Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S8 EP32: LuAnna

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping.

And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Luca, can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett! And can you say Josh Widdecombe?

Josh Widdecombe! Well done, that was so good! It was good actually, I like that one. Solid! Who is it, where they're from? Luca, age 3, saying your names very well. He loved saying your names, name, surname Josh. And kept repeating it all afternoon We love your podcast is now part of my morning listening on a Tuesday and Friday whilst I'm mucking out my horses

People look at me very weirdly euphemism. Well, it's also good for today. There's discussion of horses with Luanna today whilst I'm in Hysterics, thank you for normalizing so many things and helping us through some difficult times of the last three years. My partner and I will always talk about our favourite moments from the podcast. Keep being sexy and reliable. Lots of love from SJ, Nick and Luca East Grinstead in West Sussex. Big up. Mucking out your horses. That's the thing, isn't it? If you've got animals, you had horses, didn't you? My parents did, they still do. They've got a couple, I think. What do they use them for? Do they ride them? Yeah, they'd ride them. I mean, very occasionally, because they were too busy.

You know, it's like, it's quite a thing to go and go and ride a horse. You've got to have quite a lot of time on your hands. It's quite stressful when you see people on a horseback on the roads. Like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

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my experiences in PE we discussed so I was a yo-yo between, we had our PE was streamed top and bottom groups. Okay so was this secondary school? Yeah. Yeah because primarily there weren't a lot of you was you went to a big school. So there was two, there was the year was split in two so I had a top and a bottom in my half of the year. Okay. And on each year I would be either promoted from the bottom for being too good or relegated from the top for not being good enough. And I'm gonna tell you now life is a lot more fun in the bottom group. It's nice being a big fish in the small pond. It's lovely being a big fish. Someone in the bottom group didn't finish the hundred meters Rob. Oh poor sod. I did mine in like 43 seconds. Yeah, if you had to pick your sport and

The best your best act it doesn't mean you're great at it. But yeah, you were you Play for my life on a sport pool What pool like snooker ball? pool Pdol I thought you meant throwing the you know, I know P-double-o-l. Oh, poor, I thought you meant throwing the, you know... Oh, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think that's sport.

That's not a sport. That's a pub game. It would have to probably be football then, wouldn't it? I've never seen you play football. No, I'm not that good, but it's the thing I've spent the most time doing. What's your position? Well, I haven't gone that far. If you were using soccer, where would you play?

Well, I'd start by never shutting up about it, because that's what you're told to do apparently. I'd then do a series of Instagram videos about how I'm training for Soc Raid, even though it's a one-off friendly game. And then I'd play- Take it far too seriously and completely forget the whole point is raising money for charity. Yeah, I'd do that as well.

And then I'd probably play, well'm not fast I think I've got a good engine yeah so maybe midfield midfield yeah okay fair enough but I'm shit that's one of the problems it's hard my problem is stamina I can't keep up I can't do a little bit I like five a side but 11 a side is too much for me. I'm gonna get super fit and I'll stop running. I still don't think now if we can bother doing 11 a side. People get a bit too aggy on Sunday league. Yeah, I hate people like that. You don't wanna be the geezer off the telly

they're booting. I just, the thought of people taking amateur football seriously is just grow up. It's disgusting, isn't it? It's pathetic. He's fucking pathetic. I mean, I still find it pathetic when people get really upset when their football team loses.

So do I. I just like, yeah, obviously you want them to win, but like, and annoyed at the time when the goal goes in, you can kick off a bit, but if it's affecting the rest of your day. If you get home from a football match and your team's lost, if you're angry about...

How are Plymouth getting on? Really badly. No, no, actually we sacked our manager and... Shoot Maka? No, no, he went to Stoke and then he got replaced. Oh, imagine. That's degrading, innit? What? Imagine someone leaving you to go to Stoke. Don't Rob, don't.

Quite genuinely. A big club, a big glamour club's coming. No offence Stoke, but it's not Madrid or Barcelona is it? So who have you got, who did you sack? The guy that replaced him did a bad job. Right, and then are you going to stay in the league? Well since he was sacked we beat Leicester obviously, obviously. We got a 7-1, obviously. But as everyone knows.

Everyone at home got that. She's mucking out at her stable. Yeah, Josh, we know about those results. We've got seven points from four games. It's pretty solid in a relegation battle. And are you going to the Millwall? Yeah, I'm going to Millwall on Saturday with someone I know who supports Millwall.

But you're going to be in a box, aren't you? Have you been? Yes. And will I be able to cheer when Plymouth score? No, no, you're not so I would suggest Maybe wear a hood cover up a bit hide away a bit and then get in the box and if Plymouth score I'd go for a clenched fish little pump under your coat. Well, I don't know I mean I'll be excited But I wouldn't go that far off Yeah, I saw just really cool the football covered in jeez in a box I mean I'll be excited but I wouldn't go that far off. They are sort of just ridiculous with a football covered in jizz in a box.

But yeah, I wouldn't jump up and celebrate, I wouldn't work that way. Okay, okay. But you'll be alright. The way you put it into a plan, I don't think that would be a problem. Bit of fun. Right, shall we get our guests on? Yes, Lou Anna. This is Anna Williamson and Louisa Zisman. Yep. Who are a podcasting duo. They fucking

set the podcasting world alight my friend. Yes. Sold out the Palladium. Their podcast is absolutely hilarious. Anna is also on TV on Slaves Go Dating and is a counsellor. Good show. Like the voiceover. Good show. Like the voiceover. Yeah, Slaves Go Dating voiceover. And Louisa was on The Apprentice, Businesswoman, but now, um, podcaster and lives a mad life in this huge house that we get into. The maddest life we have ever discussed. Yes, I'd say it's the most unique approach to parenting we've ever discussed on the show.

Apart from Russell Kane. Ha! We were both thinking it. Luana, welcome to the show. Do I refer to you both as Luana? Yeah, we are now one. No, we're good. I like that. I like that. It feels like we have now merged into those utter wankers that just sort of, we were a bit like conjoined twins, actually. Well, I worked with Jedwood recently. Oh, well, there you go.

Because my career is really on the up. You have to refer to them as Zedwood because you don't know obviously which one's which. Which one's which? Do they still look the same? They've never deviated from that as they've aged. They look exactly the same. Rob would know the difference between us two seeing as Rob commentates and roasts me on a series basis on Let's Go Dating. Yes Dating. Full intros, Anna Williamson and Louisa Zissman together create Luanna, the global sensation Palladium Selling Out podcast. That's very global sensation I'll take. We will take that boys.

Well listen, we're just following in your footsteps. I mean, you know, you're the agents. And we're just following in the Ramsey's footsteps. That's how it works. That's how it all works. It's the same shit, different podcasts, and we're all winging it. Can we have a rundown of what you've got at home?

So Anna, how many kids you got? What are their ages? So I've got Miss Brogs. I mean, I do like it when you call me a MILF. Not gonna lie, Rob, on Slabs Go Dating. Keep it coming. I'm perimenopausal now. Is that okay?

It's not so disrespectful to call you a MILF. Don't get on the peri. I want the MILF, but I'm now a PERIMILF. What's a PERIMILF? PERIMENOPOSAL MILF. You need to be in the know about PERIMILF. You've lost me. What's happened now? PERIMILF sounds like a French restaurant.

PERIMILF sounds like something Hernando's. When you fancy the waitress. PERIMILF? That Perry Mill sounds like something Hernando's. When you fancy the waitress. Perry, Perry Mill. Perry Mill. So I've got, so I've got Vincenzo, who is seven, and I've got Eleonora, who is four. So I have... Because you said Perryman and Pauly, then you said Vincenzo. I thought Vincenzo was something as well then.

But he's actually a... I've got a case of the Vincenzo at the moment. Vincenzo is the boy. I think you've actually, you've seen, oh no, you didn't meet him. You've seen my daughter at the Bluey thing that we went to at Christmas time. Oh, I was at that? I know, I saw you there, George.

I couldn't bear anything like that. Bloody Bluey. Do you not like Bluey, Louisa? No, I don't like children personally. And I also don't like any children's TV shows. And I have no idea how I ended up having children. Yeah. So how old are yours, Anna?

So mine are seven and four. So I'm a boy and a girl, mum. I've got one of each. Right, and then Louisa, how old are you? You've got three, is that right? Yeah, I have a 13 year old, 13 and a half, who is going on 23. And then I've got a seven year old and a 13 year old, 13 and a half, who is going on 23. And then I've got a seven year old and a six year old.

I've basically never not been a mum in my adult life. I was telling someone that. Me. How old was you then when you had your first? Was it you? It was me. I was just, just 23. I was young.

Have I got this right that you've got different rules for your 13 year old than you have with your younger ones? Yeah, I've changed tact. I made all my mistakes on my 13 year old and it's gone too far. I can't backtrack now. So I'm like, okay, that was like the warmup kid. So.

Can I say, her 13 year old is the the most delightful wonderful young lady. She was like the warm up kid though. You know that and you're like, I'm not going to do that with those next ones. Because what did you which way do you think you went wrong? I think probably like not strict enough. Okay, she's a good kid. You know, she's like a great kid. She's really nice, but she's quite a she's a very grown-up 13 year old and sometimes

I think maybe because I was like a single mom and it was just me and her and she was always surrounded by adults Maybe that's why you know, she probably had tick-tock and snapchat and I wouldn't get get my little ones a phone When did she get a phone then when when she went to secondary school near seven and so what's good? The rules gonna be for the younger ones? I'm just not going to get them a phone. I'm just going to be like, I don't care about what your friends are doing. But I think we know now that how damaging that is to kids. And honestly, it is, I don't know, how old are your kids?

Eight and six. So they want phones, but way too young. What are yours, Josh, as well? What are your kids ages? Six and two. They haven't got into phones yet, but they're fully aware that we like our phones too much. Yeah. But I think now, like us with the age that all our younger kids are, we know, like, not to get them Snapchat, not to allow the TikTok now. Whereas with her, we didn't really know that.

Kids are just so desensitised now to all the content they're seeing. It's really worrying. So yeah, I sort of tend to... To be honest, it's quite useful having this friendship with Lou because I am watching all of the mistakes and then I'm learning from that and going, and that's what I'm not going to do. And I'm going to follow this path over here. So it's a wonderful friendship.

Yeah, because Lou, you're doing basically the two complete opposites now. So Anna and your younger ones are still older than Anna's ones. So you can watch both approaches and then pick your choice, Anna. Just don't do anything like me, basically. Exactly. And it's tricky as well because I, you know me, I wear many different hats, but one of them being, you know, with my counselor hat on is children's counselor. And as an NSPCC and child line counselor, it's really, it's a whole different ball game when you've got your own kids. It's so different having your own.

It's so much easier to, to, you know, listen to and deal with and therapy children that aren't yours. But when you have your own, it's terrifying. When you say you're a child line counselor, were you sat on the end of the phone and kids would phone you in distress. Not lose youngest she's not allowed to. No chance. That's why they're not allowed them. I remember I used to say to my parents when I was younger I'm gonna call child line. And is that how you two met? Yes. You were really getting on on child line you You're like, should we actually turn this into a podcast? Yeah, she was our top returning client. Yeah, but I was, there was something really quiet.

I mean, it's such a special, such a special helpline, but yeah, there is nothing more eye opening than being on that phone when, when they are ringing in, in all kinds of situations. So it's definitely character building, being a child-wired counselor. It's really cold in the studio. Can we put the heating on? Do you know what? I was really hot because I'd been puking

and now I've got like this weird cold shiver. We can all blame children. I mean, the children have all gone back to school. Hurrah. But we get all the bites. I feel ill by the end of Easter. I'm just knackered. Yeah, I'm too tired.

These holidays go on for too long. Like my kids have 10 weeks off in the summer. Ten weeks? It's private school. But honestly, they're never at the bloody school. That's true. So I say to her every time, because my go to state school, she goes to a nice little village Catholic primary. And whenever she's saying, are your kids back at school? I went, yes, they are, baby. Who's winning here? How long do they get off for Easter your kids? Four weeks. Four weeks? They're never at school boys. Is it a boarding school? Yeah my eldest boards for three nights a week yeah like because everyone boards it's like the culture of the school. It's all very like. I'm fascinated by this. I begged my parents to go to a boarding school. I wanted to go to the one where you take your horse

and they let me basically. Well, we didn't have enough money. Did you have horses as a kid? I didn't own my, I've got horses now, but I didn't own my first horse until I was 15 and I had to get a job to pay for the horse. Like I wasn't, my parents were comfortable, but not like loaded.

And so do you two talk a lot? Would you discuss parenting techniques and stuff and give each other tips or do you feel like you're... Yeah, no, I think what's quite interesting about our relationship and people often say this to us, like some people go, oh my God, you're so wildly different, but yet there is such a thread of similarity between you two, which there really is. And actually when it comes to parenting, we are, I think, really aligned. I think Louisa is probably the most aligned friend I have when it comes to parenting. I mean, she will joke about, you know, the kids.

But I see behind closed doors. And this is what I love about Louisa. She doesn't really care what anyone thinks, as we always know. So she doesn't feel she needs to show off to Instagram to tell everyone what a great mum she is. She knows she's a good mum. We're all failing as parents. We're all failing at winging. But I'd say we're both very, our kids hang out quite a

bit and they love each other and we're both very, we're both into routine. We're both into strict, you know, being routine, strict discipline. We're both very loving and hands on with the kids. You know, we're just winging it. I mean, we fail all the time, as you say, but I'd say we're quite similar in our techniques. When I've had issues with my eldest, which I've been frequent, I do, I've messaged you quite a bit, like, oh, what should I do? She's done this now, or we're going through this. And I always thought, like having little kids was so hard. but I feel like little kids are physically exhausting and not so much mentally exhausting because Well, they're just not that smart. Yeah, are they but as they get older the mental and emotional

Strain is the needs of being a parent is is really tough. Like it really is like parenting a teenager, especially a girl. I don't know if what, if yours about all three of mine. The girls and I are really tough. Like boys are much simpler creatures. I have to say actually with the teenagers actually, I think that's probably where a lot of my background, my child line background comes in for way back in 2009. That's when I trained there there but does come in because

that would be the typical demographic that I would deal with so I think it's so much easier being kind of a friend's parent when you need that someone that actually cares about you like I really care about Louise's kids like genuinely and so I want that you know what the best for them but sometimes you're too close as the parent yes but also you know what you're you are you're, you are a proper, I know as much as we, you know, we do celebs go dating again, which is sort of silly and fun, but you are a proper trained counselor and a professional. And even on that show, you can switch into, you know, sensible head and proper advice kind of stuff. So it must be great, you know, for your friends that they can mess around and then get free counseling for the kids.

Do you know what, it is, it is, well well yeah, I mean, Paul and I always joke on celebrities go dating with a celebrity sign up, you know, it's just get, get thousands of pounds worth of free, of free therapy, but it, but it is a vacation and you'll know Rob, I mean, you see the, you know, all of the footage, you know, and it's, but it is something that I genuinely love, whether it's my friends, whether it's celebrities, it is, I think anyone that works in the world of therapy, it's just ingrained. You know, I'm a people person. I'm naturally curious. I naturally, uh, but I'm

so well trained as well to be very boundary with cause people that's if you're carrying all this stuff about people, your brain would explode. And this is why it's so important. So I say to anyone that wants to get into this field is make sure you do the correct training because you're trained to brain dump it. Cause otherwise you'd go start raving It's so important, what I say to anyone that wants to get into this field, is make sure you do the correct training because you're trained to brain dump it because otherwise you'd go start raving mad. Yeah, I couldn't do it. When you're counseling someone, I've always wondered this,

if you've got various clients and are there ones where you're like, this person's a fucking Warrinko. I can't stand this person. She's not gonna say yes to that. I can answer that honestly. No, not name and shame. I mean, but are there ones where you go, I actively don't like this person?

Yeah, you do get definitely more challenging ones. And would you carry on working with them? No, you would. She ditches them. Well, I would say ditch. I would say you refer on. No, you refer on. Ethically, you have to be able to connect.

The underpinning role of a therapist is rapport. You have to have rapport with your clients. So if I'm not fit and actually sometimes that's, and again, that's why it's important to have the right training because you have to recognize when you're not doing your best work. And actually, I'll be honest with like celebs go dating, you know, sometimes, you know, you do you warm to some celebrities more than others at times. I couldn't warm to any of them.

Well, I'd say most of them are nice, but there are some that are saved by the edit. Oh, aren't they just? And by you. And by you. We've all been saved by the edit, Rob. We've all been saved by the edit. I feel like I get fucked by the edit. You get fucked by the editor. I feel like I get fucked by the editor. You get fucked by the editor. I don't do TV anymore.

No, that really is me. You just can't edit that. You can't. But I think that's in a way why I love it even more, because that is every counsellor's... You know, you need to be pushed. You know, it shouldn't be easy. You should have people that jar and that challenge you more and make you think outside the box and take on different skill sets to try and get into that person. So that's why I love coming back to the series time and

time again. So with your kids, how do you like help them with their like, I know they're still young, but they're sort of, you know, like at school, there's all that stuff about, you know, friendship groups and all these things that kids really care about, but we all know is complete bollocks and in the ground skill thing means nothing. No, but it's so big in the world. It's so real to them. How do you manage that? Well, I mean, funnily enough,

my boy, he's recently just got glasses. Oh, he's so cute. He actually kind of looks a bit like Josh. He does look just like Josh. Anyone that wants to know what my boy looks like, he looks like Josh. He does actually. But as you say, it's so amazing. He doesn't sound like him, does he? Thank God.

Very similar. But as you say, it's such a huge deal. He's seven and a half. And we took him to the opticians. And today actually was the first day he's gone in with his new bins. Oh my God, that's huge. It's huge. But it's huge. He likes his glasses. No, and Anna was at mine at the weekend with all the kids and we do this thing. It's meant to be once a year. Somehow I've been lumbered with doing it twice this year. But everyone comes to my house. Kids and we all like bed down and then they were like getting to their little beds on Saturday night and he didn't have his glasses on and I went where's your glasses because if they're not on their face

they should be in the case. I was like oh my god you fucking lose a mum. Like seriously what are you raising? He's not going to be cool kid. We need to like, stop saying that to the kid. He's already got glasses. He's already on the back foot. Yeah, you might maybe say, put them in the case when you're not wearing them, but I don't think he needs a slogan. She's like, done a fucking jingle.

A slogan, it's a jingle. Also, no glasses wearer is putting them back in the case. I don't know. That is, no, I don't even, do you know where your glasses case is, Rob? No, no glasses wearer is putting them back in the case. That is, no, I don't even, do you know where your glasses case is, Rob? No, no idea. No, I haven't seen it since the day I put my glasses on. Where are your glasses, Anna, today?

Wait, look. She's got a case. If they're not on the face. If they're not on my face, they go in the case. My glasses went a bit wonky, right? So I went into the sunglasses out of the airport, said, have you got any screwdrivers or little things to sort it out?

Oh yeah. And she went, I'll pass me the glasses. So I took them off like that with one hand. She was like, no, no, no, that's not how you take glasses off. Stop. You must always, with two hands. No way. And forward, and I was like, why is this fucking serial killer, mate?

I can't go into a meeting like, just gonna take these off like that. I'm not gonna take my glasses off. She's saying that's why your glasses are wonky, because of the way you take them on and off. Yeah, but I'm glad you're on glasses. She's saying that's why your glasses are wonky, because of the way you take them on and off. Yeah, but I've got time to do a double-hander. Oh my god, I don't want to get into private life. It's not that big.

Double-hander, you wish. Lucky Lou. Half-hander, half-hander. Lucky Lou. So you are totally different. We've established that. Why? How have you ended up doing? Like, how did you meet? We were, we met on, Pregnant.

Pregnant. I mean, we were both, both our, We were on Big Brother's bit on the side. Two of our kids are like four weeks apart in age. And yeah, it was Big Brother's bit on the side. I was the psych. I thought you were going to say I was the size of a house. I was like, she was. She was massive. I was mad. Well, that's actually, that was my, the first sentence

that Zisman ever said to me, but this is why we get on. So I mean, for anyone that knows me, you know, and you'll know Rob as well from some of my rather lewd antics and love of flatulence. But I'm such a tomboy. I grew up with brothers. So I can take a joke, I rarely get offended by anything. I have a pretty thick skin. And I was the resident psych on Big Brothers, but on the side and Louisa had been on Celebrity Big Brother as a contestant and was doing the panel show.

We met in the green room. We were both heavily pregnant. And I was, I gave birth two days after doing that show. I was having contractions like on the show. While she was doing it. I, she walked into the green room. She took one look at me and she went, oh, you're massive.

And I was like, brilliant. There it is. The best thing to say is a pregnant person. Yes I am. And it, and it- No, she was massive. Anna's very small. She's like really petite person.

And people always think whenever anyone meets you, they're always like, Oh, you're like way smaller than I thought you were. And where she's so small, it was just like a big ground. It was, I was out there as I was as wide as I was high. Yeah. Like she was real. It was like you were like a bot. Oh, some miserable old bitch wouldn't told me when I was four, I was 12 days overdue and she went oh we're carrying triplets are we? Fuck off. I know. Fuck off. But yeah we are wildly different. There was a lot of water. There was a lot of water. It was only £7.3 but we met sort of really through that and then it just turns out you know happy accidents. We actually realized we lived

very near each other. Um, and we had the babies at the similar time. Louisa reached out to me. I didn't have any mom friends cause I hadn't had a baby before. Oh, I had terrible post-sale depression. Like postnatal psychosis. She went fucking mental, like legit. And I was like, are you okay? And just checking in on her because I obviously had already had a kid and I had had postnatal depression with my first child, not with my second because I stuffed the shit up for that one. I was like maternity nanny 24 seven, like I'm not going through any of those sleepless nights ever again. And, but I like quite a lot of help then with your kids. Not the first.

That's why I was so depressed. It was the worst thing I ever did. I was like 23 and had no clue what I was doing. And then I had this child and my ex-husband was the worst ever. And he was just like, no, he wasn't great. No, he wasn't great. And then, you know, they're like, oh, you should be breastfeeding.

No, it made me so depressed, breastfeeding. I don And then, you know, they're like, Oh, you should be breastfeeding. No, it made me so depressed breastfeeding. I know some people love it and it releases all those endorphins. For me, I hate breastfeeding. I'm a massive advocate for not breastfeeding because I feel like it made me so depressed. And I know that there's so many women that feel like, Oh, we've got to like get the nipples out all the time. I know my friend Katie, she's like earth mother and I love her to bits actually. We're really good friends, but her kid would only feed on one boob and in the end I was like, you got to stop doing this because that poor one boob it was like, well you get lopsided tits. Mine are lopsided.

No, and her nipple just went dead in the end. And she used to wear the baby in a sling all the time. And I'd be like, you've got to get that kid out of the sling. Like, this is not working for you. But it was working for her. And then the kid would just pull out the nipple. And it was like, you know, Inspector Gadget. And he's like, her nipple was like... Like an elastic band.

And the kid would pull out this nipple. Like a loom band bracelet. And I remember being in Ireland with her. And was one of my kids Christening's and she was just standing talking to people and the nipples there was like even no boob there even in the end the kid had sucked everything out of her and I was like babe you are just talking to all these people at this christening and you cannot feel your nipple and it's just out and like nobody said anything and I was like you need to yeah I was like you need talking to all these people at this christening and you cannot feel your nipple and it's just out and like nobody said anything and i was like you need to yeah i was like you need to stop this now this is not good it gets mentioned a lot on this podcast you know but if people are enjoying

breastfeeding it's working for them fine but if it's making you depressed and hurting you then and but i think i don't know people just get really weird around breastfeeding. Like you say, my first one actually was the same. It actually, it actually improved my post-signal depression when someone else could feed him on formula. Cause it gave me a chance to actually recover and repair from this horrendous birth. But then my daughter, second one, I really wanted to try breastfeeding. And I thought, I'm not going to give myself any pressure on it. If I do, I do. If I don't, I don't. It worked fine the the first time But actually I found myself have a real urge to do it with her. Yeah, I only did it for about eight weeks But I really did enjoy it and then then it was just to be honest much easier for everybody all around

You know Let's go dating I did so I Did that yeah, it's good for the you know That your partner to be able to help and do stuff as well and be involved in it. So, because you said you had a tough time your first and then the second two, you staffed up. What does staffing up mean? It's more nannies than kids! There's more nannies than kids!

There's only more nannies! Which does make me laugh because there was a point actually very recently where I had three nannies and three kids. The nannies out ratioed the actual children. So what situation are you at now? No, I have two nannies. Two nannies, right. But they don't work at the same time. No, no, they don't work at the same time unless like I have friends over and then I draft

a lot of nannies in so that my friends can come and relax. Like this weekend we have of nannies in so that my friends can come and relax. Like this weekend we have a few nannies here because we, you know, I just, I just, yeah, I just think why not? To be honest though, like, Louisa's house is, it's, it's, this is something like, I always say about Louisa's house where we are at the moment, where our podcast studios, it is the, it's the reality show that I think should be made that will never be made. But this is a household like no other because if you work here, you don't really work here. You're just part of the family. And so it's a very, it's like a commune. It's like put your car keys in the fruit bowl, pick them out. There's no sex though. I just want to add to that. There's no swinging that goes on. It is the most, it's really odd when you describe it because people can't really understand it. What about the new cleaner recently?

Oh my god. So this is, so the running joke on our podcast, on the podcast is that, so I do not live in a house like this, but I have been named. How big is it? It's quite big. Describe the house. It's like, well, I can, have you ever big is it? It's quite big. Describe the house. It's like... Well, have you ever been to Champneys?

Yeah. I've made it. So I call it Champneys 2, because this is not a joke. It's the size of Champneys. It's a running joke. When I turn up at the house every Monday, when we do our podcast, I say, I'm arriving at Champneys 2.

Because it is, you know, imagine the Jurassic Park theme tune as well. Da da tune as well. As I arrive through the gate, the gates open majestically. I just drive down my driveway by the way. And then sort of the house then a bit like Downton Abbey just suddenly comes into view as you drive down the driveway. And then so Ronnie J. was, I mean, I've clearly got my feet well and truly under the table here. They know what Anna's drink is. So the housekeeper back, do you want your cappuccino, Annie?

Oh boy. Annie, extra hot. I've got my own toilet here. I have fully made my own bed in this house. Sorry, we need to ask the toilets. I need to drill down into I've got my own toilets here as a sentence. What does that, no one else allowed to use it or? Well, not at the same, not at the time I arrive. You know, at 9.30 on the dot. I've got my own toilet everywhere I go. I do not share a toilet. Every Monday and it comes to shit in my house.

But I'm using it. That is my house. Yeah, exactly. Not here. It's the commune. You're never safe. No, and I have a faith. She having a shit someone could piss through your legs if you opened up enough, basically. Yeah, basically. So no, I'm quite particular about the toilet I like to use and then the other day it just goes to show how I don't like that toilet. I love that toilet. How over familiar I have become with

this house and the vast staff payroll because I came in the other day, I just let myself in, and there was a new member of staff that had arrived on her first day. And so the housekeeper went, Oh, Anna, this is so and so. They've just joined the team here. I was like, Oh, welcome to the family. I did a full speech. I was like, welcome to the family. You'll find this is a very, very warm and friendly household. High expectations, but maximum rewards. You'll see a lot of me. I'm here quite a lot. Then I came I was like have a lovely day then I came into studio then Louisa came and asked me she went oh I've just met the new cleaner I went yeah I have done so I am meeting her staff before her to give them the royal the royal welcome to the house. How many in the team? 15. Wow. I'm like creating jobs over here. I don't know what everybody else is doing.

No I'm not, it's a big number. I'm not criticizing for you. So you've got two nannies, you've got housekeeper, cleaners, gardeners. Yeah four housekeepers. Yeah. Four gardeners, two grooms, four grooms, two... estate managers. Estate manager, yeah. Two grooms, horses. They look after the horses. Right. I didn't know what that was. Just in case you've got a couple of single mates coming around that want to get married off. Got married at first sight. Got the grooms waiting to go to the? Married at first sight, here they are. Yeah, so there's a lot. It's like a madhouse.

Yeah. Do they just come and go free? Like? Like we have a staff car park. But what I mean is if you walk down the stairs in the morning to make if you walk down the stairs in the morning to make a cup of tea, is there a chance there's are you confident that there's not no one? I can't walk around my own house naked if that's what you're asking. Yeah, because there's always a. So at 8 a.m., everybody comes and then obviously

they have keys and the house is opened up. Right. And then that's it. And at the weekend... It's almost like living in a shop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Basically, and you hear, like you hear people and I'm like, oh. But that's why, so my parents live in, because they've got a house like an annex house attached to the ground yeah and we knocked we knocked through the pantry so we can walk through our house into their house through and our studio is in my parents house because so you are making sacrifices you've lost the wall of the pantry there and and then our little studios in there because it's quiet right?

It's my house, it's really noisy. And it's brilliant because I basically hate people in my house. I like to have no one in my house. I'm very anti-social. Tell us about your house. How many staff, Anna? Oh, last count. I think there were, I love where I live. We have a joke on the pod that, you know, because I live in the granny pad. I just sound like an arsehole because we call Anna's house the granny pad. No, but I love my granny pad. It's in desperate need of a renovation. It's been needing a renovation since 1970. It really has. There's not much of a granny pad.

It really has. But I, but you know, but that's the thing. This is what it gets. You know, I am so happy for Louise. She's too indecisive. That's why it's not had a renovation. Louise's life is wonderful. And I'm genuinely like good for you, Lou. It isn't what I would want. Truly, I love my, I would. I love dipping into it.

It's wonderful. I think it's wonderful. Genuinely, it's brilliant. But there's no envy there. And I think that's why also the friendship is very strong, because we're always gassing each other up, we're always supporting each other and like you do you honey and where I live, so I live about 20 minutes from Louisa, you know a beautiful little village.

The cutest, like it's like Emmerdale but nicer because it's town town. And I'm all about the country, the funky life so yeah we have like a little four-bedroom cottage which is like Lucid, a very desperate need of renovation. It's grade two listed conservation area. We finally got planning, but we, oh, who knows. You know, like the old villages where there was like the post office, the saddler, the cobbler, the butcher, the baker. Ours is one of those.

And yeah, so hers is like one of those, like the butcher's house, you know, and it's so chocolate boxged and there's like a little river that you can walk or drive through. So this obviously you've got this unique living situation that is not sort of the norm, so how do you feel about your kids growing up in that? Because obviously it's so different to what you had. Yeah, do you know what, I'm actually really conscious of that to be totally honest with you, it's not what I had. We didn't have it even have a cleaner growing up and it's really hard so I make the kids they make their beds I

will I make my eldest do her own laundry like on it you know when she comes home from school and because at school they do their laundry as well. They're doing more than my kids Rob. They've got 15 staff my children don't make the fucking beds. No, every day the kids have to wake up. No, my kids I have to say have been trained since they were like two, they will make their beds and they'll lay their little teddies out. And they're on Super King so it takes them fucking ages to be fair. It does, one of them is. And so she's the best one, that one with the biggest bed. And you know, I make them... They have to tell their own cleaner where to clean in their room as well.

Oh, like, they empty the dishwasher, they'll always like, you know, put their plates away. I try and get- They're gonna put people out of work here, Louisa. There's people who need to do this. I know, I made my eldest yesterday because she was still off school because they never go to that school.

You know, I made her go out and like muck out the horses and then I'll pay her to water the plants on a weekend and stuff like that. So I do try, but it is hard. But I think that it's hard for any parent nowadays, despite like the fact that, okay, we have this weird living situation. I think any parent struggles nowadays to help their kids contribute. I call it contribution to the household. So I'm like, if you're living here, you have to contribute to family life. Like we're not your slaves and you can't just leave, you know, and unfortunately in my house, if they

do leave something and we have this, like my friends will come over and they'll be like, Oh, my jumper's gone. And I'll be like, Oh yeah, it's been tidied away basically. And it will be hanging in my wardrobe or cause you cannot put something down because it's moved straight away like the house is immaculate. But it's, you know, in any way, shape or form, we shouldn't be picking up after our kids. Like they have to contribute whether they are to like, and there are chores and I'm a great believer in doing chores. And I feel like you have to teach them from an early age to work almost. And you've got to grind for everything, right? So even from two, there are chores that I would have your kids doing at two years

old that are age appropriate. I will do washing. I'm like, honestly, I get up normally. I get up at quarter past four in the morning. I'm in the gym at five because it's the only piece I get in my house. Right. So I have like four hours to myself. Yeah. And I go to the gym at five and then I finish in the gym by six. And then normally I'll go to the laundry room. I'll do some laundry and like, because I, and then, because also I don't want like the, the, the people that work for us to judge me and feel like I'm lazy. So I will never like if

I'm, I have been quite poorly recently, so I was bed-bound, I couldn't walk basically, I had a really bad back. So I had to spend. How is your back? It was quite bad back to them, wasn't it? Yeah, no, I broke my back and I didn't realise it. It's like everyone's like, how did you break your back and not realise? I thought I broke a couple of ribs. So I was like, oh, just carry on. Like you can't do anything for that. And I actually broke my back and then it, I think it just caused a lot of weakness. And then I had bulging discs and then but my back's good. I had I had all my spine injected. Great, great neuro spinal surgeon. So I'm

back. I'm fighting fit. Well, not to have any puking. But anyway, we're like 10, 11. Wow. Quarter past four. If I had 15 staff, I'd be getting up at midday. Just saying that. Josh, if you had 15 staff, you'd be so stressed and awkward around them. You wouldn't be able to... You would just... Oh, don't... Can you do that? But don't do that. I'm sorry. Do you know, I'm the same. I really struggle with people in my house.

Yeah, but I used to. I'm micromanage. I'm terrible. Like I remember our old house and I'd never had like a housekeeper before and then I didn't like her and I said to my husband, oh, you've got, you've got a sucker. Like I don't like her. And he was like, I'm traveling. You have to do it. And bearing in mind, I had a business where 30 people worked for me.

Like I had a, had a big warehouse. I was used to managing stuff. I could not do it in my house. And I was like, oh, I'm really scared. And I made my mom like a sack this woman with me because she was like not good. She wasn't working out for us. And I was like really scared.

But now I'm like much more assertive because you have to be. You get used to it. I'm Natalie Cassidy. And I've been wanting to do a podcast of my own for a very long time. And here it is. I'm going to be talking each week to family, friends, most importantly, you. I want to talk about the issues that are bothering me, things that make me smile, and how we get through that washing basket without having a nervous breakdown. This is a podcast for the general public,

for the normal people. So get on board, become part of my community, and let's have a laugh. So you're gonna get the kids to contribute to the household. So what happens when exams come around and careers? Because if you are sat in this sort of mega house with all these people working for you, you sort of think, well, it doesn't really matter what I do in my exams because I think I'll probably be

all right. Do you know what I mean? No, that's not okay. Like I repeat this to my child. It's like an abbreviation, like Bill Gates where you don't basically give your kids anything. So I always say to my like elders, I'm like, when you're 18, like you need to sort your life out, like get a student loan, go to university. I don't believe in this gap year bullshit, go and fucking live your life when you're 18. You need to get a job or go to university. Like I make her, she's not great at it, she's only been a couple of times to be honest, but I'm really good friends with my local pub landlord

and she goes and polishes the cutlery on a Sunday morning. She's only done it twice, but she's only 13. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah. Like you'll give her like six pounds an hour and I'm like, oh, children do you need to. Six pounds, didn't it? They have to learn. It's hard work. So you're going to cut them out at 18 basically is the plan. I will not like get, the only thing that I will do, because I think it gives independence is get my kids a car and driving lessons when they're 17. I will do that. But I'm not like, my kids know, like they're not getting some kind of monthly allowance

from me. Like, why should I do that? I didn't have that. Like they need to work. And I'm, but I'm, I believe in hard work and in graft and yeah, there's no way I would be mortified multi-generational wealth. No, thank you. I remember having a job at 1516 and it was the best. And you know, I remember I worked in McDonald's, I cleaned Lou's, you know, and actually that having, you loved working

in McDonald's. I actually, not, not as much. Yeah, I left. I didn't like that. It was the toilets. I like it was the toilets. I like cleaning, but I think it's really important that, um, regard, I mean, let's be honest guys, you know, we all do these weird and wonderful jobs, right? And I guess we're all in a fairly privileged position through our own hard graft. You know, I don't think any of us have landed in, you know, our careers have landed in our laps. We have hustled for it, right?

And we all love our kids and we want to, you know, give them as much as we possibly can. But you know, I, I am a huge believer in work ethic as well because you've got to give, funny enough, actually go back to the counseling thing. I, there's a lot of very, you know, wealthy, but like you said, Rob, you know, if you've got nothing to strive for, if you've got nothing to work towards, or you're being measured against a parent success, you are just in this sort of vattings void of doing nothing. And I remember loving earning my £2.73 an hour at Matthew's, you know, because it was my money and my mum and dad couldn't tell me what to spend it on because it was mine. And I think that is such an important, I'm the same with my children,

actually at seven and four, you know, they, you take your dinner, even down, just take it, you know, your plate to the kitchen and you know, it's just, you know, make your bed and they're not going to do it brilliantly. But again, it's just that especially with a boy, I find, I find bringing a boy up to make him clean the toilet or that pee everywhere. I find that a particular responsibility actually being a boy mom, you know, especially, I think boys get such a bad rap nowadays, you know, they have a very unfashionable gender, I think men in general, you know, and I do have a real... The father of two girls, I hate boys. Well, there you go.

So I never wanted boys and I have three girls, I really didn't want a little boy because there's such a weight of responsibility, I feel, raising a boy. Right. Do you think, Anna, that Louisa will go through with cutting them out of all the money or do you think it's big talk? There will be no money. I spend a lot. I know how well Louisa is and her husband they are they are extremely kind generous people you know and as you know people. I joke about, you know, swatting around chapneys, but they are very, very kind. They're both grafters. Neither

of them were born into a privileged lifestyle. And they're only at this point now through their own hard graft. Individually, everyone thinks, oh, Louisa's just married a massively rich guy, which that may as well be. But I think I think you're right. I think it's a halfway house between big talk. But also, I know you and the way the way you and your husband parent your children is you do not want entitled children that have nothing to strive for. I think you'd be failing your children because I feel like I really want to raise children with that hunger in their belly,

that fire that that want to achieve and to strive to achieve. And I think as human beings, well, we're quite like, I would say high achievers, not in a sense of like financial, but I find yeah, I always have to be doing something and achieving something, whether that's, I don't know, just competing my horse. This podcast, you don't need to be doing a podcast really. You could just float around with your horses and not do anything, but you enjoy creating stuff and making it and things like that, which is a good example to set, I think. And I think you have to instill that in your children, like that hunger and that drive,

because I just, what are you if you're not, what are you going to do in life? You're just going to like go, you're just a blah. You might as well be a little slug. Like, you do not, I mean, they're just like, you're a nothing. And I feel like I want them to have that fire in their belly to that, that drive and that like want to constantly move forward and achieve like whatever that is. Now I wouldn't really support a degree in any of the arts even though we do work in the industry. Yeah but I just feel like I'm not going to pay for that. No. Like a vocational. Even if one of them wanted to go to an acting school. I bet it's a real passion of theirs. Yeah. I don't fucking care. Go and get a

job and pay for your hobby then. If they don't want a sort of certain level of money, if they're quite happy to sort of not earn as much but follow a passion they love, surely you'd rather them be happy in something they love than, oh, they've got a title as an engineer. No, it's not about the title of being an engineer. I think that nowadays, some really old fashioned, I think we focus a lot on like, Oh, you've got to be so happy and what you do all the time. It's called work for a reason because fucking hard and you should work and then you get money to pay for the shit you enjoy. And honestly, that is how I feel about work. And I look, I'm lucky. I like my job and enjoy it. But

I don't always think that you have to constantly be this euphoric happiness about what you do because you've got to know what hard graft bloody is. And so I don't buy into that school of thought that, oh, you've got to really do something that you're passionate about. No, you don't. You've got to work and earn money and then do like a hobby if you feel so passionate about that. Go and join like a frigging part-time acting theatre in your provincial town and great if you get lucky like so many people go and they do all these bullshit degrees and then they're like slashers I call them slashers because it's like oh what do you do I'm an actor slash

working a bar slash clean toilets slash there you know you go to LA or what do you do well well I'm an actress model but but what do you do oh I like work in a shop which is fine but you can't be a slasher for your whole life like at some point you you have to like you know there needs to be a moment in time where someone's given the opportunity to try sure if it's 55 not on my watch not on your watch your watch. Not on my payroll. I get what you're saying though, you go to work and you get the money for the shit that you want. But the variable there can be the shit that you want. So if you don't want that much, then you can do a job that doesn't bring as much in if your needs are smaller. True. Yeah,

if you're happy with that. But then don't, like I don't want them. If they want to do that, my kids, they can do that. But don't come knocking on my door to like top up your rent. Right. So the argument would be like, you've gone off and done an art degree and you earn a little bit of money, but I keep coming to you going, can I have five grand? I wouldn't do it. When you go, well, no, if you want that,

you need to get a job that pays. Yeah, I'm not a bank. Although Anna did give my daughter 40 quid the other day. She was like, I want to get my nails done. I was like, I haven't got any money, sorry. And Anna was like, oh, I'll give you money. I'm basically financing her kids. She took it off Anna.

She came in and took it off Anna. Yeah, we were working, we were recording and she came in and I was like, I'm not giving you any money to get your nails done. You've not done anything. Yeah. You've not earned any money. Like I give my daughter

a hundred pounds a month pocket money. Right. Which I think is quite a lot. That is quite a lot I think. It's a lot. And then I was like you have to budget within that. You can't get that on the first of the month. Yeah if she's only got the hundred quid. And it's all gone by like a week later. I was like if you get to the 29th of the month and you want your nails done which are are gonna cost 40 quid, which you're gonna buy off in five seconds. I'm not paying for it. And soft touch. 40 quid is a lot

of your monthly work. That's 40% of her monthly work. Soft touch, gave her the 40 quid. What can I say? I don't know. Anna, did you, so, did you, you undercut her. You went behind her mother's back. No, she was next to me.

Her mother's poorly back. Yeah, her mother's poorly back. I was like, come on, do you know what? Honestly, she's such a sweet little girl. So was it a lend or was it a give? Well, it was a give. It was meant to be a lend. And now it's a give.

It's been a give now. I've written it off, boys. I've written it off. I'll give it back to you. It was a lend. How do you think, Anna, how do you think Louisa would do answering phones on Childline? I would imagine if Louisa was on...

I'd probably be quite good. I'm very practical. She didn't fucking stop! I don't think I... They'd be trying to get her off the phone. Exactly! Josh, I feel it's gone so quick. I feel like we need to get you back on again for a sequel.

Louisa, what do you think Lord Sugar's like as a dad? What's he like? Absent probably. How many kids have you got? Have we got two or three kids? I think actually he's been a really good dad to those kids and he's a bit like me of the school of hard graft and not dishing out to them because those kids work in the business and I know

that they do because sometimes I drive past that. How many kids has he got? I think two. Oh, I don't know, he never talks about it. Well does he talk about his kids? I think two or three he's got. But I know that. It's quite hard to talk about it on his show, isn't it?

You completely fucked up the sales pitch. You are a little disgrace. I've got two kids by the way. You are five. I'm starting to wheel them in at some point. I think it's got a daughter that's got kids and maybe she doesn't work, but I think the son works in the business definitely. Oh that must be tough being Alan Sugar's son in his own business.

Right, for the last question Josh. Should we do it about their partners Robert or about each other? I reckon about each other. Okay, okay. So what thing about each other do you as parents or as friends, however you want to put it, do you see them doing your life? That is why I fell in love with them. That is what makes them so incredible. That is on the other side.

What thing does the other one do that annoys you that you've never brought up but were they to listen to this podcast this would be your way to tell them. I mean they listen to this podcast but you probably don't need because they're sat next to you. So the first is what do we like about each other? I love that Louisa is she's very kind she's very that hasn't come across Anna. Well no but do you think that Louisa is a lot kinder and warmer than she likes the public to think? I don't want them thinking I'm nice. Yeah that's exactly it. I like that I'm unapproachable. I don't want people coming up to me. Is there a character of Louisa Zissman and a once the mics go off, she's like, no, I think I think Louisa likes who she likes and I think I know who she feels comfortable with. It's like I think, you know, I'm actually quite an awkward person. We should

always we should all be selective about who we're friends with and who we have in our lives. And, you know, I'm genuinely friends with Louisa because I love her as a human being and as a person, not just because we have a successful podcast. You know, it's, that's me and Rob. That's me and Rob. She's very kind, very big and very, very loyal. And I think that's a wonderful trait. And especially in this day and age. Um, and actually now what you know, the overarching thing actually is she's fun. She brings out the fun side in me and I can be a bit serious and a bit kind of meh. What do you mean? If they're not on your face, they're in the game. In the game!

You don't know what I'm saying. I'm a fucking hoot. I am a hoot. That's safety first fun. But she can throw caution. She is safety first. She throws caution to the wind quite a lot. And I think that's, I think everyone kind of needs to have a crazy friend and that's kind of Louisa in my life.

Oh, lovely. Oh, there we go. And I am like, I appreciate Anna so much and love Anna because she is the calm to my storm, right? So like, I feel like if I didn't have Anna and my husband in my life, I would just be like, well, don't know where I'd be. Probably be like stripper in Vegas, living my best life to be honest without all these children. Like cocktail, do you want a cocktail?

No, so I feel like Anna is my, like she grounds me, like, you know, she, she, and not in a sense of like we have all this fluff around us, but just as a,, she's very much my, like on my shoulder, but she's not sensible. She's like super fun and making me sound really boring. But she's just, she's my steady, you know? That's a lovely compliment. Like she is my steady and I know that, and we can do, I think it's really rare in your adult life and as a female, I don't know what it's like being a guy, but to try and make friends or new friends as a female in your adult life, it's actually really hard to make friends as an adult anyway, I feel and friends

that aren't like, you know, you don't want to be always friends with the moms at the school gate, just because your kids are friends, like to really find a true friend as an adult is really hard. And to find a friend that you can do everything with. We can do everything together. So we can hang out ourselves and just sit and read a book together. We could go shopping together. We can go partying together. We can go on holiday together.

We could go on holiday with our kids. Our kids can hang out. And to have a friend that's all encompassing like that And to be able to belly laugh like we do to your side to her is so, so rare to like get and to have someone that you can confide in. Yeah. One question, are you reading the same book or are you sitting silently reading separate books? No, we will sit silently together like or chat like or go on car journeys and chat forever, or not. And I think to have a friend that is like that, and it's almost like you're sort of like a non-sexual partner, I guess.

We could live together with our kids and be super happy. So that's the opposite of me and Josh, we love fucking each other, but we can't sit and chat. No. Try and read a bit together, we can't be terrible. We can fucking each other, but we can't sit and chat. No. Try and read the book together, we can't be terrible, but we can shut this clothes off. Oh yeah. But it is, it is, it is what it is. What I hate about Anna, what's irritating. Anna is the biggest hypochondriac you will ever meet.

Like bad, hypochondriac bad. And the ironic thing is, I'm always ill. She's the one all broken. And I'm like, I broke my ankle in September and didn't know for like two weeks. I was walking around on this broken ankle and eventually I thought I think I'm broken. You can't work out.

You can't get, you break every bone and you don't give a shit. I'm so broke. Like since, what? I mean, I've broken a lot actually. You've broken a lot recently. My knee, I broke my knee. Then my ankle got broken. How you doing?

Is this horse riding? Yeah, well, when you play polo, it's like a dangerous sport. There we go. Of course you play polo. Fuck you now. It's one of the most dangerous sorts. So yeah, I broke my knee.

Someone rode into me and then someone hit a ball and it broke my ankle. She's just a bionic woman now. Yeah, I got chucked off a horse and broke my back. Basically, horses are expensive and bad for you. Yeah. So I am a huge hyper-contriac, but I have no right to be a hyperchondriac. Although can I just say the best thing... She always calls 111. When did you last call 111? Probably a couple of

weeks ago. Yeah. Always. But the best thing about having Instagram and having DMs is I now have an actual list of GPs and medical professionals who if I have a problem I can just DM them. Just DM them. I can send them a rash. They can tell me what the rash is. I can tell them I've got some perimenopause. You've just got perverts pretending to be GPs.

They're not GPs Anna. I mean Dr Charlotte. I'm going to need to see a closer up picture than that please. She's going to stop charging you soon. She's IPA. So I guess what's Louise's irritating point? I mean, I'm going to need to see a closer up picture than that. Please. So I guess what's Louise's irritating habit? Go on, hit me with it.

I don't know, really. I'm so perfect. She's I mean, she's I think I think I think irritating, but I have to be careful with this one because she is currently over going through perhaps an assessment on this. So there is a little bit of retention deficit and hyperactivity around this when you may have picked up on it. I am quite sure that we are going to get a positive ADHD result when she gets a genuine assessment. Some of your fake doctors on your Instagram will be handing them out. Easy.

But to point out, because I don't want people to hate me for saying it, but that's not a criticism or irritation. It's an observation because I have to keep her on track on something. Because her brain goes in so many different directions all the time. And it is it. Why do I have to get up at 4. Oh a tree. Yes, we can be talking about something. Oh look at that is it. She's like, oh a tree. Oh, yes, we can be talking about something.

Oh, look at that over there. I need to order something on Amazon. So keeping her focused on something is quite the challenge. You've got to fill out that form for me. I did it. Did you do it? Last night, yeah. I'm getting an ADHD.

What is it I'm doing? She's going to the ADHD center to have a, this is a genuine assessment she's having, if you don't mind saying about it. No, I don't. This is breaking news She's going to the ADHD center to have a, this is a genuine assessment she's having if you don't mind saying about it. I filled out breaking news. I filled out the assessment on our podcast. She needs to have exclusive people that are close to her, fill it out for her. She can't do it for her. So it's observations of people that know her. I went through the form last night. Um, and I mean, I mean mean it's a foregone conclusion. It really is.

It really is. So I'm really looking forward to the treatment process. I wouldn't want her any differently because it's just who she is. I just know. I don't react well to meds. No you don't. She goes, she goes very down. So it's just, you know, it's just kind of, it's like keeping a, keeping a toddler in the tracks.

The reason why we started doing a podcast is because I couldn't do TV anymore because no one will have me. But I can. Because of things I say. So why are you being censored? Who's censoring you? Oh, just we can't talk about this now. We can't talk about that. Who's saying that? We get a lot of edited out now.

But you're a short podcast, you can put what you want in it. Yeah, but Global are quite thingy with us now. There's some things that we really can't say. We've cost them a lot in legal, so I do get it. There's some things we really can't let out on them. Yeah, and legally it's been quite expensive for them a few times. Thank you for having us on. Thank you for having us on, boys.

Honestly, it's so appreciated. Thank you for having us on. Thank you for having us on boys, honestly. Thank you very much. We'll take it to the lawyers and we'll see what makes the cut. Take it to the lawyers. Cheers. I hope you feel better soon with your stomach bug. Thank you. Much love. Thanks again. See you later. Bye. Luana, Anna Williamson and Louisa Zisman.

Great. It's a brilliant, it's a really funny podcast as well. Would you enjoy living in that situation? No, personally I wouldn't. I find that quite stressful. But you know, what I do like, she gets a bit of stick, Louisa, but what I like about her is she's chosen a way to live and her and her husband have been very successful in their jobs. And if they want to do that, that's what they want want to do and she's very open and honest about it and you can't you know everyone's allowed their opinion but I quite enjoy that she's open about it and no holds barred. Each to their own Rob, each to their own within the legal laws.

Just the thought of you trying to manage 15 staff in your house Josh makes me. Well the good news is Rob I don't think that'll ever be happening. See you later. Bye! I'm Natalie Cassidy and I've been wanting to do a podcast of my own for a very long time and here it is. I'm going to be talking each week to family, friends, most importantly you. I want to talk about the issues that are bothering me, things that make me smile, and how we get through that washing basket without having a nervous breakdown. This is a podcast for the general public,

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