam's schedule. We've got to get Tom back on, actually. That's a good one to get back on. Put him on the list. And Rob, I've got to go to Bloody Nursery and pick up my daughter.

Okay, go and get her, mate, and I'll speak to you on Tuesday. See you later, guys. Bye.