Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S6 EP24: Fin Taylor

Episode Date: March 31, 2023

 Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant comedian - Fin Taylor. Tickets are available for Fin's 'The Daddy Self-care' now, and check out the amazing 'Fin vs The Internet' series. @fintaylorcomedy Thanks, Rob + Josh. We're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK? Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there... ON SALE NOW  14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena 19th April 2023 - Nottingham 20th April 2023 - Cardiff  21st April 2023 - London (The O2) 23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley) 28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena  If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] TWITTER: @parenting_hell INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Whittacombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or, hopefully, how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with advice and of course tales of parenting woe because let's be

honest there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing hello you're listening to parenting hell with say rob beckett and can you you say Josh Widdicombe? Josh Widdicombe. And Michael? Michael. Well done. I like that. That's good, wasn't it? That's a very strong, confident middle-class family.

Well, he did a start, hey slags, love the pod. Yeah, but he's been sort of post, like, laddie culture ironic, isn't he? I've been listening since the start and tried for the past two years to get one of these. Fortunately, my daughter was in a good mood this week and went for it. Adding Michael helped. Hope he appreciates the shout out. See you guys in a few weeks. Straight after my son's birthday party.

Not sure what I'm more excited about. Keep it sexy and relatable. Adam, stiff neck. You were right. 480 months. And Juliana, loose neck. 32 months. Living in London.

He says he's seeing us. He's at the tour, I assume? He's not just going to turn up at our house? Yeah, I'd hope so. Josh, you know, I'm sort of like the slightly more... I feel like I'm slightly neurotic at points, but I'm a little bit more laid back at the pair of us when it comes to work commitments, aren't I?

I think a little bit is probably kind to me. Okay, well, I don't know if this is going to help your headspace, but I watched that national lottery bbc musicals show have you seen that one jason manford hosts no no it's on bbc one they just do loads of different shows from musicals so there'll be an arena full of fans of musicals and then he brings them all out like a big sort of package show of different there was matilda all stuff like that and they did a bit like the royal variety when they bring out manford's there he sort of obviously sings in the middle.

He loves it. Do you know what? I love Manford. He just loves it. He's up there. He loves it. Quality jokes. Just banging out a song.

See you later. He's so smiley. Anyway, he just made me laugh how much he was enjoying it. But they did a wide shot of Manchester Arena and my head completely went... Because I was like, fucking hell, look how big it is. We've got to do our show in there. It's mental, Rob.

It's so big. I've been to Manchester Arena three times and I've seen Radiohead, The Manic Street Preachers and Coldplay. Many laughs? No, absolute pompous bunch of wankers. What's the crowd patter like there between those three? I don't remember Radiohead being a laugh If I had to get one of those on the show

Yeah For a laugh, I think the Mannix would be the funniest Really? I'd say Chris Martin Anyway, my head completely went And she went, what's going on? I went, Lou, my head's gone, look how big that is She went, why does it matter to you? I went, that's the room me and josh are doing in manchester

she went fuck off and i went yeah and she went oh yeah i wouldn't want to do that that does look scary is that not the right answer you should say don't worry it'll be great so you know they've like we started with 300 seats and they've eased it up there is a slight jump yes so we're easing it in and then we're doing 1 500 and then we go into the one in manchester which is 12 000 it's more than 12 000 i think isn't it oh for fuck's sake 14 000 oh god because barnard castle was about 100 and then it slowly increased and then we did canterbury which was about 900 and then we're going up to brighton which is 1500 then it's quite a big jump isn't it because it's the equivalent 10 times the size isn't it so it's 10 times the size so yeah be

fine just more people to laugh isn't it exactly rob just more people to anyway so a joke is a joke whatever room you're in rob but i think as well i've not been very well so you know you feel vulnerable you're not well so So I had to ring the doctors this morning, Josh, to get an appointment because I've got an infected, I think an infected toenail, which is disgusting, isn't it?

Oh God. I've got a sore toe and also I've got this sinusitis that I had before but I can't get rid of. I think I might have chronic sinusitis. My mother-in-law's got that.

You've been snogging my mother-in-law? Well, not recently, no. I've been snogging her chronically. But I sort of got rid of it. I had antibiotics and it sort of went. And then I went to Korea. I've just got back from Korea.

I was filming in Korea and it got really bad in Korea. And I was basically just like filming and then getting drunk after filming because it was to deal with the jet lag. To stop the pain. Well, more to deal with the jet lag. So rather than going to sleep at six o'clock and then waking up at 2am, if you go out on a night out,

you can sort of have a drink and stay awake. And then the sinusitis got really bad. And it's so far career. It's like seven hours to Abu Dhabi, then 10 hours from Abu Dhabi. And I Googled it and I said, what helps? And I've been working nonstop recently. And I Googled what helps sinusitis?

Like, and he said, you must rest i was like well i'm not really doing that no flying i've just done 17 hours no drinking just done six pints i was like i was like i've done everything wrong and then obviously it got really bad they'd have to fly back and then it got bad again so i think i might need some i rang the doctors josh to get an appointment you have to ring at eight but i couldn't ring at eight because i was busy i rang And then it got bad again. So I think I might need some, I rang the doctors, Josh, to get an appointment. You have to ring at eight, but I couldn't ring at eight because I was busy. I rang at 8.30 and I managed to get an appointment for five to three in the afternoon.

That's pretty good, right? And she said, can I take your name? Yeah. What's the matter? And I said, I've got an infected toe and I've got sinusitis that I just can't shift. And she went, right. And then I also tried some banza and she

said that's the worst thing about you no i went i've got a sore toe i've got sinusitis i can't shift and i've got two small children but i don't think you've got anything that can help with that really nice yeah just a bit of fun just a little bit of classic dad joke absolutely and i just saw because doctors receptionists they hold a lot of power don't they and I just thought let's try and get her on side I said that complete silence to the point where

I thought the phone had gone and she went pardon oh no don't don't repeat it in that situation and she went pardon you didn't

what was the message a poorly tow yeah a poorly tow and some sinusitis I don't know no you didn't you didn't

no you went in't you went in again and two small kids I don't think you've got much to go oh god and then she said I thought you said that oh fuck fucking Nora

yeah yeah yeah you were right I did say that she went okay well I'm going to put down poorly toe because you can't go in for two things. Put down sinusitis. Don't put down poorly toe because you're not a Victorian child. I know, but I can't walk at the moment. I'm hobbling.

So I thought toe. What do you go for? Sinusitis, have a time. Yeah, so are you going to try and sneak in the second one? I think it's easier to sneak in sinusitis because it's more obvious right away if i go with sinusitis and he goes right okay and then i'll start taking my socks off and not going have a look at that what do you recommend yeah i lead with the toe

poorly isn't he so lead with toe okay yeah i've got a bit of sore toe i might need some antibiotics also yeah and just start coughing and stuff but please don't take up the whole appointment talking about this please yeah i just say like i'm gonna talk to you about my sore toe but please don't take up the whole appointment talking about this please yeah I'll just say like I'm going to quickly tell you about my sore toe

and then in the three minutes left can we talk about my sinusitis or I'm trying to tell him about the toe but I'll keep coughing and blowing my nose

yeah that's a good idea so what's happened to the toe so I sort of I cut it a bit on the nail I caught it on something and then I've been

walking loads and it's sort of irritated a bit and then when I was filming Romesh i went for like this oh god this traditional korean scrub i'm not sure about how often that water gets changed in this bath so i don't know if that's helped it so i'm in the wars josh but i'm plowing on you're doing a lot of walking i'm doing a lot of walking romesh just got in my head actually rob he said you've got to do 10 000 steps a day he said that's the absolute key which is fine that's the absolute key right he also goes to the gym six times a day now does he six times not six times a day six times a week that'd be insane i was gonna say

my 10 000 steps aren't gonna help if he's going to the gym well he does everything six times a day he does telly different tv shows and the gym but in Korea Josh Google Maps don't work so if you want to find somewhere it tells you where it is but it won't tell you how to walk there why not

because of only maps are only allowed to be on domestic servers not international ones because of North Korea I imagine I don't know

because of North Korea I tried to get the subway because my foot was hurting I tried to get the tube in Korea and in Korea there are no westerners it's like proper there's not much tourism it's not a huge holiday hotspot soul is it honestly i saw a ginger man walk past and i did a double take i was like what

is that because everyone was just korean right and you go up to him and go please help me please be my friend it's weird actually so you see a Westerner there. It's a little bit like, hello, here we are. Yeah. What are we like, Dave? What the fuck are you doing here? What are we fucking like in Korea, me and you, eh?

It was just all Koreans. Ramesh saw one other South Asian person, one Indian man, gave Ramesh a high five. But he was very just Korean. There's not many tourists there. Yeah. I tried to get the tube, Josh.

It was so stressful. Yeah. I went down there and I knew what station I wanted to get off and I tried to buy a ticket on my. It was so stressful. Yeah. I went down there and I knew what station I wanted to get off and I tried to buy a ticket on my card. It wouldn't let me.

So then I had to go and get cash out but nothing's in English. I'm sort of just guessing at it, right? Yeah. Because I'm like, let's not be British about this.

Let's go out and explore this new place. Come on, Rob. Yeah, yeah. Sure, you've travelled. You've been bettered all but now you're in Sarnie. Accept it.

So, oh mate, so anyway, I was really proud of myself so I bought the ticket eventually literally took me 15 minutes got on the subway had to go three stops got off no wi-fi because my 3g weren't working so I got off the train I found the station and then everything's in Korean right everyone's Korean bastards I'm just like I've got there is no plan b josh if this ticket doesn't work anyway i've bought the right ticket so i'm like yeah and i put it on the little uh machine to go through the barriers and it flashes green and i tell you what when you are traveling somewhere where you know no language and it's not salvatores red and green really helps you out red and green is the universal go and stop and it just yeah red and green was basically all i had in my locker put my ticket on there my korean oyster card thing and it flashed

green i went you've nailed this rob well done go to go through can't what i've done is i've opened up the barrier next to the one i'm trying to go through so now i've used my ticket up and i've and i'm panicking. Turn around, everyone's Korean. Everyone doesn't want to know. And I'm like, oh God. Are you on your own? Yeah.

Then I saw this little white blonde Westerner come up and I said, hello. She said, hello. And she was German, but spoke English. And I said, I've done it wrong. I don't know what to do now. Cause I've put it on here. And she went, what have spoke English. And I said, I've done it wrong. I don't know what to do now because I've put it on here. And she went,

what have you done? And then I showed her. Then as I explained to her, she copied me. I locked her out as well. What? No. So now we're both out.

Oh no. Oh my God, Rob. I know. And then we're both trying to find someone to help. And then now we're wandering around like we're a couple. Everyone just assumes we're together because we're white

that was awful and then eventually we waved at this woman in a red tabard I just I just put my hands up like a prayer just said

please and she laughed and let me through because on the tip I had if I'd bunked it I'd basically bunked a 40p fare two stops

do you know what I mean it weren't like a great crime. Yeah, yeah. But yes, it was quite tiring being in Korea. It's a cool place though, but... Yeah. I think the odds are against me ever going to Korea probably. Well, we'll see.

I can't see a scenario. We'll see. When we do our final episode as I'm dying, we can go, just to recap, I didn't go to Korea. Okay, cool. I'll look forward to that. When do you... About six years' time, is that? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the way I'm feeling, we can go, just to recap, I didn't go to Korea. Okay, cool. Look forward to that. When do you, what, about six years time, is that? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, the way I'm feeling. Yeah. Apologies for the Korea divergent and divergent. Is that right? Or is that a COVID term? I can't remember. Diversion. Diversion.

Anyway, we'll be back to Tales from Parenting on Monday. Oh, I've got some big old tales. Oh, good. Got a tale about non-uniform day. Got a tale about a tooth coming out. Oh, and what about the kids? we'll be back to tales from parenting on Monday oh I've got some big old tales oh good got a tale about non-uniform day got a tale about a tooth coming out oh and what about

the kids here we go here we go also I've got a tale about a hangover that is one of the worst unjust things that's ever happened

okay I've loved these good teasing Josh we'll do that on Tuesday yeah but for now we've got an incredible guest

Finn Taylor absolutely brilliant trigger warning there is discussion of premature birth and premature babies. Yes. Is that the way you say it? I think it probably is.

It's quite a stressful story of the birth. But yeah, Finn Taylor, very funny and very interesting story. But yeah, if you're not up for a premature baby chat, probably give this one a swerve. Yeah. Go and listen to A. Carsten Gamble talking about naan bread or whatever.

This is Finn Taylor. Hello and welcome to the podcast, Finn Taylor. Comedian, parent, coffee drinker. Yes, guilty on all fronts. Hand me in. What would you describe yourself as first? In order. Wreck, I'd say. I'd say sort of husk. Well, you describe yourself as first? In order. Wreck, I'd say.

I'd say sort of husk. Well, you do look a little bit wired today. Are you all right? Is it been a stressful day? Well, it's because we're staying in a... We're having building work done because we bought a fixer-upper. Oh.

Because my wife... Well, that's the end of the sentence. Because my wife... She likes that sort of thing. Put your own stamp on it. Yeah, yeah. I'd just quite like a place to sit down in. The thing is, you're adding value, Finn.

Have you heard the phrase adding value yet? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me deal with that phrase, that concept. We bought it just before the whole Ukraine thing. So we're now just kind of trying to level out the mortgage increases that are going to hit us next year. Yeah.

So it means that the commute to nursery is like 35 minutes, 40 minutes in traffic. That was my life, Ben, for three years. So I'm getting up early, getting her in the car.

I'm just like passing snacks back sort of constantly. So you're further away from the nurseries you were then, now. Yeah, the nursery's at the end of our road where we live,

but we're in Tooting at the time being while the work's happening. Where do you live? Sydenham. Oh, really close. Yeah, I'm close. Everyone's coming south-east. It's the future, isn't it? Yeah.

Great sangeries you've got in Sydenham. Supposedly the biggest in the south-east. Oh, it's like a stand at a football stadium. It's got a lint door pick and mix. Oh, wow. Yeah, sushi. It's an unbelievable sangeries on a big round one-way system. I imagine the locals, sushi. It's an unbelievable sandwich. It's on a big round

one-way system. I imagine the locals didn't take kindly to the sushi counter. Rob, I imagine you all thought, so what's all this then? That kind of thing.

Yeah, I think it was a bit like that. It just looked like a fishmonger's having a breakdown. Just let him crack on. Don't know what he's up to. He keeps wrapping it

in rice. Tiny bits of ice. I've got to go back to this lint pick and mix. This is a Josh Widdicombe routine if ever I saw one. A lint door pick and mix in a Sainsbury's.

Yeah. No, I'm excited. Who's coming in the Sultan of Brunei? Wait there, let me get a pen and paper here. So, how many different types of lint

is there kicking around? Yeah. I'd probably say there are maybe seven or eight colours. Surely the red ones are lowest in stock. Do you think? I like the white. Yeah. Yeah.

You can tell a place is going up in value when the dark chocolate starts going. You know South East is getting gentrified because the fucking shit stuff is starting to sell. It's quite fun thinking what your routine would be, Josh, because I think you could do... I don't know if it is.

I think it's a character assassination. That's what it is, Ron. Because you could go, oh, is it like the king of Abu Dhabi and then do a dib-dab and bring back a bit of nostalgia with like an Abu Dib-Dab. Yeah.

Yeah, what I do is a piece of piss. That's what we get down to. It's fucking fish in a barrel, choose an old thing, take it apart, put in a funny reference, tour with your eyes dead. Okay, I actually did go

the wrong way. Finn, how are you? You alright? Yeah, well, I'm fine, actually, compared to Josh. Yeah, remarkably long fuse, it turns out. That's why most guests leave happy on this show.

Yeah. How old is your daughter? Well, listen, I've been saying 18 months for a few months now. Yeah, me too, yeah. I really resent the months thing. In my head, it should go one, one and a bit, 18 months, nearly two, two. Yes. You know when people, you say, how old is he?

And they're like, 22 months. And you go, I don't actually care. Like, why are you,. You know when people you say how old is he and they're like 22 months and you go I don't actually care. Do you know what I mean? It's normally because they say that because if they say two and a half and they're not at the developmental point they want them to be they don't want you to think they're kids slow. Yeah. So I've just been fudging for a while. I think

she'd be 20 months but because she was premature she's still actually 18 months technically. So I guess there is a bit of a fudge. It's like the aggregate away goals, this is. Yeah, it is. So how premature was she? Seven weeks. Fucking Nora.

Bloody hell. Spicy entry. Yeah, that is a spicy... That was the medical term. Three chillies. Did the doctor turn to you and go, I'm afraid this is going to be a spicy entry? This is not a lemon and herb birth, I'm afraid, sir.

This is Vesuvio. You're looking at a Diablo C-section. They had three little chillies on the whiteboard, yeah. So she has two ages until they're two, supposedly, where all the development, like, is caught up. So for the first seven weeks, you're like, well, that was a lot of fucking parenting to get to square one. Yeah, taking yourself out of a hole. Yeah, we were in a neonatal unit for, yeah, nearly two months. weeks you're like well that was a lot of fucking parenting to get to square one yeah taking

yourself out of a hole yeah we were in a neonatal unit for yeah nearly two months so let's go let's go from contractions yeah didn't get to them didn't get to contractions so what happened no so my wife had a thing called preeclampsia which is uh have you had anyone on do you guys you must be well versed in women's stuff preeclampsia i've is, have you had anyone on? Do you guys, you must be well-versed in women's stuff. Preeclampsia, I've heard of it, but I don't think we've had a guest talk about it. We've covered brevilles extensively. Brevilles?

Yeah. Is that past 35 weeks? I don't think we made it to brevilles. That's when they're overdue. Right, okay, you've got to get the brevilles out. She's absolutely brevilled out this one. Get her sweeping. Smoke them out.

Yeah, so preeclampsia, well, they don't really know much about it because obviously it's women's medicine. And they sort of seem to concentrate on prostate cancer and veterinary science more than they do women's medicine. But it's something to do with a placenta. Right. And it basically, the only cure is delivering the baby. Right.

Fuck. Lucky she was pregnant then. Well, yeah. It would have been a real job to go back nine months or seven months. I mean, I would have done it. But anyway.

Yeah, so she just kind of started swelling up. I mean, they missed it. The problem was that normally what happens is if you get preeclampsia, they like, they catch it because your blood pressure goes up

and then you're on bed rest basically while the baby carries on growing and then they deliver close to term. They catch it because your blood pressure goes up. And then you're on bed rest, basically, while the baby carries on growing. And then they deliver close to term. But because they missed it, they still don't really know why. But anyway, she was really swollen, like swollen face and ankles and hands. And how long for?

Like for months? Well, no. She always had quite a bad carpal tunnel with the hands. Because it was her first pregnancy, I was like women get big don't they so i i you know you don't want to you don't want to you can't bring it up you already go bloody out look at you you're glowing you're glowing glowing you are three times the size but you're glowing more of a kind of chernobyl glow than a one but it's fine isn't it you yourself. You're the hype man, aren't you? You've got to support them. Yeah.

You know, it turns out that was quite wrong with her. And we went for a, in hindsight, quite a bad idea. We went for a sort of little pre-baby holiday in Cornwall.

And she had a funny turn. I mean, she's also, she's type 1 diabetic. Went to Liscard instead of St Ives. There you go. Oh, lovely stuff. Lindor's back stuff Lindor's back

Lindor's back he's back in the room this is his wheelhouse funny place names here I am thank you I just want to let you know Finn was talking about diabetes

as well though Josh it was quite serious actually all been a bit serious but then Lindor pops up he's just floating in the space like Thomas Muller yeah

the plumemouth punchliner can't stop him he'll be absent for ages and then bang no she's got type 1 diabetes so like I just sort of called an ambulance

and then they sort of settled her they said sort of she's fine and then later that night she just like started vomiting and her face was like

it was like a sort of almost like an allergic shellfish kind of reaction her face was really puffed up yeah so we drove to Truro Hospital and they were like, yeah, it's probably preeclampsia. And then they kind of stabilised and then they were like,

we'll let you go. Basically, they were like, do you live in Cornwall? We were like, no. And they were like, well. It's not the time to get into that debate about out of townness, guys. Yeah, you're just down here looking at a few properties, actually, to bite alert. so then they basically discharged us on the

condition that we went straight back to Kings where we were fuck so did you have to then just drive back that night I drove back the next day

eight hours without stopping oh my god that wasn't great and then got her into Kings and they did a bunch of

tests and so bear in mind this is sort of this is coming up to 33 weeks. Yeah. And then they were like, I was thinking, okay, so we'll be in the hospital for like a month and then they'll deliver.

And then they came in and said, yeah, we're going to have a go tomorrow actually. And I was like, have a go is quite a loose. I was hoping we'd say we'd get her out, but have a go. All right. We'll muck in. That's exactly what you need, isn't it?

An eight hour drive from Cornwall just before you have a premature baby but have a go alright we'll muck in that's exactly what you need isn't it an eight hour drive from Cornwall just before you have a premature baby had a go at have a go yeah so yeah

then they're like we're going to go tomorrow because she's actually she's quite unwell and then that's when I opened my first parenting book was the night before

yeah like I was sort of cramming before an exam you thought you had seven weeks didn't you well yeah I was like we hadn't bought a pram

or anything it was yeah they delivered the next day and were you worried about before an exam. I thought you had seven weeks, didn't you? Well, yeah. I was like, we hadn't bought a pram or anything. It was, yeah. They delivered the next day. And were you worried about, did it feel like it was kind of scary? Yeah, but the whole thing was sort of to save Amanda's life

as much as it was like a birth experience. Yeah. I haven't really worked out a way to talk about it. You know, when other parents are sort of sharing their birth war stories. Yeah. I don't really know how to talk about it. You know, when other parents are sort of sharing their birth war stories. Yeah.

I don't really know how to talk about it in a way that doesn't kill the room. Much like my act about five years ago. I haven't quite ironed out the tone. Obviously, because the first year was quite a lot that happened. And of everyone we know, we've had the toughest entry, as it were. So we're the ones that they use as an example when they want perspective. Yeah. Could be worse, could be them.

So how did you get on with hypnobirthing? Did you breathe the baby out? It's difficult. I mean, obviously, men, you sort of learn to not really have an opinion on how women give birth, don't you? It's not really our place. But there's been a couple of times when friends or people have gone on about how they were annoyed

at how medical their birth was and it wasn't the experience they wanted and I'm just a bit like I'm just going to have to leave I don't really know how to I just sort of get a bit angry

because I don't really know how to Oh I'm so sorry that you didn't feel like it was spiritual enough for you but when I was sat there after an eight hour drive like your wife's going to die

if we don't get the baby I'm going to have a go tomorrow and you're like fuck off I'm going to have a go tomorrow. And you're like, fuck off. I'm sorry they forgot to get your crystals out. It was very sterile, the hospital, wasn't it? I just don't. Yeah. They didn't even light a candle, you know.

The real stress was that I was trying to connect to the Bluetooth speaker for about 10 minutes. And then because it was an emergency C-section, I think you've only got 10 minutes to try and connect before they go, you know what, mate? Let's give up on the music. Let's get on with it.

Get the scrubs on, mate. I think I ended up playing Spotify out of my phone by Amanda's face. Great app choice, by the way. Great app choice. The perfect app choice, I'd say, Finn. Oh, Christ. Just an A-cast, shouldn't I?

Shouldn't really throw the cat amongst the village. No, weren't podding, weren't podding, it was music. Who listens to a podcaster in bursts? That's going to be third or fourth kid, you reckon, you're getting the podcaster. Yeah, you're just getting for your to-do list. You're on a Zoom call, pumping them out. I found with the, because we had an emergency cesarean,

but not in as intense a circumstance as I suppose. Still pretty intense. But I was shocked by how medical the whole thing. Do you know what I mean? It felt like I was in a TV drama. Well, I wasn't expecting a shaman, Josh. I wasn't expecting a sort of witch doctor to come in. Just a priest in a warm towel.

Well, maybe you should have stayed in Cornwall yeah do you know what they were great in that hospital but they were a bit like where's that fucking insulin I knew I put it somewhere

I was like we should really go back to King's they're great here but it is you know it's a different system isn't it

you can just live on my life down there isn't it also if your wife had given birth in Truro because you say you're in for two months would you have been living in truro for two months different places have set up

differently for prematurity so we might have gone to bristol or something i don't really know but kings is like one of the best in the well maybe well i don't know so yeah it's got a specialist unit we had to go to kings on our second one because lou's placenta wasn't basically giving the baby enough stuff it was only operating like 50 our two daughters were underweight when they were born so they were five pound ten and six pound five but would have been i don't i don't want to I will. Mine was £3.06. Minus? Mine... Yeah, yeah. Big job. About two months for a big job. So £3.06?

Yeah, about the size of my hand. Oh, my God. Yeah. That one at Gazavia. It's the one trump card I've got, though, so we'll play it. Well, do you know, because I think there's a lot of worry with premature. We'll get back to sort of like the chronological order of it all.

But like a lot of worry about like premature births and stuff. And as they get older, will they be as big or as strong or whatever, all the different complications. But like, there's so many people,

like Tyson Fury was a pound when he was born. And he's like a 6'9", heavyweight champion of the world. So there's no rhyme or reason to it that if a child's premature, these things will happen or won't happen. I've already booked my daughter to fight Deontay Wilder, actually. I've booked the MGM Grand.

It's going to be a bloodbath. And so did you know that you were looking down the barrel of two months in the hospital at this point? No, it was very much just like, let's get to the next thing. Let's make sure Amanda's all right. You just want to make sure Amanda's alive and the baby's out and alive. You know, that's the weird thing

is that like at the time, it really is just like, let's make sure Amanda's all right. Yeah. And then as the kind of connections grown stronger with my daughter, the memory almost becomes more traumatic in like looking back

than it was at the time. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So looking back, it's more painful because do you feel guilty that you didn't, not that you didn't care about the baby, but you were just so like, oh, is Amanda okay? Because at this point the baby's not existed. It's just a thing in the belly. Exactly.

It's weird that at the time it wasn't that traumatic from the baby side of it. But then the more the baby becomes like the main thing in your life, the more you look back on it as a sort of traumatic memory, even though it wasn't the time. But also, you can't think like that. Everything's a sliding doors moment. And she's happy and absolutely insane now, the baby. So it's a very happy outcome.

But the seven weeks in neonatal so how sorry to stop you finn we'll get onto the neonatal seven weeker it's like doing a summary malia you know i mean there's seven weeks but how so when amanda gets taken off to have the baby taken out and to like readjust her blood pressure all that kind of stuff. What are you thinking? What news are you waiting for from the doctors? It's normal, like cesarean. So I'm with her. And she's conscious.

She's awake and just been anaesthetised for the week. Yeah, but fuck me, they had several goes at the old spinal tap. That was painful to watch. Oh, yeah, the epidural. They were letting a trainee do it.

Not now. We're not in Truro now. Get the old fucking big boy on, whoever it is. He's a big dog here. And he's just like, come on now, you can have another go.

And I was like, come on, let's just get it in clean, would you? I know it's like you've got to learn at some point, but not on my wife. What was weird was that they took the baby out, delivered the baby.

And then I went over to the, she got put on a resuscitation table. They make sure she's fine. I then go over and like take some photos to go and show Amanda. Then the baby stops breathing. So I get like ushered away and they like resuscitate the baby. Fucking elfin. Yeah.

Yeah. But then I think it was, anaesthetist was so brilliant at talking us through like, oh, there's a lot of people in the room. There's a big alarm going off loads of people came in but she was fine

how long were they working on her when she oh I don't know maybe five to ten minutes bloody hell god but we were being talked

through it all the time like there's a lot of people but they know what they're doing and it's fine so they weren't pounding they have a crash alarm for like everyone needs to be in this one room

yeah it's almost like I don't know fire department or anything they're just pros and the mad thing was after it was all fine so she then

she's in an incubator and she's like we sort of say hello to her through the glass and then she gets whisked off to the unit I'm obviously in bits saying thank you

to the guy that did it and he looks at me like he works at McDonald's and he's just giving me fries and I'm like I don't know how to thank you and he's like what? and I'm like because it's just a job it's just giving me fries and I'm like I don't know how to thank you he's like what and I'm like it's just a job and I'm in absolute pieces and then they stitch up Amanda and I just

go and absolutely just break down but then we can't go and see the kid for a it was a few hours I think so Amanda lost this is the funny thing is because obviously, so when we're in the unit, a lot of people had had cesareans, a lot of women had cesareans and they were cropped. They completely feel rubbish. But because Amanda had felt so ill beforehand, she basically vomited all the excess liquid because all the swelling in her face had been liquid. She vomited it all up in the space of about half a day. I think she lost like 15 kilos in the first three days. So she looked amazing. Like, she's incredible.

And she felt amazing as well. And she was kind of swanning around the unit. Obviously, she was in a wheelchair for a bit, but all the other mums were completely broken. She was like, I feel so alive. She felt so bad. She felt so near death for ages for the last few weeks

and she's just thinking oh this is just pregnancy this is what it feels like but because she's never had a kid well you don't know yeah yeah you're just like

swelling up and you google it and you go well that happens in the third trimester so you're waiting the baby's been whisked off for a couple of hours

and you're just I imagine constantly asking is she okay well because Amanda's diabetic we always knew we'd have quite a medical birth and I just kind of trust for a couple of hours and you're just, I imagine, constantly asking, is she okay? Well, because Amanda's diabetic, we always knew we'd have quite a medical birth and I just kind of trust doctors.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I'm not one of those people who tries to micromanage. Yeah. You know, I just like believe what they say. So what's going on

in that neonatal unit? Is it all sort of plunked in? So that goes in there, does it? Is that glass been cleaned three seasons? Yeah, I just let to get on with it. And just sort of trusted that they were taking care of it.

And then the main thing was that for me then was that Amanda was fine. Yeah. It must be nice for you, a bit of a relief that she's fine now and got all this out of her and she's looking good and healthy and happy. It must be a relief for you because you're thinking she's, her life was a threat really. Well, yeah, it was. That's why they went so quickly. And then just sort of when a baby's born it's i don't know what it's

like for this sort of quote normal birth but i mean you've got to get to know it slowly anyway yeah of course yeah so we just did that i guess in a different way and so when did they say i presume they didn't say you're gonna have to stay in for two months but when did they say you're staying in for a while i think it was the next day or maybe i went up late that night was this during covid i'll tell you what it was exactly mate because i remember watching your video with you in your bucket hat oh it's during the euros so they'd let the handbrake off so there was loads of cases and yet obviously neonatal unit they're like you can't get it because some of the kids

don't have lungs so um you're allowed to laugh at that because your kid's been in a neonatal yeah i can laugh at it oh i didn't laugh yeah it was like tests every day and all that stuff so you can't just what's swan in and out it's quite also it was like i could work again for the first time in two years but i couldn't because it was like yeah if i get it then amanda gets amanda can't go in and feed and all that and we knew parents who got it and then couldn't go in for 10 days, which is like massive. So you're testing before you go in all the time and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I went up that night and said hello and held her hand

and stuff and kind of got talked through by one of the doctors was like, right, you need to get nappies and wipes. And they get you really involved in parenting and stuff and talk to you through everything. And they were like, they're normally in till about when they would have come out normally. So we knew it was gonna be like six, seven weeks. So she was happy and healthy, the baby, but just obviously young. She couldn't go home with you yet. So it's like there are three wards. There's intensive care, which is like scary.

You know those server rooms you see in action films? Yeah. Racks of machines and huge incubators. Yeah. But nowadays, 33 weeks isn't that premature. There were kids in there like 25 weeks. Wow. I don't know.

It's mental what they can do now. So they were actually quite good at being like, oh, you're not going to be in here very long. Yeah. And I think quite quickly we got moved down to high dependency, so they were actually quite good at being like oh you're not going to be in here very long yeah and I think quite quickly we got moved down to high dependency which is like

quite a lot of equipment but less and then I think maybe within two days we were in special care which to be honest is like a fucking zoo I mean it's just

it's just it's like these babies and they're in fucking plastic tubs on like wheelie trolleys and there's like 12 of them and that's where anyone comes in

when they need like anything after a birth. Yeah. So you've got kids like ours who was quite premature but healthy but just needed to put on weight. Yeah.

And then you've got, there was this one day where, obviously because we were in this one room for like six weeks. Oh, so the actual special care room, it's like that 12 beds and baby. Well, they're not beds, they're fucking washing up tubs, honestly. You know, so we're in this one room for like six weeks. Oh, so the actual special care room? It's like 12 beds? Well, they're not beds. They're fucking washing up tubs, honestly.

So you don't get a bed. You just get a chair next to it, essentially. Yeah, yeah. So you're like commuting. It's like a nine to five. There was this one day where there was this kid who had been born and they were like, I think maybe the mum had gestational diabetes. Anyway, it was used to getting sugar in the womb that it needed to be weaned off.

Right. And this kid was massive. It was like too fat to be in a premature baby unit. I don't want to body shame, but, and it was next to our daughter and it just fucking screamed at the top of his lungs. And the good thing about premature babies is they've got crap lungs.

They don't make that much of a noise when they scream. But this fucker honestly would not stop going i had to leave the worst thing about the unit was the other babies and the other parents that's the worst thing about that's the worst thing about being a parent yeah it's other parents yeah so we were stuck in like the sort of least intense room for ages seeing like people come and go yeah like quite a lot yeah so they'll be in there for like a couple of days for something and then go again yeah yeah so what was your day involving oh christ i mean it was just get up get in the car so you'd leave the baby overnight

and then just go there all day yes sometimes i go there at night but then to be honest it's like you've got to be kind to yourself this brutal like long days and there's no point you the baby needs to sleep and just fatten up there's only so much yeah

and then you're basically just trying to establish feeding because there's a minimum weight to get out so how are they fed is it all bottle fed or is it breastfed

when they're that little we did both Amanda really wanted to breastfeed and she fucking stuck at it it was brutal it took ages to establish but she really wanted to breastfeed and she fucking stuck at it it was brutal it took ages

to establish but she really wanted it she did it which was great but they do bottle as well because obviously when you're not there overnight

got to fatten them up got to fatten them up and we're still actually on a fattening up diet now because she's tracking but she's still like small for her age and they gave us

this leaflet of like what you do to fatten a kid up and Christ I'm not eating mozzarella again. It turns out that's the thing you eat if you want to fan up mozzarella, creme fraiche, we're lacing that in everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Double cream and everything. Yeah. Double cream. Creamy girl. I tell you what though, the problem you're going to have once your kids reach the right weight, they're going to have a taste for it.

It's going to be very difficult that where the fuck's my double cream? Fully aware we're sleepwalking into an obesity crisis, fully aware of that. We're out for breakfast.

Yeah. But when you've seen them be so small, you sort of don't really care, I guess. I don't know. What a story. Until you're on tour.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's all funny stuff. It's all material, isn't it, guys? You know what they say. It's all material, isn't it, guys? You know what I'm saying? It's all material. What's the tour called?

We might as well do the tour. It's called Daddy Self Care. My last tour was kind of just after we got home, and that's on YouTube. That's called So My Wife. So I've got stuff about the birth. That's on YouTube. But, yeah, the new tour is more about just...

Because she's a toddler now, and as I said, very lucky, she's very healthy and very happy but fucking hell new challenge really isn't it she's at the stage where she needs to go

into a soft play but she is not able yet to do the soft play properly yeah

so I'm getting in there and yesterday tooting leisure centre I felt I sort I felt like... Tooting Leisure Centre. It sounds like the start of a joke. Was it Tooting Leisure Centre? Imagine Richard Osman doing those Vietnam War Tunnels tour.

I'm 6'3 and I'm getting in there and doing Leicester. That's brutal, isn't it? Following them. Christ. And then there was this four-year-old that was like just obsessed with her. I just ended up just letting her sort of drag her around and she had her arms

under my daughter's armpits and was like hauling her like she was a sort of battlefield casualty around the top play but I just sort of had a coffee and let her get on with it.

And she's in nursery? Yes, three days a week. Three days a week. Are you good with the other parents? Yeah. I mean, we've made friends with parents on our road, and they're really nice.

Amanda's very sociable. I'm always like, let's just leave it five minutes. There could be pricks. Let's just... Let's just... Don't agree to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How are you managing the tour, though, being away and looking after the baby and stuff?

Is it hard work or is it all right? Yeah, I mean, it hard work or is it alright yeah it's I mean it's what it is we try to plan the tour around like when she's in nursery the other day I did Cardiff

and then I had to get up at five drive to Dorking where Amanda's parents live like at 5am to do a full day's childcare then did Dorking

that night because the building work started and we couldn't stay in the flat we're in now. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's just fucking life. It's just fucking shit for a bit, isn't it? I mean, I don't know how to say it.

I was going to say, just get on with it, don't you? How quickly did you stop feeling blessed after the hell of the birth and stuff? How quickly did the perspective that gave you disappear? I think it was this one parent in particular that really started to fuck me off in the unit. I think when she joined, that was when I was like, this is a nightmare. So why was she annoyed? She just sort of treated the whole unit like it was her private ward and stuff.

And there were these breastfeeding chairs that were like gold because you were just sitting on shit like school chairs. And obviously you're doing like skin to skin. So you like it's just really painful because yeah but then there's like amazing kind of like you know joey and chandler and friends those big like yeah like an easy boy yeah yeah they're like those she just always hogged those she knocked her like a box off her incubator and it nearly hit my daughter who's about four pounds at this you know just just shit like that anyway i'd hate all the big kids because all you want is your kid to be heavier and stronger and full so they can leave and then this big fucking beast comes in you know what's wrong with that one walks down

the aisle with a packet of creme fraiche and a mozzarella in each hand yeah she needs to get used to it she's going to take on dionte so it's all right I'll go through your live shows um so you can see daddy's self-care tour in Manchester 19th right Manchester Frog and Bucket 19th of March 23rd of March Norwich Playhouse 26th of March Belfast 16th April Sheffield Cambridge Aldershot Winchester MacCathliff how do you say that Conleth London extra show at the Leicester, McEnthliff. How do you say that? McUnliffe. McUnliffe. London, extra show at the Leicester Square Theatre. Liverpool, hot water comedy. And then Birmingham, a new show at the Glee Club. So you're all over the place.

And we're adding an extra one in Liverpool as well, but that's not on sale yet. How do you sleep? Fine. Incubated babies. I think there's, I don't know if it's an old wives' tale, but they sleep, don't they? Oh, do they?

Well, yeah. And I think she's very sociable. I think that's because she was passed around a lot different nurses and stuff right yeah it is leading to some problems now in that like a play group she just sort of goes up to other kids and just strokes their face and then like we'll sort of that is sociable i know but it's quite like i'm often the only dad and then i don't really know what the boundaries are because i think you like being a dad thing but i think you hate most people anyway, don't you?

That's sort of your thing. Well... And then now you're being forced into socialising with your daughter. Yes, no, that is an element of it. But she causes quite a lot of incidents. Right, how does she? Because she'll go and play with someone's toy while they're playing with it,

and then just sort of pot her off and leave this poor child in absolute, you know. So she's a thief? I wouldn't call that an incident. I'd call that robbery. No, you're right. Yeah, she's a criminal.

A lot of premature babies are thieves, Rob. That's an old wives tale. Yeah. It's probably from their time in the incubator, actually. So, don't think about that

next time you moan about our very stressful birth. What, five pounds, was it? Five pounds? Yeah, it's fine. Fat baby, if anything. Fat baby. Three pounds, was it? Five pounds? Yeah, fine. Fat baby if anything. Fat baby. Three pounds, my one. Thank you. Yes, no, but she's always been a fairly good sleeper apart from when she's ill

which obviously she's already ill. Oh God, yeah. It's awful when kids are ill. I have foot and mouth. Have you heard that? Yeah, I've heard that. Brutal. I know, it's a horrible brutal. My mouth. I'd tackle out of a gig citing foot and mouth. I had sores on my tongue and in my mouth yeah

and I've still got scarring on the back of my throat what was you doing to that cow's foot because like I was gigging because I was getting the hour together

so I was doing the circuit quite hard and then I would get up early because of the kid like I just didn't get time to recover so those sores were just like painful for like two or three months was grim it's so funny when you

say like i can't come into work so i've got foot and mouth you'll have people go what or yeah cool i did last week see you later yeah yeah exactly yeah it's mad isn't it and it comes back i find the mouth sores i have them recurring now occasionally when I'm really run down. That's it. I've got foot and mouth forever. Life. Yeah. Chronic foot and mouth. Chronic. Like long foot and mouth. Long foot and mouth. Is that why you're on the last leg? Is that the thing? Yeah.

Yeah. I've got long foot and mouth. Alex is talking about the 50 surgeries he has as a child and Josh is like, you know, I've got a couple of sores in the back of my tongue actually from all that sharp wit. Yeah, you can have tongue plastic because I can't,

so there's positive for both of us. You're a Lindor guy, as we've heard from the routine. Oh, I can't wait to get to Sydenham Sainsbury's,

mate. You're never going to go to Sydenham Sainsbury's, are you? If I was passing, I might go in because I've seen the mint ones

and I've thought, I've always wanted to try them, but I'm not sure about a full pack. Move out to the suburbs, Josh. There's a world of fun I'm not sure about a full pack move out to the suburbs Josh there's a world of fun out there I'm not going to move out to the suburbs

I've still got an edge I've still got an edge where do you live Josh? it's at Victoria Park some of them like overpriced croissant places overpriced croissant places what's that weird little

kind of there is a sort of weird almost Cotswold village in the middle of what's it called? is that where you live? the weird little yeah not weird it is a bit weird it's a bit strange isnold village in the middle of, what's it called? Is that where you live? The weird little... It is a bit weird, isn't it?

It's a bit strange, isn't it? In the middle of London. I tell you what you don't say. You don't call it a village to black cab drivers. They do not like that. They do not like that. Do you know what it's like, though? The area where Josh lives, remember when we played Grand Theft Auto and you'd drive through an area and it'd be like a Latino gang area where everyone in that area

has got a Hawaiian shirt and a gun? Yeah. That's what East London's like, where you drive through an area and it'd be like a Latino gang area where everyone in that area has got like a Hawaiian shirt and a gun. Yeah. That's what East London's like where you drive through and it's sort of like normal London, like big cosmopolitan, different cultures, different things.

And then you get through Izbin, it's just loads of middle-class white people with glasses, with their chinos rolled up, bright coloured socks. So that's the bit on GTA that you start going on the pavement, Rob. Yeah, yeah.

You just start mowing people down. Yeah. going on the pavement, Rob. Yeah, yeah. You just start mowing people down. Yeah. We feel the gales is bringing the area down. Wow. I know, exactly. That's a bit too corporate

for these guys. Yeah, come on, guys. These right on guys are pricing out all the people that grew up in that area so they can squatter under bark.

Let's not go into that. So, Ben, I'm thinking we've into that. So, Finn, I'm thinking we've done that. Sleep. Finn versus the internet. You wanted an edge, Josh.

I wanted an edge. So it is your edge. You're metropolitan elite pricing out all the locals. My edge is that I'm basically the human embodiment of the cereal cafe.

Is that what you're saying? Yes. You've done a reverse Cornwall. Normally, people from London earn their money and go to Cornwall and buy it all up. He did it the other way. You've got to be doing cereal cafe stuff, Josh. That's 10 years ago.

You go through all the cereals, all the American ones, that's 20 minutes. Yeah, he sits on routines, so he's not outdated. It's just nostalgia. Yeah. I've got my 2036 tour already written.

I told you that would be written. He's got loads of stuff on a street cat called Bob. You've seen the guy with a cat on his neck? I was going to talk about him versus the internet on YouTube, but fine, let's just take down everything I've done with my... No, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's just plug it.

I do love it, Finn. What I like about it, it's so bloody topical. I just don't know how you do it. I don't know. Look, explain what this is for the listener. It's Finn interviewing people I've never seen before in my life. They're internet people.

Yeah, they're like, they've got big followings, but no one really knows who they are. It's this weird like... It's your YouTube channel, Finn versus the internet. Yeah, it's really funny. It's a bit,

if anyone's seen Between Two Ferns, it's a similar or like sort of almost like Ali G-esque kind of stuff. And how much do they know what they're going into? Well, the first series, they were there under false pretenses and there were several we're not allowed to release for legal reasons. But then... Do you know who they are? No.

But then this series, obviously they'd seen the show, but what we found is they're always surprised. They're never ready for it. They always think, yeah, yeah, no, we get what it'll be like, but then they're always surprised by kind of how far we push it. I'm always amazed when people agree to come on it. I don't really know what's in it for them, but yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's really funny. It's doing really well.

And was this idea of doing a YouTube channel and YouTube comedy on top of your live stuff a bit of a kickback of like i've got a kid now i can't be bothered to drive to dundee it wasn't much that it was that like i was doing bits of tv i mean compared to you guys i haven't done that much telly but i guess compared to the average circuit comic i've done loads and it wasn't really selling tickets now it's all selling really well but it's well i talked to them afterwards it's all youtube tiktok yeah but it was more like oh i've got to do something it was just like i don't mix well yeah and do you find this is the thing that you're most known for even though you're both to have like recurring tv jobs i'd say romesh is the thing that we're both most known for

even though i don't work with him yeah no do you know what it is it depends on the person but i think i get stopped about the podcast the most then maybe robin romesh and then weirdly celebs go dating by blokes that go i fucking ate all that shit but my wife makes you watch it so we only watch that one that you slag off a mom all in i've got a lot of cab drivers that like celebs go dating except my wife forces them to watch it it is interesting though isn That, like, it has moved so much away from the power of television, like, the exposure in that sense. Yeah, it's mental. And it's kind of disorientating because I think I started probably

maybe just after you guys, certainly, like, just after you guys. And back then it was like... Panel show central. Yeah, Kevin Bridges does five minutes on BBC One and pretty immediately is, like like moving to theatres. Yeah. I mean, that world's completely gone, isn't it? I don't think there's anything that really breaks you

unless it's your own thing, really. I mean, the closest I've had is when I did the NFL thing. Oh, that was funny. Even though I'd done Apollo and The Volumes of You, that was the thing that kind of shot my followings up. But just for people that didn't see it, you went on a kind of... They do NFL one or whatever,

it's called the Tottenham Stadium and stuff in London. Yeah. American TV were doing a live broadcast in front of the Thames, I think it was, wasn't it? It's one of the biggest breakfast shows in America, it turns out. I found this out afterwards. What was it on, like NBC or something?

It was on the NFL Network. Oh, the NFL Network. Yeah. And why had you been invited on? Basically, I'd done a job for the production company off the back of doing Montreal years ago. Yeah. And then I think

they only found out they were coming to London like the week before and they were like, well, who do we know? And they just called me. I thought it would be a big payday

because it's like with the NFL, it's massive. Yeah. And then my agent stayed on the call and then informed me that they only pay people

in exposure. So I thought, well, fuck that. I'll do it, but I'll make sure I get paid. Yeah, bring up the mortgage company.

Guys, got a bit of exposure actually if you want to enough to weather the interest in Chris so I kind of went on and they I didn't really plan it

to work out how it did but they were just so American and skittish they were like oh so NFL's great over here right

and I was like no people that like it are really weird and they can't hold down a job because they're up till three in the morning watching fucking Baltimore Beavers or whatever it people that like it are really weird and they can't hold down a job because they're up till three in the morning watching fucking

Baltimore Beavers or whatever it's called oh it's so funny they don't know what to do do they yeah they hated me yeah but it was funny

that's the thing you almost have to play TV for the internet now don't you yeah play it for the clip exactly what I find

like I've got incredible like respect in that and it's the same with film versus the internet I have no guts to do anything in the room where I feel like are you nervous

when you're taking the piss in that situation not really no I don't really care is that bad no I think it's great I think it's fucking brilliant I wish I had that I don't really think it matters I mean if I piss off an American ex NFL player I don't as long as it's not mean, if I piss off an American ex-NFL player,

as long as it's not OJ Simpson, there's not going to be any ramifications. You know what I mean? I don't really mind. You brought him up as well on the broadcast. Twice. The second time really broken. The second time really broken. No, Finn vs. Inter is a bit different

because it is a bit of like, like I got the idea because I'd done a pilot with Sacha Baron Cohen's company. So I kind of saw how they make like Borat and stuff. So I was like, oh, I'm just going to sort of do that, but with internet people. And so I try and you start a bit slow and a bit like, unless they're really up for it, in which case you just start quite hardcore. But no, you try and get them on the side a bit or sort of ease them in.

And then most of the edit is like from 20 minutes in. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, of course. Yeah. That's the thing that sort of sells the tickets. and then most of the edit is like from 20 minutes in do you know what i mean yeah of course yeah that's the thing that sort of sells the tickets but what if that go in viral and getting a following online is if you do get in the room and like you know how to do stand up you've got your show you've got to deliver a show that's the way to build it you have to do something that gets them in the room for the first time so when you go to like dorking or order show whatever and you've

got 100 people in a room where we all start from then proof is in the pudding and if you smash it nothing beats word of mouth exactly once I go on and say do you remember

Space Raiders I'm in bad news putty in your hands silly pie in your hands if you remember that computer game lovely there we go

you can't stop the non-stop gobstopper the tour before I started like putting myself out there, I was like going through theatres and in the big room, there'd be like some TikTok twat and they would have sold like 500 tickets. But the show is pretty. Yeah.

But at least I know how to put on a show. So the problem is getting them in the room. But once you get them in the room, I know they'll come back. Yeah. I know how to do it. So no, it's great. This tour is great. I i've loved it i mean um things are slightly more well they're not settled at home it's complete bin fire but um you know it's actually quite nice to be away it is i'm extending it as long as possible let's do australia do you think you'll go again though for a second or do you think you've got a

bit scarred from your experiences? Amazingly, my wife pretty much straight away was like, she's always wanted multiple kids. And a friend of my mum's had pretty much what we went through. And it put her off. She only had one kid. Yeah. But Amanda was, no, pretty much straight away was like,

it is what it is, you know. So if you have it before, is it likely you'll get it again and can you spot it and treat it there is a 20% increased risk of it happening again but

they wouldn't miss it again yes of course if we got pregnant again so if they hadn't missed it how would that scenario have played out if that makes sense

you'd have still been premature presumably no I think if they hadn't missed it they would have put Amanda on bed rest and basically controlled her blood pressure. Right, right.

Well, maybe, actually. I don't know. It's always a trade-off between how well the baby's doing versus how well the mum's doing. And is bed rest in the hospital? Or is bed rest... Yes, I think so. It's like you're in, basically monitored.

Until the baby comes out and that's dependent on... Well, they'd probably still do a caesare that's dependent on well they'd probably still do a cesarean but they do it i guess they'd probably do it near a term i don't really know you don't know you're making it up fair enough i'm blagging i'm blagging it you're in for two months where your wife's in on bed rest you're looking after the kids and having to go into the hospital every day and you're on tour and you're also having to go and jackmate in an online video all in one day. Busy, busy day. Busy day. So final question now, Finn.

What is one thing that winds you up about Amanda and the way she parents that if she listened back to this, you go, yeah, that's fair enough? And what's the one thing she does that you think she is amazing? I'm so happy that we had a child together. I like how you've changed this question because I listened to a couple episodes of this and it was like what's the thing that fucked you off about your partner yeah and then they'd always say oh well she's great and then you go well that goes without saying it fucking doesn't yeah you know mums they always love being taken for granted so amanda's very she's such a people person she's so like she's got so much energy

sets alarms on holiday that kind of thing right sure whereas I'm much more like we might not like these people you know let's not make plans

on the straight away but I guess that's a good thing I mean when when the baby wouldn't sleep I'm a bit more like just let her cry she'll sort herself out Amanda's a bit more

interventionist than me but you me. But that's kind of horses for courses, really. I mean, yeah, I guess the main thing is that she's ended up making some friends that she's now trying to row back because she's too friendly off the bat. So that's the problem. Speaking quite honestly, she's kind of the only person that's been through what we went through. So it's kind of the only person that's been through what we went through. So it's kind of the only real person I can talk to about it. Yeah.

And she also has a similar outlook. She just remarkably unfazed and just kind of very happy. You know, I do sort of think you can't really control what happens to you, but you can control how you react to it. And so she's great at that you know it's not just the premature stuff

I mean not to throw this in at the end but the baby had sepsis twice as well oh god but fine that's another podcast that's fine

that's all fine my daughter had it three times actually yeah three lots so just yeah yeah so the first year

was quite spicy but it's a real madras of a the first year was quite spicy but it's a real madras of a first first year absolutely full fire chilly

yeah yeah she's brilliant at kind of seeing the funny side and brushing it off and you know she absolutely loves the

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to get a feeling it's flying Josh it's flying cheers Finn this has been brilliant if there's anything else you want to chuck in grenade at the end about

no I think that's sepsis prematurity yeah that's probably aboutis, prematurity. Yeah, that's probably about it. Busy 18 months for you? Yeah. Well, 20 months to be precise.

Let's be precise about it. Thanks for having me, guys. Yeah, it's been brilliant and good luck on the tour. Get your tickets. Yeah, hopefully people won't just come up to you and say, I saw your YouTube videos.

They go, I came because I loved you talking about premature babies for 20 minutes. They are going to have quite a shock if they think the show is going to be as earnest

as I've been at times I think watch the NFL clip and that'll be a bit more like your show than this episode yeah watch the YouTube show and then it'll be

a happy medium between the two I reckon brilliant Finn thank you very much good luck with the tour mate and the YouTube cheers cheers bye