Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S6 EP22: Rose Hanson

Episode Date: March 24, 2023

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Whittacombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or, hopefully, how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with advice and of course tales of parenting woe because let's be

honest there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing hello you're listening to parenting hell with oh shit we've got another one of these michael i'll leave that in leave it in it's all good oh fuck it we don't need one today no people like them i wasn't recording as well so you'd have to get that bit off the zoom should we start again let's carry on welcome how are you rob um yeah not too bad um we were we left on tuesday with you talking about bo Bobby Castle where it's called Bobby Tracy is there a Bobby Castle? that is a

very nice hotel that people stay in in Devon right okay Bobby Castle and I can't remember what we were talking about I was just discovering

where you lived which is the most Devon thing I've ever seen oh no you asked me about the rock in the pub yes you worked there and that was like

crazy days for you was it Josh? so I used to do two hours a week separate from each other. Why? I think you told us about this. You put the wood in the. Yeah. So that's where I did the woodshed.

Yeah. And then you might be able to see in that picture. There was a post office called Evelyn's. Well, it wasn't called Evelyn's, but the woman around it was called Evelyn. Okay. And so you call it Evelyn's rather than the post office. Yeah. Rather than the post office. Okay. And that she used to sell some fucking good you know sweets in jars yes yeah yeah so you'd get like a bomb by the quarter yeah bonbons oh my god i'd love to go back there

so there you go rob yes hate or veil hate or veil what what a place to grow up. Yeah, so if we needed anything, obviously the post office is now closed down because of cuts. And so now if you live in Hay Tor Vale, you need a pint of milk. It's a good three-mile drive to get a pint of milk. Or a two-hour walk to Bovey. Two-hour walk to Bovey Tracy. Well, we go to the spa every Sunday night. God.

Did you just go there every Sunday night? God, I love the past. Yeah, get all the stuff for the week. So you do your weekly shop in a spa? Yeah. Isn't that mental? How big's this spa? Not very big. By the time I got to secondary school, we had graduated to Tottenham

Sainsbury's, actually, I think. No wonder you're so excited to be in London. Mate, when I moved to Manchester, it was insane. I couldn't believe that there was... What shops were the most? I could walk from my door to a newsagent. On pavement? On pavement.

So now the post office is shut in Haytel Vale, what shops have you got? None. There's the Rock Inn, which doesn't like locals. It's kind of a tourist-based pub. And that's it. Why live there? Because it's very picturesque and lovely.

Yeah, but there's nothing there. People like that, Rob. But no, no. People don't like the hubbub. People don't like nothing. People do like nothing. No, they don't like nothing. People do like nothing. No, they don't like nothing. They do like nothing.

No, they can't like nothing, surely. People do like nothing, Rob. No, I don't. I like something. I like something going on, Josh. I know, but I don't think it's for you. No, not that. You know, we're moving a bit more out to the

country but not like that that's that's beyond that's that's too far straight edge so tell me something that you do with your so so for school yeah bob so let me tell you about sick form because i'm sick from 20 miles away that's that is a three-hour drive through london 20 miles yeah exactly how far was it for you so you'd go two hour walk to bovie tracy well no no no so i get the lift from my parents okay but normally i wouldn't get the the quicker bus went from drum bridges roundabout which is a roundabout on the uh a38 so if you google drum bridges roundabout what is this drum bridges roundabout yeah i'm googling it so you that's the quicker bus how long's that then is it to your school so that would be 40 minutes to exeter but also that bus went every

two hours so if you missed it you were in serious trouble and the the bus went at 7.25am. So it's a 20 minute drive for my parents probably. So we were leaving the house before 7. And then I was standing on the side of a roundabout. Hoping that I hadn't missed the bus. Pre-mobile phones again. So if I'd missed the bus, I'd then have to walk to a phone box to phone my parents and say I'd missed the bus. Because when was the next bus? 9.25.

This is fucking awful. Is like a bear's grill episode bear's grill what's he saying about grills i know i said that word oh that is brutal yeah so it's mad to look back on it really so if from my house i could go like walk 30 seconds to a bus stop and that bus would take me to the o2 arena if i wanted well there was a bus that went to um the o2 yeah no to newton abbott which was the local town from haytel vale uh but the bus came once a week Did anyone miss it and wait? No, but my gran, before she passed the driving test, she used to have to get it.

And it was, HLV was like down on the bottom of a hill. And the bus only went to the top of the hill, but she was the only person who was getting it. And so she wrote to the local MP to ask for him to get the bus to go down to the bottom of the hill and he did. He managed to... Well, not managed.

And the bus then went down to the bottom of the hill to pick her up. Oh, look at that. The good old days. You had a direct line to your MP. Yeah, exactly. Jesus Christ. She's still a great friend, but...

Yeah. But, um... So there you go. Right. Hate or Veil. That is a real in-depth look at Hate or Ve veil there that, you know, no one asked for, but we all love. Maybe you should go and live there for a week and we'll do an episode, Rob.

Um, you know, okay. So I don't think that's a good idea. When you're a kid, you don't think this is quite an odd place to grow up at all. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Also, we get about a week off school a year due to snow because the bus just could never get through. It was brilliant. Fair enough.

Yeah, that was proper countryside. Great times. So, this guest, after the huge success of Lou appearing to have her say, Rose is having her say. And I'd say Lou was a 12-round boxing contest. I'd say this was more an MMA annih annihilation from rose on you yeah it was recorded before i nailed her 40th yeah this was recorded before josh had nailed her 40th birthday what was interesting was lou had a list of things that she sort of semi disagreed with from the

podcast rose just sort of mentioned stuff she didn't like about you yeah a mention's a strong word it wasn't very like oh then this happened and that wasn't quite accurate which is the idea was this was lou and rose's right of reply to talk about things that had happened on the show and i'd say it was a little bit more of just like what's rose's problems with josh as opposed to episodes i've got some great photos of your body language as well josh i'm going to send these to you now and then we can put these up on the podcast instagram page so everyone can see how uncomfortable you were your your body language is like this is the order i send them is the

how you relaxed during the episode look at your little curled up like a scared cat yeah that's not ideal is it but, but it is quite... I found it quite stressful when Lou was doing... Yeah, that's not great. Was doing me. Oh, God, I'm actually dreading this episode going out now. Oh, God. Here we go.

I've just seen the body language. This is special guest Rose Hanson. I've just got to text the cab to say that... The who? The car. The who? The car. The club? The car, because we've mistimed it. Okay.

Send message. Are you aware that we're recording a podcast now? Yeah, but it's real, isn't it? This is real stuff. Oh, fuck it. I'll get Flo to do it. This is a little bit what it's like being married to Josh. He's put the mic down

and he's texting his agent to book him a cab no not to book it to say that i'm going to be late to get there so don't leave don't to leave oh i'm panicking he's panicking he can't speak i think he's a bit nervous about this chat rose this is your chance forward to it he's not looking at me he's he's i know because i'm trying to make sure this car doesn't leave since we've been in this room, basically we've been at my house filming some content for the arena shows with Rose and Lou. And now we're all sat together.

We're not doing this on Zoom. We're all sat together in my front room. And it is your Right to Reply episode, Rose, that Josh did with me and Lou. We did that recently, Lou's episode. And I was quite anxious about it. And I'd say, since you've been in this room, Josh hasn't looked you directly in the eye once.

No. He's also sat like he's a little mermaid. Like his little feet are tucked under him. There is a definite... Can I take a photo of how he's sat? I like sitting like that on a sofa. It's quite defensive. He's going quite fetal.

I'm spread out like a fat walrus splayed across a scunthorpe dockyard. Right, let's get on with it. Okay, so I've got a few questions for you, Rose, at the end about Josh. Where did that come from? Just some things I've picked

up over the episodes. Right, I didn't know that was an option. No, well it is. It's all an option. We're the episodes. Right, I didn't know that was an option. No, well, it is. It's all an option. We're all sort of creative, aren't we? Life's an option. Okay, that's bleak. Rob's got quibbles as well. Not quibbles, but concerns.

If you were picking him up from school, I'd pull you to the side and go, can I have a word about Josh? It's basically an intervention. No, no, it's not bad. Do you think he should be put up a year? No, not that. No, not that.

That's separate. But we can get to that later. This is Rose's opportunity. I'm going to shut up now. It's your opportunity to basically anything that Josh has spoken about in the podcast that you slightly disagree with or the story got twisted in the telling or anything you want to get off your chest. This is your opportunity to sort of do that, Rose.

Lou was mainly just stuff she wanted to get off her chest for the last decade yeah pretty much it's quite therapeutic it's been great for our relationship she's been all over me since first and foremost you've got to stop calling my things knickknacks oh it's about me it's about you okay okay sure let's work through this actually there's been a quite a removal of knickknacks actually since having a boy i'd say actually your house does make me sound like i live in a charity shop no okay so maybe i've said that for comic effect however i'd say there's lots of antique i don't know if you know if it is antique or looks antique really beautiful oh shit no no but like nice lamps tables and stuff like that however there are also lots of

little plates cups and saucers yeah yeah you're right dotted around they're not they're not anymore but i'd say if anyone walks into your house go what a beautiful house what amazing furniture yes there are a few knickknacks knocking about but i don't think the knickknacks the headline however knickknacks a fun word to say i know so i think one of my favorite episodes well favorites are interesting word but is the day when i went to cornwall and basically josh peston seemed to have like just an absolute meltdown over nakado order what i would say is that whereas there's things that just happen in a day when you're looking after children like getting their teeth cleaned or getting them dressed that kind of thing

when you were doing it it was very much like they were oh my god and then i had to get them dressed you're like well that's just a thing that happens that's just a day that's a day yeah but i had to get them dressed with Peston in the evening. Yeah. Looming. Peston looming. Peston loomed over the day. I could tell that he was fucked off with me.

Peston. Peston. Yeah, Peston fucking hates me. No, Josh was. Because there was a real, you know, when you're texting and there's a real lack of response. I barely had time to reply. Oh, yeah. I was doing so much stuff.

But there was a real. I'm sorry I wasn was doing so much stuff but there was a real i'm sorry i wasn't responding to a text there was a real you know like you send a text or you send a picture and there's like absolutely tumbleweed and you think he's not happy always busy also i got accused of ordering a mirror to arrive on this day that wasn't't my... You get given a slot? Yeah, the guy texted me, he was like, this is when it's arriving. And I was like,

this is when the mirror's arriving. Yeah. So that's a quibble. Are you saying that essentially what Josh was moaning about and turning into the end of the world scenario of, oh my God,

there's food arriving, there's a mirror, there's children. Well, I think the Ocado was, it was an unfortunate day. That was bad. To be fair, I fucked up on the Ocado.

Did you over-order? I'd forgotten. But also, you ordered it on a day when I was... But I checked that with you. I said to you... Yeah, but I wasn't listening. Well, that's the problem, Josh. Can I interject?

There is the problem. On my days, never been knocked off a kilter because food's been delivered to my house. Yeah, but there's an Ocado. You didn't have to go to the problem. On my days, never been knocked off a kilter because food's been delivered to my house. Yeah, but there's a Ricardo. You didn't have to go to the shop. No, but I didn't need to. That was the key. There was like some mental things

that had been put in the freezer as well that just didn't need to go in the freezer. And when I... They were in the freezer bag. You put like smoked salmon in the freezer. I didn't put smoked salmon in the freezer. Why are you freezing smoked salmon? He doesn't... He understand fish he won't get it he doesn't understand fish but there there was like who does i mean to be fair when i saw the picture i was like oh shit

we do have loads of cook meals in the freezer and i have ordered quite a few chicken pies because our daughter loves them yeah and then you sent me the picture of the table and I thought, oh fuck, that's not going in. But I just suggested, why don't you just throw some stuff away in the freezer?

There's loads of old shit in there. Because that's such a big job. When you're already behind to go, okay, let's root through the freezer and see what's old. I do that with the fridge.

Yeah, you love, you love you i don't i hate it i know i'm joking oh yeah but i'm the one who's great to see people with such a good connection just finish each other's sentences i hate the cleaning out of the fridge job i don't mind if i've got time it's quite a saga with you when you're cleaning out the fridge as well there's what about when you're cleaning out the fridge how's that go down oh there's a couple of things i get constantly ribbed for on the podcast one is that i can't drive absolutely fair it is really annoying and the second is me like leaving things in the fridge and then stand by it saying oh that's gone off. You're doubling down. But I also think there's so many.

Yes, all the pestos. But Josh loves buying olives, piccalillies, those jalapeno things, eating about four of them and then leaving them. The whole top of the fridge is just half mouldy.

I know what you're going to say. The artichoke hearts. I'm never eating them. I mean, I didn't even know they were in there, but I didn't know. I bet you'd have a vine leave, didn't you? Do you know what you're going to say the artichoke hearts I'm never eating them I mean I didn't even know they were in there but I didn't know I bet you'd have a vine leave didn't you

do you know what I think they're overrated but they're exactly in my wheelhouse before we had kids if ever we went on a mini break in the UK

if there was a shop that sold jams and piccalillies he was there like a rat up a drainpipe he loves that homemade chutney absolutely loves picker lily yeah a chutney yeah so many of them so yeah that they're pickled that's what i get slagged off for and it's all right yeah i'll accept i think the cardo is just unfortunate timing. Also, I would argue you are telling a story for comedic effect

and you wasn't probably as stressed. I don't know. I think you were. I'm stopping myself. Sometimes you could accuse me of some anecdotes of juicing them up a bit. But I would say that day. You spoke for an hour.

I had the shits. It's such a common theme in these stories isn't it you've always got the shits no I wish oh you bunged up are you well

let's not go into it well why not it's a lot there are stomach issues though remember before the palladium yeah but I had

I had the norovirus and I actually had it as well and I think I'm pretty sure I gave it to you i'm pretty sure that was my you have got skin issues it's called chicken pox i've actually found something that when you admitted to how long that a cardo order had been

on the floor which has got underfloor heating i was slightly concerned about some of the meatish things that had just been left there. Well, I put all the meat inside, in. And then I found those yoghurt lollies and I opened one the other day and I was like, what the fuck has happened to this? And then I thought, oh, it was in that Ocado order that Josh left on the floor for eight hours.

On the heating. On the heating, yeah. There was nothing I could do. I literally was going from one thing to the other all day. Oh, and the Rice Krispies. So, you know, there was that massive huge box of Rice Krispies. Yeah, 1kg. We were making Rice Krispie cakes.

Yeah. And I often look at what the weight is for things, for like the best cost. Yeah. And the 1kg was the same price as 500 grams. So I thought, let's go with i also think but i genuinely hadn't really thought about how many rice krispies but in your defense on that also i don't think you should probably see the biggest and you think well that's the biggest rice krispies box i've ever

seen like that'll be the size of what i consider a big rice krispies box that one kg was bigger than i'd ever seen i've never've never seen them get that big. So you wouldn't presume that that was an option. I don't. If I was in a shop, I would never have bought that. I don't think it's available. When you're online, you're like, well, it's the same size. I've never seen it in a shop.

They wouldn't have it. Limited release. I would never have thought we would have made that many Rice Krispie cakes. A pair of Travis Scott trainers. Is there anything else, Rose, that's cropped up that you would like to bring up? Because he's looking a bit too relaxed for my liking. I was really trying to be organised about it and get time codes,

but I'm a bit more of the Rob Beckett, I think, in our relationship. Shoot from the hip. Order a mirror on a whim. Let it arrive whenever. Order a mirror on a whim. Order too many things in the Ocado order. There was something about wanting to talk to

me about my coffee routine oh you didn't you get fucked off with me about the journey into school and you decided to go my way basically just to teach me a lesson no that's that's you've absolutely you've absolutely show you who's boss yeah no it was when we you overruled ways i didn't overrule it i just said that my problem with ways is that it gives you it's a computer and it will say oh it's three minutes quicker and it just goes up as well like i think i don't like sitting in traffic and ways will send us the sitting in traffic way for some reason well what josh said was he knew that way was going to be longer and he was getting a sick kick out of you yeah i know i didn't say that that's where he gets his

kiss absolutely he was gleeful about the thought that we would go the way that i wanted to go and that we would get stuck for like hours what i meant was actually it's wrong and i think we all do this in situations i think it's much easier to be the person whose way is not chosen so it wasn't that i wanted it to go wrong it's that i didn't want to choose my way and then that go wrong because then you're in the wrong. But you enjoyed it going wrong. No, I didn't say that. That says a lot about our relationship. No, but I do that. It's for instance...

One nil widder, you said under your breath. You went one nil widders. Let's put you in a situation, yeah? You and Lou can't decide over which restaurant to go to. They could both be shit. Or you'd prefer to go to Lou's option

because then you're in a win-win because either it's a good restaurant or if it's bad. Lou has never chosen a restaurant in her life. She would refuse to choose because she can't handle the pressure. Exactly. Doesn't want the ball in the centre of the pitch.

Yeah, I don't want... I don't want the pressure of choosing the route to be on my shoulders. Yeah. When Rose has already decided it's the wrong route. Yeah. Because I'm in a no-win there. Yeah. I don't think i decided that it was the wrong route i just thought oh we're gonna sit in that traffic again and i hate i just hate based on the one time you got caught in

traffic in one spot which means you now avoid that spot forever well no i mean that one time was like a bit of a weird situation. It is. I mean, I can't believe we're getting really, really bogged down by the traffic issues on the Hackney Road. Personally, I'm loving it. The more detail, the better for me. It's that bit at the end of Victoria Park Road where it joins Cambridge Heath Road. If you want detail.

No, full details. Okay. What's your problem with the way Rose drinks coffee I haven't got a problem with the way Rose drinks coffee have I yeah you said

that she sort of just indulges in it and just sort of sits there drinking it rather than just getting it down her neck and cracking on you said that is absolutely fair

like I have one coffee a day and I want to sit and enjoy it yeah and Josh gets to go upstairs and get changed for the second time in the day or go to the toilet for about 20 minutes. I put on shorts and a t-shirt to go down and make you a cup of tea in the morning.

Am I not allowed to then get changed into normal clothes? So what's your issue with the clothes, Rosie? Josh will often just get up and put on shorts. Because I've got to go make the tea you make that sound like I'm like get up

make me tea you what's the reason that you stay in bed you're not making the tea what's the reason you stay in bed tell Rob

what's the reason because the cat is asleep on my back I mean that cat would be picked up thrown out the front door I go alright then I'll get rid of the cat.

It's genuinely my favourite part of the day. With the cat sleeping on your back. The cat comes in and sits on my back and it's really relaxing. Oh, I'd hate that. It's so nice. You said he goes down in a shorts and t-shirt and he's downstairs. You go downstairs and then when you're getting the kids ready, he has to go back up to get dressed.

So I need to dress. I need to, when we to i need to when we're going down to make the tea dress for my one outfit of the day that's not allowed to change you're on qr later you're getting your qi out yeah i need to get a steamer out do my shirt i think just something that you could like trousers maybe that you could leave the house in rather than like oh i just gotta go upstairs and get changed and you're like trousers maybe that you could leave the house in rather than like oh i just got to go upstairs and get changed and you're like right okay does it take long to get changed when he goes up is he a slow dresser i have to brush my teeth and stuff because i'm not doing any of

that can i just say that that is a classic there isn't it it's like i have to brush my teeth that that's just a thing that happens that's not a thing to mention I've got to brush my teeth I've got to wipe my arse now when am I meant to do it so busy when am I meant to do it straight after you have a shit no but I mean I can't do all of this

before going downstairs for the first time I get up and I go into the bathroom and I brush my teeth and I put on all of my clothes like I don't go

oh my god I've got to brush my teeth I've got to get up maybe you haven't got someone with a cat on their back working for a cup of tea you're just jealous because she won't sit on your back that's not the reason oh dear i'm enjoying this yeah what's the next one oh i just thought of one then no notes that's the worrying thing do you know what i mean this does show me not in a

great lot either is that. I now can't... Oh, no, I have. I wrote them down in my actual notes. What do they say? Yeah, even I, even as the Rob Beckett of the Rob Beckett relationship, I still write down notes for the podcast. I'm not that loose. I don't normally do podcasts, so...

Oh, no, that wasn't a criticism, but I'm saying, even I can't remember. I forget what's happened. I mean, maybe I'm now just drifting into... Slacking him off. Not a problem for me. Or anyone else. So going back, I mean, we are essentially going back to Waze and the Hackney Road.

But if we're ever, I'm so sorry, if we're ever running late... Hang on. This was meant to be things that he said that maybe factually, you're just going, this is what I don't like about you. Because to be fair, I actually think that Josh, it was quite difficult because you are pretty accurate about stuff. But I think what happens is that, like I was saying, is that things that are quite small become, because you're doing a podcast, they become quite massive.

So what's the ways thing so if we're running late for school you'll be like you need to call the school and this could be because ways yeah that's fine but this could be like because ways is clocking up its minutes so i every single time i've had to call the school to say we're going to be late we then arrive and you go oh we're three minutes early so like every time what was the damage though well i'm on rose's side here where if they're going to be late let them be late you don't need to call it early when you're definitely not going to be late if it's drop them off at nine and it's one minute past nine ring them up and go sorry we're still in traffic but calling it early and it's fine if you call it early and you're doing it but rose basically has to go we're gonna be late and then ring back and

go no we weren't and it makes rose that's clear when we turn up we don't need to my view is it's better to get the phone call done when we're sat stationary in traffic then that's in the bag rather than when we're rushing at the other end anyway yeah but i'm saying that's fine if you want to do it i can't legally you can it's free i can't work out how to get my phone to log up okay well how about next time rose just presses a button on the car for you and i think there's also an element that josh knows i'm really bad train you to be good at phone yeah well that's it i don't need you to train me like i'm really bad train you to be good at phone yeah well that's it i don't need you to train me i'm really bad at making phone calls i hate terrible making phone calls or picking up the phone so i know that when he does that there's an element of like go on then make no that's

training her next rose doesn't like making official phone calls I'd say Lou doesn't either yeah so Rose would say should we just email them that's not yeah just how's that the option or if like Rose doesn't want a phone say say someone was coming around say someone had gone to the shop to get some beers yeah and we wanted some crisps we hadn't asked them yeah but rose didn't want to call them yeah she'd go well we'll text them it's exactly the same and you go it's not it's not it's time sensitive you've just got to pick that phone up and go yeah how has this happened no no no these are two separate things but that's something that winds me up with Lou that she never rings anyone

and would do that and then I'm like well they're not going to see the phone because if the phone rings they can answer it however making someone do a phone call about being late

when you're definitely not even going to be late do you know what I'll take that I'm never going to do that again oh okay alright this has gone well for you Rose that was easy

but it shows the other things are things i stand by and i imagine also next time when we don't call and then we are actually late there'll be a small victory for you exactly when when when when teach your lesson train her i'm trying to train her to be good at phone calls that was nice to be good at phone calls that was crazy to be good at phone calls what would you train Josh to do oh just like

remember things and like not leave things everywhere yeah I'm bad at that I don't know what I can do about that your wallet just pay attention more

I haven't had my wallet in about two months we went to we spent we had quite a flappy Sunday morning getting children to gymnastics. And there was a real classic, I'm going to go and get dressed during that bit.

I was in shorts and a t-shirt. Yeah, exactly. And it was one degree. What am I going to do? Why are you putting on shorts and a t-shirt when it's one degree? Because I'm going downstairs to make a cup of tea. I can't. I love the way you're blaming it on my tea.

Do you know what he needs? Some David Gandy loungewear. No, because I don't want to make a cup of tea. I can't. I love the way you're blaming it on my tea. Do you know what he needs? Some David Gandy loungewear. No, because I don't want to wear that to gymnastics. That's the perfect outfit. I tell you what, though, since doing the podcast. I don't know if you're doing gymnastics. No, but you're watching it. You're lounging.

He has really got into the tracksuit bottom since doing the podcast. I went out to gymnastics. I didn't come back till 6pm. I know, it's a lot of gymnastics, isn't it? Well, no, we went to a friend's house. Did you watch another children as well? No, we spent quite a lot of gymnastics, isn't it? No, we went to a friend's house. Did you watch another children as well? No, we spent quite a lot of time getting snacks and all that kind of stuff together.

And it was quite stressful. And then we get to the gymnastics and I've been carrying quite a lot of stuff because there's both children. Oh, physically, I thought you were talking like. The mental load. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah and then i say have you got the snack box just that one thing but i haven't been told to bring this but why do i need to tell you i've been carrying we've been carrying half the stuff each no you were carrying your tea

and then you pondered things and you were looking into space and you know you got into the car but then i was so annoyed about the snack box that you said should i go and get it and i was like yeah go and get it yeah but actually it was quite nice going to get it so i i didn't know i did that's why you gave him a nice little walk in the choir and then oh no it was the 20 minutes in the car there and packed so do you need to train Rose

to remind you about the snack box no I need to training training I'm going to train her up oh my god

it's really difficult to learn how to be if you don't remember things like keys it's like if you're bad at something can I take a photo stay exactly still when I like keys, it's like if you're bad at something, like imagine someone, Can I take a photo?

Stay exactly still, and I put it back there, where you think, we're warming my hand up on the radiator. What are you doing? Look, this is how a man has a conversation. I'll put that on Instagram,

the awkward body shapes of Josh. I was just enjoying the radiator. It's really difficult, if your mind doesn't work in a way, to try and train it the other way you're permanently surprised as well when these things happen you're like do you remember there was a time when you basically you left your phone in a taxi in a black cab and then you did find my iphone and got another black cab i found it on liverpool road yeah and you could see your phone in the cab

and then you had to come home again. Yeah, I went to Liverpool Road, you know, off Upper Street. Yeah. Where my iPhone was. There was a black cab parked locked up and I could see my phone on the back seat. But you couldn't find the driver. We didn't know which house he was in. I didn't know where he lived.

I'll put his note on his... I had to go into a pub and say, can I have a pen and paper? This is quite normal in our house, that kind of thing. Like, you're just permanently surprised by, oh my God, where's my wallet gone? Yeah, I can't do it. I just, my mind doesn't work like that.

And it's really difficult. Do you think though, this may be going a bit more deep, where like when you're like, you've calmed down now and you're a bit more present, you're aware of the moment rather than like, I've do this got to do that i think that's a really good point you're probably a lot of the time you're thinking about other stuff like what you've

got coming up or whatever that you're not thinking in the moment do i need the snack box yeah yeah you're like well i have to go there do the gymnastics get back go to the gig and all that stuff but now because you do seem a bit calmer now. Yeah, but I'm still losing stuff. Okay. Yeah. So it's not helped, annoyingly. It's really annoying.

Because you feel relaxed about losing it. Because I'm both really organised. Yeah, I was about to say, you are very organised. It's a really weird personality type. You're really organised. Like, you're very... All my letters are in folders and stuff. Really?

Yeah, he's much better at that kind of like before I went out with Josh I would not open bank statements or letters lose in charge of filing

okay there are five boxes of paper what do you mean I'll sort that out there's just all that

she says that so basically nothing's in order nothing's in the right place and then when the fifth box gets full there'll be a sixth that's how finally right well mine's filed by month and all that kind of stuff really so i'm really good so you haven't just got the look you are a bit nerdy as well yeah exactly but by rights i shouldn't be the kind of person that leaves my keys places yes but my head's in the clouds a bit yeah when you

were planning tom crane stag do you had i've never known the organization like it you had an excel document and you had like all the places all the possible bars and restaurants but then the backup bars and restaurants and like there was like a note about we didn't go to any of them but i'm fully aware of it but went to A&E didn't you yeah but I'm fully aware of it but I don't know what to do about it

it's like saying to someone who's bad at mental arithmetic get better at mental arithmetic get better at maths I leave

every cupboard drawer and door open that I've been through doing stuff yeah Lou's been very clear about that yeah and that's her biggest thing

but she can't really tell me off because I'm oblivious that I'm doing it if lou rung me and said what have you done that's annoying me in the house i'd think of like 15 other things and i and she'll say there's seven cupboards open but i don't see them open they've just they're gone because that does my head in as well like we're both quite similar in our level of like you can put up with so much untidiness and then one of us we can tell no you definitely there's like an occasional time when you're like can we we just need to tidy this area like or they'll be like you'll never directly say yeah you are right it's more like i'm about 25 of those freak outs freak outs oh it's a freak out is it it is yeah

and what's difficult about that is when the other one goes over the top yeah the person who hasn't gone over the top has got no warning

but suddenly you're being messy yeah suddenly you're in the wrong yeah Lou's just decided it's tidy time yeah

and you're like what now I'm like yeah she'll go why all these bags I thought we were just leaving bags in the corner at the moment but i i do think there is a tendency like you could probably put something in a weird place like there'll be something on like the shelf in the hallway and then it's almost like it just disappears and then it just will stay there

there's like some things that go places that you just don't even ever notice. Or the worst one is the washing that absolutely does my head in. What's that? You know, we were talking about how we, we've kind of fallen into these, like I do the washing, you do the bins.

God, I mean, how's that happen? I'll do the washing and then I'll put my washing away and Josh will just leave his clean washing in a basket. Not intentionally. It's a time thing. Oh, but it's so low down on your list of priorities, but it just means that we constantly have.

But it is so annoying. It's like, why am I bothering to do it? Like it just sits there in a basket. It's still washed. Just have some respect for the washing that's been done and put it away it's not a tiger like respect the effort of me a really difficult thing to get done and what episode was that in i think we're coming to the end of our time aren't we no we've got a bit longer haven't we i think how long have we done michael 33 minutes i think the thing is is you're not like a bad person you

know you don't really like exaggerate on things there's not much i just say on the washing thing oh god i'm never good luck i'm never sitting having a cup of tea and watching homes under the hammer rather than doing the washing it's because i'm when the washing doesn't go it's because i'm going through one of those periods where i feel like i'm just shuttle cocking between things i'd say that's fair wouldn't you yeah yeah sometimes I don't know I think that also comes down to it's a bit like

bit of an excuse the mad thing is I quite like it because you can just put on a podcast and put the washing away it's actually

it's not a task I have a problem with I'd much rather so you're saying Rose is lucky that you've left it to her to do no I've never left it to her to do no

no I think I did used to put your washing away No, I've never left it to her to do. No. No, I think I did used to put your washing away and then I was like, why? Why am I doing this? Yeah, I put my washing away. Oh, well done. Eventually. I think a good bit of training won't sort. Yeah, I can train you to put your washing away.

When did I turn into a wife whinging at somebody to put their pants away. The pandemic really brought us to this point. Evolve or die. But I think you're, I don't have like a long list of inaccuracies. I've got one thing. Yeah. Was the, I thought I'd love to hear your side of it,

was when Josh came home and realised there was an email in the outbox for the science museum trip. And he woke you up at 1am to tell you that he hadn't sent the email. Yeah, so that is a little bit what it's like being married to you. That was just unfortunate. Well, he always puts it in the outbox. Sorry, sorry, that was bad. I wish. For fuck's sake nothing a bit of training

i'm trying to train you that was so weird i'm trying to train you to make you better at phone calls oh my god I stand by it train help you get better it would have been such a better choice of words trying to build your confidence that's a bit patronising

trying to train you you Josh does this thing where when he comes back in the middle of the night maybe you don't do it as much as you used to

but you will talk to me like I'm awake and it's one in the morning and I'm fast asleep and you came in and there was not even a like hello or anything wake up before I've spoken you tell me that no actually yeah I have like a weird Pavlovian dog thing where on the last leg Fridays I will normally wake up maybe like 30 seconds before the car pulls up at the house.

Really? You just know, yeah. Like a cat, like sitting outside waiting for its owner to get off the train or something. Can you hear him being sick, walking to the front door? I get asked to do a circuit, beeping the horn first. But you do talk to me like I'm awake and I was fast asleep and you just came in and you went, the email hasn't sent, the email about the science trip. And I was like, oh, all right, hello. And then I was like, okay, well, maybe there'll be space,

thinking there's not going to be space, but we'll try in the morning. The thing is, you'd already told me that that email was in the outbox. Had I? Yeah. Why? Because I'd asked you, I'd said to you you because to be fair to josh he's very good at doing admin josh loves to set up a play date he likes to be involved with the school so before we doubled up i said have you let the school know about what days she's going to do

play i didn't say the outbox you know you didn't even know the outbox existed i swear you said oh i sent it but it's not hasn't. Because I remember being pissed off at you, thinking you knew that that hadn't sent. Why didn't you just check it? No, once previously, a different school email had got stuck in the outbox. So you did know the outbox exists. Do you do know how outbox exists? Is that interview with Boris Johnson?

No, I honestly, I... Honestly? I hadn't engaged I did know the outbox exists I've got that wrong but I never think to check the outbox

sorry I didn't know the outbox existed and then he's just sorry I didn't know when was the last time you used the email outbox well you don't

but you know it's there it's normally there if it's a big file or it goes there when you haven't got a signal yeah I found one there was the email there was also a file I tried to send to Michael

that never got sent as well. But I swear that one, I didn't know it was stuck in the outbox. Otherwise, I would have re-sent it. It was a different school email. There's something going on between my email and the school's email. Yeah, okay.

Let's forget about that. I don't care about that. I'm not your IT team. Yeah. But should I turn it off and on again? But what are you getting by waking rose up at that point because i hate unresolved things that i worry about right okay yeah you wouldn't have been able to go to sleep with that in your head a problem shared in this case is a

problem doubled yeah exactly anxiety breeds anxiety yeah but then what yeah we couldn't get her on the trip and then i had moved and cancelled quite a lot of things. A couple of things, not quite a lot of things. That sounds overly dramatic. And then suddenly there was a space and we had five minutes to get her to the school. And obviously she was like completely paralysed by indecision. But then we went to the school, she got on the trip.

So I could have done the things that I was, had cancelled. Did he make you ring up and cancel it all? A little bit of training? A little bit of training. No, I sent a text. Training's not paying off.

Double sessions next week. Oh God. What a theme that that is running through the podcast. The training josh likes everything to work smoothly and efficiently in both areas of his life but then you did afterwards to be fair say to me oh god i'm really sorry this is kind of what it's like isn't it being with me and i was like oh yeah yeah but that's fine it's just but it all worked out it did work out yeah it did but I had cancelled two things

but what can you do that genuinely wasn't my fault that outbox thing unless every email I send I now check the outbox for the record

did you know the outbox is this before the sciences I never think about the outbox that's not what you said no I was wrong I misposted on that you misled parliament

you misled parliament yeah well let's wait for the full outcome of the inquiry before we comment the other thing i want to talk to you about is about this is what i mentioned at the start i feel like josh is potentially a little bit worried about turning 40 there's a lot of stress in his face when i mentioned his 40th yeah There's also been a lot of chat that he's going to have a complete overhaul of image. And I've heard blazers and chinos be mentioned. Yeah. We've, there's a lot of talk about.

Image. Yeah. Smartening up. Smartening up. Smartening up. Yeah. Well, I bought Josh a jacket for Valentine's day.

Just a very nice Mac from Uniqlo. Yeah. A Navy Mac. I actually stopped a man in the street asking where he got his jacket from nice very confident yeah i think the training is paying off i'm very face to face i'm very good thank god i didn't phone him um i did i do i was chatting him up as well because i kept staring him and then i thought oh this is i've got to ask about the jacket now because otherwise he thinks I'm checking him out I bought you a jacket and I think it's kind of given you a bit of inspiration really for your wardrobe and yeah it sort of pushed you into a new direction yeah so how smart do you want him Rose or is this a very Josh project it's not just going to be just smart it's just just to give more range. We went away and we did spend quite a lot of time talking about this

because Josh loves a project. If there's something... He's not got enough on his plate at the moment. He's got so much free time. Yeah, he's got... He needs something else to do when he's brushing his teeth, putting the shopping away, going on Peston. He really loves to hypothesise about how something's going to go.

So he'll be like, so how do you think... go so he'll be like so how do you think what do you think about that how do you think that's gonna go like he'll ask you a lot of times yeah and we talked a lot about project wardrobe it's got a name project wardrobe i didn't know that no i just made that up i like it i just made it up i don't know when this will go out but you're gonna wear one of your smart outfits on last leg aren't you yeah by this point yeah yeah it's a gradual evolution or revolution do you know what from an outsider's point of view yeah i would get rid of the converse and get maybe a nicer trainer or a shoe like sort of semi smart casual the reason we're in the converse today

it's okay you don't have to apologize but go on is because i've got some nicer nikes but I really like them but they've stopped making them so you don't want to waste them on Broadway I don't want to waste them on same five

something where my feet would be out of shot okay so they're going to save them for your next stand up appearance or whatever yeah yeah whatever that be

whenever he stood up I'm convinced that Josh buys Converse with like extra long laces as well I know you've talked about this before, but it is mad how long those laces are.

Or pulls them tight and he has them for so long. My mum's always found his footwear disgusting. I know, it really makes me laugh. Yeah, I think there may be a shoe. I think a shoe or a smart trainer. And I think potentially stripy t-shirts out, block colour. I like the range. I like to have the range.

Yeah, but I think stripy t-shirt is more younger person children and women i'm still young and happening i feel like a stripy t-shirt is old sailor i'm still young and happening you're 40 and i'm fine you look like a pizza express chef it's a good chain it is a great chain i love that we've just turned this into like a josh styling session but perhaps different colors that maybe he hadn't really gone near before green a green he wore a lovely orange jacket the other day and i was like oh you look good in an orange but it's almost like he's come out of a breakup and he's like you know when you've split up with someone and you get your hair cut well i think maybe you were in a bit of a rut of work where you didn't have time to think about it. Yeah, exactly.

Put on a blue jacket, white stripy top, I'm going to do telly. That is totally it. I think there's also, because you get a lot of your clothes bought for wardrobe for The Last Leg, you don't have the joy of going out and choosing your own clothes. Whereas, I think you talked about it, we both gave each other an afternoon off and Josh went out and just did a little bit of like gentle shopping lovely sent me a picture of himself in a blazer and i thought good for him

and i said go on hush puppies just the blazer i don't think i'm having a reaction to being 40 yeah i think i've hit a point in my life but it's a coincidence that I'm turning 40 in the middle of it however that's fine can I ask because you mentioned about a date ages ago you literally said save the date I'm going to have a party you can't mention the actual party he's going to get

flippers on you I didn't even ask I went oh are you turning 40 you went yeah me and Rose both are you've quite grown up and just gone, I'm having a little drinks or whatever and sent a text. You told me to save a date, which I did. I'll be coming straight after.

I've been on Saturday night takeaway of Ant and Dec. Yeah, I don't think you will be. No, because you're not doing anything. But when I asked, before you went on and did a gig the other day, 2,000 people in the theatre on a Saturday night, calm as a cucumber. I said, are you still doing that on the first?

He went bright red, started sweating and clapping his hands. Yeah, I don't know. I just can't engage with it. But it's partly because I'm trying to stop drinking. Yeah. So it's really difficult to go, do I really want to pay to rent a bar, pay to put money behind a bar,

to put myself in a tricky situation where I'm like, oh God, am I going to get through this without drinking yeah there's been recently as well like when you stop drinking there's been a lot of like times where you're like their first times where you're not drinking or where you would initially feel like oh i want to drink and then you kind of work through it and you're like oh that moment has passed yeah and i think maybe a big party yeah it's a lot of anxiety it's quite a big challenge to go in when you've kind of just started doing it everyone's gonna be like why don't you drink yeah there's a lot and also you're in a process of calming down being more mindful

more present yeah that might trigger those sort of old behaviors yeah totally why don't you just spend it on a big holiday for you and the family any money you're gonna spend on that and that'll be your fault if that's what i do now i don't really have we it on a big holiday for you and the family? Any money you're going to spend on that, and that'll be your 40. If that's what I'd do now, I don't really have parties. We could just go away for Easter, couldn't we? Yeah. As a four. That'd be lovely. Yeah, that would be nice.

I could see on Rose's eyes the first thing she thought was that her mum would be livid if we didn't spend Easter with her. Would she? That was the first thing that went across Rose's face. Easter's a strange one. Are you religious? No. She fucking loves eggs. Egg rolling a strange one. Are you religious? No. She fucking loves eggs.

Egg rolling. Have you ever done egg rolling? What's an egg rolling? No, it's the thing no one's ever done except their family. Oh, okay. Let's get into this. So you boil the eggs and you wrap them in... Can't do that.

Lou will fuck that up. That's over. You wrap them in onion leaves and J-cloths and basically... You must know this tradition. What the fuck is this? Like Jesus used to. And I'll give you the Hob know this tradition. What the fuck is this? Like Jesus used to. And I'll give you the Hobbit back now. What the fuck's this shy nonsense?

And it basically gives the eggs like all these amazing patterns from the dye of the onion leaves. The dye of the onion leaves? This is like nothing... They boil them in onion leaves. Yeah. And it creates like

kind of almost like a tie-dye effect on the outside. On an egg. Okay, that's a bit of fun. Okay, and then what you do is they're hard-boiled. So there's two of you. Not just two of you. There's more of you. Everyone has an egg okay that's a bit of fun okay and then what you do is they're hard boiled so there's two of you not just two of you there's more of you everyone's has an egg and then you roll eggs at each other and whoever's egg doesn't smash like conquers gets into the next

round round but the problem with it is is that essentially you forget whose egg is whose and everyone's egg just smashes sure and there's only like my mum that really eats hard-boiled eggs so there's just fuck loads of hard-boiled eggs that my mum has to eat and then what's the prize no that's just it there's no prize no you just smash it you get to eat your egg your hard boiled egg on a day whenever I've got chocolate eggs this is the worst game ever yeah

so basically the winner gets a hard boiled egg and everyone else has to have and so do the losers and the losers so everyone gets a hard boiled egg yeah this is

bros this is one of the most mental things I've ever heard it's fucking bananas Michael's really Michael's gone Michael's gone Michael's lost it

I think he's lost feeling in his arse he's sat on the floor for an hour my mum you wouldn't want to miss that would you and have a holiday

my mum gets so annoyed if we don't do the egg rolling as well if the eggs get boiled with the onion skins and we don't make a fuss out of them

we know about it I'd say for her 40th could she not roll a boiled egg the weekend later? No, that's a no, isn't it, Josh? That's a no. Enjoy your egg roll in your 40th. There you go. There you go.

That's where he'll be. That's my life. Rolling his fucking egg in his new canvas shoes. You don't even eat eggs. I don't eat eggs. It's a lose-lose for Josh. god what a life could you go away somewhere your mum goes as well and then wait and then she looks after the kids while you go out it's the evening no my mum is amazing but she is just her so Pearl and nearly two year old is quite a lot

even if they're put into bed she could do with our daughter but I think we made a bit of a this is what I wanted to do is go well Rose is 40 this year so we'll have a party for that and then I'm going to have a big 41st

do that then and then I said this to our friend. Our friend who listens. Oh, yeah. And she absolutely. She wanted a party. Yeah. All right.

Charlie Crosby. She wants a party for hers? No, for mine. She was like. Tell her to get her fucking nose out. It's your birthday. She got stupid. I was like, don't worry.

I've got this great plan. I'm going to do a 41st. And she acted like I'd just taken a shit in the middle of the ABBA voyage. A hologram shit. Yeah. Well, maybe do that then. That could be a good shout and do it separate. I just don't feel like a 40th is what I need at the moment.

I think that's really good as well, because I think old you would have absolutely just pushed through that and done it because you were like this is what I'm supposed to do when I hit 40 and you wouldn't have stopped to think is this actually what I need at the moment is this the right thing to do what am I going to enjoy so I have wrenched you on this a bit on this podcast but I will say that you're becoming a lot more aware of what's good for you. You're training me. I'm training you.

Life's training you baby. Life's training me. I think that's quite a sweet ending actually. Yeah, that was quite good. That was funny. Did you enjoy that? There was a point where I was like,

Oh, maybe I should have more things to batter you with. I think you've got enough. Yeah. I don't think there's any worry about that. I wouldn't say. was a point where i was like oh maybe i should have more things to batter you with but i think you've got enough yeah i don't think there's any worry about that i wouldn't say my take home i wouldn't say that was light on views i feel like there was quite a lot of chat about ways yeah yeah there was a lot of ways chat we didn't really get to the bottom of who was nobody yeah who was it i don't think it's all about who's to blame it's about how you move on afterwards i also feel that i which direction you move on afterwards exactly which route you take afterwards i do get a bit stressed i get overly stressed sitting in traffic as well i will

take that which is rich when you're not even the driver oh yeah of course we had to get one little you can't drive slamming oh we had to i tried to end it positively but you are gonna learn to drive this year that's exciting yeah yeah that is exciting i'm 40 quick there was a point where you were i mean it was probably years ago you were like you should learn to drive on a manual no and then now you're like no no just don't worry about it yeah not worth it that shows how long we've been having this i know i can't tell you how many times my dad said i'll get you driving lessons for your birthday yeah and i just never cashed them in yeah i did it one year as well yeah for christmas yeah oh yeah you bought me a little book yeah little training no there was like an antique book about cars it was an antique

for knick knack nice little knick knack book for the side it was a knick knack book for the parcel shelf oh thank you so much Rose you are welcome on

any time obviously to air any views as long as it's not during book promo season in which case we don't have any guest gaps then right

it was like that time when I got caught in the snow and I had to get the bus and push the buggy and stuff when i was texting josh in the back of my mind was this is the podcast this me texting i know that i am now content you are content content yeah oh god you know what's worrying though it's not going to be long until our children are going to be sat where you're sat, telling us off for saying things.

Yeah. Oh God. That could be problematic. Still, the listener amounts will be through the roof. Yeah, exactly. It's all content, isn't it? Content. Well, thank you for doing it.

Pleasure. Thanks, Rose. It's been amazing. Thanks for coming on. Cheers. And we'll see you in a couple of months. Oh, wait. Hold up. Do you not do those final questions? Oh, if you want. thanks Rose it's been amazing thanks for coming on cheers and we'll see you in a couple of months oh wait hold up

do you not do those final questions oh if you want if you've got something you want to say what it feels like we've covered those

oh yeah no to be fair you've probably covered them no no you've said nothing positive what's the nice

thing that just I did think about this this morning and I think you are and actually I think I already said it so maybe this is a bit boring but

you are really good at being involved as you should be as they're both our children but you do play dates you're really organized with that kind of stuff whereas i'm find that quite nerve-wracking that kind of stuff so you're really good at kind of putting yourself out there and i am i'll send a text you'd answer a phone call in a heartbeat oh i love it i love ringing people but i'll text a mom i don't really know to organize a play it's a bit weird that is a bit weird he's in his shorts 7 a.m making a tea i make a good tea you know fancy a play date babe anyone need training just send that send to all training i do think though by being a stand-up we have gone through so much social humiliation learning to do stand-up yeah that someone

ignoring my text that's a school parent i could not give a less of a shit about i did a corporate gig last night and it didn't get a laugh and then the bloke who works for the company went that didn't get laughed rob went i know it didn't but i'm technically dead inside so i didn't get a laugh and then the bloke who works for the company went that didn't get a laugh Rob went I know it didn't but I'm technically dead inside so I didn't really hear it and it still got a laugh but then everyone realised I was being honest and he'd say

oh stop laughing well I mean we could dig further into why Lou and I probably don't like answering phone calls but we'll leave that

to another episode yeah leave that to another episode I think this has been brilliant and thank you very much for sharing. Thanks, Rose. Bye. That was Rose. Yeah.

How did you find it, Josh? I think I took points on board, which I think is positive. Yeah, I'd say as well, you stood your ground on a couple of them, which I liked. Yeah, exactly. Good back and forth exactly i think it showed

i thought it showed a healthy relationship with both parties having respect for the other yes it feels a bit like how i imagine two politicians would analyze their appearance on good morning britain yeah exactly pretty good bit of back and forth suzanne is a good woman good journalist respect respect the work there yeah and, you know, it's a great time for a democracy that we can do these kind of things. Yes. You wouldn't get that in other regimes. You would not get that, yeah. Let's not name them.

Let's not piss off the regimes. Yes. But, I mean, I think it's good. I enjoyed when Lou did it. I enjoyed it when Rose did it more. It's always less stressful when you're on the other side of it. Yeah, definitely. Definitely.

And yours was face-to-face, which made it different because it was when we're on the other side of it yeah definitely and yours was face to face which made it different because it was when we were filming due to the success I think we'll lose it back on next really isn't it the success of this we mean we'll get them both back on so lose up next we'll get them on

intermittently to complain about what we've said in the podcast and just us generally. And just us generally. So that's something to look forward to. Right. Um, I'll see you on Tuesday,

Josh. See you on Tuesday. Bye. Bye.