Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S03 EP38: Paris Fury

Episode Date: November 19, 2021

S03 EP38: Paris FuryJoining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is Paris Fury. Paris' fantastic book 'Love & Fury' is available now. And yes, we're doing a live show on the 31st January 2022 at Hackney Empire.Join the mailing list here to be eligible for pre-order tickets:www.parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.comA special early bird pre-sale link will be sent out on Thursday morning for mailing list members. Then general sale on Friday 26th so make sure you sign up! Thanks - Rob and Josh xxxIf you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with your tips, advice and, of course, tales of parenting woe.

Because, let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Daddy! Daddy? Yeah? Can you go and buy my mom? What? Can you go and buy my mom?

Pardon? Can you go and buy my mom? Yeah. Can you say Josh Widdicombe? Josh Widdicombe. And Rob Beckett. Rob Beckett. There we go.

Lovely, efficient after the poo. Yes. Oh, is that what that was? I thought you said quite my bum, didn't he? Oh, is that what you were saying? Yeah, I couldn't make it out. Hi, Rob, Josh and Michael. Please meet Liliana, who is 45 months old. That is happy that's got me better that's got to be bad

what's that almost for almost for almost for as you hear at the start Lily was busy attending to her needs as she normally is in the evening no matter what she always wants me to attend to her needs after the job is completed I tried to persuade her to call her mother, but will always refuse if I'm home. It's my chore. Best regards, Matthew S. Matthew S, who is 124 months old. I'd love to know our oldest listener.

If you think you're the oldest listener, let us know. Oldest listener, yes, please. Oldest listeners, please. And I want your age in years and months. Yes. That'd be good. Because we might have two people that's 78 and we just need to find out who's the oldest 78-year-old.

Exactly. My dad's 76 and listens. Can you beat that? Oh, there we go. Do any of you remember the Blitz? Do email in. I could get a bit dark. Maybe don't keep it less off the war.

Yeah, right. Do any of you remember that exciting time after the Second World War? Yeah, when you could have three eggs a week. Exactly.

What a time to be alive. I had a routine about that. My dad used to go, oh, you can leave your door open when I was a kid. No one would nick anything.

I said, fuck all to Nick. There's nothing to Nick. Well, we didn't lock our door for the whole of my childhood, Rob. I know, but you're in the middle of nowhere, weren't you?

Yeah, yeah, exactly. People going in and out of each other's houses in the East End. We were all family in those days, Rob, weren't we? In Darty. In Darty. Darty, Darty more. Josh, how's your week been, all right? Any news?

Oh, yeah, I've had a bit of an issue. Oh, no. I've lost some of the balls to hungry, hungry hippos. Oh, God, they're just starving hippos now. Yeah, they're starving. They're starving to eat. I don't know what to do because there's no... I don't have to buy a whole new hungry hippos.

Just buy some little balls. But where do you get hippo food? Hippo balls? Where do you get hippo balls? Where do you get hippo balls? Where do I buy hungry, hungry hippo balls? If anyone's got any spare hungry, hungry hippo balls, I'd get hippo but you can you can find it where do i buy hungry hungry hippo balls if anyone's got any spare hungry hungry hippo balls i'd love or knows how to source them if you need our hippo balls i'd go to wuhan wet markets that's how this whole problem

started mate they're now a guy um okay well that's literally all that's happened um i don't got a question when i used a lollipop man when i'm dropping my daughter off at school with my daughter to cross the road but when i come out of the school and i'm on my own he still stops traffic for me on my own as an adult is that allowed what's the rules on lollipop lollipop man usage are you allowed solo adult yeah but it's a bit demeaning isn't it because he obviously thinks you can't use a zebra crossing in your own right yeah yeah well no there wasn't no there is no zebra crossing on his one. Oh, I see. He's just, he's rough shotting it. He's going bareback just on the road.

Yeah, mate, he don't give a shit, this guy. No, no, no crossing. He's just, I'm there. Well, I don't think then you should be allowed to because you're an adult. You should have to wait until the traffic calms down. Well, I don't, I mean, I'm not, I'm not pushing this. No, I'm not.

He's doing it. I'm not going to go at you. That's what I'm saying is if I was in a car and a lollipop man stopped me at a non-crossing and then, you know, TV's Rob Beckett just crossed the road, I'd presume that you brought your own lollipop man as a kind of actor. Prima Donna. I saw that Rob Beckett.

He's brought his own lollipop man to cross the road. He's that much of a star. Well, imagine that, having a lollipop man everywhere you went. But I do think the lollipop... Well, I think maybe if I've just dropped off at school and I sort of know him, he does it for me, but do you think he just does it to random adult men? Because you don't know who's dropped off a kid

and who's just going to work. Yeah, of course, I suppose. Yeah, I don't know. And is he doing it on the way to... Like, is he doing it all day? Like, can he just go anywhere? No, no, he does just school hours. He's not there for, like, eight hours. Can he go on the M25 and just... with his lollipop?

What's the ruling? How strong is the lollllipop do you have to stop at every point i think you could take a lollipop onto heathrow runway and the plane would stop i think it's just in bill it's in bill you see a lollipop man you're stopping yeah it's old school isn't it lollipop man's really survived or lollipop person lollipop lady whatever the lolly but that's nothing i don't think that will ever be replaced no it's the greatest invention of all time a robot can't do that job there's nuances yeah exactly nuances of what's needed for a lollipop do you like acknowledge what how does it work i say good morning and thank you yeah or how's it going mate you're all right he goes yeah all right it's hard when you're in motion you know i mean it's not there's not a stop and chat vibe because if you're stopping to chat the road users are fuming it's like insulate britain

before i know it i'm trying to get the country insulated i think um i think if if i cross i don't know if i've ever used a lollipop man because i haven't taken my children to school but it's one of the kind of things that happens and i think everything's going to be all right with the world yeah it's quite nice isn't it the that happens and I think everything's going to be all right with the world. Yeah, it's quite nice, isn't it? The lollipop man thing. Just like, ah, he's there for us and keeping us safe. Old school. Boomers love it.

Boomers love a lollipop man. If you remember the first lollipop man because you're that old, get in touch. My granddad used to be a milkman with a horse. Did he? He didn't use the horse for milk. Not horse milk. Oh, yeah.

Horse milk. Two emails and then Paris Fury. Okay, I've got one, you have one. This one's a good one about boomer parenting fails. You know we talk about old school parenting. Yeah. And I think we should open this up for boomer parenting fails. Send them in.

This one's a cracker from Lee. L-E-I-G-H, Lee. Hi, Rob and Josh. Listening to your episode about boomer parent behavior reminded me of all the stuff my dad did which he called character building the worst one was when i was around four years old shopping in walworths with my parents and aunt and uncle whilst waiting for my mum and aunt to pat the till my dad told me to hold on to the pillar in the entrance and to hold on tight because if i let go, then the building will fall down and kill everyone inside,

including my mum. Oh, my God. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was terrified of letting go. And when my mum finished paying and tried to get me to leave, I wouldn't budge and just stood there crying. My dad would sit outside with my uncle watching this unfold,

laughing hysterically, whilst my mum had to prise my hands off the pillar. Safe to say i've grown up to be pretty resilient despite not having kids of my own i wonder why i haven't had them i'm loving the podcast so thanks for all the laughs keep them coming from lee that is a brutal bit of boomerang word that is brutal that's the kind of thing that just will stick with you forever whenever you see a pillar i know luckily wars went under because at least she could love a breather then. Next time she goes

into the high street shop, thank God there's no wolves. My work here is done. Rob, would you like, do you know what we haven't done in a while? What would Rob Beckett do? Okay, here we go.

Do you know why I've been at that for a while? Because I feel like I'm unravelling. You're unravelling. I don't think I'm as in control as I have been recently. My toddler's gotten

into what we call zero logic mode and constantly has tantrums over the most ridiculous things. This morning, I was yelled at for ten minutes straight for taking too big a bite of her pretend sandwich. Oh, my God. Yeah. And she or I can't make another one

as we're apparently out of pretend bread. Earlier in the week, it took a couple of hours to calm her down after my wife was showing her pictures of her sixth birthday party when she was a child uh back in 1981 she had a complete meltdown because mummy hadn't invited her no amount of logic or explanation prevailed and it's very difficult that isn't it any advice well with a photo one i'd say you can't explain it to them because they can't get it i'd go that you wasn't there because you were here and show them a photo of something they really enjoyed with the with other people you were doing

that i that's what i do with the girls when they do that they're a bit older now so that's it's easier to explain but i do that with the fake bread thing you've just got to go really hard on imagination and just pretend to be driving a massive bread truck and i think that's the wrong way because you're but it's the easiest way out because you're just playing along with that game. So what I've been doing at the moment, I'm having a bit of a standoff with my five-year-old because she's got a nativity. So she's learning the song. So what they try and do is go, I need to sing it to you.

She's been singing it at me, but keeps going. I need to do it eight times because she knows that eventually she wants to wind me up. I keep doing it so that I go, no, that's enough. And she goes, oh, but no one will listen to me. So what I start doing is I go, oh, oh is it only eight why can't we do 10 oh and then her head's gone because she's lost control of that and she's like oh no no eight i'm like no no let's do 10 and then she does eight ago let's do one more she goes no i don't want to and then she runs off very good rob so i don't know if i'm damaging her, but that, that, that, you know, you're winning now. That's the main thing. We are winning now. Yeah. I've rolled in pillars up in Woolworths next.

Now, Rob. Yes. It's a big moment, isn't it? This is very exciting. It's a big special announcement time, guys. Yeah. I'm having a, no, I'm not. Now, so. Josh, what are you, what are you doing on the 31st of January, 2022? Well, do you know what, Rob? I have got it blocked out of my diary. Are you going to be in Hackney? I will be in Hackney.

I won't be... I will be 10 minutes from my house, actually. I'll be in Hackney as well. Yeah, well, we should meet up for a pint. Well, how about we do something else? Why are we dragging this out so long? So we've decided to dip our toe in the waters of live podcasting which we've heard is a uh a very uh

popular area but we'll see how it goes we're dipping our toe in with a one-off gig at hackney empire it is january the 31st 2021 and it'll be the live version of this show it'll be the live version of this show we'll have a guest live version of this show. We'll have a guest. We'll have various things. We've also got a little sneaky way for you to get tickets as listeners. Basically, if you want to get a ticket first, they go on sale Friday the 26th of November at 10am. However, if you sign up to our mailing list, you can get exclusive pre-sale access on Thursday the 25th at 10am. So what you need to do is sign up to the mailing list you can get exclusive pre-sale access on thursday the 25th at 10 a.m so what you need to do is sign up to the mailing list and then we will email you a code and a link to use in order to buy

the tickets a day early as a as a thank you it says in this email i've got to get exclusive access for pre-sale for listeners of the podcast who is coming to this that doesn't listen to the podcast i know anyway this is what we're doing and we've got this is that we're going to put the link to the mailing list on our instagrams and it's going to be in the bio of the parent in hell instagram page but if you want to if you want this is it i've got to read it out look josh and i think we're going to get get criticized for this parenting hell podcast dot male chimp sites.com that is unbelievable we all are mocking all of our mocking and we're the worst we're the worst i'm gonna repeat it just in case just in case i'm sure you've got it so it's parenting hell yes. All one word. Dots like a full stop. And then mail, as in M-A-I-L. Oh, yeah.

Not as in men. M-A-I-L. Chimp, as in a chimpanzee. And then sites. And that's plural. S-I-T-E-S dot com. It'll be in our bio on Instagram and on our Twitter. If you sign up to that, you'll get an email to let you know how to buy tickets on the day before general release.

So, yeah, sign up. Also, we'll be using that mailing list, I imagine, if we have any other things that could crop up, like merch or stuff like that. And Thursday the 25th at 10 a.m. We won't spam you. Well, I think you need to do this if you want to get a ticket because I imagine it will get sold out on the day before, potentially, if it goes. What I've heard is that they've had to bring in the computers that they use for the Glastonbury sales day.

That's all I'm saying. Really? Okay. Well, well. Good luck, guys. That's the news I've heard, yeah. I'm very excited about it as well, Josh. I can't wait. I'm really excited.

It's going to be a brilliant night. I might have a bloody beer. Well, yes, this is what we need to talk about. When do we start getting pissed? It's got to be... January the 27th? Yeah. Book it right then.

Well, thanks, guys. Please sign up and hopefully we'll see you at the gig. Now, it's very exciting, Rob. Yes. You were very excited about this booking, weren't you? Oh, I love Paris Fury. I love Tyson Fury. I had a thoroughly good time.

She's great, isn't she? She's brilliant. Her book is out. It's called Love and Fury, The Magic and Mayhem of My Life with Tyson. Why not buy that along with our two books? If you haven't bought our two books, et cetera, this is Paris Fury.

Paris Fury, everyone. Paris, you have been one of the most requested guests, I'd say. Also, congratulations on being a Sunday Times bestseller. Congratulations. We've got your book here. Thank you. Love and Fury. And people, you've been one of the most popular guests they've asked for because your life and the kids, the parenting you do is off the chain.

For the listeners that don't know, please, can you give us a rundown of how many kids you've got and their ages so we all know where you're at well we started out kind of normal we have now six and we did have two one the oldest is 12 the next one's 10 and then for a few years that was all there was. And then all of a sudden, we've got a 5-3-2 newborn. Wow. 5-3-2-1. We caught up pretty quick. Yeah. 5-3-2-newborn.

Can we go... Their name, they've got incredible names, Paris. Can we have their names? Do you share their names to be forward? Yes. Yeah. We've got Venezuela Linda, who's the oldest. Then we've got Prince John James, Prince Tyson Luke,

Valencia Amber, and Prince adonis amaziah but before i sound absolutely crazy let me confirm that the boys aren't actually all four prince yes on paper they are but the real thing is that when we had prince it was me i got a bit like i think i was a bit you know high on all the the the epidurals and the things and the gas and air and i i took this thing in my brain like we've got a call in prince like all along we had john james and then i decided we've got to call him prince he's got to be called prince so we did and then tyson evidently said afterwards well we can't have one and they've got to all be princes now so that turned into an ongoing argument until i agreed that yes we'll put it on the paper but obviously we do have prince tyson and adonis they don't get them yeah titles as such no

fair enough well because i remember seeing i'm a big boxing fan so i've sort of seen you in ifl interviews and in your documentaries of tyson for years before you started your own you know writing your books and appearing on telly, a sort of personality. And, yeah, I remember he used to have Venezuela on his shorts, but now he's got so many. Does he just not have their names on his shorts? Or is he, you know, he's going to run out of fights

to have all their names on his shorts. I think they're kind of stitched in different places. I remember last time he showed me like he had a jumper and they was all stitched around his sleeves. And I went, you've missed some of them. And he was like, no, look, turn it over. There's some there. So, yeah.

He is running out of space on the clothing to get the names on. Do you shorten those names? What's the shortening of Venezuela? Or do you go for the full name every time? No, I go for a full name. I don't really like cutting it short. I think whatever your name is, you should stick by it.

So, yeah, she gets Venezuela. the love of little girls, Valencia. And then the boys is Prince, Tyson, and Adonis. The only one who does get a nickname is little Tyson. It seemed completely surreal to call this tiny little baby Tyson, especially when you look at the dad. So for a long while, he got Tutty. But now we've got to stop that because I am presuming eventually he's going to grow into a big, big young man himself. And to be called Tutty seems a bit... I don't know. If he does become a boxer, Tutty Fury actually thinks more scary

because it seems he's gentle, but obviously he's going to be a big unit. Also, if he grows as big as his dad, no one's going to take the piss out of him for being called Tutty. No one's going to... No. No one's going to. No. No one's going to. You never know. They might do it behind his back. But no, I don't think they'll say it to his face.

What I found so intriguing, Paris, is like the setup you've got with the six kids. And you sort of are almost like a part-time single parent. The way boxing works is, for people that don't know, Tyson will be off for like sometimes three months at a time in Vegas. And you are doing it all on your own. So do you have help with that or do you do it on your own? Or how is that when it's just yourself?

No, I do it on my own. I kind of have this thing that I don't really like getting help. I don't like getting help out of the family. So like my mum will come sometimes and have a week with me or she'll watch the kids sometimes when I go to see Tyson fight and and that but i don't really like to have strangers watch my kids so i've always chose just to keep um to keep at home and keep with the children um so it's been um it's definitely hard when it goes away i wrote about this in my book because i think there's a lot of parents not just for boxers yeah any any people who go into big, high-level sports

like footballers, boxing, whatever, this takes people away from their families. Also, you've got people who's in the army, people who work on oil rigs. So they all have the same sort of situation that you, at time, are left as a single parent. And I think it's even harder when you do have that stability of, right, there's me and Tyson and the kids

and he'll do half the school run and he'll do the doctor's trips as well as I do and I'll do the kids and he'll do half the school run and he'll do the doctor's trips as well as i do and i'll do the dentist and we juggle it but then all of a sudden he's gone and when he's gone it's like oh my goodness this is so hard and so yeah it is it is and as the kids are getting older which i think most parents find there's so much more to do there's so many different like they've got their after school i don't want to hear that oh it gets hard and now no you've got oh you've got young kids yeah i know you can't get harder can it surely no it really does but you know what my parents just to say this and my um my old

aunties and grannies they say oh you don't know what it is when you can tuck your kids in bed at night time that's the easiest time and i keep looking at these little ones thinking oh but just please grow up a little bit like stop with the night feed stop running around stop with all the trauma but then my girl who's 12 has now got like her piano lessons her social friends or her party she wants to go to and then it's just a whole new ball game so imagine when they're teenagers it'd be like whoa so yeah we definitely um when Tyson's at home we split the load and then when he goes yeah it's definitely hard it's really he's very hands-on at home isn't he he does a lot so in a way that must be harder when he goes because that with footballers for example I think

because they've played all year all the time you're sort of used to being on your own but because he's at home for four months non-stop and then away for four months it's quite feast or famine isn't it it really is that's that's the difference that's what i find and i think also the fact that i don't have um child care i don't have like um nannies or as such i do have a funny story about the nanny situation actually oh yeah i kind of got like when i had the three in two and a half years obviously there was there was three of them three and two and a half years, obviously there was three of them. Three in two and a half years? I can't even do the maths.

No, I literally, I had baby Tyson and then, because we'd had difficulties to get Tyson, because obviously I had the first two real easy, then we had this big problems in between, which I've discussed about in the book, which was I lost one quite far on and then it was years of trying to get pregnant again so when I had Tyson I was like you know what I'm just gonna keep going well we did and we had Tyson

Valencia and Adonis within well a Tyson was two and a half and Adonis was born oh so I thought to myself before you know what it was really hard for a few years then all of a sudden I've got I was pregnant with Athena and I thought I might actually you know I might try this nanny scene, you know, I might actually, you know, give into it. So, well, everybody I know, like loads of people I know have them and they're like, you don't have childcare. I'm like, no, I don't have childcare. I just do it on my own. So I thought, you know what, I'll try. So I got this really high class sort of nanny who was very well experienced and I asked her to come for an interview. So she come to the house and I brought her in and she wasn't really aware of myself and my family and my situation

um and i then asked you she said how many children do you have i said five one on the way and she went oh i've never worked with that many before i said how many she said two so i said follow me in here i'd like to introduce you to the kids so i said here's venezuela here's prince here's tyson here's here's adonis here's valencia oh's Prince. Here's Tyson. Here's Adonis. Here's Valencia. Oh, just let me find Valencia, actually. You know, like, here they all are. She sent me an email afterwards.

I don't think I'm suited to your post. So that was just the kick in the teeth. So I've never gone on that. I'm not good again. Oh, no, Paris. Oh, that's so un-nannyable. Un-nannyable situation. That is un-nannyable. Unbelievable. Are they all in school now as well? No, Paris. Oh, that's... Unnanniable situation.

Unnanniable. Unbelievable. Are they all in school now as well? Because they're in primary school, I think some, but I remember you and Tyson have got slightly different views on them going to secondary school, because I think in the traveller culture, is there a certain age when they don't go to school and they stay at home more?

Is that correct? Yes. In the sort of gypsy and traveller community, normally after primary, they don't go into secondary school stay at home more is that correct yes in the sort of gypsy and traveling community normally uh after primary they don't go into secondary school and because at this sort of time they start getting homeschooled and they also get schooled in like the the ways of their mothers their fathers what we do as a as a family and also for the fact that they travel a lot so the school becomes obviously awkward to keep them in and out of in and out of. And that's for the greater travelling community as well.

They travel a lot and they can't keep the kids in the situation. So they do homeschooling. So all my kids, well, no, two's in nursery, sorry. One's a newborn, two's in nursery, two's in primary. And my oldest girl has just finished primary and gone into homeschooling. So that is what we sort of agreed. Are you doing that as well? Well, no, I do have a tutor to do that.

I'm not that clever. I tried. I tried that during lockdown. We all tried that during lockdown as parents. Come on, admit that was a big test. Oh, God, that came back after about a week. And you had two, Rob. You've got two kids.

I lasted two weeks. I lasted a full two weeks of being the greatest teacher ever. And then I was like, every teacher needs a raise and I can't do this no more. Yeah. Yeah. So she's in homeschooling and she's doing really good. We sort of agreed to disagree, me and Tyson.

Yeah, because it was very much the other way. He wanted them to go to secondary school, didn't he? I think that's what I got from, I think it was your ITV documentary. Yes. Well, what we've agreed is that Venezuela is going to be homeschooled. She's still going to take all her GCSEs. She's still going to follow through with her education. And when she's, I actually just found out now

that I've been going through the system that she can take her GCSEs sooner because it'll be a one-to-one schooling all the time. She'll be able to take them sooner and be able to start whatever she wants to do after that. Like myself, I went to college and I'd done a beauty course at 15 but because i wasn't in high school i got to start at 15 instead of the other girls who was all sort of starting at 17 yeah so maybe it'll be an advantage to her

life i'm not sure we'll find out but it depends what she wants to do exactly it's all different i just found it interesting that you had um both had different views on it and i was trying to find out who won the argument but it looks like it's a sort of a compromise at the moment i think that's what it was it was more of a compromise it was a give and take you know we've got we like to keep traditions in our culture but i think it's you've got to meet the 21st century yes yeah it's true i think it's a good way to look at it i should say as well your book paris the photos in your book i think it's some of the greatest collections of photos i've ever seen of on holidays and when you when you and book, I think it's some of the greatest collections of photos I've ever seen.

Of on holidays and when you and Tyson are young. It's because you've been together for so long. It's remarkable, isn't it? Like you, what was it? You were like 16, 17 when you met. And these photos are incredible. It just shows what a sort of loving family you've got. And it feels like the kids are the, as much as you two are both stars,

you're writing your books and Tyson's obviously one of the best fighters in the world. It's that the kids are the, as much as you two are both stars, you're writing your books and Tyson's obviously one of the best fighters in the world, it's that the kids are the stars of your family, really. They're the number one priority. When they're around, they definitely steal the limelight. But they are, yeah, our priority above anything. And I think most parents would be the same. I think there'd be something wrong if it wasn't. Nothing else matters but your children, above anything else.

What I mean is kids first and foremost come first you know like yes everybody's got their job everybody's got their business everybody's got their hobbies they like to do but if if it meant something bad towards your children you're going to give that all up so yes the kids come first you know that's why they've been everywhere with us if we travel abroad they come with us if. If we go, they've been in training camps. They've been all around Europe. When Venezuela and Prince was young, we literally travelled. I talked about that in the book.

We talked about how we just used to pack up and go as a family because it was never like, oh, well, there's the kids. They're doing their thing and we'll just do ours or Tyson will do his. We went as a unit and that's how we tried to keep that way. Well, I've seen you on your Instagram flying to America and it's just you with the kids was it didn't you fly with like six kids once five five has been my limit but i'm pretty sure at some point i'll fly with the six yeah it was challenging that's definitely challenging how do you take me through that pro like how do you even get i think it's like a military process.

You know, you've got to have the right amount of bags, the right amount of sweets given before you get on that plane. And yeah, it's definitely hard work. But what is it? It's 12 hours out of your life. You've got to do that big, long flight, and then we're there. But as I say, I don't have no one else to do this with. I choose not to do that.

And that's what I wanted to do. So when Tyson goes abroad, I meant, like, it's been a couple of times I flew out to America or back from America just myself with the children. But like most people say, I do get a lot of pat on the back for that flight. And I actually, I think I deserve it because I see some people stressing with one and I've been like, no, no, one's easy. One's no problem. Yeah, exactly. It's like a black belt.

It's like a black belt karate of parenting. Yeah. How do the people around you react when they see the five kids approach on the plane? I think it's pure dread. I remember we went once in first class. We all had our own beds. Now, normally we fly economy because it's easier.

For me to fly in the normal seat, it's so much easier because they're all rowed up next to me. So this time, Tyson, somebody had booked our flights and we was all in first class. There was Tyson with me as well. So we went in and there's like, they're following in and people's faces are like, oh my gosh, you're going to ruin our flight. I've paid for first class.

This has happened. But because they fly so often, to be honest, the kids are really good. They're really used to it. So I think the first half hour when they was, like, climbing into each other's beds, that was a bit embarrassing. Yeah. But once they settled down and they got the cartoons going again, no problem.

And do you think could Tyson do five on his own on a flight? No, I wouldn't trust Tyson five on his own in this house. I know I did the other day. I actually done my book tour and I had to do three days out of the home.

And if you've watched Cheaper by the Dozen, I was literally that mother. I kept ringing and saying, are you okay? Is everything all right? Are you all right? Are you sure everything's going good?

Because like a couple of days I did take the new baby with me. And then the last day, it was just Tyson with the six. And you know what? He owned it. He done it. But I think you're better for knowing that, obviously, I'm here always. Like I have always got the kids and I'm always juggling them. But Tyson does go and come.

So, like, I think as that parent, he does do it, obviously, but I've got to admit, I was worried. I was weary of the situation. Yeah, but it's hard, isn't it? Because like a baby, especially within a couple of months, you go, oh, they sleep at that time, the wake of that time. But if he's been away for a month, then that's all changed. So he's got to learn it all again.

It's hard. Also, as well, you're so matter-of-fact and confident. I find it really inspiring because, you know, it was quite traumatic. Your youngest was premature and you was in the sort of intensive care hospital for a little while. Is that right, Paris? It's about right, yeah. When I had Athena, she wasn't premature.

She was born on a regular date, but she had a racing heartbeat, something I've never experienced. Apparently it's very common in young children. And her heart was racing at like plus beats per minute which then was causing severe medical problems with her yeah um so we got blue lighted to alderley hospital and it was the first time i've ever experienced this that she was in intensive care for so long um it was two weeks like she was literally brand new born and it was such a strange situation.

So we had a really bad couple of weeks and it was very, well, at one point, she actually totally, her heart stopped. She stopped breathing, everything. She was dying on the table and they came in and they resusced her

and put her back on a ventilation tube. Oh, Paris. We went through this. Tyson was actually, everything seemed like it was going really well. And Tyson was gone jogging around the hospital. Yeah, yeah. And I called him and I said, come back now, something's wrong. And he'd come in.

And as he'd come in, they was resussing her. And I was stood screaming. And it was obviously severe trauma. Of course. And this was just weeks before he was due to train to fight for Wilder. It delayed his training camp slightly, didn't it, for the Wilder fight that was a couple of weeks ago? Yeah, well, normally Tyson goes out to America

for a minimum of like six weeks, sometimes eight weeks. And this time he never went out until the last three weeks because he spent the next three weeks training in Morecambe so that he could be near the baby. Yeah. You know, he wasn't at home. He was out of home, but he was still only in Morecambe just that he could be near the baby yeah you know he wasn't at home he was out of home but he was still only in Morecambe just in case anything went wrong I mean there's a there's

a real steeliness and you obviously seen it with you know Tyson in the ring and obviously what he went through his mental health and his comeback and yourself you you know as much as he went through that being married to someone and so close to that you you almost go through it yourself by proxy and there's a real sort of resilience between you. Is that you both have that inbuilt individually or do you find that together you're quite a team with that to go through those kind of things? I think we've got each other's back on that situation.

I think obviously Tyson's been there for me when I've needed him and obviously I've been there for him. And with Tyson's mental health problems, that was a long time I had his back, to be fair. It was a bit one-sided. But we went through it and everything that he went through has obviously made us stronger as a family and as a couple. But it was a very hard time for Tyson when he went through them problems.

And how was it with the kids when he was going through those problems? Were they aware what was going on? Or were you trying to kind of shield them from it? Well, at the time, we only had the two that was like five and six, I think it was, maybe six and eight or around them ages. So they were still very young. So I, as the mother, I shielded them from that. They wasn't aware of these situations.

They wasn't aware of dad's problems. And, And like when dad went out drinking at times and things, they was obviously in bed, sleep and had the bedtime story and was unaware. But as a partner, I was there the whole time. And I think, I think as the, as the partner of the person with mental health problems, you are there constantly. And that was one of the main reasons I actually wrote my book was because I really wanted to give people the light to show how I managed with it and how I coped with all of that situation. Because I think obviously Tyson had friends. He's got his really great family, his brothers and his dad and that. But I lived it.

I was the one living it day to day on a daily basis. And I saw everything. And I was the one seeing him after two and three days of binge drinking or crying for two and three days with depression. And we went through it. So it was a very hard time. And it was very, very upsetting for me to watch Tyson debilitate that badly. But he come through it on the other side and he, it made him a better person. I think he's so much better now than he ever has been with his mental health

because he's aware of the situation and it's made him, me and him aware of everything. When he got diagnosed, we was now more open to it and understanding of it where before me and Tyson was very naive to the situation, which I think is for the greater world. I think that's what we're all starting to be more aware of mental health issues and being more open and learning to talk about it and support people with it. Well, yeah, because I think that's kind of thing, especially a big alpha strong men. It's a strong, silent type. Keep it to yourself.

And how was it, especially like the traveller community with opening up about feelings? Was it welcoming or were people a bit suspicious about sort of, you know, talking about those kind of things? Or did you find it sort of, i think from an outsider point of view that i think he's done amazing work everywhere and especially within the traveler community because it's such both of you are such i don't know people to look up to about how to sort of you know deal with things in the sort of modern world i think i think you have got a point there i think we've got friends that's in the traveler community or the non-travelvel community both sides um but people who knew us really well um was very naive to this situation and

I do think it's helped I know that there's been many Tyson's had a lot of phone calls um and messages and thousands and thousands asking how do you deal with it and I'm I've been suffering for years in silence and the best thing to do is talk about it. And it was the same with me. I had literally thousands of messages asking me, how did you deal with it? How did you deal with Tyson? How did you deal with his depression?

And I can't say I've got the right answers for everybody, but I put it in words in the book so that people can see how I deal with it. Because I can't answer everyone individually. Yeah, of course. But yeah, it's amazing, the book. It's all in there. It's brilliant. Yeah. people can see how I deal with it because I can't answer everyone individually um yeah of course but yes it's amazing the book it's all in there brilliant yeah and I just think it I just think it gave that base to show people that you you can be strong and there was times literally when I didn't feel strong there was times when I wanted to run away there's times when I wanted to leave

and think I never signed on to be here and like I didn't do I didn't want to deal with the situation anymore because obviously for me, I was the woman at home and it was Tyson was out partying. He was, he was obviously drinking. There was abuse, substance abuses that I wasn't aware of. I found out in the papers.

So I had all that to deal with and to try and still put on a brave face. And it was really hard at times. And I kept thinking like, you know what? I just don't want to be here. But if I knew if I wasn't there, Tyson wouldn't be here today. So I stayed and obviously we got through it together. And that was our way of dealing with it.

And the situation now, are you watchful? Like, how does it work in that kind of situation? Because you say you've got through it. But what do you do to kind of stop that occurring again and stuff i think um i think with mental health it's something that's always there and i think that we recognize the symptoms more tyson recognizes his own self now when he feels a bit low and he knows that exercise works for him he knows that keeping a routine works for him so i obviously keep that push like last year when we went into lockdown it was the

covid lockdown and we've done the workout videos I had no wish or desire to do a workout video like there is not going to be a Paris Fury workout DVD releasing at Christmas I promise you but it was that I knew that the gyms was closing um you was possibly getting locked in we was possibly on the breach of like nobody was leaving their houses so obviously Tyson had to do his exercise and what I thought was you know what I'm gonna get up with you and he said do it with me do it with me so like we'll do it together it's better when you're together and I thought you know what I will get up and I am gonna do the exercise video with you because I know it'll keep you fit and well that was why I got up and done it you know I thought every morning I thought you know what a half an hour, an hour's workout ain't going to hurt me.

It'll give me a bit of a boost, but it'll definitely help you. And that was how it come to start. And that was my version of supporting him. That was, that's how we worked through it. And that's what you, I knew, I recognized the thought that he's getting upset. He's going to, he's going to be depressed about this. He's going to be down if he can't do his exercises. Boom, we had the answer. So, yeah., he's going to be depressed about this. He's going to be down if he can't do his exercises. Boom.

We had the answer. So. Yeah. And it helped a lot of people as well. People love, people love that in a lockdown. Your kid actually went viral. I'm not sure which one of the boys it was, but got viral. You had a little bit of a family bicker live on Instagram to about 100,000 people. Yeah. Just casual like he came in and they was, all of them wanted to do the exercise. So the day before, they all joined in.

Well, then the next day, more of them tried to join in. So, like, we had the four or five of us all in there. And Tyson, big Tyson, just blew and said, like, get out, get out, is it stopping it? Get out. So when he went out, obviously, he turned around and he gave us a load of abuse and he decided he was going to swear live on camera. So I, like, ushered out the room and, like,

no, you can't swear and you're on TV and you shouldn't be swearing. And yeah, it did. It did go viral. But I do have another little story that didn't get caught on camera. They missed. It didn't go viral. My boy who was five, he was four at the time, maybe three, came in with his trousers around his ankle, underpants as well,

and a roll of toilet roll. And he come walking in behind me, and I caught him in the side of the camera. I was like, ah! And I ran out. And he was like, wipe my bum, mum. It was like so normal to him, but obviously that one didn't go viral. They didn't catch that.

The viewers missed it. Oh, God, thank God for that. You don't need that kind of viral. Poor kid. But, yeah, he'd be forever known as the toilet roll kid. Looking at, like, the photos, as Rob says, are amazing. There's a great photo of you guys with the rock. And, like, even in that photo, I'm, like, counting up the kids.

And you're like, oh, there's another one in the corner I hadn't even seen. There's, like, how often when you're going out, you must be doing head counts every moment of the day, right? Yeah, I learned that trick from my mum. I was one of four. And my mum used to just count us, one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four. Well, now I do that. But it's starting to get hard because you get like to five and you think, one's missing. Where's that one?

Have I counted you already? A bit like Home Alone when you count the heads yeah yeah i'm a bit i'm a bit with the kids i like to know that they're quite close by so yeah it's easier that way are you stopping at six are you going to go for more what's the plan the honest truth is i would love to have more i always wanted a big family and I think I'm only 31 choke on that word but I I think like yeah I've got a good few years to think if I wanted more children and I could but when Athena was born and she had her health difficulties at the time which thank god everything's perfect now and yeah but it was such a scare and it was the first time in my life I ever literally wanted to cut myself in half and be with my kids at home who were all worried and kind of aware that something was wrong and then also be

at the hospital with Athena which was where we was me and Tyson never left there for two weeks but I did also want to see the kids and they came over to the hospital which then completely upset me so people in that situation I can't imagine what they're like when they go through like months and months or years and years of ongoing treatment with other children and children at home so my heart goes out to them because I was only there two weeks and it was so hard yeah of course yeah it's difficult because that's the thing when you've got lots of kids you can't be everywhere at once if they need you can you it's all right if one needs you for one thing but then if something else happens to another it's you feel like it's hard to spread yourself around isn't it yeah and I'm just thinking, obviously, like I said before,

there's so much going on with all their after-school clubs and their lessons and the things that they do, and their friends, what they want to go now to the park, because I don't know what's so exciting about the park for a 12-year-old. Yes. But I've got all that to come, and I just think, will there be enough of me and Tyson to juggle all that situation if I keep having more children so I'm not sure

I would love more and my granny had eight kids and it was never a problem to her and she said it was the best thing she ever done so I always look and think big families are beautiful but I just I don't know I'm on the fence now I love that you've got six kids and you're going I do quite fancy having a big family

and me and Rob are going I've got two and it feels like a big family. I'm on the fence about having a big family. Mate, you've got six kids. My friends all say this to me. They're like, what are you on about? Yeah, but I don't know. It doesn't seem crazy big. I don't know.

I just, I doesn't feel like, I think I'd probably feel overdone if there was like 20 of them in here. Then I'd feel all right. Yeah. Squish and a squeak. I don't know if six is just nothing. Yeah. And do the kids watch Tyson Farrar?

I know you go over to watch. Do they watch him in the boxing or do they watch the repeat? No, they watch him live. The little ones are all just asleep, but the bigger two have watched it for the last couple of years now. When they was little, I didn't, I kept them away from the boxing thought scene um yeah they

knew they'd had boxed and yeah they saw like some of the repeats but i didn't tell like my mom always used to watch them and she used to say should i get them up and i'd say no leave them sleep just let them see it the next day because i don't think it's something like when tyson put otto wallen and he had that really big cut yeah that was that was quite bloody, wasn't it? It was really horrific and the kids watched that and they were crying and it was upsetting for them. And I just, I think being in person, that's why I've never took the kids to the fight.

They've only been to one. And that was a big flop. That was terrible. One was playing on the phone, one kept asking for food and the toilet. So I said, never again. They're never coming again. Which fight was that? It was Tyson's comeback fight in Manchester. Oh sephirah that guy yes yeah yeah and the two tyson said it's only in manchester bring them bring them and i said no they shouldn't be at fights i don't believe it should be at fights not for their dads anyway different watching as a fan watching someone

else if they wanted to go which they haven't but if they did but to actually watch their parents fight i think it's a bit horrific. I mean, that one was a bit more safe because obviously it was a comeback fight. But even with Tyson beating Deontay Wilder, he's taken a few really horrific punches that he's come back from. But seeing that happen to your dad's not a nice thing to see when you're young, I imagine.

No, 100%. I've seen children at boxing rings. It's up to everybody's individual thought. But I've seen the kids of them around us at ringside, you know, when their dad's boxing. And it ain't nice. It's not nice to see their dad getting punched. Because I've seen some little kids there crying and things.

And I think this is where you shouldn't be. You shouldn't be here. Yeah, because it looks way worse ringside than it is on the telly. It looks brutal on the telly, but in the room, there's a different energy and feeling, isn't there? Of course. And you've also got the feeling of there's like always at the fight, there's me, he's Brother Shane, he's Brother Yui.

We always sit right next to each other. And like the dread on our faces would just upset anybody around us. You know, like we are just to pieces. And the nervous energy coming off of us would severely, I don't know, scar the children. So I just don't think they should be there. But they do watch their dad and they're totally aware that he's a boxer and everything that's going on. And they love it. They love to watch it now and support. But I still think there was always that thing. I wanted to keep that gap there.

Have any of them been to a boxing gym or done any boxing or anything? there. Have any of them been to a boxing gym or done any boxing or anything? My girl, the oldest girl used to say she was going to be the next Layla Ali and then she got to about 10, got punched in the face and said no I don't want to be a boxer. I think she learned, she was firing with like one of her baby cousins and she was like no I don't want to do this, no. So I said like, that's you out the question and then my boy Prince has no interest in boxing at all at the moment. I don't know if he ever will. Tyson has said he wouldn't push the kids into boxing. Neither would I.

Neither of us will push them into anything, really. Whatever they choose to do, that's what they're going to do. But Prince has no interest. He really likes wrestling. He loves the WE, which obviously Tyson went into, mostly for Prince, mostly just so he could show them it. Yeah, I saw that. He was in Saudi Arabia, wasn't he?

He was actually in a main event fighting in the WWE. It's unbelievable. And he literally did that for his son, really, because he mentioned that. So it was mainly because his son loves it so much, basically. That was it, yeah. My Prince was about eight at the time, and we was in America, and Tyson said he got asked to come down to the WE.

So we all went as a family. That was where we met The Rock. Lovely man, by the way. Yeah. And we went to the show and it was amazing. Like, I couldn't believe the fans. You think, like, the fans back here are crazy. The fans for that wrestling show is unbelievable.

So we went there and Prince just lit up and tyson said you know what i'm gonna go into this like we'll do this for a bit and like he loved it he went to all the training facilities and met all the wrestlers and that was really why tyson done that amazing but no no boxing then but that's the thing i don't know i think you could watch your partner fight i don't seeing your kid fight it's a different level i don't how would you would you go and watch or would you stay away well i've got this sort of like thing that i like to be there if i'm not a run away if the kids fall over i run straight to it like i've got friends that if the kids fall they run the opposite direction i go i can't deal with it and i'm like no i run straight into the

problem um so it's the same with tyson when tyson fights there's been very times, like I can count on one hand how many times I've missed these fights. Even though I don't like it, I hate being there. I hate the whole fight. It's nothing enjoyable. But I like to be there for him. So if the kids ever did box, I would definitely be there. But I know it would feel even worse. I can't imagine what it feels like.

Because I remember when his brother boxed, his little brother, Yui, boxed first and I went to see him and obviously I've known him from being like nine and I saw him fight and it was worse than watching my husband fight.

I got more upset because I was thinking like, oh, the baby, even though he's like 18 or 19 at the time. Oh, the baby. So I can't imagine what it's like

if my boys box. God, yeah. I don't think the girls will because like, my Venezuela instantly said she didn't want to do it anymore and then valencia she's like a fairy princess so unless athena shocks us all and she becomes the heavyweight champion of the world we'll find out well you know tyson was born wasn't it premature month prematurely and weighed a pound

and then he went to be six foot nine is that true paris was that folklore no he was born seven weeks uh seven weeks premature he was really premature he died three times um in the incubators um he was really ill yeah his mom had a real bad time when she had him but obviously they said i think that's where his dad's told the story before of where they said to him that's how he got the name tyson because he said he's a fighter he's a fighter he's gonna fight because the other boys all have normal names John Shane Huey they have like old-fashioned traditional names and then there's obviously Tyson who was named after Mike Tyson yeah because yeah it's unbelievable because you know there's such an inspiring story it's a lot of people when they have premature kids they sort of think oh god they're gonna be big and

strong whatever and you know you can't get much bigger and stronger than the you know heavyweight champion of the world at six foot nine you know it is an amazing it's amazing story and it the thing is a lot of people think that Tyson's name isn't even his real name they say oh his real name's Luke yeah but it isn't his his name all his life he was Tyson Luke Fury that was um his middle name was that and that's what my baby boy is called after his dad so people say i know that zillian white keeps emphasizing oh that's not his real name he's just changed it to make himself sound scary but it really isn't he was called that name because he was born premature yeah and when you first met didn't he tell you he was going to be the heavyweight champion of the

world it is i really looked at him like he had two heads and thought oh my goodness but i suppose that's what kept me here all this time i just knew he was different and he He did. I really looked at him like he had two heads and thought, oh, my goodness. But I suppose that's what kept me here all this time. I just knew he was different and he had this personality and belief in himself. You said that to Lou, didn't you, Rob, when you first met her? Yeah, I'm going to be the head of the world. And she said, no, you're not. She's still waiting. She's still waiting. I mean, because I don't know.

But, you know, obviously Tyson's just your husband and all this stuff he's got undone. But, you know, do you roll his eyes? You roll your husband and all this stuff he's gone and done but you know do you roll his eyes you roll your eyes a little bit when he's playing up and stuff like that because you know him so well

like with the singing at the end when he wins do you still enjoy that or do you find it awkward when he sings to you because it's an amazing moment when he's just at this massive fight

in the middle of Vegas and he turns to you and sings to you like do you still find that romantic or do you get a bit awkward with it Paris? No in the ring

when that has happened, I'm just so pleased and ecstatic that Tyson has actually won the fight that I think, you know what, do what you want to do.

You just go with it. He loves to sing up and down. I think it's his moment, you know, he's got his karaoke mic and it's like, yeah, I'm back again.

But it's, I think, you know what, you just do it and then afterwards I look and think, oh, cringe.

I think it's amazing. I love it. It's And then afterwards I look and think, oh, cringe. Yeah. I think it's amazing. I love it. It's the aftermath. It's the aftermath of things like that. Well, you went viral with the way you looked at Tyson when he was getting these belts and his acclaim. And it went viral of like a couple goals. But you were really doughy-eyed.

You loved him. You could tell how much you loved him in that moment, just watching him get all this acclaim and stuff like that, which is incredible. Do you know the truth behind that moment i'm gonna i'm gonna like ruin it now go on the truth is i was really nervous i was so nervous and i was biting my lip with nerves i'm like it looks so weird it looks it does look like you're really you've had a couple of wines and you're really into him, but actually you're just nervous. Yeah, I was really nervous.

And I was looking at him and one, I was so proud. That must have been true. But then the other thing I was looking at, he had a really bad bruise on the back of his head. And I was thinking, oh my goodness, that's really bad. We've got to get him out. I've got to get out of this ring, get it iced on it. And obviously people have not seen that side of it. They have seen this really really weird kind of raunchy looking fighting and i'm like no that's not what was happening

no okay that's the thing because you know he did win that fight we took a lot of like heavy blows to the head and sometimes the adrenaline keeps the fighter going but when they get back to the dressing room and the cameras are not there that's when you can really see the injuries and stuff yeah that's the truth. And obviously, like Tyson had two big black eyes. He had bruises all over his head. I mean, these fights are brutal and people don't see that. And yeah, the next day we was out

and that night we was out partying and the next day we went to the big pool party. But if you notice, he had his shades on most of that day. I mean, he looked pretty beat up. So it's not nice to see your loved one like that.

Of course. Imagine being a little boy. Yeah, what not nice to see your loved one like that. Of course. Imagine being a little boy. Yeah, what do they think when they see him like that? The baby kids don't really understand. And then the big ones, I presume, they just think, well, dad's won his fight and he's had a fight. I don't think children at this age

really understand any sort of danger that's going on with the sport. To be fair, though, he's never really been beaten up that much, like too bad. Like, you know, some fighters have a real, but he's had tough fights, but he's won every fight he's had. And he's, you know, he's never really been beaten up that much, like too bad. Like, you know, some fighters have a real, but he's had tough fights, but he's won every fight he's had.

So, and he's, you know, he's never really took a, you know, a beating. No one's ever beat him. No, no, he's never took a, no, exactly. I did just to say this, that it was easier to watch Tyson's earlier fights because he was fighting, obviously, opposition that he just went through like a,

like a, I don't know, a wrecking ball. Like he literally just, he never got hit. But then in the in the last fights obviously he's world level everybody that fights in world level so the fights are more well matched and it is hard to watch tyson fight on that level because like you say he's always worn and he's always come through it but now there's he's not coming through without a scratch put it that way yeah of course yeah the wild is unbelievable power but with now your life's changed so much really you know with and not only is there sort of more money there's sort of a claim um and you know you're a number you're a sunday times best-selling author yeah you know your husband's a world champion of the world you've got some money your life's

changing how how do you do you how do you deal with that with the kids and they're growing up with famous parents and successful parents? We are trying to keep them as grounded as possible. It's difficult. It is hard because the situation... Yeah, well, one's called Prince. It's quite hard to keep a Prince grounded. No, he's probably the best one out of the lot because he's a proper puppy dog. He's a real soft-back Prince. It's hard to keep him grounded, isn't it?

Yeah, it is hard. I think what we're finding at the minute is that we like we're trying to keep them some sort of normality on money like right you've got so much money you can go and buy this with it. Try and save your money. Earn your things. You need to buy a car. You need to

buy things because obviously when they turn like 17, 18 I don't want them flying up and down in dad's lamborghinis and ferraris and things these kids are going to buy their own cars they're going to learn how to work and earn their money and that's what i want that's what i'm trying my best to do and me and tyson and then you've also got the fact that i don't want them to be you know like oh we're celebrities or obviously everywhere they go people know them so it's hard to balance this and we're only learning. The other thing that's difficult is just to live a normal life. For us to live in Moreham, which is where we're at at the minute,

and that's easy because everybody's known us for years here. So we're not nothing special. We're not like, oh, wow, here's Tyson and Paris. Here's the kids. Here's, oh, my goodness. It's just normal. And, yeah, people say hello and they get a picture but that's it it's not like a big deal um but when we go to towns cities zoos fairgrounds

anything there is no normal life yeah there is no there's no second check you're definitely tyson and paris fury with six people no it's not like oh is it them you know i mean it's if i'm on my own and I put like a hat on and I walk through, nobody really notices. But then they see the six kids following behind and it's like, hold on a minute. They've got a big family and then they look and they know it's me.

But Tyson can't hide at all. Like there is no, like other people who's like mega famous footballers, movie stars and things, I've been told like, oh, they just put a hat on and they can blend in. You can kind of like snoop through, but Tyson cannot. Because obviously from being 16, he've been told, like, oh, they just put a hat on and they can blend in. You can kind of, like, snoop through. But Tyson cannot because, obviously, from being 16,

he's been a giant and people notice him straight away. So that's been a bit hard to deal with, to be honest, with the kids and trying to find a bit of a way to just live a normal life. But I'm trying. We are managing it. It's so far, everyone who meets the kids, they always say they're really polite and well-mannered.

And I'm hoping that maintains until they're older. And do you think they'll want to stay in Morecambe? Do you think you'll stay in Morecambe for the foreseeable? I think so. I mean, obviously we could go anywhere in the world, but I can't see us leaving very far, to be fair. We like it here. We had no intentions of basing here, to be honest.

We came here when we first got married 13 years ago. And it was always meant to be for a short stint of time and then we're still here now 13 years later so i don't think we're going anywhere and it is nice it's quiet it's reserved it's just a normal little town there's not that kind of like fast pace that you get in like big cities like london manchester there's just like it's quite out the way it's in the sticks to be fair yeah i think that's why when it is so crazy and busy and you're in and out of vegas and all around the world it's nice to have that sort of solid base and it's good for the kids to have someone they go to where it's normal you know and that's just where they grow up and they know everyone and stuff like that and what about your kids you know venezuela you said is doing her gcses and home tutoring would you like her to go to university or would you like her to do her own business,

her own sort of thing, or is it just whatever she's happy doing you're going to support? That's exactly what it is. Whatever she's happy to do, whatever she wishes to do with her future, that's what I'm going to encourage. I want her to do well. I want her to study and I want her to work hard for things. But it's down to her what she wants to do. If she did choose that path, I think Tyson would be over the moon.

He wants the kids to take that kind of academic sort of path and see where they go, but I'm not sure. I don't know where it'll lead us to. I'm not sure what Venezuela will want to do and the rest of them. It's up to them, isn't it? I have a strong belief in that. I think I'm encouraging the kids to do well, but to do well in what they want to do.

And do you think if Venezuela or the other kids got you know, got to secondary school age and said, mum, I want to go to school with the other kids, would you accommodate that? Would you, you know, encourage the home tutoring? Yeah, well, no, we've done this. We went through this process with Venezuela. She was definitely set that she didn't want to go. She wanted to follow like what she wanted to do and she wanted the home tutoring um obviously a lot of her friends has done the same of her age like her most half of her class basically went into homeschooling oh is there a big traveler community around in that area then where you are yes yeah especially in their primary school that they went to um and then as for the my boy prince Tyson's trying his best to like convince him to

go to high school you should go to high school he's like no I'm not doing it I'm getting a tutor and I'm gonna do this I mean I can't remember what he told me the other day he wanted to be I mean at one point he wanted to be a crystal mage champion that was when he was about to yeah but obviously now he said he wants to do the wrestling. I don't know if he'll follow it through, but he said if he does his homeschool and he goes to a wrestling camp and things, that's what he wants to do at the minute.

But what am I saying? They're 10 and 12. What does anybody want to do at 10 and 12? Are they physically big? Like, is Tyson's, do you say six foot nine? Has that been passed on? They're all tall. All the children are

tall oh except for tyson actually baby tyson's the only one who's a bit more normal for his height yeah he's he's probably like the tallest in the class but not obscenely tall yeah the other ones have all been the big ones and the little ones below them are all like quite obscenely tall but they're not big made like tyson was tyson was like, there's a photo of Tyson when he's about 14, and Tyson's a big unit, like he was a big lump of a man. And he was only a kid. He was 14. When I met him at 16, he looked 25.

He had a full beard. He had like giant, he was six foot six. And I said in the book, I told the story, I said that I met him. And the first time I ever met him, I thought, why are you talking to me? You're way too old to talk to me. I'm 15. So he definitely, he grew bigger. So I don't know if our kids are going to be really as big as him,

but they're definitely big for their age. The photo in the book of him, there's one with him, with his Lacoste beanie hat on, where he looks like he's sort of like in a weird indie band with a granddad shirt. And then there's one of them, who looks like some sort of Italian sex god with his long, dark hair and a black shirt. It's unbelievable. Yeah, that was when I really fancied him.

He lost that hair. As soon as I married him, I caused him to go bald. It was just terrible. But yeah, when we first met him, that little photo in the book where he's wearing that like completely odd getup, that was the first time I ever met him. So I don't know what I saw. I mean, yeah mean yeah and you look look at the size of his hand it's as big as your head it's unbelievable you also as well you look very pretty you're in a very nice going out outfit you've got your hair done you've got nice watch and a necklace you

should not be getting out going off with that man i don't know what happened he's chatting he's got a lot of chat tyson and then he turned into that bloke yeah he must's got a lot of chat Tyson and then he turned into that bloke he must have had a lot of chat he's wearing a football shirt under his shirt like it looks like he was styling back then what happened there was he actually had a fight he told me

I couldn't understand but obviously most of the people I'd ever met boys and things I never had a boyfriend before I went out with Tyson but the boys that I had met was always very well groomed and sort of like prim and proper. Well, that was the ones that I'd always met. And then Tyson came along, obviously a big giant,

dressed kind of really rough, like this really odd getup. He had this, like you say, that sports shirt underneath a granddad's shirt with an odd hat. And he had his little brother, nine-year-old brother's waistcoat on, like didn't fit him at all. And obviously when I first looked, I thought like, what is going on? But obviously I must've been intrigued by him. So he came, but he explained to me, I've come at the last second.

He said to this birthday, which was my birthday. That's how he came. And he said, I come at the last minute, but I've got to fight in a couple of weeks. I said, what do you mean by fight? And he said, like, I'm a boxer and i've got a fight so he had on his brother's little coat to keep him warm and a beanie hat and a scarf all on the process to box i presume so there was a kind of reason why he looked so scruffy it was in camp let's just say that it was

in camp in camp because you just talk really brilliantly about um tyson's mental health problems but one of the other things you write brilliantly about in the book is uh baby loss and losing a baby did you find that difficult to kind of go through again during the books you've spoken really brilliantly about it as well i think that was the hardest thing for me to write about in the book and that was the hardest thing i found to talk about uh the reason i did talk about it is because I think people look at me and Tyson and we've got six children and it looks like we've never had a problem. It looks like you've never had children problems, which the truth is that we was complete opposite. We had the first two kids really easy. And then after that, we had child loss and we've had difficulties to fall pregnant

again, which I talked about all of us in the book because I think I find that with a lot of women they're very ashamed of this subject and they're very quiet about it and it feels it's extremely personal and that's probably never going to go away it's an extremely personal conversation um and I played with the idea whether to put it in the book or not but I do think it helps to know that other people have been through the situation. And I think it's great to read or to see or to know that I've been there for you. You're not the only person who's living this situation. And to look at the fact that, you know what, I went through all that hard time.

And now, look, I had the kids straight after and I've got four. And I'm moaning about it. So it can come the complete opposite you can go from like all these troubles and all these worries that I went through for like five years between Prince and baby Tyson um thinking I would maybe never have another child again and obviously always knowing I wanted a big family yeah and then to the opposite way that I've now got four young babies and I've got my other two older kids and things completely changed. The situation changed. And I just think it's good and reassuring for other people to read stories of other people's lives and to know that things ain't always perfect.

And you're not the only one out there going through this and you're not the only person who's had a loss or had a problem or difficulties to conceive. It happens to a lot of women. It's brilliant. It's so inspiring. It happens to a lot of women. It's brilliant. It's so inspiring. It's such a brilliant book and well done for being so honest in it because I think it's going to help a lot of people, especially with the baby loss stuff. And also on top of that, you know,

being married to someone going through those mental health problems because a lot of the time the attention's on the person but not the person who's having to deal with the day-to-day. And I think it's quite important because sometimes those people don't really get heard and it's really good that they can in this book and connect with it. Do you know what I realised when I wrote my book? When I wrote it, I realised I've been through a lot of crap.

An awful lot of crap. And I never realised it. I look at my life day-to-day now and I think like, ah, it's all rosy and yeah, you get little ups and downs, but yeah, everything's good. But then I read it all back and I was like, wow, for me to be 31, I've been through so much. Like I look and I think like we have done a lot of stuff and we have like all that stuff crammed in. And it only, when I actually sat down and read

each, each chapter back to myself, I was like, oh my goodness. And there was one, there was a couple of chapters. It was, it was during the depression when I talked about Tyson's depression and I, I was prying my eyes out on the pages like literally i thought how am i going to read this like a lady come in one of my friends and she was like what's wrong what are you crying for i'm just reading my book i'm just reading about my life yeah it was really bad yeah you must have read it and gone that poor woman oh it's me fuck yeah it really was and i kept thinking like but i know it gets better i know this gets good yeah all right brilliant yeah so i did i've been through an awful lot of things an awful lot i love the fact that the uh the bit where there's six kids and you're looking after

them without a nanny is the rosy bit where there's little ups and downs whereas me and rob are here complaining about having two kids and how difficult it is i You're like, oh, it's all easy now. It's all a walk in the park. Yeah, yeah. Just look at me on the day-to-day basis. Make you feel better when your kids are really going to town. And there's obviously going to be a film made about you and Tyson and the journey you've both been on together

and all the kids. Who do you want to play you in the film, Paris? Have you got someone that would be the perfect person or are you relaxed about it? No, I want someone to be way hotter than me so like margot robbie like margot why not like if i'm going for it someone even better like with a perfect figure and beautiful face you just go for it yeah she can have my place okay we'll put we'll put the call in paris and see if she can do it um paris and one last question before you let go. Thank you so much. We know how busy you are with a book and the kids and stuff like that.

The last question is, we always ask every guest, is there one thing that your partner does parenting-wise that annoys you a little bit that you don't bring up because it'll cause an argument? Is there something Tyson does that gets on your wick a bit with the kids? No, yeah, I bring it up all the time. He will like, he'll say to me, oh, I'll watch them. You go get a bath.

I'll chill out with them here. I'll take them to the shop. shop and at that shop he buys them pop and sweets and lollipops and crisps and coca-cola and then he comes back and goes all right yeah here you go it's bedtime in it like no no no you've just put them on a severe sugar rush and you've ruined it so we're bouncing till 12 o'clock tonight yeah that's one of my pet peeves yeah okay fair enough brilliant and paris thank you so much. Thanks so much, Paris. Thank you. That's brilliant.

Make sure you get the book. Good luck with it. Keep it in the charts. Paris Fury, Love and Fury, the magic and mayhem of life with Tyson. The money's worth the photos alone, especially that one in the Lacoste hat. It's amazing.

Yeah. Don't get the audio book. The Lacoste hat's worth it for the book itself. Cheers, Paris. Thank you. Cheers, mate. Thanks. Bye now. Thank you. Cheers, mate. Thank you.

Bye now. Paris Fury. I love that, Josh. That was brilliant. She's great, isn't she? You feel bad about complaining about your dog now, Rob? God, I forgot about my dog for a bit then. That was nice. No, I love the dog.

Dog's all right. He's fine. She's so amazing. Unbelievable. I mean, I've sort of been aware of paris because i'm a bit of a boxing nerd and she's yeah that's come across yeah she's a bit of a cult figure and now she's sort of like mainstream fame but everyone sort of knew about her and loved her on the in the boxing circuit because she used to give great interviews about tyson and the family

and stuff like that but she's brilliant and i think that's nice for her as well to write the book and realize that she's been through a lot because i think sometimes you don't until you put it down on paper and then you can sort of give yourself a pat on the back and go bloody hell look how good stuff is and how bad it has been at points you know 31 31 you know when people go oh you've written a book at 31 why imagine how big this book would be if she was 60. Do you know how little I'd done at the age of 31? What year was that? 2014. Oh, nothing.

The most exciting thing I'd done is a couple of episodes of 8 Out of 10 Cats. Do you know what I mean? It's like, fucking hell. No, she's lived a life. What a story. That was amazing as well. Her poor newborn baby. Imagine that.

You know, seeing that. Oh, anyway, it's terrible. But yeah, she's brilliant. And by the book, it's really interesting. The photos are absolutely outrageous. I love that one of Tyson. But yeah, it was really an interesting interview. She's a great talker, isn't she?

The kids, how confident and articulate and talented are those kids going to be? Do you know what I mean? Oh, mate. And do you know what? After Sophie Ellis-Bexter and Paris Fury, we're not accepting guests with less than four kids. Yeah. It's just unacceptable. Put up or shut up.

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