Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S6 EP28: JB Gill

Episode Date: April 14, 2023

 Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant actor, farmer, presenter and singer - JB Gill. JB first found fame as a member of the boyband JLS, who came 2nd on The X Factor 2008. He was also the presenter on 'Down on the Farm' and his first children's book 'Ace and the Animal Heroes: The Big Farm Rescue' is available to pre-order now and out on the 27th April. Thanks, Rob + Josh. We're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK? Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there... ON SALE NOW  14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena 19th April 2023 - Nottingham 20th April 2023 - Cardiff  21st April 2023 - London (The O2) 23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley) 28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena  If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] TWITTER: @parenting_hell INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parents in Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or, hopefully, how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with advice and of course tales of parenting woe because let's be

honest there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing hello you're listening to parenting hell with steady can you say rob beckett and can you say joshett? Rob Beckett. And can you say Josh Widdicombe? Josh Widdicombe. That was good. How do you feel about that, Josh? How do you feel about that? It wasn't good. Hi, but, I like this.

Hi, Josh and Rob. In brackets, it's never written that way around, is it? No. No. This is my daughter, Betty, who's 25 months old. In brackets, let's be honest she's two keep it sexy and relatable martha in ealing martha in ealing what's ealing like it's been the first six months of my life in the ealing did you oh maybe that's why she likes you more than me

went for the josh rob how do you feel about it it's rob beckett and josh widdicombe's parenting hill uh fine yeah a shorter name goes first anyway, doesn't it? Is that how it works? Isn't it alphabetical normally? I don't know. Lennon and McCartney. Yeah. But...

Are you all right, mate? Tired? You seem sad. Oh, do you know what happened yesterday? You'll enjoy this. Go on. You know my cat that every three months has to go to the vet to have her...

Gallstones, is it? It's like her liver or whatever it is. Kidneys. Kidneys kind of flushed. Oh, yes. Kidney flush. That's the one. Yeah.

So Rose had to go out. It was 11am that I was doing it. And so I had to... You were doing the flushing? No, I was taking the cat. Do you flush your own cat's kidneys? Yeah, I do. Yeah. No, I had to take the cat to the vetushing? No, I was taking the cat. Do you flush your own cat's kidneys? Yeah, I do, yeah. No, I had to take the cat to the vet for 11.15.

Okay, sorry. We couldn't put... Rose was going out at nine, taking the kids to the nursery and play scheme. So I was basically left with the cat locked in the house. Did some work upstairs, the cleaner was here. And then told her she couldn't go in the bedroom because the cat was

locked in the bedroom but we couldn't just put her in the why is the cat locked in the bedroom oh because you don't want her to go out and not find her

yeah I get you anyway going to the bedroom and somehow the cat isn't in the bedroom with the door closed like a kind of Jonathan Creek style mystery right

I'm saying to Rose I don't know what's, you know, we've locked the door. Basically, Rose and me have... Is Rose back at this point? No, I'm phoning her up. I love the fact you always ring Rose. Well, because it's her cat. I know it's her cat, Josh.

I was like, where's the cat? Have you locked it in the bedroom she's locked nothing in the bed what Rose has done is she's just locked nothing in the bedroom

right okay so she told you she's locked the cat in the bedroom yeah I just thought you rung someone who's not in the house

to ask where they're at okay she's okay so I'm gonna have to the cat's a right off gonna have to go downstairs I'm gonna have to phone the vet

so the cat she didn't actually lock the cat. She thought the cat was in the bedroom, but it wasn't. She just locked nothing in the bedroom. She locked nothing. Basically, all she did was make sure the cat couldn't go in the bedroom. That was all she did. Where you wanted the cat to be.

Yeah, exactly. Bear in mind, I'd opened the bedroom door, like creaked it open, so the cat didn't jump out as I got in. All that kind of stuff. And sliding in sideways. Yeah. All that. All that shit.

Go downstairs. The cat's in the fucking kitchen. Couldn't believe my luck. There's a second chance at this. First thing I do, block the cat flap. So now we're in the fucking kitchen. Couldn't believe my luck. There's a second chance at this. First thing I do, block the cat flap. So now we're in the house. Now we've narrowed it down to the house. We've got five minutes till the cat needs to be in the car.

Basically, I'm chasing the cat around the bottom floor of our house. The kitchen, which is like the kitchen and the sitting room. Have you shut it? Is there a kitchen and the sitting room have you shut is there a door to the stairs that you can shut I've blocked those off yeah I've blocked those off

so that's good you're slowly closing the prune slowly closing it down feels a bit like you know when like lockdown ended yeah

you could slowly start doing more things you could sort of yeah exactly yeah and so but I couldn't one on one

with the cat it just it was there was two hiding places it was outboxing Yeah, and so... But I couldn't one-on-one with the cat. It just... There was two hiding places. It was outboxing me. Too many knick-knacks, mate. Too many knick-knacks. Under the sofa. If a cat's under a sofa, you just can't get it out.

Stick. Yeah, but it'll go one way. Not hitting a cat, but you hit the stick on the floor and it scares it out. Yeah, but then it goes one way. It was just going under the kitchen table. It was... It was a going under the kitchen table. It was... It was a game of cat and mouse.

It was a game of cat and mouse, yeah. And then, so I was like, I'm going to have to ask Talita, our cleaner, to help me. Because she speaks minimal English, Rob. Where did she come in? Where's Tal deleted from? Brazil. Brazil.

Right, Paul James, Portuguese. Well, normally we use Google Translate on our phones. Right, okay. To communicate. Oh, no. But she's watched the whole thing unfold, so she knows what I'm going to ask. Yeah.

It doesn't take a genius to work at it. You don't need to try... So what did you write in Google Translate? No, I didn't. I said, could you help me catch the cat? In English? Yeah, but she knows about cats. No, no, I'm not criticising. And also, she's just watching me trying to catch the cat in english yeah but she's she knows about cat i'm not criticizing but and

also she's just watching me trying to catch the cat so she's not gonna go what do you mean so anyway basically then me and talita are kind of chasing this cat around two on one unable to you know defenders it's all about communication but we can't communicate our mood what you want to say is you hang at the end of the sofa i'll flush the cat out and then you grab it all about communication so how did it how did you and toleto get? How do we get on? We got the cat. We got the cat. Who grabbed the cat? Me. I got it. So was she flushing? Well, no, the vet was flushing. That's how that was. Oh, yes!

That is lovely. Lovely stuff. Yeah. But anyway, so then the cat pissed on me through fear when I got it Oh it was annoying Through fear Well because she hates that box

Oh she doesn't like Going in there It's annoying isn't it cats And dogs I love I love having cats Do you love the cats Why

I like having cats I do Okay you said you love the cats But you like them So you don't love them I do actually Because when it looked like She was going to die

I was absolutely gutted yes but when you're on your hands and knees with Talita part of you thinking how much longer have we got to do this for

well part of me is thinking this is basically Rose's cat why are me and Talita doing this where had Rose gone? She's gone to do drop-off, and then she's gone to the gym. Right, okay.

There we go. How have you all been? My daughter says yard instead of garden, and I hate it. But I don't want to feel like an old man. Dad, when can we go and play in the yard? So what, is she an American? She's been watching Big City Green. Have you ever seen that?

No. It's like a kid's thing, but it's like these sort of country American people move to the city. And they're like, we're hanging in the yard. That was a terrible impression. Oh, no, what I've been up to. So I've realised I do something. Do you ever do this? Say we're chatting. Say we're talking in the yard, meh. You know, that was a terrible impression. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, no, what I've been up to. So I've realised I do something. Do you ever do this?

Say we're chatting. Say we're talking about kidney flushing. I sometimes spell flushing in my head, like F-L-U-S-H-I-N-G, like over and over again. And I can see the letters, almost like it's subtitles. Oh, that's interesting. Do you do that? No.

No, Lou doesn't either. So when you're talking to me, you're doing that in your head? Yeah, so... Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. I wonder what that is. Not always, but sometimes. Or I'll think...

If I'm driving along and I'm thinking, like, oh, you know, kitchen. Oh, I need to sort the kitchen out. And I'll be driving then after that thought would be like k-i-t-c-h-e-n k-i-t-c-h-e-n wow please write in and tell us what that is people or i think i think it's called ticker taping but i don't know what it is i don't know if it's a dyslexic thing or an adhd i don't know what it is yeah but um if i don't know or it's just a quirk do you do that one um no it's not always it's not every word but sometimes i will just get in i find myself in a bit of a loop doing it oh that's interesting i think it's not always it's not every word but sometimes i will just get in i find myself in a

bit of a loop doing it oh that's interesting i think it's called did you do it during the flushing but does it affect your concentration i'm constantly thinking of something all the time so that's what i have to do is try when i try and do like breathing and meditating to try and not think right but my brain's constantly worrying like and it's not always negative stuff or bad stuff. It'll be like, so for example, I'll, you know, I'll see like an old bloke walking into a bank,

just saw the other day. And he looked like he had a gun in his bag. Cause he looked, that'd be quite funny, wouldn't it? For like an old bank robber that keeps trying to rob banks, but he's so old and he can't do it anymore. Just keeps doing it wrong to the point.

No one actually thinks he's robbing a bank. And then I've written like a sitcom or film in film in my head about it yeah and stuff like that but but yeah then yeah so it's constantly worrying but then i do do that spelling out of stuff but i don't really know what that is to be honest that's interesting i'm finding that fascinating that you do that um please i'd want to know more about that from our listeners please i don't know what what that i'm thinking about doing a a show called What Is Wrong With Rob Beckett? Because there's definitely something. And I think it'll be quite good to nail it down.

I would watch. Yeah, I'd be just going... Go me walking into a doctor's and go, look, I'm not quite right. There's something going on here. I don't know what... I'm all right. I'm not... You don't want to lose it, do you here. I don't know. I'm all right. I'm not nothing.

You don't want to lose it, do you? Like, do you know what I mean? It's like what makes you you. Yeah, of course. And it's a blurring of what's personality and quirks and then what is an actual sort of medical condition or a condition that your life would be easier if you didn't have that. But it's all a big

mix i'm not looking actually what but i definitely feel like there's a few things that have probably got a name that i have you know i mean but maybe that maybe i just thought it was being chirpy but it's not there's more going on there's a lot going on a lot going on in there busy old brain oh then i went i went shopping the kids right yeah quite delicate about this right so the kids if we buy them clothes now they refuse to wear them right because they're like i don't like that because basically we buy like nice pastel stuff they look cute and they all want like garish bright clothes yeah so they had some money on their little cards they've got some like cards and they wanted to buy perfume right all right so we need to body shop

and they ended buying i think she went into a body shop of a seven-year-old or five-year-old and said hello my daughters want to buy perfume please can you help because like what kids don't need perfume i don't want them to start getting like also it's expensive perfume luckily they had these little like vegan fruity like um body sprays that aren't sort of they're quite like it's not chemically and stuff like that they bought a grapefruit one and a strawberry one anyway they loved it so the perfect one and we went clothes shopping because me and lou said look they're not wearing the clothes so why don't we take them and let them choose yeah the worst mistake we've ever made in our life really the outfits they come back with and personally, I quite like Nex.

I think Nex do really good clothes and a good range and, you know, not too pricey. Primark stresses me out, but they do do good bits and Lugo's in there, but I get quite stressed going in. But we went in Zara

because all that Zara's quite nice. Zara's good. Quite expensive Zara. But some of the people that go in there dress in a way that me and Lou would never dress.

I'd say 80% of the people in Bluewater that go in there for little bits and bobs are just sort of running the mill quite normal. There's a 20% which are basically teenage girls that are about 12 that go in with no clothes on and more makeup on than if they were entering the Love Island villa. All right, grandad, calm down. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is not grandad. This is, I'm talking thick makeup. However, that group of girls go in there a lot of shopping. So all the clothes are crop tops, short little jeans, skirts.

Right, right, right. Short little shorts. But my kids now are in the seven to 13 bracket. Oh no. They're not little kids. So my five-year-old daughter picked up a pink crop top, quite low cut with a pair of flares. And she's five.

I can't dress her in that, Josh. And then she started having a meltdown because we wouldn't buy it and it was supposed to be their choice and now me and Lou are basically we are holding outfits that if they walked into the Love Island villa

people would go oh it's a bit short isn't it I know they're the bombshell but it's a bit short it was a disaster a complete disaster so then what we did was buy the clothes

hoping that they'd forget they exist leave them in the bag in the boot so that next time we go back I can return them and get the money back A complete disaster. So then what we did was buy the clothes, hoping that they'd forget they exist, leave them in the bag in the boot, so that next time we go back, I can return them and get the money back. Because I can't dress my daughter in them. Have they forgotten they exist? If I dressed my daughters in the clothes they picked, Josh,

and they came to your party, you would say, what's happening? It's not fancy dress. Is everything okay? Yeah. So the clothes are in the bag, and we're taking them back next week. So the plan now is, me and Lou are going to find clothes

and put them in the basket on an online shop and ask them to pick out of our shortlisted items. Oh. That's the future. Oh, it's a fix. Until as long as we can get away with that. Yeah. Oh, my word.

This is only going one way. Anyway. Five years time. Right. Should we bring on our guest yeah i need to lie down yeah jb from jls and of course down on the farm lou's favorite member of jls she loves this guy jb two kids and a farm what a man jb hello how are you hello i'm very well thanks all the better for seeing you lads thanks for doing this yeah well we're very excited by this do you want to go first as to why you're excited Rob and then I'll say why I'm excited well I think you're more excited than me not to go in hard on you JB but my wife is obsessed with JLS to the point where this is quite problematic

for me because when I said I'll speak to you she screamed a way I've not heard her ever scream. Like she was 17 again, going, Oh my God, JB, he's my favorite. Like a way that a child would say about you. And, um, I remember I got caught in about two hours worth of traffic, picking her up from a JLS concert years ago. So it's difficult for me because you're a good guy. I'm very happy you're doing this, but your success has impacted me in negative ways in the past, but hopefully we can move LS concert years ago. So it's difficult for me because you're a good guy. I'm very happy you're doing this, but your success has impacted me in negative ways in the past. But hopefully we can move on through this as Josh also is a huge fan of your second career as it was. So I think we can get through that pain,

Josh, don't you think? Yes. Yeah. All I'm going to say is I love down on the farm. He's obsessed with it. Love it. So who's, are you happier Rob's wife is a fan of you

or that I'm a fan of you? What's your preferred? I mean, I'll take them both. Of course, like you say, Rob, I can understand. I've had lots of reports of people and boyfriends and husbands who've had similar, let's say, challenges. Yeah. You should have just come to the show. You should have just come to the show.

You should have just come to the show. She'd rather be married to you. That's the elephant in the room here. She'd rather be married to you. That's what I'm saying. Well, it's all right. You don't have to worry because I'm married as well. So it's all good.

I'm off the table. Right, okay, good. Okay, that's good. Yeah, we can move on now. There's no threat there now. Is your wife a fan of Rob Beckett? Yeah, she is. We sat down and we watched a few of your bits, to be fair, Rob. Well, that's helping. Yeah. We can move on now. There's no threat there now. Is your wife a fan of Rob Beckett? Yeah, she is. We sat down and we watched a few of your bits, to be fair, Rob.

Well, that's helping. Yeah, I'll be honest. I can't quite say that she's your biggest fan. Let's move on from this rivalry now and let's talk about the kids. How many kids you got, JB, for the listeners? What's the setup at home? I've got two. So I've got a boy who's eight, ace.

Obviously, he's the first. And then I've got Kiara, who's little princess she's she's brilliant she's good fun she's my youngest and yeah we've just got two one of each and you live on an actual farm don't you yeah you live on a working farm not to take it back to the farm straight away so did you move out there because of your family or how did that come about yes i mean just to give you a little bit of background i've grown up really in south london pretty much most of my life what about jb well so when i was about four i used to live in the car well i lived in the caribbean for a little while because my mom and dad used to work i'm actually born here but they

worked out in antigua until i was about three or four and then we moved here again well they moved here for work and i went to primary school in Tulsa Hill. Oh, that's just around the corner. This is getting worse. Lou, my bump into you. That was my old bumping ground. Right. Where are you now?

When I was about 13, we moved to Croydon. So South Croydon. Okay, that's closer. We were there until I was about 24. And then, yeah, we moved out to the farm. So we've been there 13 years now coming up. Nice.

Do your kids love the farm? Yeah. Do you know what? For me, just to, as I say, paint that picture, it was before we had kids, but we were definitely in that phase of, you know, we're looking to get married. We're obviously looking to move in together and so on.

Like what kind of lifestyle did we want to have for ourselves and for our future and for our family? And at the time, I mean mean I was so busy with JLS like you know obviously as you can imagine touring a bit like you know if you up and you know you're away and you know you've got lots going on and you know lots of projects lots of tv where everything's you know happening and as you can imagine didn't get many days off so for me being able to have like that one or two days in a three four month period where you actually could do nothing you know it's all about being outdoors in the countryside you know being able to go for walks you know we had a dog at the time and take our dog for walks stuff like that so that kind of became the foundation for it and then when

I was about just before we're about to have, no, just after we had Ace, that's when we were approached by Dan on the farm. And I'd actually had the farm set up for a couple of years by that point. So we had pigs on site, we had turkeys and stuff, which we still do commercially. And effectively, it was just a case of, you know, how can we make this space that we've had? We've got about 15 acres here useful, you know, long story short. and i spoke to previous owners and i did a bit of research on the area and you know on soil types and all that interesting stuff and you're in it hardcore this isn't just like a couple of animals you are on soil types

it's unbelievable you never believe just how much difference it makes clay soil and uh very clay where are you kent very clay yeah we're in kent yeah you're in kent oh yeah oh rob we're gonna be neighbors down the road but yeah do you know what so obviously you know there was a lot of research to be done and not really coming from a farming background it was a massive step but you know as i say i was always incredibly passionate about it and then when down on the farm came along and obviously then ace came along around about a similar time and you know then all of a sudden it became less about me and then more about the next generation do you know what i mean yeah so you know as i say for me it's such a an incredible industry to be able to support you know we don't

have the biggest farm in the world but you know we have a bigger voice than most farmers you know and so for me it's always been, I've been very passionate about utilising that voice in any way that I possibly can. And being able to shine a light on, as I say, what I think is a fantastic industry. And do you think Lou would be good on a farm, Rob? Ah, let's move away from Lou. What about Jeremy Carlson?

What do you think about him? To be fair... Do you think his planning permission should have come through? I know. To be fair, Jeremy's been asked a lot of questions. And, I mean, he's absolutely adored by the farming community. Yeah. But he asks a lot of very important questions.

And there's certain things where you just think, why is it not like that? You know, often it takes someone who's outside of that industry, who hasn't grown up in it, who isn't just doing it the way things have always been done, to pose those questions. Yeah, exactly. And similarly for me you know being able to see shows on television whether

it's streaming sites whether it's documentaries whatever it might be somewhere where it's been accessed by mainstream media is really really important you know not just for people to appreciate sort of food and where it comes from you know one of the things that i saw through the lockdown was you know all of a sudden our appreciation for food and where it comes from. You know, one of the things that I saw through the lockdown was, you know, all of a sudden our appreciation for food and how it gets to our plates completely changed. When we walked into a supermarket and we couldn't get eggs and we couldn't get flour, we were like, hold on a second, we were about to bake, you know, our 50th batch of muffins

and there's nothing that we can't use. You know what I mean? We can't use any flour. Yeah, yeah. And so for me, just being able to have that conversation in a place that's not, you know, a political political debate or you know on on question time or whatever it's brilliant it's amazing i'm a huge advocate for it yeah yeah yeah of course and i'm sure the kids absolutely love it you know the perfect age with all the animals and being in the countryside but you've traveled the world you know with jls you've been all over the place you've lived in london and stuff like that

are you worried that when they get to 16 17 they're just gonna be like see you later that's gotta be the worry yeah it's probably yeah i've been prepared for that but for me like it's about that mindset you know and it's like with anything they don't necessarily need to go into the farming industry but if they have an appreciation for it they'll think differently do you know what i mean and even now you know we talk about you know overproducing beef and cattle and the rise of veganism and all that sort of stuff they're all good things you know it's not to say yeah everyone's all of a sudden going to become a vegan but actually for me there's value in balance do you know i mean and being able to have those things and people actually thinking consciously

about hold on a second should i not have a couple of days in my week where i don't have any meat yeah that's a good thing to do do you know i mean it's not a bad thing and so for me if my kids can grow up around that and grow up with a love of the countryside grow up with a love of animals grow up with a love of you know farms and farming and things that are really important for all of our futures for me that goes a long way and whether they're involved in health education politics arts entertainment whatever they end up doing is sort of that their main career and i'm sure they'll go on and they'll be incredibly successful i want them to be able to use that position in order to help our society do you know i mean not just from what they do but also from

you know food is an incredibly important part of everyone's society because of that do they know about where the meat comes from? Yeah, yeah. And so did that freak them out? Did they still want to eat meat after or did they not want to eat meat? Because when I was eating lamb once, I told my daughter where it came from and she was horrified with me and didn't speak to me for like two days. And she refuses to eat it.

I don't know. I mean, I've always grown up cooking with them. Like, I mean, Ace couldn't even walk and I would, you know, have him sort of not obviously cooking with me, but, having my arms and you know tasting a bit of pasta and telling me if it's cooked yet or whatever i've always done that with them and told them where their food comes from bless ace i mean he's been on the farm with me when we've been out there with the turkeys and you know lost 50 or 60 to the fox and it's just fucking big fox one fox it probably was more than one but I mean

I was going to say that fox needs locking up done 50 turkeys I mean you can imagine what it's like around here I mean literally I walked in and they were all

outside the pen which was good but it was just a massacre oh god and there was nothing you could do about it and if you leave it out

it just attracts more so you've got to just deal with it as soon as it happens oh my god so you and ace were clearing it yeah the eight-year-old was helping clear up he wasn't even eight he was like five and it was right oh my god obviously he wasn't picking them up but you know i'd say listen just hold the bag there for me i know he's got to go hold the bag because chloe was away at the time he didn't have kiara and literally i was looking after him wasn't i so i told chloe her, she didn't have a go at me.

She would have been. But do you know what I mean? That's just part, you know, that was in the earlier days. That's life. That's part of farm life. And it is tough, you know, and it is difficult. And, you know, that's one of the reasons why I always try and, you know, use my voice as much as possible.

Because there'll be people who that 50 birds or whatever it might be is literally their profit wiped out for the year goodbye yeah yeah so is the farm like you know your proper sort of business that's sort of like you know you're running it to earn a profit as a businessman and a farmer or is it more of like a bit of fun and something to do you know you've earned so well from jallet and such an amazing career is it like a bit of fun in retirement as it were or is this a proper i'm running this farms for a profit i want to build on it and stuff like that yeah i mean it's run as a business and it's it has to turn a profit i mean we've gone from with our turkeys anyway we've gone from having i think 50 or 60 we started with and now we probably grow closer to 300 so

it's grown over the years been about i think it's coming up to nine or ten years this year you know so it's grown year on year yeah a great relationship with sort of local customers and staff and we've built a good customer base that people come back to us and yeah you know for us it's obviously it's not my main source of income but it's definitely run as a business and it's something that we are looking to expand and we've you know we try to expand over the years as well. And are the kids helping with that then? Is that sort of, you know, they come and do the jobs with you now? Yeah, absolutely. Like my little girl, she absolutely loves the chickens. They're her thing.

I mean, now I can literally be like, OK, Kerry, you go and sort the chickens out. I'm going to go and sort this out. She's four. What does sorting the chickens out mean? What's she got to do? She'll go and she'll get all the feed. If you said to me, Rob, sort the chickens out mean? What's she got to do? She'll go and she'll get all the feed. If you said to me, Rob, sort the chickens out, I'd Google something and I'd panic. She'll literally, she'll go and get the food for the chickens. So she's got a yellow bucket outside.

She'll go and give them two scoops of corn, two scoops of pellets, chuck that in. That's her favourite job. Then she'll go and sort the chickens, basically go and check for eggs. Yeah. Give them their food, top up their water, and then basically say, Daddy, I'm done. Amazing.

No, I'm still getting my seven-year-old water at the table. Your one's feeding chicken. Get this, Rob, she works in the abattoir as well. Not quite. Probably would if it was up to her. She's definitely the boss, that one. She's in charge. She's going to manage something, yeah, when she gets older.

And so are you on the farm feeding some chickens when you're taking calls about the JLS tour and stuff? You're like, yeah, I will go on tour, but first, you know, I've just got to deal with these turkeys and stuff. It's quite a kind of culture clash of a life, isn't it? Well, funnily enough, when we did the first, when we originally came back, think it was 2019 yeah we did like a little sort of skit where each of us sort of took a call from each other and then was like you know basically said yeah we should do

this and it was obviously all building the anticipation and so on and i was on the farm so i did my bit on the farm you know yeah and for me obviously they are two very different industries but actually there's lots of similarities you know they're both very very tough industries you know there's lots of work involved with both you know for me the difference is when i'm a lot of horse shit in both right guys right guys therapeutic to be very honest with you i just high-fived myself but then you know one thing I love about being on the farm is that I'm based around home. You know, as much work as you have during the day or whatever,

you're done sort of by five o'clock, six o'clock when it gets dark or starting to get dark and you're back home with the family. At least, obviously, I love, you know, doing that and touring and being away with the family and stuff like that. But, you know, it can be tough, especially if you're away for long periods of time. And, you know, with the kids, you're missing on But, you know, it can be tough, especially if you're away for long periods of time. And, you know, with the kids, you're missing on their school stuff

and football stuff and this and that. But they're both lifestyles that I've grown up with and they're both things that I enjoy and they both make me me. Do you know what I mean? And I wouldn't play along with them, to be very honest with you. And do the kids play well together?

There's a four-year age gap. Do they play all right? Or is it a bit arguing? What's the setup? Because I didn't realise I'm quite lucky that my two girls play well yeah but sometimes that's not always the case is it i get a bit of both to be honest like they'll wake up one day and they'll be playing brilliantly with each other they'll help each other out ace will run and you make breakfast for kiara by breakfast i mean like toast or cereal or whatever she'll go and sort it

all out so yeah come we'll do this we'll go and get dressed for the day, all of that sort of stuff. And then you'll have days where usually on the weekend with a jump in bed with us, you know, before we have to get up for the day and there'll be shouting and screaming at each other. As I say, like my daughter, she's the fighter. So she will give as good as she gets, even though she's half his age. Really? Yeah. I mean, she literally just should come up to me and say, you want to to him she's like you want to fight and i was like who did you even get that from but yeah i mean they're they're typical brother and sister if i can say that you know they do

get on they do have a good relationship but yeah they're not short of their their fights well how's your daughter gonna feel though because you've written your first children's book and it's called ace and the animal heroes yeah and it's out on the 27th of april end of the month you're gonna have to write another one now or another series ac animal heroes feels like that's a series and we follow ace with his animals in numerous books your daughter's not gonna be happy about this issue well do you know what obviously this has been an eight-year project right so i started it before ace was just after she will not give a shit about this by the way no no wait so what i did she'll go halfway through that eight year project a child was born and you had another four years but you're right so what i had to do i basically had to create a

new character and this is thanks to my editor, Carmen. She said, you know, we want to try and get another character in there. We want to add, you know, because I literally only had Ace as one of the main kids. I was the only kid in it originally and it's evolved over the years, as you can imagine. So then I thought, this is the perfect time.

So I did, I created the character called Bear, which is what we call Kiara, my daughter. Right, okay, that worked, yeah. And she's had full reign so even with the illustrations like deciding how she looked what hair she had all of that right she had full reign so she has created her own character within the book even though you know the book the series even though the book is called ace just saying i'll tell you what we'll see what she says at eight and then maybe we can uh i'll have a little word with penguin again yeah yeah i'm looking forward to her the book being renamed

hers for the next one just to keep her happy now that would go down in the house and you um drew on a lot of your family life about that moving from city to the farm in the book yeah now how honest were you about things that happened in the family life because that's the problem if you involve family members yeah right they're not always happy was that difficult putting them in or they're quite relaxed your family says from bitter experience of doing this podcast i say to my mom and dad it's always true i never put in their life but you know what so far because they haven't actually had a chance to read through it properly they've only seen sort of little snippets as i've gone throughout the time. So everyone's okay so far.

There's been no major issues. I have got a niece and nephew who are already on the phone saying to me, what's going on here? Are they in the book? Not yet. Right. You're going to have to draw the line at the niece and nephews because there'll be one.

Then that's the problem. How many siblings have you got? I've got one sibling that's the issue in it because if it's one sibling it's only the kids they produce that want to be see i've got four brothers so if i put all the niece and nephews in it's too much going on it's like game of thrones i'm trying to limit it to thanks and acknowledgements yeah acknowledgement is just to get out i love the acknowledgements bit two books we've done and it's love the acknowledgements bit Two books we've done And it's like the acknowledgements All the people I forgot about when I was writing the book

Special thanks to the 18 month old nephew I couldn't have wrote this book without you Do you know what JB From my experience None of your family are going to read it They'll lie and pretend they have So they won't even know The way it works with the book is People go i love the book and then you mention something

from the book and they look blankly at you and you go you didn't read the book no yeah well to be fair my uh my wife's my father-in-law he's that he feet well his name features in the book he we call him gaga or ace calls him gaga and he's really good like he's the kind of person and my mom as well, actually that will read through the book and they say, Oh yeah. So I think you should change that. And actually grammatically, this is incorrect. So it needs to be as I'm like, mom, I've got an editor for that. It's okay.

Oh really? They get involved. Those people, they sound like people after my own heart. I love someone that can spot a grammatical mistake. Thank you very much. And what's funny is their birthdays are quite similar. So I think they're pretty much the same people just on the other side of the family but no do you know what we obviously the family incredibly supportive and always have been and obviously they're excited about the book being out as well and and you know being able to read it and share it with everybody so yeah i was gonna say what do they think of you moving to like a

farm with and having kids there and stuff like that like away from a bit further away from all your family are they still like croydon way yeah yeah so i'm actually not too far from them so from um close mom and dad i'm about 40 minutes and then from my my side i'm probably about 25 minutes so it's not bad it's actually probably happy medium you You know when you've got grandparents close enough, but not right on the same level. They can still do babysitting, but they can't pop in for a cup of tea. You know what I mean? When they babysit, do they have to do the chickens and the turkeys as well?

So, you know, if you go away for a couple of nights and the grandparents are in, do they have to do the farm? Yeah. So my mum, yeah, I will do it. She'll do it. I try not to go away too long with her because she'll do a few days and then she's kind of like, I'm over it now. But no, no, no. All jokes aside, she's very, very helpful.

And both sides as well. You know, close mum and dad are incredibly helpful as well. And, you know, as I say, we try and go away as a family at least once in a year, which is just, you know, I think is necessary and healthy. And, yeah you know we always have good support as i say locally as well if you are going away for a couple of nights maybe it's like anniversary or something like that and the kids are home the grandparents around say they get the kids up get them off to school right what else is it they have to do when you're not there like or do you get someone to cover that because like i think that's the issue is if you've got grandparents to grab the kids and then they've got that and

do the turkeys yeah i keep it simple so basically they need to make sure they're fed make sure they're watered yeah and make sure there's no major issues so no breaks in fences or you know any dramas like that perimeter check walk the bounds walk the 15 acre bounds and what are they feeding and watering what's on the list of things to be fed and watered children obviously children

chickens pigs turkeys primarily cats dog wow right

we've got two cats and we Rose worries about going away with the two we've got Pauline next door is excellent her kids love

feeding the cats but Rose is like we can't go away for too long because the cats will miss us. Oh, fuck a cat. Cats don't give a shit. Fuck the cats. She cares about the cats. She cares about the cats. Cats don't care.

Cats are survival of their own. They're all right. Yeah, I mean, our cats are pretty much feral. Yeah. Well, one of our cats is called Beryl. That's close to feral. But I don't really give them much affection. And Rose does.

And they much prefer her. So they do actually care about Rose. They couldn't give a fuck about me. Right. I can't believe it, really. You know what? So my relationship with cats hasn't always been as positive as my wife, shall we say. However, you ate cats.

We rescued. We rescued. You hate cats. Let's just say it just say it jb you hate cats you hate your cats past tense hated not anymore all right there he is the grammar runs in the family past tense this guy's a writer now forget the farm this guy's all over it you're right listen listen so we rescued two cats. And initially, it's my intention that they'd be farm cats, right? We had a massive rat problem.

And I didn't want to do this and do that and poison and whatever else. And I just, it didn't feel right to me, to be very honest with you. And so I was like, no, absolutely not. But it was a massive issue, like biting through bins and eating food and all that sort of stuff, right? So I rescued two cats. But they were both feral cats and obviously you need them to hunt and so on and so forth yeah and so we had them on the farm and when i say feral i mean i couldn't put my hand in the cage to stroke any of them you want cats that have done time if their job is killing rats that's what

you need you need prison cats they've done plenty of time anyway obviously them being on the farm me feeding them every day giving them water every day seeing them every day we had aced it by this point and one of them was named phantom we called him phantom because we literally never ever saw him if i went down there he would go in the opposite direction gone see you later i wouldn't see him for the rest of the day anyway over about six to nine nine months all of a sudden he started getting a bit closer and started coming over and i was still quite scared to be honest i put my hands up because in the beginning i couldn't give him food in his crate literally put my hand in there because i was afraid i'd get swiped yeah and all of a sudden he's like you know cozying up to my leg coming up to say hi and bearing in mind now we've got toddler running around so ace is there and

ace has no experience with any sort of animal other than what we've introduced him to all of us very above board very very nice and gentle and brilliant and whatever else anyway so this cat now starts coming up to ace so we're out freaking out thinking oh no we're gonna have to grab the cat if it does anything whatever else thinking the worst and i promise you that year of food water and a little bit of affection changed phantom from being pretty much wild and feral like ace could call him and he'd come really ace could tell him wow jump up on the electric vehicle and he'd jump up on it and they'd drive around the garden amazing and i would never have believed it if he told me so that's why it's past tense and now i've got you like cats now yeah the cats for sure

so are we going to gloss over that your son drives at the age of eight that's a hell of a we live in a farm what do you expect all the kids at school who were farmers when I was growing up in Devon, they'd all passed their test within like a week of turning 17 because they'd just been driving

their whole teenage years around the farm. Literally. I'd be putting behind the wheel of a car because you can, can't you? He's not quite tall enough

I don't think yet but I would. I would. Yeah. He does all the driving and the track with me. Does he? He does sit on my lap obviously

but he'll do the thing I'm like, me does it sit on my lap obviously but you do the thing I'm like okay you think you're gonna make that turn I better reconsider and then we'll reverse it and then we'll go around but yeah do you know I mean I think for me those are some of the the memories that you create and that are so unique to that lifestyle do you know I mean and it's it's something that they look back with fondness I find you know any like you say anybody that I know who's like grown up with a farm or had any experience like with farming or the outdoors or whatever it's such a incredible memory that sticks with them yeah yeah i mean as i say for me i'd love my kids to be able to hold on to those memories as they get older as well do they watch down on the farm they do

yeah do they of course they do it's brilliant yeah yeah but have they come and seen you like you know doing your other career at JLS, like performing? Have they been to the gigs? Yeah. I was talking about down on the farm, Rob. I know, but I was also... You just moved it straight on, mate. This is what I've been looking forward to.

Oh, don't we? What do they prefer, down on the farm or your gigs? Oh, don't pretend you care about down on the farm, Rob. You're just interested in JLS. To be honest, a bit of both. I mean... Have they been to the gigs? The first time they went to a concert

was our show on the last tour. Oh, was it? Which was incredible. And they were fully involved. They had all the lights and whatever else, all the merch. They had, you know, all their little hoodies and whatever else.

And we ended up getting pretty much all the JLS kids together, came on stage with us you know so you know those are pretty special moments and and my daughter in particular she actually loved it like she's a little performer so you know she's already said daddy every time we drive past the ot she's like daddy when can we go to the ot i'm like oh anytime we want you know a bit of five guys or whatever we can you know go hang out a bit of social football whatever she's like no no you need to see you can't just walk up to the o2 and do that i have to organize that so she's pleased to go back on tour so she's excited

about that but then you know as i say both of them like they come to work with me sometimes not all the time less now obviously because they've got their own little agendas and you know and schedules and stuff but yeah you know they come to work with with me when I'm filming or whatever I'm up to. Obviously, they're on the farm with me as well from time to time. So yeah, you know, they do both. And, you know, I don't think they know any differently. They've just grown up with both.

So it's just part of what they do. What was it like having your kids at the gig? You're not like beforehand, like looking after them, just about to go on stage at the O2, are you? Oh, yeah. Were they like backstage with you? Yeah, they're backstage. My daughter walks me to stage does she yeah she holds my hand and walks me to stage were they all right just walking out on stage at the o2 because i know i'm shitting

myself she was more my little boy actually funnily enough i mean he's the one who's done most like he's done acting and modeling and all sorts but i think you know it's still 15 16 000 people the o2 isn't it so i think it was it was a big deal and he's overwhelming he's one of the oldest so i think there's that you know sort of sense of responsibility yeah whereas the younger just sort of tearing around you know they don't care if they go and pull down one of the lights today they're just there to have fun so i imagine they got cheered though when i brought my daughter on stage in front of 700 people in bromley um she got heckled really they won't tell us a joke i was like mate she's four just let her get this joke out and let's

move on oh dear so just your son model you said yeah yeah well to be fair they've both done a few bits and pieces but yeah my little boy well he started about 18 months, two years. Did he? So how'd you get into child modeling? To be fair, we've got a friend who's in PR. So she looks after loads of different brands and obviously a great friend of ours.

And she just asked him to come and be involved in something that she was doing like a sort of press day. So that was his first job, if you want to call it that. But then, yeah, since then he's worked with, you know,

a couple of sort of agencies and my wife, Chloe was a professional dancer so she's got you know lots of links to agents and stuff like that and yeah over the years he's been involved in you know BBC dramas and he did Granch's stuff oh wow they both did something actually together in the lockdown a drama called Chloe but yeah so they both did that and um yeah you know he does stuff on marks and spencers as well yeah he does loads to be fair amazing do you get obviously because they get paid like pretty well sometimes those kind of things does that go in a little like savings account for him for when he's older yeah yeah so for both of them or do you just stick it on like the holiday this year and go come on you want a holiday you gotta pay for it we do a little thing with him whereby

if he's whatever he's done you know and we do a little thing with him whereby if he's whatever he's done you know and we sort of like add it all up because he's old enough to do that now we'll add it all up and we'll just say to him right you can buy one thing for yourself whatever it is yeah and usually we do that around new year when all the sales and stuff coming so you can buy one thing for yourself because you've you know you've worked really hard this year and that's something that i you know i grew up doing and both you know my wife as well and her family grew up doing as well you know you work hard and then you can treat yourself you know and obviously it's important to teach him about money and stuff but it's also like it's funny because he goes from christmas saying i

want a ps5 i wanted this i wanted that to all of a sudden it's like okay well you can get that if you want with your own money and it's like oh no, well, you can get that if you want, with your own money. And it's like, oh, no, actually. Maybe I'll get a water bottle. So, no, but, you know, he loves it. And, you know, obviously we just kind of support him as he's going through it. He does lots of football as well. So, you know, he's a busy old boy. How do kids pay tax?

If you're 18 months, you've done a model in shoe obviously they get their allowance don't they i don't know what it is if you i don't know just say you were like i don't know dakota fanning or someone in a proper hollywood mood how does it work yeah radcliffe must have had a fucking massive tax bill after harry potter you know what i mean yes he got a limited company at the age of 12? I have no idea. I don't know how it works, but I think they can be taxed. So, yeah, I need to... He's not earned that much just yet,

but I need to... We know as soon as you finish this, you're going to be Googling that in a panic. Literally. When he goes on set, are you... How does it work?

Do one of you accompany him on set, or does it... Because they're not allowed to work long hours and stuff, are they, how does it work? Do one of you accompany him on set or does it, because they're not allowed to like work long hours and stuff, are they kids? There's like rules around that. Yeah, no, there's definitely rules around it. My wife is a guru with that. She handles all of that.

That's her domain. I've done a few bits and pieces, always one together, but usually she'll sort of manage that. And so what you can do is you can be a licensed chaperone. So you can go as a parent, but officially be sort of, you know, keep their hours and, you know, log all their data and stuff like that. And there are strict hours. So like we did a show last year together as a family called Cooking with the

Girls and literally all four of us were involved in it. And my daughter at the time was only three. So it was a bit tough with her just making sure she had the right hours and stuff like that. And of course they wanted both kids to be involved in it it and she can only do like three hours or two hours or something like that so basically they had to like literally half an hour cooking right here offset and she can only be on set for a number of hours age wasn't too bad and he's getting to that age now where actually i think his hours can extend and he can he's not quite on the same as an adult but you know can do a full day.

Yeah. Kids do have to pay tax, by the way, JB, just so you know. Do they? They do have to pay tax, but they get a tax-free allowance like adults up to 12 grand,

something like 12,570. So if they earn more over that, so Radcliffe would have to pay tax on his Harry Potter doll. I'm sure he got paid more than that, but you don't have to pay national insurance until you're 16. Okay. Good to know. That's all dollar. I'm sure he got paid more than that. But you don't have to pay national insurance until you're 16. Okay. Good to know.

See, this podcast is boring sometimes. Sometimes. We can't help the fact it's boring. Well, I learnt something just then and I appreciate that, that's for sure. I didn't want JB to be brought down by a tax man from coming on our podcast.

Yeah, Rob, Google whether JB's son or JB will be the one that goes to prison. That's the question. Imagine young offenders. What are you in for? Yeah, a bit of white collar stuff. I'm sure the tax office understands it's a grey area with children earning money,

so I'm sure they'll be very understanding. Prison for geniuses. On Down on the Farm. He loves it. You have kids on that, right? Yes. What's that like working with them? Are they ever annoying?

For the most part. For the most part. Let's not talk about the most part then. Which one's annoying? No, no, no, no, no. They're not annoying. They're like cats. After a while, you get used to them. No one's annoying. no no they're not annoying they're like cats after a

while you get used to no one's annoying it's just obviously you can imagine the attention span of a child is generally speaking yeah shorter than for an adult yeah yeah and with filming as i'm sure you guys will appreciate understand when you've got four cameras on something it's great and you can do it once and it's done everything's in the bag when you gotta do it three four five times but you only have one camera it's a bit of a different story and bless these kids sometimes they just have enough they don't want to do it before time yeah they want to do it once and they're literally just like but i just said that and then you ask them so what's your favorite fruit and they say cherries because it's about cherries that day and then you say the fourth

time what's your favorite fruit strawberries and you're just like no no no no you need to say cherry and then you ask again pineapple and that's when you're just like you need to have it on the first one i think kids express what adults feel but say out loud yeah because when you're you know you're probably something i don't really want to say cherries again but you do it because you're a professional you're at work but a kid goes i don't want to do this this is boring now literally and to be fair i mean there's some incredible kids and being involved in a show like i had one little boy went to his family's farm so it wasn't it's his uncle i think or his aunt and he was always there and he you know we were doing this thing and it was the heat of summer and i wasn't it's his uncle i think or his aunt and he was always there and he you know we

were doing this thing and it was in the heat of summer and i wasn't thinking straight so i kept fluffing all my all my lines all my stuff that i had to say and he you know that third or fourth time that i did it he just went oh my days it's can you just get it right? I'm done. You do my job. You might as well get paid the big bucks. And we'll call it a day. Brilliant.

But then you reported into the HMRC about his tax. So you won that one. It's stuff like that, you know, that sticks with you. And, you know, they say don't work with animals and children. I love working with both. Yeah, you've hit the double, haven't you? Animals and and children because i did a filming with my dog for crafts and it was carnage yeah filming with a dog also it's not the dog the cameraman at one point no the director said yeah rob can you reposition fred he's just in the back of his head i went no it's a dog it will move he will stand and sit however he wants. That's exactly it.

Do you ever hang out with the other CBBC presenters? Sometimes. Do you ever see them? I don't see them often. But, yeah, obviously, you know. Who have you met? Andy? Yeah, well, obviously, I've met them all.

I've been to the Panto, CBBC's Panto. Oh, yeah. Yes. I've seen them there. And we went to, we did, like, the CBBC's Big Day Out. You know, the big days out. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I've been them there. And we went to, we did like the CBB's Big Day Out. You know, the Big Days Out. Oh yeah.

Yeah. I've been to that with the kids as well. And they did like an opening for, at Alton Towers, haven't they got like a CBB's Land or CBB's World? Yeah, they have.

Yeah. I'm going there soon. It's brilliant. It's brilliant. Is it good? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Nice. But like, well, Kiara, she's four, she'd love it. She's just perfect for their age, sort of three,

four. And then, yeah, so we went to that. So like Kat was there and Kat's left now. She had a few babies. Oh, hello. Oh, hello. Kiara.

Hello. But yeah, Kat was there and, you know, it's a lot of the presenters and stuff and it was good fun. Oh, that's nice. The book, just another plug for the book, is out 27th of April. Yeah. Ace. I love the way she just did it. And the animals.

Just for people that aren't watching. Obviously aren't watching because it's a podcast. Your daughter just disappeared out of the screen like she was doing that thing where you pretend you're in a lift. She just kind of... Did she fall off the chair? No, my kids are well trained. They know if I'm on a call, they need to be quiet.

She just like snuck in. Oh, bless her. I think I've been to the JLS boys or something but she tried to make herself scared well you forget sometimes when it's

Easter holidays when you book stuff in and you go okay there'll be children in the house then and they're all screaming and you're like I need to do this

my little boy just now when I said to you that he can buy something you know once a year he can buy something and I'm like football cards

and I'm like no no every month you buy those well good luck with the book Ace and the Animal Heroes out the 27th of April and I look forward to the the new series

involving your daughter's name to keep her happy yeah I've got to get to work now thanks Rob yeah exactly good luck with it mate cheers oh the final question we didn't ask the final question josh oh final

question final question go on who is the member of jls you like the least the final question is what one you're about asking the final question rob i always mess it up but here we go what one thing does your wife do parenting wisewise that you're like, that is just unbelievable, I couldn't do that myself? And what one thing does she do as a parent that really annoys you, but you haven't brought it up with her, but if she were to listen to this, is a good way of her finding out? She's in the room, so she's already listening. The one thing that she does that I couldn't do is manage everything.

I don't understand how she gets everything done when she's by herself. Because as you can imagine, I travel a lot and she just makes it work. And then I come home and she goes to work or does, you know, a few meetings or she's out for the day or even overnight. And obviously, you know, I'm hands on and I do it and, you know, it gets done, but I don't run it like she runs it and i don't i don't know how she does it unbelievable um and are you talking about parenting one thing that that yeah yeah or you can just go about a personality if you want that's up to you if you just want to

take her down as a human being that's more you're more than welcome that's on you though i'm definitely not taking that because he's my wife parenting that i don't get uh that sort of frustrates you a bit you don't really agree with the way she does it it's very difficult when you're staring at the person you're talking about but this is actually giving an extra layer she's laughing at me now sits in on podcast records to make sure what you say is correct. One thing that I don't, that really frustrates me is... Oh, that's it. I've got it. You're so pleased about it. I thought that.

She's getting out of it now. But obviously our daughter was, you know, just going through that phase where, you know, an hour or two long journey is a long time. So we still have a potty. She'll take it with us every now and again have to use it and my wife insists obviously if it's a number two yeah you keep that so you can get to a toilet and dispose yeah appropriately if it's a number one and we're on the i don't know the side of the motorway somewhere and there's grass and fields

and whatever i'm like why are you keeping a souvenir of our daughter's week empty it just chuck it out yeah i'm never honest and then you get it in the car and i'm just like i'm chucking it about obviously as you do emptying all the stuff and i'm just like ah it's full of weed little pot. That's the one thing that I definitely... Fair enough. It's a good one. It was worth it. It was good. Cheers, JB.

Good luck with the book, mate. Good luck with the book and the tour. No worries. Thank you so much. Cheers, mate. Cheers, mate. Bye.

JB there. Oh, there we go. That shows our skills, Rob. JB there. JB. Yes, we're harmonising. Yeah. Is that harmonisingising JB from JLS

oh I didn't ask you what JLS stands for I could google it just a little soul right do you want to know what JLS stands for to end the episode

go on what does JLS stand for seamless smooth that was oh Jack the Lad Swing the worst name in history I was not expecting that Smooth, that was. Oh, Jack the Lad Swing.

The worst name in history. I was not expecting that. That, and I love the JLS lads, is the shittest. Jack the Lad Swing. Yeah. But then it shouldn't be JTLS. Oh, wow. They were originally called UFO.

Do you want to know what that stands for? No. They were originally called UFO Which stood for Unique, Famous, Outrageous That is very mid-naughty isn't it? Yeah They actually I remember they turned up As a band already didn't they?

They must be one of the most successful people On X Factor mustn't they? Yeah but they weren't put together They turned up in like Little pastel t-shirts didn't they? Yeah They're actually pretty good Chalice Yeah they are They pastel t-shirts didn't they yeah they're actually pretty good chalice

yeah they are they didn't win they didn't win they lost but yeah I remember when they first come on look at who do they lose

to Rob erm no idea Alexandra Burke Berkey Berkey anyway Josh I'll see you on

Tuesday see you on Tuesday see you then bye bye