Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S6 EP8: Sam and Billie Faiers

Episode Date: February 3, 2023

 Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) are the brilliant Sam and Billie Faiers. You can listen to their podcast 'The Sam & Billie Show' wherever you get your podcasts. And the new series of 'The Family Diaries' is out on Sunday 5th Feb. Thanks, Rob + Josh. We're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK? Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there... ON SALE NOW  14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena 19th April 2023 - Nottingham 20th April 2023 - Cardiff  21st April 2023 - London (The O2) 23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley) 28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena  If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] TWITTER: @parenting_hell INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parents in Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or, hopefully, how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with advice and of course tales of parenting woe because let's be

honest there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing hello you're listening to parenting hell with rose can you say josh would you come can you say rob can you say beckett good girl that was good wasn't it i like that who was that that was i'm doing this one now because we'll explain why in a minute that was rose rigby repeating the intro she's heard a million times in the car she's 16 months today and by the sounds of this can say your name's better than mine brill thanks for the embarrassing snorts of laughter in the train silent coach pippa bloody hell she loves listening to on transport whatever the planes trains and automobiles isn't it pippa

cannot listen to this station Rob where are we? We are And what time is it? Okay this Right This is like guerrilla podcasting guys So we have been up north We've been in Barnard Castle

Hexham and North Allerton And we are now in North Allerton We've got a show at 8pm It's 7.52 And we've just remembered We haven't recorded the Friday intro so we're here now

and we're doing it and I'm ready to book we're literally going to run this until we get told to go on stage basically aren't we that's how it's going to work yeah pretty much

so what have you been up to Josh? well I've been spending the last three days with you I did get a phone call from Lou about a fun parenting story oh yeah go on when she went to pick up my youngest daughter for the last three days with you. I did get a phone call from Lou about a fun parenting story. Oh yeah, go on. When she went to pick up my youngest daughter,

both teachers came out with her. I was like, oh, what's gone on here? And they said that she's got one of her sister's shoes. She has to wear white trainers for PE. And I was like, oh, okay. I'll just show you. Well, it's slightly bigger. No, but two right ones what so Lou sent her to school in two right shoes two right shoes one bigger than the other if you'd

done that mate oh my word that is awful awful parenting no it's not it's not well no they I said well why didn't they ring home and get you to go up and swap? And she said, no, she just told the teachers, our daughter, that she liked it. So I like that. And Lou dropped some news on me. So we're doing this Wednesday. No. If Lou told me she was pregnant, I think I'd be sick of myself and leave the house. I'd come back, but I'd go away for a bit.

If Lou told you she was pregnant via text while you were in the north of england would that be better or worse god i mean i've enjoyed my time up here but i'd say barnard cast on a monday is not vegas on a saturday and i think they'd accept that too yeah they would i mean you know that's why they came towards us yeah they didn't have the option of pen and teller or adele every other month adele every other month um yeah so lou dropped on me she went um i was supposed to get my haircut on friday at 2 20 you or lou me yeah and she was like can you help me with school pickup i was like i can but surely it's fine yeah we live five minute walk from the school yeah but yeah I can change but I've got my haircut I don't have to start changing that I went why do you need help

when I can't get all the kids home I went what well there's a play date I was like oh is so there's an extra kid is there is one of them got a kid but now they've both got a friend coming I was like okay so there's four kids but no's six kids they've both got two friends coming over oh so it's they've got so that's basically a party Rob

that's a party and Lou said she can't carry all the backpacks get your bloody wheeler out that's what I said she'll need two wheelers

get the two wheelers so yeah on Friday we've got six children six children round for tea but at least

you'll look good. Yeah. I'll look great. I've moved my haircut back an hour. Have you? How long does it take to cut your quite short hair? Oh, okay.

That seems a little bit... No, I'm just thinking, when you've got short hair, is it not quicker to cut? Well, I have my beard done. Oh, you have your beard done. As well. But it probably would have been done

in about 40 minutes, but you're going to be sick then. No, my posture's really bad. Yeah, mine is a hunch as well. Podcasting in the... Sling back. But yeah, I probably wouldn't have got back in time anyway. Oh, right.

So yeah, that's my parenting story. I'm just going to check if I've got any parenting stories. I'll just take the text I've got from Rose. She made me face... Surely you could have done this before we started recording. We've got billions of fanfares coming up. I was too busy worrying about the actual show that we're doing i've just got in here rant about you les which is not really parenting is it but i just wanted to get up a chest but i'm not

going to do that okay good um no it's just do you want to say something that sounded a bit um 1970s dad by accident i dropped my doors off at school and when they go to a club after school they're supposed to bring an extra snack that isn't part of snack time so they take snacks and their lunch and then they have snacks earlier lunch and then if they stay till like four ish there's an extra snack for art club yeah but what happened so basically i was putting the extra snack in the back of the backpack not in the snack tub so yeah my youngest daughter was like i had no snack and lou was like you did have a snack but you ate it but she didn't know that that was an extra snack she assumed it was part of snack time snack so anyway i did it and put it in a bag and she liked that thing she had a snack for art

yeah which before she hadn't had a snack for art anyway lou packed the bag last monday dropped some off and then as i dropped some off my youngest went right in front of the head teacher some other mums and some other teachers around the school gates and i was doing a driving drop-off she's out the car so i'm in the car and i'm leaning out the car like ari redknapp on transfer deadline day and she goes daddy i haven't got a snack for art club i went it should be in the back of your bag and she went there wasn't one last week and then i went well i'll be having words at home but i was trying to be like all jokey but it sounded awful and then the teachers The female teachers

Looked at me with disgust Quite rightly as well But yeah I was like I'll have words at home And it's just you Attempting to clear your name now Yeah that was I didn't mean it like that

I was like We'll make sure At home That doesn't happen again Do you know if the teachers listen Some do Some don't I'm not sure

I think there's rumours Of a teaching assistant Coming to the Wembley show. Oh, do you want some news? She'll be in the front row with two right shoes on. Do you want some news on gymnastics? Uh, yeah, please. Uh, you know, I do a very casual East London gymnastics where you just kind of turn up and they kind of riff it.

And you just chat in the corner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like Simian Mobile Disco. Dear parents, hope you're well. Please, if you haven't, register your child with British Gymnastics. And so it begins. Week three and so it begins. For membership, choose bronze.

And choose active gymnastics club. For activities, choose general gymnastics. Many thanks. Is this where it all begins? How much is that? Doesn't say because I've got to go onto the website. Well, the difference is British Gymnastics will have their own medal and grading system, but the Gymnastics Club have their own as well.

So it's a two-pronged assault. Oh, my word. Oh, my God. And we've got 17 medals. Neither of them can do a roly-poly. I don't know what the medal is for. Okay. Shall we bring on sam and billy fairs or shall we wait until the is it fun if we wait until we get a call what to go on stage yeah okay um what else

is she gonna talk oh if they want to come to the live shows nottingham and wembley have got some tickets the rest are sold out yeah they're the ones well they've got singles if you want to come on your own i think you could go to the o2 but oh I want to know how I can make Roblox pedo-proof. Right, okay. Roblox the game. Yeah, my girls are on Roblox and I don't understand it. Can someone email in and tell me?

Email in how to make Roblox pedo-proof. And then I'll make it pedo-proof on their iPads or whatever. Have you not selected pedo-proof? No, I just feel like apps go, if you press this button, your kids aren't going to get nonced yeah yeah yeah and that's what i need on my devices so if anyone knows how to make that happen let me know yeah and then but you know because there is a danger of online gaming but it does keep them quiet how are you feeling about the fact we're

about to walk on stage is that i'm dangerously flatlining no but i've been in the we've done this a long time yeah once we get out out there dr theater kicks in yeah before you know it we're bang on the game yeah exactly it's been really fun shows um right i think we should get ready though because yeah we got it's one minute past eight now yeah we're actually late all right well this is sam and billy fair. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Sam and Billy Fares. I really enjoyed this interview.

This was a little bit loose neck for you. So explain who Sam and Billy Fares are for the stiffies around. They are sisters who were on Sam Fares. Oh, God. There's a knock. Hello. We ready? You can say we're ready to go, Ali, if you want.

We're ready to go. We're ready to go. Ali you want we're ready to go Ali didn't want to talk yeah they're two sisters that were famous on TOWIE and now they have their own show the mummy diaries

the baby diaries it all changed the family diaries now absolutely fascinating this I loved it Billy does it on ITVB

Sam doesn't anymore and it's quite interesting because their kids are all over the TV great chats about kids and TV and what to do with them. You're panicking now we're going on, aren't you?

Bye. Bye-bye. Sam and Billy Fares, welcome to the podcast. Hi, guys. We're very excited to have you on. I'm a big fan of your shows, actually. Oh, really? I've never known Rob buzzing for guests more than this.

Look at his little smile. He's so excited. He's a perfect, perfect guest, I think. Well, can I say that I'm really excited as well because I'm a huge fan of the podcast. Oh, thank you. I've been listening to it for a very long time, so I feel like I know everything. Oh, that's worrying. I'm in the same boat as you,

Rob. But for the listeners that don't know, can you let us know your child family set up? Sam, do you want to go first? Yes. How many you got? Ages? So I've got three kids. Paul is seven, Rosie is five, and Edward is eight months. Okay. What about you, Billie?

So I've also got three kids. So I've got Nellie, who's eight, Arthur, who's five, and Margot, who's seven weeks. Seven weeks? Blimey! Fresh. And you've just moved into a new house that's sort of finished but not finished as you can see there's a few wires hanging out the wall still there is a wire literally in shot hanging out of the wall that's been there for months well well since she's moved in

does it look like it's growing out of my head yeah they're not like they're getting longer like branches yeah no we've moved in towards the end of october and it's been a long old long old stint trying to get there but we're we're in now we've still got quite a lot to do finishing off bits but we're in yeah you're in with seven week old yes seven weeks talk me through what's the last 24 hours of your life like what's your days like at the moment well quite long had a bit of a night of her last night actually bless her she you know what she keeps doing she wakes up at about quarter five in the morning and then she's awake till half six right and then all of a sudden you've got to get up and see to the other two to get

ready for school so this morning was really like, you know, after the weekend as well, it was like quite tiring. But yeah, it's really full on. Like it's all a bit of a blur to be honest. You're still in that real newborn baby stage. It's a bit blurry, yeah. And it's hard because, you know, like even trying to get ready for this this morning,

I was panicking at one point. I'm not going to lie. I quickly messaged my manager. I was like, I'm really running late. I don't know what to do. I was stressing, at one point. I'm not going to lie. I quickly messaged my manager. I was like, I'm really running late. I don't know what to do. I was stressing, but I made it. Made it. We'll try and make it as painless as possible.

So how are you doing? Is Greg's your partner who you see on the show? Yeah. Is he off work at the moment or is he still working? Yeah, no, he's still working. So he's like back at work now into London a few days a week. But we actually, this week, we've we actually this week we start filming for a new series of the family diary so we yeah it's all we filmed a baby special as

well but um it's yeah we've had a bit of time off but it's just straight back into the swing of things I know that without asking what's in the show how like the the camera people and the the sound person, do they ever help out? Do you ever go, could you just hold this wipe? Can you just, like... Yeah, you just want them to, like, muck in. Can you just pass me a nappy?

Do you know what? It's funny you say that, because our film crew, it's only two of them, they do become part of your family, and you have to, like, obviously get on with them, because they're with you all the time. And actually, sometimes I'm still getting ready. They all like entertain or like I can hit their arse for down there with them.

Like the kids actually love when the film crew are at the door. They're like, film crew are here. Like they're really excited. It's like two other people to torment for the day. But I was thinking actually with the baby, I was thinking like she's gonna obviously like grow up knowing these two people in our house yeah all the time so they do come in handy and how how is it for nelly because um she's like the eldest out of all the kids between yours and

sam's and she's like got loads of personality and especially on the show when your other kids were a lot younger she was always talking to the crew and being silly and funny it's one thing of your parents being famous but she's always become yeah one of the characters a bit like you know in her own right how is that at school with the other kids and parents and things like that well do you know what it's funny because i feel like not until this last year i've noticed that children her age know who she is sort of thing that she's on the TV. And if we're out and about, people will be like, Nellie, like mums and dads will come to me and be like,

my daughter, can they get a photo with Nellie? And I always say to Nellie, do you want to get a photo? Because it's a really quite a strange thing, isn't it? Someone wanting a selfie of your kid. Exactly. No, you pedo. It is quite strange we do say

because we don't know what it's like I mean she manages it pretty well like I say we just keep it normal but that's all she's known yeah

I feel like out of all the kids Nellie's probably the one that's most confident in that kind of situation isn't she she's the one that can hold the conversation

she kind of really gets it yeah she does sometimes though she does get a little bit in certain situations she'll do like a little bit hiding behind me but i mean at school it's absolutely fine because i feel like only now kids of her age when they were younger they didn't take any notice no one really knew what the show was or they didn't watch it but now they're an age like eight year olds where they might tune in knew what the show was or they didn't watch it but now they're an age like eight year olds where they might tune in and watch the show so for us as parents I always just think like obviously you know the show's very natural is what it is but I think Nellie's quite aware

now like she used to have some real meltdowns on there like if you if you watched it you would have seen don't get me wrong we follow everything like, this is our new stage now. An eight year old is a very new stage. Like it's quite, quite challenging, but I just think we manage it so that it's not too much for her. Like cameras in her face. Yeah, of course.

She ever said, do you know who I am? Not yet, but I feel like you can't have any mini cheddars. Do you know who I am? How's it for you, Samantha, with Paul, your eldest? He's a little bit younger than Nellie. Does he enjoy the attention or is he a bit quieter?

So we actually haven't done the show for over a year now and that was a decision between Big Paul and I that we made. And I have to be honest, like, we are totally different kind of family dynamics and that's kind of why it works when I think we was all like it. But Big Paul just really didn't enjoy it that much. I mean, he'd done it for me and I'm obviously always really grateful, but he just could not relax when the cameras were in the house. I do think that kind of energy sort of played out a little bit on Little Paul as well,

because he used to be quite shy and never really used to be one to run to the door when the film crew were there you know rosie my youngest you know she was all for it but i struggled and as little paul's getting a bit older i was like we've got to kind of do something about this now because we're not really enjoying it as much as a family so yeah he's totally different and I think well we've had that gap now he doesn't really get it that much at all I feel like people kind of forgotten I don't know like they haven't but people were always really kind and really nice but he wouldn't get it like Nelly gets it if you know what I mean so yeah of course so are you completely done with

it now then is it just Billy you're cracking on with it but you're are you not involved at all Samantha in the baby diary, not at all. I mean, obviously I do like cameos and stuff with Billy and we do little scenes together, but I haven't done it for a long time and I've got to be honest, I don't really miss it. Like, to put it into perspective,

it's nine months of the year, four days a week, and they come on your holidays. Wow. Yeah, it's quite an intense it's intense and we done it for both paul and rosie from being pregnant with paul so it was almost six years we've done it for yeah it started just you guys and then billy and greg came in and out so that's it and now we're off and then they're carrying it on but it's been

amazing like honestly i don't have any regrets but now I'm out of it I just think wow I've got all this time and I can concentrate on other things and I mean Big Paul's a different person imagine now being thrown back into it you'd be like whoa yeah to be fair like you do have to really fully commit as a family like Greg really enjoys the filming. We laugh. He's on the phone to the producers coming up with ideas. Whereas Paul... He's probably more on the ball with it than what I am

actually. He's a family commitment almost, isn't he? You do have to all enjoy it because we've always said that as well, like Greg and I. As soon as we feel like someone's not enjoying it or it's not working anymore, then it's time to maybe do something else. But for now, obviously, we're just getting on with it. We're loving it.

Because you have to have storylines and stuff. For you, having a big house move and a new baby is quite effortless because there is always something going on. It's like you're trying to get the baby to sleep. Someone's turned up to sort the boiler. But if you are a bit more, you know, you've got your youngest is eight months and big Paul's not really enjoying it. For you, Samantha, it's a bit forced,

but if there's stuff going on and everyone's enjoying it, why not? Exactly, yeah. But that's it. There were sometimes days where, I guess what it is with Paul, it was like he'd done it for me and he enjoyed certain aspects of it. Let's say we was all doing big family events or we're all sort of there and it's natural. But when it was just us in the house and it was like, know one of the children are having a meltdown about something and they really

want that because they love to see the reality it just come over like all bad you know and then sometimes I feel like we'd finish a scene they'd go home I'd be like I feel like I'm just being speaking to a brick wall and he's like well I don't really know what to say in them situations he just felt like really under pressure and in the end i was like this is yeah i was like you know we've got to you know draw the line at some point and so then yeah well yeah he got a lot of attention and in the first one i remember about like him and his mum's relationship and stuff like that which if it's your first time reality tv if you're getting hammered by the papers it's not gonna make you feel comfortable is it you know no and that's it and he had quite a lot of like stick from the press in the early days actually it sort of got better as it went on but you know someone's like

thrown into the deep end never done tv yeah i look back now and he's like you know he's like i really helped you out there didn't i was like oh my god i feel really bad thinking about it back now but anyway did you ever used to sort of trade it off and go look we'll do another series but that means i can go vegas with the lads like swapping favors at that point he was going to vegas all the time so there we go every boxing fight that was on he was out there so yeah yeah it worked with the film crew actually once they did didn't they was it greg's the film crew went and actually secretly i was quite glad i was like yeah you're not getting away with that one going vegas about the film crew yeah has there been any points though because i think i remember uh little paul it was first at school and he was sort of obviously like any kid a bit nervous and it's a new thing is that difficult

though as a parent like it's fine if they're loving it on camera and stuff but you feel like oh no this is a big special moment for me and big paul with our son going to school for the first day and having someone there is it is it a bit like oh i wish i wasn't doing it right now good question and we actually said no to cameras we said no film crew it was like this is like actually a really big moment for us as parents and with little paul he didn't actually go to nursery or preschool so for us this was the first time yeah he started in reception like day one for us we was like in bits you can imagine and so we said we just don't want the camera there's like okay can we just rig up the cars with gopros and can you try and get anything you can on your phone i said yeah we can do that that's fine and so actually we didn't have film crew there that day

with us so it was actually quite calm and nice and i remember i remember that scene and then and they've got the gopros in the car and little paul sitting in the back and i was just crying in the front of the car and it was the sweetest moment because little paul went mummy are you crying happy tears and then i was like oh my god i cried even more so it was just and they captured it so actually there's little bits and moments where you know Billy we laugh don't we because all the kids

when they get together they watch it on YouTube Joe yeah we say it's like the best home movie ever like my two are always putting it on YouTube now

and watching it back they just find it hilarious or ITV player ITVX there you go oh yeah that's it but yeah no it is funny isn't, when they get to watch it back?

There's pros and cons, isn't there, in, like, everything? Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. Do you think in, like, 20 years they'll be so pleased that they've got that kind of thing that kind of documents that? I hope so. Yeah.

Yeah, you hope so, don't you? It'll be one way or the other, won't it? Yeah. Or will they be, like, the next generation of, like... Well, they could be the Kardashians, couldn't you? It'll be one way or the other, won't it? Yeah. Or will they be like the next generation of like... Well, they could be the Kardashians, couldn't they? Oh, no. Because that's the thing. If you're like, you know, if you're cracking on with it, Billie,

and then Nelly, she's eight now, it's only a few series till she's 13, 14 and going out or going like, you know... This is it. So then like, does that become her job? You know what I mean? Because it wouldn't quite naturally occur. Because if she's got a 16th birthday, that's a big storyline for the show isn't it like building to

that well this is it like i often wonder like i always speak to nelly nelly's into a horse finder you know like you say to your kids like what do you want to do what job she's like i want to be a horse riding instructor but then she also wants to do the youtube like she wants to start filming like stuff with horses, you know, like doing that. And I was like, that's actually really interesting because actually we're friends, our friend Chelsea, her little girl, Harlow, she does it all. Like, and it's huge.

Like she's a YouTube influencer for horse riding. And I was thinking like, actually like when she's old enough, she could do that if she wanted to. It's hard to say, no, you can't do that when she's been brought up from day one around cameras and mummy being in the spotlight and there is opportunity too because like oh okay we need a scene for the show you go well nelly wants to go horse riding this weekend yeah you take her and they film it because that's part of your job and then she goes oh mummy can i film myself on the horse and put it on youtube yeah she's making the most of those opportunities, isn't she?

That's it. Because it's there and it's a natural fit, but it's like you don't really want an influencer for the influencer's sake, but if she's got a passion that is horses that's feeding into it. To be natural. Yeah. I just think all the time, every stage, it's like assessing the situation and then taking it as it comes up.

Even with the kids with the filming because like you say nelly's getting a little bit older now she's so aware of the cameras and yeah of course filming and it's like how long is she gonna even want to do she might wake up one morning and say if she said i'm out if tomorrow morning she said i'm done or if she negotiates a fee unless because it won't be long until she does that does she you know it's so true and i haven't actually had a situation before where she said to me i'm not filming for your show right and i've said don't i'm like please don't like you don't have to like and that is the thing because kids are clever right and they're crafty and they and she knows like it's never a thing where she's forced to film you know yes of course she doesn't

want to do it don't do it it's fine like it's definitely you and greg for people who've not watched it it's more on you and greg and how you're dealing with the kids yes and they'll sort of float in and out and she'll you'll be chatting and she'll turn up and go mummy and like it's very much on her terms completely and that's the thing. But sometimes I have had the odds, like, oh, I'm not filming for your show. I'm not doing it. I'm like, okay, don't. But what's really interesting is if the kids aren't involved in like, say me and Greg are filming something in the kitchen

and they're just floating around after school, they want to be involved. It's like reverse psychology. Do you know what I mean? It's really mad. And all of a sudden they're downstairs doing something like cute and funny and then the film crew will capture it and it's like yeah it's funny how it works like the dynamics of film it's just different all the time every day is different yeah now now questions are both of you when are they going to be allowed a phone and instagram tiktok because

my seven-year-old's on me for a phone already really yeah i've said age 10 for a phone when she goes to secondary school or year seven i think it's at 10 or 11 10 or 11 are you 11 yeah i haven't really thought about it what is the going age my kids obviously watch a bit of youtube but like rosie when she's with nelly they do a little bit of dancing don't be on tiktok but i won't let rosie have that and I'm really quite conscious with the whole situation, really. Like, my son, Paul, for example, he's quite sensible and I just feel like I can trust him with a phone. But Rosie's just so different.

I'd have to literally monitor, you know, the whole time. Yeah. Well, is there, like, a way, when you give them the phone, is that it? They've got the full phone or is there a way of? I don't know. I think they could have a phone, but I definitely wouldn't let Nellie have Instagram.

Give them a Nokia 33. There you go, Nokia. Yeah. Snake. That would be the best option, I think. Well, that's the thing. So our friends, they're eight-year-old. I think, yeah, for her eighth birthday, got her like an iPod Touch. Yes.od touch yes oh that's what i got nelly yeah so that it's not a phone you can't really message

i message i message but you can't make phone calls but it's sort of like well actually really the phone call is not the bit you need to worry about is it is the app true no it's it's the same as an yeah so can nelly message you on iMessage then with her phone touched, whatever it is? Well, yeah, she was, and then she bloody lost it, and you can't get hold of them anymore, can you? Because I think they discontinued. No, because I think they just want you to buy the phone, don't they?

That's what they want. Of course they do, yeah. But no, yeah, she was. She used to take it to the stables with her, but then we had this problem because there was no Wi-Fi, so she used to have to use someone's hot spot should i message me and like oh i would like facetime or whatever because she goes to the stables like all day but again it's so true that what you're saying it's not really the phone calls that you're worried it is the social media side so it's

whenever they've got older friends is the problem basically so we went and stayed at our friends we've got like the eight she nearly nine now and they're all playing roblox and my kids haven't played roblox then they downloaded it onto their ipad it's something like grand theft auto for kids you're just like running around this sort of blocky world but you can message your friends on roblox but i didn't know this so they're on their ipad just thinking they're playing a game but they're all on essentially a social media network messaging each other oh my god i've read stuff about that roblox actually so yeah maybe just be it's a bit dodgy yeah it's a bit dodgy yeah you've got to be on top of that oh don't it's like my son he's it's so confusing it's so confusing like little paul he's got his nintendo

switch and he plays like mario and that's fine but then when he I draw the line at the Minecraft he's been playing this Minecraft I just don't get it he's building a house and it's all very like fine like I'm obviously monitoring it but I just don't get it he said to me yesterday he was like oh can I play double player with his friend at home and I just said no because I was like then that's opening it up online I just don't get it I'm like I don't understand yeah maybe I should do some more looking into it but I just have to say no how is having an eight-month-old which we were very impressed with at the start until a seven week old turned up but actually yeah he's gorgeous and we all adore him but he definitely was my toughest baby and I don't

know if it's because you kind of have your seven-year-old and your five-year-old you have a gap and you're thrown back into the deep end because I kind of did I forget or is he harder than the others like I still don't know because you know and he's actually eight months but he's trying to walk now this never happened yeah honestly, for example, my other two didn't walk. They were, like, probably over one or one and 15 months. And my mother-in-law said that Big Paul walked at nine months. And I found that really hard to believe. I was like, really?

Really? But now? My two walked at nine months and it's insane. That's it. They look so weird. Well, I bet. It's so funny. Yeah, I bet that was mad.

I didn't realise it was weird at the time because it was my kids. But I was like walking through the shopping centre with her and people were stopping and going, what's going on? I bet. Because she was so diddy. They were quite small when they were little. So this is you. And you were going, yes, it is me from 8 Out Of 10 Cats.

Thank you very much. Oh, no. Sorry, the tiny walking child. So yeah, that's exactly it. And he's been crawling for a while now. And now he can stand on his own. Obviously, the tiny walking child. So, yeah, that's exactly it. And he's been crawling for a while now, and now he can stand on his own. Obviously, he just falls down, but he's everywhere.

He's a real danger mouse. We haven't child-proofed the house or anything yet. I actually bought a pen yesterday. Mum made me buy this pen, Billy, on Amazon. I used to have a pen for Nelly. Yeah, we had a little UFC pen. They just sort of barrel around in. Because I actually, I can't sit down for a second. And between Paul and I, we juggle it with like work and the baby

and the kids and the school drops and stuff. But it's just like, he's so full on. And I don't know if I remember the other two being like that. And as soon as we get outside, he loves it. So I think he's going to be an outdoors boy. But it's just so cold. And I don't know, at the moment, it's just, you know, we're indoors a lot, but it's tough. I'm not going to say it's just so cold and I don't know at the moment it's just you know we're indoors a

lot but um it's tough I'm not gonna say it's been easy it's three hugely different to two I think so I think so too yeah I just the first sort of like such a big yes I've never heard such a big yes you've run out of hands but we yeah that's it we're outnumbered and i co-slept and exclusively breastfed edward so paul didn't have to do one night feed he didn't get disturbed once for like for a long time but i just would wake up in the morning and try and sort of get myself together to get the other two ready for school paul do school but i just felt like a zombie for weeks i felt like i was never getting out of it. But we're sort of getting there now. But I think it's really tough having Brie.

I'm not going to lie. Yeah. Also, you've got the middle child situation. So you've got Rosie, you've already said is full on. And little Paul's a bit more, well, he's going to start being big Paul soon, isn't he? When he gets to be really big and a big Paul. Yeah, he will be.

So it's like you've got the middle child. Because I've got four brothers. There's five of us. And've got the middle child because i'm i've got four brothers there's five of us and i'm the middle one and you do fight for attention because there are more of them that want attention you know especially if you're co-sleeping and then yeah because i don't know like i think the last times i watched the show little paul was in bed with you guys a lot i don't know when that changed or whatever but you know oh no no no me and paul haven't shared a bed for six years we're still in rooms yes whoa talk us through the bedtime then who's where right so i'm in the spare room with edward right in a double bed yeah but who i've recently got into the cot but he's still in the room with just me yeah and then big paul's in our big bed with rosie and paul before edward

come along it was just like two and two like one adult and we've never kind of gotten out of it and we always moan about it because Paul's like always hanging off the end they're all stuck to each other and like but we've never done anything about it so it's our own fault really and it's just like but then you had the baby so it carried on so is that the plan so he's in bed with two kids each night? Every night. Oh, my God, that must be tough. So, Sam, how have you managed to have three children if you're that far apart? Well, you have to be, like, inventive, I guess.

I don't know. Inventive. Go to the kitchen, fair enough. Yeah, yeah, that's it. But, no, it kind of works, but it is getting a bit much now they're getting older and bigger now as well because he's you know it's yeah so have you got a plan an extraction plan essentially because i feel like edward if edward's in a cot already you could almost let him have that room and you slide out and it's just really about getting rosie and little paul into their rooms that is the plan

we're like actually done quite well edward we'd never done this with the other two early on. So we was like, actually, if we keep in this routine in his car, all we need to do now is get the other two out. They sleep well together. Maybe what the plan should be is put them two in a room together. Yeah.

But you know what? I think about it and I think I'm not sure. Like, because obviously I love Paul and I'm actually quite an affectionate person but he's a bit of a night owl so I go to bed earlier and when he does come in it's like I don't know football highlights or something it's a big bright and I don't like sleeping the telly on oh so he watches the telly in bed yes and I'm more like the kids don't care no sorry he doesn't watch it with the kids if it was me and him he watches it but if it was me and I see, I see, yeah. But if it was me and him in bed, he would just, like, you know,

put the telly on and he'll sleep. I don't know, I'm just so used to sleeping with, like, a... He'll fall asleep with the telly on. Yes. And leave it on all night. But you do that, Rob. No, no, no, I've got a telly on, we don't really use it, but we'll watch a show.

Oh, no, you do it on the sofa. Yeah, I fall asleep on the sofa with the telly on. So that's what Paul does. So he does that now, because obviously he doesn't do it with the kids in the bed. But if it was me and him, he'd put the telly on and then leave it on and fall asleep on the sofa with the telly on. So that's what Paul does. So he does that now because obviously he doesn't do it with the kids in the bed. But if it was me and him, he'd put the telly on and then leave it on and fall asleep. And I just, I don't know. I'm so used to sleeping with like a nice little child that I don't know.

I'm just used to it. Your big smelly bloke watching the football. Yeah. What is your sleeping situation, Billy? Is it exactly the same? It was for many years. We do tend to have musical beds sometimes in our house now. And actually, Nellie was the child that never slept

until she was about four, literally until she went to school. Oh, wow. Oh, man. Yeah, four long years of that. And what do you mean by, like, how bad a sleeper was she? Oh, she was bad. This is how bad it was. You weren? Oh, she was... She was bad. This is how bad it was. She wasn't even there.

Yeah, I was there a lot. That's why she's moved to Surrey. Yeah. Get away. So, you know, like, on... You know, like, a stair gate. So I even had a stair gate put on Nellie's bedroom, right? She would get...

You know, like, the sleeping row bags that babies sleep in. So they can sleep in them till they're like two, can't they? And they're like these big giant. Anyway, Nellie used to have one of them. She used to wear one of them to bed. She used to get over her cot in the grow bag. She used to worm out the door and then get out of the sleep bag. She used to get over the stair gate and then come into our room.

Like we tried to, like, and she'd still, yeah, she'd still get in. Like Jurassic Park, you can't contain them. They will escape. Literally, she was relentless. But then finally, when she went to school, she got really tired and she started sleeping a lot better. But in our house at the moment, so I've done a bit of a Samantha, actually, I said it to you the other day, I'm turning into you.

I've actually gone into our spare room with Margot because she's sleeping in the bed with me and Greg doesn't do any of the night feeds. He hasn't done any. So I've been like... Ever? When the other two were younger, yeah. When they were babies, he used to help out.

But for some reason... Is Margot breastfed or is she on a bottle? No, she's bottle fed. So he could... So he's got no excuse? I know. He has no excuse. And I don't know why.

Zero excuse. Paul's got an excuse. I know. He has no excuse. And I don't know why. Zero excuse. Paul's got an excuse. Exactly. Yeah. But it's really funny because Greg was trying to be very encouraging that I just exclusively breastfeed with Margot. And I was thinking, yeah, I know your game. You don't want to do it.

But actually, like, he's done, like, one of the later ones, like the 11 o'clock feed. But he hasn't done the middle of the night. I've just, I don't know why, I've just sort of got on with it. I've gone in the spare room with Margot. I think you should bring it up on your next episode. Yeah, I do. I'm going to give Greg some credit because I was with Billy the other day

and Billy was like, you know, I just want her to myself at this stage. I don't even want Greg to feed her. It's just me and her in the room. So I think even if Greg asked, you were saying how much you're enjoying, you know. Yeah know yeah no that is true but you know what I do think I'm going to start trying to get her in a little you know like the next to me

I'm going to start encouraging that because good luck I mean it's lovely having them in the bed but you really don't sleep I don't think I go into a full deep sleep no because I know she's in the bedroom mate so I'm like yeah and like sometimes I do that thing in the night me so i'm like yeah and like sometimes i do that thing in the night where i go yeah you're right like you know like yeah that's horrible

i do that quite a lot so there is a plan there is a plan in place and so where are the other two kids are they with greg or are they in their own beds no they do sleep in their own beds after sometimes he wakes up and he'll like sneak into the bed with Greg. But he might do that at, like, five in the morning and then go back to sleep. Yeah. Yeah, it's actually not too bad with the other two, but it took a long time to get there. How are they moving to a new place? Were they excited or were they, like, sad to go?

No, they was really excited, actually. My mum actually lives in our old house. Oh, okay. It's so lovely because we go back there and, like, obviously they still go there and it's like now we're going to nanny susie's but yeah they settled in pretty well to be honest and actually they sleep better in this house than what they did in our old house which is quite bizarre maybe they just settled i don't know so when did you actually move in and how pregnant

were you or did you have a newborn so we moved in mid-october, so I was seven and a half months pregnant. Yeah. And do you know what? The move was really tough. It was really hard, actually, like being heavily pregnant. I was exhausted. Like, I've never really done a big house move, so I never knew what people meant when they said, like, how exhausted it is.

I mean, Manf, you've done quite a lot. Six, I think. Six? Yeah. I promise you I've done six. And we we moved similar to billy we moved into this house when i was eight months pregnant right so when i actually had edward i had a home birth he was all in the kitchen wasn't me i still got boxes that like were unopened yeah whilst giving birth in the kitchen it was just chaos but you just do it i don't know you have to don't you just get through it

and then you just... Got no choice. No choice. As long as you get one bed sorted. That's it. And then you can get out of sleep. That's it. I was just happy to be in.

My goal was that I've got to be in before the baby comes. Yeah, yeah. Because like now, well, you're exhausted for a long time. You've done really well though. I think that room you're in is probably the one that's not finished.

But everywhere else looks lovely. You've done so well. Yeah, it's getting there. That's always good to have the camera on in the one room that doesn't look like it's done. That's the best decision. Let's talk about your podcast, because you've got a podcast, The Sam and Billy Show.

Yeah. So is this where you do it from? All the time. What's the kind of family situation with doing the podcast? So we try and do it once a week, don't we? Well, we do do it once a week rather, but when it's like kids' holidays and stuff, like you're saying, there's always someone peeping in

or, you know, when I had Edward in the early days, there was a couple of times where we had to cut, let's say Paul wasn't around and I didn't have, it's quite hard not having family when you live a bit further out because, you know, you can't just call someone quickly to come and help. Yeah. And you have to time holidays because that's what me and Josh get in trouble with sometimes.

If he's away and I'm not or vice versa, one of you's on the beach, you're like, can you still do Tuesday at 10 o'clock? He's like, oh, God. Yeah, we've done that. We've done that, haven't we? Yeah. Well, we've recorded when we've been away. That was funny, actually.

We recorded when you was on holiday and I was at home and that guy was telling you to be quiet do you remember yeah he was like i'm recording a podcast you'd be quiet he walked in the area of the hotel like there was like so many areas he could have sat and he sat the one place i was sat and then he was dead keep it down and i was like i was in the lobby i've gone gone and sat in a corner of the lobby, you know, like really far, and it was like round the corner, really far away from anyone. He's decided to put up next to me

and then started telling me to be quiet. How rude. Was it Greg? Yeah. No, yeah. Do you have the same thing that me and Rob do, that you feel like you can't update the other one on your life because you're not on mic,

because you're like, I've got to save this for the podcast? Oh, yeah, it's so true. And we find things like this quite hard because obviously where we're sisters as well, Update the other one on your life because you're not on mic because you're like, I've got to save this for the podcast. Oh, yeah. It's so true. And we find things like this quite hard because obviously where we're sisters is where we speak every day, whether it's about the kids or, you know, what's coming up and stuff. So we do try. Like something happened to you at the weekend when you were shopping.

I went, don't tell me. Save it for the podcast, didn't I? Because we do. We speak so much and we want to keep it natural but it does happen it's like with mum mum stepped in for Billy actually when she was on maternity leave and mum would ring me right before we started recording and just like talk to me about all this stuff I say mum mum mum I'm gonna speak to you in a minute on the podcast just save it oh I'm sorry I'm sorry darling and how's it been though because you've moved from Essex

does your mum still live in Essex? Oh yeah, near Billy and Billy's old house Yeah, she's really near me So she's really close for you Billy, so Sam she's about an hour and a half away now Is she two hours or? It varies So if there's no traffic on the M25 It's one hour

Yeah, if there's no traffic on the M25, if you go at 2am That's a good day, yeah It is so bad honestly And then I get it Yeah, if there's no traffic on the M2. If you go at 2am. That's a good day. Yeah. It is so bad, honestly. And then I get it. And the bridge. No, but mum's now got this fear of the bridge. And it's like, come on.

So she has to go the other way around. Oh, God. Because she's scared of the bridge. Because she's scared of the bridge, right? So it's fine. Like, maybe it's because she didn't change. Like, me and Billy understand. I didn't know the menopause made you scared of fucking bridges afraid of bridges that's one of the main symptoms so i mean it's always like especially when i had the baby she was like you know if you was closer

i'm like yeah well i'm not am i it's been like four years now whatever it is no but it's fine no traffic is an hour traffic can be three hours what's she like with tunnels because she could go back that way because it's just a tunnel across. She does. Isn't it? Yeah, she does go back through the tunnel, I think. She goes back through the tunnel. Yeah, she goes back through the tunnel

but won't do the break. Oh, and she won't drive at night. So she stayed, actually, the other day. She was like, I'm leaving at four. And at half three, I went, Mum, I don't think you actually get started until, I don't know, one hour. She was out the door at half three

because she was petrified that it was going to be dark. It's funny because when she dropped off the van, she said to me, I got off the motorway just in time before it got dark. Oh, she's such a nice little mom. So does it get comparative, though, between you two and babysitting?

Because obviously it's so much easier for your mum to pop round and have the kids for the afternoon where for you. So obviously, Billy, you'll probably be getting more help with the kids for the afternoon where for you so obviously Billy you'll probably be getting more help with the kids but and then because you've moved though Sam but do you ever negotiate with your mum and go well you have been around Billy's three times this week there was a bit of a situation actually this this weekend it was funny because I went to mum oh mum I've got a date for you I was going to ask you if you look after the kids it's your

friend's birthday we're going for dinner she went well you have to let me know because you know i've got quite a few dates booked in with samantha now and i thought oh yes samantha's got in there hasn't she given her all her dates because now i've got edward into the car i'm like i can actually go out past seven o'clock and be home before one when he wakes up we can go on date nights we can do things anyway so this friday is the date day because we're going out in the daytime but yeah this was the one that mum was like sorry billy but it is obviously always billy because she's so close yeah with me it's a journey she doesn't like traveling on the motorway all that comes with it does it like at night tunnels okay not bridges yeah so billy does get mum a lot more than me so yeah i went to australia for a month and I took my mum and dad out because

they've got family out there as like a Christmas present kind of thing because I was away and then Lou was on her own. I was like, well, you know, my mum and dad can babysit. She went, no,

they can't. You're taking them. Oh no. I'm taking them. Oh dear. Do you want to do the final question? I think that with the final question, Josh? Yeah. I think with the final question,

it's quite complicated doing the final question to two people, isn't it, Rob? Well, the final question always is the same, and Rob's going to do it. Okay. So this is to you, Sam, and Billy, for Greg and Big Paul. What is the one thing they do parenting-wise where you're like, that is so annoying, I hate it when you do that? Refuse to have cameras that

kind of thing you just does your head in the way they parent and then what's the one thing they do where you go oh they're amazing i'm so happy this is the person i had kids with okay where do we begin start with the positive because we're really interested in the negative that's the one we're here for that's the best bit yeah the negative okay so i guess go on you go no no go on you're struggling for positives right okay so i think my positive is that paul is actually really hands-on so like he just is great with the kids he does the school run every single morning which for me is like you know blessing, blessing. I love that. I guess that's my real positive. He does a school run every morning. He does a school run. Sorry.

That's it. He could be replaced by an Addison Lee tomorrow. He's just like, no, he's just like, as well, he's like really. Involved. Involved, yeah. And we juggle life together and he's great. Like he spends a lot of time with the kids and we've never kind of brought in extra help purely because paul obviously wants to be around as much as he can so yeah that's

probably mine can i have a quick question about the names though because obviously you've got little paul named after big paul but then you've got edward edward is big paul's middle name right okay well done tell you what big paul thinks a lot of his own names, doesn't he? But I was going to say that because that's the thing. Because if he's gone Paul, Paul, as Edward, you're going, hang on, how comes he? I know he was first. Was Paul II ever an option? Yeah.

So Paul III. So you've got Paul, Paul, and then Paul II or Paul III. Big Paul and Little Paul were saying, let's just call him Paul to keep it easy. How about that? Keep it Paul to keep it easy. I was like, easy. Keep it easy. So what do you, do you have to say big Paul and little Paul every time in the house or is there a shorthand? Well, it depends what you're asking, isn't it? Yeah, that's it. Might have to wipe my bum.

Who's that? Big Paul and little Paul. Actually, it's funny you say that because big Paul said to me yesterday about the wiping the bum thing. We was like, when does it stop? And we discussed that, didn't we? Yeah. I don't know if I pamper my kids too much.

Anyway, let's turn off subject. Are you still wiping bums of the eldest? Yes. Is that not right? No, I'm not wiping Nellie's bum. When does it stop? No, remember when Greg had to wipe Paul's bum? Little Paul's bum.

But am I pampering him too much? I don't know. When does it stop? Well, so my five-year-old, she's just started nursery, not school, sorry, in September, and I was still wiping her bum, but more recently this term, it's stopped now. By about four or five when they start school, I think, because they have to do it themselves at school.

Right, I've got to stop it then. Of course they do. I hadn't even thought about it at school. What do they do? No, but he doesn't poo at school because I ask him that got to stop it then. Of course they do. I hadn't even thought about it at school. What do they do? No, but he doesn't poo at school because I ask him that. And he waits till he gets home. So you can wipe his bum.

I've got to stop that. Oh gosh. Are you still wiping your eldest bum, Josh? I am, yeah. I hadn't even thought about it till now. Yeah, it's because we're all in the habit. That's the problem. But I'm trying to wean my five-year-old off it. To be honest, Rob, it's one of my favourite bits of parenting. Is it? Okay. I'll is it okay it's just nice to do a job properly isn't it you know you realize it's much easier from that angle it is yeah it is so paul we've done his positive

what's the negative with paul i've forgotten that we're on the final question then we've really gone back i know i don't know if this counts, but, like, he's super into sports and all sports, actually, mainly football. It kind of consumes the house, and I've got to be honest. Like, every telly, and it actually made me laugh this morning. I could see the little yellow box with the transfer window thing in. I was like, oh, God, I've got eight days of this, however long it is till it's on.

But it consumes the house, and I can't watch anything. The kids can't watch anything. It's just, you know, yesterday he was at the football, so it was fine. Who does he support? Arsenal. So he's really happy. They're doing well at the moment as well, yeah.

It's very consuming. And then if his phone is landscape, I know that he's on that football manager game. I don't know what actually it's called. Oh, football phone yeah that game takes over your life yeah right so the sport side of things can be very consuming and i have to kind of like sometimes say no come on let's stop there he got home last night from the game sort of walked in it made me jump because i was asleep and then he was like buzzing because obviously arsenal had won and he was just excited and he went,

well, I'm going to go downstairs and put the football highlights on. But it was really late. I'm just like, when does it stop? You've just seen it live. Super fan. Anyway, that's mine. Yeah, I think it's only going to get worse

if Arsenal were good because he wants to watch them being good. The good news is it probably won't last. What about you, Billy? What's the negative of Greg and the positive? In whatever order you want. Okay, so negative, I'm going to say Greg is a nightmare on his phone. Like, he's constantly, like, talking on the phone.

Oh, like, actually talking, not playing games. Always speaking. No, no, yeah, like, on the phone. Like, talking on the phone. Have you thought about getting him an iPod Touch? Yeah. That's a really good idea for the weekend and sometimes it's at the point where if i'm in the same house as him i'll call him i'm like oh i can actually have a conversation with you now because you picked your phone up you're listening to me and then he's like a pacer on the phone so

obviously like now because we've got margo and he done this with all three of them he will just walk around like the baby will be like up here like her little heads are all bubbling around and he's on the phone in that hand the baby's here and he's just talking on the phone like constantly like and then like margot's just there like her little heads like bubbling around everywhere like doing circles doing circles in the kitchen that is something that really aggravates me yeah have you given greg one of your radiation stickers that i made you buy i've put one on his phone good is it work calls or is he just chatting to mates well it could be anything it could be work yeah yeah it could be anything he loves it he just loves it and he loves

to you know like sometimes even like on a sunday morning you wouldn't always necessarily bring your best mate up for a chat but he's on the phone yeah no he wants to know like what his friends done last night where they've been it's quite old school if my friend phoned me to ask me what i'd done last night i would find that weird yeah yeah no and how do you have the energy? Well, we don't even speak on the phone like that, do we? No, it's voice notes. Voice notes.

We send each other voice notes and then reply when you get a chance to reply. Oh, Greg loves a phone call. And like sometimes, you know, you think like a text would settle that. Yeah. And is he holding the phone or has he got AirPods in? Holding the phone. Holding it. Yeah.

So old school, isn't it? It must hurt Do you know what I'm with him on a text With all that I'll text the person You're like But you go

If I ring them I know straight away That they've got it You can text someone It could take an hour Yeah I prefer ringing But I'm not

I'm not on the phone that much But if I am I've got my headphones in Chatting And I can do stuff I'm unloading the dishwasher Sometimes I'm having Like radio interviews

And I'm unloading the dishwasher And they can hear having like radio interviews and I'm unloading the dishwasher and they can hear something. I'm like, yeah, I'm doing two things here. I'm talking to you, I'm busy. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't realise it was like a subconscious power play, isn't it?

To like unload the dishwasher while talking to someone. How about radio Oxford? I'm unloading the dishwasher. And then what about the positive for Greg? It's really funny. You know, someone said about the school run with cole that's why we're so grateful i'm really grateful greg does the morning drop off as well which is like really helpful but other than the school drop off

greg's very like he could be like a really fun dad like and get up and go like nothing you know like as a mom like you sort of fuss a bit more before you leave the house that you're getting this ready getting it greg will just be like, come on, let's go. And he'll just, he's confident to take the kids out for the day and do stuff with them. And I mean, obviously now with Margot, he's different with Nelly and Arthur. He'll like take them to like the caravan for the weekend.

You know, like he's quite get up and go with them. And he'll lead it. He won't be like waiting for you to pack a bag and go, right, off we go kids and just take them out. Yeah, exactly. Like he's quite good like that. And it wouldn't bother him if he had like a few kids you know if he had a play date and i wasn't around to help like he'd just still do the play date wouldn't bother him he's on the phone don't give a shit he's pacing up and down yeah get him through his

9 000 minutes a month but that's actually that's actually, that's all right, exactly what you said. Yeah, just be on the phone and let them do what they want. Oh, brilliant. Oh, this has been absolutely amazing. Thanks so much for doing it. Yeah, I loved it. Thanks so much for talking to us. Thanks, guys.

Thank you. And your podcast, where can we download that? The Sam and Billy Show. So, yeah, anywhere. And on YouTube, but anywhere you get your podcast. Brilliant. And when's the Mummy Diaries back? What are they called now?

Because is it changed again? It And when's the Mummy Diaries back? What are they called now? Has it changed again? It's changed to the Family Diaries now because it was Mummy Diaries when it was me and Mam. Now it's changed to the Family Diaries. So that starts Sunday the 5th of Feb is the baby special at 7.30 on ITVB. And then we're back again in the new year every Wednesday at 9. Yeah, and I want a light on that wire that

you've got hanging yes are you sure in the wire brilliant thanks so much cheers guys bye-bye billy and sam fairs i enjoyed that josh i I enjoyed that, Josh. I really enjoyed that. I thought absolutely fascinating. Felt like a taste from my world. Taste of your world. Yeah. I imagine you felt like I felt when we interviewed Philippa Perry. Exactly.

Who is this and why are we talking to them? At least with Philippa Perry, you weren't worried about mixing their names up for 90 minutes. Yeah, fair enough. 90 minutes. It was 50 minutes. We have no idea where they did it down from 90 minutes. 90?

Where did that come from? Because there was so much football chat. I really enjoyed that. I think sometimes the sort of reality stars from TOW and all that, or wherever it is, they get a little bit of a bad rep because of the way they're edited on shows. And essentially they're working class people that have found an outlet and they just sort of get sometimes a bit of a harsh,

what is their actual sort of you know thing they do but i think they're both two quite switched on people that yeah really love their kids and i find it quite refreshing to have that insight into their life and they're quite level-headed about the potential pressures on their kids from the tv show but like sam's done she's gone actually it's not working for us we're gonna stop now yeah it's easy to judge when you're not there but if everyone's happy and enjoying it and you know like she was saying nelly loves the camera and so does greg then why not you know do it if you're enjoying it and got these amazing things rob rob what don't do that to me don't do that to me i need this need what don't stop don't make this josh will it come to what i feel like i'm letting too too much into the family i need this you do

actually yeah because you've got you've got a lot going on at the moment. Don't stop, Rob. I did stop. Is that why you keep asking about the cost of hotels for the tour? Are you skinned? Have you got some

secret advice? Yeah. He keeps buying old Blur guitars. It's old football sticker albums. I've gone too deep. Just spend £900

on an Argyle Away shirt. Right. We'll be back on Tuesday if Rob's still with us. Do you know what would be quite a funny like sitcom would be like two super famous rich people that are obsessed with something

like Plymouth shirts and they keep bidding for them on eBay but they're going for an exorbitant amount of money because they're both like They're bidding against each other. And they hate each other. Oh, that'd be great. But no, I'm not going to stop doing this, Josh.

I enjoy it. I do too. I'm looking forward to seeing the mummy diary. The family diaries now. We'll be back on Tuesday. Bye. We'll see you then. Goodbye.