Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S7 EP26: James and Clair Buckley

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

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Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parents in Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping or hopefully how they're not coping and we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips advice and of course tales of parenting woe because let's be honest there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing hello you're listening to parenting hell with quill can you say josh Widdicombe? Josh Widdicombe. And can you say Rob Beckett?

Rob Beckett. Good job. Lottie, can you say Josh Widdicombe? I can't. You can't. And can you say Rob Beckett? No. No.

Okay, fair enough. There you go. Nice. Who is that, Josh? This is Quill, who's four years. Quill. That's a good name, isn't it? Quill.

Is that short for something? Oh, we'll come to this. Hello, you sexy and relatable gents. This is Quill, my four-year-old on Lottie 3. I had Quill in 2019 and naively fell pregnant four months later. Oh, you... With Lottie. Four months. You filthy pair.

Yeah, I can tell you, I wasn't that naive. There was none of that naivety with me. Respect, respect the hustle. Straight back in the sack, pumping away for the next one. Yeah, well, that's too graphic. So when lockdown hit, I had a seven-month-old and was pregnant with a sassy troublemaker. Safe to say your podcast was and still is a safe haven for me.

Thank you for your realistic episodes, especially the breakdown in the kitchen. Never felt so seen. P.S. For your realistic episodes, especially the breakdown in the kitchen. Never felt so seen. P.S. For your speculations, Quill was named after the Marvel character Peter Quill. Peter Quill? Who's Peter Quill? I'm not into Marvel. No, I don't

watch Marvel. What is Peter Quill's power? He's got star power. I like it. This guy's got an X Factor. Yeah, it says in brackets he's a Star Lord. So there we go. Thank you very much. We should... Well, we don't need to, but we might as well draw attention to the fact our set-up for this is an absolute fucking disaster.

I feel like we haven't covered Quill enough yet, personally. Okay, go on. Go back to Quill. Is your first question, what's wrong with Peter? Yeah. Well, yeah. If you like, Peter, what's their surname? Did we get a surname?

No. Oh, she has added... did forgot to say we're from oh no that's from gaulison on sea in norfolk no it's in her email address but when she hasn't put it in the body of the email i don't want to oh yes it's quite a normal surname i'd say right so it's not putting too much pressure on the quill part but if you love peter quill i don't know peter quill's a big i think if you called him like spider he was called guardian of the galaxy yeah spider or ants boy is spider-man i think i'm gonna be done here is spider-man part of the marvel universe or yes yes he is so d you know what i don't care dc is superman and batman and a few others and then Marvel is Spider-Man Iron Man Scarlett Johansson the Hulk yeah Scarlett Johansson man Black Widow the Black Widow okay

well it's all a load of crap if you ask me here we go I struggled with Marvel it got too complicated for me which is something you shouldn't really say about Marvel. There's about six of them a year anyway. Peter Quill. Well done. Star-Lord. Oh, he's the handsome one. That's Chris Pratt. Right, well, there we go.

Peter Quill. So he's like the main guy. God, I'm jealous of you having the internet, Rob. I can't search this stuff because this is being recorded without the internet. Yeah, we've got, I'd say, the most lo-fi setup we've ever had. You've actually got no internet at the moment.

The internet's gone down for some reason. So what we're doing is We've got, I'd say, the most lo-fi setup we've ever had. You've actually got no internet at the moment. The internet's gone down for some reason. So what we're doing is we're locally recording on our microphones on our laptops, but I'm speaking to you through a three-way WhatsApp phone call. Yeah, what a world. I'm actually going to text my neighbour and ask if her internet's gone down. Pop round for a cup of gigabytes. Could you lend me a cup of gigabytes please is your internet

down she already took him on a keyboard this morning it was delivered for my daughter oh yes birthday keyboard well time wise yeah god everything is all over the place the buck please i'm excited about rob we've already recorded it yes they were great value weren't they i really enjoyed that i actually i'm a fan of their YouTube and stuff. They were, I'm going to say, I came into it not knowing much about the Barclays. They were great value. Great value. And I'd say very, very normal.

I felt that their chat, they're sort of a couples podcast, which are really popular because it's interesting, isn't it? Hearing about other couples. You have Chris and Rosie Ramsey, Hannah and Joel Cooper-Domit. Peter Crouch. Peter Crouch and Abby. We should do a couple of spin Ramsey, Hannah and Joel Cooper-Domit. Peter Crouch. Peter Crouch and Abby. We should do a couple of spin-offs, you and Rose and me and Lou.

No, thanks. What do you reckon? No. I don't think I've got enough time. Because when I watched it, I enjoyed seeing the Buckleys argue, which you'll get to hear in a minute. However, what I enjoyed about it was it felt real.

It felt earthy. And it felt like the argument was continuing after the record i don't think that's healthy for a relationship do you no i don't need a new reason to argue that's my view like i don't need a new arena for it to spread from can i ask you a question this was the area where i i was really like i want to ask about this i was fascinated by him doing all those cameos yes i mean because he's the cameo king on the website he's had nearly 8 000 reviews never mind booking he's the most popular cameo giver there is i think

would you do it rob that's my question to you would you do cameo yeah i'll do anything if i needed the money i think you could clean up on cameo rob yeah yeah what would i have to do bucket a hat on yeah that's it you're you're basically setting up a bin behind your house that looks like the bin and then you're putting the bucket hat on because he's good because he gets to he talks about but what he gets to do on these cameos is play the character of jay who is absurd and fun to play, where you can go, all right, mate, where's the clout? And you're disgusted and it's mad and it's a fun experience. What I would do on cameo is transport myself back to what was, let's face it, a viral social media hit,

but probably one of the most awful moments of my life from a sort of drink and health point of view it's probably the heaviest I've been the most drunk I've ever been and I'm lying on the floor by a bin pretending to give advice drunk with chicken so in order for me to give an authentic cameo I would need to twice a day drink 12 pints of lager and eat chicken yeah I just don't think it's a good idea because I'm a method guy where james can slip into jay and he can go upstairs do that but it would involve me becoming a fully fledged alcoholic with yeah chicken based eating disorder which i don't think is what i need currently however if their money's right but they're brilliant and really funny and they've got two kids that are

a bit more grown up they're sort of for us they us, they had kids quite young, which is quite interesting. They were like 22. They're younger than us and their kids are much older now. So it's interesting to hear that point of view. But yeah, they're really funny, really good. And it's a great episode. So enjoy it, Josh. Do you want to add anything to the Big Buckley Big Up?

You've just got to watch the Inbetweeners. It's really good, guys. Yeah, it is. I actually think it's underrated, even though people go mad for it. I got it on DVD and watched it all in one night, and I was like, this is going to change my life. It didn't.

It was just a great night. Really funny stuff. All right, here are the Buckleys. Enjoy. Right, Josh, do you want to do the intro? Hello. James and Claire Buckley, that's the intro. Rob always says, do you want to do the intro?

Not a lot to say, is there? There isn't. Well, we don't want you to sit there while we describe you. We think that's weird. So we do a little bit while you're not here. We intro you, not in front of you, because that's awkward, isn't it? James loves people talking about him. I do.

I don't mind it. Although it does get embarrassing when the intro's, obviously an intro to me is ever so small. It's very short. Did the in-ers what you've been up to for the last 15 years not much well you're smashing it with your youtube channel you two got your youtube channel yeah you are we're not smashing it i've seen it i've watched it i like it oh thank you and i know it's good because it you know when a youtube channel's big because i

wasn't a subscriber straight away, but your videos kept on popping up on the algorithm. I was like, oh, this is a good one because it's spreading. Just keep throwing enough shit at the wall, someday we'll see it. Pretty much, yeah. Are you sure it wasn't pissing you off a little bit? No, no, I like it. Beaten into watching it.

I liked it. And you've got your podcast as well now, haven't you? Yeah. You joined the pod revolution. You listen, I wanted to see how this podcast thing played out before I decided to get involved. Give it a good 10, 15 years. Yeah.

I suppose if you and the Inbetweeners lads had started a podcast straight after the Inbetweeners. Don't get me started, Ron. Don't even get me started. Just those four lads chatting. I'm just saying, it must've crossed your mind. There was a little conversation that I may have mentioned to the boys. Listen,

they're like me, all four of us. The thing that we've all got in common the most is we hate leaving the house. So if we did a podcast together, me and the other boys, it would turn into a whole curb your enthusiasm situation where we'd have to definitely find the exact equidistant

between each other's houses. You can do it from home, though, can't you? We're literally doing this from home. I don't even think Simon Bird has a television. Really? OK. He's got books where his TV should be. I think he's one of those guys. He lives near me, doesn't he?

I sometimes see him in the park. Just wandering around on his own, looking for a podcast host. Your podcast is much easier to edit than a YouTube video. It is for us because we don't edit the podcast. So that's why I like doing the podcast. Editing stuff's awful. On the YouTube channel, everything's done by us, which is, yeah, all right. Claire's pointing herself, though is a strong word so who does it Claire it's us I've done a lot of editing you've

done some but I do most yeah that's why I wanted to do YouTube I wanted to just do whatever I wanted and are you a trained editor Claire or have you taught yourself? I trained you. I do. James showed me once, the very first video we did, James sat with me and showed me how to do it. So I just sort of learned while doing it, learned on the job. But I'm all right now. I mean, I'm very basic. It's just the basics. It's just YouTube videos, isn't it?

Listen, any good stuff that I'm going to come up with, I'm going to see some money. We're not putting our best stuff out on the YouTube channel. That's just free shit that we're going to come up with. I want to see some money. We're not putting our best stuff out on the YouTube channel. That's just free shit that we're giving to people. There's no money in YouTube, KSI's skin, isn't there? Yeah, I don't know where these guys are finding all the cash, mate.

I don't know. I think we didn't fill out a form or something. I've got a theory because there's obviously a market in making yourself look, by the way, I'm not doubting he's not very wealthy, but there is a sort of thing to make yourself look a bit more wealthier than you are on Instagram. And you pose by a Lamborghini and stuff and it's just rented

and things like that. You go, oh, I've picked up the new car today. And it's like, well, you rented it for three months, didn't you, mate? Whereas we're the total opposite of that, aren't we? Yeah. We like to really highlight how awful and terrible our life is. How things have panned out for me personally. I was just always so down how you dragged me into it.

Yeah. No, I'm not going down with a ship on my own. Career aside, though, your personal life, you've got a lovely family, though, James. That's the light of your life now, isn't it? Personal life's great. Got no complaints. I've made two little mates that I get to play video games with and wrestle and beat up.

Not beat up. Beat up. Knock them out. We fight. You've got to be careful with everything you say, don't you? Because that can just be printed, that James beats up his kids. That doesn't look good. Yeah, and you've actually said it, so you wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court, would you? Absolutely, yeah you? Because that can just be printed, that James beats up his kids. That doesn't look good. Yeah, and you've actually said it,

so you wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court, would you? Absolutely, yeah. And how old are your kids? How old are they, Claire? Go on, James. 10 and 11. Yeah. One's just about to turn 12.

Harrison's about to turn 12. Judd's just turned 10. Oh, so you had two under two for a bit then? Yes. What's the gap? 21 months. 21 months. Blimey.

That's a quick turnaround, that, isn't it? Do you feel like you're a bit out of the woods now? Well, with certain stuff, you know. Yeah. They do sort of start to become more self-sufficient, don't they? Yeah. Maybe let me finish those things because I just said bum

really loudly and then nothing else. Yeah, you just shouted bum and then James started talking. I didn't know what happened. I didn't know if he was trying to save you from something I was going to say like the bum wiping the tantrums

that sort of stuff but we are heading into the they call it the tween so Harrison's going to be 12 in a couple of weeks and we're getting

a bit of attitude that's creeping in we've been told from parents that are a bit further along the line than us to enjoy the time now because pretty soon they're not going to want to talk to you and stuff like that and just go to their room.

That's going to really break my heart. Yeah. We do keep talking to Harrison. We're like, will you promise not to be a stroppy teenager, like still hang out with stuff? And he's always like, yeah, no, of course, of course. But sometimes, like when i've started more recently getting him up for school in the morning you know sometimes you can just tell

he hates me right now yeah he does not have time for me at all right now and you really see that little shift happening and then obviously once they discover wanking you're never going to see him for ages are you oh god. You won't see them again. No, they won't do that. They won't do that. They won't do it. You're going to have the only two teenage boys in the world that never wank.

I'd say that would be more of an issue. That would be more problematic. Yeah, I'd send them to see someone about that. Yeah. You get to 21, you've never had a wank. Oh, my God. Who the hell would you send them to see for that? I don't know, but I might.

Well, it's people. Careful, careful. They can help you. You can put the word out. Someone should be able to help. Also, yeah, they're going to discover wanking. They'll probably discover the in-betweeners as well, which, how do you feel about that?

Because that is some of the words in that. You don't really want a 12-year-old saying, They're very aware of the in-betweeners. Yeah, of course they are. They've never seen any of it. They know it's very rude, and they're very aware of the imagery. They know, yeah, of course they are. They've never seen any of it for obvious reasons. And they're not supposed to watch it.

So our eldest has started secondary school now. Yeah. He's getting a little bit of street cred. Is he? Being Jay's son, your dad's a legend

and stuff like that. And he keeps turning around saying he's not. He's really not. I was talking to Blake Harrison about it, who played Neil on a UFC thing and it's like, it's really not. I was talking to Blake Harrison about it. We played Neil. I was talking about the UFC thing.

And it's like, it's so ingrained. It's like a cultural thing more than just a popular show. It's like people of a certain age know everything about that show. So it goes beyond just being on telly for a bit. And it will sort of be around forever because it was such a big hit. But I didn't know if it was carrying on with younger audience members as well. Is it still growing with the younger lot as well, James? I get loads of kids coming up to me and I'm like,

mate, you must have been three when we started making it. Like, what is going on? James is getting the thing now that really sort of hurts your heart a little bit where it's like, oh, I grew up watching you. Yeah, and the bloke is about 34 or something. We're the same age. What are you talking about? I grew up watching you.

And I'm like, did you have a paper round on the N25 or something? I suppose it's a great show for like, if a dad who's in his mid thirties is trying to connect with a teenage boy. Like if you're 15, 16, the in-between is the funniest thing of all time ever. And if you loved it it when you were that age

and then you're trying to find something to watch for your kids, that is a great show to watch, isn't it? I wouldn't watch it with my kids. Well, it's different for you. Yeah, because you're in it, obviously. You don't want to watch it with your kids. But Claire, would you sit down and watch it with the boys while James sits in another room?

No, no. No, thank you. I've heard it's very funny, but nah. It's too weird. Obviously, I've seen clips and stuff, but it's too strange. Do you find that people are like, what, you've got kids, but you're only like 18 because you're kind of like, it's like you've been locked into this thing,

do you know what I mean, where everyone sees you at this stage? Definitely in the beginning. stage definitely in the beginning yeah in the beginning i mean i suppose in this day and age we did have our children quite we were in our sort of early 20s and i suppose that's quite young these days to have kids because how old are you i'm 36 so yeah you're pretty young but yeah there was a lot of like comments online and stuff. It's like kids having kids, absolutely terrible. He's only 16. Are we paying for those kids as well? So how involved are you at school and the drop off?

And how do you split the, because your work is very sort of ad hoc, isn't it? You work together, you can film when you want. So how do you split the parenting? work is very sort of ad hoc isn't it you work together you can film when you want so how do you split the parenting is it 50 50 or does it swing more one way annoyingly i used to do because they're now both at different schools so we both on the school run now right okay that's annoying it is terrible it's awful because it what's all goes through the school run well it used to be that you like i would do the school run if i wasn't working i would do the school run then? Well, it used to be that I would do the school run. If I wasn't working, I would do the school run

because I feel like I can handle that. I know where I am. Driving, driving a car. I love the school run. If I've not got in too late the night before, I love it. Yeah, get them to school. They're already dressed and everything. And they're gone.

Pickups are worse because you have to have them. Yeah, the pickup. I stare at my watch during pickup because there's a time, isn't it? It's like half three or something like that. It's supposed to come out. And when it gets to 3.33, I'm like, well, this is... I've got stuff to do. I've got a life as well.

I'll tell you what, I'm going to start dropping them off three minutes later. That's cool. See how that works out for you lot. Claire, are you involved with like the mums and dads? Are you in the WhatsApp groups? Yeah.

Is James taking the lead on that? No. No, I thought so. I'm not in the WhatsApp groups. I'm desperately trying my hardest not to turn up to like assemblies and things like that. Really?

It's great and everything. I get to see my kids sing a song or something like that. But it's 30 seconds of watching my child do something and about two hours of sitting there bored out of my mind like honestly during sort of post-covid when we had to wear masks yeah I love that because I could just sit there yawning

without offending other parents no you gotta be on the whatsapp groups these days to be honest the whatsapp groups are more helpful than the actual school because you get these cryptic emails about all these different things throughout the year and like there's always those couple of mums who really know what they're talking about they're organized they're ready to go i'm always like what's that thing what do they need when is that and then like one of the organized mums will just tell you what to do. It's because they've done away with the letter home. Because then if you didn't get the letter,

you can really lay it into them and go, it's your fault. You were supposed to give me that letter. I get about three or four emails from the school every day. I'm not reading them all. Of course I'm not. It's impossible. There is a lot. It's like a full-time job trying to read school emails.

Yeah, I'm like an admin officer officer did less stuff happen when we were at school or did they put it in the letter well no but they had to really want to tell you didn't they so now they're like well i might as well pop it in an email yeah true but i do think less stuff happened i mean the stuff they do now like odd odd sock day. Oh yeah, fuck all that. You've got to take a quid into their tights. Fuck off, don't care. It's 10 quid, leave me alone. Yeah, you've got to pay money to wear your own clothes.

I don't know what the book day, come dressed as a book. Why do we only find out about that the day before? Every single year that day sneaks up on us and you've got to run around trying to find a Where's Wally costume. Yeah. And they're really hard to find, actually. There's the clip for Instagram. I'm going to be laughing about that tonight.

I'm going to be just... I'm going to go, that was a good one. Yeah, I enjoyed that. All right, take the next five minutes off. That's the first time Rob's ever done a joke that led to the guest doing a little dance. Enjoy that. There you go, that's the level of America James.

Perfect, perfect joke. Do you remember when we worked together, Rob? What was it for? It was ages ago, wasn't it? That's embarrassing. It was so long ago. I can't remember exactly what it was for. It was for like a teaser,

like a production company was giving some development money to shoot a part of a film. Yes, no, I remember. I was for like a teaser, like a production company was given some development money to shoot a part of a film. Yes. No, I remember I was playing like a gangster and I held you up against the wall in an acting job.

What? I can't remember much about it. It was so long ago and I knew while I was doing it, I had no idea what I was doing. I thought you were going to go,

I knew while I was doing it that you were going to be a star. I thought you were going to do it. No, I knew that. That's for sure. This guy, he's star. I thought you were going to say that. No, I knew that. That's for sure. This guy, he's got star quality. Don't you worry about that. Yeah, I was a gangster roughing you up.

I think it was for like a pilot or something. I'd never heard anything from him. Did you? Still hoping. You still check your emails. No, no, no. So what happened was, was they did end up making that film. During the shoot of that day, I was like,

I'm not right for this part. This isn't me. So I did get an inevitable phone call saying, we're going to go ahead with the film, but we're going to not use you. Well, I didn't even get the email. Didn't get that. Rob, until today, didn't realise the film had been made.

Yes. No, I didn't. What was it called? I can't remember what it's called. It's got Ron Perlman in it, I think. I look a bit like Ron Perlman. What's his name? Ron Weasley. Rupert Grint. Rupert Grint. Oh, we's got Ron Perlman in it, I think. I look a bit like Ron Perlman. What's his name? Ron Weasley.

Rupert Grint. Rupert Grint. Oh, we got done by Perlman and Grint. Is it a moon? Is it a space thing? Yeah, it was about faking the moon landing. Yeah, is it called Moonwalker? Why was I dressed as a 50s gangster?

I'll hold you up against the wall there. Because it was all about these two British blokes trying to get Stanley Kubrick to make the moon landing, to fake the moon landing. Oh, yes. And they're all involved in gangsters and stuff like that. Moonwalkers film. Right, okay. Release date, 2015.

So, yeah, Ron Weasley got it off you. I actually really look like Ron Perlman, but I don't think I was playing Ron Perlman. I think he's like a general in it or something. I quite enjoyed doing that because it meant I could be angry and not smile, and I was all clean shame and I looked a bit weird but that's quite fun that i just remember you were really funny i don't remember acting with you or doing the scenes or anything no no no i'm talking about in between takes all right like just sort of having our lunch and stuff i mean i'd already

had kids by that point so there was no way i was ever going to make a new friend but I was like oh I'd love to hang out with Rob a bit more he was really good that was great fun I was petrified though because I didn't know what I was doing but yeah I think Kevin Bishop got my role he looks like the gangster and I've just googled it how old were you two when you had kids then I was 24 you were 22 or no sorry I was pregnant at 22 I had had Harrison at 23. Pregnant at 24. I had the next one at 25. How old were you when you met? 22.

Yeah, it wasn't long. Okay. You just thought, look, I found the one. Let's not mess about. Was that the thought process? Yeah. Just hurry up. Bosh them out.

Get married. Get a house and just... Get it done. Yeah. Get it done. If you're going to do it, do it. Were youosh them out, get married, get a house and just... Get it done. Yeah. Get it done. If you're going to do it, do it. Were you married at that point or married after?

They were married at 21 before they'd met. I sound like a judgmental auntie at a wedding. So the numbers don't add up. So you're telling me you had children before you got married? Disgusting.

No, we had our first in 2011 and then we got married in 2012, and then our second came along in 2013. So you've got one bastard. And he is a little bastard as well, isn't he? Yeah, I've got one bastard. He's an angel. Are they still a bastard once you're married,

or are they just a bastard until you get married? I'm making this up, but I'm going to say once you're married, they're not anymore. I'll go back to what I just said he still is a reformed bastard a reformed bastard can i do you get the annoying because i've got two daughters i get annoying oh are you going to go for a boy question do you get that or are you going to go for a girl question we did for a long time and funnily enough because i was never the little girl or the sort of teenage girl that was desperate to be a mum I was like maybe if it happens like but I did always used to say if I do

have kids I'd love to have two little boys and then obviously we had them quite quickly and when there were two boys we both just sort of were like I think this is us i think this is what we want i went through a phase of being like i'd love a girl you did a little bit yeah love a daddy's little girl someone a little girl i can spoil when it's not too late guys well see this thing right then you're adding another 18 years onto the sentence then exactly and also lou has to have sex with me as well that goes on top of that as well it's a double whammy it's an 18 year sentence to freedom isn't it essentially yeah listen we've played it all right by the time the kids are 15 16 17 we will be 42 you've got another whole life to live like my plan is to be able to go we're fucking off for the weekend we're going

to go to the places that we never got to go to we're going to go we're fucking off for the weekend. We're going to go to the places that we never got to go to. We're going to go and see Berlin for the weekend. Yeah. Make sure the house looks like this when we get back. Yeah. That's it. Do you feel like that you missed out a little bit of those sort of crazy 20 years? Because that's where you go and travel

and make silly mistakes and do stuff. And like, do you feel that bit having kids so young? I don't feel like I missed out on anything. No, I don't. that big having kids so young i don't feel like i missed out on anything no i don't i mean from 18 to 21 obviously i was going out you were clubbing every night of the week and crawling into college during the week and stuff but i think that me and james weren't really made for that anyway like we were knackered by the time we met i think think that's why we were just like, should we just get married and sit in the house and watch the TV?

And we were like, yeah. Yeah, I was born faulty. I wouldn't be able to have a kid now. I don't have the energy. So fucking tired all the time. We were so young, though, that everything was fun as well. Like we didn't,

and obviously James's job at that time I mean it's still your job but you were working quite a lot back then he was because like because like the films and stuff were coming out in between the first and the second Jude was really young when you were making the second one he was like three months old so I was sort of the stay-at-home mum doing all that and James would be working on and off but obviously because of the nature react and you would spend a lot of time at home as well and it was just we were young it was fun we had so much energy we were constantly taking them out and yeah can't be asked like no I just think I'm ready to to be fair right taking them out when they're a baby is putting them in a seat on wheels.

Yeah, but I'm also thinking about toddlers. Yeah, but now a day out with our kids now is you have to go somewhere where you have to climb a wall or go on trampolines and things like that. They can do that stuff themselves now. What kind of day outs do you do with them? They love a trampoline park. They love rock climbing, like indoor rock climbing. There's other things.

They love going to the cinema. You hate kids films. Why do you hate the cinema? I love the cinema. Absolutely love going to the cinema. I'm a big fan of going to the cinema to watch films and popcorn and the whole pageantry of it all. What else are you doing there if you're not watching a film?

Go there for the sweets and leave. It's the kids' films. I keep falling asleep because they're so fucking boring. I enjoy the sleep. I go there for a kip. When they're 10 or 11, what kind of films are they watching at that stage? Spider-Man.

Spider-Man. All the Marvel stuff, yeah. No, they don't really like the Marvel stuff Spider-Man there's the Miles Morales stuff which is the sort of newer one

they're really into that which those films are alright actually I don't mind them you didn't come the last one no I'm just

boycotting that you just said I don't want to come like it costs a fortune to go there you're going to be like a grumpy old man of the stereotypical

grumpy old dad going to be Claire can I ask a question has he stereotypical grumpy old dad. Going to be. Claire, can I ask a question? Has he got a chair in the living room that no one else is allowed to sit in? No, they're allowed to sit in it, but when I come in the room, they've got to get up. No! I knew it! I knew it! They've got to get up.

But nobody actually does sit in it. Do you know the only other person who sits in that chair is the dog? It's either the dog or James. You've got your own chair. Yeah. Yeah, but if they weren't allowed to sit it when you weren't there that is fucking mental that's like a dictator yeah but you make him get up now your eldest is 12 right yeah he's gonna get bigger and stronger cut to his 16 he's in your chair you're walking get up son get up son and he goes nah not today dad it happens doesn't it yeah

talk me through it which is something I'm training I'm in training already are you okay what are you doing doing a lot of cycling at the moment

so you can run away because I'm on the decline aren't I I'm declining constantly yeah at one point you're going to pass that's it we're going to cross paths

and I'll no longer be leader of the pride yeah hug your hair's face that's it we're going to cross paths and i'll no longer be leader of the pride yeah can i ask you a work question that i'm absolutely fascinated about because you're the king of cameo how many are you knocking out a day and when are you doing it and how i do at least 25 a day sometimes i do a bit every day yeah every day it's really easy yeah do you say to claire i've got to go upstairs and do my cameos or are you doing like fuck it i'll do a couple we're a couple there i can't do a couple i have to do them in blocks of

five at least because if it looks like i've done an odd number of them that hurts my brain right so i like to make sure i do chunks of them and yeah i do it's usually about the time when we finish dinner and all the plates need to go away and stuff i'm like i've got to get these that's when he's done gotta get these done that's not even you literally say that every time but i do i do have to get him done he's got to get him down he's on a turnaround claire do you think sometimes though claire he'll say i've got to go and get these cameos done and there may not be cameos or there may be not that many and he's just sort of sat in a room not looking after the kids.

Has that ever crushed your mind? Very possibly, but I do hear him doing his cameos because he giggles like a little idiot at some of the stuff he has to say. Some of the requests are really funny. Cameo, for people that don't know, you can send a request for you to read a message, video message, to a friend for a birthday or something like that. Happy birthday, congratulations on getting married, things like

that. Will you marry me? Will you marry me? Yeah, I get proposals. Oh my God. I've had a couple where I don't know whether they're serious or not, where it's like, alright, Jay, because obviously that's what they call me. They go, alright, Jay. Listen, I've had an absolute barney with me birds

and I'm lost without her and I want her to take me back and I just thought maybe if you could try and convince her. Oh, my fucking God. I don't think you're taking this relationship seriously, mate. If you're in trouble with the missus, I don't think sending Jay from the in-betweeners in to try and butter her up is going to help

your cause oh my god have you said no yeah there's loads of stuff you've got to say no to James you've had

7,691 reviews yeah fucking hell that's unbelievable but lots of people like them and they make people happy

and I'm a bit sad like that no it's nice if you're like on a night out with friends or a birthday or a stag do stuff like that and they make people happy and i'm a bit sad like that no it's nice if you're like on a night out with friends or a birthday or stag do stuff like that and then you show it to it gives the whole little group of bars the person's absolutely loving it it's a lovely thing to do i've seen a lot of reaction videos my favorite ones to do is the congratulations on getting married during the best man speech or something like that. And they put me on a projector and I get to see everyone reacting and I'll give the groom some tips and tricks on how to have a long,

happy marriage. So you improvising as Jay, basically. Yeah. Come on, don't want James Buckley. Hello, it's James here.

I've just finished doing a YouTube video. You'd be the most miserable family. It would, yeah. James here, up you get, get out of my seat. happy birthday.

You still enjoy doing that but how have you sort of, it's difficult because when you're in such an iconic role, people always want that from you but it must be frustrating because

that's just a part of you and a part you played. How have you sort of resolved that in your head because for some people it could get annoying and difficult to deal with. You must have had

your moments with it. I liked jay it was really funny i can imagine if i hated jay yeah i would probably hate my life right now like yeah it would be a real problem i'm proud of jay it's a fun thing to do and be able to say and do isn't it it's not like you've got a player character that's like, hard work. Oh, imagine if you were doing 25 cameos a day as a character you resented. Yeah, that would be a problem. Oh, yeah. Ask Simon Bird with his little briefcase on cameo,

I'd be able to do that. Are you even on holiday? Is every day of the year cameo day? Yeah, it's no problem. Look, I've had proper jobs. I didn't just turn up on set one day and i was in the in-betweeners i know what working for a living is like and i fucking hated it so i was like i want to try and avoid this at all costs yeah what's the easiest way to make a load of money it turns out is just make a tit at yourself on television as long as you've

got no pride oh mate pride dignity. Pride, dignity, respect. Pointless. Waste of time. Get rid of all of those. I've had a principal since 2011. It's been the best decision of my life. So with the kids, you've got the rock climbing,

cinema and stuff like that. Are they into clubs and sport at the weekend? What's your weekend looking like? Is it non-stop? No, they're all right actually they do go to a little drama club but the older one he's sort of coming away for that now the younger one's still into it but they both play guitar and drums drums is loud isn't it well

it was loud they did have a proper little drum kit But then Santa was very clever last year And brought them an electric one So they can put their headphones in But that's all they do together The little one plays bass and drums And the big one plays guitar Everything Yeah, everything

Plays everything So their playroom They had a playroom downstairs And we just recently changed that Into a sort of little music studio thing. So they're just in there any chance they get. Anytime they don't have to go to school, they're just on the guitar. Have you gone to gigs with them? Yeah, loads.

They had the little baby ear defenders and stuff like that. Like Harrison was three months old watching Weller. Music is a big, the house is never silent. There's always either someone playing music or we're listening to music. Like music's a big thing that we all share as a family. Can you guys play any instruments or sing or anything? Oh, I can twiddle about on the old guitar. Got a good voice as well.

Go on, keep going. What else can you do? What else can you do, James? What else can I do? What else can you do, James? What else can I do? Are you into it, Claire? If James isn't there and Harrison wants to get on the drums.

What's it called? Have a jam. Yeah, I can do the drums a little bit. You can get on the drum kit. You can do a nice... But not really. I always get the phone out.

I'm just the mum. When you three are playing songs, I'm always just recording them. Oh, that must be so fun to play music with your children. No one's taught them anything. Like, I do play guitar and the house is full of guitars and stuff. I've got quite a big guitar collection. But if you leave a child in the room with, like, a keyboard or a guitar

or something, like, I remember the afternoon, Harrison was just like, oh, I'll play guitar now. Like, left him in A room for an afternoon And they've got YouTube So they can just go Oh how do you do this And they just like

Ask YouTube How to do something You leave them there For about six hours They come back And it's Santana Sitting in the room They do have music lessons

At school They do now Yeah Yeah now yeah To be fair Once we were like Oh you're quite good at that. We should probably nurture this. Have you taken them to Glastonbury or festivals or anything?

We went to Alex James' festival. Oh, yeah, we just did the big festival. The big festival, which was great. How was that? Really nice, actually. And I would definitely say if you've got kids, a young family, it's a really, really good one. Everyone's really friendly, just up for having fun

everyone's still drunk and stuff and getting off their faces like pissed like it's still a festival but no one's it didn't sound like you were saying pissed then

when you were feeling around the words yeah you panicked and tapped out I don't know listen what other people get up to is none of my business

no it did seem a bit more family but not like oh we're all teetotal and welcome to this. Like everyone's still like drinking. Well, maybe we were just drunk and we didn't realise. No, they were all drunk.

They were all drunk. We'll interview someone next week. Do not go to the feast of all the Buckleys were there. It was disgusting. They were off their face. Were you in a tent or was you glamping? Or what's the set up for accommodation? You take your own stuff?

Well, we were in a posh hotel nearby. Oh, was you? It was super posh. It was really, really posh. They're all wearing like little tweed blazers and stuff, all the staff and things like that. Nice. And you can tell it's posh as well because people...

Because we didn't know what anything on the menu was. We didn't know. Yeah, couldn't read the menu. Didn't understand what any of it said. Also, people with money, the reason they've got money is because they don't get rid of it. So I tipped our waiter for giving us drinks and he nearly had a heart attack.

And I was like, what's wrong? He was like, oh, no one's given us a tip before. I was like, for fuck's sake. You know who I'm talking about, them posh lot that cling on. Yeah, they love it. I'd get it in, knock it out. That's the working class way, isn't it? But that's why they've still got it for the next generation.

And when do you do your podcasts then in terms of your life? Are you like get the kids to school and then you sit down and you're like, and now we work together? Yeah, but we're in a studio. So we've got to do the school run, get home, quickly get some nicer clothes on, do the hair, and then head out. But it doesn't take that long. It's not like if you're good, if you get into a rhythm quickly.

We've had a couple of disasters where we've already had to go and re-record stuff. Oh, really? Well, the podcast is about sort of marriage and relationships and stuff. So there has been a couple of times where we've just ended up getting into a ban. Yeah, because you know those couple-y podcasts, they're quite popular at the moment, aren't they? And they make sense.

But usually there's sort of at least one cheerful one. Whereas I genuinely think that our podcast is an actual real representation of two people that have been married for over a decade and how they talk to each other. And we did have to re-record half of one because we just, it was like, oh, mummy and daddy are fighting. You don't have to get back into it, but is there a certain issue that you thought of?

But you could get back into it and we wouldn't stop you. I couldn't tell you. You know, sometimes you just disagree on something as a couple. I feel like Claire's got a couple lined up now from the look on her face. There's not a podcast long enough, mate. I can't remember either. I think we just...

Obviously, try and keep it light. It was a little section we do where we sort of make these vows to each other to try and do better at something that the other person needs and then I think I said something and James was like well that's a bit much yeah I think it just went yeah at the end of each episode we ask each other to change something about each other and we thought that that was a good idea to begin with, but now that we're sort of a few episodes in and we're running out of the funny stuff...

Yeah. Now it is just a bit... Can you stop doing that because it hurts my feelings? Thank you. Well, yeah, that's difficult because sometimes, if me and Lou are having a busy week and we've had a bit of... Sometimes in marriages, everything's flying. Sometimes you'd be like,

yeah, you're fucking pissing me off a little bit here. We try and sort of avoid each other for the day, just to give everyone a bit of space. But if you're contractually obliged to come back together to record the conversation, I imagine if it's not a great week, that's a lot of pressure, isn't it? Adult human beings aren't supposed to live together anyway.

Claire and those two boys are my favourite people in the world. There's no one else on the planet who I'm going to enjoy spending more time with than those guys. But you do. You want to. Can you just fuck off for a little while? How far away are you from having separate bedrooms? We're sort of there or thereabouts a lot of the time.

When the kids come in, the younger one, he's always coming in and James can last. I can't do it. I can't sleep with the kids in the bed and they're still crawling in and stuff. Also, they're big now as well. It's like I have a bloke in there it is it is you didn't like that

the last time I didn't know no there's been times when I've been I've been a bloke I just feel silly I just go to the guest room

that's not true by the way but the thing that you do a lot is you pretend that you don't like it but i know that you do you'll be like oh i'm gonna stay up late and finish watching this or if you've been out and you come home late you don't even attempt to come in our bedroom you just go straight to the guest room and it's like half nine ten o'clock and then eventually i will fall asleep but then i'll say to you in the morning i'm like and you're oh i don't want to wake you up. And I was like, I heard you going in the guest room

at like eight o'clock. Who are you talking about? With your tub of Pringles and your bottle of cola, living the life. There's nothing better than sleeping in your own bed. Do you do that, Rob? Do you sleep in a different bed to Lou much? No, not really, because we haven't really sort of got a guest bedroom.

We've got a room that's sort of half playroom, half guest bedroom, but it's got like a sofa bed in it. Because our mentality is you don't want the guest room to be too comfy because people will come and stay. Yeah, the first thing James did was buy like a temper mattress for the guest room. There's a temper mattress in that guest room. That is unbelievable.

Exactly. So it's not comfy enough. I'd have to get like a sofa bed out. However, I think I probably would get in there if we had a nicer bed. If we are in the same bed, though, I have my own blanket. Do you? I get the doobie. I've got like a weighted blanket.

Weighted blanket. Like an ill dog. What does a weighted blanket do? Meant to make you feel safe and secure. It's an anxiety thing, I think. It is really heavy. I know, obviously. It just sort of pins you in the bed.

But it is really heavy. It really keeps you sort of stuck in the bed. I don't like it. Because the sharing of the duvet thing, I find that if you both turn away from each other, you get this sort of duvet bridge where a through draft can come in and then you get a cold back and i hate that i do think though it's nice to share a bed however i do

think you need two duvets or two blankets i have it in like europe they have like two sets so how big are your duvets have you got two single duvets you've got two double duvets now because to be fair you don't always use it you've not used it for a little while but we've got two double duvets. No, because to be fair, you don't always use it. You've not used it for a little while, but we've got the normal bed duvet. And then sometimes James will have his little, I don't know if he's had a stressful day or something, he'll bring his weighted blanket. Can I just inform everyone that you rolled your eyes there,

stressful day, Claire. If he's done like five to ten cameos, he may need that blanket. Yeah. But the problem as well is i'm a i need a cold room it's tough at the top you need a cold room yeah i can join the winner there's a gale blowing through the blinds and rattling and stuff i'm like jesus i'm chattering away my teeth are clacking you're going oh it's too warm you're supposed to sleep in a cold room my teeth are clacking and you're going, oh, it's too warm. You're supposed to sleep in a cold room.

You are. Are you? Does it bring your heart rate down a bit more? Especially a few degrees lower and then that helps you sleep more. Does it? So why are we getting under duvets? Because it used to be cold and we didn't have central heating back in the day. Right. Modern insulation. Even just 20 years ago

it used to be colder. What's that all about then? The bus stop, waiting for my school bus. I've never felt cold like it since in this country. Global warming. I've never felt cold like it since in this country. Do you know what I mean? He's fucking 80. About once a week,

I do say this will be my last Christmas. Yes. Don't buy me any new jumpers. Yeah, you go. I won't be your next winner. You're like, oh, the kids are growing again. We need to buy. I go, don't worry, they can have my stuff.

I won't be here long. You are into your clothes. So how do you feel about them borrowing your nice stuff? Yeah, if they want to look good. Claire, your face just says different. And have they got the trademark haircut? Well, the oldest one used to,

but the boys have both got long hair, little sort of rockers. They're cool kids though. They dress quite cool. They dress, they wear flares and stuff like that.

Really? So do you think they'll be in a band together? That's the plan at the minute. They've got a band name. They've got their studio set up. They're all ready to go. Are we allowed to reveal

the band name or is that under wraps? I think we've said it on the vlog you don't know what it is no no I do I just don't know why we wouldn't

tell anyone it's not a real band it's two tiny children playing it's quite a good band name though it's not a bad band name go on

it's the Squirebirds the Squirebirds oh that's nice I like it where have they got Go on. It's the Squirebirds. The Squirebirds. Oh, that's nice. I like it. Where have they got that from? Is that from John Squire? Yeah, they're big John Squire fans. Who's John Squire?

He's in Stone Roses. Oh. What would you do if they said to you, I think it'd be really cool to have our dad in the band as well, would you go? They'll never say that. They'll never say that. I mean, if they knew what was good for them, they would.

Listen, I'm not being funny. They've written some songs, Claire, and it's been just some of my cast off. Little riff. I chuck my son a little riff. I go, yeah, you can do that. All of a sudden, it's in a song that he's written, and then I go, well, who did write that, really? I think you should manage them, James, but in the character of Jay.

Just making phone calls to nightclubs. Just useless. It could be a sitcom where Jay comes back and he's the manager of the band and they're his kids. And that's the way you launch the band. Like, S Club 7 had their own sitcom that launched them. Yeah, that's right.

So the Squirebirds, the sitcom. They're very sensible and studious and care about the music and you're like, right, let's get the groupies in. Let's order some drink. And they're like, no, no, no, Dad. No, Dad. No, Dad. Come on.

It's not the groupies, Dad. Yeah. We're wandering around. I gave them that fucking riff. He's not playing it right. Give it here, walking out on stage. Yeah. Like ocean colour scene all over again. It is, yeah. give it here walking out on stage yeah like Ocean Colour scene all over again

it is yeah I do like to crowbar my way in James we went through we were mates with Steve Craddock who's the guitarist from Ocean Colour scene

and he invited Harrison's Godfather yeah he invited us to a couple of gigs and then suddenly after maybe two or three

James just well no there was one there was one time i went do you want to get up on stage and play a bit with us i was like yeah of course yeah and then from then on i was like he always brought a guitar to a gig as a in the boot or did you walk into the venue with it yeah i walked into the venue with it just just engaged chuck it to the sound guy yeah Yeah, get that all. Are you two friends with Danny Dyer and his partner as well? Yeah. Are you neighbours then? No.

Yeah, I've been mates with him for a long time. Yeah, they were at her wedding. That was the first time I met Danny. How did you meet Danny? I did a pilot with him for Channel 4, one of the comedy labs. Do they still do those? Was Blaps the name of it for a bit? E4 Blaps or something?

They do a version of that, I think, now, for online. What did he play, a 50s gangster? No. It was actually quite a funny idea. It was a sitcom called Filth. Do you remember Nuts and Zoo? Yeah. Basically the same magazine.

I can't believe that they carried on side by side for so long. Coca-Cola and Pepsi. Yeah. It was like one of them. It was one of those magazines. And my character was like a guy that's been to journalism school, had dreams of winning Pulitzer Prizes and things like that. Was basically writing for nuts.

Like how much stuff can you fit in your foreskin and things like that. Yeah. Eight quid in coppers. That's it. And Danny Dyer played the sort of military correspondent, sort of like he'd been on tour to Afghanistan and he had a column that would talk about sort of that sort of stuff. He's such a brilliant comedic actor. Yeah, he's well funny, isn't he?

I don't think he knows that he's as funny as he is. We always say that. Like, when we go around and have a curry or whatever, like, he is just genuinely hilarious. And you wouldn't think it if you didn't know him personally, but he's so funny.

And sometimes he doesn't know he's being funny. He's fucking hilarious. Do your kids get on or are they different ages? Because he's got younger ones as well, hasn't he? Yeah, their little boy,

he's actually a month younger than Jude, their little one. one so they all get on well they're all roblox friends and all that sort of stuff yeah i can't imagine danny diason being a rocker in flares though i imagine a bit more stone island yeah he's a bit more he's a great kid though and his bad boys love i art he's also very funny actually yeah he's funny he's the kid where he'll just say it and you go you don't mind saying what everyone's thinking

really amazing well we always finish with the same question it's quite exciting saying the end question for a couple yeah so we normally have one person we ask them what one thing their partner does that they think is absolutely amazing they're so lucky to have kids with them but also the one thing that drives them mad that they wish they didn't do as a parent and if they were to listen back they'd go oh yeah that's a fair point but you're going to be doing it live so what's the

one thing about each other you can decide who goes first it makes you go oh my god i love him so much and the other thing that's like that does my head in just as a parent as a parent the way they parent the kids yeah or if you want to go for his character as well that's fine claire that's up to you i think we're gonna have to put some parameters on this because i can feel you trying to whittle down all the things that you'd like to whereas i've got two off the bat i'm not i'm just struggling for the good thing well there you go you are the best mum i could not imagine having a better mum for my children my children have got the best mum in the world you are the greatest there's nothing you wouldn't do from you know this you know this there's nothing you wouldn't do from you got all

the patience in the world from however cut to the chase here we go here we go it's that they are growing up a bit now and i really do feel like they need to be doing a tiny bit more for themselves, a tiny bit more of thinking for themselves and not coming to you. Like Harrison's in secondary school. He's my little project at the moment, Harrison. I'm trying to get him to be a bit more sort of grown up and I started taking him to the gym with me, didn't I,

and stuff like that. I want him to know what homework he's got when he comes home just little things like that just him knowing what he's doing with his life a little bit more yeah whereas you're just like running around after him i'm just organized with stuff i'm like right this is what you got to do he needs to organize it he needs to wake up in the morning go go, right, I need to know what books. You shouldn't be checking his timetable. You need your English and your science today. He should wake up, look at his own timetable and go, right,

pack my English, pack my science. I just feel like that will come. It won't. It won't come. It will not come. That will not come. There's no child on the planet that goes, oh, well, I'm getting everything done for me,

so should I start doing it myself? No, absolutely not. I mean, we could pull it that fucking thread with you. I do everything for you and all. Exactly. It's not like my kid's growing up as useless as me. I'm just trying to save him. Do you think that's a fair point, Claire?

Or do you think it's just a difficult transition period because he's only just started secondary school? I think a little bit of both. I think I could probably try and let him do a little bit more for himself, especially the older one. Go on, let him sink or swim a little bit. But I'm just his mum, like, that's just what I do. Now, what about James? What's the positive and negatives as a parent?

So the good thing... This will be the first time I'm hearing this. I can't believe my luck. This is going to be great. It's actually really sweet getting to watch this, but I think this part

might be less sweet. I hate this, but anyway. The good thing is you are a really good dad as well. Yeah. You don't have as much patience as me. The positive slipped into a negative

second sentence. But you are very good at the fun stuff. You're a fun dad. Yeah, I'll have a laugh with him, don't I? You can take things that maybe if I'm sort of

trying to give them into trouble or for something or like you, you're quite good at spinning things into a positive, I would say.

Okay. I don't know what any of that meant. No, I just mean like if something's a little bit intense, is this really hard to listen to? No, it's absolutely glorious. It's the best bit we've ever done. Something's a little bit tense, you're quite good at cracking a joke

and cheering everybody up and making... Now would be a good time. Make light of stuff. But you are a good time. Make lighter stuff, yeah. But you are a good fun dad. I am good. Because I do want to be close to my kids. I want them to feel like they can talk to me about anything and vice versa.

Well, that's what I mean as well. Even if it's like, Harrison, for instance, recently did sort of sex education stuff. And I was trying to be very like, yes, that's right. And do you have a question about that? And sort of of did that whereas you came in and just sort of laughed because he was talking about testicles and stuff it's hilarious like you're quite good at that stuff i was away working and

harrison was on the phone you were like oh harrison wants to talk to you and he's like dad started doing sex education today he went i've I've got some questions. I went, I've probably got some fucking questions for you as well. He doesn't swear. But it's funny. Yeah, you're good at that. Stuff doesn't have to be serious or awkward and stuff like that. And the negative, Claire? If you could just give us one, that would be great.

Maybe. You should just try and help it a bit more. Just in general Just everything With what? What do you need help with? Clothes Dishes Dinners

I've got you already mate I've got you already Homework Because you're one of these people Claire That are like I've got to do everything myself And then as soon as someone helps you out You go

You're not doing it right I'm doing it myself So it's like I don't know fucking What do I do? So next one. Try hardening. No, because I only say that because you piss about and you do it.

And I know that you're one of these people who. 15 love. You do it terribly so I don't ash you again. And you've mastered that. Well, what's it? What is this stuff? I don't know. I don't know where stuff goes.

There's stuff in the kitchen that I don't know where it goes sometimes. So do you think he's doing it badly on purpose to get out of doing it? Yeah. What's it called? Weaponised incompetence. Oh, we've had that mentioned on it before. That's a big thing on here, James. That's what he's doing.

I'm taking that as a compliment. You think I'm being incompetent on purpose? Right. No, no, no. There are people this stupid here. You're not stupid. You think I'm being incompetent on purpose. Right. No, no, no. There are people this stupid. You're not stupid. Maybe we'll set up a little, like,

orienteering day around the kitchen. I think that'd be a great YouTube video where you go, okay, so here are the jobs I want help with. One is the dishwasher. I'm going to show you exactly where it all needs to go and I'll do it on camera so you know. This is the clothes. This is where they all go. That's how we do it.

And then... Refer back to the footage. I wouldn't have a problem at all. My argument would be is what's wrong with asking me? I've got to like be intuitive. I've got to be like upstairs or something while you're downstairs, but still realise that you need some help with something. Like my radar's going off.

It's not that you have to do it. You should want to help me. I don't know what you want. Just go. Oh, can you put that away for me? But it's the same thing every day and night we do

it's not as if it's like a new thing oh these plates need cleaned before we use them again they need cleaned it's the same thing the dishwasher does

anyway I think we should finish up then I'd say the last ten minutes is the best advert for a podcast I've ever seen in my life in sickness

and in health is available on all the usual podcasts. I feel like we should send some sort of marriage council around now once we leave the Zoom, where you two have just got to be with each other all day after that. This is us actually, like, sort of, all right. I'm enjoying myself. This is us turning it on for you. Like, we get much more.

That's brilliant. Thank you so much for coming on the show, guys. Good luck with the YouTube channel and the podcast. And obviously, we look forward to seeing your kids headline Glastonbury in a few years' time. Yeah, with their dad on drums. I'll be there. He'll be there.

Bears dancing beside them. James Buckley and the Squirebirds. Doing a few cameos between the songs. Absolutely. Cheers, guys. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks for having us.

The Buckleys. The Buckleys. I enjoyed that. That was great, wasn't it? Because I do actually watch that. Their relationship is really funny because you can be whingy and Claire takes no shit. So they just argue on their YouTube channel quite a lot,

which is pretty funny. Also, it's a great example of someone to be level-headed where when you have played such a big character like that you can let it get in your head but he's very much embracing it and enjoying it and having a great life off the back of it rather and going I want to be known for more than that but if you play something that resonates so many people you just have to accept it don't you exactly Rob exactly you've got, Rob Beckett, and you're sticking with it. Exactly. It's done me well. Right, Josh, I've got to go.

I've just been texted. Someone said I've got a flat tyre, so that's good news. Oh, good. Have fun. Go and sort that out. Right, cheers, bye. I'll speak to you about that on Tuesday.

Bye. Hi, guys. Fatia El Ghori here. Quick question, bruv. Do you like to laugh? Do you like to give money to good causes? Course you do, bruv. Course you do. Well, listen, on Thursday, the 2nd of November at Hackney Empire, I'm hosting a comedy night with a star-studded lineup. Heard of Rob Beckett, Jack D, Kerry Goddiman, Axel Blake, Joanne McNally, Harry Hill. Well, yeah, I pulled some strings, didn't I?

They're all going to be joining me to raise money for the British Red Cross, Morocco earthquake and Libya floods appeal. It's a win for your dopamine levels and your morals. So get your tickets at Hackney Empire or Ticketmaster. See you there, innit?