Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S03 EP14: Frankie Bridge

Episode Date: August 27, 2021

ROB BECKETT & JOSH WIDDICOMBE'S PARENTING HELLS03 EP14: Frankie BridgeJoining us in the studio this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant singer-songwriter, presenter and author - Frankie Bridge.Frankie's fantastic new book 'Grow: Motherhood, mental health and me' is available now. Enjoy. Rate and Review. Thanks - Rob and Josh xxxIf you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the with your tips advice and of course tales of parenting woe because let's be honest there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing hello you are listening to parenting hell with Can you say Hope Beckett? Hope Beckett. Goodbye. Can you say Josh Widdicombe? Josh. Widdicombe. Widdicombe. I'm going to say it.

My main issue with that is the way Gemma says good boy is so sinister. Goodbye. Is that a horror film? Yeah, it's actually a horror film. What were they? In the basement? My main issue with that is the way Gemma says good boy is so sinister. Good boy. Is that a horror film? Yeah, it's actually a horror film. How far away is that? In the basement? You know, say you're up working and you might get some lunch. Good boy.

What is that? Who is that? Hi, guys. I've been listening from ep one and never miss a week. I've got three kids, seven, four, and 22 months. This is George, my 4 year old. I did send a previous email to match Josh's tiredness, if you ever cram across it I'm sure you will laugh. Nice laugh at my expense. I dream of having Josh's sleep pattern. Keep up the top podcasting, thanks for keeping us laughing, Gemma. Good email, Good email.

I've not really slept. Everything you say, you can't do any other voice than yours, can you? Even that just sounds like Josh Whitacombe. I know, mate. It's a strong taste, isn't it? It's a narrow range. You know like an ingredient that whatever food you put it in, it will taste like that's on my voice.

It dominates. You know you like an ingredient that whatever food you put it in, it'll taste. It dominates. That's what my voice, it dominates. You're like, you know, you have turmeric and it's just, everything's a little bit orange for the whole week on your nails. Yeah. You don't want to get me on your fingers. That's a weird thing to say. You're the ticker sauce. Is it ticker or teeker? Teeker.

I say ticker. Is that wrong? Chicken ticker. I think it's, I think there is. I think, I don't think that's like wrong, wrong. I think, but it's like scone and scone, right? I said scallops and that's wrong. It's scallops, isn't it? Oh, I don there is. I don't think that's wrong. But it's like scone and scone, right? I said scallops, and that's wrong. It's scallops, isn't it?

Oh, I don't know. I don't eat them. Are you allergic or just saving the world? No, I'm just vegetarian, mate. Yeah, but that's not a fucking animal, is it? It's not a fucking yo-yo. Come on, mate. Play the game. Don't eat meat. It's a scallop, mate. Come on, mate. Play the game.

Don't eat meat. It's a scallop, mate. Come on. I've had meat and bits of halloumi. Oh, that is the highlight. Actually, you know what? That's my favourite moment we've ever done. It's not, though, is it?

It's the best discussion since the start of this podcast. Right. How have you been? All right? Just busy? Paralympics? Well, the Paralympics is going, but this is recorded pre-Paralympics. Okay, I'll tell you what I'll do.

Let's do some Instagrams. I've got loads of good ones to get from. Oh, okay. We've blabbered on for too long. We haven't got nothing to say, have we, to each other, Josh, really? No, it's over. It's not over. I love doing this, right?

This is it. I've got some bangers. Genuinely, Rob, this is, it's a real pleasure to go upstairs and do this. Yeah. I mean that. It sounded worse, but thank God. You know, sometimes you work with people and you don't like them and you have to try and have banter with them it sounded worse but thank god you know sometimes you work with people and you don't like them and you have to try and have banter with them and you think

i didn't mean that i know it's like my bread's buttered there rob right here we go hi hello hello rob josh and michael my husband and i love the podcast we have a 10 month old son and you have helped make our foray into parenting more fun and full of laughter. I was a nanny throughout my 20s and there was one family I worked for whose son was adopted at birth. Cooper was the light of their life and they doted on him. So much so that they had a binder filled with photos, papers, like his birth certificate and other memorabilia, each taped onto its own page. That's quite a nice idea, isn't it?

Memorabilia's quite funny. It sounds like he's... Have you got the mouse mat as well? Yeah, and the key ring. Yeah, we've got them. Yeah, but so all little bits and bobs of his childhood, including... Oh, no.

Oh, no, which bit of him? You've got to brace yourself for this. Oh, no, not the foreskin. A look of hair, his belly button stump... Oh, fuck off....and his foreskin. Oh, no. Oh, no, not the foreskin. A lock of hair, his belly button stump. Oh, fuck off. And his foreskin. Oh, no. Oh, no.

As well as a peanut that got stuck up his nose. What? It takes all kinds, I guess. Thank you very much, Amy Moss. Oh, my. His foreskin. God, imagine knowing your foreskin's in a book. Also, if it's a heavy book, it's like when you do pressed flowers, isn't it?

Just forcing it down into kind of... How would you present the foreskin in a book? Would you go side on or flat, like the penis is coming through the book? I'd do it pop up. You'd do it pop up? Yeah. Pop up book? Yeah.

Or would you have little flaps? You know, like that one, like the birthday party book where it's all flat like Dear Zoo oh my god imagine cutting your son's foreskin off and putting it in a book worst thing is Rob I'm doing the audiobook next week

for the foreskin we've got another good one here this one's good. It's another fucking shout-out for SodaStream, though, which is annoying, but it's funny. Oh, fuck them. Hi, Josh and Rob. I just listened to your podcast.

My SodaStream button's actually already struggling. So, you know, it's not all good. It's not all good, no. Sometimes you don't want it bubbly. Anyway, I just listened to your podcast of Izzy City. We talk about reliving childhood excitement with the SodaStream. One payday eight years ago, me and my then work colleague bought a soda stream and a win whilst trying and failing to find an inflatable hot tub i mean that is that is a classic

bored sunday buy in it where you've gone for something you can't you don't have your appetite for fun fulfilled um anyway so they couldn't find an inflatable hot tub they got a um soda stream said after a few too many carbonated red wines That is fun, isn't it? Let's see what that's like. Fizzy. After a few too many carbonated red wines exploded on us, when we attempted... Well, they were putting it in the machine. Yeah.

Jesus, wow. Jesus would have tried that as well. I know. And when we attempted to recreate the hot tub experience in the bath, one thing led to another. Eight years later, we have SodaStream to thank for our relationship and our seven-month-old son. Oh, my word.

So SodaStream started their relationship. Now they have a child and listen to this show full circle, Josh. Oh, that's nice. This is Nicky Pearson on Insta. Listening to Rob talk about looking at the wrong child reminded me of when my husband went one better. This was when I went to Legoland and I was watching another kid in the playground

thinking it was my kid. Oh, yeah. Because they were wearing the same outfit. Ended up in the sun, didn't it? Was that? Did it end up in the sun? Yeah, it ended up in the sun. Did you see the headline?

What was the headline? Beckett a pedo? Basically, Rob Beckett a pedo. Well, now, if I can type in Rob Beckett pedophile into Google, it's not a great look, is it? No, that could come back to haunt you in a court case. It's in the news. So if you Google Rob Beckett pedo.

I say in the news is not an excuse for being a pedo. No, I'm not a pedo. But what I'm saying is if you Google. Oh, come on, let me off. Guys, it was in the news that's all I was doing it has just been topical how's this here Rob Beckett got caught out being a bit of a bad dad in the worst way possible I think bad dad's quite a bit underselling paedophile um the funny man was accused of being a paedophile I was not accused of being a paedophile not accused there

wasn't an accusation what you doing mate and then are you doing, mate? And then when he confused a child for his own at Legoland, Rob said on his Parent Nail podcast, a guy went, why do you keep looking at my door?

And I was going, no, I wasn't. I was some sort of paedo panic liar. Turns out the girl was wearing the same outfit his daughter had worn the day before.

Being a dad's hard enough. You can't just go... Were they six words short of word count? You cannot put in a newspaper that Funny Man was accused of being a paedophile. The Funny Man. If anyone's been accused of being a paedophile,

which I wasn't, you can't start the sentence with The Funny Man. If someone's been accused of being a paedophile, which I wasn't, you can't start the sentence with the funny man. If someone's nonsense, it don't matter if they're funny or not. Take that out of the description. Fuck me. There's pros and cons about Beckett. He's a funny guy.

He doesn't have to make me laugh, but I wouldn't leave him with my kids. Let's put it that way. I wouldn't unleash him in Legoland on his own. Anyway, I'm not a paedophile. I wouldn't want to see him on the school run, but I wouldn't want to see him own no anyway i'm not a peter i want to see him on the school run but i would want to see him at st albans arena i wouldn't want to see him on the school run but the kids will run if he's there quite rightly too anyway so um yeah i i didn't get accused but i got confused about which one was my kid anyway so this person nikki

pearson my little girl was taking part in a first baby ballet show and i was unable to make it as i was away on a hen do i asked um the dad my husband um to take lots of photos and videos of her so i could see the performance now that day i received a photo and a video of a girl that i didn't recognize and i rang him and asked why he didn't be pictured as someone else's child and he said he hadn't on close inspection he agreed that they were not of our child he had spent the whole show taking pictures and videos of a random child oh my god excuse was that they all look the same because of their costumes oh that is awful would burn the phone and uh burn the phone and run away that's the end of it that's the best thing to do is he a funny man though that's the question if

he's funny it's fine funny man founded videos of child in ballet outfit um right i've got i've got a couple of other good ones here um all right i'll do an informative one and then a funnier one okay this one um night terrors because i was talking about my daughter having night terrors oh yeah hi rob and josh i just listened to your episode we talked about night terrors myself and my brother had them until we were 16 and quite regularly however we never remembered them My aunt's favourite story is that when we went on holiday and she stayed with some of her friends, I, at the age of 14, screamed and ran through the living room where all the adults were having some drinks,

flailing my arms around, running with high knees, yelling, get it out of my mouth. Oh, my God. I have no recollection of this. That would freak me out. Get it out of my mouth oh my god i have no recollection of this that is that would freak me out i know i didn't get it out of my mouth it's anyone ever saying get it out my mouth is funny yeah yeah i mean that is that is absolutely so if your daughter ran through screaming you're just having a drink and a 14 year old girl runs through screaming shag get it out of my mouth

that is the evening ruined and then i, that's not even my daughter. She's just wearing the same clothes my daughter wore yesterday. Anyway, so my eight-year-old son started having night terrors. This is the same lady. So it's hereditary, apparently. Hereditary night terrors. Oh, okay. So her eight-year-old son started having night terrors at the age of two.

And I found that a gradual change in temperature can bring him out of it slowly and settle him down. I walked to the bathroom to run his hands under cold water he stops having a night terror then I can take him to bed they are heartbreaking to watch but he wakes up in the morning numb the wiser which is a big relief touring so that actually worked with us when three-year-old was having this night terror and it was a bit of a cold evening she was just going mental and crazy and not even looking at you looking through you so I picked her up and just went into the garden I just sort of walked around the garden and that cold sort of calmed her down and slightly woke her up a little bit and then i could take her back to bed

so change in temperature i think is is the way forward that's a very strong tip yes very much like one in a book that's a strong tip next to the lock of hair and a peanut. Right, last one, Josh, and then we'll bring on our guest. Hi, Rob and Josh. I love the podcast and have listened since the beginning and resonate with everything you talk about as I have two children of my own, ten and six. I wanted to share with you the story of when I accidentally left my daughter in a

sweet shop. We were on a family break. That sounds like a Roald Dahl book. Hopefully there weren't any funny men in there. In a sweet shop. We were on a family break. That sounds like a Roald Dahl book. Hopefully there weren't any funny men in there. In a sweet shop. We were on a family break with some friends at Buckling's. Oh, Rob, it's really pissing down. I can see next door.

I've got their washing outside, and I am loving it. Oh, no, covering slugs. This is absolute slug weather, mate. Absolute slug. Slugsville, Tennessee, mate. That's what this is. Anyway, they were at Bucklin's and we're heading to the fun fair.

We pass a sweet shop. My son, who was five at the time, wanted some sweets. Myself, my husband, and the two kids went in the shop.

It was quite busy, so I part my daughter 18 months. Funny name. We should do that every time. Every single time without fail.

Let's do that every single time without fail and see how quickly our list drops. when we hit 10 listener loss we'll stop doing it yeah okay it's quite busy busy so i parked my daughter 18 months strange name yeah in a push chair at the far side of the shop so he weren't in anyone's way my son chose his suite and he queued up to pay my husband said he was heading off to the fair to meet our friends

so i said we would follow and meet him there once we had paid i left the shop my son and he headed to the fun fair on arriving and finding my husband and our friends i realized my daughter in her push chair was not with us i assumed my husband had taken her and he thought i had her with me after the panic of realizing neither of us had her i ran back to the sweet shop in that situation who's at fault there he's got me the dad yeah because he's got no who's at fault there? It's got to be the dad. Yeah. Because he's got no kids. Yeah. At least the mum's got one kid.

Yeah, exactly. And normally it's with two kids. You take one each. That's how it is. Anyway. Yeah. So she runs back to the sweet shop to find a duta sitting in a pushchair with handfuls of sweets.

She has cheeks full of pineapple rock, which was dribbling out of her mouth. And the pushchair was full of half-sucked sweets. I was feeling a mixture of relief, embarrassment, and panic that she could have actually choked on the mouthfuls of rock when she was only 18 months. And also, as I sprinted back to the shop, I was so out of breath, I couldn't catch my breath to speak. I was then confronted by the lady working in the shop,

who was quite angry and made us pay for the sweets that my daughter had sucked on. Actually, that's fair enough. 19 quid! Whoa! That's a hungry daughter. That's a hungry daughter. It's an expensive sweet shop. Keep up the good work, Charlotte. Oh, thank you, Charlotte.

I'm glad you found your children, obviously. That goes without saying, at any point, if any of you lost your children, I hope you find them. Immediately. Yeah. Well done. And I definitely you find them. Immediately. Yeah. Well done. And I definitely think that was the dad's fault. 100%. We will be, with these stories, we will be handing out the blame and deciding it.

And that is legally binding. Yeah, exactly. He's in the doghouse for that. Now, Josh, who is our guest this week? Absolutely brilliant. I love this interview, Rob. Frankie Bridge. Yes.

She's a little bit late, but we didn't make too much of it. She's a pop star, babe. Exactly. She's only five, ten minutes late, wasn't she? But she was trying to get Charles to sleep, so I let her off. Yeah, exactly. No, it's great.

Frankie's absolutely brilliant. And she's, you know, I think brilliantly honest. You'll hear about all of that in the chat. And yeah, she's really lovely and lovely family, lovely couple, her and Wayne. Yeah, I hope you enjoy the interview. Here come the carrots making their way upfield, followed by the whole wheat bread, over to the two dozen eggs.

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Cashback Mastercard with up to 5% cashback on your purchases in your first three months. Terms and conditions apply. Thank you so much for having me. This is like the first podcast that I've ever asked to be on.

Oh, wicked! You should be really grateful, you know. Hell yeah! It's not late for I've ever asked to be on, so you should be really grateful, you know. Hell yeah. It's not late for something that I asked to be on, so thanks. You loved it so much you forgot you were on it. It happened to me the first time I went on the Jonathan Ross show, actually. I just didn't turn up. I completely forgot.

No, you didn't. And I'm joking. Oh, fuck you. It's going to be a long record, Frankie, if you thought I was serious. It's going to be a really, really long shit. Is thought I was serious. It's going to be a long shit. Do you want to do an intro, Rob? I mean, it feels like we've started. Hello and welcome to the podcast, Frankie Bridge.

Thank you for having me. And we should explain that you are a little bit late. Nothing wrong with that, Frankie. I'm not throwing any shade. However, that's why it's good for this podcast, because it's a real-life reflection of how busy people are with kids. So you're doing this podcast, but you've also got your nephews and your own kids in the house.

Is that right? Well, no. It's kind of holidays. Kind of, right. So Wayne has actually taken my kids out. So my kids aren't in the house. They're bowling with their cousins. But their baby cousins are here.

My sister's just popped out. And so I gave one of the twins a bottle and then he fell asleep on me and I'm gonna be honest I was just really bloody enjoying it and then I like put him on the sofa put a million cushions you know like a cushion fort and was just kind of watching him went to take a picture and then had a message from my PR girl like um Frankie the guys are waiting for you on parenting hell and I was like fuck just ran into his mum and was like, watch the baby, I was supposed to be on a cop-ass, bye, and just ran upstairs. And then here we are. It's the perfect podcast to be late for that reason, right?

I know, it's almost like I'd set it up, really. But I hate being late. How old's your nephew? I want to say 10 months. Oh, that's a cute age though isn't it when they're a bit settled into their routine they're all squidgy and they're like kind of just starting to stand up and like very my brother-in-law finds it very stressful which only makes me enjoy it even more um so yeah because i've done that um yes and they've got twins. Oh, blimey. Okay. Where's the other twin? He is out with my brother-in-law for a walk to get him to sleep.

Okay. And he's a little bit hungover today, so he's very much... He's only 10 months old. It's a bit of fun. We can all enjoy that kind of humor. Oh, I thought your jokes would be better than that. They're not, Frankie. They're good. They're solid, though, and they're reliable.

It's reliably... We reliably... You know, we know about what level we're getting. But I have to say, my sister looks forward to driving the boys, you know, when they're at that stage where they're having to drive the boys around in the car for sleep, and she looks forward to it so she can listen to your podcast. Oh, that's nice. Do you listen?

I do. I love it. We have bonded over said podcast. Oh, there we go. What bonded the sisterhood then over the podcast? Was there something in particular? Just that we found it very funny and I went to visit her. They live in Bermuda and we were driving around and the kids were asleep and we were both like laughing out loud. Oh, we've been to Bermuda by proxy. You have been to Bermuda. We should do a tour show in Bermuda, Rob. Book it in.

Yeah, I think they'd love you. Bermuda. We should do a tour show in Bermuda, Rob. Book it in. Yeah, I think they'd love you. They're over here now. So they live in Bermuda and then you went to visit and then they've come back and they're staying with you. Yeah, and then they've come back. Yeah, there was a lot of info in there. So what's your setup for people that don't know? What's your setup with kids and people in your house normally when you haven't got your sister over? So Wayne's mum and dad live with us, which seems to blow people's minds like on on Loose Women they talk about this a lot yes um they just can't seem to get their head around it um but it's great it just kind of happened by accident um they're both retired yeah uh they sold the house by

accident they did sell their house um they were on can't pay take it away um yeah so then they were like right um we need to move in for a bit because they'd sold their house or whatever yeah and then they just stayed and never left and we just we never had any other child care and yeah so it was when did they how long have they did they arrive temporarily yeah um this was years ago because when I first met Wayne he was playing football so his mum kind of like ran the house yeah sorted everything out for him so when I was still in the Saturdays so I was still working all the time so that was good for me I didn't I didn't want to be running a house or anything yeah of course um so it's just kind of gone from there to be honest and then we had kids and then they helped look after the kids and it's just escalated but a lot of people couldn't well think of anything worse when i was

growing up my gran we had like she had the kind of half the house and we had half the house if that makes sense you lived in berlin didn't you yeah we lived in unfortunate position of the wall yeah she was constantly trying to get over and we were trying to snipe her off leave it out man you picked your side but it was like we were in different houses that were kind of connected if you know what i mean are you right have you got separate areas or is it all one no it's all very much all one we are very much as one that must be that's hard for you though as well how old are your kids as well by the way frankie you got two boys is that right so um one is just about to turn six this week when we speak yeah um and seven so six and seven yeah all right but also quick turnaround yeah yeah there was 22 months 22 months blimey 22 months is fast isn't I know. Well, funnily enough, on Strictly,

my first turned one and by the end of Strictly, I was pregnant. And it's Wayne's. I think that happens on Strictly. Yeah, there's worse stories about Strictly. Don't worry about that.

Definitely Wayne's. It's definitely Wayne's. So was Wayne still playing football when you had kids or did he finish by then? He was still playing football when we had our first. Was that at West Ham when he didn't care anymore?

One of those. I'm joking. What are you trying to say? How dare you? I'm just, no, I'm messing. But what I'm saying is that footballers schedule is insane and you can never, so it must be, especially with you both. I always thought footballers had loads of time off.

I side with you a little bit, Josh, in that a day for a footballer is they go in, train, and then they predominantly come home and have a nap, which I very much knocked out of him very quickly. Okay. And then before a game, they go for a pre-match lunch and a pre-match walk, which I could never get my head around.

I was like, what's your life? So, yeah, don't feel too sorry for him. Well, no, I was thinking it more for you, like would you having to do more of the parenting when he was working because, you know, they do play away from home and all over the place, don't they, in the season? Did you mean that in two senses? It did sound like a suspect phrasing, Rob.

Did it? Did it sound bad? I didn't want to pick you up on it, but when Frankie did, I thought, oh, thank God she dropped that. They're waiting at different football stadiums for their football club at work. Yeah. Yeah, no, to be honest, I was working loads anyway.

And when we had, he was actually, I don't know, I don't remember him going away that much. Again, maybe Robbie wasn't actually playing that much. I know. It's funny for me to remember. But he was there. And when I went in to have him, when I went in to have Parker, bless him, he was still training.

And I think he might have had a match. And I made him sleep in the pull-out bed at the hospital. I was like, there's no way you're going home and leaving me so he'd go to training and stuff from the hospital sleeping on this like plastic pull-out bed did you and were you in the Saturdays for a period after you had a child yes I was still in the Saturdays when I had Parker. And what was that like? Did you take him on tour and stuff? No. So we had just, oh, what did I do? I can't even remember, you know, guys.

I must have had him while I was on tour. I can't remember. As long as you have him when he was in S Club Juniors, it's all right. Oh, yeah. That's the key point. Yeah, no, he kind of must have come round with us. I don't really know. No, you know what?

We only ever used to do, I don't know what it's like for you guys, but on tour for us, we'd only ever really do two shows back to back. I think I did a lot of, like, travelling there and then coming home. Yeah. So, like, it was quite broken up. Yeah, so you could get, like, childcare and things like that or if there was only coming for one hotel. Like, if you went with, you know, a friend or your sister or the grandparent,

they could sit in a hotel room, I imagine, with the baby while you did the show. Yeah. And stuff. Oh, amazing. But yeah, because you're both so busy, it must be hard to sort of balance it all out. But now, obviously, you're still working loads. And Wayne doesn't, Wayne don't do anything, does he? Fuck all, no.

So does he do more of the parenting now? Because you're writing your books. You've got another book out. So when you're writing the books, is he doing more of the – what's the schedule at home? Because now he's retired. He doesn't have a job, does he, really? Yeah, no, he retired, like, years ago now.

He did two weeks in the jungle. That was tough. Yeah, that was really hard. He had to do a pre-jungle walk, didn't he, before the show? He had to do a pre-jungle walk and lunch before he went in. And that when when he got back and then that was it um yeah you know he no he does he does do most of it and um he's he's good at it because he's great at playing with them and stuff like i'm not very good at the playing stuff i'm good at like bedtime yeah all of that although he did complain that yesterday I came home from work had a nap his

mum was on the phone and he came back from the pub and Carter our youngest was like no one's giving me dinner he was like oh right yeah I guess I'll just do dinner then yeah and I was like oh yeah yeah did you feed our child I think that happens sometimes when you do have a lot of child care like of my um my inlaws, they've run the corner, so they pop in quite a lot. My mum and dad are up a lot. But when there are a lot of you in the house, sometimes you actually do less parenting as a whole

because you think, I'm sure someone else is doing it. Yeah, and that's the thing. You do. You all think each other's done it and then you're like trying to get them to go to bed and they're like, but we haven't had dinner. And you're like, yeah, sorry. Yep, sorry about that

how do you split it and does he because I see I know Wayne a little bit and he's always up doing some sort of exercise some sort of insane exercise regime so is he normally up early and exercising then does the kids breakfast and school run stuff and then you do more stuff later on or how do you well yeah it's kind of such a mix as I'm sure you're aware like I don't it's not every week I'm as busy not every day it's the same so if I'm home I will do school runs and pickups and or we'll do it together like I always think our kids are so lucky they get both of us there so much of the time whereas I would never have had that as a kid um but yeah he would generally either get up at the minute he's getting up early to do a workout before I go to work and then like sorting the

kids out um or we'll both kind of do it once we've done school drop off yeah whatever and then we kind of just figure it out as we go like we're not like the most organized people but he has this real issue with like I kind of tend to go, you're the stay-at-home parent. So you need, they've got a party next week. You need to get a present. He's like, no, it's your job. And I'm like, well, technically it's not my job. Like, you should be doing it.

You're actually retired now. So you should be doing it. He just can't do those types of things. But that's fine. I just literally go online and order something and that's it. But he's very hands-on. It's weird to retire at like... He was younger than we are now, Rob,

when he retired from football, presumably. Imagine just going, well, that was it? That was my career done now? Well, I think a lot of footballers struggle with that because your purpose has been taken away, that kind of thing. But I think maybe it might be a good thing for you guys, though, because I think you have to make a lot of sacrifices if you're with someone who's in a band like you or

someone in a football team because their career sort of dominates what the other person sort of does so like if you get a move somewhere that you sort of have to go and then if you're on a big worldwide tour you're just not home for six to eight months sometimes it's sort of yeah it might not it might not work properly if you met at 21 if you know what I mean because we completely met at the right time because I always say that I'm like when we were together he did move he got a move to um Man City Sunderland which was like he was at Man City when I met him which was not too bad but then Sunderland's like felt like the other side of the world and I did say to him like I would never be able to be that girlfriend or wife that can move with you yeah my job so we're quite lucky that we met when he was a bit older and he was kind of near

the end and then we had kids whatever my career was near in the end so it kind of all worked out for the better yeah of course yeah some people I know they move all over the place yeah my son looks awful did it like when you don't when you look at it from that point of view, of moving the family somewhere. I mean, no one feels sorry for footballers, but let's not act like anyone does. Yeah, okay, fair enough. Poor Lionel Messi's just had to move his family to Paris, Rob. Yeah, I know.

To another mansion in Paris. Do you know what I mean? And how have the kids been since lockdown and stuff? Because I imagine they were at school when it first started, but are they all back in school now and loving it and stuff? Yeah, they are. I mean, loving it is a strong... Like, my eldest seems to really love school.

My other one could just not care any less. Like, he's interested in the stuff that he's interested in. But school, like, he literally said to me the other day, he was like, Mummy, considering he's five. Yeah. Mummy, it's just so rubbish because all I do is get up, I go to school, I come home, I do homework, I go to bed and I get up and I go to school again.

And I was like, welcome to the rest of your fucking life, mate. You will go to school and then you will get a job and it will just be this for the rest of your life. Unless you're a footballer, then you can knock off at 33 yes exactly so i'm always saying to him like look you either need to be like really like really concentrate at school or like be really good at some sort of sport or find something like a talent that you're really good at you've got to find something to distract you just find something can you see already if they're like got your performing gene or if they've got the wayne bridge sporting gene

i mean i'd love to know my my two were like where we live football i don't know same for you guys but yours are a bit younger but i at football is like a massive everyone's so desperate for their kids to play football i know it's a bit tragic i find at points just a bit younger, but football is like a massive, everyone's so desperate for their kids to play football. I know, it's a bit tragic, I find, at points. It's just a bit embarrassing. South East London, they're braver than anything. Anything else? Anything else.

Like scientists? Nah, football. Boring, football, that's all they want. You can see in the saw kit. It's such a long shot as well, isn't it? I know, isn't it? And they just like, they all play it. And like my two are the only two were

the only two in their year groups that didn't play football which i think just blew people's minds yeah like they were the only two and they just couldn't care less and my son at one point i was like oh is he gonna walk past everyone and be like really upset that he's the only one not there and he was just like bye see you tomorrow but the thing is though Wayne's not very footbally as you know he played football but he's not really into football massively he's more into music and things like that isn't he really I find yeah I mean they've both started my my youngest is playing piano this time the other one's playing violin which is just gonna be hell on a stick but you know I'm encouraging it um so it's looking at the minute like they're more

um more music i mean let's see how long that lasts he had a drum kit last year and that's already in the loft so or you know you've got a new book out now that maybe there could be writers like their mom they might be writers they do and they seem quite proud of me about that as well which is really sweet which you know they couldn't care less like we've tried to show them stuff and like my eldest is just like looks up from his ipad and looks back down again and he's like yeah whatever and you're showing him videos of s club juniors going come on mate give me a chance here i know yeah i'm like i'm a bit have you ever seen mean girls i feel like i'm the mum like i'm a cool mum like showing them pictures of me when i was in videos when i was performing when they were all their boy mates come round.

Like, still got it. And then just sort of people are like, that's me and Craig David or just some people that were really massive at the time. And they're like, oh. Yeah, that's going to be me. Also, the thing is, I do think kids are more like, you know, at school books are such a big thing and getting a library book and being able to read, they're so proud of it.

So if their mum's written a book, it's a really impressive thing and they're sort of proud of you about it and stuff. Did you talk about the kids? Because the book's about motherhood, mental health and me. Do you talk about the kids in the book much or is it more your sort of experiences of being a mum? Just to be clear, by saying me, you mean Frankie. It's not about motherhood, mental health and Rob Beckett.

It's not Rob's version of motherhood. It's called Grow, Motherhood, Mental Health and Me, aka Frankieie bridge not rob beckett she was really struggling with the word count so she wrote 100 pages on rob beckett motherhood mental health and rob beckett what he means to women i think you could just title yours chicken on the floor and then be done with it. Fried Chicken by a Bin by Rob Beckett. Yeah. Can I just say, I know I digress, but at that moment I said to Wayne,

I was like, you know, in that moment he felt like he was being so profound. He had just said something that no one else had ever said in that moment. Can I be honest with you? I don't even remember filming it. I don't at no point, because if I even knew that I did that, I wouldn't have posted it, but I just did it. But, yeah, that was cool. I've actually, you know, those are people who talk to me about that.

I've had some backlash from geezers going, my mate saw it when apparently he had a photo of you. You weren't even drunk. You put it all on. Oh, my word. It's a conspiracy theory. I was like, there's no way. If you've managed to do that,

Rob, why have you waited 10 years to do that? If you've had that in your locker, that unbelievable drunk Rob performance. The weird thing about that is I get tagged. People, I get tagged with KFC on every single post anyone ever posts KFC with, to the point where people have been sending me complaints about the chicken.

Stopping it. That's it. Put Ash Brown in it at fucking Croydon and KFC. Fuming. At Rob Beckett and at KFC. It's fine. I've got a hotline to the Colonel going, come on, mate. Sort the Ash Browns out.

Rob, do you know what the secret sauce is? Do you know what the special ingredients are? I don't know what the secret blend of 11 herbs and spices is. I've got no idea. I thought they'd let you into that by now. No, nothing. Just for your info, for your next next celebration there is a gravy fountain with fried chicken that you can have you know like when you do it like a chocolate fountain you

could do it as a great i've got to try and move on from it though frank i cannot be divined by fried chicken that can't be my legacy i think it is my legacy isn't it it's too late your kids are gonna be so proud when they're older we all know when die, what is going to be in your obituary. It's going to be a picture of you next to a bin. Next to the camera. I'm going to have to go to Qatar and get drunk and get arrested to change it. And then be one of those three Rob Beckett stuck behind bars in Qatar. Stop it.

As long as you're in a bucket hat, no one cares. Yeah, exactly. I'm sure I'll be fine. I'm sure they'll let me have that in prison. I can't even remember what you asked me. About Yeah, exactly. I'm sure I'll be fine. I'm sure I'll let me have that in prison. Anyway. I can't even remember what you asked me. Well, about your book, your PR person's going to be furious that you turned it back around onto me. That's the book time done.

Let's get back to your parenting. I'm really sorry. You're doing PR for KFC now. What did you ask me? What about my book? Your book. So the book, is it more about sort of like, because obviously, I think it's fairly well documented,

you struggled with mental health from postnatal depression. Was that after your first child or second or both? No, so I had antenatal depression. Sorry, sorry. No, that is fine. So depression while I was pregnant. And funnily enough, I assumed I would get postnatal depression. And luckily I didn't.

But it is kind of, it is all aimed around mental health and parenting, but also just a book to say, look, this is how I have done everything. This is how I have found parenting. Yeah. But it's not right or wrong. And whatever you do, it is not right or wrong, because I can't stand the pressure and the judgment that comes from being a parent. And I don't know whether you feel it as men but definitely as women it's like this it can be quite competitive and people can get especially online people can get really angry yeah things you choose to do and I just don't understand it because I mean you've

got multiple children so you know from one child to the next how different yeah exactly it is to parent each child and um yeah and I've got my psychologist who kind of gives insights and tips and my kid's paediatrician who kind of explains the way kids work and how to deal with it. Oh, that's good. That's really, yeah, because it said you've got,

it's a Dr. Ed Abrahamson and the psychologist as well, Dr. Khan. So yeah, I think that's really good actually because it's sort of, you can talk about your anecdotal experiences, but then they can be explained with academia, as it were, do you know what I mean? Of why you felt like that, and why that was happening.

Which I think is really important. There's a Ruby Wax's book, not to plug another book, but does that because she's... You get really badly these plugs, isn't it, Frankie? This is going to get deleted. Other people have written books about mental health, I'm afraid, Frankie. Yeah, you've really cracked into a new thing tell me about this movie but rob it sounds really good i'd love to hear more about it at the same time as mine

that would be even better well i saw it it was just left on the side of the counter of a kfc in camberley no but she's she basically struggled with her mental health and then so she did she learned to be a therapist and stuff and said okay I understand how to deal with these things and these are the CBT methods however why do we feel like that and all the therapists said oh we don't know and then you had to speak to a neuroscience so she did like a degree in neuroscience to sort of understand both sides which is what this book is where you've got the day-in day-out stuff of why you feel like that and your feelings and your kids but by having the explanations I think it makes understanding it makes you be able to deal with it better exactly which has been my whole journey with mental health which is why I wrote my first book just to kind of be like

this is what happened but here are the people that explained it to me helped me to understand it and to understand it medically kind of makes you be able to make sense of it instead of feeling like you've just lost the plot yeah exactly I think it's such a great and brave thing to do, especially because there's so many men and women will look up to you and stuff. And, you know, on paper, you know, success with the Saturdays and, you know, married to a footballer, all those sort of things that a young girl might think, if I have all that, I'll be really happy. But that's not how brains work, is it?

Yeah, no. And that's exactly why I've always spoken about it, to be honest. So, yeah, it's been great. It's been a great journey. And obviously the book, like through lockdown and all of that stuff, like that was like a real insight into obviously like being at home all the time with the kids. And I think most parents found that really difficult, hence how you started your podcast. Yeah, of course.

So it just seemed the right time. Did you find that, you know, the circumstance of lockdown, that made you sort of slip back a little bit into old habits and you had to work on getting back out of those sort of, you know, the circumstance of lockdown, it made you sort of slip back a little bit into old habits and you had to work on getting back out of those sort of, you know, depressing sort of depression moments and stuff like that? Yeah, you know what, for me, a lot of my anxiety comes from like social anxiety. Yeah. So at first it was just great. I was like, oh, my God, I don't have to say yes to things I don't want to do.

I don't have to make up a lie as to why I can't come or say yes and then be like Wayne but I really don't want to go um so I I kind of like really enjoyed it and then when we started to come out of lockdown I was like oh shit there's like parts of my old life I don't really want to have back you know that whole busyness and whatever um so I found that really difficult and then like with the kids just explaining stuff to them like oh you're allowed to go and see nanny and granddad today oh is that have the germs gone then yeah no but now we're just allowed like it's just so weird do you speak to your children about uh your mental health like are they aware of what you've been through and stuff um I don't think they're aware as in like I've never kind of properly told them yet

but like you know if I have a day like Wayne's very good if I have a day where I just can't get out of bed or you know I can't stop crying or whatever which a lot far and few between these days but if I do he's very good at just kind of taking the kids out and I just kind of say to the boys

oh mummy's not feeling very well and I just kind of accept it at the minute but I try and get them to talk about their mental health in a way of I don't know like when I pick my kids up from school they do not want to talk to me they don't want to tell me what they've done or who they've played with and I remember that feeling but I still do it to them yeah um so at bedtime I kind of just say them, so what have you liked about your day today and what didn't you like about your day today? And then they kind of tell me and then I get an idea of, you know, what's making them happy or unhappy.

And then if I forget, they're like, Mummy, you haven't asked us about our day. Sorry. But imagine if you got in from work and went, so what did you do this morning? Who did you talk to? You'd be like, shut up shut up like if it is an adult you feel like that but that's a good way of doing it at bedtime what they liked or what they didn't like well because they're avoiding going to sleep as well so they'll tell you anything yes just to stay awake my daughter you know it was a heat wave a

few weeks ago it was red hot then they were getting too hot and sweaty so I know let's just bring them down and start a bit longer now even it's it's like, if when it's cold, they go, Oh, I'm sweaty. I need to come downstairs. Like, no, you're not.

You heard me say that once. I know. Don't, we're currently sleeping on the floor because I sold our bed and I haven't bought a new one. What? What? What? Why did you sell your bed when you didn't have a new one?

Well, I just decided that I didn't like it and I know what bed I want, but then we haven't painted the walls, Josh. Oh no. no it's the color of the bed and it's all a process and then it'll probably take six weeks won't it yeah you know you're on the floor what do you mean on the floor we're on a mat yeah you know those blow-up sofas yeah we're all in one of those um we we're just on the mattress on the floor oh so not too bad, so our kids sleep in bed with us most nights. Yeah. Do they start in their own beds or do they just...

Well, not at the minute, Rob. Okay, so they go to your mattress on the floor. Yes, and then we all get in. And they've got proper beds. Yeah, they've got this amazing bunk bed with a fricking slide and they still come and sleep on the floor with me. Have you and Wayne thought about sleeping in the bunk bed and then they can have the mattress well when Wayne is drunk Wayne is not allowed to come to bed so he goes to sleep in the bunk beds

he has sent he has admitted to me that he was at one night, got home, and went into said bunk beds and was sending his friend videos of him going down the slide. Well, that's something I'd be tempted to sneak into the bunk beds once they were asleep on the mattress. No, because it's so comfy. I actually, I like having them there, but the dog's now joined in as well. Behind the dog, okay. But we have a single mattress next to our mattress on the floor

for normally the oldest child. Sounds like the poshest crack den I've ever heard. It is, yeah. But we have a single mattress next to our mattress on the floor for one, for normally the oldest child. Sounds like the poshest crack den I've ever heard. It is, yeah. And then, like, it's all bumped up to my side of the side. So it's like one big massive bed. Yeah. Yet my son still gets off of his mattress and gets on my mattress. Really?

I just don't understand why they need to be so close. Also, because at seven, they're getting big now as well. This is what I mean. So what's, have you got a plan, not to pry, you know, it's up to you, have you got a plan,

are you going to try and get them into the bed or just wait for them to not want to be in the bed? I mean, I'm not going to lie, Rob, probably wait till they just don't want to be in there anymore

because it would just be so much easier. Is the new bed off-putting? Has it got like bars around it and a lock so that you can like keep them out?

It's basically a big grown-up cot because a lot of that happens a lot of kids so they get into the bed there was a bloke i met who actually put in his bedroom because it was happening an actual bed so they have the double bed and then an actual bed it's like you've got would you did you normally have the actual bed in there like or is it just a mattress that's been put in there since you got rid of your bed? No, yeah, no, it was an actual bed, but they'd come and get in that anyway.

But when they were smaller, it was a lot easier. But obviously now, and they always sleep diagonally. They were starfish. My Angus wants to be like right up my ass. Like, they can't get any closer. And Wayne, bless him, sometimes ends up on the single mattress. He's proper bottom of the pecking order now. Yeah, because no wonder he's always up early training.

I would be too if I was getting bumped to a single mattress. Honestly, he'd come in one night and, like I said, the rule is because he snores so much when he's had a drink, if he goes out, he just doesn't come and get in our bed. He can seat wherever he wants to snore in our bed. And he'd come in one night and I got up, because our son's got asthma, I got up to get something, and I went to open the door,

and he was at our bedroom door, and I went, what are you doing? And he was like, I'm coming to bed. And I was like, really? And then I turned around, he went to get in the bed, and there was literally a slither of bed left, right? And he's trying to get on. He couldn't even get both legs on. And I looked at him, and I went, what the fuck are you doing?

And he went, trying to get on he couldn't even get both legs on and I looked at him and I went what the fuck are you doing and he went trying to get in bed and I went no I said get off and go and get in the other bed and he picked up the dog thinking I was talking about the dog picked the dog up put him on the floor and I went no not the dog you and he was like no so I was like yeah fully at the bottom now what's the dog what size of the dog what breed are we looking at he's a multi-poo multi-poo called turbo multi-poo called turbo i didn't know that multi-poo was a breed of dog is it like buying a load of them on multi i don't know I don't know whether I want to Google this, do I? Maltipoo? Maltese. Maltese. I thought you meant Maltese as in multi-story.

No, I'm sorry. I'm from Essex. I don't pronounce words properly. Yeah, Maltipoo. Oh, that is a small dog. Yeah, he's quite small. Yeah, yeah. Is it from Malta then? It's from Malta. Maltese is from Malta. What, the chocolate? Yeah. I don he's quite small. Is it from Malta then? It's from Malta. And Maltese

is from Malta. What, the chocolate? Yeah. I don't know, actually. Google it, Rob. I've just googled Malta. No, they're made from malt, aren't they? Yeah, but is malt from Malta? Is malt from Malta? This has gone off the rails.

Will this be making the edit? I thought Ruby Wax was a low moment for the book promo, but this is a new... Unfortunately, this will make the edit, Frankie. And there'll be someone screaming at their car radio, no, you idiots! Malt is a separate thing. I look forward to the 70 emails about malt.

Yes. Anyway, so did you find writing the... Well, two books books now do you find that a kind of cathartic experience and do you feel like that helps you understand what you've been through cathartic no um stressful yes really really helps your mental health journey just adding more pressure it really doesn't um but it's worth it in the end yeah And it did make me understand myself a lot. So like when I wrote Open, it made me really understand that a lot of my anxiety and my depression and stuff comes from control.

So like I'm not controlling in day-to-day basis. Anyone can do whatever they want. But I've always felt the pressure to keep, in my head, I like to keep all my loved ones and my friends and stuff safe and happy. And I always took that on as like my role. In one bed. In one bed.

We all sleep in one room. Wayne's mum and dad as well. I think that's weird. And I'm going to call you out on that. Have you seen Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? Yeah, it's like that. All the granddads. And so I did learn a lot about myself through that and then with grow

it kind of came out of lockdown of like the frustration of the of the fact that parents don't feel like they can talk about kind of in the way that you guys do very well I have to say is like talking about the things that you find hard and the things that you haven't enjoyed or the things that maybe you haven't done perfectly but being able to laugh at it and not feel like you're a bad parent yes and without having to say my biggest thing that annoys me the most is that we all feel like we have to say I love my children but yeah I know you love your children just because you don't like bath time or bedtime or you don't play with them for 20 hours a day I don't sit here and think oh god you must hate them yeah yeah of course it's just like anything isn't sit here and think, oh God, you must hate them. Yeah. Yeah, of course. It's just that anything, isn't it?

It's just that, oh God, is that nap time over? What's my alarm? What alarm? What's that in a 10 to 3? That's the end of the interview if it had started on time. That's what that alarm is. What's happening at 10 to 3? Frankie, what have you done?

Another interview, guys. Another interview. Who with? Who is it? I don't know. Come on, tell us. No. We'll probably get a serious one now. Another interview. Who with? Who is it? I don't know. Come on, tell us. No.

We'll get a serious one now. Like magazine or like newspaper type thing, yeah. That's as fun as this, guys. All they're going to do is try to get you to slag off one of the Saturdays. We're better than that. We're not going to do that. But which one do you hate the most? What's Molly really like? They won't be talking to me about Ruby Fax's's book yeah so there's another book um no no but

we're promoting your one and it's called bro mental health motherhood and i keep going off on a tangent and then you two keep bringing it back like proper presenters i'm very impressed but that's not why i'm here guys i'm just here to have love you're here to fulfill the obligation from the publisher you've got to do five to ten bits of press and we're one of them and you're very happy about it before you get thrown to the sun that's not true i asked to be on here oh brilliant you guys left me waiting and i was thinking oh my god how embarrassing they're like we don't want her on our podcast and then i genuinely it's like you, when you text a new person when you first start dating and I was like, oh my God.

No, Frankie, I, I, I, no, I tell you what, I'm going to pull you on this. I DMed you ages ago and you aired me. I slipped into your DM, yeah, I'm going to find it. Was it about the podcast, Rob?

Did I? Hello, Frank, here we go. 7th of June, 2020. Hello, Frankie. Hope you're good.th of June, 2020. Oh, my God. Hello, Frankie. Hope you're good. Do you fancy coming on my parenting podcast? I'm Josh Whitaker.

We could do it over the internet. It takes 30 minutes, and it's just us slagging off our kids and moaning about how hard it is. Oh, no. We are recording tomorrow at 1 o'clock. If that doesn't work, we can do another time. Hope you, Wayne, and the kids are all good. Nothing. Nothing. You know what?

I'm going to be honest with you, Rob. Come on. I didn't know that you and Josh were funny at that point. Well, the jury's still out on Josh. You're happy I'll sit next to a bin and eat some chicken. I don't know how funny it could be

to listen to someone talking about bin day. Do you know what I mean? Exactly, yeah. Yeah, well, you know, you didn't take a chance on us then, but we didn't air you, Frank. We've always wanted you on. Exactly. The moment you had something to promote, here we were, and we're delighted.

Yeah, now you're booked now. Oh, Jock is on fire. See, I love that. I give him a bit of shit and he comes back strong with an absolute clamour. I feel awful now. I'm so sorry, Rob. Anything else you need me to do, I'll be there,

even when I have nothing to promote. Also, I've got in here a couple of other messages saying fancy a drink sometime, Wayne's a bore, stuff like that you'd ignore as well. Fair enough. You weren't supposed to read that.

I'm sorry, Frankie. I'm really sorry. Sorry, Josh, that I didn't send you. No, it's fine. It's fine. That's why the book is about me. You Sorry, really sorry. Sorry, Josh, that I didn't send you. No, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. That's, you know, that's why the book is about me. You know, motherhood.

And Rob Beckett. Exactly. Rob Beckett's issues with Frankie. Should we do the final question, Josh? Because Frankie's got to go and speak to other publications. Yeah, exactly. She's got, you know. The alarm's gone.

Absolutely fine. Right, here's the final question we always ask, Frankie. It's called Crosby's Law, where Matt Crosby sort of moaned about his partner's parenting. But now if there's one thing that Wayne does, your partner Wayne does with the kids that really annoys you, but you can't really mention it in case you have a row, is there something, or you might have mentioned it already,

but is there something that he does that just really annoys you when it comes to the kids? Oh, God. I mean, there's loads. I can whittle it down. Just give me a second, guys. Is it the hangovers? If he's hungover?

No, you know what? He's very good on a hangover. Is he? Oh, that's annoying. That's the only way we've managed to stay together for 10 years. Yeah, exactly. It's not how much partying or drinking does your partner do. It's how can they cope the next day is the killer.

It doesn't matter what they do the night before. No, it honestly doesn't. I couldn't care less. As long as he's up the next day bright and breezy on that trampoline, I don't care. He's been on it all night, basically. It just so happens the kids are awake. Oh my God, I heard something and I forgot it. Oh, sorry. No, you know what it is? night basically it just so happens the kids are awake oh my god something at all i forgot oh sorry

no you know what it is what annoys me is that like he's he's definitely the fun one which is is fine because he's so much better at it than me yeah but it's like my my eldest i was always like his favorite and now it really annoys me that wayne's his favorite really okay yeah well because it also does it annoy you as well how much exercise he does even when he's hungover? Because that would drive me mad. How much exercise is he doing? You've never seen anything.

He goes to runs but puts backpacks on with extra weight on it because he's so fit that he needs more weight. Yeah, he does do that. He does do that, Josh. That's not going to be good for his neck, Rob. I'm going to tell you now. In the long term, he's going to get a stiff neck before you know it. A stiff neck, massive stiff neck.

You need to pass that on because that's going to be problematic. It's more annoying if I'm like sat on the sofa and then he's on like his third workout of the day and I'm like shoveling in some chocolate. Third workout of the day? Just have a fucking rest, babe. Do you know what I mean? Just sit down, eat some shit.

If he could just be more of a slob that would just be better for all of us yeah exactly okay well we'll have to let him know we'll have to get him on here and give his

side of the story frankly I know yeah I did think if he was here I was going to say he'd probably love to pop on but he's not here he's out having

fun with the kids that was a fun one before you go Frankie what is the name of Ruby Wax's book just so that we say it one more time fuck off no let's do a proper plug for your book Oh, the fun one. Before you go, Frankie, what is the name of Ruby Wax's book? Just so that we say it one more time. Fuck off.

No, let's do a proper plug for your book. The only reason you're here, you aired us when you were... You talk about your blooming books all the time. I thought we'd been very reluctant in this interview. Ruby Wax has got more out of it than we have. This is possibly the only interview that you haven't mentioned it. Really? Well, you know, we're not going to now. But if you do know, we'll save that for the outro.

But your book, Frankie's new book, Grow Motherhood, Mental Health and Me, a.k.a. Frankie Bridge, is out now. 19th of August it comes out. So it's out now. It's exciting, isn't it? Thanks, guys. Thanks, Frankie. It's been an absolute pleasure.

Thanks. I'm so sorry that I was late. It's all right. You're late, but you finished on time. it's exciting isn't it thanks guys thanks Frankie it's been an absolute pleasure thanks I'm so sorry that I was late don't worry you're late but you finished on time that's the main thing you were late

applying to a DM very late on that one yeah I feel really bad about that I'm such a glory hunter it's 40 months you know

then all of a sudden I'll put a bucket out next to some chicken you answer my DMs I know I feel like that's probably happened to you a lot lately

good luck with the book I enjoy your more boring interview thank you bye bye to some chicken, you answer my DMs. I know. I feel like that's probably happened to you a lot lately. Good luck with the book. I enjoy your more boring interview. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Frankie Bridge, what a lovely woman.

She's brilliant, Frankie. They're both, I know Wayne. I've met Frankie a few times. So do you know Wayne through The Jungle, Rob, or just general? No, so I know Wayne Bridge through Paul McCaffrey,

who was on this show they've been like childhood friends for 20 years they knew each other at school i think or just being from winchester and yeah paul's big southampton fan and he played at southampton wayne so um i've uh i basically got absolutely battered i used to get drunk with wayne and paul and a few others on zoom in the first lockdown. No. Yeah, yeah. So to the point where I was sick in the toilet, I just got so drunk. Oh, no. Celebrity life you lead, Rob.

Yeah, it's really crazy. Just in your house, drinking alone. But I'd get battered because I just didn't, I couldn't, you can't judge how pissed you are sat at a computer. No. But yeah, so I know Wayne a little bit. And then I've met up with him a couple of times.

Like he's come to see me do gigs when I've done Paul McCaffrey's gigs. So I know him a little bit and we chat a little bit. Yeah. But I've not really spoke to Frankie that much. But yeah, she's lovely. She's really nice

and so good being open about all those kind of things. Hence the name of us. I think that's such a positive thing to be open about because I'm sure even when, you know, Frankie was first going through stuff,

it wasn't as open a thing in society. Yeah, exactly. She's, you know, part of the reason that it's changed, I think. Well, I think so, yeah, because I think she spoke about it a lot. I think she did that sport relief thing and talking about mental health. And like you say, she's, you know, in a girl band, a massive girl band, and Wayne's a footballer.

It's really like no one feels sorry for football. It's posh on backs, isn't it, mate? It's posh on backs. But when that film came out as well, mental health wasn't a massive topic. I mean, that's brilliant what she's doing. it's really like, no one feels sorry for her. It's posh on backs, isn't it, mate? It's posh on backs. But when that film came out as well, mental health wasn't a massive topic. I mean, that's brilliant what she's doing. She's really lovely.

And yeah, really nice, really nice person. Couldn't agree more. Really funny. Doesn't need to have that much personality when they're that beautiful in a girl band.

Exactly. She's got all the tools. It's similar to me, isn't it? Because me and you, we need a personality. We need a personality. Frankie need a personality, Rob. Frankie Bridge does not need that much personality.

But she's got it as well. She's got it. Good luck to her. And the moment she becomes, you know, punctual, she'll be the full package, Rob. That's the thing. It's a hangover from the girl band days. No one's ever on time.

But, you know, we'll forgive her. Anyway, right. We'll speak to you on Tuesday with another episode. See you then. Bye.