Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S6 EP40: Peter Andre

Episode Date: May 26, 2023

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant singer and presenter - Peter Andre. Peter's new children's book 'Super Space Kids! Save Planet Drizzlebo...ttom' is available to buy now. Parenting Hell is available exclusively (for free!) only on Spotify every Tuesday and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.uk INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parents in Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping or hopefully how they're not coping and we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips advice and of course tales of parenting woe because let's be honest there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing hello you're listening to parents in hell with george say rob and josh George, say Rob. Rob. Beckham. And Josh.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Josh. Beckham. Weddickham. Good boy. Love you. Love you. Love you. You know what?
Starting point is 00:01:00 I think that might be the best we've ever had. Yeah. I really enjoyed that. He mugged his mum off, then also said, I love you, and did a good laugh. Is that Sid James? In my head, he's smoking a cigar in that bath. Hi, Rob and Josh. This is my two-year-old son, George.
Starting point is 00:01:16 He copies absolutely everything. Thank you for everything. I've never missed an episode, and you're both awesome, and I definitely would. Oh. Louise from Sevenoaks. Oh, you're neck of the woods as well, Rob. It is,, I definitely would. Oh. Louise from Seven Oaks. Oh, you're neck of the woods as well, Rob. It is. And I definitely would.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Is she saying that she fancies us? She can't be. It does seem very forward, doesn't it? It can't be. Hi, Rob and Josh This is my two year old This is my two year old son We're both married
Starting point is 00:01:53 He copies absolutely everything Thank you for everything I don't want him to copy that please Thank you for everything I've never missed an episode and you're both awesome And I definitely would Well thank you for everything I've never missed an episode and you're both awesome and I definitely would I can't be drunk well thank you very much
Starting point is 00:02:10 Luis I'll send you an email how are you Rob I'm good Peter Andre is not someone I thought I'd be interviewing
Starting point is 00:02:20 in my career why not you're not a dreamer do you know what I didn't bring this up i once uh i the only encounter i had before with peter andre was when me and alex brooker did the million pound drop i was very new in tv it was just after the first paralympics yeah i'd love to watch that back oh my god you'd be getting so stressed brooker uh and me and then halfway through they did a uh what felt exciting at halfway through they did a what felt exciting
Starting point is 00:02:45 at the time they did a zoom it wasn't zoom then it was like a a satellite link up with Peter Andre yeah to announce
Starting point is 00:02:54 that you could play you could win the chance to play with Peter Andre next week right and they build up this satellite link up with Peter Andre
Starting point is 00:03:01 the whole way through and then when they bring him up at the bottom of his screen it just says Peter Andre andre in sussex and you're like fuck they've built up this satellite link up he's an hour away in sussex surely he could have come davina and davina and peter can barely get a conversation going and this is pre-zoom pre-zoom but he's on a he used to be he used to be really exotic as Satellite Link. Now it's just like just logging in. Oh, he used to be so exciting. Who gives a fuck?
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yeah. Yeah, have you met him before? Andre. Yeah, I have a couple of times. So I float around in that sort of bit of celeb-y world, don't I, when I used to do The Jungle? You know, that sort of... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I've been on... Did he win The Jungle? No. I don't think he did that year. I don't know if Jordan won it, but that was the year he wrote the hit song Insania that he wrote in the jungle. And that's where he met Katie Price Jordan, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:03:50 Yeah. But yeah, no, I don't think he won the jungle. Good guy though. Do you remember when Keris from Catatonia got together with Janny from EastEnders in the jungle? I don't. Have I misremembered that? Because I'm not a regular watcher of it.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I feel like I would have known that. Yeah, it feels like you should know that. Yeah, well, I've got a two to three year period in my life where all I did was gig and I didn't have a telly. I've got that for so many, like for football, I'm really bad for those first few years when I was a stand-up comedian. Yes. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And music. I just don't know what was going on. No, no, same. Any sort of pop culture stuff, I've got absolutely nothing in the – Yeah, but I think you're right. Yeah. Keris and – yeah, I've completely blocked that out, but you're right.
Starting point is 00:04:38 You're correct on that. But yeah, I've got a pop culture black hole where all I was doing was like I had no money and no telly and I'll just be out at gigs all the time and then getting drunk after quite tragically. But yeah, I think you're correct. I've got in, in reverse,
Starting point is 00:04:54 I've got a incredibly detailed knowledge of minor news stories from around 2013 to 2017. Cause I was doing panel shows almost every week about the news oh eric pickles is burning my head now yeah is he still going eric pickles but eric pickles basically this was when we first started what the week and everyone would just do like a a weight joke about eric pickles and it was like what a mad thing to do because he's just a bit of a, he's a big fella. And I'd be like, are we still doing Eric Pickles jokes?
Starting point is 00:05:28 Every week, Eric Pickles jokes. Horse lasagna. Horse meat and Eric Pickles. And Wayne Rooney being compared to Shrek happened a lot on Mont-Louis.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Oh my word, yeah. What a life we lead. Before we bring you Peter Andre, let's have a quick bit of correspondence. We've not done much, have we?
Starting point is 00:05:44 No. There's a lot of people talking about my Scrabble skills. Oh, yeah. Regarding a recent episode where Rob talks about being really good at Scrabble and always beating Lou, who is a teacher with a master's degree. I'll let you know. My sister is dyslexic and is great at Scrabble. We think it's because her brain is looking at her letters
Starting point is 00:06:01 in a far less linear way than those of us without dyslexic tendencies thanks katherine that's why that is interesting i knew the old dyslysia would come in handy at some point there you go i told you about that when i read it for the first time dyslexia you called it dyslysia yeah it was an advert insane trish remember before the internet people were a board and people could put little adverts of what they did and it was a dyslexia tutor and i was like dyslyzia to you what the fuck's dyslyzia oh another thing as well this was a bit observation that never worked was a i'll look forward to that dolphin friendly tuna yeah right and i felt like you can't just be bothered about dolphins if you're eating fish.
Starting point is 00:06:46 How about tuna-friendly tuna? He's like, you're either eating fish or you're not. Like, well, just because they smile a bit, you can't eat a fucking dolphin. Yeah. I think that is funny. I think that is funny. Yeah, it never really works, right?
Starting point is 00:06:58 Bring it back. Bring it back, don't you worry. Oh, lies told at school by kids. Hi, Rob and Josh. When I was at school, a boy told me that Tamagotchis were the uploaded souls of dead Japanese people. Oh, my God. We were 17 at the time.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Safe to say that that terrified me for years. Do you know what? At 17, that would. Because if someone tells you that when they're, like, six, they're a bit like, what are they talking about? But at 17, you're like, this geezer's a mincel. Yeah. He's into some he's got he's
Starting point is 00:07:27 into some stuff he is we've got so many lies told at school by kids here's another one from mandy okay who says keep it sexy guys there was a boy in my year at primary school who told everyone his dad was night rider oh yeah we had a kid who claimed his dad had a james bond watch fuck off he was so convinced of this he kept it going for a while until we saw him being picked up from school by his dad who was actually a bsm driving instructor with no kit car in sight but rather a very uncool dual pedal control nissan micro oh so what he's done is he's gone like oh it's you're like night rider because he's got special pedals and it's just a nissanra teaching people to drive.
Starting point is 00:08:09 There's one kid at my school and the rumour was that his dad ran Panasonic, like the whole company. The proof was that if you went into Panasonic in Exeter, the kid's dad would be in there. Right. The head of Panasonic isn't working in the local Panasonic in Exeter. No, he's at Pinzance. He knows what a flagship store is, mate.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Right, let's get Peter Andre when we've babbled on for ages. Sorry, here's Peter Andre. Also, great back catalogue of mega hits. Mysterious Girl will be a mega hit forever. I apologise about that. Yeah, it's funny because sometimes when we go places overseas and you walk into a nightclub, I don't really go to clubs anymore. But when you walk into somewhere, a bar or whatever, and they play the song and people in other countries, they have no idea who sung it.
Starting point is 00:08:51 They just know the song. And I'll be sitting there moving along with it, dying inside. They'll sit next to me and they have no idea. And it's quite funny. We will get onto the parenting. That video from Mysterious Girl. When did you get that ripped? How did that work? we were this Greek family with curly hair and big noses and English accents, and they weren't too keen on us.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And so we got picked on a lot. And so what I used to do was these kids at school asked me what sport I liked, and I said football because I'd just come from England. So I was born in England, moved there when I was six. And I said, I support football. And they went, what, American football? And I said, no, football. And I was doing this.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And they went, what, soccer? And I went, yeah. And they started laughing, and this kid just cracked me one of the places because listen here we don't do girls sport here and that's a girl sport and i thought that's a really odd thing incidentally soccer back then was huge with the socceroos which were the girl teams yeah yeah now stock is massive in australia but it's funny because then when the lionesses were smashing it here, I was like, yeah, we remember the stockeroos from back in the day who were heroes. But anyway, because I couldn't belong to their sports
Starting point is 00:10:11 because they were all playing cricket and rugby. They're all massive, especially Gold Coast. It's quite alpha male. I know. You fucking soft cock. They call you soft cock, so I'm a fucking soft cock. Yeah, absolutely. When I did I'm a Celebrity, all the camera guys are from,
Starting point is 00:10:24 and they were like, right, mate, I've got an idea. idea i'm gonna fucking kidnap joe swash take him out into the fucking bush and fucking tape him up and i went mate he's the presenter on the show you can't you're the cameraman you can't nick the president i went i'll fuck off your soft cock he's just having a fucking laugh sometimes they can't be bothered to say the whole thing so they'll just call you a cock yeah and they've got massive hands all australian blokes got massive strong hands because all their sports are hands so they were being a bit mean to you and then you got in shape did you yeah so i thought well i can't really hang out with them because the ones that don't like me are playing all the sports that i can't be part of so i just used to go to the gym
Starting point is 00:10:57 and sit there my brother wouldn't let me lift any weights because i was too skinny and too young so i just sit there and i'll do abs for an hour and a half way them lots of finish and i would just sit literally do sit-ups push-ups sit-ups push-ups well by the time i was 16 i'm like geez this is all right that's how it happened really because it was also it was in a time before abs do you know what i mean it was like what was it 93 or whatever year it would have been yeah In Love Island now, lots of people look like that. No one had those abs in those days. You invented the ab. My dad thought it was plastic surgery.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Did he? He thought that's not real. I've been asked to this day if I had chest implants. And I thought, you know what? I wish they existed, man, because I worked so hard for that. I would have loved to have just gone and did easy jobs. The problem is you've got to run for your own back. me about it because then years later everyone else is looking ripped on these shows and i'm like yeah yeah just yeah no we have to deal with that with joel domit he's still ripped
Starting point is 00:11:53 yeah he is ripped but one day he won't be let's talk about your kids peter for people that don't know what kids have you got we are a bit like cockroaches. There's loads of us. It all started from my dad, who was his mum and dad. Well, his mum, obviously. Same dad was pregnant 17 times. Whoa. 17 times. And I think only 13 survived at the end. Oh, my word.
Starting point is 00:12:19 12 ended up surviving. So dad's one of 12, eventually. Blimey. I'm one of sticks so now anything under double digits we're thinking oh we're not we're not succeeding how many kids you got and what their age is so we've got juniors he'll be 18 in june can you believe it princess is 15 do you like how i'm taking ages to figure it out because i forgot their ages yeah amelia's nine and theo's six but obviously i've changed five sets of nappies in the last 20 years.
Starting point is 00:12:47 So I'm a dab pad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And obviously, in previous relationships, there's been stepchildren and stuff like that. So for the last 20 years, kids have been ruling your life. I just want Theo to get to the point where he could just wipe his own bum. Then it's out.
Starting point is 00:13:01 You're done. I'm like, come on, please. That's 20 years of arse wiping you've done nearly i've been caught in ass wipe but to be doing it constantly i i understand why now must be difficult having the 18 and 15 year old and a boy and a girl presenting way more different problems than a yeah kid you know obviously sometimes imagine having a teenage daughter you'd much rather her still be four and you're having to wipe her bum and put her to bed at six rather than her going out and doing what she's doing.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So how are you managing that? Having the little kids and then teenage problems? No, I'm going to be honest with you. I'd rather it be a teenager than me having to do all that again. Yeah, fair enough. It's the boyfriend thing and the girlfriend thing. So when Junior was 15 and he started going out with a girl and he was asking can i go see her i was a bit like i don't know and all i remember emily saying to me was whatever rules you have for junior you're
Starting point is 00:13:51 gonna have to have the same rules for princess you can't do the old school mentality because i was old school i grew up in a generation where our parents they let the boys do everything but you know the girls and i feel bad because sister, she went through so many years where she wasn't allowed to do things that us boys were allowed. And it took me to have kids and for them to start growing up for me to go, yeah, I don't agree with that. They have to be equal. So I used to joke that my daughter's going to be a nun, even though I secretly wanted that to happen, but it never was. I realized that actually, whatever rules I set for Junior at 15, I had to set for her at 15 and now she's 15 and I'm going,
Starting point is 00:14:30 oh my gosh, and I'm starting to get scared, but I think we're handling it okay. You never know if you're doing the right thing, you just hope for the best. You just hope for the best. And with the younger one, so what, they're six and nine, did you say? Yeah. I've heard that six is, that's a nice age, right?
Starting point is 00:14:44 The best. So you're still bum wiping at six because my youngest is five and she still makes me wipe her bum. what they six and nine did you say yeah i've heard that six is that's a nice age right the best so you're still bum wiping at six because my youngest is five and she still makes me wipe a bum on the toilet and i'm like this has got to stop yeah yeah i think five sixes i think they're too old for that and i'm doing it as well i'm not criticizing you peter i'm wiping asses as well at an age where you shouldn't exactly what i've said and i'm like come on mate just at least do the first three wipes meet me half way yeah come in as a foreman of the building site where I can just do
Starting point is 00:15:12 the final check over to go yeah you're fine yeah and that might include me not having to do anything because yep you're good yes exactly show me the last piece yep we're good maybe that's the process maybe I'll suggest that yeah yeah but they won't meet me halfway and it's like they know all i hear is this if mom's home it's
Starting point is 00:15:31 mom i'm done if dad's home dad i'm done i know exactly what's happening right in the middle of my sandwich yeah i'm in the middle of a coffee yeah and then i come back and i'm like i don't want to eat it anymore were you good at the nappies? I was very hands-on because, again, thinking back to my parents' generation, my mum did all of that. Yeah. Really? Yes. It was very much like, I love you, my son, but you keep your ass wiping to yourself.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I thought, nah, I think time's changed. Yeah, of course. I like being a hands-on dad I just didn't think it was going to be that hands-on I can't imagine you as a disciplinarian because you're such a nice bloke I wouldn't say soft that's the wrong word but you're not like an alpha male despite the abs you know so I can't imagine you being too disciplinarian it's really weird because again going back generations you know where we used to get good walloping at school from the headmasters you know with canes and all that really oh yeah how old are you are you like 93 but look unbelievable i'll never forget this i got the cane at six years old at school it was the stick and it was right across there was the worst pain i got it at high school
Starting point is 00:16:42 in australia and also in england when i was I got, they called it the plimsoll pudding. You remember plimsolls, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you almost went down. No, no, but just not for dessert. Normally for PE. Not the headmaster, the vice headmaster, whatever, the one underneath him. He used to get the plimsoll and he used to smack him.
Starting point is 00:17:03 We used to get the plimsoll pudding if we were misbehaving. Oh, my word. And that was one under the cane. So where would he hit you with the plimsoll? Oh, you'd get it cracked on the head, the bum, wherever. Yeah, you would get a plimsoll. A clump, yeah. And so we called it the plimsoll pudding.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And when I had kids, I thought. Should I get some plimsolls? I thought, should I buy some plimsolls now? I thought, if I give the look that my dad used to give me, had kids i thought should i get some plimsolls i thought should i buy some plimsolls now i thought if i give the look that my dad used to give me because dad used to give me a look right yeah and i thought if i give them that look is that going to stop them doing it or was it the smack that used to stop me doing it yeah and i realized my kids because i've never raised my hands to them ever i realized that that look and then feeling like they disappoint you sometimes is a worse feeling yeah because i
Starting point is 00:17:50 remember if i disappointed dad the feeling i would have of disappointing him even now and i'm 50 and i still feel like i don't want to disappoint him so i found a way to navigate around it so i disciplined them without ever having to raise my hand to them. Can we see the look? The look? Oh, do you know what it is? It's because you're so smiley and likeable at night. As soon as you stop smiling, it does get quite stressful.
Starting point is 00:18:15 It's got to be a bit of a De Niro, like. Yeah, I started panicking. It instantly felt like the interview was going badly, Rob. It instantly felt like we'd overstepped the mark. Then he smiled again and I felt so relieved. Thank God for that. Thank God for that. It was like it was like yeah all right we'll mention the book peter we'll mention the book okay yeah i'll do anything but not wiping your ass so with the little kids they're obviously like get into school and stuff like that so is it hard to do activities with the older ones because an 18 and a 15 year old don't want to be a soft
Starting point is 00:18:40 player do you try and do separate stuff with them because it's hard to keep them all happy at those ages mate that is such a good point because you always see it around the 15 age where they start to not want to come to everything yeah so junior at 15 he started being like oh dad do you mind if i go see my friend or do you mind if i and i'm thinking i knew it was coming to that stage and now princess is 15 and just the very first time in the last few months, there's a couple of family things we've done and she said,
Starting point is 00:19:09 is it okay if I don't go? So I get it. I get it because I was the same around that time. So that's tricky. But if we all go for dinners or we do stuff like that, we always go together.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Oh, that's nice. How big is Christmas then? If you've got all the kids at yours for Christmas, is that all brothers and cousins? Because you're from a massive family are they all in the uk are they still australia greece all spread around yeah so mum and dad renounce but you want to hear the weirdest story my mum and dad we grew up as jehovah's witnesses so even though i'm not a witness did you yeah i didn't know that mum and dad have devout witnesses so they don't celebrate
Starting point is 00:19:42 christmas oh really we never celebrated christmas until i had kids no way i never celebrated it wow 18 19 years ago is the first time i ever celebrated christmas and what was that like that first time you celebrated christmas oh after how much i spend every christmas i'm like my dad was right were they a little bit put out that you didn't carry on being a witness yeah of course of course and and you know what it's a really tough thing because i love what i learned and i respect everything i learned and i'm not one of these people that leaves a faith and then talks against it because yeah to be honest when i was bullied as a kid the witnesses they took us in
Starting point is 00:20:22 they were loving they didn't care what nationality you were it was just the same faith i guess many faiths are similar in that way so i've got nothing but love for it but you know you get to 16 and there's things you're not allowed to do before you're married and when you've got abs like that you're fighting them off you can't have abs like that it's easy to be jehovah's witness if you're fat and ugly if you've ripped like you it's impossible peter andre at 17 not allowed to kiss a girl. Leave it out. Look at him. And then you just sort of rebel because you're just kind of doing, you know, you're not allowed to do anything.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And funny enough, even then, when all that started happening and I left, I still never celebrated Christmas because I didn't really know how to. Yeah, of course. I used to get on a plane when I was coming to England. I used to get on a plane on christmas day to fly back to oz because it was the quietest flight yeah of course and so i used to always fly on christmas day so i never celebrated it and then had kids and i was like but here's the thing right yeah when junior wants a pair of trainers that are more than what you would buy yeah 500 presents for million theo yeah the traders are the same price it's like you end up buying your older kids that are more than what you would buy 500 presents for Millie and Theo.
Starting point is 00:21:25 The traders are the same price. It's like you end up buying your older kids one main present and your younger kids like 30 or 40. So I say to them, look, guys, wouldn't you rather have 10 or 15 small presents or one big one? What do you think they go for? One big one. Cash. Yeah, cash.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yeah, cash. Yeah, exactly. Have you ever tried to sneak your parents over for Christmas without telling them by going, hey, what are you doing on the fourth Saturday in December? Might have a bit of dinner. You don't mind turkey. I say that to mum and she says, when on this day when Jesus Christ was...
Starting point is 00:22:03 I said, all right, mum. Okay, I get it it she knows her days mate don't mess with mom so did you have to go door to door when you were a kid yeah i sure did wow and actually when i was about 15 there was a girl i really liked and i was like we would see each other and it was i was thinking i can't you're not allowed to sit on the fence i remember i was getting to a point of thinking i you know maybe i need to go my own way and then someone said yeah but you're a michael jackson fan i'm like yeah of course like he was my idol back back in those days and they said well he's a witness because apparently all his family were
Starting point is 00:22:40 witnesses and they were like prince you know prince i don't know if you know this but prince was a witness to it and so you would think well if they're doing it i'll do it yeah but then a year or so later it just yeah so who are the famous witnesses michael jackson and prince george benson is an elder remember george benson yeah remember give me the night there's quite a few you know i mean a lot of actors as well the thing is though when you're brought up in a faith you do tend to be defensive of it yeah later on in life even when you're not part of it because you know a lot of what you learned was actually for your own good have you brought your kids up in any kind of so i started to when junior and princess were really small i used to take them to the kingdom hall, especially for the memorial, which was once a year. But then I again had that moment as they started to get older and went, I've got to let them decide what they want to do.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah. Because when you bring someone up in a faith, whatever faith that is, however you bring someone up, it's instilled in them. Then there's a sense like with us of real guilt when you're not part of it anymore. And I want them to be at an age where they go yeah this is what i want this is you know i'm not sure if that's what i want to do so so i've left it for that reason is there anything you still take from it you know we're not religious in my family we do easter and christmas are there any little like events jehovah's witness events or celebrations that are anything that you still do and have a little party for once a year the memorial yeah which is like around Easter time every year and I do it a lot because mum's like are you going to the memorial she knows she doesn't even know the day she knows the minute he knows the times even in England what time it's on really oh she
Starting point is 00:24:23 knows and she's 86 i'm like okay mom yes i'm doing it mom i'll be there don't worry and so they look on zoom and they can see who's who's on it even if they don't see your face but i enjoy it yeah it's really interesting i just didn't know that about you that's such a fascinating background and it's so nice to hear someone you know even though you're not involved in it to talk so positively about something like that i think it's a really great thing yeah the door-to-door witnessing was always a tough one though because yeah when we were kids we were told you know you've got to go door-to-door and preach the good news of the kingdom and there were other words that were after that and i grew up and i thought yeah but surely
Starting point is 00:24:57 back then when the bible was written door-to-door mate everyone just lived in tiny villages they knew everybody there was about 15 people in a village i'm gonna go preach to my cousin john yeah i'm a john let's have a drink look but you know as time's gone on and we were going and actually knocking on people's doors that we didn't know and it was a scary thing that must have been tough how often did it go well not often yeah not often but because you've got to preach it we did but i still understand that it was a great feeling when someone because there would be the odd person you know that old saying of like if i could just help one person yeah yeah you know and there would be times when people would
Starting point is 00:25:36 be like life-changing for them because they were searching for something and then you just turned up yeah now you always used to wonder i wonder what they did when michael jackson knocked on the door because he used to go witnessing do you know i didn't he used to go apparently he used to go in his car because his brother told me his brother tito he said that that adol would walk door to door and michael would be in a car stop get out go knock on the door if it was positive he would talk if it't, he'd get back in the car and get to the next place. Just kind of moonwalk away. That's how he developed the moonwalk, just creeping away from the house.
Starting point is 00:26:12 That's quite good, actually. Let's talk about your kid's book. What an absolute gear change that is, eh? That was like the one show, wasn't it? That was unbelievable. Jehovah's Witnesses to space kids save planet drizzle bottom which after hearing about your kid needing their bum wiped really takes on a new meaning absolutely absolutely absolutely covered everything in this show there's something for everyone
Starting point is 00:26:33 something for everyone oh my gosh well first of all they placed it elastic and placed it really nicely yeah there it is show us it get it in front of the camera here we go so this is a kid's picture book for ages three plus and it's based on the stories you make up stories at bedtime with the kids is that correct yeah it's called why won't you wipe your own ass isn't it exactly it's just written in greek but basically yes it means exactly that and so you came up with these stories at bedtime right yes so it goes back to the childhood again because, and I know it sounds weird, but I didn't really read books. Like the only books I had anything to do with was the Bible or anything kind of biblical when I was a kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:13 You know, all the kind of Bible story books. And Drizzle Bottom was one of Jesus's nicknames, wasn't he? Quite famously. I thought when I got to reading for the kids, you know, you have to do it as a dad. Yeah. I couldn't concentrate when i was reading it yeah i'd start going off on a tangent and i've always been fascinated by sci-fi
Starting point is 00:27:31 i'm back to the future is one of my favorite the trilogy is one of my favorites and also close encounters one of the best right yeah i started talking about space travel and you know life on other planets and all that sort of stuff and And as time went on, I just put the books down. I just started creating these stories with them. And every night we'd go to a different planner and they'd solve these problems. And so I just went to Scholastic and said, look, I've got this idea for a book. And they were like, we love it. And they said, actually, we'd love a series of this subject.
Starting point is 00:28:02 So they said to me, can you please give us 800 words put 800 words down by september this was july they said if you can give us 800 words by september that afternoon i sent them nearly 4 000 words right i've just you'd already written it haven't you i've just written the whole thing sent it to them them, and they were like, okay, we've got to cut it down, but we love this idea. A bit keen, Peter, but yeah, you know. Yeah, exactly what they thought. I suppose you've written the books already, making the stories up in front of your kids.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah. You actually just get them down on paper. A bit like Noel Gallagher with his first two albums, isn't it? Yeah. He'd already written them. Absolutely, yeah, and that's the thing. When it comes from you, it's just you think, well, if my kids love it, hopefully other kids will love it, and that's why we've done comes from you it's just you think well if my kids love
Starting point is 00:28:45 it hopefully other kids will love it and that's why we've done it so hopefully they will love it oh brilliant of your kids they must be really excited because obviously these are the stories that you've told them and now they physically exist i know they're now a bit old maybe for them but what have they made of these books they love it but they can't understand the concept that it's a book that other people are going to read they think that we made this book and printed it for them it's like you know when you do a photo album yeah yeah that's what they think i've done right they're like i'll thank you for my present i'm like no i'm going to give this to your headmaster why are you giving my book to the headmaster because their names are in it it's
Starting point is 00:29:22 about them million theo so i suppose if the kids reading it on the train they'll go they've nicked my book yeah that's exactly right and you're like no anyone can buy it have you gone into schools and stuff have you done that yet no not yet not yet i only got released today it's one of those things of like i don't even know if it's going to do anything i don't even know if it's going to sell anything but i'm just glad i'm doing it. But I know with these things, they can escalate quickly. If it sells, then you'll get invited to. Yeah. It'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:29:49 You'll be invited to school. You'll be invited to school. I'll get you. I'll come to your guys' school. Yeah, we'll have to come to my kid's school. It's pretty right. Lou would love it. Lou, first gig was you at Croydon, my wife. No way.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Obsessed with you, Peter. It's actually upsetting. No way. When are you talking about? How many years ago? She's 37 now. I think she's probably about 15 it would have been your first uk tour no way she was i've only ever done that one so i know that night and i it was the first time ever yep i had my trousers ripped ripped off rob's got them on the wall in the sitting room. Lou capped them.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I knew it was there. No, I'm just joking. But I remember that night so well because it had never been so crazy because I'd come from Australia and I was unknown. We were just starting and I remember doing Fairfields Hall and I refer to it all the time now. It's an iconic gig. About that particular night. Like Nebworth.
Starting point is 00:30:43 If she's got a photo, I'd love to see that. Oh dear, I don't know. A lot of me naked. How did you end up having your trousers ripped off? Were you going into the crowd? She's very strong, isn't she? Mate, she's got some power. They didn't completely come off, but they were completely ripped.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I'll never forget it. And I was holding on to them like this. Amazing. It was a mad night. But the abs were out. Yeah. But yeah, she speaks fondly of that night in Croydon. She took her dad took her dad with her to be honest mate she speaks to me fondly about you as well have you had to go take your kids to gigs and stuff like that because she was too young to
Starting point is 00:31:16 go on her own so her dad went with her like to that to your gig at croydon have you ever been dragged along to stuff like mad drum and bass gigs or this new boy band or girl band or k-pop and you're stood there going what is this yeah i remember once because my kids like they like certain people so i sometimes will go and take them to see those groups or that band yeah and it is interesting seeing it from the other side but then then they get very quickly they grow out of that stage where they don't want their parents to go with them. They want someone else to take them. It's only a short period of time.
Starting point is 00:31:48 But it's weird because they don't want their parents there, but they would quite happily go with their friend's dad. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. And that's fine and whatever. But then the kid always is like, oh God, I don't want my dad to come with me. It's so true because like one of my daughter's friends, her dad's a chef, right? Unreal cook. of my daughter's friends her dad's a chef right unreal cook but he will say i want to go to
Starting point is 00:32:09 millie's house because her dad's a really good cook and you should learn you should take from him and i'm thinking i can't even cook anywhere near like he does but what i'm saying is this whole thing of the kids always their mates parents are always better yeah of course it's that sort of thing you know have you done anything career-wise where you've gone i'm doing this because this will impress my kids do you know what i mean i'm gonna go on this show that they love or i'm gonna do this song that i know means a lot to them 100 this one's a classic now i got a call from the people that do the telly tubbies and they said oh we we want to do an album of the teletubbies 30 years or something i can't remember what it was and i said oh okay what would you like
Starting point is 00:32:52 me to do like present present it to them or something i said no we want you to to be their manager for this campaign we're going to do and it's going to be hilarious and you can say that you know simon you know watch it watch it you know we're going to be number one this year and all that and i said so basically i'm going to make a fool of myself then i thought about millie and theo and i said hang on does that mean titty tubbies get to come to my house because yeah we're going to need to film in your house with them yeah you're going to need to be having a meeting and saying right you need to get up there and you need to give it your best we've got to compete with simon cowell and i think it was coldplay that
Starting point is 00:33:28 were yeah competing for the same thing you've got to get up there and we've got to fight against coldplay and all that and mate having them round and my kids faces the little ones oh wow oh really although theo said to me the other day he sticks he goes dad you know when the telly zombies came over i said here he goes one of them had really hairy hands because it was all mesh yeah i could see through it it was a really hairy hat i said look any tubbies are hairy on the inside they're not really hairy on the outside but i'm thinking how am i going to explain this i was brilliant but yeah they that i did that for them and it was brilliant and the album flopped so win some yeah it was worth it though it was worth it for having the teletubbies in your house i think that's why you know you've you've had such a long career and so popular as you don't take yourself too serious no you can't if the kids get to experience the teletubbies behind your ass it's a funny story isn't it absolutely? Absolutely. You can't, mate, because when I was younger, I did.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And I say it a lot lately because I think I reflect a lot now, but I don't like who I became at one point. I don't like that. And I think, you know, when you get older and your kids get older, they humble you really quickly because they tell you what's real. And you kind of look back and go, yeah, you know, I'm glad now I don't take. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Not at all because no one cares. I don't take. No, I don't. Not at all. Because no one cares. That's the thing. No one cares. Do they like Mysterious Girl, your kids? Yeah, they do. Have they seen the video? I don't think my youngest two have, no.
Starting point is 00:34:56 No. Well, no, I think the question on all their lips would be the same as everyone's. Why were you wearing jeans in the stage? You know what I mean? It's like, I don't want to have to have that conversation with them just yet but i suppose when you're old your boys get a bit like you get cocky and stuff and they're going to the gym a bit you can go have a look at that that's going to the gym come on what was going on with your hair how much product in your hair in that video
Starting point is 00:35:21 it was disgraceful so you know what i used to do i used to use this can of silhouette do you know silhouette have you ever heard of no no it's a lacquer yeah yeah right and it's called silhouette we used to call it the black death because it was a black bottle it was so strong and in the 80s and 90s when we used to go out and have long curly hair yeah i used to spray half a bottle of this going out one night it was like a rock yeah yeah you could balance your mate on it right so i used to do that even in the mysterious gold days because my hair was curly and i had to straighten it for that to sit there i had to use this lacquer right right the
Starting point is 00:35:57 problem was with it and so much product but the problem was when you'd have a cup of tea you had to move it because if you didn't it would dip into the tea and your tea would just get this little film of just lack of it true true about your younger kids after you put their faces out there your youngest two you're a bit more reserved with their image online and stuff i have to be honest that's an emily thing yeah i've got to respect her for that because she was i would have just done it naturally it's hard not to yeah yeah you get excited and you want to show them yeah because obviously with your elder two you had a reality show at some point as well yeah and you you was like almost like a trailblazer for that really and then since then there's been like taoi and then you see like the fern mccann have got a
Starting point is 00:36:36 show with their kids and billy and sam fares and not just on tv but like online and instagram and stuff like yeah you know we share our private lives it's a reality show but a podcast for me and josh really about our wives and kids and then on instagram everyone's sort of got their kids and stuff involved there's like mummy influencers dad influencers and as someone who was there sort of the beginning is anything you sort of like learned from that period that you reflect on because you you know you're the first people to do it not knowing what would go on to happen with it all. The repercussions of it too. You're right, because the thing is, it's been really good having two that have done it and two that haven't. Because the two that have done it are kind of aware of the pitfalls and they don't take
Starting point is 00:37:14 anything seriously. And I say, guys, don't read comments. Yeah. And I say, whatever you put online, remember, people are going to see it and they're going to comment on it. So be a bit careful. And then Juni will say, yeah, but were you careful when you used to say or do things in the past and i said no and i don't want you to make the same mistake i was stupid yeah yeah but they know the
Starting point is 00:37:33 pitfalls and they're aware of it so that's that's good on that side the other side and emily and i praise her for it because she's like i'm not having million theo spaces out there and i'm fine that's absolutely i respect that yeah the good thing is they go anywhere and no one has a clue who they are what they do and they're not it's not about treating anyone different is i don't want them to feel different yeah emily didn't want them to feel different and i i understand that so it's it's kind of good seeing you on both sides but yeah julian princes are pretty good with it because sometimes I say, if you put something on and you think it's going to get a bad reaction, you either turn your comments off or you just don't put it on.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Don't fall into that world of negativity. It's not nice at all. You're so positive and it feels like you're very measured. You're very calm and collected because you've been in the headlines and all sorts of things, especially now with trolling and collected and because you've been in the headlines and all sorts of things and like especially now of like trolling and online and comments and not even if you're on the telly but you know you can see it with kids at school groups on whatsapp or roblox where people are talking about and said they did this there's photos and videos like what advice would
Starting point is 00:38:39 you give to anyone that is on the end of negative attention for whatever reason because you seem to deal with it really well it's really tough and i've had my fair share when twitter first came out and before there was such thing as trolls and yeah before people really knew what it meant i made it horrific at the start and i never knew how to handle it and then i thought well the first thing i stopped doing was reading because i thought if you're reading something and you see the first negative word like I hate as soon as you see that just block it before you read the rest of it because once you've read it you can't unsee it yeah and then I thought you know god I'm choosing to go on these things so you you're fair game so you just got to put up with whatever's said and then I thought but I have to do it because it's my job and if I don't do it
Starting point is 00:39:23 then you of course you got promo your book and the publishers expect that that kind of stuff you need the platforms exactly because they'll say well what's your insights how many followers you know that's a lot of what happens now whereas back in the 90s there was no such thing so i do try and tell them look you know it depending on what kind of job you want to do yeah it could be important to that but use it as a work tool which sounds a bit odd yeah when you're 16 17 but i think they'll eventually get it i don't know if emily will let millie and theo have things like that and juni and princess weren't allowed to even have instagram until they were 14 and it had to be on private although my daughter didn't listen standard and i wanted to see for a year what kind
Starting point is 00:40:06 of things they post to know whether it'll be okay publicly so but i've made mistakes in the past i think that's really good to go like i've made mistakes so learn from it rather than pretending you're some kind of know-it-all parent that grown-ups can't make mistakes i think that's a really healthy way of parenting i've made some schnockers, even when I look back at some reality shows now. And I think, I hate that I became a certain way, that I had arrogance. I can't believe that, you know, and you only know that once you've grown up.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yeah, totally. It's very brave and also like admirable to reflect on that and go, I was not very nice then, or I did something I regret then, rather than going, no, no, no, it was fine. You know, it does show growth to accept sometimes you may have done things, like anyone does in a way you sort of regret.
Starting point is 00:40:53 With the children's books and stuff now, obviously you've done the first one. Have you got them all locked and loaded, ready to go? Yeah, I'm a bit too keen now. It's happening again. They're sending 4,000 words a day. They're like, we're going to have to block this guy's email address. It's really sending 4 000 words a day they're like we're gonna have to block this guy's email address it's really getting too much for us they're like getting rid of it spamming us absolutely yeah no i'm ready to go it's funny because i thought at
Starting point is 00:41:16 50 i always said i want to get to 50 i'll chill out and then i don't know whether it was the pandemic or whatever but when you had a year or two years of doing nothing and I realised how bored I could get when I'm doing nothing, I'm like, no, I've got to work. I've just got to work, yeah. Do you want to do the final question, Josh? Yeah, we always end on the same question, which is if your partner was listening, is there one thing that your partner does
Starting point is 00:41:38 that is incredible as a parent that makes you go, I'm so lucky to be with this person as a parent. And one thing that they do that annoys you, but you've never brought up. As a parent? As a parent. Well, you could go wherever you want with it, Peter. You can do a full personality attack if you want. All right, let's go.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Let's go. I've needed this therapy session for a while. Get it off your chest, Peter. The thing that she does that makes me just melt is, you know, she's a full-time doctor and she works and she does all that but like a lot of parents she puts her kids first but to the point that she jeopardizes herself a lot of times so in the sense of how do I explain this I've seen people put their kids first, but the way she does it is just, I don't know, it makes my heart melt. I've never seen anyone be so selfless when it comes to the kids.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And I'm sure most people will say that about their wives. Yeah. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Joking. I wouldn't say that about Josh's wife either. I'm joking. I'm joking.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I'm joking. Rose, I'm joking. Now let's go to the thing. Yeah. The juicy bit. This thermostat thing, it does my head in. It does my head in. My parents are from Cyprus.
Starting point is 00:42:54 I've lived in Australia. I'm used to warmth. Dee wants it to be the Arctic all times of the year in our house, right? I walk up. I think if I turn the heat up, she's not going to know. By the time it gets hot, she can turn it down because everything can start cooling down and it's going to take a process. And by the time she thinks it's down, I'll turn it back on again.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And so we go. We've got a nice balance in the house. Oh, mate. It's too cold. It's not just cold. Put it this way. I said to her the other day, the 1st of April happened and it was pouring with rain and I went, great. Spring, I said, and it's raining. And she went, oh no, this is how positive she is. Oh no. She said, it's a thing. It's called April showers, as if the rest of the months have not rained and all of a sudden we've got april and it's raining and i went oh wow great so we're gonna have a cold rainy month great i'm looking forward to that i haven't had one of those for a while i'm saying is she doesn't feel the cold at all she just she's like
Starting point is 00:43:54 me and i need the heat yeah so this is the only thing but i'm sure she'll say exactly the same thing about you but switching around it's too hot it's i reckon that's a small price to pay yeah but i love it too much to go but she's in the right i think on this one but good luck with your book peter super space kids save planet drizzle bottom it's um out now for ages three plus lou will be buying it rob lou will buy a copy straight away yeah she loves it i have to get it signed next time i see her just tell lou if she can get me my trousers back please because they're back in fashion now. Yeah, can you do me a favour?
Starting point is 00:44:27 Can you say, Louise Watts, I remember you from Fairfield Halls and I love you. For me now, Peter, and check and play it to her. Louise, it's Peter. I remember you from Fairfield Hall. Do you know what? I've only ever done that once, if I remember ever, and I remember that night so well.
Starting point is 00:44:43 So, you know, I i mean you ended up marrying rob thanks mate surely it wasn't that great a performance after all right bye thanks for that no well you were a crush and she went from greek god to this little blonde mess so something went wrong somewhere to an english gentleman to an English gentleman. To an English gentleman. Exactly. Cheers, mate. Peter Andre, where have you got to go now, Rob? I've got to get a train back to London to go and see my wife to talk to her about ripping Peter Andre's
Starting point is 00:45:15 trousers off at Fairfield Halls. The dutty woman. You've got 23 minutes to your train. Get out of your effing hotel. Goodbye. See you on Tuesday bye bye bye bye bye
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