Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S7 EP36: Adam Kay

Episode Date: November 24, 2023

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant writer, author, comedian and former doctor - Adam Kay. Adam is best known as author of the number-one bestselling book ‘This Is Going to Hurt’. His new book KAY’S INCREDIBLE INVENTIONS is available now. In the latest laugh-out-loud book from the record-breaking Adam Kay and Henry Paker, you’ll learn about everything ever invented, from the daft to the disgusting to the downright dangerous. You’ll discover all about the queen who pooed on the first ever toilet, how velcro was invented by a dog and why the Ancient Greeks wiped their bums on dinner plates, as well as 48,762,851,208 other facts. (Approximately.) Illustrated by Henry Paker, friend and fellow comedian, who has worked on all Adam’s bestselling children’s books, Kay’s Incredible Inventions is funny and factual, written with the UK's Key Stage 2 science and history curriculum very much in mind, and is destined to inspire the next generation of scientists and inventors. Just like Kay's Marvellous Medicine and Kay's Anatomy, Kay's Incredible Inventions offers wonderfully gross and wonderfully funny entertainment. It offers fun first but also education by stealth. Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parents in Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping or hopefully how they're not coping and we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips advice and of course tales of parenting woe because let's be honest there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing hello you're listening to parenting how i haven't got i haven't got an intro rob i haven't got an intro all right okay don't panic we're all right baby we haven't got time for an intro today because we're doing the driving theory test rob right okay yes this is

the the feature no one asked for what they're getting where josh widdicombe is taking on a uk driving theory test with zero revision yeah revision except the fact i've driven for the last 23 years and you should know all these things now because of you've passed it once before okay we're bringing on adam k but we said we do this last week so we'll just knock this out in the intro normally we do an intro where we discuss adam k he needs no introduction he's a national treasure national treasure nhs that that thing with um paddington in that show yeah this is gonna hurt ben wishaw what's that yeah yeah yeah What was it called? This Might Hurt or This Is Going To Hurt. Yeah.

From his book. Anyway, Adam Kay, absolutely brilliant. Brilliant children's book. Brilliant children's book. You just want to do the theory, don't you? Yeah, let's get on with it. You've got an hour to do this normally, but we're going to probably whiz through this, guys.

We're not going to do this for a whole part. Okay, question one, Josh, on your theory test. How can you use your vehicle's engine to control your speed? Accelerate. The options are change to a lower gear, reverse, change it to a higher gear, or select a neutral. Lower gear. Okay.

Next question. You're approaching a roundabout. What should you do if a cyclist ahead is signaling to turn right? Stay behind them. Give the cyclist plenty of room. Yeah, that's the one. Okay, you can have that one. I'm flying it.

I'm absolutely flying it. What should you do if you think the driver of the vehicle in front has forgotten to cancel their right indicator? Flash your lights, sound your horn, overtake them, stay behind and don't overtake. Stay behind and don't overtake. I'm fucking cooking on gas here. That's three from three.

Basically, the answer is, what would a stiff neck say? Yeah, exactly. Rob would go hoot a horn and flash lights at that point. Go pull over, you wanker. Get out, scream, exactly. Rob would go hoot a horn and flash lights at that point. Go pull over, you wanker. Get out, scream, mug. Now, which sign... This is difficult on a podcast. Which sign...

Oh, no. ...means no stopping? It's like a red and blue kind of cross thing, isn't it? Yeah, you're correct. Yeah, that's there. How should you use anti-lock brakes when you need to stop in an emergency? Keep pumping the foot brake to prevent skigging.

I don't know what an anti-lock brake is. Brake normally, but grip the steering wheel tightly. No, it can't be that. Brake promptly and firmly until you've stopped. Apply the parking brake to reduce the stopping distance. It's C or D. I don't really know what anti-lock brakes are, so I'm going to go C.

Okay, right. Next question. It's 50 of these. What should you do... We'll do 30. gonna go see okay right next question what should it's 50 of these what should you do we'll do 30 let's do 30 okay what should you do when you're approaching traffic lights that have red and amber showing together pass the lights if the road is clear take care because there's a fault with lights wait for the green light stop because the lights are changing to red keep going because it's about to change to green following a collision a person has been injured what would be a warning sign for shock? I think

I should have gone with the green light, but it's too late now. Flush complexion, warm, dry skin, slow pulse, rapid, shallow breathing. Rapid, shallow breathing. Okay. You take some cough medicine given to you by a friend. What? What should you do? Check it doesn't make you drowsy.

Okay. Ask your friend if it's taking the medicine affected their driving. Drink some strong coffee. Check the label to see if it will affect your driving. Yeah, label, label. Okay, cool, cool. That's a good one.

That's an easy win, that is. Yeah. You're looking for someone to park your vehicle. Neither you or your passengers are disabled. What should you do if the only free spaces are marked for disabled drivers? Don't park in it. Don't park in it. Yeah. Wait for a regular parking space to come free easy peasy how are you failing this

jamie lang right um what could you do to help injured people at an incident keep them warm and comfortable give them something to eat ideally porridge keep them on the move by walking them around or give them a warm drink first one keep. Keep them warm and comfortable. I'm fucking pissing this. Right, we'll do 20 and see what happens. What should you do when you move off from behind a parked car? Give a signal after moving off. Look around before moving off. Look around after moving off.

Use exterior mirrors only. B. Look around before moving off. Okay. You're approaching traffic. Is this interesting? You're approaching traffic lights. Everyone's playing along at home.

It's got play at home ability. Imagine if you're like, I'm a huge fan of Adam Kay. I'm going to give this podcast a chance. I warn you, this is going to hurt new listeners. Josh, you're approaching traffic lights and the red light is showing. What signal will show next? Red and amber? Green alone?

Amber alone? Green and amber? Red and amber. Why alone, amber alone, green and amber. Red and amber. Why is it dangerous to travel too close to the vehicle ahead? Come on. Your engine will overheat,

your mirrors will need adjusting, your view of the road will be restricted, your sat-nav will be confused. C. You're driving towards this left-hand bend. What danger

should you be anticipating? It's like a country road going left, Josh. Okay. A vehicle overtaking you, mud on the road, country road going left josh okay a vehicle overtaking you mud on the road the road getting narrower pedestrians walking towards you pedestrians walking towards you see i wouldn't have known that you're a little country boy yeah yeah too bloody right you're in a built-up area at night and the road is well lit why should you use dipped headlights so that you can see further on the road so that you can go a much faster speed

so you can switch to the main beam quickly so that you can see further on the road. So that you can go at a much faster speed. So you can switch to the main beam quickly so that you can be easily seen by others. D. 16 out of 20. Why should you allow extra room while overtaking a motorcyclist on a windy day? The rider may turn off suddenly and get out of the wind. To get out of the wind.

Fuck yeah, now. How do you get out of the wind? The rider may be blown in front of you. The rider may stop suddenly. The rider may be travelling in front of you the rider may stop suddenly the rider may be traveling faster than normal blown okay the rider may be blown in front of you it's a very agile back passenger good bit of humor you're following two cyclists as they approach a round about in the left-hand lane where would... Imagine if we'd done 50 of these. Fucking hell.

Last three. Thanks for staying with us. You're following two cyclists as they approach a roundabout in the left-hand lane. Where would you expect the cyclist to go? Left, right, any direction, straight ahead? Any direction. Or the other option, go to a cafe, have a cake, because they've earned it. Any direction?

Yeah. That's how I failed my first test. I didn't know that a big articulated lorry always took the outside lane in a roundabout. So I presumed he was going to turn off. Oh, but of course, because he's got to get round. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that.

We're all learning, aren't we? And if you are a cyclist listening to this while you're cycling and you're getting annoyed you should be ashamed of yourself you shouldn't be listening to a podcast whilst on a bike question 18 how should you dispose of a used vehicle battery here we go bury it in your garden put it in the dustbin take it take it to a local authority disposal site leave it on wasteland i mean that is mental that is unbelievable say leave it on wasteland okay you've gone for d there thank you 19 you wish to tow a trailer no one wishes to do that they just have to

you wish for i wish to tow a trailer where would you find the maximum nose weight for your vehicle's tow hitch? Fucking hell, I don't even understand the question. In the vehicle handbook, in the highway code, in your vehicle registration certificate, in your licence documents. Handbook, I don't know. In the vehicle handbook, okay, next question. You're following a long vehicle approaching a crossroads, what should you do if the driver signals right

but moves close to the left-hand curb? Well, that's exactly what I was saying. Basically, that's exactly what I was just saying. So warn the driver about the wrong signal, wait behind the long vehicle, report driver to the police, overtake on the right-hand side. Report him to the police, the fucking loser.

Just stay behind him. Okay, fair enough. Wait behind the long vehicle okay right that is your 20 questions it'll obviously say you're failed because you've only done 20 out of 50 but i don't think we could you know people will be checking into the a and e through boredom you've basically got um everyone right josh have i you got them all correct josh 20 out of 20 no you didn't oh what should you do when you're approaching traffic lights that have red and amber showing together oh yeah i plowed on wait for the green light not plowing on through you animal yeah sorry yeah so that was the only one you got wrong

do you know what it's pretty impressive that josh i'd say thank you very much 19 out of 20 right welcome all the adam k fans this is the podcast this is over 300 episodes for you to enjoy thank you very much this is the incredible adam k adam thanks for coming on the show um bafta winner writer comedian performer got another book out you're doing competitions helping young kids you're smashing life but before we get on to that we need to talk about the kids because it's a parenting podcast how many kids you got what age they're very young aren't they adam is that right god i knew you're going to ask something like that uh so they're they're eight months and 12 months right and they're called uh or a year also known as ziggy and ruby and they Ruby. And they're all right.

I mean, they're, I don't know. Eight months and 12 months. Can you tell the, does that feel like there's a different, big difference between eight months and 12 months? Yeah, I mean, I'm too tired to be able to really answer that. I mean, there's sort of Ruby, who's the older one, was born prematurely and she was very tiny and there was all sorts of stuff going on.

And then Ziggy came along and he was massive. So he's younger, but he looks like he's like twice her age. Right, okay. But then again, and she's tiny and she's like saying words and doing stuff and so that's quite disorientating to but basically i don't really know what's going on and it's just lovely to be uh out of their playroom for an hour yeah i was gonna say because at 12 because they're through surrogacy so that they get the age gaps that's correct is it you

and you're open talking about that isn't it is that right absolutely absolutely on it so the bumps are slightly off so with twins when they're exactly the same because quite a lot happens within a few months like when you've got an eight month old and a year old they're at different developmental points whereas when you've got twins even though it's busy with two they're both doing the same thing it must be exhausting to have them and have two but they're just slightly off rather than being on the right both on the same thing twins but more difficult the sleeping's always been slightly different and the eating's always been slightly different and their nap times are slightly different um but presumably at some point they become a bit more sort of twinny. Like when you're like, for example, when you're like 43, like me,

a difference of four months probably doesn't make any difference. No. Certainly when you're less than a year, it seems to be quite a big thing. Yes. But even at school, like you wouldn't speak to someone in the year below when you were like 17 or something. That would be madness. Why are you hanging out with them? you wouldn't speak to someone in the in the year below when you were like 17 or something that'll be yeah that'll be mad yeah yeah so it it does even up it does even up i suppose it has to it's currently unsustainable the situation so i couldn't tell you like when you're a doctor you

ask these questions if you're worried someone's got some sort of like dementia thing going on yeah who's the monarch what day it is where i i reckon i'd get about three out of ten on any given day i've been admitted i think it's when you've got young kids like that is just like being jet lagged all the time like yeah constantly that's a very good description and you're working a lot at the moment as well. So how are you balancing that? How are you splitting the childcare with your partner at the moment then? How are you managing? Because just having a book out and the PR of a book is intense and it's contractually bound. So it's something you can't really.

Oh, yeah. I'm not pretending I want to be here. This is literally in a contract. This is three times shorter than sunday brunch adam just enjoy the fact you're doing this one rather than having to go to london on a sunday morning but this isn't one of the shows where i can drink actually i can't okay no one knows what the hell's going on um so james has taken quite a lot of the the bit on it you know when i have to go off and do things which is tough on him but then when i get back um he gets his revenge and he's like right i've just been doing this for 48 hours i'm out um but i think the other thing about work is um about a

year ago year and a half ago i took my i ended my last tour of This Is Gonna Hurt. And I'd played to like 300,000 people. I thought, what a lovely way to bow out live performing. And my writing's my life now. I sit in my room and I write and I've done that. And that's been put to bed. And now I've got the kids. I'm just like, right, I wonder what Dundee's like.

They must have a theater and so i've just uh just added like 30 dates in the spring because i'm just just going to get some lovely sleep aren't i i mean you're going to take the you're going to take the family on tour um uh i'm gonna try try not to i mean unless there's some sort of two hotel situation we can uh we can find i think you just need your space in the day. You're almost performing from the moment you wake up, aren't you? That's the way. It's all part of the performance on tour.

You need that space. A lot of big touring acts, obviously, when Adele's on tour, I imagine she'll have a hotel and there'll be like a crew hotel, which is nearer the venue and maybe not a five-star one. So maybe you could put James and the kids in the crew. Yeah, exactly. Adele's not staying in the Premier Inn, is she?

No, she's not. Not anymore. So what's your day looking like at the moment then? Because it's all about routine when they're under a year, really, isn't it? What's the routine? There's a lot of routine. I'm all about the routine. The kids, much less so about the routine.

Of course, yeah. We've had the discussion. They sleep very well which is which is which is which is something uh but then they don't sleep at all during the day they're meant to all the books say they nap they can't read yet they haven't read the books sure they don't know they have to nap yeah so that it's so it's pretty pretty pretty they don't nap in a day but sleep all night yeah which i think i'd i think of the two i'd i'd accept yeah i think you'd take that take that any day of the week and uh and we do we do i mean they sleep there's a couple of windings and wines and

moans and we and we do alternate nights in terms of who's responsible for getting up and replacing a dummy. I can hear the sound of a dummy dropping from a mattress to the floor. I'd say a mile away. The worst sound, that sort of... of the dummy hitting the floor, because I know there's going to be some screaming after that. How many dummies are in the cot at night? Just the one in the mouth, or do you have spares around them?

We have 600 per cot. Yes, that's the best way. It's like a ball pit. Off chance that they'll just grab one and put it in, and I don't need to get out of bed. I tell you, the day my daughter grabbed a dummy that was near her and put it in her mouth, I was laying there going, this is it, it's a new dawn.

This is where it all changes. I can't imagine. One day. When it's not your night, what would have to happen for you to get up and help? Like, how badly does it have to go for the rotor to be... A significant fire. Not just in the kitchen.

It would need to be really consuming, a large proportion of the habs. picture will lead to me really consuming a large proportion of the hams i used to i used to a few years ago i was getting like some sort of insomnia and i was like my i used to pride myself on my sleep and i could sleep on my full nine ten hours or whatever and then my sleep started to go and i was like there's something you know something's something's not right and i and even i went to see a doctor about it and um turns out what it uh thing is I just wasn't exhausted and now I'm exhausted I can he just wasn't tired enough wasn't tired enough and now I'm too tired I could I could have a sleep that was so long it would be technically a coma i think i think i would hit the criteria for

that um like james james was away for a few days getting revenge for me often being away and by the end of that uh i just couldn't do anything the next day i have no idea how a single parent does it. I literally can't understand it. I don't understand what the day even looks like. I have so much respect for my mates who've done that because I can't even envisage it. It's so exhausting. And I know two is a rough number of babies to have under the age of one but i've i've got friends who've done that as well you know that is for them i think you're right in the the heavy bit of it where it's constant like everything sends it off slightly and they're

not sleeping and things like that is you're constantly holding them or checking on them it's not like when they're a bit older and they're running about so you are in the the hardcore that's the thing the relentlessness and the fact that working as a doctor was quite was it was a tough job but the shift ended this shift doesn't end but they are they are great kids uh ruby started saying words which is obviously amazingly rewarding and you know makes up for the makes up for the everything else she does but the um uh we thought we've got a dog what was her first she got her first word first word was dog and we've got we've got pip who's our dog and she said dog and that was and that was amazing and every time pip would come she'd say dog and we're like oh we've got a genius and then we went to my mum's

house and she's got a cat she's Tara and Ruby pointed at it's a good name for a cat and Ruby pointed at the cat and said dog and we were like okay close enough

and then we got back and she was like pointing to the fridge and saying dog and turns out she thought that word just means object i think like there's something just a sort of overall term for anything you see that isn't yourself so i mean I mean, we've had a couple of words since. So she's got over that hump. But yeah, but that's amazing when they start to do stuff. We had a similar thing. Well, not similar, but where for about a week,

we thought my daughter was a genius because she'd watched, she was watching Strictly with Rose's mum. And at the end of... When they put the four scores out, she'd just add them up straight away. But then she watched it the following week, and Rose's mum doesn't notice that they come up...

The final score comes up on the screen before Tess says it. So she was just reading it out loud. And Rose's mum was like, it's unbelievable. She can do these four numbers just like that before Tess has done it. It's like the book Matilda. Yeah, exactly.

But no, she was just reading off the screen. Which, you know, it'll do. It'll do reading. Exactly, it still counts. Talking of reading, Adam, do you enjoy that, Rob? I really like that, it exactly it'll still count talking of reading Adam do you enjoy that Rob? I really like that actually look at that

talking of reading yeah yeah incredible inventions incredible inventions I've also got Kay's Anatomy here so I've got

look at that look at that this is is this out now? it's out now very much out now illustrated Henry Packer amazing Henry Packer amazing henry packer

the amazing henry packer um and so this i mean it's a beautiful a good children's books are beautiful objects beautiful dogs if you will and they um he's happy with that isn't he adam bathing in the glory of it i'm less happy with it now that't he, Adam? He's all face flicking through his book. Bathing in the glory of it. I'm less happy with it now that it's been pointed out. If I just kept that in but hadn't made a thing of it. Look at him, Adam. He's a confidence player. After the reading link, then the dog for the book object stuff, he's flying.

I could be on this morning, Rob. Give me a fucking chance. You'd have to arm wrestle Ryland for it. Yeah, I would. And I would lose. You would lose to Ryland. He's a massive bloke, Ryland.

Yeah. I love Ryland. He's so big. He's intimidatingly big, isn't he? But then he's so camper friendly. He's lovely, isn't he?

Yeah. He could be a gangland enforcer if he wanted to go a different route. Yeah. It's important to keep your options open, isn't it?

It is. I've had a weird career trajectory. No reason to go into the world of the mafioso. No one was expecting you to make a book about incredible adventures for children when you were a doctor, were they? Talk us through how you've got here in one sentence. Doctor, bad day at work, work comedian not very good at that writer

what made you want to be a doctor in the first place though what was it was it being strong-armed by my parents right that pressure to a school that churned out you know doctors lawyers architects it was all sort of predetermined for me and i wasn't really i wasn't part of the the committee who chose and turns out but you know parents as i now realize want the best for their children of course yeah i was from a family where there were lots of doctors there and the best for a child for them meant you know a sensible job yeah yeah of course but ironically you're you going against the grain of what your family wanted you've probably had more of an impact as a doctor and talking about

medicine and that world through what you've done now not actually practicing it wouldn't you say unless you tell me you're like your granddad was like charles darwin or something i mean what's he a doctor did evolution is sort of medicine i mean i i've got enormous guilt about leaving medicine and so the guilt i have uh involves me sort of trying to be useful as a member of society obviously the arts have the most enormous value but the bit of me that you know that what that helped people on labor wards for however many years is still wants me to help and so i'm sort of i work quite a lot uh with respect the mental health of the of doctors and the various health care professions so i'm sort of i'm trying to you know use the platform i've now got to help my former colleagues you know mostly because i feel terrible about

about walking away from it but then i started writing the my first kids book the case anatomy one was with a view to you know making kids really interested in their bodies like and like teaching them all the science they need to know for their biology and blah blah blah but also the important stuff um the you know the chats about you know smoking and sex and uh body image and neurodiversity and the and conditions that they might have axma x asthma, diabetes and stuff their friends might have. And so sort of getting the stuff, subcontracting a lot of the stuff that parents don't want to talk about through writing in a sort of chummy, silly, disgusting way.

And then that book went well. And then we had another one that me and henry wrote called uh k's marvelous medicine about the history of medicine and all the various diseases over the ages and it's just been so hugely rewarding because kids as you're very well aware are honest audience adults aren't honest kids if they say we like it, we really know they liked it. But the most amazing thing was having messages from parents saying that this book got my kid reading when they weren't reading before. It's an unusual sort of writing, I guess, in that it's hopefully funny, silly, gross, but it's nonfiction rather than fiction. So kids who think they've read enough books about a dog who flies to the moon

or whatever, this is a different thing. Wait a minute, is that an idea that you're throwing around a dog? Yeah, I was hoping you'd say that sounds great and then i could and i could crack on with crack on with that and give you know badila run for his money and uh then whose books are actually brilliant obviously um but um and particularly had uh messages from parents of neurodiverse kids saying that there's something in the way that we write that has, you know, you know, they're saying,

you know, their kids have read, you know, Kay's anatomy 12 times and they, you know, and their teachers are bamboozled by how they know so much science. And so what I thought was just going to be like one book has, you know,

started to become a series. And, and so. And do you, do you go into schools? What's that? Yeah. We just did a um a gig in stockport at the plaza to the thick end of a thousand kids wow wow what was that like it's different it's a pain in the ass isn't it at the front that massive organ that comes up that they

love you're like yeah but there's a fucking massive organ between me and the audience actually as pretty as it looks there's an organ in the way there is an organ in the way we were we were in front of the organ so balanced on a thin edge yes that's your option you either perform on a tightrope or behind an organ but it's a beautiful organ it's an amazing theater and but the um but like a dozen or so schools had sort of had sent their kids in and they're it's just really fun and we keep it silly because i mean i guess my books are a slight confidence trick um even the adult ones are you know the you know like this is going to hurt pretends it's just a funny silly you know gross out book but actually it's hopefully making some points about you know the nhs and how our health care staff are treated but the kids books say you

know this is this is just disgusting stuff but we can hopefully get some facts in there as well when we do it live we we major on the students. Is there constant chatter? No, they sort of... It depends. That isn't a slam on your performance, obviously, but I can't imagine I've got the ability to hold 20 children listening to me, let alone 1,000.

So it partly depends on, I think, how terrified they are of the teacher who's come with them to the theater that makes a that makes a big difference and you can see different pockets of these big theaters depending on the school yes and there are clearly some some teachers they're like we're absolutely not fucking with her and there are some there's clearly some more soft touch teachers who they say when they say, God, please. It makes absolutely no difference. But the secret weapon for these shows is Henry does live illustrations.

Oh, he's amazing. That is absolutely amazing. So he draws on this visualizer thing and it projects it right onto the back. And he might as well be levitating by the sort of amazement of the of the of the children any time i worry i'm slightly losing it with a with a you know my hopefully interesting facts about toilets we cut straight to henry and he draws something like oh wow or even better take suggestions about what you want him to draw and he can draw it. That is, I still find that incredible that you can just say, you know, draw a toaster being attacked by a zombie poo or whatever,

and he draws it. And it's like, how do you do that? How quick is he at it then? Because the book's amazingly illustrated. It's beautiful. And whether it takes him an hour to do each one or five minutes, it doesn't matter because the end product is incredible. But I feel like he's just super talented.

He knocks them out in about two seconds, but he doesn't want everyone to know. So, you know, you can sort of pretend. But I feel like he's so talented at illustrating. He can certainly, I mean, there's so many illustrations in the book. It's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of illustrations. Live, it's, you know, he does them very, very fast it's amazing to amazing to watch and how did you know him on the circuit

or did you meet him further down the line when you was putting your books together so he's a comedian as well very funny weirdest weirdest story so um i just been into puffing the publishers and we um and we we talked about me doing this book and they said yes let's do it and they said the first thing you need to do is think about an illustrator because it's you know that was a big part of it I wanted it to be really I loved I've always felt short-changed when I was a kid and I read a book and you went you open the page there was no picture there like come on come on Blake put the hours in even now i like the photos in a biography give me a bit exactly give me two photo sections please give me something to flip through

when i've been giving it as a gift i'm gonna read let's see um and so i went around the huge waterstones the lovely waterstones in piccadilly. We bought like 30 books of all different illustrated books. And we went and sat in a cafe and we were reading through them. And none of them had like the added comedy that I was sort of hoping it would have. And so we sort of, none of them were right. And so we were a bit miserable. then it was uh mike wozniak's 40th that evening mike uh amazing comedian who people know from cast master and blah blah blah and who know i've known since i was 18 because we were at neighboring medical schools together we were in fact at some point in a terrible comedy troupe together anyway he won't want me mentioning that uh but anyway so we were there and got talking to henry i sort of

you know met met you know over the years bits and bobs and he was just saying what you're up to today and why why you're holding nine waterstones bags oh it was the exact same day then yes and uh and i was just i said about this thing he said, well, you know I illustrate, which I didn't. I was like, do you want to... I bet your heart sank. Absolutely. It's like when someone says, oh, I'm writing a book. Oh, can I send you the script that I'm working on?

No. Actually, script's better than book. Because that's going to be 300. Script you can sort of, you can thumb through in a half an hour. Oh, my God. Anyway, so Heart obviously sang. And then he sent me the next day some amazing... God, he's fucking keen, isn't he?

And then that was, it was literally that. I said to the publisher, found the perfect person, and they were like, are you sure? Some bloke from a party and then uh and they and they said uh in fact they they made him do some sort of squid games style challenge i think where they put him in a room and said draw some lungs doing something funny or something and then they were like oh yeah you're amazing oh wow but he's so so good and and we write it together right i think there's some books where it's quite clear that the two have

never met each other yeah and uh but it's quite collaborative and he'll be like you know is there a bit where you can you know change it so like there's a space for this illustration and i'll say you know blah blah i'll change this and and so it's a long old process it's it's a it's it's a good half year or so of sort of going from the first scribbles to the final drawings so if you ever if you have an idea for it and you go yeah that'll be good because you'll have to be good and go right so what we can have is some lungs that have got a zombie toaster on it and all like that and then you both go yep brilliant do you sort of go oh i just gotta probably get a coffee for an hour then let you crack up because it's all just watching draw it so yeah so he's uh he uh there are quite long gaps when i went up after after deciding

the next 200 illustrations to them having them finally delivered i had to write all the words. Yes, of course. I've had to do 80,000 words. Yeah. The math speaks for itself. I've got a much tougher job. Yeah, of course. But it's just you get to do yours first, so then it feels like you're having a break afterwards, right? Or is it kind of in sync?

It's a bit in sync. So he gets a super early draft, so he can feed into it. And also, he's just a very lovely man. So once Nat was a doctor and Harry Hill was a doctor and you was a doctor, do you all meet up as the ex-doctor comedians? Paul Sinner.

There's a little gang of you? I mean, yeah, there's a lot of us. Chekhov was a doctor. He always comes. Graham Chapman. Oh, yeah. Graham Gardner. Paul Sinner.

Paul Sinner. Paul Sinner. Yeah, who went to the same school as me, 10 years above me. So was that, did you go to Dulwich College? Yeah. Because I'm from South London, so I've gone past it, and it's one of the most impressive buildings and schools and stuff. And like you say, proper high-pressured sort of,

was you bored in there all day? Oh, yeah. There is no more beautiful environment to be humiliated and emotionally destroyed by the teaching staff over the course of a decade it's absolutely stunning place for it to happen it's so intimidating even driving past it you would have listened you would have listened in stockport plaza that's the that's the thing i really would have done was you boarding there then or was you no no no because we we lived around there and so it was just sort of toddled up.

But it was built by, it's basically the same design as the Houses of Parliament, but on a smaller scale. And also it's on the South Circular. So it looks more impressive because it's like block of flats, some normal houses and then Parliament. It's like the estate agents would gloss over that if they were trying to sell you this school. Palatial, grade one listed, mini houses of Parliament.

A bit of road noise, but I mean, other than that... Don't worry about it. Does that experience make you think twice about... Well, not think twice, but like, you've got kids that obviously you're going to, are going to go to school. Is it difficult to take your experience of school out of that in a way? It's, I mean, I do not understand single sex education.

And there is no way in a million years that my, my, my kids would be educated. Like, I just don't understand. Basically I was was you know i didn't meet a girl who wasn't a first degree relative until like a fifth of the way through my life expectancy when i went to university that is bananas how is that how is that right i don't understand the argument i don't understand the the anything about it so i mean that's that's you know that's that's that's for certain and i'm sure the schools are different than they have to be uh to when it was uh yeah then and um and in fact i've um i was invited back to uh to speak at uh speak at my old um school i mean that's

here's here's a weird thing when you get invited to speak at schools a lot but the the bulshiest schools who ask the most are the private schools and so uh you know and they've got they boast about this great program of speakers oh and we had shakespeare here the other day and then dickens and so they've got all and also uh they've they boast about the amazing facilities they've got we've got this 400 seater theatre which is blah blah blah and so what we do now is we say uh yeah we would love to come and speak to your school if you invite all the local local state schools and it's interesting that I mean most of them in fairness do say uh yes and then that's a great event because you know all these kids from all over the area can be in a bigger room than they would have at their school with sort of all the facilities live during but some are a bit like

yeah i'm not sure that's going to work so that's a bit oh really yeah that's in a way you think it'd be a great advert because if you've got any parents locally on the fence that might want to go to private school then they get to have a little day in there and look about it's like an open day but yeah you think so but i mean oh that's a lovely thing to do though because then it opens it up to everyone no of course it's the only way to do because i'm writing for as many people as possible to to read and that and i'm i really advocate for libraries because... They're so important, libraries.

So important. Growing up, sorry to cut you off, but growing up in my house, I've got four brothers. We had a little sort of terraced house, three-bed house. It was busy. There was nowhere to sit because if someone was eating dinner, I couldn't do my work at the dinner table. And there sometimes weren't a space for a desk in our bedroom.

So I used to go down the library and I'd get all my homework done and there was quiet and space, but now they're never open. So, like, if there's people in smaller houses and flats and haven't got a desk to do their work on, they're doing it on their lap or on the bus. They've been cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, and it's heartbreaking. And even libraries within school. A quarter of schools in the most deprived areas of the country,

primary schools, don't have a library anymore. It's mad, isn't it? It's mad, isn't it? It's mad, isn't it? And reading is the fact. We did a book for World Book Day the year just gone. And the thing that sold it to me, the idea that we had to write this book, was the fact that nearly a quarter of kids, the only books that they own themselves are the free books they got for world book day so i grew up you know in a in a privileged environment in all

sorts of ways but one of the ways it was most privileged was the access to books and reading and um uh my my dad said, I'll never forget this, we were in the Glade Shopping Centre in Bromley. In Bromley, big up. Was you living in Bromley then? Where did you live, brother? Yeah, no, we sort of,

but we ended up in Shortland, so in the sort of Bromley sort of hinterland. I didn't know he was a BR brother as well. Look at this, the Glade. Don't ever brag, but I turned on the Christmas lights in Bromley the other day. How was it? If this had gone out before, I think they probably would have booked you if they knew that you were Bromley as well.

Next year. You're talking my fucking language now, Adam. It's amazing that we grew up so close together, but we had very different educational experiences. Yeah. So you're in the glade, sorry. Like a sitcom. Yeah.

Write this up, Rob. So, and I was, you know, gone past some toy shop and I'd said, can I have that? And my dad was like, of course not. And then we got to, we got to a bookshop and he said, any time you ever want a book, you can have it.

And I thought I'd hacked the system. I was like, I found a type of free thing that I have, you know, he would always say yes to buying and he made good on it. And then every time we were by a bookshop, I'd walk in and say, can I have that? And I was like, I don't know why this is working. It's still working. It's happened 20 times. but i was reading for reading for pleasure here's another

you know educational statistic what's something that's almost unbelievable um reading for pleasure when a kid reads with pleasure that's the single biggest determinant of their success in later life more than their education nor more than their socio-economic background more than what their parents do more than anything else it's whether they read for pleasure and that was fostered in in me and i i worry through cuts and through whatever's changing in society that we're we're losing that and so that's that that's why i spend so much of my time writing for kids in the hope that some of them will read for pleasure yeah of course going back to the school that your kids will be in the same school year will they be in the same school

yeah yeah yeah yeah they're um because they're uh they're november and march so that's the right side of september so we're we're thrilled that. So we've moved out to the countryside. Respect. Look, we're living double lives, Kay. Me too. Fuck the big smoke. We've bailed. And there's a wonderful farm school, out foresty nursery place just around the corner.

And we went to look around. In fact, before the kids were born, James emailed. we thought we would have heard about it in the village. And they said, you should check it with them. And James emailed saying, this is probably a bit crazy, but kids aren't even born yet. Is it worth putting their names down? And they replied, quick, quick, quick, we've only got two places left. So we hadn't realised.

Oh, really? So it's still as competitive in the country as it is in the city. Really, really is. But they don't accept the kids until they're potty trained. I don't know if that's a common thing. So it's a nursery school, not the primary school. It's a nursery school. That's a nursery school.

Yeah. And so it's like, how quickly can we make this happen we need to somehow get them potty trained because then we have that that blessed period of hours during the day where we could for example i don't know have lunch and what it's also difficult because you're like when do i consider them potty trained and when do the nursery consider them potty trained because i consider them potty trained now yeah even though we don't own a potty and they wear nappies that's what we call nappies potties in our house and they're trained to shit in there whenever they want so off you go to your little forest

yeah because that's a difficult one isn't it if they if you think they're potty trained and then they go there and they have an accident, are they then going to be re-banned from the nursery? Is there like a sort of lockout period, like a sin bin time? Yeah. What happens? We need to investigate this. So you're planning to sort of send them to nursery and school together

because there was twins at my school where they sent one to one school, one to the other to let them have a bit of independence and have different friendship groups rather than being all in one place. But that seems a bit unnecessary. I think I want them to be pals, obviously. Yeah.

And so I want them to stay in the same room for as long as they can. But I've got them sleeping in the same room at the moment, which I don't... Because they wake each other up like car alarms as soon as one goes off the other goes off and then i'd fuck that off i'd fuck that off i think because they don't know they're sleeping in the same room you can bring them together and then maybe it'll be an exciting thing when they're two and a half that's what it's

up for do you want to sleep in the same room? And they're like, Oh my God, we've been given this opportunity. Yeah. Maybe that's a, yeah. I don't know. I've never, I've never.

You're the twins expert, Josh. My kids, my kids are two years apart and they've always sort of been in their own separate rooms and stuff. But at weekends, I always asked if they could sleep together. We found them like that the other night. Oh, it's a special treat for them now and in matching outfits yeah that's the

best pajamas nothing is cuter than matching outfits is it i know are you doing that a lot because of the twin because in a twin situation are you dressing them as twins we weren't until we realized how cute it looked i don't know i think the gold standard is matching dungarees oh yeah that's like you know you can tell because like we do push them around this on massive great fucking because we're in the countryside so the buggy it's like an isuzu it has to be able to get across the terrain and there's two of them, so it's massive. It's a little... People are always... I can tell

how well we've dressed them, but how often someone goes, oh, look at that. Sometimes they'll just glance in the bucket and just keep walking and sometimes people go, oh, look at them, but I think matching dungarees, 100%. Do you think you're done with two or would you like more? What's your thing? Because it's times people go oh look at them but i think matching dungarees 100 yeah yeah and do you think you're do you think you're done with two or would you like more what's your thing because

it's quite close together did you sort of want to sort of have them and get the young baby stage done and have two kids or so we the idea was that we would we would have them as close together as possible through this surrogacy process. It's known as a tandem journey, apparently, when you have obviously two separate surrogates. But a couple of things happen. IVF obviously involves IVF and IVF doesn't happen first time necessarily. And it did for one and not for the other. And then Ruby was premature by a month and a half or so. And so those things sort of stretched them.

I was very weird going through the IVF process as someone with a little bit of knowledge. Cause I'd worked in that, I worked in that game before. And there was a, there I was as a, as a patient, basically.

I hate being a patient. Doctors make the worst patients because when you're a doctor, you sort of bloody get on with it. And like, you try and like, my dad was a doctor, anything that happened to any of the four of us at home we he would just sort it out like i've got a so there's a scar on my forehead from when he

did a sort of ham-fisted repair of a head injury up in my house and you know i'm pretty sure if one of us had needed dialysis he'd have had a like bloody good go at it with what you find in the shed um so and also and also there's there's now this weird thing which presumably you you definitely have because you know you're you're on telly a lot i avoid telly like the play the only pictures of me are like sort of tiny 12 year old photos of me in the back of a book but i get recognized you know you know once every few weeks and i hate the idea of being recognized in a in a surgery in a waiting room or something that'd be the most mortifying version of of all anyway so but we needed to do ivf it wasn't happening naturally so we needed to do yeah to find another yeah to have these photos made but we need to do this okay

you might have to have a photo with a doctor in talking IVF so and technology has improved a lot in the in the the protein pods uh since it was like magazines when I you know when I worked in uh in fertility units and now we went into this this this place and there was a and there was a there was a there was a tv screen and i was like hey and i turned i turned it on oh and you touched the remote wow because the old cum clicker i had no i had no uh phone reception So I was sort of... That's the problem with the countryside. If you've got a wank in a doctor's office...

Good luck getting 4G, mate. Get back in the memory bank. That's what they don't tell you about moving out of the country. Get to bloody Charing Cross Hospital. That's got some phone reception. So I put it on. The video that was played was quite it was quite specialized pornography right okay yeah and had this been left on by the previous person so i made a mental note to

obviously reset to some kind of home page when i was yeah of course in a way it was sweet that the person in before me was also gay but on the other hand that was about as likely to do the job as an episode of bargain hunt so i sort of canned that and then pressed the remote control nothing nothing nothing nothing presumably you know it had been the victim of hundreds of thousands of quadrillions of spermatozoa who hadn't found their way into the pot and had invalidated Panasonic warranty on the remote control. So you couldn't change it? Couldn't change it. And I had no reception. So, you know, where there's a willy, there's a way.

Got it done just shy of the 20 minutes that also, yeah, being told... I can't do that to mine for 20 minutes. I'd be exhausted. You'd have a full off on that. The clock's running. Anyway, so I get it done just before the time. Also, James is in the room next door

and I hear his door click after about six minutes. He's not there. I get it done. Jimbo's demolished it. James has gone down to the car and then I leave the room and

you put it in the little locker thing and then i'm uh i leave the i leave the the room and i and you put you put it in a little locker thing and then leave it and so and there's a guy you don't have to hand it you don't have to look you don't have to hand it to a person you have to walk out with your own hot cum in your hand yeah yeah um you put in a little locker and then someone collects it and there's a guy in the waiting room and obviously the correct protocol is to stare straight ahead and walk towards the stairs which i did and then a guy uh hadn't read the protocol and goes all right all right loved your book by the way oh god did you how much did you engage nothing at all i just what i should have said and what i realized when I was driving back is I should have not only explained that that wasn't my video, because he's in there,

but the remote control was already broken. So now he's going around with the reverse version of this anecdote, telling people that, you know, he went in the same booth as this Adam Kay former doctor bloke watches little and large fetish porn and draws remote controls. At least you've cleared that up now. I have, yeah, and

your podcast is extremely popular, so it chimes us up. If you've followed Adam Kay into the... If his IVF was successful following that first visit, he's now listening to the podcast and we've squared the circle. Exactly, perfect. And did you have a lot of discussion about um going tandem yes um james is really really close to his siblings uh in age and uh and and in and in life

and uh wanted the dream scenario to be kids as close to each other in ages as possible. We'd spoken to some people with twins who were fucking liars and told us that it was actually, you know, looking after the two wasn't the same as when we had the third one. It was exactly the same. You know, it's just, you know, it's a couple more naps. Well, you know, it doesn't make any difference changing one nappy or two nappies. You're making milk, you might as well make two bottles.

I don't know if they'd forgotten or they were just pranking me. Whatever it was, as soon as we heard that, we were like, yeah, this makes absolute sense. Get it out of the way. Because most of our mates have done you know the you know the thing that you know you've done where you've got you've got one kid and then a couple years later you have another kid and you end it clearly from the outside it didn't look fun having a two and a half year old running around and then a potato just lying there

can't do anything and trying to balance that no stop to get your hands out the oven no no stop that thing we thought when we avoid that everything happens at exactly the same stage but turns out we'd romanticized it and we've been lied to so that was that also as well with the ivf it is a bit more of a lottery so it could fall either way it could be exactly the same time or a couple of months difference or a year difference. So it's not a guarantee, is it? It's a bit more of a lottery.

Absolutely, absolutely no guarantee. And then I missed Ruby's birth. Did you? Yeah. Oh, because she was the premature. She was premature, right? So we were in the theatre. Not the operating theatre we should have been

in we were in the the almeida theater in islington watching uh watching a tammy faye which is the musical about the american tv evangelist um by uh elton john did the music very good well the first 20 minutes were very good i can't comment on the rest of it because james's phone went and and rather than silencing the phone you know which is obviously what you know sort of you know he ran out the theater and i was like this has to be important and so i ran out the theater with him and it was our amazing class going oh god adam case just left yeah he knows wish or i've heard a story about the porn he's into though so i don't know he's a right dirty bastard

absolutely um sorry so you've run out you've run out of the theater i've run out of theater and you know i'll i'll surrogate one of our nicest kindest best people in the world one of our best friends um phoning to say i think my waters have uh just broken and so i've gone to the hospital and and they said they want to deliver in 12 hours blimey and unless there's any sign of an infection unless i start contracting in which case i'm going to want to uh they want to deliver immediately um and so how many weeks in was this sorry this is this was six weeks early so not six six but it's still a shock enough you know we were planning to go out the week afterwards spend some time um spend some time with her and you know after five weeks you know get get the

place ready and get you know buy all the stuff and so jump into a taxi and it's like a film we say heathrow airport and of course oh god yeah because she's in America yeah she's in America we're about she's in Washington DC so at least it's on the right side of the book yeah

I've got East Coast and yeah and and then we realised unlike in the movies we had to do things like go to our house first and get some passports

and a bag for the boat yeah of course so he's like actually don't go to Heathrow go to yeah you can't just go to the airport W.H. Smith and hold up the

book so they wouldn't recognise me from the photo in the back of the book because it's 12 years old and so James goes in and he gets the passport and clothes and I'm on I'm on iScanner looking

for tickets and there's only one seat that will get us out on time. Oh my god. James doesn't believe me, he has a look at himself and there's one seat and worst of all, worse than it being one seat, it's in first class. So I have to pay

fucking for, anyway. As if kids aren't expensive enough there weren't two to but not put you in that decision so so if we you know flipped a coin he went out and i went on the first you know flight the next morning and uh he got there shit face champagne loads of sleep yeah exactly but you got there quarter of an hour before ruby was oh at least one of you made it was born and then it was uh she was very tiny and she was admitted to uh the neonatal intensive care unit um which was obviously beyond stressful and as an ex-doctor though do you find it more stressful or less stressful or

you know it's just your your daughter so you're just you know more stress i don't know a little knowledge is a dangerous thing so like you know the the you know the doctors are saying they're saying she's doing fine and i'm like i've said fine a million times to patients and that's not the best adjective. That's a hedging your bets one. You'd have said something else. And so, but it's a feeling of absolute powerlessness. I would have been powerless even if I was there,

but being on the other side of the water. And anyway, um, James was, you know, so I was on the phone to him the whole time getting updates on, um, on,

uh, Sarah goes doing amazingly on Ruby. Who's doing, did you just go home did you never go to the ether did you so i i went home and then went out the next got the first flight the next morning and i'd been having these constant updates which was which was great and then it was weird as i as i joined the queue for definitely not first class um and said goodbye i was like well at least like there's plain wi-fi so i can

use that uh you know to get updates on on ruby all through the all through the flight said my you know said my prayer of thanks to whoever invented you know the satellites in the sky that would then i realized it was probably elon musk who invented them so i retracted my prayer and then um the flight attendant said you know b, bing bong, unfortunately, Wi-Fi's down. Should have gone first class. I bet it wasn't down on first class. The pilot's talking to the ground somehow. Get me on that one.

Whatever's on, there's ease on. Exactly, yeah. And so I put in my headphones. Sadly, didn't listen to your podcast. Listened to, just put my phone on shuffle. It was a, listen to some Tom Waits, which made me burst into tears.

And I'm not a crier. I think a decade's tears were just coming out. Really? And I cried. The cabin crew came over and said, are you okay, sir? And I was like,

yeah, I'm fine. And I, I don't think they believe me because I didn't stop crying for the entire, like seven hours of the flight. And I cried't think they believed me because I didn't stop crying for the entire, like, seven hours of the flight. And I cried in the taxi and I cried when I met Ruby in this NICU unit. And so it was a – she had a – Horrific experience.

She had a tough start and I had a – I was a rubbish dad because I literally missed the birth. No, you weren't. You mentioned that a couple of times. I've heard you say it in other interviews as well about that. You can't beat yourself up by that. I don't know if you're doing it in jest or you mean it, but you can't be by the surrogate side for nine months in America.

The person who should feel guilty is James. He took the fight. No, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. And you say you can't be there for nine months. We were there so early for Ziggy.

We weren't going to, you know, we weren't leaving anything to him. He was still going to be there for five weeks before. It was just he was unfortunate with the premature birth. You know, we had Tom Skinner on here who missed his child's birth when he was in America and couldn't get home and stuff. But that was his wife went into labour early. So, yeah, don't beat yourself up over that. That's how that happens.

But unfortunately, I shouldn't have said this in these interviews because I could have just lied. She'd have never known. If I hadn't done this, I could have just said it was this magical time. Exactly. Could have posed for some photos after, you know. She wouldn't know the difference between being, what, you look at six weeks premature and two weeks premature?

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But, you look at six weeks premature and two weeks premature. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, there's timestamps on those photos. It would have caught up with you. It would have caught up with you in some way. And then she'd have just been lovely. I just imagine she'd have looked at the photo and said, dog. Adam, we've got time for one last question. It's been absolutely amazing.

Thank you so much. Yeah, thanks absolutely amazing. Thank you so much. Yeah, thanks so much. So much more to talk about. Kay's Incredible Inventions is out. Is it out now? It's very much out now, yeah. It's out now. That's what they say, isn't it?

Amazing. And also, as well, you've got that competition at the V&A we should mention as well. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Adam, Kay and Jan competition. So if you've got a kid who is of an age that they might come up with their own invention, then they can go to littleinventors.org.

And what they do is they send in their idea for an invention and a drawing of it. And then the winning one, as chosen by me and some proper experts, the invention gets made, goes in the actual V&A, and goes into the book as an official invention so that's so that's done with the vna oh that's brilliant um the last question adam uh we ask everyone um about about your partner james um what's the one thing he does we don't always ask about james no sorry i looked up from the book there as if i was like in a waiting room so i was just enjoying the book um what's the one thing james does as a parent

where you're in awe and go oh my god he's amazing i'm so lucky we've got children together and then what's the one thing he does that annoys you and grates away at you and if he was to listen to this he'd you know you might not want to bring it up with him in the middle of a night feed where you're arguing but if he listened with a calm mind he might go yeah Adam's got a fair point there he is endlessly inventive

and I always know the next thing exactly the next thing to do like you know sort of I'm with them on my own for 8 hours in the playroom within 20 minutes the next thing to do, like, you know, sort of, you know, with, I'm with them on my own for, you know, eight hours in the playroom within 20 minutes, we're, we're,

we're playing some, some God awful Elmo music, uh, just cause I've run out of sort of fun things to do. And when I see him with them, he always knows the next thing to do and the thing to play with in the, you know, the imaginary airplane. And he's so good at that and i'm i'm in absolute awe of uh of that he's a he's a really good dad he's just taken to it so naturally he is also the single messiest person i know and i'm including my two children aged eight to twelve months

oh i wish i could deal with that and there's just, you know, I will come back. If I've been away at a gig or whatever, I'll come back. And literally, my first thought is, what's happened? It's like, has someone kidnapped them and ransacked them? What's happened? But no, nothing's happened. He's just got absolutely all of our possessions, put them on the ground empty the kitchen cupboards onto the floor i don't know what he does

so much it takes me so much longer to tidy up the mess than it's taken him to create i don't know what's going on that's because he's being endlessly creative being creative very massive to be creative yes to like get all of our books and stack them in a pyramid or something but it's the messiness is the killer i think that killer it's no it's not it's it's the the killer and it's the motive for his murder fair enough that's okay that makes sense um adam you've been absolutely amazing thank you so much coming on so much adam and we'll have to get you back on when you're a little bit older and you've had a bit more

space and time really enjoyed chatting to you thank you cheers Adam cheers mate bye Adam K there we go

we do these live these outros don't we just straight off the bat yeah just because I just feel like that is that's how I feel let's just bloody get it out of me

no time to just like consider it takeaways from that don't be a doctor if you don't want to be a doctor that's a good yeah good life lesson second one can't believe we're bromley brothers me and adam different unbelievable if you'd asked me which person from around you went to dullidge college i'd have gone tom allen i can't believe he exists in the glades Adam Kay and his dad there you go

that's why I never saw him he was in the bookshop I was in the toy shop right Josh I'll see you next time oh we didn't get to say Rob that what

you got the the Washington DC thing came up and you got to use your new knowledge yeah because that's obviously on the east coast actually isn't it

as it goes there yeah so there we go well done thank you Adam Kay. See you on Monday, Tuesday. Cheers, bye. Whatever, bye. Andy Bush here from Guestimators,

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