Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S6 EP35: Mike Bubbins

Episode Date: May 9, 2023

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant comedian - Mike Bubbins. We highly recommend Mike's podcast 'The Socially Distant Sports Bar' https://open.spotify.com/show/32TCAZClErWNRfDoI2YD2d?si=l7lLfXcbTmC7nlkd27s7Qw&nd=1 Parenting Hell is available exclusively (for free!) only on Spotify every Tuesday and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Whittacombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or, hopefully, how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with advice and of course tales of parenting woe because let's be

honest there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing hello you're listening to parenting hell with can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. Can you say Josh Wigleyworm? No, it's Josh Wigdycum. Very nice. There we go. A little bit of back and forth, a bit of French and Saunders there. They're doing edge of the run. This is my eight-year-old Liliana encouraging my six-year-old Rosalia to say your names.

We talk a lot about the podcast and they like to listen to the other intros. They've now adopted calling you Josh Wigglyworm. Absolutely love the poddy. I live for Tuesdays and Fridays. Kelly from Essex, 455 months. What's that, 40? Oh, lovely stuff, Josh. Lovely stuff.

Josh, I think we need to be open with the audience. It's been a very stressful start this morning. Yeah, my fault, my fault. We started a bit late. What happened, Josh? Well, I had the time to do the nursery run because we moved it from 9 to 9.30. So your youngest is still in nursery because that's not term time. That's just...

That's not term time. That's all the way through. But is your daughter off school? Yeah, although she was going to go in. But now she's going to the zoo. She was going to go to play scheme. Yeah. How many days have you booked in for sort of,

you know, there's like Easter camp or whatever it is. Well, there's only, there's four available. For the whole two weeks? This week, there's none next week. Right. So she wanted to do all four, I'll be honest with you. It was quite a hammer blow to us. But she wanted to do all of them.

Most people have to convince the kids to go in for more. Yeah, no, I know. Nah, I don't fancy it here, actually. Not for me. I'm not saying she's a nerd, but she took up the option of four more days of school voluntarily. Well, it's not school, though. It's fun, more fun, isn't it?

Yeah, well, she liked all the things because they were making things. Yeah, oh, that's good. And they listed what they were doing. She was like, yeah, I want to do that day, and that day, and that day, and that day. But she's not, though, now. No, she's going to the zoo instead. Oh, that's good. And they listed what they were doing. She was like, yeah, I want to do that day and that day and that day and that day. But she's not though now? No,

she's going to the zoo instead. Oh, that's nice. On her own? Yeah. Yeah. She just fancies it. She's getting the tube to Camden.

I think it's good, isn't it? Letting her have a bit of independence. Yeah, exactly. I'm not really into the zoo so she can enjoy it herself. No,

she's going to the zoo with her cousin. Oh, nice. And adults as well. Yeah, she's quite, it was her friend's birthday yesterday. Oh, yeah. And she going to the zoo with her cousin. Oh, nice. And adults as well. Yeah, she's quite... It was her friend's birthday yesterday. Oh, yeah.

And she went to the party, but we... Because I wasn't around, I dropped her off at her friend's house before the party. And I said, you know, help the mum get the party ready. And she...

Well, she got there and they hadn't done the party bags and she insisted to the mum that they go and buy party bags and did them with her. She likes to impress other parents. But an organizational point of view yeah she likes to to be useful to other parents right okay let's do that oh i'll help you do that kind of thing yeah what goes in a east london party bag hemp some sage to burn well you do get some pretty trendy

party bags going it often seeds. Sustainable shit. Yeah, often seeds, I'd say. Yeah, often seeds. The shittest of all the party bag gifts. Do you think? Yeah, it's hard work. I love a seed. No, you come back from a party,

the last thing I need to be doing is in the garden getting some soil to pot a seed that's going to be overwatered, spill, and just be a shit plant. It will never grow. Basically, mud water on the table for the next week. And then in the bin. Yeah.

Josh why were you late though? That's it. I've not got a problem with it. But you said something went wrong. Yeah. So got in the car. Yeah. I didn't even get in the car.

Got to the car. Yeah. For the nursery run. For the nursery run. And a. This is classic me. Birded chat all over the windscreen. How much are we talking, Josh?

Straight interaction. Took a photo. This guy lives in briefs content. Come on. Yeah. Sling it this way. Oh, there you go. Big old bit.

That is not good, but it's not ruining the visibility, is it? No, but it's right in front of me. I couldn't drive without on the windscreen. So let me guess what you did you put the window wipers on and spread it and it got worse no i attempted to use the windscreen washer yeah obviously it's empty of course it said you don't understand cars of course it's fucking empty tires are flat no petrol well interestingly on the tires i have had a warning that they are under pumped for at least two months that I do need to see about.

Right, Josh, you've got to do that. That is actually dangerous. No, it says I can drive, but I can't go over 80 miles an hour, which obviously I don't do anyway because you know who I am. Yeah. So you was late because of a bird poo on the windscreen. Well, then I had to go inside. Yeah. Get some hot water, wash it off,

get in the car. Obviously, there's not enough petrol to get to and from nursery. Oh, my God. Yep. So I had to go to the petrol station. The petrol station. Yeah.

After drop-off. It's always stressful with a baby in the car, isn't it? Yeah. You can't really leave them. No. So there we go. You always see that stressed parent

with a baby on their hip and a toddler up their side when they're trying to pay for petrol and you think, be really low oh my god yeah if they can't do it on the way back from wherever they're going yeah so you guys get petrol and the bird shit in the car windscreen but you're in there was anything else or no that was the reason i'd say josh i was worried something bad happened can i play your um voice note yeah what happened here. Yeah. Here we go. Guys, I'm having an absolute car shocker. I think that's fair. We did 940.

I've just, it's been a disaster. My morning has been an absolute effing disaster. I'd argue that wasn't a disaster. No, I know. I'd say

you needed petrol. I think I'm being melodramatic. Yeah. I'd say you just needed some petrol and there was a bird pill in your car, but absolute disaster.

I thought you'd crashed. Not a bad bad one but i thought you'd like hunt into someone at to exchange a couple hundred quid's worth but you have to go for insurance exchange details yeah no then you said this feel free to use that message the good news is i've got an anecdote the bad news is my life's out of control i think think my life is out of control. I've got no petrol, no windscreen washer, and my tyres are flat. And I've parked under a tree without realising it. I'd argue both of them aren't true. I don't think you've got an anecdote out of it. I don't think your life's out of control, Josh. I think, yeah, I think you're definitely right on the anecdote.

But I do think maybe you're too busy to right on the anecdote but I do think maybe you're too busy to do with a little normal life admin jobs and then when they mount up nothing works does it

no that's the issue there we go should we bring on our guest a man with an anecdote this guy more than one anecdote this guy

fucking hell I love Mike Bubbins in it we agree like a body transformation sort of deal don't we which is something to look forward to

oh yeah so we've got to get in shape for that Josh yeah I'd forgotten about that here's Mike Bubbins very funny man he's on tour

go and see him hello Mike Bubbins hello hi Josh how are you mate hello and Rob's here as well hey Rob how are you pal

hello Mike thanks for doing this we're very excited my pleasure you know I've got nothing else to do literally nothing else to do

oh I'm sorry about that well I'm waiting for a town planner to come around um really that's my day a town planner i'm not gonna plan a town what plans have you got i'm gonna build my own new town bevin's new town in the south wales area maybe the welsh milton kings i cannot wait it's pure roundabouts everywhere yeah yeah what's the town planner coming round for? Yeah, what are you doing? An extension? No, I want to build a garage for my classic cars.

Oh. Here we go. But that sounds posher than it is, really. They're just old Fords and old Pontiacs. But where's that? On another bit of land or by your house? It'll be in my house, but it's in front of the front of the house, you see, Rob.

So planning-wise, it's a grey area. Okay, and that's what he's coming round to have a look at. It's quite a high pressure chat, that, isn't it? Oh, big time, yeah. And there's also a tree preservation order to negotiate, so... Okay, but they don't understand you're trying to preserve your cars. Well, exactly, mate. You know, my car is to me what that tree is to

a wood sparrow. And when's the sparrows meeting? I'm going to stop them building the nest, do I? I just find it hard to know how charming or matey to be with that town planning type. You know people that have a hold over you? Oh, yeah. They can say yes or no to your plans. I can never get it right.

I always feel like I'm going too hard. Yeah, it is hard not to over-try, as that was. Yeah. Hello, mate, you all right? I'm coming. Do you want a cup of tea? Yeah, do you want to pick me on holiday? Where do you want to go?

You all right? Anything I can do? Does this guy hold your future in his hands, or is he trying to help you? I think he's trying to help me. All right, so he's not making the decision. But he can tell, Josh, that I'm a kindred spirit. I'm interested in preserving the character of the area

as anybody else. Yeah, of course. Yeah. You love that tree. If I can do that while chopping down trees in the garage, I will. I don't think anyone could accuse you of being too modern, Mike. There's no way that anyone's going, the problem with Mike Bovins is he's got no time for the past.

We should explain your vibe to sort of new listeners, Mike, because, you know, you're sort of, well, you're good pals of Ellis James, who's been on the pod a few times. You're obviously a parent, which is why you're here. Another stand-up comedian. But also, you're very 70s, aren't you, in your look and your style?

I do like that era, Rob, yeah. I like the cars and the telly and the clothes. So what are you wearing today, Mike? We can see you, but it's... Well, I'm just wearing sort of one of my typical type of shirts. This one's probably a little more dressed down than normal. I'm wearing a moustache. Yep.

I'm wearing sideburns. Sure. I'm sat in front of a rather large portrait of Burt Reynolds in Smokey the Bandit. And a 70s table there. There we go. See, I would argue, for the listener to picture it, on a normal day for you,

you could be mistaken as someone heading to Butlins for a 70s weekender. Yeah. Or like, you know, like Ron Jeremy, who got lost on the way to set. Yes. Yeah, I think he's got lost and gone to prison recently on a current... Yeah, well, he's been disgraced.

It was bad enough being compared to him before. You know that porn star you look like? Now it's got worse for you on the page. Yeah, it's good news and bad news. We should probably talk about your kids at some point. But I want to use that to lead into your child. Okay. Does your child...

Sorry, what have you got? You've got a boy who's 12, right? Something like that? He just turned 13. Just turned 13. My little girl's 10. Lovely. And your little girl's 10.

So how do they feel? Because when I was growing up, my dad had a ponytail. And I found that that, you know. Yeah, you've been tired of the same brush then, haven't you? You don't like difference when you're a kid and your parents. How do they feel when you turn up in your Ford Cortina from the 70s, dressed as Ron Jeremy at the school gates? Is that something they're excited by or?

My son gets moderately embarrassed by me i think yeah my daughter is of an artistic bent like i am so she will happily go to the shops dressed as a wizard from harry potter or you know roller skate songs she doesn't care about that stuff but my son my son uh i do try to keep embarrassing him to a minimum but i mean there's only so much i can do yeah yeah of course my face is my face my clothes are my clothes what i'd say though is your personality wise very sort of gregarious chatty and so much I can do. Yeah, of course. My face is my face, my clothes are my clothes. What I'd say though is your personality wise, very sort of gregarious,

chatty and, you know, obviously, you know, artistic and sort of like flamboyant in your outfits and stuff, but I'd put you down

as sort of quite a normal Welsh bloke. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think. Like you can chat to anyone. It's not like you sort of go off on weird flights of fancy

when you're talking about stuff, you know. No. You like a drink, you like the rugby, you like sport. That's quite like you sort of go off on weird flights of fancy when you're talking about stuff, you know. No. You like a drink, you like the rugby, you like sport. That's quite a Welsh dad. Sue me. Sue me. It is, you know.

Alice and Steph, who I do the other pod with, are amazed that I spend, when I finish gigs, I tend to spend an hour or two having a drink with everybody after the gig. Really? Do you? And then on a few of these tour gigs, I've gone to the pub with the punters as well afterwards and just had a game of pool and a few pints.

It's been lovely, yeah. Bloody hell, Mike. Great, isn't it? Because I'm at that level where we're doing decent-sized venues. I couldn't do it if I was doing the O2. No. I'd have a bloody good go at that. Need a big pool table.

But we've got like a 200, 300-seater theatre, nice, perfect size to go on the razzle with the punters, isn't it? Now, one thing I know from your Instagram is your parenting-wise, and I don't think we've had this yet, you are the coach of your son's rugby team. Is that right? I am.

I have been since they were under sevens, and they're under thirteens now, yeah. And what's that like as a job? What are the other parents like? The parents are very nice. It's a nice club. The other thing that you might not be a parent from Instagram, of course, is that it's a welsh language rugby club right so my son's in

welsh language i don't speak welsh i'm a welsh learner so i do try to coach them in welsh and english which is interesting wow yeah yeah i'll say what's one of the most like common things you say i played football growing up and it would be when you're young stop bunching stop bunching so i don't know what the equivalent is in rugby when they're young. What is it they're doing a lot of? You might say edrachavani, which is look up,

so you're not playing with your eyes down, look up. Pasiuch arahuit, which is pass to the left, pasiuch arah, there, pass to the right. Aros, stop. Stop.

Fuck off, what are you doing? You didn't do that in training. I thought stop was araf. Or was that araf slow? Araf is slow, yeah. Araf. That single F is a soft F. It's like a-rav slow? A-rav is slow, yeah. A-rav. That single F is a soft F. It's like a V, Rob.

Yeah, that's from the motorways. A-rav. A-rav. A-rav. Okay, good to know. Because when you drive into Wales, you get told to a-rav a lot on the motorway. You do, don't you?

Yeah. Yeah, it's an absolute a-rav frenzy. I think English comics always make a hilarious gag about giraffes, usually at gigs, which is always funny. Do that. Giraffes for a-rav? Oh, no, that's poor. Yeah, I know it is poor.

It is poor. That is weak. But some people haven't got the chops and they panic. That's life. That's it, mate. I'm guilty of the same thing, you know. And we've all been there. Do you worry about being seen to give your son

special treatment in the rugby team? I feel bad for him because there's a fella called Dave Young who coaches Cardiff and his son plays as well. And he talked recently about he felt he went harder on his son to not look biased. And that's a real balance now. I will pick him up in training more if I pick

up other kids and I will say stuff to him during a game that I might not say to other kids. When we go home, I have to say, listen mate, I'm not picking on you but there's things I can say to you that I can't say to other people and they'll listen to me saying it to you and they might stick a bit. But loving him is hard though, isn't it?'s things I can say to you that I can't say to other people, and they'll listen to me saying it to you, and it might stick a bit. But I love him. It's hard, though, isn't it?

I feel like I had to drop him from games. No, he's luckily our best player. He's like his dad. Yeah, I mean, because that's the issue, isn't it? For the good of the team. Oh, yeah. But if he is a good player, then that takes that pressure off you, doesn't it?

If he was crap, I wouldn't coach him, because I couldn't face it. So when did you realise he wasn't crap? When he got picked for the city, the county said a year early when he was like nine. So he was playing under 11s when he was nine. Right. That was fine then. They went to Dublin on a tour.

It was great. I went over with him. That was his first trip away from Wales really. It was a rugby tour. Oh, wow. Like two nights in Dublin with a family that he'd never had a sleepover at a mate house before. Oh, really?

And then he's, I'm getting this rugby club inlin meeting this irish family and he's off for three days yeah it's weird very strange it's good though sport it does help them like you know with working in a team experience new stuff and things like that well i'm an xp teacher so i'm always going to be a bit biased but i mean i do think it is the best thing for kids it hasn't got to be team sport but just doing something where you you know you've got to work hard and there's a bit of a meritocracy going on. And is there a chance he's going to make it? Are you looking at

a professional rugby player here potentially? He could be if that's what he wants to do and gets his head down. There's no reason why he can't do it. He's got the talent there

and I think he'll have the physical attributes of a walker as well. Yeah, Puberty's a big deal in rugby, isn't it? No, he's a big... He's a difference maker at that age.

Under 13s to 115s there's some players big hairy nuts ploughing through other teams with no skill whatsoever well I've always

worked on him with the passing and the kicking because there's nothing worse than that mate when you see it yeah

you know and some parents love that and they go oh yeah it'll drive him out I think he's learning nothing

mate I know there's any other kid on that pitch he's just being bigger yeah and he'll be bigger

until he's about 15 and everyone will catch you up and then just be the crap kid with no skills. Yeah. Are you having to deal with touchline parents being wankers?

Unbelievable, mate. Really? And don't believe the hype that it's just football because that is not true. I didn't know there was hype. Well, no, there's a sort of... Oh, rugby fans think they're good,

don't they? There's a bit of a snobbery with rugby. The people think that, you know... Oh, that gentleman playing... It's absolute bollocks. A sport for hooligans by gentlemen

and a sport for gentlemen played by... Yeah, well, yeah. I hate rugby. Thanks, mate. No, do you know what? I hate English rugby. Yeah, English rugby.

The same way when you go to Scotland, Ireland or Wales, it's a totally different sport played by totally different people. There's an elitism in England with rugby. Yeah, very much so

rugby league's different whereas Welsh football has got those poncy twats like Ellis James that's where the poncy wankers are those glory hunters who don't even have

the decency to live in Wales proper plastic Welsh people who live in London for their extra dollar you know what I mean yeah I think that's why Ellis James goes over the top

with all the Welsh language stuff just because he knows he's not really Welsh anymore. I've got nothing to prove, mate. I've got nothing to prove. He's lived in London longer than he's lived in Wales. Yeah, of course he has. What does that make him?

I'm making less money here because I love my country. Good for you, Mike. Thanks, mate. But you do get the parents and the coaches who give you a really hard time. And my problem is I've always had a fairly short fuse. Right. I mean, I refereed the first half of a game last week

and it got so fractious that I just said, I'm not doing the second half. That's fine. You can referee it. I don't need those bollocks. Did you? I gave someone else the whistle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because I have the coach and the players on the pitch swearing at me at an under-13 rugby game. Fuck. Was your team playing as well, or was it? Yeah, my boys' team was playing. And we just happened to be a lot better than they were. But rather than think, well, we're getting beaten by five tries in the first half

because we're not as good, they think this must be the referee's fault because we can't possibly be that bad. And are you sending them off and stuff? Well, I sent the kid off right towards the end. I said, if you swear at me again, so if you've got something to say to me, talk to the captain, he can have a chat with me.

But if you're going to swear at me again, I am going to send somebody off. So how old's this kid? 13. 13. And what did he call you? Oh, he just said, fuck off, you c***.

Fairly, you know, standard. Standard swear. So I sent him off. You can't do that. Yeah. That's so bad, isn't it? I gave a scrum against them. And he said that to me.

So I said, off you go. I've told you, go on. Yeah. And I said, there's a penalty now, not a scrum for that. You're off. Yeah. So their coach then said, call that half time time we'll bring him all off I says not

half time is two minutes to go we're calling the half time I said you're not the referee so we took his team off yeah I would seem to leave in and I said we go so come back I said no that's half time okay they've got to learn they've got to learn I mean they won't but you know

oh wow oh that's amazing and does your daughter play rugby as well she had a go at it she tried for a bit she sort of mastered the sort of defensive

sidestep but it's not really her thing she tried football tried rugby I think she likes hockey she loves singing and dancing

and acting that sort of thing oh really just not as bothered no she just thinks it. I think she likes hockey. She loves singing and dancing and acting, that sort of thing. Oh, really? Just not as bothered? No, she just thinks it's pointless. And she's got a point. I mean, when you break it down, bubble and rugby are a bit daft. It is pointless.

Well, imagine if she's on the sidelines and she's watching her dad and brother not play rugby because they're arguing and being sworn at in the rain. You sort of think, is this what I want to be doing? It's just not me. Get me back on doing the Frozen soundtrack. that sort of stuff she never saw that and how your son obviously he's growing up now getting a bit older getting bigger and the next few years he's sort of going to develop into a man yeah how's that going to feel for you if he's bigger than you and stronger than you well he will be he's like a rutting stag now he's 13 yeah he's

going to be over six four six five ben when'5", Ben, when he finishes. Oh, my God. Well, if you look at all the sort of metrics, yeah. So have you looked at the metrics? You've looked at the metrics. Oh, yeah, from a young age.

So go on. Well, you'll be measuring him up on, like, the percentile chart because they always tell you. Yeah, yeah. Look at the percentile chart, see where he's going to be.

And size is a good indicator of athletic prowess, so is foot size. So, you know. Brilliant. It's like having Richard Williams on there. I've got to think

of the retirement, Rob rob so if they've got bigger feet when they're younger or slightly taller for their age that mean they'll bring you better at athletics and sports yeah hands and feet that really could indicate this usually right okay things are easier to you i bought a lovely pair of copper monday hours for myself yeah referee it i like whatever pair as well so i bought tens he's ins. He's in 9s. He's in 9s. That's what I wear. But they're a bit too small for him now. So he's going to be in 10s now. So he'll be in size 10 shoes. You know, he's in year

8. Bloody hell. So how tall are you, Mike? I'm 6 foot. You're 6 foot. So where's it come from? Because your wife's not that tall, is she? Yeah, no, she's not. She's not very tall. Yeah, I mean, at night Mike goes in and stretches him for an hour, don't you? Yeah. A couple of bungee calls. But apart from that...

He does some rigorous physical exercises on the golf course. Well, my eldest is a bit like your youngest, not really that bothered about sport and would just always prefer to do art and sing and dance and stuff. And my younger one, she loves sport and she's got the same size feet as her sister, even though she's two years younger.

There you go, Rob. See, I'm telling you, I'm telling you. And she's got the same size feet as her sister even though she's two years younger here you go rob see i'm telling you telling you and she's like stuff she just sort of she just took to going on a scooter quite easily and stuff but yeah i think you can see from an early age of like their balance and like it's just if you can naturally just get on with it at a younger age well my daughter loves that stuff she picked up ice skating straight away and roller skating she skateboards you know she she loves all that sort of stuff yeah but she's just not sporty just like to do her own thing she'll skate around the house in her skates you know, she loves all that sort of stuff. Yeah. But she's just not sporty, just likes to do her own thing. She'll skate around the house in her skates, you know. And do they like Elvis?

Because you're obviously defined yourself as an Elvis fan, the world's biggest Elvis fan. Very touchy, very touchy subject. Is it? Because they're aware that he's actually hugely overrated. Joshua. They were weaned on Elvis and then of their own volition, they've strayed away from the path of righteousness. They don't really... It's heartbreaking.

I got videos of the kids when they were little. I used to sing the same sort of Elvis songs to them, get them singing, join in with the dancing, give them a microphone. Because you were an Elvis impersonator before you were a comedian, just for people that don't know. We prefer the phrase Elvis tribute artist. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. There is in Wales a massive Elvis convention, isn't there?

It's huge. Porthcawl, is it? Porthcawl, yes, the world's. There is in Wales a massive Elvis convention, isn't there? It's huge. Porthcawl, is it? Porthcawl, yes. The world's biggest, according to their website. The world's biggest Elvis meet-up, isn't it? It is. Every third weekend of September. Yeah, because I was there the week before,

and they were like, oh, you should have come next week. Yeah, yeah. I was like, really? If you love Elvis or dickheads, get down there, because there'll be loads of them. Did you ever go? Every year, yeah. I used to host the main tent there,

the Graceland Marquee. All right, mate, stop bragging. We've all got jobs. We've all had gigs, mate. Come on. It was good fun. I love the King. But the kid's not into him.

No, they're not now. And it is, it's one of those things, the two things that upset me about the kids growing up, the one is they can't remember my mother anymore. And it is, it's one of those things. The two things that upset me about the kids growing up, the one is they can't remember my mother anymore. And then just behind that, almost on a level peg,

they don't like Elvis anymore. Really? Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, so did your mum pass away when they were younger then? No, she lives down the road. They just don't see each other anymore. They just don't talk.

Yeah, because she loves Elvis. No, so my mum passed away when they were like two and five, I think. And I think love them because they're such nice kids. We all think our kids are nice. They would sort of lie for a while about how much they remembered my mother. And I thought one day, this is not... Start saying stuff from Mary Poppins. The umbrella she used to arrive on.

She wasn't in the Jamaican bobsled team. What are you talking about? You know, she used to kiss the egg for luck. Yeah, so... But the Elvis thing is weird, isn't it? I'm thinking they might come back around to it. Yeah. Well, the film's great,

so I think that will get new people into it. The film is fantastic, isn't it? So good. I saw it three times in the cinema in a week. I haven't done that before. I'd love the bloke selling the tickets, seeing you turn up looking like Elvis back again, mate. Yeah, yeah.

Elvis again? Yeah, no problem. In you go. Well, with the moustache, I don't get that anymore. Because I had the sideburns and the hair. Yeah, because I met you years ago at a gig, and I think you were still in sort of very Elvis-y sort of mode. I don't think you had the moustache.

And I didn't know if you was doing Elvis stuff or not, but you still looked enough like Elvis. You look like Elvis on a travel day not a show day so he didn't have like the full white suit on but just enough

to go what is he I don't know what's happening here I don't know what he's going to do when he gets on stage maybe you're doing like a breakfast radio show interview but you're not doing

a full performance yeah he's got a jazzy shirt on but shorts that sort of thing exactly Elvis but not as you know it. Do you think your want for them to like Elvis

is the thing that puts them off? Do you know what I mean? It's that... It might well be that. Yeah. I think there's a bit of that rebellion going on, especially with my son. Apart from the rugby,

not liking the things that I like. What does he like? Well, he loves... He's told me he's going to start playing football again next year. So there's that. He'd be a goalkeeper. Big lad. More money in it.

I think he'd be in a good centre-half, I think. How would you feel if you played football over rugby and he could have gone pro in both? I'd feel immeasurably richer if he did the football. I'd be loving it. What about if he became a professional rugby player, but due to, you know, a relative, he represented England? Do you know what?

This would depend entirely on whether he'd been offered to play for Wales first. So I remember when I was playing sort of national level rugby as a youngster at 18, so I was in the Welsh school squad at that age, and me saying to my mother, because my dad was born in Sussex, right, but he's Welsh, but born in England.

So you're not even Welsh, Mike? You fucking idiot. Well, not really. I mean, I'm just like, you're not fully Welsh, really. I mean, I'm just like, you're not fully Welsh, really. I managed to play for England, it was the thing. So I remember saying that to my mother.

Yeah. And where was she from? She was from the Welsh Valleys, from Merthyr Vale. A staunch Welsh supporter for the rugby. And I said, man, what if I, what if I got offered to play for England? I said, but you know,

England hadn't offered me a place and Wales wouldn't offer me a place. She said, well, what would you do? I said, well, I'd play for England. I said, if I knew that Wales had overlooked me and England wanted to give me a shout, I said, I'd play for England, wouldn't offer me a place. She said, well, what would you do? I said, well, I'd play for England. I said, if I knew that Wales had overlooked me and England wanted to give me a shout, I said, I'd play for England, wouldn't I? She said, well, I wouldn't support you. I said, what do you mean?

I said, well, if Wales played England, I'd want Wales to win, wouldn't I? I said, well, if I was playing for England, you'd want Wales to win? She went, yeah. She said, I'd want you to have a decent game, but I'd want you to get beaten. I said, oh, fair enough.

I think I mean the same sort of thing with my son. I don't know, though. I mean, the English, as you get a little bit older, the, fair enough. So I think I mean the same sort of thing with my son. I don't know though. I mean, the English should, as you get a little bit older, the school system over there seems to be set up quite well for the rugby

and stuff, but I just like him playing in Wales. Like for the reasons that we mentioned earlier, and I'm not being a snob about it, I just think it's all about sort of clubs

and working class over here a bit more. But if football, imagine if he gets, if he doesn't play sport, any sport, I don't care as long as he's happy. How about this, Mike?

He plays sort of as a rotation player for Bournemouth. Yeah. Like if you said, you know, his name, people would go, never heard of him. But he's in a Premier League team, earning really good money, living in Bournemouth, plays sort of 10, 15 games a season. Best of both worlds, isn't it?

60 grand a week and no one knows who you are. Exactly. So nobody knows who he is. And he's on probably say 5 million a year maybe more right or

he plays professional rugby not earning as much but he's a starter for Wales oh Rob and he's on I don't know what

a professional rugby player would get normally but like yeah you'll know what that what would that be half a million quid he's on half a million quid

a year which is decent you know obviously a huge amount of money but great money 5 million's the other but no one knows who he is and he's a million quid. He's on half a million quid a year, which is obviously a huge amount of money. Great money. Five million's the other, but no one knows years.

And he's a starter for Wales, and he's there for 10 years, Six Nations, World Cup. What a horrible conundrum. Well, the parents' answer is you'd want him to be happy, wouldn't you? Yes. It'd be play for Wales, really. You'd still be well off, wouldn't you? Yeah. You'd make half a million quid a year for 10 years. Yeah. Or you could make 10 years salary in one situation. Because you'd still be well off, wouldn't you? Yeah. You'd make a half a million quid a year for 10 years.

Yeah. Yeah. Or you could make 10 years salary in one year. Yeah, but you're never going to spend 200 million quid a year. Well, give it a go.

Yeah. I'd have a good passion in one. Imagine the garage you could build for your cars. It'd be awesome, wouldn't it? It wouldn't be a fucking tree in Cardiff.

So, yeah. What else is he into then as a teenager obviously you bond over the rugby and the football and sport and stuff but is he into

TikTok is it a bit of a yeah he does watch a lot on his phone he plays a lot of FIFA online with his mates just teenage stuff

isn't it he loves his weights he started doing weight training I know he's loving his weight training see that wasn't even a thing

when I was a kid no I can see or as an adult Josh See, that wasn't even a thing when I was a kid. No, I can see. Or as an adult, Josh. How dare you? As a parent, I can consider you to be, you know, you're quite modern and, you know, liberal and I can imagine quite fun as a parent.

How does it differ from the parenting you had growing up in Barry? Ooh, we moved house last year. And my biggest thing is I want the kids to feel that they can bring their mate so many times, they can take what they like out of anywhere, they can play with what they want to do, they can go in the garden, they can do what they want. And all their mates can do the same thing as well.

Yeah. The big difference for me was growing up. I mean, Dad came to see my rugby games and that and Mum was a good mum and everything you know i had a good childhood by 70 standards yeah but um i never felt like it was like an open house i never thought it was my house yeah my friend's house it was like this is very definitely my mum and dad's house yeah i've got to ask permission to stuff and ask permission for this and yeah can this person come over can they do this i never wanted that to be the case yeah i'm my wife. See and not be heard, isn't it, basically,

that you just were like, shut up? Yeah, well, I remember my dad would smoke like in the living room, you know, watching Match of the Day or whatever, you know. He doesn't smoke now, but he smoked a lot back then. I'd be sort of sad, I'd just make these little filters out of yoghurt pots and cornwall. And I'd sit in the corner like some kid

from a 1950s US government commercial just with this thing over my nose, just breathing, trying to filter out the tobacco fumes. Like a dick, you know. No, I mean, what a lovely memory. Yeah, it was lovely. Watched in Grandstand at a gas mask. Well, I think the 70s, because you're slightly, you know,

how old were you in your 40s when you had the kids? Or late 30s? I was, let me work it out now. I was 37 when we had Ben. And I wass? I was, let me work it out now. I was 37 when we had Ben and I was 40 when Lily was born, yeah. Yeah, so you're back,

my dad was about in his 40s when he had us and stuff like that. Did you think that like you weren't going to have kids or what was you thinking? Or was you always going to be

an older parent? It generally never crossed my mind. I was, I was, I thoroughly enjoyed myself in my 20s, going all over the place

and having no responsibilities and then I met Kelly when I was about I was, I enjoyed myself in my twenties, going all over the place and having no responsibilities. And then I met Kelly when I was about 30, 31. And we'd just gone great together. And I was, for the first time in my life, I was thinking, oh, like actually I imagine myself staying with one person for a long time. And that never happened before. So we went out for a couple of years and we got engaged. And then we, and after two years we got married.

All quite traditional. And I was still like mid thirties thinking, loving life, holidays and going hot places and enjoying ourselves. And then then she was like she was sort of 30 then I think this I think with women I've been to cliche. I think the clock starts to tick a little bit as you said, I think we should start family I was like, okay. I never thought of it. I literally never crossed my mind So I said, all right, so, you know, we're not going to, we're obviously a couple, so that's fine. And then, genuinely, what happened was... Would you describe yourself as a deep thinker, Mike?

Seems fine. Yeah, OK, fine. Yeah. She was buzzing. She was buzzing with that. She knew she had the right bloke. So, genuinely, she'll kill me for this as well, is the day we decided, we went to bed that night, and I said, do you want to boy or a girl? She said, boy, please.

And that was it. I got her pregnant with Ben on the first go. Did you? And I just thought, well, that's obviously, I'm an alpha male. This is what happens. And then with my little girl there, a couple of years later, we decide, because the girl's a teacher, she wanted a kid born in the first term. You know, she's been looking at the metrics.

So, you know, she wanted the autumn term. So I said, okay, no problem. Girl this time, okay. Second time, she's like autumn term. So I said, okay, no problem. Girl this time? Okay. Second time took ages. Oh, my God. My daughter was born right at the end of August. She's the youngest kid in the year. Oh, yeah.

We tried for months and months, and we tried everything. It was hilarious. What do you mean, everything? Oh, fucking hell. I can remember we'd have all the sort of charts and when was the best time to have sex and all this sort of stuff. Yeah. And then she'd read that cool semen is more productive. Right.

As in temperature, not like it's got a backwards cap on a skateboard. So you're going to need to just shave off your moustache. I used to go, before I went to bed, I was so unromantic. I used to have a mug, like one of my old coffee mugs, and I'd fill it with chilled water. to bed, I was so unromantic, I'd have a mug, like one of my old coffee mugs, I'd fill it with chilled water. And I'd put my balls in a mug for like five

minutes before I went to bed. And then she'd be doing like upside down cycle kicks and stuff and trying to get things you know, it was all very functional the second time around. Can I ask about the coffee mug? Did that continue as a coffee mug or was that your special nut mug?

That's the guest mug. We get builders' room. Town planners. Town planners going to get your chops right there. Yeah, because it is quite... When you're trying, if it's not happening straight away, it becomes almost like a part-time job. It's non-stop, isn't it?

It's fine, isn't it? And you get a phone call, and you're like, come on, I've got it. It becomes so functional. The mug's in the fridge. All right, thank you. As much as the last conversation won't hint at this,

but you were a teacher. Yeah, yeah. The two are related, but yeah. So you spent your time around kids as well, but you just had no interest. Did that make you want to be a parent? Well, I loved kids. I've always got on well with kids because I'm a bit childish.

These days, I'd probably be diagnosed with ADHD if I was in school. I'm pretty sure. My wife's still a teacher. She said, definitely, definitely, definitely. And when were you a teacher? What decade were you a teacher? 90s? So, 99 to 2007.

Right. Okay, years. Yeah. And what was that like compared to the teaching when you were a kid versus being a teacher when you were a teacher? A lot less violent than when I was in school. I sort of caught the end of corporal punishment, really. Did you? Yeah.

Even though it was illegal, technically, a lot of it went on still. You still got slapped and punched and kicked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bash your heads together and, you know, there was all that sort of stuff still going on. And when that happens, do birds appear or is that just cartoons? Just cartoons, yeah. Bash your heads together and, you know. Fuck. There's all that sort of stuff still going on. Wow. Yeah. And when that happens, do birds appear or is that just cartoons?

Just cartoons, yeah. Okay, cool. Never seen it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your eyes do whirl around like that, though. All right, okay. Yeah. So we know that. Did you enjoy being a teacher?

I loved it. I loved it because I loved being around kids and having a laugh and doing stuff. I didn't like, I was terrible at the paperwork and planning and all that sort of side of things. Awful at that. And so you obviously did parents' evenings? Yeah, yeah. Loved a parents' evening.

Now, obviously your kids are in school. Are you judgmental? Because is your wife a teacher as well? So she's definitely... She's very conscientious and very good at what she does. Right. So when it comes to your parents' evening with your kids when you're going in and any sort of problems at the school,

are you both quite sort of judgmental? Because obviously you know how it works, and especially for her. Are they at her school, by the way? No, no, they're both in Welsh language school. Yes, okay. I think because I taught and she's a teacher, you understand it's bloody hard work teaching.

If you worked it out at an hourly rate, the amount of hours that good teachers put in is phenomenal. So I've got nothing but respect for them. So I've never been one of the judgmental types as a parent i don't think you know you want your kids to get a good education and you want you want the school to be doing their job but you've got to cut them some slack i mean there's so much and i think in in wales it's worse you know her head spend on education is lower in wales the bigger class sizes it's a lot of stress like you know then they don't they don't need extra stress so yeah but then the flip side of that is because especially with because kelly

knows the score because she obviously in her job deals with all that sort of things she knows what they should be getting and what they should be doing and what the way they should be yeah she'll sort of it's a bit good cop bad cop you know so you're going to smooth it over and she'll deliver the the slug i give him a cigarette and kelly comes in and smacks it out of their mouth has your son had a drink yet? I don't think he has. I don't mind if he does. Like I've said to him before, do you want a Chandy or something?

But he doesn't want one. And to be honest with you, and this is really hypocritical, I'd love him not to drink. Yeah. Because I'm a worrier. Because I think I'm such a, I love my kids to bits.

And I am a very overprotective dad. I know that. I'm much too overprotective with them. So I think of all the messes I got myself in on booze. Yeah. As a youngster. I don't want them to do that. And I know that's part of growing up.

I just think, God, I'm terrified now. If they're away for the night, you know, if they go to the shops after school, I'm like, oh my God. Well, because it is part of growing up. But also when you grow up

as a teenager, you'll make mistakes and do things that you look back and cringe, go, oh God, why was I doing that? I was a silly 16 year old. But it's much better

for them to make their mistakes when they've not had 10 pints. Yeah, exactly that. It's sort, exactly that, isn't it? It's sort of an amplifier, isn't it? Where, you know, if you go around the world, there are teenagers that don't just get absolutely shit-faced at the park on side number because we're used to it in the UK. It's insane.

It's a British thing, isn't it? And there's always a politician that will come out and say, we need to have more of a sort of European drinking culture. But that's not our culture, is the thing. Yeah, exactly. It never has been. We don't do that. We just get pissed.

Yeah. That's what British people do. Yeah. We've got a culture it's called getting pissed. So that's the thing. You're not going to get a 15 year old lad

who's going, I'm going to go out and have a glass of wine with dinner. Like... Oh, can you imagine? You know, no. Done with the canal.

Yeah. No. I'll just have a half a Guinness actually for Oh, can you imagine? You know, done with the canal. Yeah. No. I'll just have a half a Guinness, actually, for Paddy's Day, just to celebrate politely. What could happen? I think, though, the younger generation are a bit more interested in going to the gym and their bodies and what they look like

and mental health way more so than they used to. When I was growing up, sports people were people like Tony Adams. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brian Robson. Bill Wurvenick, Alex Higgins, Brian Robson, right? People who were pissheads and sports people. Whereas now, you know, my boy loves Gareth Bale.

Well, Gareth Bale doesn't drink. No. One of his favourite footballers don't drink. Of course he doesn't. He's the world's most boring man. You can't say that to a Welshman, Josh. Good golfer. Great golfer.

He's a good golfer, yeah. Good golfer. Very good footballer. I've got quite a curveball question about a Welsh person. Alex Jones. We had Alex Jones on the pod. She curveball question about a Welsh person. Alex Jones. We had Alex Jones on the pod. She was amazing. Yeah.

Have you met Alex Jones? I have, I have. Yeah. Because I saw a clip of you with Alex Jones in which you failed to break the world record for hugging the most people in a minute. Yes, true. And it was very contentious as well, Josh, might I add. I'd say it was one of the most bizarre clips

I've ever seen in my life. Is it on the one show? It was a thing called Make Wales Happy, which was a high-budget... And impossible task. A relatively high-budget programme made by BBC Wales a couple of years ago. And one section of it was,

I did various experiments about happiness. And at the end of it, they wanted me to break the world-hugging record for a minute. And it had to be different people. It couldn't be the same person twice. So there was a fellow there from the Guinness Book of Records with his blazer and his clipboard.

Live TV was the last segment, and I smashed the old record by about six or seven hugs. But previously, about 2.30 into the hug, into the record attempt, an old lady saw me and sort of stumbled. I don't know if she was, she's not made of wood, obviously, so she got enamored of me. I don't know, something happened. She lost her footing, and I sort of stepped forward to grab her,

gave her a hug, stepped back, kept going. At the end, I was disqualified for leaving my hug mark in the world's best record. Disqualified, I love television. And they said, do you want to go again? And the director's going, we can't, it's live TV. You fucked it, mate. So I was robbed of the world's best record.

Oh, Mike. I know. Absolutely brutal. Yeah, yeah. Mike, I wanted. Absolutely brutal. Yeah, yeah. Mike, I wanted to ask you another question as well. I've sort of followed your fitness journey on Instagram where I think it was in lockdown you sort of lost a lot of weight and got very muscly.

I got buff again, didn't I? You got really buff. How old you must have been? What, like in your 40s then when you was doing that? 48. So I think sometimes the dad bod thing and then sometimes when you become a dad you get i think sometimes the dad bod thing and then sometimes when you become a dad you get busy you start eating crap and that's when it's sort of you

start to lose it don't you yeah i want to try and get ripped i've seen you get ripped what advice would you give to any parents listening that want to get back on it how did you do it what was you doing to get back in shape i've got to get back on it because the golden rule is and it sounds like you're stating the obvious, is consistency. And I did it. Yeah. I'd always been a good Nick.

And then we had kids. And you end up having takeaways, not going out, not sleeping, and getting knackered, and not doing stuff. And I ended up getting up to 20 plus stone. Blimey. You really do like Elvis, don't you? Lockdown.

Do you remember in lockdown, the weight was a big factor remember I thought right I've got a young family You know for God's sake Give yourself a chance if you get it I got lockdown I got COVID fairly early on before the vaccine But I'd lost a lot of weight by that point

So the thing for me was The gyms were shut at the time as well This was the irony of it But I thought okay I'm going to find something I enjoy doing Which is watching 70s TV right Yeah I got a Rockford Files box set.

I've got a Starsky Dutch box set. I've got a Kojak box set. And every day before I had breakfast, I would put one of them on, sit on the exercise bike, and just pedal for 45 minutes watching the Rockford Files or watching Kojak. Just do that every day of the week. And then as I got fitter, I'd watch two episodes.

That was it. And then when the gyms opened again, I started lifting a bit of weight to get back on the way so really so just from the exercise bike for 45 minutes in the morning it's huge difference and you wasn't doing anything else that was it really and then you started doing weights when the gym's and then when the gym's open i went back on the way to you and i i don't like weights when i was younger it was easier for me to get strong again because i'd been strong before but um the thing with someone said you can't outrun your fork which is a great saying right well if you do 45 outrun your fork. Well, if you do 45 minutes on an exercise bike,

it seems like you've done a lot of work, but you have like a Twix, and all those calories are back on again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? It's fairly depressing. But because you've gone on the bike in the morning, and you've had a sweat on,

you tend to say no to that Twix, because you think, oh, I want to have that, because I've just trained. Yeah, of course. You start making good decisions, because you've been up early doing a bit of work. So it's just consistency, and then stupidly, like an idiot, when the pub's opened up and it was all full on again,

you just go back and think, oh, I'll just do it. I'll do it three times a week. I'll do it twice a week. I'll do it once a week. I'll do it twice a month. It'll be fine. I'll have a twix. I'm going to do it no times a month.

Yeah, give me that twix. So I'm back at it again myself now, Rob. So you'll do it, mate. Yes. You'll do it. That's the plan. Consistency. I want to get in shape by July the 1st.

July the 1st. What's happening then? Canada Day. I I want to get in shape by July the 1st. July the 1st? What's happening then? Canada Day. I always have a little celebration on Canada Day. Why? I just live in Canada. I like it. Fair enough.

Yeah. So July the 1st, top's off and a bit of maple syrup. Is that what's happening? Yeah. We come to live maple syrup and get licked off by a grizzly bear. Perfect.

Sounds like a plan. Should we do a joint Top Soft photo on July the 1st, Mike? I'm in, Rob. I'm in. This is the peer pressure we need. I'll join in with that. July the 1st. You want a bit of that?

Yeah. We're all going to stick up a Top Soft photo on Instagram. This is good, man. Mike Bubbins consistency challenge. Oh, my God. We need it. We need something. Might make my hands go. Yeah. This is the calendar people want to see. Oh my God. We need it. We need something. Might make my hands go.

Yeah. This is the calendar people want to see. Don't mean. What? The July the 1st Canada calendar of me, you and Rob. Topless. Canada consists Canada Day.

1st of July. Yeah. Me. There we go. Fucking hell. I've got Glastonbury the week before that. You'll be fine. You've been good enough for Glastonbury.

Yeah. I'm going to be tops off at Glastonbury just getting ready for the pig. Oh my God. I'm going to take a vest and put it in my back pocket when it gets hot. Perfect. And walk the pick. Oh my God. I'm going to take a vest and put it in my back pocket when it gets hot. Perfect.

And walk around ripped. Oh my God. Let's do it. July the 1st. But I want people to go, is that Rob Beckett? And they go, it can't be.

It can't be. It's a magic mic, isn't it? I think we should agree to that and Michael needs to leave it in the episode that the July the 1st will put a topless photo on Instagram. It'd be funny if we all just post us fat

on the 1st of July. I put weight on. Either way, it's amazing. If we get comments saying I just think it's really powerful what you guys are doing because a lot of people would be ashamed to put these photos up.

It gets heat the wrong way. I just think body positivity in overweight men should be celebrating more and we're all going this is the best we've looked they've all lost the stone you don't need to lose weight though josh you're not probably shaming anybody if you want to be big be big you know i'm not going to people who aren't big yeah but i would like to be not big yes i'm gonna try and dry the first july the first get my top off with you two that's what the plan yes i didn't know that was a plan until about three minutes ago, but that is the plan.

That is the plan. I'm going to put that in there at July the first. Tops off. There we go. Yeah. There we go. Perfect. Okay, that's what we need.

We need that peer pressure. I'll be in my back garden. I'll be next to, hopefully, the hot tub. But don't you live off next to a man who's called, like, Tops Off Steve or something? Tops Off Vic. I moved, haven't I? I used to live next to a Tops Off Vic,

but he comes to my house now more than he did when I lived next door to him, to be fair. Why was he called Tops Off Vic? Because he Tops Off Vic, I moved, haven't I? I used to live next door to Tops Off Vic, but he comes to my house now more than he did when I lived next door to him, to be fair. Why was he called Tops Off Vic? Because he'd just never have a top off?

He was always gardening with his top off. When we did the arena show, because I talk about Tops Off Vic on the podcast quite a bit, I said, mate,

do you want to come down to the arena on Saturday? He said, yeah, what for? I said, well, that podcast is for the boys.

Yeah, no problem. I said, do you mind coming out on the stage and saying hello to people? No, no,

it'd be great. I said, do you mind taking the top off? No, I'll be fine. This like 78-year-old bloke comes out with his top off and there's 4,000 people chatting his name. It was hilarious. Well, that'll be us.

That's our future, isn't it? July the 1st. This is great. This is exciting. It's exciting. Thanks, Mike. Lovely voice. Thanks a lot. And also, listen to the socially... Is it still called the socially distant sports bar? It is called that. You've stuck with your lockdown name, whereas we deserted ours.

I know. At Distant Pod. People call it Distant Pod now, so we can't change it now. Fair enough. Give it a listen. It's a great podcast. Thanks, Mike. And I'll see you on the Canada Day.

Lovely, boys. Take care. July the 1st, here we come. Cheers, mate. Bye. Mike Bubbins. The Bubster. Loved him cheers mate bye Mike Bubbins the Bubster loved him I love Mike Bubbins

he's so good he's one of those people if you met him on holiday he'd be the greatest person you've ever met oh my god yeah you'd be like

this guy I've just agreed to take my top off with him on the 1st of July I'm just glad he exists do you know what I mean you know when you meet people you go

there's no one like Mike Bubbins well do you know what's quite inspiring about him especially with that weight loss thing is like when you see photos of him

when he got in shape in lockdown he was absolutely he looked like someone who's going to be in the new Avengers film and then like he said

he can occasionally let it slip where he sort of you know he just sort of looked like a normal dad just a busy dad not you know

massive or anything but it shows you if you do put the consistency in you can get I would love to have Mike Bobbins as a dad you know

you know when you meet people and you go these are good dads also we really need to unpack your dad having a ponytail well we'll come to that next week right um

see you next week bye bye