Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S6 EP6: David Gandy

Episode Date: January 27, 2023

 Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant male super model and businessman - David Gandy. Shop David's Wellwear line here; https://www.davidgandywellwear.com Thanks, Rob + Josh. We're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK? Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there... ON SALE NOW  14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena 19th April 2023 - Nottingham 20th April 2023 - Cardiff  21st April 2023 - London (The O2) 23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley) 28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena  If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] TWITTER: @parenting_hell INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parents in Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or, hopefully, how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with advice and of course tales of parenting woe because let's be

honest there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing hello you're listening to Can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. Good boy. And can you say Josh Widdicombe? Josh Widdicombe. He sounded like he's had a joint. This is Max, my two-year-old son. We recorded this and now he won't stop saying Josh Widdicombe. Apparently it's fun to say.

Too bloody right. Sounds like Channel 4 Commissioner. It doesn't these days. Love the podcast. Thanks for making the rest of us feel normal. Love, Lauren from Portsmouth. How do we get rid of Josh Widdicombe from Last Leg? He's not disabled.

How do we let him slip through the net? That was a good one, though. I liked that kid. I liked his energy. Yes. How are you, Rob? All good. Yep.

I'm tired, Rob. I'm tired and cold. I'm so tired. So it's cold everywhere. I'm getting lots of sleep. Oh, no, Rob. What? I've started having a piss in the night.

You know when I said I don't have pisses in the night? Yeah. This week, I've started going for a piss in the night. You know what I said? I don't have pisses in the night. Yeah. This week, I've started going for a piss in the night and I can't get out of it. Do you drink before bed or? Yeah. Do you have a drink next to your bed? Because I'm on a diet.

Right. Oh, my diet. I had a really bad week when Lou was away. Yeah. I had a fry up. Oh, you know, I've got my new, I know I've got an office

that I'm going to do this from eventually when it all goes through. Yeah. I've got this office, right, that I need to set up the Oh, you know what? I've got my new, I know I've got an office that I'm going to do this from eventually when it all goes through. I've got this office, right? I need to set up the cameras and stuff with Michael. Put that on the to-do list, Michael. Anyway, I went there when the boiler was getting sorted out or something. They had to put something on it.

Oh God, I'm boring myself. Fucking hell, liven up, Rob. Anyway, it was really cold. I was waiting in a cold, empty office while they were fixing something. So I thought, Joe, I'll go for the caff. They'll be done in an hour. I'm supposed to be on my Gary Barlow get ripped. Had a fry up because it was minus five.

And I was like, that's okay. I think that's allowed on a diet. Gary Barlow's not having a fry up for any temperature. Surely Barlow's knocking back a fry up when it's minus five. No. Okay. He can't be on yogurt not that cold no anyway i went for a fry up right and i'm gonna i'm gonna send you this fry up and it's the calf nearest my office yeah okay which is dangerous you almost want it to be bad right but actually it's a good calf i'd say it's in between calf and cafe but this fry up i add it oh my word what the best fry up i've ever eaten fucking hell i've never seen that's a does

that more bacon no it's a it's a homemade hash brown oh my word and it's bacon well done sausage so i'm going to tell you something now. Gary Barlow's never eating that, mate. They're poached eggs, though, Josh. Yeah. Rob, that's not Gary Barlow's breakfast. Anyway, I was supposed to be getting ripped. You know, I had that week when I went really good and I had loads of veg before Lou went away, and then I did smelly poos and all that,

and then Ken Bruce left radio too. I'm not saying it's my fault, but I'm not saying it helped. Anyway, that. it's my fault but i'm not saying it helped anyway that so then i was i was flying and then i started my week when it was cold after fry up i had pizza express twice and then i finished a week on fish and chips from the chippy oh rob that's not a bar low anyway new week new me i'm back on it lose back i'm not working as much there's another parent here to help me I'm back on the veg grind Great Because I'm on day 8 of my diet I saw you eating cottage cheese with an avocado

And you look sad That's what it's all about mate You look sad and thin I look sad But I'm drinking too much water And it's making me piss at night Yeah You know I do the brown noise Is it a clear piss or is it a dark one? I'm drinking too much water and it's making me piss at night yeah you know I do the brown noise

is it a clear piss or is it a dark one I'm not looking Rob I try and keep my eyes closed while I'm doing it are you in brown noise every night yeah and it gives you a time of how long you've slept for

because obviously you can see how far you've got through the brown noise playlist oh yes what are you looking at I did eight hours and a quarter last night what before the piss? No, no, no. I don't check it when I get up for the piss,

but I leave the brown noise running. So eight hours sleep? Yeah. Why am I tired? What time do you go to bed? You know I go to bed early, Rob. You're such a little nerd. I'm not a nerd. You little full pyjamas book on quarter past eight. I'm not. I'm wearing pyjamas, Rob. I'll pair a pair of

loose boxer shorts. What time did we go to bed last night? What did we watch? We watched the second part. Is Rose in there while you're doing the podcast? Watching you? What do you mean doing the podcast? You asked her what time did we go to bed.

No, no. I was saying it to myself. I was saying it. Oh, I thought she's in the room making sure you're not slacking off. She's a big fan of the show. I had to fan of the camera and i said you should see it unedited it's really good just watch it a couple of days

it's quite weird because i've got the headphones in just here's just your audio um so what time did you go to bed last night we watched that uh chuck d hip-hop documentary don't try and make yourself sound cool we were pretty cool i watched a little bit of a hip hop doc. We did watch that Chuck D hip hop documentary. Yeah. And then we went to bed at about 9.45. 9.45. It's pathetic.

To sleep. It's pathetic, isn't it? So what time did you get into bed? Well, Rose went straight to sleep, Rob, because she was still drunk from being at Clarity. I couldn't even say it. So she was asleep bang on 9.45? No, well, it takes a quarter of an hour to get upstairs, doesn't it?

Yeah, 10pm. I wouldn't say that's too... I think if you've got a kid, what time is your son getting up? 6.45, 7. Yeah, I mean, yeah. If you want to have a good day and be able to do your life you need to be going to bed by 10 p.m if you've got a kid waking up at 6 i can't remember what it's like to watch match of the day i've been watching it in the mornings on saturday sunday morning you

know what it's something like but like live like and i've been waiting for it to come on it's so pathetic i remember remember breaking up and going, why the fuck? I used to go, why are they putting Match of the Day on so early? No one's up at that time when I was like 22. Now I'm waiting for it to come on. I'm negotiating. All right then, girls, you can watch Frozen 1, Frozen 2,

and after three hours, when that's finished, I'll be watching Match of the Day at 9.30am, okay? What has become of our lives eight hours is good that's good sleep mate that's good

I go to bed before loo now do you I'm really needing a lot of sleep I feel like the couple that doesn't go to bed

together isn't like I can't go to bed first I can go to bed second I can't go to bed first

I've only just started doing it but I actually feel a bit smug do you I'm going to bed now or you't go to bed first now this i've only just started doing it but i actually feel a bit smug do you i'm going to bed now you just sit there and let telly rot your brain i'm gonna go watch tiktok in bed yeah i literally laid there for an hour last night i watched tiktok for an hour and i just thought to myself you're disgusted i had my book on my lap as if i was gonna read it no Just watch people falling over in the ice. Shall we get our guest on in two and a half minutes? We both said we had nothing to say at the start of this podcast.

We've really strung it out close to... I'd argue we haven't. Do you want one bit of correspondence? Just because we're talking doesn't make it content, does it? Oh, come on. You know how podcasting works. No, let's get through to the end of this without content. All right. Shall I play prince harry singing your song um he's i honestly mate i'm gonna say

it now i gave up on spare i didn't enjoy it oh just too much just fuck it how we get it you're in the army fuck it if i wanted bravo 2-0 I'd have fucking bought it mate five contextive chapters on flying an Apache helicopter I couldn't give a shit tell me some things about Prince Charles five chapters on an Apache

this is like when Lou tried to make me read John Steinbeck oh my god that bloke loves to describe a field oh my god fuck me

this is Oh my God, that bloke loves to describe a field. Oh my God. Fuck me. This is Prince Harry. I hope you don't mind. I hope you don't mind that I put down in words how wonderful life is while you're in the world. He sang it with a twinkle and a smile. Oh, he's not even that. What? That was worse than just reading it.

I know, just read it. In his defence, though, the audiobook is horrible to do. Yeah, I know, but... On your own. He's had to read out five chapters on a patch. He's probably thinking, I've overdone it on a patch. I've doubled down. I've cinquented down on a patch. He's probably thinking I've overdone it on a patch. I've doubled down. I've cinquented down on a patch.

That is tough. I feel so. Yeah, I would have just read that out. That's by producing that. I think. It's a little bit funny. If I put down in words. He doesn't believe it.

He doesn't believe that he should be singing this. It's a little bit funny. I hope you don't mind. i hope you don't mind i hope you don't mind that i put down in words the apache helicopter one of modern technology's marvels we've done it all right we've got to get our guests on we We've got to get our guest. Okay, we've got... We have William and Kate Windsor. Right, should we do our guest? Yeah. Who have we got this week?

Right. Is he the best looking man you've ever met? Well, unfortunately, I'll never be able to meet me. So, yes. Our guest this week, David Gandy. What a salt. David Gandy, welcome to the the podcast we're very excited to have you on can i call you gandy did we call you gandy when me and romesh met you do you like gandy i've been gandys since i was about five i don't know i think at the end of school people came up to me i was 18

what is your first name i was like no i did yeah david Gandy, welcome to the show. Thank you. Josh, me and Gandy are best pals from my modelling days. Yeah, of course. I forgot about that, yeah. Yeah, when I used to, you know, New York Fashion Week, things like that, innit, Dave? Yeah.

What went wrong, Rob? What went wrong? What went wrong? Do you know what? I just lost the fire for it. They wanted me back, but I was like, if I can't do it to my full ability, I don't want to know.

He didn't believe in it anymore, did you? A bit like Cantona when he retired early from football. He still had the ability, but didn't fancy it. You've got to go out on top though, Rob.

That's the thing. Exactly. Leave them wanting more. Yeah, exactly. He does. The weird thing is about that, is like, everything I've done,

everyone comes up to me and speaks about that episode from Rob Bamber-Mesh. Really? I'm like, that's the best thing you is like everything I've done, everyone comes up to me and speaks about that episode. Really? I'm like, that's the best thing you've done. I was like, I was on it for three minutes. I was like, they just said best thing, funniest thing you've ever done. I was like, oh, great. Thanks for that.

More than the, more than the advert. More than the, is it, you know, the advert in the pants that we recreated. To be honest, I got a little bit worried during that episode because you know, when you first did your photo shoot, it was actually really good. I know like you did your portfolio. Oh, it was.

Yeah, the portfolio is not bad actually. I don't know if you've seen it, Josh. It's actually pretty good, yeah. People are gonna think this is, which is quite easy, but this is like an easy game. Is it easy, David? Yeah, but yeah, just want to say, then Josh, we got them on, It's like an easy game. Is it easy, David? Yeah. But yeah, to be honest,

then, Josh, we got them on... Then you had to recreate the light blue in the white pants. Yeah, I'd say it's not easy if you've got my body to recreate David Gandy's famous shot of him on the boat. How would you feel if your kids went into modelling at an older age?

But Josh, we need to establish the listener don't know how many kids... I'm being seamless. You're not being seamless. My two kids, since you mentioned. But we normally ask the guests... How many kids have you got? How old are they? It's so seamless. If you ever want to do a podcast, let us know if you need any tips, hints, pointers.

I've got two kids, Joe. i've got two girls uh four just just over four and just over one oh right oh okay busy age very tired i'm knackered mate i haven't slept in four years this is good i mean that's actually one thing that the industry because i mean being in the industry you're you i've been jet lagged for 20 years yeah i've been on 90 plus yeah the wife finally found a use for me what I don't sleep right okay well I'm gonna get a good night's sleep and you do the nights and that was amazing then be the rule so I basically just got used to you know being able to function on four or five hours sleep. So to that to other people is, when they have a baby is an absolute shock.

I mean, they're just, they're just like, oh my God, like, how do you function? I've been doing that for years. 90 flights, 90 flights a year. That's what I've done. Sometimes more. Have you got a part-time job as cabin crew or something? As well as...

I've got a lot of fucking air miles I can't spend for some reason. So, cause I would say though, having a kid is just like being jet lagged isn't it like all the time and you're saying that you've been preparing for this and it helps it's sleep deprivation isn't it sleep deprivation is used as torture and then we and then we have children and put it in like someone said to me the other day it was the thing that if one of the most complicated, hardest things in life, and anyone can do it. Like you're not, you don't have to have an exam. You're like, you know, when you leave the hospital, they sort of come and check.

They bring your baby down. If you're in a car, they go, got a car seat. You go, yeah. And you put the baby and they go, well, you're good to go. And you go, are we? Are you sure we're good to go? Because I think we're good to go. Yeah, because when I worked at Sangebiz,

they had this big machine that you put the cardboard in and it would crush it to get it into a small cube to send off. I wasn't allowed to use that machine because I hadn't been trained. No, no, it was just that you weren't allowed to use the machine, right? Yeah, everyone else was. But yeah, it is brutal.

How have you found it? Did you always want to be a dad and you're loving it now or was it you know no i mean i love kids because basically i am one still um and i think that's where i think dads come into their own a little bit in some ways because we love to be a bit silly and a bit stupid and kids kind of love that so i've my sister has six children oh wow she's got three boys three girls and so I had lots of nieces and nephews um and she's she's one of those annoying people that makes it look effortless like yeah she lives over in Spain with her husband and then she said oh you know I said look and we're having a birthday party or we're getting one of the kids christened it's going to be mad for you to come over all the kids. And there she is on her own, brings the six kids,

or we're all flying with each other. Seamless, like six suitcases, six bags. We've got two, and, you know, we're having a nervous breakdown about getting in the car and going to Waitrose. It's just, I don't know how she does it. It's just quite annoying. Did she give you tips, or did you find it? Because sometimes people with a lot of kids,

they'll give new parents or soon to be parents tips and it's quite frustrated. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not a big person on the, on the tips on the parenting tips thing. You don't like them. When other people give advice. No,

I'm not the most patient person when that comes to that at all. I don't think I do as well. I don't think I give, I just think everyone has to do it in their own way. You have to make your mistakes and you have to learn from them and every child is different every one of my children every one of my you know my sister's six children have been brought up in the same way have been schooled so they're all entirely different every one of them yeah so you just you just have to adapt very very quickly and uh I think I kind of got to that when we started going to birthday parties or meeting parents at the nursery,

and then there was a slightly different dynamic of, I remember one birthday party, it's like they just did fish and chips. And I said to them, wait, has he got some tomato sauce? Well, I mean, that just led to World War III and one with you parents. Oh, we don't do, oh, you let your daughter have tomato sauce. Oh, wow. I was like, yes, tomato sauce. And then, of course, my daughter's used to having a bit of tomato sauce.

You know, she has a little, you know, tomato sauce. That's what she's allowed. You animal, David. You absolute savage. The kids, you know, the kids who have never had tomato sauce got the bottle, they were squeezing it everywhere in their mouths and everything else. See, this is why we don't allow tomato sauce.

It's like, really? No, I think if you... It's all like moderation. So Lou, I think I've spoken about this before, was not allowed fizzy drinks as a kid. She smashes through Diet Coke like a monster. It's some sort of inbuilt thing of a, yes, can get it now do you know what i mean yeah so i wasn't i wasn't really allowed fizzy drinks and i don't i still don't really drink fizzy drinks yeah it's quite a weird thing what

my mum used to allow me and i don't know if you know them scampi fries awful the smell and now i still love scampi fries, so I get in the car, go on the road trip and get my packet of scampi fries and people are like, what is wrong with you? I love a scampi fry,

but the smell makes you feel physically sick and my brain goes, just eat them quick and you won't have to smell them anymore. Which I think is the right way. Because they're good for you. Just get them down you. Get fish.

It's good, isn't it? Fish is good for you. It's brain food. So what's your children's diet like um pretty good right to be honest i mean uh i'm quite nutritionally i i had to be i kind of taught myself to be quite nutritionally uh aware yeah me too stuff big time but you know we're as guilty as as as any but there's you know my idea people think i'm ultra careful about what i eat and everything and carbs and i'm not at all so you know it's just like instead of if they want chips they get sweet potato fries and stuff like that that you

can yeah the kids will still eat my kids don't like chips they don't like chips i've never met kids that don't like they don't like chips they just go no i don't like chips they don't like chips i've never met kids that don't like they don't like chips they just go no i don't like chips who don't like chips they know who don't like who don't like chick it's important i don't know anyone that don't like chips it's impossible not to like chips in it you're always saying i got them at mcdonald's what are they doing they don't eat the chips they just have nuggets or the burger if they're mcdonald's they don't eat the chips it's weird that's weird isn't it yeah but i don't feel like i should try and get my kids into chips no you shouldn't be pushing them finish your chips get them down yeah you're not getting off this table until you eat your chips yeah eat all those chips so how have you been traveling a lot

still since the babies have been born then so So have you, or have you cut back? It's just when the baby was born, I kind of knew that, because it's only really me and Steph. So our families, her families are, they're up in Lancashire, Yorkshire. So they're four or five hours drive away. My parents are two and a half hours drive away. So it's just us, like that was it. So those years, I love traveling.

That was my life for 20 years i love traveling like that that was my my life uh for 20 years and i love it but yeah it was just a conscious decision i moved all the companies to london um start a new company so i could focus on those uh and bring in bring in teams and is that an idea to stop you being out then if you've got like because you've got your new company where i want to talk to you about well where is your new sort of clothing line is it sort of going okay how can i establish work where i can be at home more rather than going out for shoots and stuff like that yeah yeah and if i do go then it's a one night rule pretty much so right it doesn't matter where it is even if it's new york it's out get there in the morning do the round have one night have another day and

then come back again. Because I suppose as a model, is there a thing like, what's the progression? Because as you get older, you're obviously a very good looking man, but is there much work for older models? Well played Rob, I was going to see how you're going to deal with it. Obviously you're still very good looking now. I'm not saying you're not. But I'm just saying, what is it?

Do you have to think of almost like a get out plan? But you could be like a silver fox, couldn't you 60 i suppose they must be still like you like if your hair if your hair goes gray i suppose if not yeah do you have any trouble we can't recall yourself silver fox if you've got brown hair you could do like walk-in baths and stuff like adverts for them yeah men's nappies shit yourself in style with david gandy still still on the still on the dinghy with brown pants instead of white ones um but because you're at clovid because i've been looking at it it looks i'd say david it it is like the coolest but quite comfy dad clothes. That's the sort of vibe.

Go to Wellwear. I looked at it. I was like, I like this because you look stylish, but it looks like soft cotton. Do you know what I mean? It looks comfy. It's pretty much what we did, Robbie, in many ways, is we're going to go into the boring psychological,

scientific view of why we choose soft clothing. Please do. I want to know because I'm all over a fleece, but I look like a prick. I want to look like you. If you want to go in scientific view, it's the same thing as when you, say, you stroke a dog or a cat and oxytocin is released.

It's that feel-good factor of soft clothing. All right. And there are scientific studies been done on students people in workplaces in comfortable clothing and not unlike not comfortable clothing and productivity the positivity everything is increased students exam results were better in comfortable clothing including yeah so it all has a it has a major impact actually on and so do other things like sustainability um oh fuck that mate i want to feel comfy i'm joking basically everyone always thinks i'm in suits i'm in tailoring well we met in salvo row of course i love suits and tailoring yeah predominantly most of the time i'm in um sweatshirts or t-shirts or

yeah you know every day you know looking after children or going to the pub or doing all these different things and that I was always in t-shirt and jeans or sweatshirts and it just got to a point where we were I'd already done stuff with M&S anyway which was I was kind of known for the Andy Ward's graph and then I just said well I want to you know change the narrative a bit and move that brand on so we just did the ultimate, the ultimate t-shirts, the ultimate sweatshirts and we did things like really simple things which people think are genius but I put side pockets in everything. So they're handy. Sweatshirts, when you're as a dad you know you like I mean literally you go out and we don't have a bag do we like well you can't have a handbag

I'm not judging but you know you don't have a bag like a woman has a bag so you've got your kids stuff you've got a mobile phone and then my kid goes you put my unicorn in your pocket go you've got a unicorn got tissues got something else and it's that sort of utility yeah so we we've you know we've worked on the you know the comfort level is one the sustainability of it you know, we've worked on the, you know, the comfort level is one, the sustainability of it. And then, yeah, really just the style. Yes.

Mixing those elements together because you still want to look stylish. Because I reckon I could wear this to the school gates without people talking about it behind my back. Because sometimes, yeah, because that's my ultimate dream is to look comfy but presentable. Yeah, you're always one side or the other aren't you rob exactly i could never get their balance right i think gandhi's nailed it do you do you do you guys worry about the school drop off and what you're wearing yes i went in shorts the other day and it was too there was too much chat about my legs shorts it's been it's been about minus

four i've been to the gym and I didn't have time to go home and then people were like, you're wearing shorts and I was like, I've been to the gym and they were like oh, someone's been to the gym and I'm like, I'm not making a statement about I'm never going in shorts again. It was so controversial. I think all the losers at the school gates are just jealous

mate. Yeah, exactly. I can't help it if I've got good pins. You know how it is David. You've either got it or you haven't. Actually't should i turn up in all sorts of stuff like i've we've been building a house for years so i've been on like we're finally in but i've been on site and i mean like boots and a barber and a like strange sort of like outfits that have to go i have to go into a meeting but they have to be on site and yes've turned up in some... I've gone to the gym and then gone to do the school pick-up as well.

I bet no one's having a go at your legs, though, are they, David? Unlike me. No one's going, oh, hark at him with his legs out. Wouldn't wear shorts. Yes. That's an error, as we... As us two know, Josh. That's a couple of stylist guys.

It was quite funny, actually. There's a couple of dads. I was quite quite funny actually there's um uh a couple of dads i kind of call them the rogue dads um at nursery um and one of them tommy he's very cool he's a good friend of mine now very cool guy like got the beard the long hair really handsome and he said to me the first time he went so the first day at nursery he said you know to the wife i'm gonna absolutely nail first i'm gonna so the first day at nursery he said you know to the wife I'm going to absolutely nail first I'm going to be the coolest dad at school so he like turns up

and he said I've got it and he said and fucking David Gandy turns up in the sports car and like that's my life that's like

something from a sitcom isn't it actually I think you know I'm the younger dad I'm going to be one of the cooler ones Gandy rolls in

so I've got to go straight to New York after this, actually. What are you doing? Just walking home, are you? Having a coffee? So is your eldest going to school soon? She is, yeah, she'll go in September. In September.

And how are you feeling about that? Looking forward to getting some time back or? I have this weird thing where I hated school. Yes. Absolutely hated it. So I'm more nervous than she is so i'm getting when i walked in so we've got obviously you've been to see the schools and when we've had the meetings with the teachers i'm going in having that pit of my you know in the stomach feeling

like i'm going back to school like you hear songs of praise on a sunday night you haven't done your homework oh yeah i know exactly how you feel i was exactly the same and I was petrified, but she didn't give a shit and she loves it. Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah, so she seems to be really looking forward to it and I'm kind of like a little bit nervous. Are you worried about passing your feelings on to her? No, because I'm positive about it.

Because I think I had that experience, I know what it shouldn't be. I know how school should be. And my wife had absolutely astounding, you know, she loved school. We had very, very different upbringings. I don't get those people. I can't believe it.

I liked school. I didn't love school. Love school's weird. Are you calling David Gandy's wife weird? No, I'm not calling David Gandy's wife weird. Well, that's what you've just done. Shh, don't tell anyone. I'm sure she'd get over it. She's married calling David Gandy's wife weird. Well, that's what you've just done. Shh, don't tell anyone. I'm sure she'd get over it.

She's married to David Gandy. She doesn't give a shit what I think. She's fucking cracked it. She's cracked the code. When people say that, they go, I love school. I didn't want to. I had people that didn't even want to leave school or leave university.

I had friends that just kept on doing doctorates. So I don't think they wanted to get out of education i couldn't i said the only thing i learned from university was i shouldn't have gone to university that's the only thing that i learned you've done all right for yourself in the end david i'd say not by anything i learned at university not by anything i learned at school to honest i'm still waiting to use something did you did you miss the week where you learned about um soft fabrics because that was one of my favorite weeks if you didn't that science lesson yeah what did you do at uni then what was you studying at uni i did uh multimedia computing right what does that mean i don't know i didn't know what it meant in the first lecture either that was before social media as well i

mean like just like powerpoint but they the teachers couldn't it was moving at such a rate they couldn't teach the same thing so they were going you really have to show us what's available what what you can do with stuff um i was the only person i still remember it to this day mm101 which was multimedia 101 i was the only person there that didn't have a laptop i mean i just bundled in from i just bundled in from i just bundled in from freshers week and was not feeling the best and then everyone's heads like coding yeah anyway uh we lasted a few years now i came to the fashion game and uh didn't really know what i was doing in there either but um the founder founder found a niche i should say

with the kids to go back on the earlier question i've established would you like them to follow into the fashion game um there's nothing wrong with it and i i obviously came into the industry i knew nothing about it my family knew nothing about it uh and we also sort of went down a path of branding that really no other male model had kind of stepped before. We've gone the boundaries of where other male models had gone to try and rival the female supermodels. So I've always felt like I'm not quite sure what I was doing, and it was all on me.

But if they wanted to, it's just that, to be honest, it's a different industry now. It's not the industry that we knew and the glamour and everything else it's a lot to do with um influences and you know your your engagement on social media and so it's completely a completely changed industry um so yes i wouldn't i i personally have a bit of problem with people going into modeling before i mean they can go in before they're 16 which i don't agree with that you can go in at 16 um and then you don't have to have a uh you know a book or anyone go with you after that I think that should be a lot older yeah um so I would always say to my children listen 18 is the cut off point if you want to explore go and explore up until that point you're not going anywhere

near it of course I've had everyone say can we do the shoots with the kids can we you do it can't pay the children but i'm i keep um everything off of social and uh yeah i want my kids to have a childhood really like the north no not normal i'm saying normal but um yeah they wouldn't exploit their experiences for a profit would you for a profit would you no we would never do that we do keep them off the social media and something yeah but for you it is all like the image of it and having to do photo shoots would be a lot of sort of pressure on them but i was thinking though like because of the lifestyle that you had you're doing 90 flights a year traveling all over the world did you think to a point will you ever meet someone and settle down and have kids because it's not really the lifestyle for that kind of relationship is it absolutely um i suppose you

always hope you do you just adapt to the situation at the time really and um you know even when you know we're in the relationship i'm still flying around and you just have to that that's your life that's what you have to do and you have to adapt to that and um um when you have kids yeah it was it was dead i resist i i had positioned that so that i didn't have to be flying as much i'd love to be away i mean don't get me wrong i mean that is my life and i love doing i i was then suddenly going from doing i hate routine i can't stand routine yeah um and then i'm you are in student you know get up take a dog for a walk look after the baby go and do some work go to you know go to the supermarket come back go to look and you're in this routine and I will admit it you go what the fuck am I doing

so what is your routine now then what how's it how are you splitting it because it's madness it is honestly, honestly madness. We've been building a house for two years. There is no real routine. My other half is a barrister. So again, you have a routine. We don't know when she's going to be in court, not be in court. I mean, she's literally come at this moment and said,

you know what, I wasn't in court yesterday. Because they called it I am in court now. So, you know, nursery runs, school runs, work, everything. She's in court. she can't do anything about it she has to be so i have to change my everything tomorrow um what's she been accused of stuff around bit of fun actually made that same i don't know like oh no king charles he i met him he's gonna say badder as king charles i'll jump in again did you what there's more than the king i think there's King Charles. I met him. He's got the same banner as King Charles. Oh, John Winnicott. Did you?

What? There's nothing better than the king? That's worse. He made that joke. And I met him. We were in Scotland doing something with the British War. And I met him. I said, actually, I'm meeting you for Soldiers.

I'm a patron for it. And he said, I'll see you tonight. And I said, my other half will be there. And I mean, bless him. When he got to that party, he's probably met another 500 people that day. He said, David, remember my name? He said, where is like, is Stephanie here? And I said, my God, you're like, you remember?

I said, I'm so sorry. And he says, she's in court. And he said, oh my goodness, what did she do? Lady's sake joke. But I thought it was very good. Like I've always been very, very fond of it. Yeah, I like the cut of his jib. We should get him on.

At least you're not doing Prince Philip's schtick that'd get us in trouble Josh let's keep it to Charles Prince Charles would be a good guess how are you getting on with both your sons let's go through them one at a time and your brother how's he apart from that

I was going to ask Will though obviously your kids are having a much different lifestyle to you now like you know you grew up in Billericay do you ever take them back to billericay to see their roots i don't go back that much i've still got all friends there they're still close friends my family my mom and dad moved from billericay they moved uh 13 14 years ago um still in essex they're in the essex off of board now billericay was i think i was saying this the other day to uh a couple of the dads is that when i was i remember being nine or ten and i would just leave i would leave like i said mom see you later and she'd be like yeah bye and i would be on roller skates or a bike or something and i would

go over the other side of town to meet my friend anthony and my mom wouldn't know where i was all day and then you know i would go back to anthony's or anthony would come back to us and then their moms would go i'll call your mom's guys like tell them you don't want to stay for dinner yet stay for dinner and we'll drop you off later like the hot like nine or ten just yeah yeah 12 hours we I'm taking I haven't got a nine-year-old yet but I couldn't imagine no or leaving at nine or ten no yep see you later have a good just walk across town on your roller skates off you go so. So yeah, it's a different upbringing. I wouldn't say it's vastly different. I mean, it's pretty normal.

I had a pretty normal upbringing. And there's things that my parents have instilled into me. My father was keen for us to see a lot of education through travel. So he took us everywhere. So my dad had a very impoverished background so wanted to see the world so and I didn't really appreciate that I have to say and we we've been to he took us to the Amazon and Alaska and Africa and all these different places we did that and I never appreciated that until um until actually I met David Attenborough and I

spoke to him about being amongst gorillas and tracking for gorillas there's not that many people that can do that but that's where I always understood it's like listen to your mum and dad they do actually know what they're talking about I remember going to my dad once I was about 17 and I had 11 my first girl was 11 year old called Fiesta the windows didn't work I went on a date a couple of times the window didn't go down and then the uh the door latches broke so she had to get out through the sunroof that was it and i was i was furious about it i was like dad this is this car it's like and then so we're chatting i said dad when we are going on these holidays i said they obviously cost you know a decent amount of money and he said yeah of course david he said

um i said so could i maybe not come on holiday? And I put that money towards a car. Now, my dad, without even blinking, sort of said, David, you don't have to come on holiday, but you're not getting a new car. So you decide whether you want to sit on your own during the summer or whether you want to go. I said, I think I'll come on holiday. He went, good, just get out of my office. And that was basically it. So it was a different yeah it was parents

know best and you know the first thing where i met david i went to dad and went i was just able to speak to david atmer about being amongst gorillas he said amazing do you want to take your kids traveling a lot as well is that something you want to put with your yeah have you taken them anywhere yet like you know they're young i'm gonna sound like you see there's this one thing where i'm very conscious especially i suppose with my upbringing is that i want my children to know the value of money and i want them to work and i want them to graft i want them to yeah things aren't given to them i'm doing a terrible job at that at the moment like i mean my daughter learned and this is going to sound so pretentious,

my daughter learned to walk her first steps on a beach in Turks and Caicos. Oh, really? And that's quite uneven, that sand, so she's got good stability, good balance. It's like the Brazilian footballers, when they learn on a beach, they're actually better when they then get on the pitch.

She'll be a superb walker on grass. Yeah, she is. They learn very early. And I look at that and she's on the wrong she's no it's the right end of the plane but the wrong end of the plane she shouldn't be here um and i just think these things all the time and i just think no and i'm angry like she's she's just going to get used to this and think that this is how people live unless you don't have to yeah i was watching jerry seinfeld today and he was he's been to everything the comedians

and cars with coffee yeah good show and he was, he's been to, have you ever seen the comedians in cars with coffee? Yeah, no, yeah. Good show. And he was, and he said to, I was getting into it and his daughter said, are we rich?

And he said, well, I am. I thought that was a good answer. Yeah. But yeah, it's that element to all of those things. Like I want to know value money and want them to work

and just not that everything is just done for you, really, end of the day yeah that was that was instilled in i worked i was a pizza deliverer i um i worked voluntarily at a dog century when i was like 15 16 um you know i i paid my dues in many ways of understanding that you have to work for stuff and you have to graft well you know you've got but you've grafted in your career as well like you say when you first come into it you were treading new ground really because it was the female supermodels but not not the men and you sort of you know establish yourself and even then you've got to this level you're still like starting new brands and stuff like that but i think sometimes when you want to show your kid what you're doing it's like they'll see from how you are hopefully but yeah i think great example right you can't really tell anyone anything you show them and i think when they

get a bit older and see that you're grafting my daughter's gonna see how stressed i am and go i want that life i want someone who's constantly panicking about their career that's what i'm looking for laying in bed at 9 p.m listening to brown noise crying. That's the lifestyle I want. You've mentioned a couple of times like the parents at nursery and stuff. Are you heavily, are you, because I'd say there's a difference between me and Rob. I'm quite into being the kind of amongst the parents and the WhatsApp groups and stuff.

Rob hates all the other parents and he won't deny that. I don't hate them all. I'm just, I'm busy and I play football with them, but I'm not organising treats. Rob hates all the other parents. So where are you? My other half calls me socially inept for a start. That might give you an idea of, I'm quite a loner.

So my wife is brilliant at social elements. Like she's great. So she's involved brilliant at social elements. Like she's, she's, she's great. So she's involved in that whole thing. I, I, I, like I have, I think we've chosen, we're choosing each other. I call them kind of like the rogue element. So the dads that will go to the pub and they'll have a few eggs and we'll take the kids to a lunch, but we know it's actually really a bit of a booty. Yeah. And yeah,

the same sort of mindset. There's like, I'm very obviously polite and nice to everyone. I won't know people. It's like, we've been there for a few years now. My wife will still say the names of the children and the mom and dad. I'll be like,

which one's that? Who's that? Oh my word. If I had a game, if I had to match the children to the parents, that would be one of the worst days of my life. If they were all lined up outside the school and I had to give them children to the right parents would be one of the worst days of my life if they were all lined up outside the school and i had to give them children to the right parents could you do it

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That's like... I can't enjoy this now because you've ruined the routine. You're going to be downstairs without us while we try and get crying children to bed. Yeah, absolutely. You fucking morons. I told you come round at five. I just did that for a laugh, do you do you yeah i plucked that out the air you cretins yeah it's like my friends they were they were

walking across the other day and they said well we'll walk from richmond and meet you halfway i was like great they then walked for like 40 minutes and i still wasn't there they were where are you i was having a half an hour because my daughter had a tantrum because she didn't want to change her tights but she didn't want to change her tights but didn't want to change the time so I said to put some warm trousers because it's freezing outside but she didn't want to wear trousers because trousers don't go with her dress and it was this and I wasn't giving and then she was I don't want to go out now I was like well we're going out so you're not watching television and I wasn't giving, and then she was like, I don't want to go out now. I was like, well, we're going out, so you're not sitting watching television.

And I was adamant I wasn't giving up this argument, and my kind of other half walked in into this kind of, she was just like, oh, right, I'm going to leave you two guys to this. And I was like, yes, just let me, because I've got to be strong on this one. I'm not going to break. So, and then we walked out, and they would have walked over. So five minutes later, like, it was literally,

I walked into the park for two minutes, and then we came back home and had a cup of coffee. I was like, well, that's it. So that's, that's that done made the kid cry i cried went into the park for two minutes all come back everyone hates each other what a lovely saturday minus three the dog hasn't got walk she's angry with me my daughter's angry with me because she can't wear the tights why is wife's angry at me because she's just angry at me, just generally.

There is a slight resentment that I think lingers for about six, seven years from your partner. They're just sort of general, like, disdain and disgust that I get from Lou's eyes. You put a time limit on that, though. So is there light at the end of the tunnel, Rob? Oh, yeah, she's all over me now. She can't get enough of me

that's what you think as well it's like a house full of women including the dog there is a point where i get ignored by everyone so even out even like my baby the tab she's one if she bumps her head or before that hurts herself slightly i could be nowhere near this she blames me for it she like she stares at me in like the test of like i don't know what it's like it's not me i wasn't anywhere near her she steely hones like my she like just turns away from me i'm like it's your curse that you're in the only house of women in the world that wouldn't want david gandhi to be there delighted david you hang around long enough to become the villain david that's Every other house of women. Delighted David.

You hang around long enough to become the villain, David. That's how it works. I've got to even, I've got to get a dog, like a dog, like a male dog. I've got to get one. Male dog? Male dog to watch the football with. Yeah. Do your daughters like, my daughters are going for a stage now where they won't hug me because my beard's scratchy.

And they hate that. That's something I'm struggling with at the moment to the point where i have to pull a jumper over my face which i think is worse and then they'll do it but now i feel like they're just doing it because they find it funny because i'm so pathetic what you mean by pull a jumper over your face oh so i can't really do it with this one as such but like if i had a bit more of a looser one like that yeah a bit like you just pull it over a bit like a balaclava pull it over like that and then i can hug me there and then my beard my beard's covered that is that's pathetic mental scars there is that it's like my daughter there is this routine in bed where i've kind of i've always done the bedtimes where it's now like

put your pajamas on you get one video to watch on my phone whilst i'm putting my charms on because you can't work out otherwise they're jumping. They can't get your legs in later. So you get one video. You get one video, that's fine. It's then two stories. It's then have a little conversation about stories. And then she leans on my arm and she has a back tickle and then she's asleep.

And it's like a half an hour. But I'd rather go through that than we've had other parents here that leave their kids in beds with iPads or phones. Yes. And I'm like, no, I'll go through beds with iPads or phones yes and I'm like no I'll go through my half an hour then I know I'm good for the evening but the last two nights is she's always like she's like daddy I lay on your arm lay on your arm and she goes and then for the last two nights she's gone your arm's too hot daddy and turned over and I'm that's killed me

and I'm like and I don't want that but before that i've been moaning about her like oh why'd you have to like into myself like oh i've had to disarm and that's the routine and when she says i don't want to do it i'm devastated and i'm like oh i know don't do that and then and then when i get a bit older david like i was like oh it'll get easier like but actually i'm finding it harder because they get clever because they can negotiate so it'll be like no three videos for that and then it'll be like oh actually let's have a song so they start and go oh well can we have a song on like the alexa thing and they dance and sing along to the song before bed time which is quite a bad idea because they get all amped up just wind them down by getting them to dance and sing along to a song on alexa and then they go well let me pick a song and then

the other one will go well she picked a song i need to pick a song now and then they go well you need to pick a song i'm like i don't want to pick a song but it's only fair and i'll pick a song then and then i will we need to do the family song i'm like this never ends and you're so tired and weak you just they're just like in your brain and i can't compete it's so hard but when you've got a routine like you've got at the moment that's that it's a sweet spot i think when it depends on the song you're choosing but what you know i want all by myself that's what i'm doing percy sledge trying to get into sleep so uh yeah it's just this routine thing that we do and it's like i've i've but i love children negotiating where they don't actually realize so i go all right five minutes and they go three they go okay

three's better yeah my daughter will do that eat five more bits of pasta seven fine yeah i'm glad you do that five bits of pasta three more bits yeah one bit of the pasta what is that a bad thing to be doing i'm like three bits of pasta one bit of avocado one carrot and then i'm I'm terrible like I never thought like the bribing thing yeah I've taken that one

like if you do that you get an ice cream or like dessert pudding but the other day was I was trying to get to finish a pizza to have pudding but the pudding was watermelon

I'm like surely just give her the watermelon that's better like stop giving her pizza let her have the fruit the fruit's alright fruit's all right.

It's not like she was going to have a tiramisu or something. So, you say, are there certain foods your kids are into? Are they just eating anything? Mine are quite picky. They don't even like chips, though. Yeah, they don't like chips. No, they're quite good. Plain pasta.

My other half is half Greek. So, yeah, I mean, we're used to around the house having olives and big beans and stuff like that. So they're cheesy. Big beans? They're called big beans. Even in Greece, they're called big beans. Oh, big beans. I've never had a big bean in a Greek salad.

Big beans. What do you mean, big beans? I can't actually. You sure she's Greek? The Greek. I've been to Greece. I didn't see one big bean, did I? I'd say average beans.

They come out of a can. It says Heinz. And it's Greek. That's big beans. No, I'm honestly just joking. I've Googled big beans Greek. Yeah. And I now make those because she's Greek.

And they're something that in Greece you're eating that's delicious. It's like a gnocchi size. Oh, I know, a big bean. Yeah, a big can of leg beans. So, yeah, they're not olives. They'll eat olives and avocados and stuff like that. Feta? Feta? Yeah. I mean, this sounds terrible.

She has either a croissant or a pan of chocolate every morning. Oh, we went through a croissant phase. Gosh, she's gosh a 40 year old divorcee that works in media she has a latte that's not that's not that's not oat milk oat milk latte at the same time it's not terrible, but at the same time, it's like, I don't know, cornflakes or Frosties. Yeah.

A slice of toast or something. It's probably better than Frosties. It's probably better than Frosties. Yeah. I can hear myself again talking like in the morning. Yeah. Would you like a butter croissant or would you like a pan of chocolate? I'm like, what are you doing? What the fuck is it?

She has a buttered bagel. My daughter has a buttered bagel. The other one has jam on toast. But I think jam on toast is just like the English croissant or pan of chocolate yeah it's not fancy though is it it's a bit of chocolate in the middle of some butter i know yeah because growing up it was like oh you're a bit fancy but actually it's just sort of normal food in france no one in france is going look at this posh kid i don't think we're too strict i would rather my children uh eat something they enjoy rather than trying to force them yeah yeah what i presume yeah we've all you know it's i think social media

got a lot to do with that i feel like your life your life changed david from your background to where you are now and you're struggling with your class, I'd recommend A Class Act by Rob Beckett, a book that explores the nature of class and the impact on people and their children. I'd say it's a great read. 200 pages on his first croissant. It's unbelievable stuff. Yeah. 3,000 words less than Prince Harry

talking about Apache helicopters. Oh, my God. Don't talk to me. Kids, kids, TV. Do you watch it? Yes. What's your favourites? It progresses, doesn't it,

from when they're young to... So, Cocomelon. We're back onto Cocomelon. Okay, yeah. That's a tough slog. It's a tough one, that one. When I talk about kids' programmes, I feel like four ex-cons talking about prisons.

But I did a fourth stretch at Belmarsh. He's done two years on Cocoa Melon you what baby Jake was my Belmarsh baby Jake or him

so you're on Cocoa Melon yeah Cocoa Melon Dougie I enjoy yeah Dougie I can take there's certain ones I can I will watch also Blue we've done that Blue's okay they're still quite young though aren't they one and four yeah I enjoy. Yeah. Dougie, I can take. There's certain ones I can, I will watch also.

Blue, we've done, that Blue's okay. They're still quite young though, aren't they? One and four. Yeah. So we're, they love like the Frozen thing.

Yeah. Moana. So in the car, on the way to, he's singing, and I will do it as well. Like it's either Frozen or Moana or I can't remember what the other one was.

There's like three. Encanto. Encanto. yes, that's the one. Yeah. So it's those three. Not that they sit and really watch the films. It's more just the music in the car that we enjoy. What about Twirly Woos? Have you done the Twirly Woos?

I quite like the Twirly Woos. I miss the Twirly Woos. I like them. You've not had the Twirly Woos yet? That's like an open prison, isn't it? One of those ones where like a financial crime you get sent to no I haven't done twirly woos

can't believe I just said the word twirly woos oh right big beans and twirly woos what an episode also I feel like sometimes I kind of get into an episode and I want to know what like if I ever go back to Thomas the Tank Engine like there's a story behind something so the kids go can we turn over I'm like i just want to see what happens to thomas

30 seconds like oh no okay yeah that's fine it is weird that like those people that make kids shows when we talk to like so they're seen by so many people you wouldn't expect to watch these shows do you know what i mean yeah like like you wouldn't think dav watch these shows. Do you know what I mean? Yes. Like, you wouldn't think David Gandy would have a view on Hey Dougie. You just wouldn't think it. Have you been asked to do... We were talking to Michael Sheen about Mr. Tom. Yeah, you must have done a bedtime story, haven't you? No, I

would actually quite like to do a bedtime story. Get him in. He'd be great. But again, that's something I choose. I also go, what do you want to read? And I go, oh, Daddy would choose, because Daddy has the ones that he enjoys reading. Yeah. Not know go what do you want to read and I go oh daddy will choose because daddy has the ones that he enjoys reading yeah yeah not the ones that sometimes you enjoy reading like the dinosaur that pooped hey poop's funny like that's that's a good one you don't don't saw the boot there don't saw the poop to princess yeah the lady enjoys those ones and um

have you done you choose have you got these books oh yeah that's good those yeah so it's like no you're a princess which castle do you want? Yeah, they do, they read, they choose the story. I don't know, I think my kids have got enough opinions. How about I fucking choose? Sorry. Very true. Are they good, though?

Do they like them? Yeah, they're good. I quite enjoy them. They are good, I think. I think they're good, those books. Sometimes you and Stephanie just sit and do it. Does she read You Choose to you? Are you good to choose?

I think those days, yeah. Those days are awful. It's good to know even Gandhi's not shagging. Oh, that's great. It's good to know. That's given me a real boost dave that's really pumped me up it is that point of like you know having two one was one was okay you've got a bit of rest two is we have one each so if i'm yeah then with i'm doing stories with

until the steph's putting the baby down and then that that's how you know she looks up that then be the rules at the moment and if we are sometimes ever just in the bed together like because we were just like oh wow like hang on a minute and we're always waiting for like okay he's gonna wake up first or who yeah um and i'm quite strict about children being in bed so my step isn't so she's had the she'll have the baby in bed i can't be in a bed with a baby. Cause I just think I just don't trust. I'm kind of big and I'm a deep sleeper when I do sleep. And I just think I can't get to sleep cause I worry about it. So I might as well just go and sleep somewhere else.

But I did feel like for years I was, I was literally like a dog trying to find somewhere to sleep around the house. Like going around in a circle. Curling up on the floor. trying to find somewhere to sleep around the house like going around in a circle like anywhere and i don't think and i thought this was just me and then he speaks for the dags again oh no he said you know but dave one of my friends is six foot six and he says i've been you know trying to sleep in the same single bed as my son for years like he just has to sleep in there and then we're all doing the same thing so yeah but I'm I am quite strict so if my daughter comes in I see that's something I learned from my mum dad as well is that if I ever went down saying I can't sleep or go into the bedroom then my parents would use that and where it's a trick as a parenting thing is they don't say

anything to you they just take you by your hand and you're escorted back into your your bedroom and they sit there but they don't say anything so you're just straight back into your bed now i will say stuff and have a little conversation but if she comes in i i do get straight out we go back to your bedroom oh come on then and yeah i think that because we're trying to install like we don't really have them in our bed at all even we never have even when they were a lot younger we'd if they cried or were upset or had a bad dream we'd sit with them in their room until they went back to sleep and then on the odd occasion we've slept with them but normally we come back into the bedroom yeah but some people do have them in their bed for years till like six or seven or eight and

i just it would drive me mad i couldn't do it no and i there's but you try i mean in the end you're so sometimes tired you're like yeah i'm just gonna sleep in the bed with them yeah yeah well my youngest who's five came in at 5 a.m and she was like i had a bad dream i'm like lay there go to sleep it's too near getting up time to try and get her back i'm like just lay there and go to sleep we'll get two hours of sleep but it's quite nice actually you'll have a little cuddle the terrible parenting i would actually say i'm really guilty of probably lots of things but one of them is in the morning at like a 6 30 and she said daddy can i watch something on your phone i will go and i know i'll get 20 more minutes for half an hour and i'm quite careful about what they watch on phone or youtube or anything i'd make sure i could choose everything. At that time of the morning,

she could be watching Science of the Lambs. Like she could come out and do a review in the car. She'd be like, I didn't think Anthony Hopkins was that good in that. Not compared to Science of the Lambs. She's watching Andrew Tate videos. Comes out top G. Actually, I think the Matrix is trying to get him, Dad.

Lance, should we do the final question, question Josh it's been an absolute pleasure oh it's been brilliant this David um our final question is um what one thing does your partner do that you think is kind of you see I can't do the I'm so bad at the final question why am I so bad at it what one thing winds you up about the way your partner's definitely parents that really gets under your skin, but you don't really bring it up because you don't have an argument about it or kick off, everyone's tired. But if she wants to listen back, she might go, you know, I think he's got a point there. And as well as that, to get you out of jail, which you might need,

considering she's a barrister, what is the positive? What is the thing that she does when you go, I am so happy that I had children with this woman. She is amazing. What does she do as a mum? Got a tough ask here, Dave. I love this one where you say, well, you've never really said it then,

but do it on a podcast, like Millions of People, and then that will be fine. She'll like that one. It's a service, because if she listens, she might go, yeah, that's right, actually. You could have told her as well. Just reinforce on here it's up to you um depends how difficult you want this weekend to be for you yeah how long do i know that'll put the pressure on but a lot of people listen to this show how long do i want to be ignored for this week let's say um i think

i mean she is a i think she's probably a match, I would say the positive things, like a natural parent more than me. I would probably say she's wanted children. She's absolutely brilliant. Like she, I can't, there's not many things I say. Even if I think we, you know, she doesn't quite agree with something I've done or something I've said to the children and I'm vice versa is we'll back each other up

so yeah well daddy says you do what daddy says and you do what mommy says even then they'll go out and they'll go well I don't actually agree what you've done there but let's like we'll we'll have that discussion later so I think we're we we are always backing each other up um which is good um no she's just an incredible mom like she she really really is and and that's instilled like she teaches the kids to love each other as well like the two kids absolutely adore each other and it's good three years and she's how do you do that i mean this will change this will absolutely change change. I mean, I... How do you do that? How do you rank that?

I don't know. When this is, like, 13, 14, I think that might change slightly. Slightly, yeah. Absolutely. But the one thing that does wrong... I don't... God, I'm not going to go there. Come on, you pussy.

Go there. The worst thing is, the fact you won't go there means that there is one that he knows there is one to go i'm probably struggling to i think i think anything really thing that means they're very very different as in i love the outdoors i am a bit of a loner but i love the outdoors and taking dogs walks and walking up mountains and doing all these different things and i would love my children to be the same and steph you know like a lot of people is not doesn't enjoy

that she's you know she's also greeks do not understand walking up mountains anything like i will tell you we went once in greece and we said oh we walked up mountains mount uh mount zeus and they she the waiter went to me why did you do that and I like my children I want them outside with me I'm running and we have been doing that now we're we move to the new house and we're in Richmond Park and we've been building fairy dens and um but there is a case where you know where stephanie said no i'm not really don't really like it's quite cold on a stay in and of course it's hard to go kids come with me or stay at home with mummy in the warm yeah like we all want to kind of do it's like let's come out is mummy coming no she's not coming well why are we going because that's just it just do as you're told just come with me so it's not a criticism it's just we're we're we're different

in that way but i you know from that i just i suppose should we the judge of this is a criticism or not when she listens won't she that's she's embarrassed that she will be the judge definitely and even if she doesn't listen david she will be told about it at the school gate yet to win an argument in six years in this study yeah how is that do you genuinely just lose every argument with a barrister can't win for barristers you got it's just that they are trained just to they they are they are they are brilliantly trained to get what they want you to say out of you. That's pretty much it.

And you go, even when I think she's done something really wrong, like, got it, right, I can have a go at this one. Somehow I come out still being the bad person. How did that one happen? You did that wrong and it's me. If you ever are kicking off, do you ever go and put a wig and gown on and go to talk to her and go, look. I'm feeling pretty confident about this argument actually i've gone full method david thank you so much it's amazing and good luck with um your new range um well wear um i'm gonna get myself a nice

soft cotton hoodie yeah and trousers and be able to wear them for the school run without the disrespect that i get currently yeah it'd be good to see them on some hot bodies because I've looked at the pictures of you modelling it, David, and I thought, you want to see it on me and Rob? On some real men. That's what we need, some real men. I'll be photographed running out the chip shop with a load of chips. It's a real man.

It's how a real man wears it. But thanks so much David cheers for this lovely guys David Gandy there what a lovely bloke he's an absolute legend because I met him

with Romesh he's such a good bloke he's such a love sadly he's the full package that's really annoying well do you know what I thought that

because I was like oh he's probably going to be like boring or a wanker no funny likeable really good bloke heart in the right place very sensible but what i respect about is he doesn't ram it down your throat doesn't he lets it out in bursts he's not front and center it allows us to think maybe there's something wrong with him even though he knows he's

he's great um right see you on tuesday that was david gandy what a bloke um his clothes actually do look decent actually um sometimes let's be honest you do this show and they say oh can you mention that you look at it and go but i was actually looking at it going oh i'd wear that yeah that looks good looks comfy and smart right see you tuesday bye