Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S04 EP16: Joe Wicks

Episode Date: March 18, 2022

S04 EP16: Joe WicksJoining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the fitness coach, TV presenter, social media personality and author - Joe Wicks MBE. Joe's new book 'Feel Good Food' is out now! And yes you heard it right, we are very excited to announce even more Parenting Hell Live shows!! On top two the already announced Manchester Arena (Friday 14th April 2023) and London 02 (Friday 21st April 2023) - tickets are now on general sale but going fast!! We're also doing the following shows;19th April 2023 - Nottingham20th April 2023 - Cardiff 23rd April 20223 - Wembley To sign up to the mailing list if you haven't already just cut and paste this into your browser:parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com Thanks - Rob and Josh xxxIf you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping or hopefully how they're not coping and we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips advice and of, tales of parenting woe. Because, let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Margot, can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett.

And can you say Josh Whittakin? Josh Whittakin Josh Whittakin good girl hi Rob and Josh this is my two year old daughter Margot having a go at the intro very good go I thought I started listening to the podcast last summer when I was training for the London Marathon

and it kept me entertained on long runs as well as all the parenting stories I also enjoy the Plymouth Argyle updates as despite being from Stockport my husband is a Plymouth fan. Wow. Oh, open brackets, family team, close brackets. As in ensuring our girls support them too. Don't do that to the mate.

No, well, Stockport or Plymouth, it's not great options, are they? No, he's chosen the bigger club there, unbelievably. Glory hunter in many ways. God. Yeah, how are you bigger than Stockport? What do you mean? It's a big city. Plymouth?

Plymouth's a big city. A quarter of a million people, Rob. I've just been confirmed they do have offices there. People, and Truro's a city as well, apparently. Let's not get into it again. No?

Is Truro not a city? Truro's a city. It's the only city in Cornwall. Where's Plymouth? Isn't that Cornwall? Oh, for crying out loud. For God's sake. No, it's Devon.

It's Devon, sorry. Yeah, it's Devon. It's Devon. But it is on the Cornish border. It's literally over the water from Cornwall. That's why the team's got such potential, Rob. Were they to get into the Premier League, they'd have the whole of Devon and Cornwall to pick from.

We'd have 35,000 fans every week. Oh, Truro's pretty. Absolutely no fucking way on earth is a city, but fair enough. Good luck to you. It's got a cathedral, which is absolute. That is such a shit way in of being a city in it when if you go is it a city and they go we've got a cathedral fuck off if that's your

only way in it's not good enough what do you count as having a city what what do you what do you demand uh a lush a lush you get a lush in a town rob you'll be doing a talk show in a like a little market town and you go what is that smell and it's a lush no no i tell you you know you're in a city when you look at a and you turn around and you see another one that's what you know you're gonna see no look hands up i'm sorry churro it seems that you are a city do you know there's a place in devon rob called westwood ho westwoodwood Ho? Google that. HO at the end. Westwood Ho. Yeah. What do you notice about that name? It's the

only place name in the UK with an exclamation mark at the end of it. Oh my god, it has. Yeah, there you go. What is that? Oh, Biddeford. I've done a gig there in a school sports hall. Do you know what? All these places I remember from local TV and now I'm on a podcast where people are just saying the words and that's enough.

What a life. I mean, that is unacceptable from Michael. He's just texted us, but there we go. What, has Michael just texted us? He just said, are you trying to make this as dull as, and then a previous guest, I imagine Michael wasn't aware of that. Right, sorry. Josh, fuck all this boring shit.

Talk us through your day on Sunday after you woke up hungover for Rose's birthday. Wow, Rob. What happened? I offered you salvation. I offered you a way to get in the good books. You've been out drinking all night. I to get in the good books. You've been out drinking all night. I'm back in the good books. Yes.

Do you know, do you want to hear some bad news, Rob? Yeah. I'm in the bad books of someone else. Whose? I've managed to be in two dog houses at once, Rob. Whose dog house are you in? I'd like to make a correction that my agent, who I said overstated about me doing bedtime stories and I wasn't that fond of doing it.

Yeah. She said, how dare you? You spent three years asking me for that gig and now you're trading on laughs. I'd say if I asked you for three years, you were very good at it. Get into me in a year. Let's not get involved in this, Rob. Don't get involved.

I'm just saying. You can be the wrong house. I think she's the best agent in the world and I can't believe that she did the job of getting me that. So thank her for it. Yeah. I was delighted when she told me. Wait, wait, wait.

Doesn't she also look after Romesh Ranganathan? Yeah. Who did it about two years ago? Well, exactly, Rob. But he's a big idea, isn't he? Well, I'm just saying. Everyone has their favourites. If we all judge our careers next to Romesh Ranganathan,

then we're all failures. Let's be honest. All I'm saying is, though, she would have taken the phone call from the producers of that segment and then gave it to Romesh before you, even though you wanted it for three years. Well, I don't think they phone up and go, have you got anyone?

They phone up and they go, would Romesh do this? And she goes... No, but Josh would. Yeah. Well, no, she said yes, he would do it. And also, could Josh do it? Little bit of trivia. She's never received a phone call asking if Romesh would do something.

I had to say no. That's one of the things. I swear he ain't got an house. He just gets driven between TV sets. Right, anyway, so you're in a doghouse with your agent because you said that you were underwhelmed about getting the gig. But genuinely, I've been looking forward to talking about it on the podcast for so long.

And to do it on a hangover was just a depressing day. OK, so you're in a doghouse there. So talk me through, I want to know what happened on Sunday. After the record of this podcast, which was about 10.30, 11.30am, what happened to the rest of the day? We took our daughter to see her three friends in the afternoon. So you didn't take up my offer of salvation? Well, Rose didn't want that offer of salvation.

Did you offer it to her? No. Well, how do you know she didn't want it? I don't remember, Rob. She wanted to see her friends who were the parents of the other children as well. So it wouldn't have worked. It wouldn't have worked. It would have worked.

You take the kids and then she sees the friends in a pub. What, so she goes to see the friends with the three other kids that are friends with my daughter. And I don't... No, you have all the kids. What, all eight of them? Yeah. What, my daddy, that does not work work i'm not running a crash well yeah but then i'm just saying that was your route out but you didn't you went to so how how did it get resolved do you know what it's funny to be honest with you rose is better

her feelings towards me are better than my own feelings towards myself if you know what i mean right on that situation yeah i i find on a hang, my own self-judgment is far harsher than other people's. It's really difficult to listen to. Yeah. You really get upset with yourself. It's difficult to live. I do. It's so, like, oh, I don't...

I hate it, though. I don't think you're putting it on. You're feeling it. No, I'm not putting it on. I tell you, I'm not putting it on. But if you feel that bad... I'll be honest with you. On Tuesday's episode, I wasn't going,

I'll play this up for comic value. That was never happening. Oh, no, we're aware you didn't do that. No, but what I'm saying is you're really in the mud. And I sort of think that you can't... I just wouldn't drink if it made me feel that bad. Was she all right with you in the end, Rose? Yeah, totally, yeah.

Can you function in the day, the next day? Yeah, totally, yeah. It's all fine. Can you function in the day, the next day? Yeah, I can function in the day, definitely. So you was all right? You were doing your fair share of parenting and stuff? Yeah, I was doing more than my fair share. All right. Yeah, I genuinely, because obviously in that situation,

there's no way you can go, I'm sorry, I can't do that, I'm hungover. That is unacceptable behaviour. I've had to say that before with a nappy and gone, look, I will do whatever needs to be done with the kids today, but if I change a nappy, I will be sick on our children. On both of them.

That is bad as well, because you're only changing one nappy. The ones around the nans. That's a needless threat, Rob. I've been sick on the baby, drive around the nans, salt her out, and then go back to bed. I tell you what, imagine if you tuned in just because you wanted to hear joe wicks and you get us discussing this for 12 minutes it's an odd it's an odd intro to joe wicks fans what about your um well hangover food what did you eat on that day we should say

actually that this is in reference to tuesdays that we actually haven't said we presume everyone listens to these in sequence yeah this is in reference to tuesday's episode where i was quite hungover after rose's birthday yeah uh what did i eat that day for the joe wicks fans or just for me as well what is your go-to hangover because we know you have a horrendous vegetable lasagna for christmas day dinner i just wondered what well we went for a roast so that's what i had for lunch right not happy with that no no that's fine just saying oh yeah i didn't have this weird weird little garlic bread you have or something. No, no. It was purely straight down the line roast.

I tell you what happened, Rob. I wanted a coffee. Yeah. I went to this pub and I said, do you do coffee? That we were in having the roast. And he said, look, we don't sell coffee, but I've got my own little espresso machine that I make my own coffee for. Oh. Yeah. So I'll let you have one. Gives me the coffee. He says, don't tell anyone. sell coffee but i've got my own little espresso machine that i make my own coffee for oh yeah so i'll let you have one gives me the coffee he says don't tell anyone fine go back to the table rose

says oh could i have a sip of your coffee she finishes my coffee i've got no coffee right i haven't even had any coffee and then i can't even go back because i've got this secret coffee that i wasn't meant to have so i can't go back and say it's like the one shot where i can't even go back because I've got this secret coffee that I wasn't meant to have. So I can't go back and say, it's like the one shot where I can't order a second coffee in the UK. And you can't say no to Rose. It was not a position to go, this is my coffee.

You should have gone, oh yeah, I got less sleep than you last night. Let me have that coffee. I deserve this coffee. I've done a podcast this morning. So she was all good with you. It wasn't, it was all fine, was it? It wasn't, Rose very understanding then.

Yeah, I'd say so. I can tell there's something there. No, there's no, look, I wouldn't say all good, but certainly better than I would have been with her in the same situation. Right, okay. Sounds like a very politician answer that. Exactly.

Yeah, exactly. We had a curry in the evening. Okay. In silence? You're desperate to get onto Joe Wicks, aren't you? Politician answer that. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. We had a curry in the evening. Okay. In silence? You're desperate to get into Joe Wicks, aren't you? But I've got time. It's a great interview,

and I feel we're keeping the listeners from it. The readers. The readers. Okay. It's blacking out. Oh, dear. Right. We're in front of Crufts. We had a curry in front of Crufts.

Oh, lovely. What a way to spend her birthday. Four hours sleep. Husband on the piss in the kitchen. Crust and a curry. It's a terrible life she leads. Still feeling the effects. Right, okay.

We should get on to the podcast, shouldn't we, Josh? Yeah, I think we should. I mean, I'd love to talk more to you about this, but I think we should move on to Joe Wicks. So, Rob, one man defines lockdown far more than you or I did, Rob. Yes, it's got to be the mighty... It's got to be.

Joe Wicks. P.E. with Joe Wicks. Oh, sorry, I thought it was going to be Captain Tom. No, that would be a scoop. Right, Joe Wicks. P.E. with Joe Wicks, the saviour of lockdown. Roll VT. Is that what they say? Yeah, it is, yeah. On Newsround with Joe Wicks, the saviour of lockdown. Roll VT. Is that what they say?

Yeah, it is, yeah. On Newsround in the 80s, yeah. Good afternoon, Joe Wicks. That was the weirdest intro ever. Yeah, really weird. It's like you've been bullied into it, Joe. Yeah, hello, that's what I meant, is hello. I started saying good morning and then I thought it's the afternoon

and then I thought, well, this isn't live. So then I panicked even more hello Joe how are you I'm good well I'm good boys listen yes Joe we're off to a good start but I wanted to say firstly congratulations on the success of this podcast because I look in the charts quite a bit and you boys are always up there top of the charts so well done and all the effort you put into it because it's uh it's doing really well mate oh you're such a after the first 30 seconds you're going how is this top of the charts this is an absolute shamble it's an inspiring story that could be this shambolic and high in the charts but joe that really just suits into your nature you've even motivated me of a compliment there oh well look i like i like seeing people succeed i love champion

people i love a success story i'm always always sharing, you know, people's transformations or their mental health journey. And as a parent too, I'm always learning. If I learn something valuable that really helps me as a parent and helps me be, you know, whether it's more patient with the kids, I like sharing. I share books that I read. I share parenting books.

And I just think it's good to share things that help other people with their families and their children as well. Do you read a lot of parenting books? I've started one, which I didn't finish, but the only one that's truly stuck with me that really had an impact on me was a book that was sent to me by um by by my agent it's called um there's no such thing as naughty right and i i like the title and i started reading it and i was just hooked the way it was written it was a really really well written book about how you know the child's brain like how it's developed and how they're not quite quite quite rational i don't know if you read that book but no very very interesting yeah very good

book and it just made me think differently it made me allow allowed me to you know rather than react to stressful situations i started to respond differently and it really helped me understand like my kids you know my kids mind and their brain when they have these meltdowns and have these kind of reactions to things but yeah it's the only book i've read from start to finish which i've shared a lot and i i actually loved it because i shared it and it went to number one on amazon and she was so happy the author she's um kate silverton her name isn't yeah like like again i just think if it helped me as a parent it could help another you know see my comic brain just goes to well what if they shit on your bed and look you'd square in the eye

as they're doing it i would class that as naughty it's very hard to come back from that do you know what i mean yeah it's like okay that's great kate um you've written your book however on all fours doing his shit on the pillow staring his eyes going sleep well tonight bitch i would go i'm gonna kids being naughty rob rob yeah you've lost control of your kids mate that wasn't that completely accurate yeah that's why i describe as i describe that as absolutely feral but no look like kids are kids are very annoying but they're not trying to be naughty they're trying to they can't communicate so basically they're trying to express themselves and that obviously comes out in screaming and so basically she talks about the brain being like um the young infant brain like a

baboon like it reacts really like it's just it's like impulse it doesn't understand it's not rational it's not thinking then they've got the little wise out and the child just doesn't have that that moment of like oh this this is irrational i'm not thinking straight so it's like as an adult we can react as a baboon or we can react as an owl you know i mean and be a bit wise and be a bit calmer but look i ain't perfect man i still have days where i just drive you know they drive me mad and they're fighting and i just i have to stick my headphones on noise cancellation and walk out of the room sometimes. Well, no, breathing.

I know what you mean though, because they are, you know, like I said, they're not actually trying to be naughty, but you just have to, it's hard when you're so het up to process that in the moment. But what's your set up with kids, Joe, for the listeners? How many kids you got? Can I just ask one supplementary question to both of you? Yes, go on, Josh. I'd like you to tell me uh what

percentage of your reactions do you think are baboon and which percentage are ow rob i'll start with you oh yeah i'd say from the age of zero to 33 full 100 baboon i'd say the hours crept in in the last couple of years through bits of therapy and mindfulness. But, you know, I have my days. But, you know, I'd say when I went up here, but the first 33 to 34 years, I'd say pure baboon. What about you, Joe? I'll be honest with you. Because of my childhood and my upbringing, the way my parents, you know,

parented me and how I was spoken to as a kid. My default reaction is very impatient, intolerant. It's snappy. It's shouting. It was, you know, a lot of shouting as a kid for me and but so my default is that and in my head i'm always shouting but i've learned to kind of you know internalize that a little bit like you said take a breath and just not not react um i reckon i reckon 80 a bit like my diet 80 i'm good bang on eating healthy and i'm you know being really patient with the kids and being reacting well and then 20 you know i lose

it a little bit. I shout, you know, and I feel terrible afterwards, but it's human nature. Kids push our buttons, man. And I just don't think any parents should feel bad about that. But what we can do and what I've learned is that we can just, we can react differently. You can have that moment to pause and kind of think, you know,

are they trying to annoy me or are they just trying to explain something to me and trying to get my attention because I've been staring at my phone for two hours? You know what I mean? So I've started to think, I've started to think and put myself in their shoes a little bit more yeah yeah yeah definitely i think and as well because i i know because when you live with people like you do with your kids most of the time when you're close to people you know exactly what pisses them off i could make lou hate me and divorce me with about three sentences but you wouldn't say them because that's not nice that's not how humans that's that's just

simply not how and but kids don't care about that so they will say it yeah yeah oh look your daddy with your big fat belly belly you can't say that but my um my kids have started calling me a they started calling me a trout sniffer and a fart sniffer. And they say, Indy says, your breath smells. If I go to kiss her, she goes, daddy, your breath smells. And you're like, wow, that's pretty, pretty honest. But you've got to respect that. Kids just say exactly what they think. And that's what, that's what I love about them.

They do crack me up. And you've got two, is that right? Yeah. So my first little girl, Indy, she's three years old now. So Indy is my little sweetheart. And then my little boy now is two. So I've got a little two-year-old boy and they're they're they love each other but they also drive each other mad and that's what I'm starting to see like how they interact and how they frustrate each other and trying to let them work stuff out themselves rather than intervening every every 10

minutes oh yeah I'm kind of it's unbelievable I feel like we're just getting to the point so my son is nine months now and I can feel we're getting to the end of the honeymoon period between the two of them do you know what I mean he started to grab stuff that my daughter wants yeah or doesn't even want until he grabs it you know the absolute classic and I can feel I'm entering that period where they're both going to be going for the same stuff which is it's going to be it's difficult to police that right and you are you is your you try and sit back on that do you well yeah that's the thing like this the snatching isn't it they're so aggressive with the snatching and like they just like i always say look just ask him when

when he's finished of it you can have a go but like you said indy will jump on the scooter and then marley wants to scoot her she'll get off it he wants the bike she wants back so it is they're just constantly trying to push each other and dominate each other, you know, and it's quite funny to watch. But no, obviously I try, if they're really kicking off, I'll have a word of them. But I am trying to get them to do that thing of, you know, like, and my brother Nicky started doing it, his little boy. When he gets really worked up, he says, look, take a breath,

take a deep breath. And something about it, when you get a kid to stop, when they're screaming, take a really deep breath, it kind of, it resets them a little bit. And they can take a moment to, know they're not like going to go into full meditation but they it definitely helps so i've started to say to india just take a deep breath and she'll like go and then i say right what what are you thinking what's going on and she'll explain and then you sort of think why why don't marley have it for one more minute and i'll

keep my timer on and then you can have it and then like you can do the few you can diffuse these things much quicker than you can if you scream and shout and slam doors and say what you're doing because i remember as a kid um my mum my mum used to basically if we me and nikki my brother we used to row all the time and i've got memories of her like pouring cereal in my head and banging our heads together like just to shut us up and that didn't really do it they didn't actually stop us from arguing we just wait till she left the room we'd carry on so yeah i'm trying to diffuse things as opposed to kind of you know fire them up again because you're obviously a very sort of like positive very positive and quite a progressive parent you're reading lots of books and you know always trying to learn what you can do do you

think that's because of your upbringing I mean I mean I know a little bit about it I'm not sure all our listeners know but was it was it a difficult upbringing then for you as a child yeah I'm quite open about my childhood and I don't have any kind of resentment to it but you know I talk about openly because I think people when they see you they think you have this life and this is what you've lived but you know I've I've really you know I've kind of come from quite quite a tough upbringing in terms of you know my mum and dad both had severe mental health issues um my mum that manifested in um you know severe OCD like cleaning the house three four five times a day eating disorders and um you know anxiety and my dad was a heroin addict from a very young age. So he kind of medicated with that.

But, you know, yeah, I was in that environment where I didn't feel safe as a child. I didn't feel, I felt like everything was, you know, uncertain because my dad would be clean, then he'd be in rehab, then he wouldn't there. And so, you know, my mum predominantly raised us. And, you know, I'm proud of my childhood. You know, it's made me, I always think when i look at myself and how i become so ambitious like something inside of me drives me forward and i i really think it's because you know i've had that experience and i i now want to help other other families and other kids and get get families moving and get children that may be suffering with their mental health or their parents you know to just to get moving and so yeah i think we are so shaped by our childhood you know the experience that we have and I've actually just finished filming a documentary about it I've gone

right into it and it's been it was really emotional like going back and speaking to my mum and dad about you know what what was I like as a kid how was I through primary school and secondary school and yeah like these things affect you don't know massively and and when you speak to your parents about it now how do they perceive it like that childhood is it in the same way that you would perceive it well it was quite interesting because i thought it was going to be like a really easy documentary just like because i don't feel like i don't knock it out move on to the next book 15 minutes deep dive on my life next one let's go easy peasy leaning 15 yeah it basically became more personal and i thought i'm not like emotionally affected by

this but then when i when i sat down and talked about it it was a very emotional documentary to film that and talk to talk to my mom and dad about it but you know my mom i always say to mom look like i'm a product of you and um you know me and my brothers like we're good parents we're good you know we're good partners like so be proud of the parent and you know although it was a bit chaotic you know because my house my household chaotic. There was a lot of police knocking down the door and there was arguing and, you know, doors getting slammed. And like, it was just mad. And when I think about my, when I look at my kids and I put them in bed and I think how much love and patience they need to feel safe and secure. Like, I can't really visualize myself being that kid anymore.

I mean, that's why I found it quite upsetting because I was like, I can't believe I went through those kinds of things. And I came out and I didn't do drugs. I didn't go down that path and I really broke that mold. So when I think about how, how, how I've done what I've done, I'm proud of it because a lot of people wrote us off. You know,

when I was kids, my mom's, you know, people, people at school, people, the neighbors used to think like we were going to be wrong. And it's because we were from this household that we were never going to amount to nothing.

You know, we were just going to be junkies and we were going to be in and out of prison and stuff but you know me and my brothers we never went down that path so i think my mom and dad for all their kind of mistakes we really learned from that and i think they've done an amazing they must have done an amazing job of us yeah exactly because it all you know it worked out in the end didn't it but um it must be it must be it must be so mad though you know the lifestyle your kids achieve or have now that you've achieved for them. And what you had, you just sort of pinch yourself sometimes when you're tucking them up into bed in your lovely home.

And you've all got your books coming out and you've been such a success. And also not even in from a sort of money success point of view, but just from a social point of view. You were like the guy that went out there and did those YouTube workouts for kids through a pandemic. And you can't even put a price on that, really, of what that sort of did and help people and stuff like that. So not only the sort of success and that kind of thing, but just from the, you know, being respected by the country, really. It's quite a jump, isn't it, from a chaotic background? Yeah, it is. It is like I can't believe, you know, some of the things I've done. Like, you know, it was never my intention.

All these things have kind of happened because I really had that purpose from the start of my of my career as a trainer which is like can I can I make someone feel good can I get them feeling energized and exercising and you know physically changing but also mentally and I'm so that's my north star right so every day I wake up like I always think if I can get one person exercising or one person cooking a healthy meal I've achieved my goal and I think you know someone like getting the mbe like i sat down my mom i said mom can you believe like you know i was i was in like detention after school and i was i was a disruptive annoying little prick like at school how did i end up getting it how did i end up getting an mbe from the queen like it doesn't it doesn't make sense like but something you know when i woke up that day every single morning 9am to do mp with joe

workers all i could think about was you know kids in little flats council houses or you know, when I woke up that day, every single morning, 9am to do MP with Joe workers, all I could think about was, you know, kids in little flats, council houses, or, you know, whatever, what size house they're in, you know, being a bit confused, a bit scared, a bit lonely. I thought if I can get them kids moving, if I can do say have fun with them and do a workout, it's going to pick them, pick them up. Then, then that's it. And that, that was the driving force. Like all the other book deals and all that stuff that comes off of that.

That's just a by-product of, of you popular people support you right if you if you release a book and people love you they're going to buy a book but i think for me like my greatest achievement will always be p with joe you know always be those those workouts during lockdown well that nearly a million people it was a world record million people watching your second one wasn't it in march of 2020 it's unbelievable also more impressively it says on here your middle name's trevor so to be this successful and have to deal with being called trevor as your middle name it's unbelievable imagine if it was imagine trevor wicks you sound like a baddie from eastenders my little boy marley he knows it winds me up so now he goes joe trev wick joe trevor wicks and i go what did you i go what did you just call me

and he goes jo Joe Trev Wick. He loves it so much. But he bubbles around the house calling me Trev, Trevor, and Joe Trev Wick. But yeah, I think it's my great-grandfather was called, was a jockey from Epsom Downs. Oh, really? Wow.

It's called Trevor, yeah. So it's passed down. But yeah, I'm not a big fan of it, really. Lever Trevor, they used to call me at school. I mean, yeah, being your middle name Trevor at school in the 90s, brutal. But you didn't pass it down to Marley then. You didn't get Trevor.

But no, my little boy's called Marley Lukawicz after my little cousin, Luka. And he was originally named after Gianluca Vialli because his mum loved Luka Vialli. Amazing. And so with your kids, do you do workouts, just the three of you? Are you making sure that they feel good even at their young ages?

Yeah, like one of the things, we don't do like structure. I'm not like boot camp. Oh, right, come on, we've got to do our birthday dinner and stuff. No dinner unless you've done 100 press-ups. I felt, you know, kids like literally they learn from everything they watch. They absorb everything, don't they? So I do, I know I've got a little gym upstairs, so I'll be working out and they might run up and see me

and they'll hang on the bar for a few seconds and, you know, do a couple of abs moves. And they still play around, but they're not doing structured exercise. But we just do things like go in the garden, you know, on the scooters or play around together and, you know, do things to keep active. How old were they when you were doing those workouts in lockdown? What ages were your kids? Because that must have been brutal. They just like newborns, was it? Well, Indy was about she's probably about um 18 months old and yeah marley was only about six months old he was tiny oh no he was four he was four months old so he was born in december so yeah started in march he would have been four months old so yeah people really saw them grow up through through

that but basically i was obviously in the house rosey was there obviously with the kids trying to keep them quiet because i wanted it to be nice and quiet and clean. Then they'd run in and we'd be swishing blueberries on the carpet and stuff. What's the age gap, Joe? I think there's 18 months between them. Same as me and Nicky, my brother. They were there

and they made it fun. People loved it. When Indy and Marley and Rosie jumped in one day when I was in hospital, she'd done the teaching assistant thing. People really let people really like seeing them. So they've really watched them grow up, you know, over the last couple of years. I mean, to us, it felt like you were kind of the king of lockdown and you did this amazing

thing. It must've been really stressful with those two kids, right? Well, it was, you know, I look back on that time because it was 18 weeks that first lockdown. So I did all them workouts five days a week and I never knew how long it's going to go on for. And I had no idea. I thought I was doing three weeks of workouts, mate. Did you regret it at any point? Be honest. No, no, I never regret it.

I was exhausted at times emotionally and just mentally. I can't do it. But like, like a performance, performance you just know when you stand in front of the camera you've got to make them people just feel good because i didn't want to i wanted to be an uplifting thing so i had the spin in the wheel and you know i had the kind of fancy dress and the quizzes i tried to make it engaging but i never ever didn't want to turn up but there was time and i you could tell on camera i was a bit flat my mood went right but at the end of it you know like it was my therapy too like having that structure having that 30 minutes a day like it was a really i felt like i had something to wake up for i'd say to focus on and you know the impact it had on them people like you know millions of families and i

i only only when i stopped and finished it did i truly acknowledge that but i had all these letters from people and cards and stuff and proper like i opened them and i was just in bits mate because i was reading these letters from you know people that had been like widowed and they'd turned it on like just for a morning to see what it's all about and then they did it like you know 60 70 old men and women doing it all through lockdown with you know on their own or there would be kids doing it you know had anxiety or had you know autism or they were just a bit kind of all over the place they did it and it and it really made an impact so for me like that was a big moment to sort of stop and actually read all those letters and stuff from people did you see the um and i'm sure that i mean this it wasn't the main claim uh to credit but did you see the uh

picture of louis through topless after you've done a joe wicks workout yeah so i look the story of lou through hey he's in great shape but i've got, like, he's one of my biggest fans, he does a workout every single day, he's done all the P, he's done all P with Joe workouts, he missed one, and basically, he said to me, I actually interviewed him

for my podcast, and he said, if you ever want to do a TV show, let's do it, so he's the one that's, he's just produced my documentary for me,

so it's going to go, yeah, it's going to go on BBC One, and yeah, he's amazing, I'm a proper Lou Theroux fan, so when I found out he was doing my workout, I was like that's so fun i was awesome it was

awesome and i got him on the podcast i don't know why i've just googled louis theroux topless now i'm just i couldn't not he's ripped he looks great he does yeah mate he's rigged up he's absolutely rigged up he's doing um he's doing the workouts honestly every day of the week he's got my app now he's on the body coat chat but one thing i say he makes me laugh because he he rates them on spiciness so like if one's hard he calls it like a vindaloo and if one's easy i'll call it a korma or gel freezer but he's giving them a spice rain on how tough they are i'll have to do i want to get ripped off through i was i'm trying to get ripped like gary barlow but i think louis through might be more obtainable yeah it's barlow ripped as well is he in good shape now he was was when he came back, didn't he?

Because he used to be a bit heavier, didn't he? And then he came back for X Factor and was ripped to shit, wasn't he? Oh, good on you, Barlow. Yeah, go on. The Barlow's a dream for a sort of chubby blonde bloke like me. So I'll get there one day. Have you ever seen how ripped Andy Peters is?

We've become obsessed with it on this podcast. He is absolutely ripped. Have you seen him? What, even now? Even now? Yeah, he's so ripped mate i remember seeing like a few years back like a men's health like transformation thing and yeah i remember thinking he put on so much muscle like he wanted a proper but that was like 10 years ago

i didn't know he's still at it now he's bursting through polo shirts in the morning doing his giveaways on itv he loves it he can't get enough of it that's incredible good for him obviously you're so busy you've got your new books coming out um feel good food by joe wicks and that's our end of march so that's coming out again you know all you have your app and your tv shows and stuff so what what kind of like what's the split with the parenting really with is it rosie your partner is it rosie yeah yeah rosie's my wife yeah so we've just i mean we've just had a really so look the first the last two years obviously since that very first morning of lockdown i did all the p with joe work outside yeah i did a children need um tour i did a 24 hour children in italian it's hard for her to moan isn't it can i have some time off uh i'm just broadcasting to

the country actually just a pandemic i'm gonna pipe down actually there's a million people there need me. We both found time to chill. But I mean, what I'm saying is that I was just back to back. So I said, look, once this is all over and lockdowns are lifted and we can travel, let's go away. So we've just been away for a few months ago. And it's been so nice to slow down and just not be in demand and not have to do work and not be on my phone.

Because I'm obviously like, in order to keep up what I'm doing, I'm so engaged with my audience. I talk to people on Instagram, on instagram dms i'm on it i'm bang on it all the time but i said look i'm gonna go away i'm gonna just give you all my attention and we had the best time together and it really um brought us together and you know now now i'm back i'm back into the kind of work routine but yeah she you know we we i'm present although i'm busy like i'm still at the house you know everything i do really is from home so yeah you know i'll do my film and I'll do my I'll do my quick recipe and then the rest of the day you know I'm helping out the kids and cooking dinner and you know hanging out and stuff so yeah we've got a good balance because I I don't want to be someone who looks back and says all you did was

work like all you did was take every opportunity and you know do every tour and every book do and film tv shows all year round like and you didn't see your kids so like I'm really aware of that and I don't want to be that guy so i'm much i'm trying to get the balance right and you obviously you blew up through like social media and instagram really wasn't it where you first got a lot of you know attention and stuff like that so it must be hard because your phone for you is you know what almost started it all and you know that's where your deals and opportunities come from so it's weird isn't it when they get off your phone but in your head back your head but that's how i work and that's all you know with the kids because

they all tell me sometimes get off your phone and stuff like that but do you find it hard to stand away from your phone yeah i've been i've been sharing a lot about this recently because you know i really i think the importance of sleep we often we underestimate the importance of sleep as the foundation of which everything lays on in terms of you know your exercise your energy your the food you cook the choices you make and how you are with your kids and your relationship so i'm really trying to promote sleep and i think the biggest disruptor to sleep is the smartphone right so for me if i take my phone in the bedroom and it's there next to me even if i'm not thinking of work but subconsciously it's there i'll wake up go for a quick wee i'll come back pick the phone up before you know i've

done an hour of replying to dms to people at 2 a in the morning yeah and i'm doing emails and i'm i'm reading the news and i'm getting worked up and getting triggered by things and it's like yeah it's the single most um disruptive thing to my sleep but also when i'm with the kids if i'm with them and i'm just looking at them and i'm talking to them i'm i'm way more calm and chilled right when i have the phone in my hand and i'm trying to like post something on instagram or read an email that's where the instant stress and frustration comes it's like it's an instant source of what what do you want like i'm trying to do something and so for me like i'm learning to like have those hours well at between like say five and seven when i'm doing the dinner and bath time and i just don't have my phone just leave it in a drawer um and it's not every day

i do something it's something it's like a magnet and it bang it's stuck right back in your hand again you think what am i doing but that you know the biggest key for me i think is not not having a phone during those just those important moments like you know bath bedtime and story time just trying to have it and then obviously you know with night time if you can you know get the phone out your bedroom and you can detach from it then you don't you don't have that tendency just to like grab it and scroll because you're our brains want to be distracted so if we wake up we we want to watch the news we want to read articles we want to reply and it's like it's so disruptive that it kind of it's so consuming so for me it's like physically removing it from my room is the best thing i can do and you'll get more done won't you if you have

specific hours for it you know if you say like right from 12 to 3 i'll be on my phone doing all that and then stop you actually get more done i think I wouldn't say it's the biggest disruptor of my sleep I'd say that's my nine month old to hear someone say that the phone is the biggest disruptor of sleep is a real hammer blow in my lifestyle at the moment but yeah it's a close second it's a close second I will speak to that because it is one it's a very triggering subject when you talk about sleep so that certain people find it really hard obviously new parents new parents, people with insomnia, people that work night shifts, it's a hard subject to kind of talk about.

And I know it's hard. I've had two kids under two, and Indy was a good sleeper, and I thought it was sweet as a nut. But Marley was really, really rough, man. It was tough for the first sort of nine, ten months. But, you know, it's not about getting, like, eight or nine hours of solid sleep, but can you go to bed half an hour earlier?

You know, can you not be on your phone when you wake up and it's little things it's like little adjustments because it does add up you know half an hour a night adds up it means something and it can it means you can wake up with a little bit more energy and you might do a workout and you might not you know reach for those um biscuits and that junk food because you've had a bit of a rough night's sleep so it's not just about volume of sleep it's like quality of sleep and can you just have a better routine and i just always think we can always find a little bit more time to sleep if we if we just sacrifice the tv and the phone and the you know the netflix shows and we say right i'm just going to go to bed half an hour and that that could be a simple thing like that and it makes

a massive difference on your body and mind your book um feel good food is like obviously it's about eating to make yourself feel good so it's a similar kind of area of all these things helping you kind of feel mentally well and it all feeding into each other what would you say like writing it with a kind of the key kind of elements to uh make yourself eat and cook food that is uh making you feel. Yeah. I think this book's different in the, in a sense that I'm looking at through a new lens now, because if you think back to my first books, lean in 15, it was very much about, you know, fat loss and building muscle, burning fat, getting lean. It was all about the physical change,

the body image and losing weight. And what I've realized over time is that, yeah, that is, that is a motivate for some people, but the thing that really brings you back to good food and exercise is is how it changes the way you feel how it gives you energy how it makes you feel like you know alive and feel productive and focused and really energized for things and so i talk about that like because we always think well sleep and exercise yeah really important but we don't think about how much food affects our mood like it massively affects our mood and mental health so you know it's about cooking food that is going to nourish you that's going to give you energy that's going to make you think like yeah

i'm well up for a workout today or you know i'm gonna you know be focused at work and have a really productive day so i think it's obviously everything comes it comes together but it's sleep at the bottom as a foundation and then you've got like nutrition exercise and obviously you know mindfulness and and meditation stuff you can get down that route. But I find that very, I find that too hard, the meditation stuff. I can't get into it. Is your mind going everywhere? I can do it in little bursts, but consistently I can, I can consistently train and I consistently eat well, but I just,

I can't do the slowing down men's mental health meditation stuff is for me, the most challenging because I just, I'd rather exercise or I'd rather just, you know, go for a walk or walk or i suppose that is a form of meditation but yeah i don't i don't have that i don't have that kind of really calmness where i can just sit down and do it every day but i think that's kids as well though to be honest because i i when you've got young kids like your house is never quiet for a second do you know i mean there's constantly stuff crashing or banging or we've got to do this you've got to do that or you eventually get the kids out the house and something needs tied in but i think that mindfulness meditation stuff may come i'm thinking a bit later when my

kids are on choir or in school when they're in school i can but when they're in the house it's no chance no no it's tough it's tough but yeah it's just about like i always my new philosophy as well is about like little daily wins so when you start to think about it all it's too much it's overwhelming right you've got to lose weight you've got to go to sleep you've got to be nice to the kids you've got to be patient you've got to be hard working it's all these things it's too much it's overwhelming right you've got to lose weight you've got to go to sleep you've got to be nice to the kids you've got to be patient you've got to be hard working it's all these things it's too overwhelming but i think if you focus on like small daily wins right like little things that could be you know it could benefit you and your relationships whether it's like half an hour off the phone or you go to bed an hour like these little things add up you know

all these little wins i say so it's about kind of breaking things down into that small bite-sized goals then you start tosized goals. Then you start to really make progress. Then you start to see your body and your mind starts to feel a bit more, you know, energized and upbeat and stuff. And do you find your kids, I mean, they're very young, but can you see that they're kind of similarly like focused and energized? We speak to lots of people and you're a very defined character. Like you're very different to a lot of people that we'd speak to in that you're so driven and stuff what are your children like as characters um it's hard to kind of see at the moment because they're still quite young but you know they're definitely they're really curious you know they they really love to be like up on

the counter when i'm cooking and you know they i i mean my favorite thing to do them is reading books so i just i see how much that's affecting their language and speech that they're, they're learning so much through that process. So, you know, it's non-negotiable, whatever I'm doing, I'll put my phone down, I'll put everything down and I'll go upstairs and I'll read them a couple of, you know, little books for five or 10 minutes. And so that, these are things that I think can really influence their, you know, their vocabulary and their learning, which I love, but yeah, who knows?

I have no idea what they're going to do, you know, when they're old and what they're going to be into, but they have had a very different life. Like, you know, I had a really what they're going to do, you know, when they're old and what they're going to be into. But they have had a very different life. Like, you know, I had a really different childhood. I wanted to, you know, provide for them. And I suppose they haven't got that. They haven't, they might not have that hunger that I had to be something different and work hard.

You know what I mean? So who knows? But I know they're really kind, you know, all I want them to be is kind and they're very loving and affectionate. Like we're all kissing and cuddling. And I really like that about them. They're very affectionate, you know know so that's all you can do and it just teaches them to be kind and and be nice to people they meet and respectful do they

eat well obviously you're cooking good food but you know what kids are like this one beige are they eating what you guys are eating or are you just chucking in nuggets well they love their chocolate i mean they love their chocolate and their treats and they're they're non i can never seem to feed them enough. All they ever ask me is food, food, food all day long. But, you know, as a kid, I realized when I was a kid, my diet was really, really bad. It was all processed foods and, you know, busy drinks and energy bar, all sorts of stuff. And it affected my energy and my behavior because I was really disruptive at school and I was hyperactive.

And, you know, what we know now, I can tell it is 100% linked to the food that i was eating and stuff so i think i'm aware of that so i'm always sunny delight was you on sunny delight as a kid oh mate so my my diet was crispy pancakes waffles smiley faces um sunny delight california style i used to drink the whole carton of that when i was in school that was big when we were about the same age but that one summer when that was massive and everyone had it and then people started going yellow, didn't they? Yeah, it's really, yeah, that was the stuff. And just a lot of chocolate, a lot of ice, because it's all two for one, like Iceland, you know,

wagon wheels and ice gems and that. But yeah, I give my kids treats. They have treats, of course they do. But I try to just give them the food that we eat because by doing that, it's less stress, it's easier in the kitchen and, you know, we get to enjoy food and eat together. like it's one of them things like you know no day's perfect they are they have days where they just have you know beans on toast and that's it you know and they have days and have a bowl of cereal but ultimately the majority of the time i try and get them on

you know the healthy stuff that i'm cooking as a family so you went away with them for a couple of months obviously they're not in school yet so you can you can do that um but as much as it was a you know quite blissful a break were there moments when they were just doing your editing because you know it don't matter where you are in the world if you've got two-year-old just kicking off it don't matter if you're in paradise does it oh mate i mean everyone always goes oh do your kids not have tantrums and they always look so happy but of course you only share the nice bits on instagram like Yeah. Like them having a little moment at Disneyland, but you know, 30 seconds later,

they're screaming and rolling around the floor. Like having, having a fit in the middle of Disneyland. So now there's, there's loads of moments like that. And you know, that's just kids. And this is what I mean about that.

Their brains are irrational. They just, they can lose the plot over nothing. And you have to, you have to think, right, am I going to react to that and shout and scream at them? Or can I,

can I kind of come at it from a different angle? But no, they definitely, they drive me mad. the time they drive me most the mad is probably like you know in the car or when they're in like you know confined space where they want to get out because they just need that kids need that like they need to be moving about then they're releasing the energy and stuff so yeah there's loads of times when they drive me mad but ultimately like we were outside like because the weather was nice it was in california so we could be in the park for hours.

Now I'm back and it's colder. It's much harder to, like, entertain them and stimulate them because you don't want to be outside in the freezing cold. It's harder. I can't imagine you angry, Joe. What's it like? I reckon he's got a side. He's doing all this media.

I know. He's from the same background as me. He could have a tear up in Spatham if he wants. He could infer nose headbutting the bouncer and running away. He could have a tear up in Spatham if he wants. Don't get his head in his nose, headbutting the bouncer and running away. I think you've got that in you somewhere, Joe, haven't you? I was never a fighter. I was never a fighter as a kid.

But no, I've definitely got just that basically like, you know, impatience, to be honest, because I was the youngest kid in the school. We didn't have a year above us. We were the first year. So we never had anyone above us to bully us. I mean, we were year seven and then we became year eight and we were always the oldest year. Oh that's weird i bet you must have like an absolute king yeah we just had a crew we cruise right through um i'm not i'm not i'm not i don't

get angry but i do get impatient and intolerant and like i said it's linked to like my my brain being distracted by something else if i if i'm not if i'm not on my phone and trying to do something i can be really calm and relaxed but the minute they come up to me and i'm just like they're screaming and shouting at me like i don't have the ability to like like do two things at once and i just you know i get i get impatient and i'll snap sort of thing but yeah it's i don't want to be a dad and i you know i did this once i slammed the door on marlin i just felt so bad after that that's the guilt you feel is unbelievable isn't it at the moment you you lose it because i kept putting him down i kept reading a book and i

was i was doing the best i could and then it like 20 minutes went by i just slammed the door on the way and i i felt so bad i went down and said to rosie and i talked talked about i said you wouldn't do that like why am i doing that you never do that like you're always so patient and i and i and i just like accepted it and acknowledged it. But I realised that's all I know as a kid. My mum and dad used to slam doors. There was holes in the wall. We had really cheap council house doors and they were really thin.

So there was always holes and you could see through it, like this cardboard honeycomb sort of thing. And I never used to know what the holes were from. But then I realised as I grew up that it was because my mum and dad were fighting they were punching through walls and stuff do you know what i mean so these things they are you're a deep sleeper these things are inside us they're like you know it is it's my default mode to also be like you know in slam doors and stuff but i have to like accept that i'm human and and sometimes you do shit like that but you can you can learn from it and you don't have to do it again.

And it all goes back to sleep. If you're well rested, you won't get to that stage so quickly. If it's when you're knackered, you get triggered easier, isn't it? Oh, massively. I mean, that's, that's the thing that the sleep thing is, obviously it's massive on your physical health because it's, it's, if you're really, really not sleeping, you know, the day you wake up, you know, after a broken night's sleep, you just, you crave junk food. You've got no, no, no energy to like, you can't bother to exercise it but ultimately your

relationships affected because yeah you know you're just you're you're so um you're just frustrated and everything feels way worse this is why i just really promote promoting sleep at the moment and i hope that people don't find that annoying and they know it's coming from a good place because if people woke up after a good night's sleep then all these things that we go through like don't seem as bad you know well i think as well we've bought a new mattress because i was like i don't you know you always go like oh why don't we get that go on holiday if you have a nice rest don't go on holiday or go away for a night and we'll get rested i'm like and if you just rather than doing that if you just spent the money on buying like a new mattress a new bed in a new pillows and making where you sleep every

night better then that's a much more better use of your money than going oh i've got a holiday soon then i'll feel better do you mean because it's only good for a couple of weeks then you're back in the same bed yeah mate you gotta have a good mattress top top shagger i bet you are as well yeah it's all about the stead i've worn it out i've worn it out just you have to get a new one every month don't you rob yeah i do actually it's a nightmare down my road just what are you going for memory phone what we've got a medium phone what we said you know what we did have memory phone but i'm not into it i can't get off pert and i'm joking the memory i'm not a waterbed haven't you rob that's what you got medium to hard but normal mattress i'm moving away from the phone have you got a mattress topper

mattress top is an absolute game changer. I haven't, actually. Oh, mate, that's the best money. Yeah, yeah, well worth it. Yesterday. A topper? What is a topper? Why don't they just attach that to the mattress? Because they can charge you twice this way, Rob. Okay, all right.

It's like an extra layer. You can have a moody mattress, but if you've got a good topper, it just takes the edge off it and it gives you a little bit of extra comfort. Yeah, yeah. Okay, fair enough. Yesterday, I was doing a tour show in Kings Lynn.

Stop showing off, mate. We've all got careers. So I'm big into sleep, Joe, I should say. So Kings Lynn yesterday. I'm doing it most nights, personally. I'm into napping before gigs now, Rob. That's what I do. I do that.

I just lay on a sofa and just try and switch my mind off completely. So I got to Kingsland and there was no sofa and I wanted to nap. Yeah. I felt like I'd been through a divorce. I went and I just, I had no other option. I just slept in the back of the car, in the car park outside the theatre. Oh no. With my coat over me.

In the build up to the show. With the audience walking past. I thought the coat's over me. No build-up to the show. With the audience walking past. I thought the coat's over me. No one's going to see me. I was like, this is meant to be rock and roll on tour. This is one of my lowest moments. Yeah, that is a low moment. What car was it?

Oh, I don't know. A blue one. You know what I know about cars. I know absolutely nothing. A blue one. That's hilarious. You've got to take your chances. I think people don't realise that a little nap can proper boost your energy.

Oh, mate, so good. I'm a massive fan of naps. So Louis Ferroux, he said on my podcast, one of the things he does is he has power naps. That's his way of resetting his mind and body a little bit. And he said he'll be anywhere. He sometimes will go in the toilet and just put his head against the thing and have a little 20-minute power nap.

In the toilet? He said anywhere he can get his chance, anywhere he he'll have a power nap that's his little that's his tip top tip that's a good tip and can you just get to sleep like that i have to put on a podcast during the day but that knocks me right out if i put on a podcast i'm just gone you know i've got into what i love more than anything i've got the um i've got the calm app and there's this thing called sleep stories on there and there's a there's one story matthew mcconaughey reads it called wonder and i put that on and i've never heard the end of it because it always puts me to sleep but yeah like it's just like a really nice story and he's in his lovely american voice and um it knocks me out sparko oh i might give that a

go yeah our struggles get to sleep do you do you listen to that every night then or can you just go to sleep without anything i can i mean i've like i said i'm trying to get the phone out the bedroom so i'm now like trying to detach myself from that but it does if i do wake up and i need something to get me back to sleep i kind of i stick that on and then that really helps it's also one by harry styles which is a good one so i listen to either harry styles or matthew mcconaughey in northern accents or south southern american states you don't want like a scouser. Yeah. Full on trying to get you to sleep, isn't it?

Right, Bella. Okay, so. Stevie Jella, that's why we're down the street. Rob's range of accents is incredible to witness.

Yeah, I don't want to show off. Everyone's got their own talents, but yeah, if you need an accent sorting, I can do it, mate. If you want,

you know, maybe on your app, Joe, you know, if you're telling people to do different exercises, I could come in and can do it, mate. If you want, you know, maybe on your app, Joe, you know, if you're telling people to do different exercises, I could come in and do different accents for you, if that helps. You know, like they can switch it up like the running app. Yeah, a little voiceover.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let me know if you need that. I don't know if you saw that thing I posted. It was hilarious. But someone had dubbed, you know, the Loose Women show, right? So I was on there a few months ago and it says like, and next up we've got Joe Wicks, the PE teacher you know nation's sweetheart coming on to loose women and it showed like the um the women on the panel still talking and some went i don't like him i don't like him i don't like him and

someone like dubbed over it so i shared it obviously it was a joke but people going oh i can't believe she said that like she's like giving her a load of shit and it's basically um someone had done it on tiktok as like a meme but it obviously dubbed it but yeah i found it i found it hilarious man i was laughing i know you're not the one getting hate mail from your hardcore fans to the studio did you ever hear fart gate no no you didn't you didn't hear it was like the the biggest fart in the uk last year you didn't hear what happened no i didn't in was in the uk well basically i i was i went live on my youtube on my p with joe oh yeah no you did a fart i remember this i did a fart and i farted just before it went live and everyone everyone got hold of it and heard it and i was

just so embarrassed oh yeah joe he actually comes up well worldwide news this yeah it was quite funny i owned it i was so embarrassed i said to my mate don what are you like take it down get it off youtube but by the time i'd taken it down daily mail had ripped off the internet and they shared it so it was all over the internet but when i actually owned it i said look i didn't know it's live i'm so embarrassed and people said they they really needed a giggle that day and it made them absolutely they were laughing their pants off there's so many one day when your kids are older they're gonna see that footage that's gonna be one of the things they take are older they're gonna see that footage that's gonna be one of the things they take with them they're gonna be like that was my dad entertaining

the nation definitely unplanned basically it was like you know when you want to hear it again have you heard it since go on play it through fucking hell what are you eating i was just saying you can hear the panic the nerd i was so i was like i've got to let this out i've got five seconds before this goes live so i had to quickly you know get it out and i just was like i couldn't believe it and people going did joe wicks just fart was it real was it was that a joke it sounds like a sound effect it sounds like a kind of cartoon sound effect because i had to push it out fast at the end didn't i it peaked at the end i don't think i can control how the speed i fart could you have you got that that must be your core you've got a better core than me

when you think you're going live you look because if i didn't do it then i would have been doing the workout doing a squat or a punch or something it would have come straight out but yeah it was quite funny i i really uh i really think people needed a little laugh and you know toilet jokes and fart jokes always make you laugh and they never let you down especially i mean especially because it's so obvious that you had to try and quickly fart before you did it if if that became your calling card and you sort of did a fart before every workout it might be a bit weird welcome here we go everyone loves one of them but i think just once is nice and it's special yeah one and done one and done. One and done for the history books.

Right. Should we ask our last question? Also, let's give it another shout out for your new book coming out. Well, obviously now, Feel Good Food, now we've heard what the farts it creates, Joe. It really is. If there was just one final question on the book, what one meal would you say,

if I'm going to cook a meal tonight, I'm vegetarian, to make myself feel good, what one meal from you say i'm if i'm going to cook a meal tonight i'm vegetarian to make myself feel good what one meal from the book would you recommend well there's some really lovely um veggie burgers in this like a you know homemade sort of veggie patty with nice beans and you mix it all up a bit of pesto beans now i see now i see what led to the fart joke yeah it's always beans but yeah that's a good one but always beans there's a there's recipes for everyone it's all about you know family food and food that's a good one. Always beans. There's recipes for everyone. It's all about, you know, family food and food that's going to give you energy and make you feel good.

And there's things, some stir fries, the curries, and obviously like nice sweet treats and desserts. So it's a really, really lovely book. And what I love about this is every single recipe has got a photo as well. And that's something I've never done before. You can get a signed copy on Waterstones. And for the hardcore book fans,

I can let you know that the weight is 270 grams and the dimensions of the book are 252 times 195 millimeters. Because I don't know about you, when I'm buying a book, I want to know if it's fitting on my shelf. Yeah. Do you know what? The sad thing is I was going to buy it, but that is too big. That's too big for my shelf.

That's too heavy. That's too heavy for my shelf. That's too big. It's too wide. It's not going to fit. Make a good doorstop. Make a good doorstop. It's available as an e-book.

I can do it as an e-book, Joe. It's fine. Oh, one last question joey ask all our guests what's the one thing that your um wife does or you know your partner does um that um annoys you their parenting what one thing is it that you know if you uh you haven't told them it annoys you but um if you mention it now and they listen to it and they did change their behavior it would sort of help the house or there's something that winds you up about the way rosie parents or she absolutely perfect in every way it's really silly but basically in these obsessive

dresses right we took her to disneyland and she she just loves wearing dresses and sometimes rosie will fight her for the she because rosie want to put her in a site to go out and i say yeah just let her wear the dress i don't know i just think sometimes letting them choose it and just defusing the argument makes it a little bit easier but but it's rare. I mean, it's normally, normally they end up working out together and she'll put a jumper on, but yeah, she just will not leave the house without a Disney dress on at the moment. Oh really? Okay. And you think let her be free? Yeah. I just think I'll go and just let her wear it. But Rose, no, it's freezing outside. And I'm like,

I'll just stick a jumper on her. But other than that, she, she's a very, you know, she's very kind and kind of naturally maternal mum, which is what I love about. And I think I learned a lot from her, you know, I watch her and I think I would be so stressed and so wound up right now and you're not. And I think every time I watch her, I learn from that and I kind of take it on board a bit and then I try and, like, you know, react the same.

Oh, brilliant. Well, that's very lovely. You managed to make her a compliment at the end. Oh, my God, you're so perfect, Joe. Fucking hell. Apart from that one clip of you farting. Yeah. Your dirty guts letting loose on YouTube.

You feel fat. Thanks so much. Feel Good Food by Joe Wicks is available March 17th. March 17th. That's it, yeah. Patrick's Day. Well, look, lovely chatting to you, boys. Thanks for having me on.

Lovely chatting to you, Joe. Thanks so much, mate. Cheers, bye. Cheers, mate. Joe Wicks there. There you go, mate. Cheers. Bye. Cheers, mate. Joe Wicks there. There you go. Very positive man. Very positive.

What a lovely man. Absolutely. Pleasure to talk to him. National treasure, Rob? Yeah, I think he's working his way towards there and he's not going to get any less, less charming or good looking or,

you know, motivating. So, you know, I mean, it actually makes me feel sick. Look how good, he's so good looking as well.

He's so good looking, isn't he? His body looks his body looks so hard yeah all right every part of it's hard i'm glad he's gone at this point thanks joe uh make sure you buy his book get his food get his app do his exercises watch his documentary follow him on social media etc etc um we'll be back tuesday of another episode see you then bye bye